Fantasy Football Today - 10/10: Start or Sit (AFC); Tough Schedules; Big News (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

Odell Beckham, Kenny Golladay and the Eagles have some tough matchups coming up. Does it matter? Should you trade these guys? Then let's get to Week 6 as we have our Tullamore Dew Player of the Week from each of our analysts (7:23) ... Some stats to know for Week 6 (11:50) and a lot of big news (13:13) as Todd Gurley and David Johnson could sit this week. And we've got 60-second rankings disputes (17:00) for Philip Rivers, Phillip Lindsay, Courtland Sutton and more, plus our thoughts on the Chargers RBs (29:50) ... HOU-KC (31:22), NO-JAC (42:20), DAL-NYJ (46:40), SEA-CLE (50:10), CIN-BAL (56:50), TEN-DEN (1:04:10), WAS-MIA (1:08:00). Are we good with Will Fuller this week? What about Joe Mixon in a tough matchup? Can Gardner Minshew make it happen again?... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We got some fun AFC home games to talk about this week. We got a not fun game to start off week six Thursday night. About half the Giants are showing up in Foxboro to face the Patriots, but it's all going to get better after that. Welcome to the Thursday edition of FFT. I am Adam Azer with Dave Richard, Heath Cummings, Jamie Eisenberg. Good morning to you guys. It's good to see you. How are you?

Good morning to you guys. It's good to see you. How are you? Good morning to you, too. It's good to see you, too. Are we allowed to talk about you not hitting record on the 15 minutes of podcast that we just got done doing? I think it was about five minutes. It probably was more than five, Adam. Sorry the podcast is coming out late today. You know, we got off to a great, rollicking start. We had a really good talk about the Thursday game.

Adam gave us a huge confession that I can't believe he said on air. And then he says we have to stop the podcast. I forgot to hit record. Yeah, it's true. This is your job is to hit record. Hitting record is part of my job description. It is the first part of my job description, and I screwed it up. So we had all this great banter to start the show.

We're not going to do that anymore. We're going to go right into the content here, although I'm going to tell you at some point about a good Russell Wilson stat, a good Andy Dalton stat, a great Pittsburgh Steelers stat that I'm sure you already saw on Twitter because it was that great.

I'm sure it's trending. But first, schedule alert. So yeah, it is a starter set episode, but we're also going to talk a little bit of trade value here. Odell Beckham. Let's look at Odell Beckham's schedule. His next five games, the Seahawks are this week at home.

They allow the eighth-fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. Then he's got to buy, and then it's the Patriots, the Broncos, the Bills. They're all top four. It's in the four, you know, of the four best teams against wide receivers. You know, I'm not sure how I feel about the Seahawks, but it looks like a terrible five-week stretch for Beckham. Seahawks, bye, Patriots, Broncos, Bills. Dave, what does that mean for Beckham's trade value right now?

It means that he is not a top-12 receiver on the trade chart as of this moment. And I don't know if he'll bounce back into the top 10 even with a good game against Seattle because of all those landmines in his way. of this moment. And I don't know if he'll bounce back into the top 10, even with a good game against Seattle, because of all those landmines in his way coming up over the next couple of weeks. So, Jamie, Heath, your thoughts on Beckham? Is he still a good buy low,

or is it just going to be tough sledding for him? It's probably going to be tough sledding, but if you can fact-edit into what you're trying to sway the other owner to trade him to you. I mean, look, if Beckham is Beckham and Mayfield is going to challenge these defenses, he may stink, but Beckham should still have the chance to put up some good games along the way. It may not be 100 and a touchdown in each of those matchups, but if he gets you 50 in a score or he scores, goes over 100 yards, like you said, we haven't seen

the Patriots defense fully tested. Denver, Chris Harris against Beckham, I think Beckham has a chance to win that matchup. Who knows if there's any injuries along the way between now and then. You're not going to probably, if you're selling Beckham, get the

value of what he was drafted at. But at the same time, you may be able to get him a little bit cheaper if you say, look, do you really want to play Beckham against those teams if the owner is looking to sell? Okay, let's talk about Kenny Galladay. Kenny Galladay has got 11 games left, not including Week 17. Six of those 11 games are against the Bears, the Vikings, the Broncos in Week 16, and the Cowboys. Those teams have good cornerbacks. They've been good against wide receivers.

They appear to be bad matchups for Kenny Gallaudet. Minnesota, Chicago, Dallas, Chicago, Minnesota, Denver. Those are six of his next 11 games. He also has the Giants. He has the Raiders. He has the Redskins. That's really good. He has the Bucs in Week 15.

Green Bay this week, not sure. I mean, they didn't look great against receivers last week, that's for sure. But Heath, what do you think about Kenny Galladay? Would you try to see what you can get for him right now or just ride it out? This is the kind of situation where he's got six bad matchups. He's got four or five great matchups.

I'm going to mostly just look at it as a neutral schedule situation and not really factor it in my evaluation of Kenny Galladay's value moving forward. All right. And then Philadelphia, an awful schedule coming up. At Minnesota this week, at Dallas, at Buffalo, the Bears, a bye, the Patriots, the Seahawks. And then it gets really good.

But, you know, we've talked about it a little bit. I just want one final thought on the Eagles. At Minnesota, at Dallas, at Buffalo, Chicago, bye, New England, Seattle. What do you do? know we've talked about it a little bit i just want one final thought on the eagles at minnesota at dallas at buffalo chicago by new england seattle what do you do well i think the only eagle that's going to get prime return and trade is urts i don't think you're going to get a ton for jordan howard or miles sanders or alshon jeffrey and carson wentz's quarterback so the value is going to be depressed there anyway and you could ask for a decent amount for Zach Ertz. He's coming off of a pretty good game and the tough matchups aren't going to

sway the Eagles from throwing the football. And I wonder how many of those tough matchups are actually going to be tough for Ertz going up against the linebackers and safeties on some of those teams. Like Minnesota is going to be legitimately tough. But some of those other ones, I'm not sure they'll be as tough. Tight end seems to be the one area that these defenses don't necessarily shut down. And I don't want to sell Zach Ertz and then miss out on the Giants and Washington in the fantasy playoffs. Ooh.

No. Right, exactly. Hold Zach Ertz. The problem is that what's your Zach Ertz replacement? Right. Forget Ertz. What about the other guys? Like Dave said, you're trading essentially fringe players.

If you can get any starter for Jordan Howard, go do it. Of course. Any starter. Of course. I made an offer. It's a 10-team league where somebody has Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson. I have Wentz. I offered Wentz and Marquise Brown because this owner's receivers are terrible.

So I offered Wentz and Marquise Brown for either quarterback, and I got rebuffed. So I don't know what the market is for Carson Wentz because of the position that he plays. I think people are probably somewhat concerned about another injury coming. Okay. Would you try to get whatever you could for Alshon Jeffrey? I mean, how confident are we going to be in him

with these matchups? It's the same thing. I mean, he's in that same situation with Howard and the backs and, you know, with Wentz. It's just I don't think people are looking to buy Alshon Jeffrey. I think he's one of those guys that's a throw-in. You hope that he's coming off a game where he scores, or, you know, if you're in a PPR league like we saw last week,

you know, if he's getting you 12 points, that's not a bad day for him. Okay. So I just want to ask about Kenny Galladay with these matchups. Would you trade Kenny Galladay for Mike Evans? To get Evans, yes. Yeah. I think you could do that.

I mean, I think the Mike Evans owner would take Galladay coming off some good performances. He's already had his bye. I'm not sure the Mike Evans owner would do that. Well, I think some could do that. I mean, I think the Mike Evans owner would take Gallaudet. Coming off some good performances. He's already had his bye. I'm not sure the Mike Evans owner would do that. Well, I think some of them would. I think some of them would. The Tampa Bay bye is after this week. If Evans has a bad game this week and then he's going into his bye week, I think the Gallaudet trade could happen.

If Gallaudet beats up the Packers. And he could have a bad game. He does not have a good history against Carolina. No, terrible. Yep. All right. Here we go. Let's get into week six a little bit. Here is not have a good history against Carolina. No, terrible. All right, here we go. Let's get into week six a little bit.

Here is the game time, Tully time, player of the week presented by Tullamore Dew. Dave, Jamie, and Heath are going to select a player who they think can surprise us in week six. Who wants to go first in Tully time? Yeah, I'm excited to go first in Tully time. I've been waiting for this all day uh john hilleman i'll go with one of your new york giants i think he could surprise in a volume role against the

patriots defense we've seen some like the bills running backs at 177 yards against this patriots defense so that's a possibility he could catch five passes like the washington running backs did last week i think you could very easily see a situation where he's a possibility. He could catch five passes like the Washington running backs did last week. I think you could very easily see a situation where he's a top 24 running back, and they might even score a touchdown, and he might be the guy to do it. So, John Hilleman. I'm checking you out to see how

you're going to look with the Minshew mustache because of our bet. Yeah, there's no way. Hilleman versus Jordan Howard. There's no way you're going to shave? There's no way he's going to be worse than Jordan Howard. Oh, it's a real crap battle. I wish it was both on Sunday, though, so you could watch it go back and forth to see if it was, you know, like, you're going to know. Right, I might show up tomorrow with a Minshew mustache. We had this bet last year.

We had the same, not a Minshew bet, but a Thursday-Sunday bet. I remember. I crapped the bet on Thursday night, and then Dave's guy was even worse on Sunday. That's how these bets always go. Now you've got two running backs who are going to be absolute disaster. Hopefully they're great. Wait, wait, wait. What's the bet? You're referring to a bet that nobody knows about. Next week,

whoever has a worse game, I have Hilleman. Dave has Jordan Howard. It's the PPR scoring for this week's games. Right. The other one has to wear a men's shoe next week. OK. OK. Like a real one. But we have to shave. We have to shave. One of these chins will be shaved. So I just want to let you know, I did read an article yesterday where Pat Shermer was. It seemed like Eli Penny. I wouldn't be shocked if Eli Penny got more work than Hilleman because Hilleman was so bad and he's so inexperienced.

I just want to let you know, Heath. So make the bet at your own risk. The bet's been made. The bet is done. This is why you have to watch CBS Sports HQ. This is the kind of stuff that you see on there happen organically right on a fantasy football today. All right, Dave, who's your who's your tell game time, telly time, player of the week? I'm going to go with Vance McDonald

of the Pittsburgh Steelers. And this might be the second time this year I'm saying something nice about Vance McDonald, but he's healthy and what's an easy outlet. Yeah, that's true. But hopefully he'll make it for the game. He played last week. An easy target for an inexperienced quarterback

is the tight end. And it just so happens that the Chargers starting safeties are banged up we've talked about this for a while their linebackers don't necessarily cover tight ends very well this is going to be a nice short area target as an alternative to the run game for the steelers to go with so i think if you're really looking for a tight end and you're tired of jared cook and maybe even delaney walker i think vance mcdonald can suit up for you is does anybody at all interested in Noah Vance against the Titans on this same topic? No, slightly. Slightly.

He's not involved. Well, he gets, last week he only had one target. Before that, I think he had four targets, you know, like three or four targets a game. Right. He's a low-volume tight end. You have to hope that he makes a play after the catch. Or, yeah, in the end zone. Jamie, who's your game time, telly time player of the week?

I'll go a little speculative with Malcolm Brown, just in the off chance that Todd Gurley does not play. Showed up on the injury report Wednesday. Sean McVay expressed some concern about the quad injury. And, you know, you look at the last two games for Gurley, he's clearly dominated playing time, 65 and 67 snaps that he's played. And what will help Malcolm Brown will be falling in the end zone like he did in week one against Carolina.

Gurley has fallen in the end zone twice each of the last two games. So tough matchup against San Francisco if he does get the starting nod. But if he does, you're going to make him a must-play guy. There's two guys that could be superstars. One is Malcolm Brown. The other is Chase Edmonds. Two guys that are dealing with injury plays. We talked about it on

Tuesday. I think they could, well, in Edmonds' case on Tuesday, but I think they're similar. Edmonds would have a higher ceiling just because of the matchup for him, but both guys would be startable if they're starters in front of them around. And David Johnson did not practice on Wednesday, so the Chase Edmonds claims

are looking better than you might have expected. Okay, yeah. We might as well get into the big news. Just want to give a few stats here for you to chew on before we preview these games. The Chiefs have now gone 11 straight home games without allowing more than 22 fantasy points to a quarterback in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. Based on the rankings, we expect that to end this week with Deshaun Watson. Yeah. The Saints have allowed 100 yards to a

wide receiver in four or five games. They face Jacksonville. Russell Wilson has two bad games and three great games this season, which to me is like the most Russell Wilson thing. In his bad games, the defense was pretty good. They allowed 20 points to Cincinnati and 10 points to Arizona.

They're facing a team that scores the eighth-fewest points per game in the NFL. So just something to chew on. Nothing you're going to do anything with this week, but maybe just a trend to keep an eye on. We're talking that game today, right, Adam? Yep. Yeah, that's Seattle at Cleveland. Tennessee has not allowed double-digit fantasy points in non-PPR to a running back yet.

It's a little fluky, but something to keep in mind as they face Phillip Lindsay, who we'll talk about. And the Steelers and their time of possession is so weird. The Steelers are second worst in the NFL in time of possession. They have already faced the best team in time of possession, the second best team, and the fourth best team. They're going to face the third best team this week. So I don't know they're going to have the ball that much. Keep that in mind when you make your James Conner decisions and whatnot. But they might have Mason Rudolph.

All right, big news, guys. Patrick Mahomes says his ankle won't limit his ability to scramble. I think he's a top three quarterback for everybody. Todd Gurley, thigh contusion. David Johnson, back injury. Pick up Malcolm Brown. He's 50% on. Pick up Chase Edmonds. He's 46% on. Daryl Henderson is 20% on.

What kind of role do you think he would have if, and we're not saying Gurley and Johnson are out, but you've got to prepare for it. If Gurley's out, what kind of role do you think Daryl Henderson would have? He might be the one that wraps Todd Gurley's thigh. Oh, yeah. I you think Daryl Henderson would have? He might be the one that raps Todd Gurley's thigh. Oh, yeah. I think he'd play on passing house, though. He could. I mean, Malcolm Brown

just doesn't profile like that type of player. So I think that could be where they try to force Henderson in the preseason that they can get some opportunity to play him in that role. How much do they trust him in that role, though? If it's not staying into pass block, probably a lot.

If they're using him as a protector, then probably a little. So it depends on what the play call is. If he's running wheel routes and dump off passes, then it's easy to use him. He might get a couple of catches. What else we got? Christian McCaffrey mispracticed with a back injury, but this is not one that we're concerned

about, right? No, but it's just another reason to go handcuff him if you have an open roster spot. Reggie Bonifone. Tyreek Hill limited in practice. Sammy Watkins missed practice. At this point, are we thinking Hill in, Watkins out?

Getting that way, yes. Right. Now we're not ranking either one of them. They said that Tyreek needs to get a full practice in before he can play. Hopefully that happens today. Let's see. Julio Jones didn't practice. Are we worried about Julio Jones? Not yet. Okay. Welcome to Julio

Jones didn't practice. We dealt with that a lot last year. Well, it's Veteran Wednesday, too. A lot of guys don't practice. If he doesn't practice on Thursday, that's when you might raise one eyebrow. Hunter Henry was limited at practice. Do we think he plays?

It's getting closer. Probably not this week, but soon. Christian. Oh, sorry. Christian Kirk was limited at practice. We'll preview that game against Atlanta tomorrow. Hopefully Kirk can get back out there. Unbelievable.

Chris Herndon has a hamstring injury and he's not coming back this week. So that game is today. Dallas at the Jets. We'll talk about that one. Mason Rudolph still in the concussion protocol. There were a few players who were still in the concussion protocol but returned to practice, so we can be a little optimistic,

but just not sure. Mason Rudolph, TJ Hawkinson. There was one more I don't remember. Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks? Yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, Brandon Cooks. Case Keenum is expected to start. Josh Gordon and Julian Edelman are questionable, but they'll play.

Rex Burkhead's questionable. He might not play. Philip Dorsett is out. Evan Ingram out. And Saquon Barkley is out. And you can't see it right now. I've got to stand up. Ready?

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Every day from noon to 1, watch Fantasy Football today. If you miss it, watch it again later in the day on demand. CBS Sports HQ, download the CBS Sports HQ app. All right, let's do some 60-second rankings disputes. And let's talk about Phillip Rivers. So Rivers, this is going to be Dave versus Heath. Not separated by too much in the rankings, but Dave, you have Rivers 18th.

He's going to be very disappointed in you. And Heath 12th. I thought you loved him. I do love him. It's not unconditional love. I play fantasy football with my brain, not my heart. Okay, against Pittsburgh, 18th for Dave, 12th for Heath, 14th for Jamie. Dave, you're on the clock. You have 30 seconds.

Go. I am very concerned about what this offensive line is starting to look like in L.A. Now they lost Mike Pouncey for the year. That's the center, so the interior of that line is ugly. Can he come back? The exterior, I think he can, but it ain't going to be this week against the Steelers. And since the trade for Minka Fitzpatrick,

the Steelers have held Garoppolo, Andy Dalton, Lamar Jackson to less than 15 fantasy points each. So I'm nervous about Phillip Rivers finding two touchdowns and getting a lot of yardage. I think there'll be some turnovers along the way. He's outside of my top 12 for sure. And I just started looking at the other streaming quarterbacks and I thought, you know what, they've got a better chance at getting 250 and two than Philip Rivers does. So I'm going to sit my guy. Yeah, I don't, I don't love rivers this week. I've got him 12th. I would definitely start Gardner Minshew over him, but there's not

any other streaming options that I prefer to him. I still think he's got Keenan Allen. He's got Mike Williams. He's got Austin Eckler. He's got plenty of short area targets to dump the ball off. I'm not sure that they can run the ball. The offensive line is not opening any holes at all. He may have to throw it a little more than they would like to kind of use Austin Eckler in the passing game as the running game. So I think the yardage will be fine. I've got him for 280 and two. Maybe he throws a pick. He's a borderline starter. I think Austin Eckler could have another 8, 9, 10 catch game. That's a name that I have to move up in my PPR rankings for sure. Definite opportunity for him here.

Jamie versus Dave for the second one. I mentioned that in non-PPR, no running back has scored double-digit fantasy points against Tennessee. Well, part of that is Dontrell Hilliard and Ido Smith scored touchdowns, or else Devontae Freeman and Nick Chubb would have gotten there. But still, no huge games. But Phillip Lindsey against the Titans. Jamie, you have him 15th in PPR.

Dave, 24th. He's actually the high guy, has him 12th in PPR. And Lindsey has four catches in four or five games. But, Jamie, I'll give you the first word on Phillip Lindsey. 15th for you, 24th for Dave. Yeah, I feel like I'm too high to be honest with you. I'm worried about the matchup against the Titans just because of what you said.

They're very good against the run. And, you know, you've seen Lindsey now take advantage of really two good situations. The Packers when they were, you know, just awful against running backs. Then last week, you know, you had no Melvin Ingram and then Denzel Perryman got hurt in the game and he took off and had a strong performance. I'm hopeful that the role in the passing game

will continue to sort of elevate him a little bit and he keeps that four-catch floor, but I don't think you're going to see the same type of running lanes and he's still not playing more snaps than him. So I'm a little bit concerned. I think he's, you know, I probably

still have him ranked a little bit higher than Dave does, but I should move him a little bit closer to 20. I think where I have him in the teens is still a little bit too high. I know that's not a good defensive. No, that's fine. But, and here I am supposed to poo-poo Phillip Lindsay. Here's just something that I want to say that might help you feel good about Phillip Lindsay is that in the last three games, the Titans have allowed 22 catches to opposing running backs. That's on 27 targets. So that's a high catch rate allowed to running backs. They haven't scored any touchdowns through the air.

And only on the year have the Titans allowed two touchdowns to a running back, period. But there could be some yardage there. It would be smart for the Broncos to lean on Phillip Lindsay more out of the backfield as a pass catcher. Maybe even can break past that four-catch barrier that we've seen him kind of hit his ceiling against so far this season. I don't hate him terribly in PPR because there are so many other running backs that you just look at and you go, ugh.

That's kind of right. But it's a tough week for running backs, and it's clearly a tough matchup for the Broncos running backs. When we did this with the Titans last year, about this point where they had been really good defensively in terms of fantasy points allowed, and we're like, but they're not actually good. And like looking at them right now,

they're giving up 4.6 yards per carry to running backs and six and a half yards or six and a half catches per game. I don't know that it's a terrible matchup for the Broncos running back. The thing, I mean, look, we can dissect the performance against them. I mean, you go back to the Leonard Fournette game where he was just terrible and then he breaks off the one big run. That's exactly right.

That's the game where Jordan Wilkins had the big run against them too, right? Well, they were weeks two and three. Right. Those two plays have grossly inflated their rushing average. But Frank Gore and TJ Yeldon averaged 4.8 yards per carry last week. Right. They did. They had 75 yards on 16 yards.

They're not a layup. Okay. Like, they're obviously a respectable defense. I just, you know. Right. With Lindsey, he's had three bad games and two great games. He just doesn't get that much work. I don't think, unless you have great options, you're benching him outright.

But I also don't think you should expect the two ceiling games that we've seen from him when when those two situations have been a little bit better the only thing i'd push back on that you said alam adam as far as alam as far as the work goes like yeah he's in a committee and has to split everything and doesn't play that many snaps but he has one game with fewer than 15 touches he has two games with fewer than 17 yeah it's it's's weird that Freeman's playing more, but Lindsey's touching the ball more. It's one of those things where snap count can fool you.

Lindsey also getting almost all of the work inside the five-yard line. I think Joe Mixon's next. This will be Jamie versus Heath. Jamie, you have him 17th in PPR. No, this is non-PPR. PPR, everybody's got Mixon around 20th. In non-PPR, Mixon, Jamie, you have him 17th.

Heath, you have him 26th. Heath, I'll give you the first word on Joe Mixon. I'm just scared of the Bengals falling behind in this game by a couple of scores and not throwing it very much and the ineffectiveness of their ability to block anybody. This might be a good enough matchup to where they can get the run game going a little bit, but I'm just scared of mixing in all formats.

I like the workload the last couple of games, but I'm with you, too. It's one of those things where you're starting him by default. It's not a good matchup. We've seen when Brandon Williams is in there versus when he's not and he's healthy, how good this Ravens run defense can be. You need him to fall in the end zone, and he scored once, I think, so far, and it was on a reception. So he's sort of in that same way I feel about Phillip Lindsay. Like, you're just kind of starting him by default.

Because what are you going to do? You're really going to start Kenyon Drake or Adrian Peterson? You're really going to go with Carlos Hyde over Joe Mixon? You can, and it wouldn't be a shock if those guys are better. It's just, I think you buy into, it's the same thing with Lindsey, you buy into what their workload is, and you hope that this is one of those games where they end up with quality production and not terrible.

And do you have the 49ers behind them? Yes. Okay, see, I think that's where, because I've got those are the guys right in front of me. And the fact that they're splitting, that makes me really nervous. Yeah, I agree. I like Mixon better than the Niners too. Last one is Cortland Sutton.

Cortland Sutton against Tennessee. Heath, you've got him 14th. You're debating against both Dave and Jamie here. They have Cortland Sutton 25th. We like Cortland Sutton, but Heath likes Sutton quite a bit more at 14th in PPR. Yeah, I like the fact that it seems like over the last three weeks, he's established himself as the number one in Denver. Ten more targets than Emmanuel Sanders over that stretch,

and he's playing like he deserves it. He's being targeted heavily in the red zone. And listen, I was flat out wrong about him in the offseason. He's made huge strides as a wide receiver and always had the physical talents. I'm mostly just treating him like a high-end number two wide receiver now. And I'm treating him more like a low-end number two wide receiver this week against Tennessee. I appreciate their defense.

I don't appreciate Joe Flacco as a passer. Yes, they connected on a 70-yard touchdown last week. It was Corlin Sutton doing a lot of work, and it was a matchup against a Chargers secondary that allows all kinds of flubs from week to week. I don't think Tennessee will allow quite as many. I think he can get you 13 to 15 in PPR, which is why he's a top 25 receiver for me.

I don't see the upside, and I could see the touchdown streak that he's on snapping. I just wonder if, to what Heath said, that they're still viewing Sanders as the number one guy. He's still drawing the tougher coverage. That's opening things up a little bit for Sutton. The thing about the Titans defense is it's almost like their pass defense and their run defense sort of marry each other. Like there's so many good players in their secondary, but they give up busts from time to time.

And it's like they should be a little bit better than what sometimes they end up doing. Like Malcolm Butler gets lost usually once or twice a game. And so that's kind of where I think Sutton will win. It's the same thing, I think, with Lindsey and Mixon. If you've been starting Sutton the last couple of games, why would you bench him? But I just don't think there's the same ceiling for him like we've seen the last couple of weeks. Tennessee's faced some good wide receivers. Beckham had 7 for 71.

T.Y. Hilton had 4 for 43 and a touchdown. Julio Jones had 4 for 52. Some other wide receivers have done better though. DJ Chark had a better game. D.D. Westbrook left some stats on the table. Mohamed Sanu had 91 yards. John Brown 5 for 75. They've been pretty good against wide receivers

but not unbeatable. A lot of receivers that you named that were in that 14 fantasy point range in PPR. Yeah, that's true. All righty. News and notes. Finish up here.

Deshaun Jackson expected to miss this week's game. TJ Hawkinson. We don't know yet. They got the Monday night game. So he's still in the concussion protocol, but you might want to make alternate plans. Vontaze perfect. Officially out for the season.

A keep to leave Rams cornerback. He's day-to-day with a rib injury. Dolphins wide receiver Albert Wilson could return this week. Cleveland could finally be getting back their starting cornerbacks. Greedy Williams and Denzel Ward against Seattle. Jalen Ramsey was limited at practice. Still thinking no on Ramsey, right?

I mean, he's getting closer. The fact that he's practicing is a good sign. All right. Vernon Davis was limited at practice. They're at Miami in the game of the week. Mike Pouncey, you guys said he might come back. I thought he's officially out for the season with a neck injury, but it doesn't matter. Oh, no, I just asked a question.

I wasn't sure. Okay, I think he's out for the year. I think when you're placed on IR, the option is always there to come back. It really just depends on – Well, there's two different types. There's designated to return and not designated to return. Right, but isn't it anybody that goes on IR and is eligible? Right, so I mean, he could have torn his ACL and technically...

They don't have to make him their player to be designated to return. Right, until they're ready to have him return. I don't know if that's going to happen or not. Right, well, the Chargers line is banged up. So is the Chiefs line. So is the Niners line. They're going to be starting two rookies at tackle, at left and right tackle.

And now no use check. That run game could be starting two rookies at tackle, at left and right tackle. That's scary. And now no use tech. That run game could be in trouble. That's scary, yeah. And they're at the Rams this week. Washington guard Brandon Scherf, limited in practice, could get back out there. Carolina left tackle Greg Little

has a chance to play this week. Tampa Bay could be without the starting right side of their offensive line in London against the Panthers. They will be without the starting right side of their offensive line. Their starting right tacklethers. They will be without the starting right side of their offensive line. Their starting right tackle is going to be out for several weeks, and their starting right guard played through a broken arm last week.

Yikes. And DJ Fluker for Seattle is out. So, yeah. I don't know that we care, but he's a good little run blocker there for Chris Carson. That depends on who, yeah. The guy that came in for him was pushing people around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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but we haven't talked about the Chargers running backs. So, curious how you feel about Melvin Gordon and Austin Eckler this week in that Chargers game. They remain number two fantasy running backs. I think you can. I think you can trust.

Yeah, sure. Yes. But Eckler ahead of Gordon. Gordon a little more touchdown dependent than Eckler. Eckler more catches than Gordon by a significant margin. I'd start Gordon over Eckler in non-PPR. I think the 16 total touches in his first game back is a good indication that the workload will start to get a little bit more ramped up.

And I still think, like I said last week, he has a better chance to score if they get inside the five. So how would you rank Eckler and Gordon with Philip Lindsay? Ahead. Lindsay. Eckler, Lindsay, Gordon and PPR. Agreed. And Gordon, Eckler, Lindsay and none.

Agreed. Guessing. Yep. But yeah, it's real close to that. Boy, man. What did Eckler have? Three carries last week? Right.

Not a lot. One was inside the five. Was it? Not a lot. One was inside the five. Was it? I know he had a catch inside the five. Yeah, at the end of the first half, he had the fumble out of the end zone. Oh, I thought that was a catch. I thought it was a carry. Okay.

Yeah, no, I could easily be wrong. They were in a hurry up, and the fumble, I know people are going to say he's got a fumble problem. It was fourth down. He was just trying to get the ball over the pylon. Okay. Houston is at Kansas City. Let's get to the games. So if you just, you know, stat of the game, it's just everything I keep saying about

the Chiefs and what they've done at home. I told you about the quarterbacks, but also wide receivers haven't done very well at home in Arrowhead against the Chiefs. However, you look back, this is going back to last year, they really didn't face that many good ones, and the good ones typically did pretty well. Keenan Allen being a noteworthy exception,

but he left with an injury in the second quarter. He should never play at Arrowhead ever again. He gets hurt every time he's there. He tore his ACL there. He hurt his back there. I mean, he just never played there. Got mugged in the parking lot. But I guess Will Fuller, right?

Disappointing, disappointing, disappointing, disappointing. Boom! Biggest game we've had for a wide receiver all year in week five. We're going to start Hopkins. But how confident are you in Will Fuller? Very. When you say very, are we talking like top 12 very? Top 20.

I'm just outside of there because it's Will Fuller and we just know what the boomer bus nature is. He gets hot. He gets hot. That's true. Those targets were there, and I think it's going to be a shootout. I'm not sold on it being a total shootout. I don't think this would be an amazing banana.

I know that sounds crazy, but I don't know if the Chiefs can actually hold up their end of the bargain. The over on the bargain. What did Houston learn from last two weeks of Detroit and Indianapolis running the ball? And I don't know that Bill O'Brien learned anything from that. But this team doesn't have the same caliber.

Oh, don't be so sure that that doesn't mean that they won't try. I don't know. Bill O'Brien. I don't know. I also don't think that the Texas defense is very good very good like full ass defense isn't fuller i would start in most cases i wouldn't start him over odell beckham and juju but no he's right at that range i start him over odell um i i can see why you would do that um i think it's close the thing that worked the best for the texans is that their offensive line is getting better and last week they took on a team with no pass rush and they're

doing that again this week a team with no pass chris jones is hurt and you know and frank clark isn't getting the job done excuse me his shoulders banged up um they also are taking on last week a team with a terrible secondary this week wouldn't you say kansas secondary probably doesn't rank very bad they've been worst against the slots i know and they can mix and match fuller in and out of there i just i don't know deshaun watson explained that last week the falcons were trying to take deandre hopkins away there were busts all over the place it got will fuller wide open it's pretty obvious could the same thing happen again this week yes no. Could he go for 80 in a touchdown? Yes. I think that's absolutely

within the realm of possibility. I just have him as a number two receiver. Oh, I get it. It's not a matter of where he's ranked. It's a matter of do you start or sit him? You'd be hard-pressed to sit him at this point. Would you start Sonny Michel or Will Fuller? Fuller

and PPR easily. Yes. Fuller and PPR. I think I might go Sonny Michel or Will Fuller? Fuller and PPR easily. Yes. Fuller and PPR. I think I might go Sonny and none. Okay. Melvin Gordon or Will Fuller? Fuller. Fuller. Okay.

Yeah, sorry. Melvin and none. So let's talk about Carlos Hyde. All right, because maybe you're desperate for a running back this week. We do have four teams on by. He's 86% on. You can't really pick him up. But I tried to find a rhyme or reason.

He's got two games with 20 carries, and he's got three games with 10, 12, 10 carries. I don't really know that there is one. But we know the Chiefs' Achilles heel is their run defense. It's terrible. So you'd be smart to go in there and try to run the ball a little bit and try to control possession. Would you start Carlos Hyde?

Who's a better flyer this week, Carlos Hyde or Adrian Peterson at Miami? Hyde. I'll say Peterson because I think Hyde might end up sharing a little bit more than you might expect with Duke. I would give a slight nod toward Hyde. You need

the Chiefs offense to struggle early and the Texans to get a lead for Hyde to be great. Would you start Hyde or a 49ers running back against the Rams? Hyde and non-PPR, I would start the 49ers guys in PPR over. I'll take the 49ers either way. Me too. Okay, so Hyde, we're going to call a low end number two or a flex right now.

High end number three, yeah, right in the Jordan Howard range. And if you're desperate at running back and let's just lay out a scenario where you picked up Chase Edmonds or Malcolm Brown and the starter in front of them is going to play and you need to trade somebody off your bench, hide somebody you can target in a late week trade to have a spot

starter this week. He's not a bad spot starter. I would prefer AP. It's funny. That's one of the guys I dropped to pick up Malcolm Brown was Carlos Hyde. Oh, I don't blame you for that because of the upside with Malcolm Brown. You can probably go and pick up Hyde on Friday. I don't think there's going to be a mad rush to get Carlos Hyde off the waiver wire.

So I totally get that. By the way, Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes, just so it's said, are both top three quarterbacks. We don't have to talk about them. We're obviously going to start DeAndre Hopkins. And we talked about Will Fuller. Kiki QT would just be a dart throw. Yeah, I mean, he's not bad if Kenny Stills is out again.

Yeah, a dart throw. And then what about a tight end? What about Aikens or Fels? Can't count on them. I still like Aikens over Fels, but... Yeah. Okay. I would take Noah Fant.

You know, I'm really bringing this up for the Evan Ingram owner because I had to pick up Jason Witten in a league. Gerald Everett's gone. Chris Hernan's not coming back this week. Can't count on Hunter Henry. So you might be in dire straits at tight end, you know, target a high scoring game.

I would rather have Witten. You'd guys rather have Witten, right? The Jets. Yes. Yeah. I look at Jeff Swain too without O'Shaughnessy there. That's they've been thrown through tight ends about seven times a game.

So the Chiefs running backs are pretty interesting here because the Texans allow the third most receiving yards per game to opposing running backs. Now, they have faced Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffrey, Devontae Freeman. But they, you know, so five running backs have had five or more catches. Six running backs have had 40 or more receiving yards. Freeman caught a touchdown. You know, this is an opportunity, I would think, for Damian Williams. Which running back do you like better in this game williams in both formats for exactly what you said i like williams better

i i hope that he he needs to do something in this game i can't imagine he's going to continue getting touches with the production he's given us so far yes a big big week we got to prove a little bit here uh yeah and just just to piggyback what you said, Adam, they allow the most receptions to running backs. It's 45, and I don't think it's particularly close. Wow. So, LeSean McCoy, Carlos Hyde, Damian Williams. I may have just reversed the order of the rankings, but how would you rank the running backs in this game?

I would take the Chiefs guys ahead of Hyde. I'd go Williams, Hyde, McCoy. Williams, McCoy, Hyde. Okay. So would you rather start with Sean McCoy or like, well, let's stick with Damian Williams. Damian Williams or Emmanuel Sanders? I'll take Williams.

Yeah, I'll take Williams and I'll take Sanders and PPR. I think I have Sanders higher. I don't love either one. Dave, give me your overall thoughts on the chiefs wide receivers. Obviously statuses are up in the air. Thanks for giving me the easy question, Adam.

Look, I have Tyreek Hill plays, you know what to do. If Sammy Watkins plays, I feel bad for you, but you're probably going to start them anyway. Uh, I,

I liked Byron Pringle as the replacement for Watkins in the slot. Kind of a unique type of slot receiver for them, and he's got pretty good speed. I would look for pass catchers in this offense that are going to be better in the short area than the deep ball because I think that I don't know how much time Patrick Mahomes is going to have to throw. And I know he throws deep balls all the time and he can just flick

at the wrist and he's doing it. Who, for the Texans? Yeah, I think they're okay. And against this offensive line, I think they can get to Mahomes. That's the key, is can they take advantage of the situation? Because their pass rush has not been good. I mean, they've been missing Clowney. J.J. Watt has had hit or miss games so far this season. And so I just wonder if

you know, look, Mahomes isn't right. I know what he said, that he's going to be fine. But if he's not right, then it's a different conversation. But I mean, I'll trust Andy Reid even with the three of us playing offensive line for him with Patrick Mahomes. Poor Patrick, he would die. The Texans have rushed a passer so far this year for the most part.

Okay, so obviously, you know, Tyreek Hill, if he plays, he's starting, as Dave said. If Tyreek Hill plays and Sammy Watkins plays, would you start Sammy Watkins? Flex. He's going to be a flex either way because you know he's not going to be at 100% with the hamstring. You shouldn't have very high expectations.

This is the Sammy Watkins game because nobody will buy in and he'll go off and limp off at the end of the game with an ankle injury. And I got to tell you, I disagree on the Texans' pass rush being bad. I think back to that Kyle Allen game a couple weeks ago, he had three fumbles. They were in his grill like crazy. They're top 10 in sports info solutions. Quarterback pressures,

hurries, and they have 15 sacks on the season. Week one, they were a disaster. I think they've gotten better since then. And I think that this matchup should be tough on them all. That's what I'm asking. Focus on the Chiefs wide receivers, though, if you could. Because McColl Hardman, Demarcus Robinson, I understand. But I need to know if I'm starting these guys.

Sid Hardman. I would try and stay away from, honestly, I would probably try and stay away from all of them. If the top guys are out, all three are in play. Right. I mean, I think they're all number three receivers, including Hardman. Yeah, I mean, there's a chance that McColl Hardman's the number one receiver for the Chiefs. If Hill and Watkins are out, maybe we can talk about this more tomorrow when we get an injury report,

but if Hill and Watkins are out, are you going to drop Patrick Mahomes outside the top five? No. Maybe. I'd start Kyler Murray over. Russ. I think Russ would be a safer start. All right, cool. Start Travis Kelsey and sit the DSTs.

And we're going to take a break here on Fantasy Football today. We still have six or seven more. I'm not sure we're going to get to all of them. We might save one for tomorrow. But we've got a lot of AFC home games, Saints and Jaguars when we come back. Metro Lynx and Cross Lyninks are reminding everyone to be careful as Eglinton Crosstown LRT train testing is in progress. Please be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks.

Remember to follow all traffic signals. Be careful along our tracks and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. All right, Saints at Jaguars. We got decent quarterback matchups here, but I know you guys like Minshew a lot better. So Minshew, we'll start with the Jags. Minshew is 53% owned, 12th for Jamie, 9th for Heath. 15th for Dave. Heath, who are some quarterbacks you're starting Minshew over this week?

Matthew Stafford, Phillip Rivers, Jared Goff, Jameis Winston, Jimmy Garoppolo, Carson Wentz, Baker Mayfield. Is everybody starting Minshew over Aaron Rodgers? No. No. Okay. Just Heath. Back to back. I didn't say Aaron Rodgers because they were back-to-back

and very close in their projections. And if Devontae Adams shows up at practice today or tomorrow and we find out he's going to play, then that will change. Okay. Gotcha. So Leonard Fournette against a great, great run defense. Any concerns at all? You have to start him.

There's just too much potential to put him on your bench. Okay. So let's talk about the Jacksonville wide receivers here. DJ Chark, he has been kind of matchup proof, actually. But we've seen what Lattimore has done the last two weeks to Mike Evans and to Amari Cooper. Sorry. So any, I don't know if he's going to shadow Chark or not, but any concerns about Chark

and any interest in D.D. Westbrook who is 66% up? Well, I would be surprised if he didn't shadow Chark. But the Jaguars started using Chark in the slot last week. And that really helped him open up. The Panthers did not travel Bradbury into the slot to

cover Chark then. They actually didn't travel Bradbury at all. That's just a note for the Panthers when we talk about their game against Tampa Bay. Long story short, I think Lattimore will be the toughest matchup that Chark will face this year, but the way that Gardner Minshew targets him, uses him, every week it's deep balls, every week it's end zone targets. I can't do it. I cannot respect Marshawn Lattimore enough to bench DJ Chark this week.

I wouldn't play him in daily though. See, I might play him in daily just because everyone else won't. I think everybody else will. We'll see what the projected ownership is. I'm interested to know. I think D.D. Westbrook is a better player in daily. On DraftKings, I think you're probably right because the full PPR is going to be to his advantage. know because i think i think dd westbrook's a better playing daily in on draft kings i think you're probably right because the full ppr is going to be to his advantage and the targets

have been there and he's getting close and he's yeah he's getting close and that's a favorable matchup certainly more so than what charke would face but he's lining up more on the outside because charke is lining up more in the slot. So it's interesting that Jacksonville is actually doing clever things offensively. John DiFilippo. Yeah, it's refreshing because for years it was Blake Bortles chucking it wherever he could and hoping that the pass is completed, and it was a mess. Yeah.

Jamie actually has Chark 19th. Heath has him 6th, and Dave is right in the middle. So we all have Chark as a mess. Yeah. Jamie actually has Chark 19th. Heath has him 6th. And Dave is right in the middle. So we all have Chark as a start. Would you start DeeDee Westbrook

or who are the wide receivers that we talked about? Oh, or like Sammy Watkins if he plays? I'd probably go Watkins. I'd go DeeDee.

All righty. And Heath, why don't we talk about the Saints? Anything other than Kamara and Thomas? No, not for me. Okay. How much do you like Thomas if Jalen Ramsey plays? I will still start him if Jalen Ramsey plays. He won't be my

number one receiver anymore, but there's nothing that could happen. You could bring back Ronnie Lott and have him play safety and double team him. I'm still going to start him. Would you sit him if he was up against two Jalen Ramseys on every play? Are they full-size Jalen Ramseys? Full-size Jalen

Ramseys. Every play. Two of them. I know some people might be a little frustrated with Alvin Kamara right now. He's the number 10 running back in non-PPR, number 6 in PPR. Not necessarily a tough matchup. The Jaguars allow the fifth most fantasy points to running backs, 5.65 yards per carry. A lot of that was Christian McCaffrey last week,

but they are beatable. They're back on the road. And you start... Who's back on the road? The Saints? Is that better for Kamara? Back-to-back weeks on the road. And you start... Who's back on the road? The Saints? Is that better for Camara? Back to back weeks on the road. Oh, I understand.

Yeah, I mean, obviously you start... Last time he was on the road, what was it, Seattle? Yep. Week 3. Cool. So moving on to Dallas at the Jets. Stat of the game, the term Big Apple

originally referred to horse racing according to mentalfloss.com. The Big Apple was used to describe a big money prize at important horse races held around the city. Wouldn't you know. So Dak is a top eight quarterback. The Jets have not been that bad. So Tom Brady scored 24 points,

but Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, and Carson Wentz scored 17 or fewer and six points for passing touchdown leagues. Those are bad, bad games. So any concerns at all about Dak? Anything holding you back on Dak? No. Well, normally Dak would be a contender for a top-five ranking, and he's out of there this week.

Last week he kind of had some flukish plays go his way, come from behind against the Packers, but that was a good Packers defense. I think the cornerbacks for the Jets absolutely stink. The outside corners especially, and that's where Cooper and Gallup are going to line up predominantly. I think their pass rush stinks. Even with the offensive line issues for the Cowboys, I think Dak Prescott can be a top-ten quarterback.

And everybody's starting Cooper. Michael Gallup, how would you compare him to, say, the Jacksonville wide receivers? Favorably. In the same range as Tark and ahead of Westbrook. Yeah. I'm mostly just starting Michael Gallup. He's played three games. He's been awesome in all three of them.

Would you start Michael Gallup or James Conner? Gallup in PPR. I think I probably have Connor and I might have Connor in both I I'm I'm feeling optimistic about James Connor Jason Witten is a top 12 tight end in non-PPR and oh he's 12th in both formats so you know he's 63% owned the Jets so far have only faced one good tight end it was Ertz last week. They gave up five catches, 57 yards and a touchdown. Witten, I doubt anybody loves

Witten, but he still leads the team in targets inside the 10-yard line. So you can take a look at Witten. You're going to start Zeke. You're going to start Le'Veon Bell. Do you like or love Le'Veon Bell this week? Like. Like. Like in non-PPR. Love in PPR.

Oh, that is cute. I like that. And you guys do not have a Jets. You're sitting Darnold, and you don't have a Jets wide receiver ranked in your top 40. I feel a little more optimistic with Chris Herndon out. I mean, like, it's Sam Darnold's back. I know they're not going to put up. They're probably not going to put up big numbers.

Jets wide receivers. Jets wide receivers. Which one? The one that we liked most coming into the year or the one that got 17 targets and Sam Darnold's only start or the one that got nine targets last week. I'm going to take Crowder this week because I love the way they play outside receivers in Dallas. Their corners are really good. So I would go with the slot guy this week.

But I'm surprised that neither of them are even in your top 40. It's a good week for receivers. They're not very good right now. We don't know what the impact of, as he said, the impact of Demarius Thomas on Crowder and on Anderson will be with Darnold there. Because last week it was bad for both. I believe you've used the term discovery week in the past, Jamie.

This is a good discovery week for the Jets passing game. Okay, not a bad beat the waiver wire week for the Jets passing game. And Dallas' DST is second for Dave and Jamie and sixth for Heath. It is a good week for wide receivers because I'm looking at the guys in their 30s, and it's like, you know, D.D. Westbrook and Emmanuel Sanders and D.K. Metcalf,

the Dolphins guys, Aud and Tate. So it is a good week. All right, Seattle to Cleveland. Stat of the game. There's a fun one. Will Disley leads the Seahawks and targets inside the 10-yard line, and he plays Arizona in Week 16.

Congratulations, Will Disley owners. If you're making it there, you're going to win your championship. He also has a good matchup this week. Cleveland allows the six most fantasy points to tight ends. As we go through this game, Wilson, top six. Chris Carson, like him or love him? Love. Like.

Love. Heath, how come you only like Chris Carson, like him or love him? Love. Like. Love. Heath, how come you only like Chris Carson? The Browns are allowing five yards per carry to running backs. A lot of that was last week with San Francisco. Yeah, I mean, I like him and Le'Veon Bell similarly and on PPR, and I expect Bell to get more targets. So I love him and PPR, but I only like Carson still. Oh, so here's the stat I wanted to give about Russell Wilson.

He's had three massive games, 30 or more fantasy points. He's had two games with fewer than 20. So in the bad games, I may have already given this, I'm sorry. In the bad games, Seattle allowed 20 points to Cincinnati and 10 points to Arizona. In the good games, they gave up 26 or more points to Pittsburgh, the Saints, and the Rams. Cleveland's, so far, bad offense. Eighth fewest points per game in the NFL. That's including a 40-point game against Baltimore.

Like I said, you're not doing anything about it. You're not sitting Russell Wilson. But this could be a game where he doesn't throw much. And that could mean four targets for Tyler Lockett, which has happened, I think, like three times this year. So I just want to throw that out there if you have any reaction. It could happen. I don't disagree with the fact that it could happen.

I'm not to the point to where I'm expecting Cleveland's offense to just be a bad offense all year. You know, there's something interesting about the line for this game. It's Cleveland minus one. No, I think it's moved to Seattle minus two. It started at Cleveland. But it started at Cleveland minus one. It opened at Cleveland minus one, but that was before Monday Night Football.

Don't you think this line should be like Seattle minus six? No. Because that would mean you think they're nine points better than Cleveland. I feel like Cleveland just can't get their act together. That is not true. Seattle's coming off a game where they just scored 30 points. I feel like that someone in Vegas knows something about the Browns doing something this week.

I think they just haven't decided the Browns suck. That's how it works. Even with this line, you're saying that Seattle's five points better than Cleveland on a neutral field? That, by the way, is a myth. I actually spoke to a bookmaker on a neutral field? That's not, that is, that by the way is a myth. I actually spoke to a bookmaker on a podcast that I used to host, a gambling podcast, you know, a couple of years ago.

And that whole three points for being at home is not true. It depends on the team. It depends on the home field advantage. So just, and it is in the super contest, it's Seattle minus one. So that's where I would imagine the line. It just, it seems like they want you to take Seattle. DK Metcalf. When that's the case.

Start or sit? DK Metcalf. Sit. Sit. He's a boom-bust flex. Okay. And Jarvis Landry or DK Metcalf? Landry.

I'll take Landry and PPR. Landry in both. Will Disley is a top six tight end. Fifth for David, Jamie, sixth for Heath. If the Browns were smart, they would go crazy with Landry this week because the Seahawks like to play in base defense. They don't use a nickel

corner very often. When they do, he's not very good. There could be opportunities for Landry to pick up a ton of catches this week. They're not smart. Well, they don't use them like that anymore. But they should. They did two weeks ago.

The Seattle defensive line and the Cleveland offensive line. If Seattle's going to get in Baker Mayfield's face like every other team has done, then it's going to be a terrible situation for them. I know you guys don't like Baker Mayfield. Would you start any of the streaming guys other than Gardner Minshew over Baker Mayfield? Almost all of them. Yeah. Yep.

Like who? Garoppolo, Stafford. Oh, I wasn't counting. Kyle Allen. I wasn't counting that. Kyle Allen would count. Dalton? Yeah.

Yeah. I can't do it. Cousins? What's Dalton going to have to do for you to buy into him? You really hate him. Yeah, so apologize for what happened in high school. Actually, I do have Dalton right there. Yes, Cousins over Mayfield.

Okay. You starting Dalton or Rivers? Rivers. My best friend in the league versus... You have Dalton outside your top 18. He's 19. Nick Chubb is going to start him, but it is a tough matchup. The Seahawks

allow 3.8 yards per carry to running backs. Joe Mixon, James Conner, David Johnson, Todd Gurley, all average 3.6 yards per carry or worse, but Mixon gets so much work, so you're starting him. And then Beckham, is Beckham in your top 10 this week? No. No. Would you start McLovin over Beckham?

Yes. I don't know who that is. F1? Do you know who that is? F1. Odell Beckham. Okay. I love the matchup for McLaurin. With Keenum back, I think

it's all systems go. Josh Gordon or... We like the receiver more because of Case Keenum, right. Would you go Josh Gordon or Beckham? Beckham. Ooh, that's a good one right there.

Matt, I wish you had heard the one earlier when you didn't hit record. Okay. Adam tells everybody, sorry guys, we have to start over. I didn't hit record and Heath gives this evil guttural sigh. Like straight from... I wanted to punch him in the throat.

You made Heath so mad his armpits are sweating so much he's going to start dripping out of his shirt. That's going to make your room smell even worse. We're going to take a break here. We've got a few games left when we come back on Fantasy Football today. We'll finish up the AFC home games. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives you that coverage.

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They have faced juggernaut offenses, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. They've done well against wide receivers lately. And what does that mean for Marquise Brown, if anything? Kind of the same thing it does every week. You just start him as a borderline number two, number three receiver. Okay. You hope he strikes deep and kicks butt, but you know how it is.

Boomer bust. That's what he is. How have the Bengals been against running backs, Adam? Not very good. In fact, you know if you get 15 carries, you're almost guaranteed. Oh, a streak ended last week. It was like 10 in a row that had 15 carries, got 100

yards or a touchdown, and David Johnson had only 91 yards against the Bengals. He also had 65 yards received. I know. He still had a good game, but he didn't get 100 rushing yards or a touchdown. Okay, so just change it from 100 rushing to 100 total, and the streak is alive. Of course, Chase Edmonds had the

touchdown. Was that a catch or a run? It was a run. That kind of screwed up the... Cincinnati's front seven isn't very fast and teams are just exploiting the hell out of it. Are we loving Mark Ingram this week? We're loving Mark Ingram, but we're really loving Lamar Jackson

because he can also take advantage. Okay. Mark Andrews is a start? Yeah. There aren't a lot of tight ends to crush on. Okay. And Mark Andrews is a start? Yeah. Yeah, Mark Andrews? There aren't a lot of tight ends to crush on, and he's a good one. So you're starting him. He's basically back-to-back with Will Disley,

and he has not been as good as he was in those first two games, but still seven, eight targets in each of his last three games just hasn't quite been as productive. Lamar Jackson hasn't been as good. It's true. It's true. It's true. All right. So, okay, that's Baltimore.

Ingram, would you start Ingram over Conner and Mixon? Mixon for sure. Yeah. I'd start him over Conner in non-PPR for sure. It's close in PPR. I've got him back-to-back in PPR. Ingram with the nod. Yeah, I've got them both. Ingram's a top 10 back in non-PPR. Connor's a top 10 back

in PPR. I almost think I've got Ingram too low. Depends on format. Alright, let's talk about Andy Dalton. He's 61% owned. The first three games were against Seattle, San Francisco, and Buffalo. Of all the quarterbacks that those three teams has faced, Andy Dalton scored the most fantasy points against Seattle,

the most against San Francisco, and the most against Buffalo. Then John Ross got hurt, and he had the fewest fantasy points against Pittsburgh, and the second fewest fantasy points against Arizona. Of all the quarterbacks that have faced those two teams. Dude, he was headed for single digits against Arizona. Right. It took a lucky break for

tyler boyd for andy dalton it was kind of a similar game to james winston though wasn't it like they both were just terrible for three and a half quarters and then it's amazing that bad quarterbacks can still find a way just on a couple of you know fortuitous late plays so and if that's the reason why you're standing starting andy, then by all means, go for it. I mean, I don't think you're expecting pretty quarterback play from him. No, but you want a quarterback that's got a chance to play well

for four quarters and not just mop up at the end of the game. No, I kind of expect him to be a garbage guy. I mean, that's what Andy Dalton is. He's not going to be an aesthetically pleasing quarterback for the majority of it. And we had this conversation last week. I told my opinion was he wasn't

going to have a high ceiling. I think he's kind of got that 22-24 sort of cap on his head. And I think it's the same situation this week. That Raven secondary is not good. They just lost Jefferson. So it's another situation where Andy Dalton can win. And with Dalton, would you rather start Dalton or carson wentz this week wentz is minnesota i i would go with wentz dalton you guys

look i don't really have a personal problem with with dalton no i i hate i hate his offensive line i think his receiving core right now is miserable. Is it because of his hair? Is it a red hair thing? He was actually chill. First of all, the haircut is cool. I kind of wish that I had that. I wish I had hair. But I look at Andy Dalton and just the situation around him,

and I don't think it's good. And he's on the road. And for whatever stupid reason, I still think the Ravens' defense is pretty good. When their defense actually was good, he's been the road. And for whatever stupid reason, I still think the Ravens defense is pretty good. When their defense actually was good, he's been good against them. I mean, his track record. He had good receivers. Four games against them. His receivers suck.

I mean. It was good. Yeah, but their defense was much better for Baltimore. All right. Well, look, nobody loves Andy Dalton this week. The highest he is in the rankings is 15th. Well, I feel like I should love him as much as Dave hates him. I want to make him feel better.

But you can start him over Jimmy Garoppolo and Carson Wentz depending on who you're asking. Obviously not for Dave. Joe Mixon, who are some guys that you might start over Mixon because it is a bad matchup for him? Some guys that aren't obvious. I think

Dave brought it up earlier. It's like Adrian Peterson and Carlos Hyde would be the ones that you could look at. Now, I will say this. If you have the two entry replacement guys starting, those are probably better options in terms of Malcolm Brown and Chase Edmonds. Edmonds for sure. But you don't have it ranked with Hyde ahead of Mixon, do you?

No, no, no. I would still start Mixon just because I'm pretty confident in his touches comparatively to what Hyde may or may not get sharing with Duke Johnson and the same thing with Peterson with Chris Thompson. I mean, Peterson hasn't, I think, had more than, what, 12 carries in a game? Probably.

Sounds about right. In PPR, I would start Chris Thompson over him. Yeah, that's something you could certainly do. Heath, how would you approach the wide receivers for Cincinnati, Boyd and Tate? Tyler Boyd is a must-start wide receiver every week. Double-digit targets in all but one game this year. Yeah, like, fantastic.

Odden Tate's a borderline flex, low-end flex, maybe a number three, but barely. Okay. So, dirty secret, Andy Dalton should have had a much better game last week. Tate dropped two passes, including one, right on the doorstep of the goal line. But this is who Andy Dalton is. Well, but that's not on Dalton should have had a much better game last week. Tate dropped two passes, including one right on the doorstep of the goal line. But this is who Andy Dalton is.

Well, but that's not on Dalton. That's on Tate. But again, this is who Andy Dalton is. It's either the guys around him stink. He makes mistakes. Offensive line lets him down. I mean, that's his career. Yeah, he's a bangle. You know what you're getting with Andy Dalton.

Yeah. He's a bangle. All right, we got to wrap. We got to wrap on this game. Let's go. Tate is a touchdown-dependent, tight end-playing wide receiver. Speaking of touchdown-dependent... The two weeks prior to that, he wasn't a touchdown-dependent guy.

Last week was the first time he scored a touchdown in his career. Well, the two weeks before, he had six for 88, and then against Pittsburgh, he had four for 50. But he's had 16 targets. He had 22 targets on his last game. Yeah, he had 10 catches on 16 targets. That was good. I don't think he's

a dynamic receiver. I just think he's a big dude who makes a lot of sense for Dalton to lean on when they're inside the 10. How often will they be inside the 10 against Baltimore? Maybe a lot. Baltimore defense is not good. That's the difference in the way you guys perceive this game, obviously.

Dave has more faith in the Ravens' DST than Jamie and Heath do, and I think that's leading to these kind of going around in circles here. I don't want to say that Tate shouldn't even be a fantasy option. I think he can score and get you 40 yards with it. I just don't see him as a high upside type of play. I like the Ravens' DST because I think Dolan's going to make some mistakes and get sacked.

He's been sacked like crazy. But their defense as a whole is not very good. Okay, Tennessee's at Denver here. And we talked about Philip Lindsay. You're not really going to take it. Well, look, you could go with Royce Freeman. He could still get double-digit touches like he typically does. He's a fine flex.

Yeah, and this week with the buys, it's not the worst option. But you'd go with Carlos Hyde over Freeman, I assume, right? I'd go with Freeman over Hyde. Same. Oh, I was wrong. I'd go with Hyde over Freeman and non-PPR. Okay, makes sense. We're sitting the quarterbacks.

Derek Henry. I just want to let everybody know where Derek Henry has finished as a running back in his five games. In non-PPR, RB3, RB7, RB19, 18, and 16. In PPR, RB3, RB9, RB23, 22, and 22. He has been outside the top 23 straight weeks. And is it a tough matchup against Denver? Maybe still to be determined.

They allow the sixth most fantasy points to running backs, but, you know, look, they've allowed good games, but guys who have had a ton of carries, that's probably what you're going to get from Derek Henry. So everybody's got him ranked in the top 15, except Heath has him 18th in PPR. Any wide receiver? Okay, Corlin Sutton, yes.

Any other wide receivers in this game? Sanders or Flex? With that type of excitement level. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders was better. I'm not ranking it that way, but I wouldn't be surprised. Sanders or Odin Tate? Sanders. Hmm.

I might go Tate. I think Tate's got a better chance to score. I'll go Sanders. Now three tight ends have caught a touchdown against the Titans with four or fewer targets. Noah Phan has had three to four targets in four

or five games, only one last week. I'm not trying to make a huge case for him. Well, I have him ranked 15th, I believe. You get past really tight end number seven. You could hope they score eight points. get past really tight end number seven. And

you could make... I hope they score eight points. Like, that's what you're hoping. You get eight PPR fantasy points. Sure. Noah Fant could do that. Yeah, I'd start Ellison tonight over him if you still can. I would start Jeff Swain over him also. I would start Ellison over him. I'm not sure about Swain.

Alright, and no quarterbacks in this game. I think we're pretty much done here. Oh, Delaney Walker. Is he part of that top eight? No. No. He is towards the upper end of the rest of the...

He stinks. He does. His playing time is dwindling, too. He's been under 50% each of the last two weeks. But there aren't... I mean, There aren't 10 good tight ends this week. The Broncos,

I don't think there's been a tight end that's had more than seven non-PPR points against them this year. For Walker to do that, he's got to score. He hasn't scored since week one. He's had two end zone targets since week one. I only have seven tight ends projected

for seven non-PPR points this week. I think if you're starting Delaney Walker, you're hoping he gets you like 50 yards. I've got him projected for 5.1. So 51 yards. That makes him 10th. Will that be his second best all of the season? Third best all of the season. He's been terrible the last two weeks.

So Walker, but he's still ahead of Jason Witten, still ahead of Noah Fant, but he's behind like Gerald Everett. We're going to save Pittsburgh and the Chargers for tomorrow. Jamie, give me 30 seconds on Washington and Miami.

Close your eyes. Do something else. Don't watch the game. I think if you're looking at it, it's a chance for both of these teams close your eyes, do something else, don't watch the game. I think if you're looking at it, it's a chance for both of these teams to get on track just because the defenses are so bad. Washington should have success with their backfield because the Dolphins are so bad against the run. So Peterson's in play, and Thompson should have one of his better games

at PPR. McCorn's a must-start guy. And then for the Dolphins, it's sort of dart throws, but I think Kenyon Drake has an opportunity here to be successful. Hopefully he gets his season high in touches because he just hasn't gotten the work yet. They're talking about Mark Walton, which is strange. That's because Kalen Balazs stinks.

Rank the running backs in this game. Huh? Rank the running backs. Do I have to? In PPR? Either one, both. Peterson. I'm sorry.

Thompson, Drake, Peterson in PPR. Yes. And in non-PPR? I'll say Peterson, Drake, Thompson. Okay, how about McLaurin's a must start? Any other wide receiver? I mean, we've got some opportunities here for the Dolphins guys. They're in like the Aud and Tate range, right?

But you can't feel good about them. They're such dart throws because Williams should be the better of the two. But if Wilson comes back, now you have where the target's going. Okay, by the way, Jamie said close your eyes, do something else, don't watch the game. That is actually exactly what is written on the back of every seat at Hard Rock Stadium. So how about that? Very nice way to end the show. It's really interesting living in South Florida and listening to how people are approaching

this game because the Dolphins can easily win. Yes, I know. This is the two-a-bowl right here. It's a big game. But this is this. Exactly. And it's, you know, I think the players coming off a bye week, like if you were to just look at it right now, the quarterbacks, Keenum should be better, but I think it's close to

a wash. Like if you just start to nitpick, like talent for talent, it's like you give Washington a slight edge almost across the board, but it's slight. And I would say the coach is better in Miami. Which DST do you like better?

Huh? Which DST do you like better? Washington. I like Washington better. Washington better. I think Washington wins. I think they're both in play. I think Miami wins.

I think, look, both these teams, this is like their last winnable game. No, the Dolphins still get the Steelers and the Bengals and the Jets. If the Redskins get the number one pick, do you think they take Tua? Oh, that's interesting. It depends on who's making the call and how Haskins looks. I think they do it. I think they Josh Rosen it. We're out of here, everybody.

We have got the NFC home games plus the chart. And plus the Chargers next week. Actually, tomorrow. All thrown off. Go Giants! Go Giants. You know where they're going to go. Go Rays!

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