Fantasy Football Today - 10/09: Waiver Wire and What Happened to Kamara??? (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 9, 2018Before we get into what should be a very appealing Waiver Wire, let's talk about Alvin Kamara! What a dud last night! Are we concerned going forward? Now that that's out of the way, which PHI RB are w...e prioritizing (3:25)? How much FAAB should we spend and who are some of our other top priorities (12:00). We mention Alfred Morris, Jameis Winston, Greg Olsen and many more ... A sneak peak at the Waiver Wire for each position (22:10) with IDP later in the show (37:42). Plus we discuss WAS-NO (25:00) and DAL-HOU (33:51). Did we get a glimpse of what we can expect from the Saints offense going forward? ... Waiver Wire QBs (39:45) including Baker Mayfield and Mitchell Trubisky, RBs (44:51) including Alfred Blue and Mike Davis, WRs (51:25) including Chris Godwin and Mohamed Sanu, TEs including (58:00) Cameron Brate and Geoff Swaim and DSTs ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com This episode is sponsored by www.ZipRecruiter.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Let's hit the waiver wire.
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T.
A waiver wire Tuesday show.
What's going on everybody?
Welcome to Fantasy Football Today.
Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath on Tuesday, October 9th.
And we're going to give you our top waiver wire priorities.
There are going to be some Eagles running backs on there, you better believe it.
Including a 10% Wendell Smallwood.
Guys, before we get into the waiver wire, what happened to Alvin Kamara?
What a terrible game.
Nine touches and what? 39 total yards good math adam bad game what happened alvin
camara are we worried why didn't you start with the welcome back music like let's focus on the
positive mark ingram is here focus on the positive drew brees just set an amazing nfl record i missed
my opportunity i missed my rayquan smith established himself put himself on the map
but no we're just going to focus on the doom and gloom.
Alvin Kamara.
It was a bad game script.
I am not any – my opinion on what's going to happen with Alvin Kamara
the rest of the season did not change because of this game.
The script was let's get Ingram involved early,
and then it was a kill-the-clock game in the fourth quarter.
I don't think Kamara is going to be as good in games
where they have two score leads in the fourth quarter.
Do you ever leave a hot blackjack table?
No.
I tell you what, I am red hot.
I think I had my best fantasy week ever this week.
Right.
I believe I went 16-1.
So you're not going to go and stop.
Are you serious?
You're not going to stop playing fantasy now.
You went 16-1?
That's pretty good.
That is extremely good.
How'd you do in daily?
Nobody got it.
I don't get it.
16-1?
Oh, you're such a...
You know what?
That's good.
Oh, that was the score of the baseball game?
Good job, Ian.
But you didn't go 16-1.
No, but the Red Sox did.
No, the Royals did, as I recall.
Ingram was hot, Adam. Yeah, but the Red Sox did. No, the Royals did, as I recall. Ingram was hot, Adam.
Yeah, but you know what?
One other thing.
He really wasn't hot.
They didn't exactly run the ball very well.
I think part of it is they've given Kamara a lot of work over the last four games.
They have their bye week coming up.
It was easy to lean on the other guy and just get Kamara through the game,
not have any injury concern, and he'll be fine in week
six, week seven.
Kamara also did have a lot of involvement near the end zone.
Second quarter, they had first and ten from the 11-yard line he was in.
He caught a pass for seven yards.
He stays in the game on second and third down.
On third down, Washington gets a stop, but they're called for defensive holding.
Now it's first and goal from the one, and here's Mark Ingram, and he comes in.
And Drew Brees actually threw a touchdown to Josh Hill on that play. Later in the second quarter,
first and goal from the eight, Kamara was in. Taysom Hill was the quarterback. Hill carries it
down to like the two-yard line. Here comes Mark Ingram, and he gets the next two carries, and he
gets a goal line touchdown. Third quarter, Kamara got a carry on first and goal from the four,
but the play was called back on illegal formation, and he didn't score.
So he had some opportunities.
But if you go back to last year,
it's not surprising that when they got super-duper close to the end zone,
it was Ingram because he had more of those types of carries last year.
All right, so they've got a bye coming up,
and we'll talk more about that game a little bit later. I want to
ask you your waiver wire priorities, but it's going to
have to start with the Eagles running back
situation, and JGI is out
for the year with a torn ACL.
Corey Clement practiced in full.
They are at the Giants this week,
which is a solid matchup.
Giants have allowed nine or more fantasy points in non-PPR
to a running back in all five games.
Twelve or more in non-PPR in four or five games.
They also are struggling in the passing game against running backs.
Three receiving touchdowns allowed.
It's a short week.
All right, who do you want, Clement or Smallwood?
And where's Sproles in the equation?
Well, Sproles is going to be a distant third in the equation
because we don't know when he's going to be back from his injury.
I like Smallwood a little bit better than Clement because,
really just because he's a little bit more physical than Clement.
Here's the deal.
Philadelphia is going to use them both, and they're going to use them both a lot.
Even Ajayi, when he was healthy, didn't have any more than maybe 51% of the snaps when he was playing.
They like using multiple backs.
It's nice that they're down to three.
They're down to four.
One of them's hurt.
That's Sproles.
The other one is this undrafted player named Josh Adams who has had moments,
certainly in the preseason he did, but I don't think he's going to be a big factor.
You're going to see a lot of Smallwood and a lot of Clement.
It's probably going to be situational based on who's on the field when.
They can both do a lot of the same things,
but I think Smallwood's just got the edge when it comes to,
A, health, he's healthier, and B, size.
And he's more available.
He's out there in 90% of leagues.
So give me Wendell.
Okay.
One vote for Smallwood for Dave.
Heath, Jamie?
Yeah, I can't disagree with anything Dave said.
It's nice to have a running back that's 90
available that everybody wants to add agree and he's the must get like i it's been a long time
since we've had a must add and we've got another one waiver on a different team back yes i agree
oh do we all right so why don't we go into our priorities?
Oh, and he's such a fantastic back.
Who, Alf?
It's Alf.
Alf.
You've got to go get Alf.
He's back.
Yeah, but Breida might not miss that much time.
He's going to be must start this week,
and Breida's been hurt almost every single game this year.
It's true.
It's over for him to be the featured back in San Francisco.
When he's healthy, it's going to end up being kind of what it'll be in Philadelphia, 50-50 split.
There's also, Mike, this is actually not a bad week for running backs.
Now, I don't know that any of these guys are going to be stars,
except other than the ones we're talking about, they have great potential, at least this week.
But if you are just looking for some potential or maybe someone who can get you like six points,
it seems like one of the better running back waiver wire weeks that we've had.
Well, I think we have like six startable running backs
on the waiver wire this week.
It's phenomenal.
So how much fab for your favorite running back?
What percentage?
I think you've got to get him.
If you're desperate for running back help, you've got to get him.
I'd go with at least 30%.
For Clement, would be your number one priority?
No, Smallwood would be my number one.
I'm really having a hard time not with the Smallwood-Clement
because I'm going to stick with Smallwood.
I kind of want Elf.
You can get them both.
You can't.
Well, I think there's going to be some teams that spend over 50% on these guys.
Combined?
No.
On one?
Yes.
Of course.
If you're desperate for wins, you have to.
I think you'll see some 60% and 70% bids.
But, I mean, is that a big mistake since we're talking about committee guys here?
Yes.
But people – look, for week six, you've got to look at small.
What is the better of the two guys?
Week seven, it could be we come out of this saying, wow, Clement was ahead of him on the death start for a reason,
and he's healthy now, and he's back to being the guy there.
So it's risky.
And then there's still the opportunity for them.
As they showed last year, they were aggressive in making a trade to get Jay Ajayi. They could be aggressive in making a trade to get Le'Veon Bell for what it's risky. And then there's still the opportunity for them. As they showed last year, they were aggressive in making a trade to get J.J.
They could be aggressive in making a trade to get Le'Veon Bell for what it's worth.
So I don't know if come Week 10 we're saying Smallwood or Clement is the best running back to Philadelphia.
Then let me bring this up about the Eagles because this week you'll start them.
You'll start Smallwood.
If Clement plays, we'll discuss it.
And he's going to play.
He's going to play, most likely.
But after that, look at the schedule.
It's tough, potentially. Carolina
get Thomas Davis back. They could be tough.
They usually are. At Jacksonville,
then a bye. Dallas could
have Sean Lee at that point, you would think.
At New Orleans, clearly one of the better
run defenses in the NFL.
It's not an enticing schedule coming up.
What does that mean for you?
How do you weigh that in with the Eagles running backs and their outlook?
I'm just looking for a running back that I can start each week at this point.
Yeah, we're not – like schedule does matter.
I'm not saying it's irrelevant.
But like if you're making a big move to go get one of these guys,
it's because your running backs are in dire straits.
And so I don't think you can let that really have much of an impact.
You need a starting running back.
It's also if you're under 500, you need to win now.
And so, again, just a short week, Smallwood looks like the best of the group,
followed by Morris, followed by Clement, just in terms of what they can give you.
Maybe Davis as well, if Dalvin Cook's out.
You have Latavius Murray also.
So you need to spend because, I mean, what are you holding the money for?
What are you holding your family money for?
Exactly.
If you lose and your season's over, you don't need it for Week 10.
So are you willing to drop Alex Collins, Kenyon Drake, a Tennessee running back,
a Jets running back maybe?
I know they're coming off a good game, but they've been frustrating.
For Smallwood or Clement or Morris?
I'm probably not dropping those guys for them.
In a 10-team league, again, if you need just to win now, yes.
Several of them.
And in a 12-team league, I think you can get rid of the Tennessee guys too.
I hate to say it, but they went to Buffalo and they couldn't get anything going.
It's over.
Okay.
And I also want to point out that even, like,
obviously the teams that are bad and
are desperate for a running back are going to make a play for those guys but the teams who are good
should make a play for them too a because you don't know what smallwood could end up being
he could end up being the best pickup off waivers this year i the problem additionally it's trade
bait and if let's just say you're five and oh you haven't spent a dime on Fab or very little on Fab,
this is a chance for you to really drop the hammer
on the rest of your league and make your team
even more potent for the rest
of the year.
He's going to be super popular.
He is. I know you
answered this, but why are we
convinced that it's Smallwood and not
Corey Clement? I'm not.
I think, honestly, for me, it's this week I think Smallwood and not Corey Clement? I'm not.
Honestly, for me, it's this week I think Smallwood is the better of the two.
Long term, I would not be surprised if Clement is better than Smallwood because he was better than Smallwood coming into the season.
Smallwood was the guy they thought about cutting.
Yeah, but he stepped up.
He's played very well.
Yes.
But so did Clement before he got hurt.
And so it's going to be a frustrating tandem.
They're going to split time.
Then Sproles is going to come back.
That's going to make it even more frustrating.
So for this week, I would only approach it this week as Smallwood
is the better of the two and then just see what happens. Smallwood could be better the rest of the
year. Very easily could be the case. But Clement was the guy. We talked about him as a sleeper.
He played great that week two game when Ajayi was banged up and Sproul's got hurt. He played okay in
week three and then he got hurt. And so Smallwood in the small touches that he's got, he's played well.
He's averaging six yards per carry.
He's caught 10 of 15 targets.
But Clement was also doing basically the same thing, 4.2 yards per carry,
so it was a little bit less.
But he also didn't play with Wentz.
So I don't think it's a stretch by any means that Clement is.
Three weeks from now, we're saying what Dave just said.
Clement was the running back pick above the year.
Well, I was actually saying that about Smallwood.
No, but I'm saying that.
You can say Clement could be that guy too?
That's just what I said.
Sure.
All right.
I wasn't sure what you heard me say.
I like the fact that Smallwood and Clement can do basically the same things.
And we've seen it.
Smallwood is a much better pass catcher than he's been.
They can both average a nice number on handoffs.
And they're in a really good Philadelphia offense.
Wish that line would play a little bit better.
But they're...
Might have been bad.
Yeah, it's definitely an issue.
But at least they can make up for it a little bit
with their receiving game.
I definitely have the feeling that, by and large,
they're going to end up being like the Falcons running backs
where you're just not going to know which one does what.
What role they'll have.
I mean, Clements has been more involved in the passing game, but that's been without Sproles.
So Sproles, I don't know that anybody wants Sproles right now.
He's 15% on, and I don't think you want him in a non-PPR league.
But he might get you five catches a game or so, and that's a lot.
But he might get you five catches two out of three games.
If you just look at it just from an easy comparison, because we'll talk about him in a minute, is Jalen Richard.
Right.
Scored at least 11 PPR points in three of five games.
I mean, Sproles could do that easily.
How about Naeem Hines?
It's the same kind of situation, except Hines is usually playing from behind, which helps.
But I'm not sure the Eagles won't be in a terrible, terrible division, it seems.
All right, so those are the Eagles running backs. We'll get more into that later. We also have
Alfred Morris, who we're very interested in. I'm going to say Greg Olson. He's 72% owned. He's not
65% or fewer, but Greg Olson, who is a bigger priority, a running back or Greg Olson? I mean,
you've got a guy that we were drafting as maybe a top five tight end that's available in 28% of leagues. If you see Clement, Smallwood, Morris, and Greg Olson out there, does it just depend on team?
Or is there an easy answer here to who's number one?
I think it's the running backs.
I'm a little worried about Olson in his first game back.
And also there's another tight end who's going to be very good for the next month and better this week.
That's only 27% on it.
That's Cameron Brait.
That is Cameron Brait.
Other waiver wire priorities?
I think this is going to be one of those nights where I'm spending like an hour
and a half setting my waiver claims.
Last couple weeks I haven't really felt that way.
Tonight there's a lot of guys I want to get, a lot of wide receivers.
Who are you guys going to be prioritizing?
Well, I mean, there's one quarterback that stands head and shoulders above the rest.
And I write the streaming column every Tuesday, and I'll be writing this afternoon.
And it's hard to find the number two and number three streaming quarterback, for me at least.
But Jameis Winston is still only owned in 49% of leagues.
He has a matchup with the worst or second worst, but probably the worst, defense in the NFL.
He's going to be awesome.
Run and get him like you're trying to get your hands on some crab legs.
Steal him from your waiver wire.
And Chris Godwin is like 50% owned or a little less than 50% owned.
That's another guy I'm going to be looking at.
Yep.
Anything else? Anything else? Mohamed Sanu. He's another guy I'm going to be looking at. Anything else?
Mohamed Sanu. He's been very good the last
three games.
I think his opponent is
Tampa Bay, right? I don't know if they give up the most
fantasy points to wide receivers, but they're terrible.
They're 31st.
Steelers, maybe?
Falcons. There it is.
A lot of points. A lot of wide receiver production there.
What about Robbie Anderson?
For a one-week fix?
I don't have much interest in him.
I love the matchup against Indy. I think he can have another big touchdown catch.
Yeah, he's like the 6th or 7th receiver for me.
He could.
There's boom-bust potential there, but he could get four targets
and catch two balls for 20 yards as well.
Could.
We'll also be looking at Marquez Valdez-Scantling in shallower leagues.
We'll be looking at Tyler Lockett.
And Cameron Brait was mentioned.
Not sure it's a great week for DST.
But we'll talk about that.
Oh, get the Packers.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, all right.
Get the Packers.
Packers facing San Francisco.
Yeah, just Seattle's defense stinks.
So does Oakland's offense.
Oakland's offense stinks?
How dare you?
Oakland's offense is so up and down.
How dare you?
That was my softball for Heath.
This is not true.
I mean, they're middle of the pack in fantasy points allowed to DSTs.
But the problem is that the teams that are the absolute worst,
like give up the most points at DSTs, are facing opponents that have DSTs that are widely owned.
So that's just the problem.
Like the Texans actually I think are 74% owned and they get the bills.
So that could be one that you look at.
But if they're not owned, you can't get the best streamers because blah, blah, blah.
I don't make any sense.
And I think it's tough to answer fab questions as you get later in the season
because you don't have a full budget anymore.
But people are going to go big.
And Dave said like 30% of your fab budget on Smallwood or Clement or whatever.
If you put a $30 bid on Smallwood, would you put a
$30 bid on Clement too? Or a
$25 or what?
I don't think it's reasonable.
Maybe there will be some leagues where you can,
but I don't think most leagues that's going to get it done.
Really? You think there will
be somebody in every league that just goes
70%?
Hogwild on Wendell
Smallwood. Do you know I cut him in one of my leagues on Saturday?
Yes, you did, and I was going to pick him up, and I didn't.
So screw you, Dave, for not helping me.
Screw me.
Screw JGI for tearing his ACL.
Yeah, it's true.
And, you know, I would say that, like,
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Got a lot of news and notes.
Let's get to it.
Brandon Cooks and Cooper Cupp have a chance to play this week.
Wonderful.
If they don't play this week, should the Jared Goff owner sit Jared Goff at Denver and make alternate plans?
I mean, if Jameis is out there, you can go get him. There's no other quarterback that's available in even 30% of leagues that I would start over Goff.
Okay.
We got Aaron Rodgers who came away from Sunday.
I mean, he's going to play, but he had more knee soreness.
So that is discouraging, at least in my opinion, because I was pretty encouraged by his health.
And now, ugh. discouraging, at least in my opinion, because I was pretty encouraged by his health. I would expect he's going to have knee soreness
after every game this year.
Adrian Peterson dislocated his shoulder.
He only played two snaps
in the second half. They got Carolina coming up.
Chris Thompson hurt his ribs.
We haven't talked about
Samaj AP, right?
We did last week. He picked him up in a couple of our deeper leagues.
I did.
I beat the waiver wire.
You knew.
You did mention him and beat the waiver wire.
Nice work.
Is anybody looking to pick him up with both Redskins running backs getting hurt in this game last night?
Nope.
They're playing Carolina with Thomas Davis coming back.
Yeah, it's not a good matchup at all.
He's the consolation prize to the consolation prize.
Plus, we don't know.
So he would be fourth behind the Eagles running backs and Alfred Morris?
Maybe fifth or sixth.
And Peterson thinks he's going to play, so we don't know.
I don't know what's up with Chris Thompson.
Paul Richardson left with a knee injury last night.
Saints cornerback Marshawn Lattimore left with a concussion as he goes into the bye week.
Matt Breida has a mid-ankle sprain.
He's doubtful for this week's game at Green Bay on Monday night.
Baltimore could go running back by committee.
Could go?
What are they doing?
You know what happened.
John Harbaugh talked about giving –
The possibility of doing exactly what they've done for the entire season?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
But extending it for the entire season.
It's not like it was good news for Alex Collins' owners.
And the Steelers, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, it was more like speculation.
They could go more of a committee when Le'Veon Bell returns, if he returns.
And Mike McCarthy will not commit to more work for Aaron Jones, which is annoying.
Would you drop Aaron Jones for an Eagles running back?
I would not.
No.
But I would drop Jamal Williams or Ty Montgomery.
Yes.
Green Bay is sticking with Mason Crosby.
Leonard Fournette is expected to miss this week's game at Dallas.
Austin Safarian Jenkins is on IR.
Jacksonville could be on its third string left tackle.
Jacksonville guard Andrew Norwell is playing through a foot injury,
and center Brandon Linder is playing through a knee injury.
This team is extremely banged up.
Evan Ingram has a chance to play this week. It seems unlikely as they have Philadelphia on Thursday,
but Ingram has a chance to play.
He's like 73%
owned, something like that.
Darius Leonard, Indianapolis
linebacker, expected to play this week. That's great
for you, IDPers.
And Buster Screen, Jets cornerback, left
with a concussion on Sunday. He's actually
Tremaine Johnson's replacement, so they're going to be
thin at cornerback if he doesn't play
against the Colts. Denver cornerback
Adam Jones has a leg injury. Do you expect
the following players? Lamar Miller against
Buffalo. Yes.
I expect him to be active. I don't expect him
to start.
Alfred Blue is another guy you could pick up. Dalvin Cook against
Arizona.
Nope.
Marlon Mack of the Jets.
He's practicing, but he practiced last week
and he was inactive.
So no reason to think he's going to play at this point.
Marlon Mack, 62%. T.Y. Hilton at the Jets.
Same thing.
Let's see if he practices first.
I don't expect him.
They're talking about this being a multi-week injury.
How about Randall Cobb and Geronimo Allison Monday night?
I think Allison probably plays. We're not ranking him yet because of protocol, but I don't expect Cobb and Geronimo Allison Monday night. I think Allison probably plays.
We're not ranking him yet because of protocol, but I don't expect Cobb.
How about George Kittle?
Yeah, I would expect George to play.
He left the game with a knee injury, so hopefully he's okay.
And Greg Olson.
Hopefully.
Okay.
I'd like for him to play, have them get the rest game off,
so then he can be good next week.
Quick sneak peek at the waiver wire.
Some quarterbacks that we're going to be talking about?
Jameis.
Jameis?
Baker Mayfield.
Yeah, maybe not so much for this week, but after.
That schedule. I wouldn't necessarily run so much for this week, but after. That schedule.
I wouldn't necessarily run away from him this week, though.
Chargers do allow the ninth most fantasy points to quarterbacks,
and then it's at Tampa Bay, at Pittsburgh, Kansas City, and Atlanta.
Are you serious, Baker Mayfield?
Running back, who else are we going to be talking about?
Mike Davis?
Hines?
Yep.
Alfred Blue, Frank Gore, Deontay Foreman.
Deontay Foreman.
Some players to be stashed in or starting.
Like they always say, there's always running backs available on the waiverware.
Wide receiver.
Wide receiver.
MVS.
MVS.
Robbie.
Godwin. Sanu. Oh. mvs mvs robbie godwin sanu oh kiki qt trae kwan trae kwan smith that's another one bye weekend again we'll be back though hey how we feeling about i feel i'm mad at myself for
for letting you guys talk me into mich Thomas over Antonio Brown rest of season.
I'm mad at myself for it.
Yeah, you shouldn't have done that.
Who would you guys take
rest of season, Antonio Brown or Michael Thomas?
Brown.
I'll stick with Thomas.
All right, good conviction.
Thomas will be fine.
What else?
Tight end. Who are we looking at at tight end other than Cameron
Brate? There are a lot of good options at tight end.
I'm going to say a name that's not on the list, but Niles Paul.
Since Fran Jenkins is out for a while, it looks like he'll be the top tight end there.
I believe he had nine targets against the Chiefs.
Everybody had nine targets against the Chiefs.
Not D.D. Westbrook.
True.
How about save the drama for C.J. Uzama?
Nice.
Yeah, there's also Hooper going against the best matchup.
Tampa Bay allows the most fantasy points to tight ends, I believe.
I think it's the quarterbacks.
I saw that.
I think I may have screwed that.
But I think it might be tight ends as well.
But let's take a look.
Did I screw that up?
Adam, did you screw that up?
No, you didn't. You had the Vance McDonald play. That probably helped. The Buccaneers do allow the most fantasy points be tight ends as well, but let's take a look. Did I screw that up? Adam, did you screw that up? No, you didn't.
You had the Vance McDonald play.
That probably helped.
The Buccaneers do allow the most fantasy points to tight ends.
I win.
And Jeff Swaim actually led the Cowboys in receiving on Sunday night
with three catches for 55 yards.
So I don't know if there are great options out there, but there are options.
DSDs, we talked about the Packers, the Seahawks.
There's also the Cowboys, the Texans.
And any IDP guys for you?
You got to get Ward.
You got to get Denzel Ward if he's available.
Ask me in five minutes on the IDPs.
All right, Dave.
I will ask you in five minutes.
In the meantime, let's recap.
New Orleans 43, Washington 19.
Jamie, what are your thoughts on the Redskins offense going forward?
Punt.
No, that's what they did in the game.
Jordan Reed is the only one that you can feel comfortable with.
If Thompson and Peterson are hurt, you missed your sell-high window on Peterson because there's no more bye weeks, there's no more rest,
there's no more opportunities where you can feel comfortable starting
him as anything more than a flex
depending on what the week we're talking about.
Just as a blanket statement, I think
that's where he'll fall. Thompson,
I think, will still have some value in PPR, but
this receiving court just stinks.
I thought without
Doxson playing and what slot
receivers had done against the Saints that James
and Crowder would have a big day.
He led them in receiving, and it was just another mediocre performance.
So Alex Smith is droppable easily.
All these receivers are droppable.
And you may not have Thompson or Peterson in week six,
and so we'll see what happens.
But I have no interest really in Piran or Bibbs if those are the replacement
options.
Okay.
That's well said.
Jordan Reed, though, I mean, he's like, no. bibs if those are the replacement options okay that's well well said jordan reed though i mean
he's like no one catch for 21 yards on two target it's terrible he's really having a bad year i mean
he's having a bad year vernon davis got more targets for him and caught more passes and i
think he played more snaps in the first half in the second half reed was in more there were a lot
of plays where both of them were in i i don't understand it. I don't know if this is just like Alex Smith remembers his glory days with Vernon Davis in San Francisco,
and so he's looking to him first or what it is, but I hate the whole Jordan Reed situation.
And I don't feel comfortable starting him this week.
I'm going to have him in the top 12, but I don't like it.
I mean, I guess there's certainly potential for better.
Look, Smith has a good track record with tight ends.
He's probably the most talented receiver on the team.
They've got to get him the ball.
And sometimes guys just have bad starts.
So as a Jordan Reed owner in several leagues, I don't want to drop him, but I'm certainly
sitting him for Eric Ebron.
I'm going to start Cameron Bright this week.
Okay.
For the Saints.
So do you think that they will – okay, like Drew Brees had an amazing game,
but he only threw 29 passes.
He completed 26 of them.
Did we get a glimpse into life with Mark Ingram in this game or no?
Because like Brees with 29 pass attempts, that's really low.
Kamara with a very, very reduced roll.
Taysom Hill is going to be a pain in the butt for all of the Saints that you own
if he continues to take goal line carries away.
Did we get a peek into what it's going to be like with Ingram back?
I mean, maybe, but you mentioned the schedule coming up.
I don't think they're going to have the luxury of just doing whatever they want to
and playing with such a lead against some of those teams that are clearly better than Washington.
Yeah, so I don't know if I mentioned it.
They have a bye.
You did.
You said it, I think, in regard to Ingram or Kamara, one of the two.
Yeah, this was a bit of a—
Let me give the schedule again.
Bye.
At Baltimore, at Minnesota, Rams, at the Bengals, then the Eagles.
That's their next six weeks.
Go ahead, Heath.
This was a bit of a freebie for the Drew Brees owner
because if you had told me he was going to throw 29 passes against Washington,
I would have assumed that he wasn't going to be very good in fantasy.
I do think—I think this was an exaggerated glimpse. Like, this is not what we't going to be very good in fantasy. I do think this was an exaggerated glimpse.
This is not what we're going to get,
but it shows you the floor
in terms of pass attempts for Breeze and touches
for Alvin Kamara.
It's interesting.
Do you think it's a good time to sell Drew Breeze,
or would you be afraid to do that since he's been just
incredible this year? I think it's a bad time
to sell him because he has a buy.
It's a great time to sell him because he has a buy. It's a great time to sell him because he has a buy. It's a great time to sell him because he has a buy.
It's a great time to sell him because he has a buy.
It's a great year to sell him because you can replace him.
People are paying more for quarterbacks on buys now?
Heath, this comes down to
the usual thing. You worry about what the other person's doing.
You sell him. I worry about what I'm going to get for him.
It's easier to trade
for a quarterback you can use this week. You're only selling him
if you're getting something great for him. I'll just go back
to a point that I've made a million times,
which is not everybody plays in a league with us.
And there's a lot of people that see what Drew Brees has done,
and they're going to go, ooh, that would look good on my fantasy team.
I'll give you an amazing running back or a good running back
and a good wide receiver for him.
And replacing Drew Brees, number-wise, it's probably going to take a hit.
You'd take Galladay for Brees, wouldn't you? Oh, yeah. I would take Galladay for Brees while in... I mean, you would take... Number-wise, it's probably you're going to take a hit. You'd take Galladay for Brees, wouldn't you?
Oh, yeah. I would take Galladay for Brees.
I think that's a fair deal.
I'm not saying you shouldn't trade him because he's got a buy.
I'm saying you generally don't get
as much trading a guy that's on a buy.
Okay, so take the buy
out of the equation.
And this is kind of what I was talking about
last week with our Mahomes discussion
on the Wednesday show.
Drew Brees is the number two
quarterback in fantasy right now.
Kenny Galladay is a wide receiver.
And he's great.
But is it really that easy
of a call to give up
the number two quarterback
in fantasy for a wide receiver?
I mean...
Yes.
Happily.
I don't know.
I'm not quite there with... I mean, there's the same conversation we had last Wednesday. I know. That's what I'mily. I don't know. I'm not quite there with –
I mean, there's the same conversation we had last Wednesday.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
I still –
If you're getting an equally good receiver to what Breeze is as a quarterback, you make that trade in a heartbeat.
I don't know.
I would say that Galladay as a receiver is as good as Drew Brees as quarterback. I think my question, Adam, would be because if you looked at it last week
and said we've got these four or five quarterbacks that are scoring 30 fantasy points a game,
I don't want to give that up.
And you look at those four or five quarterbacks this week,
two-thirds of them were awful in terms of fantasy production this week.
Okay, well, Adam, let me ask you this because this is based on the ownership.
If you could trade Drew Brees for pick a player and pick up Jameis Winston,
so trading Brees to get starter, capable starter, quality starter, superstar,
whatever level you're giving up Brees for, it's one for one or in a package deal.
Yeah.
And then just pivot to a guy who could be 75% of what Brees is?
Yeah, I mean, yes, I would do that.
The thing is, I also feel like Brees is not going to be the number two quarterback in fantasy going forward.
Well, that's the biggest part of it.
Yeah, but, right, that's the thing.
Like, that's why I'm asked about the sell high because I don't –
if he's throwing – he's not going to throw 29 passes, but if he throws 35 passes, he's not going to be –
Yeah, but it's the same thing with Mahomes.
Mahomes is not going to continue to produce at the level he's been producing.
So that's why you're selling high on those guys.
I know, but I still – I guess I've always sort of felt like the elite quarterbacks are more valuable than you guys think they are.
But all right.
Who are the elite quarterbacks?
To me, they are Mahomes, Rodgers, Roethlisberger.
Brady?
I don't know about that.
Oh, come on.
In a four-point-for-passing touchdown league, I'm not sure about that.
But six, yes.
He's just as good as Roethlisberger.
He should be.
I would rather have Roethlisberger than Brady.
In a four-point-for-passing touchdown league?
Roethlisberger doesn't run anymore.
In anything.
I mean, they're the same.
Brady's better.
A better player, yeah.
I don't know about better fantasy.
I mean, he hasn't been this year.
We're already sour on Cam and Deshaun, by the way.
You can say that they're a step below if you want.
Watson not in four-point for passing touchdowns.
He's amazing.
Yeah, Watson in four-point is definitely a lead.
Same with Cam.
Matt Ryan, I mean, I want to say it, but I got to see him have a good game on the road.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's not like the other positions are so obvious.
I think part of it is, would you put Luck in there too?
I think Luck is.
No, because he's thrown 120 passes the last two weeks.
That's part of it, though.
He's not going to throw 60 passes a game.
I can guarantee you that.
Probably going to throw 45.
Yeah, he is.
And if he threw 45, he'd be good.
He'd be good to very good.
He wouldn't be elite.
I think part of it, though, is we are collectively coming off of a week
where the streamers let us down.
And a lot of quarterbacks let us down.
A lot of the elite guys did.
Last week, I think...
I thought the elite guys were actually fairly good.
Well, the guys that were top...
Yes, the guys that had been bad so far
were good. The guys that we didn't...
Rogers is elite, but we didn't have him
ranked in our top five quarterbacks.
No, but you're starting Rogers every week.
That would be the point. You're starting maybe outside of Russell Wolfe.
You're starting those other guys every week.
Last week felt a lot like a 2017 week to me.
Last week was the first week where it felt like we escaped the craziness of 2018,
the bonanza of 2018 and went back to the normal fantasy football weeks.
So it felt like to me anyway.
And that's probably an anomaly. I assume what it felt like to me anyway. That's probably
an anomaly. I assume
we'll get more scoring going forward.
Houston 19, Dallas 16.
Another overtime game.
DeAndre Hopkins, all those spin moves.
151 yards. Very impressive.
What's your takeaway here
about Alfred Blue, Dave?
I thought he
did a terrible job rushing the football averaging a little more
than two yards per carry but he had eight catches eight targets eight catches for 73 yards
completely unexpected and really different like you don't you never saw deshaun watson
leaning on his running back so much in the passing game like he did in this one.
And sure, plenty of check downs, short passes, dumps, stuff like that.
But they can't block at all.
They didn't do that for Lamar Miller?
Like, that's exactly what you're supposed to do with Lamar Miller.
They didn't do it with him, but they did it with Alfred Blue.
It's mystifying.
It's another bad run defense fantasy-wise without Sean Lee there.
Yeah, and I feel like I look it up now.
Or defense against fantasy running backs.
Defense against, yeah.
I feel like they give up a lot in the passing game, the running backs.
But let's see if I'm right about that,
because I think Barkley had like 14 catches or something.
Well, I don't know.
Anyone else?
I want to know how healthy Will Fuller was.
Yeah, that's the thing.
So that's a big story here because QT had 51 yards and a touchdown on seven targets.
Will Fuller had two catches for 15 yards on three targets.
And he played 96% of the snaps, Will Fuller.
QT played 71% of the snaps.
For me, for somebody who's big on Will Fuller, has Will Fuller in some leagues,
that's a little nerve-wracking that QT has now been good two weeks in a row,
100 yards the previous week, and could take away.
We just talked about how Houston can't block anyone.
QT right now is running more of the types of routes that a quarterback would target
in a situation where he's running for his life.
Right, where you've got to go and work around
that offensive line.
He's going across the field, working the side,
and he's got speed to boot.
Alright, so that's
our summary.
Are we basically
down on Will Fuller, or are we in the
wait-and-see mode?
Wait-and-see. I think you're probably still starting him this week. Are we basically down on Will Fuller or are we in the wait and see mode?
Wait and see.
Yeah, I think you're probably still starting him this week.
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To the waiver wire.
All right, quarterbacks.
Oh, Dave, IDP.
Let's take a quick IDP detour.
What do you got?
So a lot of guys that are available in two-thirds of CBS leagues.
Defensive line, Leonard Williams has had good games back-to-back weeks.
Jets defense is starting to play a little bit better.
Geno Atkins is the one who we'll talk about who's the most owned at 32%. He's typically
good despite him being a defensive tackle. And Deshaun Hand, go take a look at him for Detroit.
He's actually had some nice numbers for a defensive lineman the last two weeks. Touchdown
maker Jerome Baker with the Dolphins. He's earned a bigger role in that defense. He's available in
96% of CBS leagues. Should be good for the rest of the season.
Devon Kennard in Detroit
also has put up some nice numbers lately.
Kennard, you're right.
Marcus May went under the radar
because he was hurt to begin the year.
Last week, huge game against Denver
and Colts up next.
I love him as a defensive back. He's
the other safety for the Jets.
Last but not least, Demonte Kazee.
I think it's Kazee.
Kazee.
He got ejected earlier this year, right?
He did get ejected earlier this year.
Yeah.
So, got marked.
He's lots of notoriety around him,
but at least 12 fantasy points in leagues where tackles count each of the last two weeks, available in 84% of CBS leagues.
Did you say Denzel Ward?
I know I said him earlier in the show.
No, because you said him.
Yeah, 19% owned.
This guy is a playmaker.
I mean, it's tough with cornerbacks.
You kind of need them to make a play, but he does make plays, and he's been awesome in three out of five weeks.
Acceptable in one week, and he had a bad game against Oakland in week four,
but that's fine.
Denzel Ward, 19% owned, awesome rookie, defensive back for the Cleveland Browns.
And Avery Williamson, did you mention Avery Williamson?
I did not.
He's actually 33% owned, so you might not be able to get him,
but he has eight, six, and seven tackles.
Jets linebacker in his last three games, eight, six, and seven tackles.
So a solid, dependable IDP player.
All right, now it's time for the quarterbacks.
Jameis Winston, 49% owned.
He's got nice weapons to play around with.
He's got the Falcons.
They allow the third most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Four straight quarterbacks have scored 27 or more against the Falcons in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues.
Then it's the Browns.
Well, we'll worry about that later.
But we want Winston for the Falcons.
Are there any high-profile quarterbacks you are sitting for Jameis Winston this week?
Heath, this is you.
This is your time to shine.
Most of them.
He's a top five for me.
I'd sit Deshaun Watson.
I'd sit Roethlisberger and Dalton.
I'd sit Goff, Rivers, Wentz, Luckothlisberger and dalton i'd sit golf rivers wince luck cam
okay yeah maybe i'll work my way i'm with you on all those two now do you feel like jamis winston
is a must own for the rest of the season or just for this week i feel like he'll be a top 10
quarterback from this point forward okay yeah so now um speaking about the rest of the quarterbacks, if you're desperate, Drew Brees on a bye, Matthew Stafford on a bye.
We got Baker Mayfield, 62% owned, and he's got the Chargers this week.
And like I said, they allow the ninth most fantasy points quarterbacks.
Then the schedule is just incredible for Mayfield.
At Tampa Bay, at Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Atlanta.
But for this week, is Mayfield a top 15 quarterback?
Not for me.
Okay.
Eli Manning with Philadelphia coming up.
Philadelphia has only played two road games.
They've been bad against Fitzpatrick and Mariota in those two road games.
They were bad against Eli last year.
They were bad against Eli twice.
800 passing yards in two games against them last year.
Yeah, he threw the ball a ton in those games.
But, yes, that happened.
I would rather have Baker Mayfield on my roster as a bench quarterback.
But if I need to start one this week, Eli is my second favorite streamer.
Yep, that's exactly how I wrote it.
But I also don't want to stream.
I mean, he's not a top 12 guy.
Right.
No.
He's a top 13 guy.
So let's say Cooks and Cup don't play and the Rams are at Denver.
Would you start Eli or Goff?
I'd still start Goff.
Eli.
I've got Goff.
All right.
Okay.
Have you seen the Broncos run defense?
Yeah, but have you seen Eli Manning?
Yeah.
He's got 23 points in two of his last three games.
He does.
And, you know, look, he threw two picks last week, but they threw the ball downfield.
He started taking some shots.
I'm so happy that Odell Beckham called him out because now we're going to get –
it was a great job by Odell Beckham.
Trubisky.
Trubisky was –
They're still going to win the division.
They keep getting help.
Yeah, it's a bad division.
Mitchell Trubisky.
Miami is his opponent this week.
They allow the second fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks.
But Trubisky is coming off a 55-point game before the bye.
He's 42% owned.
Do you feel any need to own Trubisky rest of season?
No.
Two quarterback leagues, 100%.
Well, okay, fine.
But other than that, one quarterback leagues, no.
Yeah, I mean, if you're in a league where Jameis is owned
and Eli is owned and Derek Carr is owned,
then I would start him this week against Miami if I had Drew Brees on a bye.
Wouldn't you rather have Baker?
I'd rather have Mitchell Trubisky.
I'd rather have Baker.
Okay, and we got Case Keenum.
Again, like you got to be.
I don't know how desperate he has to be because the Rams, they've been terrible the last two weeks against quarterbacks.
Three weeks.
Three?
Oh, no.
Rivers had 21 points.
Yeah.
That's terrible?
Well, I mean –
Come on, son.
Just in terms of their overall production allowed to quarterbacks, yes.
It's eight touchdowns, no interceptions the last three weeks, yes.
I believe for the Rams.
Pretty sure that's right.
CJ Beathard has had two solid games. 23 fantasy points.
20 fantasy points his last two games. He's at
Green Bay on Monday night.
With Keenum and Beathard, you've got guys who are going to be chasing
points. But let's be honest. Most of our fantasy owners are
not going to be relying on those guys.
Drop candidates. Alex Smith, Blake
Bortles, Derek Carr.
What about Carson Wentz?
How droppable is Carson Wentz?
Just playing it week by week.
He's got the Giants this week on Thursday.
I'd rather have Jameis.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, all right.
But let's say you can't get Jameis.
Or let's say you want to get a running back.
I mean, how droppable is Carson Wentz in general?
10 team leagues if you want to drop him, you drop him.
Should have done that before the season started.
But he's got 23 fantasy points in each of his last two games.
Yeah, and it should get better.
I don't think you should, you know, it's not one of those,
ugh, I'm sick of looking at your face, get off my team kind of drops.
It's, well, I want to go pick up one of the stud running backs off waivers this week
and the most likely drop candidate that won't get picked up so fast would be my backup quarterback.
That's Wentz, so bye, Carson.
And don't drop Andy Dalton.
I know he had a bad game against the Dolphins, but we love the schedule.
Pittsburgh at Kansas City, Tampa Bay, then a bye, then the Saints.
So four good matchups in the next five weeks.
Yeah, and just in defense of Andy Dalton, he averaged eight yards per attempt.
He had a bad fantasy day because his team scored two defensive touchdowns.
Yeah.
To the running backs.
So there are three guys who are owned in more than 65% of leagues that we haven't mentioned.
We could throw in Naeem Hyde.
Yeah, Hyde, 66% owned.
But the three that I was going to talk about, Javoris Allen, 79%, Tariq Cohen, 79%, Bilal Powell, 77%.
Who's your favorite there if you saw Javoris Allen, Tariq Cohen, Bilal Powell on your waiver wire?
I'd go after Cohen first because I think he has the most upside from week to week.
I'll go Bilal.
I think Powell would be third for me, believe it or not.
It was Powell, Cohen, or who?
Javoris.
Buck Allen.
I go Powell, Cohen, Allen.
The reason I don't say Buck Allen, by the way, just so everyone knows,
is just in case you're looking for him on your waiver wire and you can't find him.
His name is Javoris, spelled Javorius, but I think you know that by now. So are any of those guys, Tariq Cohen or Powell or Allen,
better in your mind to pick up than an Eagles running back?
No.
Maybe over Sproles, but not over Clement or Smallwood.
Yeah, I was just thinking of the top two guys.
Right.
All right, so Smallwood, Clement, Alfred Morris,
we've talked extensively about them.
Other running backs, Naeem Hines. Again,
when they trail, he's had five or more catches in four or five games. He had one catch at Washington,
and as I recall, they were leading. They were not playing from behind in that game.
Ronald Jones had 10 carries in week three. Comes off the bye to get Atlanta this week on the road.
Ronald Jones. Mike Davis.
21 carries without Chris Carson two weeks ago.
12 carries with Chris Carson.
68 yards and a touchdown this week.
Last week, excuse me.
So Mike Davis is available.
Latavius Murray is available.
He's got Arizona.
Alfred Blue.
I'll stop there.
Let's talk about Hines. Ronald Jones. Mike Davis. Latav got Arizona. Alfred Blue. I'll stop there. Let's talk about Hines,
Ronald Jones, Mike Davis,
Latavius Murray, and Alfred Blue.
Hines is a must-start in PPR,
but he probably falls behind a couple
of these guys for me in non-PPR.
Which ones?
Are we talking on a week-to-week
basis, or who's going to be good the rest of the season?
Jones is not somebody you want to pick up to start.
Jones is someone you want to pick up,
similar to what you said about Baker Mayfield Heath.
It's somebody you want to stash on your bench just to see what happens,
because if they come out of their bye week with a new quarterback
and a change in some philosophy by any stretch,
and he becomes a featured guy ahead of Peyton Barber,
he could be better than the Eagles guys,
he could be better than all these guys based on pedigree.
It's a huge leap of faith to say that.
But if you're just looking to speculate on talent, and it's a good offense.
They just haven't run the ball with any level of success.
But if you're just wanting to stash somebody after you try and get one of the Eagles running backs,
I would try and stash Ronald Jones.
Well, he could also be a beat-the-waver-wire guy because Atlanta's defense is so awful.
If he just catches the ball, he's going to be good.
Can he be a beat-the-waver-wire guy on the waiver-wire show?
I don't know.
It seems like it.
It's kind of the purpose of the show.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
We've got 17 running backs here.
Ronald Jones is 33% owned.
I guess he's below 40% owned going into Sunday.
Yeah, but I own a lot of JGI,
so I'll be dropping him for Smallwood, for Clement, if possible.
But I definitely will put in some claims for Ronald
Jones.
If I
don't need to start someone this week, I'm
probably going to pick up Jones over
certainly over Latavius Murray,
but over Mike Davis probably.
If you need somebody for this week,
you'd rather have Murray for sure
if Cook is out. And Blue. And Blue. If Miller need somebody for this week, you'd rather have Murray for sure if Cook is out.
And Blue.
And Blue if Miller's out.
But if we get to six, seven weeks from now, you're going to be, man, I wish I picked up Ronald Jones.
Maybe am I not giving Latavius Murray enough credit because like Dalvin Cook, maybe he plays this week.
I don't know.
But maybe this injury stifles him all year.
Is Murray a must-own guy, you think?
It's a great matchup for him against Arizona.
The Vikings have proven this year that while Cook is out,
they're not giving Murray every single carry.
They're using their undrafted running backs mixed in with him.
And I'll go back to what I said on Sunday and all last week.
I think Minnesota is a passing team now.
Yeah, it appears that way.
Yeah, so I like Murray.
I don't love him.
Mike Davis also has a great matchup.
The Raiders allow 5.1 yards per carry to running backs
and the fourth most fantasy points to running backs.
But it's going to be Carson who's the better one of the two, obviously.
Yeah, but do you think you get 12 carries from Mike Davis? most fantasy points than running backs. But it's going to be Carson who's the better one of the two, obviously.
Yeah, but do you think you get 12 carries from Mike Davis?
You could, yes.
Eight to ten.
All right.
So, look, you might get like a floor of four or five fantasy points and maybe a touchdown.
Who knows?
Deontay Foreman's a stash.
Jalen Richard.
How much better is Naeem Hines than Jalen Richard in PPR?
Significantly, because Hines gets that workload on a weekly basis.
Yeah, I think there will be weeks where Richard is very similar to him,
but I don't think it's this week,
because I think it's probably a pretty close game with Seattle.
Okay, well, here are the catches by week for Jalen Richard.
9-0-6-3-6.
For
Hines, it's like
five or more in four out of five
weeks. Also,
Frank Gore.
Frank Gore, is he a 12-carrier guy
game at this point? What did he have last week?
Week
before 8-11.
Frank Gore?
No one's excited about Frank Gore.
Deeper leagues if you're stuck.
Yeah, the problem is the Bears allow less than three yards per carry to running backs.
The second fewest fantasy points to running backs, so it's a bad matchup.
Kyle Juszczyk involved in the passing game.
He's 1% owned.
Marlon Mack, I don't know.
I'm not sure if you were planning on writing about Marlon
Mack, Jamie. He's 62% owned.
No, I wasn't. I ignored him on purpose
because he stinks. He stinks?
Yeah.
Can't stay healthy. Well, if he can't stay healthy, that's
for sure. Again,
that to me is like a Ronald Jones
category type player, Marlon Mack.
You're wishing and hoping, but if you just
lost to Jai and you need to burn
a roster spot, it's not the worst idea.
I hope they wait two
more weeks and then he's a full go
at Oakland and then he gets a bye to recover from that game.
Well, I hope not. I hope he plays this week.
You can drop a Jai.
I guess if you need to, you can drop Gio.
He's out one to three more weeks.
Jamal Williams, Peyton Barber, Duke Johnson, Rashad Penny.
These guys are droppable.
To the wide receivers.
All right, so I got three guys who are owned in more than 65% of leagues.
Are they must-owns?
Keelan Cole, DeeDee Westbrook, Tyler Lockett.
They are not must-owns.
Lockett has proven to be big player bust.
I think you could say the same thing for Westbrook.
Cole has been a disappointment, man.
I thought he'd be so much better.
Just the target shot.
I thought the breakout game was going to be against the Patriots
and that he'd be a floor of eight fantasy points the rest of the way.
Shame on me for trusting a Jaguars receiver,
but Moncrief has had good games,
and DeeDee's had a couple of decent games along the way,
and it's going to be a different guy each week.
Bortles, I don't think, can support multiple receivers
on a consistent basis.
I still think, and there are some guys that I'm excited about
having on my roster on the waiver wire.
For the most part, I would start these guys over the receivers you can get on the waiver wire this week.
You would start Cole, Westbrook, and Lockett over Godwin, Sanu, or MVS?
I'm excited about the potential of Chris Godwin, but we're going to have to see it after the bye with Jameis, too.
There's still three wide receivers, Cameron Brate, there.
So I don't feel comfortable starting him this week.
I want to own him.
I want to have him on my bench.
I don't want to start Chris Godwin.
I do.
I don't mind starting him.
How risky is it to pick up Marquez Valdez scantling?
I lowered him a little bit on the list I gave you, Adam,
so he's like fifth or sixth.
Right, because we don't know how long this is going to last for.
He made good on this opportunity against Detroit,
but Allison's on the way back.
He'll play before Scantling, and Cobb will play before MVS as well.
So if you're prioritizing him, it could be a waste of a waiver pick.
Kiki Kuti,
Chester Rogers.
Okay, yeah, I think underrated here.
Two straight games, eight catches
on 11 targets. Right, so
he's Indianapolis' slot receiver, but
he's not a great one. If you
watch the game against the Patriots, you saw
dropped a big pass,
couldn't come up with a touchdown on another throw from Luck.
He's one of those guys where he needs to get that consistent volume.
And he needs to make sure he doesn't drop passes anymore.
Otherwise, he'll lose his job.
But as long as he's in that slot role, again, another team with some offensive line issues.
And Luck's throwing a ton.
So by virtue of those things, he's going to get a lot of work and
he's got a great matchup provided he stays in the slot against the jets on sunday the jets have
allowed 100 yards to a wide receiver in four or five games this year and yeah chester rogers two
straight games with 11 targets and eight catches 66 yards last week 85 yards in week three i struggle
with him and ryan grant oh he's better than Ryan Grant.
Yeah, they have the same exact number of targets,
same exact number of catches.
Grant has more yards this year,
and he's the only one that scored a touchdown.
But the recent production has certainly started
to swing in Roger's favor.
Grant had the big one and has been disappointing ever since.
He had two more targets last week.
I go back and forth on it.
I think there's a good chance that we're saying
Ryan Grant's the better one in week six.
Could be.
Dante Moncrief had 76 yards on 15
targets, six catches at Kansas City.
They're at Dallas this week.
Is he their best receiver?
Not in terms of who he is,
but production-wise. If he gets 15
targets, he is.
Or 10. It's another week. What was it?
Two weeks ago, it was five?
He had five catches, right?
Or am I low on targets?
He had five targets, five catches, 10 am i low on the targets uh he had five
targets five catches 109 yards and a touchdown against the jets in week four dante moncrief
so two good games in a row two touchdowns three or five good games i mean the last the last three
games are exactly what jacksonville is right now because three weeks ago keelan cole had a team
with nine two weeks ago dd let him with not. Last week, Moncrief led them with 15.
It's another week, though, where I think that there are these wide receivers who are just barely owned.
I mean, Sanu's 41% owned.
Godwin's 49% owned. But QT,
38. Valdez-Scantling, 10%.
Chester Rogers, 9%. Dante Moncrief,
16%. And honestly,
all of the...
Many of the guys that we talked
about last week were good, at least usable.
So other guys that we haven't talked about yet.
Dave likes Robbie Anderson this week.
Christian Kirk is 20% owned.
He's at Minnesota.
I don't know.
Are you guys buying in yet or still deep leagues for Kirk?
Deep leagues.
There's one guy I forgot to mention just because a lot of guys, obviously.
Taylor Gabriel, 19%.
In the rearranged order that I have it here, I would put him fourth on the list behind.
Godwin, Sanu, QT, and ahead of now Valdez-Ganlin.
He's going to be bigger in PPR than not because of the volume that he gets,
but a lot of short targets that if he can't break away for a long game,
he'll be disappointed with the yardage. So I like him better in PPR. Yeah, the targets have been fantastic. because of the volume that he gets, but a lot of short targets that if he can't break away for a long game,
he'll be disappointed with the yardage.
So I like him better in PPR.
Yeah, the targets have been fantastic.
The targets have been, and the catches have been too,
but the yardage hasn't matched.
He had a deep target in that most recent game,
and he was, when he was in Atlanta, the deep guy.
He gets like one, maybe two every week, but most of them are short.
He's also facing a Dolphin secondary.
I thought the Bengals did a great job moving A.J. Green in the slot to avoid Xavier Howard.
And you would assume Robinson will get the most of Howard this week.
Okay.
We got Christian Kirk, Cameron Meredith.
By the way, that whole last conversation was about Taylor Gabriel.
Cameron Meredith, who had a nice game last night but is on a bye.
Traquan Smith, three catches, 111 yards, and two touchdowns, but on a bye.
Antonio Callaway is 50% owned.
You like him better than Rashard Higgins?
Well, Higgins is probably – he's definitely out already.
He has an MCL sprain.
So the way that I'm phrasing it in the column, and I would just look at it this way,
is if you're looking at the Browns' schedule and they do not add anybody,
then Callaway is going to get back in the good graces,
I would assume, of the Browns coaching staff.
But they're most likely going to sign Rashard Matthews this week.
So if you want to take a flyer on some receiver in a deeper league,
look at Rashard Matthews in case he does sign by Wednesday.
Most likely the transaction will happen today, though, Tuesday.
Trent Taylor, EQ St. Brown, Rashard Matthews, David Moore, Josh Reynolds. today though uh tuesday trent taylor eq st brown richard matthews david moore josh reynolds anybody uh putting in claims for trent taylor eq st brown richard matthews david moore josh reynolds
if cooks and cup were both out this week then i think reynolds would be a good guy to have you
have been on the reynolds bandwagon and it's never paid off. But I still think he's a good receiver.
With a great opportunity.
The reports we got on
Monday was that neither Cooks or
Cup had any symptoms from their concussion,
which makes it seem like they're
probably going to get through the protocol.
Tight ends. Evan Ingram, David
Njoku, and Greg Olson are owned in more than
65% of leagues. Ingram, Njoku, and
Olson, who would you prioritize there?
Olsen.
Nope. Ingram.
Yuck.
Yuck. All these guys
stink. I'll take
the one who has played better
the past two seasons
than the over-the-hill tight end that can't.
Ingram's played better the past two seasons?
Evan Ingram? Better than Greg Olsen?
So in his rookie year?
No.
This year and last year.
Yeah.
Olsen was really bad last year when he came back from the foot injury.
I don't know what's happening.
He really had two good games, including the playoffs.
But the other games, he didn't have more than 27 yards
in his other five games or something like that.
I would rather have Cameron Brait than all of these guys.
Well, if you're streaming, that makes tons of sense.
Cameron Brait over Greg Olson?
I was a little concerned about Olson coming into the year
because of the injuries and whatnot,
but gosh, their receiving core is so bad,
and they've got to throw to him.
I don't know if they have to.
I hope they do, and I think that they're –
I can't start him this week, and I don't like carrying two tight ends.
We just talked about 75 wide receivers to add and 15 running backs.
Yeah, right, right.
So here's the thing.
We don't know if we can start Greg Olson yet.
If he goes through three practices, then what's the harm?
It sounds like he could come back this week,
but I'm not sure if he's in the right thing to do.
The harm is re-injury risk and the fact that he has one game
with more than 33 yards since 2016.
Right, which is why I'd rather have Evan Engram on my bench
waiting for him to come back.
Because he did it in the playoff. Because he did it in the playoffs.
He had 100 yards in the playoffs.
But if we're comparing Olsen to Brait this week, I think I like Brait better.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I mean, Olsen, I don't think we can just write him off as a guy that won't play this week.
I may view Brait differently, too.
And for as long as O.J. Howard is out, I think he's a top 10 tight end regardless of who he's playing.
Sure.
What about Hooper?
Would you start him over Olsen if Olsen
plays? Yes.
I would. I think so.
We talked about it.
Just missed a touchdown two weeks ago. Had
12 targets, 9 catches, 77 yards
last week at Pittsburgh.
He is a guy that lets you down when you count on him.
But tight end is tight end.
Hayden Hurst, C.J. Uzoma, Jeff Swaim, and Ryan Griffin are on this list.
Discuss.
Ting.
Uzoma now gets another tight end out of the way because Tyler Croft is hurt.
Yeah, he's my favorite of this group for this week.
I hope that we see Hayden Hurst's activity ramped up a little bit this week.
Mine too, but I still like Swain.
I like the role that he's got in this Dallas offense.
All right, DSTs.
So I mentioned Houston.
They're 74% owned.
Have the Niners been bad against DSTs the last two weeks?
Because Beathard's been a lot better.
The Chargers nearly had two defensive touchdowns against them.
That's true.
Okay.
And now they may be down Moncrief.
They're down another running back.
I mean, I know Alfred Morris has this great opportunity,
but it's Alfred Morris in Lambeau.
Yeah.
Monday night.
Seahawks at Oakland.
Cowboys against Jaguars is pretty interesting to me with how beat up the Jaguars D-line is.
The number three DST in fantasy is still only 40% owned.
The Browns.
But the Chargers have just been so efficient.
They have been, but road game going east.
Maybe, but you know how many teams have had 10 or more fantasy points,
DSTs, 10 or more fantasy points against the Chargers this year?
I would assume zero.
Zero is the correct answer, Heath.
Well done.
Thank you. But they play a lot of crappy defenses, though.
The Chiefs, the Rams.
The Rams were not... Here come the Browns.
The Rams were not a crappy defense when they played them.
Well, they were. Why?
They've been a crappy defense all season. The Rams?
Yeah. The Rams can't rush a passer.
I don't know if they're a crappy defense,
though. I mean...
They have a lot of big names. They've just been a crappy defense.
I don't know. I thought the first three
weeks they were pretty solid,
and then Tlaib got hurt.
Peter's playing hurt.
Well, they had one game against the Cardinals.
Would you like to know where they rank among DSTs?
I'm sure that they score.
No, because they were crap the last two weeks.
All I know is Philip Rivers had an okay game against them.
They are ranked fifth among DSTs with 60 fantasy points,
one point more than the Jaguars.
And I also think that they scored 14 points.
The Rams. 14 points against the Chargers.
Their DST has played well.
Their defense is horrible.
Their DST the last two weeks has been horrible.
Right.
But the Chargers 10 points.
Such a useless discussion.
Speaking of useless discussion,
Jamie's three kicker streamers are Ryan Suckup,
Cairo Santos, and Cody Parkey.
I like Emi Fairbair. He's been gooder streamers are Ryan Suckup, Cairo Santos, and Cody Parkey. I like Emi Fairbear.
He's been good.
Every week you seem to like him.
Nobody adds him. I like Mason Crosby, guys.
You're looking for the bounce back?
There it is.
You can steal some points.
You got a revenge game for a kicker, too.
Who's that? Cody Parkey.
Jamie writes 5,000 words a week on kickers, so check it out.
CBSSports.com slash fantasy.
Get all that kicker advice.
All right, we'll read your emails tomorrow.
We got team name Tuesday.
I got one email for you.
Yeah, but what's it say?
What's the subject?
The subject is...
Got to go back.
Garoppolo, bye.
For Dave, for Jamie, for Heath, I'm Adam.
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