Fantasy Football Today - 10/29: Waiver Wire - Great Week for Waivers! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 29, 2019

We've got several attractive options on waivers this week and we start the show with our top overall priorities (2:30) as Jaylen Samuels and Mark Walton will headline the list. How much FAAB are we sp...ending here? What's the outlook for James Conner? We also have a number of players with great matchups (8:15) including Gardner Minshew and Jamison Crowder ... We touch on the big news with our thoughts on the Kenyan Drake trade and what it means for everyone in ARI (11:15), Ken Whisenhunt's firing (18:50) and more from around the NFL. Then it's time for our top priorities at QB (24:40) including Minshew and Derek Carr, RB (27:05) including Samuels and Derrius Guice, WRs (29:50) including DeVante Parker and Chris Conley, TE (35:15) including Darren Fells and Jonnu Smith, DST (37:15), Kicker (39:40) and IDP (41:00) ... Quick thoughts on GB-KC (43:30) and MIA-PIT (45:15). How reliable will Jamaal Williams be going forward? Then we take a longer look at the Waiver Wire (46:50) with adds and drops at each position ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Let's hit the waiver wire. Let's go!
Starting point is 00:01:16 Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. Big, big waiver wire night. Huge waiver wire night. I am equal parts excited and kind of nervous, stressed out. I don't want to miss out on some of these players that are on waivers. And obviously, you know, everybody's going to be in on them. So, welcome to the show. It is the Tuesday edition of Fantasy Football Today.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. Guys, please don't trade me today. I don't want to get traded. We wouldn't trade you at all. Nobody's buying you. We just cut you. You cut me? You couldn't even get like a six rider?
Starting point is 00:01:52 You guys are making some pretty weird trade. Maybe the Giants will give us some future draft pick for you. We're going for it. Leonard Williams. Why are they trading for Leonard Williams? Because he's a young defensive lineman. That still has plenty of upside. Oh, so you thought it was a good trade? Because they just signed him as a free agent lineman. That's the last point of upside.
Starting point is 00:02:07 So you thought it was a good trade? As a free agent after the year? Not giving up the draft pick? I mean, a conditional fifth? No, no. And a third and a fifth. That's going to become a fourth. That's if they sign him.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Right. If they don't sign him, then they're just throwing away a third and a fifth using Leonard Williams for eight games. We were trying to figure out if they franchise tag him, if that counts as an extension. I don't know. It's a good question.
Starting point is 00:02:33 But it was interesting. Yeah, we'll see what goes down today. You can, I wouldn't say expect, but don't be surprised if there's another episode dropping later today before you get your waiver claims and We'll react to the trade deadline. With Chris Harris, Janoris Jenkins, and some of the other defensive guys that will be traded. Trent Williams? Not for defensive players, no. But for offensive players, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:55 All right, so on by this week, we have the Saints, the Bengals, the Rams, and the Falcons. And with the injury last night to James Connor, the shoulder injury at the very end of the game against the Dolphins. Dolphins, by the way, thank you. You put a little scare in your fan base last night, but you came through and you lost like you were supposed to. Good job. Well, that really changes things because that
Starting point is 00:03:18 brings those backup Steelers running backs who are also hurt to the forefront of the waiver wire. But who are the top two or three priorities on waivers this week? I mean, it's Jalen Samuels is number one by far because it sounds like he's going to be healthy for week nine,
Starting point is 00:03:35 and Benny Snell and James Conner probably are not. So that's something you got to keep an eye on right now, and he's going to be the most added player, would be my guess, or it's hard to say because we're his ownership percentage. He's at 34% ownership right now. So maybe he doesn't become the most added. But you have now the starting running back in Miami is available.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Whether he's good or not, that's up to you to decide. But you should still invest in Mark Walton. You have a scenario of Matt Breida being banged up. And Raheem Mostert could be the second guy in one of the best running offenses that we have in the NFL as the complement to Tevin Coleman. And then there's going to be a lot of good streaming options at both receiver, tight end, and quarterback, but I think those three running backs are the ones you want to look at.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Okay. Samuels, Walton, and Mostert. That was the third one you said, right? Yeah. And how much fab are we talking for these guys? What do you think? The problem with Samuels is if you go heavy on him, there's the scenario of James Conner being fine. So the way that I put it in the column is at least 15% because I don't think we're going to get an answer on Tuesday unless he's out for the season. The scary part is that when the trainer was looking at him at the end of the game, he mouthed the word clavicle.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It was very clear to see if you're watching the game. It did not necessarily mean that it is a broken clavicle. He could have been saying the clavicle is fine. After the game, Mike Tomlin said it's an AC sprain, so that's not horrible. Dr. David Chow, our buddy, said that that's a good sign that he's, you know, that that's what it is if that's the case based on what he saw. So, you know, it's just it's this is the tricky game you play with waivers on Tuesdays. I almost think that the industry should maybe push waivers back to Wednesday. Like I probably am probably like four or five leagues where we do waivers on Wednesday and almost feels like it's a safer gamble.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. In that regard. And so I almost wonder if that's like the way that we should start to do like our leagues and maybe push for that. I don't mind having a few like that, certainly, because it kind of takes away a bit of the workload on Tuesday night if you're in a bunch of leagues, but also if you do that then you have to make sure that players who are playing on Thursday who were dropped on Wednesday can be picked up, which isn't always the case. But yeah, no, it's
Starting point is 00:05:52 tough. And you know what? Look, it's 840, 850 in the morning Eastern right now, so we don't know much. There's a chance we'll know more later in the day and you'll have to adjust accordingly. If James Conner's out for several weeks, let's just give that scenario. And they've got coming coming up they have the Colts this week who've been better against the run since their bye and since getting Darius Leonard back the Rams at the Browns at the
Starting point is 00:06:16 Bengals then the Browns again it's let's just say it's an okay schedule uh okay let's say he's out multiple weeks how much fab on jalen samuels 30 yeah i mean he's he's probably if you've been an aggressive fab bitter you don't have a whole lot left it's time to go all in on jalen samuels could he have a latavius murray type impact and how does benny snell factor in i mean let's say snell gets we don't know how healthy he is he's got the knee injury too so this could be Jalen Samuels backed up by Trey Edmonds Samuels had three games without James Connor
Starting point is 00:06:53 last year and he was just terrific in PPR he had 11 carries for 28 yards and 7 catches for 64 yards at Oakland then he had a game with 172 total yards on 21 touches against New England and then he had a game with 12 carries for 53 yards at Oakland. Then he had a game with 172 total yards on 21 touches against New England. And then he had a game with 12 carries for 53 yards and three catches for 11 yards at New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So I guess he was terrific in PPR in two of the three games, but only one game where he actually had a lot of catches. But yeah, I mean, I guess you factor in a few things. One, James Conner was averaging 3.2 yards per carry before the Dolphins game. Dolphins make everyone look better. They lost Ramon Foster last night to a concussion, one of their linemen. But still, I mean, it's just a lot of work, and it's a big opportunity.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So, all right. More on Samuels and the other running backs and everybody else to get on your waiver wire. Check in on Justin Tucker he is now 91% owned he was dropped in 9% of CBS Sports Leagues he is the number one kicker per game tied with Matt Prater depends on your scoring but don't forget to look at kickers this week because Justin Tucker might be available and Brett Maher's not bad either by the way I I can do you one better on that one Adam Adam. Week nine is the beginning of a three-week stretch of
Starting point is 00:08:07 a lot of teams on bye, including a week 10 bye NATO where six teams are on bye. And so if your kicker isn't an amazing kicker and he's got a bye coming up in the next three weeks, move him out now, replace him with a kicker who's going to play the next three weeks, and you don't have to worry about
Starting point is 00:08:23 making replacements there later. You just take care of it now. And I did not drop Justin Tucker, the one league I owned him in, and that's how I will approach it with Greg Zerline. I will do my best not to drop him. In fact, if you are going to drop your kicker, don't do it tonight. Do it on Sunday morning or Saturday night so nobody can get him and you have a chance at least to get him back if you want him because Zerline's on a bye this week. Don't make that kicker claim tonight. If you see Justin Tucker though, you can. There are some matchups that you might absolutely
Starting point is 00:08:52 love this week. Gardner Minshew gets Houston. They allow the fifth most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks. Four straight QBs have thrown three or more touchdown passes against the Texans including Preset and Carr. Same game. Chris Conley is 3% owned.
Starting point is 00:09:07 D.D. Westbrook re-aggravated an injury. So I'm no Dr. Chow, but I feel like that gives him a solid chance to miss this week's game against Houston. And they allow the most fantasy points to wide receivers. Conley's 3% owned. Mark Walton against the Jets, who have given up a ton of, who just lost Leonard Williams, by the way, and give up a ton of fantasy points to,
Starting point is 00:09:29 uh, it's a good opportunity for Walton. It's just, and he had a ton of playing time on Monday, so we'll just have to wait and see if he, he can turn this huge amount of playing time into stats. Cause he wasn't able to do it against Steelers, but it's the Steelers. And if they
Starting point is 00:09:45 bring somebody else in? Well, yeah. I mean, I guess it's possible. The Jets, by the way, allow 3.3 yards per carry to running backs, so they don't have a bad run defense, but just lost Leonard Williams, like I said. Jamison Crowder could be a priority. The matchups start right now
Starting point is 00:10:01 at Miami. The Giants, the Redskins, etc. And you also have the scenario of Robbie Anderson being traded. Yeah. Like I said on Sunday night, I think it's Demarius Thomas maybe in a deeper league. And Darren Fels at Jacksonville this week. They've allowed four touchdown catches to tight ends in their last four games, including two to Ryan Griffin. They've been struggling against tight ends. This is actually a week where we have
Starting point is 00:10:28 a lot of good matchups, and we have a lot of exciting players filling in for injured running backs and traded running backs. And Kenyon Drake might be available. And guess what? The 49ers run defense, if you look at it, I don't think it's on paper
Starting point is 00:10:43 not an amazing run defense. I could talk about a little... It might paper not like an amazing run defense. It might not even be a good run defense. Let's talk about some of the numbers on that in a little bit. All right, so Apple Podcasts mailbag tomorrow. Send in your questions also on Saturday on Apple Podcasts. Give us the review and leave us your questions. We have other podcasts you should be listening to, including the new David Sampson podcast,
Starting point is 00:11:03 the Pick 6 podcast, which is awesome, with Will Brinson, golf, college basketball, fantasy baseball, just so much stuff. CBSSports.com slash podcasts. And our Facebook giveaway. I will have you guys answer, actually. Our Facebook giveaway, if you want a T-shirt on the Fantasy Football Today Facebook group. The draft pick you regret the most from this year. The draft pick you regret the most from this year. The draft pick you regret the most.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I would say for me, it's probably Josh Gordon. I have way too much Josh Gordon. Total bust. What about you guys? Which pick do you regret? I took Odell Beckham with a late first round pick in a bunch of leagues. That hurts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Those are good ones. We'll see who wins the t-shirt this week. The big news, the Cardinals acquired Kenyon Drake. Did talk about this on yesterday's show, but what's your reaction to the Cardinals' running back situation now? It's a mess.
Starting point is 00:11:59 We spent a lot of time on the HQ show talking about this as well. I think it's still David Johnson's job when he comes back, when that happens, that's the big question right now. But how many touches is he going to get on a week-to-week basis? Heath said 15 is kind of the number you want to look at, and then figure the other seven-day touches that they may give to their backs go to drake for now and then maybe drake and edmunds when everybody's healthy i think the thing is is how long is edmunds
Starting point is 00:12:30 out you know because if it's edmunds out for several weeks as the nfl network reported then it's you know drake kind of sliding into that role of you know the second guy and kind of being i think good in a pass catching role but not necessarily changing his fantasy value whatsoever. And it's a downgrade to David Johnson. So if you're still inclined to buy low on him, which I would recommend, just buy even lower. Well, how much of a downgrade to David Johnson? I mean, he was obviously, when we did the midseason draft,
Starting point is 00:13:02 I'm pretty sure he was a first-round pick. I think late first round. That was a week ago we did the midseason draft, I'm pretty sure it was a first round pick. I think late first round. That was a week ago we did this draft. Do you still think he's a top 12 overall player going forward, David Johnson? I don't have him as top 12 in the trade chart. Where do you have him? I've got David Johnson at 15. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:22 So would you rather have Cooper Cup or David Johnson? Cup. And the injury's got to be a part of this. I mean, we just don't know when he's coming back. It's a huge part because it's a wild card. Well, you already have him expected to be out for Week 9, and they have their bye in Week 12. And in between that, they play San Francisco again.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So it's a tough matchup out and out you know so could he be great against Tampa Bay maybe their run defense has been very good as well you know and so what role does Kenyon Drake play in tandem with David Johnson my guess would be as a pass catcher in some capacity and so as we we saw before David Johnson started to suffer the injuries, they were starting to increase Chase Edmonds' workload. And so I think that's kind of where Drake slides in, just how quickly Drake will pick up the playbook and do things, drink at him. But Pete Prisco, he reached out to the people he knows in Arizona,
Starting point is 00:14:17 and they told him that they want to kind of do with their running backs what they do with their receivers, which is cycle guys through. So again, Johnson still being the quote-unquote starter but you know what that means in regard to how much work will get i think you know he said it best 15 touches is probably what the number you should look at okay would you trade right now david johnson injury uncertainty crowded backfield for levy on bell 100 i'd rather have bell wow leaps and bounds i mean you are talking about uncertainty, crowded backfield for Le'Veon Bell. 100%. I'd rather have Bell. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Leaps and bounds. I mean, you are talking about the second worst offense in football for Le'Veon Bell. Yeah, but again, you're banking on workload and schedule for him coming up. I think those are two things you buy into. And he's going to play. We don't know with David Johnson. But he's been a huge bust. I mean, let's be real here.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Sure. But healthy bust versus injured bust. And healthy touches versus crowded touches. I just want to say this about the 49ers run defense. You look at them game by game, and they did a great job against Joe Mixon and James
Starting point is 00:15:21 Connor. Those two guys, Connor going into last night's game against the awful Dolphins, those two guys are averaging 3.2 and James Conner. Those two guys, Conner going into last night's game against the awful Dolphins, those two guys are averaging 3.2 and 3.3 yards per carry this season. You look at three games, double-digit carries for Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, and Christian McCaffrey. All of them average 5.4 yards per carry or better against the 49ers.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Plus, Adrian Peterson had 20 carries for 81 yards. That's right about 4 yards per carry. So against the 49ers. Plus, Adrian Peterson had 20 carries for 81 yards. That's right about four yards per carry. So I don't know. I mean, I'm interested to see what happens. Maybe they're not like this amazing run defense. What they are great at, though, is as I mentioned yesterday, they allow the second fewest receiving yards to running backs. No running backs had even 40 receiving yards. Christian McCaffrey just had four catches for 38 yards against the Niners. So my long-winded way of asking, Kenyon Drake this week, if he's available, he's 79% owned. You see Kenyon Drake, you see Jalen Samuels on your waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:16:17 What do you do? I pick up Samuels. Unless we hear something that sounds like Con Connor's not going to miss any time, in which case you go right to Drake. So hopefully by Tuesday night, we'll have a little bit of a better idea of James Connor and we'll know which guy to go after. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I'd still go after Samuels. If James Connor plays, you'd still go after Samuels. Yeah. I'd rather have the backup in Pittsburgh than the backup in Arizona, especially, you know, not knowing if David Johnson's –
Starting point is 00:16:45 according to Cliff Kingsbury, he's day-to-day. So if he's back next week, you're still looking at a scenario of, I don't want to play Drake against the 49ers anyway. I'd rather take the chance on James Conner, who's already been banged up, now this is four times this season that he's had an injury. Okay, well that's the thing you said you'd rather not play Drake. I don't want to play Drake, period. Right, the whole point of getting Kenyon Drake is,
Starting point is 00:17:05 here's a running back who should play a lot on Thursday and probably has a semblance of fresh legs because he didn't play on Monday. Yeah, well, the other guy also has fresh legs because he didn't play in a month. He's also coming off of arthroscopic knee surgery. Yeah, I mean, I'll take the lottery ticket more so than the guy who's just going to be cut in a week when David Johnson comes. In this moment right now, I agree, because we just don't know about James
Starting point is 00:17:27 Conner, and I do not see a very nice ceiling for Drake. If Conner's back, I'd still rather have the chance of what Jalen Samuels could become as opposed to knowing what Kenyon Drake is. That's kind of interesting. But if you need someone this week, I mean, Kenyon Drake could get 15 touches. Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:43 If you need somebody this week, it's a different conversation. He might get you 9 PPR points. If you don't need either one. I don't know about that. He might get more than that. I don't want to sell him short because he's a pretty good running back, I think. Whenever he's had the opportunity, Kenyon Drake has done well, and they throw the ball to their running backs a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So, you know, I'm fairly interested in him if I need it. If you need somebody for one week and you got a starting running back with pretty much with very little competition oh it's a different different conversation you need somebody for one week absolutely you're taking kenny drake well i thought you just said that you would take connor you know you take samuels even like you're gonna rank drake ahead of samuels if connor's 100 100 if right i'm sorry i didn't i didn't hear you say if you need somebody for this week you need you need somebody for this week, it's 100% Kenyon Drake.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Without doubt. If you just need to pick up someone without having to play either one, I'm taking Jalen Samuels. All right. All right. There we go. That makes sense. Whether Connor is healthy or not.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I guess we shouldn't completely. Should we or should we not discount like Zach Zenner or Alfred Morris, who's still on the team? Is there a chance that they get an annoying role? No, it's a short week, and you're bringing Kenyon Drake in. He probably didn't get there until either late Monday night or maybe even Tuesday, the fact that he got traded on Monday. So he's got to learn the playbook in a short amount of time,
Starting point is 00:18:56 and it's, by all accounts, a complex playbook. So will he understand everything right away? Probably not. So I think this is a move to put him in to help out the scenario this week if both running backs are out as expected with Johnson and Edmonds. But it wouldn't be a shock if Zach Zenner gets more touches than him. Yeah, it could be. Like Trey Carson.
Starting point is 00:19:18 For the short week, yeah. Yeah, like what we saw with the Lions. I know that Trey Carson didn't get more touches, but he got too many. Okay, all right, let's move on, guys. The Chargers fired Ken Wisenhunt. Your reaction? They fired him because the offensive line was so beat up. They fired him because he insisted on running Melvin Gordon between the tackles. I guess I'm a little confused why they fired him, particularly after a win. I know they didn't necessarily deserve to win. They got a little lucky,
Starting point is 00:19:45 but I think the timing seems a little weird. It's usually, you see moves like this when a coach is on a hot seat, which would be a surprise given that Anthony Lynn, like Dave said, it's not just the offensive line's hurt, it's everybody's hurt. And given the year that he had last year,
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'd be shocked that they fired Anthony Lynn, but there could just be a difference of opinion between coach and coordinator and how they want to operate things. But I don't think Wisenhunt is the one running Melvin Gordon between the tackles when the head coach is a former running backs coach. So it could be they want more of Melvin Gordon
Starting point is 00:20:18 running between the tackles. Yeah, does it help or hurt anyone in your mind? No. Okay, we'll see what happens. They are what they are. Miles Sanders won't miss time with a shoulder injury, according to The Athletic. Deshaun Jackson's going to practice this week.
Starting point is 00:20:30 He's 70% owned. Your interest level in Deshaun Jackson, whose next three weeks are the Bears, Abai, and the Patriots. Minimal. It's unfortunate that he's coming back now because the schedule just gets tough. He's got Seattle after that, but then it gets better. So if you want to keep hanging on to him and use him down the stretch,
Starting point is 00:20:51 maybe he helps you get into the playoffs. But next couple of weeks, he's not going to be very good. How about Darius Geis? He's on track to play in week 11. How about Darius Geis? Yeah, he's 33% owned, Darius Geis. Want to add him? Not a bad bench stash, I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Okay. I mean, it's still a crummy situation in washington but he he's he would be better than kenyan drake as far as here's a warm body with fresh legs getting a chance to get a lot of work i'd rather have geist than drake in that regard long term okay you think patrick mahomes plays this week? No. Wouldn't surprise me if he does. Matt Ryan. He was saying that if it was a playoff game, he would go. By the way, geez, NBC. Like, enough with showing Mahomes on the sideline. It was so annoying.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Come on. Matt Ryan expected to play in Week 10. What would you do as the producer of the show? I wouldn't show him. I was going to count how many times they showed him, but I lost interest. It was too much. I just don't stop.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I don't care. He wasn't even doing anything. He was just looking. He was staring off at the game. It was so boring. It was so annoying. Don't make the game about him. It's not about him.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's about the guys in the field. Yeah, those cutaway shots. What a waste. They are a waste. Matt Ryan expected to play in week 10 after the bye joe flacco out with a neck injury could be out for the season brandon allen is going to start for denver talked about this yesterday but it was like fresh breaking news and um how do you feel about courtland sutton moving forward guys not great yeah yeah not great at all we had uh we had evan washburn on on the show
Starting point is 00:22:26 yesterday and uh he was at the game for the broncos and the colts and you know i asked him if he took anything away from meeting with the coaches the night before or from watching the game you know on the sideline in terms of who could be the the second piece to step up and he said it was really just for for the broncos about featuring courtland sutton even more you know not that they don't want to see somebody else develop you know clearly it was a nice spike in targets for noah fant and i think he has a chance if in fact their quarterback situation gets settled you know hopefully it's drew lock and he shows some things but um you know this was really for for what the move about emmanuel sanders at least
Starting point is 00:23:03 again the conversations he had with the Broncos coaches, was to have Sutton do some more things, not just line up on the outside and move him around the formation a little bit. Evan mentioned getting him a little bit more opportunities in the middle of the field. So we'll see if, even with the quarterback change, if Sutton is still able to produce. But clearly it's a downgrade. I don't think I've ever thought a scenario
Starting point is 00:23:25 of losing Joe Flacco would be bad for somebody, but it's probably the case. There it is. It could be similar to what we saw last year with John Brown, where Flacco was benched for Lamar Jackson, who at the time, still a young developing quarterback,
Starting point is 00:23:37 and John Brown's numbers just absolutely went in the tank. Yeah, or like Odell Beckham downgrading from Eli Manning to Baker Mayfield. True. You just never know. Matt Breida did leave with the ankle injury, but he says he's fine. He thinks he'll play.
Starting point is 00:23:50 The reports have been positive. Dr. David Chow said that Matt Breida, I think he called him a cyborg. He always beats estimated timetables, so he might actually play. Yeah, and he's at Arizona on Thursday. Well, that would hurt the Raheem Mostert waiver claim. Do you expect Adam Thielen at Kansas City? Yes. Will Fuller at Jacksonville?
Starting point is 00:24:12 No. Sterling Shepard Monday against Dallas? No. He said last week that he would be back, either week eight or nine. He already missed week eight, but we'll see. It's two concussions this year. Devontae Adams, what do you think this week? or 9. He already missed week 8, but we'll see. It's two concussions this year. Devontae Adams, what do you think this week? Be nice.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I think he's a byproduct of every game they win. They just buy another week with him of not having to rush him back. Until he's 100%, I don't think you'll see him out there. The fact that he was doing something in practice last week is encouraging. Hopefully, this is the week he gets back on the field.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Man, it'd be nice to see what this Packers offense looks like because they've just been awesome without him. Absolutely. I mean, Rodgers might be running away with the MVP at this point. Yeah, maybe. Russell Wilson's still there. Marquise Brown, he is expected to play this week against the Patriots, and he's only like 75%. I don't know if you want him this week, but rest of the season
Starting point is 00:25:06 it could help you. And D.D. Westbrook against Houston. I think probably going to... I'm going to think D.D. Westbrook is not going to play as of right now. No, probably not. They're buying next week. Okay. So it's game time. It's telly time. The top editions presented by Telemordoo.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Players, you should pick up off the waiver wire to help make your game time better let's uh get three at each position dave give me the quarterbacks to look at on waivers this week it starts with gardner minshu i think that he's got a very good matchup he played well last week and just he should be able to continue to throw the ball losing dd westbrook i don't think it's going to hurt him that much uh The Texans' pass rush took a hit with losing J.J. Watt. Their run defense did too. Not that that matters too much for Minshew, although he will run a little bit. I'll take Derek Carr second among quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He's got the juicy matchup against the Lions. Not expecting Darius Slay to play. The pass rush is still not good for Detroit. And Derek Carr's been playing moderately well the last couple of weeks. And now we know he's got Tyrell Williams back, and that'll help him put up some numbers. is still not good for Detroit. And Derek Carr's been playing moderately well the last couple of weeks, and now we know he's got Tyrell Williams back, and that'll help him put up some numbers. And then behind him, Sam Darnold, Mason Rudolph, Matt Moore,
Starting point is 00:26:13 and if you're stashing, Cam Newton. Yeah, Cam Newton not going to play this week. Kyle Allen's going to start, but Cam Newton could come back hopefully week 10. His schedule gets pretty good starting week 11. Darnold's got Miami, and no quarterback has scored fewer than 19 fantasy points against Miami. Now, teams don't throw a lot of Miami, and it's usually in the 19 to 25 point range,
Starting point is 00:26:34 but you'll take that from a streamer. So it's Minshew, Carr, and Darnold. That's the order for Dave. That's the order for Jamie as well. And you said you had Mason Rudolph in there. Jamie doesn't have, I can see Rudolph on his waiver wire. Rudolph's almost at 70% owned.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I don't think he's going to play very well against the Colts. I wasn't impressed with him at all last night. You weren't? I thought once he got going in the second quarter, he turned. No, he got the benefit of a throw
Starting point is 00:27:00 that any of us could have made against that blitz. And then Juju Smith-Schuster bailed him out on the second touchdown. And not only that, I think the game really changed when Zavian Howard went out. And by the way, I don't know if you guys, did you see the overhead look of the play at the end of the first half with the blitz? Zavian Howard was just, it really looked like he was dogging it on that play. I don't know if anybody else noticed that.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I could see what you're saying because you know the replay showed him and it looked like maybe he gave up trying to chase him across the field but that's a tough play to yeah for for a guy to make run tracking him down uh i mean it was a ridiculous play call to begin with yeah why are you blitzing eight on third and 20 all right what's our running back priority we got jalen samu We got Mark Walton, maybe Raheem Mostert. Who else should we be looking at on waivers? Geis would be next for me, you know, just with the thought of stashing him, because as we've seen from Washington, they're very run heavy and who knows how long
Starting point is 00:27:55 Adrian Peterson will hold up in that role. I would imagine at some point they have to make a decision on trying to feature Darius Geis a little bit if he's healthy. Alexander Madison, you know, with what he's shown you, it's an injury to Dalvin Cook away from being an absolute star. And then just based on the workload, Trey Carson, if he's going to be the guy in Detroit, he's not somebody that you'd want to start by any stretch, but it's still going to be a committee with Ty Johnson,
Starting point is 00:28:21 JD McKissick, and Paul Perkins all apparently getting touches. But if he's the leader of that group, he could be a flex option for you this week against the Raiders. We really have a lot of names to talk about today, so please stay tuned for the entire show if you can. Tariq Cohen might be available. He's 75% owned. Kenyon Drake is
Starting point is 00:28:37 79% owned. Kareem Hunt is 75% owned. Take a look at him. We could talk about Adrian Peterson. Maybe there's some interest there because he's just getting a ton of work, Take a look at him. Um, we can talk about Adrian Peterson. Maybe there's some interest there. Cause he's, you know, he's just getting a ton of work and he's at Buffalo. Uh,
Starting point is 00:28:51 and then there's one guy that actually I want to bring up now because Jamie, you had him on the drop list and he's Damian Williams. And did the Sean McCoy fumble away his starting job to Damian Williams? Because Tom McCoy completely dominated carries before his fumble. Would you still drop Damian Williams, or do you want to see what happens there? No, I'd still drop him. I don't have much interest in, you know, he's playing 42% of the snaps, right around 40% of the snaps.
Starting point is 00:29:21 He's not working in the passing game, which is what we kind of hope for from him. And I don't think McCoy's not touching the field. He may not be the starter, but at this point, you know, I don't have a lot of faith in Damian Williams. I mean, how comfortable can you be with any chiefs running back right now?
Starting point is 00:29:36 Cause they're all mixing and matching. I don't think the chiefs have a set plan on who they're going with from. Well, I think it was trending that way. I think that they actually had decided on the Sean McCoy. Damian Williams had seven carries. I thought so too. He had seven carries in the game.
Starting point is 00:29:52 All of them were after the McCoy fumble. But you know what? Coaches sometimes... Look what happened with Aaron Jones when he had those two fumbles, right? He came out. Jamal Williams had the big game. And since then, it's basically been the Aaron Jones show.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Well, I mean, that was Jamal Williams also. You're talking about the game where he came back after the injury? No, I'm talking about... The first time. It was the Sunday night. It was the Monday night game against Detroit. Aaron Jones fumbled twice. Yeah, you're talking about the game.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So the recent stretch. Yes, right. But he didn't lose his job is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. Okay, wide receiver priorities. Yeah. All right. Um, okay. Wide receiver priorities, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:26 Dave wide receiver. I think if you can still find them, DK Metcalf and Robbie Anderson are interesting to just put on the bench, but they're owned in high percentage of leagues. I've got Devante Parker at the top of my list against the jets. I think that he would be the top guy to go after, not expecting big numbers from him, but I think he'd be someone who could help you out. Danny Amendola in a PPR. I like the role that to go after. Not expecting big numbers from him, but I think he'd be someone who could
Starting point is 00:30:45 help you out. Danny Amendola in a PPR. I like the role that he could have. Kind of the old Golden Tate role because the run game in Detroit just isn't very good. Chris Conley makes sense as a one-week fix. In fact, I would probably put Conley at the top of this list if you just needed a guy for week number nine. He's got a bye in week 10. DeeDee Westbrook could be back by then. And then other names I have, and these are more for PPR formats, Jamison Crowder, Cole Beasley, Damaris Thomas. That would pretty much be it. All right, we had a lot of names there.
Starting point is 00:31:15 So Devontae Parker won for you. Jamie's got Parker like seventh or eighth on the list. He has Jamison Crowder number one. Crowder is easy for me. I mean, for two reasons. One, the Dolphins, Howard left the game last night and against the Steelers
Starting point is 00:31:30 and they can't cover anybody to begin with. And now you're talking about two scenarios. One, if there's no Robbie Anderson, because that's the assumption right now that they're probably going to move him. So, I mean, I'm going based on what the rumors could be, which is why I'm leading with him.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Two, this is what we've been waiting for, for the schedule to lighten up and for the matchups to be dramatically easier for them. And so Crowder and Adam Gase going back to face his former team, he's number one and is a borderline must-start play this week, especially if Robbie Anderson is out. I'm not going to bail until up to our set after they played in a monsoon last week, and so I think he'll bounce back. It may not be the easiest matchup this week, but this is also a long-term look.
Starting point is 00:32:07 You know, as we've seen from him, as the targets have been right around five or six, he's been productive. Deontay Johnson has scored now in the last three healthy games that Mason Rudolph has played. And so just the connection that those two guys have, I think that's legit. Conley, like we talked about, I almost feel like I have Danny Amendola too low. You know, if you look what he's done the last two weeks, he's been a target hog. They can't run the ball. It's just an easy scenario for them to play pitch and catch in terms of Stafford to Amendola,
Starting point is 00:32:33 and the numbers have been pretty consistent in the two games with Kerryon Johnson getting hurt and the game without Johnson. So I feel like he's almost a borderline must-start in PPR as well. I could see Parker playing very well against the Jets, but the same thing with Preston Williams. Last night it was a Preston Williams game more so than it was a Parker game. And they were going to Preston Williams on Joe Hayden. You know, it was Ryan Fitzpatrick's not afraid to challenge whatever you think the opposing cornerback,
Starting point is 00:32:56 opposing top cornerback may be. So, you know, it's hard to say which is going to be the better of the two Dolphins guys. Parker's been more consistent, but I think it's, you know, know hard to judge and now that you have Albert Wilson back as we saw he scored a touchdown last night uh Alan Hearn scored a touchdown I just don't think there's one go-to guy in this Dolphins offense which makes it hard to say must add could he be a flyer sure could he be somebody using DFS yes but long term short term I'll take Jameson Crowder first that's not close yeah but not to be like a well actually but just to on the dolphins parker had one more target two more catches 17 more yards than preston williams oh we played very well in three straight games coming in this week he's
Starting point is 00:33:35 been he's the better the better of the two i'm not sure he's a good bench slash bi-week replacement oh yeah he's he's very good i just don't think he's better than the other six guys i have yeah all right so yeah and deontay johnson deontay johnson should be ahead of him i have a tough time with crowder because the last couple weeks we thought that he'd get a lot of action in this offense and you thought he would i didn't think he would no the patriots game was brutal the jaguars game was sam donald coming off seeing ghosts and they're playing the ghostbusters theme song in the stadium which was awesome. He's been a disaster. What you're banking on is
Starting point is 00:34:08 that this is the taking off point for any Jets players just because of the schedule and what it looks like. The receivers that have had success against the Dolphins are Marquise Brown, Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Terry McLaurin, John Brown, Juju Smith-Schuster,
Starting point is 00:34:24 and Deontay Johnson. Oh my goodness. Speed. Downfield threat. Amari Cooper, Terry McLaurin, John Brown, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Deontay Johnson. Oh my goodness. I don't know if that means... Okay. Yeah. Downfield threat. It's not a lot of those slack guys, though.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Oh, Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson would be the better of the two. But he's owned in too many leagues. But it's also, is he on the team? Yes, exactly. And so it brings an interesting point because they've been using Demarius as an outside receiver. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:42 It was going to bring that up. And against the Patriots, he got a lot of looks. And he's not fast. That's the problem. But if he's in that outside receiver role, could he be the guy that ends up being okay against Miami? Usually what I do with guys like this, I put Preston Williams in the Parker
Starting point is 00:34:56 write-up. I put Demarius in the Crowder write-up. Trey Edmonds is in the Connery write-up. I don't think it's worth your time to go get those guys unless we find out again. Robbie Anderson may be traded. At the same time, yeah, look, those guys might be speedy outside guys. They're also the
Starting point is 00:35:11 best wide receivers on the team. If Crowder's the best wide receiver on the team, he should be the guy who succeeds. I don't think the Dolphins are so good against the slot. At one point, it looked like the Cardinals weren't so bad against wide receivers. They just were bad against tight ends. Then, then lo and behold they face a team that doesn't have a good tight end and the bangles and the wide receivers go nuts because they just can't cover anyone and
Starting point is 00:35:32 that's probably what it is for the dolphins all right tight the only other thing to take into account with crowder and potentially demarius thomas is he got now sam donald dealing with a thumb injury and there's more to it than that we'll get to that in a second yeah he's got a sprained left thumb okay Okay, so tight end. Tight end. I don't know who's up. Jamie, who are the priorities? You know, it's similar to some of the guys we talked about last week.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I think Darren Fels should be the top guy. You know, we saw one game without Will Fuller, and you saw the targets back up for him. Now, I will say this. If you need one guy for this week, I would take Jason Witten over Darren Fels because as we know, he owns the Giants. So, you know, if you just need a starter, I have Witten ranked ahead of Fels, but I think Fels long-term could be good as we, you know, again, have just started to see his role expand in the offense. But I would mix and match all three of the top guys between Fels, Jason Witten,
Starting point is 00:36:22 and Chris Herndon. Once Herndon gets back, I think there's going to be a nice taking off point for him, especially if they do move on from Robbie Anderson. But it's just such a wild card because we've been waiting and waiting and waiting for him to come back. But, you know, one-week scenario, give me Jason Witten. Long-term, I'll take Fels and Herndon over Witten. I'm surprised you don't have Johnnie Smith at the top of your list. Well, there's two things. One, we don't know if Tony Walker's going to come back.
Starting point is 00:36:41 And two, it's a little bit tougher matchup this week than he had last week. Yeah, Carolina, though, is trending in the wrong direction against tight ends. I don't know if the only Walker is going to come back. And two, it's a little bit tougher matchup this week than he had last week. Yeah. He's at the top of my list. Carolina's trending in the wrong direction against tight ends. That's Johnnie Smith's matchup. You do have to worry about Walker. But the last three weeks, O'Shaughnessy had 57 yards. Brait had two for 47 and a touchdown. Kittle had six for 86.
Starting point is 00:37:00 And a touchdown called back. And a touchdown called back. That's right. All right. There are others. There's Dallas Goddard. There's... Yeah. I like Smith as a starter called back. And a touchdown called back. That's right. All right. There are others. There's Dallas Goddard. Yeah, I like Smith as a starter this week. He's almost in the same conversation as Witten.
Starting point is 00:37:11 But again, long-term, give me Fels and Herndon over those other guys. Witten, by the way, leads the team in green zone targets. So that's cool. That's inside the 10. I'm willing to compromise on Magenta. But green zone, I think, is an actual thing. I'm not just trying to be funny like that's that's legit um i was thinking when when a team has the ball
Starting point is 00:37:30 inside their own 10 yard line that's the azure zone like they've got 90 yards to go downfield on their drive we have to find out where the friends where's the friend zone we have to fight we have to establish where you are buddy oh well i was my whole life i've been the king of the friend zone till till i get back anyway um all right so anyway uh dsts we got the cowboys against the giants at the giants the eagles against the bears the browns at denver uh cowboys are they the runaway leader of this group uh for me yeah yeah for me too uh the jets would be up there as well i know their defense stinks but the dolphins offense is pretty bad too there should be some turnovers there for the taking but i think the cowboys would be number one they were they were not popular for a while
Starting point is 00:38:16 and now they should be again now tennessee they are number eight in points per game in our cbs standard scoring. Carolina wasn't really a great matchup before week eight, and then San Francisco had a big game. But Tennessee is always just like a solid, steady defense. They're 65% owned. Seattle against Tampa Bay, I don't know how you feel about them. Seattle has three sacks in their last four games.
Starting point is 00:38:41 They're 62% owned. I think they can get some turnovers from Winston and hopefully they can sack him a couple of times as well. I like the Cowboys way better. Yeah, I have. I could have probably gone six deep with the defenses this week.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I don't really know if you should be holding onto the Ravens defense this week. I know they've been alright the last three weeks, but don't see it if you should be holding onto the Ravens defense this week. I know they've been all right the last three weeks, but don't see it against the Patriots. And what about the Vikings? If Mahomes plays, are you going to the waiver wire? Are you keeping the Vikings and rostering two DSTs?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Well, after Kansas City, they've got Dallas, so the next two weeks are not going to be easy for the Vikings defense. Then after that, they've got Dallas, so the next two weeks are not going to be easy for the Vikings' defense. Then after that, they've got Denver, then a bye, and then they've got some tough matchups after that. But they're good. At least some competent quarterbacks. They're pretty good. Their secondary has let offenses through. I mean, Marvin Jones had four touchdowns against them, and they looked mostly fine against Washington, but that's Washington.
Starting point is 00:39:46 So I think the schedule definitely doesn't do the vikings any favors i'm wondering if maybe this is the time to try and pivot away from minnesota because there are so many good quarterbacks in their future in fact that the next two teams they face are one and two in fantasy points allow like that they allow the fewest fantasy points to DSTs, but that's Kansas City mostly with Mahomes. All right, so kickers, Joey Sly. Remember, Justin Tucker might be available, but Joey Sly, Jason Myers, and Brett Maher
Starting point is 00:40:19 are pretty widely available, and you can pick them up. And I don't know if we have any IDPs. I'm guessing we don't. Oh, we do. Oh, we do? Well, tell me about them after I tell you about SeatGeek, Dave, because SeatGeek cares about customers, okay? Do you feel like some ticketing websites,
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Starting point is 00:41:50 Roderick Teamer. Defensive back for the Chargers. Has been playing well the last couple weeks. Available in 98% of leagues. You can go after him. Patrick Peterson has given you double-digit points in IDP. He's still available in over 90% of leagues. Wouldn't say that he would be a bad guy to add.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Defensive lineman. There's actually four of them this week that I like. Eric Armstead with the Niners. Olivier Vernon with the Browns, especially this week going up against Denver. And Brandon Allen at quarterback, he could have some good numbers. Dante Fowler's on a bye, but I think he's got some good potential the rest of season. And Jonathan Allen's been putting up good numbers for Washington. He's still out there in about 75% of CBS Sports leagues. Linebacker A.J. Johnson should be on the list every week
Starting point is 00:42:29 out there in copious amounts in IDP leagues. Rashawn Evans with the Titans has been good at linebacker, and Nate Gary has been putting up some interesting numbers for Philadelphia as one of their linebackers and their defenses. They try and turn things around there.
Starting point is 00:42:46 So available in 95% of leagues, Gary is. All right. If you want, if you're in shallower IDP leagues, Logan Ryan is 50% on in CBS sports leagues. He's a defensive back for Tennessee. He's just having a great season in terms of IDP points.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Matt Ioannidis is only 13% on. He's a defensive lineman for Washington. He's a good player and he is available in a lot of leagues. All right, we're going to take a break here on Fantasy Football today. And when we come back, we'll take quick looks at Green Bay, Kansas City, and Pittsburgh, Miami. We've got some more injuries for you, but the rest of the show is basically who to add and who to drop.
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Starting point is 00:44:02 touchdown pass to Jamal Williams was so cool. Ridiculous. Oh boy. What's interesting fantasy wise from this game in your mind? I love that the Packers offense has continued to evolve into being running back centric, but they're finding ways for Aaron Rodgers to still get numbers. Now,
Starting point is 00:44:24 a lot of that has to do with some fluky plays, like the touchdown to Williams, and these long plays that Aaron Jones is coming up with. But these guys are good, and they deserve these touches that they're getting. And Aaron Rodgers is still coming up with really good numbers in spite of the fact that he doesn't have to, he doesn't have a reliable number one receiver
Starting point is 00:44:43 for the past couple of weeks. Do you think Jamal Williams is going to be a reliable fantasy option going forward? It seems a little fluky. He's got seven or more fantasy points in non-PPR, nine or more in PPR in five straight games, not including when he got hurt against Philadelphia. Reliable in terms of starting or reliable in terms of a flex? Yeah, even a flex.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I think you can say reliable in terms of a flex, given what flex options typically are. Because if your team is loaded, you have great flex options. If your team is not loaded, I would put him in the same category as I would Royce Freeman. Someone who you know is going to get work. He's not going to have a dramatic workload, but he's still going to be put in a situation
Starting point is 00:45:24 to have a chance to help your fantasy team. So is it going to be great every week? Probably not. But while there's a hot hand, you ride the hot hand on a great offense. I wouldn't be ashamed if he was your number two running back. You'd prefer to be somebody else. So he's good enough to be that,
Starting point is 00:45:41 but definitely better as a flex. Okay, Pittsburgh 27 and Miami 14. A lot of injuries in this game. Alright, what's here? Juju Smith-Schuster had his best game. Would you be looking to sell?
Starting point is 00:45:57 If so, what would you look to sell for with Juju? I mean, if you could turn Juju into a struggling Le'Veon Bell, I'd do that in a heartbeat. You'd have to put something with Juju in order to make that happen but it can be done well how about a wide receiver would you rather have Juju Smith-Schuster or A.J. Green rest of the season
Starting point is 00:46:14 A.J. Green I'll take Smith-Schuster because I just don't know about A.J. Green and when he's going to come back what team he's going to be on now it stands to say or I should say, that he could get traded and all of a sudden his value goes through the roof because he's on a contending
Starting point is 00:46:30 team with a good quarterback. But for now, I'll still take Juju. How about Juju or Stefan Diggs? I'd go Diggs. Alright. Alright. I don't know how high to move up smith schuster in the trade chart
Starting point is 00:46:46 because he had this great game against miami is he ahead of courtland sutton he is but not by a ton cool sorry to be brief on the games i want to focus on who to add and who to drop this week so here we go let's talk about quarterbacks. And Minshew, so the priorities were Minshew, Derek Carr, Sam Darnold for this week, Cam Newton to Stash. He's 44% owned. If you still need help, Ryan Tannehill's at Carolina.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And Carolina's a tough matchup. Only Gardner Minshew has actually scored more than 20 fantasy points against Carolina. If you look at Tannehill, he's not a bad quarterback if you like your scenario. His playoff matchups, or leading up to the playoffs, are not bad.
Starting point is 00:47:32 He gets Oakland in Week 14, Houston in Week 15, and then if you play into Week 17, he gets the Texans again. Yeah, and New Orleans in Week 16, at home, I don't know, that's so bad. Right, but I think just in terms of two great matchups, if he's still playing like this, he doesn't fall all over himself
Starting point is 00:47:50 in some of these tougher games coming up, then that stretch of games, especially two quarterback super flex leagues, he could be great. Now, he's probably owned in those formats already, but still. One more thing on Tannehill. Maybe you're not using him here in Week 9 against Carolina at Carolina. Week 10, though, we got, I think, six teams on by, right? Yep. One more thing on Tannehill. Maybe you're not using him here in week nine against Carolina at Carolina. Week 10, though, we got, I think, six teams on by, right?
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yep. Kansas City at home for Ryan Tannehill. So could be worth using there. Now, who are we dropping for these guys? What about Jimmy Garoppolo? He's 78% on and he's at Arizona. Would you drop him for Minshew, Carr, Darnold this week? Easily. I think the one thing about...
Starting point is 00:48:26 We'll find out about Garoppolo as a fantasy quarterback in two of the next three games because he does get the Cardinals in those two matchups. And if they open up the passing game, now that they have Sanders, that'd be great. But I think if you're just looking at it logically, I don't know if they change very much how they're playing because they're playing great.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I don't know if Arizona's offense is going to put up a big number, so they're chasing points. And so Garoppolo only one game over 20 fantasy points for the season. He's just not a good fantasy quarterback. He's a great NFL quarterback right now in how he's playing and managing the game and not turning the ball over, and they're undefeated for a reason. But he's just not a good fantasy quarterback.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And I feel like we'd be saying these things even if he did have that touchdown to Kittle last week. He doesn't throw enough. That's the bottom line. He just doesn't throw enough. What's the bottom line. He just doesn't throw enough. What about Daniel Jones this week against Dallas? Any interest? No.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Okay. We've got Baker Mayfield, 64% owned. Any interest in picking him up? See, this is an interesting one because if they trade Chris Harris, then the answer is yes. Because he got Denver this week. Yep. But he has been an awful fantasy quarterback all year.
Starting point is 00:49:27 He's been terrible. And then after this week, he's got Buffalo and Pittsburgh. So you can't use him as a bi-week replacement. Week 12, Miami at home. Right. And then week 13, Pittsburgh again. Pittsburgh's defense pretty good now. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Would you have any hesitation to cut loose Baker Mayfield to pick up Minshew or Carr? No. I mean, Baker was a guy that up Minshew or Carr? No, none. Baker was the guy that we've been saying to drop for weeks now. It's just a matter of, I think his situation changes for week nine if Chris Harris is off Denver's roster. How do you feel about Matt Moore against Minnesota and Mitchell Trubisky at Philadelphia? I wouldn't want to start either one. I would take Moore ahead of Trubisky. And then here's an interesting drop.
Starting point is 00:50:05 But you also have to deal with the scenario for more of Mahomes' point. So that's why I didn't even mention it. Would you drop Kyler Murray? How nervous would you be to drop Kyler Murray? I would drop him if I needed just to make one roster move of quarterback for quarterback. So he gets San Francisco twice in the next three weeks, then a bye. The matchup against Tampa Bay is clearly the one you'd like to have him for next week in week 10.
Starting point is 00:50:30 So that's the decision you have to make if you do want to drop him. But if it's just, I love my roster and quarterback is the only spot that I don't love for this week, then I'm dropping Kyler Murray, especially 10-team leagues. That's an easier one to deal with. But if you only have a 4-5 bench league, then he's probably going to get cutteam leagues. That's an easier one to deal with. But if you only have a 4-5 bench league,
Starting point is 00:50:47 then he's probably going to get cut in some leagues. Keep him if you've got Deshaun Watson as your starter, if you've got Brady as your starter, if you are still starting Wentz, if you're streaming Minshew, because you'll want him against Tampa Bay. How droppable are Kirk Cousins and Carson Wentz? I like Wentz this week, so I wouldn't drop him.
Starting point is 00:51:05 I wouldn't drop Cousins either. Yeah. Cousins is a borderline starter also. Are you starting Minshew over Cousins and Wentz this week? Minshew's a top four quarterback for me this week, so you have to. Wow, okay. All right, running backs, running backs. Let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Let's look at the check to see if they're available list. These are guys that are owned in 72% of leagues or more. Jamal Williams, Kenyon Drake, Tariq Cohen, Kareem Hunt, and Adrian Peterson. Jamal Williams, Kenyon Drake, Tariq Cohen, Kareem Hunt, and Adrian Peterson.
Starting point is 00:51:38 So what's your take on that group, Jamie? I mean, obviously the name that probably stands out is Cohen because the other guys have been either productive or getting work. The one thing
Starting point is 00:51:49 which I saw last week, which is why I said play Devin Singletary, it's the same thing. The Eagles really struggle with pass-catching running backs, and I do think they're going to be chasing points
Starting point is 00:51:57 in terms of the Bears this week, so I don't like David Montgomery. Mark my words. David Montgomery will not play well this week. I think this is a game where Tariq Cohen sort of factors in some easy throws for Trubisky. So I think, and Heath brought this up,
Starting point is 00:52:12 that Cohen's numbers when they're chasing points are better. Makes sense. And I think, again, playing on the road, the way this offense looks right now for Chicago, I think Cohen could be a borderline, I don't want to say starter, but at least back in the flex conversation against the Eagles defense. Four running backs have had
Starting point is 00:52:29 six or more catches against the Eagles. Six running backs have had 30 or more receiving yards. And one caught a touchdown. That was last week. I don't know if there's anything else you wanted to add there. And then like Damian Williams, I mentioned it again, but who's a better guy to own? Damian Williams or Jamal Williams? Jamal Williams. Damian Williams or Jamal Williams?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Jamal Williams. Damian Williams or Kareem Hunt? Depends what you need. I mean, obviously, you need somebody to play for the next two weeks. It's clearly Damian. I just think that Kareem Hunt, should something happen to Nick Chubb in the next couple weeks, or
Starting point is 00:53:01 we don't know what his role is going to be, they could be getting the same amount of touches. Kareem Hunt is eligible to come back in week 11 or 10? Week 10. Okay, so he's out this week at Denver, and then he's eligible to come back beginning with Buffalo in week 10. Yeah, you could stash him just to see what happens when he does come back. To the priorities that are owned in less than 65% of leagues. Jalen Samuels, Mark Walton. How much fab on Mark Walton?
Starting point is 00:53:27 Not much. I said 10%. I'm sorry. I forgot about that. Raheem. No, no. I said it. I wrote it.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Oh, you wrote it. Okay. Raheem Mostert, but be cautious with him because Brita might play. Yeah, I dropped Mostert down in the priority list behind Geis, Madison, and Carson. If we find out Brita's out, then I think that makes Mostert down in the priority list behind Geist, Madison, and Carson. Just, you know, if we find out Breida's out, then I think that makes Mostert clearly attractive, but given the circumstances, like if you need somebody
Starting point is 00:53:51 this week, I think he's behind Samuels and Walton, but I would start him over Madison and Carson if Breida's out, even as the second guy. Trey Carson is who Jamie's talking about. He had 12 carries against the Giants. Actually, I said earlier that
Starting point is 00:54:07 Ty Johnson had more carries than Trey Carson. Was I wrong about that? Yeah. Sorry about that. I think Ty played more than Trey, but Trey had more carries. Neither of them did anything noteworthy. Would you drop Ty Johnson for Trey Carson?
Starting point is 00:54:24 It's funny because I sort of struggle with that because I think like Pete said, don't be surprised if they go back to Ty Johnson after Trey Carson struggled. I want to give it one more week. I don't think people should necessarily drop him. If you're looking at it in a 10-team league
Starting point is 00:54:39 and there's Adrian Peterson, Jamal Williams, those type of guys, You'll drop him. If there's Jalen Samuels, you'll drop him. Well, hold on. Let me push back on Peterson, though, because you have to decide do you want to start him against Buffalo, and then he's out of bye, and then Geis comes back.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Do you need a running back who can start for you this week? You can run on Buffalo. It does seem like you can run on Buffalo. Okay, fine. So that's the question. Do you trust Ty Johnson? They have Oakland, right? They have Oakland. I trust Adrian Peterson.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I'm shocked that I'm saying this. Leaps and bounds over Ty Johnson. I would too. You're not leaping over anyone. Would you drop Ty Johnson? You would drop him for Jalen Samuels and Mark Walton, right? I don't know if I would do it for Walton. I would drop Ty Johnson for Walton, absolutely. I don't think you should do it for Mostert, though.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Nope. Okay. And we also have Rex Burkhead. Did not get a lot of work, unfortunately. Only four touches. Rashad Penny, same theory as Madison. I mean, you could put really a lot of backup running backs on this list like Tony Pollard, you could add.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Kalen Balazs, 8% on only four touches. He didn't even play 20% of the snaps. You're hoping for a touchdown or a Mark Walton injury at that point with him. And how droppable is Chase Edmonds? Very droppable. Yeah, value crushed. Do we know the severity of the injuries? It's going to cost some multiple games.
Starting point is 00:56:07 That's according to the NFL network. It says it's going to be out multiple weeks. The fact that they had a Drake, you know, I don't know what his workload is going to be. I mean, what are you holding onto at this point? It could be the third running back there.
Starting point is 00:56:16 That's it. Yeah. I think that's a guy to drop for sure. Damian Williams, Jamie says drop. I, I like this. Wait one more week and see what happens after that McCoy fumble.
Starting point is 00:56:23 But I understand. And, and, and you know, the, the reason there the reason that it's not must drop, it's candidates. Ronald Jones. Yeah, I got no... I'd rather Peyton Barber at this point than Ronald Jones. Barber's getting the goal line work, the green zone work, more so than Jones. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Just turn it over to Jones. I just don't want to deal with their backfields. Agreed. Dolphins are one of them. Bucks are one of them. The Lions have become one of them. Right, but a lot of people are stuck and we have a lot of buys coming up. I'm more interested in the Dolphins, Dave, because Balazs is not nearly as involved as
Starting point is 00:57:01 Peyton Barber is. You know? They seem to be willing to give Mark Walton work. He's had at least 14 total touches each of the last two weeks, and that's essentially playing the starter's role. Last night's game, six targets. They've had two touchdowns out of their running backs all season, and it was Caden Balazs on short yardage scenarios.
Starting point is 00:57:24 He's not going to find the end zone very much. I think the best case you're hoping for is what he did three games ago, which I think was against Washington, when he had 12 PPR points. That's his ceiling, I think, most weeks. I think they only had one trip inside the 10-yard line. On first down,
Starting point is 00:57:40 it was a direct snap to Caden Balazs. On second down, Walton was in. They called timeout. He stayed in, and then they threw a touchdown pass. Okay, any other running backs we want to talk about dropping here? Let me just go through the list. People say they want more drops. It's a tough list to drop.
Starting point is 00:57:56 I really struggled with all the positions to drop guys this week. Would you drop Miles Sanders? No way. Yeah, no. I'm just throwing out like he could be one of the worst guys on your team. Duke Johnson. You know what? When I saw the big run yesterday or Sunday, what I thought of,
Starting point is 00:58:16 which it's not going to happen, but it reminded me of last year when Nick Chubb had the big game against the Raiders. And then I think it was either the week after, either that week or the week after they traded Carlos Hyde. Like, it was almost like, oh, this guy's good. Let's play him more. Turn him loose, for sure. Would you drop...
Starting point is 00:58:37 I'm pretty much done with this exercise. Alright, let's go to the wide receivers. It's tough. It's tough to find guys that are owned in enough leagues to say drop. I think Duke Johnson is pretty droppable. Yeah, but again, he feels very much like Damian Williams
Starting point is 00:58:51 where you don't know what the workload is going to be. Just scored a touchdown. You know his role in the passing game. Should something happen to Carlos Hyde, he could be good. Right, but if you're thinking do I drop him for Jalen Samuels, I think it's a no-brainer. I agree. Yeah, sure. Alright all right wide receivers thanks for being patient everybody i think we're probably going a little long today uh all right so we've talked a lot about these guys but robbie anderson
Starting point is 00:59:16 we'll see what happens with him there are players like tyrell williams and dkcalf. Metcalf has Tampa Bay this week. Marquise Brown, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Corey Davis. They're owned in a lot of leagues. Who is a must-own? Tyrell Williams is a must-own, right? Yeah. Is DK Metcalf? Yeah. Is Robbie Anderson?
Starting point is 00:59:43 Depends on where he is, but yes. Is Marquise Brown? Yep. Yeah. Yeah Robbie Anderson? Depends on where he is, but yes. Is Marquise Brown? Yep. Yeah, yeah, come on. Christian Kirk in PPR? Absolutely. Yep. Like, would you take Kirk or Crowder?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Kirk. I would take Crowder. Okay. Corey Davis, you sticking with him? I'd stick with him for another week. You don't have to start him. Mike Williams is annoying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Still no touchdowns. They try and get him going deep. They try and target him a bunch. He's got air yards like crazy, and he's just not scoring. Safer in PPR than non-PPR. Well, would you be willing to drop Mike Williams for someone that you really wanted this week? Yeah, for somebody I really wanted.
Starting point is 01:00:30 If I needed Jalen Samuels, I need a running back off the waiver wire. If I need a tight end to stream, I would do that. Okay. But he'll be good as a bi-week replacement receiver. So double-check your receivers bi-weeks over the next three.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Because you might need Williams for week 9, 10, or 11. Yeah, well week 9 and 10, week 11 is not a buy, but week 12 is not a buy. 10 is Kansas City at home. No, 10 is Oakland on the road and 11 is Kansas City at home. There you go. Those are good matchups. Alright, moving on, moving on. Curtis
Starting point is 01:01:01 Samuel, Marquez Valdez, Scantley. You okay dropping them? Yes. Preferably in smaller leagues. Curtis Samuel, Marquez Valdez, Scantling you okay dropping them? yes preferably in smaller leagues okay, I mean MVS is just doing nothing you're hoping for one big play you're almost hoping for both of those guys
Starting point is 01:01:17 that guy man, I know Darst lost because he needed one more catch from MVS and he got one catch for four yards, and that's very funny, and Darson laughing at you. Priority list owned in less than 65% of leagues, Crowder, Dorsett, Deontay Johnson, Chris Conley. Don't discount Chris Conley.
Starting point is 01:01:36 He had four catches for 103 yards and one touchdown on seven targets against the Jets, and now he's facing the Texans. They allow the most fantasy points to wide receivers, and it's contingent on D.D allow the most fantasy points to wide receivers, and it's contingent on D.D. Westbrook being out. Danny Amendola. I will say that Danny Amendola, to me,
Starting point is 01:01:54 he feels a little bit like Mohamed Sanu, who two years in a row, basically, has a really good three-game stretch, and then you pick him up, and then he stinks. And Amendola's had three games with 95 or more yards and three games where they combined five catches for 43 yards. There's now two games where their running situation has been a mess. Their running situation's been bad all year. Well, in terms of the running back being out or hurt.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I understand. The main running back. He's got a great matchup at Oakland. Who would you rather own, Marvin Jones or Danny Amendola? Jones. But Amendola? Jones. But Amendola warrants adding in PPR leagues. You dropping Marvin Jones for any of these guys? For Crowder?
Starting point is 01:02:31 Dorsett? No. I don't think so. Maybe a non-PPR for someone like Deontay Johnson. Where are you on Josh Gordon right now? Is he an add or a drop or a hold or what? Drop. Okay. Drop Aud and Tate going into the bye.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Would you drop Tyler Boyd? No. 10 team, non-PPR. You absolutely positively need somebody else up the waiver wire, and he's your worst bench player, yes. Are you dropping Kenny Stills for any of these guys? You could. Would you drop Kenny Stills for any of these guys? You could. Would you drop Kenny Stills for, let's say, Devontae Parker?
Starting point is 01:03:11 I think I might hang on to Stills over Parker. Yeah, I don't want to just discard Stills after one bad game, as long as Fuller's still up. There are more wide receivers. Preston Williams, Taylor Gabriel at up. There are more wide receivers. Preston Williams, Taylor Gabriel at Philadelphia. They stink against wide receivers. Josh Reynolds had a nice game with Brandon Cooks out, but he's going into a
Starting point is 01:03:32 bye. And then I actually think Anthony Miller's been pretty interesting. He's had nine, seven, and three targets in his last three games. He's also at Philadelphia. I mean, it's hard to really buy into a bear, but Miller's been kind of okay. They're both kind of similar, Gabriel and Miller.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Gabriel just had seven targets? Six. I had him for six. But yeah, six or seven. Do you care about Alex Erickson at all? Not going into their bye week with AJ Green coming back, no. Now, if AJ Green's traded, then you can pick him up after their bye week. Demarius Thomas, if Robbie Anderson gets moved? A.J. Green's traded, then you can pick him up after their bye week. Demarius Thomas, if Robbie Anderson gets moved.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Yep. Yeah. Russell Gage going into a bye, but filling that Mohamed Sanu role and having seven catches for 58 yards. Not in their bye week, no. Yeah. Zach Paschal just needs Preset to throw, and then he's been good. But I understand getting away from him.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Alan Lazard, any interest in Alan Lazard? No. Not particularly. Especially with our guy Devante Adams coming back soon. And Nicole Hardeman. No, right? He's a big play guy but it's tough to rely on that. We have Sterling
Starting point is 01:04:41 Shepard and Will Fuller as possible drops. I guess. I'd like to avoid it. I Fuller as possible drops. I guess. I'd like to avoid it. I'd like to avoid it if I could. Right. You want to hang on to those guys. Tight ends. Okay, keep an eye on Jimmy Graham.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Jimmy Graham leads the team in red zone and green zone targets. I think most of his targets there came with Devontae Adams getting hurt. He had four in the Eagles game alone. I'm not quite sure if it was all before or after the Adams game. I believe minimum two of them were after he got hurt. It might be three. Okay. It might be four.
Starting point is 01:05:16 So he could be really dependent on Devontae Adams, Jimmy Graham. Greg Olson's 82% owned. He's got his juicy matchup, but he's been terrible lately. In the last juicy matchup, he had four catches for 52 yards on seven targets at Tampa Bay. But Olson's not terrible. Gerald Everett going into a bye. You got to hang on to Gerald Everett, right?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Oh, for sure. How do you feel about Eric Ebron? Good matchup at Pittsburgh. It's okay. Okay, so would you rather have Darren Fels, Good matchup at Pittsburgh. It's okay. Okay, so would you rather have Darren Fels, who's the number one priority for Jamie in the guys that are widely available, or Greg Olson?
Starting point is 01:05:56 I think if you're starting Olson, you might as well stream. And if I'm streaming, I'd rather have Fels. Okay. Would you rather have Jason Witten or Greg Olson? Witten. You're streaming. I'd rather have Fels. Okay. Would you rather have Jason Witten or Greg Olson? Witten. You're streaming. Would you rather, just to set this straight,
Starting point is 01:06:10 Greg Olson or Jimmy Graham? I have Graham one spot higher. I'd take Olson this week. All right. Ryan Griffin caught two touchdowns. He's had three in his last three games. That's Jets' tight end, which just makes Chris Herndon even more attractive
Starting point is 01:06:24 if he can come back. And his schedule's great. Or will Griffin take away from Herndon? They could play them both. And will both tight ends take away from Jamison Crowder? That's one of the reasons why I'm not as high on Crowder as
Starting point is 01:06:40 Jamie is. Because now there's four possible short area targets for Darnold. If they keep using Griffin and they add Herndon in. All right. John, who Smith, not a great man. Well,
Starting point is 01:06:52 it might be, like I said, Carolina has been struggling lately and then he's got Kansas city at home. So John, who Smith had a big game. He had six catches for 78 yards and a touchdown. So if Delaney Walker's out, does John,
Starting point is 01:07:02 who Smith moved to the front of the line? For me, he does. It just depends on what you are looking for. If you're looking for just a one-week starter, I would still take Witten over him. If you're looking for someone long-term, I don't know what the appeal is because at some point, Walker's going to come back. Now if Walker's not coming back, then that changes everything. Then I think he's ahead of Darren Fels.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I currently have Smith one spot ahead of Fels in the Week 9 rankings. I would take him first among all these tight ends. Yeah, and I certainly understand. Again, I just think that I like Witten better for his matchup against the Giants and his track record against the Giants, but Smith is better than Fels in terms of a one-week play if Walker's out. Witten's caught a touchdown three straight games against
Starting point is 01:07:49 the Giants. And Dallas Goddard, Noah Fant, Cameron Brait, these are options here. Seattle's really bad against tight ends, and Cameron Brait is facing them, but he just doesn't really get it done. But Seattle, not only are they bad against tight ends, if Mark Andrews
Starting point is 01:08:06 didn't drop a touchdown, they'd be even worse against tight ends. And then after that, for Braid, it's Arizona. O.J. Howard might be back. Maybe you want to pick up O.J. Howard. Maybe he gets traded. Well, that's why I have Howard there, just in case he gets traded. Hopefully he gets traded. It'd be nice to see a change of scenery for him. All right, that's going to do it for this show. Unless there are any tight ends we need to talk
Starting point is 01:08:21 about as drops. Hmm. Tight end drop. I got a job for you. Bye, Jamie. unless there are any tight ends we need to talk about as drops. Tight end drops. I got a job for you. Bye, Jamie. I think that's it. Great might be a drop. TJ Hawkinson? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:35 I think Hawkinson is in the exact same conversation as Olsen. He's a streamer at this point. You're hoping he scores. He's just not getting enough targets to warrant starting otherwise. He's got a good matchup, though. He's got a real good matchup. Jared Cook. It's great. Can he score on the Raiders?
Starting point is 01:08:49 That's why you might hang on to him. Do you have Johnnie Smith or Hawkinson? I have Smith and Fels and Witten ahead of Hawkinson. Okay. All right. And that's that. Defenses, Cowboys, Eagles, Bears, Titans, Seahawks. Jets, I guess.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Pick up Justin Tucker, everybody. Thanks for listening. Adam, everybody, we do have a live waiver show tonight, Thursday or Tuesday night, 8 p.m. Eastern on CBS Sports HQ. So if there are any changes to these lists, we will talk about them then. You can stream CBS Sports HQ on anything that gets Wi-Fi. Go to CBSSportsHQ.com. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 And we might talk to you later today with a bonus pod for the trade deadline. If not, we'll talk to you tomorrow. I'm Adam Azer with the GBS. We'll see you later. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.

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