Fantasy Football Today - 10/19: Mailbag (Recorded Fri.) (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 19, 2019First the news! We discuss what to expect from Latavius Murray and update you on Patrick Mahomes and Ben tells you why Allen Lazard has potential. Then we've got your Apple Podcasts questions (12:14),... Fantasy Regulators (23:00), your trade questions via email (31:00) and Start or Sit questions (43:00) for Fantasy Football Week 7. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right, everybody, welcome to the show on Saturday.
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So, Ben, I haven't spoken to you since you ignored my text on Thursday night.
I hope your kneecaps are in place.
How are your kneecaps after seeing i thought that was like a betting
joke but uh i'm guessing that's a joke my kneecaps are in place yeah he texted me right when i was
writing a reaction while still trying to watch the game to a certain degree it was not a fun game to
watch uh i watched it at home then after i got home from the stupid yankees game. It was awful, really, in so many ways.
One of the worst games I've ever seen
because it was a blowout.
The Broncos stunk.
The best quarterback in football got hurt.
Almost everyone's fantasy value went down.
Yeah, and I was playing a ton of those guys.
I played Royce Freeman in a few leagues
where I had buys.
I played Cortland Sutton everywhere.
You can't feel too bad about those two guys, right?
Right.
They weren't horrible, but the game situation really limited their upside.
They were fine.
And then I had a lot of Chiefs as well.
I had Mahomes in a league.
I had to play Damian Williams in some spots, which I'm going to stop doing that.
Yeah, yeah.
It was not a good game all the way around.
I don't feel too bad for you since I had to start Joe Flacco in a league.
But let's get to – yeah, I know. It was not a good game all the way around. I don't feel too bad for you since I had to start Joe Flacco in a league.
But let's get to – yeah, I know.
And it was like a 12-team league. He just gave up.
I mean, this is the worst thing you can say about a player,
and I don't want to spark some big controversy,
but he looked like he stopped playing.
He just was falling down to take those sacks,
checking down underneath, even just throwing checkdowns to that one to Phillip Lindsey.
Just got him absolutely blown up.
It was completely covered.
There was no reason to throw that check down,
but it's like he just wanted to get rid of the ball at that point.
Maybe. He got sacked so many times that, you know, just rough.
Okay, so, and then we haven't mentioned the fake punt.
Okay, Broncos, you were terrible.
So let's do some news and notes, and then we'll read your questions.
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So before we get into the Mahomes stuff,
players have shown openness to a 17-game regular season schedule,
according to ESPN.
I think they should ask football writers and fantasy analysts
and stuff like that because it affects us too.
I think they should do a universal bye for every team
so we as analysts can have a bye throughout the season.
I just think that I don't want it.
I don't want it.
Yeah, and it's all, I mean, like what I just suggested,
they would never do that, obviously.
They would do two byes before they would do that,
and if they ever did do two by two buys they would still have games every weekend because it's you know every weekend you can
continue to right rack up the rating rack up the revenue an mri on mahomes's knee was a best case
scenario according to espn we're hearing three weeks that would be green bay minnesota and at
tennessee he'd come back for at the chargers and then a bye. So you pretty much either have three weeks out or five weeks out at this point
because if he doesn't make it back in four weeks, then he's got a bye.
And then his final four fantasy games are Oakland at New England,
Denver at Chicago, and then week 17 is the Chargers.
It's a tough schedule in that fantasy postseason,
assuming the Broncos don't just fold and trade everybody, you know, facing them in week 15,
at the Bears in week 16, not to mention the Patriots in week 14.
We talked about it on the show Wednesday.
We don't really care about Mahomes' schedule, but, you know, whatever.
I guess in the short term, Ben, how do you feel about the next three weeks
for every chief?
I mean, I think it's obviously a massive a massive impact you don't
have a 5 000 yard pass or quarterbacking the offense anymore but i still think matt matt
moore is a reasonably decent backup as far as backups go i think annie reed is a creative
enough play caller and a smart enough play caller that they'll still find ways to be productive
offensively he's been productive with um some pretty subpar quarterbacks throughout his career
he's always been a pretty good offensive mind and they have plenty of skill position talent and we
saw the touchdown to tyree kill last week you know more didn't really have to do a lot of that they
they they are i guess yesterday or two days ago since we're talking on saturday they ran they ran
hill across the formation on a drag.
They ran all the receivers on the right side of the field across the field.
And I don't know if it was designed for Hill to cut up field.
Troy Aikman didn't think so.
I think maybe they probably discussed that.
Definitely the play design was designed to clear out that side of the field
so that even if Hill catches the crosser, he can turn up the sideline
and there's no one in front of him.
And he just turned up before the throw even
and more lobbed it over the defender's head.
But that kind of a play, that's not a very difficult play for the quarterback to make.
It's a well-designed play and then it utilizes Tyreek Hill's natural ability.
That kind of stuff can still be productive in this offense with Matt Moore under center.
I still think you start Tyreek Hill.
I still think you start Travis Kelsey.
But you can't start Demarcus Robinson or Meikle Hardman or those guys.
And you're going to have a hard time starting the running backs.
Yeah.
I have a don't own Hart Hardman and Robinson.
It's time to drop them.
I think what we're seeing with we've had,
this is the fourth high profile quarterback injury already.
We've had breeze cam and Roethlisberger.
So what lessons are,
and you had luck retire because of injuries,
and you had...
Yeah, that's true.
You had Nick Foles go down.
I mean, not that he's like super high profile,
and we have gotten Gardner Minshew out of that.
And Ben, this is why...
I think this is part of the reason why
I was drafting quarterbacks in round two
in the draft that we did on Monday,
or on Wednesday, pardon me.
You know, like, it's just not as good of a position.
Yeah, if Breeze and Roethlisberger and Cam were healthy,
then there wouldn't be as much separation from the top to the bot,
to the top to the streamers, to the top to the low-end number ones.
And luck is obviously out.
But there's a vacuum there,
and that's why the guys that are consistently great every week.
I didn't put Matt Ryan in my top 24, but I love Matt Ryan.
The setup for him to have just a massive season.
I love Matt Ryan.
He could have more impact than Kerryon Johnson.
Obviously, he's going to score more fantasy points,
but I just mean more value,
helping you win more than these guys.
That's why I have a different take
on the quarterback position.
Obviously, it's even more different now.
Because you projected six high profile injuries.
No,
no.
I I'm saying,
cause I have a different perspective on it now than I did preseason.
And obviously this was before the Mahomes injury.
He was one of the guys I took in the second round,
but I'm just saying like quarterback is not good.
We've had such major injuries that are impacting the position.
And I think that may have been lost on us
a little bit.
You know, just the difference
between the teams that have
a good fantasy quarterback
and the ones that don't.
It's just a huge difference.
And it's just a shallower position
than it used to be.
That's definitely the landscape we're in now.
I agree.
Yeah.
All right.
More news and notes.
Thank you for letting me go
on that little diatribe. Alvin Kamara's out camara's out being on diatribes all the time
well let is kind of an interesting word alvin camara's out and jared cook is out as well
this should be a low scoring game i think uh how do you feel about latavius murray
uh i mean on the road as an underdog against the Bears, but a lot of work probably in line,
you know, he'll be in line for. So he's a boring flex RB2, depending on, you know,
if you have guys on buys. I want to do an exercise. I'm going to let you talk. I'm
going to look something up here. I want to find out how many running backs have reached that benchmark that we talked about against the Bears.
So that would be in non-PPR, 8.8 fantasy points.
That was the average of the number 24 running back in the first six weeks.
And in PPR, 11.3 fantasy points.
So you can talk about more stuff.
I'm going to see how many running backs have reached that top 24 average
against the bears.
I know Josh Jacobs did.
I think maybe Royce Freeman did.
And that might be a Dalvin cook did.
So I'll,
I'll see.
Devante Adams is out.
The other two wide receivers didn't practice.
Amari Cooper is expected to play.
Talk to me about Amari Cooper.
Talk to me about the packers wide receivers
and anything else injury related yeah i mean i'll i'll talk about the packers wide receivers for
a while here i mean alan lazard or i don't even know how to say his name but he was a really
really underrated prospect from iowa state how to i talk about the age-adjusted
production stuff with prospect uh analysis a little bit and have been since the preseason.
It's a really intelligent way to look at wide receivers.
It predicts production very well.
Lazard had a good breakout age, meaning he was productive young in college and was pretty much good throughout his four years of college.
He dropped off a little bit as a senior.
He went undrafted, bounced around a little.
But I always thought he was kind of an underrated prospect,
and now he gets an opportunity, and he's got a lot of things going for him.
Almost every receiver ahead of him is injured.
Aaron Rodgers clearly likes him, and the postgame press conference
had a lot of positive things to say about him, has that good profile,
and was very productive in the limited time that he got on Monday night,
scored a touchdown that put them in position to win that game.
I'm totally fine using him.
I wrote him up as a DFS play this week.
I think he might be a pretty popular DFS play
if some of these receivers are out.
He's a really interesting option in deeper leagues as well
if you have buys and he's somebody that you picked up on waivers.
And I think he could stick even.
I mean, like, Jeronimo Allison's not that good my mark was valid the scaling has struggled a little bit
yeah yeah i think they've blown their auditions right i mean there's some potential for for
lazard to to actually just take over a spot in this offense so i'm pretty interested in him
and yeah uh mario cooper michael gallup the same vertical passing game we should expect from dallas
against philly who is really good against a run and can't defend the receiver.
So I'm really high on the Cowboys receivers this week.
Okay, so looking at all the running backs that the Bears have faced in five games,
they've only played five games,
there have been four running backs who have gotten to that top 24 threshold.
They are Royce Freeman, Chris Thompson,
Dalvin Cook,
and Josh Jacobs.
There are only two running backs who have gotten to the top 12, and that was Josh
Jacobs with a huge game, and Dalvin
Cook, but only in PPR.
So, I guess you look at that
and the amount of touches that Latavius Murray has,
I think it's reasonable to call him a top 20 running
back. I don't think he's going to be a top
10 running back, but then again, what does the Bears run defense look like without Akeem Hicks?
It's a great question.
It didn't look good in London against Jacobs.
That wasn't the only game that he didn't play.
I think it's the only game he outright missed, but he left another one of them early,
and their run defense held up just fine.
So we'll find out. We'll find out.
But a lot of people have Latavius Murray questions.
That's why I've spent a lot of time on
this player.
I think you have it right. He's a high floor,
low ceiling guy.
Interestingly,
Hicks is actually the Bears'
third highest graded
interior defender
at Pro Football Focus, but he's
their highest graded run defender.
But they do still have two pretty balanced pass and run interior defenders
that should play quite a bit.
So I think they're still a very talented defense.
I think they could still hold up fine.
All right, let's rock and roll, Ben.
From Apple Podcasts, from RBD, PPR, Allen Robinson, David Montgomery,
or Devin Singletary?
I'm going to take Allen Robinson in PPR.
I just think he's a legitimate number one.
Okay, but he's facing a team.
I think Dave said the last three number one wide receivers to face the Saints
have combined for 60 yards or something like that, like right around there.
That's Amari Cooper, Mike Evans, and I keep forgetting the third one.
Yeah.
Good ones.
No, no, I agree.
I think Robinson's more of a ceiling play.
David Montgomery's probably the safer floor play.
Devon Singletary, I don't really know what to expect from.
I want to use him against Miami,
but I don't think they're going to run him out a bunch.
Let's talk about him.
Because I answered a lot of emails on my sad train ride home
from Yankee Stadium last
night. And so many
questions about Devin Singletary, one of the most
asked about guys right now.
So, I don't know
what to say with Singletary. I understand he's got
the Dolphins. Maybe he gets to eight
carries and he finds a way to score. Maybe he catches
the ball. I don't know. But I've mostly
been saying no on
Singletary. So, I think I'm lower on him than the other guys are. Where saying no on singletary so i think i'm lower on
him than than the other guys are where are you on i think that's fine i mean i we i think we should
feel really confident the bills are gonna easily win this game frankly i mean uh we know that
dolphins aren't good eventually some team's gonna lay an egg against the dolphins but this is a game
where the dolphins are going on the road up to Buffalo.
They're starting Fitzpatrick.
Maybe that gives them a little bit of jolt.
But the Bills are really good defensively.
I think they're going to control this game.
I think Gore's going to be their lead back because they're not going to really need to press too much.
And I don't think they're going to force Singletary into too many snaps.
It's kind of the bad thing.
But he is a big play kind of waiting to happen.
So he's a guy that I think has a little bit of upside, but he's probably not someone that I want to trust.
All right, so we've kind of talked about Latavius Murray and Devin Singletary.
Those are two of the hot topic players this week.
So that should help set us up for the rest of the show.
This is from John from a town near Ann Arbor.
Cousins, oh, two quick questions for Cousins, Hoyer, Cook, and Stanton.
Those are Michigan State quarterbacks.
We get that like all the time for some reason.
Derek Henry or Tevin Coleman, half PPR?
Oh, man, I don't really like Derek Henry,
and I do like Tevin Coleman,
so I want to lean towards Coleman,
but I think probably the answer is Henry.
Okay.
Because they're at home,
and they're home favorites as opposed to...
Coleman is a road favorite.
Look, I mean, they're big favorites on the road,
so he probably should still get plenty of work.
But sometimes teams just kind of lay eggs on the road.
They're playing Washington.
I think Coleman's a totally fine play, but you probably need to –
I don't know.
I'll say Tevin Coleman.
That's probably who I would play.
He talked himself into it.
All right.
And the other question is,
James White, Austin Eckler, McLovin,
or DJ Chark at Flex, half PPR?
Yeah, don't love the matchup for not McLovin.
Why are we calling him that?
He wrote McLovin.
He wrote that.
I didn't say that.
Yeah, I know.
I would have done it anyway.
I mean, you got the listeners
just buying in um i in half point ppr it's interesting typically that favors running
backs right but for james white and austin eckler it's actually more of a knock to them than a
receiver like dj char because they're so dependent on receptions for a high floor in ppr leagues
they're not huge yardage guys unless they break something but sharks sharks not a guy that's
necessarily dependent on receptions he's been getting a lot of end zone targets a lot of
downfield targets he can rack up yards in big plays like his matchup with the bangles i'm going
to go with shark over those two running backs that uh should catch some passes but probably
have a little bit lower ceilings in half ppr and in standard also chris from las vegas is in a ppr
league golden tate or John Brown?
John Brown, if he plays,
I definitely think he'll want to play here.
From Ross, just swung a deal.
I got Le'Veon Bell for Hunter Henry and Tevin Coleman.
I already have Kelsey.
Well, Kelsey obviously downgraded a little bit now.
Would you give up Henry and Coleman for Le'Veon?
Yeah, that's an A.
We're going to grade that an A.
I mean, I've talked about Le'Veon
being a really good buy low right now,
and I like Coleman too,
but if you have two good viable tight ends,
I don't think Kelsey's going to have no value.
You can keep starting him.
You trade one of those tight ends
and position him strength,
and you turn Tevin Coleman into Le'Veon Bell,
that's an A trade for sure.
From Weaver,
would you trade Aaron Jones and Will Fuller
for Leonard Fournette in half PPR?
I would not.
I really like Fournette.
He's another guy, though, that their offense can struggle at times.
I mean, they've been better with Gardner Minshew, but he's shown a little bit of a low floor.
He's been better in PPR with that floor because he catches a lot of passes.
I really like his dual threat ability.
That gets knocked down a little bit in half PPR.
Bax, as you get away from PPR towards standard,
you want Bax to score a lot of touchdowns
and rack up a lot of yards.
Fournette sometimes doesn't rack up a lot of yards
and his offense sometimes doesn't score a lot.
So he's not as good.
I do really like his workload.
I do like him, but I don't think the gap
between him and Aaron Jones is as wide in half PPR
and Will Fuller's not a guy that you're just giving away. So I don't think the gap between him and Aaron Jones is as wide in half PPR,
and Will Fuller's not a guy that you're just giving away, so I wouldn't do this trade.
DJ from the Show Me State.
I have Waller.
I traded Michelle, Derrick Henry, and McLaurin for Saquon Barkley.
It's another A. I mean, another guy who has multiple tight ends was able to use one to move up from Sonny Michelle to Saquon,
and yeah, he also had to give in McLovin.
But I'm obviously
going to be willing to give that up with
Sonny Michel to get to Saquon, who's back
this week. You're obviously also giving up the
McLovin F1 fight because you
just said McLovin, which was great.
From Beetle Pink,
we have another email about that later in the show, by the way.
A team about to be 0-6
was trading Kyler Murray and Emmanuel Sanders
for Baker Mayfield.
Yikes. Gave up Murray and Sanders for Baker Mayfield.
About to be 0-6.
The team giving Baker immediately starts
trashing me via text saying
I run a stupid league and he's quitting.
I said, sorry he feels that way
and said we can put it up for a vote.
Should I have even done that? Oh, i'm assuming he vetoed it and then this guy got mad that was supposed to be
giving up baker is that what happened here i'm guessing yeah i think so so he was giving up
baker mayfield for murray and emmanuel sanders what's that why would would anyone give up Murray? I can't understand how somebody would want to make that trade,
but I also think...
Look, I'm very much team don't veto.
0-6 teams making really lopsided trades
that don't benefit them at all,
I have a really hard time with.
I mean, that's the kind of spot where I can see a veto.
When you're completely out of it
and you're just giving up good players
as a last-ditch effort, I could totally see this see this veto i mean you could have put it up for vote you could not i
don't know why the guy yeah i don't know it's a tough spot i can see i can see why someone who
makes a good trade might be mad and want to quit the league but i don't know what are your thoughts
no that trade needs to be vetoed it 100 needs to be vetoed. It 100% needs to be vetoed. That cannot go through. That is upsetting the balance of the league. It is a stupid trade for an Owen,
for an Owen 16.
Yeah.
I think there's just no justification for it.
None.
Okay.
Let's fire through some quick Apple podcast questions here.
Again,
thank you so much for,
for helping us out with this.
This is from your pal.
Al,
would you trade Melvin Gordonordon for davante adams
yes i would trade yeah i would acquire adams in that deal true it and pete i want to say thank
you for your comment but your questions are just a little too long it will not be able to get to it
but i thank you for doing that uh you can feel free to email it and i'll try to respond to it. From the call records,
Breeze, Amari Cooper, and
Cohen. Giving them up. Breeze, Cooper,
and Cohen getting James Conner and Calvin
Ridley.
Oh, yeah. I like
that. PPR. Yeah.
Yeah, that's good. Good job.
From Xanthix,
Josh Allen or Kyler Murray?
Four point for passing touchdown.
I'll take Kyler Murray.
Pretty easily.
From Cheetos, I have a trade that could possibly be done.
I give up the Patriots DST.
I get Lamar Jackson.
I already have Dak as my quarterback.
Four point per passing touchdown lead.
This is such a philosophical question. Yes, you should be trading away the patriots d
but also there's never really a reason to carry two quarterbacks for me or to trade
four quarterbacks sure there is yeah i know you think this but trading for lamar miller is uh
is is a good move uh in a vacuum but you already have dac so like what are you going to do with
two quarterbacks trade You trade one.
You get a player more valuable than the Patriots' DST.
Sure.
If you think you can make a second trade, then I would do this trade.
But you could also potentially try to find a different trade with a DST.
And I still think the Patriots are going to be good.
I don't think they're going to be nearly as good as they've been,
but I think I'd rather just stick with a good dst and one good quarterback than
load up with two good quarterbacks from mets moot rats excuse me mets ruined my life that's a very
funny i gotta take that back i you're trading for lamar jackson there's so much but he's so
much better than the patriots dst that's silly yeah yeah do it do it uh mets ruined my life i need help with by nato for my team montgomery or jordan howard ppr
oh montgomery and my receivers are hurt or on by so pick one to pick up this week
nelson agalor dante pettis jacoby myers marquise goodwin or taylor gabriel
i'm gonna go dante pettis i think with debo Samuel potentially out, Pettis' role has really risen in the two weeks since the bye.
He's in a pretty good spot.
Yeah, we like Pettis to pick up and stash at the very least.
And actually, Jacoby Myers is my second favorite name on that list.
He's worth mentioning.
I'm starting him in a league where I'm desperate.
But, you know, I think he could get you like eight,
no, like 10 PPR points or something
and be a number three receiver.
Something like that.
Yeah, maybe.
I can see it.
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And we have the segment that everyone's been waiting for. Let's regulate, baby.
This is Brent in Minnesota.
I need a quarterback bad,
so I traded Devontae Adams for Kyler Murray and Kenny Galladay
with the league commissioner.
The trade was about to go through, but in the 11th hour,
the commissioner's starting quarterback was hurt on Thursday Night Football.
Damn it. Mahomes. And he vetoed the trade. The 11th hour, the commissioner's starting quarterback was hurt on Thursday night football.
Damn it.
Mahomes.
And he vetoed the trade.
So the commissioner was about to give up Kyler Murray and Galladay to get Adams,
and then Mahomes got hurt and he vetoed the trade.
I called BS.
Was I in the wrong?
Or is this abuse of power?
Total abuse of power.
You can't, I mean, you can't have a commissioner just vetoing his own trade because he no longer wants to do it.
If you have trades that are accepted and they've been accepted and you have a waiting period,
I have always been of the mind that somebody can't, even if something happens, somebody can't not want to do it anymore just because it hasn't officially gone through.
It's already accepted.
I feel like the trade is finalized when it's accepted and that is like official the only i don't even know why
there's a waiting period to be honest i think the trade should go through immediately yeah agreed
um but if there is a waiting period the trade has been accepted and agreed upon you can't change
your mind as one of the two parties because new information comes out and you definitely can't do
it when you're the commissioner and veto your own trade without at least bringing it up to the league
and having some kind of league vote where you're kind of recusing yourself
from ruling on your own situation.
I emailed Brent and I said, this is bad.
I'm going to destroy your commissioner on the show.
So that was the whole point.
We're destroying your commissioner.
He sucks.
Unless he listens to the show.
If he listens to our show. If he listens to our show
then he's a great guy
who just made a mistake.
But that has been
But needs to learn from his mistake.
Yes, he does need to learn.
And if Heath was here
he would
you'd probably say
that he needs to give up
being commissioner.
No, he would kick him out of the league.
You know that.
Yeah.
Alright, this is from Matt
in salty SoCal.
Henry Envy?
This year, our league implemented an IR bench spot for the first time.
Last week, an owner picked up Hunter Henry off waivers on Wednesday
while he was still listed as injured, questionable,
and placed Henry in the IR slot.
The owner clearly did not check his roster before game time as Hunter Henry was activated but remained in the IR slot. The owner clearly did not check his roster before game time as Hunter Henry
was activated,
but remained in the IR slot.
The owner ended up having Delaney Walker putting up a dud in his lineup while
Hunter Henry put up big points in the IR slot.
Of course,
Henry became a hot waiver wire option and everyone noticed that he had
remained in the owner's IR slot despite being activated and several owners
demanded that the Henry owner should, uh, that Henry should have been auto dropped and that the owner's IR slot despite being activated, and several owners demanded that Henry should have been auto-dropped
and that the owner should immediately have to voluntarily drop him
for leaving him in the IR spot.
This mistake was clearly not intentional.
Should the owner be forced to drop Hunter Henry,
or was this just an honest mistake that Henry-hungry owners are trying to exploit.
Yeah, no, this is clearly exploitation attempt from the other owners, right?
I mean, they just want Hunter Henry right now.
This guy made the right move.
He picked him up.
He stashed him.
Obviously should not have left him in his IR spot, but he's not the guy he would have cut.
He would have cut someone else. He probably, you know, knowing what little we he's not the guy he would have cut he would have cut someone else
he probably would you know knowing what little we know about his roster he would have cut delaney
walker before henry and activated henry and played him probably um you don't you don't force him to
cut hunter henry because of this and it sounds like you got a lot of conniving uh you know other
owners in the league that just really want to try to get their hands on him.
Let's come up with a policy.
If you leave someone in your IR slot, accidental or not, what happens?
I say...
Well, even if you have to cut somebody, if they're saying,
okay, well, then you carried too many people through the week,
you have to cut somebody, he should be able to pick who he cuts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I think that you could do something like, right if this happens again or going forward if you leave
someone in your ir slot and he's active you lose the fantasy points of one spot on your starting
lineup sure like if it was i think that's that's a that's a a punishment we've talked about this
year and i think it's a pretty solid one can It can't be quarterback, though. It can't be your highest scoring player.
It's got to be your median player, your exact
middle player. How about your
flex? No, how about your highest
scoring running back wide receiver
tight end?
Well, that could be like a 50-point game. It could be.
Hey, be responsible. Check your lineup.
Alright.
Do you support this?
I don't support the highest one one i like the the median answer
the second highest somebody right in the middle yeah or the second highest the second highest
one would work for me okay well that has been regulated one more fantasy regulators are busy
today sam in austin regulators i'm the commissioner of a league that consists mostly of my extended
family, and it's very casual.
I proposed a trade to my
cousin and followed up to get her thoughts on
the trade. She explained that her
hu-
husband. Husband, damn it.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Trying to line it up with the
uh and husband there.
Missed it.
She explained that her husband, the owner of a different team in the same league,
has been managing her team this year and that I should talk to him about the trade.
Obviously, one person should not be permitted to manage two teams,
but no one had noticed unusual activity or questionable behavior
from either of the teams owned by my cousin's husband.
Should I step in
and stop this because there's a potential conflict of interest or should i leave it
alone given that it's a casual family league and there hasn't been any nefarious behavior so far
um kick him out of the family yeah i think no probably you you force through a divorce. No, I'm just kidding.
Yeah, I think that's you don't want that to happen.
But if it's a really casually, I mean, I.
Fantasy football is different at different levels, obviously.
And if people are just playing in a completely casual league, I don't have like a serious issue with things being a little bit looser.
I don't think someone should be owning two teams on,
on or managing two teams on the same roster though,
or in the same league.
No,
I agree.
I think you probably like say something kind of with like a LOL.
I,
Hey,
don't be managing her team.
You know,
like you kind of bring it up in like a jokey way,
but you just sort of let it slide.
But if they,
if they complete any trades together though,
you have to veto those.
Those can't happen.
Okay, good stuff.
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
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Trades from our friends, our listeners
from around the globe.
From Kyle, give up T.Y. Hilton and Michael
Gallup. Hilton and Gallup.
Get McLaurin and
Fuller.
Wow.
I'm going to take Hilton and
Gallup, I think.
It's a pretty even trade. All those guys are pretty much in the same area,
but McLaurin has a little bit of a difficult schedule coming up.
I really like Fuller,
but I think Hilton's probably still the best player in that trade,
and I like Gallup too.
I mean, I like all...
There's four good receivers.
I don't like the trade.
It's a D for me.
I have no conviction about it.
I like all those guys.
Okay, from Jamie.
I trade Boyd and Tevin Coleman.
I get Devante Adams PPR.
It kind of depends on the league.
Because Adams is still the best player in this.
If it's a shallower league,
you always want to consolidate to elite talent.
But Boyd and Coleman is a little bit of an overpay for adams boyd's very good i've mentioned before i
would still have him he had a bad week last week but i would have him at the like low end wide
receiver one or high end wide receiver two range i think he's going to be tons of volume what's that
tyler boyd see that's what i said week, and then he had a really down week.
I don't necessarily think I'm just going to give
up on that because of one down week.
No, I just think it's not one down
week. It's the whole season.
He hasn't been good enough.
He doesn't score touchdowns. He had a
very high
touchdown rate last year, considering
the red zone targets he got.
Alright, so a couple things. One, there's always going to be some receiver in the league who doesn't score enough touchdowns.
And we see it every year.
He doesn't have one green zone target.
It always regresses.
But he doesn't have one green zone target.
What's that?
He doesn't have one target in the green zone.
Forget the magenta zone.
He doesn't even have a green zone target.
Same thing was true of Julio Jones last year, and then he finished with a ton of
touchdowns. It was true of Adam Thielen at one point, and he started
scoring a ton of touchdowns. Except Tyler Boyd
is not Adam Thielen, and he's not
Julio Jones. He's averaging
10 targets per game. He is those guys.
Well, what's going to happen when A.J. Green
gets back? I mean, he might be
better. He was better with A.J. Green last year
than when A.J. Green was out. He's very good.
He was better with A.J. Green last year than when A.J. Green was out. He's very good. He was better with A.J. Green, but at the same time,
Andy Dalton got hurt in a lot of the games without A.J. Green.
So there weren't that many games of him with Dalton without A.J. Green last year,
so it was kind of a tough comparison to make because Jeff Driscoll drove his numbers down.
I mean, look, I like Tyler Boyd.
I'm fine with calling him a buy low, but you basically just put him in the top 15.
In full PPR, I think he's like,
he's probably more in the high wide receiver two range
than the low wide receiver one range,
but I think he's absolutely in that top 15 discussion.
All right.
Let's see with this.
I don't have a name on this one,
but this is a tricky one.
What do you think about a trade of Matt Ryan for Patrick Mahomes?
I'm 5-1. I have Winston on my bench.
The team who has Mahomes is 2-4.
Here's the tricky part.
My wife is the team that owns Mahomes.
So this has to be a fair trade
so others don't think we're trying to cheat or anything.
In my eyes, this seems fair for both teams,
and she thinks so too,
but she's only played fantasy football for two seasons now.
So his wife has my homes.
He'd be giving her Matt Ryan and getting my homes.
And this is after knowing that my home is injured.
And so the two and four team is giving up my homes because they need
someone to be productive for the next few weeks.
The five and one team will bench my homes for the next few weeks, the 5-1 team will bench Mahomes
for the next few weeks. That's a totally fair
and reasonable trade.
In fact, you're losing this trade.
In my opinion,
I'd definitely rather
have Ryan rest of the season with the injury now.
5-1 is not
locked into the playoffs.
Matt Ryan
is
in that tier, in my opinion. Awful defense. locked into the playoffs. Yeah, and Matt Ryan is...
He's in that tier, in my opinion.
Bad, awful defense.
Since the injuries on
defense, he's had 28 or
more fantasy points in three of his last four
games. He's thrown for 300
yards every single week. You know what
dragged down his production the first few weeks?
Seven interceptions in the first three games. He had
like six all of last year or something. So, oh, he had six interceptions in the first three games. He had like six all of last year or something.
So, oh, he had six interceptions in his first three games.
He had like five all of last year, whatever it was.
He's not throwing interceptions anymore.
Like Matt Ryan is an elite fantasy quarterback in my opinion.
And it wouldn't surprise me if he and Mahomes hadn't even gotten injured.
It wouldn't surprise me if Ryan was better than Mahomes.
So, like, I wouldn't do that trade personally, but it is totally fair.
I mean, I think you're helping your wife too much, but that's fine.
Whatever.
Ben, you cool with what I just said there?
Yeah.
Actually, I agree.
I agree.
You talked me into it.
I'd rather have Matt Ryan.
I mean, you know you're missing at least three games from Mahomes.
Yes, you'll get him for the playoffs, but he also has his bye coming up.
I don't think Atlanta's had their bye yet either, so I guess Ryan has his as well.
But I agree with you.
You're getting all those extra games out of a quarterback who's not that far behind Mahomes, probably.
Sure.
I guess if you want to be a little bit worried about him,
Ryan's schedule gets kind of tough toward the end of the year,
but I'm not really worried about it.
Okay, Kyle in an Ohio city along Lake Erie that isn't Cleveland.
I have no idea.
I gave up Miles Sanders and DeeDee Westbrook for Allen Robinson.
I like that.
Oh, man.
I was calling Sanders a buy low earlier this year.
I kind of have a little egg on my face about that.
But I still think he's going to be productive. He's been productive. He's getting targets. He's getting air yards.
He's actually leading all running backs in the NFL in air yards because they're actually throwing him the ball down the field.
That's all really high-valuable stuff.
If he gets more of the actual snaps and gets more of the traditional running back work and gets
carries and goal line
work, he could be an absolute star.
But it doesn't look like we're
trending that way. He's not a guy
I want to give up. I do think Allen Robinson is a
huge upgrade from D.D.
Westbrook. So I think
it's a pretty close deal.
It's a B for me, but alright. Sounds more
like a C plus for Ben. From Jack, B for me, but all right. It sounds more like a C-plus for Ben.
From Jack, standard scoring league,
should I trade Deshaun Watson for Mark Ingram or Marlon Mack
to the Mahomes owner?
I'm assuming you have another quarterback option.
I'd do it.
I mean, I don't like Mark Ingram or Marlon Mack,
but I would trade Watson for Ingram.
I like them a lot.
In a standard scoring league, I like Mack a ton.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, right.
In a PPR league, it's a tough call.
But in a non-PPR league, I think if you can get Marlon Mack, you do it.
Let's see.
We got two questions from Eli.
Do I start Frank Gore or James White at Flex?
This is PPR.
Frank Gore or James White?
They couldn't be more
different players either.
I don't play Frank Gore
so I'm going to say James White.
Yeah, I mean,
White is really safe, especially
with Josh Gordon out. They're going to throw the ball.
Gore is safe too. Against Miami, he's going to get
at least like, I mean, Singletary's back, right? But he's going to get at least 10 to 12 carries. He's going to throw the ball. But Gore's safe too. Against Miami, he's going to get at least like... I mean, Singletary's back.
Right? But he's going to get at least 10 to 12
carries. He's going to get at least 50 rushing
yards. But that could be it. He could just get five points.
Yeah, if he doesn't score, you're in trouble.
I think I'd start White.
Yeah, that was my
line of thinking. White's due for some touchdowns.
He had one overturn.
He came up a half a yard short last week.
Second question from Eli.
He needs some wide receivers. Would you trade Alvin Kamara to get Le'Veon Bell, Jarvis Landry,
and Michael Gallup? Yeah. I think Le'Veon Bell is not... You still have to have Kamara ahead of
Bell, but we now know that Kamara is out for this week.
Bell already had his bye,
and I think it's going to be a lot closer to Kamara
than people expect for the rest of the season.
And Landry and Gallup are two very good options
at receiver if you need them.
From Ken, PPR Dynasty League.
I'm in year one of a 12-team PPR Dynasty League,
three receiver leagues with two flex options three receiver leagues, excuse me, with two flex options.
I'm in second place.
I have an offer to trade Chris Godwin.
He just says Freeman.
I don't know which one.
And Duke Johnson
to get Le'Veon Bell, Tyler Lockett,
and David Montgomery.
So I give up Godwin, Freeman, and Duke Johnson
for Le'Veon, Lockett, and Montgomery.
Well, he just says Montgomery. It could be Tyler Montgomery. Freeman, let Duke Johnson for Le'Veon, Lockett, and Montgomery? Well, he just says Montgomery.
It could be Ty Montgomery.
Let's go with first names, guys.
Well, I don't think it's Ty Montgomery, but Freeman I have no idea.
It's probably David Montgomery and it's probably Devontae Freeman,
and I would do it.
I would get Bell, Lockett, and Montgomery.
I don't think Duke Johnson is going to have much value going forward.
I don't believe that Devontae Freeman is going to have consistent value going forward. I don't believe that Devonta Freeman is going to have consistent value going forward.
Godwin, obviously extremely good.
I have said on some other shows that I think if you can get good value for him in trading him,
and I mentioned on our Wednesday show this week that I would trade him four bells straight up,
that you do it.
Bell's very good value for him.
And Lockett's, oh, this is a dynasty league.
I missed that part of the question.
Right, you're giving up Godwin, who's probably the most valuable.
Godwin is the most valuable player for sure in a dynasty format.
But David Montgomery has a little more value if you're talking dynasty.
But man, yeah, that changes things.
I would do it still to get Bell, Lockett, and Montgomery.
I would do it.
I don't know if I would because wide receivers have the longevity.
They're a lot more valuable in dynasty.
Running backs turn over a lot year over year.
Godwin's a really good dynasty player.
It's tough.
Okay.
We run one more trade question here.
Chris in a city in Western Canada.
You're near Western Canada.
Yeah.
So give me a city.
A. B.C.
Vancouver, B.C.
B.C. is not a city.
But you also just said
A.B.C.
I said A.
Good job. Superflex
League. Even crappy quarterbacks
have some value at this point due to buys and injuries.
Give up Beckham, Brita,
and Fitzpatrick.
Beckham, Brita, and Fitzpatrick get James Conner
and Kenyon Drake.
I don't like it.
I don't know how much longer Fitzpatrick
is going to be the quarterback.
Beckham, Brita, and Fitzpatrick get James Conner
and Kenyon Drake.
Yeah, I don't really like it either. I mean, I don't think
Fitzpatrick has that much value, but I don't think Kenyon Drake. Yeah, I don't really like either. I mean, I don't think Fitzpatrick has that much value,
but I don't think Kenyon Drake.
No.
It's pretty close for me, too.
Not a lot of conviction on these,
but I think James Connor is probably the better option than Odell Beckham.
I think Kenyon Drake has the potential to get traded
or wind up in a better spot,
so he has a little bit of latent value in that sense,
but I don't really like his situation in Miami.
Breida's not getting enough.
He's turned into a trap back.
He's not getting enough.
He's got a few more targets since Coleman's been back, but not enough.
So, I mean, it's kind of a toss-up,
and I might just take the Connor side because he's the best value,
or in my opinion, the best asset in the trade.
But it's close, I think, all the way across.
We're going to take a quick break on fantasy football today.
When we come back, we're going to fire through some starter sit.
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This is
from Patrick. Latavius Murray or David Montgomery?
We already went over that. We did. We're going with Latavius. Yeah, we went with Latavius Murray or David Montgomery? We already went over that.
We did. We're going with Latavius.
Yeah, we went with Latavius.
From Matt in Massachusetts. With Marquise Brown
likely out,
I need a second wide receiver.
How about these options?
Darius Slayton, Dante Pettis,
Corey Davis, Jake Kummerow, and
Willie Sneed. Yeah, I'm going with Pettis
again. Similar question earlier, and I took Pettis out of a lineup.
Same thing.
From Ruth, I have Gordon, Eckler, and Hunter Henry
in my 14-team PPR league.
By the rankings alone, I should theoretically start
at least two of these chargers, if not all three of them.
The only person on my bench ranked higher is Darren Waller.
I'm wary of starting two, let alone three chargers
due to fears of a low-scoring game and no touchdowns. Should I
take a chance on Chase
Edmonds or Alan Lazard
instead of Gordon, Eckler, and Hunter
Henry, or should I stick with the Chargers
and or Waller?
I
definitely think the fear is valid
in a road game against the Titans
that the offense could just be bad.
It's not a place where I would want too many eggs in the same basket.
At the same time, I think going down to Chase Edmonds or Alan Lazard is maybe a little too far for the level of player that you'd be sitting.
I'd probably lean towards Waller.
Probably wouldn't want to start both running backs.
I mean, it's a...
I would start both tight ends.
I would start Henry and Waller and then... Yeah, I think I would too. And then maybe Eckler. You'd go Eckler? I don't know. start both running backs. I would start both tight ends. I would start Henry and Waller.
Yeah, I think I would too.
And then maybe Eckler.
I go Gordon.
You can go Eckler.
That's what I would do.
I would do Henry, Waller.
If all the Packers receivers are out, I think you can play Lazard.
Adams is already out.
If Geronimo Allison and MVS are both out,
I think Lazard becomes a solid wide receiver three at least,
and I think he could probably start him.
All right, from Thomas, how would you rank these guys in PPR?
Kenny Galladay, DJ Chark, Michael Gallup, Frank Gore.
The only thing I have a lot of conviction about here
is that Frank Gore is dead last, but I'll go –
I'll take Gallup.
I mean,
I think you have it in the right order for situation neutral,
but Galladay has the worst matchup with the Vikings,
right? So I think I would go Gallup, Chark, Galladay.
Okay.
From
Rob. Hello, Ned,
Maude, Rod, and Todd.
No idea.
Come on! I saw this even and I said Ben better get this.
Heideli Ho?
Neborino?
Oh, it's the Flanders.
Yes.
I was thinking Simpsons right away.
That's interesting.
Who should I start at tight end?
And who should be a flex?
PPR.
I got Ertz, Hunter Henry, and Melvin Gordon.
You should start... Man, i don't really like flexing
tight ends but this kind of feels like a spot where it makes some sense and who should i start
it yeah i agree i would go with the tight ends i think i'm going oh sorry i thought you were
done i think i'm gonna go earths and Gordon. Okay. Who should I start a quarterback between Goff and Kyler Murray?
Kyler.
I really like Kyler's situation this week against the Giants.
This is from Jesse.
Dear 1-2, Mumbles, Handsome Bob, and Archie.
That.
I should know that one.
I feel I'm going to know it. What is it? Rock and Rolla? I've never heard of it. Okay, I don't that one. I feel I'm going to know it.
What is it?
Rock and Rolla?
I've never heard of it.
Okay, I don't.
Yeah.
Well, I guess I'm handsome, Bob.
Trade it up.
A nice looking squad.
And now I have tough decisions every week.
Please rank these guys for standard scoring.
Keenan Allen, Kenny Galladay.
This week.
Just this week.
Keenan Allen, Kenny Galladay, this week, just this week. Keenan Allen, Kenny Galladay,
Sonny Michel, Tevin Coleman.
Man, standard.
I don't play a lot of standard, and I don't
like Sonny Michel, but he's definitely way more valuable
in standard.
I think there's a little bit of risk
because Rex Burkhead could be back this week i
think i might take coleman over michelle um i i'm not as concerned about alan i think alan's gonna
have a really good week this week as kind of a squeaky wheel week when he speaks up like this
and he's done it before he's always tended to get a lot of targets so i'm buying into that i already
talked about galladay having a little bit of a tough matchup, but these are close.
Typically in standard,
you want to lean towards the running backs,
and you have Coleman last here,
and I think I have Coleman second.
Ready?
Allen, Coleman, Michelle, Gallaudet.
What did you say?
Allen, Coleman, Michelle, Gallaudet.
I'm going Allen, Coleman, Gallaudet, Michelle.
Okay.
From Zach in St. Louis,
I need two half PPR.
Calvin Ridley, Robert
Woods, Will Fuller, Michael Gallup.
Those are all really good ones. Impossible. Yeah,
I know. I'm going to sit Woods
because he's been so bad, but
obviously there's a ton of potential there.
I'm going to go with Ridley and
Gallup. If Jalen
Ramsey plays, really like Ridley
because Ramsey will probably follow around Julio,
but man sitting fuller stuff too.
Yeah,
totally.
All right.
Take your pick.
You've got great options.
Zach from Shane PPR league.
Am I crazy to start gore and single and singletary over digs?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
I agree.
Diggs just had a monster game.
I mean, I understand the concern,
but the Lions are legit,
and the Vikings are on the road. They're favored,
but if they do get
behind, they might have to throw again.
We saw Diggs get a ton of air yards. He's their
downfield option. It's not a good matchup against
the Lions, but I think Diggs could definitely hit
for a big play. I wouldn't play both of
the Bills running backs here.
Brian from Baltimore. Love the show,
guys, and Adam, I'm usually on your side, but as far
as nicknames go, you're wrong on this one.
The McLovin nickname sucks and
doesn't translate at all to McLaurin in any
way. A skinny, dorky kid
or a super fast sports car? I work
in D.C. and everyone here calls him F1
and the local sports radio show had McLaurin on last week
and he said he himself F1 over McLovin.
Wow.
You have never been so roasted by...
I don't believe that.
I need proof.
That's really interesting.
You just got torched.
I kind of did.
Anyway, due to buys and injuries, I need some lineup help.
Start two of the following running backs.
I need to drop one so I can pick up a wide receiver.
So start two.
Brita, Singletary, Miles Sanders, and Jamal Williams.
I mean, a bunch of timeshare backs, right?
That's tough.
I think I'll take Brita.
I think he'll get plenty of work in a game that they should lead.
And probably Singletary for the same reason.
And Sanders and Williams are a little tougher to trust.
I like Williams over Singletary.
Yeah.
Because, I don't know, I think by the same logic, right?
I was thinking about their matchup.
They're home favorites against Oakland, and he should...
Yeah, let's go Breida and Williams.
That's what I was thinking.
I would drop Miles
Sanders for
Robbie Anderson.
Although I think I like Beasley better than Anderson
this week.
You want Anderson long-term and I think
you just do the... Yeah,
Anderson's tough against New England. I mean, I don't
expect much out of him. Alright, Ben, here we go. We gotta
finish up. I'm sorry.
From Phillip, would you start Devin Singletary or Golden Tate, half PPR?
I think you got to go Tate.
It's a really good spot with Sterling Shepard out. From Trevor, non-PPR, start three.
Edelman, John Brown, Fitzgerald, and Boyd.
Boyd, Edelman.
I'll go Fitzgerald.
I'll sit Brown here just because I think the Bills will get up
and not have to throw a lot.
From Jonathan.
He could hit, though.
Yeah, that's a tough call.
10-team standard scoring.
Would you trade Devin Singletary for Kyler Murray?
My only other quarterback is Josh Allen.
I don't typically trade for quarterbacks, but I don't like Josh Allen. I don't typically trade for
quarterbacks, but I don't like Josh Allen
and I do really like Kyler Murray's upside the rest
of the way. So if you want to do that, I
will, especially in a 10
team league, I'll endorse it.
Yeah, I like Josh Allen
the next like three weeks. I think he
has favorable matchups, but
overall, I think you'd make that trade.
You upgrade. Let's see, his next three games, Miami, Philadelphia, and Washington.
And you should be able to find similar running backs to Singletary
on the waiver wire in 10-team leagues.
Okay, everybody, thank you so much for listening.
Thanks to Ben Gretsch.
Thank you.
Not at all thank you.
In fact, I hate you to the guy who told me about the McLaurin thing,
but I need that.
That was beautiful.
That was the highlight of the show for me.
Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you Sunday night with the recap.