Fantasy Football Today - 10/31 Fantasy Football Podcast: Waiver Wire! Zeke! Trades!

Episode Date: October 31, 2017

What a wild Monday night and Tuesday morning around the NFL! Let's talk Ajayi (2:00) as we wonder if LeGarrette Blount is droppable and which MIA RB we should add, Zeke (5:30) as we wonder which DAL R...B to prioritize (some clarity on this at 29:15), Garoppolo (8:54) and Duane Brown (10:43) ... Top Waiver Wire priorities at QB (13:10) including Josh McCown and Jacoby Brissett, RB (14:48) including Alex Collins, WR (19:20) including Paul Richardson and Jeremy Maclin, TE (22:51) including Jack Doyle and Vernon Davis, DST (25:00) and IDP (27:21) ... Recapping PIT-DET (30:36) and DEN-KC (33:31) before we do a HALLOWEEN CANDY DRAFT (39:20), break out the Dropometer (41:00) and talk more Waiver Wire for each position (45:15) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Let's hit the waiver wire. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. Happy Halloween! I hope you have your J.H.I.E. Eagles costume.
Starting point is 00:00:22 What a day! What a morning! What an evening. Oh, my goodness. This could be the longest podcast. It won't be, but it could be the longest podcast that we ever do. There is too much to talk about. The waiver wire is almost secondary today. And that's my long intro. Welcome to the show. This is Fantasy Football Today.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I am Adam. He is Jamie. Hi, Jamie. Hey, buddy. And he is Heath. Hello, Heath. My head is exploding. I had not yet finished processing everything from last night.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I know. I know. Crazy. Like, not only did Zeke, is the suspension right now back on, but Garoppolo is on the Niners, and the Seahawks got their left tackle, and Jameis Winston could miss this week's game, and Jordan Reed is going to probably miss this week's game. And it's Halloween. And we're getting ready to eat candy today.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah. Yeah, candy. Why are you not dressed up? I am. I'm wearing my high school soccer T-shirt thing. So I'm a high school soccer player, I guess. That's creepy. Okay, no, I'm not dressed up. Are you dressed up, Heath?
Starting point is 00:01:25 No. I already told up, Heath? No. I already told you my feelings on Halloween. I will walk my son around the neighborhood and take candy from my neighbors. Good. Good for you. But not happily. Yeah, and I just want to say it's
Starting point is 00:01:39 very cold up here. I feel bad for the kids. I hope you bundle up. Very cold down here. Is it? Yes. Been in the 50s each of hope you bundle up. Very cold down here. Is it? Yes. Been in the 50s each of the last two mornings. That is frigid. All right. Enough about that.
Starting point is 00:01:51 My goodness. Jay Ajayi. Let's start with him, then Zeke, then Garoppolo. He's going to the Eagles for a fourth-round pick. Value up, down, or the same for Jay Ajayi? I think it's like, listen, we found out like five minutes ago. Process now. I reserve the right to change my mind in the near future.
Starting point is 00:02:30 But my initial reaction is I think it's a slight downgrade because I don't know that I like his chances of getting 20 touches very often. I think he's likely to have to share the load more, and so that would be a slight downgrade. Okay. Jamie, process now. I'm going to say same if you're giving me the option of the same, just because I think he's on a better team. He has a, even with left tackle issues, I think better offensive line. And I don't think they make this trade to put him in a timeshare.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So I'm going to say he's still going to be 15. I think he takes what LeGarrette Blount's been getting. Yes, I think that's perfectly fair, 15 carries a game. But he'll probably do, I would say a little bit more than that. I'll say it'll probably be 18 carries a game. That's it, huh? Okay, 18 carries, right. I was going to say 15 felt a little low just because he's JGI.
Starting point is 00:03:26 He should be pretty good. And the offense, I want to look up the numbers right now. I mean, the offense is so much better. I don't need to look up the numbers. The offense is so much better, and that helps for sure. Now, they do have Denver this week. We have no idea what the playing time situation will be. But, yeah, drop LeGarrette Blount?
Starting point is 00:03:45 Drop Wendell Smallwood? Smallwood's easy. I mean, you know, I'll take the hit for that one. That was a – I don't know what the heck the Eagles were doing there. No. The fact that they didn't play him last week, maybe they knew this was coming. So, yeah, he's droppable. Blunt, I guess you could say he's droppable. Blunt, I guess you could say he's droppable.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And you've got to go now get the two Dolphins guys to see who's going to be. Yeah, who do you prefer? And let me just say real quick on the Eagles. They have Denver this week. It's the best-run defense in the NFL. And a bye after that. And it gets easier. But, you know, I think for Blunt, I don't think you're going to be comfortable starting him against Denver,
Starting point is 00:04:31 and then he has a bye, so that makes him more droppable. Yeah, so the two Dolphins guys, who do you want there? I think it's Drake in the rushing downs role and Williams in the passing downs role, but this is the regime that drafted drake yeah so this would you know lead you to believe it's their guy and he did have six carries last week right you know so i would imagine he's going to be the one that benefits the most yeah the snaps and touches have really favored damian williams all year long until last week. And last week we saw for the first time, second time this season,
Starting point is 00:05:09 Drake actually played more snaps than Damian Williams did. He got half as many carries in week eight as Williams has all year long. We haven't really seen Drake do anything in the passing game, so it'll probably be a committee. But listen, I don't think Damian Williams is good. I don't know yet if Kenyon Drake is good. So I would be more willing to take a shot on Drake. Would you be more willing to take a shot on Kenyon Drake or Darren McFadden as we go to our next news item?
Starting point is 00:05:33 And by the way, the Dolphins don't have a bad running schedule going forward with Oakland this week. At Carolina, Week 10 would be difficult. But then it's mostly fine matchups going forward. I would say it's a slightly favorable schedule going forward for the running back. So would you look for a Dolphins running back or a Cowboys running back? Ezekiel Elliott currently suspended for six games, but this could be appealed. So you tell me. I think if I'm looking at it right now, I'd go McFadden.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Still both Cowboys, guys. McFadden, Morris, Drake, Williams, in that order. Yeah, I'm going to go Morris, McFadden, Drake, Williams. But McFadden and Morris are basically tied for me, and Williams and Drake basically are as well. What's your expectation for the Dallas backfield? We've had this conversation before, but let's have it again. What's your expectation for the Dallas
Starting point is 00:06:29 backfield? I do think Darren McFadden is going to do the work in the passing game. I believe it will be somewhat of a committee approach. I think there's a decent chance that Darren McFadden just is not able to handle 18-plus carries a game anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I think Alfred Morris is better than him. Based on what, though? Well, Alfred Morris has had some good runs this season. He's looked okay. McFadden wasn't good last year. Well, he was hurt. He had 24 carries last year. He wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:07:01 He had 24 carries last year. Morris is averaging 3.5 yards per carry on 69 carries this year. McFadden had 24 carries last year, averaged 3.6 yards per carry. They're both owned in about 55% to 60% of leagues. They will both be popular waiver wire ads. How concerned are you that— You said Morris was averaging— That was last year.
Starting point is 00:07:24 He has 13 carries this year, and he's averaging 8.1. Oh, okay. One of those was a 70-yard carry. So he's, what, 12 for 30? Yeah, right about 3.5 if you take out the good run. Okay, my apologies. So 3.5 yards per carry last year. Neither was very good.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Anyway, what's your concern that these guys get added in leagues and then, oh, Zeke Elliott's not suspended yet. Do you think Zeke plays this week? I don't think so. Everything that I've read and heard is that this was a surprising turn of events. But the court that he has to appeal to now is the court that overturned Brady's victory. So all the legal precedent is on the NFL side.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I know we had Amy Dash on, and I know she expected Ezekiel Elliott to avoid suspension this year. I tried to kind of calm the expectations down a little bit. I think you had to play it safe with Ezekiel Elliott. You had to at least accept the possibility that he was going to get a six-game suspension. And I do think most people did that because McFadden and Morris still owned in more than half of CBSSports.com leagues. Is there any interest in Rod Smith, guys? Yeah, deeper leagues. I mean you have to just think that if the two guys in front Smith, guys? Yeah, deeper leagues.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I mean, you have to just think that if the two guys in front of him struggle, why wouldn't they give him the opportunity there? All right, let's go to our next news item. The Niners acquired Jimmy Garoppolo from the Patriots for a second-round pick, and he reportedly will not play this week. That would be against Arizona. Next week is the Giants, week 10. They are 27th in fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Do you want Garoppolo this year? I think it's interesting as somebody that you keep. You're not adding him in a standard 12-team league this week, no. But I do think it's interesting as somebody you keep an eye on towards the end of the year because once he gets comfortable, they've got a few weapons on that team. In the fantasy playoffs, he has some decent matchups. He faces the Texans and the Titans.
Starting point is 00:09:39 So in a 2QB league, add him now. In a Dynasty league, if he's out there, add him. In a Standard League, you're waiting to see if he can get comfortable. The schedule the next four weeks includes a bye week, the Seahawks and the Giants. No. And you've got to feel good if you're in a Dynasty league. They're probably not going to play him until after their bye week. At least that's the thought.
Starting point is 00:09:57 That's my expectations too. You've got to feel good in a Dynasty league if you own Tom Brady. This probably signals a little bit more of a future for him. But what about Pierre Garçon? People are wondering if they should drop Pierre Garçon. Does this mean you want to hang on to him? I'm hanging on to him. Yeah, you should hang on to him. I mean, he's there next year.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So you have to assume that they want to develop some level of rapport with the two guys. Okay then, so Garçon might not play this week. He has a neck injury and he will be questionable. Meanwhile, right tackle Gary Gilliam is out for the season, but the starting right tackle Trent Brown, who Gilliam was replacing,
Starting point is 00:10:32 could be back this week, but Joe Staley is not going to play this week. He's not going to go on IR. Their offensive line is banged up. Garoppolo walking into a different situation than what he walked into last year. That's for sure. Meanwhile, let's go to Seattle where they have acquired Dwayne Brown, left tackle from Houston, who only played one game for the Texans this year,
Starting point is 00:10:50 so probably doesn't do much for the fantasy values of the Texans losing the left tackle. But how much does it help the Seahawks to get Dwayne Brown for, I think, quite a haul? Jeremy Lane, a cornerback, a 2018 fifth-round pick and a 2019 second-round pick. This was a pretty big haul for the Texans. How much does it help the Seahawks, though, now that they have left tackle Dwayne Brown? I mean, it helps. It can't be worse. So, you know, look, Russell Wilson, they need to keep him healthy.
Starting point is 00:11:20 This is what the Seahawks are looking at it as. Aaron Rodgers is out of the way. Dallas is banged up, could be struggling for who knows how long. They see Philadelphia probably as a legitimate threat, but they're the team to beat right now in the NFC. So go get a piece, add to what your weakest link is, and improve on that side of the ball. Does it make you have any hope for the running backs? Does it give Rawls any fantasy value? No, they need to commit to a guy.
Starting point is 00:11:55 If they can commit to a guy, which it should be Rawls, then we could see what one of these guys could do with 15 touches, 20 touches. I mean, they've made mistakes with his backfield along the way, not committing to Carson right away, letting Collins walk out the door. Letting Spencer Ware walk away. Letting Spencer Ware walk away. You know, you want to go back further than that. But, you know, so neither guy has played well. And CJ Proseis is going to come back, which is going to make things even worse at some point.
Starting point is 00:12:22 So until you see it, you can't really look at him and say, okay, I have to have this guy on my roster. All right. So Jameis Winston could miss this week's game with a shoulder injury. They're at New Orleans. Jordan Reed not expected to play this week. Vernon Davis certainly going to be somebody to take a look at. He's 27% owned.
Starting point is 00:12:40 In the one game without Jordan Reed, he had five catches for 58 yards and a touchdown against Oakland. And Seattle's been okay against tight ends this year, but they don't lock down tight ends like they lock down, you know, running backs or wide receivers. Let's go to the waiver wire priorities. By the way, Dave was going to be on the show today, and then he had a dart to write a story about Jay Ajayi.
Starting point is 00:12:59 So we miss you, Dave. But he sent me some IDP players for you to – IDP players is a little redundant – for you to pick up this week. It's like half-point PPR, IDP players. But anyway, let's do our top three waiver wire priorities and start with quarterback. And who did I give quarterback to, Heath or Jamie? Me. Jamie, who are your top three quarterback priorities?
Starting point is 00:13:23 It's a stellar group this week. Josh McCallum would be one. I mean, look, it's hard to deny the way he's played. You've got to think that in a week where Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger and Phillip Rivers are off, he can be a potential top 12 guy for you. So he's number one. Jacoby Brissett, the Texans' defense has fallen apart, and he played well last week against Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I imagine he can have similar type production, 17 to 19 points. I don't know if he'll break the 20-point threshold, but I think he'll be good for two quarterback leagues. And then the third guy, it's a desperate situation, but I would take a shot on Jay Cutler. The Raiders are playing their second straight road game. They have not been good against opposing quarterbacks really for the majority of the season. So I think Cutler can get you 16 to 18 points and be in that 2QB conversation.
Starting point is 00:14:11 All right, you're looking at McCown Thursday night against Buffalo. Jacoby Brissett, he is facing Houston, which allows the second most fantasy points to quarterbacks. And Jay Cutler, Sunday night game at home against Oakland. Brian Fitzpatrick at New Orleans. Would he factor in at all? If Winston's out. I'd be surprised if Winston was completely out, but as we get closer to the end of the week, then yes.
Starting point is 00:14:36 If Fitzpatrick does start, I would probably put him not ahead of McCown, but probably ahead of the other two. Ahead of Brissette and Cutler. All right, I've got other names I'll throw at you later on in the show. Let's go to running backs, Heath. Who are some running backs you want to pick up? It's Alex Collins with a bullet at the top for me at 49% owned. He was fantastic on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:14:59 He's been fantastic whenever he's touched the ball this year. They gave it to him 20 times, if you're counting rushes and receptions. And they said, we're going to continue to give Alex Collins more work. So that's all I needed to hear. He should be 100% owned after today. And then it's the Dallas running backs. I'm putting Alfred Morris 1A, Darren McFadden 1B. I understand why people are making Darren McFadden 1A.
Starting point is 00:15:23 The odds are, listen, these guys are 56% and 60% owned. They're probably not both available in your league. Go get the one that is. Do we expect Leonard Fournette to play this week? Yes. Yes. Okay. So that's why Chris Ivory is a little bit lower down in the priority list.
Starting point is 00:15:38 It's hard to say that it would be Ivory fully because they talked up Yeldon after the game. Right. When he played well two weeks ago. And also I'll say that Orleans Darkwood just missed the cutoff, but I would put him ahead of the Dallas running backs. Really? He's got a good schedule coming up. I think he's going to get the work. I'm a little nervous that the Dallas running backs and the Miami running backs are going to be disappointments.
Starting point is 00:16:03 They're going to probably cannibalize each other a little bit. So that's going to be somewhat frustrating. I do think, though, that if one guy takes the lead – now, I would take McFadden over Morris just because I think fresh legs, if you could say that for a 30-year-old guy. He's going to have fresh legs for about a quarter. Yeah. I just think that this offensive line is clicking right now. So if they do commit to one guy, that guy could be – I just said this on one of our video shows. If you pencil in Elliott as a 100-yard guy every week,
Starting point is 00:16:31 I would say if there's a second guy, he's like a 65- to 70-yard guy. How much fab would you spend on Alex Collins first? If I was desperate at running back, pretty close to all of it. Yeah, I'd say at least 20%. If you're looking good and you don't need Alex Collins, don't blow it completely. Don't blow your fab budget completely. But you want to try and get him. I mean, there's still flaws here.
Starting point is 00:16:57 They still have their bye week. There's still a bad offensive line. He's still losing touches to Allen. We only just started to see him in the passing game last week. And he has no touchdowns. So I don't know if he's a savior. And the way I wrote the waiver work column, if there was one Dallas guy, like if we find out, if your waivers don't run until the end of the week,
Starting point is 00:17:15 for example, if we find out Wednesday, Thursday, McFadden's running with the ones or Morris is running with the ones, that guy I think is better than Dallas Collins. Really? If there was one guy. ones or Morris is running with the ones, that guy I think is better than Alex Collins. Really? If there was one guy. Well, running with the ones, yeah, but that doesn't mean that the other guy would be completely eliminated. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Let me rephrase it. If we found out come Wednesday or Thursday that Todd Archer from ESPN covers the Cowboys, a friend of mine, if he reports, McFadden is the starter. In other words, if you're getting the same amount of carries from Alex Collins as you are from the Dallas running back, you're going to prefer the Dallas running back. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Heath, would you agree with that? Yes. I don't think that'll be the case, but yes. For the record, Alex Collins does not have a great matchup this week. Tennessee allows 3.4 yards per carry to running backs. But he was really good. I don't know where he has to be.
Starting point is 00:18:07 He's like top 15 for me. He's definitely top 20. He's ahead of any Dallas or Miami running back. Yeah. It hasn't mattered for Collins. The Dolphins had a good run defense. He's been really good in almost every matchup in terms of a per carry base. He's averaging six yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:18:21 He's the Irish dancer. All right. So we've got Alex Collins. We've got Alex Collins. We've got the Dallas running backs. How much real quick and fab would you spend on the Dallas running backs? 15%. Yeah. At least for either one.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Again, if both are available, I'm going to take McFadden. Heath will tell you to take Morris. It's just whatever you think is going to happen. All righty. Matt Forte, 79% owned. Would you want him in PPR? Potentially, but I think it's going to get messy. You wonder how that's going to work after he complained last week.
Starting point is 00:19:00 We'll come back and talk about Darkwood later because he does have the Rams and the Niners in his next two games. And those two teams allow the most fantasy points to running backs. Heath, I do think the Rams are a lot better than that, though. They're starting to show it, in my opinion. I think they are better than that. I don't think they're a lot better than that.
Starting point is 00:19:15 All right. And San Francisco, I don't think is better than that. So, yeah, it's interesting for Darkwood. He's 67% on. Now, how about wide receiver? This was supposed to be Dave. Jamie, why don't you step in and tell us the wide receivers, top three wide receivers this week.
Starting point is 00:19:30 It's not a great group, but it's not horrible. I'm still a little bit of a toss-up between Paul Richardson and Robbie Anderson. I like clearly the quarterback situation for Richardson better. His big play potential has been on display the last couple weeks. Anderson had the two-game stretch of at least the one 12-target game, but he still has his bye in front of him, so I'll put Richardson first, and then Corey Davis is third. If you need somebody for this week, though, Jeremy Macklin certainly is appealing.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And I think Tyler Lockett needs to be up there too. He's playing really good football. I love Lockett and Richardson this week against Washington if they're going to try to put Norman on Boland, which I don't know if with him going inside. No, Norman really hasn't moved very much. Now I think the wide receivers can be broken down into two different groups. The owned in less than 50% of leagues or 60% of leagues, which is what Jamie just gave you, Robbie Anderson, Paul Richardson, Macklin, and he said Tyler Lockett. But then there's the available and shallower leagues group,
Starting point is 00:20:33 which is probably a lot more exciting. I mean, that makes sense, but it's not always the case. I mean, like Alex Collins is the most exciting running back. But these wide receivers, Juju Smith-Schuster, Sterling Shepard, Marvin Jones, Mohamed Sanu, Rashard Matthews, Alan Hearns. These guys are pretty appealing. Maybe one or two of them is on your waiver wire. Smith-Schuster, Shepard, Marvin Jones, Mohamed Sanu, Rashard Matthews,
Starting point is 00:20:58 Alan Hearns. Jamie, what's your overall thought on that group? Certainly much better. You know, I mean, if you can find those guys out there for you. Shepard is set up to get a ton of targets and clearly has a good opportunity in front of him if he's healthy. Juju Smith-Schuster is proving himself with an increased role. And, you know, we've been saying it for a long time now that the Steelers' second half schedule,
Starting point is 00:21:27 especially with all the home games, is nice. Marvin Jones is starting to play much better when the targets have been there for him, and the same thing with Sanu. Matthews and Hearns are kind of, I think, more along the lines with the guys in the second group, but they've had their moments. If Corey Davis can't get healthy, I think, more along the lines with the guys in the second group. But they've had their moments.
Starting point is 00:21:49 If Corey Davis can't get healthy, then Rashard Matthews' value is going to be very consistent, I think, the rest of the way. Juju Smith-Schuster, if he's out there on waivers, how would you rank him with Alex Collins and the Dallas running backs? Still behind. Yeah, behind. Is there any other running back you'd take ahead of Juju?
Starting point is 00:22:07 No. No. Not a Dolphins guy? No. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't think I would. Probably not, but again, it's kind of case specific. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And it's similar to this thing. If Adam Gase comes out today and says, Kenyon Drake's our guy, we're going to roll with him, or Damian Williams is our guy. Waivers are going to take forever tonight. And not only that, we could have more trades. Frank Gore could get traded. So Marlon Mack. Yeah, there's already been a tweet from
Starting point is 00:22:37 Armando Salguero saying, the Dolphins may not be finished yet. Jarvis Landry is available for the right compensation. Wonderful. Boy, Adam Gase was really pissed off last week. My goodness, getting rid of everybody. All right, tight ends.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Top three tight ends this week, Heath. Top three tight ends. I want to qualify this. Jack Doyle is clearly the top guy to go get a tight end. He has a good matchup against a houston defense that just gave up two touchdowns to jimmy graham he just got 14 targets you can never scoff at that for a tight end but the qualification is just rewind to a month ago when he jokowi brissett's first start he gets eight targets targets, catches all eight of them, and then he has a matchup coming up against the Browns,
Starting point is 00:23:25 and we got so excited about Jack Doyle, and he caught like four passes in his next three games or something. Right. So, yes, Jack Doyle's the right answer. I don't know that Jack Doyle's going to be a long-term number one tight end, but he's the right answer this week. Vernon Davis, if Jordan Reed is out, and they are talking as if Jordan Reed is going
Starting point is 00:23:46 to be out, so Vernon Davis will be my second choice. And then I'm going to stick with Benjamin Watson. So, I'm interested in the top two. Doyle, Davis. That's how you have it ranked as well, Jamie, right? Doyle first, Davis second? Yep. Okay. Davis is at Seattle.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Doyle is at Houston, as Heath mentioned. I think I'm going to double check this Right now This stat is going to blow your mind Jack Doyle has the third most catches At the tight end position He's been great Occasionally
Starting point is 00:24:16 Three weeks in a row PPR has been very good And he's only two catches behind Travis Kelsey It's Kelsey 44 catches Er Ertz 43 catches, Doyle 42 catches, and then Gronkowski fourth at 34, way behind the other guys. I mean, look, I was excited about Jack Doyle in the summer because I thought him stepping into the number one role with Dwayne Allen gone, he was one of my favorite breakout candidates.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And then the Luck injury, I think, scared a lot of people off. And now that you're getting this production, there are people that added, dropped, drafted, added, dropped Doyle all along the way. I think you can feel comfortable with him until he gives you a stretch of performance otherwise. And DSTs. Jamie, how about some DSTs for Week 8? Week 9! We're in Week 9. How about Week 9? Well, Week 8, the Ravens are going to be amazing. Yeah, good call.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I think I look at the Cardinals against the 49ers with how bad they've performed and the injuries on the offensive line. That'd be my favorite. The Titans against the Ravens, if Ryan Mallett is the starter, even if Joe Flacco is the starter, but the Titans coming off their bye week should be good. The Gi Titans against the Ravens, if Ryan Mallett is the starter, even if Joe Flacco is the starter, but the Titans coming off their bye week should be good.
Starting point is 00:25:28 The Giants against the Rams, they should be healthy from the Giants' perspective. I believe Olivia Vernon practiced yesterday. I didn't see for sure, but that'll certainly help. And the fact that the Rams have to play across the country. But the Rams have the highest scoring offense
Starting point is 00:25:43 in the league. Yes, but I also think that the Giants' defense I mean, you know, part of that is the 49ers game, you know, for them. When they face, you know, good defenses. You saw what they did against Seattle. You know, Goff got turnover prone. And, again, the fumble early in the game for Gurley. Well, which defense do you like better? Because the Rams DST is actually 67% on.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I do like the Rams DST better. But I would still take a flyer on the Giants, and I would take a flyer on the Lions. 48% on. They get to play Brett Hundley in his second start. It is Lambeau again, but he struggled in the first start. Oh, I was wrong. The Rams no longer are the highest scoring team. Guess who is?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Houston. Houston. Did you know that? No. I just guessed it correctly. So I guess I did know it. it i didn't know that i knew it until you asked me very nice very good guess i'm sorry so we have uh the we have the cardinals the titans the rams if they're available the giants did you say anyone else we can go for lions okay what's the saints ownership percentage yet now 73 okay right i like them better too i like them a lot this week yep actually you mentioned the lions it's not the
Starting point is 00:26:51 lions are actually set up for a nice little run here they've got uh they've got green bay this week then cleveland then chicago those are two of the four worst teams in terms of fantasy points to DSTs. And then Green Bay, they could be the worst with Hundley. Who knows? But Green Bay, Cleveland, and Chicago in their next three games, the Lions are 48% owned. That's a pretty good look at the waiver wire. We will do more later. Here are some IDP guys from Dave.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Carlos Dunlap and Mario Addison on the defensive line. Dunlap and Addison. At linebacker, Joe Showbert, Christian Jones, and Wesley Woodyard. And defensive back, Adrian Phillips, Byron Jones, Marshawn Lattimore, and Kurt Coleman if he's healthy. Adrian Phillips,
Starting point is 00:27:40 Byron Jones, Marshawn Lattimore, Kurt Coleman if healthy. Those are some good names. And last week, Dave got me a little Hayes Pillard. Dave came through with the IDP last week. So good stuff. And I want to read an email, guys. I don't want to give the guy's name just in case his wife is listening.
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Starting point is 00:29:15 fft again that's proflowers.com and the code is fft well we have some football games to talk about we've got some big news too oh you can, you can't. Two more breaking news items. Sorry this day is absurd. Go for it. One, John Makota, and I'm just going to say everybody's last name wrong so that nobody can be mad about it, from the Dallas News, just tweeted this morning, Jerry Jones said on 105.3 The Fan, Alfred Morris will get more carries, but Darren McFadden and Rod Smith will get more work, too. Okay. Good to know. know uh 17 minutes ago
Starting point is 00:29:47 so and then jeremy curly being suspended so monster day of news jeremy curly being suspended now usually this we lead the show usually we lead the show with Jeremy Curley's suspension, but not today. Not today. That's a joke. Very funny. Nobody cares. Okay, Jamie, what were you going to say? No, I mean this is the clarity we were looking for. So Alfred Morris is the one to prioritize.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Okay. Jamie, I will now trade you Alfred Morris. You lost Zeke in that league. I'll give you Alfred Morris for Michael Crabtree. Wow. No. Didn't think so. Pittsburgh 20 and Detroit 15.
Starting point is 00:30:38 We got Sunday night and Monday night to talk about. Any major takeaways from this game, fellas? Denver stinks. How about Pittsburgh and Detroit? That's not the game he asked you about. Yeah, Pittsburgh and Detroit. We might be a little distracted. I'm still on board with Ben. I just wanted to say Denver stinks.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Why does that matter? That's what we're talking about. They do stink. That is true. I thought Stafford had a chance for a good game. He threw for 423 yards, but no touchdowns, only 70 fantasy points. He just had some bad luck. He had a good game.
Starting point is 00:31:09 He played really well. Yeah. Ben's not right. I know it's kind of masked by the fact that he threw a 25-yard pass to Juju, and Juju took it for a 97-yard touchdown, but he was not good in that game. He also had a touchdown pass dropped by Darius Hayward-Bey, so that would have been 24 fantasy points. Well, that's what you get for throwing the ball to Darius Hayward-Bey.
Starting point is 00:31:29 It's true. It's true. Well, they're on a bye. Are you willing to drop Ben Roethlisberger? He comes back at Indianapolis, Tennessee, Green Bay in his next three games after the bye. No. Here's the thing. With his schedule, I understand why you wouldn't want to drop him,
Starting point is 00:31:46 and I agree that you could end up looking stupid by dropping him. But this is a monster waiver wire. It may become more of a monster in the next couple of hours if there's another trade. I mean, of the guys most likely to go, Frank Gore gets traded, Marlon Mack. He's available in 25, 30% of leagues. Yeah, I mean, you're going to go get him. If Alex Collins is out there and I've got running back issues, I'm dropping Ben to get him. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Oh, yeah. I mean, I – I'd drop him for the – Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of guys I would drop him for, I guess is what I'm saying. Yes, but I don't think you're dropping him. Like, I would drop Phillip Rivers before I'm dropping Ben Roethlisberger. Rivers has two brutal games coming off of their bye week.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah, okay. And he's been just as bad. Then again, if you have Phillip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger as your quarterbacks, you might have already quit. No, no, no, but I think, you know, if you're just talking about guys that are owned. I agree with you. I mean, look, if you have to make a move, then you're – like, I have a league where I have Watson and Roethlisberger, and I wanted to see how Watson would do against the Seahawks and just to see how this was going to play out over the next couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I started Roethlisberger this week. Dummy. And you might drop Roethlisberger in that league? Oh, I'm done with Roethlisberger. Right. But if you're weak at quarterback, like I just – I'm not sure you can afford to do it because, yes, it is a great waiver wire a week. It's not a great waiver wire a week at quarterback, and it rarely is anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Right, like another league where I have Ben, I'm just going to stash him and hopefully pick up my count. Are you willing to drop Amir Abdullah for a Cowboys, for Alfred Morris, for Alex Collins? Yes. Yeah, I think you have to. It's disgusting. For Kenyon Drake? Yes. No.
Starting point is 00:33:23 No. All right. Amir Abdullah, you failed me with your three fantasy points. For Kenyon Drake? Yes. No. No. All right. Amir Abdullah, you failed me with your three fantasy points. I needed five. You gave me three. I lose. Kansas City 29, Denver 19.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Jamie, what do you have to say about Denver? They're not good. No, they might change quarterbacks too. That'll help. Listen, they do not have a good quarterback on the roster unless Chad Kelly's healthy. Or they sign Brian Hoyer, which doesn't sound like it's going to happen. No, no. And there's
Starting point is 00:33:53 no other quarterback out there they could sign that would be better than everybody on their roster. There might be. No, there is. I was really disappointed that Devontae Booker got the touchdown because it could have been a good game. All three running backs in this game averaged. You were disappointed.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I was grief-stricken. Why? Yes, because I thought C.J. Anderson was going to have a great game. They stuck with the run. They did. He was very good on a per-carry basis, 78 yards on 15 carries. They all were good. All were good.
Starting point is 00:34:20 All he needed was that touchdown, and it would have been a great day. He's now 13 road games. This upped his average a little bit on the road. All were good. All were good. All he needed was that touchdown, and it would have been a great day. It goes now. He's now 13 road games. This upped his average a little bit on the road. So he came into this game 13 road games over the last three years, averaging four fantasy points a game. And now he's what? Five and a half?
Starting point is 00:34:38 Let me – yeah, I don't know. This is disappointing. But they did run the ball well. And would you rather – if you own C.J. Anderson and you wanted to handcuff him, do you think it's Charles or Booker? I think it's Booker. Booker is more of the direct replacement. Yeah. Charles, I think, is still going to stay in his role.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Right. I think he could have had a big day too if it wasn't for that fumble. They all could have. He would have run a lot. Yeah. I mean they all averaged over four yards a carry. Over 4.9. 4.9 or better.
Starting point is 00:35:06 But I guess the thing is, I feel like C.J. Anderson was a good call, and I was wrong because of dumb luck, and A.J. Derby was a terrible call, and I was right because of dumb luck. So I'll take the trade. Now the question is, was it dumb luck, or is Devontae Booker legitimately their inside-the-10-yard-line guy? Because that was not the only time he was in in those situations. It seemed like, if I had to guess, I think Booker definitely got the most snaps inside the 10.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I don't know what that means going forward. You just never know. But it was a disappointing development. Earlier in the game, before this Booker touchdown, Booker got an opportunity and didn't score. And they took C.J. Anderson off the field. But C.J. Anderson also played in some of those situations. So it's kind of like the Patriots. Dion Lewis, sometimes he gets work there. But usually it's Gillis Lee.
Starting point is 00:35:49 You just never know. If I offered you right now Demarius Thomas for your Devante Parker, who would you take? Demarius. Demarius. Because of injury or because you think that Demarius is better per game? Demarius is better. Yep. And the Dolphins offense just got worse.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And I know that we're all down on Trevor Simeon this morning, but I'm not sure that Demarius has a worse quarterback than Devontae Parker does. If Lynch is right, he could be better than what the Dolphins have. If Osweiler gets some magic back at Denver. Changes bodies with someone. All right, you know what? Devontae Parker's on the drop-o-meter, so we'll talk about him later. I have a good stat on him.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Got a text from a buddy who is just furious with Kareem Hunt. 22 carries, 46 yards. Thinks he's getting burned out right now. Wants to trade Kareem Hunt. 22 carries, 46 yards. Thinks he's getting burned out right now. Wants to trade Kareem Hunt. I would love to trade for Kareem Hunt. Are you guys concerned at all? Not particularly. I didn't think he was going.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Nobody really thought he was going to keep up the pace he had the first three weeks of the season, right? And do that against Denver, no. I mean, this happens. He's a number one running back. This is definitely the best run defense in the NFL. And this is five straight games without a touchdown for Hunt. He had six touchdowns in his first three games. So I guess that's just the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I was surprised that Tyreek Hill was started in 89% of leagues. It didn't work. He threw a reception. No, it didn't work, and I understand why it was. I was down on Tyreek Hill, but I think I still had him in my top 24 wide receivers. It was just difficult to get away, and he'd had good games against Denver in the past.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I would like to give credit to the person that's been in my mentions on Twitter about this, but I can't find it, so sorry. Thank you, for whoever says it. Really weird home road splits for Tyreek Hill.ree yes very strange he's played four games at home this year he has 16 catches for 150 yards which is terrible 22 catches for 403 on the road that it is weird and uh where's their next game it's at dallas no it's at
Starting point is 00:38:01 dallas yeah we're gonna be starting tyree kill again. And just so you know, this was kind of last year as well. He only had 18 catches last year in eight home games. Okay, very strange. News and notes. Corey Davis was limited in practice. They've got Baltimore this week. Delaney Walker missed practice Monday. Danny Woodhead could be back in Week 11, so maybe someone to stash.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Joe Flacco could play this week, but we're not sure. And Alex Collins should get more work, as mentioned. A lot of Ravens news. Devontae Freeman has a sore shoulder. He should be fine. And the Chargers are getting linebacker Denzel Perryman back next week. That's a good guy in IDP as well. Linebacker Denzel Perryman next week.
Starting point is 00:38:44 They have a bye this week, and Perryman should be back next week. Do you expect the following players this week? Charles Clay? No. Nope. Kenny Galladay? No. Devontae Parker?
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yes. Sure. Emmanuel Sanders? Not only so. Oh, yes? That's at least the word coming out of yesterday Was that he expects to return this week Mike Wallace
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yes I wanted to do something fun today Because it's Halloween Unfortunately like this most jam packed show I think we're going to do it anyway We're going to do a draft A three person draft Of three or four rounds
Starting point is 00:39:24 Who wants the first pick? I'll let you guys decide Right now We're going to do a draft, a three-person draft of three or four rounds. Who wants the first pick? I'll let you guys decide. You want anybody? You're doing that today? Right now. It's going to take two minutes. Rest of the season? Draft?
Starting point is 00:39:33 It's a draft. Okay. It's a snake draft. I will take the third pick. Jamie, you want first or second? Just give me Le'Veon Bell and go to two. Okay. It's not a player draft.
Starting point is 00:39:43 It's a Halloween candy draft. Ready? Here we go, real quick. Sure. All right. Jamie, first pick. M&M's. What flavor?
Starting point is 00:39:54 Plain. M&M's, okay. I'll take the second pick, peanut butter cups, Reese's peanut butter cups. That's a very good pick, Adam. Thank you. I'll go mini Snickers. Mini Snickers, you have two picks here. Oh, I'll go mini Snickers and, oh, man, Kit Kat.
Starting point is 00:40:18 That's a good one. I always forget about Kit Kat. I am going to take a Take 5, most underrated candy that you've never heard of. Take 5 is the fifth overall pick. Jamie, you're on the clock with M&M's. Three Musketeers. Don't like it. Not a good pick. What else you got? You got back-to-back picks.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I'll take peanut M&M's. Peanut M&M's? Very nice. This is our last round. Do I take peanut butter M&Ms? I already have the peanut butter cups. I'm going to go with Skittles. I'll take Reese's Pieces.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Reese's Pieces. Okay, that's a good candy draft, guys. Congratulations. Wanted to spend more time on it, but that would be irresponsible today. Let's go to the drop-o-meter. Andre Ellington and Adrian Peterson. Don't drop Adrian Peterson. He might be a top ten running back this week.
Starting point is 00:41:10 He is a top ten running back this week. Ellington, I'd like. You can drop him for most of these exciting guys in the waiver wire, so I'll say seven, but I wouldn't mind holding on for one more week just to see. Okay, don't drop Peterson. This is from David. for one more week just to see. Okay. Don't drop Peterson. This is from David. Devontae Parker, 0-10.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Three. Four. I just want to tell you that his first three games, Devontae Parker was on pace for 96 catches, 1,200 yards, five touchdowns, 150 fantasy points, which would have made him the number 11 wide receiver last year in standard scoring, and even much better in PPR. So there's no chance I'm dropping him. He's Devontae Floyd. He's Devontae Parker.
Starting point is 00:41:58 You guys were third-year breakout, third-year breakout, here it comes, and we got it. We haven't given up on him yet. Don't at all. No way. But the rest of the tweet said 10-team half third-year breakout. Here it comes. And we got it. We haven't given up on him yet. Don't at all. No way. The rest of the tweet said 10-team half PPR as well. I don't care. I mean, no way am I dropping him. I'd rather have Smith-Schuster.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I'd rather have Marvin Jones. I'd rather have Sterling Shepard. Yep. Okay. From Christopher. Willie Sneed. Yeah, gone. Yep. Okay. From Christopher. Willie Sneed. Yeah, gone. Ten.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Ten. From Justin. Pierre Garçon. Zero. Eight. Ooh. Okay. What are you hoping for at this point?
Starting point is 00:42:37 I'm hoping that in two weeks, Jimmy Garoppolo is the starting quarterback, and he's better. They're on a bye in two weeks. Okay Garoppolo is the starting quarterback, and he's better. They're on a bye in two weeks. Okay, three. I mean, look, that could happen, but... You'd rather have Parker than Garston? Yes. Yeah, I would not. How about... Who else did he... Oh, Jordan Matthews. Yeah, gone.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Nine. And Josh Doxson. Five. Nine. And Josh Doxson? Five. Yeah, yeah. I'll say the same thing I said on Parker, whatever that was. Four. Okay, let's go to Devin Funchess. Only two games with more than six points in standard,
Starting point is 00:43:18 and in his last three games he has eight fantasy points combined. Devin Funchess is 94%. Where is he on the drop-o-meter? Five. Three. Really? That's it? I'd rather have Funchess than Doxson.
Starting point is 00:43:31 He's getting more targets. Would you rather have Funchess than Robbie Anderson or Paul Richardson? I would not. Okay. This is from Nick. Rob Kelly Seven Yeah, I might say six That offensive line does not appear to be getting healthy
Starting point is 00:43:56 To its fullest Anytime soon And look at the matchups At Seattle and Minnesota in the next two games The one thing that Kelly has going in his favor is that Chris Thompson has three fumbles this season. So maybe they dial down the carries a little bit for Thompson. He's their only good offensive player besides Kirk Cousins. He could fumble every ten times he touches the ball and still be better than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Oh, he is, but I just think that maybe the carries go to Kelly. Thompson's still going to be their leading receiver or whatever. Okay, from Tim, Terrell Pryor. I liked him better in see no evil, hear no evil rather than see no passes, catch no passes. 150. That's pretty good. And finally, Isaiah Crowell, guys. Just had his best game of the season.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I know, but now he's got a bye, and he had one good game this year. So Isaiah Crowell, 0-10. Five. I mean, I'm not holding him if I have the chance to get any of the Cowboys or Dolphins guys right now just to see what happens. I guess that's true. I'll say four. Okay. I said finally on that, but I'll actually go finally on this.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Devontae Adams and Jordy Nelson. One or two. Yeah, I'm not dropping them yet. There's a chance after this week that that number is going way up. Well, then, back to the waiver wire, and we'll just kind of pick up the scraps because we did cover most of it. Waiver wire quarterbacks, refreshing your memory. Jamie likes Josh McCown the best.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Now, this is a Bills defense that's been good against quarterbacks, refreshing your memory. Jamie likes Josh McCown the best. Now, this is a Bills defense that's been good against quarterbacks, but you see that they've allowed 300 yards to a passer in three straight games, Jamie, so you're more optimistic this week? It's a short week, and I don't know if they're getting Poyer or Gaines back. And so I'll say what I said Sunday morning. If the game was in Oakland, I would have said Derek Carr was going to have a big day. And maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. But I think circumstances played a part in how they performed against Oakland in that game.
Starting point is 00:45:56 On the road, early start, weather, all those things. This is a game in East Rutherford, New Jersey for the Jets. And so I think with the way McCown is playing, will he be 22-plus points, which he's been each of the last three weeks? No. Will he be 17-plus points, which he's been each of the last four? That's probably closer to where I think he will finish. And you'd start him over Matt Ryan, right?
Starting point is 00:46:22 Low-end starter. You'd start him over Matt Ryan? I would start him over Matt Ryan. I would start him over Matt Ryan. I would start him over Kirk Cousins. I would start him over Jameis as of now because Jameis makes me nervous. So there's three guys that you probably would be starting most weeks. Cool. And so after McCown for Jamie, it's Jacoby Brissett and Jay Cutler. But those guys, I mean, you don't really want to have to go to them.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Would you start? Actually, Brissette is my favorite streamer this week. Is he? More than McCown. More than McCown. And do you have Brissette over Cousins and Ryan and guys like that? Over a few of them. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Let me just pull it up. And this will change over the next couple of days. But I would definitely rather start Brissette than Cousins. You know the interesting one? It's going to be Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Against Denver. Now I have Wentz and Brissette back to back. Brissette really hasn't been good. Last week he had 19 fantasy points. I think that's the second best game he had all season. It's a tough call. Good matchup.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah, it's a much better matchup, that's for sure. And then Jay Cutler is, you know, you're hoping there. Also, Ryan Fitzpatrick, keep an eye on him if he starts at New Orleans. Jamie said he'd start Fitzpatrick over – he'd probably put Fitzpatrick over Brissette and Cutler, but not McCown. Heath, where would you put Fitzpatrick? Behind Brissette and McCown. So then, let me ask you guys, how do you feel about the following players?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Drew Stanton at San Francisco. No. No, okay San Francisco. No. No. Okay. C.J. Beathard against Arizona. All I'm doing here is looking at teams that give up fantasy points to quarterbacks. No. No.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Jared Goff at the Giants. No. I don't hate that. He's behind McCown and Brissett, but he's ahead of Cousins. And Eli Manning in that game? No. Okay. No.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Manning's behind all of them. Let's go to the running backs. Running backs, so the shallow leagues guys, we didn't talk about these guys, but Deion Lewis, 75% owned. It's a bye this week and then Denver next week, so probably waiting a while before you're comfortable with Deion Lewis, but he's available in 25% of leagues. Marlon Mack.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And, yeah, look, everything changes if Frank Gore gets traded by the time you hear this podcast or by the time you do your waivers. And Orleans Darkwa is another guy. These guys are owned in more than 65% of leagues. So is Matt Forte. So it's Lewis, Mack, Darkwa, and Forte. And Heath, your favorite there would be who? Well, it would be Forte, and then it would be Darkwa.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Okay. And if Gore gets traded, Marlon Mack becomes a super-duper priority? Yes. All right. There's a chance Gore gets traded, Marlon Mack becomes a super-duper priority? Yes. All right. There's a chance Gore gets traded, so let me just ask. Why do we – like who's trading for Frank Gore? There was a – oh, you know what? It was the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Philly was the rumor. It was the Eagles. Okay, I'll dial back on that. You wonder, though, if – I mean, would Seattle consider it? They get in for nothing? I don't, yeah, I don't think there's any chance that Frank Gore's making that situation work any better than Thomas Rawls. Oh, I'm not saying for him. I'm saying for Mack, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Oh. To open the door for Mack. Right. I don't think Frank Gore going anywhere makes things better for Frank Gore. No, I'm trying to understand from the team that he would be going to. Why are they giving something up to have Frank Gore on their team? Pass protection. He's great in pass protection.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Yeah, I mean, I think for a rental, like if you're the Seahawks right now and you're watching Rawls go six carries for minus one yard and Lacey goes six for one and McKissick is not really a running back and CJ Proseis can't stay healthy. Right. If you could get Frank Gore for a sixth-round pick, knowing that you're going to be in the playoffs. You know who should take Frank Gore? The Dolphins Bring him back home I bet he would study the playbook Bring him back home There you go
Starting point is 00:50:34 So forget that then But still there's long term potential for Marlon Mack And then we talked Alex Collins McFadden and Morris Other guys on the list Matt Breida, Matt Brita, Chris Ivory, Devante Booker. Jamie, I think I may have missed someone. Tell me if there's anybody else other than Collins and the Cowboys running backs that you're really interested in.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I mean, if you got an open roster spot, I would speculate on Brita just because the 49ers may start to just see what their future is, and the touches may start to tilt one way or the other. You saw last week that he led them in receiving. Now, Hyde still had more targets, and I don't think this is happening anytime soon. But again, they're starting to get into that mode with the trade that they made. And if they're not going to re-sign Hyde, why not see if Brita can be a significant contributor for them? Tell me how you feel about these guys, any level of excitement for the Seattle running back.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I know we already did this, but we'll do it again. Seattle running backs with Dwayne Brown's addition. Not unless there's a guy that they commit to. Oakland running backs other than Lynch. Not with him back. That was so gross. Jamal Charles. Not particularly.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Danny Woodhead. Not yet. Yeah, because there is the report that he could be back by Week 11, but I think that's just saying he's eligible to play by Week 11. They have said that they don't expect him to practice this week. Okay. James Conner, 20% owned. Nah.
Starting point is 00:52:04 No. All right. You can drop Gillislee, Smallwood, Deontay Foreman, Rob Kelly. Let's go to the wide receivers then, the ones that we have not discussed. We did talk about this group. Juju, Sterling Shepard, Marvin Jones, Sanu, Rashard Matthews, and Alan Hearns. Jamie, you said Matthews and Hearns are at the bottom of that list? Matthews and Hearns are at the bottom of the list, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Okay, so the top four are Smith-Schuster, Sterling Shepard, Marvin Jones, and Mohamed Sanu. And I'll still take Shepard first. Over Juju. Yeah, Shepard, I mean, we don't know what to expect. He just hasn't played really without Beckham other than week one when he was terrible. But he has had one good play the entire season. His whole year was a catch and run against the Eagles. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:56 73% owned. What do you expect from Sterling Shepard? Top 25 wide receiver. Hopefully. This week or going forward? Going forward Rest of season And this week
Starting point is 00:53:09 I feel it's more likely to be in PPR Worry about touchdowns They suck Like they never get in the red zone We've got evidence already of him scoring touchdown every other game But he did last year No, but he has one touchdown this year But he's got nine in 20 career games.
Starting point is 00:53:27 There you go. Yeah. Okay, so here are the other guys. Paul Richardson, Robbie Anderson, Corey Davis, Macklin. This week, Macklin, how much do you like him at Tennessee? I like him better than Shepard. Yeah, he's a number three for me. What if Mike Wallace plays?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Still. He's a low end number three for me. Okay. Josh Doxson, Tyler Lockett, Jamison Crowder. It's just a shame for any Redskin that they are at Seattle and home against Minnesota in their next two games.
Starting point is 00:54:02 But Tyler Lockett, Jamison Crowder, Marquise Lee, and D.D. Westbrook, for that matter, and Travis Benjamin, who's on a bye this week and really should have had two touchdown passes or catches last week. What a terrible call on that pass interference, offensive pass interference that negated a Benjamin touchdown. Big mistake there by the officials. All right, anything you want to talk about that we have not discussed already, guys?
Starting point is 00:54:26 I already mentioned how I felt about Lockett, so no. Okay. I think that Richard Matthews, Corey Davis' situation is an interesting one. Any of those three guys could be the best Titans wide receiver rest of season. But I'm hoping it's Corey Davis. So Richardson, I think my favorite is Robbie Anderson. It's kind of a toss-up, Jamie, to you between Anderson and Richardson? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I'm not sure overall that I'm going too crazy on wide receivers this week. How do you guys feel about that? No, same. Okay. Agreed. Yeah, I would like to get the guy that goes for like 8% of my fab budget, whichever one it is. I don't really care.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Similar, like you made the comment last week, so you get dropped with six teams on a buy. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so let's go to tight ends now. We've got Tyler Croft and Jared Cook in shallower leagues. They're owned in 78% and 73% of leagues, respectively. Tyler Croft and Jared Cook. Who do you prefer from those two?
Starting point is 00:55:32 Croft. I like Cook better this week. I like Cook better this week, too. I like Croft better long-term. Cook, it looks like, is actually set up for a pretty nice schedule at Miami. A bye, which is bad, but then New England, Denver, and the Giants, and the Chiefs, and Dallas. Actually, other than the bye, I don't see one team on Jared Cook's remaining
Starting point is 00:55:54 schedule that is a bad matchup for him. So that's something to keep in mind. Then again, looks like Croft doesn't have a bad one, doesn't have that bad of a schedule either. So hooray. Other tight ends that are more available, we've got Jack Doyle. That's right. He's our favorite, right?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yep. And then would you go with Vernon Davis, or would you go with Tyler Croft or Jared Cook? I would go Cook over Davis Over Croft I'd go Croft, Cook, Davis Croft, Cook, Davis Interesting
Starting point is 00:56:34 How come? I feel like Davis is a stud every time he plays And Jordan Reed's hurt But who knows when Reed's coming back What if it was just for this week? Oh, this week, yeah I would take Davis over Croft I'd go Cook, Davis it was just for this week? Oh, this week, yeah. I would take Davis over Croft. I'd go Cook, Davis, Croft for this week.
Starting point is 00:56:49 But still Doyle first? Yes. Okay. And then is this the week? Is this the week the Giants keep a tight end out of the end zone as they face the Rams? I don't think it is. I don't feel comfortable projecting which one of them is going to score, though. I mean, Higby's the one that's gotten more targets, so I would take him.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Ed Dixon, he's not good. And then the Falcons are Dixon's matchup this week, and they're very good against tight ends. Austin Hooper is at Carolina. Ben Watson is at Tennessee. And Heath, you said you kind of like Ben Watson? I expect him to get more than four targets because most games he has, and I think whoever the quarterback is is going to lean on him. I think he's only scored twice, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Both touchdowns have come from Mallett. Oh, that's interesting. Have we heard anything about Joe Flacco? I believe Harbaugh said that he has a chance to play. That's right. Which is very, very concrete. Greg Olson is 49% or what was it, week 12 for Olson? Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And he is supposed to be back at practice this week. Okay. Jonu Smith for the Titans if Delaney Walker misses the game. Where would you rank Jonu Smith if Walker's out? I think we actually did rank Jonu Smith as if Walker was out, right? Top 20. I don't really have a ton of faith. Yeah, I've got him 17.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Adam Shaheen is 1% owned, and Zach Miller is going to be out for the season. So Shaheen, you know, there's a reason he's last on the list. Jack Doyle's the prize. Vernon Davis is an option. Tyler Croft, Jared Cook, maybe's a reason he's last on the list. Jack Doyle's the prize. Vernon Davis is an option. Tyler Croft, Jared Cook. Maybe Cook more suited for this week. Those are the tight ends you're going to really be targeting. Maybe you take a shot on Ben Watson.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Hooper, real quick expectations for Hooper this week? Hooper's one of those guys I just want to watch this week. I want to see if the increased targets from last week stick with Sanu still there. That was the first game this year, I think, where Sanu's been there, and he's gotten more than two targets. More than two, yeah, for sure. All right, DSTs, we mentioned some earlier. Let's do it again.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Jamie, your favorite DSTs for this week are? Cardinals. Titans. Cardinals, Titans, Giants, Lions. And Cardinals, Titans, Giants, Lions. And Cardinals, Titans, Giants, Lions. But if the Rams are available, where would you put the Rams? Cardinals, Rams, Titans, Giants, Lions. And if the Saints are available, I'd put them ahead of everybody.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I'd put them behind the Cardinals, but I'm with you. Great. And the Lions, as I mentioned, they have Green Bay this week, then Cleveland, then the Bears. So that's three good matchups in a row for them. And Houston is a long shot because they're 85% owned, but a lot of people don't like to carry two DSTs. So you do see teams get dropped. They faced Seattle last week. Houston's 85% owned.
Starting point is 00:59:39 They have the Colts, who give up the most fantasy points to DSTs. Do you have any interest in the Raiders, 24% owned at Miami, and Miami gives up the second most fantasy points? No, their defense is bad. I think the Dolphins are going to win that game. All right, that's going to wrap up DST. Let's see if we can fire through. I know it's a long show today, but it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:59:57 We've got a lot of content today. Let's see if we can get through some emails real quick. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. Brian says, Dear Charlie, Linus, Schroeder, and Franklin. Charlie Brown? That's Peanuts, right? Yep. 12-team PPR.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Should I drop David Johnson to pick up Danny Woodhead? No. Yeah, I don't think that. We're going to stash one. Stash the one that has much more upside. Right. Jason wants to know who's better in a keeper league, Leonard Fournette or Ezekiel Elliott?
Starting point is 01:00:31 Well, if the suspension holds, then Zeke will be able to play all 16 games next season without a problem. If the appeal is somehow won by Elliott's side in the NFLPA, then the suspension is probably going to be served next year. So I will take Elliott if the suspension holds. Yeah, if you're out of it and you're only considering 2018 and beyond, I would take Elliott.
Starting point is 01:00:57 If you factor in 2017 as well, then I would take Fournette. From Brian, dear toothpaste-flavored Bean Boozle, my quarterbacks are Luck and Winston in a 10-team PPR league. Should I give up Melvin Gordon to get Deshaun Watson? I'm not. I mean, I get it in your situation, but that is a lot to give up for Watson. From Quinn, grade the trade. Give Jarvis Landry and Devante Adams. Get DeAndre Hopkins.
Starting point is 01:01:31 A plus. I mean, like, how did you pull that off? And Eric in Maryland, Tyler Croft or Vernon Davis this week? Davis. Vern. Come on, Verno. Vern. Come on, Verno. Vern. Come on, Verno.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Name that movie. That's pretty bad. Come on, guys. It's Stand By Me. Everybody knows that. We're out of here. Happy Halloween, everybody. See you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Bye. It's alright. I've got Le'Veon. It's alright. Not George Le'Veon. It's alright. I've got Le'Veon back. Bye.

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