Fantasy Football Today - 10/17: Start or Sit (AFC); Most Traded List (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 17, 2019

Let's start the show with a look at the Fantasy Football Most Traded list (2:15)! Odell Beckham is atop this list, and there are several other WRs with interesting trade value like Juju Smith-Schuster and Stefon Diggs. How do we feel about RBs who don't catch passes like Derrick Henry, Mark Ingram and Marlon Mack? And has Carson Wentz proven he is matchup-proof? ... Week 7 stats to know (9:30) including good ones for Travis Kelce, Tyler Boyd, Will Fuller and Josh Jacobs. Then we've got our Tullamore Dew Players of the Week (17:25) and a plethora of news & notes (21:30) as we update you on Todd Gurley and more, plus "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" for some of the games we're discussing later in the show (27:10) ... HOU-IND (29:15), BAL-SEA (37:15), JAC-CIN (46:00), NE-NYJ (52:10), LAC-TEN (56:50), OAK-GB (1:01:50), MIA-BUF (1:07:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to the Thursday show, everybody. It is time to begin our start or sit for Fantasy Week 7. AFC home games plus a couple of NFC ones today. A lot more NFC than AFC home games this week. I'm Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings. They're all here. Who's going to win tonight, guys?

I got a weird feeling the Broncos win. I like that map. America. America will win. Heath? Another good Thursday night game then. Hopefully. Big game for us in our telethon league because almost my entire team is Chiefs and Broncos.

Ooh. Starting both Broncos running backs, Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelsey. So we will know. A 3-3 score would not be good for you. Yeah. No. High-scoring game tonight.

Oh, sorry. It sounded like you were going to keep saying high-scoring game tonight. Sky is blue. I agree. Yankees 7, Astros 6. High-scoring game tonight, and America will win. You feel confident? No, of course I don't feel confident.

You can't feel confident facing the Astros. They're really good. You're at home. I'm going to be at the game, so I'm pretty excited. Cool. Yeah, so I got some stats to know for the games that we're previewing today, like Robbie Anderson's terrible history against the Patriots, what Tyler Boyd has not had the entire season,

a stat about Will Fuller, who's always a questionable start. A stat about Josh Jacobs, as we'll try to look at the Oakland-Green Bay game. But I do want to talk a little bit of trade with Dave and Jamie, since they don't get to participate in the Wednesday trade show. Let's take a look at the most traded players in CBS Sports leagues. You can go to the roster trends in your league page. Odell Beckham is number one.

Stefan Diggs, number two, Juju three, and Hopkins four. Your top four most traded players are wide receivers. Beckham, Diggs, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Hopkins. And a reminder, Beckham, he faces, he's got a bye this week, and then he faces the teams that currently rank three, two, and one in fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. New England, Denver, Buffalo 1 in fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. New England, Denver, Buffalo, two of those games on the road. So what are your reactions to specifically Beckham, but Beckham, Diggs, Juju, and Hopkins at the top of this most traded list?

I mean, you're buying low on those guys with the hope that they become who they are. And people are selling high on Stephon Diggs after a three-touchdown game. Are these good ideas? Well, I mean, if you're getting them cheap enough, absolutely. You know, if you're if you're able to, you know, somewhat steal them from, you know, like at this point, you would trade Diggs for probably Beckham and Hopkins for sure. And Juju is a toss up just because of the quarterback situation. But I mean, if you could turn Stephon Diggs into Odell Beckham or DeAndre Hopkins, I would do that in a heartbeat. I too i think digs and juju

is really close i think it's interesting if that's the trade that you make at this point i don't know if juju can put up the numbers that i i'm going to change that he's not going to put up the numbers that we intended for him to get when you drafted him can he be a number two receiver the rest of the way i think he can i think he can i think he can um essentially the quarterback situation hurts him and the targets hurt targets we've been complaining about for stefan diggs is basically where juju's ceiling is going to be six seven targets a week yeah and the quarterback situation is better for yeah and the timing is the timing is really good to get deandre hopkins on the cheap or at least cheaper than it would have cost you on draft day.

Okay, and then Heath, I see Matt Breida 5, Melvin Gordon 6. Let me ask you this. You look at Beckham, Juju, and Hopkins. How many of them would you prefer over Melvin Gordon, rest of season? All? Yeah, all of them. Okay, well we're really pretty scared about Melvin Gordon then. Yeah, they can't block anybody. He's sharing and they're throwing a lot. So it's a bad situation, and he hasn't looked special so far. So it's a bad situation all the way around.

So Heath, what do you make of, you know, we got Joe Mixon on here, we got Matt Breida in the top 12. Sonny Michel and Marlon Mack. Actually, if I could steer the conversation toward this group of running backs, Sonny Michel, Marlon Mack, and then, you know, Derek Henry's not on this top top 12 and neither is Mark Ingram, but these running backs

that are, you know, surviving on touchdowns in some cases, not catching a lot of passes. We saw with Derrick Henry, what, how bad of a week you can have when you're not involved in the passing game. He had that last week. So, you know, what do you think about selling high on running backs who are thriving right now but basically because of touchdowns and don't catch passes yeah i mostly am behind that idea especially when it comes to guys like michelle and henry i'm marilyn mack i'm a little bit indifferent on because i think he's going to get be in a better situation i don't think his touches are going anywhere i'm a little bit worried when rex burhead's healthy, what happens to Sonny Michel's volume.

I also think it depends on what your running back situation is. If you're thin at running back, I don't think you can afford to trade these guys unless you're getting a running back you can start and return. But let me tell you where Derrick Henry has finished since his first two weeks were great. Since then, in non-PPR, his better

format, he hasn't been higher than RB 16 in his last four games. In better format, he hasn't been higher than RB16 in his last four games. In PPR, he hasn't been higher than RB22 in his last four games. I think you may have missed your chance to sell on Derek Henry, but I think we're seeing you don't catch passes. You don't get those extra yards, even 70 yards and a touchdown. I mean, it's not like an amazing week. It's not necessarily winning you weeks.

So you have an RB, too. Just put it that way in non-PPR with him. And, yeah, that's pretty much all I wanted to say about the most traded list. Dave and Jamie, I don't know if there are any other guys. Dave, for some reason, rejected a perfectly reasonable trade offer that I made to him yesterday, and he turned it down and accepted a worse trade offer that Heath made to him. Who was the running back that you offered me?

I offered you Royce Freeman for Darren Waller. You said no. And I took Devin Singletary. That was mean. You like Singletary better than Freeman? I do. After this week, I will trade you Darren Waller for Royce Freeman, Adam.

And then I turn Devin Singletary into Royce Freeman and I'll feel better about it. We could talk about that for sure. Okay. Anything else, guys? Any trades you want to talk about? Jamie, Dave? The floor is yours.

No. I made two trades this week. I traded in a keeper, at least Devin Singletary, for Carson Wentz because I had Jameis and there was nothing good on waivers. So I didn't like giving up Singletary as a keeper but I get to keep Wentz if if I so choose um so good good I'm glad you brought up Wentz I'm sorry to interrupt but that is a great guy to bring up because we were so worried about his schedule

right beginning with last week in Minnesota and he just had this with this like five straight games of tough matchups well he came through looking pretty good. I mean, 24 fantasy points against Minnesota. Should we reevaluate the fears we had about Wentz? I think so. I think now we've seen two tough matchups on the road against Green Bay and Minnesota, and he's performed very well.

And the hope would be is that he gets another weapon coming back in Deshaun Jackson soon. So that should change things. I don't like Jason Peters being banged up. That's not a good sign because, you know, part of the reason why he's playing well is he's not getting touched. You know, so with these teams that he's facing with these, you know, good pass rushes is that he's getting protection.

You know, certainly the Green Bay game. I haven't seen the Minnesota game yet. I'll watch that tomorrow. But, you know, my guess is he probably didn't get hit a lot. And so that's been a big key for him. So if he can stay healthy, he's going to, I think, still be very serviceable and the chance to be great. And so I like the setup for him this week against another tough matchup.

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All right, guys. Some stats to know for this week's game. I'm going to throw a stat at you. You tell me how you feel about it. Not all of them are necessarily specific to game matchups, but there are three players that have five or six targets in the green zone, which is inside the 10-yard line, as we know. Five or six targets in the green zone is great.

That's top four in the NFL. But none of them have any green zone touchdowns. That would be Travis Kelsey, who's at Denver this week, Mike Williams, who's at Tennessee, and Jarvis Landry, who's on a bye. Heath, what do you think about that? Kelsey, Williams, and Landry have been targeted inside the 10-yard line five or six times, and they have no touchdowns on those targets. That makes them good by lows, except Landry's really performed relatively well, so I don't know that he's by low. But yeah, I think Kelsey for sure,

people are worried all about him being the best tight end in football he's going to be. Landry's just a low. I don't want to buy him. I mean, I do think it's interesting that he's getting all the red zone targets and the green zone targets and the magenta zone targets, I would assume. Magenta zone? Yeah, that's inside the five. You missed it yesterday. Why don't you that's inside the five. You missed it yesterday.

Why don't you just say inside the five and inside the ten? Because it's just too long. It's too wordy. Green, magenta. Too many syllables. Come on, we've got to cut down on syllables. Why don't you just call it what it is? Inside the five, inside the ten.

Tyler Boyd still does not have a green zone target. Tyler Boyd's still... So you're learning. So that's, you know. I-10. We'll keep that in mind. I-10 would actually make more sense. Yeah.

That's what I write it as. I-10? When I do my notes. I-10. Lowercase I and the number 10. Not everybody lives near I-10. Or capital T. All right.

Here's a matchup one. Will Fuller has had six or seven targets in five of six games. There have been seven wide receivers with six or more targets against the Colts, and six of them have had 75 yards or a touchdown. That sets Will Fuller up for a good game. What do you think? Do those receivers catch the ball? Presumably.

Fun fact, Will Fuller does have a 68% catch rate this year. Really? I didn't even notice that. Yeah, he had three high-profile drops, but his catch rate's just fine. His targets have gone up the last couple weeks. Obviously, two weeks ago, he had 16 targets. That was ridiculous against Atlanta.

He caught 14 of them. I know, so that helped him out. They're using him a lot in the short area as well as just a deep ball guy, so he's not just a one-trick pony in this offense. It's a really good thing for him. But that stat made me a little more confident in him. He gets six or more targets pretty much every game and pretty much every receiver that gets that does well.

At this point, with four teams on a bye and injuries, you're starting Will Fuller. You have to have just a loaded receiving core to outright bench him. So whether it's a flex or number two or number three receiver, it's very difficult to bench him. Ryan Tannehill had three straight seasons with 24-27 passing touchdowns, but he also had

two straight seasons with more than 4,000 passing yards. Marcus Mariota's best passing yard season was a 3,654 yard pace. He only played 15 games. Okay, here we go. Go ahead.

These things are technically true. The better stat would have been Ryan Tannehill had three straight seasons with at least 586 pass attempts. Because he has a lower career yards per attempt and a lower career touchdown rate than Marcus Mariota. And the stats you gave just made it seem like he has been a more

prolific passer. I wasn't done. Well, he has been a more prolific passer, but fine, on a per-attempt basis. He's thrown it more, yes. I used the wrong word, sorry. More successful passer. Since Heath and I waited on it yesterday, Dave and Jamie, do you think this helps any Tennessee wide receivers? It can't hurt.

I mean, Mariota stinks. So while Tannehill may not have been better than him, a change is needed because nothing has been working for this Titans offense. So change it up. I certainly appreciate what the Titans are doing. They're not going to the playoffs with the current structure of what their team has been. And is it Mario's fault? No, but something has to change.

And if it's Tannehill coming in and doing a tick percent better, 5%, 10%, 20%, he could be worse, but at least they're trying something different to see if it's going to shake things up. And so Mariota is just not a franchise quarterback at this point. And I think back to Tannehill's tendencies with the Dolphins and who was the best receiver with him in Miami. It was Jarvis Landry. Well, I mean, part of that is by design because as we see with Adam Gase's offense, that's something that he likes to feature. So we'll see if Arthur Smith, for what it's worth, is going to do the same thing. But I mean, look, Corey Davis has been rotting away. We don't know if he's good or not because we haven't found out. We'll see if

A.J. Brown is good. And again, it may not be Tannehill. He's right. It's not like Tannehill's career is better than Marcus Mariota's career, but it's different. And so let's just see if this change for Tannehill and this change for the Titans can make things better because we'd like to see Corey Davis and A.J. Brown and Adam Humphreys and Delaney Walker put up numbers, and maybe this helps Derrick Henry. You know, again, it may flop, but I'm welcoming the change.

Can he throw a more catchable pass than Marcus Mariota? Yes. He can't throw a worse one. Well, he can throw one. He's been a worse passer than Marcus Mariota for their career. Right. And you're right. There's not a reason to expect him to be there.

The problem is the offensive line. But also what you're talking about, though, the beginning of Marcus Mariota's career was good. He's regressed significantly as a player. He's in a much worse situation. It's a bad situation for sure. He's in a worse situation than when he was a kid. I don't know if it's the line. I don't think the line is necessarily awful i think the play calling has been really bad and

i think the quarterback has been bad and i think tannahill is going to lean on the short area target so i'm curious to see what it does to adam humphries who had four targets and three catches and basically a quarter and change with tannahill last week and aj brown can be that guy too and we know that he likes he have a. Does he have a target? Yeah. From Tannehill, I don't know. He did. In the game, yes.

He did have at least one. I looked at the game log. He kind of spread the ball around Ryan Tannehill. Okay, guys, just one more stat. Josh Jacobs, do you think they're going to win at Green Bay? No. No. Okay, here are his carries. But I didn't think they were going to win against Minnesota.

Right. Right. He had a bad game against Minnesota. You mean Chicago? Yeah, here are his carries. But I didn't think they were going to win against Minnesota. Right, right. He had a bad game against Minnesota. You mean Chicago? Chicago, yeah. In line. Carries in his two losses. 12 carries against Kansas City, 10 carries at Minnesota.

Both of those losses were by 18 or more points, but they were not good games. I know we like Justin. Wasn't he banged up in the Kansas City game? I don't know. He actually ran like 10 times for 90 yards or something. But maybe it was 12, whatever it was, 12 for 90. I'm just saying, he has not been, you know,

the game script could matter for Jacobs. I believe the game against Kansas City, he left, they were actually in the game, and he got banged up in the game. You're right, he had 99 yards rushing because he's the low man of the last five games against the chiefs at 99 yards played 48 of the snaps yeah he got hurt in that game i remember reading something like the the the score was close and then he left and then that's when the doors blew open obviously it was the the chief's offense but you know controlling time of possession was big for the raiders but you like jacobs this week at green

bay right i mean i yeah it's it's hard to get away from again with the injuries and the guys on a bye. I think, you know, you look at what the Packers, even though the run defense has been better the last two games against Dallas and Detroit, they still get up to touchdowns in those games. So they've given up a lot of touchdowns since week one when they kept the Bears out of the end zone. I like the fact that Jacobs has been more involved in the passing game five catches the last two weeks so they're starting to use him as John Gruden has said and if last game for them was an indication

without Tyrell Williams then maybe that's something that they could build on because Williams right now is dealing with a Liz Frank injury Alright, so he's top 14 in PPR he's top 12 in non-PPR that's Josh Jacobs Alright guys, let's get our game time Tully time, player of the week presented by Telemordue. Dave, Jamie, and Heath are going to select a player

that's going to have a big game or just a surprisingly good game. It doesn't have to be a massive performance here in Fantasy Week 7. Heath, why don't you kick it off? Who's someone you really like this week? I'll go with Royce Freeman tonight against Kansas City Chiefs. He has at least 15 touches in three of his last four games, 15 touches, plenty against this Chiefs defense. They cannot stop anyone on the ground.

They're on short week on the road after playing, what, 90 snaps? We're going to call it 90 snaps. We can't figure out what the exact number is unless we go back to the count. I think he gets his first touchdown. I think he gets over 80 yards, and he's a top 20 running back this week.

Wow. All right, Dave, who's your telly time player of the week? Let's go with Alan Lazard of the Green Bay Packers. I'm expecting Jeronimo Allison and Devonta Adams to not play. It's the Raiders' secondary. I think it's exploitable. I think Aaron Rodgers wants this guy to play more. Certainly threw at him like he wanted him on the field last week.

I'm going to double down on Lazard and say that he can get you at least 10 in a PPR league. If you're really stuck at flex, you can turn to him. They may not and say that he can get you at least 10 in a PPR league. If you're really stuck at flex, you can turn to him. They may not have anybody. What do you mean? They're all hurt. Yeah. MVS didn't practice earlier.

Oh, that's true. That's true. So Lazard could be like the number one guy by default. And by the way, that helps Josh Jacobs. I mean, that certainly helps the Raiders. In theory, yes. Yeah, I don't think the Packers blow them out. So yes, Jacobs should still be in the game.

And Jamie, it's game time. It's telly time. I'll go. I have three Bills as the start of the week in Josh Allen, John Brown, and Frank Gore. But I'll go with the fourth member of the Bills offense with Devin Singletary coming back. I think, you know, figure 10 to 12 touches. I don't expect him to have much more than I know what you projected him for, Heath, but I'm going to guess it's probably around there. We saw him in the first two weeks of the season

with less than 10 touches in those two games. He left the second game 11 or more PPR points, and it's the Dolphins. So anybody playing against Miami isn't playing. I would start him over David Montgomery. I would start him over Joe Mixon. I'd start him over Melvin Gordon this week. Yeah, I've got him at 10 touches, 12 PPR points.

That's pretty. That's Devin Singletary. But you'd rather start Gore? I would. I just think you're talking 15, 16 carries for him in a game that they should win relatively easily. So Gore is the safer of the two. I would not be surprised if Singletary has a bigger game. But floor versus ceiling here, I think the floor is safer for Gore.

You know, I don't know if you saw my very thought-provoking tweet that in a non-PPR league, I really want to start Frank Gore and Carlos Hyde against the Colts over Alvin Kamara at the Bears. Well, it may be easy for you because it doesn't seem like Kamara's going to play. I know, but if he does play, I'm almost hoping he doesn't play so i don't have to make that decision but yeah i mean i could see gore hides a little bit more tricky but gore i mean look you're making a bet against the matchup yeah and the matchup's certainly easy well you can think about that kind of stuff when you exactly yeah see you can put frank Frank Gore in your FanDuel lineup.

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Buffalo is our number one DST this week. Mitchell Trubisky is questionable but trending in the right direction. Saquon Barkley practiced in full, so he should play. Devin Singletary, same thing. Alvin Kamara may not play, but would you trust Latavius Murray at Chicago? Number two running back. It's the, I think we should start calling it the Wayne Gallman theory. Volume.

You're just hoping for a lot of touches and still a competent offense. And we'll find out if this Bears defense without Akeem Hicks is just as good. But the thing that you liked about Alvin Kamara, which Latavius Murray's not going to do the same level, is the catches. And so he's going to be probably, what would you say,

five, six catches? Yeah. If he's the starter there. Whatever he does, total yards, and hopefully falls in the end zone, I think that's kind of what you're looking for. I'd start him again. I'll use the same guys. I'd start him over Mixon.

I'd start him over Montgomery. I'd start him over Melvin Gordon. Three guys that you clearly drafted and had high hopes for. And that's who Kamara's had, obviously. Let's go to the Rams. Dave, do we think Todd Gurley's going to play? And Daryl Henderson is only owned in 38% of leagues. Both Gurley and Brown are dinged up.

Yeah, let's see how things move on this week before we make any hard and fast judgments. But it sounds like Malcolm Brown's ankle injury could be fairly significant. And Gurley is starting to work his way back. I wonder if they're actually rushing him because of Brown not being ready to go. Just keeping an eye on the practice reports. There's a lot in flux. I made the move in one of my leagues to get Henderson off the waiver wire as soon as I could. I dropped Chase Edmonds for him, and I don't know if that's going to be smart or not. Johnson didn't practice on Wednesday. I know, that's why. I think it's smart, but maybe I'll have the chance to make that move back. If I

find out that Gurley ends up practicing and it looks good for him, I'm dropping Henderson in a second to go get Edmonds back on my bench. Although, you know, look, Henderson's in a situation where two running backs are banged up, so it's not the worst idea. But again, 38% on. There's a chance Daryl Henderson wins you this week

at Atlanta, so somebody to keep an eye on. Rashad Penny expected to play this week and Chris Thompson has turf toe, so I'm assuming we don't expect him to play against San Francisco. Wide receivers? No, they added a running back. Okay. Sammy Watkins is out.

Amari Cooper mispracticed. Not looking great for Sunday night. Let's play the do you expect game. Christian Kirk at the Giants. No. Not as of now. Marquise Brown at Seattle. Trending in the right direction.

Deshaun Jackson at Dallas. No. Not yet. Josh Gordon and Philip Dorsett. No and yes. It looks like Dorsett's got a real good shot to play. Please pick him up. Will A.J. Green return?

When will A.J. Green return? When will A.J. Green return? Maybe next week? I'd say next week is probably safe. Okay. He has a bye after that, so maybe after the bye. But it's probably not going to be this week for A.J. Green. Tyrell Williams still dealing with a foot injury. Not looking great for Tyrell, right?

No, it could be extended absence. It's plantar fasciitis. And Devontae Adams, Marquez Valdez, Scanling, and Geronimo Allison are all dealing with injuries. We'll have to preview that. The Raiders are really bad against wide receivers. They're really bad against the passing game.

That's why Dave said Al and Lazard. They signed a receiver, so it's not good. They signed Ryan Grant. Don't just ignore the Packers wide receivers. Tight ends, Chris Herndon's week to week. Evan Ingram is questionable, but we think he'll play, right, Evan Ingram?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts in full. Top three tight end. And Packers tight end, Jay Sternberger. He's a rookie. He's on IR. He's eligible to play in week nine.

We can talk about that a little later in the season, but maybe in a deeper league. Who knows? Offensive line stuff. Jets could be without their left tackle, Kelvin Beachum. Bengals could get Cordy Glenn, their left tackle, back. Dwayne Brown could miss his second straight game for the Seahawks. Didn't really matter for Russell Wilson last week.

And Oakland left tackle Trent Brown has been accused of domestic violence, so we'll see how that plays out. Other news. Oh, the been accused of domestic violence. So we'll see how that plays out. Other news. Oh, the Eagles secondary is getting healthier. Jalen Mills and Ronald Darby practiced. Jason Peters is making it too. Right, on the offensive line. Thank you.

Rashad Breeland for Kansas City may not play. So Flacco, I have to start Flacco in a league. He's got a chance. Yeah, you might actually feel good about that. There's no Chris Jones. There's no Bashaw Breeland. There's no Kendall Fuller. And my fan, Dillis Holden, I'm playing him tonight.

Yeah, okay. And Atlanta cornerback Desmond Trufant mispracticed. He missed last week's game. They got torched. So come on, Jared Goff. Come on. I'm starting you again. Don't let me down.

Oh, he's going to go off this week. You can't spell go off without Goff, come on. I'm starting you again. Don't let me down. Oh, he's going to go off this week. You can't spell go off without Goff. Start, sit, or... Yeah, that's right. I'm in the magenta zone right now. Thank you. Appreciate that. Waver Hub is the funniest thing I've ever said.

Start, sit, or flex at best. Frank Gore... Actually, the funniest thing you ever did was when I said, Adam, look to your right and look to your left. And not just like quickly, you did it slowly. You did like a slow turn to your left. And you said, oh, wait, I just turned to my left. Because I was looking in the camera,

and the camera is like a mirror. You know, it's reflected. So it's like the right is left. And that was this morning. Well, if you're looking in the camera, you wouldn't be seeing yourself. No, I was seeing myself. I had a window of...

Forget it, Jay. Okay, start, sit, or flex at best. Heath, I was seeing myself. I had a window of... Forget it, Jay. Okay, start, sit, or flex at best. Heath, you haven't spoken in five minutes. Frank Gore against Miami. Start, easy. He's top 15 running back this week in non-PPR, top 20 in PPR. Okay, a running back has scored

12 or more non-PPR fantasy points every game against the Dolphins. Kenyon Drake at Buffalo. Heath again. No. Okay. Not at all. Sody Michelle at the J again. No. Okay. Not at all. Sody Michelle at the Jets.

Everybody. Starred. Interesting though if Burkhead comes back. The Jets actually have a good run defense per carry. They give up a lot of touchdowns though. Michelle was terrible against them earlier this year, right?

That was the game where we started wondering if he was going to lose the job. That was Burkhead, though. Yep, Burkhead played and had a good game. Jamison Crowder against New England. Sit. I'll start him in PPR. Flex at best. Oh, we got all three there. Melvin Gordon at Tennessee.

Sit. Sit. Flex at best. Austin Eckler at Tennessee. You're forgetting about an entire category. Yeah, you guys are. Austin Eckler in Tennessee. You're forgetting about an entire category. Yeah, you guys are. Austin Eckler in Tennessee. I mean, technically all these guys could be flex at best. It's kind of a weird thing. No, Frank Gore's a starter. You named the category. You named

the segment, Jamie. Remember this used to be start-o-meter and you said, why don't we change it to start-sit or flex at best? This is you. Start, Eckler, and PPR. Flex at best and none. I'm going to give him a six on the start-o-meter. Aaron Rodgers against Oakland.

Do it flex at best. There you go. It's tough, right? He's a low-end starter. Trending towards a sit. Yes. He's outside my top 12. I'd start Minchie over him.

He might be outside my top 12. I'd start Minchie over him. He might be outside my top 12. Start Ethan over him. By the way, as Chris Towers pointed out on our Monday show, Melvin Gordon actually ran more routes than Austin Eckler. So just careful there with the... Yeah. Congratulations, Melvin. What a mess.

What a mess in the Chargers' backfield. I don't have them very far apart. Neither do I. And they're not going to get very far because that offensive line is just awful for them. They can't get anywhere between the tackles. Previewing the games. They're not going to golf.

They're not going to golf. They're not going to golf. Let's preview the games. Houston at Indianapolis. Stat of the game. I already gave it about Will Fuller. Wide receivers with six or more targets do well against the Colts.

I get lazy. Deshaun Watson is awesome. He's third, second, and sixth for Heath. But I think there are like six quarterbacks that are just bonkers this week, right? I mean, in terms of Ryan, Murray, Jamie's rankings. Ryan, Murray, Watson, Mahomes, Wilson, Jackson. It's a pretty hot top six. Mahomes guy stinks.

How about Carlos Hyde? Carlos Hyde, yeah, he's been good two weeks in a row. Dave, you called him a winner on Sunday, and the Colts allow 4.7 yards per carry to running backs, but not a lot of points to running backs necessarily. What do you think about Hyde this week? I think he's got a chance to get you 10 non-PPR. I think that would be close to get you 10 non-PPR.

I think that would be close to his ceiling in non-PPR. We've seen this Colts run defense actually play. They played okay statistically last week, but they didn't really get tested against the Chiefs on the ground. Now, through the air, it's a different story. Damian Williams caught a touchdown. Or no, that was two weeks ago. They didn't allow a touchdown against the Chiefs.

I'm sorry. I messed up my opponents. Bottom line is this. They're getting Darius Leonard back. I think that helps them. And I'm not convinced that the Colts are going to try and do something different than what they did against the Chiefs in their last game. This is where I was going with it, is that defensively, they had a good game plan to slow down the Chiefs. I wonder if they do the exact same thing to slow down the Texans. And Houston likes giving him the football.

It's just a matter of will he get those 15-plus carries, and will he score? He's scored in three of his last four games. This is one I struggle with. I'd start Royce Freeman over him. I'd start Devin Singletary over him. Jamal Williams. See, that one really surprised me with Devin Singletary

because you don't know what his role is going to be. We're just guessing about his role. Yeah, I prefer Hyde to Singletary, but just barely. I'll take Singletary because you don't know what his role is going to be. We're just guessing about his role. Yeah, I prefer Hyde to Singletary, but just barely. I'll take Singletary and PPR. I was going PPR. Right, non-PPR.

It's closer just because there's more touchdown potential with Carlos Hyde. Right. But, I mean, look, we've seen him stink. There was that stretch of games after he had the first

two games for Houston. I think it was like weeks three, four, and five. He wasn't good. So he had one game in there where he scored a touchdown, but the yards were terrible. So it's just a matter of how this game will sort of flow. But he's their primary guy.

He's the most likely to fall into the end zone. We've seen at least a few games ago where he had the four catches for six yards. They will try and throw him the ball from time to time. I just think that there's a limited ceiling with him. Okay, who's a better flex? the four catches for six yards, they will try and throw him the ball from time to time. I just think that there's a limited ceiling with him. Who's a better flex, Carlos Hyde or Will Fuller? Fuller.

DeAndre Hopkins, he was great against the Colts last year. He's better than Carlos Hyde, too. Obviously, we're going to start Hopkins, and if he doesn't do well, we can freak out about him on Sunday night, but start Hopkins. Darren Fels is interesting. He's top 12 in non-PPR.

He's top 13 in PPR, and he's had 69 yards or a touchdown in three of four games. Darren Fels is only 24% owned, and boy, the Colts really stink against tight ends. They allow the third most fantasy points to tight ends, so are there any guys...

They've been good ones, though. They've been really good ones that have beat them up. Yeah, they faced Henry. They faced Walker. They faced Hooper. They faced Waller and Kelsey and Moreau, for what that's worth. But are there any tight ends that people typically start that you would start Darren Fels over? You prefer Darren Fels to these guys? Over Hawkinson, over Graham, over the two guys that he's playing against,

over Delaney Walker. Over Jared Cook, too. Most of those. I would still start Hawkinson, but yeah, other than that. I'll go back to, we have Evan Washburn, our CBS Sports NFL reporter, those sidelines for CBS. Am I going to have to start doing the drink water

when we mention Evan Washburn? I don't have any water today, unfortunately. No. Okay. But he was on our show on Monday, and he was at this game between the Texans and the Chiefs. And he said in the meetings with Bill O'Brien that they want to keep their tight ends involved and continue to get them going. And it's hurting Hopkins.

It's something to keep an eye on. Now, this could be an Aikens week. Right. That's what worries me. We've seen that from time to time, thatikens has been better than than Fels but I think just if you watch the two of them but like Fels is just a big dude and you know he's another one of those former basketball players that is playing in the NFL um here's one for you drink you know Pete Prisco will always say every time he sees a six foot five power forward in college basketball

that that guy should go try out for the NFL and and not to go on a tangent but Pete once upon a time used to cover college basketball for us in the offseason I did that as well we used to you know cover all the NCAA regional matchups and Pete did a Kent State game and he saw Antonio Gates just sitting there and he knew that he played college football and he said you should give up basketball and go play in the nfl and pete every time he sees antonio gates says when you send me my check that's actually that's a good tangent thank you for going on that all right let's talk about the colts here jacoby brissett starter sit yeah i'll start him i am close to starting him over aaron rogers yeah i'm there i'd start him over rivers i some of rivers and Stafford. I agree. Look, the matchup says that he's got to throw, and I trust the Colts coaching staff to give him those opportunities.

I know Marlon Maxman could. It's funny you say that, though, because they kind of go against what conventional says because of how their team is. I don't think they let the opponent dictate what they want to do. I think they kind of dictate their own sort of pace and schedule. Yeah. Interesting.

Houston's run defense was awful in week one it's been better since not great against the sean mccoy last week but you know the kansas city running backs didn't really run that much um you said not great or it was great no against mccoy in particular no it wasn't great but he only had eight carries for life well i'm just saying but like alvin camara i. Sorry. So Fournette, the Chargers, the Panthers, the Falcons, they allowed 3.4 yards per carry to those running backs. Boy, this is great. And you can't really judge them on last week's game because the Chiefs ran the ball nine times with their running backs.

Nine times. Nine times. So look, they're going to try and get Marlon Mack touches, and I think he can be fine. Is he a must-start? He'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah, the thing about Brissette is it's either going to be one of two things.

He's going to have a Russell Wilson game like we saw earlier in the season where he's not throwing the ball a lot, but he's being productive in those attempts. Or it's going to be like the Raiders game where they're down a lot and he's throwing. So I don'tiders game where they're down a lot and he's throwing, you know. So I don't see this as they're coming out and saying Jacoby Brissett is throwing 40 times and that's the way we're trying to beat the Texans. I just don't see that happening for Frank Reich and this team. Okay.

T.Y. Hilton start. Nobody else for. He destroys the Texans. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Yes. Keep an eye on that on FanDuel. Eric Ebron and Doyle sit.

Texans have been very good against tight ends. They did well against Hooper. They did well against Kelsey. And the DSTs are outside of the top 12. And that's going to do it for this game. Let me just ask you, who do you think is going to be better this week? T.Y. Hilton or DeAndre Hopkins? Hilton.

Hilton. Hilton and non-Hopkins in BPR. Take a break here. When we come back, Baltimore at Seattle. Baltimore, the second highest scoring team in football. That's usually going to mean it's a good game for Russell. This is going to be a fun game. Oh, yeah.

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Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. All right, Ravens-Seahawks. What's the spread of this game? I actually don't know. I think it's Seattle by three. Kind of like the Ravens here, but whatever. That's a tangent. Seattle by three and a half.

Over under of 49 and a half, which I believe is the third highest on the schedule this week. Stat of the game number one. If you own Marquise Brown, six of seven wide receivers who have had seven or more targets against the Seahawks have scored 13 or more fantasy points in PPR. I don't know if Marquise Brown will get that, but if he does, he'll probably do well. Stat of the game number two, Baltimore is allowing 3.3 yards per carry when Brandon Williams is playing, or at least in the games that he has played.

And no running back has rushed for more than 62 yards in those games, but only one running back has double-digit carries. So we'll talk about Carson in a moment. He's got a tough matchup, but I'm sure we'll start him. Lamar Jackson is a top-six quarterback. He's in that group. How do you feel about Mark Ingram this week? How would you compare him to Marlon Mack?

Worse. Prefer Mack. Same. Okay, but you do like Ingram. You guys have him top 15 in non-PPR. to Marlon Mack. Worse. Prefer Mack. Same. Okay. But you do like Ingram. You guys have him top 15 in the NICPR. How can you get away from starting him? Right.

He's just one of those things where, you know, the yards have exactly been great, but the touchdown potential's there, and you're talking maybe two, three catches. So, you know, I would say it's a floor of 15 touches. Right. And so the hope would be, you would be he just finds the end zone. I don't think he's going for 100 in a touchdown in this game

unless he just happens to break one. So here's a great Ingram stat. He leads the NFL in magenta zone carries inside the five-yard line. He has eight of them. Gus Edwards, though, has five inside the five-yard line. So Ingram has eight carries inside the five, and he has scored six touchdowns. Edwards has five carries inside the five-yard line and no touchdowns.

How many of those for Edwards have come in competitive games, though? I have no idea, but he hasn't scored. I mean, he's had five carries inside the five and hasn't scored. Sounds like they should give it to Mark Ingram more. Maybe. Ingram's got six touchdowns on eight carries there. It's just interesting. All right, Baltimore wide receivers, if Marquise Brown plays,

will you start him? Low end number two. Yep. Would you start him or Fuller? Fuller. Would you start Brown or Mark Ingram? Ingram. Yeah? Ingram. Yeah, Ingram.

Yes. Would you start Sneed or Boykin or something if Brown doesn't play? No. Deep desperation. No, I'd rather go with Lazard or Adam Humphreys. Those guys are owned. I'll use Adam Humphreys' own. I'll use Mon FanDuel.

More than Sneed and Boykin. I'll use Mon FanDuel. Mark Andrews is 7th for Dave and in non-PPR, fourth for Heath, and just bump him down one spot in PPR, eighth for Dave and Jamie, fifth for Heath. Seattle allows the fifth most fantasy points to tight ends. So, yeah, you're starting Mark Andrews. All right, Russell Wilson, start.

Who do you like better, Wilson or Jackson? Wilson. Wilson. Wilson. Cool. Chris Carson, any hesitation at all? Joe Mixon had what, eight carries for 10 yards last week? Yeah, yeah.

I know that Carson's going to get more work than Mixon. I think Carson's line, as banged up as Seattle's line is, it's better than Mixon's line and and how about this i think that the seahawks coaching staff will use carson in smarter ways than how the bengals have been deploying mixin and mixin by the end of the game was losing touches to giovanni bernard geo played more in the fourth quarter so there's a lot going on with nixon can't compare that there is no he played more snaps for the whole game yeah yeah yeah because in the fourth quarter he played twice as many or maybe it's the second half but either way we're talking about a bengals running back when we shouldn't be carson's a must start

yeah hard hard to get away from him for sure and and now's the perfect time to go and get rashad penny while penny's value is in the absolute gutter if you've got Carson, you've got to acquire Penny just to handcuff him to Carson. Okay. Well, alright. David Johnson had 14 rushing guards. James Conner had 55 rushing guards. Mixon had 10 rushing guards. So we'll see what happens.

He should get more work than all of those guys. Although, the Ravens own time of possession. Look, I'm just very interested in this game. I wish it were a primetime game. You know, unfortunately, it's not. Talk to me about the Seattle wide receivers. How do you feel about them this week? The Ravens allow the 10th most fantasy points to wide receivers.

They did just trade for Marcus Peters. And a lot of times, it's the number two guy that's better than the number one guy. You know, like Aud and Tate last week. It's not necessarily by position. It's just the guy you would expect to be better is often not uh when i mean the tire lock it's a must start yep he came at calf is at this point you know a hail mary in a good situation just because will disley's not there so you know is he going to get more than six targets you know that that's kind of the question because as we've seen you know last week jerron brown scoring two

touchdowns you know so russell wilson is just a different breed this offense is just different you know they don't necessarily feature one guy at the level that we'd like to see so metcalf's going to either have to find the end zone or catch one of those deep balls and you know like we saw week two i think it was we had 80 some odd yards receiving you know that that's kind of the range that he's he's in he's like a poor man's Will Fuller. But a very big poor man's Will Fuller. Would you start Tyler Lockett or DeAndre Hopkins? Hopkins.

I'll go Hopkins over Lockett. You know, Lockett's had a touchdown, or Lockett's. I just said Lockett's. Lockett had a touchdown called back last week that would have sent his numbers into the stratosphere. We wouldn't even be talking about him. And I can't... You did a better job justifying DK Metcalf as a start this week adam than i could have um i'm i'm not sure how the ravens are going to line up against this offense i'm curious to see how they use peters and whether he's a true number two corner opposite marlon humphrey um but i don't think he's

necessarily a great corner and i'm i'm real curious about whether or not D.K. Metcalf ends up being a focal point of the Seahawks offense this week because of his size speed versus their non-Marlon Humphrey cornerbacks. I would hesitate to say that Lockett's going to get Marlon Humphrey the whole game because he does a real good job. Right, I don't know. The way they move him around of avoiding that. I mean, look what he did against the Saints. His best game of the year came against the Saints where they just completely shut down number one wide receivers because he doesn't often get the number one corner the way he lines up.

I'm just interested to see Metcalf's role without Disley because last week he had five targets. He did have four catches for 69 yards. Okay, so that's pretty much going to wrap it up. We're not going to start a tight end, right? For the Seahawks? No.

What about a DST? No, Wilson's a desperation streamer. A DST in this game? I think you can use the Seahawks. I think they can get a couple of turnovers. Remember, they're getting read back on their defensive line, so that'll help. And we've seen Lamar Jackson. Look, what was it?

Two games ago or three games ago with the three interception game against Pittsburgh? So he can get turnover prone. Ravens have six turnovers in their last three games. Five of them are Lamar Jackson. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle blows him out, to be honest with you. I agree. Really? I think it's my favorite pick of the week. It's tough to blow out

Baltimore when they lead the league in time of possession. So we just have to see if they can stop the run. But again, who did they play in week one? They played Miami. No, but they dominated time the run. But again, who did they play in week one? They played Miami. No, but they dominated time of possession for two years. Again, they played a lot of bad teams. Lamar Jackson, as soon as he took over last year,

they were dominating time of possession. I'm not disagreeing with you. But when you factor that in, you've got to look at who they're playing. Seattle's not far behind. No, you don't. Not with Baltimore. They are the king. Heath, am I right on this?

They are the kings of time of possession. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. But again, you got to look at who they play. The A's are on this. You fell in this trap with what was the team? No, because you called me out and I corrected it. That was the Chargers.

I didn't call you out. I was just bringing it up. You appropriately called the stat out, and we corrected it with the Chargers. But with the Ravens, it has been since last year. Oh, no, I agree. I agree. I'm just saying. They kill the clock. Okay. All right. We're

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Now we'll get to Jacksonville at Cincinnati. Your stat of the game. Every quarterback to face the Bengals has scored at least 19 fantasy points in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, but Jimmy Garoppolo is the only one to score more than 21 without a rushing touchdown. Do you think Gardner Minshew will be in that 20-ish range?

Low 20-ish, yes. All right. I'm debating Minshew versus Dak Prescott, which sounds kind of silly. But the Bengals are going to be without their top two corners they're already a bad pass defense to begin with and I don't believe Carlos Dunlap is expected to play so that's their best pass rusher the the matchups don't get any easier than this for Minshew who just had some miscommunications with his receivers last week I think Chark bounces back I think Minshew can play well. But I think Leonard Fournette

might be the number one running back in fantasy this week because the matchup on the ground is even better than it is through the air. Cincinnati is terrible at slowing down the run. You could just stop the terrible. They're just terrible. Well, Heath, isn't it crazy to make Leonard Fournette number one?

No, not at all. I have him ranked number one in both formats. So I agree with Dave. I don't think he might be. I think he is. Yeah. So that's the thing. I mean, teams just don't pass the ball on the Bengals.

They've seen the second fewest pass attempts, the third fewest pass attempts in the NFL, but they allow the fifth highest yards per attempt. And again, they are banged up. As Dave mentioned, they see the second most rush attempts in the NFL. So obviously, Leonard Fournette is set up for a huge game. He's a great DFS play. For Jacksonville, Gardner Minshew. Dave says he's debating Minshew or Dak.

Jamie, who would you start Minshew over? I'd start him over Rodgers. I would start him over Stafford. I'd start him over Rivers. I would start him over Stafford. I'd start him over Rivers. I would start him over Kirk Cousins. You know what? The name that stood out to me the most on that list of who I wouldn't do that with is Cousins. I think Cousins keeps it going against the Lions. That's tomorrow.

Heath, DJ Chark, how do you feel about him this week? The Bengals going into this game, they allow the fourth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. I just think that's almost entirely a volume thing. The thing you love about DJ Chark is you can make one play to make your week. I'm starting DJ Chark. Must start. Without Drake or Patrick in there.

Okay. Yeah, I mean, I won't even give this. There are some impressive wide receiver stats, but it's just different. And they played three games without Drake or Patrick last year. In all three games, the Bengals allowed a touchdown to a wide receiver. Don't start a Jacksonville tight end, I assume. Andy Dalton, any love here for Dalton? 44% owned and no Jalen Ramsey.

No love for him, but I would still start him over Phillip Rivers. Why? I haven't liked Andy Dalton for three weeks. I'm not about to change my mind now. Right. Okay. All right. Well, we're about to talk about Phillip Rivers.

Even with Cordy Glenn coming back. Start or sit Joe Mixon. He is not a top 30 running back this season. I know. It's ugly for him. And I can't put my finger on why he would be removed for Giovanni Bernard late in a game

like he was last week. Because Giovanni Bernard's a better pass catching back. It could be that, but I mean, there was a play last week where Dalton hits Mixon in the flat. There are three Ravens defenders on him. It looks like it's going to be a play where he loses a yard or two. And he squeaks past all three of them and he gains 23 yards.

Like he is a talented football player. He's too patient for the offensive line that he's running behind right now. That's a huge problem. And so I can't really count on him to be a great fantasy running back. He's no better than a low end number two guy until i see proof until we all see proof that the bengals use him more than just a pure between the tackles type of runner they got to use them more toward the edges they've got to use them more in the passing game that would light him up a little bit uh he's touchdown

dependent so low end number two guy and the Jaguars actually give up the fifth most fantasy points to the running backs, and they give up high yards per carry, but a lot of that is Christian McCaffrey and that game against Carolina. We'll see. It's tough to trust Mixon. Would you trust Mixon or Royce Freeman?

Freeman, easily. I'll take Freeman. Mixon or D.D. Westbrook? PPR, I think I would go with Westbrook. Okay. On PPR, I can't do it. I'll stay with Mixon there. But it's, again, another good opportunity for Westbrook to make some plays out of the slot.

He's been in and out of the slot, actually, the last couple of weeks. Against a secondary that's just a total mess. How are we feeling about, Jamie, the Cincinnati wide receivers, Auden Tate and Tyler Boyd? I think it's just hard to get away from Boyd just with the targets that he's typically been getting. He's a safe number two receiver this week because no Ramsey. Whoever's going to get Herndon is going to have a chance for a big game.

AJ Boye has actually played pretty well the last couple of weeks. Tate is a good number three receiver. Last week was impressive, but will he do that consistently? I think they're not far apart. I would take Boye to overtake. I would too. I would imagine Boye will go on Tate, and Tate has a huge size advantage over everybody, but certainly over Boyd.

I'll still take Boyd in the matchup. So, how would you rank the wide receivers in the game? Chark one? Boyd, Chark, Tate. Chark, Wait, Boyd, Tate, Westbrook. Heath, you still like Boyd better? Yeah. Heath?

Yes. Why? Volume. He's got double-digit targets in four out of six games. Andy Dalton's going to throw a lot more passes in this game than Gardner Minshew is. Okay. New England's at the Jets.

It's the end of the game. Philip Dorsett is the only wide receiver to score eight or more non-PPR fantasy points against the Jets with fewer than 10 targets. So the Jets, they did well against Alshon Jeffrey and Michael Gallup. I don't know. It's kind of weird. It almost looks like the Jets have a good defense on paper

because they're, you know, whatever. Tom Brady or Gardner Minshew? I've got Brady one spot ahead of Minshew right now, but it's really, really close. Okay.

I think he's been between 20 and 23 fantasy points in his last three games, yes, at the Jets. He's not great there. They allow the 12th fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks. Yeah, they really haven't been all that bad. And then the Patriots running backs. Dave, take it away. It's going to be Sonny Michel and non-PPR, James White and PPR,

but very close in both formats with both those guys. I think you can start them with some confidence there, provided that Rex Burkhead, unless we hear something specifically saying that Rex Burkhead is not only going to play, but he's going to have a more impactful role in the offense, I think you just go with the two guys that I mentioned. Hopefully Brandon Bolden doesn't steal a touchdown from anybody this week. And yeah, I think they do okay against the Jets.

Would you start a Patriots wide receiver over James White? Edelman for sure. Other than Edelman, sorry. Oh. I could be talking to Dorsett in both. Dorsett, and I guess right now we're assuming Gordon doesn't play, but Dorsett is only 46% owned. Am I crazy or is it just

should be picked up immediately? I think there's like there is reason for concern with Dorsett. We've got one game this year with more than 53 yards receiving and that was a game where he had

four targets. He had nine targets in their most recent game and caught two of them for 10 yards. We're targets. He had nine targets in their most recent game and caught two of them for ten yards. It's like we're talking about in four games. I think that there's a couple things at play here. You have two of those, or one of those

games where it was Antonio Brown on the team. Or two of those games, Antonio Brown's on the team. Right? No, one. Only two. He was on the team for one game. The other game was Buffalo. One game was Brown on the team. One game he left because he was hurt. That was the Washington game. I wasn't counting that one. No, the Buffalo game team for one game. The other game was Buffalo. One game with Brown on the team. One game he left because he was hurt. That was the Washington game. I wasn't counting that one.

No, the Buffalo game was his bad game. They all were bad against Buffalo. But the bigger thing is, if Gordon is out... Yeah, who's going to be that guy on the outside? That's the thing. And it's a great matchup. Right. Well, you know what?

Even if you don't want to start him, I just think he's worth adding at 46% on. I was i was kind of waiting to see um and i missed the bonus because it's another analyst league where he was out there um i have a really loaded receiving core but i was going to drop tyrell williams to pick up dorsett and i i uh somebody beat me to it last night because he ran through waivers and didn't happen and now i regret it because of williams may be missing some time but i i think he's he's someone you just want to see. You know, I'll use the same phrase. It's a discovery game.

You don't have to start him. But if he goes off and Gordon's out for multiple weeks, plus on top of the fact that Gordon's been bad, Tom Brady likes him. And I just want to give this last stat about the Jets against the run. If you're thinking about Michelle and White, the Jets allowed the fifth lowest yards per carry, 3.64 yards per carry to

running backs, but their 18th in fantasy points allowed because they give up the fifth most rushing touchdowns to running backs and the seventh most receiving yards per game. That helps James White. That's just something to keep in mind. With the

Jets, are we starting anyone? Do we like anyone in this game? Start Le'Veon Bell. I want to play him in daily. He was terrible against the Patriots in week three. Yeah, that was without a sense of a passing game. True. It was tough to get behind him there.

But now with Sam Darnold's back, apparently everything's going to be fixed and rosy again for the Jets. You're going to start Le'Veon Bell. I don't mind Crowder in a PPR. I think he can be a very good flex. But would you start Philip Lindsay over Le'Veon Bell? Yes.

Yes. Yeah. Would you start Sonny Michel or James White over Le'Veon Bell? No. No. No. Would you start Jameson Crowder or Philipames white over levy on bell no no no would you start james and crowder

or philip dorsett dorsett i'll take crowder and ppr yeah i'll take crowder and ppr tomorrow we'll probably have an update on josh gordon and we'll kind of put that scenario out there patriots dst their top four stardom chargers at titans stat of the game. Titans allow the seventh or eighth fewest points to quarterbacks, running backs, and wide receivers, but the eighth most points to tight ends. That has been their weakness so far. You guys are really getting away from Phillip Rivers. He's fourth in the NFL in passing yards,

and he also feels like a completely impossible-to-predict quarterback to me just throughout his career. But like recent history, I don't know if matchups really matter that much for Phillip Rivers. He's Rivers. He's fine. Maybe I'm in the minority in thinking. Well, I think like we've talked about 18th or 19th is the very end of the quarterbacks that are fine. Fine is the right word for it.

He might score 17 or 18 fantasy points and finish there. It's a low-paced game, most likely. A low-scoring game without a lot of touchdowns. And his offensive line is playing terrible right now. And there's just no reason to. There's plenty of other quarterbacks to start. I mean, that's the whole thing right there is the offensive line. It's been such a huge problem for them the last two

games, not just the last one. And I think Tennessee's defense can handle it. I think they can definitely impact Rivers, force him to throw quick passes, and then just play a lot of zones so that they don't get beat deep. I don't even know how often... Listen, Mike Williams, for whatever reason, is getting a ton of

deep shots, longer passes. And they're trying to make it work with him, and he still can't find Mike Williams, for whatever reason, is getting a ton of deep shots, longer passes. And they're trying to make it work with him, and he still can't find the end zone. I'm not feeling great about Rivers this week. Guys like Cousins, Daniel Jones, Gardner Minshew, they're all ahead of him. Cool. All right. So how would you compare the Chargers running backs to the Patriots running backs?

I'd rather have the Patriots. Yep. Like almost universally. Maybe Eckler over Mischel and PPR? Last week really freaked people out over Eckler, too. Because he didn't get a lot of catches. And he doesn't get a lot of carries. So what is he now?

He's a pass-catching running back. I'm trying to figure out what they're thinking. They love Melvin Gordon. That's what they're thinking. Well, and Hunter Henry came back last week. Fine, but Melvin Gordon still ran more routes than Austin Eckler. How do you let that happen? Because Melvin Gordon's awesome.

We saw last year in Phillip Rivers throwing to running backs came because they did not have a tight end on the roster that they wanted to throw the football to. I think it could be bad when you have two running backs that are running routes and he's going to throw 20% of his passes to the tight end. You've got Keenan Allen and you've got Mike Allen who's dominating targets. It seems like a bad situation for both Eckler and Green.

And Henry has been, at least last week obviously, was that dump off guy on a lot of the targets that he had from Phillip Rivers. A lot of short stuff. Now, he had some good post-routes downfield, too. And I'm excited about Hunter Henry, and that's why he's a top-five tight end easily. But you're right, Heath. I think that's definitely a factor.

But I don't see how they don't try and get Eckler significantly more involved when he was playing so well before Melvin came back. Is Derek Henry the best running back in this game in both formats? Yes. The answer is yes. Titans should lean on him? Absolutely.

Yeah. Absolutely. They should, and they'll try to. I don't know how dominant he'll be, but I wouldn't be nervous about starting Derrick Henry this week. This could be a two-touchdown game for him. Yep. Okay. There's some stats to back that up,

but I won't give them because we're starting them. And let's talk about some other players. Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. Like, are we confident in them? Confidence is the wrong word, but you're starting Keenan Allen most likely. Didn't he take to social media to complain about his targets? I did not see that.

I think the wheel could squeak. Okay. But it's not an easy matchup. So, like, who are some guys that you'd start over Keenan Allen? Like, Larry Fitzgerald has a great matchup. Michael Gallup. Are these guys you'd start over Keenan Allen? Larry Boyd, Gallup, Char.

I mean, what does Boyd have to do? You're lower on Keenan Allen than I am. Yeah, I'm not starting Boyd over him. They're basically the same type of guy. What does Boyd have to do to lose your confidence, Keenan Allen than I am. Yeah, I'm not starting Boyd over him. They're basically the same type of guy. What does Boyd have to do to lose your confidence, Heath? He's just not playing that well. He's not doing enough. He was so bad last week.

The week before last, he scored 25. Yeah, against Arizona. So most people are going to start Keenan Allen, but there are some guys you could throw in there ahead of him. And Hunter Henry's top five. He's eighth for Heath. Let's go to Tennessee. Is there anyone other than Derrick Henry you're starting?

Okay, no? Great. What about Delaney Walker? Low end option. I'm so unimpressed with what his numbers have been that I would be willing to take a chance on Jason Witten ahead of him. I'd much prefer Witten, but I actually kind of like Witten this week. I'd start Darren Fells over Dling.

Okay, don't start Dling. Yeah, I don't know about that. Tennessee's DST is top 10, and so are the Chargers, actually. Both top 10 DSTs as we expect a low-scoring game. Two games left. Oakland at Green Bay. Stat of the game, Oakland is terrible against wide receivers and tight ends, but actually

good against running backs. If we look at the Packers here, well, our last game is Bill's Dolphins, so I'm going to ask you, would you start Aaron Rodgers or Josh Allen this week? Josh Allen. I currently have Rodgers one spot ahead of Allen, and I'm

very much close to changing it. And where are we on Minshew versus Rodgers? I think, Jamie, you said you might move Minshew ahead? I already have. Okay. Heath and Dave, Minshew and Rodgers? Yeah. Currently Rodgers over Minshew for me.

Yep. Okay. Yeah, I mean, look, he's got nobody to throw to here, but it is a good matchup. What do you think about Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams? Surprisingly, the Raiders' run defense has been solid. Start them both. I would start them both as...

I would consider them both number two fantasy running backs. Yep. Like ahead of the Chargers guys. For sure. Yeah. And the Chiefs. How about the Royce Freemans? I'd start Jones over Freeman, Freeman over Williams.

I think I'd start both Packers over Freeman. How about the Devontae Freemans? Devontae over both. I'd start Devontae over both of them. I'd start the Packers. You hate Devontae Freeman? I don't hate him. Hate's a strong word.

All right, so tell me general thoughts on Green Bay wide receivers. Who are they? Well, that's the thing. If he plays, start him. If he plays, sit him. You know, whatever. If Devontae Adams plays, count your blessings. I think Valdez-Scanling would be the best of the group, just on a hope.

But it may be Lazard. Look, at this point, what you've been saying about Dorsett, it almost applies to Lazard just based on default. You know, like he should be added across the board because if this is a multi-week absence for Allison with the concussion or with Valdez scaling with his knee or ankle, then, you know, the number one receiver for Aaron Rodgers, while it might not be Jordy Nelson or Devontae Adams or Randall Cobb

or, you know, the historically good ones, he's still the number one receiver for Aaron Rodgers and that would make him at least the number one receiver for Aaron Rodgers, while it might not be Jordy Nelson or Devontae Adams or Randall Cobb or the historically good ones, he's still the number one receiver for Aaron Rodgers, and that would make him at least the number three receiver. So he's a tall dude. He's a strong dude. He's not necessarily a fast dude, so he may profile closer to Aud and Tate. And I think he'll end up being a starting outside receiver. And just what you gathered from what you heard last week, Rodgers likes him. Rodgers likes throwing to him. And that's enough for me.

That's enough for me. Evan Washburn or Pete Prisco? Prisco. So Pete, because he was drafted by Jacksonville, Lazard was. And Pete said that he was drafted. I think he was unsigned after the draft. Wasn't he going back and forth on that on the show? Yeah.

I don't think Pete was sure. So I was going by what Pete said. Anyway, he was with the Jaguars and Pete thought that they should have made him move tight end. So, you know, he maybe ended up being when everybody's healthy, sort of a hybrid type player for him, like a Robert Tanyan. Right. All right.

I mean, he may have some, I don't know, longstanding ability to stick around as a member of this receiving core. But I also wouldn't rule out in deeper leagues Kumaro. Because if everybody's out, he'll play more too. And he has a higher ceiling in terms of what he can get to, I think, than Lazard. Lazard was just kind of by default. The bottom line is they don't have a top 25 wide receiver this week.

So what about Jimmy Graham? I know Jimmy Graham has been awful. I can't do it. Don't say that. The matchup's great. Look, yeah, they suck against tight ends. So, somebody's going to have to... Somebody's going to have to get targets.

Graham got an end zone target last week. I know he dropped it. He had two end zone targets. He dropped one, another one. It bounced off his chest. This is a good test in matchup versus player because the matchup is great. The player is not right now.

And you're right, Adam. The targets will be there for him. I don't think it's, you know, they're going to all of a sudden say, okay, he's been struggling. They don't have anybody else. Right. So it's just a matter of what your fantasy roster looks like comparatively to what the Packers decide to do.

So it would not surprise me at all if Jimmy Graham scores and plays well in this game. How much confidence do they have in him? They have a choice. No, they do have a choice. They've got a choice. Like, they still, even last week, he got five targets. That was the third most he's seen in any game this year.

His catches go 3-0-0, 6-3-2. Yeah. It's one game with more than three catches. Okay, and then with the Raiders, we're not starting Carr. It doesn't look like Tyra Williams is going to play, so I can't imagine we're starting a Raiders wide receiver. If there was one that's a flyer, who would it be?

Say Jones. Okay. And Josh Jacobs, do we like him better than Aaron Jones? Yes. Yeah. And that's it. Darren Waller is pretty much a must-start, right?

Oh, God, definitely. Given the tight end position? Better in PPR than non-PPR, but it's not an easy matchup. I believe the Packers allow the fewest fancy points to it. Fifth fewest. Fifth fewest? Yeah. And they have faced Ertz. They've faced Witten.

They've faced Hawkinson. Goddard actually caught a touchdown. But they were good last year against tight ends, and they were good this year. Miami at Buffalo. I already gave this stat, but a running back has scored 12 or more non-PPR points every game against Miami.

So let's keep it going, Frank Gore. Sit all dolphins, start all bills. Got to go bye. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Tell me Josh Allen versus... Oh, he's already out the door. It's fine. Josh Allen is... Okay, we know we have Hold on. Hold on. Tell me Josh Allen versus... He's already out the door.

It's fine. Josh Allen is... We know we have the big six at quarterback. Is Josh Allen in contention for seventh? No. No, he's 10th for me. He's 12th for me. So he's behind like Goff, right?

I'm ahead of Goff. I've got Goff significantly ahead of him. I am erasing what I saw from Jared Goff from my mind last week. Tom Brady or Josh Allen? Last week, it has been erased. I don't even know what happened. I know this week he plays Atlanta. I'll take the upside with him over Allen.

Brady or Allen? Brady. How much work is Allen going to have to do? Well, he runs. We've talked about this before. I think we've talked about it this week with Josh Allen. I don't know how much work Tom Brady's going to have to do. With all that said, the Dolphins do allow the most fantasy points

to running backs and quarterbacks. Yeah. Okay. So that's it. Josh Allen's kind of a running back. Oh, John Brown. John Brown. I like him this week.

Start him. The Dolphinsins secondary is terrible. They can't put a pass rush on the quarterback. But he's top what? I think he can make a big play or two. He's top what? 15. 25.

Cole Beasley sleeper? 15? Woo! Is Cole Beasley a sleeper this week? Yes. In PPR, yeah. Wouldn't use him in non-PPR. Lazard or Beasley?

I think I'll go with Lazard. I'll go with Beasley in PPR as long as MBS plays. Okay, and then Dawson Knox. Dave and Jamie have him top 14. Heath has him outside the top 20. I like his potential long-term. If I had to say that there's a sleeper tight end that everybody should

put on their team, he might be it. But a lot of people don't have the roster space to go and add Dawson Knox and wait for something to happen. It could, it could be this week, but I'm, uh,

I'm, I'm excited about him long-term that he could develop into something. I'm just going to sing the punch out music. But it sounds like, nah, nah, nah, nah,

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nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.