Fantasy Football Today - 10/06 Fantasy Football Podcast: Start or Sit (NFC), NE-TB Reax

Episode Date: October 6, 2017

Which player can influence his rest of season ranking the most this week (2:40)? We tell you who has a lot to prove in Week 5 before recapping last night's thrilling NE-TB game (5:10). Is Jameis dropp...able? Who is the best NE WR rest of season? ... Adam proposes an NFL rule change (15:00), we review this week's Waiver Wire RBs and how we feel about them three days later (23:00) and we play Beat the Waiver Wire (27:00) for Week 6! ... ARI-PHI (28:55), CAR-DET (35:15), LAC-NYG (43:35), SEA-LAR (48:48), GB-DAL (53:55), MIN-CHI (58:20) and our daily fantasy lineups ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's Adam, Dave, and James. Alright, welcome to the Friday show.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Let's get those lineups set. We'll preview the six NFC home games. Who started Dwayne Allen in the league last night or leagues? Raise your hand. This is a podcast, Adam. No one can see you raising your hand. I am raising it. I see a hairy arm in the air, though.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Oh, there it is. Thank goodness I didn't see the pits. No, I covered the pits. I started the one. It's like a Starlack pit. Yeah. Things go in there, they don't come out. Get Boba Fett out of there.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Adam has no idea what we're talking about. Yeah, I don't get the Reset Star Trek or something like that. Oh, my gosh. Guardians of the Galaxy. No, I know what it is. I know what it is. And I know about... Well, Boba Fett gave it away, right?
Starting point is 00:00:57 Yes. You don't know what the Sarlac Pit is, right? No idea what the Sarlac Pit is. Well, look under your armpits and you'll see it. I'm sure that's very funny for you sci-fi fans and hey listen fantasy football fans get on fanduel.com click the join now button use our code cbs pod new users get free entry into the nfl sunday million with over 1 million dollars in cash prizes when you make your first deposit on fandDuel, voidware prohibited. Again, FanDuel.com, promo code CBSPOD.
Starting point is 00:01:27 So no Dwayne Allen for you guys. I started him in one league over, I think, surprisingly, he did not do better than Vernon Davis, who I had originally as my starting tight end. You got upgraded there, yes. Yeah. But that was disappointing. Didn't even get a target. We're going to talk about that game.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Did he get a point per snap? Because he played a lot of snaps. He did. He played more than half the snaps. We're going to talk about that game. Did he get a point per snap? Because he played a lot of snaps. He did. He played more than half the snaps, and he still played 50% of the snaps. He didn't get one damn target. What's up with that? Let's call Tom Brady and ask him. Tom Brady targeted four guys the whole game.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Is that it? Or four guys caught passes. I don't know if he targeted anybody else, but four guys caught passes. Well, that's true. No, more than four guys caught passes. See, the three receivers, James White. White and Deion Lewis had catches. Cooks and Hogan.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Oh, Deion Lewis was the fifth. And Danny Amendola. Lewis was the fifth. So there were five. Yeah. And let me get to it in the game book. Fun game. There is a, I believe Jake Hollister is a tight end.
Starting point is 00:02:22 He got one target. Yes. So did fullback James Devlin. Yeah, the Devlin one was the one Brady was pissed about. Devlin had a wheel route that there was miscommunication. I love the fullback wheel route. He would have been wide open. Brady threw it underneath thinking he was going to cut it back.
Starting point is 00:02:38 He pulled a Jameis. In-depth analysis of New England-Tampa Bay. That's coming up. Hey, do me a favor, though. Fill in the blank. The player who can influence his rest-of-season value the most this week is blank. I'll give you time to think, and I'll just say it's Cam Newton for me. Really?
Starting point is 00:03:04 If Cam has a bad game, you're just going to throw him back to the Wolves? Well, more like if Cam has a good game, then I will sit there for the rest of the year going to me and Heath with the team Heath and I share going, Why did we drop Cam Newton? But no, I want to see. Was it just the Patriots matchup, or is he legitimately turning a corner? I think there's a lot at stake for Cam. He's definitely a good one i'll give you one that has nothing to do with the players value in fantasy but it will impact others in fantasy jay cutler if jay color goes out there this week and stinks i'm not talking about a game where he's 16 for 21 passing because jay ajay
Starting point is 00:03:40 you know rolls over tennessee it's got to be like 18 for 36, 228 yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions, four cigarettes on the field. Just a total nightmare of a situation. If that happens, then I think you have to reevaluate the entire Dolphins offense. I'm going to disagree with you for one situation. If that happens, Matt Moore will be starting, and then things could be dramatically different for the rest of that offense.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Will he start, or did they pay Culler too much money? If they're 1-3, after everything that's happened, and he has a third bad game in a row, yes. All right, fill in the blank. Unless, Jamie, do you want to give an answer to that, player with most rest-of-season value at stake? I don't think it's going to necessarily influence his rest of season value, but this is the first tough game for the Rams.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And if we've been talking about, again, I don't want to say sell Todd Gurley, but if he struggles this week, does it make you wish you had sold Todd Gurley? All right. I am higher on blank than my fellow CBS analysts. Jay Cutler. Cam Newton. Okay. And blank will be a bust this week.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Cam Newton. Jay Cutler. All right. Anybody else? Cutler won't be a big bust. I don't think he'll finish his top 12. There's no expectations for Cutler, so it's hard for him to be a bust. There's a lot of expectations for Cam.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. All right, well, I guess that was a quarterback section right there. New England 19, Tampa Bay 14. Tom Brady was a bust this week. Jameis Winston was okay. Tom Brady scored 14 fantasy points. Rob Gronkowski missed the game, and I started the way now, as you know. And Gronk should be back next week.
Starting point is 00:05:24 That's what Tracy Wilson reported right at the outset of the game, so you don't have to make any roster moves. I was trying so hard to acquire Gronk in some of my leagues before the game because I had a feeling that it was just an injury in practice on a short week and that he would be back. So I was hustling, even all the way to 820 before lineups locked. Anybody buy? I could have traded in my keeper league Jordan Reed and a third-round pick for Gronk,
Starting point is 00:05:52 and I didn't do it. Why? Because I didn't want to give up my third-round pick. That's interesting. You might regret that. We'll see. You might. But I started Cameron Bray.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It doesn't look long-term. Anyway, we're not worried about Tom Brady. 303 yards, whatever. He's fine. He's at the Jets next week. What about the Patriots running backs? Is Deion Lewis going to start taking over for Mike Gillisley? Man, am I sick and tired of this Mike Gillisley garbage.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It's possible. I mean, Burkhead also is expected to return next week, too. I don't think Gillisley's been a problem for them. It's just been a problem for Fantasy, because you're getting the shared backfield situation on rushing downs, and they haven't given him the goal line chances like we saw in the first couple games, because they haven't been down there very often. Right. Weird.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And he has zero targets. I mean, zero targets through five games. As many as you, Adam. I did get that question. Is he an outright sit in PPR? And the answer is yes. As long as you've got a running back that can catch five passes a game, for sure. Otherwise, it really depends on your situation.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But he's not a must-start. Who's the best Patriots wide receiver rest of season? Yeah, I know. That's the thing. You're going to play the Jets. Who's the best Patriots wide receiver rest of season? When it comes crashing down and it hurts.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Really? There's a lot of touchdowns coming for him. There's already a lot of touchdowns coming for Hogan. It's hard to say that that's going to be sustainable. I think Cooks has got a higher ceiling moving forward. I'll tell you what. They're both great, though. It's not like say that that's going to be sustainable. So I think Cooks has got a higher ceiling moving forward. I'll tell you what. I mean, Hogan –
Starting point is 00:07:27 They're both great, though. It's not like one's bad. I'm going to look at it right now. Hogan has – He's had 12 or more fantasy points in four straight games. I don't know if this is updated, but he's got the second most red zone targets and the second most targets inside the 10-yard line, Chris Hogan. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And that's not – Single coverage every time. That's not Cooks' strength. He's kind of a big play guy. All right. Jamie's going to put the buy low tag on Brandon Cooks. Dave, are you going to do that? Not that he was bad yesterday, but he hasn't been great.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Only one game with more than eight fantasy points in standard leagues. He's just missing touchdowns. He's had three games with at least 80 yards receiving. Sure. He's a buy low. Okay. Danny Amendola, he's a buy low. Danny Amendola, is he a sell high or is he a PPR mainstay?
Starting point is 00:08:12 He's a sell high from the standpoint of the injury risk, but you got him so cheap, why would you sell him at this point? Nobody's going to give you fair value for what he's been delivering. He's part of a package trade in a PPR league. That's it.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And if you target him, it's probably going to take a bigger deal unless you trade like Elijah McGuire maybe. In a PPR league, I don't think someone would do that unless they were just really desperate. So Jameis Winston, 90% started. He gave you 20 fantasy points. He threw for 300. He was good fantasy-wise.
Starting point is 00:08:45 He was bad NFL-wise. He was bad NFL-wise. He should have been so much better. He missed. Okay, the game, I mean, for fantasy owners, he missed Deshaun Jackson on the deep ball. That should have been a touchdown. It was the dumbest, dumbest play call because they couldn't convert on third down,
Starting point is 00:08:59 and they had a third and three, and he throws a 40-yard pass down the field when he hasn't been connecting with Deshaun Jackson all play long. Their third down plays were terrible. And I'll tell you what, the play calling to Deshaun Jackson has been pretty crappy too. They had a, I think it was the first time all year, that they had a slant across the middle where they cleared out, they let him run underneath, and it was his biggest play of the game,
Starting point is 00:09:17 maybe until the catch in the fourth quarter. They need to do more of that. Just don't throw him down the field, down the field, down the field. I mean, you know, these 50-50 balls that he's trying to throw to these guys, they're just not successful. They're not 50-50 for Deshaun Jackson because of the inaccuracy and because Deshaun Jackson's not a big guy. Well, no, there was one earlier in the game, which was a 50-50 ball,
Starting point is 00:09:34 and he nearly got picked off. Right. So they're more like 40-60 balls. Well, tell me how you're valuing Jameis going forward. You know, like the fantasy production has been good the last two weeks, and he's got three straight games with a lot of passes and 328 or more passing yards. But he
Starting point is 00:09:50 just doesn't look that good. And even against the Giants, I know most people didn't see that game, but I did. He threw a lot of... He threw a few passes that should have been intercepted. So, you know, he's not really looking like the quarterback we're hoping. That said, he's throwing a ton. What do you think? Well, again, there's a difference, though. The quarterback that we're hoping. That said, he's throwing a ton. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Well, again, there's a difference, though. The quarterback that we're hoping, fantasy or the quarterback that we're hoping to see on the field? Yeah, on the field. Because fantasy-wise, he's been okay. Right. He's been okay. They've played four games.
Starting point is 00:10:16 He's had two good ones. Yeah, but even the Minnesota game wasn't bad fantasy-wise. I mean, 18 points is not going to kill you. Yep. So, yeah, what do you think? Is he a top? Winston or Watson, rest of season? Winston.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Winston, but I don't know if I like that. Is it fair to ask that now when we haven't seen Watson play? Yeah, let's wait. Let's wait. All right, here's just what I look at. His next three games are at Arizona, at Buffalo, with Buffalo coming off of a bye. So back-to-back road games, home against Carolina.
Starting point is 00:10:50 So two toughs and a nah. You need to have another quarterback if you've got Jameis. But there's also the other teams that are on a bye where he's not. Who's missing during those weeks? Well, next week it's Buffalo, Russell Wilson, Dak, Dalton, and Tyrod Taylor.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Okay, so there's two guaranteed starters and maybe two more. Week seven you got Stafford, Deshaun Watson, and that's it. So he's probably going to be a top 12 guy in that range. All right, and the other thing is Doug Martin. Doug Martin could probably start getting more work. He had 13 carries. Great debut. And I give credit to the 67% of Doug Martin owners Doug Martin could probably start getting more work. He had 13 carries. Great debut. And I give credit to the 67% of Doug Martin owners who started him.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I certainly did not. I'll tell you, there were two reports I saw. I did a 180 on him yesterday afternoon, so I apologize to our podcast listeners. I put him in my top 24 after what Dan Graziano tweeted out and Greg Allman of the Tampa Bay Times. They both said expect heavy workloads for Doug Martin. So when I – and I had this conversation with Chris Towers. I said when I originally did my ranking this week, I had him like 22, 23. And then after all the stuff he said, dropped him down.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And I was like, just stuck to where I had him originally, and that's where I put him back there. So I hope people saw that at least. But, again, for what we were saying leading up to last night's game, he probably didn't have him in a good spot. I was having a panic attack because I had for one spot Doug Martin or Wendell Smallwood. And Smallwood didn't practice on Thursday. So I saw those reports and I went,
Starting point is 00:12:19 how could it possibly be true that he's going to go out there and be effective when he's barely practiced with the team in the last month because it's been four weeks they had to buy in week one so he got a little screwed there and uh i had to play it safe i knew doug martin would play some i i am very glad he played like he did he looked great fresh legs never ever underestimate fresh legs especially on a short week yep he 13 carries 74 yards and a touchdown, one catch on three targets. Only played 36% of the snaps, but Doug Martin made them count. A rare bad game for Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Good job by Stephon Gilmore. Actually, Tony Romo had a great point before the game. He was talking about how Bill Belichick, when he was the defensive coordinator for the Giants in the 80s, he had more success against Joe Gibbs than anyone. I don't know if he said that, but he had a lot of success against Joe Gibbs' offenses, and not many people did. And he said that Dirk Cutter's offense in Tampa Bay is a lot like Joe Gibbs. So he thought that the Patriots could have a good defensive game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Starting point is 00:13:21 and they did. It was interesting. Last thing here. Two things. He's so good. Romo's great. Romo's great. I thought you were saying Belichick's great.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I think that defense is going to start getting a little better. Of course they are. This wasn't a big step. I think Jameis made them look good. Yes. But I think they're going to start to improve. Yes. Okay, and do you care at all about Adam Humphreys in a PPR league? 9% owned.
Starting point is 00:13:44 No. I'm aly guy. And Cameron Bray is starting to get more involved in the offense. He should have had two touchdowns. He dropped one. Yes. This is a guy that Jamie was really high on. He's now three straight games with a touchdown, though,
Starting point is 00:13:56 and 14 fantasy points in standard, 19 in PPR. Big week for him. 77% owned. But uh-oh, he's got Arizona next week. But still, is Cameron Brayton a must-add guy? Messed-own guy, Cameron Brayton? Oh, yeah. Given what tight ends have been doing right now,
Starting point is 00:14:12 you may take some lumps for a couple weeks, but you have to stick with it. I got lucky. We were in one league. He was available in a last-minute swap out for Gronk. So I was thrilled. Wow. Nice.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Nice. All right. I'd like to about that. Wow. Nice. On VaporWire. Nice. All right. I'd like to propose a rule change. Okay? In the National Football League or on the podcast? National Football League. Because I would like to also propose a rule change. Would you like to go first?
Starting point is 00:14:35 Sure. Age before beauty. Go ahead. On our podcast, when you call for a bonanza or a windfall or anything, and it fails, I'm going to give your personal number to one of our listeners absolutely not i will not accept that proposal sorry that's what we're gonna do not do it dave that is not funny i mean it's kind of funny but i wouldn't do that one one person one time will call you i'm not even sure there will be a banana i'm discouraged
Starting point is 00:15:04 good what good all right so uh we got an email about that bonanza we got an email about that One person, one time will call you. I'm not even sure there will be a banana. I'm discouraged. Good. What? Good. All right, so we got an email about that. We got an email about that. For all we know, he muttered it under his breath before kickoff last night. Here are the two rule changes I would like to propose. I've proposed this before, but nothing's happened, so let me propose it again.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I think offensive holding should be a seven-yard penalty. I don't know why everything has to be five or ten. We're not little kids. We can do sevens. I think ten is a drive killer. Five isn't severe enough. Offensive holding should be a seven-yard penalty. But I'm willing to lose that one. I'm not willing to lose this one. This is a great idea. How frustrating is it? Third and long. Defense commits a hands to the face or a legal contact or holding. Bam. Automatic first down. Stupid.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Should not be an automatic first down. What it should be is a five-yard penalty. And gain a down. So if it's second down, it becomes first down. If the penalty is on third down, it becomes second down. Or the penalty is on first down. It's the first down. And it's first down. If the penalty's on third down, it becomes second down. What if the penalty's on first down? It's the first down. Then it's zero down. Whatever. You still get a first
Starting point is 00:16:10 down. You're not going to complain about that. And then what if it happens again on zero down? Now it's negative one down? There's no such thing as zero down, Dave. It's first down. But it's really for third down. Third down, you get a five yard penalty and the offense gains a down. We need to start thinking outside the box. We are smart human beings. We can handle these types of adjustments.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I really can't stand that. Defensive penalties, giving people free first downs drives me crazy. Gain a down. This is Adam Azer. I support this rule change. So if you're interested in calling Adam when he bonanzas something, just let me know on Twitter and one of you
Starting point is 00:16:41 will be lucky enough to get his number. Alright, let me promote a few things. We have Ion Fantasy Football tomorrow night. I am not going to be on that show. It's going to be Dave and Jamie, so you'll get even better advice. Ion Fantasy Football, Saturday nights, 10 p.m. Eastern till midnight on CBS Sports Radio. We'll probably answer like 60 phone calls. It's very fun. And you can listen on CBSSportsRadio.com
Starting point is 00:17:05 Fantasy Football today is noon eastern Monday through Friday on CBSSports.com And 11am eastern until kickoff On Sunday We have a lot of other podcasts that you should be listening to I've been listening to the Pick 6 podcast It is outstanding 24-7 Sports College Football podcast is great
Starting point is 00:17:21 You wrestling fans need to listen to the In This Corner podcast You can see them all CBS to the In This Corner podcast. You can see them all, cbssports.com slash podcast. And I do want to apologize. We get so many emails. I don't read nearly enough of them. So make sure you listen to the Mailbag Show. When we do get a chance to listen, to read your emails, those air on Saturdays.
Starting point is 00:17:42 We'll update you on some injuries, practice reports from Friday. And we have fun, you know. They're fun. Here's a tweet of the day. It's from Zach Allen. Adam, I want you to bonanza the Packers-Cowboys game just to see how powerful your sorcery is. Well, you know that's the game you want to do it. I think that's the game I would choose.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I don't really know what else it would be. I mean, all right. I haven't really know what else it would be. I mean, all right. I haven't decided yet. I'm very discouraged. I hate all the hate mails and the hate tweets I get. It really bums me out. But I can't let those people win, right? Well, it's like people are giving you crap for last night's game that you did,
Starting point is 00:18:22 like what Dave said, that you mumbled it under your breath. You didn't say anything about that one. No, not at all. You actually did not make an official bonanza. Actually, I said about last night's game that the Buccaneers would cover. So got that, right, because it was five and a half. It is, yep. So, hey, take that.
Starting point is 00:18:37 All right, we'll see. We'll see what happens. So you paid off Nick Folk. Oh, God. No, no, he would have made it even easier to cover. Could have gotten the money line if not for Nick Folk. Oh, that's true, God. No, he would have made it even easier to cover. Could have gotten the money line if not for Nick Folk. Oh, that's true, yes. All right, news and notes.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Derek Carr could be ahead of schedule, has a chance to play next week, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Next week would be the Chargers. Six weeks, so. Yeah. Sam Bradford returned to practice. Any chance he plays this Monday night? Yes. Where would you rank him if you knew Sam Bradford were playing at the Bears?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Top 15? Yep. He would definitely be up there. What's the latest on the Green Bay running backs? They're all practicing. And Jamal Williams is full practice. Of course, Aaron Jones isn't hurt, so he's full practice too. Montgomery's limited.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And the spidey sense is that Montgomery won't play, and the other two will, but Jones could start, should start. If Montgomery's out, I'm okay with Jones as a least of flex. Me too. What's the latest on Devontae Adams? Limited practice, but still hasn't been cleared yet, I believe. Jay Ajayi missed practice, and he's got this knee injury. Are you guys getting concerned about Jay Ajayi?
Starting point is 00:19:53 No. If he misses practice on Friday, I'd get concerned. Yes. That's why you've got to listen to the Mailbag Show. We can tell you all about it. Or, you know, just do a Google search or go to CBSSports.com. But also, I sent you guys an article in the Miami Herald about how bad the Dolphins' run blocking has been. Casey Joyner, is that his name on ESPN? He watches all the film.
Starting point is 00:20:17 He says that the Dolphins, like right now, their run blocking is among the worst he's ever seen basically to some. He's right. That's incredible. You saw it in the game against the Jets that that offensive line just did not look good. They're also not good pass blocking. They are lining up somebody over Mike Pouncey as opposed to going in the gap against him, and that's really impacted how the Dolphins' offensive line has reacted. So hopefully Adam Gase makes some adjustments.
Starting point is 00:20:45 But we're still starting a Jaya this week. Start of the week. All right. CJ Proseis is unlikely to play. We haven't not talked about JD McKissick, who you have the option of making a running back, a wide receiver, or both as a commissioner on CBSSports.com. But do you have any interest in noting JD McKissick?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Deeper PPR leagues. Okay. And that you have any interest in noting J.D. McKissick? Deeper PPR leagues. Okay. And that dual eligibility thing is brand new for this year. Yeah. Kind of spurred on by what happened with Ty Montgomery last year, where he was – Montgomery could have played either position, but it was based on your commissioner. And this year we upgraded everything to where your commissioner can allow
Starting point is 00:21:24 McKissick to play running back or wide receiver. Just a little setting that you have to change in your league. Yeah, and we make it very easy for you. Okay, do you expect the following players? Paul Perkins. Nope. Marcus Mariota. No.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Wendell Smallwood. Not as of now. No. Ooh. Marquise Lee. Let's see if Smallwood and Lee practice on Friday. Kenny Galladay. Do you know that cut him in a bunch of leagues?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Like, saddest thing I've had. I promise you I will pick him up again at some point this season. How about next week? They've got the Saints. Maybe. Is he healthy? If he plays. Ben Watson.
Starting point is 00:22:07 He's got my roster week 16. Ben Watson's got a chance here as a tight end. Ben Watson at Oakland. Is he going to play? He's been dinged with a calf injury. Again, someone that you want to see practice on Friday. Matt Forte at Cleveland. Bonanza.
Starting point is 00:22:24 We don't expect him. And bad taste in pizza, by the way. Cleveland. Bonanza. We don't expect him. I had bad taste in pizza, by the way. No, great taste. Very smart man. I like to practice what I preach. And last night I was watching the Yankees on TV. I don't know why I shouldn't have watched it, but I did. And I was watching the CBS game, the Thursday night game, on my laptop on CBS All Access.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Start your free trial right now, cbs.com slash NFL. That's cbs.com slash NFL, not CBS Sports. And you can watch games. You don't have to watch them on TV. You can stream them. So it's good stuff, cbs.com slash NFL. Free trial on CBS All Access. We can get into almost all of the waiver wire running backs,
Starting point is 00:23:03 but as we've had time since we did the show on Tuesday, since Jamie wrote the waiver wire column on Monday night, which waiver wire running backs are you confident in this week? Latavius Murray. I think just based on workload and matchup and game flow, he should have a great chance, especially if Sam Bradford plays. Feeling more confident about Wayne Gallman. Just the fact
Starting point is 00:23:28 that Perkins may not play. Darkwa did return to practice, but I can't imagine that they go away from Gallman at this point, at least as the main guy. And then if Ty Montgomery's out, Aaron Jones. That's the whole reason why I liked Aaron Jones was Ty Montgomery sitting. Also Alex Collins.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I think this is a game that Baltimore can certainly be competitive in and potentially hold time of possession. And if that's the case, Alex Collins is going to get more than nine carries. So he says that his fumble issue is not something that's going to hinder his greatness. Hopefully he's been working on that this week. I'm paraphrasing. He didn't say that exactly. Did he say greatness?
Starting point is 00:24:05 No. He said that there's a story in the Baltimore Sun that he feels it's correctable, and he's not going to let it hold him back from being good in this league. Good. All right, so Collins and Gallman are actually available in about 50% of our leagues. We'll talk about those. Well, we talked about Collins yesterday, but we'll talk about Andre Ellington. We'll talk about the Seahawks running backs.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Those games are coming up. Any bold predictions? I should have given you the heads up. I apologize. I snuck these in the notes. I have a bold prediction. If you guys have bold predictions for Fantasy Week 5, feel free. If not, I can – I'm going to go first, and I'm actually going to change what I have.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I have something here in the notes. I'm going to get rid of it. I think, Dave, I think you're going to agree with me. I think LeGarrette Blount's going to have a big game, especially if Smallwood's out. Oh, that changes my opinion on if Smallwood's out. But I looked at the Cardinals in their East Coast trips last year. They made four of them. And in three of those games, the lead running back scored two rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:25:02 LeSean McCoy, Jonathan Stewart, and Devontae Freeman. They all had 19 or more fantasy points. They all had two rushing touchdowns. LeSean McCoy, Jonathan Stewart, and Devontae Freeman. They all had 19 or more fantasy points. They all had two rushing touchdowns in three or four games. The other guy was a Jai. He sucked. Dave, I think you think that's a good prediction. Blunt has a good game. This is going to be the third East Coast time,
Starting point is 00:25:19 the Eastern time zone game for Arizona already this season. They played at Detroit in week one and at Indianapolis the week after that. And I believe Gore had a good game against them. Gore scored. I wouldn't call it a good game. Okay. He was okay. And then Abdullah, for him, I believe he had a good game.
Starting point is 00:25:36 An Abdullah-style good game. Not a fantasy-style good game. Well, Theo Riddick had a touchdown in that game. Riddick had a touchdown in that game, too. So, yeah. I like Blount whether Smallwood plays or not because I think he can score. But if Smallwood's out, then Blount could have 15, 20, 40 carries. Go pick up Corey Clement. Yes, good call.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You can pick him up as a stash for sure. That's a good stash. Well, no, I could see him getting eight carries. You've got 10 carries left. Yeah, yeah, right. Are you starting him? I would start him in a PPR league, yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And, yeah, it's bold because Arizona does have a great run defense so far. But I think it's a situation where it looks like they might be able to take advantage. Any other bold predictions, guys? Ben Roethlisberger lights up the Jaguars. Wow. Have they faced a good quarterback yet? Good passing attack yet? Excuse me, Joe Flacco.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Keep going. Houston in week one. Houston in week one when they started Savage for half. Mariota in week two. Didn't throw. Mariota's the best one they faced. Right, and didn't throw this week. I've got Roethlisberger as a top 12, but it's 12.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I'm nervous. Scared. I think they might go conservative offensively. Dave, you got a bold prediction? I think Frank Gore finishes as a top 15 running back this week. Big game for him against the 49ers. Let's do it, Frank Gore. And let's beat the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And then we'll go into the games. Corey Clement qualifies, right? Yeah. It's a good call. I should pick him up. Atlanta, Denver, New Orleans, and Washington on by this week. Who do we have next week? We have Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Next week is Buffalo, Cincinnati, Dallas, and Seattle. So if you've got the Seahawks DST, you need to go out and find them. We'll get the Falcons defense now. You can get the Falcons defense. You can get the Ravens defense. They've got the Bears with Mitchell Trubisky under center and zero wide receivers. And the Ravens could be good for two weeks because
Starting point is 00:27:31 E.J. Manuel's not very good. But they are 82% on, but I did have them in here because you never know. I actually was able to pick up the Vikings defense on waivers in two leagues to face the Bears this week. So you never know. The Rams DST is at Jacksonville. The Texans are 85% on.
Starting point is 00:27:48 They have Cleveland. And that brings me to Will Fuller against Cleveland and Marvin Jones at New Orleans, perhaps. What do you think about picking those guys up for next week? You might not have to do it now, but maybe with Fuller. Fuller's been picked up in a bunch of leagues already, but there's still plenty more where he can get added. And Marvin Jones has been forgotten about over the past couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And I kind of like his matchup this week. I think he's a sleeper this week. And next week for sure could be good. Okay. I think any Redskins player who was dropped, I picked up Alfred Morris. Nope, I picked up Rob Kelly because he's been out on the Redskins. They're kind of the same. Rob Kelly.
Starting point is 00:28:25 They've got San Francisco next week. I'm not so sure I'd care about Jamison Crowder, but if anybody drops Pryor. It gets much easier, though, for them. Yeah. Okay, anything? Ryan Griffin. I picked up Josh Doxson in our Flex League. I was happy about that.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Okay. Ryan Griffin against Cleveland, maybe? Maybe. I feel like he'd have to show you more targets this week. Okay. Just targets. He doesn't have to have a big game for him to be that guy. Let's talk games here.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Arizona at Philadelphia. Let's get things started with a pretty interesting game. Cardinals at the Eagles. And your stat of the game, I already gave it out. It was that running backs are averaging three yards per carry against Arizona, but last year in their four East Coast trips, McCoy, Jonathan Stewart, and Devontae Freeman went nuts, had six rushing touchdowns combined. So we just talked about that.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Now, Jamie, let's look at the passing game, because the Eagles might get healthier in the secondary with Jalen Watkins and Corey Graham possibly playing. Also, Fletcher Cox, their defensive tackle, he may play. He might practice. Okay. I did read that he might play, but I guess we'll assume he won't. So he'll be practicing.
Starting point is 00:29:34 There was a story yesterday that I read that every Eagles player that has missed practice on Wednesday has not played on during the week. Interesting. Well, what do you feel about Carson Palmer going to the East Coast? Yeah, what do you think? 53 pass attempts, 320 yards. That's it? 320?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Phillip Rivers had like 330, I think, last year. He was at home. Two touchdowns, three interceptions for Palmer. Well, if he throws for 320 yards, that would be his fewest in four games. Right. He's thrown for 325 or more in three straight games. Let's put him at 350 and give him an extra interception. So then it looks like 320.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. The Eagles have a good run defense. So you've got to figure they're going to throw. The Cardinals are going to throw. Plus the Cardinals can't run the ball. Palmer or Big Ben? Palmer. Ben. All right can't run the ball. Palmer or Big Ben? Palmer. Ben.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But we like Palmer. Palmer's the top 10 guy. Yes. And any Arizona running backs? Ellington and PPR. And Standard. Ooh, even in Standard. You think he'll do enough in the passing game to be top 24? 100 total yards last week.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Would you start Andre Ellington or LeGarrette Blunt? Blunt. PPR, it's easy. It's Ellington. Standard leagues if Smallwood's out, I'll go Blunt. It's easy, Ellington and PPR? Yes, because of all the catches. I got you.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Did I tell you just how many routes he runs? They went to overtime last week, so that has to be... He's throwing 50 passes a game and they can't run. By the way, that's another reason to like Blunt. Because the Cardinals played in overtime last week. Oh, yeah. Now they're on the road this week. But you've got to admit, Jamie...
Starting point is 00:31:16 They're going to be gassed by the third quarter. Blunt's a lot more likely to score a touchdown than Ellington. Yes, but in a PPR league, this is to Jamie's point, Ellington, if you expect Ellington to catch six passes, that's probably going to be six more than LeGarrette Blount catches. So that knocks out the touchdown. All right, would you start Ellington over Aaron Jones if Ty Montgomery doesn't play?
Starting point is 00:31:38 Ellington over Aaron Jones. In PPR, for sure. Standard, no. If Ty Montgomery does not play? Does not. I would start Jones over Ellington in standard leagues. PPR for sure. Standard, no. If Ty Montgomery does not play? Does not. I would start Jones over Ellington in standard leagues. If Montgomery's out, I would start Ellington and PPR no matter what.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Right. Okay. So you guys agree on that. Okay. Arizona wide receivers. It's hard to get away from Larry Fitzgerald. Are there any other Arizona wide receivers that you want to start this week? Jerron Brown. Jerron Brown is the best of the non-Fitzgerald. Are there any other Arizona-wide receivers that you want to start this week? Jerron Brown. Jerron Brown is the best of the non-Fitzgerald
Starting point is 00:32:08 Cardinals receivers. How much do you like Jerron Brown? I'm going to look up his ownership percentage and make sure I don't have a typo, but it's pretty low. It's 41. 41% owned, Jerron Brown. Yeah, so I like him enough that I would be willing to buy him dinner, but it
Starting point is 00:32:23 would be via a gift card. That's nice. So I would probably drop off a gift card in his mailbox with a little note that says, Hey, Jerron, dinner on me. Thanks for everything. Dave. But listen, are we talking generic Visa gift card that you can use anywhere, or are we talking Carrabba's gift certificate? Oh, I'm a classy guy, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:41 It's going to be an Amex. Amex, okay, but it's not a restaurant. You're going to let him choose. No, no, he can pick the restaurant. Wonderful. Yeah. Well, I'm a classy guy, dude. It's going to be an Amex. Amex. Okay, but it's not a restaurant. You're going to let him choose. No, no. He can pick the restaurant. Wonderful. Yeah. Well, I'm generous.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Jerron Brown. Jerron Brown or Alan Hearns? Brown. Jerron Brown or Pierre Garcon? Garcon. Garcon. Okay. No John Brown?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Is he number three? He's kind of a, oh, I'm in a pinch. Start throw number three. Okay. Not the best type of number three. Okay. I'd rather have Marvin Jones. Here's one I'm struggling with.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Carson Wentz, start or sit? I've actually got some news on this game. I think Wentz is on the fence, which rhymes. Fence, yes. Which is only enough. Carson Fence. Right. Call him a low-end starting option.
Starting point is 00:33:33 ESPN reports that Wendell Small would not expect him to play. Ooh, okay. So definitely Palmer over Wentz. Yeah. All right. We'll do more Wentz ors. Well, we'll do it right now. Wentz or the list up here.
Starting point is 00:33:50 How about Jay Cutler? I would go Wentz. Wentz is a little safer. Any color has a higher ceiling. Are they both top 15? Yeah. Yes, they are. Wentz or Cam Newton?
Starting point is 00:34:04 I would go Cam. I have that decision to make, and it's very easy for me to go with Wentz or Cam Newton? I would go Cam. I have that decision to make, and it's very easy for me to go with Wentz. Okay. The Eagles running backs we talked about, so LeGarrette Blount we're going to like even more, and Corey Clement a decent sleeper this week. And then Alshon Jeffrey. He caught a touchdown last week. I think he's going to be a buy low if he struggles this week.
Starting point is 00:34:26 But Alshon Jeffrey, is he going to struggle this week? Are you sitting Alshon Jeffrey? Yep. I would try my darndest to. We're talking about a receiver who's caught half of his targets, getting maybe the toughest matchup on the board with Patrick Peterson expected to cover him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I just want to point out for Jeffrey long-term, he's kind of had a Des Bryant-like schedule. Josh Norman, Janoris Jenkins, now Patrick Peterson. Anybody in the NFC East is going to get that schedule. Yeah. So actually, I mean, he doesn't have great matchups at Carolina, then Washington, then San Francisco, then Denver. So there's some good, some bad there.
Starting point is 00:35:06 But, all right, we can talk about that on Tuesday. Starts at Ertz. And which DST do you like better in this game? Eagles was close. Eagles. Okay. Carolina is at Detroit. I think Detroit wins.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I definitely think Detroit wins. I think it's going to be – I think it could be a Detroit win too. But I think there could be six touchdowns in this game. Yeah? Five for Detroit and one for the Panthers. I don't think it's going to be five for Detroit. No, I think it could be like a 24-21 type finish. Here's your stat of the game.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Couldn't find a good one for fantasy, so I will tell you that according to DailyDetroit.com, Detroit is the only city in the U.S. where you can look south at Canada. It's true. It's pretty neat. Yep. All right, Cam Newton. Detroit's a good town. I know it gets a bad rap.
Starting point is 00:35:54 It's a good town. Big difference between Jamie and Dave here. Jamie's got Cam 15th. Heath has him 14th. Dave, you've got Cam. Last I checked, you had him 6th. Is that accurate? Sounds good. All right, so go ahead. Make the've got Cam. Last I checked, you had him sixth. Is that accurate? Sounds good.
Starting point is 00:36:06 All right, so go ahead. Make the case for Cam. I thought he improved last week. Ron Rivera backed that up by saying he had a great week in practice. I think the offense did some exciting things where they lined up a lot of 3x1, 4x1 sets, lots of spread formation type plays. Maybe this is part of the new wrinkle, the new offense that they wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And I think there's more than what they got last week. I wasn't as impressed with Kelvin Benjamin. Obviously, playing against the Patriots opened up a lot of stuff, but there wasn't a big impact in the game from Christian McCaffrey. There was a modest impact from Ed Dixon. And I think that the combination of enough weapons around Cam Newton, plus an inability to run the ball, plus Cam Newton running the ball more, he had career, or not career highs, but season highs in carries and yards.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I think it leads to him piling up some nice stats. And I checked out the Lions' defense. They're a good defense, but they're a beatable defense. Now they are doing well against quarterbacks. Palmer, 10 points. Eli Manning, 13 points. Matt Ryan, 17 points. Case Keenum, 8 points.
Starting point is 00:37:18 They've picked off a lot of passes. And maybe that's something that gives you pause with Cam because you know he's not the most accurate guy on the block. Good pressure on the opposing quarterbacks. Offensive line issues for the Panthers again. They survived it last week. They survived it last week against a team without a pass rush. This team has a pass rush.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And you're looking at the distraction that Cam is now dealing with. You know I talk about a good week of practice. I cannot imagine that he's had a good week of practice after everything that he's got to deal with. So I think it's going to be a terrible, terrible game for them. Second straight road game as well. It could be ugly, ugly, ugly for Cam Newton this week. I would stay as far away as you possibly can.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Okay, we'll see what happens. Differing opinions there. What about the Carolina running backs so far? I mean, actually, you look at the last two games, and Devontae Freeman and Dalvin Cook both averaged 5.1 yards per carry. Cook was certainly on his way to a big game. Freeman had a huge game against the Lions. What do you think about these guys, Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Stewart?
Starting point is 00:38:15 I like McCaffrey better. I think McCaffrey's part of the reason why I like him, because of his ability to catch the ball, make plays after the catch. He hasn't gotten going running the football. And I think until he shows it in limited touches or limited handoffs, I should say, it's just you've got to count on him as a pass catcher. And I think he's a matchup problem for the Lions. Okay, but are either of these guys starts or are they jambles?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah, McCaffrey's a number two running back. Even in standard or just PPR? Yeah, even in standard. I would say low end number two in standard just because he's had one good game so far this year. This is not going to be a great game for him. So PPR is clearly better. And that one good game for McCaffrey was without Kelvin, right? Was with the game when Kelvin got hurt.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Kelvin got hurt. But it's going to be a similar type of game script. They're going to be chasing points in this game, and you're going to see Cam having to dump off passes to him, with Slay taking Benjamin out of the game. So, LeGarrette Blount or... I wouldn't be surprised if they put Slay on Funchess. Funchess moves around too much.
Starting point is 00:39:17 LeGarrette Blount or McCaffrey? If Smallwood is out, I'll take him. I would, too. Even in PPR? No, not in PPR. Okay. Ellington. Well, I guess you're going Ellington over McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:39:32 All right, fair enough. How about Amir Abdullah or Christian McCaffrey? I'll take McCaffrey over Abdullah. I'll take McCaffrey over Ellington too. I like him a lot this week. I will take McCaffrey. You know what? I'm going to revisit that. I'm going to take Ellington over McCaffrey in PPR, and I will take Abdullah over McCaffrey over Ellington, too. I like him a lot this week. I will take McCaffrey. You know what? I'm going to revisit that.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I'm going to take Ellington over McCaffrey in PPR, and I will take Abdullah over McCaffrey in standard. Abdullah over McCaffrey in standard. No running back has scored double-digit fantasy points against the Panthers this season. Now, Ingram had 14 for 56 last week. Not terrible. Gillisley had 12 for 49. But, look, they have a good run defense.
Starting point is 00:40:04 This is another week where it might not be great for Amir Abdullah. Last week, not terrible. Gillisley had 12 for 49. But, look, they have a good run defense. It's another week where it might not be great for Amir Abdullah. Do you think he becomes the first running back with double-digit fantasy points against Carolina in standard scoring leagues? Yeah. No? I don't think so. No, but the question for me is really not as much about Abdullah. It's as much about McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:40:23 All right. So then we've got the Funchess-Benjamin combo here. Who do you like better, Funchess or Benjamin? Funchess. You do? Yeah. How come? You think Benjamin gets slay?
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah. That will shut him down. Calvin Benjamin does this thing where when he's got press coverage, he like flails one of his arms in the air like he's a third base coach in baseball. He can't escape press coverage. The guy's a beast and he can't get off the press coverage. Funches can. Funches has a little swiftness to his routes too.
Starting point is 00:41:01 All right, Funches or McCaffrey? I think I've got McCaffrey higher, so I'll say McCaffrey. Funchess. Funchess or Bilal Powell? Powell. Oh, yeah. Okay, Matthew Stafford or Carson Wentz? I have Stafford higher.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Stafford. Matthew Stafford or Carson Palmer? Palmer. I think I have Stafford higher. Stafford. Matthew Stafford or Carson Palmer? Palmer. I think I have Palmer higher. Stafford is 11th for Jamie, 10th for Dave, 12th for Heath. So he's an okay start. And Carolina will be without Kurt Coleman, their safety. That could really help.
Starting point is 00:41:36 So we shall see. Is Golden Tate the only wide receiver you're willing to start for the Detroit Lions? He's the only must start. And I think Marvin Jones is a sleeper. All right, Golden Tate or Funchess? Tate. Tate. Eric Ebron, you probably want to avoid him.
Starting point is 00:41:57 He's outside the top 15, although Dave has him 15th exactly in PPR. And then the DSDs are kind of interesting. You guys have them ranked similarly, but Detroit ahead. Detroit's 53% owned. They're the number two DST in fantasy. Carolina, 63% owned. Two great games and two bad games. The bad games were against New Orleans and New England.
Starting point is 00:42:17 But you guys prefer the Lions DST. And that's not a bad one to get. 53% owned for the Lions DST. Now, that's going to conclude Carolina and Detroit. We will go to the Chargers and the Giants in just a moment. But later today, I hope you guys are prepared. I actually have not set my FanDuel lineup yet. You guys are going to give some FanDuel lineups at the end of the show. And if you're not playing FanDuel, you're missing out on some fun fantasy football. Why would you do that? Fantasy football for everyday fans. New
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Starting point is 00:43:41 Which team gets their first win of the season? Giants Who's healthy for the Giants hosting the Chargers. Which team gets their first win of the season? Giants. Who's healthy for the Giants' defense? Yeah, I mean, Pierre Paul says he's going to play. Not sure about Vernon, but the bottom line is if they play, they're going to be playing hurt. So I'll take the Giants, though, in a close, crappy game.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Dave? I will also take the Giants. Stat of the game. I don't know if this makes much sense, so I'll try to explain it. Only Jacksonville allows more rushing yards per game than the – oh, this stat makes sense, actually. I thought – never mind. I got confused. Here's your stat of the game.
Starting point is 00:44:13 It makes sense. Only the Jaguars allow more rushing yards per game than the Chargers. They've allowed 80 or more rushing yards to a running back at all four games. We don't expect Paul Perkins. Is Wayne Gallman better than Amir Abdullah this week? I think there's a chance he could be better. I would take that chance. I'll still start Abdullah just based on the guaranteed touches,
Starting point is 00:44:35 but I could certainly see that happening, yes. Okay. Now these two teams see the most rush attempts in the NFL. Actually, they're in the top three, most rush attempts in the NFL. However, they are the bottom two teams in rush attempts per game. So we'll see what happens. They don't run it very often. Which quarterback do you like better, Rivers or Eli?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Eli. Oh, Eli. Are they both starts this week? No. I don't necessarily hate Rivers. If there's no Pierre Paul, there's no Olivier Vernon, so that pass rush isn't as strong, I think he could have a chance to be decent.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Rivers or Cutler? Rivers. Cutler. Okay, you actually guys both have them back-to-back, but Jamie has Rivers one spot ahead and Dave has... No, Jamie has Cutler one spot ahead and Dave has Rivers one spot ahead and Dave has – no, Jamie has Cutler one spot ahead and Dave has Rivers one spot ahead. But we'll start Rivers over McCown and Brissette and Hoyer, guys like that who have good matchups but aren't very good.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Okay, Melvin Gordon's a must start. Let's get him going. Give him the damn ball. Let him get a rhythm here. The Chargers wide receivers, everybody's going to start Keenan Allen, right? He'll be in the slot. He won't get shadowed by Janoris Jenkins. We're good with Keenan? Yes. What do you think about Tyrell Williams?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Because I had a feeling about him last week. I wish I had said it on the podcast. I said it on the radio show. But Eli Apple's been really, really disappointing this year. And I feel like Williams might be able to take advantage of that. Do you like Tyrell Williams this week? No.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I don't think you can trust him. Okay. That's the biggest problem I've got. So would you start Wayne Gallman or Tyrell Williams? I would start Wayne Gallman. What a world. What a world. Would you start Alan Hearns or Tyra Williams?
Starting point is 00:46:29 I would start Alan Hearns. Especially if Marquise Lee is out. Because that means his targets are going to be high, high, high. Who's your favorite tight end in this game? I have Henry. Or I think I have Ingram ranked the highest in this game. And it's followed by Henry and then Gates, but they're all up there. They're all top 12.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah, I don't know about Gates. Gates is a risk. Gates has run more routes than Hunter Henry. I think he has more targets than Hunter Henry, too. He doesn't really get... I mean, he has had five targets each of the last two games, Gates. If he gets five targets against the Giants, he's probably going to have a touchdown. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I put Gronk on the bench in a league where I don't have another tight end. We only run waivers twice a week. And so I'll put a bid in for Gates if he's the only one available to me. Well, Hunter Henry is only 68% owned. So, yeah, we're going to start him over a lot of guys. Would you start Hunter Henry or Austin Safarian Jenkins? Safarian Jenkins. I would start ASJ.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Would you start Antonio Gates or Ben Watson? I have Gates higher. Watson, but obviously that's contingent on him playing. Let's go to the Giants. Eli Manning, top 10 quarterback. Heath actually has him sixth. He's thrown 47 and 49 passes in his last two games. Actually, the Chargers have been very good against quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Simeon, if he took away his rushing touchdown, then nobody has even 20 fantasy points. But he had 25, Simeon, with the rushing touchdown against the Chargers. However, no quarterback has thrown more than 33 passes against the Chargers. That's going to change this week. Any Giants wide receivers other than Beckham? Shepard's in that number three receiver range. Shepard or Martavis Bryant? I'll take Bryant's upside.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Me too. Shepard or Sammy Watkins? Shepard. Evan Ingram. Yeah, okay, Evan Ingram He's a guy, start him Jamie's got him 6th, Dave has him 11th Dave has him 7th
Starting point is 00:48:31 How many? He had 11 last week Yep, very involved And the Giants DST is not a bad start They are 8th for Jamie, they are 7th for Dave They are 8th for Heath Giants or Lions? Lions I'll take the
Starting point is 00:48:47 Giants. Seattle at the Rams. Big game. Rams fans, get out there. Todd Gurley's calling you out. Come see the game. I don't have a great stat of the day of the game, but I know that Russell Wilson has
Starting point is 00:49:03 had a lot of trouble at the Rams kind of own the Seahawks at home games. We weren't sure if that would transfer over to Los Angeles, but it did last year. And Wilson scored only 11 points at the Rams last year. Do you worry about Russell Wilson's history on the road against the Rams? A little bit. I worry about it, but I don't think I'm benching him for it. Yeah. A little bit. I worry about it, but I don't think I'm benching him for it.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Not unless I've got supreme confidence in Deshaun Watson. I've got him ahead of Cam Newton. I think that you're going to see Russell Wilson have a fine game. He'll probably have a fine second half. He'll probably have a fine second half. Okay. He's had 70 fantasy points in his last two games, so start him over Eli and Watson and all those guys. He's top five, Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:49:49 How do you approach the Seattle running backs, guys? The Rams allow the most fantasy points per game to opposing running backs. Yeah, well, that's probably going to change after this week. Seattle is not going to have an easy time because of their own problems running the football. We don't know how explosive Rawls is at this point. We know how explosive Lacey is, which is not very. Who do you prefer? I think Rawls is going to get the first opportunity.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Rawls. But you'd start Ellington over Rawls? Yeah. You said over Rawls. Over Rawls. You'd start Gallman over him. Would you start Derrick Henry or Thomas Rawls? I'd go Raws. Overalls. You start Gallman over him. Would you start Derek Henry or Thomas Rawls? I'd go Rawls.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Rawls. Would you start Amari Cooper or Thomas Rawls? I'd start Rawls. Ellington. No, I didn't say that. I know what you said. Start or sit Doug Baldwin? I'd start Baldwin. No, I was just saying, just start or sit Doug Baldwin? I'd start Baldwin.
Starting point is 00:50:47 No, I was just saying, just start or sit Doug Baldwin. Jamie had to think about it. Okay. Is he a must-start, Doug Baldwin? Yes. All right. Dave's a little lower on him. He's got him 19th, but everybody's got Baldwin in their top 20.
Starting point is 00:51:01 And Heath and Jamie have him in the top 12. Any other Seattle wide receivers? Look at the wide receivers that have caught touchdowns against the Rams. And they face some very good number ones, and they've done pretty well, but Ryan Grant, Trent Taylor, and Bryce Butler have caught touchdowns against the Rams. Not Garcon,
Starting point is 00:51:18 not Dez, not Terrell Pryor, not T.Y. Hilton. Is there a chance for a sleeper wide receiver for Seattle? Yeah, but it's one of the two, which you don't know which one is going to be between Locke and Richardson. Richardson's had more success finding the end zone, but Locke's targets have been very good the last couple weeks. All right, if you had to pick one?
Starting point is 00:51:38 I would pick Richardson. I would too. So the Seahawks defense, by the way, Jimmy Graham you have to start. Top five tight end in both formats. Just come on, Jimmy Graham, get it going. Jimmy Graham or Charles Clay? Clay. Jimmy Graham or Safarian Jenkins?
Starting point is 00:51:53 I'll go Graham. Graham. All right. Jared Goff, you guys are not starting him. Seahawks have been good against quarterbacks, six fewest fantasy points. And Todd Gurley, look, Seahawks actually haven't been good against the run, but start Todd Gurley. He's fifth in both formats.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Which Rams receiver do you like better? I like... I think I have Cup higher than Watkins. I don't know if it's close. Now, let me make a case for Watkins. I feel like he's going to line up on the left side a lot, and Jeremy Lane may not play.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Do we have a status on him? We do not. I mean, he might get a backup cornerback, and that's, you know, maybe they... You've seen over the last couple of years where Sherman will travel from time to time, and this could be one of those games. I don't know. Depends on how comfortable the other cornerback is. Watkins hasn't warranted that.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Watkins hasn't warranted that. His talent still does. Yeah. His talent warrants it. And again, you look at that 49ers game. I mean, he dominated that game. But it's the only game he really dominated. It's the only game he got targets.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Well, and that's part of the problem with Sammy. Would you start Thomas Rawls or Cooper Cup? I'd start Cup. As a matter of fact, I have to make that decision because of Smallwood now. So I have Rawls and Cup on the bench in the PPR League, and I'm going to go Cup. Okay. Seattle DST is top three. Start them.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Just real quick on Eddie Lacy. What are your expectations for him? 10 to 12 carries if they're leading in the game. Who's a better flyer, Corey Clement or Eddie Lacy? I'm updating my rankings right now, and I still have Lacy higher, just because of the uncertainty. I haven't put Clement in yet. Let's be honest here.
Starting point is 00:53:43 The Rams' run defense has been terrible. I don't know if that's going to happen all year, but again, like I said, they get the most fantasy points allowed to running backs. Yep. It's a good opportunity for all. Or Lacey. Or McKissick. Lacey under alls.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Or Procise. Green Bay at Dallas. Never mind. Green Bay at Dallas. I got so excited because it has to happen. It has to happen. Do it. You know what's going to happen if you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:09 No, don't do it, Dave. I'm doing it. All right. Anyway, this is Green Bay at Dallas. I guess – I guess – I guess – Darren Rodgers. Dak could struggle. I don't know. Dak Rusk.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Who's going to struggle in this game? I'll tell you who could struggle. Well, everybody now. Devontae Adams could struggle. Devontae Adams has not done well this year, if he plays, first of all, has not done well this year with Randall Cobb healthy. I feel like the only time Devontae Adams really thrived was after Cobb got hurt and Jordy had already been hurt in the Falcons game.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Oh, this season? Yes, you're right. Yeah, this season. So, all right, Rodgers is the number one quarterback. Packers have been good against quarterbacks, I believe, this year, but you've got to start Dak. He's playing really well. He threw for 549 yards in the two games against them last year
Starting point is 00:55:03 when he could play off. Yeah. Six touchdowns, I believe. He scored 23 fantasy points in the two games against them last year when he could play off. Yeah. Six touchdowns, I believe. He scored 23 fantasy points in the regular season game, and he had a huge game in the postseason, which was one of the best games of the year. What a great game that was. Dez was amazing. And they played that game without Jordy Nelson, the Packers, and they won 34-31, and it was a bonanza.
Starting point is 00:55:19 That was the Jared Cook game. Now, not everybody's going to be good in this game, but I think we've talked about the Green Bay running backs a lot. If you want to just sum it up, where would Aaron Jones be? All right, if Tom Montgomery plays, he's all systems go, start him. Top 20 running back. Assuming there isn't a report that says, well, he's going to be limited or he'll be active but won't start. That's what they would say regardless.
Starting point is 00:55:42 What about the fact that Anthony Hitchens is going to play for the Cowboys and Sean Lee might be back as well? Sean Lee being back would certainly screw things up, but he's mispracticed now each of the last two days with the hamstring pump. All right, so stay away for one more game. Give me a bonanza, Sean Lee, and stay away. Where would Aaron Jones be ranked if Montgomery's out? Would you rank Aaron Jones ahead of Alex Collins?
Starting point is 00:56:05 No, not with Jamal Williams not playing. He's more in the, for me at least, in the Browns running back situation, Abdullah, McCaffrey. How about Mixon or Aaron Jones if Montgomery's out? I'd still take Mixon. Yeah. But I like Jones. I mean, I think there's a good opportunity for him here if Montgomery's out.
Starting point is 00:56:28 All right, but he more of a flex? No, I think he's the number two. Yeah, I think he's like a top 20, at least a flex. Dave, you like Frank Gore a lot this week. Would you have Frank Gore or Aaron Jones? I've got to move Gore up in my standard rankings, but I'll take Gore. Jordy Nelson must start. How about Cobb versus Adams?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Who do you like better if they both play? Cobb. Oh, yeah. Actually, that was my stat of the game. The receivers who have done well against the Cowboys have been Emmanuel Sanders, Larry Fitzgerald, and Cooper Cupp. So kind of slotty. Does that help for Cobb?
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yep. Yeah. And they've done really well, those guys. So Geronimo Allison, would you be interested in him if Devontae Adams does not play? 13% on. Deeply. DFS. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Start or sit Martellus Bennett? Sit if you can. He's due. But he's also do-do. Yeah, now so are Jermaine Gresham and Tyler Higby, but they both had their season high in yards against the Cowboys. It was only 47 yards for both of them. Definitely faced a good tight end, though. No, I mean Gresham had his season high for the season.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, no, but the Cowboys haven't really faced a good tight end. They haven't. Yeah, Bennett or Witten? Bennett. Iitten? Bennett. I'd go Bennett. All right, we don't like these tight ends too much. And anyone other than Des Bryant for the Cowboys in the passing game? No.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Nope. Geronimo Allison or Bryce Butler? Who's a better daily play? If Adams is out, Allison. If Adams is in, is he a must start? Depends on who else you have. So I would say not a must start, but he'll be in most lineups.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Adams or Isaiah Crowell? Sorry, Crowell or Adams? Adams. I'll take Adams, PPR, Crowell standard. Alright, let's go to our final game. Minnesota at Chicago. I think we can do this pretty quickly. Stat of the game, Jordan Howard had 337 total yards in two games against the Vikings last year. Any hesitation to start Howard against one of the best run defenses in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:58:36 allowing the second fewest fantasy points to running backs? What do you think? No. He's going to get lots of work, and that track record should help you feel confident starting him. Okay. So definitely Howard over a Packers running back? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Howard over a lot of running backs. The one I struggle with is Howard and Powell, but I think Powell's upside's a little bit better. Yeah, I put Powell a spot ahead. Who do you like better, Latavius Murray or Tariq Cohen? Murray. Murray. Last week was a little troubling
Starting point is 00:59:05 for Cohen seeing Benny Cunningham play nearly as many snaps. I think it was 18-16. And we're getting a quarterback change. Guys, I think the Benny Cunningham thing was the garbage time at the end. Am I wrong? But that's kind of where Cohen's been successful. No, I don't agree with that. He was great in week one. He was great in week
Starting point is 00:59:21 three. Those were two close games. I'm going to look it up for you. The week three game was overtime. He was successful in Week 1. He was great in Week 3. Those were two close games. I'm going to look it up for you. The Week 3 game was overtime. He was successful at overtime. Latavius. How much do you like Latavius? He's got a score. And the Bears, they actually allow the fifth-fewest rushing yards per game, but a rushing touchdown in all four games.
Starting point is 00:59:39 And that's what we're looking for. Yeah. Latavius or Abdullah? Latavius for me. Latavius for me. Latavius, yeah. You're right about that playing time. He only played five first-half snaps. Benny Cunningham?
Starting point is 00:59:54 Benny Cunningham did. Yeah, so 11 in the second half. And almost all on second and long, third, long. I would wonder how much was the fourth quarter. They got slaughtered in that game. First and 20. How many in the fourth quarter. They got slaughtered in that game. First and 20. How many in the fourth quarter? Seven.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Seven of 11 of the second half. Okay. And Wayne Gallman or Latavius Murray, guys? Murray. Murray. Yeah, I'm starting Murray in a couple leagues. You know he's not the great of a running back. Bears run defense has been good,
Starting point is 01:00:21 but you're just hoping for a touchdown here. How do you feel? Everybody's going to start Diggs. How do you feel? Everybody's going to start Diggs. How do you feel about Thielen? I still like him. What's not to like? He's been very good, especially Bradford's back. I don't care who his quarterback is.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I like him. And I think the weakness of that Bears defense is the secondary. McKinnon or Thielen? Thielen. Thielen. Start or sit Kyle Rudolph? Who's the quarterback? Changes if Bradford's back. Yeah, Bradford's back. I like Rudolph a lot. Feeling. Start or sit Kyle Rudolph? Who's the quarterback? It changes if Bradford's back.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah, if Bradford's back, I like Rudolph a lot. Okay, but if Bradford's not back, would you start Witten or Rudolph? I would still go Rudolph there, but Safarian Jenkins over Rudolph, Chargers tight ends, Evan Engram over Rudolph. I would have absolutely told people to start Dwayne Allen over Kyle Rudolph. I wouldn't have. I didn't. Rudolph done nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Seven fantasy points combined in three games with Chase Keenum. Yeah, but those are three with Keenum. Yeah, that's what I mean with Keenum. If Bradford plays, completely different story. He caught a touchdown in one game with Bradford. And then I guess let's just finish it off with Minnesota DST, top two defense. What do you expect from Tariq Cohen this week? Ten touches.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah, not worth starting. Okay. It's the year of the ten-touch running back. It's the year of the rookie running back. I stand by that. Amazing rookie running backs this year. Give me a FanDuel lineup, guys. My FanDuel lineup is an Eli Manning-Odell Beckham stack against the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I've got Le'Veon Bell, Bilal Powell as my running backs, T.Y. Hilton, and Marvin Jones. Jones is my sleeper with Beckham. I'm taking the chalk with Charles Clay, cheap price, $5,700. Jake Elliott is the kicker. Colts defense as my defense. Okay. Jamie. Trying to get sneaked.
Starting point is 01:02:11 FanDuel. Also going with Eli. I'm going with Jay Ajayi and Le'Veon Bell at running back. Devontae Parker, T.Y. Hilton, and Jordy Nelson at receiver. Hunter Henry at tight end. The great Harrison Butker at kicker. And the Giants TSD. Harrison Butker.
Starting point is 01:02:28 All right. I like it. Kick some Butker. And that's it for the show. We'll have a mailbag on Saturday. We're going to record it later today. Thanks for sending in all your emails, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Dave, Jamie, Adam, goodbye.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Bye. Bye.

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