Fantasy Football Today - 10/08 Fantasy Football Podcast: Week 5 Recap - Backfield Battles

Episode Date: October 9, 2017

Do we have new backfield leaders in GB, IND, NYJ, CLE and BAL? We sort it all out on today's show after we talk about the impact of Odell Beckham's injury (2:40) ... True or False with the aforementioned backfields, plus Cam Newton (6:00), Todd Gurley (14:00), Ben Roethlisberger (17:40) and more ... A round of "Does He Matter" with some of the pleasant surprises of Week 5 (34:16), and then we review every game (39:50) with Fantasy analysis on Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey, SEA RBs, Joe Mixon and more ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! If you still draft quarterbacks in round one, we're here to help. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Egan. All right, here we are, another Sunday night fantasy football podcast,

recapping all of Sunday's action for you here. I just had to Google it. It turns out that the New York Giants wide receivers coach name is Adam Henry. Adam Henry, you need to try ZipRecruiter. You should be hiring this week, and you can post your job to 100-plus job sites, including social media networks like Facebook and Twitter. Do it all with a single click. Try it for free. ZipRecruiter.com slash FFT.

ZipRecruiter.com slash FFT. I am Adam Azer. I got Heath Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg. Do you guys want to be a Giants wide receiver next week? You got to go to Denver. Is this as depressing a moment as it's been ever for the Giants? If they were good, maybe, but they're 0-5. Well, I mean the combination of being not good and losing Beckham.

Well, what about the combination of being a Giants fan and a Yankees fan, and the Yankees are about ready to get eliminated from the playoffs? We don't know that. There's no score right now, Heath. We don't know that. The likelihood is they're about ready to get eliminated from the playoffs. They're down 2-0. They lose tonight.

It's over. You could lose Odell Beckham, your football season, and your baseball season all on the same day. But the thing is, I don't have Odell Beckham on any fantasy teams. Now, that's the big news. None? None. How about you guys? Yeah, it's funny.

We play in that 2014 Office League, and I was 0-4, and I had a great week because I picked up Aaron Jones. And Beckham had a good day. Hunter Henry scored, and now it's all poop. So you're the Giants. Change your name. No, I won. Oh, you won. I won.

Okay, good for you. Off to Schneid. Tough to lose him in a 24-team league. Heath, you got a lot of Beckham? I don't have very much Beckham because I had A.J. Green ahead of him, so I drafted A.J. Green instead of him in a lot of places. Oh, right. We did that in the Heathden League.

I guess you're going to end up winning that bet. Congratulations. I feel awful about it. Not a bet, just a gentleman's bet, I guess. All right, so after the big news, we'll do some true or false, which is like nothing like buy or sell, not even close. We'll talk about Cam Newton. We'll talk about the Packers running backs.

We'll talk about the Rams struggling against the Seahawks. Is that going to be more of the same going forward with their tough schedule? We've got winners and losers. I'm going to ask these guys their favorite Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. And here we go. The big news. So Beckham broke his ankle and looks like he's headed for surgery. Sterling Shepard and Brandon Marshall left with ankle sprains.

Dwayne Harris broke his foot. Four wide receivers hurt in one game. Orleans Darkwa left with a cavitary. And Eli Manning, Jamie DeBoot had x-rays on his neck, but they were negative. Go ahead, what were you going to say? I said to the guys in the green room as they were watching the game, which of the Giants' cornerbacks is going to end up playing wide receiver for the day? And the odds-on favorite was Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

But also the odds-on favorite was he would never be able to remember a play. Well, they ended up using two tight ends and a wide receiver and Shane Vereen a lot at the end. It's ugly. Victor Cruz, reunion time. Ooh, baby. They're at Denver. I hope you didn't drop the Broncos defense.

My God. We got Eli Manning as a loser. He's one of Heat's losers it's goodbye eli manning right no chance yeah i wonder if eli's neck started hurting when he realized what he had left to throw to and that his season was over and he's like you know guys i'm not sure i can go anymore i mean is there an impact on this of this injury other than just goodbye Giants in fantasy? Oh, yeah. Done. I mean, you know, and the funny thing, it coincides with having their best rushing day.

You know, you had Darko had the good start. Wellman looked great almost every time he touched the ball. Yeah, he looks good, yeah. All for naught. And that could be a good thing for Marshawn Lynch next week because the Chargers really have a terrible run defense. But it's not even like if Sterling Shepard and Brandon Marshall are healthy, they're going to be good.

We saw what happened. They're probably going to be bad, you would think, right? I think if Shepard's healthy and gets to 100%, then he will have a good second half. Okay. Well, enough on them. They should just all sit out next week. There's no point.

And that's Sunday night football, so that's great. Monday night football is, I think, the Titans and the Colts, and that's not going to have Andrew Luck. Or Marcus Mariota. Yeah, hopefully him, but Luck is unlikely to play this month, according to Jason Lock and Fora. So how droppable is Andrew Luck, Heath? With all of the injuries that everybody has

and my assumption that you've got a lot of roster spots to fill, I would say he's a 6.5 on the droppometer. Okay, Derek Carr has a good chance to play next week. They have the Chargers coming up on the schedule. Matthew Stafford hurt his leg. We hope he's okay. He's at New Orleans next week. Bilal Powell actually wasn't even aware of it during the game.

I was like, what the heck? He's got no carries. He's got no work. He left with a calf injury, so I will ask you guys about Elijah McGuire soon. Devontae Parker left with an ankle injury. Charles Clay was carted off the field with a knee injury. And Terrence West left with a calf injury. Actually, Terrence West, believe it or not, got the first two carries of the game.

And he went for 17 yards. And then he left and did not play again. I hate to rave. Well, he got lucky there. I know I'll ask you about Javaris Allen soon. Javaris. Do we know anything about the severity of Powell, Parker, Clay, or Terrence West right now? Not to the extent.

You know, the fact that Clay was carted off, that Powell didn't come back in the game. West was carted off. So, assume missed time. Yeah, I would rank them, I was just guessing, Clay, West, Powell, Parker in terms of severity. Clay, West, Powell, Parker. All right.

Well, look, everybody's familiar with Buy or Sell, right? It's old. It's tired. It's just boring. True or false is really where it's at. So let's play some true or false. True or false, I'll let Jamie answer this. Adam and Heath should be banned from fantasy football for dropping Cam Newton in their shared league.

No. He was bad. False. Okay, good. We're still allowed to play. Then revised question. True or false? Cam Newton is back.

True. Yeah, true. We said it. And Jamie and I, like Dave was right on this one. But even when I was doubting him, we were saying, if he does it this week at Detroit, then I'll believe it. And he did it. Now, I don't know how often we're going to see Ed Dixon with 175 yards receiving, but he's better. I'll tell you what, as much as Cam has looked better,

he doesn't get enough credit, Mike Shula, for the game that he called last week against the Patriots and the game that he called today, the plays to get Ed Dixon open. I mean, there was two plays in the first quarter where Ed Dixon was 50 yards away from anybody else. Very impressive performance by the Panthers and a big, big win for them. I've got a theory about that. I think that the Lions' defense all week in practice, practices against Eric Ebron who can't catch. So they just assume that they don't need to cover tight ends. Yeah, well, they should have covered Darren Fels. That was the case in practice because he actually found the end zone.

Yeah, no kidding. Two drops, two drops, including one in the end zone for Eric Ebron today. Contested catches, but still not good. All right, true or false? Ty Montgomery, I'm borrowing this from a Jamie Eisenberg tweet. At Jamie Eisenberg, J-A-M-E-Y. I'm at Adam Azer, A-I-Z-E-R. Heath is at Heath Cummings Sr., Heath Cummings S-R.

And Dave is at Dave Richard. Ty Montgomery just got Wally pipped by Aaron Jones. True or false? I don't know if that's entirely accurate, but we had the conversation on the show this morning with Jason Lock and Fora that they may make the move to aaron jones if he comes out and plays well um and he came out and played great and so you know what montgomery has been and look i don't want to take anything away because he played he

he's been very good for fantasy but he's not a running back and you know we've had this conversation before i mentioned what uh john be you know, a former linebacker, said that when he takes hits, he doesn't take hits like a running back. He turns his body, doesn't lower his shoulder. He doesn't do the things that a typical running back does. And I think from the Packers' perspective, they might be better off with Jones as a first and second run between the tackles type of guy and Montgomery Moore as a change of pace, third down type of back.

I don't think it's Montgomery's never seen the field again, but I think at worst it's a 50-50 timeshare. Oh, this wasn't good. Heath, true or false, Ty Montgomery got Wally pipped? I'm going to say undecided, and I scoffed at it this morning, and I would definitely say it's more possible now. Let's see Aaron Jones do this a second week in a row. I think the one thing this almost guarantees is Ty Montgomery is not rushing back from this injury. I wouldn't be surprised if

we don't see him for a couple weeks. All right, the Packers get the road win, the best game of the day. Jones is 76% owned. Now, this was a good matchup for him, no doubt. They're at Minnesota next week, and that will be a little bit tougher. But Jones goes for 19 carries, 125 yards, and a touchdown with one catch on the game. And he's, as of now, before the Sunday night game, or that's in progress, the number three running back in fantasy for Week 5. True or false, Marlon Mack will take over as the primary ball carrier in Indianapolis. False.

False. Will it be a 50-50 timeshare? Is it going to become relevant? 60-40. For Gore? They've been giving the other guys work at times. I mean, go back to week one against the Rams. Mack had a very strong performance there in that game, too.

I think it's kind of game-specific game flow. And, yeah, I'll say it's still 70-30 for Gore. For Gore? All right. And it should also be noted that Robert Turbin got some goal line work, too. Mack is 22% only and nine carries for 91 yards and a touchdown. Frank Gore had two fumbles in this game, matching his total from last year. All right, true or false, Elijah McGuire will take over as the primary ball

carrier for the Jets. I will say true, but I'm not going to say when it's going to happen. No, it may happen next week by default. It may happen next week by default. At some point this season, though, I do believe Elijah McGuire will be the primary ball carrier. He will probably be the guy that I lead the way where I call him. He's got the Patriots next week. McGuire is 48% owned.

Didn't have a good game. I mean, he had 11 carries for 20 yards. But if he's the starter there, I mean, look, New England's defense, you could say they turned the corner too. And I don't think it's going to be pretty for him. But if he's the starter for maybe a couple weeks, how can you not buy into it? All right, how about this?

Duke Johnson, true or false, will take over as the primary ball carrier for Cleveland? False. False, but he's the best running over as the primary ball carrier for Cleveland? False. False, but he's the best running back fantasy-wise in Cleveland. That's obvious. Agreed, yes. But they don't want to give him 15 carries a game. I'll say this.

Bad calls on Jay Ajayi and Isaiah Crowell. How it unfolded, though, was exactly what I expected. Just in terms of the workload? The end result was bad, but getting the work and having the opportunities was what I was counting on. And Crowell had 16 carries. He hasn't had that all season. And Ajayi had over 20 carries. And they just didn't do anything with it that I thought they would do.

You have to wonder if the Browns trust Crowell's ability to stay healthy because he's electric. He's making plays every game. Now, it's just hard to rely on receiving touchdowns. You mean trust Duke's ability to stay healthy. What did I say? You said Crowell. Yes, sorry. He's not electric.

Trust Duke Johnson's ability to stay healthy. Well, the first part made a little sense. The electric part was pretty good. Yeah, you'll see. So Duke got six carries. He had three catches, 63 yards, and a touchdown. He just makes some really good plays. He was started in 51% of leagues. He Duke got six carries. He had three catches, 63 yards, and a touchdown. He just makes some really good plays. He was started in 51% of leagues.

He's 86% owned. True or false, Javaris? It's not Javorius. I know that. I actually looked up some pronunciation guides. It's said Javaris, Alan. A must-start running back going forward. Jamie, true or false?

If West is out, I'll say yes. But if not, I mean. You mean true? I don't know. The whole thing's just annoying. Alex Collins has another game where he's running the ball well, and they just don't go to him. I mean, look at the yards per carry between the two guys. Heath, true or false? This would be Javaris Allen, a must-start running back going forward. I'm going to buy it, Adam. Definitely 100% in PPR as a number two running back. And I still think he's a must-start as long as you have a flex in standard. And it's really weird. His yards per catch have been so awful the last couple of weeks.

But he's getting four, five, six catches every single game. Eventually, I think that will turn into more production there too. Allen had 21 carries. He's 66% owned, 73 yards and a touchdown. He did get more of the goal line work than the other running backs. Alex Collins is 51% owned. He had 12 carries for 55 yards. So, again, yes, Jamie, you're right.

The yards per carry better for Collins. He did not get the full workload. But he's a better player. He didn't fumble. Yeah, he probably is a better player. Honestly, I think at this point, and you could talk about Mike Wallace and Jerry McIlwain, I think he's their best player. Offensively, yeah.

Yes. Mike Wallace had a pretty good day today. He did. Mike Wallace had a great day today. He did. He's into does he matters. He jumped off the train too soon. That's two good games in a pretty good day today. He did. Mike Wallace had a great day today. He did. He's into does he matter. You feel bad you jumped off the train too soon? That's two good games in a row. It is.

I'm glad I could help him out. The funny thing is, of all people, you never jump off the bandwagon. He jumped. He had three pathetic games. I felt like I was dragging him down. I had to help him out. That's very unselfish of you, Heath. True or false, Todd Gurley is going to continue to struggle

during this upcoming tough stretch of games at Jacksonville, Arizona, by at the Giants. Not tough. Houston. It's funny how that game tilts once he fumbles. Yeah. Huge play. If he scores a touchdown, he has a good fantasy day.

Not a great one, but a good one. And the Rams may win that game. It's an eight-point swing because he fumbled instead of getting the touchdown. If you didn't see it, he's reaching the ball over the pylon. Earl Thomas knocks it out of his hands, out of bounds, into the end zone. That's a touch back. It was originally ruled a touchdown. But, Jamie, just to peek ahead at your winners and losers, you have the Rams as a loser.

What does that mean going forward for these guys? They obviously had a tough matchup with the Seahawks and struggled. Well, this is what we were talking about. They went through the cupcake part of their schedule and everything looked great. Goff is looking like a potential Hall of Fame quarterback. Gurley is a monster. You're having production at times from different wide receivers. And then they got to face a tough defense, and it was a struggle. And so you just wonder if they are not as great as they showed. I don't want to get away from Gurley again. You know, scores a touchdown, different story, but clearly they're not going to be this offensive

juggernaut. They'll still be good. They'll have good moments, but you have to be a little bit concerned if you were buying all in on the Rams. Okay. have good moments, but you have to be a little bit concerned if you were buying all in on the Rams. Okay. And true or false, the Giants have found themselves a fantasy-relevant running back in Wayne Gallman. Again, by default.

Yeah. I'm going to say false. I'm going to say false, too. I think the offense may be too bad to have a fantasy-relevant running back. Like I've been saying, it's Broncos, Seahawks, bye week. But you probably all saw it, and I watched the game. Wayne Goldman looks like he's a good player. They might have something there in the future. I don't know about the next month.

But he looks really good. He looks impressive. Sure, but to Heath's point about Shepard in the second half, if Shepard and Marshall get healthy, it's not Beckham, clearly. But if they can develop Ingram over the next couple of games, and that trio can help sustain the passing game. Once they get past Denver and Seattle and come out of their bye week, if they're healthy, the Rams' run defense has not been good. The 49ers may be down Bowman. He got hurt today.

We know what that has been like for them over the last couple of years, and they got exposed a little bit today. Then Kansas City, not easy, but Washington, Oakland, who knows? I mean, I think Goldman could have some still second-half value as well. Yeah. We also need to mention that Arlen's Darkwood did start and did, you know, he played well, and they don't ever let, like, one guy go. We've got some IDP news, Adam.

Can we break in with some IDP news? Yeah, hit me. JJ Watt has been helped off the field. Speculation that it's an ACL. No. Are you kidding me? No. Oh, God.

All right, let's finish up true or false. That's IDP news. That's everything news. That's huge. I mean, that's crushing. Wow. True or false here, let's just do a real quick analysis. Devin Funchess will be the best Panthers wide receiver

rest of season. False. I'll say true. Why not? They're both the same guy. Alshon Jeffries still has a chance to have a great year. True. Everybody has a chance.

Yeah, define great. I think true. Wide receiver two top top top 15 ish true true tough schedule because of the ish part okay uh just just as we got finished talking about i don't know if you saw the the tweet from adam shepherd that shepherd could be two weeks okay uh buyer sell or true or false not Not buy or sell. True or false. Ben Roethlisberger is now just like Philip Rivers and Eli Manning. He's kind of washed up. Bye.

I heard a true and a bye. You guys think that's the case? I mean, he said it himself. He said it. It's one thing if you read the quote. It's another thing if you hear it. It seemed like he was just like, I don't know. Maybe I'm just done. Listen. I don't think he said it it's one thing if you read the quote it's another thing if you hear it it seemed like he was just like i don't know maybe i'm just done listen i don't think he did not it's not really that hard to believe that he didn't want to play football very much this year

and he's not he's playing poorly very poorly right now he isn't getting along with his teammates very well. I don't think his head's in it. I don't think his heart's in it. Interesting. All right, Roethlisberger with five interceptions today, two fantasy points at home against the Jaguars. That game played out nothing like I thought it would, 30-9 the final score. Yeah, go ahead.

Whiffed. Yeah. I mean, you and I, Jamie, thought the Steelers were going to run away with it instead. And I didn't think Fournette was going to have that great of a game. He had a 90-yard touchdown run. My God. Yeah, he's good. He's now, every time he stepped on the field for an NFL game, preseason or pro, or regular,

he scored a touchdown. What? Really? He has scored a touchdown in every game he's played, preseason or regular season. One preseason and four regular. Oh, in the NFL has scored a touchdown in every game he's played. Preseason or regular season. One preseason. Oh, in the NFL. Okay, not in college. He leapt into the end zone from the four-yard line. It was amazing.

I don't know if you're old enough to remember, but it reminded me of Walter Payton. I am not old enough to remember. Who is Walter Payton? That was his signature move. I'm just kidding. I know Walter Payton. Carson Wentz is a blossoming superstar. Sell.

Buy. Really? You're buying it? Jamie? Yeah. I mean, look, he's playing great this year. He's awesome. I think he's the best quarterback in Pennsylvania.

You'd rather have Winston Roethlisberger as a season? 100%. Yeah. Yeah? Okay. True or false? The second half schedule for Pittsburgh is going to be so nice. True or false? Predator is the best Arnold movie.

No. False. Twins. Twins is really good. I'm going to have to go with Kindergarten Cop. What the hell are you guys talking about? Are you going with Junior next? Junior is probably third. Okay. You've made a mockery of this segment.

The correct answer is false. Terminator 2, Predator is the second best Arnold movie behind Terminator 2. Let's do winners and losers. We've actually kind of done most of them. Winner number one for Jamie is Aaron Jones. Terminator 2, Predator is the second best Arnold movie behind Terminator 2. Let's do winners and losers. We've actually kind of done most of them. Winner number one for Jamie is Aaron Jones, 76% owned, 125 yards and a touchdown, rushing against the Cowboys, and we'll have the Vikings next week. Winner number two is any tight end against the Cleveland Browns, Jamie.

It continues. I mean, it's, you know, Saveria Jakes is going to have a great game, but he's going to finish as a top 10 tight end. And it just goes and goes and goes and goes for everybody not named Jack Doyle. Yeah, but, I mean, how can you spotlight tight ends against the Browns when you could have spotlighted tight ends against the Giants?

Like, holy cow! Same thing. Yeah. And next week, the Broncos face the Giants. I don't know that you're going to go for Derby. A.J. Same thing. Yeah. And next week, the Broncos face the Giants. I don't know that you're going to go for Derby. AJ Derby. And Ryan Griffin against the Browns. No, Ryan Griffin could be great. Could be.

Ryan Griffin will be a top-ten tight end next week. Heath, your winners, Buck Allen. I don't know if you want to expand on that. And Cam Newton, who gets the Eagles next week and then at the Bears. I'm sorry. I know I kind of stole your thunder. We did it in true or false. Do you want to talk about Allen or Cam?

I think we've already said everything we need to say about them. The fact that Allen got 21 carries in this game, I already felt like he was going to be semi-startable because of his work in the passing game if he gets anywhere close to this workload in the running game. And it wasn't just that. It was that every time they got inside the 10-yard line, from what I saw, he was the only running back on the field.

I don't know if Collins got a snap inside the 10. No, and again, you're right on everything you're saying. They're just dumb. Well, I think it's the fumble thing. If Collins can prove that he can't fumble, then maybe he starts to get more than 12 carries. I would still stash him, though. I agree with Heath.

Allen's the one. If you have to pick one, Allen's the one to own right now. But if you could stash, Alex Collins would still do it. Yep. Okay. And on to the losers in just a second. But employers, managers, Giants wide receivers coach, anyone that's looking to make a hire, go to ZipRecruiter.com slash FFT right now.

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Eli Manning is a loser. That's obvious. We talked about that. This was a weird one, Heath. Carlos Hyde, dreadful game at the Colts. 18 total yards. Matt Breida was better, had more carries. What do you make of this?

Yeah, I had one of these, and this happens sometimes on Sundays with so many different things going on, and I'm watching different games. And I had this panic attack when I looked at the box score and thought maybe Carlos Hyde got hurt, and I didn't notice it. So I went and searched Twitter, and it's all just people asking, where is Carlos Hyde? And then saw after the game, Kyle Shanahan said, we went with the hot hand, which is just absolutely awful. Now, the Colts have been a good run defense this year.

I don't think there's anything to say other than that. They have been very good against the run. So I'm not ready to bury Carlos Hyde, but this is very bad news. You know, the funny thing is, is that there was a story before Sunday about the 49ers extending Carlos Hyde, and this does not help that cause from his perspective.

There was, I think, I thought Dave said when we were watching the game that he saw something that maybe his hip was bothering him or he heard something when he was listening to the broadcast. So there may have been, you know, his hip situation. But he did get, when they were in the red zone, he was on the field and got the carries there in the second half. So that's something I think if there's a positive from it. The other part of that, though, to what you said, Heath, it's a shame that they don't have Andrew Luck. Because their defense has actually played much better than I think a lot of people expected.

They could have easily been in the mix, and they still might be playoff-wise, but they could have easily been in the mix given how their defense has played for the first time really in a long time to potentially match what their offense could have been. They had a good offseason. They did some good things. And actually, we talked about Bilal Powell because there were similar situations. Where's Bilal Powell? He actually was hurt, unlike Carlos Hyde. The Browns have had a good run defense too. It's not that easy to run on the Browns. I think they give up touchdowns, but they don't give up a lot of yards per carry. All right, so Eli Manning and Carlos Hyde are losers for Heath.

Jamie's losers, Big Ben and the Rams. Anything you want to say expanding? You could talk about Sammy Watkins. Cooper Cupp actually almost had a big game. He dropped what should have been the game winning touchdown uh yeah he catches that the rams won the game and i think we're looking at cooper cup as as three of five games with you know very good fantasy production so it this sammy walkins thing is just the most puzzling thing ever why do you trade for the guy and don't use him now i know richard sherman from what i look like

i didn't watch the whole game uh, but it looked like he followed him. He definitely moved from the right side to the left side with him and traveled with him, which makes sense. But this is just awful. I mean, give the guy a chance. You saw it in the 49ers game. Put the ball in his vicinity and let's see if he can make a play. Is he droppable, Sammy Watkins?

Yeah. With the schedule, yeah, I have to factor that in. I have him in a 10-team league, and I just lost Beckham. I started Will Fuller over him today. That's where I'm at. Yeah, man. Heath, you want to expand on that? I'm sorry.

I don't think I—I feel the same way about Sammy Watkins as I do about Amari Cooper right now, in that I just can't drop them yet. I feel the same way about Sammy Watkins as I do about Amari Cooper right now, in that I just can't drop them yet. But don't you think with Cooper, there's at least the hope of Derek Carr coming back? What's the hope with Watkins? Well, the difference is, I guess, Cooper's still getting the throws. He just can't catch a damn thing. Sammy Watkins, my hope is they throw the ball to him at some point.

Maybe Jared Goff, I speculated this on Twitter, maybe he plays in a lot of different fantasy leagues and he's played against Sammy Watkins in four of the first five weeks of the season. I just look at it right now, Robert Woods, look, he's playing okay. He's just not a good fantasy receiver. Kopp has played okay. You're starting to see the last couple weeks, he could come along

like we thought, maybe he had a shot. And you know what, Gurley's been out of the backfield. It's just like Cup is allergic to Sammy Watkins. And the other thing, the thought that I had, guys, was I looked at Sammy Watkins struggling on the outset of the season, and I looked at Sheldon Richardson. I don't know how he personally was doing, but the Seahawks' run defense being a little underwhelming. And I think to myself, you don't see preseason trades that often. And maybe it just takes time for these guys to learn the systems to fit in.

And maybe that's part of it, holding back Sammy Watkins. He didn't have a training camp with them, you know? He was thrown into the fire. Well, even in Sammy's good game, there were at least two times I noticed where he was checking with Cooper Cup to see what he was supposed to be doing. He did that on the final play, final drive today. He was like, he's shrugging his shoulders like, I don't know what you're calling it. Maybe he just didn't hear it

because they don't have a home field advantage. He just was like, I don't know what's happening. At this point, I think if you lost, like in my situation, I lost Beckham. I'm not comfortable with Sammy Watkins. And again, it's a 10-team league, so I'll have a little bit more options.

But I may be dropping both guys, Beckham and Watkins, to pick up two or three guys. And I'll tell you what, just while we're on it, the same game, Doug Baldwin stinks. Oh, you see that? Okay, all right. You know what? Let's do an impromptu segment here, right? Let's do the buy low O-meter. I'll give you four wide receivers.

Doug Baldwin, Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffrey, and Amari Cooper. I want you to rank them so it's more like the buy low O list. Rank those four on who you'd be most willing to buy low on. Doug Baldwin, Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffrey, and Amari Cooper. Baldwin's still first, but he just stinks. He is first, Alshon second, Cooper's third, and Watkins is last. Like I said, I'm not dropping Cooper or Watkins, but I've said it for the last couple weeks, and I'm done making buy low offers on those guys.

Yeah, I think it's funny because I'll throw Terrell Pryor and Jamison Crowder in there too because they've been terrible. And even maybe Demaryius Thomas. You look at his production, it hasn't exactly been great. That group of receivers that we were like, I think they have a shot, but I'm not really sure, they haven't played well at all. And I guess it's not fair to put Devontae Parker in there because he got hurt because otherwise he's been okay.

But it's been a little bit rough with that group of receivers that we thought on draft day, that third, fourth, fifth round type of guys. It just hasn't been delivered. Yeah, you're right. But you know what? I mean, the elite receivers have been awesome. Unfortunately, we lost one today in Beckham. Yeah.

But I don't know. Maybe it puts more value in those guys. It was nice to see Devontae Adams shining today. Which, speaking of that, have we talked about the Jordy Nelson situation? No. I forgot to put that in the notes. I'm so sorry. They announced after the game that there was no injury.

Okay, so he was out on the sideline on the final drive of the game. There is no information to this other than what I saw with my eyes. I wonder if he was sick. He did not. It happened once earlier in the game, too, on a pass that went to him and they showed kind of a close-up of his face. He did not look like Jordy Nelson

to me. They said in the broadcast that maybe his back could have been in pain. His face was almost white. Yep. Okay. Well, Jordy Nelson, at least he did catch a touchdown. But yeah. That's all he does. That is, absolutely.

I just Twitter searched Jordy Nelson and somebody wrote, retweet if Jordy Nelson is killing you. That's a little mean, everybody. Alright, news and notes. Teddy Bridgewater slated to come off the pup list after week six, which would give him, after week six, three weeks to return to the team. Be interesting to see what they do there.

Sam Bradford might play tomorrow or tonight, depending on when you're listening, on Monday Night Football. We'll keep an eye on that. Mike Williams for the Chargers. He will be back next week, according to reports, as they face the Raiders on the road. Yeah, that could be a guy that you look at. I don't know what to expect from him.

I'm assuming you saw Schefter's earlier report. Yes. And there was a second one that he said that it doesn't sound likely that he's going to be back. Okay, thank you. Miles Garrett is 39% owned for you IDP League owners. Miles Garrett had two sacks today in his NFL debut against the Jets.

Cleveland could go to Kevin Hogan at quarterback next week. He actually scored like 20 fantasy points in a half. I don't know if he played well, but he scored 20 fantasy points. Green Bay lost quarterback Kevin King to a concussion early in the game. Baltimore's guard, Matt Skura, he hurt his knee. He's the guy who's replacing Marshall Yonda, so they could be on their third-string right guard. Detroit defensive tackle, Haloti Nada, missed the second half with an elbow injury.

They're at New Orleans next week. Kind of a big one here. I don't know. It won't hurt as much this year as it did last year because, you know, Wentz is just better, but Lane Johnson left with a concussion, and they've got a short week. They've got a Thursday night game at Carolina, but the Eagles were just awful without Lane Johnson left with a concussion. And they've got a short week. They've got a Thursday night game at Carolina. But the Eagles were just awful without Lane Johnson last year,

and they were like 4-2 or 5-1 with them. Almost all their wins. Cincinnati lost both its starting corners. Adam Jones and Drake Kirkpatrick, luckily for them, they're going into a bye. Tennessee left tackle Taylor LeJuan left with a knee injury. They have a Monday night game next week against Indianapolis. Almost touchdowns. Nobody cares about this segment except for me.

This needs its own theme music. These are some players that almost caught touchdowns. Eric Ebron had a pass, knocked away from him in the end zone. George Kittle. George Kittle did catch a touchdown, right? Yes. But he almost caught another one, but he was out of bounds. Eli Manning overthrew Odell Beckham for what would have been a very long touchdown.

Later in that same game, Phillip Rivers barely overthrew Travis Benjamin. He probably should have had it. It should have been about a 30-yard touchdown. LeGarrette Blount. Oh, LeGarrette Blount is my bold prediction that he was going to have a huge game. He had a touchdown callback and a holding call and didn't get enough work. Still had a decent game, He had a touchdown callback and a holding call and didn't get enough work. Still had a decent game. I think 74 yards. Todd Gurley

had the touchdown reversed. Not just called back, but reversed to a fumble and a touchback. And Cooper Cup, you blew it for the Rams. Should have caught the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds. Let's play a game. Very fun. Nick Costas and Pete Frisco both had different

sides of that game. And watching their reactions on that play was hysterical. Who had what? Nick had the Rams. I had the Seahawks, actually. Yeah, I had the Seahawks. I had 3-0. I had the Seahawks as dogs. I had the Jets minus two, and I took the Packers on the money line,

and I got the Bonanza right. So big week for Azar. Also, forget them. Forget them. Miami FF2, my man. That's what it's all about. Oh, that's right. Congratulations. Thank you. That's huge. I wore the lucky MeUndies underwear, so it worked. Alright, here's

a game called Does He Matter? Nelson Aguilar, 26% owned. Does he matter? He matters whenever Alshon Jeffrey is facing a shutdown corner that he is going to get shut down by, yes. All right. So at Carolina on Thursday, Nelson Aguilar, is he going to be a priority for you? Not really, no. I'm a little bit worried about Carson Wentz next week.

You're worried about Wentz. Jamie says if you lost Beckham, keep an eye on Aguilar. J.J. Nelson, 65% owned. Does he matter? It's the as the Cardinals wide receivers turn. This was Nelson's turn. Yeah, he was their leading receiver.

He didn't catch the touchdown. That was John Brown. But Nelson led them. It's going to be a little unpredictable. Nelson had an almost touchdown. He did? Yep. That's it. Thank you. almost touchdown. He did? Yep. Didn't see it. Thank you. Slacking. Cole Beasley, 39% owned, which really did not deserve that ownership,

but he caught four passes for 23 yards and two touchdowns against the Packers. Does Cole Beasley matter? Not going into their bye week. Mike Wallace, 47% owned. Does he matter? Oh, yeah. I think he was fourth on the team in targets, but

this is what he is. Every now and then he'll pop up with these type of games. It's two weeks in a row. The week you finally start him, he'll disappoint you, but it's the Bears next week. Why not? And it's the Bears at home. The Bears in Chicago have had a really good defense. On the road, they haven't. So it's the Bears at home. The Bears in Chicago have had a really good defense. On the road, they haven't.

So it's the Bears in Baltimore next week. How about Marquise Goodwin? Five catches, 116 yards on 11 targets at the Colts for the 49ers. Goodwin is 3% owned. Does he matter? It's two of the last three games that he's played well, and it's two of the last three games that Hoyer's played well. So clearly there's a correlation that if you're going to buy into Hoyer,

you're buying a good one. Yeah, I would put him – I think I'd put him ahead of Aguilar. All right, so that's – Not ahead of alcohol, though. You like alcohol. I like alcohol a lot more than I like Marquis Goodwin. There you go. That's a good win. George Kittle, 1% owned, seven catches, 83 yards,

and a touchdown on nine targets at Indianapolis. Kittle, does he matter? Yes, in a deeper league. I'd rather have George Kittle than Ed Dixon. Really? Yep. Okay. Really?

Yeah. All right. David Njoku, 9% owned, does he matter? Okay Really? Yeah Alright David Njoku, 9% owned, does he matter? This is what, three touchdowns in five games? Yeah, but never a lot of catches Three targets in this game First game with more than 27 yards He had 48 yards and a touchdown

David Njoku Pretty great catch I think he matters less than Kittle though Wow Yeah, he's just touchdown dependent Okay He's a pretty great catch. I think he matters less than Kittle, though. Wow. Yeah, he's just touchdown dependent. Okay. But the one thing is, though, we said it when he was drafted. He's going to start to work into more and more of a role.

And think about what this receiving core is. Kenny Britt didn't play today, so hopefully he continues to build off this. I don't have a problem if you have a deep roster to take him as second tenant. David Njoku, okay. Speaking of which, though, I don't know, maybe even more relevant. As you mentioned, Kenny Britt didn't play. The guy who has led the Browns in receiving two weeks in a row is unowned. He's 0% owned. He's Ricardo Lewis. He had five catches for 71 yards this week.

He had five catches for 64 yards last week. Obviously, we're talking deep leagues here, but, you know, Lewis or Goodwin? I'll take Lewis. I think I'll take Goodwin, but I don't feel strongly about it. All right, well, look, if you're in a deeper league and you're desperate, Ricardo Lewis, Marquise Goodwin, Nelson Aguilar, these are guys to have on your radars. And I need, do you guys think I'll get eight fantasy points

and half PPR from Kareem Hunt? No. Would you like a update? Kareem Hunt has ten carries for nine yards in this game. And the Chiefs lead six to zero

in the second quarter. Have you seen the Chiefs game, Heath? I know you have. He's clearly going to rip off a 50-yard touchdown in the fourth quarter. That's possible. All I need is eight measly points from Kareem Hunt, and I will once again defeat dedicated listener Scott Sheriff on draft.

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Green Bay 35, Dallas 31. Of course, if Jordy Nelson has an injury, I will get blamed for that. But you know what? You got a lot of production in this game from the guys you started. Three straight weeks, right around 30 fantasy points for Aaron Rodgers. Dak Prescott. I know he's got to buy next week, but, man, we were just waiting for him to get done with that tough schedule, and he's been so good for three straight weeks.

Is Dak Prescott, hmm, is he better than Russell Wilson going forward? Yes. I was going to say that I think I would put him right behind Wilson at fifth. At fifth. All right, so we got Rodgers, Brady, Breeze, Wilson, Dak for you? I think that's correct. And do you both have Dak ahead of Cam Newton going forward? Yeah, I'll take Dak fourth.

All right. We love Dak. Dak is great. One of my big regrets this year will be bidding $8 for a free agent Dak Prescott in the Podcast League when Heath Cummings swooped in and got him for $9. I was quite upset about that.

That was some very good bidding on my part. I am playing a team in that league this week that has an illegal lineup, so I think I win. That sucks. I hope you're having a good week and it wouldn't have mattered. Not particularly.

I am one of the lowest scoring teams in the league. Come on now. I had my first loss in the podcast league this week. Well, it wasn't to me. I'm sorry jamie that's it's a shame sorry i'll take four and one yeah four and one's good i don't know how i'm doing in the podcast league any other thoughts on this game uh adam you are losing and you will be one in four shortly wow david johnson everybody um i have no other thoughts on this game. You know what?

I like my podcast league team a lot. Actually, I'm not even sure this was one of my David Johnson. No, this wasn't a David Johnson team. I'm wrong. I got A.J. Green, Brandon Cooks, Ty Montgomery, Amir Abdullah. I got a good team. I got Devontae Parker. Quarterback killed me.

I think that was an Andrew Luck team maybe. I don't know. You definitely have two wide receivers. And Ty Montgomery. And I lost week one. Damn it, by one point. One and four? Son of a.

All right, no more thoughts on this game. The stars were shining. One interesting note, Troy Aikman said that the Cowboys officials think that Ezekiel Elliott has been affected by all the off-field stuff by waiting to find out if he's going to be suspended. Maybe that's why he's been good, but not great. Cincinnati 20 and Buffalo

16. How about Joe Mixon getting the touchdown? Jamie, are you excited? 15 for 51 on a touchdown. Not great, but what do you think going forward? They have a bye coming up. Yeah, I mean, it's not what you would have liked to see for the majority of the season so far,

but this is now three straight games with at least 15 carries. They win a game that they needed to win, and you hope that they know what their formula is, which is A.J. Green and Joe Mixon as their two best players. All right, Heath, I'm going to give you running backs, and you tell me if you'd rather have them or LaShawn McCoy, who entered the game averaging 3.2 yards per carry and basically averaged 3.2 yards per carry,

but he did have, let's see, 89 total yards and a fumble. Has not scored a touchdown in five games. That's unbelievable. Would you rather have – let's go easy to hard. Le'Veon Bell. Le'Veon Bell, I would rather have him. Ezekiel Elliott. I would rather have Ezekiel Elliott.

Leonard Fournette. I would rather have Leonard Fournette. Melvin Gordon. I would rather have Melvin Gordon. Doug Martin or LeSean Gordon. I would rather have Melvin Gordon. Doug Martin or LeSean McCoy. I would rather have LeSean McCoy. Aaron Jones. No.

I would rather have LeSean McCoy. Am I forgetting anyone here? Jay Ajayi. I've got to take McCoy over Ajayi. Yes, for sure. Gurley. Gurley, yes. Gurley or McCoy.

I would rather have LeSean McCoy. Jamieayi. Yes, for sure. Gurley. Gurley, yes. Gurley or McCoy? I would rather have LaShawn McCoy. Jamie, any disagreements here? I don't remember everyone specifically. Sorry. He said he'd take Melvin Gordon and Leonard Fournette over LaShawn McCoy. Yeah, you have to at this point. Wow, okay. But I would definitely take McCoy over Mixon.

All right. I think this might be an opportunity with as bad as their offensive line is and as inefficient as the running game has been, I think this might be an opportunity after he just scored a touchdown to see if you could sell Joe Mixon. Okay, yeah, it could be. All right, there you go. That's Cincinnati Buffalo. A.J. Green, 189 yards

And was responsible for three turnovers in the game, by the way Two picks went off his hand and he fumbled But he's awesome Philadelphia 34, Arizona 7 The time of possession very lopsided About 11 more minutes of possession for Philadelphia Are you guys done with Carson Palmer? Next week he's home against Tampa Bay.

No, I'm not done with him. It wasn't bad in this game. He's just not playing well. But he throws it so much. I agree with me. He's got an awful offensive line. Well, whether it's his fault or not, he's not really playing well. He has to scratch and claw for 20 fantasy points, and he didn't get that today.

Look, at some point he's going to get hit too many times in the game. We saw it last year. He suffered a concussion. He's old. So his arm is going to have some fatigue. Remember the preseason? It was we don't want to overwork him too much. Yeah.

And all they're doing is overworking him because they don't really have a choice. I hope they're going to get some help on the offensive line, especially if DJ Humphries comes back soon. But they're so predictable. You'd like to think that just mathematically, if they keep throwing the ball this much, that he's going to have more touchdowns. Who's your second favorite Cardinals wide receiver? Andre Ellington?

Yeah, I will say John Brown whenever he's active. How about, is Andre Ellington worth starting in standard scoring leagues going forward, or is he only a PPR guy? No, he's PPR only. I mean, you know, he's James White. Yeah. That's the same guy. It's pretty nice, though. It's a lot of

catches now. It's two straight games with nine catches for Ellington. He went into the half. It might have been the last drive of the second quarter for them or the last couple drives. He had no touches. Then all of a sudden, he had three catches going in halftime, six in the second half. How good do you guys feel about LeGarrette Blount

going forward? Good. Yeah, low end number two. I would also put him in the sell high category just because, you know, older running back getting, you know, work and he still runs to contact. Sure does. And do you care about Torrey Smith? No.

No. Seattle 16, Rams 10. You know, it's not a huge surprise that Seattle didn't do much offensively. They never do when they're at the Rams. It doesn't matter which city that is. The best thing about that game was in the Rams' final

drive is Russell Wilson quieting the crowd. He did? Oh, because there were so many Seahawks fans there? He was quieting the crowd because the Rams because there were so many seahawks fans there he was quieting the crowd because the rams have no home field advantage oh wait or jared goff was quieting the crowd or wilson no russell wilson was quieting the crowd from the sideline why would he do why would he quiet them i'm sorry he was telling the crowd to be noisy okay okay excuse me um which okay running seattle running backs, go. Discuss.

No. They don't have one. Oh, boy. So are they both waiver wire guys? I'll still stash Rawls. Um, you know, he got, at least from what I saw, the more important carries. Um, and he was on in some passing down situations. He had, uh, three targets in the game, which was two less than McKissick.

McKissick had five. Lacy had one. The touches were even. Otherwise, carry-wise, it was nine carries for Lacy, eight for Rawls. I still think there's more upside with Rawls, but we had the report before the game that Lacy was going to be the starter. I still think Rawls will eventually end up being the guy. Jimmy Graham or Jordan Reed, rest of season? Graham. Graham. Carolina 27, Detroit 24. Let me go real quick back to that game. Does Tyler Higbee matter to you?

Four catches for 98 yards. Yeah, he's been more involved lately. Okay. Yeah, he had six targets in week four. He had eight targets in week five. That's Rams tight end Tyler Higbee. He'll be in the waiver wire show. Is that as many targets

as Sammy Watkins had all season? Eight? If you take away the San Francisco game, probably. No, but if you take away the San Francisco game, is it? Yes. I mean, it's probably close. Carolina 27, Detroit 24, and another lopsided game of time of possession.

About 11 more. Ten and a half minutes. Eh, ten minutes more. No, 11 minutes more for Carolina. Who cares? How confident are you in Christian McCaffrey going forward? He got in the end zone. He scored on the shovel pass. Not very confident. No, he's a low-end number two.

I mean, through the buys, he's probably going to be a number two in both formats. But the way I really feel about him is low-end number two in PPR and flex and standard. Yeah, I would say the same thing. Barely a flex and standard at this point. I mean, if he doesn't catch a touchdown, which he hasn't found the end zone. What's his second touchdown of the season? Yeah.

He had 38 total yards. Yeah, and not enough touches. They just won't give him carries. No, very creative play call to get him in the end zone. I believe there was an offensive lineman illegally downfield by definition. Oh, really? But great play call. And you'd like to see them continue to be creative with him.

But Jonathan Stewart is too much of a factor right now. Tell me about Golden Tate, guys. I guess the offense in general. They've had a tough schedule to start the year. They got New Orleans next week. By low. Yeah. On everybody or on Tate in particular or what?

Well, he's the only – I mean, look, you could buy low on Amir Abdullah if you want to. And, you know, it was a shame that he's coming off that great game last week and then struggles this week. But the Panthers are a good run defense. And the Saints, you could certainly make the argument that they've played very well their last two games against the same Carolina team and then the Dolphins. But I don't think they're a very good defense. So Abdullah has a big bounce-back opportunity and certainly the Lions offense.

The nice thing from Stafford is that he's not just relying on one guy. He's really spread the ball around. And I also think that Marvin Jones came into this week at 44% owned. He's another guy I would look at, you know, as a potential Odell Beckham replacement, at least for the Week 6 game against the Saints. Yeah, absolutely. They're at the Saints, and then they have a bye.

Then Pittsburgh at Green Bay, then Cleveland at Chicago. It gets easier for them. Not to say every matchup season. And Taylor Decker could be back at that point, too. Jacksonville 30 and Pittsburgh 9. How droppable is Martavis Bryant at this point?

Droppable. Yeah, I mean it just depends on your status, but I'm distracted by the fact that your running back did not get a touchdown. Sharkandrick West just did. Sorry, Adam. Martavis, but I don't think I'm distracted by the fact that your running back did not get a touchdown. Sharkandrick West just did. Sorry, Adam. Martavis, but I don't think I'm probably dropping Martavis Bryant either,

but I'm certainly not starting him. It's just a matter of if you can get to the second half of the schedule and still be in contention. Yeah. I don't want to give up on the Steelers offense. Roethlisberger looks so bad, but I just feel like maybe it was Le'Veon Bell holding out. Maybe that screwed them up. Maybe the anthem thing. I mean, Jason Lockett Ford wrote about the anthem thing being the source of Antonio Brown's frustration last week when he beat up the cooler.

I don't know. I just feel like it's just weird that the Steelers would go from so good offensively last year to so bad this year. I think chemistry has a huge... You've got the Anthem thing. You've got the Le'Veon Bell holdout thing. You've got the Antonio Brown-Binn thing. You've got the Martavis suspension arguing with Binn thing. Yeah.

There's a lot of chemistry problems on this team, and I don't think you can understate that right now. They're at Kansas City next week. Okay. Chargers 27, Giants 22. You know, Rivers is having a nice year. He's a little frustrating, he's a little up and down, but you take that game, that three-fantasy-point game against Kansas City away,

he's had 19 or more fantasy points every single game. That's really good. He's at Oakland next week, then Denver, no, then at New England, yes. So, Jamie, I mean, looks good for Phillip Rivers. What do you think? Yeah, and look, depending on the actuality of Mike Williams playing, that's another weapon that he can certainly have at his disposal. It's still bad play calling.

There's some questionable stuff that happens throughout the course of every Chargers game that you look at and say, what are they doing? But he leaned on his guys today when he had to because you know the outside guys for the Giants are going to take away

the receiving core, really. I mean, Tyrell Williams one catch for 22 yards. You mentioned the miss on Travis Benjamin. Keenan Allen had a really rough day. It was almost a benefit for him to get to the 67 yards receiving that he got you. But Hunter Henry scores a touchdown. Melvin Gordon with two easy touchdowns, you know, catching the ball in the backfield.

And so, Keith, you've got to be a little bit nervous about the Crow now, right? I am more nervous than I have been at any point this season. I still don't know for sure that he's in the top eight for the season. So as long as he's outside of the top eight, I'll feel good about Gordon not finishing top four. But he definitely made up ground on Gurley,

which is the one we were talking about. Right. We talked about this on our Sunday show, Adam, and I didn't see this during the week, but Pete Prisco brought it up that gordon and uh anthony lynn the head coach of the chargers had to sit down and he complained about not getting enough work yeah and pete was saying watch he's just gonna get fed and fed in the passing game he was you know he got eight targets six catches 58 yards 20 carries obviously game flow had a lot to do with this, but it wasn't like the Chargers were ahead and they were just sitting on a lead.

Gordon was featured in this game like we really haven't seen so far this year, and I think it was great if you're a Gordon owner. 5.3 yards per carry, that's fantastic for him. So if this is the Gordon you're getting from this point forward, I think he might be in trouble because he's going to get a lot of work and certainly the production can follow. He came into this week 60 points behind Kareem Hunt and Todd Gurley, and he's going to be about 40 behind Leonard Fournette still, so I'm okay.

Hunter Henry is zoned in 69% of leagues. He had three catches for 42 yards and a touchdown on the Giants. That's not a surprise. Is Hunter Henry going to be someone you can rely on? He's not going to be good every week, but is he a fairly reliable tight end or just a guy who took advantage of the matchup? I think he's a low-end starter moving forward. You know, this is now three of four games, three of his last four games,

where he's gotten you something that you can at least hang your hat on. You know, last week was just the touchdown catch, but, you know, week two it was the 80-yard game. This is now, you know, a game where he had eight targets. So we just had the two games with the no targets, week one and week three. All right, let's move forward here. Just yes or no, Jamie. Is Roger Lewis for the Giants going to be in the waiver

wire column at wide receiver? Yes and no. Yes, but very low. Yes will be mentioned, obviously. Right, right. Jets 17, Browns 14. The Jets are 3-2. And they're in first place. Adam, let me ask you this before we move on.

Would you want to see the Giants tank at this point, trying to get number one pick? No, no, because they don't have to. They're going to have a top three pick. They're awful now. They're pathetic. But do you want them to take one of the quarterbacks? Yeah, I do.

How do you feel about the fact that the Jets have almost mathematically guaranteed more wins than the Giants this year? I'm fine with it. I'm rooting for the Jets. My brother's a Jets fan. The funny thing is Jets fans are not rooting for the Jets. They hate this. This is the worst case scenario.

You ready for the boldest of bold predictions? The Jets lose out. The jets are going to lose every game going forward. Well, they still play the dolphins one more time in Miami. They're going to lose that game. The jets will finish three and 13. Uh,

all right, here we go. Jet 17. Guys, let's finish up kind of quickly here. Uh, any major takeaways from this game? Heath, we talked about, we talked about Crowell. We talked about Duke. We talked about Austin's ferry and Jenkins. finish up kind of quickly here. Any major takeaways from this game? Heath?

We talked about him. We talked about Crowell. We talked about Duke. We talked about Austin Safarian Jenkins. We talked about Powell. I don't think there's anything. We didn't talk that much about Safarian Jenkins. Would you rather have Safarian Jenkins or Hunter Henry rest of season? I actually did that in one league. I dropped Henry to pick up Safarian Jenkins for today's game specifically.

Now, Safarian Jenkins didn't give me the game I hoped for, but you see now, this is now three weeks where the targets continue to get to a very good level. I know, Heath, you're very big on obviously what the targets are, and you know what this receiving core is. They have a game where they're most likely going to be chasing points next week, so I think Safarian Jenkins is very relevant. I was going to say, if you're the Beckham owner, Jermaine Kearse,

this is now three of five games where he's giving you a good fantasy number. And again, chasing points against the Patriots next week, or even if they're not chasing points, you know what? That secondary has given up. So Kearse is somebody that if you're just looking to try and piece it together with Beckham out, he's somebody that you can absolutely look at. Dolphins 16, Titans 10. Exciting game. I hate you, J.J. Dolphins 16, Titans 10. Exciting game.

I hate you, JGI. Okay, yeah, fine. JGI, DeMarco Murray. Do you guys have faith that these guys will live up to second round status going forward? I'd rather have Murray. I would rather have Murray too. But, yeah, it's frustrating for both. I mean...

Answer my question, if you wouldn't mind do you have faith that there will be second round quality running backs going forward no I'll say yes just because the work will be there for them I'm just like

the thing that worries me about Ajayi he was not bad. He's running so hard. He's still breaking tackles. There's no threat of a downfield passing game when they're not blocking anybody. And the guy takes three hits on every run. And I'm just, I'm really, I don't see the huge upside anymore. And I'm really worried there's a floor of season-ending injury

because he's taken so many hits. And has a knee injury. Yeah. Right. All right, Baltimore 30, Oakland 17. And, huh, anything for – what do you think, Marshawn Lynch? 12 carries, 43 yards, and a touchdown. This is a ceiling.

Yeah, but he gets the Chargers next week, so ride it out one more week and then try and trade him. All right. Nice to see Michael Crabtree. Michael Crabtree has actually started in fewer leagues than Amari Cooper. Cooper has had three straight games with zero fantasy points in standard scoring leagues. That's unbelievable. Less than 10 yards in three straight games. Crabtree had one big play.

Crabtree would be better than Cooper this year, right? You said, yeah, right. I thought Crabtree had a chance to be a bust because I thought Cooper could really have his breakout year. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Let's see what happens. David Carr has to get back.

I didn't expect anybody to be good. Hey, he struggled earlier this year. I wouldn't call him David. Yeah, if David Carcass was back, it's bad for the Raiders. My bad. And the Colts, in overtime, beat the Niners 26-23. Is T.Y. Hilton

going to be reliable? Brissette is not bad. He might not be a great fantasy quarterback. He got you 17 points today, but he's better than I thought he'd be. Is T.Y. Hilton going to be reliable over the next month before we see that guy, Andrew Luck? You should start him. Who?

You should start him next week against the Titans. You should start T.Y. Hilton every week. Now, you say that, but he's had, like, three horrible games. I understand, but he's had two games with over 170 yards receiving. I think he's been predictable. He's had two games in good matchups, and he's had three bad games in bad matchups. So next week's a good matchup. You're starting him.

Okay. And Garcon, another Garcon-y game. Eight catches for 94 yards on 11 targets. He is now. Yeah, that's a season high in catches. Still hasn't scored, but he's exactly what you were hoping for, Pierre Garcon. And this podcast was exactly what I was hoping for Everybody got along

I got to sing very briefly And Kareem Hunt did not do it That's the only thing that was a disappointment He's got three fantasy points We're getting there The shine is coming off of DeSean Watson Oh interesting Alright so for Jamie though. I'm sorry. Oh, interesting.

Interesting. Alright, so for Jamie and Heath, I'm Adam. Thank you all very much for listening. We're back on Tuesday with The Waiver Wire. Have a fun Monday, everybody. Bye. Bye. It's alright I've got baby on bail