Fantasy Football Today - 10/04 Fantasy Football Podcast: Trades, RB Thoughts, NE-TB

Episode Date: October 4, 2017

A lot to get to on today's show as we begin with our favorite buy low (2:30) and sell high (5:00) candidates. Now is the time to get Jay Ajayi! Should you try to trade Deshaun Watson or is the best ye...t to come? ... Talking DAL backup RBs (8:20), the Most Added RBs (14:40) after last night's waiver claims and even some IDP adds (23:45)! Is Aaron Jones going to be a waste of FAAB money? Is Thomas Rawls still underowned at 58%? How many of the Waiver Wire RBs are worth starting this week? ... Previewing NE-TB (26:00) before our trade talk. We've got plenty of buy low guys to consider like Mark Ingram (45:55) and Jimmy Graham (47:30) and then we wonder if Fantasy owners should sell Lamar Miller (52:00), Stefon Diggs (59:30) and many more ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! We put the R&B in our BBC. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Ian. All right, everybody. Welcome to the Wednesday Show.
Starting point is 00:00:21 We're going to look at the most added list. Running backs galore all over that most added list. And guess what I forgot to do yesterday? I forgot to talk about IDP. So let's give some IDP today. What's up, Jamie and Heath? What's up, Adam and Adam? IDP? Is that not what it is? No, it's correct.
Starting point is 00:00:45 It was just weird to hear those words come out of your mouth. Let me tell you what my beef is with IDP. I thought about this. You're not penalized at all for poor play. You could start a cornerback. He could get abused by a wide receiver the entire game, break up a pass, make some tackles. You don't get any negative points.
Starting point is 00:01:05 It's not a very good scoring system. Well, if a guy has a bad game and you don't get points, it's the same as if an offensive player has a bad game and doesn't get points. Not really, because you're not really judging the defensive player accurately. You're only judging him by the plays he makes, but really it's the plays he doesn't make that could be so much more impactful. So do you get negative fantasy points in your regular scoring leagues if a guy drops a pass? No, but you get negative points for turnovers.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Sure, but the defensive guys don't score as much as the offensive guys typically. Yeah, IDPs, okay, whatever. We'll give you some IDPs. Welcome, everybody. Okay, hey, FanDuel. Start playing on FanDuel, okay? There are awesome contests all the time. You can start for $1.
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Starting point is 00:02:06 We will. We'll do a lot of trade talk today. We'll preview the Thursday night game. But, you know, just because yesterday was the epic waiver wire day, we will, of course, look at the most added list and rehash those running backs because maybe Aaron Jones doesn't get that much playing time this week. Maybe Ty Montgomery and Jamal Williams actually play. We'll see what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But who's your favorite buy low right now and who's your favorite sell high right now, guys? Give me a buy low to start with. Your favorite. My favorite is, and you have a couple days to do it, is JHI. Because you probably have a lot of angry JHI owners.
Starting point is 00:02:43 One of those polls that I posted Monday, Adam, was who's the biggest buzz so far? And this was based on a question that I asked on Twitter. So I used the three most popular suggestions were Amari Cooper, Jay Ajayi, and Terrell Pryor. And Ajayi was second of the 7,000-plus votes with 18%. Cooper was the biggest one. But I think it sets up for him to have a big, big day against the Titans this week.
Starting point is 00:03:08 As of now, and these numbers are going to change. We only have four games. But as of now, these are the opponent ranks for Jay Ajayi in terms of fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs. 23rd,
Starting point is 00:03:24 26th, 29th, 27th. As in they give up the 23rd most, the 26th most, the 29th most. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no. I said that backwards. Sorry. This is what he has or what he has coming up? What he has coming up.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Anyway, he has four good matchups coming up. Tennessee, Atlanta, the Jets, and the Ravens. In terms of fantasy points allowed to running backs, they rank 23rd, 26th, 29th, and 27th out of 32 teams. And you know I like the story as much as the situation. Week 5 last year, home game against the Titans, his first start. That started the stretch of his great games. And I think the same thing happens again this year.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Okay, JGI. Heath, how about you? You got a favorite buy low? I've got a few of them, but I will say one that I think is almost free right now that I'm starting to realize I've got ranked a little too low for this week, and that's Deshaun Jackson. Yeah, that's a good call. I think you need to do that in the next day and a half.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But we knew Deshaun Jackson. We have this conversation in baseball sometimes adam when we know somebody is really streaky and then they go through a bad streak for three weeks and everybody's like oh no he's terrible and we're like no we told you he was streaky we knew deshaun jackson was going to be up and down he'll be up this week yeah yeah well the patriots allow the third most pass plays of 20 or more yards and the second most of 40 or more yards, something like that. They allow the most fantasy points to basically every position.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I mean, they're awful. So, yeah, I'll be starting Deshaun Jackson. I guess the question is, you know, is he going to be – he's just going to be streaky. Rest of season, right? Of course he is. It's not really a question. That's kind of his career. Yeah. Okay, so one great game for question. That's kind of his career. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Okay, so one great game for Deshaun, two bad games so far. It's about to be two and two. Favorite sell-high candidates, guys? Aaron Jones. No, look, Heath, you have the answer to this. You did it yesterday. I couldn't believe the king's ransom you pulled off trading Deshaun Watson.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Unbelievable. To be clear, this was one of three offers that I received for Deshaun Watson. You traded him yesterday? I traded Deshaun Watson. Which league? FFT. I was so mad. I was so mad.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I traded Deshaun Watson for Matt Ryan and Bilal Pal. FFT. I was so mad. I was so mad. I traded Deshaun Watson. As the commissioner, I should see the notification. You probably missed it. For Matt Ryan and Bilal Powell. Straight up. Well, Deshaun Watson for Matt Ryan and Bilal Powell, yes. But two for one. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Who made that trade with you? Our good friend, the biggest Deshaun Watson fan I know, George Maselli. Wow. I mean, you got Matt Ryan for him. And a running back that's going to start for a few weeks. Right, right. And a plug-in running back. That's stealing.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. I did not make the offer. I just clicked accept. Good for you. Yeah, I've been offered another package that included Martavis Bryant. But it's a team where I have, like, Garcon and Deshaun Jackson, and I'm like, how am I ever going to know which of those guys is true? So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Deshaun Watson's a good sell high. And it makes me feel like Matt Ryan, now that we know Julio Jones not expected to miss time, you've got to be a little worried about Julio Jones. He entered the season a little banged up, and he's banged up now. But I still think Matt Ryan's a buy-low candidate. I feel like there's better production coming. Well, it seems like he is a buy-low candidate, yes, based on that trade.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But listen, I didn't expect Matt Ryan to be as good as he was last year. I didn't expect him to be this bad either. So he'll be in somewhere in the middle. Okay, Jamie, you have a favorite sell high? It's two guys that we've talked about a lot, so I kind of link them together just based on their injury track record. It's Carlos hyde and cj anderson i mean hyde's already dealing with an injury anderson you know we i don't know if they're going to start to give davante booker work coming off their bye week but they might and jamal charles has looked very good the last
Starting point is 00:07:17 two games so if you know you you this is the week to sell anderson if you don't need him because you're not going to play him this week, and he's not hurt yet. So it's almost like sell the guy in bubble wrap and see if you can get something great for it, like to the Dobbin Cook owner that may have not gotten anybody good off waivers or somebody that's just in dire need of a running back. And Hyde did say he was playing through a hip injury last week. And Jamie's right. I mean, we know the track record. So that means to me, I saw Matt Breida dropped in a few leagues,
Starting point is 00:07:51 and I don't necessarily have room for him. I mean, it's easier said than done to stash somebody. But if you do have room for Matt Breida, Jamie, is that a good idea to be stashing him? Absolutely. You know, deeper leagues for sure. I had to do that myself. I had to drop Brita for a couple of players just, you know, out of circumstance. But, yeah, if you could still carry, you know, he's a potential lottery ticket. So it's in your best interest. If you can't afford to carry guys like that, you do so. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Speaking of which, tweet of the day comes from AC Sanchez. If we want to prepare for a possible Zeke suspension, who do we pick up as the handcuff, Morris or McFadden? I picked up Alfred Morris in two leagues where I had Elliott, so I think he's the – it could be either one of them, but I think Morris is the most likely. Morris looks like the guy. I mean, I would imagine it's going to be both. But I picked up Morris in one league just to see what happens. Yeah, at like 2 in the morning. Yeah, because I didn't get any guys that I wanted, so he was the best one sitting there. Go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:08:58 What's with you? What are you talking about? Last night was the perfect situation for you to where the game went on until after waivers had run. You could have just done it all after the game. So I actually went to the game last night. Right. And I got home. I went to the Yankees game.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It was so fun. Oh, the best time. You can probably hear it in my voice. I barely even cheered because I said I can't lose my voice. It was amazing. But I got home at about 1.30 or something, got out of the shower and was online at like 1.50. And Jamie's like, what are you doing? Go to sleep, Jamie. How do you function? You don't even drink coffee. I slept from 2.30 to 5.30, got up and worked some more.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Wow. Amazing. Amazing. Good for you. Yeah, but Jamie was up, made some post-waivers ad drops. Good stuff. It's one of my favorite things to do Tuesdays. Yeah, one of my favorite things to do is sleep at that hour. But good for you. It's an advantage. All right, so we'll do more ads and drops. Most added, we'll do more trade stuff a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And there's your skinny on the Cowboys running back. Your news and notes. Ty Montgomery, Jamal Williams, Devontae Adams, they all have a chance to play this week at Dallas. Do we know anything right now as of Wednesday morning? Anything definitive? No. I think they're all saying I'm preparing like I'm going to play.
Starting point is 00:10:24 That does not mean they're all going to play. Do you think Aaron Jones is going to be a big waste of fab slash waiver priority? No. I'm not ready to say no. I don't think it was a bad move still. Even if it turns out to be that way, I don't think it was a big waste because that's what you're doing with Fab is taking shots.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I wonder if Jones did enough to move ahead of Jamal Williams if they're both healthy. That might be. Yeah, I mean, I hope so. At the very least, I mean, it actually might be worse than that. At the very least,
Starting point is 00:11:04 he might have moved into a timeshare if they're both healthy, which would be not what we want. We want a clear handcuff and a clear backup. Okay, we'll see what happens with the Packers there at Dallas this week. Dante Moncrief is owned in 60% of leagues. It's always good to ask the two of you about Dante Moncrief. Couldn't have more differing opinions. He's owned in 60% of leagues.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Is it time to add Dante Moncrief? Deeper league. Yeah, I just finished up my stash rankings for week five, and Dante Moncrief did move up a little bit in those. So I think he's a worthwhile guy
Starting point is 00:11:39 to have on your bench. I still wouldn't feel comfortable starting him, even though he had the touchdown this past week, until luck is back. Yeah, that's what I was going for. Listen, I've only ever disliked Damon Kreef because of what his cost was. Now his cost is free, so I don't dislike him at all. Okay. He's 60%
Starting point is 00:11:56 owned, as I mentioned. Left tackle Teron Armstead for the Saints should be back after this week's bye, but they lost their right tackle Zach Streif for at least eight weeks. I've actually been kind of amazed. It's like a lot of people, a lot of players are really affected by offensive lines, by poor offensive lines.
Starting point is 00:12:12 When Drew Brees has had injuries on the offensive line, it really just doesn't slow him down. He's just incredible. And Streif hasn't played that much this year, so it's, you know, I don't think it's a huge concern. It stinks, but breeze is breeze. Rob Kelly's day-to-day. Josh Norman could miss one to four weeks with injured ribs.
Starting point is 00:12:30 He might play after this week's bye. Josh Doxson has a strained shoulder. Tennessee signed quarterback Brandon Whedon, not necessarily a great sign for Marcus Mariota as they prepare for Miami this week. So Miami DST, if Mariota's out, would you want to pick up the Dolphins DST? Deeper leagues. I mean, look, their offense has been awful, but their defense hasn't given up a lot of points the last two games.
Starting point is 00:12:55 No, their defensive line, front seven, has been outstanding. Yeah. Okay. And would you rather have the Jets or the Dolphins, assuming Mariota doesn't play? J-E-T-S. Okay. Jamie, do you want to spell a team? I thought you were going to say Jets, Jets, Jets, Adam.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh, me? I'm sorry. Somebody did that stupid chant at the baseball game last night, and we were like, dude, what are you doing? Like, no. No. They're 2-2. They're not good. It's the Yankees playoff game.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Stop it. I was surprised that you could hear that all over every shriek after a fly ball. It's the worst. Was that what was happening? Every single fly ball that was hit by the Yankees. But that's every baseball game everywhere. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You know what? I'm not going to talk anymore. I had such a great time. I'm so happy that I went. I'm so happy. I love sports. It's good for sports. Are you going to keep going?
Starting point is 00:13:49 I don't think I can afford it. So I'm going to pick and choose. And if they advance to the ALCS, I'll try to go to a game. But I don't know. It's expensive. It's expensive. But I was lucky enough to get face value tickets for this one. I don't know. It's expensive. It's expensive. But I was lucky enough to get face value tickets for this one. I don't think that's going to happen again.
Starting point is 00:14:10 All right, so most added running backs. After I tell you if you want to watch more football, you can do it on your laptop. You can do it on your phone. You can do it on any device with CBS All Access. Start your free trial right now, cbs.com slash NFL. We're always trying to watch more games. Okay, maybe you got Red Zone on. Maybe you got another channel on the TV. You want to watch. I do it every week now. I watch on my laptop. I watch the local CBS games. Your local
Starting point is 00:14:35 CBS games are on CBS All Access. The URL is CBS.com slash NFL. Not CBS Sports, but CBS.com slash NFL. So most added does but CBS.com slash NFL. So most added does not mean most owned. It means biggest change in ownership percentage. And here are your most added running backs after waivers ran last night. Latavius Murray, he is 73% owned. Aaron Jones, 46% owned. Wayne Gallman, up to 26% owned.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Alvin Kamara, 76% owned. He's the most owned of this group. And Alex Collins is five. We'll do some more. But your top five are Latavius, who's at Chicago. They've actually been pretty good against running backs. They give up touchdowns, but their run defense has been solid, 3.6 yards per carry. Aaron Jones at Dallas, not so good against running backs.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Wayne Gallman against the Chargers. Heath always talks about how many tackles the Chargers miss. Alvin Kamara on a bye. And Alex Collins at Oakland. They've actually been better defensively than I think people anticipated. So what's your reaction, Jamie, to this top five of Latavius, Aaron Jones, Gallman, Kamara, Collins? Well, I think you look at the two guys at the top and Murray just, as we talked about yesterday, his opportunity is the best on the table.
Starting point is 00:16:02 The player may not necessarily be the best going into it. So he was worth picking up. I had a couple situations where I don't think I got Latavius Murray in any leagues last night. And there are, I think, I'll say maybe five leagues that I'm one in three. There's one where I'm 0-4. But four others I think that I'm one in three. And so if I don't win now, I'm done. So I looked at Aaron Jones' situation being better than Latavius Murray's situation this week. So I have a lot
Starting point is 00:16:30 of Aaron Jones. I don't have a lot of Latavius Murray. But I think when you look at those two guys, as well as Goldman and Collins, you're hoping for guys that can be potential starters for you with Kamara when he's back off his bye week being the same thing. Okay. And do you have, how many of Latavius, Aaron Jones, Gallman, Alex Collins, do you have in your top 24 this week, guys? I believe that number is zero for me. No, I may, I had Aaron Jones there. It will be zero if Montgomery or Williams play. I have, I think, all four of them. I think they're all in good situations this week. Murray against the Bears should score.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Jones should have a monster day against the Cowboys if he's the guy. Yes. Gallman and Collins, I think, are set up to get a lot of work. That's the one I'm questioning, and I've tried to look on Twitter. I can't find anything about what the Giants' opinion about who their starting running back is. Oh, I did see a story. I know who I think it should be. I did see a headline from – I mean, I don't want to – let me see if I can find it. It said something like, Wayne Gallman may have just gotten the Giants' starting running back job, but it is speculation at this point.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Right. If you told me Wayne Gallman is starting at running back for the Giants, then he would certainly be up there. Yeah. All right, I got the article now. I'll take a quick scan and see if we can find anything. Yeah, that's the one. I don't really want to trust it. And then Collins, I did read that they might be conservative with his carries
Starting point is 00:18:03 just because of the fumbles. How many carries are you expecting this week from Alex Collins? I think this is going to be 10-15 He's been at 9, that's not saying it's a huge stretch But this is going to be the first time since he's got an opportunity to play Where they have a chance to win Who, the Giants?
Starting point is 00:18:18 Or the Ravens, excuse me Reading this article, got confused Alright, we'll come back to that Let's go to the next 5 Eddie Lacy is now 37% owned. Andre Ellington is 59% owned. He's got a tough matchup this week. Jarek McKinnon, 12% owned.
Starting point is 00:18:38 We haven't really talked about him. Elijah McGuire, 17% owned. And Giovanni Bernard, 41% owned now. Eddie Lacy at the Rams, Andre Ellington at Philadelphia, Jarek McKinnon at Chicago, Elijah McGuire at Cleveland, Giovanni Bernard against Buffalo. Heath, your thoughts on that group of five? I've added Lacy in a couple spots, especially where I already had roles, just because I don't feel confident at all that we know who's going to be the feature back, if there even will be one in Seattle, but I'd like to have both of those guys.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I like Ellington the most out of this group. Bernard is so weird because I think he's really good. I think he should get a larger percentage of the touches than he does, but they're not kicking Jeremy Hill out of the rotation. Giovanni Bernard is getting the third most touches, even if he is being the most productive with them. Well, let me ask you about the Seahawks, guys. Lacey's 37% owned.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Thomas Rawls is 58% owned. How do you feel about that? I think they're both under-owned. Yeah, but I think it's one of those things where people are just, I don't know if I want these guys type of thing. Right. Yeah. I still feel like Thomas Rawls can be a good running back.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And the Rams, I still feel like the Rams could have a good run defense. I don't know what's going on, but their run defense has been atrocious. They gave up the most fantasy points to running backs. And that's with Aaron Donald only missing one game. And I could understand coming back and being rusty for a game, but still? I don't know. I guess they did a decent job against Zeke. He scored a couple of touchdowns, but averaged about four yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah, I mean, who do you like better this week, guys? Rawls or Wayne Gallman? I read this article. It's all speculation, guys, Rawls or Wayne Gallman? I read this article. It's all speculation. We don't know anything. Gallman. I've got them both as low-end number three running backs.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Do you think Elijah McGuire gets more than the 10 carries he got last week? No. Potentially, but not by much. Okay. Other guys in the most added list, Wendell Smallwood is up to 73%. Feels actually kind of – I'm surprised. It's a little lower than I thought. Maybe because – no. Tough matchup, I guess, against Arizona.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But Smallwood's 73%. Should he be closer to 90%? Yes. I think it's good that he got that touchdown Because we thought Blunt was going to get all those But he was still much less effective on the ground than Blunt was No, but I think it's his work in the passing game Because that's where he's going to have the chance to win Most situations
Starting point is 00:21:15 And the thing about that touchdown I'm pretty sure Blunt got a couple of chances Inside the five Or even inside the two Couldn't get in, they finally gave it to Smallwood And yeah, I remember that Because on the same team I had Wentz and Blunt inside the five or even inside the two. Couldn't get in. They finally gave it to Smallwood. Yeah, I remember that because on the same team I had Wentz and Blunt. And I was like, okay, this is probably going to work out well.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Of course, Smallwood gets a touchdown. Very frustrating. And then CJ Procise is now 29% owned. Does CJ Procise have a role for the Seahawks? Or no? You tell me, CJ Procise. I think they all do. for the Seahawks, you know, or now? You tell me, CJ Proseis. I think they all do. I think you're going to see, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:52 maybe McKissick is probably going to end up being the odd man out based on, you know, him being in a need situation more than they may have wanted, but he certainly proved himself that he can handle it. I would assume, just from an outside perspective, that they would like Proseis to go back to the role that he had before getting hurt, which is playing on passing downs. It's just whether he can stay healthy. And then maybe having a role in carrying the ball.
Starting point is 00:22:14 It's going to be a hot-hand approach. In Seattle? Okay. Yeah, and let's give Lacey credit. He played pretty well on Sunday against the Colts. So I think it's going to be interesting. Do you start Deshaun Jackson this week or do you start some of these running backs?
Starting point is 00:22:30 How many of these running backs would you start over Deshaun Jackson? Jones and Murray. But can you really do that with Jones if we don't know the status of Montgomery by Thursday night? Yeah, I'd say probably then no. I'm probably going to say none. And how about –
Starting point is 00:22:45 Jackson certainly has the highest ceiling of him versus any of these running backs. How about – But his floor may not be as good as Murray or Jones. Danny Amendola. Would you go Latavius Murray or Danny Amendola this week? Latavius. PPR, I'd go Amendola. Would you go Wayne Gallman or Danny Amendola this week?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Amendola. Amendola. Yeah. It's funny with Gallman. I picked him up in our podcast league. I think Latavius went for – he might have been owned actually. One of the guys went for over 30. I got Gallman for like 12.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And I don't trust him this week because you want to see what's going to happen And then the next two games are Seattle and Denver And then a bye, I think So it's almost like, what the hell was the point? But that's a 14-team league Any guy who has a chance to get touchdowns Or double-digit carries Has to be owned
Starting point is 00:23:40 So we'll see It's risky But he certainly, of all the running backs Who have done anything on the Giants this year, Gallman has certainly looked the best. IDP most added. Jacksonville linebacker Miles Jack is the most added IDP individual defensive player this week. He scored a touchdown last week.
Starting point is 00:23:56 He's the number five linebacker in fantasy. And even without the touchdown, he's playing well. But Kansas City defensive back Terrence Mitchell is 21% owned. He has the fourth most tackles at the position. There are two guys that are somewhat available. Mitchell, very available. 21% owned Terrence Mitchell for the Chiefs. Tyvon Branch for Arizona. He has the most tackles at the position, six more than any other defensive back. 32 tackles this year, and he's 61% owned. Kansas City linebacker Justin Houston's playing great.
Starting point is 00:24:26 He's 65% owned. And then some deeper leagues, you know, Buffalo's rookie first-round pick, cornerback Trey Davias, White. Maybe this is one of the big reasons why their defense has been good because they traded away. They got rid of two cornerbacks, but White stepped in. He's had two huge games in a row. He had an interception, a fumble recovery, a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He had four pass breakups against Denver. Maybe he's a very good player, Tredavious White. Look at him for Buffalo. And Frank Clark could get a lot more playing time now for the Seahawks with Cliff Averill injured. And Matt Milano is likely going to replace Ramon Humber at linebacker for the Bills. So that's Tredavious White, Frank Clark, and Matt Milano is likely going to replace Ramon Humber at linebacker for the Bills. So that's Tredavious White, Frank Clark, and Matt Milano.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And I'm not going to sit here and pretend to be an IDP expert. Do you guys want to weigh in on anything? I like the opportunity for Miles Jack. The one thing I try to be careful with, and a couple of things you said, is when guys get a pick six, and they jump to the top of the fantasy point score at their position, and everybody adds them. That's like the least predictable thing in fantasy sports
Starting point is 00:25:32 for the guys that are getting tackles. I mean, I just know I picked up Jack in our IDP League after week one because he had a huge week, and with his pedigree, you'd expect him to be very good. Tyvon Branch has been very good over the course of the season. He's another guy I picked up a few weeks ago. And much better have Branch than Mitchell, yes. Yeah, I think one thing with the Bills defense is Humber's injury could be tough for them.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Because he's been playing great. Yeah, it could be. All right, well, there's your IDP, everybody. How about we talk about the Patriots and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? And so far, these are the two worst pass defenses in the NFL. But I don't know. I really got so much heat for the windfall last week slash bonanza. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm, like, getting scared to do it now. I'm not going to use this game anyway. I wouldn't do that on Thursday night. But we could have a lot of points, that's for sure. And we love Tom Brady, so let's go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Jameis Winston. Jameis Winston is top six. He's fourth for Jamie,
Starting point is 00:26:36 he's sixth for Dave, he's fifth for Heath. I don't know if I even need to give out the numbers, but the Patriots give out the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Are there any concerns about Jameis Winston, or is he just an automatic? I have no concerns at all about Jameis Winston this week. All right. Who are some quarterbacks you'd start Jameis over?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Most of all of them, almost. Like Stafford, Rivers, Ben. Cam. Cam. Okay. Cam. Okay. Watson. Alex Smith. I want to give out a stat.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Joe Flacco. And I want to see what happens. I don't know if this is the game that this even matters, but he scored 22 fantasy points per game last year and six points for passing touchdown leagues without Doug Martin and 16.7 points per game with Doug Martin. 5.3 fewer, almost a touchdown fewer per game. The biggest difference for some reason, he just threw a lot more interceptions
Starting point is 00:27:32 in the 10 games with Martin compared to the six without him. Ten more picks. But I don't know if that matters, but they did run the ball. I think he threw the ball a little bit less with Doug Martin healthy. We'll see. So that brings us to the Tampa Bay running backs. And guess what? The Patriots allowed the second most fantasy points to opposing running backs.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Very deceiving stat. Most of it is Kareem Hunt. No other running back has scored double-digit fantasy points against the Patriots, although they do have a pretty solid yards per carry, those running backs that didn't. But Kareem Hunt had 39 fantasy points. So that is destroying the Patriots' rank against running backs. Tell me how you're approaching the Bucs' backs this week. I don't want to start either one of them personally. I've got them ranked as number threes with quiz just barely ahead of Doug Martin.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Martin doesn't sound like he thinks he's ready for a full workload yet. Yeah. I would still take Martin over Rodgers, but they're back-to-back for me too. So Latavius Murray over Jacquez? Oh, yeah. Yep. And the Aaron Jones thing is going to be – I mean, if Jones were the guy, it would be such an easy call.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Hopefully we'll know more tomorrow. I understand it's going to be difficult. Would you start Joe Mixon or Jacquez Rodgers? Mixon easily. Mixon. How many New England difficult. Would you start Joe Mixon or Jacquez Rogers? Mixon easily. Mixon. How many New England running backs would you start over Quiz? Two. Two.
Starting point is 00:28:53 White and Gillisley. Yep. Back to that in a moment. Burkhead may not play again. Back to that in a moment. Mike Evans is a must start. Sean Jackson I think we talked about. But would you rather start Deshaun Jackson
Starting point is 00:29:06 or James White? Jackson. Jackson. Would you rather start Deshaun Jackson or Alshon Jeffrey who's facing probably a decent amount
Starting point is 00:29:16 of Patrick Peterson? Jackson. I don't want any part of Alshon Jeffrey this week. Yeah. I think the more interesting discussion is Deshaun Jackson versus Chris Hogan.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I've got Hogan higher. Yeah, I would take Jackson because I think Hogan's got the tougher situation with those two outside corners. Interesting. Would you rather have Amendola or Deshaun Jackson? Jackson. Jackson. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Start Jackson this week. How about Adam Thielen or Deshaun Jackson? Thielen. Jackson. week. How about Adam Thielen or Deshaun Jackson? Thielen. Jackson. Okay. So Cameron Brait, must start? Yes. I don't have him as a must start.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Last week was encouraging, and I moved him up because of it, but he's averaging for like three and a half targets a game, four targets a game. That's not sustainable as a must-start tight end. How many tight ends are averaging seven or more targets a game? Not very many, but like Ben Watson is. I don't... Would you start Watson over Bray?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Because it is another good matchup. He's two games in a row with a touchdown. Maybe he gets more confidence. Maybe Jameis says, I've got to throw to Bray more. And this is a team that's given up three touchdowns in four games to tight ends, the Patriots. Watson's got a great matchup, too. The Raiders can't cover tight ends. I've got Watson one spot ahead of Bray, so yes.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, I would take Bray here. I think Jameis' track record with his tight ends in this matchup suggests that he will give him enough opportunities. I mean, this is a red zone tight end offense, and so Brait has the chance for the higher ceiling this week. But we don't really want O.J. Howard, right? No, no. Okay. They had a great play design.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Yeah, yeah. Okay, are there any – let me just see. I'll pull up the tight end rankings. Any tight ends that people might be surprised that you would start Cameron Braid over? Well, I'd start him over Delaney Walker, given the quarterback situation there. I would start him over Martellus Bennett, who's been disappointing. Kyle Rudolph? I would start him over Kyle Rudolph, who's been disappointing.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Okay, cool. I think that's good. Start Tom Brady. Start Rob Gronkowski. And the Patriots wide receivers we'll touch on in a second. Now, I asked you how many Patriots running backs you'd start over Jacquez Rogers. You said both Gillislee and James White. But do you have any confidence in those guys?
Starting point is 00:31:38 The Buccaneers allow just 2.9 yards per carry. They've been a little vulnerable in the passing game, though. Two out of three games a running back has had 55 or more receiving yards against the Buccaneers. Tell me how you feel about the Patriots' running backs this week. I like Gilleslie more in standard,
Starting point is 00:31:55 White more in PPR. White's a flex in standard and a low end number two in PPR. I would agree. Gilleslie, you know what to expect. If he scores, you're good. If he doesn't score, you're getting about 40 or 50 yards. And if the game turns into what it could be, which is what we'd all like to see is a track meet,
Starting point is 00:32:14 then James White is going to have a game like he had last week where he's going to be eight to ten catches and probably does not score a touchdown, but heavily involved in the passing game. No interest in Deion Lewis? No. I mean, just because he scored last week. It's the Miles Jack phenomenon. Would you start Marshawn Lynch or a Patriots running back?
Starting point is 00:32:36 I would start Lynch. I think this is an opportunity with Brandon Williams being out for the Raiders to lean on Lynch. I would start Gillisley over Lynch in standard and both over Lynch in PPR. Would you start Christian McCaffrey or a Patriots running back?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Gillisley in standard and no in PPR. McCaffrey over both in PPR. Agreed. Let's see. Is there a wide receiver? Would you start Sterling Shepard or Mike Gillislee? I would start Gillislee and standard Shepard in PPR. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Okay. All right, that works for me. And then rank the Patriots' wide receivers. Cooks, Hogan, Amendola. Yes. Although it's very close in PPR between Hogan and Amendola for me. I imagine Fantasy Owners are not going to be getting away from
Starting point is 00:33:33 Chris Hogan. Amendola will be a trickier one. Amendola or John Brown? Amendola. Amendola or Calvin Benjamin? Benjamin. Benjamin Standard, Amendola PPR. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Okay. He's played three games, and he's gotten six catches in two of them. Who's that, Amendola? Yeah. Yeah. And those corners, I mean, the way that I think the Patriots attack this team is Gronk and Amendola the most, and James White, because those corners on the outside for Tampa Bay are very good.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Okay. But exactly what you said is what a lot of people are going to do, which makes the most sense. You're not going to bench Brandon Cooks or Chris Hogan. Yeah, especially Hogan. Hogan, I have a stat on him because we're going to talk about buy lows and sell highs. We're going to read your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. By the way, sit the DSTs in this game.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And, yeah, I think that wraps it up. That's our Thursday night preview. Who's going to win, Tampa Bay or New England? New England. New England. I would agree. Who's favored? I'm sure New England.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yes. Yeah. I'm going to guess it's two and a half. Do you know? No. You don't know the split? Five and a half. Five and a half?
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Starting point is 00:36:18 Then sell high Maybe some Rest of season rankings And maybe some Grade the trade But from the listeners This is from Jace Standard scoring league rest of season rankings and maybe some grade to trade. But from the listeners, this is from Jace. Standard scoring league, rest of season, Christian McCaffrey or Bilal Powell? McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yep. Have you given up hope that McCaffrey just becomes a total stud this year? Yep. No. Well, yeah, total stud, yes. Let's expand on that. Heath, you were pretty quick to say yes. You've given up hope on McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah, and I don't know that I had as much hope in the beginning, but he did some things in training, in camp, that certainly opened my eyes. It just seems like he gets swallowed up a lot of times. Defenses are definitely paying a lot of attention to him. And there's just not enough in that offense to take heat off of him otherwise. Could he be like Danny Woodhead good in PPR? And that's, at worst, number two start every week running back probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I mean we're basically almost ranking him like that still every week without the evidence. Right. Okay. All right, we're basically almost ranking them like that still every week without the evidence. Right. Okay. All right, question from Eric in Maryland. How do you feel about the Ravens' DST this week against Oakland? Interesting. Yeah. They're a borderline starter.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Okay. Lions or Ravens? Lions. Lions do a better job creating turnovers. Since Brandon Williams has gotten hurt for the Ravens, it hasn't looked good for him. Yeah, it has not. Listen, let's give the frigging Lions some credit here. I think they're still the number two DST in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I really think Cam's going to have a letdown game. I think Deshaun Watson's going to have a letdown game i i think deshaun watson's gonna have a letdown game the match well i mean yes he's gonna have a letdown game after what he's done but to what level okay i'm moving the i'm moving the lions up as we speak in my rankings to what i'm trying to decide i man i can't get him in my top 12. Well, I mean, they don't have a great matchup against the Panthers, so that's understandable.
Starting point is 00:38:32 But, uh, Jamie, you've got the Lions seventh. Yeah, I think they have a great matchup against the Panthers. They might. Okay, they might. They might. We'll see if... I mean, look, I don't want to say that Cam is back to being an MVP quarterback just because he beat up one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Yeah, the worst.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Okay, for now anyway. Question from me. Is Willie Sneed worth stashing? Yes. Yeah, he's borderline, but he's worth it. Question from me again. Is Corey Davis worth stashing? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yes, but depends on what you need. I had to drop him in one league, and I wasn't happy about it. Unlike last week where I said that I made a claim for somebody that Jamie dropped, I actually made the claim this time. And who's the best stash between Willie Sneed, Corey Davis, and Dante Moncrief? Sneed. I'll say Corey. Okay. This is from Dustin
Starting point is 00:39:27 Who's a better add in PPR? Paul Richardson or Juju Smith-Schuster? I'll take Smith-Schuster this week I'll take Richardson Really? Baldwin's healthy though? I mean Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:40 I mean they're both the number four option in their offense at best. What are the odds that Juju Smith-Schuster becomes better than Martavis Bryant? Because like I said on yesterday's show, he's played more snaps than Bryant, not many more, but more than Bryant two weeks in a row. I mean, it definitely could happen. Yeah. Okay, but not great odds. He's an interesting guy. He's still pretty available, very available, Juju Smith-Schuster for Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Jeremy Carl asks, I give DeAndre Hopkins. I get OBJ. Should I do it? Hopkins for Beckham. Yep, yep, yep. Yes. Okay. Nathan Widdock, should I trade Doug Martin for Watkins and Mixon?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Give up Doug Martin, get Watkins and Mixon. Hmm. I think I would. Tell me again, I'm sorry. You give up Doug Martin, you get Watkins and Mixon. Yes. Alright, these are two of, I think,
Starting point is 00:40:47 the most interesting players in fantasy right now. Two of these three. Doug Martin. What are your expectations for him? And Sammy Watkins. I know Sammy Watkins is a great player. I know it just takes one big play from him. He doesn't even need a lot of targets to be great.
Starting point is 00:41:02 But I also know that his schedule coming up, there's no way a wide receiver has tougher matchups than Sammy Watkins over the next seven weeks. I even thought about dropping him. I asked Heath if we could drop him in the Heathdom League, and we agreed no. But that could be a horrible mistake. So let's talk about Doug Martin first. And what are your expectations for him rest of the season? I can't forget the fact that Doug Martin was brutally bad last year.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I think he averaged less than three yards per carry. So let's start with him, and then we'll go to Sammy Watkins. Tell me about Doug Martin, what you expect after this week. We don't expect much this week, but going forward. I expect a number two running back with a good opportunity to score a touchdown on a regular basis, more efficient than he was last season. Yeah, I would agree. I think there's top 15 potential for him.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Like you said, he was bad with his yards per carry, but in what I'm looking at right now, one, two, three, four, 4, 5, 6. The six games he played before the suspension started last year. In four of those, he gave you 10 or more fantasy points because while he was averaging 2.1 yards per carry or 2.6 yards per carry, he was finding the end zone or getting 100 total yards. He would grind his way to 100 total yards. He had one game last year at Kansas City, 24 carries for 63 yards, which is 2.6 yards per carry, but he had three catches for 42 yards.
Starting point is 00:42:27 That's the type of player he could be. Okay. So Sammy Watkins, what do you guys think? I don't know what to think. He's tough, yeah. That's how I feel too. He's tough. You have a quarterback that's seemingly afraid to take chances,
Starting point is 00:42:43 which is understandable because they've had success as a team. And a receiver that is extremely dynamic but still needs to have opportunities. Last week was really frustrating given the circumstances. Over the middle of the field
Starting point is 00:43:00 multiple times and Goff just not looking. Yeah, I guess that's part of the evolution for Jerry Goff. He's not a finished product yet. It's also a rapport factor. I mean, look, he spent an offseason with Cooper Cup, with Tyler Higbee, with Gerald Everett, with Robert Woods and Tavon Austin, and then Watkins got dumped in his lap in training camp.
Starting point is 00:43:21 So it's understandable that they don't really know each other very well yet, but you would think after that 49ers game where, hey, if I just put the ball in that guy's vicinity, he can make some plays, that that would help. But this was the concern. It was a minor concern, but it was tough schedule, injury risk, and then can this quarterback support him? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And the third one is playing itself out before we get to the tough schedule. If somebody dropped Sammy Watkins, would you immediately put a waiver claim in for him? Depends on the depth of the league and who's on the back of my bench. I considered it in one league just because it's a 10-team league, and I'm stashing David Johnson. I'm stashing Andrew Luck. And Watkins was my fourth receiver of a three-receiver league. And so I ended up dropping another running back. But it was a tough call.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Okay. All right, guys. Let's play a game. One more question, actually. This is from J. Wire. We need a fantasy league where you live draft the waiver wire every week instead of having to make waiver claims. I would like to stay married. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:32 No, this would take less time. You would have to commit to a certain time. But how many rounds? Like, realistically, how many rounds would you do? You do three rounds of waiver claims? I'm out. I love it. I think it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I love it. It would be very difficult to pull off, but you could do like an untimed draft for waiver claims. I love it. I think it's great. Jamie, yes or no? No. Come on. This is a terrific idea.
Starting point is 00:44:59 This is one of the best ideas I've ever heard in fantasy football. I love it. Okay. So you go how many rounds? You go three rounds. Okay, so if I want to pick up four players, what happens? Then you do free agency or something like that after. So then why don't you just do free agency?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Because this is great. Because doing waiver claims takes so long. I love this idea. Okay, by the way. I had three leagues last night where it was at least 15 plus waiver claims. Oh, I made 24 in one. I think that's the most I've ever made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Unbelievable. How many of them did you get? Honestly, I don't remember. I did get – I had one league where I got three of those waiver-wire running backs. I think I got Aaron Jones, Latavius Murray, and Alex Collins, or maybe it was Gallman. I'm pretty happy about that actually. And that's a league where I had Cook, Montgomery, David Johnson, so I really needed it.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I went nuts. I went nuts. It took a lot of time, but I think it's going to pay off. I hope it's going to pay off. I got a lot of Latavius, so I just hope he's serviceable. Alright, buy low or heck no. And then sell high or
Starting point is 00:46:04 no thanks, guy. Buy low or heck no on And then, sell high or no thanks, guy. Buy low or heck no on Mark Ingram. Buy low. Buy low. Okay, Ingram or Martin? Doug Martin, rest of the season. Ingram. I'll take Martin.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Okay, okay. Alright, Ingram with 14 carries each of the last two games. And a lot of catches this year, okay. All right, Ingram with 14 carries each of the last two games. And a lot of catches this year, actually. He's got 15 catches so far in four games. He's had a lot of catches the last few years. He's a good receiving running back. Yeah, touchdowns will come for him.
Starting point is 00:46:35 That's the thing that's missing right now. But the one concern would be is how much more work does Kamara get and what does that do to his fantasy value movement? As long as they're cutting Peterson out of the equation, I'm okay with it. Okay, buy low or heck no, Joe Mixon. Buy low. Yeah, I'll buy low. It's just not going to be low, though.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Not playing very well. Right. So, you know, what would you give up for him? Would you rather, aggressive season, do you think you'd rather have Danny Amendola or Joe Mixon? Mixon. Buy low or heck no on Demarius Thomas? Buy low. Yep, I'll buy low.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Demarius Thomas has zero targets inside the 10-yard line. Emmanuel Sanders has three. Demarius Thomas has two red zone targets. Emmanuel Sanders has six. You still want to buy low? Yes. Buy low or heck no? Jimmy Graham.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I'll buy low. Buy low. Is it a buy low or I don't even know how people value it. You just asked us that though so the answer would be yes. Can I trade Cameron Brate for Jimmy Graham? I would do that, yeah. His last two games have been solid, I guess,
Starting point is 00:47:46 but I feel like people are down on him. They have every right to be down on him, but he's still somebody. You brought this up. I don't remember what show we were doing, radio or one of our podcasts, but about how tight ends finding the better ones is hard to do when you compare them to catchers in fantasy baseball. I still think he may not be Gary Sanchez, but he is – is LaCroix still a good catcher?
Starting point is 00:48:12 No. LaCroix had an awful year. We said by low all season long. He never did it. Wilson Ramos, is that a good catcher? Yeah. Okay. That's not a bad one.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Maybe more of like a Brian McCann. Is this discouraging or encouraging that Luke Wilson has caught a touchdown in two straight games for Seattle? Sickening. It's tough from a fantasy perspective, but as we're going to see with Seattle's running backs, and I think people are starting to make the comparison of what Pete Carroll could be like a Belichick or a Shanahan. They don't care. Russell Wilson, I think, is proving over the last couple of years that he doesn't need to feed his best players to still be successful.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Absolutely. It's amazing how good Russell Wilson is. Russell Wilson scored, how many points did he score last week? 30-something? 34, yeah. And not one receiver had a good game. Jimmy Graham didn't have a good game. Doug Baldwin, none of them had a good game.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And he still, he just cobbles it together. He's really incredible in that regard. Well, that depends. Because McKissick had a good game. Yeah. He is a wide receiver. And he is a wide receiver. Well, that depends because McKissick had a good game. Yeah. He is a wide receiver. Okay, okay. He's kind of a running back. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Terrell Pryor, buy low or heck no? Very, very, very, very low. I contemplated dropping him one league last night. Yeah, I'll say heck no. T.Y. Hilton, buy low or heck no? Buy low, yeah. very low. I contemplated dropping him in one league last night. Yeah, I'll say Heckno. T.Y. Hilton, buy low or Heckno? Buy low, yeah. Buy low. Okay. DeMarco Murray, buy low or Heckno? Only
Starting point is 00:49:51 three more carries than Derrick Henry this year. Yeah, but that's with the inflated game against the Jaguars. Yeah, I'll buy low. Rest of season, Doug Martin or DeMarco Murray? DeMarco How long is Mario out? One game
Starting point is 00:50:11 Murray Okay, rest of season, Jordan Howard or DeMarco Murray? Howard Howard Buy low or heck no on? Marshawn Lynch Heck no Yeah What are you buying low on? I think Okay, I will make a case or heck no on Marshawn Lynch. Heck no.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah. What are you buying low on? I think... Okay, I will make a case because I'm sort of interested in this. Does it involve him getting more than 12 carries? Yeah, because I think
Starting point is 00:50:34 the reason he hasn't gotten the carries has just been the score. Well, the score in the matchup. They were winning by too much and then they were
Starting point is 00:50:42 losing by too much. No, no, no. Well, I'd say that's kind of true. The first game for Lynch, he got a nice workload. He had 18 carries for 76 yards at Tennessee. The second game, they blew out the Jets. He had 12 carries, 45 yards, and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He danced as much as he gave you production. Okay, but he gave you 10 fantasy points. He gave you a good game. His dancing was better. Well, it was better, yeah. Six carries at Washington. They got blown out good game. The last two games. His dancing was better. Well, it was better, yeah. But six carries at Washington. They got blown out. So they couldn't play him.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And then nine carries for 12 yards at Denver, which is actually better than what Ezekiel Elliott did at Denver. Denver's run defense is beyond elite right now. So I don't know that he's great. I really think he's going to play well this week. And the week after, the Chargers. Potentially. Potentially. But I'm just taking it week by week case with him. I don't necessarily want to – I'll buy low if it's cheap, but I don't want to say I'm targeting Marshawn Lynch.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And I think the offensive line for the Raiders has not been as good as we expected. I still think they're good, but it wasn't just – one of the other things that you could have sold down with Marshawn Lynch is he has a good offensive line and that passing game is so good that teams can't stack the box against him. You get EJ Emanuel as quarterback now. Yeah, that's a pretty good point. All right. The one thing, though, that could help him is, you know, rushing quarterbacks tend to help running backs and running games. And EJ Emanuel can move a little bit.
Starting point is 00:52:07 All right, next segment is sell high or no thanks guy. I know you guys aren't feeling the names of these segments. That's okay. That's okay. Lamar Miller, sell high or no thanks guy? No thanks guy. I think he's a sell high guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah, come on. We were just talking a week ago about how discouraged we were by Lamar Miller. I think I might have said he was up by a little week ago. No, I don't. I feel like last Sunday, two Sundays ago, I asked you guys, you know, Worryometer. I put the Worryometer on him like being great. I think we were pretty high on it.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I think all of us were. Maybe I'm wrong. Two games ago was the Foreman three-catch game for 65 yards, I think it was. And Miller had one catch in that game, which is what we thought would save Miller, was his pass catching. So I really thought, I said this on Sunday morning on our show, that the comments that Bill O'Brien made were almost like he's staring into Lamar Miller's eyes that when he said that Deontay Foreman's a three down back and you saw the
Starting point is 00:53:10 result. He looked the best he's looked all season. Yeah. So hopefully that's a sign of things to come. But there is still that guy lurking behind him. Like what's a reasonable sell high on Lamar Miller is my problem. I expect him to be a fantasy starter the rest of the season, a solid number two running back.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I don't know if he was a solid number two running back. He was a number two running back last year. I think the one thing about it is when we're talking about running backs is there are at least two owners, hopefully it's not one, that lost Dalvin Cook and Chris Carson. And if they have receiver depth, and especially if you can use that receiver depth, or a, I don't know, stud tight end,
Starting point is 00:53:50 but a good tight end, or good quarterback, whatever, can you get Lamar Miller for something that will help your team? And always the case, you know, when you're looking at a guy that's had one great game compared to three mediocre games, that's a sell-high candidate. I mean, look, I guess here's the thing with Miller, right?
Starting point is 00:54:06 It was part of it. If he's going to get 15 or more carries every week, then he's probably going to be good unless their offense stinks, which is what I was worried about this year. I thought their offense was going to stink. Clearly their offense is going to be better than I thought. So that's a point for Miller. No thanks, guy.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Okay. I think it does sort of, for me at least, it comes down to how much faith you have in Deshaun Watson. And yeah, I don't think he's going to have the best rookie season we've ever seen. When you look at what Winston did, what Luck did, what Mariota did in their rookie seasons, these last two games, based on that, he's going to blow them all away. I don't think that's going to happen. But I do think he's going to be a lot better.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Like I had been saying so high on DeAndre Hopkins, and I clearly have to reevaluate that because Deshaun Watson is definitely going to be better than I anticipated him being. Would you trade Lamar Miller for Brandon Cooks? Unless I had absolutely no running back depth, in a second I would do that. That's the type of thing. I mean, we're talking about guys that had one good game and three mediocre games.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Right, but we would have, at least I would have said coming into the season, that they're close. Did you know that Brandon Cooks, based on his one big game, is the number three wide receiver in standard? Well, he also had a very good game week one. It wasn't just – Yeah, eight points. But he's like 12th in PPR.
Starting point is 00:55:28 But no, I mean, yeah, I would do that. Jamie, would you do that? Absolutely. Heath, would you? But again, it depends on your team. It's completely team dependent. But just in a vacuum, if you're telling me I can get Brandon Cooks for Lamar Miller as a flex. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:44 All right. Sell high or no thanks, guy, on Chris Hogan. Second most red zone targets in the league. Third most targets inside the 10. Sell high. Yeah. Gronk has not been Gronk. And he's still healthy.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Are you sure Brandon Cooks is the number three right receiver in fantasy? I think he's number nine. I think Chris Hogan's number three wide receiver in fantasy. No, I saw this morning and last night. Well, maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing. If you can get number three wide receiver value for Chris Hogan, then yes, sell high. No, no, no. Brandon Cooks.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Oh, okay. I understand what you're saying. I'm probably holding on to Hogan, though. Okay. I am seeing right now. No thanks, guy. I bet you he's lower in decimalogan, though. Okay, I am seeing right now... No thanks, Guy. I bet you he's lower in decimal scoring, Heath. That'd be my guess, but
Starting point is 00:56:29 I'm looking at our stats page, and we have Brandon Cooks as the number three wide receiver right now. With 13 catches for 294 yards and two touchdowns. Charles Clay. Sell high, or no thanks, Guy guy No thanks guy Again
Starting point is 00:56:48 Can I get Jimmy Grant for Charles Clay I think you might be able to I would do it Clay I do want to point out Last week was His first week with more than Like 50 53 yards But also now Jordan Matthews
Starting point is 00:57:04 Is out Which means more attention to Yeah than like 50, 53 yards. But also now Jordan Matthews is out. Which means more attention too. Yeah. All right. Jimmy Graham or Heath. God, I was about to like call you Jimmy Graham, Heath. Heath, Jimmy Graham or Charles Clayton?
Starting point is 00:57:17 I know Jamie would take Graham. I would take Graham as well. All right. Is that, yeah. So it's Gronk, Kelsey, Ertz Jordan Reed Who's number four? Who's your number four tight end? This week?
Starting point is 00:57:31 No, rest of season Jordan Reed Jimmy Graham Charles Clay Well, no, obviously not You like Graham better than Clay Would you trade Charles Clay for Jordan Reed? No.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I think I would. Wow. Would you, Heath? I think I probably would. Just knowing the fact that he's playing on a broken toe. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:01 All right. I asked the Twitter users, buy low or sell high or no thanks guy? Deshaun Watson. I think sell high. Not that he's bad, but you can get a lot for him. Wendell Smallwood. Sell high or no thanks guy? Sell high.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Sell high. Anybody that you can pick up off waivers and trade for something that can help your team is the best way to do it. Like what Heath did with Deshaun Watson. That's the best way to approach fantasy. I also – I can't see LeGarrette Blount being this good. He's looked so good the last two weeks. Look, guys like Smallwood and Powell, even though Powell was drafted, anybody that has an injury opportunity in front of them or a potential still injury situation looming you you love those guys but if if you can trade a lot like dave's trying to flip below powell in our in our uh dynasty league that we share the team adam um
Starting point is 00:58:52 he's trying to uh flip him for a receiver i guarantee you well you wanted to trade for him right heath i was going to but then i didn't have a receiver that matched up right i offered him jordan matthews um and dave's in a great situation in that league because he drafted kareem hunt in the middle of our rookie draft before spencer were got hurt so he's got that he drafted levy on bell he drafted carlos hyde he's got running back depth galore his number one receiver is jordy nelson after that he's starting jj nelson and markie sleep so he needs receivers and he's in the perfect position to try and trade a running back but dave is asking for too much for Bilal Powell.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I wonder if I offered him Pierre Garçon for Bilal Powell if he'd make that trade. He should do that. All right, last one here from Mike. Sell high or no thanks guy on Stefan Diggs, the number one receiver in fantasy? No thanks guy. Keep him. I mean, it depends on what I can get for him. I would sell him for Beckham.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Who I think the people are down on. Here's one for you, Mr. Crow. Would you trade Diggs for Melvin Gordon? That is much like the Brandon Cooks question. It depends on the team. But if I needed a running back, yes, I would. I think I'm in pretty good shape on the team. But if I needed a running back, yes, I would. I think I'm in pretty good shape on the Crow thing, right?
Starting point is 01:00:10 You're looking that way. What was it officially? Melvin Gordon will not be a top four running back. He's currently 14th. I think I whiffed on Stefan Diggs. He's a lot better than I thought. He's really good. And we'll only get better when Bradford gets healthy.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Okay, guys. Thank you so much. And that's it. Goodbye. Get the hell out of here. See ya. Bye. It's alright. I've got.

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