Fantasy Football Today - 10/02: Trade Talk! Fantasy Feud! LAR-SEA and Worryometer (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 2, 2019

Starting with some Buy Low guys (1:30). Should you be targeting only studs with buy low offers? How do we feel about Josh Gordon going forward? Is Odell Beckham still a Buy Low? Then we move on to Sel...l High (8:50) with some TEs to consider trading and more ... News and notes (16:00) as we touch on the Vikings passing game, then we've got some interesting stats (20:30) on Sony Michel's inability to break tackles and Joe Flacco's early success. And we preview LAR-SEA (31:30)! Todd Gurley or Chris Carson? Can you trust Jared Goff? ... Special guest Sia Nejad who made an awesome donation to St. Jude joins the show to play Fantasy Feud against Heath and Ben (39:00). And we've got Worryometer Wednesday (49:15) and we're answering a bunch of your iTunes/email questions ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Big show today. Buy low, sell high. Heath's side. A game on Thursday night. Ben Folds 5. A special guest joining us live. One of my best intros.
Starting point is 00:01:34 What's up, Heath? Pretty good, right? Well, there's two questions you asked there. One of your best intros, absolutely. Pretty good, not really. I'm getting better. How long did it take you to write that thing? You know, not that long.
Starting point is 00:01:50 30 seconds to a minute. I'm that good. I'm picturing you spending hours writing that. No, you know what? I didn't. I did not, but thank you. But I did notice, Ben, you are very dressed up today, as am I. That must be because we have a special guest joining us in the studio.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Sia Najat is coming on. He made an amazing, generous donation to St. Jude. He won a guest spot on our podcast, and we'll talk to him in a little bit. We're going to play Fantasy Feud with him later on in the show. But because we have so many things to talk about, let's go to some buy low and sell high right out of the gate. Ben is going to give you some buy lows that I don't really agree with. Ben, you're on the clock.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yeah, no, there's this week was interesting. I mean, I've talked a lot on this show about air yards, using air yards in addition to targets to look at wide receivers. The top four guys in air yards this addition to targets to look at wide receivers, the top four guys in air yards this week, all pretty dramatically underperformed the volume they saw.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So you see guys wind up with a really low stat line and don't necessarily recognize that they had the potential for the big plays that downfield shots to that. I mentioned that I guess you must be talking about our Phillip Dorsett who had nine targets and well over 100 air yards. And Curtis Samuel, who obviously is playing with a backup quarterback at this stage, but also had plenty of air yards, got a lot of deep shots this week. Neither of them are very productive. And then for the season in air yards, DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller are
Starting point is 00:03:23 both guys that I think you can you can look at will fuller should have had a long touchdown this week uh deshaun watson overthrew him but they're ninth and twelfth in air yards for the season uh john brown was another guy who was a little bit under underproductive this week but was very is very good in air yards for the season um you know what it is top 10 in I think for me, philosophically, when I'm buying low, I look at this as an opportunity to get great players who are underperforming. So my mind, buy low. Like Hopkins, yeah, absolutely. That was one of the guys I was going to mention. It's just he's too good to be performing like this, even with the lower target share that we talked about on Sunday
Starting point is 00:04:00 night. But I don't know. I feel like with buy low, that's your opportunity to take players who were drafted in the early rounds and have the chance to be real difference makers, really great players for your team and get them for mid round or late round value, depending on the type of league you play in. So I just like I wouldn't I wouldn't buy like I wouldn't buy low on Curtis Samuel with a backup quarterback. You know, I just I guess I just wouldn't really look at these guys because they're not they're good they may be worth starting and i don't and i'm more nervous about curtis samuel i think just um because they don't really throw the ball that much with with alan and they have have a lot of mallets to feed to be honest uh but that's sort of my philosophy ben it's just i'm just kind of looking like let's get some great players like not how many
Starting point is 00:04:40 yeah how many of the top few round great players are a underperforming and be actually by lows because like juju smith schuster is another guy that i thought of but i don't know if i want to buy low on him for a similar reason because of the the backup quarterback issue and the fact that they basically went to a wildcat gimmicky jet motion offense that would not be good for him if they could continue to do that yeah deandre hopkins is a great one there's not a ton more guys and i mean a lot of the the top picks are actually performing so i know i agree with you philosophically and i also think as far as buy lows go right now it's a huge deal your record is a huge deal if you're
Starting point is 00:05:16 oh and four or one and three you need to be optimizing for the next two or three weeks you shouldn't be buying guys that you're looking uh down a little further down the line and hoping will be productive in a month. You should be selling those guys. And you should absolutely be trying to win the next two or three weeks or your season is going to be done. If you're out in front, if you're winning, if you're 4-0 or 3-1, you can be trying to grab guys that might have the potential to be more productive later in the season. Like a Curtis Samuel, I expect Cam Newton will be back at some point. The answer to buy low this week is just wide receiver because almost all of the top wide receivers have underperformed
Starting point is 00:05:51 what we expected and i expect almost all of them except for maybe juju smith schuster to be just about what we expected i did not draft any odell beckham because i didn't have him as a top five wide receiver coming into the year is like sixth or seventh for me right in the Mike Evans range I would absolutely be buying low on Odell Beckham and then they're like there are some other guys in that range of maybe not Curtis Samuel but a little bit lower Tyler Boyd I love his involvement in the passing game he's just unlucky that he hasn't scored a touchdown yet I'd absolutely try to buy low on Tyler Boyd before this matchup against Arizona. Especially with John Ross out. Now, as far as one other guy I just want to bring up is Josh Gordon. That was a guy that I'd like to maybe buy low on and get your thoughts on that. You know, look, we should, and on Philip D'Orsep, and he's actually only owned in 65% of leagues.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So, you know, I think you're making a good point. Just like it was Buffalo. It was a tough matchup and don't give up on the Patriots, guys. Like I put out a tweet about the Worryometer, which we'll also try to get to today. And somebody said Julian Edelman. And I just don't see a reason to be concerned at all about Julian Edelman. In two of three games without Antonio Brown, he had double-digit targets. One of those was in only one half. So they all had bad games against Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Look at their schedule. It's incredible. Josh Gordon, his next three opponents, ranked 31st, 29th, and 30th in fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. Washington, the Giants, and the Jets. I'm just throwing out the Buffalo game. It was one of Tom Brady's worst games as a starting quarterback. So that's someone I like. Heath, yes or no, buy low on Josh Gordon? I'm just wondering if the college football playoff system is going to penalize the Patriots for their scheduling this year because it's ridiculous, the teams that they're playing. Play a power five team, for one.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Look at their schedule, though, later in the season. That actually gets pretty tough. It does. Oh, they play a couple of conference games. Good. I think Josh Gordon is a buy low. I'm a little bit leery just about the Patriots' pass attack because we've gone through four games,
Starting point is 00:07:57 and really three of those were pretty good matchups. Yes, the next three games are pretty good matchups, but then you get to the second half of the season, and generally speaking, when the weather gets cold, the Patriots go more run heavy. And so I just worry that if we're cutting the season into four quarters, we're through the first quarter, which should have been one of their best. It was a little bit of a disappointment. The fourth quarter, we're kind of planning on being a little bit of a disappointment. Yeah, so Gordon's a really good example of a guy that if you're 0-4 or 1-3 because of the great matchups coming up, and I agree with Adam. I kind of threw out this Bills game because it was a tough matchup.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Brady typically struggles there, and he had his worst yards per attempt in a game since 2009. So that's not what we're expecting from Brady going forward. Gordon's a guy who if you need to win in the next couple of weeks and you're trying to optimize for the next couple of weeks, he has great matchups for the next couple of weeks. Yep. And you know what, Ben?
Starting point is 00:08:51 You know how I knew that Brady had one of his worst games ever? From stealing signals. Ben's a wicked column. It's awesome. All right. Let's do some sell high here. HQ, though. You got to be watching HQ.
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Starting point is 00:09:32 a player who's already been picked. Yeah, that's annoying. When someone shows up without a cheat sheet, ask to use yours. When the host forgets to order the pizza, that would be something that I would do. Tell us your biggest pet peeve on draft day. And like I mentioned, Sia Najad is joining us today he donated to saint jude we thank him so much for that and we'll hear from him in a bit sell high candidates heath you can start with this
Starting point is 00:09:55 we'll start with wayne gallman it was a fantastic performance but my biggest concern for gallman is that the next two weeks are could be absolutely absolutely terrible against the Vikings and the Patriots. And then we're looking at a max of four more weeks of Wayne Gallman as a starting running back, possibly less than that. The way Saquon Barkley has been talking, I would trade Wayne Gallman for just about any starting player at just about any starting position.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You know, Ben was talking about if you're four and Oh three and one, then you're looking towards the end of the season. If you're Oh one, three, one and three Oh and four, you're looking towards the next couple of weeks. I'm not sure that Wayne Goldman is great for either.
Starting point is 00:10:36 He'll be good for week seven. Um, he, he's a low end starter for the next two weeks, but not somebody I'm excited about. Yeah. I'm a little bad that you have Gallman ahead of Gurley in PPR. I don't think you're the only one, by the way. I think Dave also does.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Jamie has the back-to-back. A little mad about that. We'll preview that game later, Heath. But I don't think you should have Gallman ahead of Gurley. What do you think about that? Well, it sounds ridiculous when you say it. We're still at the point in the week where it's all what the spreadsheet spit out, and I haven't looked into it too much.
Starting point is 00:11:11 But Todd Gurley hasn't had a game like Wayne Goldman had last week yet. He had a pretty good game last week. Yeah, you've got to be pretty optimistic about the targets. Obviously, they threw 68 times for Gurley. But the other big thing that's pretty wild they had a really up-tempo game and his snapshot didn't really come down so he ended up playing i believe it was 74 raw snaps which is like one or two off the the nfl season high for a running back which is christian mccaffrey game he had a couple more than that because he plays like 100 of the
Starting point is 00:11:41 snaps but a ton of raw snaps when you think about an up-tempo game, they didn't actually sub Gurley out a lot. Probably a pretty good sign. All right, that's interesting. We'll see how he responds on a short week. That's kind of good to know. So Wayne Gallman's a sell high. Ben, who else? Yeah, I mean, again,
Starting point is 00:12:00 buy low, sell highs are always going to be price dependent, right? But Chris Godwin is a guy that if I could get really top-end value out of, I wouldn't mind selling right now. Mike Evans was pretty sick to start the season in week one, didn't play a full snap share, came back on a short week on Thursday night in week two. And both of those games weren't great for him. They were very good for Godwin. And now week three, we saw a lot more Evans. Now in week four, we saw a game that was really up-tempo. I just mentioned it on the Rams side,
Starting point is 00:12:30 but on the Bucs side as well. Tons of passing, tons of volume overall on both sides. The type of game that is great for everyone's fantasy ceiling. And Godwin really thrived in that game. 14 targets, two touchdowns. His air yards were almost identical to Evans, even though Evans had half as many targets.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Evans is the downfield guy that that has more boom potential obviously godwin just had a huge boom game but godwin's more of a compiler in that uh larry fitzgerald role in the in the bruce arian's offense he's been great so far but definitely i think over performing a little bit rest of season expectations and coming off a game situation that was really great for just compiling stats if you can get he's top five in all formats right now if you can get top five value for him i would i'd be fine selling it okay would you sell him for tyreek hill i think so yeah i mean hill is hill's gonna be back pretty quick and and i expect he'll be a lot better the rest of the way i have tried two different leagues to trade him for Tyreek Hill, and I can't.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Interesting. Any other sell-highs? Guys, I would just say if you own two tight ends, it's really not a, in my opinion, not a great use of a roster spot. I would try to sell one of your tight ends. Anything? Austin Hooper. Austin Hooper's a tight end that I notice as well. I mean, a couple touchdowns last week, been very involved. I don't expect Calvin Ridley to be uninvolved the rest of the way. If you go back and look at Austin Hooper's game log last year, I think I talked about this last week, and even Devontae Freeman out of the backfield.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And the targets just kind of go where the matchup goes. Last week, they couldn't get the ball down the field while they were chasing points. And Jones and Ridley didn't see his main targets at higher average depth of targets. And then we saw Sanu, Hooper, and Devontae Freeman all see a bunch of dump offs underneath based on what the defense was giving them. Hooper is not an elite tight end. He's a good tight end. He's going to have more boom weeks. But if you can get really good value for him and then go pick up somebody like a Chris Herndon,
Starting point is 00:14:30 who I think is somebody you should be looking at for when he returns, that's a trade-off I would take. I would take Herndon over Hooper probably the rest of the way because I think Herndon has more upside. So far, the Falcons' targets look like this. Julio Jones has 37. Austin Hooper has 33. Muhammad Sanu
Starting point is 00:14:45 31. Calvin Ridley 23 and Devante Freeman 21. So pretty spread out but Ridley trailing Hooper and Sanu by 10 and 8 targets respectively but you know next week next we talk next week it could be completely different you know.
Starting point is 00:15:02 All right cool. Chris Godwin Wayne Gallman Austin Austin Hooper. Heath, any more names or are we good? I think we're good. All right. All right, we'll come across more. I missed a buy low that I want to throw in that's a really quick one. But Damian Williams, I think can – it depends on how much you've got to pay for him.
Starting point is 00:15:21 But I think he could take over the Darryl Williams role. I mean, I don't really have to explain that the Kansas City running back role is awesome. Both LeSean McCoy and Darrell Williams scored touchdowns last week. Williams scored twice. But the way that they're using Williams and they're using him more in the past game, they seem to be, he basically just took over Damian Williams' role. And I still expect when Williams comes back that he's going to be involved and potentially will just take that role right back.
Starting point is 00:15:42 So if you can get him cheap, he's somebody I'd look at buying as well. So at this point, is LeSean McCoy the best Chiefs running back rest of season? Yes. then potentially we'll just take that role right back. So if you can get him cheap, he's somebody I'd look at buying as well. So at this point, is LaShawn McCoy the best Chiefs running back rest of season? Yes. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. What a world we live in. Well, you can go back to LaShawn McCoy on FanDuel.
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Starting point is 00:17:03 FanDuel.com slash FFT. to fanduel.com slash FFT, fanduel.com slash FFT, or download the FanDuel app. Not a lot of news and notes today. Kwon Short, Carolina's defensive tackle, he's out for the season, and that is a big loss for them as they get ready for Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Did forget to look this up. I will do it right now, unless you know off the top of your head. He missed the last two games. Is that right? Yes. He missed the last two games, and they faced Arizona and Houston. I think they still did okay against the run.
Starting point is 00:17:36 We'll look into that when we preview the game tomorrow. John Ross, though, he could miss a few weeks with a shoulder injury. Heath, where are you ranking Aud and Tate, who is 9% owned? Last two games, four catches for 50 yards, six catches for 88 yards, and he will be at Arizona. Top 24 wide receiver in both formats. Add him and start him. He has 16 targets over the last two weeks with John Ross on the team.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Great matchup against Arizona. I'm starting Andy Dalton. I'm starting Aud and Tate. I'm starting Andy Dalton. I'm starting Auden Tate. I'm starting the Bengals. I got to say, I'm a little, I'm nervous about Dalton now without John Ross. Like he just doesn't have any playmakers. John Ross catches like one out of every six balls thrown to him.
Starting point is 00:18:16 But he could take it to the house. But he's a great, and also his speed is very important to the scheme. We've talked about how they run a heavy 11 personnel scheme that he took from Sean McVay. And Ross is basically playing that Brandon Cook's role. It's really important to creating the opportunities for other receivers in the offense. I think him being out of the lineup is a pretty significant downgrade for the offense as a whole. Whoever is going to play in that third wide receiver spot. Autumn Tate has actually played
Starting point is 00:18:42 a full snapshot the last two weeks in the role that Damian Willis started in, but eventually will be AJ Green's role in this three wide receiver offense. He's not like getting a bump in opportunity or a bump in snapshot. He's been playing tons of snaps, but he's going to take Ross's role. Yeah. Ross, Ross was getting a 25% target share.
Starting point is 00:19:02 He's whoever's taking Ross's role is not going to get 25% of the targets this week. I'm not, but I do think Ross's speed out of the offense is, is, is a downgrade for the offense overall. Gosh, man,
Starting point is 00:19:13 they were so bad. They were so bad on Monday night. And then it's not like nothing, but this is, this, this is nothing new for the Bengals or for Andy Dalton. They're up and they're down and they're up and they're like, this is what it's been in the entirety of his career.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And what if Tyler Eifert just catches that touchdown pass that hit him in both hands in the end zone? It's still a terrible game. Well, we don't even know how the game goes after that. It probably changes the whole flow of the game. Oh, yeah, right. Hey, Brian, those are 300 yards and three touchdowns. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You know what? Tyler Eifert would have thrown for 250 and two. No, he would have not. Okay, let's move on. Roquan Smith is out indefinitely. He's dealing with a personal injury, a personal issue. That's Chicago's linebacker. They're in London to face Oakland this week.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Kirk Cousins apologized to Adam Thielen for missing him. What? What? Adam Thielen is supposed to be apologizing to Kirk. Kirk Cousins didn't call Adam Thielen out on national. I don't understand. This is how bad it's gotten with the Vikings passing game. We have wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:20:11 complete mutiny, just go into the media, and then we have the quarterbacks apologizing to the wide receivers. It's awful. Well, I think he's going to have a big game, Thielen. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I hope for Cousins, but they're at the Giants this week, so plenty of opportunity. It seems that Marlon Humphrey may not have choked Odell Beckham. If you go to the Baltimore Ravens website, they have a pretty good camera angle showing that it didn't look like he was choking him. They also have the most biased article ever written, ever, completely defending Marlon Humphrey, who was just doing what he was taught to do or something like that. It's pretty hilarious to read, but it actually does have good video there, so you can check that out.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And a beer vendor got arrested for charging $724 for two beers at Hard Rock Stadium, home of the Dreadful Dolphins and Horrible Hurricanes. $724 for two beers, Heath. Out of your price range? Out of my price range, yes. Yeah, all right. I thought so. That's a lot of bad stuff going out at dolphins at the hard rock stadium do we have any any injury updates by the way a damian
Starting point is 00:21:11 williams marlin mac all the guys that we were i saw a note that tyro williams is is banged up oh yeah he's he's had a hip thing for a couple of weeks is this a new one or is it still the hip thing i just saw that he was questionable so maybe it's still the same thing. I just saw that this morning. I didn't see a lot of information about it, but I thought it was worth noting. Guys, I'm going to let you script the show.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Well, actually, did you come prepared with an interesting stat? No, not specifically. Okay, well, I did. I have an interesting stat stat but you stole it and put it in the notes i put it in there for you heath okay go ahead what's your okay yeah per sports info solutions sony michelle has a zero percent broken tackle rate um every tackle attempt
Starting point is 00:21:58 against him has been successful now immediately of course patriots fans responded to me on Twitter with videos of possibly a Sonny Michelle broken tackle maybe he has a 1.5% broken tackle rate I'm not sure I have not verified the video but that's amazing you got Patriots fans Zap Reuter filming you
Starting point is 00:22:19 and it's not even my number I cited sports info solutions they charted the game not me regardless And it's not even my number. Doubt it to the left. He breaks the tackle. I cited Sports Info Solutions. They charted the game, not me. Regardless of whether it's 0-1 or even 2 broken tackles, Chris Carson had like 25 in his most recent game, 21. I'm exaggerating. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He's been really bad. He has been. So what should we do? Because I said yesterday on the Waiver Wire show that you should still consider picking up Rex Burkhead, who yesterday was like 64% owned. People were asking about Damian Harris. Michelle is averaging like 2.3 yards per carry, something horrible.
Starting point is 00:22:52 What should we do, Heath? I don't – like I'll start James White in PPR this week. I'm not starting any Patriots running back in non-PPR. Let's talk long-term, though. Let's guess long-term, though. Let's guess long-term. I don't, like, I have been telling you for, and you argue against me sometimes, this is the Patriots running back situation.
Starting point is 00:23:12 No, it isn't. Yes, it is. Okay. Like, I know sorry Michelle had a good eight-game stretch last year. But he's been horrible. He's been horrible. He had the opportunity to win this job, and he's blowing it. But they've shown.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Rex Burkhead. Rex Burkhead was the most valuable Patriots running back until last week, and and he's blowing it. Rex Burkhead was the most valuable Patriots running back until last week and then he gets one touch. Okay. I think that was an injury situation. He will give up on Sonny Michel and then he's going to rush for 115 yards
Starting point is 00:23:37 and three touchdowns in a game. Well, he could do it three weeks in a row. I agree with Heath completely that they will go with who's available, who's healthy, what the scheme dictates, all of that stuff. It's a really hard thing to project because, again, look, Rex Burkhead gets a little bit banged up, still plays. I think in another offense probably could have played a lot more than he did.
Starting point is 00:23:59 But for the Patriots, it's like, okay, this game doesn't matter as much as our whole season matters. We're just going to go. And we have like 900 running backs. So we're gonna go more towards james white this week in the passing game in the in the role that burkhead is kind of sharing as the passing down back and then obviously still use michelle heavily but yeah down the down the road it could be damian harris it could be anything i mean i in uh the scott fishbowl really deeply i just picked up damian harris because he got cut not because I think he's worth necessarily owning right now, but I do think five weeks from now he could be. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Well, look, what I gave you, what I said in the preseason, what I've said is actual evidence, actual data that the Patriots used Steven Ridley, LeGarrette Blount, and I'm pretty sure Sonny Michel last year at about 16 carries per game now you know michelle is not going to get passing downs work which is always a knock but if you get 16 carries a game from michelle you're going to have a productive running back who's going to score touchdowns uh he's just blowing the opportunity so i do think maybe it's more complicated now because they don't want to get completely away from michelle but if there's going to be a lead running back who's getting 16 carries per game for the Patriots, I want that guy.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And maybe it's too complicated this year. But I think going into the year. And that's also like three seasons. Like Stephen Ridley, you're going back to 2012. Okay, but LeGarrette Blount was recent and Sonny Michelle was last year. Sure. So LeGarrette Blount had the 18 touchdown season, rushing touchdown season. He's the only guy in the last, I think it's like five or six years,
Starting point is 00:25:30 to have more than six rushing touchdowns in this offense. So that's another issue. I would say on Michel, you're saying you want a guy who rushes 16 times in this offense. Well, he doesn't catch passes. He's very much that trap back that we've talked about. And he's not getting as much goal line work as we'd expect. This week it was Brandon Bolden who gets the touchdown because they don't mind james devlin had four rushing touchdowns last year he's obviously out this year but they will do all
Starting point is 00:25:52 sorts of stuff in the green zone in the in the close inside the 10 inside the five range it's hard for like for guys to have double digit rushing touchdowns in this offense blunt had that one season but it doesn't happen every year like we might expect would you rather have sony michelle or ronald jones ronald jones obviously uh yeah i think i'd rather have ronald jones oh man okay would you rather have sony michelle or miles sanders i'd take sanders too i think there's more upside. I'd probably take, I'm really concerned about miles Sanders, just the trend in terms of the snaps for Jordan Howard and the actual performance for miles Sanders, other than a couple of long catches.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I'd probably take Michelle. All right. Here's my interesting stat for this week. Joe Flacco. He is, he's having his basically his best season. He's got a career high completion percentage. He's his interesting stat for this week. Joe Flacco, he's having basically his best season. He's got a career-high completion percentage. He's his second-highest yards per attempt, second-highest yards per game.
Starting point is 00:26:51 He's on pace for 4,304 yards. His career high is 4,317 yards, so almost identical to what he's on pace for this year. That 4,317 yards in 2016, that's Flacco's only season with 4,000 passing yards. So it's a complete outlier. So far, so good. I bring it up because so far,
Starting point is 00:27:11 the Broncos have two top 16 wide receivers. Sutton and Sanders. Their stats are nearly identical. They have something like 22 catches, 300 yards and two touchdowns, something like that, both of them. They're both top 16 guys. I'm very impressed.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I want to check Sutton's ownership percentage and see how much it rose because he was 70% yesterday. I'll get back to that in a second. He should be owned in all leagues. Yeah, I mean, that's what I think too. But the thing is, like, I'm thinking to myself, Joe Flacco cannot be this good. So what's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:27:42 I saw that stat in the notes, and the first thing I thought is, is like the weather's great right now. Right. And you mentioned before that as we get later into the year, it's going to be more difficult. I did. I checked his splits over the first four weeks and the rest of the season for his entire career. He's actually been about one point three points per game in fantasy better in the first four
Starting point is 00:28:01 weeks of the season throughout his career. So that's one thing with Flacco, where if he's having a career year through the first four games, we would expect him to not be throwing for as many yards when it starts snowing in Denver, especially. But I do agree with you. I think he's a pretty decent fit for this offense. Things have looked pretty good there. Emmanuel Sanders obviously looks very spry, but the story that is Emmanuel Sanders and
Starting point is 00:28:22 how quickly he came back from his injury has completely overshadowed Portland Sutton, who was a breakout candidate already as a second-year guy, very good profile, was a little bit underrated last year even because he had an extremely high uncatchable target rate. But he still had over eight yards per target, even though he only had a 50% catch rate. And so many of his deep throws were uncatchable from Case Keenum. But I talked about him a lot this offseason as a guy who has that downfield role, is going to get the air yards. And he's continued to show it this year, although last week it was Sanders who got more downfield shots. But Sutton's going to have the downfield role, and he's been a lot more efficient this year.
Starting point is 00:28:59 And he seems to be meshing with Joe Flacco a lot better than he did with Case Keenum last year. Really like him the rest of the season. Last year, through the first four games of the season, Joe Flacco had thrown for 1,252 yards, eight touchdowns, and only two interceptions. He was much better last year through the first four games than he has been so far this year.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That's good to know. Glad I brought this up. But then, so what does that mean for you, that you'd be trying to sell Sanders? It's hard to sell a guy who's 79% owned. That means not everybody's buying in. I don't think you can. Yeah. But Sanders.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I'm fine. They're number three receivers that you can start. They don't have... You should have sold Sanders after the first two weeks when he was the number five wide receiver in fantasy. Yeah, but he's coming off a good game. Yeah, I'm selling Sanders. A couple yards.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. You're selling Sanders before Sutton. Right. Because you can get more. I think Sutton has the potential to be like a superstar eventually, and I'm just not a guy I'd want to sell where he's not even owned in every league. His value's not high enough right now, but Sanders is a guy I think you
Starting point is 00:29:57 could sell. He's been very good. All right, we got the Worry-O-Meter. We've got Thursday Night Football. I got a good stat for you i i pulled one up from stealing signals this is a really interesting one kyler murray in week one had one of the all-time highest air yards games that the game went to to overtime but his average depth of target was 10.8 on his passes or 10.6 very downfield and then in week two it was 8.2 again very downfield that's a in week two, it was 8.2, again, very downfield.
Starting point is 00:30:25 That's a high number for a quarterback. Last two weeks, it's been 5.9, and now this week, it was 5.3. So all of a sudden, Kyler Murray and this Cliff Kingsbury offense, which was this air-ray, downfield, heavy air yards offense that I was very excited for after week one and week two, they're just checking everything down underneath. We've seen that impact Larry Fitzgerald's stats and Christian Kirk's stats, that I was very excited for after week one and week two. They're just checking everything down underneath. We've seen that impact Larry Fitzgerald's stats and Christian Kirk's stats,
Starting point is 00:30:49 who's now a little bit banged up over the last two weeks compared to their first two games. When you're not, I mean, it's a great test case for air yards in general. Go look at Larry Fitzgerald's stats. His yards per reception are way down because he's only seeing shorter targets now. It's been great for David Johnson, though.
Starting point is 00:31:03 His targets have really spiked the last two weeks. All right. I do have to cut you off. That's interesting stuff. I also saw that Rich Reber at Lord Reeves tweeted that yesterday, something about his area. That's just me, Pocket Aces, finding cool stuff on Twitter with my new best friend.
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Starting point is 00:32:45 Wilson by a pretty fair margin. The thing is, the only way that I can see Russell Wilson being bad in this game is if Jared Goff is terrible in this game. Russell Wilson's a lot better quarterback than Jared Goff. It just comes down to whether or not he has to throw. If the Rams don't score, he won't throw, and I'll be too high on him as my number five quarterback. But I'm far less certain about Goff.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So what do we make of the fact that the Rams were this impenetrable force defensively? You know, quarterbacks were so bad against the Rams for like eight out of ten weeks, and then Winston goes in and just lights them up. Do you have, I'll go to you Ben do you have faith in Russell Wilson this week I mean I think Wilson can beat any defense really and I agree with Heath it comes down to whether or not they let him throw the ball uh regarding Winston some of that was just uh got like especially early in the second quarter got through two interceptions in a row that gave them really short fields.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Both of Winston's touchdowns to Chris Godwin came on two consecutive drives there. I mean, some of it was just. Field position and then, yeah, like Ross, that's the the Bucs put up a lot of yards and a lot of a lot of production, but also in a really high volume game. And then the Bucs also, I believe, got a return touchdown in that game. So some of that wasn't necessarily the defense doing as bad. It was Goff setting up the defense in situations where they had a hard time being successful. All right. Well, anyway, Russell Wilson is sixth for Jamie, fourth for Heath, fourth for Dave,
Starting point is 00:34:23 and fifth for Heath. Goff, meanwhile, are there waiver-wire guys that you would start over Jared Goff, Heath? Yes. Andy Dalton, for sure. My goodness. Really? Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You're just really going back to the well with Andy Dalton. I just do not care at all that last week was a really bad game on primetime. We overreact to primetime games. I don't care about the primetime thing. If he had hypothetically thrown two touchdown passes in this one game. Who is he throwing to? He would be a top 10 quarterback in everyone's ranking.
Starting point is 00:34:56 No, he wouldn't. Who is he throwing to? Yes, he would. 100%. Because it's the Arizona Cardinals. Three out of four quarterbacks against them has scored at least 32 fantasy points. But on national TV, he embarrassed himself. got pantsed by the Steelers, actually his offensive line.
Starting point is 00:35:08 His offensive line, yes. And so everybody is like, oh, he sucks now. We figured out Andy Dalton. John Ross is a big deal for me. He's done this for six years. It's up and it's down. It's up and it's down. It's an NFC opponent.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It's a terrible defense. You also have Gardner Minshew ahead of Jared Goff. Yes, Gardner Minshew has been a better quarterback than Jared Goff this year. He has a brutal matchup. Goff is throwing a ton of passes, 38 or more passes in three or four games. But he's on the road. We know he doesn't do very well on the road.
Starting point is 00:35:34 So Goff is 16th for Jamie, 13th for Dave, and all the way down to 20th for Heath. Okay, so Jacoby Brississett you'd start over him yeah okay dalton we know garderman should we know uh and then girly is like a number two running back is chris carson a must start with rashad penny returning and you know i'm sorry ben uh because we have our guests coming on ben let me just get to Heath's rankings. We'll just knock this game out. Sure, go for it. Chris Carson, must start? He is a start at running back.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I'm not quite as high on him as the consensus, and I've got him basically just ahead of Todd Gurley in both formats. I still, he has a bunch of upside. The Rams don't really mind if you run against them. They'd much rather Chris Carson run the ball than Russell Wilson run the ball. But you've got that little bit of risk of Penny coming back.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I do see you have Austin Eckler ahead of Carson. That's surprising. I've got Eckler and Gordon projected for a 50-50 touch split this week. I think most the difference, I think we all have Eckler in a similar spot a 50-50 touch split this week. I think most...
Starting point is 00:36:45 The difference... I think we all have Eckler in a similar spot in non-PPR. I've got him basically right around 12 in both formats, but yeah, I think he's going to be very good again. All right. Boy. Ben, Carson or Eckler? Because that shocks me.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I'd probably lean Carson just because of how much work they went back and gave him in week four. I mean, his snapshot jumped way back up. It had dropped both in week two and week three by double-digit percentage rates, and then it jumped all the way back up to his week one rate. Are you worried about Rashad Pennyheath?
Starting point is 00:37:20 Is that it? No. I just have Carson at a pretty normal... He's a high-end number two running back. Okay. Tyler Lockett, start, sit. Start. When Russell Wilson has thrown less than 30 passes, Tyler Lockett has two and four targets. Now, when these two teams played last year, they were high-scoring, good, good fantasy games.
Starting point is 00:37:42 So let's hope for the same. I think we're expecting a lot of throwing from Wilson, at least relative to what he usually gives us. But what about DK Metcalf? I can't trust him. How about the three Rams wide receivers? Start them. You sure?
Starting point is 00:38:00 What do you mean? I don't know. You're down on golf. I am sure one of the three wide receivers is going to be bad this week and not worthy of a start. You've got 20th, so I was just curious. No one has any idea which of these three wide receivers is going to be bad. That's true.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It's true. Home road splits. Woods last year was basically the same. Cooks and Kup were much better at home as is Goff. But I don't know how much you're going to make of that. Any interest in the Rams' tight ends? No. No.
Starting point is 00:38:34 How good is Will Disley this week? A fine low-end starter. O.J. Howard or Will Disley? Disley easily. I said he's a starter. Colts tight end or Will Disley? Disley easily. I said he's a starter. Colts tight end or Will Disley? That hurt me. That hurt me.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I will take Jack Doyle over Disley in PPR if T.Y. Hilton is out. We're not going to know that on Thursday most likely, so I'd probably start Disley. And finally, are you starting either of the DSTs? I don't really want to, no. I dropped the Seahawks in a couple of different leagues, just checking my rankings to make sure I don't have them ranked as starters. And no, good, I don't.
Starting point is 00:39:16 So no. Let's take a quick break here on Fantasy Football today. We got a lot left. We got Fantasy Feud coming up. We will either do the Worryometer today or tomorrow, but it's going to happen. You all responded on Twitter. I will either do the Worryometer today or tomorrow, but it's going to happen. You all responded on Twitter. I will get to the Worryometer either today or tomorrow. We have
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Starting point is 00:39:51 Be careful along our tracks and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. Welcome back to Fantasy Football today. Heath's here. Heath's here. Ben's here. I forgot to pull up Ben's music. Sorry. But Sia Najat is here.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Sia, what's going on? Thank you so much for your generous donation to St. Jude, and welcome to Fantasy Football Today. Thank you, Adam. It was a pleasure. I'm so happy that I was able to contribute to such a great cause. And I want to just say to the Fantasy Football team, thank you for using your platforms for such a charitable endeavors.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And I think, I think it's really great that you guys go beyond fantasy football for things like this. That was way too nice. That was way too nice. Thank you though. We appreciate it. Tell Adam he's a jerk.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah, come on. You're sitting next to Heath. Like, you know, get those. He didn't really do anything. He just,
Starting point is 00:40:43 I just like last year at Buffalo Wild Wings. All right, so we're going to play the feud here. And the way it works is I'll give you a category. You got to give me the top five or six answers. And we're going to go round robin, one-on-one. Sia, would you like to be in the first contest or would you like to sit one out and see it just, see it bed and eat? I'll go ahead and let's get in the first contest. All right, to sit one out and see it just see um i'll go ahead and
Starting point is 00:41:05 let's get in the first contest all right let's do it here we go let's play the feud everybody the top five answers are on the board it's going to be sia versus he one other thing during this first thing you have to say your name as the buzzer if you want to get in and try to give the answer gotcha yeah okay right uh top five answers are on the board. Give me the best quarterback so far in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. Heath. Ben. No, Ben, you're out. You're not in this, Ben.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Ben, you're not playing. You're the next round. Oh, I'm not. I got it. Yes, you're the next round. I am going to say, who is Lamar Jackson? This is not Jeopardy. Who is?
Starting point is 00:41:40 But Lamar Jackson is still the right answer. He is the number one answer. Would you like to pass or play? I'll play. All right. Lamar Jackson is still the right answer. He's the number one answer. Would you like to pass or play? I'll play. All right. Lamar Jackson off the board. How many answers are on the board? Top five answers.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Quarterbacks and six points for passing touchdown leagues. Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is the number two answer. Good job. Good start. Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is number four. Good start. Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is number four. Good job.
Starting point is 00:42:13 We're very proud of you. It gets more difficult after those three. It does. You have five seconds. For me, at least. Yeah, that's all I had on top of my head. Hey, Ben, get out of here. Five, four.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I can't heckle? Deshaun Watson. You can heck't heckle? Deshaun Watson. You can heckle. Oh, Deshaun Watson. That's one strike. The Najad family is thinking it over. They might have a chance to steal. We've got Jackson, Mahomes, and Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Russell Wilson? Russell Wilson is correct. He is number three. Dak was number four, by the way. And you've got to give me a second because I wrote Dak Prescott's name twice, and I don't have the number five quarterback. All right. I am ready now.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I have the number five quarterback. Thankfully, it's not Deshaun Watson. Okay. Go ahead, Heath. That would have been something if it was Deshaun Watson. Ben threw me off. Wow. Wow. Four, three, two.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Tom Brady? No, he's like number 12. We are looking for the number five quarterback in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. It's not Lamar Jackson or Mahomes or wilson or prescott it is heath three two one matthew stafford he's number six so close good guess all right see are we using decimal scoring no wait yeah it doesn't matter it doesn't matter i promise see uh uh you've had some time to think it over. Do you have the answer?
Starting point is 00:43:47 I have. The number five quarterback and six point per pass to touch that league for the win. I'm going to go with Jameis Winston. You are incorrect. It is Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz. And Heath wins the round.
Starting point is 00:44:02 See, a good guess. Good guess. Yeah, good guess. That's who I would have guessed. Because Winston is number eight. So that was not bad at all. Alright, next category. Heath wanted Winner to stay.
Starting point is 00:44:14 But I don't. I think Winner should stay. Alright, fine. Winner stays. See who will get the last round, regardless if it's Ben or Heath. Winner stays. Alright, here we go. In our next category, the top six answers are on the board.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I'm looking for the NFL leaders among running backs in rushing touchdowns. Heath. Ben. Heath. Wait, what? You heard Heath before me? Of course. Didn't everybody?
Starting point is 00:44:45 I don't know. I heard myself before Heath before me? Of course. Didn't everybody? I don't know. I heard myself before Heath. I must be honest. You're wrong. Heath, I need an answer here. Christian McCaffrey. He is fourth. That means Ben has a chance to get the number one answer.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Mark Ingram. He's second. All right. You get to pass or play. Me, right? Yeah, you, Ben. Top six in rushing touchdowns. I'll play.
Starting point is 00:45:12 All right, we got Ingram and McCaffrey off the board. We need four more. Jordan Howard. Jordan Howard is incorrect. Wrong. Well, I got to name some good running backs. Alvin Kamara. Oh, good one.
Starting point is 00:45:31 But not true. Not correct. You're wrong. That's two. That's a rough start. Heath has a chance to steal almost. There are four answers on the board. Rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Derrick Henry. Oh, there you go. No, you you're wrong sorry he's just missed the cut there are still four running backs on the board your chance to steal and essentially win the fantasy feud i feel like this is going to be wrong but i'm going to guess it anyway austin eckler austin eckler is What the hell is the matter with you guys? Have you heard of Dalvin Cook? Oh, Dalvin Cook. So that means Ben Gretch won.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And here are the answers. Dalvin Cook leads all running backs with five rushing touchdowns. He is tied with Mark Ingram. So actually you did get the number one answer. I'm sorry. Aaron Jones has four. Christian McCaff sorry um aaron jones has four christian mccaffrey has four jeff wilson has four and nick chubb has four rushing touchdowns and chubb and cook are two that we definitely should have gotten yeah yeah i would say so jeff wilson is a was a sticky one
Starting point is 00:46:40 then all right so so ben you've got a chance to win. Sia, you have a chance to tie. It's our final round of the Fantasy Feud. We know how it works. Say your name to buzz in. I am looking for tight ends now. Top five tight ends in receiving yards. Top five tight ends in receiving yards. Ben.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Ben. Mark Andrews is not a good guess. He's fifth. He's fifth. He's fifth. That's cool. All right. Sia, you got a chance to not a good guess. He's fifth. He's fifth. He's fifth. That's cool. Who's not top? Sia, you got a chance to get a higher answer and control the board.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I'll go with Darren Waller. Nice. He's third. He is third. All right. Pass or play? I am going to pass. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:47:22 All right. Ooh. Wow. Most people on this show play. I like it. All right, Ben people on this show play. I like it. All right, Ben. Top five tight ends in the seating yard. You know what? I have faith that you're going to get these. I think Cia just made a huge mistake.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Travis Kelsey. I think there's only three obvious answers. Number one. Cia, boy, did you screw that up. Number one is Travis Kelsey. Two more. Yeah, I mean, did you screw that up. Number one is Travis Kelsey. Two more. Yeah, I mean, we got Waller and Andrew. I'm going to say George Kittle still.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Oh, yeah, absolutely. No, you're wrong. That's one strike. All right. Well, I'm going to say Zach Ertz, too. Oh, Zach Ertz. That's interesting. It's a shame that I don't have my buzzer up.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I try to get the music. All right, that's wrong. Two wrong ones. These answers are very obvious. You're doing horribly. I know. It's just going swimmingly right now. Kelsey, Waller, Andrews, off the board.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Top five tight ends in the seeding. I got to guess. I'm just trying to make sure before I throw it out there. Five, four, three. Greg Olson. Hey! Boy, you're bad. All right, Sia.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Wow! You get a chance to steal. Wow, I'm awful! It's not Kelsey. It's not Waller. It's not Andrews. Who else? I am honestly blanking
Starting point is 00:48:45 on this one. I'm trying to figure it out. I know it's not O.J. Howard or Chris Herndon. True. You win. Would you like a list of teams? Yes. There you go. Give them a couple seconds. Do I get to try to steal for the win over everyone?
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yes. If Sia doesn't get it in 10 seconds, Heath gets a chance. I will go with 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Wow. I'll go with Delaney Walker. Hey! You're wrong. Heath? I'm going to guess maybe it's Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram. Yes, perfect. Evan Ingram is the winner. Alright, so technically Ben won. I'm suggesting Heath was not
Starting point is 00:49:34 in that. I won both by virtue of my opponent not being able to steal. Anything we could do to make sure Heath does not win. Ben actually did win the fantasy feud. The other guy, fourth in receiving yards, would be... Let's get the drop here. Harry Hooper.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Austin Hooper. There you go. So it's Kelsey, Ingram, Waller, Hooper, and Mark Andrews so far with Earth six and Greg Olson seven. So they weren't the worst guesses. Good job. Hey, Ben, congratulations. Big win.
Starting point is 00:50:04 But missing Ingram is, again, really bad. It's pretty bad. All right, Sia, would you like to do the Worry-O-Meter? Let's do it. Or would you like to do the Most Traded list? Let's do the Worry-O-Meter. Let's do the Worry-O-Meter. All right, fellas. So I asked on Twitter. I got like 130 responses, and all of them are in here. No, 10 of them are in here, something like that. John on a Worryometer. So here's how it works.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Zero to 10. Zero, not worried at all. 10, extremely worried. See, I will actually give you the first crack at each of these. John wants to know about DJ Moore on the Worryometer. Zero to 10. I'm going to give it a five. I actually like Kyle Allen more than I liked an injured Cam Newton.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I'm fine with him and Curtis Samuel. Five. I'm going to go with a six. Point five. I don't like what's happened to his target share since Kyle Allen's taken over. He's not throwing DJ Moore's way as much. Now maybe all
Starting point is 00:50:59 these incompletions to Curtis Samuel will lead to a change in that, but six and a half. Ben? One, because DJ Moore's the goat. No, that's absolutely ridiculous. They just have too many... They actually have four good
Starting point is 00:51:15 options, and yeah, we see the targets the last two weeks are terrible. Yeah, I mean... I'm legitimately not worried about it, though. I have them in pretty much every league. Heath will remember every mock draft we did all summer I drafted DJ Moore every single one he's going to be a star
Starting point is 00:51:30 the QB situation is concerning but I'm not freaking out over a small sample alright this next one comes from everyone Juju Smith-Schuster 0-10 on the Worryometer see ya 9 bad Rudolph is just passing it 2 yards down the field no kidding 10 on the Worryometer. See ya. Nine. Bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Rudolph is just passing it two yards down the field. No kidding. Heath? It's always relative to where you drafted these guys. And yeah. 10. Ben? Yeah, I like Juju as a player,
Starting point is 00:52:03 like more than consensus, similar to DJ Moore. And even I got to say, this is at least a 6 or a 7. I mean, it's not great. Who would you rather have rest of the season, DJ Moore or Juju Smith-Schuster? Juju. Yeah. Who would you guys rather have rest of the season? Like Keith said, it's relative to where you drafted him.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Understood. Juju's a... Yeah. Josh Gordon or Juju Smith-Schuster? Juju. See ya? Juju? I'll actually go Josh Gordon there.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Good for you. Like, as bad as Juju has been, he's still been better than Gordon, right? Yeah, probably. But does that really matter? Is that really what we're looking at here? Well, yes, because that helps you put it back into the context of the expectations
Starting point is 00:52:45 we're worried about juju because he might only be as good as josh gordon no that's not like the whole trick like yes it's 100 josh gordon has not worried josh gordon played one game with antonio brown what are you saying right now adam listen do fantasy points really matter no i don't i don't think whether he scored four points i don't think it really does. I don't think it really does in this context because I think you look at half of Josh Gordon's games. One was against one of the toughest
Starting point is 00:53:14 matchups in fantasy, Buffalo, where we knew he was a bad start. And two was with Antonio Brown on the field. If Antonio Brown were playing, I would take Juju over him. I still might, but I think the argument for Josh Gordon is you look at the two games he played without Antonio Brown, and they were pretty good. And you just look at the way Juju's trending, it's down right now.
Starting point is 00:53:31 So I actually think that's more important than just looking at the first four games and the fantasy points. Well, Juju only scored his touchdown from Mason Rudolph, so he's been much better with Mason Rudolph than he has been with Ben Roethlisberger. If I can split it up into quarters played with Mason Rudolph in games in which Deontay Johnson didn't see at least 2.5 targets,
Starting point is 00:53:50 Juju's been awesome. Deontay Freeman, 0-10 on the Worryometer. See ya. I'm going to give Deontay a 10. I think Ido Smith is probably the better running back. Also, Josh Gordon plays the Redskins this week, so maybe we'll change our tune after this. We will.
Starting point is 00:54:05 We will. You and I won't, but Heath and Ben will. All right, so a big one, 10 for Devante Freeman from SIA. Heath, Ben? I was actually really encouraged by the fact they threw it to him nine times in their last game. They can't defend and they can't run, so the pass-catching back should have the value.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Three. Would you call him more of a buyer? Wow. Wow. So Heath. I'm with Sia. What do you think, Heath? I just told you what I thought.
Starting point is 00:54:35 All right. So let me then. Would you be willing to buy low on Devontae Freeman? Yes. If Ben or Sia have him on any teams, I would be happy to take him off their hand. I do not. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:50 This is from Tony Starks. Calvin Ridley, 0-10 on the Worry-O-Meter. Three. Oh, sorry. I'm not first. I'll give that another probably nine. I don't think Matt Ryan has time to hit those deep targets to Calvin Ridley. See, you're a nervous Nelly.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah, right. Are you okay? I'm worried about everyone. Are you okay, man? I don't like Ridley. I like Josh Gordon. You sold out every player. There you go.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Five for Ridley. I'm slightly concerned. Okay. Ben, three, you said? Yeah, it's like a three for me. I still really like him long term. I think a couple game situations haven't gone his way, but we're still working with small samples with all these guys,
Starting point is 00:55:32 and you give him a couple bad games, he looks bad, but he also had a really good week one. I think he's going to be fine as the larger sample, you know, continues to fill out. Yeah, I think fine. I was hoping for a big breakout and the fact that Hooper and Sanu are still getting so many targets
Starting point is 00:55:50 just doesn't really make me think he's going to be great. Sonny Michel, we've already talked about. Damian Williams, we have talked about, but let's do it again. Worryometer on Damian Williams. Sia. I'm discouraged by McCoy's role, but I'll give Damian
Starting point is 00:56:06 a four. I think he'll have a role when he comes back. Mine's a question mark because I don't actually understand what's wrong with Damian Williams. He had a bruised knee. He had a knee contusion. Are you worried that he's going to lose his job? Three weeks ago. Are you worried that he's going to lose his job? He can't practice.
Starting point is 00:56:22 What is the deal with his injury? That's a great point. I have no idea. His knee hurts. I know that much. I don't know. Really bad bruise, apparently. Seven?
Starting point is 00:56:36 If we're going back to the same thing we said with Judu, and it's about where the expectations started, he's not, in my opinion, unless something happens to LaShawn McCoy, doesn't have much of a chance at the role we were hoping for. the expectations started. He's not, in my opinion, unless something happens to LaShawn McCoy, doesn't have much of a chance at the role we were hoping for for him.
Starting point is 00:56:51 All right, we've got a minute left with Sia, and then Ben and I will stay on and do the iTunes mailbag and a regular, hopefully we'll read some regular emails
Starting point is 00:57:00 in a second. But Sia, I didn't really get to properly introduce you, so would you like to tell us about yourself and fantasy football? And, you know, the floor is yours. I'll make it short and sweet. I'm a fantasy football junkie, have been since about 2001 when I joined my first league. I'm from the Washington, D.C. area, the suburbs of D.C. And I'm in five leagues currently. It's a lot. I monitor a few more. But that's pretty much it. Are you a Redskins fan? Just big time Redskins fan. It's been a struggle the last
Starting point is 00:57:34 couple of decades when I was growing up. I thought we were going to go to Super Bowls every three to four years and it has not worked out that way. You said you monitor a few more and that's what interests me. Is this a situation like I've heard of some people where their family members have leagues, and they pretend like their family member is in the league, but they actually draft and run the team for their family member? Is it a situation like that?
Starting point is 00:57:56 Is this an Adam thing? No, but I do have one 4-0 team. It's just my wife manages the team. I just want to point that out. Is that kind of what you're doing there? That's what I'm doing. Okay. Yes. Okay, great. Well, Sia, thanks for coming on. Thanks for your donation and good stuff today.
Starting point is 00:58:12 And I'm going to declare you the honorary winner of Fantasy Feud. Ben, I apologize. Sia is the winner today. Well, I actually won. But I earned it. Ben actually won. Sia won. How did you win by not winning against me? How come it's always disputed who won when Adam hosts? We have to go the video portion here.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Keep watching on YouTube.com slash FantasyFootball today. You'll hear our mailbag for Sia, for Heath, for Ben. I'm Adam, but we're coming right back in just a moment. Well, before Ben and I answer your questions, if you have any questions about, hey, I need to go to a game or a concert, comedy theater, I need to get to an event, what app should I use? You should use the SeatGeek app, obviously. And you should use our promo code FFT and save 10 bucks. So that's 10 bucks off your first SeatGeek purchase with the promo code FFT. Been telling you about SeatGeek for a few years and one of our most
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Starting point is 00:59:50 Would you accept this trade? Yeah. You'd give up Andrews for Kittle? Yeah, I would definitely. I mean, look, Kittle hasn't been great to start the year. He had two touchdowns called back in week one. He's already had his bye now as well. So going forward, you don't have to worry about that. You don't have to carry a second tight end. You can just at any
Starting point is 01:00:08 point. I mean, obviously you don't necessarily need to if you have Andrews, but you'll have to pick one up for a bye week with Kittle. You just plug them in for the rest of the season. I definitely would still have Kittle over Andrews. Yeah, I would too. I was, I'm a little less enthused about Kittle than I was a couple of weeks ago because through three games, four games for everyone else, three for San Francisco, they have the second fewest pass attempts per game in the NFL ahead of only Minnesota. Now, week one, they had two pick sixes. Week two, they blew out the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:00:40 They were up big late. Week three, they were in a close game. They had the ball for like 36 minutes. They threw 32 passes. So I think this might be a running team. And that's just something you should consider here. But still, Kittle over Andrews makes sense. But Kittle easily leads the team in target share.
Starting point is 01:00:56 So that is the counter to that, at least a little bit. All right, from EMO. I'm considering offering Gurley and Diggs for Melvin Gordon. Would you give offering Gurley and Diggs for Melvin Gordon. Would you give up Gurley and Diggs for Melvin Gordon? I think that's a little bit of an overpay. I don't think it's crazy. I would put Gordon ahead of Gurley right now. But yeah, I mean, I wouldn't just be giving away Diggs free.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I understand there's, you know, it's a tough situation with how much they're throwing right now, but I still think longterm, you probably don't want to start them short term every week, but longterm, he's still going to be a very productive player. And I think they're gonna have to throw more eventually. Now,
Starting point is 01:01:38 EMO also said he could possibly get AJ Green. So we'd be giving up girly and digs for Gordon and AJ Green. And I would love that trade. That's not just like a throw in. I mean, AJ Green still So he'd be giving up Gurley and Diggs for Gordon and AJ Green. And I would love that trade. That's not just like a throw-in. I mean, AJ Green still has some value here. He's good value. Logan from a small town in Kentucky is in a 10-team half PPR. Give up Gurley and AJ Green.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Get DeAndre Hopkins. Is that too much for Hopkins? Gurley and Green. It's not for me, especially not in a 10-team. I think you want to consolidate elite talent i understand like aj green is going to be back eventually and you just noted he's not throwing but i don't necessarily know that we're going to see peak aj green when he does come back or what will happen with him and i i am down on girly i i think hopkins is going to be absolutely fine though
Starting point is 01:02:20 like he's been fine with volume and i think the production will come uh this is from ace crew ppr league i have ingram melvin gordon austin eckler and leonard fournette so he has in addition to marketing him he has melvin gordon eckler and fournette should i trade mark ingram for saquon barkley yeah i mean i would i don't think it really matters who else you have i would be fine trading mark ingram for saquon barkley even with barkley being hurt um and pretty much any format ingram's the guy that i've mentioned is a sell high just because he's had such such uh he's
Starting point is 01:02:57 gonna continue to be an efficient runner with lamar jackson as quarterback but he's had so many rushing touchdowns already we we talked about it on the feud part of the of the episode today that he's tied for the league lead. He's not going to run for 20 touchdowns. I just don't buy that. This is from Loin the Cut. Who do I start at flex? Juju against Baltimore, Gallman against Minnesota,
Starting point is 01:03:16 or Marquez Valdez-Scantling at Dallas? I'd probably just take the volume with Gallman. I don't think you can go to MVS. We just don't know what his targets will be like on a weekly basis. And Juju, obviously, a little bit of concern after what happened in week four. So I think you just go with Gallman and know that he's going to get plenty of touches.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And finally, from Benny, start two. Mixon against Arizona. Montgomery against Oakland. Eckler against Denver. and Gallman against Minnesota. I will take Mixon here. I think he gets it going a little bit against Arizona. Arizona's defense is really bad. I mean, I think we have to be concerned about Cincinnati as well,
Starting point is 01:03:59 but it's interesting that in the betting markets, Cincinnati is still favored in this game, even after their horrible showing on Monday night. And then my other option, I will go with Eckler. Gordon's going to be back, but I don't think you want to play Montgomery in London, and I'm just not really high on Montgomery, period. I like David Montgomery here.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I mean, I think this is a really good game script for him. Yeah, I mean, it's a good matchup as well. But Eckler, there's so many high-value touches in that backfield. this is a really good game script for him yeah i mean it's it's a good matchup as well but eckler there's so many high value touches in that backfield they they throw their running backs a ton and they give so much red zone work to their backs uh last week i think it was both the philip rivers touchdowns went to the running backs he loves to throw touchdowns to the running backs so even when eckler goes back to his secondary role i don't think it's going to be as small of roles it was last year when he was healthy.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And I also don't think immediately, because I think they're going to work Gordon in. And I also don't think it's going to kill his value that much, because he's still going to catch passes and still have the potential to score touchdowns. And let's see if we can get some regular good old-fashioned emails in here. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com.
Starting point is 01:05:02 This is from McKayzie. Trade or keep Juju Smith-Schuster? I'd keep him. Everyone is probably down on him right now. I don't think you're going to get nearly the amount of value you should need to deal a guy that has his upside as well if they figure something out downfield. All right, from Evan.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I have James Conner. Do I trade him now or sit on him for a little while i need help at running back i lost saquon i don't know like connor i'm pretty good with connor yeah like the usage is gonna be good yeah um yeah he's just super involved and they obviously need to ride him julio and mac or bell and juju which side would you rather have this is from nick julio j, Jones, and Marlon Mac, or Le'Veon Bell and Juju Smith-Schuster? That's a tricky one.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I don't know what I would take. I think I'd probably take Bell and Juju, but it's close. I think I'd take Julio and Mac. I like Bell to have a really good second half after we saw him just so heavily used in their first few weeks. And then Darnold hopefully coming back would improve the whole offense.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Okay. Uh, and then this is from the fantasy football sex symbol, Eddie Ray. Hmm. Interesting. I thought that was me in Boston, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:06:19 What's up, Tom, Drew, Jacoby, and Jimmy. Come on. Uh, quarterbacks that, uh, and Jimmy. Come on, Ben. Quarterbacks that...
Starting point is 01:06:28 Patriots quarterbacks. Hey, there you go. Good job, man. I took a flyer on Golden Tate. I can finally use him. Should I start, sell, or bench Golden Tate moving forward? And I think he's wondering about starting him over Sonny Michel. If it's PPR,
Starting point is 01:06:47 I think you can start him over Michel. I've mentioned already in the show I'm really down on Michel, so it's not really a huge... What's the word I'm trying to say? A huge... Endorsement is the word I'm looking for. A huge endorsement of Golden Tate. I'm not necessarily trying to jam him into lineups,
Starting point is 01:07:06 and I don't think there's really a lot of sell value. He's just kind of a guy. I just don't love... He's coming back and facing Minnesota and New England. So there's capped upside, I think. Minnesota could smother the Giants. Actually, that's a pretty good argument to sell if he does
Starting point is 01:07:26 have any value in someone's league. You're right. That's two bad matchups, and I could see him get cut in two weeks pretty easily. Right, right. Also, PPR versus non-PPR is a big difference when you're talking about Tate versus Sonny Michel. Anyway, we're getting played off right now by Ben Folds5.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Ben, thank you for your time. Sorry about Fantasy Feud. I know you really wanted to keep that title. Oh, no, I won. I mean, he thinks he won a tiebreaker. Oh, you gave it to our guest, of course. I'm sorry about that. All right, so tomorrow's starter sit
Starting point is 01:07:57 for the AFC home games. Thanks, everyone. See ya.

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