Fantasy Football Today - 10/15 Fantasy Football Podcast: Week 6 Recap - Rodgers Out, AP Back?

Episode Date: October 16, 2017

Well, that stinks! Aaron Rodgers could miss the rest of the season and it will affect every Packers Fantasy option. We begin our show with that news before another round of "Who's the Boss" (11:30) in different backfields across the NFL such as NE, GB, WAS and more ... Winners including Cameron Brate (20:30) and Adrian Peterson (23:00), losers including Matt Ryan (27:05). Plus the Top 5 QBs (31:00), RBs (33:20), WRs (35:55) and TEs (37:02) of Week 6 ... Recapping every game (41:21) with Fantasy analysis. Any optimism for Amari Cooper, Ben Roethlisberger or Matt Forte? ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! If you still draft quarterbacks in round one, we're here to help. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Ian. All right, that's our typical standard intro music, but you know what?

Like, we need sadder music. We need, like, we need something really down, really low-key. The Aaron Rodgers might be out for the season music, so I think I'm just going to be kind of upset for the next hour. Should be a good listen. Jamie, Heath? Well, you're also watching the Giants play, so you're probably going to be really depressed. And your Yankees are down 0-2. At least you have your Canes.

Canes are top 10. Congratulations. There you go. If you had to pick one team, knowing where the Yankees are right now, to win a title? Hurricanes. Hurricanes? Yeah. So, Heath, good evening to you, Heath.

Aaron Rodgers might be over the air. Did you hear? This is why we tell you not to draft quarterback early. Ah, this is why, huh? It's such an injury-prone position, you know? Always. No, it's awful. And it's not like it's awful if you spent your second or third round pick

or, God forbid, your first round pick on Aaron Rodgers, but it's awful if you own Ty Montgomery or Aaron Jones. It's awful if you own Jordy Nelson or Devontae Adams. It's awful if you own Randall Cobb. It's a terrible thing. Yeah, it stinks, and that's our big news. We're going to start with that. We're going to bring back Who's the Boss? because there are just

every week backfield battles that sort of, you know, week by week, they make us think differently about different backfields. New England, Washington, with Chris Thompson getting a lot of carries today. Baltimore, Green Bay, we'll talk about it all. Everybody good? Everybody have a nice Sunday?

Week six Sunday? Good? Treat you well? Yeah. Kirk Cousins, as it stands right now, is the number one fantasy quarterback. Number one! Wow. Wow.

That is outstanding. The curse is broken. Eli Manning is only in the first quarter, Jamie. So, you know, just be aware. Oh, that's true. That's true. So Trevor Simienki catching. Yeah.

That's great. Heath, you good? Yeah, everything's pretty good. I mean, Kevin Hogan was pretty awful, and I got a bunch of tweets about that. But, you know, the way I see it, he outscored Aaron Rodgers and Jamison Whitson. I don't know what you guys wanted. Yeah, exactly. We knew that.

We saw that coming. All right, so Rodgers breaks his collarbone and could miss the rest of the season. Safe to drop him, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it sucks. So here's what happened in 2013.

Tony Romo. Yeah, it's a good idea. It's a good idea. I would really miss Romo on the broadcast, but it would make sense. In 2013, in seven games. He could play the NFC games and then come back and do the AFC broadcast. But could he wear a microphone while he plays quarterback and they could just cover the Packers every week?

I mean, they pretty much do. I think Fox would probably be upset with that. Yeah, probably. So seven games without Rodgers in 2013. The Packers went 2-4-1. They averaged 21.7 points per game, which is pretty bad. Jordy Nelson, this is not good. These were his stats in seven games without Rodgers.

I did not include the game that Rodgers got hurt against the Bears. The seven games after that. 32 catches for Jordy Nelson. That's like four and a half a game. 437 yards, one touchdown. Two games with double-digit fantasy points and standard scoring leagues out of seven. They ran the ball a lot, not as much as they did before, but Eddie Lacy had about 18 carries per game,

which actually was less than what he was averaging before the Rodgers injury. And you've got to know, they didn't play well. They were losing a lot, so they couldn't run the ball as much as they would have liked. He averaged four yards per carry. But what do you guys think? I mean, they've got New Orleans next week. How great would that have been for Aaron Rodgers? What do you guys think about the Packers?

We do winners and losers, and the Packers offense is one of your two losers. Can you even think about starting Jordy Nelson and Adams and the running backs? What do you think? Oh, I don't think you're going to be able to get away from starting Jordy Nelson or Devontae Adams because I still, this team I don't believe has a very good defense. And the offensive line was good for like three quarters, but now they're all hurt again. They're all hurt. Two tackles left again and left guard left with an injury.

I don't believe they're going to be able to run without the threat of Aaron Rodgers. They can't run block. So they're going to throw the ball a ton, and they're going to end up chasing the scoreboard. They're going to be a bad team. Adams and Jordy, I would expect, will still be started almost each and every week. What they need to do is turn the offense over to Aaron Jones. Well, so they basically split reps, Jones and Montgomery, today. And they were both ineffective.

Yep. But become a run team. See if you can develop your running game. They don't have any offensive linemen. We don't know the severity of the injuries yet. Yeah, we don't know how long they're going to be out. So then they have New Orleans this coming week, and then they have a bye, and then Detroit and at Chicago, et cetera.

I could see these guys being like T.Y. Hilton. Hilton's had five games so far, and three of them have been really bad. Two of them have been really good. I don't know that they're must-starts every week. The difference, I think, though, is Hilton is the guy in his offense. Yeah, he's better. He's better, you know? He's better than—

He's in a better situation than Jordy or Adams because he's not fighting for targets. That's what I was going to say. He doesn't have to compete for targets like those guys do. The nice thing is that, look, Hundley got Adams in the end zone. So it's not like it was a complete dud. And he should have gotten Montgomery in the end zone. Yeah, he did have Montgomery in the end zone, so it's not like it was a complete dud. And he should have gotten Montgomery in the end zone. Yeah, he did have Montgomery in the end zone. He dropped it.

And we also don't know if Hundley is the short-term answer or quarterback. What is the long-term answer? I mean, Romo's a joke, but, you know, Romo coming back is a joke. But I wonder, you know, what they do, what they do if there is something, because I don't think it's going to be Kaepernick after he's going to file a lawsuit against the league. So is there somebody out there that can maybe bridge the gap for them? I don't know. Matt Flynn? I don't think there's anybody else.

Jimmy Garoppolo? Oh, I don't think there's anybody else. Jimmy Garoppolo. Oh, I don't think they're making that. That's a franchise-changing trade. You know, Aaron Rodgers is not done for his career. Yeah. You know, the thing that they could try and do is, is there a backup somewhere, not obviously Ryan Fitzpatrick, but somebody like that?

Do you think going forward you're going to prefer Alex Collins or one of the Green Bay running backs? I'm going to prefer the Green Bay running backs. All right. Well, we'll get to that and who's the boss. Other news, Leonard Fournette hurt his leg, but he came back in. I had all these Chris Ivory stats queued up. Ivory 6%.

Did he come back in? Yes, he did. He said he was able to come back in. I had all these Chris Ivory stats queued up. Ivory 6%. Did he come back in? Yes, he did. He said he was able to come back in. I don't think he came back in. He may not have come back in. They had the game in hand. They were going to lose, but he was able to come back in. That looks scary.

His knee went one way and his body went another. It did, yeah. So I think Ivory probably want to think about getting him anyway. He's 6% owned and caught a touchdown today on a screen pass. Did okay last year, actually, Chris Ivory when he had double-digit carries. He scored eight or more fantasy points in four out of six games with double-digit carries. He had a lot of fumbles.

Marcus Mariota is going to reportedly start tomorrow night or Monday night, depending on when you're listening. Jameis Winston left in the second quarter with a shoulder injury, but he expects to play next week. Golden Tate left with a shoulder injury. Bonanza, did anybody – we got an update on Golden Tate? Is it serious?

I don't think we know. Now, do you actually get credit for the Bonanza? Yeah, we should talk about this. Here's the thing. I won't accept a loss. I can accept a draw. There were 90 points scored in the game, but there were five defensive touchdowns. Breeze and Thomas really failed.

Was it a great fantasy day? I mean, it was for Ingram. Kamara was fine. Golden Tate was great. Marvin Jones, he got 20 points from Stafford. His second best game of the year. I think it was a successful Bonanza. I do.

But I understand. Breeze stunk. He did. He did. Michael Thomas stunk. Yeah. They're not all going to be good. Amir Abdullah stunk.

Yeah, but there was 90 points scored in that game. Well, what do you think? Was this a successful bet? I think if you're willing to accept the draw, I will speak on behalf of Heath and Dave and say we will accept the draw and there will be no bamboozles this week. Beanboozles. So, you know what? I'll put it up

to Twitter. I'll put it up to Twitter. Because, first of all, two of the craziest defensive touchdowns you will ever see. Two defensive linemen standing on the goal line, caught an interception, and stepped in for an easy touchdown. That was nuts. So what should the Twitter polls say? Did Adam win the Bonanza?

Was Detroit New Orleans a successful Bonanza, yes or no? Are we cool with that? All right. I'll put that up now. I'm going to encourage all 117,000. You will say nothing. You will say nothing. You have no control. Are you my Twitter

police? Come on, let this be a legit poll. He's going to send you a bunch of emojis. Alright, guys. Mike Pouncey left with a possible concussion. He still had a good game. We have a lot of fantasy commissioner dilemmas. I just want to say something.

This morning, my wife was like, well, I was like right before game time. And she was looking at – she was about to look at the lineups. And she goes, oh, I hope – You cheated again? No, no, no. I didn't do anything. She goes, oh, I hope my opponent fixed her lineup. I was going to call her and tell her to do that.

And I looked at her and I was like, what? No. You don't do... Let her fend for herself. You don't do that. You don't call your opponent

and say, set your lineup. What the hell is this? Good for her for being a noble friend. That's all I got to say. All right. Who's the boss?

How is that relevant? What do the boss? How is that relevant? What do you mean, how is that relevant? I don't understand what the relevancy is. I was just... You said Commissioner Dilemmas. I didn't know if that tied into something. Oh, yeah, no, it's not really Commissioner Dilemma. Bad story? Kudos to Ali for being nice.

This might be a better story. Last week, she was looking at her scores and she says, uh-oh, my opponent has Crowell. Is that bad? And then before I can even answer, she goes, oh, he's on Cleveland. Never mind. I said, there you go. Now you understand football.

Yeah. Speaking of you cheating, do you regret not taking the tradeoff I sent you? What was it? Will Fuller for Aaron Jones? In the league where you were begging for receivers that you said we wanted to be good, not great? I don't know. Heath, listen to what he

countered with. I sent him that trade-off, which at the time, Montgomery was still hurt. That's a thing. Two, you would say, pretty good waiver-wire additions, right? Yep. He counters. This is what he counters with. After all the Giants guys are decimated, he counters with Wayne Gallman for Will Fuller.

That's awful. What's so bad about that? How is that fair? It's not fair. We didn't have a fair. We didn't have the mechanics to make the trade work. I threw something out there. Aaron Jones for Will Fuller is fair.

It is now. It is now. It was then. If Montgomery was out, it was then? No, absolutely not. I was going to lead running back. You know he knew Montgomery was coming back. We didn't know he was coming back this week. Ever? No, this week. It didn't matter.

Alright, let's play Who's the Boss? Wow. Tell me who's the boss in the New England backfield. Who's the boss? James White. It's the boss in the New England backfield? Who's the boss? James White. It's the New England. Bill Belichick's still the coach there? Mm-hmm.

Okay. Bill Belichick's the boss, and he does not, like, you know, sometimes I used to work at a place where my schedule was not always the same. Like when you're a teenager and you work at a fast food place and you have to check your schedule the week before. That's the New England thing. They don't have a set schedule each week. Their schedule changes each week depending on the needs of the company. And so Mike Gilleslie really let them down with a fumble.

Bill Belichick doesn't like fumbles. I wouldn't be surprised if Deion Lewis is the best running back next week. But just in time, Rex Burkhead's going to get healthy. There's two things I think you've got to look at. First, Deion Lewis has to be added everywhere. Yeah. The second thing is, next week they're facing a team that stinks at defending pass-catching running backs.

At home. In Atlanta. James White's going to go off next week. The game's in Foxborough, right? In New England, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so Deion Lewis, though, I mean, he's been better than Gillisley lately. Last two games.

Yeah, good for him. I will say, though, it is somewhat encouraging as a Gillisley owner that after the fumble and after he was benched when Lewis came on and scored the touchdown, he was getting carries in the fourth quarter. But there's so little that's encouraging as the Gillisley owner. If he doesn't score, he's – Yeah. But they could have easily just said, you're done.

They could have, yeah. Who's the boss in the Green Bay backfield, Green Bay running backs? Who's the boss? I think with how they're going to have to operate, I would lean toward Aaron Jones. I think they might both be unstartable for the rest of the season. You think so? I'm not saying you should drop them. I hope that one of them takes over the job.

But in the current situation, my expectation is, yeah, Aaron Jones gets more work on first and second down. Ty Montgomery gets more work on third down. And the offense is terrible with Brett Hundley. Well, let's look at the numbers. Jones had 13 carries for 41 yards. Montgomery had 10 carries for 28 yards. They both had one catch for less than five yards. But Montgomery did drop an easy touchdown from just a few yards out.

You know, I guess, Jamie, you say that you're expecting more work for – you would expect the game to be more of a Jones-type game. But if they're trailing a lot – and remember, they were 2-4-1 without Rodgers two, three years ago. Wouldn't that be better for Montgomery? Sure. But, you know, I mean, it's at what point are they trailing? Are they trailing in the fourth quarter? Are they trailing in the third quarter?

Are they trailing from the first quarter on? So it'll be game-specific. Next week, they're probably going to be trailing early because they're playing a good offense that has a very good defense, too. Heath, who's the boss in the Baltimore backfield? I think I'm making a change here. I was excited about Javorius Allen after last week, but we're starting to see a trend. I wondered after last week when Alex Collins didn't fumble,

does he get a couple more carries this week? He did, up to 15 carries now, only 10 for Allen in this game. Allen's still getting targets, and I've never seen anything like this. I'm going to check later this evening or tomorrow what the lowest yards per reception with 50 receptions in a season is because I think Javorius Allen may challenge challenge it he just gets tackled immediately every time he catches the pass uh well i mean that often got more work again i'm going to expect that trend to continue unless he fumbles i will say collins is the boss collins is 48 owned

dion lewis is 21 owned jamie who's the bigger priority, Collins or Lewis? Collins just because there's a more easier path to guarantee touches. Who's the boss in the Washington backfield? And I'm really just asking Rob Kelly or Chris Thompson? Chris Thompson. Chris Thompson. Who do you expect to get more carries when Kelly is healthy? Kelly. Kelly, but I don't know if that matters.

Thompson just looks amazing. Well, he had 16 carries for 33 yards, but 105 receiving yards. I don't know. I still like Rob Kelly's outlook. Oh, I don't think it's a bad thing. Your question wasn't who is one good and one bad. Right, who's the boss?

Yeah, I would say that Chris Thompson's Tony Danza and Rob Kelly's Alyssa Mono. Well, actually, maybe Julia Bowers? She was the actual boss, right? Tony just worked for her. I think it was Well, actually, maybe – was it Julia Bowers? She was the actual boss, right?

Tony just worked for her. I think it was Judith Light. Judith Light. Well, actually. I will say that – yeah, Chris Thompson is Tony Danza, who was the cool one on the show, and Rob Kelly is the boss. I don't know who's Mona, though. I guess – well, guess who would you rather own rest of season kelly or p or uh or tom i'd rather own thompson because he's he's healthy and playing right now yeah and and you see what their receiving core is right now it it's not great thompson's their go-to guy who is is the boss? Let's go with the same team.

Who is the boss? The show would not have been as good if it was, who is the boss? Who is the boss among the Washington tight ends, Reed or Vernon Davis? I'm going to stick with Reed, but I don't have any great argument for doing so. You know,

I feel bad for Heath in this regard that he was clearly greg olsen over jordan reed and he doesn't get the chance to prove it that he's right olsen may still beat him uh he might by the end of the season yes very true yeah what a shame but yeah it's um i don't know what i I haven't watched him closely enough specifically on plays. I noticed it like five plays into watching Tyler Eifert that he just was not the same. He'd gone through too many of these things, and he just didn't look right. I haven't noticed that standing out like it did with him with Reed, but that could be it. I mean the guy's just taken a lot of abuse.

And they come off their bye and Reed said he's not 100% healthy. He's not going to be. Davis had the exact same play in this game that he had in the Chiefs game. Just a long catch at the end. I think this one was for

51 yards. I don't remember what it was in the Chiefs. But it was almost identical. He's running from the right side of the field to the left side of the field. He gets about to 20, and he gets a few defenders in front of him. But he had 30 yards of just open space where nobody was near him. It was like you thought you were watching a replay. So right now, are you thinking

buy low or heck no on Jordan Reed? I think heck no. Yeah, I mean, it depends on how low you could buy, but probably heck no. Yeah, I mean, it depends on how low you could buy, but probably heck no. And just an update on my statistical inquiry from earlier. Javorius Allen has caught 23 passes already, averaging five yards per reception. No player has ever caught 50 passes in a season and averaged less than 5.5.

Wow. The closest was former Baltimore Raven Ray Rice. Yeah, how about that? All right, let's do these quickly here, and we'll get to the rest of the show. Who's the boss in the San Francisco backfield? I'll go with Carlos Hyde because touchdowns are fantasy points. And how about the Houston backfield? Miller.

All right. Those were layups. Now, look, you want to go to a football game, maybe a basketball game, NBA starting up, maybe a baseball game. I'll be at game three Monday night, everybody. How about a concert? How about comedy?

How about theater? Make SeatGeek your go-to app whenever you need tickets to an event. And if you want $20 off your first purchase, use our promo code FFT. I can tell you firsthand how great the SeatGeek app is. I use SeatGeek. I recommend it to all of my friends and my family members. I really do. And so many of our listeners have used our promo code because they know it's a great deal. $20 off with the promo code FFT. Now, the best way to get a great price is to search multiple sites, right? That's what you got to do.

Now, SeatGeek does that for you. It pulls in results from multiple sites, and it shows you the best bargains, and every purchase is fully guaranteed. It's the only app or website that you're going to need for tickets. And our listeners get 20 bucks off their first SeatGeek purchase. Just download the SeatGeek app and use the promo code FFT. That's promo code FFT for $20 off your first SeatGeek purchase. Time for winners and losers for Fantasy Week 6.

And, you know, I think we've covered a lot of it, but we haven't covered this guy, Cameron Brate, Jamie. He's 89% owned. He was started in 67% of leagues. Three big games. Is it four big games in a row? Yeah, four games in a row with a touchdown for Cameron Brait. Just taking advantage of matchups or legit sauce here? Oh, I think it's legit.

I mean, you know, you've seen now this is two games in a row with eight plus targets. So he's part of this passing offense as much as as much as mike evans as much as deshaun jackson so uh the the thought of oj howard taking you know production away that's clearly uh a thing of the distant past and even from one quarterback to the next you know from winston in this game to fitzpatrick that was an area they thought that they could win, and they did. So he's a must start going forward if he hasn't proven that already. Cameron Brait or Jordan Reed? Go Brait.

Really? You got to go Brait now. Oh, okay, okay. I would say that there's two tight ends that you could look at. I don't know if you want to throw Hunter Henry in there because we thought he would be good and he's starting to look like that. But between Braid and Austin Safarian Jenkins, I think must start going forward based on the offenses that they're in

and how they're playing. Well, I agree must start because there aren't that many must start tight ends. But better than Jordan Reed, yes, and maybe better than Jimmy Graham. So here's the thing about Safarian Jenkins. He really has had the great matchups. He had Cleveland and New England back-to-back. You know? We don't care about that?

Oh, no, but you still look at what this receiving core is, and you go back to the preseason. They said that he was going to be a big part of the offense. How could you take him over Jimmy Graham? Come on now. What has Jimmy Graham done so far? He hasn't really done that much, but honestly, Safarian Jenkins hadn't done that much until this week

because even last week he had 29 yards in a touchdown against Cleveland. Sure, but you've got to buy into targets and catches. Eight targets, six catches. This week's 11 targets, eight catches. And if he scores a second touchdown, which he should have, then you're talking about a monster, monster day. Heath, am I crazy? Who are you taking the rest of the season? Graham or

Safarian Jenkins? I will still take Graham over Safarian Jenkins. Alright. We've got Chris Thompson as Jamie's other winner. We talked about him. Heath's winners are... Oh! This guy! Adrian freaking Peterson! 34% started. I think you buried the lead a little bit there, Adam. this guy, Adrian freaking Peterson.

34% started. I think you buried the lead a little bit there, Adam. Yeah, I think I did. Number one running back in fantasy this week going into the Sunday night games. 26 carries, 134 yards, and two touchdowns. And, yes, he looked really good. Wow. What do you think about Adrian Peterson? I don't think Tampa Bay enjoyed their flight across the country very much

because they did not show up to this game ready to play. That was an embarrassment. Peterson looked better, and he's always going to be better with work. I don't want to sell him short, but Tampa Bay was just awful defensively, especially early in this game. I put a poll out on Twitter just about 30 minutes ago.

Adrian Peterson is a must-start running back again, believe it or not, for tomorrow's column. And? 56% do not believe it. Really? That surprises me. Wow. And I think I pretty much agree with him.

I mean, you look at his upcoming schedule at the Rams next week. I could certainly understand starting him and i will probably have him ranked inside my top 20 running backs i mean we're a long way from that but there's also a very decent chance that you have two starting running backs on your roster ahead of adrian peterson so it's hard to call him must start from let me must start i would think he'd be a top 15 type guy and i'm not sure that peterson is that i I don't know that they get into this type of game flow and game situation very often. And I don't know that Peterson's legs hold up to 26 carries either. So high.

So high. I mean, look, he looked great. Give him credit. Give the Cardinals credit. You know, I mean, I'll speak for myself. You know, didn't think that this was going to be a good move at all for them. And they showed that they could still run the ball with effectiveness, that their offensive line is not completely incompetent.

And then maybe it has been Chris Johnson just bringing things down. But this is his best game. In all honesty, he should probably just retire right now. I have my moment. I'm good. He wants to play five more years. He wants to play five more years. Yeah.

If you look at the game, he still looked like he was running a little slow. And I know that sounds like I'm pooping on his parade. But he did everything that you could have asked for him to do in this game. And you could probably get something great in return. Go to the Aaron Rodgers owner with your backup quarterback in Peterson and see if you can get something of a starter that will improve your team. Would you trade Adrian Peterson straight up for Amari Cooper? I think that's kind of team need, but in a vacuum, I would say yes. Yep. Yep.

Okay. Who would you rather have rest of season, Adrian Peterson or Heath's other winner, Jarek McKinnon? McKinnon. I'll go with McKinnon. He was running hot in this one. And, again, as another situation of this game probably worked out a little better for him because of the game flow. I'm not sure it would have been quite this good, but he's running really well. He even had a long run called back, a long pass catch called back because of penalty.

So I think McKinnon is going to be pretty close to my start. He's looked great the last two weeks. You look at the schedule, I mean, I'm not going to say it's like a super easy schedule, but I don't think there's anything there that really scares you. It looks like a more or less favorable schedule for Minnesota going forward. And yeah, I would say not so bad for Arizona either

for what that's worth for Adrian Peterson. But McKinnon could be set up for a good one. And Murray had 15 carries and he went for 28 yards. He just doesn't have any explosiveness. There are holes that are open when he touches the ball in the backfield, and he can't get through them.

That's another guy, Latavius Murray, who is not 100% healthy. He said it a couple weeks ago. Losers from Fantasy Week 6. Heath has Javoris Allen as a loser and the Green Bay offense. We talked about those guys. Jamie has Mike Gillisley as a loser. We discussed him. Who would you rather have rest of season, Gillisley or Peterson?

Peterson. Peterson. And Matt Ryan is Jamie's other loser, and it is so interesting. I don't know what to say at this point. 13 fantasy points. The Dolphins appear to have a very good defense. They still haven't given up more than 20 points in a game yet, but Ryan hasn't scored 20 fantasy points yet.

What do you think about Matt Ryan? How concerning is this for you, Jamie? I mean, it's frustrating. He had a really nice touchdown pass to Marvin Hall, and it looked like he was set up to have a big day. I really don't understand the game flow for the Falcons because Devontae Freeman was awesome in the first half, and they just completely went away from him. So their game plan was a little weird. They kind of let the Dolphins back in the game by how they were operating offensively. Offensive line did not look good.

But I think Matt Ryan is still a buy-low candidate because there's going to be some big games coming because you can't have Julio Jones playing like this. If Julio Jones is going to stink all year, then Ryan is going to stink all year. And that's the thing. Throw the beep, beep, beep ball to Julio Jones is going to stink all year, then Ryan's going to stink all year. And that's the thing. Throw the beep, beep, beep ball to Julio Jones. He's got seven targets in this game.

Less targets than Hooper, less targets than Gabriel. I understand if you want to spread the ball around a little bit and only throw it to him nine, ten times, that's fine. But even on their final drive, that last play of the game, the game's on the line. You're driving to try to win the game, and they're not throwing the ball to Julio Jones. That's what's wrong with Matt Ryan. Yeah, I was surprised. Obviously, I watched Red Zone,

so I didn't see that much of it, but on that final drive, he just wasn't looking at Julio Jones enough. It was weird. I was like, is Julio Jones even on the field? Oh, there he is. He's the gigantic guy, but again, he's been hurt, and I hope he's healthy. Gigantic guy. gigantic guy but again he's been hurt and i hope he's healthy uh buy low or heck no i'm matt ryan i'll buy low i will buy low yes i wonder if if the ryan owner in your league has ryan and watson or ryan and wentz or ryan and i don't know alex sm, if that's where you go as the Aaron Rodgers owner, is make an offer for Ryan to try and salvage your season. Who's a better buy low, Matt Ryan or Ben Roethlisberger?

Ryan easily. Roethlisberger was awful today. Yeah, but I still think that second half schedule is going to really lend to Roethlisberger playing well. They're not going to be this bad. Yeah, but he finished with 14 fantasy points. The touchdown to Antonio Brown was a 10-point swing. Should have been an interception.

And bounced off of a defender's face. Right. And the interception, though, was not his fault. That's true. Okay, so if we take away that interception, but we give him the pick and take away the touchdown, he should have had six points in that game at Kansas City. He was Kevin Hogan today. But the thing I was excited about for him was getting his right tackle back.

Marcus Gilbert, and Marcus Gilbert left with an injury. So right back where we started there. I want to look at the leaderboard for Fantasy Week 6 at the four main positions. But the draft app. I want you all to play more fantasy football. Do some snake drafts every week, play on Draft, and use our promo code FFtoday for a free entry. FFtoday is the promo code when you sign up on Draft. All right.

On this week on the Draft app, I accepted challenges from two listeners. And, Scott Sheriff, you finally got me. Congratulations. I can thank Michael Thomas for my very narrow loss to Scott Sheriff. But Jervs, you challenged me. You talked trash. You thought you were going to win. You lost, buddy. You lost to the champ. And I think you all out there, you can tell when I tell you about the Draft app and do these reads, you can tell how much I genuinely really like playing on Draft. And it's just because I love snake drafts. I love the competition. I love this

aspect of daily fantasy where you're the only player, you're the only owner that owns a particular NFL player. So one of your guys does well. You're the only one that's benefiting from it. And draft is different. It's awesome. And you can play and you can win some money. And you can play for free on draft.

You can enter a pay contest for free when you download draft or you go to PlayDraft.com and you use the promo code FFToday. That's promo code FFToday on PlayDraft.com. What the heck are the Giants doing right now? Like the one time I want them to lose because I need the Broncos DST to come through? Stop it. Come on. Okay, the leaders.

Kirk Cousins. I guess you could say the Sh's coming off the Denver defense tonight. I don't get that at all. That's what he said about Deshaun Watson. Oh, I thought it was a pun. Okay, good. Thank you for that, Heath. Kirk Cousins, 31 points.

Deshaun Watson, 29. Carson Palmer, 27. Ryan Fitzpatrick and Carson Wentz tied at 26. Cousins, Watson, Palmer, Fitzpatrick, and Wentz. Jamie, your reactions to that top five? Well, Cousins, I expect him

to play well. It's great that he's number one, at least as of now. The weird thing about it is he's getting his production without his receivers making a lot of plays. You know what I mean? Terrell Pryor has been such a dud.

Crowder was a dud. Doxon had the one catch for a touchdown. You should have seen us in the green room today, Adam. I picked up Doxon in two leagues last minute and started him today. And I couldn't have been more excited when Cousins, who's the start of the week, throws the touchdown to Doxon on their opening drive. And I'm like, oh, my when Cousins, who's the start of the week, throws the touchdown to Doxon on their opening drive. And I'm like, oh my God, this is going to be a

monster game. I had Doxon ranked in my top 30. I was really excited about it. And sure enough, that was his only play. Yeah, that's what he does. He catches like one or two balls and one of them is a touchdown. Yeah, it was a great week for Cousins, at least for fantasy. A little uneven in the game. Heath, Watson, Palmer, Fitzpatrick, Wentz, anyone you want to highlight there? A different way to do it, I guess, for Carson Palmer this week. For the first month of the season, he was kind of – you talked about how hard everything looked for him, and he needed the high volume just to be a decent fantasy quarterback,

and this was the exact opposite. Everything was easy because he was throwing to one of the top three receivers in NFL history who proved it once again. Deshaun Watson is just amazing. He's not perfect. He's going to make mistakes and he'll still do stupid stuff like the pick six. But he's amazing. There were some fluky touchdowns today.

One of them was John Brown's. Not fluky, not fluky, but lucky to be a touchdown. It was kind of a weird play. All right, top five running backs in Fantasy Week 6 with Adrian Peterson, number one. No, I'm wrong. Melvin Gordon snuck in there at number one, especially in fantasy. Number 48. At 26 fantasy points on like 3.2 yards per carry or something, but you know how he does it.

One rushing touchdown, nine catches for 67 yards. Peterson is two. Le'Veon Bell is three. Ingram is four. Great game for Mark Ingram. 25 carries, 114 yards, and two touchdowns, plus five catches for 36 yards. And Leonard Fournette and Jarek McKinnon tied for fifth overall. This is standard scoring.

By the way, well, let me ask this. yards, and Leonard Fournette and Jarek McKinnon tied for fifth overall. This is standard scoring. By the way, well, let me ask this. Le'Veon Bell, his second game in his last three with more than 30 carries. Does everybody need to pick up James Conner? No. James Conner can't do what Le'Veon Bell is doing right now. I get that, but I just don't like, come on, man. Give Conner seven carries a game.

Don't run Bell into the ground. It's so stupid. They might have seven carries a game. Don't run Bell into the ground. It's so stupid. They might have lost this game if they hadn't run Bell into the ground. He carried their offense. Here's what you have to do as a coach when you have a great running back is run him and run him and run him some more. And then when you're done with him, you discard him and get somebody else. No, that's not a nice thing to say. It's the nature of the position.

This is an exceptional amount of carries. What do you mean it's not a nice thing to say. Well, it's the nature of the position. This is an exceptional amount of carries. What do you mean it's not a nice thing? They're paying them millions of dollars to do it. It's a very, very unkind thing to say. Care about your players' health. No. I do not support this message. Okay.

Well, I don't want him to get hurt, but if I'm the Steelers, I want to get his best production now. Is Mark Ingram a sell-high candidate, or do you think he's a must-start going forward? You know, a lot of times I feel like we're kind of stupid because we act like we know better than the coaches. It's nice when one of these times we're proven right. For like the 17th time on Mark Ingram, just give him the ball. I don't think he's a sell-high. I think he's a top-12 running back the rest of the season. Totally agree.

I think today worked out as great as anything you could have asked for from this trade. Peterson was great. Ingram was great. Kamara was very good. And everybody wins. Kamara was not good in standard, though. He had 75 rushing yards. And he had eight points in standard?

Yeah. That's fine. I mean, that's fine. That's a low end number two is that we all let him rate. Yeah, fine. I mean, that's fine. It's a low end number two. It's how we all let him rate. Yeah, whatever. He was disappointing in PPR. Oh, I had four catches? We had 12. Yeah, you know what? He was fine.

He was fine. Good for you. Alright, wide receivers. Your top five wide receivers, Antonio Brown, Larry Fitzgerald, and then we have a three-way tie. Golden Tate, Mike Evans, and Marvin Jones. They all had right around 95 yards and a touchdown. And Evans, all of his production did not come against Patrick Peterson.

No. You got lucky today. Yeah. I mean, two huge catches, both of them on a different cornerback on the right side of the field. The touchdown was on Bethel, and everybody scores on Bethel. Marvin Jones got a side of the field. The touchdown was on Bethel, and everybody scores on Bethel. Marvin Jones got a lot of targets today. Is this just because they played the Saints and they were coming from behind and they had to throw a lot, or is this because Marvin Jones is going to be,

you know, a flex-worthy guy the rest of the season? He's been building toward this. I actually dropped him in our podcast league to pick up Mike Williams because I thought with their bye week next week and if Williams starts to play better, I wanted to take the upside play because I thought with their bye week next week and if Williams starts to play better, I wanted to take the upside play because I wasn't going to start either one. But if you have

if you picked up Marvin Jones, he's I think under 50% owned. I'll tell you right now, it's 59% under 60%. He's worth holding through their bye week, especially if Tate is banged up. All right. I'm going to go right to tight ends here, and then we'll talk about the games in just a second. Rob Gronkowski is your number one tight end with 20 fantasy points in standard.

Cameron Brate and Zach Ertz tied for two and three. Evan Ingram already is number three, and they've played about 18 minutes in that game, and he just caught a touchdown. And Deion Sims, let's forget about him, and let's go to number six, Hunter Henry. Does it matter to you at all that Hunter Henry got, like, almost 70 of his 90 yards on the Chargers' final drive of the game? No. I mean, this was a disappointment up until that point, so it matters to that extent. I tell you, and it was the same thing that happened with Keenan Allen because he was a huge disappointment in this game.

Rivers is just throwing the ball to Melvin Gordon so much, especially in the red zone. Yeah. Oh, it's everywhere. He's captain check down. I think, you know, we can talk about this now because at the very least, Evan Ingram is going to score 10 fantasy points with 42 yards and a touchdown. He could really be the guy who benefits the most from all these injuries. Well, as long as Sterling Shepard's out for sure. Yeah, but even if Shepard's back, I don't know.

I feel like he's a more talented pass catcher than Sterling Shepard. I do not. I mean, they were both wide receivers maybe, but they need to factor in the position. I think he's going to be more valuable than Sterling Shepard. Yes, agree. Heath? He definitely will be until Sterling Shepard gets back.

Thanks. All right, news and notes, and then we'll get into the games. Tom Brady is the winningest quarterback in NFL history. It took long enough, Tom Brady. C.J. Beathard took over for Brian Hoyer. And San Francisco, they're just rebooting. Deshaun Kaiser could start for Cleveland next week. And Teddy Bridgewater could return to practice this week, in which case he'll have a few weeks to get back off the pup list

or get back into the active roster. Chicago running back Benny Cunningham left with a hamstring injury. It's not huge news, but it happened. Brashad Perryman left with a concussion. And then some offensive line slash defensive injuries. Mentioned this one, but Pittsburgh right tackle Marcus Gilbert, he left with an injury, a hamstring injury in the second quarter. Greg Robinson, the Lions left tackle, left with an ankle injury.

They've got a bye coming up. He's not a very good left tackle. They're hoping to get their real left tackle, Taylor Decker, back. Detroit safety Glover Quinn was evaluated for a head injury. Minnesota played without Andrew Sandejo, and then Anthony Barr, their linebacker, left with a concussion. So that's a safety and a linebacker. Might not be available next week against Baltimore. Green Bay cornerback Quinton Rollins got hurt in the second quarter.

That was the fourth Green Bay starting defensive back to be out because they came into the game without three defensive backs, and he was the fourth, Quentin Rollins. It's good going into a game against Drew Brees. Yeah, it's great, right? Washington is mega banged up now. They lost a safety, Brashad Breeland, a cornerback, and defensive tackle Jonathan Allen.

And Breeland and Allen are having MRIs. And Josh Norman's already out. So good for Philly. Carson Wentz. And that, I mean, I'm really looking forward to that game. Monday night football, Washington at Philadelphia. We were having this discussion today. Are the Eagles the best team in the NFL right now? No.

Oh, yeah. And the NFC, I saw that asked on one of the talk shows, and I thought, no, that's silly. It's clearly Green Bay. That's not the case anymore. Well, you'd say that they're better than Atlanta, right? I don't think they're going to win the NFC. I'll just say that.

Who is? Seattle? The field. Could be Seattle. Could be Dallas. I'm not counting Dallas out, even if they don't have Zeke. I'd go with Seattle. Could be Dallas. I'm not counting Dallas out, even if they don't have Zeke. I'd go with Seattle. Seattle just has a way to get themselves right.

Philly might be the best right now in the NFC. What about New Orleans? I don't think they're going to win. I don't know. Three straight games of good defense. It's true. They did play pretty well defensively, even with all the points scored. Wasn't on defense, necessarily.

All right. Almost touchdowns for Jeremy Curley, Ty Montgomery, Hunter Henry, George Kittle, Austin Tafarian Jenkins. They almost scored. Tafarian Jenkins actually did score. So did Curley, actually. Chargers and Raiders. Ty Montgomery.

I said that one, yeah. I'm sorry. Breezed through it. Chargers 17, Raiders 16. Okay. Hmm. Takeaways from this game. Well, how about...

Derek Carr's think? How about that? How about Carr and Cooper? What do you guys think? I mean, Derek Carr looks bad. Yeah, I don't know what's wrong. I'm going to assume that Derek Carr's not healthy yet. Although he was bad before he got hurt.

He was bad. He was great twice, and he was bad twice. Yeah, but the two games before he got hurt, he was bad. That is true. One of them was against Denver. Only Eli Manning does well against Denver, apparently. They have the Chiefs on Thursday. Yeah, Rivers.

They have the Chiefs on Thursday. I'm assuming they're going to be sits. Marshawn Lynch, he 13 carries. Look, he didn't play badly. He just only got to six points. This clinched it for me. They just, and maybe they're waiting until the second half, and they're trying to make sure he gets there,

but they just will not because they had the perfect situation. Two different drives where they were up, and he was sitting right around 10 carries, and he was running well, averaging five yards a carry. They were getting everything they wanted when he was running the ball, and they just went away from him. They don't want to give him—I don't think there is a path to more than 15 carries for Marshawn Lynch right now. Yeah. You know what?

I think Oakland really—they should be kicking themselves for not running the ball more. This is the worst run defense in the NFL, arguably. They should have run the ball more. And they ran effectively. Stupid. He was at 8 for 49 at the half. And he finishes with 13 for 63. Come on.

Pittsburgh 19, Kansas City 13. But if there's anything that is a consistent thing, it's Michael Crabtree scoring against the Chargers. Five games in a row. Wow. He has a touchdown against Chargers. All right. Pittsburgh 19, Kansas City 13. The Steelers had the ball for nearly 37 games in a row. He gets a touchdown against the Chargers. Pittsburgh 19, Kansas City 13.

The Steelers had the ball for nearly 37 minutes in this game. It was a bad day for the Chiefs offensively, although you did get Kareem Hunt with 89 receiving yards, so double-digit fantasy points again. What was your take on the lack of field goal attempt there at 12-3?

It was awful. Terrible. Agreed. Agreed. How much do you guys trust Tyreek Hill? This is now two games out of six with more than six fantasy points in standard scoring leagues. My expectation is Tyreek Hill is not going to play this week. He got hurt? Before the final drive of the game, he got two helmets on his helmet on a punt return.

And if he's not in the concussion protocol, then I don't know how you get in it. They've got a short week. Yeah, he came up the sideline. He spun, and as he spun, he spun into two guys that just cracked him. All right, well, when he's healthy, I mean, is he still a must-start? You always rank him as if he is a must-start Tyree kill. So are you down on him now? I think Heath made a good point on one of our shows last week

that you're kind of ranking him on his big playability, that you don't want to have that out of your lineup on the chance that it happens. But we're starting to get to a point. This was my fear for him coming into the season was that we'd have one big game, two bad games, two big games, four bad games. And that's kind of the way he's looking because of how Alex Smith operates with his receivers. He's just never been a guy that supports a number one receiver at the fantasy level.

Macklin was good. Tyreek Hill last year was good. But they throw to their running backs. They throw to the tight ends, clearly. Nick Costas, our video host, he made a trade because he lost Odell Beckham, so he traded in a standard league. Duke Johnson in a fifth-round pick to get Tyreek Hill. It was one of those things where you're trying to salvage your season by losing somebody like Beckham.

That's not a bad trade. No, not at all. But is he the type of guy that you could just say, I can leave him my lineup at this point, and I don't know if the answer is yes. I'd rather, if I were going to make that trade, I'd rather do it for Amari Cooper. I do have another Twitter poll over this game.

Is Alex Smith droppable? What? No. Well, you know there's an owner in every league that will pick him up because the Rodgers owner will get him. Who's more droppable, Big Ben or Smith? What's that? Who's more droppable, Alex Smith or Ben Roethlisberger?

I'll still say Alex Smith because I'm more worried about Ben after this game than I was after last week. I got another Twitter poll for you. Was Detroit, New Orleans a successful bonanza? And yes, 64%, no, 30%. Hold on, let me influence that for a second. No, no, no, no, no. This is 1,200 votes.

Like, you guys are... I'm about to change that. You could choose, do you want to eat dead fish, stinky socks, lawn clippings, barf, booger? Booger could be nice. Could be good. Maybe you'll get lucky and you'll get juicy pear instead. What's the latest on Zico Elliott, by the way? I may have missed a news flash, Jamie. Booger could be nice. Could be good. Maybe he'll get lucky and he'll get Juicy Pear instead.

What's the latest on Zico Elliott, by the way? I may have missed a news flash, Jamie. Oh, just with the – I mean, I don't know what you and Dave talked about on Saturday, but there's a lot that changed between Saturday and today. Kind of. That there was the report that he will be allowed to play, the suspension's not going to hold, and then the NFL said any report to that is erroneous,

that he will be suspended immediately. So this is still going to be decided in the courts. I still am under the impression that he's going to play Week 7 because I can't imagine that the NFL is going to overrule what the court system says. And I think what Jason LaCroix said this morning was he expects Ezekiel will not be allowed into the team facility this week for practice. Okay. All right, next game, Arizona 38, Tampa Bay 33. Do you think Adrian Peterson makes Carson Palmer better or worse or the same?

Better. Better. I mean, David Johnson certainly made it better do you think john brown is worth all you think he's right at 62 or should he be higher because you know he's getting slightly lucky like with the last two games scoring those touchdowns what do you think john brown i'll go back to what i said a couple weeks ago. I believe if John Brown is 100% and preparing to play in the upcoming week, that he should be nearly 100% owned and start as a number three. I mean, look, he's doing what we thought.

We never thought he was going to be a six-catch, seven-catch guy on a weekly basis. He's a guy that's a boomer bus type of player, and right now he's hot. What happened to Andre Ellington? Adrian Peterson? He got game script a little too. Just being so far ahead? He's

a pass catching back and they didn't have a whole lot of reason. You just throw to the receivers against that secondary and just find the one that's not being covered by Brent Grimes. Yeah, well, they are at the Rams next week. That was really disappointing. No catches for Ellington.

Miami 20, Atlanta 17. Dolphins had the ball for 34 minutes and 24 seconds. Falcons had the ball for 25 minutes and 36 seconds. Let's see. We got Jay Jai. Okay, 26 carries, 130 yards. This is two straight games with 25 or 26 carries, but this time he made them count.

Still has not scored this season. Gets the Jets at home next week. Jamie, your outlook on Jay Ajayi going forward. So I don't think I shared this story on the air, but so Jay came into our building this week to do something for one of our video shows. And I know Jay a little bit from his trainer, Tony Villani. And, you know, we said hello to each other. And then he went over to the video shoot.

And he said to one of our producers after we had made him the start of the week the week before, he's like, I hope Jamie's not mad at me because I let him down. He's like, I don't really know the fantasy stuff because i let him down um he's like i don't really know the fantasy stuff too well but i know that fumble probably hurt and so uh i thought that was kind of cool that he recognized that um the the the thing about i think adam you pointed this out that he's had 20 or more carries in their wins and not a lot of carries in their losses and this one did not set up for him to have a big workload if you just looked at what the scenario was but this is extremely encouraging especially with the fact that pouncey got hurt so you look at the the jets their run

defense i don't think it's very good um leonard williams got hurt in the game i don't know the extent of his injury uh in the loss of the patriots and you know we we said when we looked at this game that you know you go pick up deon lewis well you look at what the the Patriots. And we said when we looked at this game that you go pick up Deion Lewis. Well, you look at what the Patriots, who they're a good running team. They're not a great running team. They were able to get 25 carries for 118 yards and a touchdown out of their group of running backs. So Ajayi should have another monster week next week against Jets at home.

Okay. And who do you like better rest of the season, Jarvis Landry or Devontae Parker? Landry. I think you have to go Landry on the thought of, one, the targets have been there for him consistently, and two, health. I mean, this has been a knock on Parker, you know, motivation and health. You know, he seemed to have the motivation in check, you know, coming into the season, but now he's hurt again, and who knows how long this injury is going to linger.

Adam, can we go back to the Chiefs-Steelers game real quick? Sure. Ian Rappaport just tweeted, Martavis Bryant recently requested a trade. His teammates and coaches are well aware that he's unhappy. What? Pick up Juju.

They're not trading him. Well, no. It's the NFL. Trades almost never happened in the first place but in this situation where he doesn't have a good relationship with ben now he wants to be off the team they're publicly talking about how he might get benched and play juju outside more and juju's been better than him i i just wonder if his role is fierce. That would be very, very dumb on their part because he is their big play receiver. They need to get him right.

They need to get him right. He's a big – he'd be a great player. He needs to get right, and Roethlisberger could use him for sure. All right, New Orleans 52, Detroit 38. Are we done with Amir Abdullah? Like, what is he – what is Amir Abdullah at this point? He had a good run. 34-yard run, he sure did.

He's, I mean, I still think he's in that borderline number two flex conversation more often than he's not. Okay. They just need to, you know, I think throw him the ball a little bit more. His best game so far this year have come when he's been involved in the passing game. He has zero targets in this game. Adrian Peterson or... No, he didn't.

He had two. Or Amir Abdullah. Adrian Peterson or Abdullah. Oh, I was reading the notes. He had two targets? Abdullah had two targets. At least the box where I'm looking at. Yeah, you know, I think you're right. I think what I was reading the notes. He had two targets? Abdullah had two targets. At least the box where I'm looking at. Yeah, I think you're right.

I think what I was looking at. I think I looked at the – I know what happened. He had no catches. I know what happened. But Abdullah or Peterson, rest of season? I mean, I think at this point you have to say Peterson. It would be silly not to. I'm going to say Abdullah.

I hope you're right. How about any concerns about this Michael Thomas terrible game? No, look, Darius Slay is a good quarterback. I think if you were to say that the Saints would score 52 points

and that Drew Brees would throw 31 times, something just doesn't add up. It was very weird fantasy points from the quarterbacks, given 90 total points in the game. Heath, would you rather have Ted Ginn or Willie Sneed rest of season? I will

say Willie Sneed, but I'm not sure at what point I'm going to feel comfortable starting Willie Sneed over Ted Ginn. Next week against the Packers. I don't know why he certainly wasn't better in this game. No, but this was a against the Packers. Yeah, I just don't know why. He certainly wasn't better in this game. No, but this was a shake-the-rust-off game. And slot receivers against the Packers have been awesome for the most part of the season,

including Adam Thielen again today. Well, those guys that were playing the slot have to play outside now because none of their outside guys are healthy. Against the Packers? No, all the Packers' corners are hurt. Oh, well, that's true. So Adam, just to let you know, I made my little comment on Twitter. No.

No, I did. Okay, well it's not working. Well, it will. Like one person said, I take my yes back. I voted before I read my tweet. Offense is bonanza. DSD doesn't count. Dilly dilly.

Dilly dilly. Dilly dilly. What was your stupid tweet? I said vote no because defensive touchdowns should not count toward the bonanza. I don't need the defensive touchdowns to count toward the bonanza. There were like five players who were great in this game. There were five? There was Tate. There was Ingram.

Stafford had 20. I'm taking that. There was Marvin Jones. There was... That's four. Camara. It was fine. You were just telling us how terrible Camara was. He was fine.

He was fine. It's not going to work. We got this one. The fact that Adam Azer has to ask this question should be proof enough. Another one was voted yes by accident makes zero sense in reality. Well, I don't care. I got 60% of the vote, although it used to be 63% before Jamie's stupid tweet. Washington 26, San Francisco 24.

So Carlos Hyde, yeah, like what are your thoughts? 13 carries and Brita only had four. You know? He only had 28 yards, but for Hyde on 13 carries, we scored twice. I mean, was this much to do about nothing? This whole Hyde's going to get traded thing? I don't think it's much to do about nothing because they're still 0-6.

And if they get something of value in return for him, for a guy that they may not want to resign, it makes sense. Like Heath just said, it's not often you see NFL trades in the middle of the season, and you go around the NFL landscape of teams that are competitive that need running backs. I don't know if there is one that would make a deal to go get Carlos Hyde at this point. This is one of those games, like when you talk to the novice fantasy player, like just to give you an example, Pete Prisco, our NFL guy

who's not the most experienced fantasy guy, he hates games like this because he did not run well. He caught a few passes that made him look good, but the touchdown saved him. Hyde was started in 73% of leagues, so Breida is still, I guess, worth stashing. And look, they're getting rid of Navarro Bowman.

They pulled their quarterback very early in this game. So I guess it wouldn't be a total shock if they did something with Carlos Hyde. No, but the nice thing, though, just to follow up on it, is this is now the second time early in the season, as we know, the storyline coming into the year, and this game that he motivated and plays well, or produces well at least. Heath, how much faith do you have in Terrell Pryor rest of season? Faith, very, very little.

He's a number three, a low-end number three at that. Minnesota 23 and Green Bay 10. We've covered a lot of this. Would you consider dropping Randall Cobb for waivers? Yeah, for sure. Would you consider selling high on Adam Thielen? No.

I would. Because when Diggs is healthy, Thielen's not that good. When Diggs was healthy, Thielen had just as many yards as him. If anything, buy low as him. As who? If anything, by low on him because he hasn't scored a touchdown. I mean, week one, they were both good.

That was against the Saints. Since then, Thielen was bad without Sam Bradford in three of four games. So three of five now. Which is basically what we've said about every— With Diggs. But with Diggs, three of four games. So three of five now. Which is basically what we've said about every – With Diggs. But with Diggs, three of four, bad. Okay. Well, Thielen had some very good moments last year, right?

We can agree on that? Oh, yeah. So based on what we've seen so far this year, you're just saying a couple good games, right? Correct? Well, he said three now. Three good games. Okay. So three good games. And you're saying sell high or cut? Well, he said three now. Three good games. Okay, so three good games.

And you're saying sell high or cut? Sell high. Oh, no, don't cut. Sell high. Oh, no, no. Definitely not cut. Okay, next game. New England 24, Jets 17. We talked about the Patriots running backs. I'm sure we're just going to

say bad game for Chris Hogan. No huge deal. And really, like I said on the show on Thursday, New England struggles at the Jets. They win, but it's never pretty. As far as the Jets go, do you think Jermaine Kearse or Robbie Anderson have any long-term potential, or are they just match-ups, guys? Do we know the extent of Anderson's injury? I do not know.

I don't know if he came back in the game. He was banged up toward the end of the game. You know, I have a better question, because whatever. What do you think about Matt Forte? Matt Forte caught eight passes, nine carries for 22 yards, but eight catches for 59 yards. What do you think? How long does Palau Palau? I mean, that's a great question.

And, yes, Heath, you were mentioning the Patriots don't cover pass catching. Running backs, well, that is true. They don't cover anybody. That is also true. You would be wide open running pass routes against the Patriots. But Forte is 46% owned. Is he a better add than Deion Lewis? No.

Yes. Okay, okay. By the way, I have Safarian Jenkins as 75% Owens, so that could still climb. That could still go up. A few more games. Chicago 27, Baltimore 24. Dude, I said Tariq Cohen was going to throw a touchdown in this game. He was the best quarterback in this game.

He sure was. Jamie, any major takeaways from Chicago, Baltimore? I don't think we can trust any of the Bears pass catchers yet. I don't think it's a bad idea to stash Kendall Wright and certainly Zach Miller. But Miller's production the last two weeks is fluky. Jordan Howard really is the only startable Bears player for now. I want to know what they're doing, and I reserve the right to amend these comments on Tuesday after I've seen snap counts. But they're not playing Kendall Wright as much as the other wide receivers. And they're playing Zach Miller not near as much as they should.

They're running Deion Sims out there. I don't know if they're just trying to see how Mitchell Trubisky reacts to the worst possible scenario they could put him in, but play your best players. He threw 16 passes. I will say this. Sims is their best blocking tight end. When they're going to run the ball, he's going to be on the field

a lot. Right, they listed their starting receivers after cutting Deontay Thompson, and they want to keep Wright in the slot. So if they're going to go with these big packages of double tight end sets, he's not going to be on the field. I think that's just part of what they're at. And this was a game where they weren't chasing points. When you're going to see Wright and Miller involved a lot more is when they're chasing points.

Two more games. Cleveland at Houston. In a standard scoring league, who's the best Cleveland running back going forward? Still Duke. Yeah. And what do you think about selling Will Fuller? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Who would you rather have rest of season, Fuller or Thielen? Thielen. Thielen. But, you know, at some point we're going to see Fuller get a bigger target share, and who knows how good that could be. Yeah. Talented player. Fuller or what's his name, that guy, Amari Cooper.

You know what Fuller is? Sorry to cut you off. Fuller is very much like Devonta Adams a year ago. Cooper. Cooper for Heath. Cooper or Fuller, Jamie? I hope ago. Cooper. Cooper for Heath. Cooper for Jamie. I hope it's Cooper. You know, you're hoping at this point.

I mean, again, like Heath said before, Deshaun Watson's amazing. And that's hard to argue with. But look at where Deshaun Watson's season has taken off. All right. It's Will Fuller on the field. Will Fuller or, let's go to our last game, Sammy Watkins. I'll take Fuller here. Yeah.

I mean, as a matter of fact, I did that in two leagues. I cut Sammy Watkins in two 10-team leagues and kept Will Fuller on my roster. I didn't make that exact switch. Oh, no, maybe I did in one of them. But I just think you've got to buy into production. Now, next week could be really good for Sammy Watkins if Patrick Peterson's out with a quad injury. So, Watkins, 94%

owned. I think he's going to get dropped. I'm guessing he'll be in the 80s by Wednesday, but we shall see. And I just want to say, you know, we said so high on Todd Gurley if you can get like a King's ransom, and in the last two games, he didn't do well against Seattle. He had that touchdown that became a fumble.

And this is not a bad game by any means. 23 carries, 116 yards. But at the end of the day, it's only 11 fantasy points. It's good. It's not great. Yeah, but okay, let me ask you this. Which game would you rather have, Todd Gurley or Carlos Hyde? I'm just saying if you did sell high on him, you didn't miss out on elite production yet.

But I understand he played well. He played very well. Unless you sold him for Odell Beckham. Unless you sold him. Or for me, you sold him for Ty Montgomery and Jordy Nelson, and you lost Aaron Rodgers in that same league. Okay, we go home and pack up in the FFT League. Not going to win it this year.

Not going to win it this year. Thank you to Jamie and Heath. We'll be back on up for the FFT League. Not going to win it this year. Not going to win it this year. Thank you to Jamie and Heath. We'll be back on Tuesday with the waiver wire. And Bean Boozled this week. Get ready to eat some boogers, guys. Let's see. What's that? Oh, it's 57-43.

This is ridiculous. No, no. This is ridiculous. This is outrageous. This is a Travis Sham mockery. We are done. And finally, I hope you sold high on CJ Anderson because Jamal Charles is taking the job. Bye. We are done. And finally, I hope you sold high on C.J. Anderson, because Jamal Charles is taking the job. Bye!

Bye.