Fantasy Football Today - 10/03: How Valuable are Elite QBs?; Trade Talk; IND-NE (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 3, 2018We start with some buy low candidates (1:00) and discuss a few struggling RBs and their rest of season outlook. Then it's on to the sell high guys (8:15). Is Patrick Mahomes a sell high candidate? Jus...t how valuable are the elite QBs? We also have some buy high players (19:40) including Aaron Jones and possibly Kerryon Johnson ... It's time to to welcome back (27:15) some key players! Julian Edelman, Mark Ingram and Devonta Freeman are on their way back and we wonder what's in store going forward ... IND-NE (38:50), Fantasy Regulators Part One (45:45), random Fantasy questions (48:00), more Regulators (54:41) and Team Name Tuesday (1:00:00) to end the show ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
By low, sell high, and I hope you're ready to do some regulating, everybody.
Welcome to the Wednesday show.
We're also going to preview New England, Indianapolis.
Adam Azer with Jamie Isenberg and Heath Cummings.
And good morning, fellas.
Happy Wednesday.
Happy hump day.
Hey.
Hump day brought to you by Waverhub.
I mean.
That's a Wa Waiver Hub joke
that I will make.
There you go. How are we feeling about
trades and trade candidates
today? Got some good stuff?
Oh, yeah.
Jamie has a list here in front of his computer.
It's like a scroll.
Well prepared. Yes.
About 45 seconds ago, I said,
oh, by the way, guys, buy low, sell high on the show today.
So we're going to throw it at them.
Let's start with some buy low.
Heath, you always have buy low, guys.
I'm confident.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I know, Adam, what you're thinking.
And so I spent most of last night just scrolling through, looking for guys that you could buy low.
I think somebody I'm going to make some offers on,
because I already own him in 90% of my leagues,
I might as well own him in 100%, is T.Y. Hilton.
Because it was very encouraging what we saw from Andrew Luck in week four.
I don't think this is an injury that's going to keep Hilton out for a month.
So, and I think you could probably,
he's kind of been a little bit of a disappointment, I guess, and he's hurt.
So I'm going to try to make some offers for T.Y. Hilton.
Okay, yeah, we don't expect him to play in this game at the Patriots tomorrow,
but hopefully back after that.
And, yeah, get all that T.Y. Hilton.
I'll say something that's encouraging, what we saw from Andrew Luck.
I'll give you a little stat here.
Andrew Luck threw 62 passes last week, and he scored, what was it, 44 fantasy points?
If he had thrown his typical number of passes based on—
What is his typical number of passes?
I took his average in his most recent full seasons.
He would have scored like 27 fantasy points.
So, okay, so here's what I mean.
If he had thrown 39 passes, which is kind of like what he usually averages,
he would have scored 26 fantasy points and 6 points for passing touchdown leagues.
He threw 62 passes last week.
So, yeah, he did look pretty good.
He had some bad touchdown luck in previous weeks. This weeks Guys not coming down with the ball in the end zone
But we're going to talk a lot about Andrew Luck today
Thought that was kind of interesting
We sort of overlooked the fact that he threw 62 times
In week 4
Yeah I don't think that's
He's not going to throw 62 very often
But his 4 games now have been
53, 31, 40, and 62
He's going to lead the league in pass attempts.
Ooh, that's bold.
Is he currently leading the league in pass attempts?
I think Joe Flacco is currently.
Okay.
All right, so T.Y. Hilton.
Anyone else?
Jamie, you want to throw one in there?
Yeah, I'll give you two of my scroll.
Rob Gronkowski.
Yes. Because I think there's a lot of people
frustrated with his production, clearly.
And I'm sure you could probably turn
Jared Cook and a player into Rob
Gronkowski, which
somebody has some other need someplace else.
And Keenan Allen.
I don't think this is going to continue
with his lackluster play.
And a correction, Kirk Cousins has thrown three more passes than Andrew Luck, but he did, I think Keenan Allen. I don't think this is going to continue with his lackluster play.
And a correction, Kirk Cousins has thrown three more passes than Andrew Luck, but I think he's also played more football.
How has he played more football?
He had a full overtime, where I think he threw more passes than that overtime. I think Luck's wasn't quite as much.
Okay. All right. Yeah, that's good. Okay, so Keenan Allen, Robin Krasinski.
And Gronk, we talked about last week.
I mean, that was one of the bylaws we highlighted.
It didn't work out.
He's hurt.
Do you think he's going to play this week?
Yes.
I think he's going to play, but I won't be surprised if he doesn't.
Okay.
And, you know, we also said, would you take Kelsey or Ertz over Gronkowski last week?
And it was kind of like, well, I don't know.
But I think at this point, is Kelsey the clear number one tight end?
I think our answer last week was yes, we would take those two guys over Gronk. And I think that's still the same answer.
Maybe.
I don't remember it being that definitive.
Maybe for you.
Definitely not for me.
I don't know.
Okay. Jamie?
At this point, I think you have to take those
two guys over.
That's it.
I'm going to give you some by-low candidates
to tell me how good they are as by-low candidates.
We talked about them on Sunday night.
Alex Collins, Kenyon Drake, and Jordan
Howard. What do you think about these guys
rest of season?
I think with any of those guys, you could throw somebody like maybe
LeSean McCoy in there or Demaryius Thomas and just guys that are just
really underperforming.
If you can get them really cheap, you try to do that.
It's trying to turn some of these guys that are playing, I think, a little bit over their heads or just having somewhat breakout seasons and not knowing if it's going to continue into somebody that could maybe help you down the road.
Your record dictates that situation, obviously dictates that, but it's never a bad idea to try to explore finding a talented player
that may be in a little bit of a bad situation right now,
but that can turn around.
I think I'd rank them Howard, Collins, Drake.
I'm scared about Drake
right now.
The offensive line is in bad shape.
The offensive line is in bad shape.
Adam Gase seems to hate his guts.
I don't think Adam Gase hates him.
You don't think so?
No, I think it's just been situational to an extent.
And I said it's the preseason.
These coaches, for whatever reason, it's the same thing with Detroit.
They fall in love with these veteran guys because they tend to do the right thing.
And Gore does the right thing.
But he's not more talented than Kenya Drake at this point.
Oh, no, certainly not.
And I'm going to look it up right now i'm
assuming the dolphins are are running the fewest plays in football i think you might check arizona
as well uh oh you're right okay so arizona the bills and oh no i'm looking at the wrong stand
looking at yards per game okay who's got the few the fewest? Carolina, Arizona, and the Bills have the –
no, Carolina is not per game.
So Arizona and then Miami.
Carolina had the bye.
Yeah, you're right.
Arizona, two fewer plays than the Miami Dolphins so far.
Does that make sense?
So Dallas and Carolina and – no.
Actually, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Arizona has run the fewest plays per game.
Miami has run the second fewest plays per game.
But are we looking at them as bylaws and Howard, Drake, and Collins as anything more than just take some spare part and try to turn them in?
Or I have confidence that these guys are going to be good the rest of the season.
I think Heath's ranking is accurate.
There's still a lot to like about Jordan Howard.
It's just you're coming off a game where they had such an offensive explosion
that leaves a bad taste in your mouth that he didn't do a lot.
And Collins with the fumbles.
But those two guys are in situations where things should improve if they get
the type of workload that you're used to seeing them getting.
With Drake, it's just the things around him right now are falling apart.
So he may start to get more work, but losing two members of your offensive line
and having another guy in Juwan James banged up, it's not encouraging.
And you've called Adrian Peterson a sell-high.
Would you sell Adrian Peterson for any of Alex Collins, Kenyon Drake, or Jordan Howard?
Howard for sure.
I'd do Collins as well.
I think you should.
Okay.
All right.
How about sell-high candidates, fellas?
Anyone you want to sell?
Still Patrick Mahomes.
I was thinking about this.
So quarterback's obviously deep.
But if you don't have an elite quarterback, are you really losing ground?
Are you putting yourself behind the eight ball?
We just picked Phillip Rivers up off waivers in a league. And Phillip Rivers should be owned, and that's a 10-team league.
Rivers should be owned.
Every week, there will be a top 10 quarterback available on the waiver wire in most leagues.
Well, let me ask you this question.
And insert whatever player you want.
But if you could turn Patrick Mahomes into Jordan Howard.
No, I don't know that.
Well, it depends who my other quarterbacks are.
And if you have Andy Dalton on your bench.
I guess I'm more likely to do it there.
If you have Blake Bortles on your bench?
No.
No.
But you say happily.
Oh, I would giggle.
But I just, look, fantasy points are fantasy points, right?
And I think we run the risk of oversimplifying how deep quarterback is
when the elite ones are scoring a ton of points.
You can get 23 fantasy points from a quarterback and technically have a top 12 quarterback.
But the number one quarterback just scored 50.
The number six quarterback just scored 35.
There have been three weeks in a row with at least eight quarterbacks to score 30 or more fantasy points.
But just in the case of Mahomes, there is a likely scenario that his three best games are behind him.
Okay, if you want to approach it from that way that he's not going to be as good going forward.
Again, just for argument's sake, you've talked about, rightfully so, and it just happened this past week,
how Derek Carr has been playing well, but the fantasy production hasn't been there.
So you go from Mahomes' hot streak to Carr's hot streak.
Does it really feel that way to you, though?
I'm not saying it's going to happen, but the point would be is that you just kind of catch the right waves at the right time,
and you're enhancing your roster in a different way uh well i can't i can't really
get behind that because that's just a guess that derrick carr is going to be that way if i but it
may not be car it may be my homes i'm sorry maybe bordles who has played well with for net not being
active and he gets a couple of good games under his belt it may be that it's it's dalton we're
seeing it now it's flacco who's been playing well and just hasn't had the high ceiling yet.
But you're telling me you would trade Patrick Mahomes
and then just be totally fine with starting Joe Flacco?
No, it clearly depends on who else you have on your team.
It'd be a week-to-week basis.
You can still stream quarterback.
I know Patrick Mahomes was awesome for two weeks.
We've already seen him come back to earth.
Three weeks.
He scored 30 points in week three.
He threw for 304 yards at Denver on Monday.
But these are the questions you have to ask
yourself as
a Mahomes owner, as a
Adrian Peterson owner.
Any player that
you're selling high on, have we seen the best
of him already? And is it worth
trying to flip that to somebody else who thinks
that this is going to be sustainable?
If I could trade him for Antonio Brown, I would do that.
I guess that's ridiculous.
No, it's not ridiculous.
Okay, fine.
If I could trade him for Odell Beckham, I would do that.
But I feel a lot better about Beckham than I do about Jordan Howard.
I mean, I think if you look at Tariq Cohen, I don't know if you could look this up easily,
but I think if you look at the Tariq Cohen-Jordan Howard split every week, it has gone
in Cohen's favor more and more from week one to two to week two to three to week three to four.
I don't really know. Okay, but don't just use Howard as an example. It's just anybody that
you sort of view as a... If you could turn... All right, I'll ask you this. So if you have
Mahomes, Dalton, Jared Cook, would you turn Mahomes and Jared Cook into Gronk?
Oh, absolutely.
I would turn Mahomes into Gronk.
But I don't think the Gronk owner does that.
The point is –
Yeah, I would do that, Jamie.
Absolutely.
Jared Cook is a sell-high candidate.
I mean there are plenty of situations where you just have to – I think it's just the broader picture of not just nitpicking Mahomes as the sell high and Howard as the buy low.
It's what has the guy done to date, and will this be something that will continue?
That's the only thing you have to ask yourself.
And if you believe that it will not, then you try and get the best thing you can in return for it.
But if you think that Mahomes is a stud, okay, look, maybe –
He is a stud.
No one is disputing that Mahomes is a stud.
But is he a stud at 30 plus points per week, or is he a stud at 24 plus points per week?
I don't know that.
What's more realistic?
I don't know that anyone's going to average 30 points per game, but I think – is he your number one quarterback rest of season?
He's my number one quarterback now, but I would not be surprised if Matt Ryan's better than him.
My last point. First of all, yeah, if you have Mahomes and Matt Ryan, I don, I would not be surprised if Matt Ryan's better than him. My last point.
First of all, yeah, if you have Mahomes and Matt Ryan, I don't disagree with you at all.
But I look at my teams, and I notice, you know, I'm sure a lot of people are in this boat where, like, your RB2 kind of stinks or it's not reliable.
Maybe your flex isn't so good.
You know, you can still win games if you have enough difference makers.
And Mahomes is going to give you a ton of fantasy points,
and I don't want to just give that up for an RB2 that's going to be frustrating.
I'll give you an example of a team I have in Mahomes.
I have Mahomes, I think I mentioned this last week or maybe early this week.
I picked up Russell Wilson, who was dropped.
And just to see. I'll carry him for a couple weeks
just to see if this turns around for him
with Doug Baldwin getting healthy.
I don't think I'm going to trade Mahomes
feeling comfortable in Russell Wilson right now.
But if it was, let's say, we talked about this before,
prior to last week, Jared Goff,
I picked him up in two leagues.
That's an easy move to make.
Is it?
I mean, okay, I more or less agree with that.
Goff has had some bad fantasy point luck in the first two games, but he's thrown for 300.
Yes.
Okay, fine.
I totally agree with that, Jamie.
Yes.
But I do think that, for me personally, if I were going to trade Paschum to Holmes or
an elite quarterback, I would like to feel comfortable that I have another elite quarterback
on my team.
If I didn't, I wouldn't. I would take out the word elite and just think of where's that
guy's floor on a week-to-week basis because that's, I think, what you're getting at. You know you're
getting those guaranteed fantasy points from that player. Like Mahomes, I think his floor is probably
20. So which quarterbacks are in this discussion where if you've got two of them, you'd feel totally fine trading one of them.
I think Goff and Mahomes.
Yeah, but who?
I mean, Breeze, Ryan, Deshaun Watson?
I'd be happy to trade Breeze.
Breeze is interesting.
We've got to talk about what's going to happen with the Saints.
I think it's any of these guys, though, at that position.
No.
Well, it stops somewhere.
No.
Well, it stops in terms of guys that you're selling high,
but I think any quarterback that's playing well right now, Rivers, Ryan,
if you still want to put Roethlisberger in there,
obviously the lesser guys are easy to sell.
Flacco's easy to sell.
But I'm not sure I feel that way about Brady.
In terms of him being a sell-high candidate?
No, in terms of him being I'm fine with him as my only quarterback rest of season.
You're not?
I don't know.
I mean, if we're going to have the kind of year
where Patrick Mahomes and Matt Ryan and Drew Brees
and Ben Roethlisberger and Phillip Rivers
are doing all this stuff,
then Brady might be like QB8 rest of season.
But he's also getting his arsenal back.
Yeah, I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful.
Okay, fine.
I'd be fine with QB8 rest of the season.
Yeah, I mean, back yeah i'm hopeful i'm hopeful okay i'd be fine with qb8 rest of the season yeah i i mean i don't i just worry that we're oversimplifying like quarterbacks deep and you can just stream
whoever you want you're gonna be fine the truth no it's not it's absolutely not 100 no okay so
stream russell wilson who's your who's your number 12 quarterback you streamed eli manning last week
so did i i streamed andrew luck last week. So did I. I streamed Andrew Luck last week, too.
And he threw 62 passes.
So, you know, good luck.
I'm just going to randomly.
Stafford is your number 12 quarterback this week for all three of you.
I'm going to randomly that the three of us are in.
It's our Fantasy Football Today League.
You tell me.
These are the guys available on waivers right now.
Would you be comfortable with them, your starting quarterback, rest of way?
Joe Flacco. No. I'd be comfortable with them, your starting quarterback, rest of way? Joe Flacco.
No.
I'd be comfortable starting him this week.
Okay.
Jameis Winston.
Yep.
Probably.
Marcus Mariota.
No.
Questionable.
Derek Carr.
You know, kind of interested to see where that goes,
maybe one week away from saying yes.
Okay, but see, these are the decisions you have to make.
Can you get by with this type of quarterback?
I'm not going to throw Mitch Trubisky and whatever out there, but Tannehill, Eli Manning?
No, no.
Like last week, we were all about Ryan Tannehill.
Then he has one crappy game against the Patriots, and now forget Ryan Tannehill,
which is how it should have been because he's throwing 25 times a game.
Hell no, I'm not comfortable with Ryan Tannehill.
We're holding Andrew Luck throwing a bunch of passes against him and holding Ryan Tannehill
not throwing enough passes.
Yes, he's throwing 25 passes every week.
We need to find a guy that's throwing 35 passes.
No, I'm just saying, why would I trust Ryan Tannehill to be my quarterback?
He doesn't throw the ball enough.
Eliminate him from this discussion.
This is the discussion.
This is the thought process that someone has to have if I want to get rid of stud quarterback X and who can I pivot to.
I agree.
That's the decision you have to make.
It's also obviously what you're getting back in return for that guy.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, look, if I were drafting again today and let's just say Patrick Mahomes was my number one quarterback, I still don't think he's a second-round pick in a 12-team league.
But for me, he'd probably be a top-30 pick.
And if we got to the point where I'm looking at the three guys we talked about,
Alex Collins, Kenyon Drake, Jordan Howard, and these RB2s that are hit or miss,
I'm probably taking Mahomes over them.
Now, would I take Mahomes over like Sonny Michel?
Probably not.
I'd probably go Michel.
Okay, so there's a great trade.
Would you trade Mahomes for Michel right now?
I think I would.
But you wouldn't do it for Howard?
I have enough concerns.
I don't think I would.
But maybe I'm just low on Howard.
Maybe that's what it comes down to.
Heath, did you give any sell highs? You want to chime in? I don't think I would, but maybe I'm just low on Howard. Maybe that's what it comes down to. Heath, did you give any sell highs?
You want to chime in?
I don't think I did.
I'm still – I was full mixed.
Yeah.
You know, I actually really enjoyed that impromptu quarterback conversation.
Yeah, I think it was very good.
I think, like we've said for most of the offseason,
quarterback doesn't really matter that much.
And I understand that after four weeks,
some people may have changed their opinion on that.
And I think there's another obvious sell-high one.
That's Le'Veon.
Oh, okay.
Well, that doesn't seem like an obvious sell-high to me,
so please expand.
Well, there's a level of excitement now that you have a day or date, week in mind,
that he's going to return.
And so I think we sort of talked about this on Tuesday,
that if you can find the owner who's 4-0, 3-1, good 2-2 team,
that may be willing to give you some spare parts that could be good in return.
That's a trade you should explore.
Wish we could trade him and James Conner for Melvin Gordon and Austin Eckler.
Is that a trade you guys made?
Yeah, that was a terrible trade.
That was before the season started.
We traded the Chargers guys for Steelers.
Yeah, I remember that one.
That's interesting how it worked out.
I mean, look, it hasn't been that bad.
Conner's certainly been startable.
Okay, so buy high.
I want to give three guys.
Tell me if their buy high is coming off good weeks.
I mean, you might have to pay up a little bit, but it's worth it.
Aaron Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Corey Davis.
I'll give you a trade that our buddy James Questel is exploring as an Aaron Jones owner.
Golden Tate and half PPR for Aaron Jones.
I think I'd take Jones.
I think I'd probably...
I mean, it would depend on your team,
but I think I'd probably take Tate.
Yeah, for his team, Tate makes more sense.
He's losing Hilton as his really only safe wide receiver
because he, as you can imagine,
whose advice he follows,
he went all in on Chris Hogan and Marquise Goodwin
as his number two and number three receivers.
So he needs some receiver depth.
But I think those are kind of equal players in half PPR.
PPR, it's 100% tape.
Yeah, I think all of these guys...
Yeah, go ahead.
So Jones, Karyon Johnson, and Corey Davis.
Do you think you're buying high on carry on though i don't know
you tell me i mean i think a lot of people feel like he's going to take over that role um he's
obviously the best ball carrier in detroit uh even after what patricia said though i i agree with you
i mean i think there's there's to me i think there's another level he can get to yeah i might
uh i might wait another week.
Get the Packers and then a bye, and then see if I can buy him.
I mean, he's an offer he rejected on Kerryon Johnson.
He did.
He offered me Hayden Hurst and a first-round pick for Kerryon Johnson and a third-round pick.
Hayden Hurst.
Dynasty.
Dynasty.
And basically, that trade, because I have too many running backs in that league,
that trade just came down to whether I thought Jamie was going to be good or bad this year.
Because if I thought Jamie was one of the bottom three or four teams in the league, I would do it.
Good for that first-round pick.
He's not.
Oh, he's Todd Gurley, right?
No.
Oh.
No.
I mean, he's a two and two?
I'm two and two, but that's the all-suspension team.
I have Winston, Ingram, and Edelman.
Character team.
Corey Davis, you know, I called him a buy-low last week.
He had 15 targets, 161 yards, and a touchdown in overtime against Philadelphia.
And he has a really tough schedule coming up, I believe, at Buffalo.
No, it's not. Who's got the tough schedule coming up, I believe, at Buffalo. Oh, no.
Who's got the tough schedule coming up?
Well, Kerryon Johnson, after his bye.
You know what?
I'm sorry, guys. There is somebody that I put.
I highlighted in the notes.
That is a really tough schedule coming up that I really wanted to talk about.
That's why I never read your notes.
I will find it.
I will find it.
I will find it, and I will.
Oh, I think it was –
Notes provided by –
It's Alshon Jeffery.
It's Alshon Jeffery.
That's who it is, and we will talk about that later.
Oh, my gosh.
Wait till you see what Alshon Jeffery has coming up.
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News and notes.
Mike Tomlin says he has not spoken to Le'Veon Bell.
So do you think that Le'Veon Bell will play by week eight?
I don't know if he'll play by week eight.
He'll play by week eight.
Mike Tomlin does this all the time.
I've talked to him too many times at the owners' meetings
where he just wants to be tough guy coach
and not fall into narrative of whatever's going on around the team.
So where would you rank him right now, rest of season?
Top 12.
Top 20.
Would you take Jordan Howard or
Le'Veon Bell?
Le'Veon.
Definitely Le'Veon at PPR.
Okay.
Then I'll go a little bit lower.
Only an idiot would take Jordan Howard.
No, I don't feel that way.
Would you take Patrick Mahomes or Le'Veon Bell?
Bell.
Okay.
Oh, Bell, yes, for sure.
Hugh Jackson says Nick Chubb needs more work.
He also said that Antonio Callaway might see fewer snaps.
What do you make of that?
Who else are they going to play over Callaway at this point?
Rashard Higgins?
They've thrown the ball a bunch to Callaway, and it's not gone well so far.
I love the volume he's getting, and I love the upside,
but he does look like a kid that's not quite figured it out yet.
How about Nick Chubb, 56% owned?
I mean, he has 10 carries this year.
He just had a huge game at Oakland.
Do you think Chubb is a must-own guy?
Depends on how deep your rosters are.
So, no.
If you can stash any talented player, that's a great move to make. He's a talented player.
And obviously, if you're the Hyde owner, it makes more sense.
Devontae Freeman is expected to play this week. That's wonderful.
Let's go through some of the do you expects that we did
yesterday.
Do you expect...
Let's start with Dalvin Cook.
Dalvin Cook. Yes.
Ezekiel Elliott. Yes.
Chris Carson.
Yes.
Marlon Mack, T.Y. Hilton.
Yes and no.
Oh, you think Mack plays?
It sounds like it.
Okay.
Will Fuller.
Will Fuller.
Yes.
Josh Gordon.
Yes.
Geronimo Allison, Randall Cobb.
No, no.
Okay.
I think that's pretty much all I got.
Oh, Joe Mixon.
What about Devante Parker?
Joe Mixon.
Joe Mixon, no, but don't be surprised if he does play.
And that would be your quick little news update here on Fantasy Football today.
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Maybe we should just move this part to the end.
For the 15 or 20 minutes.
Which part to the end? The how you doing part?
The part we've just done.
Doesn't it make you feel encouraged that all these people
are responding to us that we should go longer?
No.
It's not all these people.
It is encouraging that people enjoy the longer shows.
What response has gotten you – what response has been given to you that says, no, Adam, we should not go longer?
Has anybody suggested that?
Excuse me.
Do you want to go longer?
Do you want to do longer podcasts?
Because you got work to do, buddy.
Yes, but I – well, look, I could always get up and leave.
That's true.
I think we should give – we should never cut off discussions in the sake of saving a few minutes.
I have to disagree because of the reasons I laid out yesterday.
But what we do have to do is get a little musical today.
Okay.
Let's say a big, happy, hearty, killing time.
To several players who are coming back this week, or soon.
Julian Edelman, Joe Mixon, Devante Freeman, Mark Ingram, Greg Olson.
What do we expect in these situations going forward?
Let's start.
Breaking news.
Greg Olson's returning?
Soon enough.
Oh, okay.
Threw him in there.
Joe Mixon's probably not returning this week either, but Julian Edelman is.
What do we expect from Edelman moving forward and from the Patriots?
I'm conflicted on this week.
For the rest of the season, I think he'll probably be Julian Edelman.
This is an interesting situation because he's going to get two practices.
He's not played football in 18 months, and we've not seen him him he's 32 years old coming off of a pretty significant knee injury and all
he said in the preseason was i don't feel like i'm there yet so i'm a little concerned in the
very first week back especially if gronk plays if gronk's out then i think he's a great play this
week i love the setup for him logically you right, because two practices after not playing in a year plus is a little tough to trust.
But it's not like he's going to a team that he doesn't know or a situation he doesn't know
and a quarterback he doesn't have a rapport with.
And the situation is just beautiful because the Colts may have three members of their secondary out because of injury.
They're coming off a short week on the road where they just played 77 defensive snaps.
That's a tired defense.
I don't care how well conditioned these guys are.
That's tired.
And so this is a national TV game for the Patriots where Brady is still, I think,
a little bit annoyed with what happened prior to last week
where they're done once again.
It's another September lull.
I think he's going to light up this team,
and I think Edelman's going to have a chance to get probably his usual nine targets a week,
which is what he averages over the course of his career.
If I could kind of steer it toward seasonal, though, because we will preview this game.
Okay.
I think he hits the ground running.
Okay.
Do you think Edelman's
a top 20 wide receiver?
PPR, yes. Non-PPR, he's close.
It's just such a
deep position. It's hard to say he's going to be that good
because of the touchdowns, but I think he'll score three
over the course of the 13 games he plays.
Or 12 games he plays. Would you rather have Edelman
or Kenny Galladay? Galladay.
Really? Okay.
Even in PPR? No. Edelman and PPR or Galladay? I think I'd take Galladay? Galladay. Really? Okay. Even in PPR?
No.
Edelman in PPR or Galladay?
I think I'd take Galladay in both.
Would you rather have Edelman or a Rams wide receiver?
All of the Rams.
He's probably mixed in there.
I'd probably take Cooks for sure over him.
Okay.
We will say welcome back eventually to Joe Mixon.
And my question is – Well, Heath, I want to ask you.
Edelman or Fitzgerald, rest away.
Let's see Julian on Thursday.
That's not – no.
No, I mean, to Heath's point, right, we did document this in the preseason.
Older wide receivers coming back from ACL injuries have struggled.
I was almost happy that he had a four-game suspension to give him a little bit more time,
but that has to be on your mind a little bit.
Joe Mixon.
So the question is, what happens to Giovanni Bernard?
We have a very small sample size, but remember last year, Joe Mixon,
I think it was week three against the Packers, started getting the work.
They basically eliminated Giovanni Bernard from the game plan. Then Joe Mixon gets I think it was week three against the Packers, started getting the work. They basically eliminated Giovanni Bernard from the game plan.
Then Joe Mixon gets a concussion.
Gio gets big work.
And Mixon played two games after coming back from the concussion last year.
In those two games, he had five touches in the first game.
He got eased back in.
Gio had a huge game.
He had 30 touches and 178 total yards, 68 total yards, something like that,
70 total yards, and a touchdown against Detroit.
Terrible defense.
Now let's look at Week 17.
Week 17, Mixon had 18 carries and one catch.
Bernard had 10 carries and six catches.
In that case, you had two fantasy-relevant guys.
Dalton's throwing a lot more now.
There's a lot going on in this offense.
What happens when Mix Nixon comes back?
I don't think it's right away Nixon gets the workload he was getting before the injury.
And they probably are going to want to see how he does dealing with the injury
because it could be something that they don't want to risk a setback.
Look, the Bengals right now are in a position to potentially win the division,
certainly put themselves in the wild card discussion
because they've gotten off to a great start.
And so what makes the most sense for them
is to have the guy who they expected to be their workhorse
and who looks like a legitimate feature back in Joe Mixon
healthy December and January.
So the next three or four games are going to be telling
how they sort of baby him a little bit.
That said,
if I have Joe Mixon,
I'd probably take I don't want to say 100%
wait-and-see approach because your roster may dictate that you need
to put him in there, but
you're going to probably end up starting him more times than not.
Do you think
he's a stud? He was looking
like he was going to be a freaking stud this year.
Do you think we're going to get that from Mixon?
That's the guy I was expecting when I was hyping him up this summer.
I think he'll get back to that.
It's just a matter of how healthy is the knee.
Just one thing to keep in mind, Gio did not finish the game in week three,
week four, excuse me, and hopefully he's 100%.
Heath, do you think Giovanni Bernard will be flexible going forward?
I think he'll be flexible this week even if Mixon plays.
I think there's a chance that happens for a second week.
I have to
assume that what they want to do at the beginning of the year
is what they want to do. Once Mixon
they're sure he's 100%. It may
just be determined by how effective he is
over the next two weeks. I don't think you can
say moving forward.
This week, if both of them are
playing, I'm probably going to end, if both of them are playing,
I'm probably going to end up starting both of them in most leagues.
Heath, give me your take on the Falcons' backfield
with Devontae Freeman expected back this week.
Remember this stat.
Last year he had five games with 18 or more carries.
He scored 13 or more fantasy points in non-PPR in all five of those games,
says Devontae Freeman.
He had nine games with 12 or fewer carries, and he averaged 40 rushing yards per game.
He scored one touchdown and just wasn't very good.
Your take on the Falcons going forward?
I don't feel very confident in him this week, except as a touchdown or bust flex, because
I don't think he probably gets 12 carries.
This game looks like an absolute bonanza of fantasy points.
Just raining down fantasy points upon us.
That's so cruel.
Atlanta, Pittsburgh.
And I would expect Coleman's going to see more work in this game than Freeman does,
and he's needed the work to be productive.
So I'd be really hesitant to start him this week.
Yeah, I mean, Coleman, he hasn't been great on a per-carry basis,
but his last two games came against the Saints and the Bengals.
And the Saints, at least, I mean, they allow 3 yards per carry.
The Bengals have been kind of up and down, but not bad run defenses.
All right, Mark Ingram is coming back.
Yeah!
The Saints are running the ball
four fewer times per game this year
than they did last year.
They have gone from 13th in rush attempts
to 21st in rush attempts per game.
They have gone from 19th in pass attempts
per game last year to 9th in pass attempts
per game this year.
The defense is worse,
but they also didn't have Mark Ingram.
So what the heck happens in the Saints' backfield?
I mean, look, Ingram's got fresh legs,
and the majority of his production last year came in the final 12 games of the season.
So there's at least a track record of him having done this before,
being productive in a somewhat smaller stretch of time.
Is he going to have a little bit of rust, potentially?
Is Kamara going to take on more work?
Sure, he should.
But I still think Ingram is a number two running back
in the initial stages of the return from the suspension
and eventually can get back to being a top ten guy.
But it's Kamara's backfield.
You shouldn't be worried about Kamara at all.
No, I think the difference may be that Kamara is a top five running back
rest of season instead of the number one running back rest of season.
But that doesn't really matter in terms of what you do with your lineup.
I'm starting Mark Ingram this week.
I'd rather start him than the two guys we've talked about so far,
Mixon and Freeman.
I expect he'll be better than both those guys rest of season.
I think it's probably close to a 50-50 split in terms of rushes.
I expect Ingram to get more short yardage work
and maybe take just a few targets away from Alvin Kamara.
Yeah, I mean, Ingram is a great pass-catching running back in his own right,
and he's been a top-12 PPR running back three straight years.
Does Drew Brees lose value now?
Is now the time to sell Brees?
Yeah, I think he loses a little bit.
It doesn't go back to last year, but somewhere in the middle.
Actually, it blows my mind that he's going to set the NFL passing record this week.
Why?
He's about to pass Peyton Manning for most passing yards in the NFL.
Oh, it blows your mind that, oh, yeah, but why?
That it's happened already.
He's not done by any stretch.
Like, when Manny did it, he was done.
When Favre did it, he was done.
Breeze, if he plays two or three more years, I would not be surprised.
Yeah, he's incredible there.
He got the Monday night game against Washington.
Monday night at home, usually a really good thing for Drew Breeze.
Got to look into how he did on Sunday and Monday night at home last year,
which was kind of a down year for him.
All right, we'll save Greg Olson for another time.
But, you know, I'll just ask you real quick.
Like, I know I picked up Greg Olson, I think, in our podcast league,
and I definitely think he's worth adding and stashing.
But at the same time, I mean, I had some concerns going into the year.
He's an older guy who dealt with a foot injury last year.
He had another foot injury this year, a different foot. Are we confident that Greg Olson
is going to be
top 5-7
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No, just outside of that.
If you guarantee his health,
you'll be comfortable with starting him every week.
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I think it is time to preview the Thursday night game.
Colts at Patriots.
A lot of injuries on defense for the Colts, so keep that in mind.
But we'll start with Indianapolis.
And I ask you, really, there's no history of Andrew Luck without T.Y. Hilton, so this is a little tricky.
Start or sit, Andrew Luck?
Oh, sit, sit, sit.
Yeah, you have to sit him.
Okay.
I'm in one league where I can't make a transaction because I have keeper ramifications and good players on my bench with bye weeks.
But if you can find a way to carry two quarterbacks and play
somebody else over luck don't drop luck only an idiot would drop luck yeah that was me that was me
so dalton bordles flacco all over luck i'd play flacco over luck too yeah i said that
is that a joke that's one of my favorite things that happened. I love it so much.
I know you were paying attention.
You just didn't hear it.
However, not Eli Manning, not Marcus Mariota.
You don't have to go that far.
He has a good chance he's chasing points in this game.
Okay, are there any Colts running backs or Colts wide receivers you would start?
I'm planning on starting Hines in PPR.
I'm going to feel less comfortable about that with Robert Turbin activated if Marlon Mack plays.
Because then it's kind of just a mess.
Yeah.
So the way I see it, the Colts have been trailing in three games this year.
The only exception being the Redskins game.
And he caught one pass
in that game.
The other three games, Marlon Mack had five or more catches.
But you're right, the Marlon Mack, I said Marlon Mack, I'm sorry, Naeem Hines had five
or more catches in the three games in which they were trailing.
But Mack, Turbin, all coming back.
Turbin's 2% owned, is he worth stashing?
And same question for Marlon Mack, who's 66% owned,
but you could still, in theory, stash him.
Just depends on what your roster is.
If you want to speculate on one of these guys, sure.
But, I mean, at what point is Mac going to give you sustained playing?
Not just production, just sustained being on the field.
Yeah.
I've been very frustrated with him.
And then, you know, when everybody's healthy,
is Turbin really that much better that they're giving him all of a sudden all this work?
Yeah, probably not.
The hope would be is that Turbin plays, Mack doesn't, Wilkins gets benched,
and Hines just sticks in his role.
Would you start any of these guys over Aaron Jones or Jamal Williams?
Over Williams, yes.
Jones, no.
I'd start Hines over Jones in PPR if Mack is out.
Okay.
The wide receivers, Chester Rogers, Zach Paschal, Ryan Grant.
Anybody here?
I think Rogers is the number three receiver in PPR if you're stuck.
Grant is my favorite, but I think you could pick any one of these three guys.
Just drink a lot and start throwing darts.
Yeah.
The Patriots, so far their storyline has been they've been great at home defensively,
terrible on the road, and they're at home.
Eric Ebron is a must-start.
He's top eight in both formats, as high as fifth for Dave in non-PPR.
Ebron has been pretty bad on a per-target basis,
but he's gotten double-digit targets two straight games,
and you're going to start Eric Ebron.
Yes, the Patriots allowed the fewest fantasy points
to tight ends. No, they haven't played anyone good.
So don't worry about that.
Tom Brady, start or sit?
Start him.
Yeah, Jamie, you're
really...
He said start him. Jamie, what you said earlier makes me feel
like you're super high on Brady this week.
Yeah, I mean, it's a great setup
for him. Tired defense.
Bad secondary right now that's beat up.
He's getting his
weapons back. It should be
all systems go for him.
It's really
frustrating
to rank the wide receivers
feeling like Tom Brady's going to
have a huge game.
James White's going to be a huge game because I,
James White's going to be awesome.
Gronk, if he plays,
will be really good.
And one of those receivers is going to have a good game.
I just don't have any idea
how to determine
which one it's going to be.
I think it's interesting
to have Brady six for Jamie,
fourth for Heath,
behind Matt Ryan in the,
well, for Heath anyway,
in the B word, unofficial.
Right, basically even with Jared Goff ahead of Breeze, ahead of Cam.
All right.
All right.
Moving on.
James White.
I forgot James White.
You start him in PPR for sure.
Do you start James White in non-PPR?
I do.
Yeah, he's still
a number two running back. He loses a little bit now
because of what game flow should be and
the emergence of Sonny Michelle
and with Elliman
back too. He's been such a factor in the
passing game. Not that that's going to be a huge hit for him, but
it's going to be a hit. Would you start
James White or James Connor?
Connor. Connor. James White
or Adrian Peterson?
White in PPR.
I believe I have White higher on both.
James White or Phillip Lindsey?
White in both.
White in both.
Non-PPR, I take Lindsey.
James White or Sonny Michel?
Michel in non-PPR.
White in PPR.
And I'm back-to-back in PPR.
I'm going white in both.
The bottom line is you're starting the New England running backs.
Okay, so who are better flexes, the New England running backs or New England wide receivers?
Running backs.
Both running backs.
What do we do with Josh Gordon and Edelman?
I'm leaving them on my bench.
You start Edelman this week and take a wait and see approach with Gordon still.
You don't have to start Edelman in non-PPR, right?
I would.
Would you start Tyler Boyd or Julian Edelman?
Boyd in both.
Calvin Ridley or Edelman?
Ridley in both.
Ridley, yep.
Let's do some running backs.
Julian Edelman or Jay Ajayi?
Edelman.
Ajayi in both.
Okay.
Keith's clearly going to be cautious here.
Dalvin Cook or Julian Edelman?
Edelman.
I'll do Cook.
Oh, okay.
In a very tough matchup for Cook.
It's just very good.
It's cool.
I get it.
Cool with Julian Edelman.
Taking your time.
Rob Gronkowski, if he plays, you start him.
If Gronkowski doesn't play, first of all, if Gronkowski doesn't play,
does that mean Gordon and Edelman become, for you, Heath,
much more attractive options?
It makes Gordon a slightly more attractive option.
For me, the big change if Gronk doesn't play is going to be with Edelman.
Okay.
I'll probably just end up flexing him instead of benching him.
Is there a Patriots tight end that we would stream?
No.
No.
Dwayne Allen is awful.
New England DST, fifth for Jamie.
Also, Dwayne Allen is going to score a touchdown now.
Especially if Gronk plays.
New England DST is fifth for Jamie, fifth for Dave, and tenth for Heath.
And they have been good at home.
So you can go ahead and start them.
All right, we got a lot of segments left.
We're going to have to cut some of them.
But one thing I can promise you, one thing we would never cut,
you know what it is.
The regulators.
Fantasy Regulators Roundup Part 1.
Part 1.
More later in the show at the two-hour mark.
This is from Connor.
One of the owners in our league is inactive and will not check his lineup
despite multiple reminders communicated with him to do so.
Thus, this inactive owner's lineup is filled with starters with injuries and bye weeks.
He started Rex Burkhead and Jordan Reed last week.
As a result, it's essentially a free win for whomever is playing against him.
To maintain the integrity of the league, I used commissioner powers to set his lineup for this week.
So he has nine active players.
However, the other players in my league said that was unfair and that it's his responsibility to check his own team.
What's the best way to solve this problem i'm gonna probably um be the outcast on this discussion but i agree with the other players
in your league i don't think it's fair that two or three teams have gotten a free win already and
now you're gonna start setting his lineup for him um i would berate the guy i'd probably end up
kicking him out of the league eventually you're gonna kick him out of the league you have to kick him out of the league yes i agree i agree but
like i've dealt with this before in my longest running league and the guy's still in the league
he pulled it together after uh one really really bad season we gave him another chance and he
actually uh made the championship game last year so i just i'm not setting somebody else's lineup
for them.
What if you set them just so they have active players but not necessarily
their best players?
No, I'm not.
All right.
Yeah, I think I kind of agree.
I do see your point where it's not fair that some owners would have a free win
and others wouldn't.
So threaten him, kick him out of the league,
find somebody midseason to replace him if you want to.
But yeah, I think we have to say, Connor, that you should not have done that, and you are a terrible commish.
And it has been regulated. You're not a terrible commish.
But listen to your league mates on this one.
I got some random fantasy questions for you that might help with a little buy low, sell high as well.
Is John brown a legit
breakout he has just 15 catches but he's averaging 25 point 22.5 yards per catch
john brown is 12th and non-ppr 21st and ppr is a legit breakout this year yes
here's here's my problem and why the Heath's side came.
I believe in John Brown's talent entirely.
It's a little concerning his target share in this offense.
And he's got 10, 9, and 7 targets in the last three games.
But that's also because they're running more plays.
They're running 75 plays a week almost.
I don't think that's very sustainable.
I would like it if Michael Crabtree could disappear and John Brown could be the number one guy on targets.
So I'll say kind of.
Okay.
I mean I think just by the letter of the law, him being 12th in non-PPR, 21st in PPR, you could consider selling John Brown.
But he's going to be startable, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Second random fantasy question.
Are we still worried about Kareem Hunt?
No.
This week's going to be really interesting.
I'm not as worried about Kareem Hunt.
I'm still worried about him being a top six running back.
I think this should be another situation where Jacksonville can get after Mahomes
and they can use Hunt to mitigate that.
As long as they're going to do that, then I'm not.
Hunt had three catches for 54 yards.
That was great.
I think he had one catch in his first three games.
So I hope they continue to use him there.
Next random fantasy question.
Do you realize Saquon Barkley, the number five running back in both formats, has faced four teams
and all of them are in the top 12
in fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs
and so are his next two opponents.
Although Carolina this week
allows 5.43 yards per
carry to running backs. Then he's got Philadelphia.
But I've been very impressed with
what Barkley's been able to do with the schedule
that he's had.
Any comments on that?
It's the same thing we said about Fournette last year, remember?
Absolutely.
I mean, I take the responsibility because I said it.
But at least I learned my lesson.
I did not hold Barkley's schedule against him this year.
Well, let's see where we're at in our bet.
I'm winning.
I checked this morning.
I have Melvin Gordon plus – he has to outscore Barkley by 10 in non-PPR.
Currently he is.
Now Barkley has been awesome, guys.
And there doesn't seem to be anything that would stop him, right?
You might see a little bit more in the passing game.
27 catches.
Not for him.
Not for him.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Right.
27 catches, but a lot of them came against Dallas.
Random fantasy question number four.
Are you still hopeful for Randall Cobb?
No. If he plays
this week and Allison doesn't,
then I'm going to start him.
I think there's a better chance of Allison playing than Cobb.
That's possible.
Random fantasy question number five.
Will Alshon Jeffrey be a stud this season?
Let's look at that schedule, guys.
Minnesota.
Well, I think that's a tough matchup.
If Xavier Rhodes sticks on him, it's a tough matchup.
If not, it probably isn't.
Did Xavier Rhodes stick on Devontae Adams in week one?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because I was looking at it, and I agree with you.
Minnesota has been one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL so far this year.
And number ones, they've basically faced two of them.
Because week one, they played the 49ers without Goodwin.
They didn't have a number one.
Week three, they played the Bills.
They don't have a number one.
But Devontae Adams and Brandon Cooks have had really good games against them.
Right.
But remember the narrative with Brandon Cooks.
He was actually getting shut down by Rhodes.
They took him off the play for one play,
and I think the next play was a 47-yard touchdown pass, 37 yards.
And then Rhodes got hurt late in the game.
I don't even know if he's 100% healthy.
And then Cooks got some more stats.
Well, I think he was just cramping.
He came back in the game.
Oh, okay, okay.
Then good.
That happened one time before to Rhodes that I remember specifically. Hopkins last year? more stats well i think he's just cramping he came back in the game okay okay um that happened
one time before to roads that i remember hopkins last year uh no i think it was two or three years
ago and it was on jeffrey in chicago came off the field jeffrey scored a touchdown the next play
oh and he was visibly upset on the sideline they've had some history between him and zimmer
in the past with this whole staying on one receiver and him not wanting to do it
because they get killed by other receivers when he does that.
So I don't
feel extremely confident that
he's going to be a shadow corner all year.
All right. Well, for Jeffrey,
back to the question, will
Ashland Jeffrey be a stud this season? Minnesota
at the Giants. George Jenkins playing pretty well.
Carolina, they've done well
against Julio Jones and A.J. Green.
A.J. Green was dealing with an injury in that game.
At Jacksonville and then a bye.
He'll also see Dallas, then Marshawn Lattimore, then Genovese Jenkins again.
So what do you think?
Will Alshon Jeffrey be a stud this season?
No.
No, but he'll be in the number three receiver discussion.
Yeah, somewhere between wide receiver 22 and 32 rest away.
How about Julian Edelman or Alshon Jeffrey?
Edelman and PPR.
Sure, just format dependent.
Okay, I mean, look, Wentz threw 50 passes, something like that.
Yeah, 50 passes last week, only nine to Alshon.
But you look at that team, who's going to catch
touchdowns?
It's got to be him and Ertz, right?
I don't know. Wentz only has a 3%
touchdown rate this year, so maybe they won't throw very many.
I guess.
Alright, and we can do some
grade the trade.
That was sarcasm, by the way. Wentz is going to throw
more touchdown passes. Let's do a quick round
of emails from Angel.
Are the Vikings still a must-start defense?
No.
No.
Can you drop them?
Stream?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
From Brandon, I am the GEO owner. Should I hold on to Jordan Howard or try to trade Howard for Joe Mixon?
Trade Howard for Joe Mixon.
Yeah, I'd feel safer doing that.
From, I don't safe for doing that. From,
I don't have a name here, who's a better stash
this week, rest of season? Taylor Gabriel
or Chris Godwin?
Godwin.
That's a good question.
Godwin.
I think Gabriel will be better than
Godwin until Miller gets fully
acclimated in the offense
But I think Godwin has a lot more upside
You just saw the squirrel run by
You got excited
What's happening to the squirrel?
Squirrel
Oh, a squirrel
From Nick
Half PPR
Second flex spot
Bilal Power or Naeem Hines?
Hines
Hines
Okay, I'm good with that.
Let's do some regulating.
And then we will finish with Team Name Tuesday.
So stick around for Team Name Tuesday.
This is from Patrick.
Dear some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Keith.
L-M-A-O.
I think it's funny.
I always enjoy it.
I am in desperate need of fantasy regulators.
Last night I proposed a trade to the Le'Veon Bell owner.
I offered up Austin Eckler and John Brown for Le'Veon Bell.
The owner accepted the trade, and now tonight there are reports that Bell is going to come back during the bye week.
Okay, this email was obviously written a few days ago.
So before that report, the Le'Veon Bell owner gave him up for Eckler and John Brown.
Then he saw the report.
Our league put things up for a vote, and it seems like every year I'm the only one that gets voted down when I make trades that seem too good to be true.
I know this is just luck that he's coming back right after the trade was accepted, but the league may turn down this vote.
Please help.
There's no way they should make that trade
nullified. Of course not. Let it go
through. I don't care what happens after the
trade is made. Let it go through.
Come on, people. You're
better than that. Kick them out of the league.
Trade vetoes are terrible. You should quit
the league because they have vetoes, but
this is kind of the purpose of trade vetoes.
No, this is not the purpose. How kind of the purpose of trade vetoes. No, this is not the purpose.
How is this the purpose of trade vetoes?
It's not a terrible trade now that we know that
Bell's back? Yeah, but at the time that they accepted the trade,
we didn't know Bell was back.
The purpose of trade vetoes is to get rid of
collusion. The purpose of trade vetoes is to
make fantasy football less fun.
Let's regulate. Kieran from the
second biggest city in England.
I have no idea.
Manchester, maybe?
London.
That's got to be the biggest, no?
All right, London.
London, too.
Hey, Roger, Pierce, Sean, and Daniel.
Those 007s?
Those are.
I'm the commissioner to 12-team league.
This year
we had a trade in week three.
David Johnson for Jack Doyle
and Deshaun Jackson.
It is standard 12 teams.
It's in its fourth year with longtime friends.
David Johnson for Jack Doyle and Deshaun Jackson.
Pretty lopsided trade.
But in week three, I guess I could see it.
I have no purpose telling people what's a
good trade or not a good trade. However, the person who
traded away David Johnson has had an invalid
lineup for four weeks straight.
A lot of people are now asking for him to politely
not to be asked to play next year. But
this is someone who recently invited
me to his summer wedding, and I don't want to ruin
any friendships.
So, Heath, what do you do here? I know you want to kick him
out of the league, but our boy Kieran doesn't want to ruin any friendships. Yeah, I, what do you do here? I know you want to kick him out of the league, but our
boy Kieran doesn't want to ruin any friendships.
Yeah, I think it's fine to choose
friendship over having a good fantasy league.
Just recognize that you're going to a bad league.
So, what I would probably do first
is find a
replacement option, somebody that wants to do it, but
tell them that it's sort of contingent on somebody
leaving the league, and then see if
your friend even brings it up and asks about playing again because he just may not have any interest.
I have absolutely kicked people out of leagues before, and they just never mentioned it or noticed that I kicked them out of the league.
Well, then they deserve to be kicked out.
I like Jamie's idea, Kieran.
I think you can get rid of him in the league.
Just be gentle about it.
I don't know that you're going to ruin any friendships.
All you've got to do to say to him is, listen, you weren't very active in the league.
The rest of the league would like to find somebody who's more competitive.
If you guarantee you're going to be more competitive, we'll give you another shot.
But for a sign of that not happening, you're done.
And confession on the 007 thing.
I don't think I've ever watched a 007 movie all the way through.
Oh, my God.
Honestly, I haven't watched any of the older ones.
But the first one I saw was the first Daniel Craig movie, my God. You know, honestly, I haven't watched any of the older ones, but the first one I saw
was the first
Daniel Craig movie,
and it's amazing.
Which one was that?
Casino Royale?
I think so.
I loved the Roger Moore ones
when I was a kid.
Oh, really?
I never did.
Would you think
you'd like them now?
Hopefully.
Because I watched
Goldeneye
after I saw
Casino Royale
with Pierce Brosnan,
and Pierce Brosnan is pretty cheesy.
Now I spent about three years of my life playing.
Oh, the best.
The best multiplayer game of all time.
Hands down.
John in Brazil wants us to regulate.
He says, Dear Michael, Dwight, Jim, and Andy, that's the office.
Just like in every fantasy football league, we had some dude say how much he wanted to play in the league.
Once the season starts, he had an auto-draft team and has not logged in once.
The commissioner set his lineup for him week one, and it has not changed since.
Normally, I would just say, set his lineup to best players this week, but this guy has Joe Mixon, Antonio Brown, Deshaun Watson, Jordan Howard, Alshon Jeffrey,
and Will Fuller, who are all excellent by-low candidates in my honest opinion.
This is beyond frustrating and just a waste of a spot, so I have two questions.
Is there any way – and I'm going to address the first one
because we've already done two emails with inactive owners.
Is there any way we can distribute his players and cut his team midseason?
No.
No.
Find a replacement.
You can find a replacement for that team.
What if you did like a fab, like an auction for his players?
No, because now the schedule's already been set.
I guess that's true.
All right, fine.
You can't do it.
Yeah, but Heath's point is right.
See if somebody who's a friend of yours that's a fantasy enthusiast
will buy into his team
and talk it over with the rest of the league that he's buying
into the lesser price, but he's also getting a lesser
prize back if he wins.
Just see if he'll do it. Okay.
That's the Fantasy Regulators
Part 2. And we're going to
end with something that needs its own music
but doesn't have it. Team Name Tuesday.
Just want to hear this groove one more time.
You know what the sound should be?
Don't say gotta go bye, please. No more time. You know what the sound should be? Don't say gotta go bye, please.
No, no, you know what the sound should be?
No, Jamie, listen, you're going to like these team names.
No, no, but you know what the sound should be, though.
Shut up, I know what you're going to say.
No, you don't know what I'm going to say.
What are you going to say?
Just listen.
Here's what the sound should be.
Listen.
Okay, I get it, I get it.
Jabril Peppers needs new shorts.
That's dodgeball reference
Pretty funny
This is one of my favorites
Ingram toenails
Ingram toenails
Do you think people enjoy more that we don't comment
Or that you just always say that it's funny
I wish people could see your face when you say it
Because you lean into the camera and you go
Ingram toenails
Michelle my belle
It's a Beatles song It's very good Like lean into the camera and you go, Ingram toenails? Michelle, my bell?
It's a Beatles song.
It's a Beatles song.
It's very good.
This one was from Mike in a suburb southwest of Chicago.
Mike said, I haven't seen any good team names recently, but I did see a list of clever Wi-Fi network names, and I thought I'd share some of them with you.
Bill Y, the science fi.
WinterNet is coming.
It hurts when IP. Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z, IP, like IP. It hurts when IP
Hurts
H-E-R-T-Z
IP
Like IP
It hurts when IP
Wu-Tang Land
Girls Gone Wireless
It's amazing that you just did that
But you'll cut us off
When we're having a good fantasy football discussion
Rollin' with my homies
Or should I say
Rollin' with my homies
I like that one.
This one's clueless.
Roethlisberger and girly fries.
You as a host.
Roethlisberger and girly fries.
Roethlisberger and girly fries.
And too kiddle, too late.
As in this segment.
Too little, too late.
That's it.
We're done.
Thank you for listening, everybody.
Wait, wait, wait.
I got one more name for you.
What's that?
Just one more name.
Wait, there's got to be a team name that parodies.
It's got to go by.
Yeah, it's called.
It's got to go by.
It's got to go by.
That's Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings.
I'm Adam Azer.
Starters in for the AFC home games on Thursday's show.
We'll talk to you tomorrow.