Fantasy Football Today - 11/10 Fantasy Football Podcast: Start or Sit (NFC); Zeke Reaction
Episode Date: November 10, 2017Hey, Ezekiel Elliott is suspended again! How about that? We offer a quick reaction to start the show before giving our Fantasy takeaways from SEA-ARI (5:00). Adrian Peterson, ouch! ... Adam and Dave t...ry to get out of the No Touchdowns Club (14:38) and we play Beat the Waiver Wire (15:51) before getting into the games ... DAL-ATL (18:12), HOU-LAR (27:15), MIN-WAS (34:45), NYG-SF (42:08), NYJ-TB (49:12), CLE-DET (56:30), GB-CHI (59:35) and a couple of DFS lineups at the end of the show ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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But, yeah, let's talk about Ezekiel Elliott.
He's suspended again.
And we're pretty confident he's going to miss at least the next four games, right?
He's definitely missing the next four games.
Okay.
Definitely missing the next four games, which would be...
Atlanta, Philadelphia.
Yeah, so I put the wrong schedule in the notes.
It's Atlanta, It's Philadelphia.
It's the Chargers on Thanksgiving.
There it is.
And then it's Washington the following Thursday.
The three-game homestand that the Cowboys have, they will be without Ezekiel Elliott.
And then if he misses the next two, because it is a six-game suspension,
if he misses the next two, it would be at the Giants and at Oakland.
And then, in theory, he could come back for Week 16 against Seattle.
Drop or hold Ezekiel Elliott?
100% hold.
Unless you need the roster spot.
But it would be dumb to drop him because someone in your league will give you something for him.
It's not going to be a lot.
It might be.
They'll give you something.
There's a team that's clearly in first place.
But the team that's clearly in first place might not have him back until week 16.
Week 14 at the absolute earliest.
You're not going to get a lot for him in trade.
Yeah.
All right.
And then we got Alfred Morris going today.
And the good news is I have the first pick of the No Touchdowns Club draft today, Dave.
How'd you get the first pick?
Because you had it last week.
And you didn't let me get out of Alex Collins.
You had Alex Collins of Alfred Morris last week.
And when we found out during the show that Ezekiel Elliott was going to play,
you wouldn't let me get out of it.
So this is karma.
I will be taking him later in that draft.
All right, so how many Dallas Cowboys running backs, if you saw them on waivers,
you can't get Alfred Morris.
He's like 95% on.
But the other two, would you pick up Smith or McFadden? Smith for sure. It looks like he's the guy get Alfred Morris. He's like 95% on. But the other two, would you pick up Smith or McFadden?
Smith for sure.
It looks like he's the guy behind Alfred Morris.
There's even a Dallas Cowboys writer who predicted on Twitter that after the end of the six-game suspension,
Smith will have more touches than Alfred Morris.
Wow.
I think they're both interesting players.
The deep look that I took at Morris showed me that he can definitely work zone running,
power running, whatever the Cowboys want to do, he can do it.
He also showed that he's a lot better at catching passes.
That's going to be fun to watch.
Now, Smith also looked good in the preseason,
and there's certainly going to be opportunities for him.
I love the idea of stashing him.
He immediately has become one of my favorite stash
players.
I picked him up everywhere.
Rod Smith, you picked up everywhere.
Rod Smith, you picked
up everywhere? Yeah, I think I got him in
probably 12 of 21 leagues.
But you, of course, would rather have Alfred Morris.
Yep.
Can't always get what we want, Adam.
Interesting game this week with the Falcons hosting the Cowboys.
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Last night, Seattle 22, Arizona 16.
Was it a good play or a lucky?
Was it an amazing play or a lucky play?
Russell Wilson and Doug Baldwin.
Lucky.
Of course, lucky.
Lucky.
Okay, because everybody's, oh, you know what?
Wilson. Wilson's incredible. Wilson. And he is. I love Russell course, lucky. Lucky. Okay, because everybody's... Oh, you know what? Everybody... Wilson's incredible. Wilson's...
And he is. I love Russell Wilson. He's great.
He shouldn't have thrown that ball. Could have been intercepted.
It looked like he was trying to throw it away.
Yeah. Well, I don't know.
You think so? Yes.
Doug Baldwin is the one who made
the really good play there.
Come on. Everybody's so
in love with Russell Wilson.
Gets every, whatever.
No, I like Wilson a lot.
Not hating on him.
That was a silly play.
A lot of carnage in this game.
Richard Sherman tore his Achilles.
That was sad to see.
And he's out for the season.
Defensive tackle Jaron Reed, he got hurt.
Frank Clark got hurt.
Sheldon Richardson and Frank Clark, they appear to be fine.
Cam Chancellor left the field late in the game.
Left tackle Dwayne Brown hurt his foot
or maybe his ankle for Seattle.
CJ Proceiss hurt his ankle.
For Arizona, Tyvon Branch,
their safety and their left tackle DJ Humphreys,
both with serious looking
knee injuries. Humphreys may have torn his
ACL. The only good news
is David Johnson is going to have his cast removed
this week. And that's really the big
fantasy news here. Do you guys have any
interest in, if you saw David
Johnson on your waiver wire, would you pick him up?
I want to hear the Cardinals
say something about David Johnson coming back
in two weeks. Depends. I would absolutely
add him. He's 73%
on two weeks, Dave? I didn't hear that.
He's just, like, December. I guess it's
not that far away. Thanksgiving is what the target was all along.
If he can return it, we return by Thanksgiving.
But it was the coach who said he doesn't think he's going to come back.
David Johnson thinks he's got a chance to come back.
If I'm the Cardinals, I don't know why I put him back on the field.
Yeah, well, it's only going to get tougher for Adrian Peterson without his left tackle.
And he had a bad game.
Let's talk about the game.
Major takeaways.
Yeah, it was such a long penalty play game.
Major takeaways from this one.
Jamie, why don't you start?
Well, I don't want to say Peterson was an easy guy to get away from,
but he looked worse than I thought was going to happen last night.
He was bad.
You can't look at him and
say, tough matchup,
he's going to have good success.
Oh, yeah.
And just short week.
One point. One fantasy point.
Yeah. I mean, he couldn't get out of the end zone
on that stupid play call
where he got the safety.
The fumble on the first carry, you know, he's lucky that he got 21 carries.
I think on the radio broadcast, they said, or the TV broadcast, the local TV broadcast.
It had to be the radio.
The Cardinals radio.
Someone somewhere said something.
Cardinals radio broadcast said he's the 18th player to get more than 20 carries in less than 30 yards.
Oh, wow.
I don't know how much of it is on him because that offensive line stuck.
He missed holes.
He did.
That's true.
But the offensive line couldn't get anything.
The new camera angle gives you all the opportunities you need to see what guys are missing.
You're right.
You're absolutely right.
I didn't think that he missed a lot of holes based on the new camera angle.
I thought they closed very quickly.
There's that, too.
But there's also he's going toward contact when there's room for him to maybe pick up
a few more yards if he goes the other way.
I agree with Jamie.
But next week, though, he's going to have a good opportunity because he's going to have
lots of rest and a bad opponent.
But I'm not.
Okay, you know what?
Let's see what they do against Todd Gurley.
If they have a respectable showing against Gurley.
Houston, right now, they give up the second fewest fantasy points to running backs.
So I know you're kind of doubting them.
And I get it with Watton and Merciless out.
Makes sense.
Cushing too.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
But, yeah, it was bad.
I mean, one fantasy point.
And five Thursday night games in a row.
Mid-season Thursday night games in a row for Seattle.
Nobody's had more than 40 rushing yards against the Seahawks.
It's incredible.
They do a great job.
And their linebackers really stepped up.
I was the one most excited about Adrian Peterson coming into the game.
And if you had told me he would have had 21 carries, I would have said, for sure he'll get you at least eight fantasy points.
Right.
He couldn't do that.
Dave, he could have had the touchdown at the end, but Andre Ellington got it.
I know.
That's the other frustrating part of it.
And Thomas Rawls was not much better.
No, they're terrible.
He had a 23-yard run.
He finished with 27 yards on 10 carries.
And it's another situation where I don't think the Seahawks trust anybody with their run game.
They could have given him carries at the end of the game to kill the clock.
He was sharing with J.D. McKissick.
Yeah.
It's a little scary.
They're bad.
I think McKissick is a good stash in deeper leagues, by the way.
I wonder if they're starting to get him ready to have a little more work.
That's a good point.
And he is wide receiver eligible, McKissick.
And if he starts getting double-digit carries, or even eight, that would be significant.
Like Montgomery last year, not to say he had that effect.
On Thursday, too.
What if he starts getting the Chris Thompson type of workload of 12 touches per game?
So what do you guys think about Jimmy Graham?
He had only 27 yards, but he had nine targets.
He caught two touchdowns.
He was a beast in the end zone, six touchdowns in his last five games
and a pretty solid schedule coming up for Jimmy Graham.
He's playing well.
I mean, look, Russell Wilson's playing great.
And so, you know, when the outside guys can't really do much,
and this was a game where the outside guys didn't do much,
and Richardson and Lockett, you're going to see Baldwin,
and you're going to see Graham have to make plays, and they did.
Yeah, he does have Atlanta next week.
They're very good.
After that, it gets easier for Jimmy Graham.
But you know what the deal is with Jimmy Graham.
He's got to score for you. How many games can you count on him for 80, 90 gets easier for Jimmy Graham. But you know what the deal is with Jimmy Graham. He's got to score for you.
How many games can you count on him for 80, 90 yards?
No, never.
How many tight ends can you count on him for 80, 90 yards?
Not many.
He's one of them that can't.
Yeah, he can't.
I guess he could.
He hasn't.
It's unexpected.
I mean, this was not an easy—well, you know, let's be honest.
Cardinals, good against number ones with Patrick Peterson.
Good against outside guys.
But I know you guys didn't like Richardson and Lockett, but is it worth owning Richardson?
He's 87% owned.
Lockett's 44% owned.
I just feel like every single year we're like, oh, this number two wide receiver on Seattle, he might be good, and it never is the case.
No, they're just too inconsistent.
They took advantage of the Texans game.
Yeah.
No, I said it.
I'm sure we probably all said the same thing.
It was chasing points going after Richardson after that week
to expect him to do that again.
Yeah, sure.
And the game before, when against the Giants,
it was the flea flicker touchdown where he may not even have had the touchdown.
Right, exactly.
Okay. against the Giants. It was the flea flicker touchdown where he may not even have had the touchdown. Right, exactly. Okay, you know, I think Jermaine Gresham will be somebody worth talking about
on Tuesday's show.
Stanton seems to like him.
He could have had two touchdowns in this game.
He dropped the second one, and then he came a yard short on the next play.
He had seven targets, five catches, and a touchdown.
He caught a touchdown in Week 9.
So maybe if you're desperate for a tight end, not saying it's going to be great,
but they are at Houston next week, and we'll see.
And Larry Fitzgerald, 10 catches, 113 yards.
Good for him, man.
Good for him.
That's very encouraging for his owners.
News and notes for you on this Friday afternoon or morning,
whenever you're listening in the afternoon.
The Patriots claim Martellus Bennett.
Not a huge note, but they claim Martellus Bennett at Denver on Sunday night.
That's a huge shock.
It makes sense. Do you think it makes any
sense, given how thin tight end
could be on waivers, for the Rob
Gronkowski owner to
stash Martellus Bennett?
I don't think I would do that.
There were games last year where Gronk didn't play
and Bennett had one catch for eight yards.
Chris Hogan did not practice.
Friday's a big day for him.
And remember, this is a Patriots team that's coming off of a bye,
and he hasn't practiced at all.
Yeah, so Amendola boost there for him.
Burkhead boost?
The Burkhead boost.
The Burkhead boost.
Okay, how about these wide receivers?
Do you worry about any of these three missing their games?
Julio Jones, T.Y. Hilton, Dez Bryant.
Dez says he's going to play.
They need him.
They do now.
Julio's a big-time risk.
I might be nervous about him even if he does play.
Really?
Yeah.
Not me.
He's out there.
He's out there.
He's out there. He's out there. He's out there. He's out there. Yeah. Not me. He's out there. You're playing.
Let's see if he practices on Friday.
All right.
We'll have our mailbag show this afternoon.
We should be able to help you.
Oh, we're having Brian McFadden, former Steelers cornerback, on.
Ask him some football questions, some fantasy.
He's got three fantasy leagues.
He's a fantasy player.
So he's coming on the mailbag show with me and Jamie.
And I'm going to try, if I have time, I'm not sure if I will,
I'm going to try to create a game called Cane, Seminole, or Gator.
Because there will be one of each on the show.
And we'll see if we can do some trivia out of it.
That will be fun for three people.
Do you expect Matt Forte at Tampa Bay?
No.
No?
No.
Oh, boy.
He hasn't practiced at all this week.
All right, we'll preview that game.
Michael Thomas at Buffalo.
Yes.
Jameson Crowder against Minnesota.
No.
Not as of now.
Jordan Reed.
Not as of now.
Let's see what Friday brings.
The no touchdowns club.
That's what Friday brings, Dave.
We suck at this.
It gets harder every week, although this week's easy.
So last week, Dave took Alex Collins.
I took Alfred Morris.
I'm going to take Alfred Morris again.
I have the first pick.
That is a no-brainer.
I will not be surprised by any breaking Zeke news.
Dave, you've got Rod Smith or McFadden.
You've got Kenyon Drake. You've got
maybe Peyton Barber. Dwayne
Washington could get a goal line carry.
Marquise Goodwin.
Terrence Williams.
Adam Humphreys. TJ Jones. Curtis
Samuel. Ooh, not as
good as Alfred Morris. These are truly
all the receivers that I have to pick from.
I can't really think of anyone else that's worth a look.
I don't think I want to pick any of these players.
Did Deontay Thompson score a touchdown yet?
Yes.
Yes, last week.
Yeah, that's right.
So, no, not him.
You have to pick someone who's in your no touchdowns club.
I don't want to pick from this list.
I want to do more research and come up with somebody else.
All right, fine.
You have the entire show.
You have the entire show.
But you can't have Alfred Morris.
All right, let's do some beat the waiver wire.
This is actually going to be a pretty quick beat the waiver wire this week.
Because, you know, you look at, like, Cleveland.
They're playing Jacksonville.
Everybody owns the Jaguars DST.
The Bears, they're playing Detroit.
And everybody is now owning the Detroit DST.
Green Bay has Baltimore,
and Baltimore is a pretty widely owned,
but they are on their buy,
so maybe people will drop the Baltimore DST.
You could take a look at them.
Arizona faces Houston,
and that would be a good DST to own,
but they already played,
and they did pretty well, actually.
They had five sacks or something last night against Seattle.
So really, I think Jay Cutler, guys,
might be the best beat-the-waiver-wire candidate.
I don't, you know, you guys don't really like him this week.
But next week against Tampa Bay?
Sure, he could bounce back.
He could also try and get way ahead of his quarterback spot
if you want to get Jimmy Garoppolo or Teddy Bridgewater now
just in case those guys become starters.
Certainly by week 12 for Garoppolo, and he may play this week.
Kyle Shannon opened the door for him to maybe get some playing time.
Who knows if he's a difference maker.
And then you also have Bridgewater.
If Case Keenum struggles or potentially gets hurt, you know he's waiting in the wings.
Yeah, I don't see great DSTs to pick up because the good matchups are teams that already are widely owned.
Like I said, Baltimore, Detroit, Jacksonville, Kansas City is going to be at the Giants next week.
I don't think there's any Giants wide receivers you want to stream against Kansas City.
But Eli Manning.
Dolphins DST in case Fitzpatrick's still a quarterback.
Dolphins DST at home against Tampa Bay.
That's the makeup from the Week 1 game.
No interest in Kobe Fleener against the Redskins, right?
No. No, but the Bengals
DST too, if Osweiler's still a
quarterback, or maybe Paxson Lynch.
And maybe Tyler Croft. Denver's not great against
tight ends. I think Croft is like 75 or so.
Yeah, but he's like, at least last time I saw him, like 70-something.
Right, yeah.
Alright, that's Pete DeVante Booker.
I don't know how many times I've got to keep telling you this. Stash him on your team.
Rod Smith, again, pick him up now just in case he becomes prominent.
Week 10.
Yeah, good names.
So there you go, everybody.
You have no excuse to be behind in the Waver Wire.
All right, we're getting to the games early today.
And I will not pick Dallas as my bonanza this week. I won't
do it. I've done it too many times, so
we'll mix it up, and I'm going to
make the decision on the fly. But let's
start with Dallas, Atlanta. One more guy,
D.D. Westbrook, too, just in case. Okay, yeah.
D.D. Westbrook, Jacksonville wide
receiver. Hopefully he doesn't take away from Marquise Lee,
by the way. Your stat
of the game. A
running back has scored double-digit fantasy points in
standard scoring leagues against the Cowboys only once when Sean Lee has been healthy this year.
I believe that is six of eight games. Only one time. Now you look at those six games,
in four of them, the Giants, they can't run the ball. Cardinals were before Peterson and after
Johnson.
Redskins and the Chiefs.
The Chiefs, I mean, nine carries for Kareem Hunt.
These teams did not run the ball much.
But Devontae Freeman's been struggling.
Tevin Coleman is tricky to trust.
Cowboys run defense has been solid with Sean Lee.
What do you think about the Falcons running backs this week?
You're not benching Devontae Freeman.
You've got to have a real unique situation, you know,
like Orleans, Darkwa, and Alvin Kamara, you know, that type of situation.
How about Alfred Morris?
I'd still start Freeman over Morris just because of the uncertainty
of how they could split the carries in Dallas,
but you can make a strong case for it.
Look, I think this game kind of tilted a little bit
with Elliott
not expected to play,
with Tyron Smith
probably not going to play.
So Atlanta could have a lead in this game
at home
and have the opportunity to run the ball late. They haven't had that
very often this year.
Yeah, alright.
Well, I mean, I believe in patterns,
so I can already tell you what Devontae Freeman is going to do this week.
He has scored in his last four weeks seven, six, five,
and four fantasy points in standard scoring leagues.
So you're saying that's going to continue or he's going to break the pattern?
Oh, he's going to have three.
No.
No, I mean, yeah, it's hard to bench him.
Dave, what do you think about Freeman?
He just has been bad for four straight games.
It's really hard to get away from him.
He'd have to be loaded at running back to do it.
The thing that I hate is that they're not giving him a big workload anymore.
I know, yeah.
They're not tilting it toward Tevin Coleman.
They're just not running the ball as much.
Well, score has been a big part of that.
And each of the last two games, Freeman has left.
He left with a shoulder injury against the Jets.
He left with, I believe it was a knee injury.
That's what he's been dealing with this week.
Last week against Carolina.
Who knows if he's just not right?
He practiced in full yesterday, so you have to assume
that he's going to be fine.
He's got to make it through the game.
Again, they have to be able to lean on
their ground game a little bit.
It's not a situation
where he's
been the top five guy we
hoped he would be.
His backfield
friend, Tevin Coleman, start or
sit?
I think he's risky. You know the track record
and you know what the ceiling is with him.
It's like eight or nine fantasy points.
He does tend to play a little bit better at home than he does on the road,
but he's barely getting receptions, and he's not getting a lot of carries.
He's behind Freeman, who's not getting a lot of carries.
So I would try not to start him, but by default, he's a low-end,
no-low-end number two running back this week.
Yeah, I'm in a situation where I had Coleman,
since he has my third running back behind Elliott and Carlos Hyde, so I'm forced to start back this week. Yeah, I'm in a situation where I had Coleman, essentially as my third running back behind Elliott and Carlos Hyde,
so I'm forced to start him this week.
I do have Rod Smith and McFadden, though not have Morris.
And while I'm thinking about that team, another guy to beat the waiver wire is,
if Danny Woodhead's out there, just in case he's back,
go take a look at him next week.
But you just got to hope that he gets one of the splash plays that he's had
over the last couple of years.
And last week, he scored a touchdown.
Just didn't get a lot of work with it.
Okay.
And another running back in this game, Alfred Morris.
He's top 15 in standard.
He's 18th for everybody in PPR.
Okay.
Why is he not an automatic start, Alfred Morris, against the Falcons?
To me, it comes down to matchup.
And I think Atlanta's decent against the run.
They haven't allowed a lot of touchdowns to running backs on the season,
about four yards per carry.
And we know that Tyron Smith's not going to play left tackle,
or at least that's assumed.
I shouldn't say we know it because we don't,
but it's assumed at this point that he won't play.
That downgrade's an offensive line that hasn't been dominant.
It's been good.
And we haven't seen Morris in a long time get 15-plus carries in a game.
What would you say he's going to get?
How many touches?
Oh, I think he can get you to 15 touches.
Okay.
If he gets you 15 touches,
there's a very good track record for running backs against Atlanta.
So, so far this season,
nine running backs have had at least 13 total touches,
and eight of them have either scored a touchdown or got 80 total yards.
So I would say eight is about the number I'd be hoping for for Morris.
I shouldn't say eight would be the number I'd be expecting for Morris
if he gets 15 carries in that neighborhood with the chance to score.
So that could put him in the top 10.
I have him ranked 14th.
So I think he's a borderline number one guy.
So it just depends on who you have.
Like you said, Adam, if you want to start him over Freeman,
I can certainly understand that.
But the thing that concerns me more is not necessarily him having success.
It's is he going to get those 15 carries or 13 carries?
Because it could be Smith, it could be McFadden, it could be Morris starts, and because no Tyron Smith is there,
they can't run the ball.
And do they go to maybe somebody like Smith who could be a little bit more electric
catching passes where McFadden certainly is a little bit better than Morris
in that role too?
All right, Dak Prescott, guys.
I know everybody's going to start him,
but will he have the best game against the Falcons this year?
Because they have faced Aaron Rodgers. They have faced Stafford.
They have faced Brady.
They have faced Cam Newton.
None of them have scored more than 22 fantasy points in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues.
And maybe that means you want to get away from Dak in daily.
I don't know.
But do you think he gets to 22 or more, which would be the best so far against Atlanta,
and that's in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues?
I moved him down to fifth in my quarterback rankings.
It's the lowest I've had him
over the last several weeks, because
I think he doesn't have
a great chance to get
30 points in fantasy.
I don't know if any quarterback will get that this week.
It's a tough
bonanza week, I'll tell you that.
There's certainly a few who can, but I just
don't know if there's going to be somebody
you can necessarily say, I guarantee you this guy will because Stafford's got a great, great matchup,
but they may pull back the reins after they're up late in the game.
Jared Goff could be the same thing.
You know who else has a good matchup?
Matt Ryan has a good matchup.
He does.
Matt Ryan has a good matchup, but will he take advantage of it?
Yeah, he's been playing a little better lately.
If Julio doesn't play, he's not right.
Yeah, so are you nervous at all about starting Matt Ryan?
It comes down to Julio.
If Julio is limited or not on the field, yeah, I'd be nervous.
I really like Mohamed Sanu a lot in this game.
Slot receivers had a lot of success against the Cowboys.
Dirty.
All right.
Mohamed Sanu or Alfred Morris in PPR?
I'd still go Morris just because there's more upside with him.
But I do think Sanu is in a good spot.
Okay.
So Julio, if he starts, you play him.
Dez Bryant, if he starts, you play him.
If Dez Bryant doesn't play, would you start Terrence Williams and or Cole Beasley?
Williams would be number three receiver.
Yeah.
And which tight end do you like better?
I wouldn't want Cole Beasley because I know that Poole is the cornerback for Atlanta.
I believe he's healthy, and he's been good against slot receivers.
And which tight end do you like better?
Hooper.
Hooper!
You know, the one thing that could be interesting for Rod Smith is, or maybe McFadden, just because of how Alfred Morris' skill set is,
is pass catching running backs against Atlanta. Yeah. I'm telling you, Morris has made strides
there. He certainly has, but he doesn't have the pedigree catching the ball like the other two guys.
And by the way, we like Hooper better maybe, but these guys are both sits if you can avoid
Hooper and Witten.
In fact, Atlanta very good against tight ends.
Rob Gronkowski had five fantasy points against them, so it's not a good matchup for Jason
Witten.
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sports. We've got Houston at the Rams. I got a couple of stats of the day. Ooh, I love this stat of the day.
I love it.
DeAndre Hopkins.
No wide receiver has had more than 57 yards
or seven fantasy points in standard at the Rams.
They've been a very different defense at home
than on the road against wide receivers.
At home, Colts, Redskins, Seahawks, Cardinals with Stanton, I think.
None of them have had more than 57 yards or seven fantasy points.
That's a miserable group.
It is.
Doug Baldwin's not miserable.
Oh, he's at Seattle.
I'm sorry.
T.Y. Hilton's the number three wide receiver in fantasy.
So there's that.
You don't care, do you, with Hopkins?
I mean, the only thing I really care about is Tom Savage getting him the ball.
Okay.
I like his hair.
On the road, Garçon had 14 points, Dez Bryant had 9, Tavares King had 9, and Sterling Shepard
had 7.
I'm not seeing anybody other than Garçon that had a big game, double digits.
They allow the fourth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers.
They've only allowed four touchdowns to wide receivers.
Am I missing one?
You know what?
Regardless, I don't think anybody's had a huge game except for Garcon.
Which was wacky.
Yeah, it was that weird Thursday night game.
Fun game.
Thursday night game. Just game. Thursday night game.
Just something was in the air.
Dez almost had 100 yards against him.
Yeah.
All right, well, anyway, Hopkins is top 10 for you guys, right?
Yep.
Yep.
Probably not a good daily play, but everybody knows what his potential is,
and they saw it last week with Macho Man Tom Savage.
If it's going to be Tom Savage.
You think they go to
TJ Yates? I mean, look, they're giving first team
reps, so I imagine if Savage struggles that
Bill O'Brien will have a quick trigger
finger. Now, you might not
want to play Hopkins and Daly. Do you have any
trepidation about Todd Gurley and Daly
against the team that allows the
second fewest? No.
Okay.
Who have they faced since the injuries? Browns? against the team that allows the second fewest? No. Okay. No. Yep.
Just asking.
Who have they faced since the injuries?
Browns?
They stink.
This is Houston you're talking about?
Seattle can't run the ball.
They stink.
Indianapolis?
Indianapolis can't run the ball.
They stink.
Okay.
No, no.
I'm just saying that's the sample size since Watt and Merciless have gone down.
You have to believe that Gurley's got two touchdown potential.
Always, always.
Starter set Lamar Miller, guys.
Well, over under eight fantasy points in standard.
Push.
It's going to be right on there.
Okay.
So would you start Alford or Lamar Miller?
Morris.
Yeah.
Okay, all right.
But you'd start Miller over Tevin Coleman
Yes
Would you start
Lamar Miller is the safest number two running back you'll find
There's very little upside and probably very little downside
Would you start Lamar Miller or
Your favorite Rams wide receiver
And who would that be
It would be
For me it would be Watkins
And I would start Watkins
I'd start Watkins
If I thought I needed the big, big, big point potential
because there's much more room for letdown.
The floor is much higher for Lamar Miller.
The ceiling is much higher for Sammy Watkins.
Now, we know Houston can have some pretty bad games against wide receivers,
so it looks good, but Watkins had two targets last week.
He had one catch.
It was a pretty good catch.
It was, but Cooper Cup has, you know, he usually gets you around 50 yards.
He gets the end zone targets.
Robert Woods had five targets.
He got one last week and dropped it.
He did.
I know.
He's a sleeper for me on Friday FFT video show.
Cooper Cup, 64% owned.
Robert Woods, 64% owned.
Sammy Watkins, 91% owned.
Do fantasy owners have it right?
Because personally, I'd rather own the other guys than Watkins.
Well, again, I think you're looking at it from what's the floor versus the ceiling.
The floor play every week is going to be the other two guys because of what the targets have been.
The ceiling play is what you saw last week.
Sammy Watkins' touchdown is much more replicable than Robert Woods' touchdown.
Yes.
I mean, Woods is much more of a PPR guy, no question.
Yes.
So I feel with Robert Woods, you're chasing points in standard scoring.
Because he just hasn't done that throughout his career.
Sammy Watkins, we know if the targets can start to go up, he could be a superstar.
There's just one other little thing that I want to put out there.
The Texans have allowed six pass plays of 40-plus yards over the last two weeks.
Yeah, no, this is a Sammy Watkins game.
You've never seen anything like that.
It's certainly on the table.
And Jared Goff, you know, is playing great.
I'm sure I ruined him.
I make him start of the week? Come on. Give yourself some credit.
There's
such a high ceiling here for him.
There's a high ceiling for Watkins.
There's
nice floor plays for the other
two guys.
We just haven't seen all three play well
in the same game. Even that Rams game, it was Woods
and Watkins.
I'm sorry, the 49ers game, it was Woods and Watkins. I'm sorry, the 49ers
game, it was Woods and Watkins on Thursday night. It seems as if when Cup plays well,
he does it by himself. It's not like we've seen Cup and one of the other two guys have
good games.
Right. Yeah. All right. So actually, I talk about the ownership percentage and say I'd
have it the other way, where I'd have the other guys over Watkins.
But maybe that would be start percentage.
Maybe Watkins has for sure the most upside, and I understand why fantasy owners would own him.
And you guys say start him this week.
I know we don't like to tell people this, but if you face Jimmy Graham, for example,
and your team doesn't have a lot of potential star power or firepower for points,
and you have Watkins, you were debating Watkins versus maybe Watkins versus Woods.
In a standard league, I'd probably play Watkins there.
Okay, guys.
Moving on here.
Jamie, just tell me the quarterbacks you would start over Jared Goff.
I know you like him, and he's your start of the week.
Stafford and Russell Wilson will play last night.
That's it.
Before we go to our next – oh, any Rams tight end?
Houston allows the six most fantasy points as tight ends.
I wouldn't want to chase Higby after his amazing first touchdown of the year game last week.
So no.
Start the Rams DST though.
They're on fire. They're number one
for Jamie, number two for Dave, number five
for Heath. I'm not missing anybody in this game,
am I?
No, but C.J. Fedora, if he does play,
that could be somebody, again, beat the
waiver wearer guy. If he starts
to develop a rapport with Savage, you saw Stephen Anderson
get going at the end of the game.
So, my guess is what Savage, his progressionsions is Hopkins one, middle of the field two.
It's not like he's looking across the field.
Jamie, did you say the quarterbacks would take over golf?
Yes.
You did? I'm sorry. Who was it?
You just said it.
Yeah, I missed it. My bad.
I said the only two would be Stafford and Russell Wilson.
I thought you said C.J. Beathard.
That's what I thought. That's what I thought I heard, too.
Dave, who's your no-touchdowns club?
Let's go back to that.
Who's your no-touchdowns club pick?
I'm going to go with Marquise Goodwin of the 49ers.
Hopefully he can catch a long bomb against the Giants.
Not the easiest matchup for him.
Don't really love his quarterback situation, but what the hay.
Minnesota is at Washington.
Stat of the game.
Washington allows the fifth fewest fantasy points to opposing wide receivers.
They own outside receivers.
Alshon Jeffrey combined eight points in two games.
Sammy Watkins, three points.
Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree combined for 13 yards.
Des Bryant, three points.
None of those guys had more than 40 yards against the Redskins.
What do you think about Diggs and Thielen this week?
Love Thielen this week.
Because he's a slot receiver?
Yep.
That's exactly why.
He plays a lot more in the slot than Diggs.
Maybe the Vikings make a philosophical change and they put Diggs in there too,
and they maybe split that role, knowing that the outside corners play very well for Washington.
But I definitely like Thiel in there.
Okay, this could be a little tough, but I think you guys are up for it.
I'm going to give you five wide receivers.
I want you to rank them slowly so everybody gets it.
The two Vikings guys, the three Rams guys.
The two Vikings guys, Watkins, Woods, Cup.
I'm going Thielen, Watkins.
I got a Thielen on Watkins.
Then Diggs, then Woods, then Cup.
All right.
Like the red.
How come you're confident in Diggs?
It's top 20.
I do think they'll move him around a little bit.
It's not like he's only played outside. I mean, he has played snaps in the slot.
And so I like just the target share that he's going to get.
So, again, I'll go back to the floor ceiling.
Ceiling is higher for Watkins.
So I'd go Thielen-Watkins in terms of ceiling plays.
Floor plays, though, I think Diggs is a better floor than Watkins.
His floor last week was pretty bad.
Well, he didn't play last week, so yes, it was a zero.
Who, Diggs?
His last game, I mean.
Yeah, that was a shake the rust off game.
He hadn't played in a few weeks.
Wasn't even expected to play.
Played against the Browns in London.
How does one shake off rust? You play. I thought it was knock the rust off game. He hadn't played in a few weeks. Wasn't even expected to play. Played against the Browns in London. How does one shake off rust?
You play.
I thought it was knock the rust off.
I've heard both.
I've heard it. Name something you shake
rust off of.
Stefan Diggs. Now if you
need a quarterback,
would you start Keenum or Cousins this week?
Keenum. Cousins.
We've got to get away from Cousins, right?
You should try.
You should try.
Yeah.
But Keenum is in a much better place.
Only – well, no, that's last year.
Only three quarterbacks scored more than 19 points against Minnesota last year.
Cousins was actually one of them.
The other two were Luck and Rodgers, and they've continued.
They've picked up where they left off.
They have a great pass defense.
With that said, are we starting any wide receivers for Washington?
I wouldn't.
No.
No.
That's easy.
Now, what about the Redskins running backs, guys?
Can we get a goal line touchdown from Rob Kelly?
He's 63% owned.
And then we'll get to Chris Thompson in a second.
Let's talk about Rob Kelly.
Any interest at all in Kelly this week?
I think you can absolutely get one.
I'm not going to predict predict one it's possible he had two last week and then he had like 15 rush
yards on top of it so if he doesn't score for you it's really bad you want to talk about floor and
ceiling his floor is like two fantasy points and his ceiling is like eight fantasy points
it's not desirable yeah it doesn't make me want to start him.
Chris Thompson is the best Washington running back still.
Now, Chris Thompson's only had two bad games this year in PPR,
three in standard,
but the two bad games in PPR came against the Chiefs and the Seahawks.
Those two teams allow the fewest receiving yards per game to running backs.
Minnesota allows the sixth fewest.
So they're up there.
But they are, you know, I think they give up like 11 more yards,
more receiving yards per game than Kansas City,
about eight more than Seattle.
I'd say there's a gap between the two.
Is it, though, a tough matchup for Thompson?
Is it something we should be worried about, start or sit Chris Thompson?
I think you start him by default as a number two running back
because you know what his potential is.
And to me, matchup matters to a degree.
It's really a lot more about how many touches he ends up getting.
I don't love him in standard leagues at all.
Where'd you put him?
Near 20.
Right.
There are so many crummy running backs this week
He's one of them
But he does have a higher ceiling
You like Alfred Morris better in standard
How about PPR Thompson or Alf
In case you're Thompson there
PPR is fine
I mean you know that's
That's I think where his
His value lies the most
I don't think that's saying very much
The 100 yard games and the touchdowns Were never going to be sustainable for him where his value lies the most. I don't think that's saying very much.
The 100-yard games and the touchdowns were never going to be sustainable for him.
Yeah.
Okay, so that's Chris Thompson,
who's a number two running back
and obviously better in PPR.
Would you start Adam Thielen or Chris Thompson?
Thielen.
Diggs or Thompson?
Thompson is probably safer in PPR,
but standard, I'd probably go Diggs.
Okay.
We forget – oh, McKinnon.
McKinnon and Latavius Murray.
Give me your thoughts, Jamie, on the Vikings running backs.
I mean, McKinnon's awesome.
He's been very good three of the four games since Dalvin Cook went down.
19 or more fantasy points in the standard league.
He's got five catches in three of the four games.
So he's probably the best player offensively.
Okay, so you'd start him over Thompson, obviously.
Would you start McKinnon or Thielen?
I'd start McKinnon.
I'd start McKinnon over Devontae Freeman.
I'd start him over, you know, he's in the conversation of, you know,
five or six best running backs.
All right, awesome.
And Latavius Murray, I mean, he's 67% on. He doesn't do anything with the carries, but he's getting a ton of five or six best running backs. All right. Awesome. And Latavius Murray, I mean, he's 67% on.
He doesn't do anything with the carries, but he's getting a ton of carries.
He had 18 or more carries in each of his last two games.
There's a handful of guys.
I think Heath talked about this.
You buy into touches if you're stuck.
And so Latavius Murray, Rob Kelly, he'll probably get 13 to 15 carries.
Jonathan Stewart, Isaiah Crowell, they need touchdowns to be successful.
And Latavius Murray had one good game.
The workload has been fairly consistent for him week in, week out.
But he's just not explosive.
He's not going to be a factor in the passing game.
So if you're a touchdown or bust type of fantasy owner or want that type of potential,
that's the type of player you're looking for.
The one time I liked Murray was because I thought it was a matchup where he could kill
the clock in the second half.
You let the Cleveland game.
Right.
And Cleveland actually hung in there.
Well, no.
Cleveland was a good run defense.
That's what we were saying going into that game.
That's why I didn't like him, because Cleveland was a good run defense.
This is a decent run defense.
You know, again, Ezekiel Elliott didn't have a big rushing average, but he scored touchdowns
and was Ezekiel Elliott.
I don't think Latavius Murray is that.
You'll never feel good starting with him.
No, no, no, no.
Desperation.
You do feel good starting the Vikings DST this week.
The Redskins have allowed 14 sacks in their last three games,
but they could be healthier on the offensive line,
hopefully getting some guys back.
And finally, the tight ends.
Who do you like better, Rudolph or Vernon Davis?
Rudolph.
Rudolph by a lot.
It's a good matchup.
So where's Keenum ranked for you if you like all these guys?
He's number two guy.
I mean.
He doesn't throw enough.
That's, I think, the issue.
They just run the ball.
I don't think all three guys in the passing game are going to be good.
The one that has the most potential for failure is Diggs just because of his matchup.
Okay.
All right, let's go to Giants at Niners.
What do they call it?
The San Francisco what area?
The Bonanza area.
Oh, you didn't.
A shocking Bonanza.
Oh, this is great.
You're totally going to have to have a good game.
I know, I know.
It's a tough week.
But I'm going to tell you, these defenses suck.
They are terrible.
So this is what I'm going to say.
I'm going to say Carlos Hyde, good game.
And then Marquise Goodwin is going to have at least eight fantasy points.
You might get a good –
So wait, wait.
Let's establish something here.
So how many players on each side have to be good?
Well, it depends on the teams obviously, but I would say Eli Manning –
Three on each side?
I think the Bonanza qualification is most if not all of the players that are started regularly by fantasy.
See, but then he gets it out with this though because the only player started with regularity on the 49ers side is Carlos Sides.
No, but like Goodwin is someone that people are kind of considering this week.
Let me just tell you what his ownership is.
Garrett Selleck.
At least five players.
Let me just tell you what his ownership is.
At least five players.
At least five players?
Yes.
Combined?
Combined.
That's not a bonanza.
That's not?
No.
Okay.
Bonanza is a high-scoring game where lots of players do well.
See, here's where he's going to get his little wiggle room, and we're going to establish this before.
The DSTs, do they count or they don't count?
No, they don't count.
Do the kickers count?
No.
Okay, so you say people are starting Marquis Gouin?
It doesn't matter.
They can if they want, but Goodwin—
They can if they want, so that's the caveat you're going to get out of this?
They can also start fullbacks if they want.
I'm making this harder on myself.
Start Jalston Fowler. I'm making this harder on myself. Start Jalston Fowler.
I'm making this harder on myself.
I'm looking at –
I agree, but that's what I'm saying because this is where you have a wiggle room.
I don't know.
If you're saying – if the qualification is players who are star of the regularity do well, this is an easy bonanza for you.
No, because the thing is like if you use that criteria for every game, it's really hard.
There are always going to be – almost always going to be players.
How about just something as simple as each team has multiple passing touchdowns and at least one rushing touchdown?
No, no.
It's got to be.
He's got to pick a number.
So if it's five guys, I'm fine with that.
All right.
These are the guys that I think could have good games.
CJ Beathard, Carlos Hyde, Marquise Goodwin and Garrett Selleck, Eli Manning, Arlins Darkwa, Sterling Shepard, and Evan Ingram.
Okay, that's eight.
So I don't – I mean, Beathard is a long shot.
I think that would be tough.
I'm fine with you just saying five of those guys.
Five of them.
Five of those scrubs.
There are a lot of scrubs.
I don't think they're scrubs.
The four Giants guys are fine.
And Carlos Hyde is fine.
Those are your five.
Eli is a scrub this year.
He's been a scrub.
Not this week?
No, not this week.
But that's why it's the bonanza.
All right.
So let's get into the game.
I respect the call.
Thank you.
And you're defending it appropriately.
Okay.
So Eli Manning.
Why not?
Eli Manning or, well, obviously over Cousins.
Eli or Matt Ryan
Ryan
Eli or Dalton
Barring Julio
Sure
Eli or Dalton
Eli
Eli
And finally
We did this all week
Eli or Josh McCown
McCown for me
McCown
But they're close
They are close
Yes they are
Here is
Well let's stick with the Giants
They live in the same city
We'll stick with the Giants Then we'll go to the stat of the game.
Orleans, Darkwa, or Alfred Morris?
For me.
Darkwa for me.
Okay.
It's close, right?
I'm a little nervous about Darkwa.
Based on what?
Giants.
Hashtag Giants.
I am too, Dave.
That's the most consistent thing with Evan Ingram since Odell Beckham has gone down.
I'll tell you why because, you know, Jamie, you talked about that amazing stat.
What was it again?
24 straight games.
24 games where the 49ers have allowed a running back to either score or get 100 total yards.
Yeah, the thing is I don't know about the 100 total yards because he doesn't catch the ball really.
He has five catches in his last two games.
He's decent at it.
Yeah, that's true.
It's true.
I'm starting him.
He's top 14 in standard.
He's top 17 in PPR.
And he's averaging 5.1 yards per carry this year behind the worst offensive line.
They're getting their right tackle, Justin Pubek.
I mean, look, he's the first one to run well against Denver.
Give him credit for that.
Three of his last four games, either touchdown or 75 yards rushing,
or 75 total yards.
All right.
It's hard to say.
He's good.
All right.
Let's do it.
When you overcome your circumstances, you've got to give a guy credit,
and that's what he's doing.
He's overcoming his circumstances.
Would you start Sterling Shepard or Stefan Diggs?
I like Shepard a lot this week.
Really love the matchup against Leon Hall.
Number one receivers have had a lot of success against the 49ers lately.
That's good for Evan Ingram.
This is a slot receiver for the Giants against a slow nickelback for the 49ers.
Oh, the slow nickelback songs are the worst ones.
Would you start Sterling Shepard or Adam Thielen?
Thielen.
But it's close.
I really like both of them.
Thielen.
Thielen.
Would you start Sterling Shepard over Keenan Allen?
Yes.
Yeah.
That's an easy one.
Even in PPR.
All right.
Even half-point PPR.
How about Evan Ingram is like a top three tight end.
Start him up.
How about this?
I believe in streaks.
So a tight end.
Three straight games with a touchdown for Ingram.
Three straight games allowing a touchdown to a tight end for San Francisco.
So it should continue.
That might be good for Rhett Ellison.
Because Ingram doesn't play like a traditional tight end in that offense.
He's basically a wide out.
C.J. Beathard's a Hail Mary, but the Giants have just been awful.
Now they should get – they will get Jenkins back.
They could get Olivier Vernon back.
But four of the last five quarterbacks to face the Giants have scored 26 or more points.
Ew.
Start Carlos Hyde.
And, all right, I know you said Marquise Goodwin in your no touchdowns club,
getting off the schneid, but how much do you like Marquise Goodwin?
Is he just kind of a prayer or is he?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's exactly what he is. He's Bon Jovi. He's living on a prayer? Yeah. That's exactly what he is.
He's Bon Jovi.
You're starting him and you're hoping that he can
come down with two big plays
on several deep targets.
Would you guys start Marquise Goodwin
or Rashard Matthews?
I think I'd take Goodwin on the upside.
I'll take Matthews' floor,
Goodwin's ceiling. Look, he take Matthews floor, Goodwin ceiling.
Look, he got eight targets last week and sold it to Aldrick Robinson.
So it could be one of those two guys.
Okay.
Robinson's not a bad Hail Mary play if you're stuck.
Like I'm in one league where it's a dynasty league and he was available.
What's Goodwin's ownership percentage, Jamie?
26%.
Okay.
So most of you will be able to find Goodwin out there.
Garrett Selick or Austin Safarian Jenkins?
Safarian Jenkins.
Revenge game, buddy.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Garrett Selick or Jason Witten?
Garrett Selick is the Marquise Goodwin of tight ends this week.
Selick or Witten?
Selick.
Selick.
Witten PBR.
Selick will catch one
To pass for a touchdown
I gotta go
Yeah
I don't think he has
I don't think he has
More than one catch
In a game all year
But then again
He hasn't been first string
I gotta go a little faster here
We got three games left
Jets at the Bucs
Stat of the game
Only one running back
Has scored double digit
Fantasy points
In standard scoring leagues
At Tampa Bay
And that was
Wayne Gallman Who who had 10.
So nobody's had more than 10.
Gallman had a receiving touchdown.
That's the Bears, the Giants, the Patriots, and the Panthers.
None of them have gotten a double-digit fantasy point running back in standard.
PPR, a very different story because the Bucs are the new Falcons.
They suck against pass-catching running backs.
This is Saturday game number two.
Five or more catches.
Matt Forte's probably not going to play.
I know, I know.
Five or more catches to a running back six times in eight games.
50 or more yards four times.
Two receiving touchdowns.
So tell me about the Jets running backs and what you're doing this week.
Love Bilal Powell, Matt Forte, though.
He's going to be their lead guy, and Elijah McGuire will be the second guy up.
Not a bad guy to start a running back if you're desperate is Elijah McGuire.
And I think he's out there in a decent amount of leagues.
Powell has five catches in his last three games.
So he hasn't really been doing what you typically think he's been doing.
But he's averaging 4.6 yards per carry over that span.
No touchdown.
So he just doesn't have like the big fantasy performances.
But last week, he was their best running back.
Matt Forte was the best fantasy running back because he scored two touchdowns.
But Powell had nine carries for 74 yards and set up at least one of Forte's touchdowns.
This could be a humongous game for him.
Hey, Adam, pick a number between six and eight.
Seven.
That's how many touchdowns running backs have had against tampa bay in their last
four games yes and the receiving numbers i mean if forte plays you're gonna love him in ppr but
if forte's out which is what you guys are assuming below palace should get those those catches you
would hope and that would be huge um josh mccown is a top 12 quarterback for you two, not for Heath. He's 13th.
He just does not like him.
It's just so funny.
I don't understand what the disdain is for him.
He's probably just mad that he was a penalty away from being worth 24 fantasy points last week.
Oh, yeah, a BS penalty, too, on this Farron Jenkins catch.
Yeah.
But he's 71% owned, and McCown, we'd start over Eli. Would you start
McCown or Cam Newton?
I would start
Cam Newton.
Cam's going to have a very good floor
with the rushing.
I don't know how many touchdowns Cam can throw. I've seen McCown
have multiple touchdowns in five straight.
I will take McCown.
Alright, we cover the running backs here.
Robbie Anderson or Sterling Shepard.
I just think it's so funny that we love the Jets this week.
We just love the Jets.
But Robbie Anderson or Sterling Shepard.
I know you guys like Shepard.
You like Anderson more.
I do.
Me too.
And the trepidation I have is that Brent Grimes is coming back,
and he's their best cornerback.
He's Tampa Bay's best cornerback.
But Robbie's making plays, man.
And McCown has no problem
slinging it to him. It hasn't just been
big 60-yard touchdowns.
It's been red zone work, too.
Would you start Robbie Anderson or
DeAndre Hopkins?
Gasp.
Hopkins.
Hopkins.
Didn't have to gasp then.
Any interest in Jermaine Kearse?
Deep league.
Third receiver.
Okay.
How about Safarian Jenkins or Vernon Davis?
I'll take Safarian Jenkins.
Vernon Davis has injuries to both hands.
Yeah.
And Reed may play.
Well, if Reed plays, obviously, you knock him down.
All right, Safarian Jenkins is a top 12 tight end.
Would you go with Safarian Jenkins or Eric Ebron?
ASJ.
Yep.
Okay, we'll get to Ebron in a bit.
Tampa Bay, you know, they have a bad defense.
Let's just put it that way.
And there's reports that they've quit.
Ryan Fitzpatrick is 32% owned.
He's 15th for Jamie, 18th for Dave, 15th for Heath.
You could start him over Cousins?
Easy.
Okay.
The Jets have allowed the most touchdown passes in the NFL.
Even Kevin Hogan had a good game against them.
Buccaneers running backs
Start or sit Doug Martin
I would sit him
It's probably the safe play
But I can't imagine them not going back to him
To what level is the concern
But I don't think they're going to start
Peyton Barber or feature Peyton Barber
But you gotta figure that
Doug Martin needs to look at some things
Watch some film
Get on the same page as Offensive Line get on the same page as offensive line,
get on the same page with Dirk Cutter.
So he's still their best bet to probably win this game.
That's saying a lot, but he was bad last week.
He's had, in the two games before last week, 20 carries and 18 carries.
Like, dream workloads at this stage in the game for fantasy running backs.
He had seven fantasy points in both games.
Now, seven isn't terrible when you're talking about a low-end two running back,
but I don't know if he's going to get that many carries.
Prior to last week, that was essentially his floor.
I mean, he had seven every week.
Right.
It's been a steep and quick decline for the Duggernaut.
So it's obvious.
Now he's the Duggernaut.
It's obvious we like Darkwood better.
We like McKinnon for sure.
We like Bilal Powell better if Matt Forte doesn't play.
I would have told you just with the uncertainty that I played both guys last night.
Over Martin.
All right.
I think Deshaun Jackson is really interesting, guys.
Without Mike Evans this week, start or sit Deshaun Jackson? I like Deshaun Jackson is really interesting, guys. Without Mike Evans this week, start or sit Deshaun Jackson?
I like Deshaun Jackson a lot.
I think you're going to see his most targets in a game this season.
Love the matchup for him against the Jets.
They have not played well against opposing wide receivers.
Morris Claiborne coming back is going to help them,
but he's not 100% still playing on injured foot,
practicing in limited capacity.
So you know Fitzpatrick's track record.
He's going to feature his number one guy, and that's his number one guy.
But the Jets know that it's his number one guy.
You can say that about every team.
The Seahawks know that Larry Fitzgerald is their number one guy.
It's true.
They held him back, and I don't think Sean Jackson's catching 10 passes in the game.
If he does, then I think we'd definitely go ahead and start him.
Well, everybody's starting him.
Who?
Sean Jackson?
Yeah.
He makes me nervous.
Would you start Deshaun Jackson or Bilal Powell if Forte's out?
Oh, Powell.
That's easy.
It is?
Okay.
Should I start Deshaun Jackson over Stephon Diggs?
That's an easy one.
Yeah, I'm not ready to go.
Devontae Parker or Deshaun Jackson?
Jackson, easy for me
I have to make that decision
So thank you for your help
Who's the best flyer
Marquise Goodwin, Jermaine Curse or Adam Humphreys
Goodwin
Then Humphreys
I'll go the other way
Say Humphreys and then Goodwin
Godwin
Good Godwin
Oh I thought you meant Marquise Goodwin
I'm sorry
I did
Yeah Did you mean Marquise Goodwin or Chris Godwin Mar Good Godwin. Oh, I thought you meant Marquise Goodwin. I'm sorry. I did.
Yeah.
Did you mean Marquise Goodwin or Chris Godwin?
Marquise Goodwin.
I'd go Goodwin.
Okay.
I will rank them.
Goodwin, Humphreys, Godwin.
Okay.
I also said Jermaine Kirst, though. I meant the Jermaine Kirst third.
Yeah.
So nobody's starting Godwin.
Cameron Brait, though, everybody should be starting.
He's better than Austin Safarian Jenkins.
Jets stink against tight ends.
They had allowed five touchdowns in their previous four games before last week to tight ends.
And the Jets' DST is top 12.
And, guys, I'm tired of doing hour- and five-minute-long shows,
so I think we can sum up these next two games pretty quickly.
Here's what you need to know about Cleveland at Detroit.
Stat of the game, Detroit is the potato chip capital of the country.
On average, Detroiters consume seven pounds of chips a year.
The rest of the country eats about four pounds annually.
That was a stat from a few years ago in DailyDetroit.com.
So they love their potato chips there.
I will not make any controversial comments about sweet potato chips or anything like that.
Who do you want to start for Cleveland?
Correale is a flex.
Same with Duke.
Crowell or Doug Martin?
Crowell.
Crowell or Deion Lewis?
I think I have Crowell higher.
Crowell.
Crowell or C.J. Anderson?
Anderson.
Nobody in the Cleveland passing game, right?
Nope.
We love Matthew Stafford this week.
He is top two.
He could have a huge game against the Browns.
He's my FanDuel quarterback.
I didn't start a corner in FanDuel.
Do you have any interest in the Detroit running backs?
Cleveland, they're 2.9 yards per carry to running backs.
They've been outstanding.
I don't know if they're getting Myles Garrett back this week or not,
but if they are, that only helps them.
And the Lions stink
at running the ball. TJ Lang is in
the concussion protocol. You've got to keep an eye on that.
Not that it's going to impact Stafford too much, but
it certainly will not help their run game.
This could be a theoretic game
just based on throwing the ball. It's not like the Browns
give up a lot of catches to running back,
but he's basically four to five catches rolling out of bed.
And if he starts to get more carries, last week he had six,
which was his second most of the season because of Abdullah's fumbles.
You never know in the red zone if they turn to him.
Miles Garrett, not even on the injury report.
He's playing.
So pass-catching running backs against Cleveland,
they've had some real good moments, like against Le'Veon Bell, three catches, 15 yards.
DeMarco Murray, three for 17.
They've had some bad moments.
Buck Allen, 35 yards and a touchdown.
Gio Bernard, 67 and a touchdown.
Jarek McKinnon, six catches for 72 yards.
It's been up and down, but honestly, a lot of teams have bad moments against pass-catching running backs.
I think with Riddick, you kind of know what you're expecting.
He's a good flex option in PPR.
Which wide receiver do you prefer for Detroit?
Tate.
I'll go Jones.
He's going to avoid McCourty, who's going to play.
And so both guys are going to be great.
But slot receivers have just dominated the Browns.
Get them in your lineup.
And Marvin Jones is like $6,400 on FanDuel.
He is maybe my favorite player on FanDuel.
Yeah, I'm doing a 50-50 where I have Stafford and both Lions receivers.
Oh, both Lions.
Okay.
And Cleveland allows the third most fantasy points to tight end.
So if you need a tight end, Eric Ebron has made the top 15 for Jamie and Heath.
Not there for Dave, but he's 44% owned.
He's not terrible, and we love the Detroit PSP.
He's in the same thing that we say when you face the Giants guys we were saying with higby last week you're just hoping for one or two
big plays and look what did ebron do when you face the giants similar matchup yeah or a touchdown
did stat of the game for green bay at chicago 12 wide receivers have had 80 yards or a touchdown
against green bay in their last seven games that is hard to fathom they've been that bad against wide receivers 12 of that 80 or a touchdown in their last seven games. That is hard to fathom. They've been that bad against wide receivers.
12 of that 80 are a touchdown in their last seven games.
That includes Kendall Wright.
But I will ask you, is there any wide receiver in this game that you want to start?
None to start.
Again, I'm in a league where I'm stuck, so I am starting Kendall Wright.
I've got to start Devontae Adams in the league.
Who is your favorite wide receiver in this game?
Still Jordy.
Yeah, I don't want to. I'll take Devontae.
Devontae had a lot of targets, a lot of catches
last week, and Jordy got Darius Slay.
Bears are really good
at home defensively. We know that.
Jordy Nelson or
Aaron Jones? Better flex.
Jordy.
I've got no confidence in Aaron Jones.
It's hard to answer what happened last week.
Yeah.
Do you have confidence?
Is Ty Montgomery a sleeper?
Do you think he starts to get more work?
He definitely starts to get more work, but it's hard to call him a sleeper
because I don't think anybody in Green Bay is going to be very good.
Could he be a PPR sleeper on the hunch that he plays a little bit more on passing downs,
works a little bit more out of the backfield, catches a few more passes,
a little razzle-dazzle in the flat.
It's a stretch.
Makes a man miss.
Okay, I think we're pretty much done with this game.
Jordy Nelson or, well, you'll start Deshaun Jackson over him.
Yes.
So Jordy Nelson or Marquis Goodwin.
Goodwin.
Take the chance on Goodwin.
Alright, guys.
Got a FanDuel lineup handy?
Yep, and DraftKings if you want.
Hit me with it. Which one?
Both.
FanDuel, Stafford,
stacking him with the two other guys,
Golden Tate and Marvin Jones,
Todd Gurley and Jordan Howard,
Sammy Watkins as the third receiver,
Kyle Rudolph at tight end, Mike Nugent in the Bears defense.
And then for DraftKings, Eli Manning, Le'Veon Bell in Orleans-Darkla,
A.J. Green, Sterling Shepard, and Robbie Anderson, Cameron Braid at tight end,
Deshaun Jackson at the flex, and again the Bears defense.
That's it for today.
We'll talk to you on the Mailbag on Saturday,
Ion Fantasy Football Saturday night,
and Fantasy Football today, 11 a.m. Eastern on Sunday.
See you later, everybody.
Have a great weekend.
Bye.
It's all right.
I've got Le'Veon.
It's all right.
Not George Le'Veon.
It's all right.
I've got Le'Veon. It's alright. I've got Le'Veon Bell.