Fantasy Football Today - 10/31: Start or Sit (AFC); Halloween-Themed Awards (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 31, 2019

After some quick add/drop and Kicker advice we give our Halloween-themed Midseason Awards (6:40)! The Peanut Butter Cup Award for our Fantasy MVP, the Freddy Krueger Award and more ... Our Tullamore D...ew Players of the Week (12:30) are some RBs who you may not typically start but could have big games this week. Then we've got some Stats to Know (16:55) and Sixty-Second Rankings Disputes (25:10) for a couple of Colts, Mark Walton and a DST. Plus news and notes (30:30) and "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" (35:50) for the games we cover more thoroughly later in the show ... NE-BAL (39:40), HOU-JAC (48:00), IND-PIT (56:15), DET-OAK (1:02:40), CLE-DEN (1:08:00), WAS-BUF (1:11:00), NYJ-MIA (1:13:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Get your lineup set. It's time for Start or Sit.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. All right, what an exciting day, everybody. Happy Halloween, and welcome to Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisberg, Heath Cummings, happy Halloween, guys. How's your spooky, spooky morning going? Spooky. Spooky.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Good. No trick-or-treaters yet, so that's good. There will be no trick-or-treaters at all at my house what is uh what is andrew doing for halloween uh we have a where's waldo get up for him i don't think he's gonna put the glasses on he's just going to try to break them but everything else should be good uh it's gonna be fun are you wearing your are you wearing your giant onesie around the neighborhood no no i i was going to buy a Dwight Schrute costume and wear it on the show today, but when I went to buy it, it was sold out.
Starting point is 00:02:08 So I don't have a costume. Are you going to take him to the park and then play Where's Waldo? Sit him down and turn around and play hide and seek? We're just going to leave him alone. That's probably not smart to do with his child. Yeah, just trying to find him. No, we're just going to, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:02:24 we're going to walk around't know we're gonna walk around with our with uh his cousins and have some fun it's gonna be great we got some halloween awards today fantasy mvp and lvp but halloween themed uh we could say trick or treat instead of start or sit if we want that'd be fun and jamie what wild animal is on your face right now what is going on with your face? I'm going full start of the week. I'm supporting Gardner Minshew, so I decided to wear the Minshew. I don't look as good as Heath does, but I decided to shave the Minshew
Starting point is 00:02:53 just in honor of Minshew being the start of the week. Well, that is pretty interesting. It's a trend. It's happening. Dave, you're next. Maybe. And Adam's like two months away, soner max chew could exist oh gosh all right well it looks good i guess and uh let's let's get into the uh let's get into the show all right we
Starting point is 00:03:13 got a lot there are so many afc home games by the way uh this week there are only like four nfc home games or something like that so not all the afc home games will be on today's show. But even the Jets-Dolphins game is pretty interesting from a fantasy perspective. Can you trust any Browns this week? Obviously, you're going to start Nick Chubb. But what about Odell Beckham? Is he once again going to be crappy? Deshaun Watson, can he break his history against Jacksonville? But before we get into starter set, I want to ask you about some sneaky ad drops. Because one guy we didn't talk about on the Waiver Wire show was Chris Thompson, who might be back this week. And they have a bye next week.
Starting point is 00:03:49 They got Buffalo this week. But is Chris Thompson a must-own in PPR? And would you rather own Thompson or Darius Geis? Both of these guys are available in some leagues. I know they're Redskins running backs. But what do you think about Thompson and Geis right now, guys? Are they good ads? I'd much rather stash Geis, no pun intended,
Starting point is 00:04:08 than pick up Chris Thompson at this point. Yeah, I think Geis has a lot more upside. And Thompson is a must-own when we know that he's a full go and he's playing in PPR. But he's not someone that has a high enough profile that I'm going to stash him weeks before he comes back. If you tell me he's playing this week and he plays, he'll probably score eight or nine PBR points, and then I'm going to want to add him next week.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah, on a bye, though. Add him two weeks. Yeah, there you go. You'll want him for week 11 against the Jets. Jets, Lions, Panthers, Packers are the four games for the Redskins coming out of the bye, so maybe Darius Geist's not a bad player to pick up. It's possible they could just turn him loose and say, all right,
Starting point is 00:04:47 Adrian Peterson, you had fun. Now you're getting, you know, five carries a game. You think that realistic? I doubt it, but you know,
Starting point is 00:04:54 it should be a situation where he's the primary guy. I mean, they're, they have, I mean, there's such a poorly run franchise, but they have to start to look at 2020 and say, okay,
Starting point is 00:05:03 is Haskins our guy is Geis our guy. They have two young players that could be, you know, prominent figures for them in their offense. And if they don't find out if they're any good, what's the point? Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Jeff Wilson tonight at Arizona, Trey Edmonds for Pittsburgh. Do you have any interest in those two guys? Sort of the backups, you know, the backups. I think all the 49ers are healthy, right? We don't know which ones will be active
Starting point is 00:05:28 or inactive. I don't know Mostert, but Brita sounds like he's fine. The only way you'd consider Wilson is if Brita and Mostert were inactive. It's the only way. You won't know that until 90 minutes before kick. What about Trey Edmonds? You could stash Trey Edmonds in the deepest of leagues.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We know that Connor didn't practice on Wednesday, neither did Benny Snell. Full practice for Jalen Samuels, though, so could be an opportunity for any guy. And then Edmonds would be the backup to him. Yeah, all right, so no. And then I was just going through my lineups yesterday. I have some leagues that you can't make transactions the day of,
Starting point is 00:06:04 so you've got to make sure you get your Thursday guys squared away in case there are injuries or anything. And I came across Zane Gonzalez, who's been really good, kicker for the Cardinals. But I dropped him. I think I dropped him. I put in a claim. I'm assuming I dropped him.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I don't think anybody else is going after kickers right now. Because the Niners, look, we don't talk about this a lot. The Niners are third. They give up the third-fewest points to kickers don't talk about this a lot. The Niners are third. They give up the third fewest points to kickers. You don't score a lot. I could feel really stupid if the Cardinals score 12 points tonight on four field goals, but just want to know. That's what we're all cheering for now.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Just want to know your thoughts on that. I mean, how high do you have Zane Gonzalez ranked? Should we get away from him this week in a tough matchup? I still have him 12th. I can't get away from him as a starter. I sunk him. I dropped him in a few leagues too. He's been my kicker as well. I would try
Starting point is 00:06:51 and get away from Zane Gonzalez if you can. Brett Maher with Dallas is better. Nick Folk is available everywhere. Nick Folk is a great one. Mike Badgley. I got Gonzalez. I had a Badgley. Is Nick Folk a great one? Because he might not be that good of a great one. Mike Badgley. Mike Badgley, yeah. Badgley. But is Nick Folk – I got Gonzales. I had a Badgley.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Is Nick Folk a great one? Because he might not be that good of a kicker. I mean, the Pats – We don't know. He hasn't kicked in like two years. It's the Thursday show, and we spent like four minutes on a kicker now. Come on. It's for you, Heath. Happy Halloween.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Okay. So let's make Heath happy. Let's do our Halloween awards. So the first award is called the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup Award. It goes to the best of the best, the fantasy MVP, clearly the best candy. Ooh, spooky music. Halloween beats Home Alone. Reese's Peanut Butter Cup Award, who is your fantasy MVP so far?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Lamar Jackson. I think he scored the most points and he was available in the double digit rounds. That makes him the easy choice as the MVP. I think you're wrong about the points though. I think Deshaun Watson has scored more points. Points per game.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Well. Okay. Any other MVPs? Come on. The patriots the sd is literally the mvp i'll stay in the theme of following i'll go uh michael mike michael myers thomas michael myers thomas the number one ppr wide receiver okay it's the big i mean this yeah good i can't say this this despite despite having the quarterback situation being what it was, he hasn't let you down. That's true.
Starting point is 00:08:29 That's a good point. Dave, MVP? I think the Patriots DST definitely qualifies as a fantasy MVP. People might have drafted them. Oh, pat yourself on the back, man. Take the victory lap on the guy you touted all season. Who? Waller?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. He's not bad either. But Patriots DST, people took them late. I like them because I thought their early season schedule after week one was good. Turned out every single game they play, they just have something fortunate happen for their DST. And they've helped me off to some great records in a lot of the leagues that we play in together. Waller is definitely somebody who's helped. DJ Chark, top 5-10 receiver in fantasy this year, points per game.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He's been a great find as well. All right, next award is the Yellow Starburst Award, also known as the Orange Starburst Award. They're both terrible. The Fantasy LVP. Isn't it Pink Starburst Awards? Oh, what? You're all way off base.
Starting point is 00:09:21 No, the pink and the red are good, and the orange and the yellow are terrible. Nothing's worse than the house on Halloween that gives out that brown and orange wrap candy with nothing on the wrapper. You don't know what's inside. It's just like a random generic candy. Ooh, I don't know that. You live in a strange neighborhood. I once had people give me bread for Halloween.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's crazy. Zach Ertz is the LVP. Come on, Heath. Let's talk about candy. Well, he's giving you some good games. Zach Ertz? I'd go Le'Veon. Let's talk about candy.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Le'Veon, okay. O.J. Howard. O.J. Howard. He was like a top. Him and A.J. Green. Top 60 pick. Both useless. Hopefully, A.J. Green can give us something starting in week 10.
Starting point is 00:10:04 But goodness gracious, they've been tough. Okay, so the LVP, the yellow Starburst. Which one's worse, yellow or orange? I think it actually might be orange. I think it's yellow. What a strange candy. Like, half of the package is crap, and yet I still really enjoy Starburst.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Alright, next award. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Award. The player you need to cut. I've got four. I've got four guys that we can cut. There's one winner, Dave. You've got to pick a winner. These are the nominations and you can pick the one that's the winner. I picked a winner.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Who's your winner? Auden Tate. He's not on my list. I get it. Go ahead. Larry Fitzgerald. LaShawn McCoy. Okay. He's not on my list, but I get it. Okay. Go ahead. Jamie. Go ahead. Larry Fitzgerald. LaShawn McCoy.
Starting point is 00:10:51 No way. Jarvis Landry. Sammy Watkins. I think the winner is odd and tight. Yeah. I think Jarvis Landry is on pace for like over 12, about almost 1,200 yards and no touchdowns. That's correct. He gets me six or seven.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And I kind of like him this week against Denver with them putting Chris Harris on Beckham. If they do that. I think they will. He's also on pace for like 62 catches or something, which is very, very weird for him, for Jarvis Landry. And 16 yards per catch, which is also weird. I got Kenny Stills as a guy to cut. What do you think? He's like 80% on him. You can cut him. Sure. Because you have to like guy to cut. What do you think? He's like 80% owned.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Sure. Because you have to like him this week. If you're not going to use him this week. The guys I named are all owned in like 85% plus. Like, widely owned. I don't know why. Alright, and finally. I guess just bench depth. The Freddy Krueger Award.
Starting point is 00:11:41 The Freddy Krueger Award. The player that will haunt your dreams forever. Ooh, spooky. What do we got? Does it have to be a player from this year? No. It can be a player from the past. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:56 All right. I put that in the e-mail. Oh, Ronnie Hillman. I've got another Broncos running back. The cockroach. Monte Ball. Oh. Remember spending a first-round pick on Monte Ball?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Mm-hmm. No, of course. No one ever did that. Why would we ever? Mine was Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson keeps you up at night, Heath. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 He scares me because he always, like, you don't know when he's going to have the game where he throws 25 passes and four touchdowns, and he's a lot better than i thought it was going to be or the game where he throws 25 passes and zero touchdowns so just start him what's he going to do this week against tampa bay uh it's tampa bay so i'd presume he's going to be good but 28 passes 28 passes 26 touchdowns yeah all right, those are your Halloween awards. Do you guys have any? Oh, there should have been a Butterfinger. You know, I'm sort of interested in trying the new Butterfinger
Starting point is 00:12:54 because they say it's improved. We've talked about this. Yeah. Yeah. I'm into it. I'll do it. Mark Walton is the player that's going to surprise us in week nine. Time for our Tullibore news segment. He's moving is the player that's going to surprise us in week nine. Time for our Telemore Dew segment.
Starting point is 00:13:06 He's moving right along. It's game time. It's telly time. It's time for your player of the week presented by Telemore Dew. Dave, Jamie, and Heath are going to give us a player that could surprise us in week nine. Heath, who is your Telemore Dew player of the week? Mark Walton. Good matchup against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I think it's better than what the numbers said. We kind of said this with Gardner Minshew last week, that they look like they're really good in terms of certain stats against quarterbacks, but I didn't think their defense was that good. Their run defense actually was pretty good, but now they're missing some key players, and I don't think they will be anymore. I expect somewhere around 15 to 17 touches,
Starting point is 00:13:38 75 to 80 yards, and hopefully a touchdown. They've allowed either 98 total yards or a touchdown to a running back in every game. If that trend continues, Walton's just... I've been nudging him up, but it's just hard to trust the Dolphins running back. It's been so tough. It's been ugly.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I think the 70 total yards is probably safe if he gets that workload. The frustrating thing, though, is going to be watching Kalen Balazs score three times. It's going to be one of those games where he's the one that falls in the end zone twice. All right. Well, I think we actually have Walton in our 60-second rankings dispute, so we'll talk about that. Dave, you're Player of the Week, Surprising Player of the Week. How about Devin Singletary, who got a lot more playing time last week? I think that's because the Bills were playing from behind, but Buffalo should be in a situation
Starting point is 00:14:22 where they'll be able to run the ball very well against Washington. I originally liked Frank Gore a lot this weekend. As I thought about it, I went, you know what? Devin Singletary seems to be the guy that's been getting more explosive runs than Frank Gore. I think that goes without saying. And there's been a lot of talk in Buffalo this week, certainly from the coaches as well about Devin Singletary and how they want to get the ball in their playmakers hands. And I think that he just qualifies better than that. And I think he'll get more touches than Frank Gore. I've got Singletary as a low end number two fantasy running back this week. So it's kind of,
Starting point is 00:14:52 I believe they really haven't used him in the, in the first half of many games. Did he and Gore split first half snaps last week? They were dead. Even he still doesn't have 10 touches in a game. I know this will be the, that's amazing. I currently have him benched in PPR for Chris Thompson,
Starting point is 00:15:07 and I could see myself really struggling with that. Chris Thompson? Yeah, Thompson or Singletary. He didn't practice on Wednesday. I wouldn't even put Chris Thompson near an active spot. I think you should play the guy that's going to play. Okay, yes, that would be an easy call. But if Chris Thompson plays, which at the beginning of the week,
Starting point is 00:15:25 it seemed like he was on track. All right, you'd still play Singletary? All right. I think he's got a better chance to score. Jamie, who's your Telemordu player of the week? I'm going to go back to what I said about Singletary last week and use it for the guy that's in a similar role. I said that Singletary would play well against the Eagles
Starting point is 00:15:38 because they can't defend pass-catching running backs, and he had four catches for 30 yards and a touchdown. So I think the same thing with three Cohen this week, you know, you're looking at a scenario of, I think the bears are trailing. I think the bears are going to be losing this game. He's brought this up last week about the numbers for both Montgomery and
Starting point is 00:15:54 Cohen and games that they've lost. Now, last week was a little different one because the game was back and forth and it was close, but, and you look three of the four games where they've lost so far this year, he's been 10 or more PPR points. So I think this is a game where threeariq Cohen, not in non-PPR
Starting point is 00:16:07 because he's just a disaster in that format, but I think you're going to see him in the 5-plus catch range again. Hopefully it's more than 19 yards, as we saw earlier this year. He had a 9-for-19 game. But I think in PPR, he's at least a flex and a potential starter for you. I like him better than Montgomery in PPR. All right, so our players that could surprise you this week. Mark Walton for Heath, Devin Singletary for Dave,
Starting point is 00:16:28 Tariq Cohen for Jamie. Is Walton the best of that group? By far. I've got Singletary higher for now. Wow. Really? You know how I feel about Dolphins running backs. I don't want to trust them if I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But the Bills running backs are safe? Against Washington, I think so. Against the Jets? I don't know how good the Dolphins are. I don't know where the correlation here is. If you're saying safety and matchup, I think they kind of go hand in hand. Singletary is a better player. I wouldn't be surprised if Singletary had as many touches as Walton.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Oh, let's make a bet. Please, let's make a bet on touches. Please, let's make a bet on touches. Between Walton and Singletary had as many touches as Walton. Oh, let's make a bet. Please let's make a bet on touches. That would be surprising. Any bet you want. Jamie has to grow a hideous mustache. Oh, damn it. Any bet you want on touches. If they're both healthy.
Starting point is 00:17:19 By the way, you can see Jamie's hideous mustache. It's really not that bad. On YouTube.com slash FantasyFootballToday. Check out our video product. YouTube. It's not really not that bad. Uh, on youtube.com slash fantasy football today. Check out our video product, youtube.com slash fantasy football today. Getting into the, uh, the stats and the rankings.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Wait, did we get a bet? No. Okay. That's disappointing. Letting you work that out. We got another day. We'll work something out.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Uh, stats to know Cleveland allows the seventh most fantasy points to running backs, 4.7 yards per carry to running backs. So they've given up the seventh most fantasy points to running backs. Phillip Lindsey's already faced the teams that give up the sixth and the eighth most fantasy points to running backs, and he's had huge games, 24 or more PPR points both times. So I've been crapping on Phillip Lindsey for a while. I kind of like Phillip Lindsey
Starting point is 00:18:02 this week. How about you guys? I actually think Royce Freeman could be really interesting because Lindsey mispracticed with I've been crapping on Philip Lindsay for a while. I kind of like Philip Lindsay this week. How about you guys? Of course. I actually think Royce Freeman could be really interesting because Lindsay mispracticed with a wrist injury, and that was the injury that knocked him out for the season last year in Week 17. So if he's out, Royce Freeman would be an absolute monster. Absolute monster. Yeah, but that is true. But what if Lindsay's in?
Starting point is 00:18:20 I'll play them both. Yeah, it's just a matter of the quarterback situation being what it is. Is it just stack the box and make Brandon Allen throw? And that could be a disaster for them. So I think Lindsey kind of is what he is. He's a good number two running back. Will he be the one scoring, as we've seen from Freeman now to the last three games, or is he the one finding the end zone?
Starting point is 00:18:40 So at this point, I think you're clearly starting Lindsey, but I'd kind of like to see if he sat out a game just to see how good Royce Freeman could be in a future role. Also, I don't know. The Browns have played a very difficult schedule in terms of running teams. There are three games before the Patriots game, Seattle, San Francisco, Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:19:00 A lot of teams would rank high in terms of fantasy points allowed to running back. Of course. If they played those teams. Good point. Wide receivers against Denver will stay in this game. Just call this stats that are skewed for week 9. Staying in this game.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Wide receivers against Denver. Allen Robinson, Devontae Adams, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen, and T.Y. Hilton. They all failed to score double-digit fantasy points in PPR. Allen Robinson, Devontae Adams, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen, T.Y. Hilton. They all failed to score double-digit fantasy points in PPR. Allen Robinson, Devontae Adams, DJ Chark, Keenan Allen, T.Y. Hilton. Also, all of them have been better than Odell Beckham this year. So can we really start Beckham? I looked at your rankings. He's around 20th or so.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And with all the buys, I mean, I looked at all the guys behind him. It's not like there are these must-start guys behind him. So I get that. But do you want to start Beckham this week? No. I mean, I think I was the lowest on Beckham last week, and you're 100% right, Adam. If we had better receivers available, he'd be lower again. It's just hard to say start Devontae Parker over Odell Beckham, even though Parker's probably in a better spot. Emmanuel Sanders tonight, he's probably in a better spot.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Danny Amendola. Danny Amendola, perfect example. I'm really curious, though, with Denver, because list the teams again that Chris Harris has shut down. Allen Robinson, Devontae Adams, DJ Char, Keenan Allen, T.Y. Hilton. Okay, think about all those guys. There's not a good number two receiver on the field. Actually, some of the number two receivers did well.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I think MVS did well. But what I'm saying is there's not a number two receiver that you're scared of. And I know Jarvis Landry clearly is not at the level of Odell Beckham, and I'm sure Chris Harris is going to follow him around. But I just wonder if, you know, it's just, okay, you stay on one side of the field and we'll take away one guy because Landry's been playing well.
Starting point is 00:20:40 All right, another stat to know for the week, Matthew Stafford's having a career year. 105.3 passer rating is by far his best, as is 8.4 yards per attempt. And now he's coming off two straight monster games and is facing a team that gives up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Meanwhile, the Patriots allow the fewest fantasy points to running backs. But I have noticed, obviously we know the Patriots' schedule has been really easy. I have noticed three of their last five games kind of struggled against the run.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Frank Gore had 100 yards. Yeah, Le'Veon Bell had 15 for 70. Nick Chubb, they all averaged 4.7 yards per carry or better. Dave, how much do you like Mark Ingram? I like him as a number two running back this week. I can't put him in my top ten or anything like that, but yeah, i think this is a matchup that can be exploited it's just a matter of if the ravens really really stick to their run
Starting point is 00:21:29 game my guess is that they will and can he find the end zone because ingram has not had a lot of has he how many hundred yard games has he won this year right it's kansas right he hasn't had a lot of them so he kind of needs that touchdown but i think i think he's going to get the work that's the least you could ask for yeah i i think he's going to get the work. That's the least you could ask for. Yeah, I think he's going to be the first running back to score against the Patriots this season. They've yet to allow a touchdown to a running back so far. We had a good discussion about this on CBS Sports HQ yesterday with Drink Pete Prisco. And he's now debating Derrick Henry versus Mark Ingram.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And I think they're very similar. They're clearly touchdown dependent. They're not going to work a lot in the passing game. You could say Derrick Henry probably has the better matchup on paper just based on fantasy points allowed. I would lean slightly toward Ingram because I do think coming off the bye, fresh legs for a running back that's 29. Like you said, Adam, if Nick Chubb doesn't fumble twice in that game,
Starting point is 00:22:16 I think it's a little bit of a different ball game in terms of how things unfold there. And he may have even had a bigger performance. He may have scored. So you said it, you know, they're, they're not big upfront.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But Pete's point to this was that this is a bill Belichick scheme against what you think the Ravens do best and force Lamar Jackson into some uncomfortable situations, which he's done to, you know, quarterbacks like this time and time again. And so that's going to be, I think the chess match of this game is,
Starting point is 00:22:43 can they sort of try and bully their way against the Patriots and lean on time of possession, lean on their run game, sort of limit Lamar Jackson from having to be put in these tough spots. So it's going to be a fun game to sort of see it unfold. And I know, Heath, you're not poo-pooing Ingram. You have his number two running back. But it's just a matter of how good will Ingram be. Where's the ceiling, I think, for him?
Starting point is 00:23:04 Okay. So that's the first game we'll preview, that Patriots game. Everybody's got Lamar Jackson, I think, as a top seven quarterback. But you can get away from him. There are some options this week. Deontay Johnson, one more stat. Deontay Johnson has had six to eight targets in four straight games with Mason Rudolph. Johnson's 44% owned.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Six to eight targets. There have been six wide receivers with six to eight targets against the Colts. Five of them have 70 yards or a touchdown kind of interesting for Deontay Johnson and Tyra Williams. Last one here. He does lead the team in targets inside the 10 yard line green zone. And he does without that's with missing two games and four of his,
Starting point is 00:23:43 he says four, how many five touchdowns this year of them in the red zone, three of them from 11 yards out or closer. That's Tyrell Williams. It'd be interesting to see what Darius Slade is playing. Is he playing? He practiced yesterday. Yeah, he's been practicing for weeks and he still hasn't played.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Oh, yeah. No, it's really a huge deal. Darius Slade didn't play much against the Vikings, didn't play at all against the Giants. And two quarterbacks combined for, I think, eight touchdowns. And they both had about 330 yards. But now the trade deadline's passed,
Starting point is 00:24:13 so you wonder if he's going to be out there. Yeah, alright. So, Darius Slade. Big injury. We'll talk more about injuries in a second. And it could really affect your fanuel lineup. If Darius Slate plays, maybe you don't go with Tyrell Williams. If he doesn't play, maybe you do go with Tyrell Williams.
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Starting point is 00:25:57 You've got Brissett 9th at Pittsburgh. Yeah, I expect this to be a competitive game. I'm not sure that the Colts will have much success running the ball against the Steelers. And whenever Jacoby Brissett has been forced to throw passes, he's been very good. He's got three games this year with more than 30 pass attempts. One of them 310 yards, two touchdowns. Another one 326, four touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Another one 265 and three. And I do think the Steelers defense is good. I think it's better against the run than it is against the pass, or at least it has been so far this year in terms of yards per play. And so I expect Brissette to be a low-end starter. They've been completely dominant against opposing quarterbacks since getting Minka Fitzpatrick. So from week three on, it's been a just total disaster
Starting point is 00:26:36 for opposing quarterbacks against them. I don't see this game being high-scoring at all, so I don't think Brissette's going to throw a lot. And his numbers on the road have been terrible. So I would stay away from Jacoby Brissette. I would actually start Jimmy Garoppolo tonight over Brissette. Since they've added Minkovic. You're not part of that.
Starting point is 00:26:49 No, no, Dave. I can't give a stat? No, this is 60-second rankings disputes. I'm out. I was going to give a good stat. Respect the segment. Now you can argue with Jamie here. Marlon Mack in PPR at Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So same game, same team. Marlon Mack, Jamie has him 14th. Dave has him 21st. And Heath has Marlon Mack 15th in PPR. Marlon Mack, Jamie has him 14th. Dave has him 21st. And Heath has Marlon Mack 15th in PPR. Okay, Dave, you can start. You're the low guy on Marlon Mack, 21st in PPR. I think the Steelers' run defense is good.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I think their defense is good in general. And I think Marlon Mack is going to have a hard time finding 100 yards or a touchdown against them. 60 and a touchdown. Book it. 60 and a touchdown? All right, that'll probably get you in the top 15. Oh, yeah. If he gets you that, then he will. I don't think he'll get that. The Steelers have dominated
Starting point is 00:27:30 the last three backfields they've faced. That would be Mark Ingram, the Chargers, and the Dolphins. All averaged 3.2 yards per carry or worse. Mark Ingram did score. Next up, we have Mark Walton. This will put Dave versus Heath.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Dave has Mark Walton 28th in PPR, Heath 14th. We already heard Heath's take on Mark Walton. So why don't we do Dave versus Jamie? Because Jamie has Walton 16th. So Dave, I'll let you start it again. You're the low guy on Walton by far, 28th. Yeah, I've moved him up. I think he's right around 24th for me now and i
Starting point is 00:28:05 think i took a look at his touches he'll have more touches than devin singletary but i think singletary will have a better fantasy game than mark walton if you want to if you want to consider that for a bet i just don't know how much how effective he'll be the offensive line for the dolphins is bad i know the jets defense is bad i think the jets offense is going to be very good in this game because the dolphins defenseins' defense is so bad. That'll take Walton out of the passing game. We know that he's also not necessarily the guy at the goal line. I think, what did you say, 70 or 80 yards for Mark Walton,
Starting point is 00:28:34 somewhere in that range? I think that's close to the ceiling. Yeah, I mean, take him out of the passing game is fine, but last week in the first game, I thought Kenny Drake had six targets, so I don't see how that's going to be a situation where he's out of the passing game in a game. If you think they're chasing points,
Starting point is 00:28:47 I think actually he'll be probably more involved in the passing game. So, yeah, again, you're talking about Jets defense that was bad against running backs with Leonard Williams, and now you're taking Leonard Williams and C.J. Mosley off the field. I think it's an easy spot to, if you're ever going to buy into a Dolphins running back, this is the week to do
Starting point is 00:29:03 it. At home game, against a bad Jets defense, I think Mark Wal're ever going to buy into a Dolphins running back, this is the week to do it. At home game against a bad Jets defense, I think Mark Walton is going to be a very, very good fantasy option this week. Finally, Terry McLaurin. Let's go Jamie versus Heath here. Jamie and Dave not really considering Terry McLaurin this week at Buffalo. Heath, I'm sure you don't love Terry McLaurin, but you can at least make
Starting point is 00:29:20 the case for him as a number three receiver. You have him 32nd in PPR. Yeah, I don't really. I thought I was pretty down on Terry McLaurin, so I don't have much of an argument to make for him as a number three receiver you have him 32nd in ppr yeah i don't really well like i thought i was pretty down on terry mcclure so i don't have a much of an argument to make for him my argument for him is there's four teams on a buy seven wide receivers we generally rank in our top 30 and i think mcclure is too good to drop outside of the top 40 no matter who the matchup is okay is it weird to anybody that he's only had one target from duane haskin so far his quarterback from college, too.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I know. I don't think you're supposed to be talking during this part. Oh, that's right. I was going to go to a different one, the Jacksonville DST. Oh, come on. We get so precious little time for rankings debates, and we're going to do DSTs and kickers now. DSTs are important, too.
Starting point is 00:30:02 You've got them fifth, Heath. You've got Jacksonville fifth. Dave and Jamie have them 14th. Or Dave has 5th. Dave and Jamie have them 14th. Or Dave has them 19th and Jamie has them 14th. They've got a good pass rush. The Texans give up a lot of sacks. They scored 12 fantasy points the last time they played the Texans and they're in London and no team is more
Starting point is 00:30:15 comfortable in London than Jacksonville. The Bears might be. I mean the Raiders, excuse me. The Raiders. Alright, so Dave, argue against the Jags DST. There's only been three DSTs that have put up double-digit fantasy points against the Texans this year. I don't think Jacks.
Starting point is 00:30:33 They might get a bunch of sacks. Jacksonville is one of them. Back in week two? Yeah. Okay. That's fair. They had Jalen Ramsey. Did he play in that game or not?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yes. Probably. Yes, he did. And he did a very good job on the Hawkins. I'm expecting the Texans offense to keep rolling and buck the trend that Deshaun Watson has had over his career against Jacksonville, and I would rather trust a bunch of other DSTs than the Jacks.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I don't like DST very much this week, but I don't like DST very much in general, so that could be it. Yeah. Come on, Heath. Open your mind. Kickers and DSTs are people too. Or units. DSTs are units.
Starting point is 00:31:07 There are a lot of people. You don't just dislike one person. You dislike a lot of people. 11 people that you hate. I mostly just dislike you. Injuries, news, and notes. Quarterback. Patrick Mahomes was limited.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Do we expect him to play? I hope so, but probably not. Okay. We'll preview that tomorrow. Matt Ryan seems likely to return next week. Case Keenum questionable due to a concussion, so right now we're thinking Haskins. Running back, James Connorsat,
Starting point is 00:31:33 Philip Lindsay, sore wrist. Talked about the Niners running backs. Looks like Breida's going to play. Obviously, Coleman's going to play. Chase Edmonds is out. David Johnson is questionable, and the Cardinals are going to go running back by committee, according to Cliff Kingsbury. You saw Schefter's report today, right? No. David Johnson, not expected to play.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Oh, okay. Thank you. So what do you think about Kenyon Drake tonight against San Francisco? I mean, it's probably going to be a hot hand approach. So if he does get off to a good start, you know, they're probably going to ride him. But three days to learn a playbook against San Francisco, I just don't know what, from a fantasy perspective, how you could trust it. So if you play in the showdowns, maybe it's worth the price on Fandle. But I just think that in seasonal leagues, unless you're completely stuck, I would try and stay away from all the Cardinals. It wouldn't be a surprise if it's a Zach Zenner game, an Alfred Morris game,
Starting point is 00:32:24 or just nobody plays well. Start Mark Walton. stay away from all the Cardinals. It wouldn't be a surprise if it's a Zach Zenner game, an Alfred Morris game, or just nobody plays well. Start Mark Walton. You guys gave me three running backs earlier. Walton, Singletary, and Cohen. Would you start all of them over Kenyon Drake? I would take Drake over Cohen for sure in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I would imagine I would probably still take Drake over Cohen in PPR. I'd take Drake over Singletary. I would start all of them over Drake. Would you start Odell Beckham or Kenyon Drake? Odell. Beckham. Okay. Miles Sanders.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I can't believe that's a question. I can't believe that that's a question. It's a fair question. I get why you asked it. I get it. But I can't believe it. I can't believe Odell's been that bad. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I'm not sure I would start Beckham. Chris Harris has been really good. It wasn't far off last week with Drake not playing. Miles Sanders mispractice. We think he's going to play, right? Yes. I think so. I really like Jordan Howard this week a lot.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I do, too. I loved watching him last week. That offensive line was just mauling Buffalo, and he was falling forward and dragging defenders. He was good. Alvin Kamara seems likely to return next week, and Christian McCaffrey has some knee soreness, but they're calling it no big deal.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Devontae Adams does have a chance to play. Deshaun Jackson practiced, but he's not a lock to play. Adam Thielen was limited in practice as he's making progress there. Marquise Brown's going to play. Sterling Shepard has a chance to play. Adam Thielen was limited in practice as he's making progress there. Marquise Brown's going to play. Sterling Shepard has a chance to play. DeeDee Westbrook was limited in practice, so does DeeDee Westbrook look like he's going to play this week? We're not going to know.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah, I think if you're Jacksonville, you know, with the bye next week and the fact that Chris Conley's playing well, I would probably lean on the side of resting him, but Marquise Liebing and I on IR could change some things. Being limited on Wednesday is a pretty good sign. I feel more optimistic than I did at the beginning of the week. But I thought, like Jamie did, that he just wouldn't play.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I'd make the assumption he's limited in practice all week. And if that changes and he's out for a day, then that's probably not a good sign. A.J. Green probably going to play next week. And Keenan Allen still dealing with a hamstring injury so he's kind of like, it could be a game time decision every week. He played last week but was a little bit limited in the snaps. Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Tight end. Chris Herndon was limited in practice. He's trending in the right direction. He's 41% owned and you might be able to get him and start him this week at Miami. Where is Chris Herndon ranked for you guys? Is he ranked? He'd be around 12. He'd be in the streaming mix.
Starting point is 00:34:49 14 to 15. He would hurt poor Ryan Griffin. Well, if he's going to be fantasy relevant, he's going to have to hurt somebody else. Because Ryan Griffin squared two touchdowns on two targets. Yeah. If we're thinking Chris Herndon. And a two-point conversion after. If we're thinking Chris Herndon's going to come in and get five targets against the Dolphins. We've got some problems with somebody on the Jets.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah, or he's going to hurt the Dolphins. That's who he's going to hurt. OJ Howard and Cameron Brate both missed practice. And let's see, other news. Earl Thomas has a knee injury. That's not good. Buffalo cornerback Levi Wallace is questionable. Darius Slade was limited in practice
Starting point is 00:35:26 Houston could get two starting Defensive backs back this week At Jacksonville That could help against Gardner Minstash And that's basically it Why would you Why would you poo poo I'm not
Starting point is 00:35:40 What's wrong with you I hope you get all candy corn tonight I don't actually like candy corn I'm fine with What's wrong with you? I'm not. What's wrong with you? Nothing. I hope you get all candy corn tonight. I don't actually like candy corn. I'm fine with candy corn. It's okay. Explains a lot about you. I don't love it. It fits perfectly.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I don't seek it. Also, I'm going to give this take. I hope all you get is old Butterfingers, yellow Starbursts, and candy corn. I'm going to tell you. And Dave's weird candy that he got as a kid. Oh, so weird. This is going to be an unpopular take while shocking still very i will pull the list up just a second while still very good
Starting point is 00:36:13 kit kat is an overrated candy people act like it's like one of the best it's like top 10 it's not top three you're it's i don't think that that's a terrible that's not a terrible take but i mean you know it's a little overrated it's top 10 it's a matthew staff's a terrible That's not a terrible take It's a little overrated It's a Matthew Stafford It's not a Lamar Jackson Start, sit, or flex the best Josh Allen against the Redskins Why wouldn't it be trick, treat
Starting point is 00:36:35 Or throw it back at best Trick or treat Trick, treat, or give it to your sibling Trick, treat, or give it to your sibling Or egg the house Josh Allen against Washington. Treat. Adrian Peterson at Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Treat. Trick. I don't want to sit him. Frank Gore. Wait, did you say treat, Jamie? Your subconscious came out there. Wow. Don't want to start him.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Frank Gore? Yeah, Frank Gore. I think he's a treat, too. He's a... What's the one for flex? Give to your siblings? Flex at best. Wait, so, Jamie, you like Adrian Peterson this week?
Starting point is 00:37:15 I do. Okay. The Jets wide receivers at Miami. Treat. Say our gift to the siblings. Start, Robbie. Flex at best for the other two. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Robbie Anderson typically gets six to eight, six to nine targets with Darnold. Nine wide receivers have had six to nine targets against Miami. Eight of them have had 76 yards or a touchdown. Jarvis Landry at Denver. Flex. Flex. Yeah, he's good flex. Jarvis Landry at Denver. Flex. Flex.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, he's good flex. Cortland Sutton against Cleveland. I'm starting him. I think he's a very low-end number two receiver. All right. After watching Brandon Allen. He's a treat that your parents need to check first. You want to see Brandon Allen make sure that he's okay.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Well, what does that mean? Is that you're starting? I think you're starting him. I think you're starting. It's kind of like Odell Beckham. I think you're starting him with the hope that things are fine, but it's not great. Who do you like better? I like Beckham better.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I like Beckham slightly better, but I may change that by the end of the day. I think I have Sutton one spot higher. I think I may have him actually projected for the same exact number of fantasy points. Yeah, Sutton one spot higher. I'm very may have him actually projected for the same exact number of fantasy points. Yeah, Sutton one spot higher. Very nervous. Very nervous about it. I think a lot of people don't really want to start Cortland Sutton this week. You do sort of want to see what happens. It's going to be a low bar to be a top 25 wide receiver this week, I think.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Or there are going to be a lot of guys that nobody started. I don't know nobody started because I think like the Parkers, the Amendolas, maybe Deontay Johns, those type of guys could surprise us, quote unquote, because I don't think there would be huge surprises. I don't think it's going to be a Kiki QT. It'll be one of the Titans, guys.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It could be. Yeah. Cole Beasley, maybe. Yeah. I mean, yeah. All right. We're going to take a break here. When we come back, we'll get into the games.
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Starting point is 00:39:45 Nice. No, I don't. Yeah, me either. Stat of the game. Patriots DSTs finish top three, seven straight weeks. Number one, three straight weeks. Facing the Ravens without the third fewest fantasy points DSTs. If you own the Patriots DST, would you be looking at another one or just start them?
Starting point is 00:40:01 I know they're not number one for you this week. What do you do? Start them. Yeah. What are you going to do? You're going to bench them? I know they're not number one for you this week. What do you do? Start them. Yeah, what are you going to do? You're going to bench them for the Bills? Starting Lamar Jackson, but look at his game against Pittsburgh. That could be the type of performance that you're going to get from him. I've gotten several questions about should I
Starting point is 00:40:16 sit Lamar Jackson. I've gotten no questions about should I sit the Patriots defense. I would rather sit the Patriots defense than sit Lamar Jackson. Would you start Lamar Jackson or Gardner Minshew if you had a choiceots defense than sit Lamar Jackson. Would you start Lamar Jackson or Gardner Minshew if you had a choice? I would start Lamar Jackson. Really? Not me. I'd take Minshew. I'd start Minshew too.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Who would you start over Lamar Jackson? I think Matthew Stafford? Yeah, I mean, I was just thinking of the only guy on the waiver wire. I wouldn't start Derek Carr over Lamar Jackson. I wouldn't start Sam Donald. The guys that we spoke about on Tuesday. I think Minshew's the only one that has the chance for higher ceiling. Like I said, I'll go back to what I said earlier,
Starting point is 00:40:48 it's going to be a fun chess match to see how Belichick tries to make things tough on Lamar Jackson, and will he have success? I noticed one thing that Devin McCourty said this week. He said that the offense is similar to what the Bills ran with Tyrod Taylor when Greg Olson was the offensive or not Greg Olson, Greg Roman
Starting point is 00:41:03 was the offensive coordinator in Buffalo. So that leads me to believe that they've got a pretty good beat on what Baltimore's doing. And unless there are too many new wrinkles that the Ravens put in, they're going to be able to handle what Lamar Jackson's given them. I think the interesting thing is, and we talked with Pete about this, they can't necessarily do exactly what they normally do defensively in terms of their man coverage and turning their back to the quarterback
Starting point is 00:41:24 because of the threat that Lamar Jackson presents. So they do have to make some adjustments for the Ravens, which probably makes them a little more susceptible. I bet they play more nickel and dime coverage than they have all year long. Well, that's what Gus Bradley did in the playoff game.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yep. Yeah, I bet that's the route they take. And that's good for Mark Ingram, actually. Lamar Jackson's seventh for Jamie and Dave. He's fourth for Heath. Wilson, Prescott, and Watson, everybody has them ranked ahead of him, ahead of Lamar Jackson. Dave and Jamie have Aaron Rodgers, Gardner Minshew,
Starting point is 00:41:58 and Matthew Stafford also ranked ahead of Jackson. Heath does not. So Jackson's still a top eight's still a top seven quarterback and top four for Heath. I do think he's the best fantasy quarterback in this game. Yeah. I think so too. Well, I mean, look, you can't really run against Baltimore. And we'll see if Earl Thomas plays.
Starting point is 00:42:22 That could be a factor. But they are getting Jimmy Smith back, which is nice. So, yeah, what do you think about Brady? Good start, great start, bad start. What do you think? I keep dropping him further and further. He's at 12 right now, so I would start Derek Carr over him.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yep. I haven't found that yet, but the week is still young. I would start him over anybody in the Thursday game, obviously, but it could come to a point where he falls out of the top 12. Patrick Holmes is the only quarterback to score more than 17 fantasy points and six points per passing touchdown leagues against the Ravens, which is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Wilson had a bad game. They haven't faced a lot of good quarterbacks. I will say that. Probably just Wilson and Mahomes. I think they've just gotten to the point. They lost a lot of players. We've had this debate with Seattle, too. Is the system good enough to be a good defense with the pieces they lost?
Starting point is 00:43:13 I think they've gotten to the part of the year where it's good enough now. I think they're a good defense. Well, yeah. You saw the one game without Brandon Williams, and Nick Chubb was a monster. Then Williams has been back, and it's like you said, Adam, you can't run on them. Adding Marcus Peters to Marlon Humphrey and now getting Jimmy Smith back so the secondary is looking better.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I think the pass rush is still questionable, but this is going to be an interesting game to see because they're as healthy as they have been coming off of a bye week against a Patriots offensive line that continues to struggle. And so will Brady still have success?
Starting point is 00:43:49 It's, you know, you can't feel comfortable with anybody outside of Edelman in the passing game. Okay, so... What about James White? Well, I mean, I'm sorry, the receivers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me get the rankings out here. I think that that's the key for the Patriots. So who do you like in this game? You know, so by the way, Dave has Brady 8th,
Starting point is 00:44:05 Heath has him 15th, and Jamie has Brady 12th. So who do you like in this game? I can't imagine we're going with Marquise Brown, right? Too risky. Right. Edelman's a must start. We already talked about Ingram.
Starting point is 00:44:18 He's the number two running back, but could be a really tough game for Sonny Michel. James White is so consistent. He is, so far this year, the number 23 running back in PPR, and he's been absolutely terrible in half PPR and non-PPR. But look at per game. He's better on per game because he missed the one game. I've been looking at per game.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Per game, he's 42nd in non-PPR, 38th in half PPR, and 23rd in PPR. Okay, I thought he was better. I thought so too, but only one touchdown. But all right, so just go ahead. Give me the starts and sits. Well, for Michel, he's played five games with Rex Burkhead and three games without Rex Burkhead. And in the five games with Burkhead on the field,
Starting point is 00:44:57 he's averaging like 6.7 PPR points per game. Scored one touchdown in those five games. And in the three without, he's like 19 points per game. So it's a dramatic shift when Burkhead plays. And that goes to last week's too when Michel had all that work. So typically Burkhead is just taking work away from him. But last week it was just fluky that he didn't have a big game despite all the carries. I can't start Sonny Michel.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I think some good fortune has kind of masked the same thing with James White though. Because you look at his touches, nine, six, and six in the three games that Burkhead's played. Now, he scored a touchdown in one of those and he had a long catch last week. So he had 75 yards receiving the other games without Burkhead. He had at least eight targets. Oh, his numbers pop the last two years when Burkhead's off the field. I'm a little worried about white, too. I just like it's funny because our colleague, George Maselli, he's a Patriots fan.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And he said, we were talking about this yesterday, Belichick typically likes to save one of his running backs for the postseason. And he said for years it used to be James White, and then you'd see White just get all that work in the playoffs. And he thinks now that could be Burkhead is kind of the guy that there may be sort of kid gloves with. So who are the starts and sits in this game? Are you starting Michelle and James White? You don't want to start Michelle if you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I think White will be fine in PPR. I think Rex could. This is a White and Burkhead game. I think this is how you attack ball. Oh, I think it's a gentleman game too. Sure. It's the short area passing with a couple of deep shots mixed in, but getting rid of the ball quick is going to be huge for Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:46:27 So maybe Burkhead is a deep sleeper this week at running back, but I like James White. I think he's going to have a big role. But you wouldn't start Burkhead over Michelle. Like Burkhead, he had almost no work last night. It's probably too risky, but in PPR, it wouldn't surprise me if they're close. But both not great. It doesn't matter how much Burkhead plays.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Would you start Michel or a Chargers running back? Chargers running back. Okay. Yeah, I'd start an Eagles running back. I'd start both dinosaurs in the Buffalo-Washington game over Sonny Michel. I wouldn't go that far. Alright, cool. And
Starting point is 00:47:00 that's pretty much it. We're getting away from Dorsett and Sanu. Yeah. Yeah, it's just not a good matchup for them. And obviously Mark Andrews, you're starting. Yeah, Mark Andrews struggling a little bit lately, but I don't see how you get away from him. He had all those drops in Seattle.
Starting point is 00:47:15 He did, but he's 45 or 40 yards in four of his last five games. I wouldn't expect a big game, but I don't think he's at the point yet where you're starting Darren Fells or John DeSmith over him. And just going back to Marquise Brown, I do prefer him to a lot of the guys we've talked about here at the end. I prefer him to both the other Patriots receivers. I prefer him to Sonny Michel and PPR. I prefer him to James White and non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Let's make sure he's playing. I mean, okay, this is a brutal matchup. I don't know how good the Patriots' run defense is. I do know they have amazing cornerbacks. I don't know that he's going to get shadowed by Gilmore. And they're not going to play man against him, I don't think. Not very often because they can't turn their back to Lamar Jackson. They're going to try and keep that big play away.
Starting point is 00:47:55 But they could have Gilmore follow him and still play all the zone. Sure, sure. All right. That's probably what you'll see. That's New England and Baltimore. Dave, Jamie, and Heath are going to switch studios. So we will talk about Houston at Jacksonville in like two and a half seconds. Ooh, spooky.
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Starting point is 00:48:36 just wanted to skip around and hear particular games. I lay it out for you in the episode description. All right, what's next for us? We got Houston and Jacksonville. Deshaun Watson has not scored more than 21 fantasy points in three starts against the Jaguars. In two starts, he scored 12 fantasy points. Do you have any hesitation to roll with Deshaun Watson this week?
Starting point is 00:48:56 No. Not unless you've got Dak or Stafford or Russ. We've all got him in our top five, right? Yeah. Okay. Conflicting stats of the game. The Jaguars have allowed the seventh most pass plays of 20 plus yards
Starting point is 00:49:10 and the fifth most pass plays of 40 plus yards. So you'd think, oh, big play receivers, they do well. But every wide receiver that has done well against the Jaguars pretty much, yeah, I would say everyone, has had eight or more targets. And I don't think Kenny Stills is getting that. So start or sit, Kenny Stills?
Starting point is 00:49:28 Sit. Okay, and they're going into their bye next week, so that's why I said you can drop Kenneth Stills. Well, that brings us to Carlos Hyde. How do we feel about him? He has scored seven or more non-PPR fantasy points in six of eight games. That's not bad.
Starting point is 00:49:44 He's the number 26 running back in non-PPR. I know in PPR you don't really want Carlos Hyde, but how do you feel about him against the Jaguars? You said not bad? Yeah. That's how I feel about him. I think he's not bad. I think you'd prefer to start somebody else,
Starting point is 00:50:00 but you can kind of hang your hat on him getting at least 70 yards. I would put him in the same range as Adrian Peterson and Frank Gore. Yeah, I'd take those guys way ahead of him. I think they're much better situations. They're flexes. Yeah, I think Peterson's a start. I think Gore is a potential starter.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Hyde is nowhere near those guys. Why? Because I don't know about Jacksonville's run defense. They don't have Marcel Darius anymore. Why, Jamie? I'm not disagreeing, but just why do you feel that way? Because they're all kind of similar players. Even without Darius last week, they were still good. They were,
Starting point is 00:50:36 but Le'Veon Bell's been so bad this year. He's been great. On a per carry basis, he's been probably almost a yard better than Le'Veon. Yeah. Is Tunsell playing? Don't know. He practiced.
Starting point is 00:50:52 So did Titus Howard. So their line could be pretty close to full strength. Okay. Would you start Devin Singletary or Carlos Hyde? I'd start Singletary and Gore over Hyde. I would start Hyde over Singletary in non-PPR. I'd start Singletary over Hyde in PPR. Yeah, I'd rather have Singletary and Gore over Hyde. I would start Hyde over Singletary in non-PPR. I'd start Singletary over Hyde in PPR. Yeah, I'd rather have Singletary in both.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Start Hopkins, sit Stills, no QT. Darren Fels. Let's talk about Darren Fels. They've struggled lately, Jacksonville against tight ends. Fels is top 12 in non-PPR in both formats. In his last six games, he's had three games with six or seven targets
Starting point is 00:51:29 and 49 to 69 yards and three touchdowns in those games. He's had three games with one or two targets. You just never know. That's a low-end starting tight end? That's what you get now. That's the sample size I would look at. Four of the last five tight ends with at least three targets
Starting point is 00:51:47 have given you at least 11 PPR and six non-PPR points against the Jaguars. I feel confident he's going to score somewhere between 2 and 18 fantasy points. That's good. They'll take the under. No, I'm just kidding. According to Ian Rappaport, Benny Snell had surgery to repair a torn meniscus. Trim his meniscus.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Oh, no. Okay. Thank you, Jamie. So he's going to be on the shelf for a while. Three weeks. Yep. Would you start Darren Fels or Jason Witten at the Giants? I would go Fels.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I would go Witten. I would go Fels also. All right. They are good streaming options this week. Gardner Minshew or Lamar Jackson? Minshew. Lamar. Minshew.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Come on, Heath. You're the Minshew guy. Yeah. I've got him sixth. And you're the low guy. We've seen that this is the story that we've seen before. I got him right about where I had him last week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:44 All right. Well, do we think he's going to have another big game, though? Because last week was his first game with more than 24 fantasy points. He's usually in the low 20s. I think he's going to have another big game. The Texans defense has given up like 31 fantasy points per game over the last month.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. Like I said, though, they could get two starters back, Tayshaun Gibson and Jonathan Joseph. Yeah. You know what starter they're not getting back is J.J. Watt. True. And that hurts their pass rush. And even if they get those guys back in the secondary, they haven't played very well. I think you're looking at Minshew having time to throw.
Starting point is 00:53:16 He's got Chark to attack with downfield. A lot of other guys to make plays, including Fournette. And I think Gardner Minshew's got a shot at exceeding 25 fantasy points. You all have Aaron Rodgers and Gardner Minshew back-to-back. For Jamie, it's Minshew over Rodgers. For Heath and Dave, it's... No. Sorry. For
Starting point is 00:53:35 Heath, it's Minshew over Rodgers. For Dave, it's Rodgers over Minshew, but they're back-to-back. Fournette, you're going to start. It's not a great matchup. Are you avoiding Fournette in DFS? I haven't seen his price, so I'm not sure. It's not on the main slate. It has to be a showdown.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It's a London game in the morning. It's a London game, right. I would start Minshew in the captain spot. I wouldn't start Fournette there. Houston, since week one, they're giving up like 3.4 yards per carry to running backs. Again, no J.J. Watt. Fournette's A must start.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Yeah. That's true. He's going to certainly hurt their run defense, his absence as well. Okay, then the wide receivers. Give me your takes on Chark, Westbrook, Conley. Start Chark. You got to start Chark. Love the matchup for him, even if the cornerbacks are healthier for houston conley is an interesting
Starting point is 00:54:26 low-end flex but i would only trust him if there's no dd westbrook westbrook would take the spot of a good flex maybe even a low-end number two ppr receiver if he were to play i would just be concerned because he played last week and left because he wasn't healthy so yeah it's so annoying well did he did he aggravate the injury or did he just not feel right after he started? I think he aggravated the injury. He aggravated the injury. He's got a shoulder injury now for weeks missing practice. So I think if he plays,
Starting point is 00:54:52 I would probably avoid both of them. If he doesn't play, then Conley is a very good starter. Right, and honestly, I would start Conley over Beckham if Westbrook were out. Yeah, I can see that. Would you guys? Or just in the, oh, I can see that category. Or just in the, oh, I can see that category? It's in the, oh, I can see that category.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Conley over who? Beckham. Odell Beckham. No, I would not do that. If Westbrook's out. And yeah, I'm sure if Westbrook's in, like if Westbrook were in and completely healthy, then I would feel pretty good about D.D. Westbrook.
Starting point is 00:55:19 But Jamie mentioned- In a PPR, I think I would too. But that's just not the case. I think you're just way more down. Like if you had your rankings, Odell Beckham would be around 40 in your rankings. With PPR, I think I would too, but that's just not the case. I think you're just way more down. If you had your rankings, Odell Beckham would be around 40 in your rankings. No, I think he'd probably be in about the same range because it's not a good week for wide receivers. Would you have Chris Conley top 20?
Starting point is 00:55:35 If Westbrook were out, probably. You're talking about the Texans allow the most fantasy points to wide receivers. Conley's had like four good games this year, and it's just a really good matchup. I think he played well against the Texans, right? Didn't he play well against them week two? Yes. I think so. I know week one he played well. He had four catches for 73 yards on five targets.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And D.D. Westbrook also had five targets in that game. Right. So I'd be nervous about starting a guy whose upside is 11 PPR points. I don't think that's his upside. That's with Westbrook playing. We see his upside the last two games when he's had 14 targets, over 180 yards, I believe, and a touchdown. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Well, I was just comparing him to Beckham. Yeah, Beckham. Well, his last two games have been better than Beckham. I know. Denver's defense is very good. We're going to get to that game in a bit. Jacksonville DST, we already talked about. Heath, tell me about the kickers in this game.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Okay, never mind. Indianapolis is at Pittsburgh. It's that of the game. Talk about this one. The Steelers have been really good against the run last three weeks. Let's talk about the other side of the ball and Jalen Samuels, though. Last three weeks against the Colts, they've gotten better against the run. Damian Williams had nine carries for 23 yards. Carlos Hyde had 12 carries for 35 yards. That's terrible. The Broncos running backs were kind of okay. So they look like a bad run defense,
Starting point is 00:56:52 but they've been better lately. How much do you like Jalen Samuels? If he's the only back for Pittsburgh with Connor out and Snell out, you have to start him. It's too good of an opportunity. And you know that he's capable of impacting the passing game. There's just too much upside.
Starting point is 00:57:12 He'd be a top 20 running back if James Conner was out. That's it, huh? For sure. Yeah, I'd go higher than that. I'm wondering if he's like Latavius Murray-esque. He could. I think that exists. I think that potential
Starting point is 00:57:25 exists. He wouldn't be that good. He'd be top 15 good. Alright, would you start him over Beckham? Yeah, if Connor was out. If Connor's out. It's all about Connor being out, yes. Yeah, the Steelers have had a running back score touchdown in four games in a row.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Would you start Jalen Samuels over Juju Smith-Schuster? Yes. I probably would not. I do think if Conner's out, we'll probably see a few more pass attempts from Mason Rudolph. All right, so nobody's starting Mason Rudolph, right? Two QB only.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Okay. Somehow the Steelers have scored like 20 or more points in six straight games or something. It's weird, And that's very important for Jacoby Brissett. The Steelers actually are putting some points. Yeah. Six straight games with 20 or more. Four straight games with 23 or more points, which would bode well for Brissett. But we'll get to the Colts in a minute. Is Juju a must start? Yes. Yeah. By default. you a must start yes yeah by default and i gave you that stat about dionte johnson based on the amount of targets he typically gets with rudolph and what that amount of targets is against the colts he should be in line for a good game i i know i gave the stat doesn't mean i necessarily believe it but that's what the numbers would say how do you feel about dionte johnson
Starting point is 00:58:41 number three good, for sure. Probably have him too low in my rankings. I currently have him 31st among receivers in PPR. That's higher than I have him. I feel like I might have him a little too low, but it's difficult to think Juju's going to be a top 20 receiver. 100%. Yeah, one of these guys is going to fail. And so I think this is a, What did you say, Adam, earlier?
Starting point is 00:59:06 Like 70 yards with the targets? Oh, the stat? Receivers against the Colts with six plus targets? Six to eight targets. It's what Deontay Johnson gets. And there have been nine wide receivers with six or more targets. Eight of them have had 75 yards or a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Yeah, I could see 75 yards without scoring, and that's still fine to make him a flex, but he's not going to score in every game he plays with Mason Rudolph. Probably not. But I think you can make the argument that he's got more upside than Jarvis Landry and Mike Williams. Right now, those guys are ranked ahead of him. You can make the argument.
Starting point is 00:59:40 They're in the same range. I think they're all very similar type receivers this week. How do you feel about... Okay, we're not starting Vance McDonald, right? No. How do you feel about T.Y. Hilton? I'm nervous. I've got him as a number two receiver.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yep. Since they got Minka Fitzpatrick, opposing receivers against the Steelers with six plus targets have maxed out at seven non-PPR points and 12 PPR points, no touchdowns. And T.Y.'s had at least six targets in all but one game. And I think it's pretty obvious that T.Y.'s production,
Starting point is 01:00:14 or Brissette's production rather, is tied to T.Y. And so if the Steelers do a good job of kind of erasing T.Y. Hilton, Jacoby's going to struggle. I think this is a dink and dunk game for the Colts, and I think they have a hard time putting points on the board. And I think you're starting T.Y. hoping that he can get loose for a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I mean, yeah, he's no Devante Parker T.Y. Hilton. Or Alan Hearns, right? Brissette, we already talked about. It's been those secondary and small-time receivers that have been scoring on the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:00:46 That's mostly all they've played. No, they've done a good job taking away number one outside guys. They've played the Bengals. They've played the Ravens. They've played the Dolphins. They did a good job against Keenan Allen. So I'm sure people are going to be starting T.Y. Hilton. We don't love him this week. I'm sure people are going to be starting T.Y. Hilton. We don't love him this week.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I'm very happy starting him. I think he's high on number two. I like him too because I just think that the best part about the Seahawks defense is their pass rush. I'm going to bet on the Colts' offensive line. That's really the matchup. They had problems last week with the Broncos' pass rush. I think this is a
Starting point is 01:01:23 tougher opponent for them. It's also a home road thing for the Colts. That's a good point. That's always been really a thing. It's often been a thing for T.Y. Hilton. But again, he's ahead of Beckham, so you're not going to sit him. Marlon Mack, we already talked about.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Brissette, Heath likes Brissette a lot. Dave and Jamie, not so much. Marlon Mack, who was the low guy on Mack? I think it's me. It and Jamie, not so much. Marlon Mack. Who was the low guy on Mack? I think it's me. It's you, right? Okay. 16 or more carries in six of seven games. 18 or more carries in five of seven games.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It's a tough matchup for sure. Would you start Jalen Samuels or Marlon Mack? Samuels. I would start Samuels if Connor's up. Samuels and PPR. Mack and none. Thoughts on Ebron this week? Stay away.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Low-end starter. He could score somewhere between 2 and 18 fantasy points. How about... Do his targets go up in this game? Can you see a situation where he gets 6 or 7 targets? No, that's rare for him. Right. That's part of the reason why I can't see it either,
Starting point is 01:02:24 and that's why he's not close to a top 12 tight end. You don't need six or seven targets to be a top 12 tight end. No, to finish as one, but to feel good about starting one, I think you do. Okay. But I don't feel confident that a third of my top 12 tight ends are going to get six to seven targets. Okay, so who are the two we just talked about in the previous game? Oh, Darren Fels and Witten, I guess.
Starting point is 01:02:45 You'd start over, Ebron? For sure. Next game is Detroit at Oakland. This has Bonanza potential here. So what do you think about the— We love Matthew Stafford this week. Which teams can't you use for the Bonanza? I don't know. I haven't done a Bonanza in two weeks.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I think I'm retiring the Bonanza. What? Yeah, I think I'm retiring it. I think he already did and no one noticed. Yeah, kind of just kind of subtly put it into retirement. Detroit and Oakland here. Oakland's so bad against the pass, but they're actually pretty good against the run.
Starting point is 01:03:19 They give up 3.9 yards per carry to running backs. They do give up a lot of receiving yards to running backs. So do you like any Lions running back this week? No. Barry Sanders. Do you like a Lions running back better than Adrian Peterson or Frank Gore? No. Not even the same universe.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Not like those guys are so great. But I wouldn't dump Ty Johnson. I almost called him T.Y. Johnson. Who is your favorite... Keep Ty on the bench, T.Y. Johnson. Who is your favorite? Keep Ty on the bench just to see what happens. Who is your second favorite Lions wide receiver? Amendola. It's Amendola, but it makes me nervous.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I've got Jones. Are you starting them over a receiver in the Thursday night game? Let's say Christian Kirk. Yes, I'd start Amendola Christian Kirk. Yes. I'd start Amendola and Jones over Kirk. I would start Amendola. I believe I'd start Jones as well over all receivers in the Thursday
Starting point is 01:04:14 night game. I would take Kirk. Yeah, I would take Sanders over Jones. These guys would be behind Jalen Sandals, right? If Conner's out? Yes. Yeah, of course. Okay. How about Phillip Lindsey or these guys? Lindsey.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Lindsey. Start Galladay, obviously. TJ Hawkinson. The Raiders give up the third most fantasy points to tight ends. Does that matter? I'm going to drop him
Starting point is 01:04:42 in my ranking so that he can have a good week. It's a good matchup and it's a high-scoring game. It's everything you really want from your streaming tight end. His lack of involvement is disturbing. Yeah, last week was a good matchup in a high-scoring game, and he did nothing. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:02 He is almost touchdown Hawkinson. Almost TD Hawkinson. He gets a lot of those, almost touchdowns. Okay, so he's behind Fels. Yes. How about Ebron or Hawkinson? Hawkinson. I've got Ebron.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Hawkinson. How about Derek Carr, top 12 quarterback this week? Does Darius Slay's presence matter? Absolutely. Because I think they can line him up on Tyrell Williams, and that could make it harder for Carr to hit those longer throws. Carr... Slay will not impact the pass rush.
Starting point is 01:05:44 You're going to see car have time to throw that's a good thing it might end up in a lot of dinking and dunking might okay well it's derrick yeah it's gonna happen fine so that's great so who would you start derrick car over i don't have it that way yet. I would start him over Wentz. I would start him over Rivers. Can I ask you a question? You remember what happened when he had the Chiefs at home? Why is this any different?
Starting point is 01:06:13 He had a terrible game. Every quarterback against the Chiefs in their building does well, and then Derek Carr comes along and was awful. Was that the weather? No. Was it? I don't think so. That was think so this year yeah that was this year it's like week two or three um i think the lions past offense car is currently worse than the chiefs
Starting point is 01:06:32 i shouldn't say every quarterback at home does well like flacco didn't but but almost everyone does it's like an amazing matchup and car Carr was bad at 10 points 298 passing yards. You've got to feel a little nervous about trusting your fantasy week to Derek Carr when you have Tom Brady, when you have maybe Carson Wentz or something like that. Yeah, no, I'd start Wentz over him. I'd start Wentz over him, too. I think you look at
Starting point is 01:06:57 what Carr has done. I think it's like four of his last five with multiple touchdowns. He's been a little bit snakebitten in terms of the 20-point mark. So, you know, I think he's... I think this game is going to be a shootout. You said it's got with multiple touchdowns. He's been a little bit snakebitten in terms of the 20-point mark. I think this game's going to be a shootout. You said it's got Bonanza potential. I don't think it's going to be Josh Jacobs going for five touchdowns. That'd be nice.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Do you guys have Wentz ranked as if Deshaun's playing? No. And you still think he's going to be better than Carr? Oh, yeah. I've got him like very close to yeah I do too but I just I think Carr's
Starting point is 01:07:27 just got the better outlook better situation yeah but maybe but I think at this point you know you have to take into account
Starting point is 01:07:33 Carr and like I just said you know he'll get multiple touchdowns and still finish around 18-19 points I think Wentz has a higher ceiling
Starting point is 01:07:39 all right start start to Josh Jacobs Tyrell Williams must start yeah and Aaron Waller theren receiver scored in every game it's it's hard to argue against him especially in a favorable matchup yeah and it hasn't been fluky i mean he's getting the targets inside the tent darren waller is top three in both formats we covered that's that's this game right all right good we're done cleveland at denver
Starting point is 01:08:04 gave you the stat of the game about those wide receivers against denver robinson adams charke We covered... That's this game, right? All right. Good. We're done. Cleveland at Denver. Gave you the stat of the game about those wide receivers against Denver. Robinson, Adams, Chark, Allen, Hilton. All single-digit fantasy points in PPR. Stat of the game number two. Noah Fantz had nine targets last week. Just something to keep in mind. Five catches, 26 yards on nine targets.
Starting point is 01:08:23 His first game without Emmanuel Sanders. Cleveland has struggled against the decent tight ends they've faced. I know we're not really... Like, Jamie, I think, has Fant 14th in PPR. We're not saying to start Fant, but if you're in a deeper league, it's just something to keep in mind. Nine targets last week. He's a possible stash candidate. If you're streaming tight ends
Starting point is 01:08:39 and maybe you want somebody who could help you out down the line, that's why you'd have him on your bench. All right, this is easy. Chubb is the best running back in this game, right? Mm-hmm. Run as far away from Baker Mayfield as you can. Yep. Beckham, people are going to start by you.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Jesus, Tony. But... It was a really dumb question that he asked at the end, though. Were you happy with the drive? Like, that was a really dumb question that he asked at the end, though. Were you happy with the drive? Like, that was a really dumb question. If anybody hasn't seen the Baker Mayfield clip of him getting mad at a reporter. Beckham, do you want to talk about Beckham? I mean, we've talked about him a lot.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I think we've talked about him plenty. Well, who are maybe some running backs that you would start over Beckham? PPR? Sure. We're not talking like we wouldn't start. Would we start Gore and Peterson over him? No, I would not. I'd start Peterson over him.
Starting point is 01:09:37 You really like Peterson? Yeah. No, I can't do that. He's been better than the last three weeks and on PPR. How about Tevin Coleman? I'd go Coleman all the way. Coleman over Beckham. Yeah, that's easy. How about James White or Beckham?
Starting point is 01:09:50 I'd take Coleman over Beckham and Landry. Combined? Yeah. I actually would. I think I would take Coleman, too. How about... Okay, maybe not PPR. How about James White or Beckham?
Starting point is 01:10:05 White. I'd go James White or Beckham? White. I'd go Beckham. Beckham. Sonny Michel or Beckham, non-PPR? Beckham. Beckham. All right. I hope he does well because you guys are saying Beckham a lot more than I thought you would.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Sid Landry and Royce Freeman or Jarvis Landry? Freeman. I think Freeman's got more upside. Freeman for sure in non-PPR. In PPR, I might go Landry. Freeman's actually better in PPR than he is in non-PPR. I think Landry will catch more passes than Freeman. Might.
Starting point is 01:10:41 He could. Freeman will get more carries. Cleveland, by the way way has been awful against the run 4.7 yards per carry seventh most fantasy points to running backs so you know that was in the stats to know it was but that was like an hour ago so uh yeah corlin sutton we already talked about there you go so sutton and beckham are basically like back to back and that's it in this game, right? This is not a Bonanza.
Starting point is 01:11:07 This is a Costanza. Two more games. Washington at Buffalo. All right, J-Mate. Adrian Peterson, go for it. I mean, it's been three games with Bill Callahan, and the workload has been up. He's got an eight-yard rushing or more in three straight games.
Starting point is 01:11:21 He's got fresh legs after playing Thursday night. And the Bills are small up front. You can run on them. So I think this is a game where I love Adrian Peterson as a top 20 guy, but I think as a low-end number two guy compared to some of the other running backs and players we've talked about, I'll take the eight points as a floor. It's been too big of a topic in Buffalo
Starting point is 01:11:40 about how the run defense has started to struggle lately. And I think they addressed it this week. And I think they learned their lesson against AP. McLaurin, we don't want to start. The highest we have him is 32nd. So try to get away from Terry McLaurin.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And that's going to be it for the Redskins. Bill's DST is going to be awesome, right? Yay? Should be very good. Yep. All right, Josh Allen or Derek Carr, guys? Allen. Definitely Allen and four-point-per-pass touchdown leagues. I'll go Carr in six.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Yeah. Less slay plays, and I'll go Allen. I feel the exact same way as you do. But they're both top 12 for me. Low-end number one quarterbacks. Yeah, and look, Washington's done better against quarterbacks lately, but that's because those quarterbacks have not had a throw. Kirk Cousins threw for 285 yards on 26 passes.
Starting point is 01:12:34 He just didn't have a touchdown. They also faced Fitzpatrick and Garoppolo. But the beginning of the season, we can't forget. Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky, Brady, all of them, three touchdown passes, 25 or more fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues. Is Frank Gore better or worse than Adrian Peterson?
Starting point is 01:12:54 I know I asked you that, but I forgot. I've got Gore ahead of AP. Yeah, I'll take Peterson, but they're close. I'll take Peterson. And Singletary or Gore Singletary for me I'll take Gore I'll take Gore and non Singletary and PPR anything else from this game
Starting point is 01:13:15 oh John Brown sorry John Brown and Cole Beasley my bad John Brown's my start Cole Beasley's deep flex yep okay we can start Brown over Beckham right oh for sure yeah can we start Beasley over Beckham
Starting point is 01:13:30 no no come on JB wake up get some Folgers Jets at Dolphins Sam Darnold or Josh Allen Josh Allen I've got Allen right ahead of Darnold but they are back-to-back.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Top 13 quarterbacks. Yeah, you can't really find quarterbacks who have done poorly against Miami. I guess, in general, how much faith do you have in the Jets' offense this week? I think it's a get-right spot for them. I think that they can pretty much do what every other offense has done against this defense,
Starting point is 01:14:02 and that's put numbers up. You just saw Mason Rudolph have a great game. Great? The numbers were good enough for him. I think Darnold can beat it. 250-2? Is that what you expect? I'm just –
Starting point is 01:14:13 No. What? 250-2? Yeah, I think he can get that. I don't know if that's great. Okay. I'm sorry about the word great. It is a good game.
Starting point is 01:14:22 He can be good. I'm nervous, but there's plenty of upside. I kind of feel about the Jets like I feel about those last three tight ends in my top 12. Do you think this will be the worst quarterback performance
Starting point is 01:14:34 against the Dolphins, right? I think it's going to be right in the 19-point range. So Keenum. That's exactly what Keenum got. That was the worst quarterback performance. Sam Darnold has not yet
Starting point is 01:14:44 been as good as Case Keenum in the NFL. Well, the last couple weeks he has been. Eventually, I'm not saying he's not going to ever be as good as Case Keenum, but for his career, he's not been as good as Case Keenum. I think, and I've been saying this about Rudolph all last week, I think that that's what you should expect against this Dolphins defense. The floor is good. It's just where does the ceiling lie for these mediocre quarterbacks?
Starting point is 01:15:06 And so Rudolph did exactly what I expected. 18 to 20 fancy points is what I would have put it at. And he hit 20. I think that's where Darnold's going to be. I don't see a very high ceiling for him just because of what he's shown us. And to be fair, Adam, you brought this up since the Lamar Jackson, Brady, Prescott, Rivers. It's been right in that range.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Right, and teams don't really throw that much on the Dolphins. Very few pass attempts. Rudolph had 36. That's the most all season against the Dolphins. So Le'Veon Bell's going to have to get going. 3.2 yards per carry coming into the game. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what James Conner was averaging going into the Dolphins game,
Starting point is 01:15:42 and he obviously destroyed them. So start Le'Veon Bell. The receivers in this game, are there four, are there five flex-worthy wide receivers in this game? I would start the two main guys for the Jets. Format's kind of dependent for Crowder because you get to score, and I don't know how many yards he's actually going to get,
Starting point is 01:16:03 but I think he could have a 6 for 70, 7 for 70, 7 for 80 type of game. I'm not playing Demaryius Thomas. I don't care how many targets he's gotten lately. I'll play the two guys for the Jets and Devontae Parker just because his month of 11 or more PPR points in four straight games, three touchdowns over that span, I think it's worth buying into with Fitzpatrick. I've got five of them from 27 to 44, like pretty scrunched up in that range all in this game. I'd go Parker, Anderson, Crowder, Preston Williams, and then Demaryius. That's pretty close to what I've got.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I think it's definitely format dependent. I'll take Thomas over Crowder and non-PPR. I just, I'll take anybody against this Dolphins secondary. They've got no one, and the pass rush isn't there. It should be easy for the Jets to make plays. But they have no offensive line either, so it's bad on bad. Yeah, but I'll still take a quarterback with a semblance of talent in that situation, I should say, not necessarily over anybody. Is Mark Walton a better flex than the wide receivers in this game?
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I could see... I really could see Robbie Anderson having... I'm going to fan duel Robbie Anderson, I think. He scored three of his last five against Miami. I mean...
Starting point is 01:17:22 What's the problem? Fan duel is a verb. I am going to fan duel him. I am going to fan duel him. I'm going to fan duel him. Yeah. I like it. I think a lot of people will. I wonder if he'll be
Starting point is 01:17:30 one of the more popular cheap receivers this week, which means that the other receivers on the Jets could be decent pivots. Remember, again, I said this before,
Starting point is 01:17:38 nine wide receivers have had six to nine targets against the Dolphins. Eight of them had 76 yards or a touchdown. And that is probably, based on what he's had in the games with Sam Darnold, that's probably the amount of targets
Starting point is 01:17:49 that Robbie Anderson's going to get. He's had six to eight targets in all four games with Darnold. All right, happy Halloween, guys. You excited? What'd you buy for everybody? I bought Kit Kats. Overrated Kit Kats for everybody.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Well, I'm excited. I hope the weather's okay. And have a great time out there, everyone. Stay safe. Don't egg any houses.

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