Fantasy Football Today - 11/09: Mailbag! (Record Fri.) (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 9, 2019The latest injury updates, some DFS advice and a bunch of your questions via Apple Podcasts and email. We'll try to figure out who to start Latavius Murray over. We'll help you with some trades and of... course we'll do some Regulating. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
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It is Saturday.
I hope you all are having a great weekend.
Ben Gretsch is here.
Ben, how was your Friday night?
Oh, it was fantastic.
I did a lot of things that I don't know that I'm going to do yet
because we're recording this on Friday afternoon as we always do.
So it's in the future for me talking now, but it's in the past for you listening.
Yeah, here on my Friday afternoon, I'm assuming I had a nice relaxing Friday night.
And I cooked dinner.
I know I cooked dinner.
Or, you know, I think I'm going to go through with that and cook dinner.
And I hope it's delicious.
I hope I didn't ruin another meal for me and my wife.
All right, let's rock and roll.
So we're going to read your Apple podcast questions.
We're doing some regulating.
We're actually getting requests from leagues to get this is great.
Like, hey, settle this for our league.
We listen to your show.
So we're going to do some regulating in a bit.
The Jets are hopeful.
It's Friday afternoon.
Hopeful to have Le'Veon Bell and Chris Herndon this week.
Ben, do you still like Le'Veon Bell or have you cast him aside in a messy breakup?
Yeah, no, it's been messy.
I'm worried about him.
He's banged up, obviously.
It's really hard to look at that schedule
and still not think that he's going to hit on something.
And he had quite a few catches late last week.
So even when they trail,
you know
he's going to get the receptions that that's what we were looking at we had that dual threat workload
we knew that in ppr leagues particularly that he had big upside he had over 20 points last week
without a touchdown so it didn't feel like he had a bad game he actually was really good in he had
11 points in ppr in non-ppr and he had 19 points in, well, it depends if you play decimals or not. You don't play decimals, 19 fantasy points in PPR.
It's weird.
It's like he had such a good game in terms of PPR, and it just feels like he was a dud
because he had 66 yards on 17 carries against the Dolphins.
Which is, I mean, and that's why you target that workload.
I mean, and that right there, what you just said, like it doesn't seem when you're watching it like he did well, but the
fancy points rack up. Right.
Okay, well, Chris Herndon, we'll see if he gets
back. I think people are going to be a little hesitant to start
Herndon, but there's still a lot to... And you should be.
Hamstrings are recurring injuries. It's taken
him so long to get back. You can't expect he'll
come out and play an 80% snap share. Right.
And there's still a lot to like long
term, but you probably want to fade him this weekend
and turn to someone like Jack Doyle.
How about O.J. Howard again, that dream matchup, or Chris Herndon?
Yeah, I'm going back to O.J. Howard.
I mean, I've been on Howard since the offseason,
and I've led some people astray with my O.J. Howard love,
but he's been just incredibly efficient throughout his entire career,
and he's still been
solid this year on a per target basis he just hasn't seen any targets so yeah um i'm yeah i'm
going back to him and i think uh he's a good play this week there is a part of me that thinks
oj howard could actually have a big second half it's a small part, but it exists.
Is it the part that looks at his 11.2 career yards per target?
He's just,
well,
I mean,
I said at the beginning of last year that he was kind of a breakout I had.
I like really liked him.
Just got lucky at a big year that he,
you know,
athletically he's on par with basically the great tight ends. He can do,
he could be an elite tight end.
So he's had some time that he's been injured,
but they've had a buy.
You know,
you wonder what their offense,
if it's going to be any different,
if they said,
Hey,
we have to get OJ Howard more involved.
We'll see.
I I'm certainly like,
it's basically like you have a free roster spot.
Give it a try.
Maybe. So clicks. And it a try. Maybe.
So I agree with all that.
Just real quick.
That eleven point two career yards per target.
I just mentioned I'm doing this off memory a little bit, but I'm pretty sure Gronk's career yards per target is nine point nine.
And that's the highest mark ever for a tight end.
Wow.
Howard doesn't have the requisite targets to be on that list.
You know, you got to have some kind of elevated tart like career for a career leaderboard. doesn't have the requisite targets to be on that list.
You know, you got to have some kind of elevated target,
like career, for a career leaderboard,
you got to have more of the targets than Howard has in his career.
But it's a pretty small sample to start his career,
but he's over a yard better than Gronk.
Cool.
So next news item, Patrick Holmes is going to start.
That's great.
Jacoby Brissett is a game time decision.
So we will see if he plays,
and then you'll have some questions like Brissett versus, well,
you know, Dak Prescott if Amari Cooper doesn't play.
You know, I think you obviously go Dak if Amari Cooper does play,
but that could be a toss-up.
I think we have some Brissett questions coming up,
but I don't know. I feel like, oh, okay. Garoppolo. I think we have some Brissette questions coming up, but I don't know.
I feel like... Oh, okay. Garoppolo.
I would go Dak over Brissette. You'd go Dak
even if Cooper doesn't
play? Yeah, and
yes, even if Cooper doesn't play.
And just to answer the Brissette side of it, he's a
game-time decision. Even if he plays,
he's going to be playing banged up
against Miami. And what I expect, what we're going
to see, whether Brissette plays or Hoyer plays,
is a ton of Marlon Mack.
And I think you might want to start Bursette over Garoppolo.
That's the only thing,
because the next news item is George Kittle is uncertain for this week.
And unless you know that Kittle is playing on Sunday,
I just don't want anything to do with Garoppolo if Kittle doesn't play.
But Seattle has given up.
I mean, they got torched by Andy Dalton back in week one. They got torched by
Matt Schaub. Well, Andy Dalton threw 51
passes, I think. They got torched by
yeah, but Schaub
and Jameis Winston last week.
They've been beat by some quarterbacks
that have otherwise looked bad. And I think that
says something about how their defensive
system is not
overly complex. It doesn't take a lot
to break down.
I think Garoppolo could still have a nice day.
Obviously, you want Kittle in there,
but Emmanuel Sanders has really come on well
as their number one receiver.
So I think I would still play Garoppolo over Brissette.
Okay.
The thing is though,
like Winston threw 44 passes,
Schaub threw 52 passes.
So the stat I gave on the Friday show,
the actual Friday show, was there's only been one quarterback
that has scored 20 or more fantasy points against the Seahawks with fewer than 44 pass attempts and
without a rushing touchdown and that was Teddy Bridgewater uh but I mean I like Garoppolo I just
I don't know what he's going to do if Kittle's not there. Those receivers are just not good enough. I know they have Sanders, but Kittle's his guy.
Okay, I respect your opinion, Ben Gretch.
So let's read our email of the day.
A lot of emails, but there's only one email of the day.
It's from your faithful friend, Barry.
Now, context here.
You may remember last week on the show,
I went on a bit of a rant about all these fantasy owners vetoing trades and how I can't stand it, Ben. You don't veto trades because
you think one side wins. You don't veto trades because you think another team is becoming too
good. You veto trades because of collusion or because it's not a justifiable trade or because
one of the owners that made it is not participating and shouldn't have made this trade, stuff like
that. So you're going on the raid again.
I'm done.
But our faithful friend Barry said,
you can't veto a trade because you think one side lost the trade. And I think the subject line of the email was
worst fantasy football rant ever.
You can't veto a trade because you think one side lost the trade?
Really?
Then why vote at all, you sanctimonious moron?
Just let all trades go through without review then.
I stopped listening to a different show because it became so lame.
Looks like you guys have now consistently sunk into their level.
Too bad for you and great for humanity.
Your show is the worst.
Later, losers. Your show is the worst later losers,
your faithful friend, Barry.
I'm sorry that I cost us a listener, Ben.
That's my bad.
Yeah, no, I mean, what's sad is that
Barry's not going to get to hear that he made the show.
You know, I mean, he probably been pretty well
that he was on the show,
but he's not going to be listening.
I bet you Barry's still listening.
I bet he hasn't actually left us.
You know, he had his little email rant.
He got it out of his system, and he realized, okay, it's all good.
And also, yeah, Barry, you nailed it.
Don't vote on trades.
Then why vote at all?
Yeah, you shouldn't.
Just let all trades go through.
And then if you have to undo one because it's so obviously collusion, you undo it after the fact.
But the trade review period is antiquated.
It should not exist. Oh, yeah. More
on that in a little bit. We have to decide a
big one in a league based on
a trade review period. All right, let's
read some emails, but first, any DFS
tips, Ben? Any DFS tips for the
listeners? Daily Fantasy Sports, i.e.
FanDuel. I mean,
there are a lot of
DFS tips we can give.
I bet a lot of our listeners, I think most
people... What's that? Who do you like
this week? Well, I was gonna say
I think a lot of people...
I think more of
the audience probably just plays a few
tournaments and is hoping to hit big.
They're not probably grinding out cash games and trying
to make a weekly
profit. They're hoping to hit something big. And if you're grinding out cash games and trying to make a weekly profit. They're
hoping to hit something big. And if you're doing that, you're playing in these big, large field
tournaments. You're entering the million-dollar tournaments. You want to be trying to identify
players that are going to be popular and trying to gain leverage on those players. It's incredibly
hard to win the major tournaments if you're on the same guys as everybody else. Because when those
guys hit, yeah, they're great for your lineup, but they're great for everyone else and you have to get the
exact combination correct on those weeks it raises the overall point scoring for every team in the
in the week you know in all the contests they're going to be really elevated total point uh scores
that win these tournaments so my biggest tip would be try to find leverage this week a good example
the stat that i keep hearing everywhere is that one of the two Bucs receivers has been a stud every single game since week two.
The last two weeks has been Mike Evans.
It was Godwin for a number of games.
Evans had the other blow up earlier in the year.
A lot of people are going to be on Godwin and Evans this week.
They're both going to have plenty of ownership.
I've seen people say you got to put one of them in every single lineup you make. And I think that's a reasonable way to look at that. The Bucs love to throw the ball downfield. They're playing going to have plenty of ownership. I've seen people say you've got to put one of them in every single lineup you make.
And I think that's a reasonable way to look at that.
The Bucs love to throw the ball downfield.
They're playing the Cardinals.
It's one of the highest scoring games.
That's a game that's going to have a lot of ownership because it has a high Vegas over-under.
And Ronald Jones is another really popular play in DFS this week because he's now the lead running back in a game that should have a lot of plays, a lot of volume, a lot of scoring.
I think O.J. Howard is one of the better leverage plays this week.
He's obviously in the Arizona matchup, and that will probably get him some ownership.
But I don't think a lot of people are going to actually play him.
I expect his ownership to come in in the single-digit percentages, and I don't think enough people are going to pile onto a guy who has been
very efficient at times in his career, is getting a matchup right now that Arizona's going to have
to pay attention to Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. This is the perfect spot for O.J. Howard to have
a multiple touchdown game, and what building leverage means is you're looking at Mike Evans
and Chris Godwin, and to a lesser extent, Ronald Jones, these guys that are going to be owned in a
lot of teams in your tournaments that you're in. If you play O.J. Howard and he has a multiple touchdown game,
that's not only good for your lineup,
it's also bad for everyone else's lineups that have Evans and Godwin and Jones.
So you're finding ways that you would benefit from the really popular plays doing poorly.
But do you also put Godwin in your lineup or you just put Howard or also Evans?
Because I have Godwin in one of my lineups.
And I was thinking about Howard, but I have Jared Cook as my tight end in my favorite lineup right yeah I mean I think if
you're if you want to do like you know a multiple person stack and and you want to game stack it and
you want to put Jameis Winston as your quarterback you can play two of the receivers on the same
team if you play two of the receivers on the same team you got to play the quarterback yeah right
like right there's too many you're you're hoping for too many touchdowns to not be playing Jameis
Winston in that scenario. I,
what I'm talking about with the building leverage would be to,
to be fading those guys and hoping that I will go.
Jay Howard has a multi-touchdown game and those guys don't score.
Well then,
you know,
then like Ted Ginn.
Yeah.
Ted Ginn's a great example.
I love Calvin Ridley this week.
Calvin Ridley had like 270 yards and four touchdowns in two games against the
saints last year.
Um,
so yeah,
he had that one monster three touchdown game.
Yeah.
And the other one was like 92 yards and a touchdown or something.
So,
um,
yeah,
I,
I,
I like there,
there's some pretty cheap wide receivers that there always are.
Marquis Brown's a cheap wide receiver.
I like Calvin Ridley's the same price.
Um,
I think a lot of people are going to be on Jamison Crowder.
Maybe you go to Robbie Anderson,
you know?
Yeah,
there you go. Right. Okay, cool. Yeah yeah you're looking at ways that you know and it doesn't have to be the same position you know it doesn't have to be another receiver on the same team
right it can be you know that you think the entire game will go differently people will be on um
you know devin singletary is a popular name this week as a running back for the the bills what if
cleveland leads that game then okay john brown John Brown would become a good play, and it might hurt Singletary,
although Singletary plays in the passing game as well.
But you're trying to think, okay, maybe the game script flips,
and it's not favorable for that running back.
Okay, well, how can I build leverage there?
Because there's ways that things – crazy things happen in football games.
Yeah, this is tournament thinking.
This is I'm going to take a shot and try to win a million dollars.
This is not 50-50 thinking where you're going to play it a little bit safer.
I mean, you could do that, but this is really swinging for the fences.
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go. Finally, some questions. Jojo needs to start three of these guys in half PPR. Mark Ingram,
Tyler Lockett, Devante Adams, Allen Robinson, and Odell Beckham.
I'm not going to start Odell Beckham.
I'm going to play Adams, Lockett.
Better say Ingram.
Man, Lockett's against the Niners, though.
Yeah, no, I'm going to play Ingram.
I'm wondering if I would play.
Yeah, I'm still going to play Lockett over Allen Robinson.
I just can't trust Mitchell Trubisky.
Macklin H.
Matt Breida, Damian Williams, or Sammy Watkins?
It wouldn't be Breida.
I really like Damian Williams.
I would like to say him, but I'm going to say Sammy Watkins.
I think he's the, especially if it's PPR.
If it's non-PPR, I think maybe Williams, but Watkins if it's PPR.
Disney fan, 1974.
Mahomes, Matt Ryan, or Josh Allen?
Mahomes.
And pick two running backs, Eckler, Gordon, Le'Veon Bell, and Ingram.
And so listen, yes, this came in on Thursday night.
I would have said, I probably would have been wrong,
but I would have said Bell and Ingram.
So let's just assume he started Melvin Gordon.
Now pick one out of Bell and Ingram. I'll Bell and Ingram. So let's just assume he started Melvin Gordon. Now pick one out of Bell and Ingram.
I'll probably take Ingram.
I'm assuming Bell's healthy.
It's tough.
But Ingram has a really good matchup against the Bengals' Rundy.
Ingram, great matchup this week.
From low in the cut, start at flex at half PPR.
Ronald Jones, Devontae Parker, or Marquise Brown?
Jones. Jones.
Jones. Okay.
All right. I'm going to be so mad if he comes off the field at the goal line. That's
my only concern here.
I don't think that will happen.
I think the reason Agumboale scored a short
touchdown last week was because they were in the hurry up.
Yes, that's true.
It's not helpful for Jones that
Agumboale plays in the hurry up,
but that's when Agumbo Ali scored late.
Last week, Jones did score a six-yard touchdown in the first drive.
I think he'll stay in there at the goal line.
We're hoping.
I like Jones especially here that it's half PPR
because we're hoping that he can run for quite a few yards against the Cardinals
because we know his receiving upside isn't quite that high yet.
Okay.
Some trade questions from Apple Podcasts. for quite a few yards against the Cardinals because we know his receiving upside isn't quite that high yet. Okay.
Some trade questions from Apple Podcasts. I'm in a non-PPR league and I'm 7-2
and I'm setting up for the playoffs.
I traded Lamar Jackson, James Conner, and Cortland Sutton
for Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Howard, and Michael Thomas.
So he goes from Lamar Jackson to Aaron Rodgers, from James Conner to Jordan Howard and Michael Thomas. So he goes from Lamar Jackson to Aaron Rodgers,
from James Conner to Jordan Howard.
It's a downgrade probably.
And from Cortland Sutton to Michael Thomas,
which is a huge upgrade.
And a reminder, Jordan Howard has a really favorable playoff schedule.
So what do you think?
It's close.
I think I would take his trade because Michael Thomas is the
best player in the deal pretty pretty easily and that's kind of like a tiebreaker but I still like
Lamar Jackson a lot more than Aaron Rodgers and I know that seems kind of wild even though
Rodgers did have a bad game last week but Rodgers has played well enough lately that
you know what I think there's generally optimism with rogers i think jackson is just
such a secure florida ceiling guy with his rushing he's just i mean we've talked about that all year
so it's a pretty big upgrade at quarterback or downgraded quarterback in my mind i think
rogers has the ceiling but doesn't have the same profile as jackson okay um yeah i think it's a
downgrade at running back but but i'll take i'll take thomas he's that good uh from jlb i have a
trade offer for david montgomery and Devin Singletary.
I would be getting both of those guys and giving up DeAndre Hopkins.
So give up Hopkins, get Montgomery and Singletary.
What do you think?
It depends on the rest of the roster, but I probably wouldn't.
I think Hopkins is worth more than those two guys combined. I like Singletary's upside the rest of the roster, but I probably wouldn't. I think Hopkins is worth more than those two guys combined.
I like Singletary's upside the rest of the year.
And, you know, I like Montgomery's too,
but I'm concerned about the Bears' offense.
Singletary doesn't get enough targets because Josh Allen does scramble,
even though he's playing a ton.
But he has three to five catches in three of five games.
I actually asked you about this, and he got hurt in one game
where he didn't have a catch.
And then his first game back from injury, he didn't have a catch.
But in the other three games, he has three.
He didn't play very many snaps in that game back.
We talked about this last week.
Yeah, he has three to five catches, so that's pretty good.
The problem is for Singletary, like Cleveland this week,
Miami next week, that's terrific.
Then it's Denver, Dallas, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh in New England
to end the year.
And New England, they're number one against running backs,
but they don't have a very good run defense, I think we've seen.
But still, Denver, Dallas, Baltimore, Pittsburgh could be really tough for them.
People have pointed that out.
Singletary's schedule gets pretty tough weeks 12 through 15.
That's something to keep in mind.
Montgomery, on the other hand, has a great schedule.
So I guess with Hopkins, it's like,
what about the fact that he wasn't really getting that many targets,
like a huge target share when Will Fuller was healthy?
Does that factor in?
But you're saying right now you'd rather have Hopkins
than those two running backs.
Yeah, no, I think it's a fair consideration,
but I think that was a combination of sample size
and other things on Hopkins. I still think he's a fair consideration, but I think that was a combination of sample size and other things on Hopkins.
I still think he's an elite receiver,
and I would rather have him than...
Essentially, the things that you just said about schedule,
to me, Singletary and Montgomery,
their upside is basically being RB2s.
So would you trade an elite receiver
for a couple of RB2s?
It depends.
I mean, if you need running backs that bad, maybe.
Yeah.
Okay, from The Bogue,
PPR, give up Carson and Sutton.
Carson and Sutton, get Cooper and Connor.
Ooh, a couple of injured guys coming back.
Yeah, I mean, it depends on health a little bit,
but I like Sutton a lot.
I'm going to take the Carson and Sutton side
and say that The Bogue lost this one a little bit, but I like Sutton a lot. I'm going to take the Carson and Sutton side and say that the Bogue lost this one a little bit.
From RaceDavid,
give Amari Cooper,
Aaron Jones,
and Mark Andrews
get Dalvin Cook
and Jordan Howard.
Amari Cooper, Aaron Jones, and Mark Andrews
for Dalvin Cook and Jordan Howard.
Yeah, that's a win. You like that?
Yeah, I do. I mean, Aaron Jones,
I don't think is going to continue
to have the same upside
with Devontae Adams back
because he was doing so much
splitting out and seeing downfield targets
and his receiving work
was so huge for him.
And then Jamal Williams is back as well.
He missed a little time.
I still really like Aaron Jones,
but I just don't.
I think he's his rest of season
doesn't really match
what he's done
over the last couple of months.
Mark Andrews also played a season-low snap share last week
or ran a season-low in routes after kind of a bad game in Seattle
a couple weeks ago.
I think we missed the window to sell high on Mark Andrews.
Yeah, I don't know that he's going to be like a stud the rest of the week.
He'll be up and down.
You're getting Dalvin Cook.
You're giving up a couple guys that I think are kind of trending down
and Cooper who's hurt.
Yeah, so Dalvin Cook. I'll take Dalvin Cook. Okay, well, Cooper couple guys that I think are kind of trending down, and Cooper, who's hurt. And yeah, so Dalvin Cook.
I'll take Dalvin Cook.
Okay, well, Cooper's expected to play this week, right?
That's the last I saw.
I actually didn't know.
You said in the top that he might not play,
so I was going off of you.
Yeah, he's got a knee thing,
but the latest I saw was that he was expected to play.
Okay, that's, yeah, I hadn't heard anything,
so I took those.
But remember, he's been dealing with injuries
since preseason.
He came out of one game with an injury,
thought he was going to miss the Eagles game and didn't.
I made a trade that I hate, that I kind of regret.
I gave up, in a 14-team league PPR,
I gave up Jamal Williams for Terry McLovin.
Yeah, I don't think that's that bad.
I mean, I don't like McLaurin the rest of the year. It's hard to,
but I don't really like Jamal Williams either.
Right. It's a good trade as long as Aaron Jones doesn't
get hurt. But if Aaron Jones gets hurt,
that's a good point. Then, you know,
you do have to somewhat consider that because Jones gets banged
up a lot. You could have just gave away
a league winner, but my goal is to flip
McLaurin for like a more reliable
running back than Jamal Williams.
Finally, from Jay from the barbecue
capital of the world, which is
New York City, where Hill Country Barbecue exists,
because Hill Country Barbecue is amazing.
That was fun. Oh yeah, that's right. We went there. It was so good.
That was good.
I have Winston and Brady. After this week's
bye for the Patriots, would you rather have
Brady or Foles rest of season?
I would rather have Brady or Foles rest of season? I would rather
have Brady. Yeah. Yeah, they both
have good schedules rest of season, but
I think don't
just completely trust Nick Foles because he has
his amazing matchups in the playoffs, but
so does Brady. Brady's got some good ones.
Brady usually plays well in
November and December.
He's, in previous
seasons, had some struggles in the early part of the year, but
been better later in the year.
Here we go, baby.
From Ryan. Let's
do it. Ryan says,
I am the commissioner of a
12-team standard league.
I'm 7-2 in first place,
and I traded with a guy who's in last
place. I offered him my AJ Green and Golden Tate for his Julian Edelman. He countered with AJ Green
and Evan Ingram for Edelman. And I jumped on it. So again, first place guy gives up AJ Green and
Evan Ingram. Last place guy gives up Edelman. The commissioner on it. So again, first place guy gives up AJ green and Evan Ingram.
Last place guy gives up Edelman.
The commissioner is the only one with vetoing powers,
but the league is revolting.
What do you think?
The league is not like a disgusting revolt,
the revolting.
They are like revolt,
you know,
revolting in that sense.
Um,
what do you think,
Ben?
Uh,
I assume this maybe happened before A.J. Green was ruled out.
I don't know.
He had a setback and then it's been in pending or something.
I mean, I think it's fine.
I think it's fine.
Is Julian Edelman that good?
Yes.
He's fine.
A.J. Green may not play.
We don't know.
He may not play at all this year.
Evan Ingram's hurt.
Evan Ingram's hurt. Evan Ingram's hurt.
He traded two hurt guys for Julian Edelman, a top 15 wide receiver.
I have a huge.
Is he going to miss the rest of the year?
Let me see if I can email this guy.
I think AJ Green is going to, but I'm kind of reading this as if this happened before.
I'm going to ryan right now when did you make
this trade before or after the new green ingram injuries because i i would have a big issue with
it if it was after both injuries when a two and seven team is giving up uh julian edelman for two
when a bad team trades with a really good team.
What's the point of him even making this trade at 2-7? Well, if you're not eliminated
from the postseason, I guess I got no problem
with it. Let me see if I can...
To your point about acquiring two injured
players, how is that helping him when he needs
to win every game? That's why
it's vetoable. However,
if he made this trade, because
Edelman's on a buy, if he made this trade
before we knew about the injuries, when it looked like Ingram and Green were both going to play this
weekend. Yeah, then you just let it go through. And that's what it seems like. That's what I would
guess. Yeah, exactly. All right. So I'll find out. I'll get a little bit more information,
hopefully by the end of the show. All right, next up, dear esteemed regulators. All right,
let's follow along here.
This one's a little tricky.
Another owner and I are playing each other this week.
On Wednesday, after texting back and forth for much of the afternoon,
I offered him Eckler, Foles, and the Bears DST for Brita, Carr, and the Pats DST.
It's close.
I texted him that he should go accept the trade before 6 p.m. Wednesday evening
to allow for the 24-hour window to go through before the Thursday game starts
so that he can start Eckler and I can start Carr.
I also called him to tell him, but he didn't answer.
I texted him to do this before 6 p.m. to allow us time to set our lineups
when the window clears.
But I mistakenly said because the game started at 7
when actually it started at 6.20.
But I did tell him to do it before 6 p.m.
thinking we could have an hour before game time
when it was really 20 minutes that we'd have to set our lineups.
Okay, so he's telling him to get this trade done
20 minutes before lineups set
because there are two players involved in the Thursday game.
After I had tried calling him at 4.45 p.m. he texted me saying that he was going to accept it but he accepted it at 6 19 p.m. therefore when the trade clears we will each have one minute
to set them in our lineups I didn't care but he cared a lot because he wanted to start Eckler
and didn't have the time to adjust the lineups.
In our group chat, he complained
to the commissioner that the commissioner should just push
the trade through without clearing
the 24-hour window. I argued
against it because rules are
rules and the 24-hour window
must pass. The commissioner said to
email you guys,
us, should we push the trade
through or let it clear the 24-hour window
because of negligence?
This is from P Money.
Should we let it go?
I mean, we already said earlier that there shouldn't even be these trade windows.
I mean, we had these like a decade ago in my longest running league.
I guess we still do, but I just always push trades through now.
I mean, this league's been around for like 20 years.
We've had issues like this,
and there's always issues like this.
And no one wants technical issues like this
in fantasy football.
Why do you want to be worried about
trying to set your line up one minute
before the game starts?
I think it's crazy.
Just let it go.
Push it through, man.
They want to make the trade.
What is the point of this window
push the trade through push it through it's insane yes trade windows are crazy like we can
take fans football seriously as we want but like obviously you guys agreed to a trade he said he
would he you know he texted you back and agreed to it said he'd accept in 20 minutes it took him
longer to get on the site probably was working i don't know maybe he was you know at his kid's
school or something who knows what's going on with him but it's fantasy football it's not that serious yeah come on come
on push it through all right anthony from virginia here oh i see i forgot the music i'm sorry anthony
you deserve better than that you know what anthony this is for you oh and i came in at the wrong note
well now the segment's ruined uh i'm in a high-stakes money league with friends from home.
When it comes to the veto, I'm in agreement with all of you that there either shouldn't be a veto,
or if there is one, it should be just for obvious collusion.
Trades have been going through in our league all year, but recently, my last four...
My last four, yes, four trades have been vetoed.
The reasoning, you may ask, some say trades are uneven while
others say my team would be too dominant if they went through. I believe they're just fine. Here
are some examples. I trade Stafford, Hopkins, and Mixon in a 2QB league for Ezekiel Elliott.
Or I trade John Brown, Sammy Watkins, and Joe Mixon and I would get Odell Beckham. Honestly,
I feel like I'm probably getting the worst end of these deals when my team is stacked and I'm trying to trade
quantity for quality. Most of the league members listen to your podcast, and I would love for you
to publicly berate them for being idiot morons and tell them that they should all kick themselves
out of the league. The league's name is Oakland. Needless to say, I'm kicking myself out of the
league next year and going to shove my face
in some disgusting candy corn that I won't get from Heath's house since he's a Grinch and doesn't
hand out Halloween candy okay yeah yeah I mean those are obviously trades that shouldn't get
vetoed and this is something that I've also experienced in leagues a long time ago where
you get in leagues that are among friends and they're like hey we just don't want so-and-so to win the league and it just becomes like a popularity contest and
you're like oh we're gonna veto these it's not like trading stafford hopkins and mixin for zeke
like i get it you don't want him to have zeke but the only reason you're vetoing that is because you
don't want him to have zeke not because that's not fair he's like he might lose this trade so
right let it go through i'm publicly berating you you are all idiot i mean i don't want him to have Zeke. Not because that's not a fair trade. He's like, he might lose this trade. So let it go through.
I'm publicly berating you.
You are all idiot morons.
I mean, I don't like being told that we should publicly berate them.
No, I do.
I like that.
You really did it.
I can't believe this.
I have a picture to prove it.
You idiot.
You are such an idiot.
Like, what the hell is the matter with you?
You moron.
I hate you.
There you go.
You idiot morons.
Okay.
Glad we could regulate.
Let's read some more emails.
Fantasyfootballatcbsi.com from Joshua.
Should I drop Josh Gordon and pick up and start A.J. Brown?
Corey Davis has not been practicing all week.
I mean, if you have to start one of them, yeah.
Josh Gordon has a little ankle thing that's been bugging him.
I don't want to start him against the Niners.
They've got to buy next week.
I don't know how reliable Josh Gordon will be the rest of the year.
So, yeah, and I like A.J. Brown.
I would rather have Josh Gordon at this moment,
but if you've got to start somebody, yes.
This is from Patrick.
Should I pick up – oh, sorry.
Should I drop Auden Tate?
There we go.
No.
Should I drop A.J. Green?
There we go.
And pick up either Auden Tate or Josh Reynolds.
Yes.
Yeah, AJ Green should be cut in all leagues at this point.
I mean, I can understand holding him in really deep leagues.
Obviously, in Dynasty, you're going to hold him.
But there was just never any positive news.
And then he finally got some positive news.
And then he suffers a setback and he's out indefinitely.
You've wasted a roster spot for too long like you can't justify it anymore i would i would probably pick up tate
because he's got more long-term value if you need to start someone this week though i like reynolds
more i don't know i feel like aj green and brandon cooks could both be out for the uh an extended
period of time well cooks came out and uh he had a message on instagram where he said he's excited
to get back yeah i know But he didn't say when.
I mean, they're going to be pretty cautious with him.
But that's fine.
I mean, I don't think it's an obvious answer either way.
From Jonathan, subject Waller panic.
Is it time to pick up a second tight end with the Oakland offense improving and diversifying?
I could pick up Howard, Doyle, Herndon, and Gusecki.
Sure.
Yeah, I mean, the Oakland offense is improving and diversifying.
I've been writing about this and stealing signals for a couple of weeks.
We saw Waller and Williams really get to dominate the targets in September.
And since Williams has been back from his injury, now that Hunter Renfro has come on,
he tied with the team lead with five targets on Thursday Night Football with Waller and
Williams, but also with Josh Jacobs.
And since they added Zay Jones, who had three targets,
yeah, they're spreading the ball around more and they're in more games lately
so they haven't been throwing as much. So yeah, I mean, it's definitely
impacted Waller's target ceiling. I still think you're playing Waller over any of those guys any
given week, but I don't mind picking up. I would probably, in this scenario,
target the
three that are not doyle because i think doyle is probably the least upside i'd target a guy that's
an upside guy that if he hits uh has the potential to to be someone you'd want to start over waller
and that would be howard herndon and gaseki are all good options for that yeah i think i'd probably
go herndon yeah i think i'd go herndon i was gonna say howard but then i transitioned to her and by
the way quick update for you.
That AJ Green and Evan Ingram
for Julian Edelman trade
proposed by the
2-7 team this
morning, Friday morning.
Knowing the injuries.
I would veto
the hell out of that trade. That trade cannot stand.
You've got to have to veto that.
It's terrible.
What is he doing? I don't know, man. That trade cannot stand. You've got to have to veto that. It's terrible. What is he doing?
I don't know, man. That guy's not good at
fantasy football. Okay, this is from Mark.
No one's talking about Seahawks
tight end Jacob Hollister, but he was heavily
schemed for in that Tampa Bay game.
This offense is throwing to the open guy that is usually
schemed open. I bet Kittle
plays, but Jacob Hollister might
be a great fallbackback break glass in case of
emergency type guy and much more um i think that ed dixon could throw a wrench in those plans
i actually wrote that exact break glass in case in case of uh i wrote this exact strategy in uh
the news and notes this morning and i said it on a pot i think a podcast episode
or just i don't know i i've i've written that or said that twice this week have you been going on
other podcasts or or our podcast i i was on uh i was a guest on wednesday sorry i cheated on you
son of a so hollister does make a lot of sense as somebody who you could potentially play over
kiddo the other thing you have to keep in mind, though,
is Hollister wasn't playing a full snap share or running a full route share with Luke Wilson healthy.
Luke Wilson had a rib injury early in that game,
and Hollister's routes, he ran routes on like 80-plus percent of the dropbacks.
He played a ton.
And you just noted, Ed Dixon might be back.
Luke Wilson is supposed to play again this week.
We might see a rotation again at tight end.
I don't actually think they did scheme for him i think they used him in a full role because luke
wilson got hurt uh and they couldn't do their typical rotation yes he has upside he's good
and i think he could play well on sunday night and i do think he's a great fallback breaking glass
you know break in case of glass break glass in case of injury type of guy.
So, yeah, I mean, if you don't have another option for Kittle and you want to keep and hold on to Kittle,
who looks like a legitimate game-time decision,
and I actually think he, reading the tea leaves,
I don't think he's going to go.
So in one league I have both Kittle and Waller.
I haven't been able to trade either from all season.
It's not a very active trade league.
I played Waller.
I'm not going to play Kittle this week. But, yeah, if you don't have another option, Hollister's a very active trade league. I played Waller. You know, I just, I'm not going to play Kittle this week.
But, yeah,
if you don't have another option,
Hollister's a good guy to add.
From Andrew.
Hey, Alexis, Stevie, Moira, and Roland.
I had to Google this.
I don't know.
But I don't think I can say the name of it.
I just think, like, it's so cheap.
They're getting away with cursing
by spelling it differently.
It's that show,
S-C-H-i-t-t
apostrophe s creek oh right you know it's like you're cursing like you're just cursing it's not
clever it's just cursing uh i'm in a 10 team ppr league i have chubb levion bell james connor and
jalen samuels i'm panicking about chubb's workload as my rb1 levion milking injuries and shutting it
down this season mr glass connor getting injured again should i keep my running backs as is chubb's workload as my RB1. Le'Veon milking injuries and shutting it down this season. Mr. Glass Connor getting injured again.
Should I keep my running backs as is?
Chubb, Le'Veon, Connor, and Samuels?
Or should I shop Le'Veon or Chubb and see what I can get?
No, I think you're fine.
I would keep it as is.
I mean, I understand the concern.
All of these guys have some red flags,
but you have both Connor and Samuels.
If Connor's out, you play Samuels every week that he's out.
Samuels had 13 catches last week.
I don't know why people think that was bad.
That's a really good thing.
That's the Austin Eckler situation
where you have the pass catching back
playing the massive snap share.
He had 21 touches and caught a ton of passes.
He's a great option this week.
So as long as Connor's out, you play Samuels,
and you should be able to play one of Chubber Levingon.
You're fine.
From Brian,
which trade is better in a standard league Hill and hide Tyreek Hill and
Carlos Hyde for Le'Veon Bell and DJ Chark or Hill and hide for,
for Leonard Fournette and Sammy Watkins.
So basically we'd rather have Bell and Chark or Fournette and Watkins.
I'm going to take Fournette and Watkins.
All right.
Next email is from John.
Rank these quarterbacks rest of season.
Six points per passing touchdown league.
Kyler Murray, Phillip Rivers, Nick Foles.
Kyler?
I'll go Foles and then Rivers
just because Foles has the
Oakland and Atlanta matchups in the playoff
I love that playoff schedule
Rivers has a decent playoff schedule too
yeah decent but not
great I mean Foles has a much better
schedule well Minnesota and Oakland
are at home Minnesota you're the one who
noted that their corners get crushed and they've been
getting deep through the year but But it's not great.
No.
Like, Oakland's great.
They both get open.
But then again, he just stunk against Oakland.
I think it falls over rivers, yeah.
Okay.
Dear George, Noah, TJ, and Parker.
I feel like I should know that.
George, Noah, TJ, and Parker.
I don't know.
Oh, are they tight ends?
Yeah.
They're all from Iowa.
George Kittle, Noah Font, TJ Hawkinson,
and I don't know who Parker is, but they're all from Iowa.
Stafford is my quarterback where a backup is required.
I have Daniel Jones.
But Josh Allen is available.
Who do you start, and is Allen a preferable backup rest of season?
This is from Adnan.
From Sioux City.
Iowa Hawkeye. Oh, okay.
Parker Hesse is a Titans
practice squad.
Okay.
Both of my parents went to
the University of Iowa. I was born on campus.
Really?
No kidding. What was the question? When my parents went to the University of Iowa, I was born on campus. Really? Yeah.
No kidding.
What was the question?
I would drop Daniel Jones.
I would start Matthew Stafford, and I'd drop Daniel Jones for Josh Allen.
There you go.
That works.
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Starter set from Rusty.
I need some advice in PPR.
JD McKissick or Juju Smith-Schuster or Josh Gordon?
Not Josh Gordon.
Those other two are not really great options,
but I would play Juju in this scenario
and just hope for his upside to shine through.
I get McKissick having some value,
but I wouldn't really be that pumped on him.
This is from Jordan.
I mean, to elaborate on that just a little,
they're playing the Bears.
The Bears have been bad against the run,
but he's not their running back.
He's their receiving.
He's like the Theo Riddick,
and I would rather have Ty Johnson this week
for the Lions backfield.
And Juju's facing potentially Jalen Ramsey
could have a tough one.
I know people who don't want to start him.
So here's another Juju question from Jordan
from the Sunshine Daydream Town in Oregon.
What does that mean, West Coast Ben?
I have no idea.
14-team non-PPR.
I have to win out to make the playoffs,
and I have to win this week.
My opponent is projected to crush me,
and I need sealing.
So pick two wide receivers and a flex.
Juju Smith-Schuster, Tyler Lockett, Ted Ginn,
Christian Kirk, Alexander Madison, and Bilal Powell.
I'm playing Kirk there, and I'm playing Lockett,
even though it's a really tough matchup.
Yep, exactly.
I think I...
Yeah, what do you think?
Ginn, Juju, Powell, or Madison?
If Le'Veon Bell were to be out, I would play Bilal Powell, I think.
But if he plays, which we're expecting,
I'm probably going to play Ted Ginn in that shootout.
That's what I was going to say. Nice.
From Patrick, pick two of four in PPR.
Todd Gurley, Robert Woods, Tevin Coleman, Devin Singletary.
I mean, Singletary.
The Rams could have a bad game.
I mean, they're just not very good on the road,
but they're coming off a bye,
and it's hard to sit both Gurley and Woods.
You'd think you'd play one of those guys, but this is tough.
These are close.
Yeah, I'm leading Tevin Coleman.
Yeah, I mean, I can see that.
The thing is, he's probably going to catch two balls
because he catches two every game.
Woods gets five.
That's a pretty big edge right out of the gate on Coleman.
I still would do it.
I mean, they're getting healthier.
They should be able to run the ball better.
Sam Fran. Yeah, I'm going Coleman and
Singletary here. I mean, with no cooks,
Woods could definitely have a big game.
Coleman and Singletary
and if not,
then I think Robert Woods is the option.
Okay. Next email is the option. Okay.
Next email is from Jesse.
Who should I start?
Standard scoring.
Jalen Samuels, John Brown, or Robbie Anderson?
Samuels for me, even though it's standard. I mean, the workload is great.
I understand you're not going to get the points for the catches,
but even without them, you're going to get yardage.
And receiving yardage, you're going to get more yards per touch on a catch
than you are on a carry. And he's obviously going to have pretty good touchdown
equity i think john brown's also a decent option but i i'd go samuel by the way trey edmonds is
going to play for the steelers so that does limit jaylen samuels upside a little bit i mean he
played 17 snaps last yeah but he had 12 carries yeah he had 12 carries he's gonna run he's gonna
take some care uh some rush attempts away but samuels is gonna play a ton so max from there matt yeah me too max from new york city
although god john brown is so safe he's so safe yeah i mean he's a reasonable option for sure
all right max from new york city half ppr tight end and a flex oj howard or chris herndon
oh we already answered this.
We said Herndon.
Yeah, we're going Howard here.
We said Herndon?
I don't remember.
I changed my mind halfway through.
No, that was the upside play for like a backup spot.
Oh, okay.
Go Howard then, yeah.
I want Howard in this matchup,
but we don't know how much Herndon's going to play this week.
Latavius Murray or Michael Gallup?
I am already starting Alvin Kamara.
That's tough because we got some quotes this week that sounds like Murray's going to play a decent amount.
I think I would play both the Saints backs.
I like Gallup, but no, I'm going to play Gallup.
They're playing the Vikings.
Sorry.
Yeah, we know the Vikings corners can't cover receivers very well.
I like Gallup's potential for big air yards.
Okay.
Lucas in a small town in Iowa.
You know all about small towns in Iowa, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I don't know which one, though.
I moved when I was three.
Council Bluffs.
Deer, Scott, Driver, West, and Lambert.
I know that.
Man, I'm not hitting on these today.
These are Adams. Okay. It's okay. I wouldn't expect you to get that. Man, I'm not hitting on these today. These are Adams.
Okay.
It's okay.
I wouldn't expect you to get that.
That's for me.
I've struggled to find tight ends,
and I've been streaming with poor results.
I've accumulated several over the year,
and I can't believe I'm saying this,
but I actually have three guys I like this week.
Who you got?
Mike Gasicki, Jonu Smith, or Chris Herndon?
Man, I like Gasickicki with pressing Williams out.
I'm going to go there.
He has had some pretty solid air yards multiple weeks in a row since their bye,
and he seems like the other downfield threat.
Now that Williams is going to be out,
we know that Fitzpatrick likes to push the ball down the field.
I expect him to get some downfield looks.
One news item I didn't give, though, and this is my bad,
Delaney Walker is not going to play this week.
So I'd go Johnnie.
Yeah, I'd go Janu.
Yeah, I'd still go Vasecki. No Corey Davis.
All right, all right.
Those are not bad options, though.
I think Janu's a little overrated.
Anthony Fercher still runs some routes and gets out.
The Janu's route share isn't a ton.
I like Janu, but I think he's a little bit overrated.
From Justin in a large city in Southern California.
Los Angeles?
Sure.
Deer, snap, crackle, and pop.
Those are the Rice Krispies.
I like Rice Krispies.
It's a good cereal.
Throw a little banana in there.
It's really good.
Must win week for me.
What did you say?
When we were kids, we used to put just straight sugar in it,
and that was good because it was just adding sugar to it.
Yeah, I bet that was good.
Non-PPR star to my flex, Curtis Samuel or Latavius Murray?
I already have Camara.
Man, same question.
I know, it's tough.
I hate Latavius.
I'll take Samuel.
I hate Latavius Murray.
It's a very similar question.
It's a guy who gets air yards.
He's going to have the potential to have a big hit down the field,
and I'm going to bank on that.
Yeah, and the Packers give up the most pass plays of 40-plus yards.
From Jay, I need a running back and a flex in PPR.
Marlon Mack, Chris Carson, David Montgomery.
Pick a running back.
Mark, Marlon Mack.
I'm going to play Mack.
I think Mack, like I said i said my dfs article i
picked him as one of my dfs plays if he doesn't rush for 100 yards this week it will surprise me
i i think they're going to go really run heavy i don't see a lot of scenarios where miami leads
and they're just going to lean on mac and the other thing that hurt mac last week a little bit
was paris campbell got a few carries and got some short area targets. Now Campbell's out as well.
They're going to lean on Mac.
They almost have to.
I just love the matchup with Miami and I think he runs for a hundred yards pretty easily.
Okay.
And then,
uh,
Godwin or Adams or Carson or David Montgomery for the flex.
Uh,
man,
it's gotta be Godwin or Adams.
I like them both.
I'm gonna take Godwin here.
Yeah. I mean, it's a great matchup. Until I see Adams is healthy, because he
even admitted he's not 100%.
Right, but I do like Adams a lot.
From Steven, Juju
Smith-Schuster or Jamison Crowder?
Let's go Crowder. I hate
that. I love Juju so much, but...
Crowder for me as well.
Okay, next email.
Dear Kobe, Zach, Otto, Lori, and Wendell.
These are basketball players.
Are they?
I think they're Chicago Bulls.
Kobe White, is he on the Bulls?
Lori Markkinen is.
Lori Markkinen, yeah.
Yeah, I think, gosh, I need to watch more basketball. Is it Zach Levine? on the Bulls? Laurie Markkinen is. Laurie Markkinen, yeah.
Yeah, I think, oh gosh,
I need to watch more basketball.
Is it Zach Levine?
I don't watch enough basketball.
Yeah, I was watching the other night,
the end of the Warriors-Rockets game,
and it was such a blowout that Mike Breen and Jeff Van Gundy
were talking about the best movie sequels ever,
and Mike Breen gave such a,
Mike Breen's basically my idol.
I want to be Mike Breen.
He gave one of the worst answers.
He said Jaws 2 is one of the greatest movie sequels ever.
That is such a bad answer, Mike Breen.
I don't remember Jaws 2.
You're still one of my heroes,
but you forgot Terminator 2.
That's really what the...
That's a great sequel.
They said Godfather 2,
but Terminator 2 is also...
Godfather 2 is a great sequel.
And I don't think they said Empire Strikes Back,
but that's always high on the list.
Okay, anyway.
Start a running back and a wide receiver and a flex this week.
Joe Mixon, Jalen Samuels, Damian Williams.
Pick one.
I'm going to go Samuels, even though I really like...
We might use Damian Williams as the flex.
Who are the flex options?
Pick a wide receiver first.
Patience.
Devontae Parker, Golden
Tate, Zach Paschal.
Golden Tate. With
Sterling Shepard and Evan Ingram out, you have to like
Tate this week. I think I would start
Paschal over Tate in non-PPR.
Tate, six catches, four straight weeks.
Yeah, yeah, but in non-PPR.
I'm still going to use Tate. Alright.
And then pick a flex. Mixon,
Damian Williams, Devontae Parker, Zach Paschal.
And this is where I'll use Williams.
Okay.
I don't know what the format is, by the way.
Thank you for the question, Aman.
And we are out of here.
Thank you so much, everybody.
I hope you're having a great weekend and, you know, have fun out there.
Me and Adam had great Friday nights.
Oh, so good.
Those meatballs I made.
It's going to be a bit of a challenge.
I'm going to watch my Huskies hopefully upset Baylor on the road.
On Friday night?
Yeah, they got a Friday night basketball game.
They have two top ten recruits in this class.
Ooh.
Yeah.
All right.
A couple of true freshmen.
I'm excited to see their new look team.
It's their first game.
Cool, man. Good stuff. I would excited to see their new look team. It's their first game. Cool, man.
Good stuff.
I would love to watch my alma mater play basketball tonight,
but I have to stay married, and that's not going to work.
So we'll talk to you all on Sunday with the recap.
Take it easy.