Fantasy Football Today - 11/09: Start or Sit (NFC Home Games); Beat the Waiver Wire (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 9, 2018Brandon Marianne Lee joins the show to help us out with Start or Sit! We're beginning with a recap of Thursday's game and our thoughts on the PIT backfield going forward. Is it really Le'veon Bell tim...e? Also, do we trust Ben Roethlisberger in his next two games @JAC and @DEN? And can you drop the CAR WRs? ... IdiotMoron move of the century (10:00)! Wait until you hear what Adam did. Startometer for Week 10 (21:45) with players from the SEA-LAR, DAL-PHI and NYG-SF games. And we've got a lot of good Beat the Waiver Wire (25:45) suggestions for next week with a lot of teams on bye ... WAS-TB (31:31), DET-CHI (41:30), MIA-GB (50:16), SEA-LAR (55:58), DAL-PHI (1:01:00), NYG-SF (1:05:10) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Alright, everybody, welcome to the Friday show, Start or Sit.
For those NFC home games, there are six of them, including Sunday night and Monday night.
We got some Le'Veon Bell news.
Is he finally coming back?
Try to figure it out.
Who's we, by the way?
Well, I'm Adam Azer.
You know that.
Jamie's not here.
Dave's not here.
Heath's not here.
They're all in New York at the tailgate.
Brandon Marianne Lee of Her Fantasy Football is here.
You heard her in the preseason.
Now here we are in week 10.
Welcome back to Fantasy Football Today.
Hi, how are you?
Ironically, coming from New York.
You're in New York, that's right.
Everybody's in New York but me.
I'm in Florida this weekend.
How about that?
How's New York?
I hear it's crappy up there.
I hear the weather sucks.
It's cold. It's reminding
us it's November, let me tell you.
Yeah, it's beautiful down here.
So, you know.
Rub it in, Adam.
Just saying. It's a big show
for you. You gotta give a lot of fantasy
advice. Six games, plus
last night's game, plus beat the waiver
wire. It's a big show.
Yeah, this is a
little intimidating i'm not gonna lie to you adam uh you were like you want to be a guest i was like
sure then you're like here is everything i was like ah it'll be fine yeah it'll be fine we'll
get through it together we'll rock and roll let's start with pittsburgh 52 carolina 20 is 52
carolina 21 uh you know before we break down the game, James Conner is in the concussion protocol.
And wouldn't you know, Le'Veon Bell could report next week.
Don't know that means he's going to play next week.
Steven Ridley and Jalen Samuels both got some work late in the game.
And what do you think about the Steelers running back situation now
going forward, Brandon, Mary, and Lee,
if Le'Veon Bell does in fact report next week, which the Steelers apparently believe will happen?
Yeah. Oh, what a disaster. I'm sure you guys have discussed this on the show numerous times.
Just a few times.
Just a little, just a couple times. It's just a minor story in fantasy land. It really is.
You know, it's funny because people always complain about david johnson and
as someone who has david johnson in some leagues but as someone who also has levion bell i'm always
like really this is the guy you're complaining about i gotta do it i don't even know if he's
gonna play this week that's right this year this year anytime in the future like hello so uh yeah
if he does report i don't think they're gonna bench connor all the way out i don't think there's
any way they can do that.
No, they can't.
So I think we have a real problem on our hands in fantasy.
So let's hope for the best for James Connor.
Obviously, concussions are scary, and we want the best for him.
You want to keep your eye on this.
Whoever is in this backfield, though, produces fantasy points.
So it's a moot point, you guys.
If anyone is on the field, they are someone that we want to have out there. field though produces fantasy points so that is a it's a moot point you guys if he's good if anyone
is on the field they are someone that we want to have out there so if that ends up being jill and
samuels like that's the guy that we're gonna go get then if levion bell comes back uh they gotta
make sure that he's up to snuff when is he gonna be back i mean at this point is it even worth him
coming back i i don't know i still think you might be able to get a ton for him.
And if you're trying,
if you would like have to move now and in dynasty leagues,
I'm actually looking to move him.
I don't know about you,
but yeah,
cause I don't know where he's going to be next year.
I don't know what he's going to do next year.
Yeah.
I don't either.
And I hope he doesn't come back to Pittsburgh.
If I own,
obviously if you're a Connor owner and Connor, I didn't really think Connor was so great, but I think he's shown the back to Pittsburgh. Obviously, if you're a Conor owner. And Conor, I didn't really think Conor was so great.
But I think he's shown the last few weeks.
He's pretty damn good.
I like the way he runs.
He looked really good last night.
Looked like a really good player.
Not just somebody taking advantage of an opportunity.
So that was good to see.
I do expect Conor, at least at the beginning.
If Conor's healthy next week and Bell is back, I don't know that Bell plays. He might
not play for two weeks. If
Conor's healthy next week, he'll be a 100%
must-start next week. If he's not
healthy, I don't know if they rush back
Le'Veon Bell, or maybe they
turn to Steven Ridley. My guess is Ridley
would be more likely.
Just for reference, last year, Ridley
played in Week 17 with Le'Veon Bell sitting,
and he had 17 carries for 80 yards and a touchdown against the Cleveland Browns.
So just like Brandon said, anyone who plays in this offense is good.
Dynasty, I haven't, I guess, really thought about it.
You're probably more of a Dynasty person than I am.
I'm in two Dynasty leagues.
I don't own a Steelers running back in either one.
Oh, well, that's a little bit of a bummer.
But, yeah, I think I play in a few Dynasty leagues. I don't own a Steelers running back in either one. Oh, well, that's a little bit of a bummer. But yeah, I think I play in a few dynasty leagues. One of them I'm rebuilding, another one
I'm winning. I mean, that's just how it works in dynasty. It feels like you're in one mode or the
other. But yeah, no, and I think also people are already asking keeper questions. And I always want
to tell people, I'm like, listen, we're in double digits and the season's flying by. But you're
keeper. You're not going to decide that till July, people.
So we do need to chill about that.
But let me tell you, this Le'Veon Bell thing, if you're just holding on to him to be the one guy that you're keeping next year, I think that was a mistake.
All right.
So elsewhere in this game, Christian McCaffrey was incredible.
He scored three touchdowns.
He had about 140 total yards.
I am facing – I wishie were on the show because i
am facing him in our idp league which is ppr and i have ben roethlisberger antonio brown and
christian mccaffrey so that's good stuff yeah i think i have like 105 points and he is 15 right
now um i might lose you never know uh cam newton was he played well you well That interception was terrible
He played fairly well
He got beat up man
They were all over him
He now has multiple touchdown passes in 8 straight games
But this was a really disappointing performance
Got pulled late in the game
Because the game was out of reach
23 of 29 for 193 yards
He'll take that but only 10 rushing yards
18 fantasy points was not what we were expecting
And it looked like it was going to be a great game for him at halftime.
He had the two touchdowns, but it just didn't work out.
Anyway, do you think Devin Funchess and DJ Moore are droppable?
No.
I think this game was funky town.
I mean, it was one of those no one expected Carolina to go in there
and get embarrassed.
If you'd been watching Carolina's tape the rest of the season, that was surprising.
So, no, I don't think they're fully droppable unless you're in a tiny league, of course.
But, you know, as far as I can tell, unless someone breaks out this week because of an injury
and you know they're definitely going to play next week,
I don't see anyone else that's just easily available that I'm like,
yeah, I'd rather have them than a top wide receiver playing with Cam Newton.
Because even though camp cams kind of like Russell Wilson,
they don't pass a lot,
but when they do,
there are touchdowns.
So the touchdowns is where you're going to get that big bulk of the fantasy
points.
So I,
I'd be hard pressed to hear the name of the person you should drop them for,
I guess would be my question,
but you know what?
It's always about comparison.
Yeah.
Well,
if I,
I mean,
can't drop them now, obviously, but
Tuesday when we do our waiver wire show,
we'll talk about it. I could see Christian Kirk being somebody
that I'm dropping Funchess or
Moore for.
Yes, I would do that. Well, Christian Kirk
is usually picked up today. I agree.
Yeah, absolutely. I don't know why people don't have
this guy. The volume's been there all season. Because they have Oakland
next week, and he's going to be one of our beat the waiver
wire guys. Christian Kirk is
50% owned. I think he's a wide receiver you
should look at. I also think Willie Sneed will get
to beat the waiver wire.
Could be all right for you in PPR.
Other thoughts from this game? Great games for Brown
and Juju. Vance McDonald. Look,
the Carolina Panthers are
this year what the Giants were last year.
They are almost a guaranteed touchdown
for tight ends.
Nine games, a touchdown to a tight end in seven of nine games.
So McDonald and Jesse James both caught touchdowns in this game.
And here's the last thing from this game.
Ben Roethlisberger, his second game with more than 40 fantasy points and six points per pass in touchdown leagues.
He's unbelievable primetime at home.
But his next two games are at Jacksonville and at Denver.
His schedule going forward is pretty road heavy.
Of course, two of those road games are at Oakland and at New Orleans.
Those are weeks 14 and 16.
So maybe you'll get away from Ben the next two weeks.
After that, you're starting him all the time.
But at Jacksonville, at Denver, how do you think he comes through in those two games I don't like him those two games this is
why I actually talk about this a lot in the preseason people always poo-poo it but I have
a different technique when it comes to streaming quarterbacks and Ben Roethlisberger is very much
in the mix on this I like to pair quarterbacks and stream them on my own team I don't want to
go to waivers I don't want to use my waiver priority or fab money on quarterbacks.
Instead, what I do is I draft Roethlisberger and Wilson
or Matt Ryan and Roethlisberger.
My favorite pairing is always Russell Wilson and Phillip Rivers
because their fantasy numbers always coincide.
Russell Wilson gets better at the end of the season
and Phillip Rivers always falls off.
That's good.
So I like to coordinate those.
But, yeah, so for me,
yes, I would not have him out
in the next two weeks.
Listen, every point counts now.
We are in the double digits.
We are only a few weeks away
from the fantasy playoffs.
Do not drop a Ben Roethlisberger
to stream and be cute with Andy Dalton.
But do keep him on your team
because Oakland, New England,
and New Orleans in the fantasy playoffs,
and then Cincinnati if you play in Week 17, beautiful.
You can't ask for anything better.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
All right, that's it for 52-21, Pittsburgh over Carolina.
A blowout and not quite a bonanza.
I think I got that one wrong.
It's because of the Panthers.
I mean, McCaffrey got all the scoring, but Cam didn't really come through,
and neither did anybody in the passing game.
Disappointing game for Greg Olson.
Programming note for you.
So, yeah, listen, I got to apologize to all the listeners.
No Saturday mailbag this week.
I'll do my best to answer your questions, you know, in the inbox.
I'll try to reply to you.
But just a busy week for me with some family festivities here,
and everybody else is in New York.
So no mailbag this week.
I really do apologize.
Brandon, we have something called an idiot moron move.
Earlier this year, Heath, without my permission on a team that we share, dropped Carson Wentz
for Quincy Anunua, which prompted me to call him an idiot moron on the air.
Just went off on him.
I just was so mad.
And we got Wentz back, luckily.
We're starting him this week.
But I made the idiot moron move of the century last night.
Didn't realize it until this morning.
Oh, no.
I dropped.
I needed a DST,
and I picked up the Redskins DST in a two quarterback
league. I dropped Marlon Mack. Yeah, it was an accident. It was an accident. That is what? I
don't know how I did it. I meant to drop the Vikings DST for the Redskins DST, but I clicked
on Marlon Mack. They both have like a K in their name.
Maybe that's what confused me.
But yeah, I know.
So Jamie put it to Twitter.
What should I do?
Should I give Adam Marlon Mack back?
I need him for this week, you know.
And what would you do, by the way, if you were the commish?
Because I said, Jamie, you got to give me Marlon Mack back.
I'd actually, well, yeah, I think I would probably do it because he's a must start.
That just seems, because also it would be a huge advantage to ever picked him up.
Yeah, it's not fair.
To the point where that's like not really fair.
You know, you can't do that.
But I might bring it to a vote.
I don't know.
Just give it back to me.
Yeah, I probably would just because I don't know i just kind of just give it back to me i yeah i probably would just because
i don't like people to win because other people like just you know click the wrong thing also
i'm having some problems maybe with my apple computer since the updates but i do i am clicking
on things that it's not really like registering when i'm setting lineups and stuff and i'm trying
to move things i've actually noticed that i don't know if it's the recent update. I would say this is a good reminder
to everybody. Double check
before you're clicking and double
check what's happening.
You can imagine my surprise when I
saw that waiver claim. I was like, what?
Because I love Marlon Mack
and I held on to him through his struggles, through
his injuries, and then I'm not about to drop him
for the Redskins DST.
But somebody said that I need to tweet out that Die Hard is a Christmas movie
and Jamie, because I am very much anti that,
and Jamie will restore Marlon Mack onto my team.
Jamie's okay with that.
I am not sure what's more important to me,
getting Marlon Mack back or keeping my conviction that Die Hard's not a
Christmas movie.
So we'll find out later on today.
Then I wouldn't give it back to you.
If that's honestly how you feel, if it's still a debate, then I'd be like, then fine.
Marlon Mack is someone else's.
That's how I feel about that.
I don't like that.
Everybody knows that I'm the commissioner that would, of course, give Marlon Mack back.
All right.
Well, we'll see what happens.
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All right, Brandon, Mary Ann Lee,
let's find out more about you.
How is your fantasy season going?
Oh, it's been crazy busy.
You know, we are not doing the Her Fantasy Football podcast
this year, but I'm, you know, obviously, you know, writing for Sportsline, which has been really
great. I do unconventional starters, which are usually people that you can get in, you know,
over 50% of leagues, you're able to pick them up and play and that's important. And then I really
kind of go into details to why
because sometimes you hear like this person's a sleeper or add this person but it's always good
to hear why because then also you can compare as to why someone else might be better on your team
so you know you have any names you want to drop on us oh man uh you know i think that for me i
think nick vanette has become a part of the conversation again and i wanted to get into
it's not just because he had a big week last week,
but also he actually caught the first pass from Russell Wilson that went for a touchdown in the preseason.
He was a sleeper moving forward.
But Will Disley, if you remember that guy, came out of nowhere and was getting a ton of targets,
a ton of playing time.
Then we had Ed Dixon.
But listen, the Seattle Seahawks want to use a tight end.
And Jimmy Graham had the most touchdowns out of any tight end in the league last season.
They want to use someone. So I think Nick Vanette could be very interesting now watch of course he has struggled a little bit with injuries so you want to keep your eye out there um but also
I listen and I know this isn't necessarily popular but Sonny Michelle is supposedly coming back this
week it looks like he's practicing whatnot but we've heard this about his knee before I think
if you're going to have a deep bench I think you need to stash Cordero Patterson. And it's very clear that they are going to use him as
a running back when Sonny Michel is out. And unfortunately, Sonny Michel has been out a lot.
So I think it's time to kind of embrace that that's an issue. It's been, it was an issue for
him in college as well. So that's someone else too. So it's not just people to necessarily start
for sure this week, but also people that you want to make sure you keep an eye on because you also need to fill in.
If Sonny Michel has a back, has a, you know, some sort of, you know, issue where things
kind of, you know, backslide here, you want to be able to be prepared because man, a lot
of us were not prepared for Gronkowski last week either.
So, you know, make sure that you have that depth.
So I'm going to give you just like a few names.
Think about it.
Not this week, but thinking about them rest of season
Give me a quick
10 second like word association
How are you feeling about the following players
Mark Ingram
Bad, and I told everyone
He was going to be a bust in the preseason
So he has not a great schedule
And Alvin Kamara is
An exceptional athlete
And running back And so Mark Ingram is game specific not a great schedule and Alvin Kamara is an exceptional athlete and running
back.
And so Mark Ingram is game specific and you know,
he's been suspended and his coach isn't a huge fan of him and there's no
reason for them to force the ball to him.
Sorry.
Rob Gronkowski.
Hurt,
very hurt.
And that's unfortunate.
Aaron Jones.
Everybody's wishlist.
It's happening. This is the week. This is the list. No, it's happening.
This is the week.
This is the week.
You know what? I think we're going to hear that a lot.
I feel like he's very Joe Mixon-esque from 2017.
So we're just going to keep saying this is the moment,
and he'll get 9 to 12 fantasy points.
Yeah.
I mean, the matchup's just so good, and he's very good.
I'm optimistic about him. We'll preview that. This week, the rest of season, I'm not the matchup's just so good, and he's very good. I'm optimistic about him.
We'll preview that.
This week, the rest of season, I'm not talking about this week.
This week, I'm going to say yes.
The rest of the season, he's 9 to 12 points per game, maybe.
All right, I'm optimistic that this week he has a huge game
and that it's just Aaron Jones' job.
But we'll see.
Josh Adams.
Fun.
I actually love Josh Adams.
I couldn't believe they cut them before the season started.
And then they brought it back to the practice squad and there's all this
other stuff.
Listen,
Josh Adams is a really good football player and should have been on the
team from the get go.
So I was a little confused,
but man,
that Philly backfield though is dubious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's another guy,
you know,
we've seen teams come out of their buy and sort of get things right and
feature a running back more than, than they had in the past. And I specifically think of green bye and sort of get things right and feature a running back more than they
had in the past. And I specifically think of Green Bay and I specifically think of maybe Detroit a
little bit and Dion Lewis last week. So maybe Adams gets the Adams is very under-owned. It's
another guy. And look, sitting here saying he's under-owned, if he has five carries this week,
wouldn't shock me. And then you're dropping him. But it's definitely a guy you want to speculate
on, on Josh Adams.
And
what TV show are you
jamming on right now? What's a TV
show you want to recommend to everybody?
Oh, man. If you need to binge,
I think Better Call Saul is
just fantastic. I can't recommend
one of the most popular TV shows.
That's not one of the most popular TV shows. That's not one of the most popular TV shows.
Better Call Saul?
No, not ratings-wise.
Really?
And a lot of people think that you have to have watched Breaking Bad.
I actually do not think that at all.
It's its own separate story.
No, definitely not at all.
Not at all.
You know what?
Right now, I'm watching football or trying to live my life.
I don't know.
Are people able to watch shows, too?
I watch shows.
Some shows.
Really? I haven't finished it yet. I have one episode left shows, too? I watch shows. Some shows. Really?
I haven't finished it yet. I have one episode left, but The Haunting of Hill House is amazing.
I recommend it very much if you like anything scary.
And Narcos Season 4 starts next Friday.
So watch the first three seasons in the next seven days.
You can do it, everybody. I believe in you.
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News and notes, Kerryon Johnson was limited at practice.
We still expect him to play.
I don't know how excited people are going to be to start him,
but we will preview Detroit at Chicago.
Darren Sproles aggravated his hamstring.
He's going to miss this week's game.
Both Miami offensive tackles are beat up.
Another reason to think about starting the Packers DST.
Oakland left tackle Colton Miller may not be able to play,
and they really shuffled their offensive line last week after Miller got hurt.
And it was,
it was awful.
Robbie Anderson,
his practice Detroit,
right guard,
TJ Lang has a neck injury.
Marlon Mack was limited in practice,
but that doesn't mean you should drop him for the Redskins DST.
No,
you should absolutely do that.
Des Bryant wants to play.
How do you feel about Des Bryant?
Neutral. Well, no, about Des Bryant? Neutral.
Well, no, actually, I don't feel neutral.
I want any wide receiver who is catching passes from Drew Brees.
Okay?
If he's someone you can add right now, why not?
You know, there's always upside when Drew Brees is your quarterback.
So I'll say that.
Am I exceedingly overwhelmed this week with him coming in for the first time?
No, but it's also a good matchup against Cincinnati,
so it's not a bad time to play him if he does play.
I think that they'd probably do what they did with Amari Cooper in Dallas,
make sure he gets a touchdown, but really it was only three catches.
So I think that's kind of what I would see from him.
So, yeah, I mean, you could take much worse flyers
than Des Bryant catching
balls from Chavis.
Taewon Taylor and Tajay Sharp both
mispracticed for the Titans as they get ready for the
Patriots. Chris Thompson's out.
Sammy Watkins mispracticed at this point.
I mean, are you assuming Sammy
Watkins is going to miss this game against Arizona?
Yeah, I am.
And, you know what, he's been healthy as of
late, so this has actually been a long time for him,
not having to miss a game.
But yeah, I think he will, and he should.
Kansas City pass rusher Justin Houston is going to play this week.
Cleveland cornerback Denzel Ward practiced.
He's trending in the right direction.
And Rex Burkhead, he practiced.
He could return within three weeks.
You could just stay away.
That would be just fine.
All right, let's do the Stardometer.
So what we do on the Stardometer is we look at some of the games
that we preview late in the show,
just in case people don't have time to listen to the entire episode.
And you're going to go on a scale of 0 to 10.
0 is absolute sit.
No way I'm starting this guy.
10 is, yeah, he's a must start.
He's Todd Gurley.
Well, he's not Todd Gurley.
He's Joe Mixon.
Okay.
You tell me, start or sit.
Let's start with Matt Breida against the Giants.
Zero to 10 on the start-o-meter.
Six.
Six.
Okay.
So he's like an okay.
He's like a flex?
Yeah.
Okay.
How about Chris Carson?
Not Chris Carson. Mike Davis, pardon me, because we're at this point still not about Chris Carson? Not Chris Carson.
Mike Davis, pardon me, because we're at this point still not expecting Chris Carson to play.
Mike Davis at the Rams?
Ten.
Oh, really?
Well, he kicked it into gear last time he played against the Rams as well.
So even if Chris Carson does play, I still think he'll lead the backfield.
Doug Baldwin at the Rams?
Six. All right. Nick he'll lead the backfield. Doug Baldwin at the Rams. Six.
All right, Nick Mullins against the Giants.
Mullins mania.
I'm going to go with four, but a strong four.
In a two-quarterback league, he's like an eight or nine.
Yeah, oh yeah.
Eli Manning. Eli Manning. If Mullins is a four, where's Eli? A two. four in a two quarterback league he's like an eight or nine yeah oh yeah uh eli manning
eli manning if mullins is a four where's a two negative a negative two against the niners
just no i i think he's fine i would rather have mullins than man you would huh oh yeah i'm sorry
if you're if your coaching staff has to come out and say you're still the quarterback even though
you've won them two super bowlsls and it's Week 10,
and you're going up against the 49ers, there's a problem.
It's true.
The 49ers, seven of nine quarterbacks to face the Niners,
have scored 20 or more fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues.
That would make Eli, you know, like in the 15-ish range.
Let me see where the guys have him.
17, 16, 18.
Makes sense. He's just like, if you're in a two-quarterback league, again see where the guys have them. 17, 16, 18. Makes sense.
If you're in a two-quarterback league,
again, that's a different conversation, but to me
I just think, yeah, I
think 20 points would be his
max. Dave,
Jamie, and Heath are less confident
in Nick Mullins than you are. They have
him behind Eli Manning.
Here's one that I struggle with. Marquise
Goodwin, 0-10 on the
start-o-meter. I do struggle
with this one, too. I'm going to go with a 3 or
4. Yeah, I mean,
I've been seeing the Giants are giving up some big plays.
Norris Jenkins isn't playing that well.
That's what Goodwin does.
A couple weeks ago when he had one catch for 55
yards and a touchdown, but last week he had one catch
for 11 yards against the Raiders.
Well, and the thing is that Nick Malone was successful because for 11 yards against the Raiders. The thing is that Nick Mullins was
successful because he was actually
putting the ball everywhere. That's true.
I think that he doesn't want to have
a favorite target. Otherwise,
because he's so green, that would be really bad
actually. My problem
is I just don't know who
is Nick Mullins' favorite target.
Who is Nick Mullins? These are the questions I have.
I don't know.
We're Mullins it favorite target? Who is Nick Mullins? These are the questions I have. I don't know. We're going to Mullins it over.
Boom!
Yeah, it's bad.
I probably already used that one, too.
How about Amari Cooper at Philadelphia?
Oh, I think he's like a 7 or 8.
Okay.
And Sterling Shepard against the Niners?
6 or 7.
All right, so here's the stat of the game for Giants-Niners,
which is the last game we'll preview because, you know,
they have three wins combined.
Eight out of ten wide receivers with seven or more targets against San Francisco
have scored double-digit fantasy points in non-PPR.
So seven or more targets.
You have an 80% chance of scoring double-digits in non-PPR,
and Shepard gets about seven or eight targets every game.
He's had seven or eight in six of eight games.
So I'm optimistic for him.
This might be the last time I'm optimistic about him.
Oh, no, Tampa Bay the following week.
So he actually might be a good guy for Beat the Waiver Wire.
Here we go.
Let's go to Beat the Waiver Wire for Fantasy Week 12.
What are we in, 11 now or 10?
This is 10.
10. So next is 11. Yeah. So yeah um so six teams are on a buy but luckily like a lot of them suck so right buffalo cleveland
the patriots the jets the niners and the dolphins are on a buy not Not a ton of fantasy-relevant players. So, you know, certainly you could just,
I didn't expect you to go do this research as a guest of the podcast, but you can certainly
chime in, piggyback off anything I put in the notes. I got a bunch of quarterbacks,
and to the point where I don't know that you have to stash a quarterback for next week,
because you'll be able to get one of these guys off waivers. But just in case somebody, look, I think it's reasonable to drop Matthew Stafford. He had a
terrible game last week. He usually gets you like low end number one, high end number two production,
but he's got Carolina next week and they're not very good against the pass and he's 85%
owned. So he's a bit of a pipe dream. But do you like any of these guys who are definitely
available to pick up? Mariota at the Colts, Flacco against the Bengals, Prescott at Atlanta, Bortles against Pittsburgh,
Eli Manning against Tampa Bay. My favorites are Marcus Mariota and Blake Bortles from,
and Prescott, actually, I'm sorry, for next week. Those would probably be the two that I would like
the most. Joe Flacco, even, I mean, he's just wildly inconsistent.
Actually, he's almost not even about matchups.
Like when he has a good matchup, he's very mediocre.
And then in bad matchups, he can be okay.
But he just doesn't have a lot of upside there.
I'm with you on Matthew Stafford.
I'm actually worried about his safety after seeing him get mauled last week.
I'm very concerned.
I'm very worried. And then this seeing him get mauled last week. I'm very concerned. I'm very worried.
And then this week he gets to face Chicago.
I mean, what a terrible back-to-back situation for him.
It's just tough to be in the NFC North.
Just a lot of good defenses, a lot of tackling.
You just get your rear end kicked.
Dak Prescott, though, I like him with the Samari Cooper.
By the way, you guys also will talk about this in the preview.
Looks like Michael Gallup's a wide receiver too there.
It's a, it's a very intriguing situation that's going on there in Dallas in
terms of the passing game. Um, uh, so keep your eyes peeled there,
but I think that's working for him. And, uh, you know,
Blake Bortles is always a 35 point or two point game and you don't know.
And that's the problem. But if you need to actually roll your dice,
it might be, um be Blake Bortles,
even though we watched Pittsburgh swarm.
Yeah.
Their defense is getting better for sure.
Yeah.
So that's why he wasn't the one that I liked better.
So it'd be Dak and Mariota for me.
She just hates Eli Manning.
She just can't do it with Eli Manning.
He's got Tampa Bay next week.
I know.
I just,
he has so many 11 or 14 point games in his life.
In his life.
You know,
just,
and he is,
and here's what's so crazy.
He has so many great weapons on this team.
The fact that you have that many terrible fantasy performances just speaks volumes.
I,
I don't know.
He's actually thrown for 281 or more yards in four straight games,
316 or more yards in three of those four games.
This is Eli Manning.
But he just doesn't throw touchdowns. So I get it.
And look, the bottom line is there are, I would say,
about five options on waivers next week in a lot of leagues
that are going to be at least worth using.
And you may not even have to go there
because there aren't a lot of good quarterbacks on by next week.
So you don't have to beat the waiver wire at quarterback.
If you want to beat the waiver wire at DST, the Ravens DST is 75% owned.
They have the Bengals.
The Cardinals DST is 21% owned.
They have the Raiders.
And another team that's on by, because Baltimore's on by, the Texans DST is 73% owned.
I'd pick them up.
They have the Redskins next week.
I think they could destroy the Redskins, basically back up offensive line.
They're 73% own.
They could be really good for you next week.
Yeah, and I would also say that I like Arizona's schedule rest of season.
I like what's going on with them.
And also, if you can beat the waiver wire for 12,
New England has a very strong schedule rest of season as a defense,
so make sure to check them out.
Basically, anyone in the AFC East, which is terrible,
who has to face the Bills.
Same with the Jets, though, by the way,
facing the Bills in both Week 10 and 14, and then Tennessee in 13.
All right, so some other guys that aren't necessarily matchup specific,
but we like Christian Kirk.
I wouldn't be surprised if Willie Sneed
is the most consistent Ravens wide receiver.
I have no interest in him in standard scoring,
but in PPR, five or six catches for around 60 yards
is realistic, so he could be a bi-week replacement.
Doug Martin's at Arizona next week,
and he's 78% owned.
I know it's not attractive,
but it's the best matchup in fantasy.
Ido Smith is 69% owned.
Royce Freeman is 67% owned.
Wendell Smallwood, Josh Adams, both available.
Royce Freeman, Elijah McGuire.
There are some guys to pick up.
You see anybody there that, yeah, get them now.
Yeah, I don't know why Christian Kirk or Willie Sneed are available
in any of your leagues if you play in PPR formats.
They're both target monsters.
They should have been picked up weeks ago.
So if they're still out there, those are must-haves above any of these running backs.
Royce Freeman right now is probably the greatest handcuff you could have right now to Philip Lindsay.
Philip Lindsay is incredible, and I don't think we talk enough about it.
He's been great all year, incredibly consistent.
And by the way, Royce Freeman did nothing wrong philip lindsey just killed it
so i think it's important to say that it's not like royce freeman's talent fell off a cliff
so if he gets a chance i think he does kill it for the the broncos um but you know philip lindsey's
just been out of control my only problem with philadelphia is just i don't know who it's going
to be right right yeah we talked about i mean i I think Adams and Smallwood are both worth stashing.
Hopefully one emerges.
It's probably not Corey Clement.
But we'll get to that game in a bit.
Here we go.
Washington is at Tampa Bay.
Your stat of the game.
At least one wide receiver has caught a touchdown against Tampa Bay in every game this season.
So who's that Washington wide receiver going to be?
Or will the streak end here in week 11 or week 10?
I keep getting that mixed up.
Yeah.
We 10,
but you know what?
I don't even know if Alex Smith knows what day it is because he's just
worried about,
do we have wide receivers?
Uh,
Paul Richardson went to IR this,
uh,
week,
which is just a detriment there.
I think you have to look at Maurice Harris here.
Uh, someone who's available in a ton of leagues might be able to pick them up immediately. Last week, I is just a detriment there. I think you have to look at Maurice Harris here,
someone who's available in a ton of leagues,
might be able to pick him up immediately.
Last week, he got 12 targets, 10 catches for 124 yards.
I think he is the guy, has not scored a touchdown so far this year,
but this is his moment.
Could you see yourself starting Maurice Harris over anybody that's like usually a must start that has a tough matchup, maybe like a T.Y. Hilton?
No, I wouldn't start him over T.Y. Hilton.
T.Y. Hilton is still going to get volume, so that's a little tough for me.
But I actually had a lot of people on bye this week.
I got a lot of Emmanuel Sanders in my life, a lot of Demarius Thomas in my life.
It's ironic, even though he's not on the team anymore, he has the same bye week.
Lucky for us, right?
Instead of the Golden Tate and Amari Cooper thing
where they had two bye weeks, right?
But, you know, the Vikings,
a lot of people have a lot of people on bye this week.
A lot of good teams are on bye in week 10,
even though there are only four teams.
So I think that he might be someone
that you put in the flex for a flyer.
I do think this is a good matchup.
Someone's got to come forward,
and I think it's Maurice Harris.
Would you start Maurice Harris or carry on Johnson?
Ooh.
I think that depends on what happens at practice today,
but I think I might start Maurice Harris.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right, so Harris.
Because I'm just worried about him.
I even think Doxon could score the touchdown.
Like, Harris maybe gets more catches in yards, but Doxon.
He's just a struggling little child out there, right?
Like, sometimes I'm like, what's happening?
Look, I mean, the Redskins did not exactly take advantage
of the Atlanta matchup next week, last week,
so I don't think we're too excited about them
taking advantage of the Tampa Bay matchup.
So Alex Smith is a sit, right?
Alex Smith is a sit.
Yeah, I mean, the poor guy doesn't have anyone to play with,
especially without Chris Thompson there.
He doesn't even have that.
I think Capri Bibbs is an interesting one here.
8% owned.
Not a ton of work, but he's scored
in two of the last three games.
Actually, the most interesting player
is Peterson.
Lineman or Hurt, not just the guards
but the tackles.
If he gets his carries, he's always good.
He's got five games with 17 or more carries
and 96 or more rushing yards in them. He's got five games with 17 or more carries and 96 or more rushing yards in them.
He's got three games with 11 or fewer carries,
and he combined 43 rushing yards in those games.
But things have changed.
The landscape's different for him now.
This is actually not that bad of a run defense, especially with Gerald McCoy.
Start or sit Adrian Peterson?
Probably a start.
Again, there's no one else here, people.
I mean, we're really – I feel bad for alex smith because
talk about the opposite of kansas city where he had so many weapons he had a career year
and you look at what patrick mahomes is doing don't get me wrong obviously patrick mahomes
is special but still patrick mahomes walked into the best weapons in the entire national football
league in terms of wide receiver tight end and running back and then alex smith goes to
washington they're still somehow winning games which is crazy even though they didn't win last week but they're still head of
the division uh but he has no weapons zero so yeah I mean I think Adrian Peterson's the most
interesting person here Maurice Harris is most interesting to me and then Vernon Davis if Jordan
Reid does not go but if Jordan Reid does go he's just been super disappointing if Jordan Reid goes
I'm not starting either one which is exactly And it's crazy because it's the Buccaneers.
It's the matchup you've been waiting for.
Yeah.
And I just don't trust them.
And, yeah, as far as Peterson goes, I guess I can throw out some comparisons.
But Peterson or stay in this game, Deshaun Jackson?
Probably Jackson.
Okay.
In a PPR league and a non-PPR, Ir go peter's on all right let's go over to
um let's go over to the uh the buccaneers fitzpatrick is top 10 for dave jamie and heath
uh ninth for jamie and heath seventh for dave a couple quarterback a few quarterbacks with uh
with tough matchups this week. Andrew Luck,
maybe Tom Brady,
Drew Brees.
Would you start Fitzpatrick over those guys?
No.
No, you wouldn't.
So you would not have him as a top 10 guy then, I assume.
No, I don't think so.
Well, I have him right there,
but not high enough to where I'd be like,
yeah, I'd start him with drew breeze ever you know
i i know drew breeze had that bad game against baltimore and people were freaking out but
i feel fine about him listen i and you know what fitzpatrick did well last week and he's done well
in other games and and you think like this has to be the guy but you also know that he always has
that three interception game or like you know epic collapse inside of him um and i'm just worried
that it could be this week.
I just don't like to start at the quarterback position too many people
over the studs that I genuinely believe in.
Okay.
Do you have any faith in Peyton Barber?
No, I mean, not a ton of faith.
I think that, you know, this particular matchup is okay.
But my problem is that the Tampa Bay offense Bay defense gives up a ton of points.
I'm having a hard time because the Tampa Bay defense gives up a ton of points,
but Washington doesn't have any players.
So I'm wondering, do they have to throw all the time or do they not?
Because they usually do, but do they this week?
Is this game going to end 10-13?
That's a possibility with this game because nobody can play.
It's just bizarre.
I don't think the Redskins' pass defense is very good. possibility with this game because nobody can play. It's just bizarre.
I don't think the Redskins past defense is very good.
I mean,
their run defense is really good,
but their past defense,
I think it kind of got exposed last week.
So I do think Fitzpatrick will have success.
I mean,
he's going to throw some picks,
which is why I dropped Marlon Mack for the Redskins DST,
but he's gonna,
he's,
he's going to throw some touchdowns too.
So Mike Evans is a must start.
And then Deshaun Jackson and Adam Humphreys,
I think people are going to get away from Goblin at this point.
But Jackson, he's not getting a ton of targets really, you know,
but he's producing.
But last week he had four targets, he had two catches.
Humphreys has been really good, 76 or more yards in three of his last four games,
eight or more targets in three straight games.
Where are they for you, Jackson and Humphreys?
Yeah, if you play in PPR formats and Humphreys is out there,
you should go and get him immediately.
He is out there.
He's 17% owned.
Yeah, he's out there almost all the time.
So depending on the depth of your bench,
I think you at least need to get him on your bench
because he could start killing you eventually.
Because they are, I mean, last week,
catching all eight of his targets for 82 yards and two touchdowns was a big wake-up call
godwin to me in week three i kind of um tried to get rid of him where i could when he had that
terrible game remember where he like um i think he fumbled he also like caused an interception
he was just a disaster zone or whatever it was yeah yeah and that's actually when um you know
winston came in because it looked like fitzmagic actually when um you know winston came in because
it looked like fitz magic had just like you know fallen off the face of the planet obviously since
fitzpatrick's come back he's been fine so um it was a chris godwin week that was the problem to
be entirely frank when you go look at that tape and i just don't think he's ever i think the coaches
did that too they looked at the tape and they said we got a real problem here and we have so
many other good targets why do we continue going after this guy? So I think since then it's been a little rough sailing for him if you check it out.
So, oh, yeah, no, I mean, I think you move away from him.
I think it's I think it's totally fair to drop Godwin for Humphreys at this point.
And maybe that comes back to bite you.
But Humphreys playing very well.
I would have I have a tough call starting Humphreys or LeSean McCoy.
I start.
You would.
I think McCoy is going to score this week.
I made that call yesterday.
I think he's going to have a good game.
Humphreys is the kind of guy who, like, he turns into a pumpkin.
You realize he's Adam Humphreys, but right now he's hot.
And 17% on, that's too low.
All right, so that's basically it.
O.J. Howard, are you ready for this?
O.J. Howard's a must-start, obviously.
He's played, he's had one game where he wasn't healthy.
He basically didn't have a target in the game, I don't think.
But in all of his healthy games, O.J. Howard has had 53 or more yards.
The Redskins have not allowed 50 yards to a tight end yet.
So does he get to 50 yards?
Does O.J. Howard get to 50 yards?
Yes.
He's definitely going to catch a touchdown.
That's not even a question. But he gets to 50?? Does O.J. Howard get to 50 yards? Yes. He's definitely going to catch a touchdown. That's not even a question.
Yeah, I think he does.
O.J. Howard has definitely proven to be the guy.
And even though Cameron Braden is making a ton of money
and everyone thought he's got to be involved,
they have decided, nope, we're going all in on O.J. Howard,
and I'm into it.
All right, Redskins DST, 10th for Jamie, 7th for Heath, 15th for Dave.
Not one I'm super excited about, but it's a tough week for DSTs on wai for Jamie, 7th for Heath, 15th for Dave. Not one I'm super excited about,
but it's a tough week for DSTs on waivers, I think,
especially if you missed out on the Jets or the Packers.
So I did pick up the DST, the Redskins.
Yeah, again, I like Jets rest of season as well at the DST.
So if you have them,
I would try to figure out a way to target them again at some point.
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Hmm?
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Our second game today is Detroit at Chicago.
Here is your stat of the game.
The Detroit Lions allow the fourth highest yards per attempt,
or the fourth most yards per attempt in the NFL to quarterbacks.
But they see by far the fewest pass attempts per game.
And they're 17th in fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks.
So a couple weeks ago, I think I said that the Lions' pass defense is ready to be exposed.
And then Russell Wilson went in there and lit them up.
But their run defense is just so bad that nobody ever throws on them.
So how do you feel about Trubisky this week?
I like Trubisky for a bounce back.
You know, you can sit there and say, you know, oh, this yardage thing, whatever.
But there are only two quarterbacks all season that haven't thrown multiple touchdowns.
And prior to last week when Chicago was facing the Bills, which, by the way, no quarterbacks play well against the Bills because they don't have to.
So stop starting quarterbacks against the Bills.
They're just not going to do anything because they don't have to. So stop starting quarterbacks against the Bills. They're just not going to do anything because they don't need to. It's just all
about safety in that game, getting through with the
win, and that's how it goes. But ironically,
the only two quarterbacks that didn't throw multiple
touchdowns were Tom Brady and Kirk Cousins,
which is funny. Sam Darnold,
Jimmy Garoppolo, Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers,
Brock Osweiler, and
Russell Wilson all threw for multiple touchdowns.
You're talking about against the Lions.
Against the Lions.
Yeah.
Right.
And he gets the rushing yards.
He's one of the best rushing quarterbacks.
So you start Trubisky over Fitzpatrick, I assume?
I would, yes.
Would you start him over Breeze?
Or would that just go against everything that Brandon Marion leaves stands for?
To me, I have a tough time sitting Breeze.
Okay.
Am I just alone on this?
I feel like Breeze has had such a great season this year.
I have a tough time being like, yeah, you know what?
This is the one.
I think the theory is that since Mark Ingram came back,
they've been more of a running team.
He doesn't throw quite as much, and he's on the road.
And maybe they get ahead.
But he's at Cincinnati.
They don't have a great defense.
So why would you sit him?
I don't get it.
Well, it's not necessarily an outright sit,
but the theory is that they're going to run the ball all over Cincinnati, I think.
But, you know, he's road breeze.
Throughout his career, he's been so much better at home than on the road.
I don't know.
The best matchups are at the wide receiver and quarterback position against Cincinnati,
so I don't know if they're going to run the whole time.
All right.
Carry on Johnson.
I mean, he's a sit, right?
I mean, if you can.
A lot of us are in weird situations at the running back position,
and so I understand if you can't,
but certainly you don't want to depend on him for multiple fantasy points this week.
I would definitely start with Sean McCoy over Johnson, would you?
I think I might have to. Again, this injury
with Kerryon Johnson, you're going to have to keep your eye out
for sure on Sunday morning. I think anything could
happen. He's banged up. TJ Lang is banged
up. The Bears allow the fewest fantasy points to
running backs. 3.4 yards per
carry to running backs.
So I think it's easy to get away from Kerryon Johnson
who's still unfortunately in a timeshare
and Theo Riddick's healthy, so that takes
away some of his receiving ability.
That's the biggest problem.
Which Detroit-wide receiver do you prefer if you had to choose between Galladay and Jones?
I would pick Jones.
Do you want to start these guys?
I mean, I don't want to, but in some of them I have to.
I think I found the Golden Tate trade very bizarre.
They need him.
I don't understand what that thought process was.
But, hey, I just think that Jones just has kind of a nose for the end zone when needed.
And he's scored two touchdowns over the last three weeks,
but both of them are in the same week against Seattle.
I think he does it again in Chicago.
For what it's worth, Dave, Jamie, and Heath,
they all have Marvin Jones as a start.
They have Gallaudet as kind of like, well, Heath has him pretty high.
Heath has him in the top 20, 17th.
They have Gallaudet like 25, 27, 17, so kind of a flex.
Yeah.
This is not, you know, the Bears are great against the run,
but they've had –
okay, basically every fantasy-relevant wide receiver they've played has done well,
except for Fitzgerald and Mike Evans.
But the Packers guys, Tyler Lockett and Christian Kirk did well without Fitzgerald.
Deshaun Jackson was great.
Albert Wilson had a huge game.
Josh Gordon had 100 yards. Julian Edelman scored a touchdown, so you can beat them in the air. That's great. Albert Wilson had a huge game. Josh Gordon had 100 yards. Julian Edelman
scored a touchdown, so you can beat them
in the air.
Stafford, start or sit?
I'm going to try to sit him
if I can. Again, to me, it's about the
pass rushers for Chicago.
They just
let Stafford get killed last week.
The only thing I will say is that because
he got killed last week, perhaps this entire week was dedicated to making sure that doesn't happen again. And it
may be a little bit better. That's what I'm hoping. But man, what I saw last week was traumatizing.
I mean, I thought to myself, man, Stafford, we don't not give him the credit for how tough he
is. Are you related to Matthew Stafford? You were very shaken up by his getting his butt kicked.
Well, I'm distraught because I want Kerryon Johnson to be good.
I want Marvin Jones to be good.
But, you know, he has to be upright to complete these passes and to even hand off the ball.
It's just he affects everyone on this team.
And I think what I don't like when I see that is that everyone gets taken down with that.
Everybody.
So let's let's hope for the best.
I'm just going to let you know that all three of Dave, Jamie, and Heath
have both Eli Manning and Alex Smith ahead of Matthew Stafford.
How do you feel about that?
I think they're in the same category, but as you know,
Eli is at the end for me.
All right, to the Bears, we talked about Trubisky.
Jordan Howard, a little bit lower than I expected.
He's not even a top 15 running back. And okay. This is like arguably the best matchup, you know,
technically the Cardinals are, but I don't think any team allows more yards per carry
than the bears starter said, Howard starter said to Rico. I start both of them.
Tariq Cohen had one bad game and everyone's out. It's amazing. I know at Buffalo,
again, where it doesn't matter. Um, it didn't happen for him. Okay. Again, it was Buffalo.
That wasn't what the game plan was. The game plan the whole time was going to be Jordan Howard.
I think Jordan Howard continues to get, you know, 14 plus carries per game. I think he does a lot
with it. As you said, yards per carry for Detroit Lions is a real issue.
So yeah, I actually like both of them. I think there's a quick pass to Tariq Cohen, though,
for a touchdown. Okay. I can see getting away from Cohen and non-PPR for sure. And he only has,
I think, two catches in his last two games. So that's a little concerning, but maybe a get-right game here for the Bears. Are you starting any Bears wide receivers?
Allen Robinson will play.
I think it's a little hard.
I'm trying to stay away from all of them.
And again, it's one of those kind of skewed stats where obviously the Detroit Lions give up
some of the fewest fantasy points per game
to opposing wide receivers,
but part of it's because people just run on them.
So again, it's the same kind of thing.
So no, and the problem with Allen Robinson
is that he's done so little.
It's hard for me to even think about that. Again, it's the same kind of thing. So, no. And the problem with Allen Robinson is that he's done so little. Yeah.
It's hard for me to even think about that.
If you look at it, he's what, had like 285 yards all season, right?
And so you're thinking to yourself, well, man, didn't Mitchell Strabisky have three games in a row with over 300 yards per game?
So, you know, you look at that and you go, well, what has he been doing?
Now, he has been hurt, obviously,
but even before he was hurt,
he wasn't involved enough for me to feel great about it.
So I'm glad that he's back.
I'm excited to see what happens.
But, you know, if you're not playing in PPR formats,
he's kind of just, you know, meh,
only two games with touchdowns,
and it was one in each.
And only one game with more than seven targets.
So, yeah, the involvement hasn't really been there.
Anthony Miller is an interesting flyer.
He's 23% owned.
Yeah.
Again, Detroit allows the 12th fewest fantasy points to wide receivers,
but they just don't get thrown on that much.
And they have allowed seven touchdowns to wide receivers in their last four
games.
I don't imagine that Robinson or Miller will be all that popular this week.
Trey Burton is a top 10 tight end because he's a tight end and he scores
touchdowns.
He's about eighth to 10th in the rankings and he has fewer than 30 yards in
three of his last four games,
but you could start OJ Howard over him,
you know,
obviously,
but if you have Trey Burton,
you're,
you're probably starting him.
Would you start a Colts tight end over Burton?
If I'm in a PPR format, I don't know how you set Jack Doyle.
That guy is like monster targets.
Fair enough.
And the DST, the Bears are like number one or two at DST.
They should be.
Miami at Green Bay, stat of the game number one.
Ten running backs have had 12 or more touches against the Packers,
and every single one of them has scored at least eight fantasy points in non-PPR.
So 12 or more touches against Green Bay.
I will say that Frank Gore will not join this group.
He will get fewer than eight fantasy points.
But Kenyon Drake is pretty interesting.
I hope he gets 12 or more touches.
Do you think Kenyon Drake has a good game here?
How would you compare him to, let's say, Tariq Cohen?
Yeah, you know, I like Kenyon Drake a little better than Tariq Cohen this week
because I like this matchup a little bit better for him
because especially since Brock Osweiler has taken over,
he's getting a lot more touches right because people are kind of worried
in the miami coaching staff because they have brock osweiler out there uh but you know still
i i think that he will get over 14 touches because i think he will get involved with the passing game
here um so i like yeah i like him this week and to me i just think he's it depends on what you
need too because if you were here's the other thing too,
after Thursday Night Football, you might be playing from behind.
Big time, right?
And then to me, Tariq Cohen might have a little more upside
than Kenyon Drake.
But if you need solid points to just get through,
to me, it's Kenyon Drake.
Yeah, I mean, I think the goal with Drake is like,
okay, they're going to be losing this game.
He's their pass catching back.
Let's get him on the field more and catching some passes, and
hopefully he's really good in PPR.
Want to hear something crazy? Yeah, yeah.
Kenyon Drake is the number one scoring
fantasy option on the Dolphins in general.
Out of everybody. Like even quarterbacks?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, wow. Wow.
And by the way, for all of us
that have Kenyon Drake, we know he's a disappointment.
So that is pretty unbelievable. Kicker, defense, you name that have Kenyon Drake, we know he's a disappointment. So that is pretty unbelievable.
Kicker, defense, you name it, Kenyon Drake is number one.
Are there any Dolphins wide receivers you want to start?
Amendola maybe being...
Heath really likes Amendola.
Heath has him top 20.
Yeah, I like Amendola this week, especially in PPR formats.
I mean, the guys had five or more catches in each of the last four games,
so that's good,
but only one touchdown on the season.
So a non-PPR, he's a little dicey.
Yeah, he does have a passing touchdown,
but only one receiving touchdown for Amendola.
Would you start Amendola or Allen Robinson?
Ooh, those are tough decisions.
Probably Amendola in PPR.
Amendola or Adam Humphreys?
In PPR, Humphreys for sure.
Yeah, I'd probably do Humphreys in general.
I think there's more scoring for Tampa Bay.
Okay.
Aaron Rodgers, number one for Jamie and Heath,
number three for Dave.
Start him.
And Aaron Jones, baby.
Here we go.
Aaron Jones or Kenyon Drake?
I would do Aaron Jones for sure for sure you guys this should be the
game for aaron jones if aaron jones does not score over 20 fantasy points in this particular matchup
he will never score over 20 fantasy points 20 so i i mean don't you think i mean this is it this is
the moment for aaron jones now i don't know if he's going to be like this rest of season but he
has yet to score over 20 fantasy points even in full
point ppr leagues okay all season long if he does not do it now we got real problems people real
problem 20 is a lot though i don't need 20 for him i need 15 for him ppr you do well i don't i mean
he's only going to catch two passes i would assume if you know that's what he's had each of the last
two weeks but i'm saying 100 yards and a touchdown is very realistic for him.
Yeah, but he's only had two games with 15 or more fantasy points.
This has got to be the one.
This has got to be the big one.
He's getting going.
It's all about the future.
Getting going in week 10?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
Double digits.
You should have been gone.
You know what I'm saying?
I know, I know.
But I think patience is going to pay off.
I think we're going to sit Jamal Williams, right?
Yeah, no.
We've been sitting him for a month.
Start Devontae Adams, and then Marquez Valdez-Scantling, 94% owned.
Here's your other stat of the game here.
The Miami Dolphins allow the second most pass plays of 40 or more yards.
Valdez-Scantling has had a catch of 38 or more yards in four of his last five games
oh i like that stat i like that stat too i like marquez valdez scantling uh and i think that if
you've looked over his game log really starting at week five he exploded and uh he has been the
number one or number two wide receiver since week four in terms of snaps played as well. So he's on the field.
There are no reasons for you to avoid,
uh,
MVS rest of the season.
Uh,
by the way,
uh,
Aaron Jones,
in case I didn't mention it and you don't know is Jamie's start of the
week.
So we're very optimistic for Aaron Jones.
You should be.
He's playing Miami.
That's ridiculous.
All running backs get against Miami.
Get played.
Would you start Valdez, Scantling, or Mike Davis if Chris Carson's out?
I think Mike Davis is the steadier one here,
but you should be starting both those guys.
I have a difficult time believing that they can't make it.
Valdez, Scantling, or I have to choose between Valdez, Scantling,
and Golden Tate.
I got to go with Tate there.
So actually it's going to come down to –
I'd do MBS.
I'd go with Tate. I mean, MBS still has there. So actually it's going to come down to – I do MBS. I go with Tate.
I mean, MBS still has like three catches in each of his last three games.
Yeah, but they all go for millionaires.
My thing is I don't know what Golden Tate's role is.
We'll get to that game, but I'm a little concerned.
I don't know who he's going to be.
Yeah, so it's going to come down to MBS or LaShawn –
no, or Aaron Jones.
It's going to come down to MBS or Aaron Jones in PPR.
I think I'm benching MBS, but that's because I'm kind to MVS or Aaron Jones in PPR.
I think I'm benching MVS, but that's because I'm kind of loaded there.
We like him a lot.
Jimmy Graham is a must-start guy, and the Packers DST is top six for Jamie and he's 13th for Dave.
They do suck, but the Dolphins are ripe for the pick in here.
Seattle's at Los Angeles.
We could probably do this game pretty quickly.
Here's your stat of the game for Seattle, Los Angeles.
Brandon, did you know it's illegal to drive more than 2,000 sheep
down Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles?
That's too bad.
I had 2,002 I wanted to bring.
Leave a couple home.
First meeting here, the Rams won 33-31.
This was a great fantasy game.
Brandon Cooks got hurt early in the game.
And Jared Goff ended up with only 15 fantasy game. Brandon Cooks got hurt early in the game.
And Jared Goff ended up with only 15 fantasy points.
Do you like Goff this week?
Sort of.
I mean, I like Goff as much as I like him in other weeks,
but he's not special to me this week, no.
You like Wilson this week?
Yeah, I always like Wilson end of season.
So you like Wilson better than Goff?
I do, just a hint.
Just a hint, though. But Jared Goff has been killing it, you guys, this season. So you like Wilson better than Goff? I do, just a hint. Okay. Just a hint, though.
But Jared Goff has been killing it, you guys, this season.
And I think that people haven't really been paying as much attention.
But the thing is about Jared Goff and Sean McVay is that they're very game plan specific.
So I'm a little worried about what they're going to do here.
But at the same time, I mean, the best matchup really is for the wide receivers. So I guess it's probably going to be a Jared Goff game.
So they're very even to me, I should say.
Okay.
Seattle allows the second fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Goff, 15 points.
Stafford, 20 points.
Rivers, 21 points.
Trubisky, 18.
They really haven't faced a lot of great quarterbacks.
Gurley, a start.
And you can't get away from all three Rams wide receivers.
Although Robert Woods, 70 or more yards in eight straight games,
but five straight games without a touchdown.
So he seems to be more PPR specific.
So let's see.
Yeah.
Mike Davis.
I want to stress, too.
Start all three, and if you have two, you start both of them.
Sure.
Just FYI.
Yeah.
Because people ask me that all the time.
Mike Davis is going to be like a stud,
right?
If Carson's out.
Yeah.
And again,
if you look back at week five,
he was a stud that he was the one who scored the touchdown when they
played the Rams last time,
even when Chris Carson wasn't and getting over a hundred rushing yards.
So yeah,
I don't,
I don't see any reason,
even if Chris Carson is playing that you wouldn't play Mike Davis to be
entirely frank, because again, Chris Carson played last week and then he spent the second half with his leg wrapped. So, yeah, I don't see any reason, even if Chris Carson is playing, that you wouldn't play Mike Davis, to be entirely frank.
Because, again, Chris Carson played last week,
and then he spent the second half with his leg wrapped.
So I just think, as far as I'm concerned,
Mike Davis is going to be involved regardless.
It's just whether or not you want to take a dart throw on Rashad Penny, really,
or Chris Carson.
Penny is 18% owned.
In one game without Chris Carson earlier this year,
Mike Davis had 21
carries, 101 yards, and two touchdowns
at Arizona and four catches.
All right, which Seattle
wide receiver do you like best?
That's
so hard. I'm a Tyler Lockett
girl. In terms of consistency,
nose for
the end zone. If you play
in non-PPR formats,
he's someone who has had a touchdown in all but two games all season.
Unfortunately, one of those games was last week against the Chargers.
But still, the rest of the time, he's been pretty, pretty, pretty consistent with about three catches, probably average-ish 50-ish yards and a touchdown.
That's what you can expect from him, and I like that.
I want Doug Baldwin to be healthier and involved and all of the wonderful,
beautiful things.
And he,
it looks like that's happening.
Caught all four of his passes last week for 77 yards,
but I'm a little concerned.
And David Moore,
they love there.
And even though he did not have a good game last week,
which was unfortunate,
even with the seven targets,
only two catches for 16 yards.
That's why they let go of Brandon Marshall.
Cause they loved what they saw from David Moore.
Everyone talks about DJ Moore,
but I think David Moore might have more fantasy points rest of season.
Do you think any of these Seahawks wide receivers are must starts?
I wouldn't go with must start, but I think it's you're hard pressed to find someone who's more consistent than Tyler Lockett in the National Football League.
Our guys really like Tyler Lockett.
Like he's top 24, except Heath is a little lower on him.
But Dave and Jamie very high on Tyler Lockett.
Heath has him 25th in non-PPR, but 34th in PPR.
I can't get quite as excited because Tyler Lockett's getting 30 yards a game
the last few weeks.
I know you just said three straight games with 34 or fewer yards,
and Baldwin's been back.
Baldwin in those three games has had 91, 26, and 77 yards.
If Lockett doesn't score, you're screwed.
I start Baldwin kind of by default, but I would start MVS over him.
I would start Aaron Jones over him.
I don't know.
Yeah, but they're studs.
I mean, I would do that, but I think Lockett is right under there.
I would not start Kenyon Drake over Baldwin.
That's probably the line I would draw.
Yeah.
Listen, I mean, Baldwin looks much better coming out of that
bye, too, in terms of his
health. Before they went
into the bye, I was a little concerned, and obviously
he missed the majority of the season
going into that.
But still, those first three games
that he was back, he did not look like himself. I think coming
out of the bye, he looks better. So I do.
I agree with you there, but he hasn't scored a touchdown yet.
No, it's time. He and McCoy get in the end zone this week. You heard Brandon talk about Nick
Vanette. You can take a flyer on him. The Rams are not very good against tight ends and the Rams
DST probably want to get away from them. 16th for Jamie, 12th for Dave, 14th for Heath. All these
rankings, by the way, they update. So make sure you go to our website and check out our rankings page. Dallas is at Philadelphia. Stat of the game. How about this?
Dallas allows the second fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. Second fewest to wide receivers.
The Eagles allow the fifth most. Who's your favorite wide receiver in this game? Is it
Alshon? Is it Cooper? Alshon for me. Yeah, I mean, I see that the Cowboys have been good
against wide receivers, but there's no way you're sitting Alshon Jeffrey, right?
No, I mean, he is.
And that's my problem with Golden Tate, to be frank with you,
because Alshon Jeffrey is so clearly Wentz's guy
that I don't know what Tate's going to do.
So you're avoiding Tate?
I'd like to see one week with the team if I can.
Listen, your teams may not be able to withstand
that because again minnesota on by that's a lot of wide receivers that are out texans on by a lot
of wide receivers that are out broncos sanders is out ravens if you were flexing any of those three
so you may have to play him but to me i would like to see what this looks like i'm a little
concerned i mean listen golden tate's talent doesn't concern me whatsoever.
And after the catch, he's just maestro, right?
But in terms of what his role is going to be with the Eagles,
I think it's going to be taking over for Nelson Aguilar.
But how much volume and what chemistry is he going to have with Wentz?
Because Wentz seems to be very much a chemistry-type quarterback.
So would you start Doug Baldwin over or Tyler Lockett over Golden Tate? I probably
would. They have to throw
to keep up with the Rams.
Both of those people will be involved.
Carson Wentz is top 10. He's 6th for
Jamie and Heath. He's 10th for Dave.
You're starting Carson Wentz.
And then you're probably sitting
even with Sean Lee out,
I want to stash
the Eagles guys, but I don't know that I want to stash the Eagles guys,
but I don't know that I want to start any of them, right?
Yeah, tough stuff.
Start Zach Ertz, and we'll go to the Cowboys.
Dak Prescott, Nick Mullins, Baker Mayfield, Eli Manning, Blake Bortles.
Who's your favorite streamer this week?
You know, I like Dak this week.
I think they're going to try to redeem themselves here uh after the tennessee game that was just tragic uh so i think that this is interesting as a divisional
matchup i like quarterbacks in divisional matchups i don't like him on the road to philadelphia that's
not my favorite thing on the planet uh but certainly this is an interesting matchup for them
and you know also uh they're going to be playing playing Philadelphia in Week 14, so this is a preview also
for when you're in your fantasy playoffs, so make sure to
pay attention. If the Eagles
are who I think they are, they are going to
absolutely destroy the Cowboys in this game.
So it could be some passing
for Dak Prescott.
Look, Zeke's got a terrible matchup. Only one
running back has more than 42 rushing yards against
the Eagles. That was Saquon Barkley. But only
three running backs have had double-digit carries against the Eagles.
You're starting Zeke, but he's not a DFS guy, most likely.
And Amari Cooper, start or sit?
Probably start.
I mean, obviously they want to get him involved because they did
in the first game that they possibly could.
And so that's interesting to me i did
want to say though again i mean cole beasley was on the fields for 75 of the team snaps last week
but it was michael gallup who was on the field for 80 percent um and mark hooper for 85 so it's
intriguing to me that uh they they're definitely switching things around here uh in terms of
lining up cooper and gallup on the outside.
They're doing that a lot.
And then if someone sits out, it's Cole Beasley, which is weird to me.
It's been a very interesting development since getting Amari Cooper over the bye.
You can get Gallup a lot of places, by the way.
I was encouraged to find out that the Eagles are so bad against wide receivers.
I didn't realize that.
Now, I think they're getting better.
You know, you look at, like, the last three games, no more than 62 yards to any wide receiver.
That was against the Giants, the Panthers, and the Jaguars, for what that's worth.
But because Ronald Darby's really good, but they don't really use him.
Like, they don't shadow guys with him. So I hope Cooper can shake loose of him.
And I don't know what Jalen Mills' status is, but maybe I'll see some of Jalen Mills.
Alright, there we go. I'm sure
people will be starting the Eagles
DST. Hopefully they are actually worth it this time. And our final
game, Giants at the Niners.
I have taken up way too much time of Brandon
Marion Lee, so
I will try to go fast here.
But we talked about, actually, almost
everybody in this game. Like, you're starting
Beckham, you're starting Barkley.
Matt Breida, you're kind of like flexing on, right?
Yeah, I am.
Mostly because Matt Breida in the last three weeks has been an incredible disappointment.
And I think that actually the loss of Mostert, even though he wasn't necessarily like a huge fantasy guy yet and everyone was kind of there for potential.
But that means that the backfield is really kind of thin again.
And now we're back into this Alfred Morris land.
We don't have the support that gives Matt Breida kind of that big kick.
But if you look over his last three games, it's been pretty tragic.
He hasn't had a double-digit game since week six.
Now he's a starting running back and he doesn't have any competition.
So again, that's why he's kind of in this middle road for me where i have a very difficult time uh knowing what to say about matt brita at this
point and he continues to play even though he continues to be a little banged up all the time
now right now he's not on the injury report at all but i always feel like it's kind of we're
always on a you know teetering on maybe him being there you know yeah i i like the fact that
most starts out i think he's got an opportunity. They're going to get Alfred Morris involved,
but the thing about the Giants' run defense, I feel like when they've struggled,
it's been late in the game. Like, Alvin Kamara
gets a late rushing touchdown. Tevin Coleman gets a late rushing touchdown.
Adrian Peterson gets that long, like, 66-yard rushing touchdown. I don't know what the
game script is here. I think this is a tough game to predict.
I could actually see the Giants winning this game.
So I don't know that they're going to be killing the clock trying to beat the Giants with the run game.
And there's always the concern that Matt Breida leaves with an injury.
So I actually think he's a really fun—it's a Monday night game, so you'd have to play the full slate.
Like a really fun DFS contrarian play because I see some upside there.
But I don't see a ton of
safety there with Matt Breida.
Same with Marquise Goodwin, and we'll start
Sterling Shepard.
He could be a really nice option if you've got
a question mark at wide receiver, and I like
Manning better than Mullins. She likes
Mullins better than Manning. Do you like
either DST?
I feel like
we get burned in these games this reminds me of san francisco
oakland right where everyone went out and grabbed oakland's defense right before the game and then
they got burned myself included it's okay everybody did because it made logical sense to do that uh
and that's why i try to kind of avoid when bad plays bad because it kind of it's a wild card
right it's just like oh who knows what's going to happen. Especially with the Giants.
I will not play the Giants.
I could see playing the Niners, but I agree.
I don't really want these DSDs.
And I don't really want Evan Ingram.
I just have no faith in him.
That's our last.
Kittle's a must start.
I'll let you finish it off.
Evan Ingram, do you have any faith in Evan Ingram?
No, and I think that's unfortunate.
I think he's the one who lost out on the Manning season.
Brandon Marion Lee, I can't thank you enough for helping us out today.
I am sorry that it took way too long, and you need to get out and do some work.
Thank you for coming on Fantasy Football today.
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