Fantasy Football Today - 11/13: Second Half Breakouts; PIT-CLE; Fantasy Jeopardy! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 13, 2019

Heath made a trade, and we get to review it! He tells us why he sold high on Aaron Jones and bought low on Cooper Kupp. Then we discuss some potential second half breakouts (10:40) like D.J. Moore an...d maybe even Joe Mixon ... News and notes (21:50) and a Saquon Barkley vs. Melvin Gordon debate (23:45). And we once again go over players with great upcoming/playoff schedules (30:05). James Conner is set up for a big finish, Nick Foles is interesting and there is a TE who may be available on waivers that could be very productive ... We read your Apple Podcast questions (37:23) and preview PIT-CLE (40:22). Some very tough WR decisions in this game! And when we're done with that we play some Fantasy Jeopardy (49:10) and answer a bunch of your tweets (56:40) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Today on the show, why does Heath Cummings have two Browns receivers ranked in his top 15 on Thursday night? Well, let's ask Heath. Heath, why do you have two Browns receivers ranked in your top 15? That does seem a little bit high. I expect a big bounce back from Odell Beckham, though. I think the Browns win this game and put up a few points.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Whoa. All right. That's Heath Cummings. He doesn't really like chocolate very much. Here's another guy who doesn't like chocolate. I am surrounded by weirdos. Ben Gretsch, what's going on, Ben? Not a lot, guys. You know, I'm excited to jump into this, though. Good. I want to clarify, I like chocolate. I don't necessarily like a lot of the forms that it comes in, but just pure chocolate is very good. Okay, I don't really know what that means.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I mean, basically it comes in chocolate. Yeah, I don't either. Yeah, that's weird. I kind of missed that. I whiffed on Ben's intro music. I apologize for that. I'm not saying I dislike chocolate either, but I don't understand what it means to say that you like chocolate, but you don't like the forms that it comes in. I'm not a candy guy. I'm not a cake guy.
Starting point is 00:02:28 But I'll just eat a piece of chocolate, or I'll have some chocolate on something. That's fair. So Heath, I've been told that you want to steal the intro from me and start the show with your own thing. I just want to say we have a special guest coming on the show today. Do you guys know who's coming on the show today? Special guest? No, no.
Starting point is 00:02:52 You can do that around him if you'd like, but no, we're not regulating today. Ben Schrager, our producer, is going to make his first appearance on the show. Really? Yeah. When we kick you off,ath ben's gonna gonna fill in for you okay great um yeah yeah i heard a rumor that you were going to start the show talking about chocolate or something and so i thought i'm going to come up with a better intro than that okay i made a trade this morning that you guys are going to hate and then i'm hopefully going
Starting point is 00:03:20 to talk you into why i made the trade and that it was actually a pretty good idea. All right. I hate it already. Yeah. That doesn't surprise me. I traded Aaron Jones, Golden Tate, and T.Y. Hilton to Dave Richard for Cooper Cup, Devin Singletary, and John Brown. Wow. I do hate that. I really hate that.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I hate that. Wow. Two weeks ago, you were saying Cooper Cup was like a top three receiver. How do you hate it so much? Because I don't like Devin Singletary's schedule. I think you may have just given up a running back. I think Aaron Jones is going to be so much better than Devin Singletary. I guess if you desperately need to win this week with Jones on by, I could see it.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's not just Jones on by. Singletary, Kup, and Brown all have six games left. Aaron Jones, Golden Tate, and T.Y. Hilton, none of them are playing this week. We don't know when Hilton is coming back. First off, I do have to win this week, which I think makes the trade acceptable. But then also, if you look at these six players, and I think there's reasons to believe certain players will be better than they have been so far on a per-game basis, like Devin Singletary, who didn't really have a role until two games ago, and certain players might be worse, like Aaron Jones, who's averaged seven fewer fantasy points per game with Devontae Adams
Starting point is 00:04:48 than he did without Devontae Adams. He just scored three touchdowns. But if you just look, I know he just scored three touchdowns, and he still scored seven fewer fantasy points per game with Devontae Adams. He also split the touches 50-50 with Jamal Williams in that game. Right. If you just look at these six players and say, how many PPR fantasy points per game have they scored so far?
Starting point is 00:05:10 How many games do they have left? How many points will they score until the fantasy playoffs are over? The Singletary cup, John Brown side outscores the Aaron Jones, golden Tate, TY Hilton side. That's presuming that Hilton only misses one more game, which I think is kind of an assumption that we have no reason to make right now.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But it's been very close. I think what it comes down to is, do you think it's more likely Cooper Cup matches his points per game for the season so far, or Aaron Jones? Yeah, I would guess Cup. I just want to give a quick news update uh brandon cook's not going to play this week but actually might be back next week so uh if somebody dropped him like jamie dropped him in one of our leagues and i understand you
Starting point is 00:05:55 have to you have to make these decisions uh i'm gonna sit there and make a claim on him and thinking if the only player i can drop is evan ingram so that would be a tough call but cup might our cooks might be back next week for what that's worth and coming off a catchless game for Cooper Cupp. I think that's probably actually better for Cupp. Yeah, it probably is. And I was going to say I think both Cupp and Jones probably can't match what they've done. But Cupp's zero catches last week. Now we're talking about him like he's chopped liver or at least kind of treating him that way in his valuation.
Starting point is 00:06:23 That's not what that's worth. Well, I just want to make sure we're not over overreacting that but jones you said he scored three touchdowns last week he only had 13 13 touches and i totally agree with heath stat which was like you know he threw a bunch of stats out there but one of the ones i really want to highlight is how much worse jones has been with devonta adams on the field because they used him so much more in the passing game they were throwing they were splitting out wide and throwing him quick hits he had a long touchdown uh i i guess was it the kansas city game uh on a quick hit out at wide receiver uh when he split out he's had downfield targets three weeks in a row he dropped the one touchdown he caught one for a td the next week he caught another long one in that kansas city game where
Starting point is 00:07:00 he went wound up having like 150 yards receiving none of that role has carried over with davante adams back he's basically splitting snaps he just had a three touchdown game he only had 13 touches that's what we saw from tevin coleman a few weeks ago where he had a 13 touch four touchdown game and tevin coleman we've seen since then kind of have more the floor of that type of workload and we're probably going to see that from jones coming up i agree in four games without davante adams jones had four or seven catches in every game two games of seven catches two games with four catches in six games with adams he has one catch or fewer in four of the six games now he has another game with four another game with six but four out of his six
Starting point is 00:07:39 games he only caught one pass yeah but Devin Singletary split work with Frank Gore, didn't get the goal line work. He had eight carries. One goal line carry last week. Yeah, but it was Frank Gore. Gore was in twice at the goal line. It was one carry, but he was in twice.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Josh Allen scored. I think Aaron Jones is going to be better than Devin Singletary. Yeah. Well, look, I mean, I get it to be better than Devin Singleton. Yeah. All right. Well, look, I mean, I get it. Look, Aaron Jones had three fantasy points two weeks ago. Four in PPR. So I understand that. But at the same time, like, he's a top five, three to five running back.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I think we're sort of knocking him down a little bit too much here. Austin Eckler is a top four running back. Austin Eckler is a top four running back because he played four games without Melvin Gordon. Let's be real here. Aaron Jones is a top four running back because he played four games without Melvin Gordon. Let's be real here. Aaron Jones is a top four running back because he played four games without Devontae Adams. Aaron Jones is a lot of— With DeAndre Williams. He's averaged 15 fantasy points—PR fantasy points per game with Devontae Adams.
Starting point is 00:08:35 What is this slander of Aaron Jones that we do? I mean, I just don't— It's not slander. It's just facts. It's slander. It's definitely a great— Like, this is the conversation we had two weeks ago not just davante adams but also jamal williams was out when he had his his big explosion
Starting point is 00:08:51 well he's had two big explosions because melvin gordon was out austin eckler was was better i mean you gotta recognize it gets four games compared to one i mean aaron jones has been good all but three weeks he's had three really bad weeks. He's had seven very good weeks. Good to very good weeks. He's a must-start slam dunk. He's a must-start slam dunk running back. He's a solid number two running back the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I think he's... I'd be hard-pressed to find 12 running backs I like better than Aaron Jones. Now, I mean, there's definitely five. I don't think he's as good as he's been because you're you are right one catch on one target in his last two games it's a it's a big deal but there are great offense 12 but that's moving the goalposts you said he's he's a top five running back no no i say he's not a top five running back he has been top five but he i don't think he is top five going forward i I agree with that. But I think he's top 12. But Singletary, Adam, we talked a little bit last week about how in week two he got hurt.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And in his first game back from injury, I was just looking at the snapshares again this week. He played like 30-something percent of the snaps in those two games in week one. And then I guess it was week eight or week nine, his second game back. And every game since, he's played like over 65 65 66 67 very consistent amount of the snaps didn't get a ton of touches last week but it seems pretty clear that when he's healthy he's going to play two-thirds of the snaps okay i mean i'm hopeful for him i just i really don't like his schedule uh a lot of tough matchups after this week i he needed to win so those are the types of trades you have to make.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm hoping, as a T.Y. Hilton owner, that he is back next week, but we'll see. Okay, so today on the show, Fantasy Jeopardy, that's going to be fun. We have a new bonus category that we're going to enjoy. I'm going to give you some good and bad schedules. We're going to talk about some second half breakouts.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I want to remind you about our Facebook group who are going to be some league winners, like the Steelers DST, I think is going to be a league winner, even though Heath has them like 16th this week because he thinks that the Browns are going to win. Jordan Howard's got a great schedule. You think DSTs? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Do you play in leagues that have just massive DST scoring? Every league I'm in, look at our standard scoring leagues, like normal CBS default scorings. The Pittsburgh Steelers have scored in their last six games, 26, 15, 17, 20, 19, and 24 fantasy points. Their next six games going through the end of the season
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Starting point is 00:11:48 Ben's got a list of second half breakouts. I cherry-picked a few of them. Let's start with two wide receivers. Christian Kirk and DJ Moore. Before you go into your spiel, I'm going to give you the rebuttal. They don't
Starting point is 00:12:03 get targets inside the 10-yard line. Christian Kirk has two. DJ Moore has zero this year. No green zone targets. None for DJ Moore. Not one. There are 16 wide receivers with five or more touchdown catches this year. Only four of them have less than four green zone targets, but there are plenty of wide receivers who have four touchdown catches and very few green zone targets
Starting point is 00:12:31 or targets inside the 10. So it can be done, but that's the concern I see for Kirk and Moore, but you see them as second half breakouts. Yeah. For Moore specifically, you do have to look at some context. I think the Panthers have only thrown 10 touchdown passes all season. They've obviously been leaning more on the run. And of those 10, Christian McCaffrey has caught a few. So they've been leaning on Christian McCaffrey heavily in the green zone or in any kind of high value area. Curtis Samuel, I believe, leads their team with four touchdown receptions, and you have Greg Olson, I think, at two, DJ Moore at one,
Starting point is 00:13:11 or maybe Olson's at three, Chris McCaffrey, one of them's at two. Point being, there's not a lot of touchdowns that have been going around in this passing offense. I do think they're going to have to pass more going forward. Cam Newton didn't throw a touchdown pass in the couple games he played hurt. It's been a weird kind of season for them. Kyle Allen took over. They were conservative at times early in Kyle Allen's tenure. Now this is Kyle Allen's team.
Starting point is 00:13:31 They have to open him up a little bit more if they want to actually contend the rest of the season. They've got to see what they have from him. So I do expect that they will throw more in high leverage spots going forward than they have. It's just been a type of season for Carolina where they, they've leaned on Christian McCaffrey very, very heavily to this point. Even having said all that, I I'm still not overvaluing DJ Moore's green zone targets. And I don't think you should,
Starting point is 00:13:54 it's a lack of green zone targets, but he does have four red zone targets. It's just kind of like a, you know, where do you want to put this limit on the, on the yardage line to, to cut them off? Also,
Starting point is 00:14:03 his only touchdown was a 52-yard catch. He's a great after-the-catch player. Beyond all of that, it's just really bizarre that a guy would have 79 targets in one touchdown. That's going to positively regress. He's been so consistent with the targets. He has more than eight targets in five of seven games and in each of his last four. We just haven't seen the touchdowns. That that's what can easily make him a second half breakout. I did put more in my wide receiver preview this week, along with John Brown, Mike Williams, Odell Beckham, Devontae Adams, and Robert Woods. All those guys that are just simply going to score more touchdowns
Starting point is 00:14:40 from this point than they have so far this season, and will get better in fantasy if only because of that? I do have a question for you, Ben, that I don't have an answer for, but philosophically, I think Adam's grown tired of me talking about how this guy who hasn't scored touchdowns is going to score touchdowns and vice versa over smaller sample sizes. We're now 25 games into DJ Moore's career. He has 161 targets, 1,500 receiving yards, and he's scored three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I'm not ready to say 25 games in. He's just not going to score that many touchdowns. But there are players that we look at and say, listen, it's been five years. He's never scored more than six or seven touchdowns. He's not going to be a big touchdown guy. How long would DJ Moore have to go with this ridiculous lack of touchdowns before you'd start to accept it as a feature? No, I mean, I think you can already start to adjust and say, look, this guy's being
Starting point is 00:15:34 used as a high target, a high volume possession receiver, low a dot. He's not getting downfield targets. He's clearly not being used in the green zone like we talked about. Their offense revolves around a really elite dual threat running back that makes a lot of sense in the short area of the field so yeah there are reasons to think that more might not have a league average touchdown rate right but the touchdown rate we're talking about over his two seasons is so far out of any kind of error bound of league average. It's multiple standard deviations away from, from average. Um, so I mean, I actually don't know that for certain, but I'm pretty
Starting point is 00:16:10 confident. It's 1.8%. It's 1.8%. When I project a bad quarterback for a season and I had to put a touchdown rate in there for his past attempts, like a bad quarterback, I will say 4%. Maybe if I really think they're terrible, I'll say three and a half percent. That would be more than double four would be what more I've been so far in his career. And even if you look at the receiver side and the quarterback side, typically those rates are even higher because you're talking about a quarterback's rate, which includes some pass attempts to running backs and things like that. Receivers have higher touchdown rates. A 4% touchdown rate for a receiver would be below average i think about 4.5 or 4.4 percent as
Starting point is 00:16:47 close to league average so we're talking way below the league average for a receiver now you factor in that he has a lower average depth of target yeah he's going to be a little bit lower you factor in that he's had trouble scoring okay maybe he's going to be a little bit lower but if we also want to talk about a skill set the guy has a phenomenal yards after the catch profile last season really amazing yards after the catch profile last season really amazing yards after the catch uh per reception i haven't actually like dug into that all right so let me let me just get get the like where what do you think dj more is the rest of season is top 20 wide receiver top 30 is he better than number one wide receiver yeah yeah but let me finish this thought real
Starting point is 00:17:19 quick i do think he has the skill set to have a decent, a better touchdown rate than he's had. And so, sorry, sorry that I'm carrying on, but he said philosophically, where are we at? I think you take that league average touchdown rate I was talking about. You can adjust it down, but you shouldn't expect 1.8% is my point. So maybe he's regressing to a different mean than league average and a lower mean, but it should be nowhere near 1.8%. We should expect it to be better than what it's been. I think that makes him a top 20 receiver. Where is he at right now? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:17:50 He's a lot better in PPR than non-PPR. He's the number 17 wide receiver so far. I think he's a top 12. That's PPR, right? Yes. I can't imagine he's that high in non-PPR. Christian Kirk, he's got double-digit
Starting point is 00:18:06 targets in, I think, three or four out of seven games, which is great. Kyler Murray's only thrown 12 touchdown passes this year, but he does have five in his last two games, so that's a good sign, and three of them went to Christian Kirk last week. Got a trade question from Dean in St. Louis. Would you trade Christian Kirk
Starting point is 00:18:21 for Phillip Lindsey? And as we look at second half breakouts, I'm going to give you guys who have great schedules, and Phillip Lindsey is one of those guys. His fantasy, four of his last five matchups going into Week 16 are great. Buffalo, the Chargers, then at Houston could be tough, at Kansas City and Detroit. So would you rather have Christian Kirk or Phillip Lindsey rest of season, guys?
Starting point is 00:18:43 I would rather have Kirk. I'm concerned about the lack of targets we saw from brandon allen i've talked all season about the the broncos running backs and having good high value touches being potential by lows because flacco targets the running backs at such a high rate we didn't see that from brandon allen last week and and even if he's like at a league average rate of targeting running backs it's a huge drop off for the value of both lindsey and more uh freeman who are uh sharing snaps and we're sharing routes but it was that really high rate of running back targets that was boosting both of them or at least helping both of them i will take lindsey i'm a little bit concerned about this cardinals offense and the finish i don't have a lot of interest in them at San Francisco this week.
Starting point is 00:19:30 They've got the Rams after that. They've got the Steelers after that. Then they've got the Browns and the Seahawks, and that's far enough away that I'm not really sure what I'm going to think about it. So I'm a little bit worried. I mostly agree with Ben's points on Kirk, and I think he's the number one, and I think he's got a very bright future. I'm a little worried about the near term. Okay. I am going to tell you about a great way for you to save some money this holiday season, all right? Because you're giving holiday gifts and that's great, but overspending on all those gifts is definitely not great. Why spend more than you have to? Finding the lowest price is easy if you have Honey. What I want you to do is go to this URL, pause the podcast, go to joinhoney.com slash FFT.
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Starting point is 00:21:23 two catches for 37 yards. So are we optimistic that he's going to be able to keep this going with, you know, I would say three tough matchups and then three great matchups possibly to end the season. But, yeah, Mixon, Ben, you optimistic there? You know, it's funny. I sent you that email, and i wasn't actually trying to list out second half breakouts i was like oh hey we could do second half breakouts and here's some interesting players also that i want to talk about nixon i think is interesting i wouldn't call him
Starting point is 00:21:52 a second half breakout necessarily but i do think it's really interesting that they uh after the quarterback change he got 30 carries last week even in a game they got completely blown out he hadn't hit 20 carries all season he had had more than 15 carries i believe twice all season they had not been committing to him to run the ball like that they got absolutely crushed and they ran him 30 times they absolutely featured him that's that's helpful i mean it was a lot of low value touches but it's a lot better than what mixon's been getting uh i you know i i'm not like super excited but if they're gonna be like washington uh who has lately been just feeding their running backs even as they've been losing and playing super short football games and basically just running out the clock on their
Starting point is 00:22:34 season if the bangles are gonna do the same thing and feature mixin even as they are behind in games um and again he had more than 10 carries more than his previous season high in their first game with a new quarterback. Then yeah, mixing can actually have some value going forward. I don't think necessarily be a breakout. All right. So then let's take a look at the news and notes and some schedules. Saquon Barkley says he's not going to get shut down. He did have an x-ray on his shoulder. It's not going to be up to him ultimately, but he doesn't want to be shut down. They're in a buy this week. Got a Saquon Barkley question coming up in a moment. Emmanuel Sanders could be a game-time decision with cartilage damage in his ribs.
Starting point is 00:23:11 He's got Arizona. And George Kittle has a chance to play. I think if Sanders and Kittle both play, it's obviously not going to be good for Debo Samuel. But you've got to be a little skeptical that both Sanders and Kittle are going to play at this point. Joe Staley is not going to play their left tackle. He broke his finger. He could miss a few weeks. He might need surgery.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Matt Breida could miss some time, according to NFL Network. So that's a bunch of Niners news as they face the Cardinals this week. The Bucs released cornerback Vernon Hargraves for not hustling. The Rams offensive line is beat up. Their center, Brian Allen, is out for the year and the right tackle is going to be out for at least this week good news on Tyler Lockett Pete Carroll does not expect him to miss any games he expects a full recovery for Tyler Lockett as they're in their bye this week and Ed Dixon might play in week 12 Heath uh you're seeing this news on Ed Dixon does
Starting point is 00:24:00 that make you less excited about Jacob Hollister? He's actually been very good two weeks in a row. No, because I wasn't super excited about Jacob Hollister, adding him on a bye week to hold him. I don't know that he's that level of confidence in the first place, but it could be a problem for him if you've done that. I'm still going to... It's just, are you desperate at tight end? Do you have an extra roster spot? Then you should have Jacob Hollister just in case. Denver quarterback Drew Locke practiced. He has three weeks to be activated. I'm going to ask you in a little bit how much you trust
Starting point is 00:24:32 Cortland Sutton rest of season. The Rams are hopeful that Brandon Cooks could be back next week. Could be back. He won't necessarily be back, but you could see Brandon Cooks in week 12 as they get ready for the Bears this week. All right, we got an email today at fantasyfootball
Starting point is 00:24:47 at cbsi.com. It is from Wyatt. I just got offered Saquon Barkley for Melvin Gordon. My other running backs are Eckler and Josh Jacobs. So he is the Eckler owner. Would you trade away Melvin Gordon to get Saquon Barkley? Basically, who would you rather have rest of season between
Starting point is 00:25:03 these two? And they both have a bye. Barkley this week, Gordon nextquon Barkley. Basically, who would you rather have rest of season between these two? And they both have a buy. Barkley this week, Gordon next week. Barkley, it appears, does have significantly better matchups. But what do you think, Heath? Barkley or Gordon rest of season? I am not comfortable with this question. And this is the type of trade offer that I would receive and probably just not. Chris Towers says this a lot. I'd probably just not act. You would just let it sit there and be that guy who doesn't respond to trade offers? I don't want to decline this. I don't want to accept this.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You are making me uncomfortable, so I'm just going to leave it there. I think I'd rather have barkley but i don't know that i feel confident enough in that to make an actual deal ben let me throw this out there by the way um melvin gordon he has in six games he has four three two two three and one catch whereas barkley in his last four games since returning from the ankle injury has three, eight, six, and five catches. So maybe we could say well, we'll take Barkley in PPR. But
Starting point is 00:26:12 who's got a better chance of being shut down rest of season? I mean, there's no question it's Saquon Barkley there. So Ben, who would you take? Barkley or Gordon rest of season? I was going to say Barkley, but I think that for a lot of the reasons you said, I think that last point is really interesting though. I'm curious why you think they was going to say Barkley, but I think that, and for a lot of the reasons you said, I think that last point is really interesting, though. I'm curious why you think they're going to shut him down.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I don't know. I mean, obviously they're a two-win team, and he's the future of their franchise. So he's playing with a bad shoulder now and a bad ankle. I hope he's healthy after the bye. That gives me some hope. But yeah, I don't think he will get shut down, but I think between the two,
Starting point is 00:26:44 clearly he has a better chance of being shut well sure and he also has 29 yards on his last 27 carries yeah right right which is completely unsustainable like that's the kind of thing that you know we got to think about moving back towards some type of of media and he can we can we can acknowledge that he's going to be not necessarily great behind a bad offensive line but he's he's always been a little bit big play dependent the big plays haven't been there the last couple weeks they they were there you know a few weeks before that and in the passing game i think two weeks ago he had the long reception uh yeah he can still create plays i think he still
Starting point is 00:27:17 has a ton of upside and he gets enough catches that especially in ppr i think he has more upside than gordon um on a weekly basis because Gordon's still splitting with Eckler. I think Gordon's probably safer, but I would probably lean towards Barkley if I was confident he was going to play the rest of the year, but that's why I was interested in your comment that he might get shut down, but I would probably lean towards him for upside. Yeah, I mean, it's just a theory. It's nothing concrete.
Starting point is 00:27:39 If he has to sit there and talk about, well, look, if he has to sit there and talk about, I don't want to get shut down then you know that's obviously something that could happen if he's playing hurt you know for a pointless season uh as far as their offensive line goes they were they came into last week's game missing two starters they lost their left tackle at some point early in the game and nate sold her so they could be fully healthy and have a decent offensive line. Here's the last thing on this, and it's about Melvin Gordon. All right, so Melvin Gordon, he's facing the Chiefs this week.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That's great. And then the bye. But we all watched the Thursday night game, Gordon versus the Raiders, and I thought he was Superman, and I thought their offensive line was awful. And the Raiders were in the backfield for much of that game.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And in fact, that's why they won the game. They were all over Phillip Rivers. But Gordon was able to escape it. But I just, like, their offensive line is so bad. And he gets Denver, Jacksonville, Minnesota, and Oakland in his final four games in weeks 13 through 16. And it's just, you know, look, if he gets 20 carries, he's probably going to do fine. He gets the goal line work now. But just wanted to bring that up, guys, because their offensive line is
Starting point is 00:28:46 really bad. He was able to overcome it against the Raiders, but I don't know that you can expect that type of performance. I thought he was a superhero last Thursday. Just wanted to bring that up. Yeah, no. He looks great running the ball, but I think you make a great point.
Starting point is 00:29:02 We're at a point right now in their respective seasons, and in any player season, there's going to be some highs and lows where Barkley is coming off. What will almost certainly go down as, as his worst two game stretch of his entire season. And two weeks ago, Melvin Gordon looked like he was incapable of scoring fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I mean, he was having the same kind of issues with, with yards per carry and he wasn't able to get in on some goal line rushes. And then he kind of broke out two weeks ago and then had a great game again last week um yeah that was all very positive at that point but i would have said two weeks ago the same stuff i'm sitting here saying about barkley and i did i i wrote up melvin gordon before his first good game this year in my dfs article that week because i was like okay his workload is solid he's getting pass catches he's getting goal line work bark Barkley is too.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And I don't think you should overreact to this yards per carry. And also, Barkley, again, the big plays. They will come. Yeah. All right. Well, if you want to go see Saquon Barkley, good luck to you. Have fun with that. I'll stay inside because it's freaking cold out.
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Starting point is 00:31:20 I usually leave receivers off of this because some teams are better against number one receivers and bad against number two receivers. And I think quarterbacks and receivers, you can kind of lump them together but here we go here are quarterbacks who have multiple top five matchups in the fantasy postseason weeks 14 15 16 baker mayfield and nick foals and foals has three great matchups in his last four games and for this exercise by the way i am not using week 17 at all. So Mayfield and Foles to the best quarterback matchups in the postseason. Other teams with good matchups.
Starting point is 00:31:52 This is probably mostly for two quarterback leagues. Denver, Ryan Fitzpatrick from Miami, and Jameis Winston, Mason Rudolph, and Ryan Tannehill. Miami has such a great playoff schedule with the Jets, Giants, and Bengals,
Starting point is 00:32:10 and we can't use any of them. We can't use our running backs. It's possible Fitzpatrick is a streamer. Philadelphia, Jets, Giants, Bengals are his weeks 13 through 16. That's terrific. And if you are starting Fitzpatrick in a two-quarterback league, you might get a 20-point-per-game average, something like that.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Let's go back to Nick Foles because I think he can actually help people in a lot of leagues. I believe in, for the most part, this offensive system. I believe in the weapons that he has around him. And Jacksonville believes that he gives them a better chance to win than Gardner Minshew, who was a borderline top 12 quarterback. If you were telling me that Gardner Minshew was going to
Starting point is 00:32:57 play the Colts, the Titans, Tampa Bay, the Chargers, the Raiders, and the Falcons, I would tell you Gardner Minshew is going to be a top 12 quarterback rest of season. I think the same is probably true for Nick Foles. I agree with that. The only slight difference between the two is Foles is immobile. Gardner Minshew gave us a little bit of running, right? And it helped his floor a little bit. Foles is completely immobile. So his floors throughout the years has been lower. And that's kind of tough at quarterback. You want a decent floor. All right. Running backs. Nick Foles is, by the way, 37% owned. And Winston could be someone that really helps you out with Detroit and Houston in Week 15 and 16.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Running backs. Multiple top five matchups. Philip Lindsay, four of his last five matchups look great. Bills, Chargers, then the Texans, then the Chiefs, then the Lions. And the Patriots. The Patriots just have a great schedule coming up. I know Brady wasn't in that. Who was their running back? Yeah, well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's probably Michelle, but I don't know. But Philadelphia, Dallas, Houston, that's not necessarily great for the running backs. But then Kansas City, Cincinnati, and Buffalo in the fantasy postseason that's just can i just put beautiful your two comments together because adam is noting that this is an amazing fantasy schedule and heath is noting that we never know who the patriots are going to play
Starting point is 00:34:16 at running back stash these guys stash rex burkhead stash damian harris in deeper leagues if you can because that's an amazing playoff schedule if you get the lead back for the Patriots multiple weeks ahead of them getting an opportunity, that can be huge. And it's happened so many seasons where a Ben Jarvis Green Ellis has come out of nowhere. So if you have space in a deeper league, I would be stashing deep Patriot running backs. And let me tell you the running back that I would want to buy right now. Not low, but buy high and maybe overpay if you have to. And it's James Conner. Unless Jalen Samuels is going to carve out some type of role, but Samuels hasn't been very good. But look at Conner's next six matchups, like
Starting point is 00:34:57 beginning tomorrow against Cleveland. He's got the Browns twice, the Bengals, the Cardinals, the Bills, and then the Jets in Week 16, which so far, you know, they could be bad, but by then, who knows? His next five games, James Conner's next five games are against teams that rank 21st or worse against running backs. So he's got just an amazing schedule coming up.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Other running backs with good schedules, Dalvin Cook's got a great playoff schedule, so he's going to win everybody, their leagues, Detroit, the Chargers, and the Packers. David Montgomery, five of his last six matchups are good. Saquon Barkley's got a great playoff schedule, so he's going to win everybody, their leagues. Detroit, the Chargers, and the Packers. David Montgomery. Five of his last six matchups are good. Saquon Barkley's got a great playoff schedule. At least two of the games. Miami and Washington in weeks 15 and 16.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Cleveland's schedule is good for Nick Chubb. And Seattle's schedule looks pretty good. Actually, it's not good until weeks 15 and 16. They have a bye, then Philadelphia, Minnesota, and the Rams. That's a good run of defenses. I'm not sure it matters
Starting point is 00:35:49 with Carson, but just for what it's worth. David Montgomery, Nick Chubb, James Conner, Saquon Barkley, they could benefit from a very good matchup. And their backups. Last year, we saw Damian Williams, Jalen samuels justin jackson
Starting point is 00:36:06 all be very viable uh viable fantasy playoff running back so that's something i would note as well as i mean same thing as i just said with new england any of these good scheduled teams consider their backups and tight ends oh man it doesn't get any better than trey burton i think he has three matchups against teams that are among the five worst against tight ends. Three top five matchups for Trey Burton. Pick him up, everyone. I know, I know. It's such a shame.
Starting point is 00:36:33 The big takeaway is Gerald Everett. His last four games. If you play into Week 17, Gerald Everett's got five, four great matchups. Arizona twice, Seattle and Dallas, and then San Francisco, who's first against tight ends but hasn't faced any good ones, really. In fact, they just gave up a touchdown to Hollister. But they're still number one. Everett's a guy I wrote a little bit about in Stealing Signals.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Since his first good game, I think week three or week four, whenever it was where he kind of had that first blow-up game, he's had some booms, some busts.5 targets though over that span and we look at other players wide receivers that we trust more they have boom and bust games but that average over that span 7.5 targets five catches and he's sixth overall at tight end and air yards over that span so his volume it's been up and down it's been really high some weeks really low some It seems to be higher on the road. I don't know if there's anything to that. His last two home games have been worse. His road games, he's been getting 10 targets. But yeah, you talk about a good schedule that it makes him really even more interesting for me at tight end.
Starting point is 00:37:38 On the flip side of this discussion, one team, I guess I'm a little bit worried about, but mostly their quarterback who has been awesome who i'm trying to sell high this week is dac prescott um after they play the lions this week he is at new england faces the bills at home at the bears faces the rams at home the vikings though make you think well they're no because they're not that good against the pass I'm sorry to say it right yeah they're not as good as as your quarterback stat yeah they're not they're just not as good
Starting point is 00:38:12 and their receivers crushed them all three of the receivers are the ones that is the Vikings cornerbacks with their weakness again it's unbelievable right yeah all right I'd like to replace I think Nick Foles is probably better than Dak Prescott rest of but neither will be as good as Trey Burton all right let's do I'm like to replace. I think Nick Foles is probably better than Dak Prescott. But neither will be as good as Trey Burton. All right, let's do.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I'm going to do this. I'm going to go three Apple podcast questions here. Thank you for submitting them. I'm going to give these to Ben. We're going to do these real quick. Then we're going to preview the Thursday night game. And then we're going to play some Jeopardy. Then we're going to kick Heath off and bring in Ben Schrager.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Apple podcast questions from B Rose. Brian Hill or Carlos Hyde rest of season in PPR? I'm more worried about the playoffs than this week. Brian Hill or Carlos Hyde PPR? I don't know how their schedule is right in front of me. I would look at that, but I would say Hill for just inherent upside. Hyde's role in PPR is not good.
Starting point is 00:39:02 He's a trap back that we have seen not have a ceiling, and you're not going to want to start that in the playoff. Hill has potential to get catches. But Hill has the potential to not get any work if Freeman's back, right? Sure. I just think, yeah, higher upside. I would agree. I mean, Hyde doesn't—
Starting point is 00:39:18 Hill would be better if Freeman were out. I just don't know what happens if Freeman's in. It's a tough question. It's a tough question. It's a tough question. It depends on Freeman. From Kits. I actually haven't seen much on Freeman's Injuries. Where are we at on that?
Starting point is 00:39:32 Two weeks was the timetable. Roughly two weeks. So then probably Hyde. From Kits. I lost Hooper. Should I pick up Dallas Goddard, OJ Howard, Darren Fels, or Noah Fant? What do you think, Ben? Goddard, OJ Howard, Darren Fels, or Noah Fant. What do you think, Ben? Goddard, Howard, Fels, or Fant?
Starting point is 00:39:50 I'd go Howard or... I'd probably go Howard or Fels. Or, I mean, yeah. They're all upside tight end plays. It's tough. Goddard, I like his role to expand with Deshaun Jackson definitely out the rest... Or to stay expanded.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But I probably wouldn't take him because he's the number two tight end on his own team bells has been getting pretty consistent work vant has you know late season upside i still i still believe in oj howard's talent and i'd probably go howard i like vant quite a bit it's only two weeks but since emmanuel sanders was traded he's seen 25 of the broncos targets oh all right good yeah he's got a lot of upside his role's been there all year, too. I mean, his routes have been there all year. I could definitely see taking him. From Rizla, you guys, you just tell me how quickly we should kick this commissioner out of the league.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I made a trade before Week 9. I gave up Juju for Kyler Murray. The rules of the league were that trades can only be vetoed by league votes. The league commissioner, who's seven and two, didn't think the trade was fair, so he changed the rules of the league to commissioner vote, and he vetoed the trade. I tried calling and texting the commissioner,
Starting point is 00:40:54 and I got no response. Because of the veto, I was forced to start Brian Hoyer instead of Kyler Murray in week 10, and I lost because of it. Wow. Blow the whole thing up. Yeah, that's terrible. If closely you haven't paid yet and I would just walk away.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I would never speak to him again. I would like I'm not an advocate for sabotage. You should sabotage. Drop all your players if you want to create chaos. It is this commissioner's fault. Unless the commissioner listens to this podcast, in which case I'm sure he had a great reason to do what he did thursday night is pittsburgh at cleveland i've got two stats of the game here's the stat of the game that people probably won't care about vance mcdonald
Starting point is 00:41:36 has had seven targets in two straight games and there have been four tight ends with six to eight targets against the browns and all four of them had either 55 yards or a touchdown. Heath, do you think people will care about that? Do you care about that? He's a fine streaming tight end, and people should care about that. Tight end's terrible. Vance McDonald is in play.
Starting point is 00:41:55 OJ Howard or Vance McDonald? I'll go Howard and non-PPR and Vance and PPR. Okay, here's the stat of the game that people probably will care about. If you look at Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry, on a per-game basis, Landry's 35th in non-PPR and 30th in PPR. Beckham is 42nd in non-PPR and 36th in PPR. So let's just say they're both number three receivers so far. Beckham, number four in non-PPR. They're on pace for almost the exact same season.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Almost the same amount of targets within two catches within like 35 yards. Landry's got on pace for two more touchdowns than Odell Beckham. But I just thought that was weird. It was like identical a week ago and then Landry had a better game this past
Starting point is 00:42:42 I tweeted it out a week ago and they were like almost exactly identical. And then Landry had a better game this past, I tweeted it out a week ago and they were like almost exactly identical. And then Landry had a better game this past week and now it looks like his pace is a little bit better because he scored as well. They had the same one touchdown, same exact amount of targets, I believe, a week ago. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm actually encouraged since the bye, they have, and one of the things I was worried about, we talked about it with Beckham a lot, was the target share and how Freddie Kitchen's offense had really spread the ball around to a variety of different pass catchers in a lot of unpredictable ways. Since the bye, they've really consolidated things. Landry and Beckham account for like 52% of the Browns' targets. And even last week when Kareem Hunt showed up and got nine targets, they had 22 targets between the two of them. I did look at them after what you said, my projections. I have lowered Beckham and Landry a little bit because one of the problems was using the Steelers full season defense statistics. They don't look like a downgrade for anyone. But if you use just with Mika Fitzpatrick, then they are definitely a downgrade. I still am starting Beckham as a top 20 wide receiver. I still think Landry is a fine low end number two.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I'm encouraged by their volume the last three weeks, and I just don't believe that Odell Beckham is not going to have a big game. It's coming very soon. Okay, so you wouldn't get cute and start like Philip Dorsett over them? No. Beckham had a season high in air yards last week,
Starting point is 00:44:06 and I totally agree with Heath that it's been a more concentrated pass game. He had to go up against Tredavious White with the Bills last week, which was a really tough matchup, but they continued to pipe targets to him. I think he's going to potentially have a really good game as well. Well, it's tough because he's had three really tough matchups in a row. He's had New England, Denver, and Buffalo, and he only had one solid game. It wasn't even that great.
Starting point is 00:44:26 But Pittsburgh doesn't appear to be that good of a matchup either. Their last seven games, there's only been two receivers with more than 55 yards. They haven't faced the toughest competition. I don't know that they have a cornerback really up to par with what he saw from the other three teams. Maybe Joe Hayden, but I'm not sure Hayden's going to follow Beckham or something like that. I might be forgetting their best corner. I apologize. But would you start,
Starting point is 00:44:51 let's say Devin Singletary's at Miami. Would you start him or Beckham? Heath, what do you got? I would play Beckham. I would play Singletary. But I like Singletary a lot this week. Okay. So, let's just...
Starting point is 00:45:09 We're sitting the quarterbacks. They're, you know, between like 18 and 20 for Dave, Jamie, and Heath. The running backs... Who's the best running back in this game? Great question. Chubb. Chubb. Okay, because again, I mean, the Steel steward's defense is really good in case you haven't heard but chubb will get his work and what was so promising about chubb last week though was
Starting point is 00:45:36 that they used uh hunt on the field with chubb so much right and i'm sure you know you guys talked about this a little bit on the other shows but they use hunt as a lead blocker for chubb uh on eight carries and that was 81 of chubb's rush attempts and chubb still ran routes on like 60 percent of of dropbacks which was actually a bump up from his last two games since the buy it was similar to what he'd been running routes uh the rates that he'd been running routes prior to the buy he basically had his full normal workload and he caught a few passes. Hunt caught a ton of passes. But they used Hunt as like an Alvin Kamara alongside Chubb
Starting point is 00:46:10 as opposed to, you know, spelling Chubb. I think, I mean, Conor should have a really big game. This is a terrible run defense. So you're going to start Chubb. You're going to start Conor. Are you going to start Juju Smith-Schuster, Heath? I don't really want to but i think he's a number three wide receiver it's just like it's i don't really have a lot of doubts about juju smith schuster i don't think we were wrong about him being very good but mason rudolph
Starting point is 00:46:40 is just not like somebody's in tight coverage he's's just going to throw it to somebody else. He's got three receivers that he feels fine with. And the targets haven't been there. Yeah. So he's in a tight end. Heath is slightly the lowest on Juju because Dave and Jamie have him between 25 and 30. Heath has him 33rd and non PPR 38th in PPR. And this is what it comes down to. When,
Starting point is 00:47:00 when Juju Smith Schuster has had seven to nine targets, he's had a good game almost every time when he's had four to nine targets, he's had a good game almost every time. When he's had four to six targets, he's had a bad game every time. It also sort of coincides with the matchups, but it's mostly about the targets. Is he going to get them? We don't know. If you don't love Juju Smith-Schuster, I doubt you could really love Deontay
Starting point is 00:47:18 Johnson or James Washington, but if you were going to take a flyer on one of those two receivers, who would it be? Washington's really coming on strong lately. I'd still go Johnson. Okay. But they're very close. And that's the issue.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I mean, Washington coming on strong, I mean, you got three good receivers in a bad passing game. I have Juju in a bunch of leagues. I'm sitting him. Okay. So Kareem Hunt or Juju? Juju. I would probably play Hunt. What do you expectem Hunt or Juju? Juju.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I would probably play Hunt. What do you expect from Hunt this week, Heath? Eight to ten touches. I don't think he's probably going to get nine targets on a weekly basis. So, that'll come back a little bit. But, yeah, I've got him for, you know, 40-ish yards, and you hope he scores a touchdown. All right, and Heath is a little bit low on the Steelers' DST. Got him 15th. Dave and Jamie have him top 10.
Starting point is 00:48:13 They're the number three DST. And Adam has them. Yeah, they're awesome, man. Adam has them, number one. Just look at their personnel. Like, they are really, really good. Who's the best defense in football i think it's the niners pats patriot but they don't have a good run defense the patriots and niners are
Starting point is 00:48:35 pretty clearly on their own tier i don't know man like the steelers are and i i don't like defenses as much on the road either okay Okay. Short week on the road. You should. Yeah. All right. Well, I think it's time for some Jeopardy. How do you guys feel? You feel good about it?
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Starting point is 00:50:30 Famous Benz. All of the categories are 200, 400, and 600. I don't think we're going to have time to finish the game, so let's go as fast as we can. Ben, I will give you control of the board. Quarterbacks, running backs, pass catchers, or famous Ben's for two, four, or 600? Let's go famous Ben's for 200.
Starting point is 00:50:49 All right. During the 90s, this Ben met World every week on ABC. Boy Meets World? No? Yeah. What's his last name? Oh, Ben. I say my name because it goes in, right?
Starting point is 00:51:05 Yes, exactly. Go ahead. Who is Ben Savage? Hey, Ben gets it. 200 points. All right. Good job. Who is Ben Savage? This is very helpful to people. The board is yours. Let's go to pass catchers for 200. He leads all tight ends in receiving yards with more than 100 more than anyone else.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Heath. Heath. Heath. Austin Hooper. That is incorrect. Ben. Ben. Sorry, that was for Heath. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It was Darren Waller? Who's Travis Kelsey? Heard of him? Come on now. All right, Ben, the board is still yours. You have a 200-point lead. Let's do pass catchers for 600. The amount of catches Michael Thomas is on pace for within five.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Heath. Heath. 160. Ben, 150. Oh, judges? The answer is 153. You were within five. You did not use the form of a question.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You do not get the points. I thought judges because I was like six away, but it was because I didn't use the form of a question. The board is still yours, Ben. All right, receivers. Pass catchers. 400. Pass catchers. Pass catchers. 400. Pass catchers.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Pass catchers. This week, not like this current week, this was the week that both Keenan Allen and Julio Jones last caught a touchdown. Ben.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Heath. Ben. What is week three? That is correct. For 400. You are crushing it right now. 600 is correct. For 400. You are crushing it right now. 600 to nothing. You knew that one?
Starting point is 00:52:50 Well. All right. I was kind of guessing. I knew it was in that two to four range, but I was just guessing. The board is yours. Quarterbacks, running backs, and famous Ben's. Let's go running backs for 600. There are two running backs who are top 12 in PPR on a per game
Starting point is 00:53:05 basis with less than 25 catches. Derrick Henry and this guy. Ben. Ben. Who's Mark Ingram? That is incorrect. Just missed it. We got to know the trap backs. Come on.
Starting point is 00:53:22 How did I not know that? Heath? No guess? All right. Heath. No. Fine. What do you mean? Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Go ahead. I don't actually know the answer, but I'll say Nick Chubb. Who is Josh Jacobs? Josh Jacobs. Oh. Board's still yours with a 200-point lead. So Ingram's not in the top 12? He's like 13th.
Starting point is 00:53:43 He's like right there. Got it. Yeah. Running backs for whatever I haven't like 13th. He's like right there. Got it. Yeah. Running backs for whatever I haven't said so far. 600 or something. 400. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:58 This NFC North running back has the second most carries inside the five yard line and 92%. Ben? Who is David Montgomery? Ben Gretsch is crushing it. 1,000 to nothing. And the board is yours. Running backs for 200. Okay. He leads all running backs in touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Ben. Ben. Who is Mark Ingram? Hey. Incorrect. Heath? Heath. Mark Ingram's close.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Yeah. Who is Delvin Cook? Two answers here. Christian McCaffrey and Aaron Jones. It's Christian McCaffrey. I realized after I said Mark Jacobs. I was like, oh, man. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:33 We got quarterbacks. Why not famous Ben's? What's wrong with you? Quarterbacks for how many? All right. Fine. Famous Ben's for six. Famous Ben's for 600.
Starting point is 00:54:42 With the help of Jimmy Kimmelmel this brilliant Ben would let contestants win his money on Comedy Central Heath Ben Heath Ben Stein hey he's on the board oh he didn't say who is at first I did say it I don't know I'm gonna tell Ben Trager Ben's for 400 oh fine fine uh it counts. Famous Ben's for 400. Fine, fine. It counts. Famous Ben's for 400. The answer there is your daily double. You've got 600. How much would you like to wager?
Starting point is 00:55:16 401. Okay. When he's not busy chasing Amy, this Ben can be seen battling Superman. Yeah. That's bad for me. Like movies,
Starting point is 00:55:33 actors, no. Who is Ben Affleck? You got it! Nice! She pulled it out of his eye. Alright, listen. The score right now is 1,001 to 1,000. Apologies to the video crew. We're going to go one minute long here.
Starting point is 00:55:51 We've got just running. What do we have? We have quarterbacks, and that's it. Quarterbacks are left. Go ahead, Heath. Quarterbacks for what? For two, four, and six. Quarterbacks for 600.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Despite throwing just five interceptions this season, this veteran quarterback actually has more interceptions than rushing yards. Ben, Ben, who is Phillip rivers? Heath, Heath, who is drew breeze?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Who is Tom Brady? 200 and 400 Heath board is Tom Brady? 200 and 400. Heath, board is yours. Let's go 400, I guess. Currently top five in fantasy points per game. This quarterback is second in the NFL in passing yards behind only Phillip Rivers. Heath? Heath.
Starting point is 00:56:40 That's your name. That is my name. Crap, he missed a game. I'm still going to say it. Matt Ryan. Who is Matt Ryan? No. Ben.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Ben, I'll say, who is Dak Prescott? That is correct. Ben takes the lead and wins the game. And the quarterback for 200. I'm glad we had overtime until Ben took the lead. No, there's only 200 points left. He's winning by 399. You know what?
Starting point is 00:57:13 You shouldn't have even gotten credit for that first one. You didn't even say who is. All right, thanks for playing Fantasy Jeopardy. I didn't get my who is on the other question. You didn't give me points for it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Wait, I did or I didn't give you points? You didn't for the Michael Thomas other question. You didn't give me points for it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Wait, I did or didn't give you points? You didn't for the Michael Thomas 150 question.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So Heath was lucky to even be in it in the first place. Thanks for playing Fantasy Jeopardy. We'll be right back with Ben Schrager and your tweets. Again? Attack of the Bens. We got two Bens on the show right now. You know Ben Gretsch, whatever. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:57:48 Ben Schrager is here. He is our producer, social media dude. I don't know. He does a lot of things. He has taken this podcast to new heights, and we appreciate it. And he finally gets to be on the show. It's long overdue. What's up, Ben Schrager?
Starting point is 00:58:04 What's up, guys? Great to be here. Yeah. It is long overdue. What's up, Ben Schrager? What's up, guys? Great to be here. Yeah, it is great for you to be here. I agree. I forgot to ask Ben Gretch and Heath about Cortland Sutton. I had promised to do that. And I will do that. We're going to read some tweets as well, some kind of rapid-fire tweets.
Starting point is 00:58:21 But, Ben, tell us a little bit about yourself, man. I just started as a producer here in August. Love fantasy football. Been doing fantasy stuff for six years with analysis and on Twitter. And I just love working with the Fantasy Football Today team and excited to be here with Ben Gretsch. Yes. Yeah, Adam, you're going to have to go to last names, man. I know. You just told Ben to talk about himself. I was like, yeah, you know going to have to go to last names, man. I know. You just told Ben to talk about himself, but I was like, yeah, I can talk about myself. I think it's, we know everything we need to know about you.
Starting point is 00:58:49 You don't know any pop culture, you hate chocolate, and you like ADOT. So, Cortland Sutton, how much do you think we can trust Cortland Sutton the rest of the season? I did mention that the Denver quarterbacks have good matchups. What does that mean for Cortland Sutton?
Starting point is 00:59:05 Minnesota this week, then Buffalo. That's not easy. Chargers, that's not easy. And, you know, it gets a little better after that, I suppose. But, yeah, Ben Gretch, we'll start with you. Cortland Sutton, how much do you trust him rest of season? He's in a tough bucket of players that I really like their role. I like their talent and their number ones.
Starting point is 00:59:29 They don't have great quarterback situations. He's not too dissimilar from Terry McLaurin. He's not too dissimilar from Juju doesn't really have the same wide receiver one volume. He's not necessarily another guy having that in that bucket. But Allen Robinson is another guy probably throwing that bucket. Mitchell Trubisky has been so inconsistent. It all is tied to whether Brandon Allen or Drew Locke can be good enough quarterbacks. I want to trust Sutton. I want him on my roster, and I will use him if I can see decent enough quarterback play to support a number one receiver, because I think if anyone is going to be good in this
Starting point is 00:59:59 passing game, it's definitely going to be Sutton. Okay.ger or shraggy do as i like to call him he does not like that nickname it is a sort of scooby-doo nickname uh because they had you know scrappy and shaggy but anyway ben schrager uh how much do you trust ronald jones going forward it's like a six on the trust-o-meter youMeter. Trust-O-Meter. We've seen him share with Peyton Barber. We've seen the coaches, despite Ronald Jones running better, continue to go to Peyton Barber. And we thought Ronald Jones
Starting point is 01:00:32 was going to have that breakout after two weeks ago, having an awesome game. He fumbles and Peyton Barber ends up getting most of the work for the rest of the game in week 10. I love Ronald Jones as a player. I think it's probably going to be a pretty even split
Starting point is 01:00:46 with Peyton Barber the rest of the way. I know Ben Gretsch may not agree there, but it's just a matter of the coaching staff trusting Peyton Barber for whatever reason. I'm a little worried about Ronald Jones. Okay, let's go through the rapid-fire tweets here. This is from Russell. Can we ever trust starting Tyrell Williams again?
Starting point is 01:01:03 He's got the Bengals this week, so this will be a good week to do it. And then the Jets. He's still their number one. They just have other options in the pass game now. So it's a little bit less concentrated of a pass game, but with him and Waller as the main guys, there's other dudes now, but he's still their number one.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Trust is a tough word. He hasn't gone over three receptions since week two. You're just hoping for a touchdown, and he's still their red zone guy. He's still their number one wide receiver. Do you have a nickname, by the way, that people that you like? Shrag? Shrag?
Starting point is 01:01:31 No, we can do better than that. You can come up with a better one. Okay, that's your assignment, listeners. What is Ben Schrager's nickname? And by the way, if you've been participating in our hashtag AskFFT on Twitter, that is all Ben Schrager.
Starting point is 01:01:45 He put that together and it helps us answer. So hundreds of your questions throughout the weekend from Brock, who is the first quarterback off the board in 2020 drafts? Yeah, I love this question. I mean, it's, it's a fun debate.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I think Joe Burrow is probably the guy he's been really good. Oh, I think this is 2020 fantasy quarterbacks. Oh, I thought we were talking about who would be the top. Like, uh, that's also, I thought we were shifting the dynasty right now. You know, I want to start talking to some, some college. Oh, first quarterback next year is going to be my homes. That's my guess.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Maybe Lamar, but I'd say my homes. Yeah, I'm with you. It's my homes. Unless Lamar does something over the next six, seven weeks and into the playoffs or every single week he's going off, I still think it's Mahomes. I wonder in four-point-per-pass and touchdown leagues if it's Jackson. I think it might be. Yeah, the rushing floor definitely puts him in that consideration.
Starting point is 01:02:35 He'll be a top-three guy. I think it's Daniel Jones. All right, this is from Brady. Is Melvin Gordon in RB1 rest of season? Yeah, borderline, low end, yeah. Gordon and RB1 rest of season? Yeah. Borderline. Low end, yeah. I think yes.
Starting point is 01:02:51 He has one tough matchup against the Vikings in that fantasy playoff week 15 range. But otherwise, he's going to get the 15 to 20 plus touch workload. And he's actually looked good in the last game and a half. So who would you rather have, Aaron Jones or Melvin Gordon? I'm taking Gordon. I would too. Okay. From Michael, am I crazy to start three 49ers?
Starting point is 01:03:13 Marquise Goodwin, Raheem Mostert, and Debo Samuel this week. If my only other options are Duke Johnson and Devante Parker in tough matchups. Parker getting the Bills and the Texans. Who the heck are the Texans playing this week? Oh, the Ravens. So, yeah, that is a tough matchup for Duke. Yeah, so that is crazy. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah, don't play. I mean, you don't want to play Parker against Tredavious White, but, I mean, you're not playing Goodwin and Mostert. Those guys are such depth players. See, I would actually take Mostert over Duke Johnson if Breida doesn't play. Yeah, I'm cool with that. Right, I think it's Goodwin is the big issue I have.
Starting point is 01:03:52 If Devontae Parker's going to get your Davis way, and Parker had a good game against the Bills last time, but Preston Williams was there. But if Debo Samuel is the number one option, if Sanders and Kittle are out, I think you could start Debo over Parker, and you could start Mostert. If Bre out and if all the if everybody's injured basically yeah you could do most certain Debo over Duke and Parker I guess but Goodwin is no you're starting
Starting point is 01:04:16 Parker he's getting the volume all right but Tredavious White's very good Ben so like if you'd start Parker over Debo Samuel if both Kittle and Sanders are out? No, I'm starting Parker over Goodwin. I'm still starting Debo over Parker. Okay, from VFL News, is it time to drop Miles Sanders? No. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:38 This week, who would you rather have, the Patriots DST or the Raiders DST? Patriots have Philadelphia, and Oakland has the Bengals. Give me the Raiders. Oh, my goodness. Against Ryan Finley, there's so much upside there. I'll take the Pats. I think they're going to do pretty well against the Eagles. It's a coin flip.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Yeah, I mean, I love playing against the opposing quarterback. I think you could make a case for the Raiders. I'd probably take the Pats. There's just such a difference in talent level. Let's see who the guys have ranked higher here. DST rankings. I'll tell you in one moment. All right, next tweet is from...
Starting point is 01:05:15 Who's it from? It's from Havy. What's more important, player skill situation or fantasy schedule? Player skill situation, not schedule player skill situation not close not debatable definitely yeah from will hold or sell odell beckham jr if you can get value you can definitely sell them but you're probably not going to get value i think he's a hold i think he's definitely whole if you can get past the next two out of the three weeks against Pittsburgh, his schedule is juicy for the fantasy playoffs with Cincinnati and the Cardinals.
Starting point is 01:05:51 All right, let's see. The Patriots are eighth for Jamie. The Raiders are 11th. The Patriots are eighth for Dave. The Raiders are fifth. The Patriots are ninth for Heath. The Raiders are 11th, so it's close. A couple more tweets here.
Starting point is 01:06:05 We'll end the show. From Ricky, any reason not to drop Duke Johnson? If you're forced to start him this week, I wouldn't drop him. Otherwise, he's very droppable. Yep, I agree. From Purple Hydra,
Starting point is 01:06:18 is AJ Green worth stashing for the fantasy playoffs? If you're in a 30-person league, 25, I mean, it would have to be a deep league, but yeah, I mean, or if you have IR spots, there's like, yeah, possibilities that he comes back. I'm not stashing him in anything shallow at all. I just got him for two bucks in our podcast league.
Starting point is 01:06:39 He was a free agent. So that's a 14-team PPR league. That's fine. You'd rather have him than kill Harry or Chris Conley. But beyond that... I would take Harry over him, but I would not take Conley over him. I dropped Jared Goff
Starting point is 01:06:53 for him, which brings us to our last question. Is there any hope for a good Goff? Yeah. Sure. What does a good Goff mean for fantasy, though? I'm not that hopeful at this point like coming out of the buy i was hoping that they would do better things and i know he doesn't have a great schedule going forward and he's down two offensive linemen now and he just hasn't looked good there's always hope it's the rams but uh and when he was at his best in fantasy,
Starting point is 01:07:27 he was throwing a lot of passes and for a lot of yards because he's another guy. I mentioned it with Foles earlier in the show. He's immobile. He's not going to get you really any rushing at all. So he has to be like a 300-yard passer, multiple TD guy. And they used to be that as an offense. But, yeah, I mean, I could definitely see cutting him and just moving on.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I don't know. If you're starting him every week you're probably not even worried about your team at this point I'd rather stream guys every week except for his Cardinals matchup thank you very much to Ben Schrager and to Ben Gretsch and to Heath Cummings and to all of you for listening back start or sit for the AFC home games.

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