Fantasy Football Today - 10/16: Re-Drafting the First Two Rounds! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

Have you seen Patrick Mahomes' upcoming schedule? It could be kinda rough, but does that matter (2:48)? And it's Wednesday so of course we tell you who to Buy Low (7:14) and who to Sell High (17:30). ...We still have faith in Aaron Jones and Le'Veon Bell. What about Devonta Freeman? ... Big news (22:00) including Ryan Tannehill's opportunity and the Jalen Ramsey trade. Then we're re-drafting Rounds 1 and 2 (25:35)! Is Alvin Kamara still a Top 5 player? Is Chris Carson a first round pick? Why is Adam taking a QB in Round 2, and which one is he taking??? ... Previewing KC-DEN (44:00), reading your Apple Podcasts questions (54:50) and your Fill in the Blank (57:05) .. Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to the Wednesday show, everybody. So if you were drafting again today, let's say you were drafting today for the rest of the season, two rounds. How many quarterbacks would go in the first two rounds? For me, it's more than zero. For the other guys, it's probably zero or somehow less than zero. Welcome to Fantasy Football today. I'm Adam Azer.
Starting point is 00:01:44 We're also going to be previewing a pretty big game on Thursday night, the Broncos and the Chiefs. And we say hello to our contestants today. Let's bring in the Kansas City boy. Heath Cummings is here. A little Kansas music for you, Heath. Big win for my Washington Nationals last night. Very happy that they are going to the World Series.
Starting point is 00:02:05 So I'm just curious, and we'll get into this more later, but Patrick Mahomes has, by some accounts, been a little bit of a letdown this year, not a top three quarterback. Is there a different quarterback that you would take in the first two rounds? Are you taking, like, four quarterbacks in the first two rounds now? I'm taking two quarterbacks in the first two rounds? I'm taking two quarterbacks in the first two rounds. Wow!
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, yeah. I thought we were doing a one-quarterback league redraft of the first two rounds. I did not know we were doing a super flex league. Super flex will be more fun. They're not both from the same team. They just happen to go with this in the first round. I can hear Ben Gretsch. Let's get Ben's intro music up.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Ben, welcome to the show. You don't like two quarterbacks in the first two rounds. Yeah, I'm baffled. With Heath, what has changed since the preseason? The only thing that has changed is we have a lot of busts at the top of running back and wide receiver, which make things are good, more valuable. So I'm highly confused about this take. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Well, by the way, this was the theme song to Gentle Ben, which was a TV show about a bear. So getting a little creative today with the theme music. There was books. Yeah. There was books. I read those books as a kid. Yeah, yeah. Me too.
Starting point is 00:03:21 But yeah, no, there have been some busts at running back and wide receiver and and some guys that I quite frankly didn't think I could justify using a second-round pick-on, but they're only two quarterbacks, okay? So one of them is Mahomes. Find out who the other one is. Two more than should be in the top 24 players in value the rest of the season. I don't know. If you have these guys on your team, I'm actually not really with Mahomes. I almost put Matt Ryan in there too too. Six points per passing touchdown leagues.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Maybe I will. Maybe I'll change my mind by the time we get to this segment. I wanted to give you a stat. Speaking of Mahomes, did you know that he has only two games remaining against teams that currently rank outside the top 10 in fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks. That'd be Minnesota and Oakland. So Minnesota's one of them. But his schedule, Denver's third against quarterbacks, Green Bay's seventh, Minnesota's 15th, Tennessee is eighth. The Chargers are ninth.
Starting point is 00:04:18 The Patriots are first. The Broncos, again, the Bears in week 16, the Chargers in week 17. Heath, what do you think about that schedule for Mahomes? Does that matter to you at all? It brings up multiple interesting questions. One, how much does schedule actually matter for elite players? Two, is fantasy points per game the most predictive way of who will be good
Starting point is 00:04:44 against positions or types of players moving forward? And three, are defenses that are good the first six weeks the defenses that will be good the last 10 weeks? For the most part, my answer is no, I don't care that much. Yeah, and I don't either since I have him as a second round pick. All right, well, I just him as a second round pick. All right. Well, I just thought it was kind of interesting. Last year, Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:05:08 did face a bunch of teams that were in the top 10 in fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks and he actually didn't do quite as well as you might think. I could tell you
Starting point is 00:05:17 in just a moment how he did in those games. I mean, he was fine. He had a little bit of a down game against Jacksonville last year. I'll tell you. I'll tell you who it was. fine he had a little bit of a down game against Jacksonville last year but I'll tell you so he had
Starting point is 00:05:28 he did he had 7 matchups against top 10 opponents last year teams that finished the season giving up you know the 10th or fewest 10th or fewer amount of points to fantasy to quarterbacks he scored 21 or more fantasy points in 6 of 7 games that's a good floor but he scored more or more fantasy points in six of seven games that's a good floor but he scored
Starting point is 00:05:46 more than 25 fantasy points and six point for passion touchdown leagues only twice and one of them was week one so he was typically between 21 and 25 fantasy points which is not what you drafted mahomes for so just just tossing that out there i mean there's also a little bit of double counting there where guys teams that finish in the top like any team that my home skewered didn't end up finishing in the top 10, probably because he had so many monster games that really threw a lot of those defensive stats out of whack. You'd have to pull out my home stats to really break that stat down. I think, I think it's mostly noise. Uh, and I agree with Heath about the rest of the season schedule. There's some players that you should be concerned about with schedule and matchup a guy like patrick mahomes and an offense like the chiefs you you just call the matchup proof i mean
Starting point is 00:06:29 maybe he won't be as efficient but he'll get plenty of volume plenty of opportunities to throw it around and they'll be fine i mean they'll put up points okay so uh we'll talk about mahomes and his matchup against the broncos in just a little bit. Some new fantasy vocab. So, Ben, we know what the red zone is. The red zone is once you get to the 20-yard line. You call the 10-yard line the green zone, right? Yeah, just a quicker way of saying inside the 10, which... I agree. The touches from the 11 to the 20 are not actually that valuable.
Starting point is 00:07:04 They're a lot different than touches from the 1 to the 10, or even the 1 to the 20 are not actually that valuable valuable are a lot different than touches from the one to the 10 or even the one to the five um so we talk about red zone touches especially rush attempts about red zone rush attempts and those stats can get skewed a little bit as well when we're talking about the carries that are at the 15 yard line compared to the ones that are at the five yard line that's a huge difference so i i like to focus on the green zone. It's a pretty big difference to just focus in on the single digit yard lines. Yeah. I would like to propose that carries inside the five
Starting point is 00:07:33 now be called the gold zone. No. Oh, God. The magenta zone. The magenta zone. Anything outside of the 20 be referred to as the gray zone? You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:43 The gold zone is better, but I was going to propose the magenta zone for... No, it's the gold zone. The gold zone, the green zone, the red zone. Fine. The red zone should be outside the 20 because those aren't that great. Magenta is just like a very nice color.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I just thought it would be a nice thing to say. Fine. The gold zone wins. Let's do buy low. Why not the lavender zone? Oh, that's terrible. What are you talking about, Gentle Ben? All right. Buy low, sell high.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I mean, green is like money. Gold is like first place. And you're over here saying magenta. I'm just not following the magenta. Yeah, I guess that's sort of the point. Who are we buying low on, Ben? What do you think? Oh, who was on my buy low?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Le'Veon Bell. Le'Veon Bell.vi on bell levi on bell it was a jamie move yeah oh levi on bell absolutely only had one catch last week uh but sam donald's back scored his first touchdown since week one uh got both of the green zone touches he's the first uh sorry he's the no jets running back has had a green zone touch since Sam Darnold played in week one. Their offense has been horrible and offensive production leads to those high value running back touches. You got to get the ball down in there. Right. So Le'Veon Bell got a short touchdown run this week. He got all their green zone touches this week.
Starting point is 00:08:58 He had all their green zone touches back in week one or no. Pat Montgomery did have a green zone touch this week, but Bell's playing a a massive snap chair has four of the five green zone touches on the year tons of receiving work only had one reception last week he did have nine back in week one when donald started last time donald's gonna improve the offense as a whole bell's gonna have a massive receiving role he's going to get those scoring opportunities now he's been inefficient from a yard's perspective as well but having a good quarterback in there will help him there i think he's a top five running back the rest of the way. And I don't necessarily think you have to pay that right now. My only question with that argument, I don't necessarily, like I, I definitely think Le'Veon Bell is a good by low. So I'm not disagreeing with Ben,
Starting point is 00:09:35 but we talked about this on FFT yesterday and I just don't know Sam Darnold better than Luke Falk. Absolutely. No question. I don't know that Sam Darnold is good. We just, like, this was a good performance against the Dallas Cowboys. Outstanding performance, in fact. But it was one of, what, 16 games, 17 games that we've seen him play now. And about four of those games he has looked like a really good quarterback. Why? You judge people so harshly on their rookie seasons.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I mean, haven't we learned anything about rookie seasons? They mean almost nothing. I mean, Jared Goff. Okay, so one of two games this year he has looked like a good quarterback? Yeah, he played arguably the toughest defense in football in week one, one of the five toughest defenses in week one. He was already dealing with the effects of mono. Does it matter?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Does he have to be that good? Luke Falk was a joke. Right, that's what I was going to say. Luke Falk was terrible. It doesn't matter. Le'Veon Bell is playing almost 100% of the snaps. He's running a ton of routes and seeing a ton of targets, and he's going to get all of their green zone work as their primary running back.
Starting point is 00:10:35 It doesn't matter. Donald doesn't have to be good. Wait, wait. Okay, it doesn't matter for Le'Veon Bell being a number one running back. No, I agree with that. It matters for him being a top five running back. Yeah, that's going to be a tough group to crack when you talk about top five running backs.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I mean, as we'll see when we reveal our top 24. I think you guys are more or less on the same page. Ben's a little bit higher. And the gold zone touches should go to Le'Veon Bell as well. The magenta zone touches. Let's stay with Ben and his buy lows because you still want to buy low on the broncos running backs and i still want to know what like they need to get one of them
Starting point is 00:11:12 needs if i agree if one of them gets hurt you're talking about a total stud well that's that's why i mean so they're averaging 4.7 and 4.3 high value touches per week joe flacco would actually be the the player that i would point to to say that Sam Darnold doesn't need to be that valuable. Because if Le'Veon Bell was in the Broncos offense right now and getting all the work, which these guys are not getting all the work, but he would be a top five running back right now. The offense is good enough with the Broncos that they're getting in into scoring position. They're getting green zone touches every week. Philip Lidsey has been getting a lot of those and scoring a lot of touchdowns. Royce Freeman's running more routes and catching more passes.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So Lindsey is actually the more valuable right now. I probably would be buying low on Freeman. The point is, if either of them does miss time, their combined workload right now is equivalent of Christian McCaffrey in terms of high-value touches per game. Joe Fleco, I think he threw eight targets to the position last week. He's throwing to the running backs an insane amount. If either of these guys starts to play like a 75% or 80% snap share in this offense, it's going to be phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Okay, but I just don't agree with the philosophy. Only if you have a roster spot to play with, then you get Royce Freeman, who has been okay in non-ppr start them both this week well yeah but i'm just saying like you got a guy that's if you if you trade for royce freeman and philip lindsey doesn't get hurt you're not like that's a waste of a player pretty much i mean he is no not if yes what if you trade for him as a bench player you're getting a starting flex yeah i guess and also that is really lowering the bar for your flex though like he he is okay there are so many wide receivers you're gonna want to
Starting point is 00:12:51 start with 10 10 ppr fantasy points a week that's basically an almost number two running back that's not you know what i actually broke that down i'll tell you what and it almost is i read your breakdown before i said it oh good can i do can I just do a little bit of a rant real quick? Not really. And how yes, running backs on your bench. You want to be targeting upside. You want to like, we don't know what's going to happen to running back, but we do know there's a lot of turnover all the time.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Look at like, we just had John Hilleman as a starting running back last week. What like, we don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. Maybe these guys might not get hurt, but instead of like throwing our hands up about who might get injured and what percentage chance a guy will get into a high like a feature role
Starting point is 00:13:31 as long as there's a reasonable opportunity for that to happen and there is in denver if all it takes is one of these two missing a game i i wouldn't put the odds that both of them playing 16 games is better than 50 50 it's running back just don't stay healthy as long as there's a reasonable chance what you really should be looking at for those bench stashes, and this is the reason that you can grab 40-minute, he might end up being a wasted roster spot, but it's upside. What is the
Starting point is 00:13:53 potential payoff? It's like taking a 25-1 futures bet over a 5-1 favorite when you think they have a reasonable side. We want the one that can really hit for a big payoff, but we know that they're low risk. I got you. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So to be a top 24, let's go over some numbers here. The average so far through six weeks, and this is not decimal scoring, by the way, to be a top 12 running back in non-PPR, you're looking at 14 fantasy points. That's what the number 12 running back in non-PPR, you were looking at 14 fantasy points. That's what the number 12
Starting point is 00:14:28 running back has averaged in PPR in six weeks, 14 fantasy points, non-PPR, non-PPR. Number 24 running back has averaged 8.8 points per game in non-PPR. In PPR, it basically just adds 2.5. You go from 14 points as top 12 to 16.5, and you go from 8.8 to 11.3. So I thought that was actually pretty interesting. 2.5 catches per game is what we're adding. But that's what you're looking at. Is my running back averaging basically what a top 12 running back is averaging? Is he giving you 14 points in non-PPR and 16.5 in full PPR? And then is he a number two running back? Is he a top 24 running back? That's 8.8 points per game in non-PPR and 11.3 in PPR.
Starting point is 00:15:15 All right, Heath, we've waited long enough. Let's hear your bylaws. A couple of NFC North, actually Monday Night Football players, TJ Hawkinson and Aaron Jones, and I don't like, it's disappointing that Aaron Jones four touchdown game did not earn him a feature role in Green Bay. He also doesn't look like he deserves a feature role because Jamal Williams
Starting point is 00:15:34 is playing really well, but at least for the short term, I expect this to be a situation where, again, you can start both Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams. They don't have enough wide receivers to throw it to. They had 33 combined touches in their most recent game against the Lions. They get the Raiders this week. And I still think that Aaron Jones is more talented than Jamal Williams. So if we're going to start every game with this, they're going 50-50 until someone gets hot. I expect Jones to
Starting point is 00:15:59 get hot more often than Williams. I still think he's going to be a high-end number two running back for the rest of the year. And after people just saw Williams get more touches in that game and outperform him, I think it's possible you could buy him for less than that. And then Hawkinson, I love the opportunity he's getting. It's disappointing that he didn't score. It's disappointing that he has so many almost touchdowns. But six targets again in that game. Basically what we've seen is when the Lions have to throw, Hawkinson's going to be involved. When they throw in the green zone, red zone, gold zone,
Starting point is 00:16:30 he's going to be very involved. And I want that on my team moving forward. All right, so we have to do a better job. We've gotten some listener feedback. We have to do a better job when we say, you know, buy low on this guy. What would we give up? So what would you give up for Aaron Jones? Would you give up Phillip aaron jones would you give up philip lindsey
Starting point is 00:16:45 for aaron jones um that's so weird like i don't that's the other thing i don't people are traded people aren't trading the exact same type of running back for that's i understand we've received that feedback it's not helpful because people don't have Would you trade Terry McLaurin for him? Yes. Okay. Would you trade Cortland Sutton for Aaron Jones? Yes. Alright. Good. Let's see. That's what I needed to know.
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Starting point is 00:18:21 with David Sampson. All right, I apologize. I'm going to have to hurry you up here so we can get to our draft and preview our game and read some Apple podcast questions and some fill in the blank. But Ben, who are you selling high on right now? I threw Austin Hooper in there. I don't know if we talked about him in recent weeks,
Starting point is 00:18:40 but he's been on a great run. Obviously just had a really good matchup with Arizona. Essentially, I just think he's going to be like a tight end six to tight end eight type guy the rest of the season. I don't think he's suddenly an elite tier tight end. And he is the tight end one right now. So if you can get really good value out of him, I'd probably sell him. I mean, the other one is probably kind of a similar situation. I would be fine selling on Chris Godwin if you have receiver depth.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I know everyone thinks he is a complete world beater. He had over 100 yards in just the fourth quarter last week at like a 9.2, I think it was, ADOT, while Jameis Winston broke or set the highest amount of air yards mark in a single game by any quarterback this season, meaning he was chucking the ball down the field a ton while they were chasing, while they were coming back. Most of those were to Evans. And then he was throwing underneath with this 9.2 ADOT to Chris Godwin. I mean, it tells this perfect story that it was all garbage time and he was throwing underneath. Godwin probably will have more opportunities to rack up stats like that. He's done it a couple of different times this year. I just think he's like,
Starting point is 00:19:44 he almost had a bad game this week and he is probably going to have some going forward and people think he's just an absolutely elite receiver. I don't necessarily buy that yet. Okay, so who would you get for God? Like who would you try? Le'Veon Bell is one that I think is really interesting. I think you could trade,
Starting point is 00:19:59 probably try to trade Chris Godwin for Le'Veon Bell and I would do that. By the way, I just realized that I left Le'Veon Bell out of my top 24 and that's going to have to change. We're going to throw him in there somewhere. All right, Heath,
Starting point is 00:20:10 who are you selling high on? I will sell high on Devante Freeman still. He took advantage of a great matchup, but I don't believe in this run offense. I don't believe in the offensive line. I don't believe in the Falcons defense and the matchups get more difficult for Freeman moving forward. He's looked the last couple of weeks like he might be a borderline number one running back.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I still think he's a low-end number two, and I would still sell high on the Minnesota Vikings wide receivers. Both Adam Thielen and Stephon Diggs have half of their games with seven or more targets, half of their games with six or fewer targets. In fact, Diggs is four or fewer. I think they're going to be up and down and up and down, and I would like to get rid of them when they're up. half of their games with six or fewer targets. In fact, Diggs is four or fewer. I think they're going to be up and down and up and down, and I would like to get rid of them when they're up.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Okay, and I still think I'd like to see what I can get for Kenny Galladay. He's having a great year. If you look at the game he just had against the Packers, five catches, 121 yards. He had a 66-yard catch on a flea flicker, and then Kevin King really covered him very well for the rest of the game. And why am I selling on Gallaudet? Because he's going to see Minnesota twice.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He's going to see the Bears twice. He's going to see Dallas once. And week 16, he's at Denver. And they have just been unbelievable against some of the best wide receivers in football. So I like Kenny Gallaudet, but I don't love Kenny Galladay, and I would try to get Hopkins, Beckham, Julio, try to buy low on those struggling wide receivers. On a struggling running back, I would certainly offer Galladay for Le'Veon Bell.
Starting point is 00:21:36 That kind of stuff. Again, this is not Kenny Galladay stinks because he does have some really good matchups coming up. This is, I think, there are some really good cornerbacks he's going to face. I've got to be honest with you. Minnesota needs to start shutting down wide receivers. I think, there's some really good cornerbacks he's going to face. I'll be honest with you. Minnesota needs to start shutting down wide receivers. I think it's going to happen beginning this week,
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Starting point is 00:23:12 Did that motivate you, Heath, to add any Titans wide receiver? It made me want to give up on the Titans wide receivers. This is a terrible decision. Okay. Ron Rivera did not confirm that Cam Newton's going to practice next week. They have a bye this week. We'll have to see
Starting point is 00:23:28 what happens there. Alvin Kamara is dealing with some sort of high ankle issue. Latavius Murray, I gotta look up his updated ownership percentage. I had him at 57%, but I think that was yesterday. I bet he's about 75%. He is 60%.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Go get Latavius Murray. So, Ben, Latavius Murray and Daryl Henderson, because Malcolm Brown is also dealing with an injury. Do you think these guys are must-owns right now, Latavius Murray and Daryl Henderson? Sure, yeah. I think they're both great examples of a high upside that we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Good offenses that will create targets for the running backs and high-value touches for the running backs, especially when the Saints get Drew Brees back. So, yeah, I mean, again, that's the upside. If these guys get the opportunity to actually play significant snaps, in Henderson's case, Murray's already kind of at least playing some. But Henderson, I'm really hoping hoping will actually get a shot to play some significant snaps the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:24:28 He looked really good on Sunday. Look, he might be the guy for the Rams this week, and they're facing Atlanta on the road, and they have Cincinnati. If you aren't as excited about Latavius Murray, I get that. He's at the Bears this week, but they just lost their best defensive tackle, Akeem Hicks, for the season. And Josh Jacobs had a pretty good game against the Bears two weeks ago without Akeem Hicks, for the season. And Josh Jacobs had a pretty good game against the Bears two weeks
Starting point is 00:24:47 ago without Akeem Hicks when Hicks got hurt. Other news, Chris Thompson is turf toe. We've seen what that's done to Devontae Adams. Denver's optimistic about Emmanuel Sanders this week, and same with Sammy Watkins for Kansas City. They both have a chance to play. Nikhil Harry practiced. He can return in Week 9, Patriots rookie,
Starting point is 00:25:03 first-round pick, wide receiver. Saints cornerback P.J. Williams is suspended two games. He's their slot corner. Their next two games are the Bears on the road and the Cardinals at home. Baltimore acquired Marcus Peters from the Rams, and the Rams acquired Jalen Ramsey. Heath, what is the fantasy impact of the Rams basically not having any draft capital for the
Starting point is 00:25:25 next decade and getting Jalen Ramsey and the Ravens getting Marcus Peters at that the Rams defense remains more interesting for fantasy purposes it'll be interesting to see if Ramsey plays this week and if they use him the way he wants to be used they've not really played the type of defense that Jalen Ramsey wants to be a part of so far this year but i would assume because they traded for him they're going to put him in man coverage and have him trail someone that might be julio this week that might be really good news for calvin ridley and muhammad sanu because the rest of their corners are bad they basically traded in a sense a keep to leave and Marcus Peters for Jalen Ramsey. So I, it's hard to know how much better if they got better at all,
Starting point is 00:26:07 because the leaves on Iowa Jalen, I think if they're playing man coverage, like one of the things Ramsey has been outwardly outspoken about really disliking playing zone coverage. And that's a lot of what they've played so far this year. If they're going back to bump and run, man, Jalen Ramsey is worlds
Starting point is 00:26:26 better in that defense than Tlaib or Peters in the defense they were playing. I understand, but they've lost two cornerbacks. That's why I'm saying it's very good for Sanu and Ridley. Alright, I'm ready to draft. Let's do it. Let's redraft the first
Starting point is 00:26:42 two rounds. I gave you half PPR, six points for passing touchdown leagues. I thought this was difficult after the first four picks, to be quite honest with you, because I struggle a little bit with Kamara just because of the ankle injury. So who wants the first pick? I'll take the first pick since it's the easiest one.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Christian McCaffrey. Okay. I already took it. It's already done. Dalvin Cook. Okay, okay. That's what I had too. So McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook. We're sure about Dalvin Cook number two overall? That's what I
Starting point is 00:27:14 had as well. Yeah, that's where I'm going. Okay. I'm going Ezekiel Elliott third. He has five touchdowns in six games. He scored six rushing touchdowns last year. He has five or more catches in two of his last three games, so I'm happy about that, but he's just so safe.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So McCaffrey, Cook, Zeke is off the board. Ben, you have the fourth pick. I'm going to take Saquon Barkley, who I'm assuming will be playing in the next week or two. Yeah, that's what I had too. And his fantasy playoffs, weeks 14, 15, 16,
Starting point is 00:27:44 at Philadelphia, that stinks stinks he's matchup proof but miami in week 15 at washington in week 16 for barkley heath four running backs are off the board who's the fifth pick in the draft this is really tough but i am a little bit concerned about the high this is like where it gets difficult um there is a different running back besides levy on bell who i think will be a top five running back the rest of the season and has been a little bit unlucky because he's only scored one touchdown he has i believe he's second in touches behind only christian mcafree and his name is leonard fournette ah okay i had him 11th but i think pretty interchangeable here.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Ben, who would have been fifth for you? Probably Bell. Okay. Bell or Kamara. I mean, Kamara's hard not knowing his injury stats. It is tough here. I mean, Chubb isn't in play, but I wouldn't take him there because of Kareem Hunt. And I think David Johnson is the other name. Fournette's a reasonable pick too. I think Chris Carson is definitely in play here as well. He's been involved in the passing game and 20 carries.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I mean, he and Fournette are both getting like 20 carries, I think three weeks in a row. All right, so who was the pick? Leonard Fournette was the pick. He's the fifth pick. Sixth pick, I will take... I can't believe he's my number one wide receiver, but I will take Michael Thomas,
Starting point is 00:29:09 just getting all the targets for that team. He doesn't have to deal with... I hate it. If Devontae Adams were healthy, I would have taken him, but... He'd be my number one wide receiver for sure. There was a group of wide receivers that we viewed pretty similarly, especially in PPR, and he's really the only one who has done what we expected. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And I think you could say Tyreek Hill has, but it's only been one game. Sure. But, yeah, I had to go with Michael Thomas, but maybe I should try. And Julio Jones hasn't been bad. No. No. No. But he's... I actually am a little bit more concerned about Julio Jones than his overall stats would suggest that you would be
Starting point is 00:29:53 just because they have spread the ball around so much more and it's now six weeks into the season. He's got a 20% target share. Yeah, but they are throwing it on you. I'll say that I probably... Can I take the pick back and take a running back instead? All right, fine. Michael Thomas is off the board. Ben, you have the seventh pick.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I mean, it's funny because I said Le'Veon Bell is going to be a top five running back the rest of the season. I think I would actually take Alvin Kamara here over Bell. I still think Bell could be a top five running back the rest of the season. I'm kind of factoring in that there's probably going to be some injuries. I mean, not all of these guys are going to play all the games. Okay, so we go McCaffrey, Cook, Zeke, Barkley, Fournette, Michael Thomas, Kamara, and Heath, you're up. Yeah, it's a three-headed monster here for me.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Choosing between Chubb, Le'Veon, and David Johnson. It's half Ppr yeah i i think kareem hunt and just the uncertainty around that knocks chubb out of it for me still i'll go with david johnson okay so then i am i think i'm gonna take i'm gonna take nick chubb here. Nick Chubb is the pick at nine overall. McCaffrey, Cook, Zee. I'll recap the first round. Okay, so Chubb is off the board. You took David Johnson.
Starting point is 00:31:10 He's off the board. Le'Veon Bell is the 10th pick. He's off the board. Heath, you're up. This is the point. I took Julio Jones in a lot of drafts over the summer, and it's not felt great so far, but I'm going right back to it.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I will take Julio Jones. Okay, and we will finish the first round with my pick of Chris Carson. Did you guys, do you think Chris Carson's the top 12 pick? I mean, I think he's right up there with Chubb and Johnson and Bell and all these, like he's getting a ton of work and
Starting point is 00:31:43 scoring touchdowns and whatnot. He's the last running back I would take in the top two rounds, I'll say. I think running back is really interesting at this point in the season because there's guys that are clear hits that are worth trading for and paying big value for. They're really good. They have really strong workloads. And then there's a lot of guys that are just like,
Starting point is 00:32:02 I don't know if that guy's ever really gonna have a big ceiling so uh you know it's funny i got asked who by by uh my brother who i would trade stefan digs high for if i could try and sell him high for a running back and i was like well there's a lot of running backs that i don't know i would sell down to stefan digs and then there's probably a lot that you can't get with Stefan Diggs because there's this gap between the elites and the next tier. I've got to say this, though. I'm just seeing it now. The one thing I didn't do in this exercise
Starting point is 00:32:32 is analyze schedules. Here's what Chris Carson has coming up. Baltimore, we know how great their run defense is when they've got Brandon Williams. At Atlanta, should be good. And then how about this? Tampa Bay, at San Francisco, a buy at Philadelphia and Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:32:49 So that is five weeks in a row with a top six defense against fantasy running backs or a buy for Chris Carson. And while I do still really like him and if he gets 20 carries a game, it probably won't matter. You might have to downgrade him a little bit with that schedule, but I already took them. So we'll leave them there at 12. First round was McCaffrey, Cook, Zeke, Barkley, Fournette, Michael Thomas, Alvin Kamara, David Johnson, Nick Chubb, Le'Veon Bell, Julio Jones, Chris Carson, and Ben, you can kick off round two.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And actually, I lied because there is one running back, maybe two, actually, that I missed here, but I still think there's a pretty big gap. I would also put Kerryon Johnson in this Chris Carson group, so he would be my pick here. I was really hoping Ben was going to take DeAndre Hopkins
Starting point is 00:33:41 because I would like to take a wide receiver, and I don't want to take DeAndre Hopkins and I don't want to say that I would take another wide receiver over DeAndre Hopkins. And so I'm going to take Travis Kelsey. Okay. You know, you took Kerryon Johnson over James Conner, Marlon Mack, Melvin Gordon.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Conner's the other running back i was saying that i think is is still in this range i don't i don't like the other guys i'm gonna take i'm gonna i'm gonna piss you guys off and take my second ranked wide receiver rest of season i know you're gonna disagree with it i'm gonna take chris godwin i'm buying it i'm in on on Chris Godwin. The thing that I was struggling with was Godwin, Cooper Cup, and DeAndre Hopkins. And I actually think I prefer Cup to Godwin. You guys are really talking about Cup and Godwin over Tyreek Hill? That's who it should have been. I had Godwin second.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Then I had Julio Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup. Those are the rest of my receivers. My pick now after you just took Godwin, right? I'm taking Tyreek Hill. That's my pick. Tyreek Hill. So Heath, if you could do it again, would you take Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelsey? I would still take Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:35:00 I think the fact that he hasn't scored enough touchdowns yet is driving people crazy. But he is on pace for another elite season, and tight end is even worse than we were afraid it was going to be. He is absolutely worth an early second-round pick. All right, we're up to pick 17. So that's you, Heath. Who do you got? Hopkins is still on the board.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I'm going to take James Conner. James Conner. All right. Hopkins is about to be off the board. I'm going to take DeAndre Hopkins. I think he's ready to bounce back. 18th overall. Wow, he has fallen like a full round.
Starting point is 00:35:34 19th overall, Chris. Chris, wow. Ben, sorry. Go ahead. I just want to say Hopkins is still very valuable, and I agree with you, Adam, that he fell. But I think a lot of what we're doing here is positional value, too. And we just talked about this.
Starting point is 00:35:49 There's not a lot of running backs you can trust. There are a lot of other receivers that you can get. So it's a little different doing this in season now that we know all the workloads and everything. Receivers should be falling a little bit. There's no real like zero RB strategy when you actually know the running backs that have the massive value. I'm going to go. We didn't take Julio Jones yet, did we? Yes, I did.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Okay. He was 11th. I'm going to take. Beckham is still there. Beckham's still there. And then you guys were talking about Cooper Cup. I don't think I would take. I'm going to take Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Oh. Who I think, he's actually leading the NFL in air yards and air yards per game. They're chucking the ball around. He hasn't been super efficient. Everyone thinks Chris Godwin's better than him now. The volume is massive. I still think he's going to be very good. He, how do you, I think this is is a good question because how do you factor in
Starting point is 00:36:45 because efficiency does matter to some level and for most of his career not last year but for most of his career i think mike evans is what you would call an inefficient wide receiver he doesn't catch a very high percentage of his passes and he doesn't generally contribute hardly anything after the catch so his air yards are less valuable than an average receiver's air yards right they are but he's led the league he's leading the league now and he's been at the top of the league for like five straight years so yes he's been inefficient but he also has this really long track record of massive uh downfield volume and if you actually like go back and look at some of the examples last week against the panthers he dropped that pass right before the half that was like a 40 50 yard completion
Starting point is 00:37:29 might have been a 70 yard touchdown go back to i think it was week two he dropped the pass in the end zone where he was kind of diving right he does that he's going to do that but those opportunities are there and he's still been what is he like wide receiver six like he's still been very good i don't think so with those missed opportunities i think he's wide receiver six? Like he's still been very good with those missed opportunities. I think he's wide receiver. I think he's exactly where we drafted. I think he's wide receiver eight. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I can't. Right. So the inefficiency doesn't bug me. And I'm also factoring in that he was he was sick for week one. And then they played on a short week, week two. And he still wasn't probably right. He had two bad games to start the season. I think his upside is still very, very high.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I don't like watching those plays for my fantasy points, but I still think the points are there. No, I just think he is a very good example. Like there's this struggle between opportunity and air yards, and it matters so much more than what was accounted for two or three or especially five years ago. But it also – like there is still the efficiency part of it and that for a guy like evans who we've seen it for like five out of six years now i just feel like you have to factor that in as well and i think it's it's interesting i'll take cooper cup i totally agree with that you have to factor it in but also in those five out of six years he's been been very good at fantasy, right? Yeah. I'll take Cooper Cup. If you look, just take what he's done since the start of last year, and it's a 97-12-43-11 pace.
Starting point is 00:38:57 That includes one game where he got one target and left the game. That includes another game where he left at halftime because he was injured he has been awesome and their number one wide receiver since the start of last year um i don't know if you know this but he roomed with jared goff they've got a really good connection and i just i'm buying in yeah and you know i i had him 15th overall so he took him 20th cooper cup and you know cooper cup's been somebody that I've been targeting on FanDuel because I think he is not priced as an elite receiver, but with Jared Goff, he is basically an elite receiver. He's very close to it, and he just ended a streak of four straight 100-yard games.
Starting point is 00:39:38 But back on to FanDuel. We'll see. Maybe we'll get him back in the lineup because they have a great matchup this week. Heath mentioned it on Sunday. Maybe Jared Goff is a little under-owned in FanDuel leagues, and we'll try to play off that and use him as a contrarian play. But you should be on FanDuel right now. You should be signing up and getting $20 in total bonus
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Starting point is 00:40:39 of this draft after Cooper Cup, Lamar Jackson is my pick. Lamar Jackson is my pick. Lamar Jackson, ladies and gentlemen. Over Mahomes? Wow. Yeah, over Mahomes. I thought you said this was six points for fast touchdown. I did. Yeah, Lamar Jackson over
Starting point is 00:40:55 Mahomes. And over Russell Wilson, who's the number one quarterback in that format anyway. We get a lot of flack in the preseason for our drafts not being representative of what real fantasy drafts are like because we don't have anybody in our league that reaches on quarterback and makes silly decisions like this. And so I think it's good of you, Adam. I think you should just be that guy from now on that takes a quarterback in the first two rounds
Starting point is 00:41:19 to make our drafts more representative of real drafts. There's only one player left that was viewed, I think, as a total stud. Well, James Conner's off the board, right? Did you just not even respond to that? I kind of wanted a response. He just said he's happy that you're the village idiot. That's fine. What I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:41:37 there's only one player on the board that was looked at as a total stud that I can think of, and that was Mahomes and Beckham. Beckham is the guy I could think of. And that was, well, Mahomes and Beckham. Beckham is the guy I was thinking of. And I'm fine taking Jackson over Beckham. Melvin Gordon, I don't think you can justify it right now with the way he's played.
Starting point is 00:41:52 So I don't think there's an obvious guy to take over Lamar Jackson. And that's why I took Lamar Jackson. Look, I don't disagree that there's not a lot of other options, but you still should be going to that next tier, in my opinion, to that next tier of other positions. Ke that next tier other positions keenan allen i think is right there i'm gonna take a guy uh george kittle that i think is uh essentially a late second early third round value it's a it's a little bit of a reach already had his buy so he's that's a big reason that i like uh trying to trade for him right now he's already had his buy he's had
Starting point is 00:42:22 two touchdowns called back and And he's been very consistent, clearly been their number one passing option. I think he's going to be a top three tight end the rest of the way and definitely worth close to where he was drafted
Starting point is 00:42:33 in preseason still. Actually, it's a good pick. I mean, he is their number one receiver for sure. I just think tight ends a little deeper than we thought, although the Disley injury changes that a bit.
Starting point is 00:42:41 OK, two more picks. Heath, who's 23rd? I feel I've got one pick left, and I feel like there's one guy that we're going to be getting emails and saying, I can't believe you forgot to draft this guy, and I've just been searching through the injured list
Starting point is 00:42:53 trying to figure out who it is. I've failed in that mission, so I'm going to settle for a second-tier, third-tier wide receiver that I'm just hoping bounces back um maybe they'll trade free line manning so he can have a quarterback odell beckham odell beckham it is remember the whole thing of man how much better is odell beckham going to be now that he has a good quarterback yeah uh and i'm gonna take uh patrick mahomes 24th you know
Starting point is 00:43:22 uh that's my second quarterback and guys who just missed the cut i'm sure you know adam i think keenan allen keenan allen adam theolin julian edelman should have gone you know it was a second round pick and was an absolute stud in the first few weeks of the year and then he had a couple down games and we're not draft we're drafting him later than where he was in the preseason much later i mean he might be be the next pick. I think Marlon Mack deserves some consideration here. I still think Melvin Gordon does. And, you know, okay. That's it.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Devontae Adams. Devontae Adams. Oh, wow. That's a big miss on my part. I should take Devontae Adams. He's going to be out for, I don't think you'd take him in the first 24 picks. He's going to be out for a little while longer.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You think so? All right. Okay. I mean, Keenan Allen's been better on a per-game basis than him and is currently healthy, so he should probably go before Devontae Adams. Right. Yeah. All right. But health is a big one. So we got this big game to preview.
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Starting point is 00:44:41 Be careful along our tracks and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. Kansas City at Denver. Is our resident Chiefs fan a little nervous about this game? Heath, that's you. I am an objective analyst that is not a fan of any team. No, I am. This is going to be a fun game for me because in our telethon league, I have arguably the best team in the league.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I'm four and two in the second highest scoring team. I'm facing Dave, who's five and one. I have Patrick Mahomes, Tyree Kill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelsey, Royce Freeman, and Phillip Lindsey. Wow. Wow. That's... I don't know. Go on, Game Stack. Not a great...
Starting point is 00:45:36 I don't think it's a great week to have a bunch of Chiefs. Let's start with the Chiefs. Since Tyree Kill's first game against Denver, he caught a touchdown in that game. He has not had more than 70 yards or a touchdown in his last four games against the Broncos. They have shut down Allen Robinson, Devontae Adams, DJ Chark, and Keenan Allen, although Chark had a touchdown call back.
Starting point is 00:45:53 None of those guys scored double-digit fantasy points in PPR. Mahomes scored 24 fantasy points and 6 points for passing touchdown leagues at Denver last season. He was much better at home against Denver. And they, look, Denver right now is looking like a very good defense, and they're coming around. I guess the jury's still out because they haven't had the toughest competition, but they held Aaron Rodgers to 15 fantasy points
Starting point is 00:46:16 for what that's worth. All right, so, Heath, is it all systems go for the Chiefs, at least for the big three on the Chiefs? The big three is no question, and it never is. Sammy Watkins is a mid-range flex. The running backs are the real problem. Okay, so let's talk about that. Ben, what's your take on Damian Williams, LeSean McCoy at Denver?
Starting point is 00:46:40 Your thoughts. Yeah, I think it's a tough situation to handicap. But Darrell Williams came in as their second running back last week Denver, your thoughts. Yeah, I think it's a tough situation to handicap, but Darrell Williams came in as their second running back last week and immediately caught a 50-something yard, 52-yard reception and then didn't play much the rest of the game. He got another target on the next drive. He played seven snaps total. It's like Andy Reid had him in their 15-play script
Starting point is 00:47:01 to start the game a little bit, but once that script ran out, they went back to their McCoy and Damian Williams two-man tandem tandem and if that's what it's going to be if it's going to just be two those guys are very valuable and the last two weeks there hasn't been a lot of touches and a lot of production for kansas city but the last two weeks kansas city's total yardage has been two of the bottom three games since patrick mums took over as a starter i don't think that continues i think they'll be all right he's aggravated his ankle in both of those games, assuming that he can at least stay healthy and not re-aggravate the injury every single week. I think their total yards bounces back.
Starting point is 00:47:33 That's good for the running backs overall. I think both of these guys can be starters. And I think both of them are by lows right now. Boy, I have a tough time starting a guy who just had two touches, though, in Damian Williams. I think I have to. But where do you have them ranked, Heath, McCoy and Damian Williams? I do not want to start a Chiefs running back, but McCoy would be my favorite. But again, there's probably some confirmation bias here on my part
Starting point is 00:48:00 because I was saying going into last week, Sean McCoy has been very good when they've given him rush attempts, averaging five and a half yards per carry. Damian Williams has been mostly terrible. They should give more to Sean McCoy. They gave him only eight. Again, he averaged five and a half yards per carry. And Damian Williams basically disappeared from the running game.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I mean, he had two touches in that game. Thirteen touches for the running backs combined. I mean, a weird game. Yeah, and 10 of them went to McCoy. And I, like, so far this season, and it's a very small sample size, but Damian Williams' only success
Starting point is 00:48:36 in the NFL is a very small sample size. So far this season, LaShawn McCoy has been much more productive than Damian Williams with touches. Over their careers, LaShawn McCoy has been a much productive than Damian Williams with touches. Over their careers, LaShawn McCoy has been a much better running back than Damian Williams. I just have to presume LaShawn McCoy is going to get the majority of the work.
Starting point is 00:48:52 So how would you rank all of the running backs in this game? Lindsey, Freeman, McCoy, Damian, Darryl. Lindsey should be started in most leagues. I would start both Denver running backs with confidence. Both Denver running backs.
Starting point is 00:49:09 So when you look at the last three weeks against the Chiefs, we have had three straight running backs have more than 20 carries and more than 110 yards. And I think two of those three scored a touchdown. And we're talking about Carloslos hyde marlin mac and oh i apologize who was the other one uh carry on johnson was it yeah i think so so yeah he had 26 carries carry on johnson i just mentioned obviously that i would start both kansas city backs i actually agree with he. I would prefer at least Lindsey overall.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I might take McCoy over Royce Freeman. But I just wanted to chime in to say, the reason I'm high on all these backs, Kansas City, third most – I'm always talking about high-value touches. Third most team high-value touches on the season. And the last two weeks have been their two lowest weeks because the offense has struggled. Denver is the fourth most team high-value touches. The only teams ahead of them are New England, which is to be expected, and the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Again, to be expected, they throw to their backs a ton. They rack up a lot of receptions. But the Chiefs and Broncos, they're committees, but there's so many high value touches in these committees. Even if McCoy gets a lot of the work, Damian Williams can still score like he did last week on few touches if he's getting receptions and if he's getting goal line scoring opportunities.
Starting point is 00:50:24 All right, just to sum it up,ian williams for dave jamie and heath is outside the top 30 and non-ppr outside the top 24 in ppr the sean mccoy is outside the top 24 i think in ppr and let me just see where he is 31 29 and 27 so they're they're both flexes. And then Lindsey and Royce Freeman are worth looking at here. Lindsey for sure. Royce Freeman, if he gets 12 carries, he's certainly got a good chance to get 60 rushing yards. And then he just hasn't scored a touchdown. He doesn't get any carries near the goal line.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So he might have to break one. But still a good flex this week. Would you start Frank Gore over, not over this week. Would you start Frank Gore over not over Lindsey, but would you start Frank Gore over the other guys? I wouldn't. I wouldn't start him over any of the backs in this game. Oh, come on. Against the Dolphins?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Definitely start him over both Chiefs. I would start him over Royce Freeman and non-PPR. In PPR, I'd prefer Freeman. I think I view Gore as having a floor pretty close to 10, and I think that's what Freeman's floor is.
Starting point is 00:51:32 The floor for McCoy and Williams is almost zero. This is just another philosophical thing, but 10 points doesn't win you your week. The difference between 12 points, which we think is a fine game, and 7 or 5 points doesn't lose you your week if you don't get those points. Yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:51:49 It certainly can. No, it does. It certainly can. But it's not the difference. Oh, I don't know. The difference in who wins your fantasy matchups, if you go back and look, it's go look at all your matchups, all your leagues throughout the season. It's who has the most 20, 25, 30-point games in their lineup.
Starting point is 00:52:03 You can have a whole roster of 10 to 15-point games. I don't think Damian Williams is getting 20 points here. I mean, I think Frank Gore has a good chance to get you 70 yards and a touchdown. Frank Gore's last time he hit 20 points, 2016. He's not going to hit 20 points. So that's my point. Yeah, all right. I mean, I get it.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You're the upside guy. You love the magenta zone for sure. But zeros do lose you weeks. Right. Twos lose you weeks. So who's going to get a zero here? Could be Damian Williams. I'm not saying for sure that McCoy or Williams.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I don't know. I don't know what the touches are. If you told me Darryl Williams got 12 touches in this game and led all the Chiefs backs, I wouldn't be that surprised. Sure. All right, wrapping up here, let's talk about the wide receivers. You're going to start Tyreek Hill, but he does not have a good history against the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And you know, that's what I said about Keenan Allen. I got yelled at for that. But of course, I'm starting Tyreek Hill. Sammy Watkins, Emmanuel Sanders, Cortland Sutton. How would you rank those three? Sutton's way ahead of the two. Yeah, I mean, like, the Chiefs, here's the MO on the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Their defense, their pass defense is not bad at home. It's terrible on the road. You know, like, they give up a ton of production to wide receivers on the road, and it makes me wonder about Emmanuel Sanders. I think you guys have him in the 30s. I know he's hard to trust right now.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He's had less than 10 yards in three of his last four games. He has a knee injury. Would you start Emmanuel Sanders or a Chiefs running back? I would start a Chiefs running back. I would start a Chiefs running back and non-PPR and probably Sanders and PPR. All right. It's really close, though. I do prefer Sanders and PPR. All right. It's really close, though.
Starting point is 00:53:45 And I do prefer Sanders to Watkins. You do? Yes. Okay. Start Kelsey, sit Fant, and the Broncos DST, a borderline starter. Not for Heath.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I think you have them pretty low, right? Broncos? Wait, why are we sitting Fant if you have bad tight ends? Because I'm actually going to start him in a couple leagues. Do you have some good stats on that? Well, he had a great matchup last week
Starting point is 00:54:09 and didn't do anything. Has he done anything? He scored a touchdown this year, but he doesn't have 40 yards in a game yet. But the Broncos don't throw a ton. I think they might have to throw a little more. He's running routes on 70% of dropbacks consistently. I think there's a little bit of appeal because kansas city's bad i've got him 15th
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Starting point is 00:55:47 FFT. From Apple Podcasts, here are the questions. From Low in the Cut, I'm struggling between Carson Wentz at Dallas and Josh Allen against Miami. Heath, who do you have? Wow. Whoa, that was a good one. All right. right i'm gonna have a new remix soon
Starting point is 00:56:09 josh allen or carson wetz i'm going allen yuck okay i'm going allen uh from jess b ben what are your thoughts on this trade give up travis kelsey get beckham mccoy greg olsen and hockinson what i mean there's so much more context needed if it's a shallow league you don't necessarily want to give up elite players for four for four guys back but i still think that's plenty of value for kelsey i think obj and who like mccoy olsen hockinson. There's plenty of value there to get to, to make up for like losing Kelsey. It's just a matter of like,
Starting point is 00:56:49 did you actually have people to drop or are you having to drop good players as well to make room for all these players? Yeah. I think, I think it's a trade worth making from AJ Heath and non PPR. Would you trade golden Tate for James white? What about Ronald Jones and Curtis Samuel for James White in non-PPR? I would not trade
Starting point is 00:57:09 Ronald Jones and Curtis Samuel for James White in non-PPR. What about Golden Tate? Would you trade Tate for White? I don't think I would. Okay. Yeah. White hasn't been very valuable in non-PPR. From Roark, give up Julio Jones and Leonard Fournette.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Give Kerryon Johnson. Wait, I'm sorry. Okay, you're giving. Let's start over. Ben, you're giving Kerryon Johnson, Tyler Lockett, and Hooper. You're getting Julio Jones and Leonard Fournette. Wait, sorry. Say that again.
Starting point is 00:57:42 You give up carry on Johnson Tyler Lockett and Austin Hooper get Julio Jones and Leonard Fournette I love it the most valuable receiver and the most valuable running back out of that trade and you know I I have already said on the show I don't think Hooper is an elite tight end so I would I would make that those swaps and we're going to finish the show with a quick fun round of fill in the blank. From Brock, AJ Green is a top blank wide receiver rest of season.
Starting point is 00:58:13 40? 50? 35. Okay, what about when he's healthy? 30. 25. From Jake, Melvin Gordon is a top blank running back rest of season. when he's healthy. No. 30. 25. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:25 From Jake, Melvin Gordon is a top-blank running back rest of season. 24. Barely. From Eric, I traded Tyreek Hill for Devante Adams
Starting point is 00:58:37 in PPR Dynasty. I am blank at fantasy. I gave up Hill for Adams in PPR Dynasty. I am blank at fantasy. Good. Cautious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 What did you say? Cautious? That was good. I like that. I think you're good. I think you're good at fantasy. John James Wilkins says, Adam is a blank.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I think that's perfect. Yeah. I couldn't think of anything. My mind was blank. Oh, man. That's perfect. Yeah. I couldn't think of anything. My mind was blank. Oh, man. That's good. From Brun. Hopkins for Mahomes is blank.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Bad. Bad. Irod says John Brown is blank. A wide receiver won this week. Meh. From Zachary. Austin Eckler is better than blank and worse than blank. A wide receiver won this week. Meh. From Zachary, Austin Eckler is better than blank and worse than blank rest of season.
Starting point is 00:59:33 He's the better version of Chase Edmonds and the worst version of Alvin Kamara. Oh, come on. That's too easy. That's a huge range. But they're similar. I mean... Austin Eckler is better than... He's worse than Phillip Lindsay rest of season.
Starting point is 00:59:48 And he's better than Miles Sanders. Yeah, that's good. I agree with those. That's another big range though. Better than... I don't even know how to... Austin Eckler is worse than Tevin Coleman rest of season
Starting point is 01:00:06 okay but better than Carlos Hyde from Brent at Lord Reeves is a blank fantasy football analyst go I can accept known yes
Starting point is 01:00:24 and I will say he is a now known to me fantasy I can accept that. Known. Yes. Known. And I will say he is a now known to me fantasy football analyst. That's great. From Fantasy Football Opinions, Blank is the wide receiver to own in Tennessee with the quarterback change. Do the volunteers have any good wide receivers? Maybe Adam Humphreys. AJ Brown.
Starting point is 01:00:45 By the way, Ryan Tannehill is definitely a better passer than Marcus Mariota. From Sam, zero RB strategy has been blank so far. God awful, destroying all of my seasons. No, I don't think it's been that. I have some very bad zero running back teams. It has failed in many ways, depending on the wide receivers and running backs you've chosen. But I also have a zero running back team that this week I'm going to be trying to decide
Starting point is 01:01:20 between five guys in my top 20, and I didn't take a running back in the first six rounds. That's wonderful. I think the problem with zero RB has actually been the wide receivers. Well, yeah. This is a big reason in the preseason we talked. I mean, I know I talked a lot about doing like a modified zero running back where you can still take running backs in the first and second round,
Starting point is 01:01:37 but then you don't take running backs in the dead zone that we talked about, right, the three to five range. It's tough right now because none of the elite receivers are hitting. That's the thing. But your team's not awful because the dead zone has been bad for running backs too. All right, we got to get out of here. Thank you so much, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow with the AFC home games. And that's it. I'm done. Goodbye.

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