Fantasy Football Today - 10/11: Start or Sit (AFC), Rest of Season Outlooks (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 11, 2018Today on the show, find out why Dave and Heath don't agree on Andrew Luck's Week 6 outlook, if Big Ben can thrive on the road, which underowned WRs can help you out and much more. But first, let's rea...d some of your emails (2:30) and talk about D'Onta Foreman, the PIT backfield, the weather in Denver and other Fantasy topics ... Why you may be overlooking the IND WRs (10:30), NFL news items to know (15:00), rest of season analysis (21:00) on key players like Phillip Lindsay and Amari Cooper ... IND-NYJ (28:22), KC-NE (36:50), CHI-MIA (43:41), PIT-CIN (49:50), BUF-HOU (53:15), LAC-CLE (57:00), LAR-DEN (1:02:00), BAL-TEN (1:04:30) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Get your lineup set. It's time for Star D'Or Sit.
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T.
We got a lot of AFC home games this week.
Star D'Or Sit, we're going to preview eight games today.
We're going to leave that pesky London game for tomorrow's show.
Welcome, everybody.
No Jamie today.
Adam Azer, Dave Richard, and Heath Cummings.
I'm a little upset about something, fellas.
I love the London games, but I really like when they're at 9 in the morning Eastern instead of 1.
It's just like another game if it's at 1 o'clock.
Give me a 9 AM-er.
No.
I think you actually get that. Hold on. let me check my schedule good good check it out
my placemat yeah have we talked about my placemat so flash schedule we have not
dave looks like andy reed like he's got i'm just glad it's laminated this year last year we got to
the end of the season and it was like three three little crumbs that Dave was holding together. Yeah, with all sorts of marinara stains on it.
We've got London games in consecutive weeks, and I believe at least one of the next two are those early morning games that you speak of, which are amazing.
Because it's then literally football on for over 12 hours.
Tennessee and the Chargers.
I am not a fan of the morning games.
Oh, I love it.
Are you a fan of mornings in general, Heath?
The mornings are fine.
I've got way too much stuff going on on a Sunday morning for there to be a football game happening at the same time.
Ooh, the next two weeks, weeks seven and eight.
Tennessee and the Chargers, Eagles and the Jaguars, 9.30 a.m. Eastern.
Adam, your wish is granted.
All right. How about that? Hey, listen. Great app.m. Eastern. Adam, your wish is granted. All right.
How about that?
Hey, listen.
Great app for you, the Google Assistant.
We talk about it all the time with fantasy football.
It actually does a lot more than just fantasy football.
It's a very small part of why the Google Assistant is awesome.
And all season long, CBS Sports delivering the best fantasy football advice
directly through the Google Assistant.
You'll be able to compare players and get insights into who to start, sit, add, and drop.
And we will turn to Dave and Heath later to find out how this works.
We will give a little Google Assistant demo as we discuss Jameis Winston and Ben Roethlisberger.
All right, so we got those eight games coming up.
First 20 minutes or so will be more general fantasy stuff.
Want to read a lot of emails?
Here's the segment called Eight Emails in Four Minutes.
Here we go.
From David.
Subject, Deontay Foreman.
Dear bros, do you think Deontay Foreman will be active in week seven?
This is such an ultimate stash considering the running back situation in Houston.
Such a lottery ticket to lead your team to the championship.
Why aren't you talking more about Deontay Foreman?
I think if he wasn't coming back from the Achilles injury, we'd be talking about him a lot more.
We just don't know what he's going to look like.
I think the Texans don't know what he's going to look like.
And by the way, in case you haven't noticed, the Texans haven't exactly been a bastion of rushing this year.
Their offensive line is really bad at run blocking.
They're slightly better at pass blocking.
They're bad at both.
And I'm not sure what you're going to get out of Foreman.
Yeah, I think the sentiment here from David is right.
This is a lottery ticket.
But if lottery tickets were
guaranteed to hit then they wouldn't be lottery tickets like there is a lot of risk with deontay
foreman risk number one that he's not the same running back we saw last year and we've really
not seen running backs come back from achilles tears and have success in the nfl football players
in general not necessarily necessarily just running backs.
We saw a couple of defensive players last year.
One of the Dolphins' edge rushers.
Or was it Olivier Vernon?
Was it Vernon?
Or Wake?
One of the two of them had the Achilles.
I can look it up if you really want to know.
But we've not seen running backs do this yet.
And the Texans have one of the worst offensive lines in football. So yes,
he should be stashed. Okay, so remember,
eight emails in four minutes. So
thank you. He should be stashed. How about one
email in six minutes? Deontay Foreman
is on the PUP list, not IR, so
he is eligible to come back after six weeks.
Wake is the one coming back from the Achilles.
Keenan in Los Angeles says,
Dear Kristen, Lake, Alexander,
and Liberty.
Those are bells.
Should I try and trade for James Conner in the off chance that Le'Veon Bell gets traded to Philadelphia
or another contender in need of a running back?
It depends on what you have to give up to get him.
If it costs you too much, too many good players, or even one really good player, then forget it.
Not worth it.
You know what would be better for eight emails in four minutes?
If these were like start-sit questions where we could answer them with one word.
Then we could get through like 12 emails in three minutes.
We're getting into the theory of what the Steelers are going to do with Le'Veon.
I feel like each email should get about 30 seconds.
And I think we just hit it on this one.
Okay, so who do you like better rest of the season, Connor or Bell?
I have Bell's trade value higher than Connor's.
I'd take Connor.
Okay.
Matt says, you guys kept giving a stat over the summer saying,
Jameis Winston led the league in something, and I can't remember what.
I just picked him up, and I'm starting him this week, so I'd love to know what Jameis Winston led the league in something, and I can't remember what. I just picked him up, and I'm starting him this week,
so I'd love to know what Jameis Winston led the league in last year.
In the games that he started and finished,
he was on pace to lead the league in passing yards, nearly 5,000 yards.
There you go.
I was going to say he led the league in finger-eating memes.
Finger-eating memes?
Remember the W?
Yeah, the W. No, I don't remember that? We got to eat a W?
No, I don't remember that at all
Google eating a W
Okay, from Bill
Dear Peter Quagmire, Joe in Cleveland
I need to sit one in a standard scoring league
Aaron Jones, LeSean McCoy, or Corey Clement
I think I'm sitting McCoy
Are we sure he's going to get the same type of workload that he got last week?
That's typically the workload that a Bills running back gets in victories.
I don't think this is going to be a victory for both.
I think I'm sitting Aaron Jones.
Yeah, you're not very excited about Aaron Jones.
Mike McCarthy is not very excited about Aaron Jones.
I know.
Like we're worried about is LeSean McCoy going to get the same workload that he got last week is aaron jones going to get more work than
he's ever got okay uh i'd be fine with him on 13 touches so this is a really weird meme
eating i can't believe you didn't see that it's really weird i hate it uh this is from
richard hong in california dear, Clayton, Oral, and Fernando.
Those are baseball players.
Dodgers pitchers.
Yeah, specifically Dodgers pitchers.
Is Kyle Juszczyk in RB2 this week?
I can see him getting a dozen targets in the passing game and maybe six carries.
Am I crazy?
Kyle Juszczyk.
PPR flex.
I don't think he's getting six carries.
I don't think he's getting a dozen targets. All right, here's a good email from Will. Not to say that the other ones weren't good. PPR flex. I don't think he's getting six carries. I don't think he's getting a dozen targets.
All right, here's a good email from Will.
Not to say that the other ones weren't good.
They were good.
You guys might want to, quote, unquote, temper expectations for golf at Denver this week.
Supposed to be in the mid-20s with snow during the game on Sunday.
I doubt he has much experience in such conditions.
Also, we know St. Louis was the greatest show on turf.
What do you think of the greatest show on surf for the Los Angeles Rams?
Huh?
Huh?
That's not bad.
I agree with the golf thing.
Even if his receivers are healthy, he's never in his life played football in these conditions.
Are we sure?
He's a SoCal kid.
Eighth grade, he went on a trip to philadelphia
played in lake tahoe it was really cold pack 12 maybe pack 10 then probably pack 12 i'm not sure
the pack something i mean how many teams are in the league there's 12 now um i am a little bit
concerned and the only the only real concern for him coming out of college was what?
Remember?
Weather.
He's got tiny little Acer hands.
So would you start Eli or Wentz over Goff?
Because this is actually, and I looked at the weather,
like it's going to be freaking cold in Denver.
This is really important.
So would you start Eli or Wentz over Goff?
As of now, I have Wentz and Eli ahead of Goff.
Part of that is not because of the weather.
It's because of the health of his receivers.
It looks like those guys are going to have a chance to play.
I have a hard time sitting him. Even with the weather being what it is, I hate benching guys for weather
unless it is such obvious conditions that it's going to be detrimental to the entire game.
I'm not sure if I was going to use weather as an excuse, and the history on weather is pretty spotty.
I'm not sure Eli and Wentz would be the guys that I'd be saying, oh, let's use them because of the weather.
Well, I'm saying we can revisit this tomorrow.
Because it's supposed to be a monsoon in New York tonight.
All right, that's a good point.
We can revisit this tomorrow, but I'm just saying for the people that have to make the decision tonight.
Yeah, ask me tomorrow if I'd rather start Manning or more wins over Goff, and I'll tell you for sure.
All right, this is from Jeremy.
Dear Jack, Jackie, Frank, Susan, and Morty.
That one I don't think I know.
The Bills defense has been impressive in fantasy the last three weeks.
Why are you guys so low on the bills dst so one of the things that i do when i
track um a dst and consider starting them is i see how many fantasy points a team has allowed
to opposing dsts houston this year has only allowed double digit fantasy points to a dst
once it was last week and it was 10 points. So the bare minimum.
And I just think the Texans are going to
put up a good number and not turn the ball over a ton.
I think you can do better than Buffalo
this week. You're right. I'm moving them up.
They're going up, up, up,
up, up, up, up, up, up.
18th.
And finally from Aaron.
Tell Adam if he grunts at the beginning of the
regulator's music one more time, I will have to stop listening to the show.
So gross.
I'm a little sad that you do the Regulators without me doing my yelling.
Well, then, do you know what to do?
Work harder on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays?
I guess so.
Just come on the show.
Come on the show for the last five minutes, Dave. Just so everybody knows, I am right outside the podcast on Wednesdays watching film and writing up players for the Start, Sit, Sleepers, and Wrists column.
I need that hour.
I'm sorry.
It's cool.
It's all good.
Quick observation for you.
If you're desperate for a wide receiver, please consider the probably very under-owned Colts wide receivers.
Yes.
Chester Rogers is 10% owned.
Ryan Grant is 14% owned.
Zach Pascal is 8% owned.
The Jets allow the eighth most fantasy points wide receivers.
They've allowed a 100-yard receiver in four of five games.
Seven wide receivers have 70 or more yards against the Jets,
and five of those seven had seven or more catches.
There's a lot of numbers there, but just to sum it up,
the Jets suck against receivers, and they could be down two cornerbacks.
They're obviously down Johnson and Buster Screen as a concussion.
So these guys are so under-owned.
If you need a wide receiver, please look at the Indianapolis Cubs.
Rodgers is their slot guy, and Luck is looking for him all the time.
He's got a lot of targets over the last two games. i think he's going to have another good game this week he is a borderline number two wide
receiver this week we we are analyzing this game in just a few moments right yeah i'll save my
thoughts for them okay okay good good uh so uh i want i want to share a little story dave knows
the story heath i'll tell you dave did a very nice thing uh a few weeks ago and he said i want to share a little story. Dave knows the story. Heath, I'll tell you. Dave did a very nice thing a few weeks ago, and he said, I want to get your kid something, Adam.
What should I get him?
I said, no, no, don't worry about it.
You don't have to get him anything.
He said, no, come on.
I'll get him something.
I said, fine.
You know what?
He's got a lot of Miami Hurricane stuff.
He's got a Knicks shirt with his last name on the back.
He doesn't have any Giants stuff.
Get him a Giants onesie.
So I get a package a couple weeks ago or like 10 days ago.
And I'm like, oh, I know what this is.
I open it up.
I see all these Giants like blue and red.
It's got Giants logo on it.
And it's like it's huge.
So I'm like, what, did he get him a blanket or something like that?
No.
Dave got
me a Giants onesie.
And it's tremendous.
And it fits me perfectly.
And today's the big game.
And if the Giants win today,
we're going to get first place. We're going to be,
well, not first place, but we're going to win the division.
He's standing up. So I am taking off the
headset to reveal.
Oh my gosh.
Adam is putting it on.
He's had it on.
He's wearing a onesie.
This is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen.
The tags are still on.
He's not going to keep it.
He's just using it as a prop for this show, and he's sending it back.
It's a little big on you.
It's big?
It looks like you've got a, like, my size belly. Well, you bought an adult size. It is a little big on you. It's big? It looks like you've got a, like, my size belly.
Well, you bought an adult size.
It is a little big over here, I suppose.
But it's a onesie.
You know, we need room for spitting up and stuff like that.
You must absolutely love that thing.
It's so funny, Dave.
I was cracking up.
And then Dave did send a baby-sized onesie as well.
So let's see that onesie.
It's a little big, actually.
I think we're going to have to wait until next football season to throw that one. You lovesized onesie as well. So let's see that onesie. It's a little big, actually. I think we're going to have to wait
until next football season to throw that one.
You love the onesie.
I got you so much that the tags are still on it.
The tags are still on it.
I haven't left the house yet.
You're going to leave the house in that?
If the baby onesie fits him,
which I don't think it will,
I will consider a Halloween duet costume
of Giants onesies.
What are you planning on doing outside of the house with the baby on Halloween?
Trick-or-treating.
Well, you know, we'll walk around.
Maybe we'll go with his cousins.
With his cousins.
Adam wants candy.
We'll go, you know, he's got little cousins.
They go trick-or-treating.
Maybe we'll join them.
The people at the door will say, oh, it's so nice that you took your little brother out for trick-or-treating, young man.
Take two little fun-sized candies.
All right, here are your news and notes.
By the way, which parent doesn't steal some candy from their kids?
No, I look forward to that day.
My nine-year-old asked me this morning,
he's looking at the calendar.
He's a very anal kid when it comes to dates and times and things like that.
He says, Halloween's on a Wednesday.
I was like, so?
I was hoping it would be on a weekend.
Are we going to celebrate it on Wednesday?
I was like, what do we do to celebrate Halloween?
You don't go trick-or-treating?
Well, you can go trick-or-treating.
Just find some friends to go with
because I don't want to go.
What? Dude!
Well, you've got to stay home and give out the candy
No I'll turn the lights off
Oh my gosh
You're a big one
Mr Grinch
You are the Grinch that stole Halloween
Oh it's such a bad
You're right it's a terrible holiday
Like meeting your neighbors and eating the most delicious things in the world
What a crap holiday
It's not even close to the most delicious things in the world And I haven crap holiday. It's not even close to the most delicious things in the world.
And I haven't met my neighbors, not all of them, in years.
All right, here we go.
News and notes.
Ben Roethlisberger wants James Conner to stay involved
after the Le'Veon Bell return,
which he talks about as if Le'Veon Bell is definitely returning.
Well, it seems that way anyway.
I did this quick math.
Le'Veon Bell had 406 touches last year.
If you take away 15% of his touches and therefore 50% of his fantasy points,
he would have been the number six running back in non-PPR,
number four in PPR last year.
I don't know.
Whatever.
If that means anything.
No one knows what's going to happen.
Where did the 15% number come from?
I just figured let's give James Conner 15% of the work.
What if it's 50%?
Then we've got a problem here.
Roethlisberger, by the way, also playing through an elbow injury, but whatever.
He's at Cincinnati this week.
Interesting start-sit choice this week on Roethlisberger.
We know he's not as good on the road.
Should we be adding Chris Ivory with the LaShawn McCoy trade rumors?
Ivory is 17 percent
owned he had 23 touches and 126 total yards mostly receiving at minnesota in one game without
mccoy should we be adding chris ivory you could in deeper leagues i don't have a problem with it
it's it's the regular 10 and 12 team leagues where you've got five or six bench spots where I'd go, eh, I'm not ready to get him yet.
All right.
By the way, and I'm trying to find it,
I think LaShawn McCoy accidentally gave up the news that teams are calling to
trade for him.
Oops.
Give me one minute.
I'll give it to you.
Give me a minute.
Kansas City linebacker Justin Houston unlikely to play this week.
Evan Ingram is out.
That'll help with your Bonanza pick.
You know what? You freaking ruined the Bonanza last week.
You did, so don't do it again.
Well, I mean, you've already picked it.
Obviously, you can't pick the Falcons two weeks in a row.
I can't pick the Falcons two weeks in a row.
It can't be that game, so it's obviously going to be the Chiefs and Patriots.
I can't pick them three weeks in a row, so we'll see.
We'll see.
Could be Baltimore, Tennessee.
Evan Ingram's out.
Olivier Vernon's out.
No, Olivier Vernon will play.
He's in.
Darren Sproles is out.
And Philadelphia defensive tackle Haloti Nada will miss his second straight game.
Colts offensive lineman Matt Slauson.
Jeez.
He played nearly the entire second half of last week's game with two broken vertebrae in his spine.
He said he could have been paralyzed.
We are so thankful that that did not happen.
He is out for the year.
I wonder if that's going to be a wrap for Slauson.
Could be.
Who's been a really, really quality lineman his entire career.
Devontae Freeman has a foot injury.
May not play this week.
That would be great for Tevin Coleman against the Bucs.
Ito Smith is 14% owned.
He had 10, 5, and 10 touches in three games without Freeman.
But if you have Freeman and Corey Clement or Wendell Smallwood,
do you have to go with one of those guys tonight?
It's the Eagles, guys.
Yep.
And I'll tell you what, Tevin Coleman has not looked good
and certainly has not put up the numbers we'd like to see over the last three weeks.
I wonder if the judge ends up getting a little bit more work.
Gino.
Yeah.
That's his nickname.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
Let me know when you want the LeSean McCoy thing.
All right.
Dalvin Cook was limited in practice.
Brandon Cooks and Cooper Cupp participated in a walkthrough.
They're trending in the right direction.
Lamar Miller says he is playing this week.
Leonard Fournette could be held out until Week 10, according to the Florida Football Insiders. Greg Zerlein is probably another
week away from returning, and Isaiah Crowell mispracticed. I think we still expect him to
play at this point. Dave, real quick, give me that McCoy stuff. So here's the Q&A with reporters
yesterday. So the reporter asks, these rumors that you're in line to be traded to Philadelphia.
LeSean McCoy says, I heard about it. I just kind of stay focused on the job at hand.
I'll let that stuff work itself out.
We'll see what happens.
And then he was asked, do you know whether or not a call was actually made?
He goes, I'm not going to get into that.
That's for my agent and the guys upstairs to work out.
Third question.
LeSean, when something like that does happen, do you contact the organization or the coaches
just to kind of get a feel of what's going on?
He goes, yeah.
I mean, sometimes.
This particular one, I just left it alone.
Oops.
Sounds like someone's calling for LeSean McCoy.
Well, I mean, Sean McDermott didn't even deny it.
So these are not even rumors anymore. He addressed it before he was even asked about it.
Yeah, so there's a good chance he gets traded.
Absolutely.
And it could be the Eagles. All right. Yeah, so there's a good chance. I think they're trading him. He gets traded, absolutely. And could be the Eagles.
All right, hey, chew on this stat.
Could be Tampa.
Now, look, the Tennessee running backs have been among the biggest busts in fantasy.
The five opponents that they have faced currently rank thusly.
No, like, I don't know.
Currently rank like this in yards per carry allowed to running backs.
First, sixth, seventh, thirteenth, and fourteenth.
So they have had very tough competition.
Two things about that.
Tennessee running backs.
Yeah, go ahead.
One, when you've only played four or five games,
having Derek Henry's 20 carries at 2.5 yards per pop
certainly helps your season long, Yards per carry allowed.
And two, they face the Ravens this week.
Yes, they face another tough matchup this week.
Chargers after that in London.
Not so good on yards per carry basis.
No.
And then a bye.
And then a bye.
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I want your real quick rest-of-season analysis.
I'm going to give you a player's name, and you tell me what you expect from him rest-of-season.
Is he an RB2? Is he a QB1 or whatever it is?
Phillip Lindsey, go ahead.
I think he's just outside of being an RB2 rest Is he a QB1 or whatever it is? Philip Lindsay, go ahead. I think he's just outside of being an RB2 rest of season. He's a flex that I'd like to have on my roster. The likelihood
that Philip Lindsay just starts to basically be the clear-cut number one running back in
Denver? 30%. I was going to say 35%. Now I look like a fool because Heath said 30% first.
Nelson Aguilar.
I've cut him in a couple of weeks.
If he is bad again this week, I would consider doing the same.
This is not the same Eagles offense.
Carson Wentz has had some regression,
but more importantly the offensive line is not doing a good job blocking for him, and the receivers are not getting separation.
Wentz is playing okay.
His numbers are okay.
They're just not amazing.
So that's what the regression is.
And Lane Johnson might not be healthy for this game tonight against the Giants.
That will hurt him.
Mike Williams.
I want him on my team still.
I do recognize that he is a little touchdown dependent,
maybe a lot touchdown dependent,
but I still like the outlook for him,
and I like that he's a part of this good Los Angeles offense.
He'll score five more touchdowns across three different games and maybe top 60 yards twice.
Omari Cooper.
There are some people who are cutting him,
and they're calling it a sabotage drop.
That's the name for it,
because they're sabotaging other people's teams.
He makes me nervous this week.
I think he's very, very matchup dependent
and quarterback dependent
in order for his targets to be what you want them to be.
Okay.
Is he a – would you drop Amari Cooper, or is that premature?
No.
It depends on the league.
If it's a small 10-team non-PPR league and I'm solid at receiver
and I want to pick up one of the Eagles running backs,
he might be the worst player on my team.
So I would cut him in that case.
Your analysis on Corey Davis?
I still believe he's going to be a top 25, top 30 wide receiver over the rest of the season,
but it may not be great this week.
It's not going to be good this week.
It might not be good next week after that and after their bye week in week nine.
It's the Cowboys, then the Patriots, then the Colts.
There are some good matchups down the stretch that I think Davis could take advantage of.
I would continue to keep
him on the bench. Chris Thompson.
Love him in
PPR. I think he's practically
an every week start in PPR
and not quite as
good in none. I'm terrified of him.
He's hurt right now.
Every time he gets a heavy workload, he seems
to get hurt.
If he has a good game against the Packers, I would be trying to tell.
He played the Packers last week.
He had an okay game in PPR.
No, Chris Thompson.
He played the Saints.
Yeah, he played the Saints.
And he doesn't play the Packers.
He played the Packers a couple weeks ago.
He plays the Panthers.
So we both loused that one up pretty badly.
He was limited in practice.
Yes. Okay. So at least he's practicing. up pretty badly. He was limited in practice, Heath? Yes.
Okay, so at least he's practicing.
Okay, that's Chris Thompson.
All right, we've got one debate to get to, and then we get into the games.
Let's talk about a couple of quarterbacks.
We're going to debate Jameis Winston against the Falcons
and Ben Roethlisberger at Cincinnati.
We're going to talk about it.
I'm going to let Dave and Heath have at it for a bit.
Then we're going to let the Google assistant decide.
So listen, you need some fantasy advice, you tweet us, you email us, you chase us down, you come to our homes.
We can't always answer your questions.
We'd love to, but we can't.
The Google Assistant is a great tool to help you with your start or sit questions, your add, drop questions.
I really do enjoy using it every week.
It's very fun.
Even just to settle a bet with your friends or something like that.
Ask the Google Assistant, whatever. Like I said last week,
I always tell my wife to use the Google Assistant app
on our phone because I don't
want people to think that I'm running her team for her.
You download the Google Assistant app
and you say, hey Google, talk to CBS Sports.
Then you ask your question.
We will do that in a moment. Let's let Heath
and Dave debate. Heath, you can go first.
Jameis Winston or Ben Roethlisberger this week?
Like both of these guys this week, they're both top 10 quarterbacks,
but I will go with Jameis Winston against a much worse defense.
The Atlanta Falcons just don't have enough healthy bodies,
and the bodies they do have are not their good players.
Winston will throw the ball a bunch
because Tampa Bay is the worst rushing team in the NFL,
and this game has the second highest over-under on the slate,
so there will be points scored.
Start Jameis Winston with confidence.
I think that Roethlisberger is just a little bit safer.
It's Winston's first start.
We don't know exactly how great he'll be.
He looked okay against Chicago a couple weeks ago,
and I know that he's been preparing.
He's done a lot during his suspension to come back and be ready to play.
But Roethlisberger's got a good matchup himself.
Before last week, Cincinnati allowed two passing touchdowns
and 316 pass yards per game to every quarterback they faced.
That's the average.
Roethlisberger, 21 or more fantasy points in three of his last four
against Cincinnati.
He had almost 300 yards with two touchdowns and a pick at Cincinnati last year.
And this whole thing about Ben on the road being bad,
he's had 300 or more yards and or multiple touchdowns
in each of his last six on the road.
So I think that that provides a nice floor for him,
the way that he's throwing the football to everybody,
including James Conner last week.
I think that helps him get closer to a higher ceiling.
I'm trusting Roethlisberger before Winston.
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ouch what happened
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20 minutes ago
now we know why the Jags
I never had any
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He was not going to keep that.
He's taking any of that. Oh, absolutely.
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Here we go with Indy at the Jets.
Oh, just terrible.
Sorry about that.
That of the game.
New York State is home to 58 species of wild orchids.
Oh, nice.
58.
I mean, I couldn't believe that number.
I thought it would be in the 40s.
Indy.
Indy.
Indy and the Jets.
Nice.
Andrew Luck.
Big difference in the rankings here Dave has Luck 4th
Heath has Luck 14th
How about that?
14th
How come?
Listen
Okay
I like Andrew Luck
And I have been a supporter of Luck
Since the summer
So I don't want to say anything negative
About Andrew Luck
But the key to his success the last two weeks
Has been volume
Oh no kidding
121 pass attempts in two games
I completely agree with you Heath
The key to both of those games
In the second quarter
Against the Patriots,
they were down 21-3.
Midway through the third against Houston, they were down three scores.
I don't think this Jets team is the type of team that's going to build
a three-score lead early against the Colts.
And you look back at what happened to Luck.
Remember before these last two games what people were saying about Andrew Luck?
Oh, his shoulder's terrible.
You can drop Andrew Luck.
You can't trust Andrew Luck.
Not a lot changed other than the fact that he threw a billion passes.
And he did play better against Houston.
I did think he looked really good last week.
I don't think he was as bad in the first two games that everybody was so
worried about. But when you're
only throwing 31 passes against
Washington because your team has a lead,
or you're only throwing 40 against Philadelphia
because they don't have a good offense...
And guess what? It doesn't have T.Y. Hilton
or Jack Doyle. That's not a small deal.
Exactly.
14th is kind of
low, I guess. 4th is kind of of low i guess fourth is kind of high i guess so dave um discuss
your thoughts on andrew look well his completion percentage over the last two weeks has been at 64
so with all the work he has been getting he has connected very well with them and his yards per
attempt is up and obviously his touchdowns are. He has seven passing in the last two weeks.
More importantly, they can't run the ball at all.
They don't have a good running game.
Now Marlon Mack might play this week.
That might, repeat, might change the way I feel about Andrew Luck a smidge
because I think he can give them a decent rushing presence
for however long he's on the field.
But this Jets secondary is horrible.
And even though the Jets aren't going to put up a ton of points
and put the Colts in a hole in this game,
I think there's going to be no choice but for Andrew Luck to continue throwing passes.
And he's not going to throw 50 times in this game.
He might only throw 35, 40 times in this game.
I still think that's enough for him to get you close to 300 yards
and at least two touchdowns,
maybe three. He's got upside.
What if on the off chance
that the Jets offense does
put up numbers? They did it last week against Denver.
This is an easier opponent for
them to do it. Now all of a sudden, Luck
might have to throw even more than what I'm talking
about. I'm not even baking that
into this equation. Let's go back to the 35-40
pass attempts. Let's do it. Because you talked
about how his yard for
attempt has gone up. Yes.
So it was 6.1 last week.
He's 6.1 for the season.
Let's assume he's 6.1 in this game.
He was 7.5 against Houston
two weeks ago. Yes. That was the only game he's at above
7. But that could...
And he had T.Y. Hilton for that game.
Yes. So let's call it 6.1
Okay
Times 35
It's going to be about 250
It's about 200
Well I was doing it times 40
Times 40 would get you about 240
But I don't
He's got to throw it 50 times to have 300 yards
On that yards per attempt average
Yes
Yeah and you know
Look at the last two games, right, good and bad.
If he had thrown 45 passes against Houston, he would have scored 31 fantasy points.
That's great.
In six-point passing touchdown leagues.
If he had thrown 45 passes at New England, he would have scored 21 fantasy points.
And I think he scores 20 fantasy points, to be clear.
I think more than 12 quarterbacks score 20 fantasy points.
All right, all right.
So there's your luck
debate. And I guess that shapes how you
feel about the Colts wide receivers as well.
Yes, because these guys
are averaging like 9 yards per reception.
I just like Chester Rogers' 8 catches
in 2 straight games.
When Andrew Luck throws 60
passes, Chester Rogers gets 10
targets, 11 targets, and then he catches
8 passes for 60 yards.
Right.
But if you cut that number by two-thirds like we are for Lux pass attempts,
then he's getting eight targets, catching five or six of them for 45 yards.
And you're just hoping he scores a touchdown.
Okay.
So you're not starting any of the Colts wide receivers, you're saying?
I'm starting Eric Ebron.
Yeah.
He's their number one wide receiver.
Mm-hmm. Yep. He's their number one wide receiver.
He's a top seven tight end for everybody.
Fourth for Jamie, fifth or sixth for Dave,
sixth or seventh for Heath, depending on the format.
I don't necessarily disagree with what you guys were saying earlier,
that if you're desperate at wide receiver,
these guys are really low-owned and they would be a decent fill-in.
I just don't like them as a top 35 receiver.
You've got to start them.
No, no.
Dave, you have Rodgers ranked the highest, I assume?
Yes.
And you have him 30th.
And in PPR, you have him 23rd.
Like right on the border of a number two receiver.
23rd.
Yep.
Okay.
Would you start any Colts running back?
I don't know if I'm excited to start Marlon Mack.
Certainly as a biweek replacement, I would.
If Mack is out, I will start Hines in PPR.
And if Mack's in, no.
I would back away from Hines too.
But those guys are going to catch passes from Andrew Luck as well.
That's part of the secret to Luck's numbers is what he gets from those running backs through
the air.
All right.
Would you start Hines over either Jets running back this week?
Let's go to the Jets.
As of now, I would in PPR.
Over who?
Both of them.
Really?
I'd start Hines over both of them.
Okay.
I would take Crowell over Heinz and non,
but they're all in the flex group for me.
In non-PPR, I would start both Jets over Heinz.
In PPR, I would start Heinz over both of them.
Is there a Jet that you're excited about starting this week?
No.
In non-PPR, I'm pretty excited about starting Isaiah Crowell.
Where do you have him ranked?
20?
Interesting.
I mean, I was going to guess.
I'm looking now.
It's 19.
That's a pretty good guess.
Wow.
Nice.
You are excited about him.
I currently have him 26.
He'll probably end up moving up at least one spot when Devontae Freeman gets ruled out.
Yeah, and Crowell is—
He might score.
Darius Leonard could be back for Indianapolis.
So it's not as groovy of a matchup or a situation as it was last week for him.
Crowell is 27th for Heath in PPR, so he's a sit in PPR.
He's a start in non-PPR, at least for Heath.
Quincy Inunua, Robbie Anderson, any interest?
Anderson, I think, is a great boomer bust third receiver or flex,
regardless of format.
Indianapolis' secondary is shredded right now,
and the only spot where they're going to get a good player back is going to be in the slot.
Their slot corner will be back.
Their outside corner is lots of issues,
and I think Robbie could take advantage.
I tried to hold on to Quincy Anunua in a couple of PPR leagues.
I had to drop him in a couple as well because I had him in a bunch.
I want to see where he lines up in this game because what happened to him last week, and
I don't know if this is because Chris Harris plays in the slot and they were trying to
get him away from there or what was going on, but he had been a guy that was running
at least half of his routes from the slot.
And last week it fell to 22%.
He's not going to be good if he's running 22% of his routes from the slot.
He's not beating people outside.
Okay, let's wrap this game up.
So, yeah, I think we're done.
I think we wrapped it up.
He went from 14 outside snaps in week 2 to 36 outside snaps in Week 5.
I think they're just using him out there because Jermaine Kearse,
maybe they want to get him going in the slot a little bit more.
All right, let's go to our next game.
Sunday Night Football, Kansas City at New England.
Stat of the game.
Kansas City allows 91 receiving yards per game to running backs.
91, that's the most in the NFL.
Last year, Tennessee allowed the most receiving yards to opposing running backs at 60 yards per game to running backs. 91. That's the most in the NFL. Last year, Tennessee
allowed the most receiving yards to opposing running backs
at 60 yards per game.
So they're pathetic, but
a lot of that was week one
with Gordon and Eckler. They're still bad
in that regard, but not 90 per game.
Anyway, James White is an obvious
start. So I think that
to save time
and to save you from
analysis that you don't really need,
Mahomes and Brady are both top
five. Brady is
number one. Actually, Heath, do you have Brady?
Yeah, you have him fourth. Brady's one
for Dave and Jamie and fourth for Heath.
Everybody has Brady
ranked ahead of Mahomes, but it's close.
Obviously, we're
starting Kareem Hunt.
Michelle and James White are must-starts?
Yes.
Yes.
Is James White a must-start in non-PPR?
Sure.
Number two running back?
There are some running back.
I wouldn't call him a must-start because there are 12 running backs I have ranked higher than him.
I'd rather start Yeldon connor even chris carson
and sony michelle but you're probably starting james white in both formats would you start
james white or jordan howard in non-ppr white white is here's here's his fantasy point totals
this season 10 8 10 22 13 in non-ppr non-pp Yeah, and obviously much, much higher in PPR. Which tight end do you like better, just out of curiosity?
Kelsey.
Kelsey, I'm a little – I'm not worried about Gronk,
but it's a little mystifying trying to figure out where Brady's targets are going in this game.
If we look at the Chiefs passing game, I know we're starting Mahomes,
but just saying, the Patriots right now, they allow
the third fewest yards per attempt in the NFL. They've also been very good at home, but we'll
see. Mahomes is awesome. Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins, however. How good or bad or in between
do you feel about Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins? The Patriots have not allowed a 70-yard wide
receiver in any of their last three games.
That would be at Detroit, Miami, and the Colts.
However, they did allow a touchdown to two Detroit wide receivers.
But pass defense has been okay lately.
So what do you think about Hill and Watkins?
I agree that their pass defense is getting better.
I still think they have a liability at slot corner,
and I don't know if they've got a corner that can match up speed-wise with Tyreek Hill.
Did you hear what Belichick was doing in preparation for this game?
No, what was that?
He was having, in the scrimmages, to prepare his defense for this,
the opposing team's offense was starting with their receivers three yards downfield.
That's interesting.
Really?
Because they didn't have any receivers that could simulate their speed.
You know, I'm surprised that even got out.
Yeah.
Like, that's surprising.
Like, did Belichick say that?
That sounds like something that, like, shouldn't have been said.
Well, that's very interesting.
Look, I mean, I can't sit here and say, is Tyreek Hill a start?
Because he hasn't been that good the last three games.
Start Tyreek Hill, you're probably starting Sammy Watkins
too. You don't have
to start Sammy.
Dave, would you start Chester Rogers
over Sammy Watkins?
I think I would in PPR for sure.
Alright, Sammy Watkins, not so
bad in PPR himself. He had six catches for
78 yards against Jacksonville last
week.
Kelsey, yes.
Gronk, yes.
Brady, yes.
Michelle, yes.
White, yes.
So how about the Patriots wide receivers, Edelman and Gordon?
Gordon has had four targets last week, two targets the week before.
He did catch a long touchdown last week.
Edelman had seven catches for 57 yards on nine targets in week five.
And Kansas City, they were really bad against Pittsburgh and the Chargers wide receivers in the first two games.
Since then, the Chiefs have not allowed double-digit fantasy points
to a wide receiver in non-PPR in three straight games.
No more than 76 yards to a wide receiver in those three games.
No wide receiver touchdowns against the Chiefs in their last three games.
So how do we feel about Edelman and Gordon?
I'm still starting Edelman in PPR with confidence.
I think the matchup is actually best for him.
And Gordon is one of those, you're going to take a shot with shot player type guy.
Like Robbie Anderson, boom or bust.
Yeah, I view Edelman and Gordon pretty close in non-PPR.
They're both just outside of my top 30.
In PPR, Edelman moves up to the top 24 just barely,
and Gordon actually falls a little
because the targets haven't been there for him.
I don't know about whether Edelman has the best matchup
in this Kansas City defense.
In theory, they have three slot corners, and two of them are trying to play outside,
so the slot should be the toughest place against the Chiefs defense.
That hasn't always been true this year, though.
Edelman or Wendell Smallwood?
Smallwood in both.
Smallwood.
Edelman or Clement?
I'll take Edelman in PPR.
That's close.
That's really close.
I'll take Edelman and PPR.
Josh Gordon or Sterling Shepard?
Shepard.
Shepard.
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deposit. The Bears are at the Dolphins Stat of the game I don't know if this matters
But let's see
The Dolphins have allowed
59 or more receiving yards
To a running back
Three times in five games
And three receiving touchdowns
To running backs
Oh those Dolphins
They cannot defend
Past catching running backs
Will that matter for
Tariq Cohen this week
Dave Richard?
I think it does.
I think this is exactly where – hold on.
I have to cough.
Okay.
Nice.
That's better.
Good cough.
Did you hear it?
I did cough.
I hear it, yeah, but not so loud.
Maybe because it was Heath's mic?
Yeah, it was probably Heath's mic.
Does my button not work or what?
Hit the button and talk right into the mic.
Let's see.
Here's what I think of you, Adam.
And that's what I think of you.
I think I heard you say that you think I'm a real nice guy, which makes me happy.
Let's speed it up here.
Chicago and Miami.
The running backs should be the focus of the offense for Chicago.
If we're going to trust Matt Nagy to attack the weakness of his opponent,
that's where the weakness is for Miami.
It's in their run defense and how they do against running backs in general.
All right, which running back do you like better for the Bears this week?
I've got Howard ranked higher.
It's very close in PPR.
How much do you guys trust Jordan Howard?
I'm going to start him, so enough.
What's trust got to do with it?
I do have Cohen one spot higher and not in full ppr
if freeman's out would you start tevin coleman or howard i'd start any bears running back over
any falcons running back i would start howard i'd start coleman over tarik cohen and non-ppr
i don't know dave i'd have to disagree i know that he hasn't been running the ball that well
but he's still put giving you production coleman when Freeman's out. It gets a ton of work.
What's the production?
What's it been?
Ten fantasy points?
Actually, that's been the max, and that was three weeks ago.
He has nine fantasy points combined in his last two games.
Well, Freeman played last week.
Well, Freeman played, and then he got hurt,
and then Ido Smith sniped the touchdown.
He's not playing well.
He's not, but neither is Jordan Howard.
Jordan Howard's averaging, what, 3.2 yards per carry or something?
That's true, but I do like his matchup better,
and I think he'll get more work.
All right.
Would you start Jordan Howard or Julian Edelman, PPR?
Howard.
I might go Edelman.
Okay.
Tariq Cohen or Edelman?
Cohen I had Edelman
I had both
Why is Allen Robinson so low in the rankings?
Heath's actually the highest
He has a 26 in PPR outside the top 30 in non-PPR
I think he's only given you double digit PPR fantasy points once this year
And I think this is a tough matchup for him.
I was sold on the Dolphins' pass defense early on this season.
I wasn't quite there in the preseason.
And I know they're missing one of their top corners on the outside,
but they still have Xavier Howard, who is a little hot and cold.
But at slot, they've got Mika Fitzpatrick.
So if they go in the slot, then I think Robinson's going to have a tough time with him.
I think Robinson's just not going to get the type of volume that you want.
He's got one game this season with more than four catches,
and he's facing Xavier and Howard,
and everyone else in this offense has a good matchup in the passing game.
I just don't think they force it to him.
Not whoever's in the slot.
Do not overlook Mika Fitzpatrick.
He's been very good.
He's allowed fewer numbers than Howard.
Howard's allowed some touchdowns.
That's according to our friends at Sports Info Solutions.
What about Trey Burton?
I'm not sure Trey Burton has a good matchup
because Delaney Walker had 52 yards on seven targets.
He then left with an injury.
Jared Cook had five catches for 31 yards against the Dolphins,
and Rob Gronkowski had four catches for 44 yards.
I've got to give the Dolphins credit.
They've done well against good tight ends.
They're one of the few teams that's faced multiple good tight ends, I'd say.
Yeah, Burton is not by any stretch of the imagination a must start.
I don't know how he could be with the limited targets that he's gotten.
He is, for me, kind of the last guy in that, okay, am I going to start Niles Paul?
Yeah, you go for it.
I don't want to start Niles Paul? Yeah, you go over him.
I don't want to start Niles Paul, but he did get nine targets last week.
He's not a bad streamer, but I'm not going to start him over Trey Burton.
But I'd start Cameron Braid over him.
I'd start Jared Cook, Eric Ebron, Jordan Reed, all those guys over him.
Okay.
The quarterbacks were sitting, right?
Trubisky and Tannehill.
Yeah, yeah. Any Dolphins? Are you starting any Dolphins in this game? The quarterbacks were sitting, right? Trubisky and Tannehill.
Any Dolphins?
Are you starting any Dolphins in this game?
Drake's a flex, and so is Kenny Stills.
Drake looked so good last week.
You'd love to see him get more work.
I think the coaches are starting to be open to the idea of using him as a pass-catching running back,
and he had a lot of garbage time numbers last week a lot of
catches came in garbage time he had a 25 yard run to end the game it was kind of pathetic to watch
but he got you two and a half fantasy points doing it um and at the same time he also had a play where
he pancaked a defender caught a ball juke two defenders broke a tackle and that wasn't even the
the play that he caught a touchdown on.
So he's got talent.
It's just a matter of the Dolphins leaning on him and trusting him, which clearly they have issues with.
America's got talent, Dave, they say.
America.
Kenyon Drake or Kenny Stills, who's a better flex?
I'll take Drake.
Yeah, I think I will too.
All right, Kenyon Drake or Taylor Gabriel?
Who's a better flex?
Gabriel's interesting in PPR because of the volume that he gets.
I believe he actually leads the Bears in receptions.
I'll take Drake and non-Gabriel in PPR.
Who's a better flyer this week?
Taylor Gabriel or one of those Colts wide receivers?
I'll take Rodgers over Gabriel.
I'll take Gabriel over all of the Colts.
Gabriel gets a lot of his targets in short yardage,
and the Bears try and have him make a play after the catch.
29 targets, that's second on the Bears to Robinson.
22 catches, that's first on the Bears out of Robinson.
193 yards, that's just behind Robinson.
Two touchdowns, that leads Bears wide receivers.
Okay, let's go to our next game.
It is Cincinnati hosting Pittsburgh.
Stat of the game.
A.J. Green in his last three home games against Pittsburgh.
224 yards and a touchdown.
132 yards and a touchdown.
77 yards and two touchdowns.
He missed the 2016 game, but boy, he's been a monster in this matchup at home against Pittsburgh.
So maybe a DFS play for you there.
Which quarterback do you like better?
Dalton.
Roethlisberger.
They're both worthy of being started.
And we can start them ahead of Jared Goff, I assume?
Yes, correct.
And both the quarterbacks tonight.
You know, I might take Goff over Dalton.
All right, James Connors, top nine in both formats.
Bengals allow 4.7 yards per carry.
Start both Pittsburgh-wide receivers.
Kind of interesting that Dave and Jamie have Antonio Brown number one overall. Heath
has him about 10th.
Any reason for that, Heath?
He had a very good game with a couple
touchdowns last week, but on a per-target
and per-catch basis, he and Ben have not been on the same page
still this year. There are two receivers in the
NFL with at least 40 targets
that have caught less than 60% of them
and averaged less than 11 yards per reception.
One of them is Antonio Brown.
The other one is Michael Crabtree.
Wow.
I love how they connected in the second half last week.
Because in the first half, you're right, Heath.
They were way off.
And Cincinnati has done a good job against Antonio Brown in the past.
His – yes.
Oh, he has one touchdown in his career at Cincinnati, and it came last year.
But that's pretty crazy, one touchdown at Cincinnati in his career.
Starter sit Vance McDonald.
I'm trying to get away from him.
Yeah, there's plenty of other low-owned tight ends I'd rather start.
McDonald or Burton?
Burton.
I have Burton.
And the other tight end in this game over McDonald.
Oh, C.J. Uzama. Pittsburgh other tight end in this game over McDonald. Jesse James.
Oh, CJ Uzama.
Pittsburgh.
Oh, wow, really?
Okay.
Pittsburgh is terrible against everything but running backs.
Second most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Third most to wide receivers.
Second most to tight ends.
There are going to be a lot of starts here for the Bengals.
Dalton's a start. Joe Mixon, does it worry you at all that his matchup is tough?
The Steelers do have a good run defense, 3.4 yards per carry.
I'll tell you what.
For a guy that's coming off of arthroscopic knee surgery, he looked really good.
Again, in the second half against the Dolphins, making an impact, catching the football,
I think that helps his profile.
I'm going to enjoy using Joe Mixon while Giovanni Bernard is on the shelf.
Okay.
Must start guy, right?
Yep.
Mixon or Sonny Michel?
I believe I have Mixon ranked higher.
I definitely have Mixon higher in PPR, and I have him higher in non-PPR as well.
All right.
AJ Green's top eight.
Are we getting back to Tyler Boyd this week, 94% owned?
Right back to him. He's a top 24 wide receiverd this week? 94% owned. Right back to him.
He's a top 24 wide receiver for me.
I don't know how high Heath has him.
I don't love his specific matchup against Mike Hilton.
That's a slot corner for Pittsburgh.
But I like the volume, and certainly he can get away from Hilton
depending on how the Steelers scheme him up.
Tyler Boyd or Sammy Watkins?
Boyd.
Boyd. Tyler Boyd or Sammy Watkins? Boyd. Boyd.
Tyler Boyd or Jordan Howard?
Definitely Boyd in PPR.
In non-PPR, I'll go Howard.
Okie dokie.
And that's it.
Buffalo is at Houston.
Stat of the game.
In their last three weeks, Buffalo has held Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers,
and Marcus Mariota to 16 or fewer fantasy points in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues.
Cousins had 11.
Rodgers had 16.
Mariota had four.
Does that mean anything to you as you rank Deshaun Watson?
No.
Not particularly.
I'd rather start Jameis than Watson, but other than that, I'm starting Watson.
Would you start Dalton or Watson?
Watson's one spot higher than Dalton for me.
Watson's several spots higher than Dalton for me.
And that's in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues.
So four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, it's very easy, I assume, right?
Yes.
Watson has four straight games with 23 or more fantasy points in six-point leagues,
four straight games with 310 or more passing yards, three straight games with 310 or more passing yards,
three straight games with 375 or more passing guards,
and 36 or more rushing guards in all five games.
Okay, that's great.
Houston running backs, are you starting either?
Well, how about this?
Rank the three running backs in this game in Buffalo, Houston.
Well, that's a tough question.
They're all outside of my top 24.
It's McCoy, then Blue, I guess.
Miller says he's going to play.
Yeah, I'm going McCoy, Blue, Miller.
I'm going to go McCoy, and then I'm not going to make a choice.
To me, there's only one guy to rank, and that's McCoy.
So do you just think that Lamar Miller, if he plays,
is not going to get his
full workload? No, I do not think he
will. Splitsville.
Which
Texans running back do you rank higher?
Blue.
I guess, as of now,
Blue is ranked higher.
I'm not going to feel good about starting either one.
You start Tyler Boyd over LeSean McCoy?
Yes.
How many wide receivers for the Texans would you start over McCoy?
Obviously Hopkins. Anyone else?
Fuller and PPRQT for sure.
Yeah, I might do it in non-PPRQT.
Hopkins is the only one I would start over McCoy.
I'm a little worried about Will Fuller.
And he's awesome and has huge upside, and I'm not saying you should bench him.
He's not in my top 24 wide receivers, so I kind of am saying you should bench him.
But there's no time for Deshaun Watson at all.
And Fuller doesn't run generally the types of routes, especially with QT there,
that a quarterback looks for when there's no time. But when there is time. Right. And Fuller doesn't run generally the types of routes, especially with QT there, that a quarterback looks for when there's no time.
But when there is time.
Right.
And Fuller's deep.
But I don't – like this Buffalo defense is not bad.
I think he's a little bit more than just a deep ball threat now.
I agree.
But to your point, Heath, like I – and every single week I'm going to have to choose two out of three between Tyler Boyd, Julian Edelman, and Will Fuller in PPR.
And it's just sort of an excuse right now to sit Fuller.
You know, it makes my decision easier.
He's been under 50 yards in each of his last two games with eight total targets.
He's playing hurt.
QT's taking on more work.
So it's an easy call for me to get away from Fuller,
even though I do think he could have a good game.
But if you have good options, it's just, yeah, to me it's an easy call.
QT is 64% owned.
It's probably too low.
Start or sit?
I like him better in PPR.
I think he's a sneaky flex, maybe even close to the border of a number two wide receiver
in PPR.
Yeah, he's not in my top 35, but I do think he has upside, and I do like him more in PPR.
At Buffalo in their last three games, they've faced, I guess,
four games. Keenan Allen, Stefan Diggs,
Devontae Adams, Corey Davis.
None of them have scored. None of
them have more than eight fantasy points in non-PPR.
They've done a good job. Buffalo's
defense has gotten better.
It's been an interesting game, I think.
Chargers at Cleveland.
Another interesting game, stat of the game.
Phillip Rivers has three carries inside the five-yard line.
That is as many as Austin Eckler and Melvin Gordon combined.
That's very strange.
Melvin Gordon has one carry inside the five-yard line.
There could be even more production coming for Melvin Gordon.
There could be less production coming for Phillip Rivers,
who has 7.5% touchdown rate, which is by far career-highest.
Career rate is 5.3%.
I am so proud right now.
Right?
I knew you would be.
I am so proud of you.
That was one of my favorite moments in the podcast.
Yeah, I'm scared of Rivers this week.
I mean, he's number 11 for me, so he's ranked as a starter.
But this Cleveland defense has been one of the best in the NFL
at turning quarterbacks
over, and we've seen plenty
of West Coast teams
playing in these games that start at 10 a.m.
their time. They generally get off to
slow starts. I think this is a low-scoring, ugly
type game.
I don't know if that Browns defense is...
They've turned the ball over a lot, but
they're getting a little thin in the secondary.
I could see Rivers getting off to a slow start.
I could see him finishing fast, though.
All right, yeah, Dave has Rivers sixth.
Jamie and Heath have Rivers eleventh.
So you have to check the rankings, you know, if you're comparing him to Dalton or Winston.
Heath definitely has those two ahead of Rivers.
Dave, do you have Winston or Rivers?
I have Rivers ahead of Winston.
All righty.
Austin Eckler, the new Alvin Kamara.
He's averaging 6 yards per carry and 14.8 yards per catch.
He has three receiving touchdowns on 14 catches this year.
Starters at Austin Eckler.
He has more fantasy points per game than touches per game.
Oh, wow.
That's funny.
That is.
I'm fine using him as a number two running back or a flex.
I think he can keep this up.
I think he has 17 plays of 10-plus yards already this season.
They're being real judicious about how often they use him,
but when they do use him, he's effective.
I will say that I do not think that he can keep this up. Sure. being real judicious about how often they use him but when they do use him he's effective i i will
say that i do not think that he can keep this up sure i don't i don't um want to start austin
eckler in this game he is a low end flex for me i understand if you can't get away from him
but he's getting seven carries and three targets per game like their increased passing to the
running back has mostly been increased passing to Melvin Gordon.
He got one pass last week.
Yeah, right.
Last week, just one grab.
How about Alshon Jeffrey or Alston Eckler?
I'd start Jeffrey.
I believe I have Eckler ranked ahead of Jeffrey.
All right.
Are we starting any Chargers wide receivers other than Keenan Allen?
I am not.
Okay.
Are we starting a tight end in this game?
Njoku and PPR.
I am not.
Yeah.
I mean, Njoku's gotten a lot of work with Bayfield the last two games.
Seven targets against Oakland, 10 targets against Baltimore,
and 11 catches for like 110 yards or 121 yards in those two games.
Just need those touchdowns.
Yeah.
I don't love his matchup this week.
Derwin James, one-on-one with him probably for most of the game.
That'll be tough.
He won't get open very often.
Yeah, oh, actually, good point,
because here's what good tight ends have done against the Chargers.
Travis Kelsey had one catch for six yards.
Jared Cook had four catches for 20 yards.
George Kittle had six for 125 and a touchdown.
He did have a somewhat fluky 82-yard touchdown catch.
So we'll see.
Maybe the Chargers are going to be a team that's very good against tight ends.
What do we think about the Browns in this game?
Are we starting Baker Mayfield, Carlos Hyde, et cetera?
I think Hyde's one of those running backs
that you just kind of have to go with
based on his volume.
Number two running back
for me. And I think this could
be a Jarvis week. I think this
could be a pretty good game for Jarvis.
I think he can get you some good numbers. I like him as a number two
receiver, even in non-PPR.
Yeah, he's a number two receiver.
Hyde is, I agree with everything Dave said,
you have to start him. I don't,
I know there's some excitement about Baker Mayfield,
I'm not feeling it this week. I think it may
come after this week.
Right, schedule gets really good for them. Jarvis Landry,
by the way, is on pace for 93
catches. And we talked about Taylor
Gabriel, we talked about the Colts wide
receivers. What about
Antonio Callaway with Higgins out?
Do you think Callaway is a good Hail Mary type play this week?
He's only a Hail Mary type play.
They are getting less and less enchanted with him.
Derek Willies had the same number of targets as Antonio Callaway last week
when Higgins went down.
And I have no idea who Derek Willis is. I'm just
now learning about him.
Here's the cliff notes.
He's 6'4".
Nice big outside receiver
with a horrible pedigree
coming out of college. Los Angeles
Rams are at Denver
and stat of the game.
Demarius Thomas has gone three straight games with
five to seven targets
after having 21 targets combined in his first two games.
They have really seemed to transition away from Thomas and to Emmanuel Sanders,
even though Thomas did have 100 yards and a touchdown last week.
Do you rank Sanders ahead of Demarius?
Yes, but they're much closer this week than they were before.
Yes, I do.
Do you start them?
Yeah. I, I do. Do you start them?
Yeah. I'm starting Sanders. I am not starting Demarius.
What are you worried about with Demarius?
He's had five targets.
Five to seven targets, three straight games.
Five to seven targets, three straight games.
It's not enough.
The touchdown last week was definitely fluke-ish.
And Cortland Sutton
actually started to get in on the act before he did last week.
I think Cortland Sutton is the best receiver on the Broncos.
He's not in fantasy because he's not getting the targets, but he's going to be good.
I think he will be good.
Yeah, that's a beat the waiver while they're kind of good.
I guess you have to have pretty deep rosters, but I could see a scenario where he has a good second half.
And then, according to Sut sudden, Sanders or Josh Gordon?
Oh, Sanders pretty easily.
Yes.
Demarius or Josh Gordon?
I would rather start Josh Gordon than Demarius.
Not me.
I'll take Demarius.
Philip Lindsay or Royce Freeman?
Lindsay.
Lindsay.
Philip Lindsay or Carlos Hyde?
I think I have Hyde ranked higher.
Almost positive. Yeah, definitely Hyde. All think I have Hyde ranked higher. Almost positive.
Yeah, definitely Hyde.
All right, what about Freeman?
How about Freeman or Emmanuel Sanders?
Freeman's not a start for me.
Nope.
They can talk about giving him more touches all they want.
Until they do, I'm not starting him.
Can you believe an NFL coach lied to the public?
That's Really weird.
The Rams, by the way, are allowing 4.9 yards per carry to running backs,
but they have been great against running backs in the passing game.
As we take a look at the Rams, should we just wait and see?
Well, I mean, we know the weather's going to be really cold in this game.
So give me your overall take on everybody but Gurley, just the passing game.
I love Robert Woods if he's the only receiver
among their starters who's healthy for the game.
We aren't ranking it this way.
My guess is
that all of the Rams wide receivers are playing.
Are all of them starting
for you?
I can't imagine I'm actually going to
bench any of them.
Rams DST is top 10.
I understand what you're saying about the weather and golf. I just can't imagine I'm benching any of them. Exactly. Okay. Rams DSD is top 10. I understand what you're saying about the weather and
golf, and I just can't
imagine I'm benching any of them.
Rams DSD is top 10. Two bad weeks
in a row, but Denver's allowed 11
sacks in the last three games.
And Baltimore's at Tennessee. Our final game
here, stat of the game. The Titans
have not allowed a touchdown to a running back this year.
And they've allowed just one carry
of 20 plus yards. I don't think they're that good against running back this year. And they've allowed just one carry of 20-plus yards.
I don't think they're that good against running backs, though.
They are giving up like 4.4 yards per carry to running backs.
That's exactly what it is, but no touchdowns, receiving or rushing.
Anyway, general question about Baltimore at Tennessee. Is there one good start in this game?
I like John Brown.
Yeah.
Love his volume.
Last week he just couldn't come through.
Flacco didn't have a great game.
I think Flacco has a chance to rebound a little bit,
and I think John Brown could be that guy.
That helps him.
Yeah.
Okay.
There's not one start that I feel good about in this game,
but I think you're probably starting John Brown.
And there's a decent chance that you don't have a better option
than Alex Collins at running back.
And Corey Davis, I mean, Jarvis Landry, A.J. Green, Antonio Brown,
and Juju Smith-Schuster all failed to reach 70 yards against Baltimore.
That said, Green had three touchdowns, Brown had one,
Tyler Boyd had a big game, but a lot of that was without Jimmy Smith.
So it's a tough, it's a low-scoring game.
I don't think there's a lot of difference between Corey Davis and John Brown.
Well, Brown's been better.
But I like Corey Davis.
You mean this week or overall?
This week.
Okay.
Tennessee has allowed 100 yard games too
Kenny Stills, DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller
And Alshon Jeffrey
So it would appear that they're a better matchup
You know
For what it's worth
Hey guys thanks
I gotta take this friggin onesie off
It went from being the best gift you ever got
To a friggin onesie
I do like it very much Dave
But I'm hot and uncomfortable,
and there's just a lot of – forget it.
Forget it.
We're out of here.
No.
Back sweat?
No.
No back sweat.
That lower back sweat area?
I don't do back sweat.
I don't sweat from my back.
I don't do it.
You're such a liar.
It's really hard to sweat when you don't do anything physical.
He's going to roll his chair over into the living room now to watch
some Price is Right and then roll it over
to the oven to pick up the
whatever's cooking for lunch.
Can't dispute that. Alright,
we are out of here. I got nothing to cook for lunch
so I'll actually be going out for lunch today
and bringing something back in.
Just so you all know. We have a fantasy baseball
podcast later today so get excited for that.
For Dave Richard, for Heath Cummings, I'm Adam Azer.
Have a great Thursday.
Go Giants!
Na, na, na.
It's alright.
I've got Le'Veon.
It's alright.
Not George Le'Veon.
It's alright.
I've got Le'Veon Bell.