Fantasy Football Today - 11/14: Start or Sit (AFC) and Players Who Need to "Prove it" This Week (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 14, 2019

Adam tries to institute a rule for all Fantasy leagues but it doesn't go over well. But then we talk Start or Sit! We give you our Tullamore Dew Players of the Week (3:30) as Brian Hill takes center stage ... Stats to know for Week 11 (9:15): Where Joe Mixon can succeed against OAK, Marlon Mack's PPR value, Courtland Sutton's great matchup and more. Then we tell you who needs to "Prove it" this week (15:15), run through the news and notes, have some Sixty Second Rankings Disputes (22:22) on Noah Fant, Derek Carr, Odell Beckham and more. Then it's "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" (28:40) ... HOU-BAL (34:00), KC-LAC (42:40), JAC-IND (48:30), DEN-MIN (55:15), NE-PHI (1:01:10), CIN-OAK (1:08:00), BUF-MIA (1:12:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to the Thursday show. It is November 14th. We're getting ready for Fantasy Week 11. All right, we got the AFC home games. There just weren't that many of them, so we borrowed a couple of NFC home games today. But we got some good games to talk about.

The Houston Texans and the Baltimore Ravens. We got the Chiefs and the Chargers. We got the game that everybody's talking about. The Bills versus the Dolphins. Kalen Balazs and Devin Singletary. We've got the game that everybody's talking about, the Bills versus the Dolphins. Kalen Balazs and Devin Singletary. We're actually excited about one of those two running backs. Welcome to the show, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

How are we doing today? What's up, Adam? Good to hear your voice and good to get into Week 11. We are getting close to the Fantasy Playoffs. How about that? I know. Hitting you over the head. It's crunch time.

For sure. Three weeks away. These wins matter. These games matter a lot. I, too, am you over the head. It's crunch time. For sure. Three weeks away, these wins matter. These games matter a lot. I, too, am excited for Week 11. Not that excited to hear your voice, but Week 11 should be great. I don't have to talk that much. Okay, let's institute a rule before we get into start or sit. So we don't have to do any regulation.

Okay? Agree or disagree with this rule. If you are eliminated from the postseason, you cannot make the playoffs. You are not allowed to make any trades unless you're in a keeper league. I think that's a fair rule. The problem is that people are going to think just because you have six or seven losses that you're automatically

out of it. You're probably out of it, but I think you can make it at six and seven. What if it's a fair trade that you need somebody to start to beat a team that could be in playoffs? Nope. You can't do it. You're not in playoff contention.

If you are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, you cannot make a trade. Right, but what if you win the trade? You can't do it. I'm sorry. You cannot do it. What if you trade Terry McLaurin for Jamal Williams? Who do you think won that trade? Do you think I'm regretting not having Jamal Williams?

I'm sorry. I don't know. I was just thinking of a bad trade you made recently. That was kind of won that trade? Like, I'm regretting not having Jamal Williams. I'm sorry. I don't know. I was just thinking of a bad trade you made recently. That was kind of a bad trade. A couple of them. No, but I think it's a very, I think it's a valid rule.

You have to be mathematically eliminated. Not like probably eliminated, but completely eliminated from the playoffs and you cannot make any choices. Who's doing that math? Well, that's the tough part, I guess. You basically have to be

the last place team with like one or two wins that's it fine maybe it's probably easier starting next week okay do we agree can we institute the rule can we make it a fantasy rule we don't have a method for determining who's mathematically eliminated yet well you'd actually actually you'd have to do the math all right so you're the show ends uh in about an hour. I'm going to go talk to all of our production people that run all of our leagues. You're going to be in charge of going through every single CBSSports.com league and determining who's in and who's out.

Who's going to be in charge of checking his math? Andrew. Oh, yeah. That'll work. All right. Well, I guess we're not instituting that rule, but I recommend it for all of your leagues. Here are some players that we're recommending this week.

It is Tellemore Dew time. Game time. Telly time. The player of the week presented by Tellemore Dew. Dave, Jamie, and Heath are going to select a player who they think can surprise us in week 11. All right, Dave. It's Telly time. What do you got?

I think we can go back to back with Jared Cook. I think he can step up and have another good week good matchup against tampa bay you saw the targets in the season high and catches in yards last week he's basically working as the number two receiver for new orleans and they're gonna have to throw against tampa bay so i feel really good about jared cook being a must start weird saying it after the way he began this season, but I think he's there. Okay, Jared Cook it is. I think you guys have him in your top five, right?

Six, I believe. Jamie, it's tally time. What do you got? Phillip Dorsett, I think he's due. Good matchup against the Eagles. We'll see if their secondary continues to play better, but they've still allowed five touchdowns to receivers in the last four games. Two receivers in that span going over 100 yards.

And you know what this Patriots receiving core is. It's, you know, two guys that really operate on the inside of the field in terms of Edelman and Mohamed Sanu. And I think both are certainly worth starting, clearly more so Edelman than Sanu. But Dorsett, I hope they'll take some shots to him down the field. And he was bottled up in their last game against Baltimore, understandably so because of that secondary. But I think this is an opportunity for Brady to take some shots. And I think Dorsett has a chance to be a number three receiver for him.

Who do you like better between Sanu and Dorsett? Format specific. Okay, so non-PPR, you'll take Dorsett. Okay. Yeah. Now, this is an emphasis on players who could surprise you, okay? Because we don't have Dorsett in our top 30. I don't know, maybe in non-PPR. But in PPR, we don't. And againet in our top 30 um i don't know maybe a non-ppr but

in ppr we don't and uh it's again it's not a must-start player would you start philip dorset or davante parker against the bills i would start dorset i'll go parker he parker parker all right heath who's your telemore do player of the week Is it too obvious to say Brian Hill? Like the guys, the waiver wire pickups. I think he's going to be a top 12 running back this week. I would start him over David Johnson, over Todd Gurley, over a lot of guys you drafted in the first two or three rounds of drafts. I expect him to get 15 to 20 touches against one of the best matchups, regardless of position in fantasy football.

They've allowed, I know I said this the other day, they've allowed 13 touchdowns to running backs in their last five games. It's ridiculous. 11 of them on the ground, right? Yes. Yeah. So he passes the eyeball test. For a guy that's 6'1 and about 210, he's got good speed to the edge,

love the way he can pick up a couple extra yards on his carries, fall forward. He could actually be a pretty good find for the Falcons. Yeah, the problem is they can't run against anyone. So the thing is, like, I think he's – you think Brian Hill is more likely or less – more likely to score on the ground or with a catch? What do you think? I think he scored – I don't think these yards are going to be great.

Yards per carry certainly is not going to be great. But this is a volume-based opportunity against a team that just gives up a lot of touchdowns. So I don't think it's going to be a pretty performance. Like it's not going to be aesthetically pleasing to your eye. But it's going to be, I think I said it the other day, if you just take the receiving touchdown, put it in the rushing number 20 for 60 in that range, 20 total touches, you know, 65, 75 total yards i think he scores you know so you'll be happy with it for sure and they haven't played carolina yet so we don't know if they can't run

on anybody like they haven't played carolina they haven't played since i'm gonna guess they can't run on anybody i think they can run on carolina i think carolina's schemes just set it up to where it's just like they are taking away the pass getting after the quarterback and leaving wide lanes for running backs to run through yep and, and their offensive line is getting healthier, so it's a plus for Atlanta. Yeah, this is probably the best matchup they've had. You look at Devontae Freeman and just his game log. He's faced Minnesota, Philadelphia, the Colts, the Titans, the Texans, the Cardinals, the Rams, the Seahawks, and the Saints.

Most of those teams, very good against the run. All right, so Brian Hill, to wrap it up, since he was the hot waiver wire pickup, who are some guys you would start him over? Would you start Brian Hill over Odell Beckham tonight? Yes. Yeah. And I like Odell Beckham. You sure do.

He'll be in our 60-second rankings dispute, which will take four minutes. Who else? Devin Singletary or Brian Hill? Singletary. Singletary. I have Hill higher in PPR, Singletary or brian hill singletary singletary i have hill higher in ppr singletary higher none but i think like we didn't see hill catch very many passes last week i still think he's going to because of the way they've run their offense and what he did in college but he didn't do it it's also i think depending on game flow too because they were playing with a

lead which is rare for them right but i am a little bit worried that Kenyon Barner could slide into that role. They're going to use another running back. There won't be just one guy, but Hill will be the lead guy. Devontae Freeman did have three catches in that game last week, and that's what he's made his mark with this year. Okay. Some things to promote for you here. We've got our Apple Podcast mailbag show.

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And you can get yourself a nice little FFT t-shirt. All right, some stats to know for this week. Marlon Mack is facing the Jaguars. You guys like him this week? Yes. Like, don't love.

Yeah, I like him more in non-PBR. I love him in non-ppr i like him in ppr there are some stats that are you know actionable as we say and then there are just some stats that are probably not but he has five games without a rushing touchdown or any touchdown and in those five games he scored double digit fantasy points in ppr only once so what does that mean well in week nine 30 running backs scored double-digit PPR fantasy points. In week 10, with six teams on a bye, 20 running backs scored 10 or more fantasy points in PPR.

So when Mack doesn't score, he's not very good. He's a bore. He makes your roster snore. Do you feel like you've been right on him? I don't know. I mean, because this was your concern, was that he wasn't going to catch the ball. Right. I don't know, because he's been good enough that it hasn't mattered.

I know that was one of your concerns, was that the receiving numbers. But I know it was also health, too. Right. We've seen volume backs do well against Jacksonville this year. Yeah, I mean, you're not benching him with four teams on a bye. Right. No Freeman and no Breida, for example, backup that you could use. this year yeah i mean you're not benching him with four teams on a buy and you know no freeman and you know no burrito for example if the backup that you could use the touchdown thing is weird

but it's kind of a two-year trend for them they had 39 passing touchdowns and 12 rushing touchdowns last year and you might say well that's andrew luck this year it's 18 to 4 passing to rushing so they're just throwing the ball a lot in the red zone that's having a quarterback as a play caller that's that's uh you know you go back to even when luck was at his best i mean i don't rushing. So they're just throwing the ball a lot in the red zone. That's having a quarterback as a play caller. You go back to even when Luck was at his best. I mean, I don't know if it's just a team thing, but remember they used to throw the ball to Ahmad Bradshaw all the time. Well, and when Frank Reich was in Philadelphia,

it was the year that Carson Wentz had the huge touchdown number, and I spent the whole offseason talking about touchdown regression. It just turned out Frank Reich left, so that was the regression. Well, I think what's crazy, and I'm just looking this up now, Marlon Mack, points per game. You want to guess where he is in PPR? Points per game, Marlon Mack. 17th.

I bet he's lower than that. 25th. Behind Devontae Freeman. I do feel right about Marlon Mack. He's Derek Henry. He's within one point of number 20. It's a bunch together, but it's just something to know in PPR.

Would you start Brian Hill or Marlon Mack this week in PPR? Hill. I'll take Mack. I think he scores. Mack is a poor man's Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry, by the way, is... Yeah, no, he's top. I think he's top 10.

He's top 10 in PPR. Yeah, but it's the same type of thing. It's just, you know, you're a touchdown-dependent player to help your fantasy value, and that's what Marlon Mack has become. He's kind of Derek Henry without the big plays. Like, if you take away those two or three huge plays from Henry this year. Right. Okay. Another

stat to know, the Vikings have allowed 100 yards or a touchdown to 14 wide receivers in 10 games. Wow, that blows my mind. So Cortland Sutton, talk about him in a second. But Minnesota, 100 yards or a touchdown to 14 wide receivers in 10 games. Oakland, they really struggle against pass-catching running backs. They've given up five receiving touchdowns to running backs in their last five games.

Do you think that helps Joe Mixon? Well, I mean, that's the only way he scores. He's got three receiving touchdowns on running backs in their last five games. Do you think that helps Joe Mixon? Well, I mean, that's the only way he scores. He's got three receiving touchdowns on the season. He hasn't rushed for one yet. So I think it's a good game for Joe Mixon. I like the fact that they stayed committed to him last week against Baltimore. And he's running well. He's playing hard.

For everything that's falling apart with Cincinnati, give him some credit for the way that he's played. And his numbers, they're not pretty, but under the circumstances, I think you'd take it if you've been starting him week in, week out. I think this is a good opportunity for him. He's not going to have a big game running the ball unless he gets 30 carries again,

but his total yards and chance to score, I think, are there. I'm thinking he's got a chance to have a big game running the ball. He's been given a lot of work last couple of weeks. That was 30 carries last week together. I know, but the week before he had at least 20 touches in that game too. So I think that he's going to get – he's their offense right now, and it's easy for them to lean on him when they've got a rookie quarterback. That takes some pressure off of Ryan Finley.

You don't like him as much as Brian Hill. I do. You do. Oh, yeah. All right, that's Joe Mixon. Well, Oakland's great against the run. Their run defense is good. They've allowed all those receiving touchdowns.

I think that there's room for Mixon to get one of them. Only one wide receiver. This is amazing. Only one wide receiver has more than 77 yards against the Chiefs in their last nine games, and that was Cortland Sutton. Kenny Galladay and B.C. Johnson are the only wide receivers to catch a touchdown against the Chiefs in their last eight games. There are some stats that I buy

and some that I don't, and I just don't think that I buy that they are really good against wide receivers. They've been really good against the pass. They've just kind of the opposite of what we've seen from other teams. They've sold out to stop the pass and they will just allow you to run all over them. But their schedule, I think,

is a big part of it. They face the Jaguars, Raiders, Ravens, the Lions, and Stafford had a big game, the Colts, who ran the ball 29 times with Mack, the Texans, the Broncos, the Packers, and Rodgers destroyed them, and Tennessee. So, you know, it's just interesting. Like, Keenan Allen against the Chiefs, Monday night in Mexico City,

but you think great start, but the stats say it's not. Start or sit Keenan Allen against the Chiefs Monday night in Mexico City. You think great start, but the stats say it's not. Start or sit Keenan Allen? The Keenan Allen stats say it's not. That's also true. Who's sitting him? All the targets that he's continuing to get, that's the thing you're buying into. At some point, he's going to deliver a big game. I'm starting him.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Final stat that I got. Houston deliver a big game. I'm starting him. Yeah. Okay. And final stat that I got, Houston is 6-3. In their three losses, Carlos Hyde has 10, 10, and 12 carries. They are at Baltimore, who dominates against the run. So do you think they're going to win or lose, Texans? Lose.

Lose. Yep. This could be a really bad game for Carlos Hyde. Is it a proven? Nice guy, by the way. Sorry. Well, then this could be a really good game for Carlos Hyde. Prove it week.

No, it would be a bad game for him. Who needs to prove something to you this week for you to have faith in them going forward? Who's got a big prove it week for you? Heath, why don't I start with you? Todd Gurley. I would like for the Rams to prove that they would like to use him more in the passing game or in the fourth quarter in the rushing game or somewhere. I don't really care where I just like for Todd Gurley to get more than 12 or 13 touches in a game. And also I'd

like for Gurley to show that he's still a very good running back. His yards per carrier down 20% from last year. His yards per target are the second worst in the NFL this season behind only Brashad Perryman. That offensive line is such a disaster. It really is. I feel bad for that team. I mean, they're, I think, a victim of circumstances because losing Saffold, the replacement options for Sullivan

haven't been good. It's just been a bad scenario all the way around. It's funny. I keep moving them down. I don't think I can get them to where you are, Heath, but it's, it's tough to trust Todd Gurley.

And I think you said it earlier this week. I believe you. I believe myself, Brian Hill's a better fantasy option than Todd Gurley right now. Well, Gurley does have a good matchup, but he's just, you know,

not really, he hasn't been very effective and two more offensive line injuries. As we mentioned. Jamie, who's your proven player this week? Tevin Coleman. I think with Matt Breida not being there, he's had two rough games. I know he had the 11 PPR points last week,

so he was serviceable, but I think we need to see them get back to leaning on him a little bit more. I don't think he's ever going to be a 20 to 25 touch type of guy, but can he be 15 total touches? I don't think he's ever going to be a 20 to 25 touch type of guy, but can he be 15 total touches? And I think he'll be successful enough in that matchup against Arizona this week to deliver. It's just a matter of you have Brita out,

at least that's the assumption, one to two weeks, and Mostert's now banged up. I hope that that's the case, is that maybe Mostert's not 100% and they can give Tevin Coleman an opportunity to sort of shine. dave prove it oj howard who you might have thought proved it last week i want to see him do it again and bruce arians kind of admitted this week uh in his press conference that they knew about the matchup against arizona and they took advantage of it and if they're

paying attention to those matchups and they've got to see what the matchup is against New Orleans and go, oi, we can't use O.J. Howard. And in three games in his career against the Saints, O.J. Howard's been below 60 yards, no touchdowns. Okay, so not excited about O.J. Howard? Is that what I'm gathering here? Okay. No, I'm not.

And for me, I'm looking at a couple of young wide receivers, Terry McLaurin against the Jets. If he can't do it against the Jets, we're going to have a rough year ahead. Well, Dwayne Haskins. Terry McLaurin has proven to me that he's a very good wide receiver. It's about Haskins. And Corlin Sutton. Corlin Sutton at Minnesota. I gave you that stat about how bad

Minnesota's been against wide receivers. I know he had the touchdown in the first game of Brandon Allen. It was an acrobatic catch and he had his second lowest yards output of the season. So I think if McLaurin and Sutton have bad games, their trade value is just going to sink. I don't know how much they have

right now to begin with. I think Sutton still has quite a bit. I don't know if McLaurin has any. I'm not as confident. I can't imagine giving up something like that. Well, you should do what you should have done with Christian Kirk. You should flip Christian Kirk immediately after the game that he just had because he's going to stink for the next month. And then you should flip Terry McLaurin if he has

a big game against the Jets because it's going to be downhill from here. And maybe the same thing with Sutton because they may turn to Drew Locke and that could be even worse than Brandon Allen. All right, let's do the news and notes here. Dave, I'm just going to do the quarterbacks with you. I don't know if there's actually much here, but Jacoby Brissett is going to start if there are no setbacks. So that's good. We'll preview that game. Matthew Stafford

mispracticed. Do you expect him to play? I do not cam newton said he'd welcome a trade to oh he didn't say that but according to the nfl network he would welcome a trade to chicago uh he'll take a trade anywhere where he can start and keep making money geno smith called heads people he called heads if you watch his mouth during the coin toss, he called heads. Did you see his tweet? He said hails, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. He called heads. All right, running back news.

James Conner's going to play. David Montgomery was limited with an ankle injury. Dave, I'll stick with you. Do you think he's going to play, David Montgomery? As of now, I think he plays. David Johnson was not on the injury report. Who's your favorite Cardinals running back at San Francisco this week? Kenyon Drake.

Ronald Jones could do more in the passing game, according to Bruce Arians. Right now, guys, Ronald Jones or Brian Hill? Hill. Hill. Ronald Jones or Joe Mixon? Mixon. Even in PPR. I think I've got them very, very close.

I might actually have Jones ranked higher. All right. Jordan Howard was limited with a shoulder injury, but close. I might actually have Jones ranked higher. All right. Jordan Howard was limited with a shoulder injury, but I'm thinking we still expect him right now. We don't expect him this week. I do, too. Yeah. I do, too.

It's going to have to be. I hope he plays. He's going to have to have a big game. It's a little bit of a problem, though, to be limited the week after your bye. Sure. That's definitely concerning. Yeah. I mean, if somebody dropped Miles Sanders go take a look because of

powers out then Miles Sanders is a star this week Ty Johnson mispractice and Chris Thompson may not return this week wide receivers we're not expecting Adam Thielen Alshon Jeffrey day today he may not play but we will preview that game Robbie Anderson was limited in practice if Robbie Anderson doesn't go how much

would you like to Marius Thomas this week at Washington good number three for firm and PPR he can probably get you to 10 are we talking about this game today no okay sorry um lucky you miss it well no but Washington's defense since Callahan took over they have just completely taken the air out of the ball yeah and they aren't giving up very many offensive plays, very many offensive points. I don't like the Jets this week. But the Jets have a good run defense, so maybe they can counteract that strategy.

It's going to be a crapola game. Yes. Will Fuller was limited in practice, so he's still questionable. We don't know if he'll play. Not expecting T.Y. Hilton. Not expecting A.J. Green. You guys just correct me if I'm wrong on anything.

Alex Erickson was limited, and we are expecting Dede Westbrook at the Colts. Austin Hooper is going to miss about a month. Did not ask this, but I will now. With Austin Hooper out a month, with no Muhammad Sanu, with no Devontae Freeman, is Matt Ryan still a good fantasy quarterback? Good, yes. Fine. Great as he was before the injury?

Probably not. Right. Jack Doyle sat with a shoulder injury, so that's something to watch. We'll preview that game. George Kittle is likely out. Not officially out, but likely out. And Vernon Davis could be back this week.

Any interest in Vernon Davis? Heath? Not really. He's been your guy. He was my guy at one point for like three weeks, but no. Like in the fishbowl. Yeah. Anything where you get tight end bonuses, you should pick him up.

And if you're in deeper leagues, there are three players who can come off IR. Well, four. Nikhil Harry, he's off IR. He's off IR, yeah. David Njoku, John Ross, Devin Funchess. Funchess eligible to play this week. Njoku next week. Ross in week 14.

Big defensive news would be the Vikings run defense. They won't have Linval Joseph, and they didn't have him last week, but also Shamar Steffen, another one of their defensive tackles. He could be out, so we'll see what that means for Phillip Lindsay. Let's do some rankings disputes. 60 seconds on the clock. Let's go with Dave versus Jamie here. Jamie and Heath like DJ Chark. They have him as a top 13 wide receiver. Dave does not. You've got him 27th in non-PPR, 34th in PPR.

DJ Chark is at Indianapolis. Jamie, make the case for DJ Chark. I just think the offense is going to operate the same way that they have been with Foles stepping in for Minshew. We'll find out how healthy Foles is in terms of any rust, but he's had enough time to practice. Chark is their number one receiver. I don't think they're going to go away from him, take some shots down the field. The Colts defense is good. It's not great. I like the opportunity for Chark to still have a

high volume of targets, find the end zone. In a matchup where it could be high scoring with Jacoby Brissett now back, I'm going to stick with DJ. I like the confidence. Um, and I obviously liked the player. I also liked Colts defense and I think they're going to get after Nick Foles. Jaguars have allowed 10 quarterback pressures or more each of their last six games. That was a jumpy quarterback. Yeah. Okay. And Nick Foles is the picture of calmness back there. I think that you're going to see the secondary give a challenge to Jacksonville. I love the upside with Chark. I'm just not confident in him being a rock-solid, even top-20 receiver this week.

Okay. Marquise Brown, Dave, you are more confident in him. Let's go Dave versus Heath. Heath's the low guy on Marquise Brown against Houston. He's got him 34th in PPR, 31st in non-PPR. Dave has him as a top 20 wide receiver. Marquise Brown, Heath, you're saying to probably sit Marquise Brown. I don't like this position.

I'm trying to find reasons to move Marquise Brown up. It is a fantastic matchup against the Houston Texans. I think he's good. I love his quarterback. The thing that's held me back so far is he's got 13 targets over his last three games. You've got to catch a deep touchdown or you're going to be bad with four to five targets per game. And that's all we've seen from him. In two out of those three games, he's mostly been bad.

He did catch the deep touchdown against the Bengals. So where you're at now is where I was at at this time last week with Marquise Brown. And I was just waiting to see a sign from the Ravens that they would use him more downfield because he had had zero deep targets in three games before week 10. First play last week is a deep ball from Lamar Jackson to Marquise Brown. I think that you're going to continue to see that. I think he's healthier now. They're clearly liking his speed. He had a great game last week. And you said it, this matchup against Houston is outstanding. At least two touchdowns to wide receivers in four of their last five games i will just say like that

type of player if he's going to get four to five targets and two of them are going to be deep every week i'm just going to be low on them every week because you've got to have volatility you're going to be wrong and just as often as you're right on that guy all right uh let's talk go to beckham here so beckham we you know we previewed it yesterday, but Dave and Jamie weren't on the show. They have him right around 24th, borderline number two receiver against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and Heath's got him as a top 15 wide receiver. So, Jamie, why are you lower on Beckham than Heath? I just look at the Steelers' defense, and they're great.

And Beckham has one touchdown since week two and has not played well over the course of the season. I like the fact that Baker said, I'm going to force feed him the targets, which is why I'm not lower on him to begin with. This is, in my opinion, high on Beckham. I just expect him to struggle once again. It's just a matter of will he show up on a primetime game.

It's a typical spot where he tends to play well. So that's why I think he has a chance to still be in or should be in your lineup. But this is not an easy matchup against a great Steeler secondary. It's not an easy matchup. I don't love it, but I do like the fact that since the bye,

they've thrown more than half of their passes to Beckham and Jarvis Landry. They've really consolidated things around those two and Chubb and Hunt. And I think the Browns win this game. I think Beckham has a good game in primetime. The last six Browns coaches that have been fired have all been fired after a Steelers game. That's the sad of the week.

Well, let's see. Let's do two more. Let's do Derek Carr. Heath, you got Derek Carr fourth against the Bengals. Jamie seventh, Dave twelfth. I'll go Dave versus Heath here. Heath, make the case for Carr. Fourth, wow.

It's the Bengals. And the Raiders have been good. And I think that they can do pretty much whatever they want to in this game. Josh Jacobs will score some points. Darren Waller is going to get back on track. Tyrell Williams scores a touchdown. And it's the Bengals.

I'm worried that it's going to get out of hand early and Carr won't have to do too much and i think that's possible but if it does there's a 50 50 chance it gets out of hand early because derrick car scoring points sure i get where you're coming from i i think he's a number one quarterback certainly startable this week and a tremendous replacement if you're without wilson or rogers you can trade for derrick car dirt cheap and you can use them next week too just a little worried about the upside. Okay. You've got him ahead of

Drew Brees, Heath. Drew Brees at Tampa Bay. Maybe it's because he's at Tampa Bay. Drew Brees outdoors after what we saw from Drew Brees last week? Drew Brees isn't the same quarterback anymore. Drew Brees isn't the same because he had one bad game. Drew Brees isn't the same quarterback. He scored 30 points

the week before. Any bad game? On the road? No, at home. I don't know if he's not the same quarterback anymore. Well, if he is the same quarterback, then you wouldn't want to start him outside. Against the Bucs, I think I might make an exception. He's going to have to throw.

All right, what else we got? Last one. How about Jacoby Brissett or Noah Fant? Okay, you sure? Jacoby Briss no a fan heath no a fan okay no a fan dave and jamie have an 18th you've got a maith since the emmanuel sanders trade he's seen 25 of the team's targets he is their number two wide receiver he has big play ability and i think he's going to be the safety valve for brandon allen if courtland sutton's double covered. Remember the question I asked you before the show? No. Which team

has yet to allow a touchdown to a tight end? Who is it? Minnesota. They're due. I'm sure they are. I'm sure Noah Fant is going to be the one that breaks it. Well, if they tackle like the Browns did, he'll do it. Sure. Yeah. No, I think you want to stash Noah Fant. You don't want to start Noah Fant this week. Yeah. I'd rather start Nick Boyle, for example. I would too. You don't want to start Noah Fant this week. Yeah.

Like I'd rather start Nick Boyle, for example. I would too. Yep. Okay. Had that 75-yard touchdown catch and run, and that's pretty much it this year. But all right. So Heath likes Noah Fant calling his shot.

Sounds good. We got the seven games to preview. We'll get to the ones, the late ones right now. It's start, sit, or flex at best. Tyler Boyd at Oakland in the – oh, never mind. That's that. sit, or flex at best. Tyler Boyd at Oakland. Never mind that stat. That's for Tyrell Williams. But go ahead with Tyler Boyd. Start, sit, or flex at best. I'm starting him.

I think the matchup's good enough against Oakland. They've had problems with their slot corner. That's where he lines up a lot. They're going to chase points. I think he's going to get good volume this week. Okay. Start in PPR. Flex at best and none. Joe Mixon. I think we already talked about him.

He's a start. Would you start Joe Mixon or Tyler Boyd in PPR? Boyd. Boyd. I think Boyd's safer. Okay. Now, Tyrell Williams, here's your stat. In the last three games since Drake Kirkpatrick got hurt,

five wide receivers have had 73 or more yards. Four wide receivers have scored against the Bengals. So starter said Tyrell Williams compared to Tyler Boyd. Were they better with Drake Kirkpatrick? Yes. Actually, they were surprisingly good against the pass with Drake Kirkpatrick. He's made a big difference. Start.

Oh, he's a start. Start in non-flex and PPR. I prefer Tyrell in non and tyler boyd and ppr what about half ppr i will say oh well i don't know i don't know they are tied to the 100th of a point they're tied to the 100th of a point and half ppr uh i would probably start tyler boyd because of the volume. We better. James White at Philadelphia. Start or sit or flex?

Start in PPR. Flex in none. I might sit him in none. Sit in both. Sit Sonny Michel in both. Yeah, sit him. Mohamed Sanu at Philadelphia. I think he's going to be okay in PPR.

Yep. Now that I'd be a little more worried. Flex, though. Yeah, Flex and PPR sit in none. Devin Singletary at Miami. Must start. Start. Cole Beasley at Miami.

Flexorama. Yep. Cole Beasley or next guy on this list davante parker parker i'll take beasley i'll take parker and non-ppr and beasley in full ppr i don't feel like beasley's a big catch guy like he was last week but he was right and he was more about the touchdowns before that but he's giving you at least 10 PPR points four straight games. He also scored against Miami. Parker's going to have five catches for 62 yards. Just letting you all know.

That's what he does every week. I take the under. All right. Well, he's very concerned. Against Buffalo, he was what? Five for 55 and a touchdown. He scored on Buffalo. Yeah. He's one of four receivers to score on the Bills.

Bills allowed two passing touchdowns last week to the Browns. Start, sit, or flex at best. Kalen Ballage. Flex. Non-PPR flex. I mean, he is giving you

6.0 per carry. 6.0? Last week was 6.0. No, 6.0 per carry. 6.0? Last week was 6.0. Getting 300 carries? No, 6.0 per carry, and that was last week. 6.0 what? 6.0 feet per carry. And on the season, he's about 9.0.

We've got to make him look good. No, on the season, he's at 2.1 yards. Oh, is he? So he's at 6.0 or so there, too. FPC for life. Okay. Yeah, he is on pace to be the only running back ever, I believe,

to average fewer than 2.5 yards per carry and 3 yards per target. Could he get benched? When's that going to happen? It could happen this week. I'm changing my mind. They've won a couple games. They don't want to win too many more. That's the thing. I don't think they're going to get away from it.

I think you leave this guy. Josh Rosen needs to win too many more. That's the thing. I don't think they're going to get away from it. I think we leave this guy. Yeah. This guy is helping. Josh Rosen needs to play for sure. All right. Well, listen, you probably don't want to start Kalen Balazs in FanDuel, although you never know. It is a great matchup. You could take a shot.

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slash FFT and you can win Dave, how many nickels? 20 million. Yeah, it was not such a hard bath. Okay. Houston to Baltimore. I told you about Carlos Hyde. That's your stat of the game. He has 10 to 12 carries in their three losses.

I've got a good stat of the game. Oh, okay. Because I guess I had a bad one go ahead deandre hopkins has averaged 15.2 fantasy points per game with will fuller 22.3 without will fuller the same number of catches per game as he had targets per game is that with this season or career this season yeah it's a good point uh i don't think anybody's sitting deandre hopkins but it is you can't right oh i think it may it changes his appeal and fan duel right yeah that's for sure okay so so watson anybody you're starting it's not an easy matchup baltimore's defense got a lot better anybody you're starting over watson that you ordinarily wouldn't i know he's still

a top five but like like any streamers? Dak is the only name. Well, Lamar, you may have drafted Watson and Lamar Jackson and been struggling with that decision on a weekly basis. And I'll start Mahomes over him too, but that's in the exact same. No one had Patrick and Deshaun.

So you're going to start Deshaun Watson, who's had mostly tough matchup all year and he's been pretty good. It's a weird over-under. What is it? 50. 50, yeah. Okay, why is that weird?

Because I don't think the Texans can score very well against this defense. So where is it going to come from? Is it going to be a 30-20 game? You know, 31-20? So maybe it's one of those sucker lines. It just feels weird. They're trying to entice you to take over.

The Texas defense is clearly not good. And so Baltimore should have success scoring. They got two members of their secondary back going into that game in London. We thought Gardner Minshew was going to be great. They got Joseph and their safety Gibson back. And they played a lot better. They had a great game plan. They had a great game plan against the Jaguars.

Which is why the sack total to me is a little skewed. Because Minshew just got jumpy in the pocket the last two games for him, and that's why I think he's being benched. They don't have a great defense. And they can't do that in this game. But they may not be as bad as we thought because their secondary was really beat up. Now, that doesn't mean anything in this game

because Lamar Jackson is obviously a must-start. I think he's your number one or number two quarterback. The running backs, though, were sitting Hyde, right? You want to get away from him? Yes. Duke Johnson, get away from him? Yes. Duke Johnson, get away from him? PPR flex. Yep. Okay.

Let's talk about Mark Ingram. He's actually pretty interesting. He was going to be in the rankings disputes, but we'll do it right now. Dave, you've got him outside your top 15 and Heath and Jamie inside your top 10, I believe, for Mark Ingram. That's interesting to me because this is a really good run defense. They've allowed 3.6 yards per carry since week one.

And Mark Ingram, you know, doesn't get a ton of work, doesn't catch a ton of passes. So a lot of faith in him. 14th in PPR, but top 10 in non-PPR. So Jamie, Heath, you guys can kick it off with Ingram. I think he scores. And we've seen when they're in competitive games, he gets more work.

You go back to the Patriots game two weeks ago, and so I don't think the Texans are going to roll over here. So while I don't know if they're going to score to the level of what the numbers suggest, I still think they're going to be in this game and make it tough on Baltimore. And so I think Ingram's got a chance here for 15 carries. And we've seen what his numbers are when he gets that type of workload.

So I'll take my chances with him to get 80 in a touchdown. Yeah, I think in non-PPR, he's probably been a top 10 running back more often than not. And I don't know that this matchup is difficult enough to where I would consider sitting him. Dave? He's only had one game with 15 carries in his last four. And he could have had it against Cincinnati. They didn't need him to do it in that game. I don't know how much they're going to need him to do it in this game.

And Lamar Jackson's been too good as a runner. Do you think they blow out the Texans? I don't know if it's going to be a blowout, but I think that they're going to win pretty handily. Okay. We already talked about Marquise Brown. We're starting DeAndre Hopkins. If Will Fuller plays, would you start Will Fuller?

If Will Fuller doesn't play, would you start Kenny Stills? And by the way, Kenny Stills is 50% owned. If Will Fuller is back, I think that's someone you can probably drop if you want to pick up maybe a handcuff or something like that. You can drop him even if Fuller isn't back. All right. Yeah, Baltimore, they've allowed 100 yards or a touchdown to a wide receiver in all but one game.

It's probably going to be Hopkins. but what do you think about fuller he's a you know boomer bust number three receiver yep yep okay fuller or let's say tyler boyd tyra williams behind those guys behind those guys by about 10 spots probably all right well i just for, Fuller would be in the Devontae Parker, Cole Beasley range. He's in the range of, I need to start a player that's got some high upside and might be able to hold on to one deep pass. The Mike Williams range. Well, except Mike Williams hasn't really done it this year. He has zero touchdowns.

Fuller has one game with touchdowns. Yeah, and one game with three drops. Yeah. Three drop touchdowns fuller has one game with touchdowns yeah two and and one game with three drops yeah touchdowns i mean you know that the high risk high reward do you need somebody like that in your lineup are you playing against the number one team in your league that doesn't case then you go with that does not matter to me i just i think you can get my merit of me with guys on by it matters to a lot of them i don't feel good about a lot of other people, and I know I'm going up against a stack team. Any points?

People care about that. I don't because I think you can outsmart yourself, and you can leave points on your bench. I never look at my opponent. No, I almost never do either because I play in too many leagues. But if I know that my lineup is missing Tyler Lockett, and I want somebody that's kind of like Tyler Lockett. Will Fuller

is someone I would consider. Darren Fels is 60% owned. He has inconsistent targets, but he has six or more fantasy points in non-PPR in five of his last seven games. That's pretty good. Twelve or more in PPR in four of his last seven games. The Ravens have not really

been tested. I don't know that they're good against tight ends but they do allow the seventh fewest points against tight ends starters hit fells well the Ravens have only allowed two touchdowns to tight ends all year one did come last week to Eifert and I feel like he's just a he's become like a touchdown or bust tight end

for Houston and a red zone option he's a guy that's taking touchdowns away from Carlos Hyde. So if you think he can score, if you can't find a better tight end that's more dependable for yardage, then you go with Fels. I think if Fuller plays, you stay away from him. I just think you can find.

There's a lot of streaming tight ends this week, and none of them are safe, but you can find a guy that's a better yardage. Do you stick with Kosicki, or do you go back to Fels versus Kosicki? I'd go Fels with Kosicki, or do you go back to Fels versus Kosicki? I'd go Fels over Kosicki, but I'd go Nick Boyle over Fels. I'd go Nick Boyle over Fels as well. Okay, that's interesting.

I mean, Nick Boyle's had some really bad games, right? He's kind of coming on strong. So have all these guys. The Fels is— Let's just imagine, and this is hard to do, but imagine he did not score a one-yard touchdown last week. Last game. He didn't last week.

Last game. Two weeks ago. Last game. You look at his yardage total over his last six games, it's 12-20-69, 27-58-1. But Darren Fels has the most touchdown catches among tight ends. Maybe Austin Hooper has more. But I think...

Yeah, it's just a matter of what you think. And this is a lot of it format, too. You know, non-PPR, he's helping you. PPR, he's killing you when he doesn't score. Yeah, sure.

For the most part. He'll kill you anyway. He scored a touchdown last week and scored 7.1 PPR points. Okay, guys, let's move on. Two weeks. It's tough. Baltimore DST,

Dave and Jamie have him 14th and Heath has him 6th. So, you know, they're in play. Is that just because you want to say, even if it's a tough matchup, you just go with them anyway, Heath? I think they could give up points to Houston and still score fantasy points. Deshaun Watson has thrown some interceptions. They have had trouble protecting him in the past. I think they'll get a few sacks.

They can make some plays, and then they may get up some points as well. It really—and it's so—like, ranking defenses is the worst because we've got four different scoring formats in the leagues i play in just on cbs and i see dave has defenses dave has moved the ravens defense up so now it's jamie who's the outlier who has them outside the top 12 all right we're gonna take a quick break here and when we come back we'll talk about the chiefs and the chargers metro links and cross links are reminding everyone to be careful as eglinton crosstown lrt train testing is in progress please be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks remember to follow all traffic signals be careful along our tracks and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe.

Kansas City at the Chargers. The Chiefs have allowed 21 or more fantasy points to 10 of the last 13 quarterbacks they've faced in their road games. All right, do we have faith? Are we going back to Phillip Rivers? He was such a letdown last week. Starter set. I'm going back to him.

I think he's a start. We've seen him bounce back from bad games like this before. He looked washed in that game, but I think he can come through, and we've seen the Chargers allow some big points to fantasy quarterbacks lately. I'm nervous. The Chargers have.

The Chiefs. The Chiefs, I'm going to say. I'm sorry. I Chargers have. The Chiefs. The Chiefs. I think you need, sorry Heath, but I think you need, which is not a surprise, but I think you need Patrick Mahomes to have a big game here.

And they're chasing points. Yeah. Because they're going to run on them early. You know that. Sure. I'm nervous, but I'm probably, like they're a guy,

I'd start Derek Caro for him pretty easily. I would start both quarterbacks in the Colts-Jags game over Phillip Rivers. Not me. Yeah, I'm starting Rivers over everybody you just named. Carr I can see. Yeah, I mean, Carr does not have a lot of upside. Well, I shouldn't say he doesn't have a lot of upside. He hasn't had big games. He's had, I think, one big game

this year. Well, two of his last three, he's over 23 points. I don't think we're going to get a lot of... Outside of the top three or four guys, I don't think we're going to get a lot of 30-point games this week. Two of his last three games, Derek Carr is what? He's over 23? Yep. 23 and 29. No, 23

and 29, yeah. I could be wrong, but Derek Carr's been better than Phillip Rivers this year, right? He's been better than him recently, that's for sure. I believe on a per-game basis, he has been better than Phillip Rivers this year. If only there was some kind of electronic device we could use to get that information. He is better by two-tenths of a fantasy point. Okay, so pretty much the same. All right, so Melvin Gordon is a must-start, right?

Top five? Yeah. I'm starting both running backs. All three running backs are. All four running backs are. No, just three. Okay. Eckler or Damian Williams?

Williams. Williams. Williams Williams Eckler and PPR Damien and non PPR but we're buying back into Damien Williams here right he's looked good the last two weeks getting the work it's going to be really interesting to see what the actives and inactives look like for that game because if if LaShawn McCoy is active

I think that tells you that they're a little bit concerned with the fumble if McCoy is inactive then it's still all systems go with a little bit concerned with the fumble. If McCoy isn't active, then it's still all systems go with Damian Williams. The problem is you're not going to know because it's Monday night. Just make that decision if you're close. If it's close between Eckler and Williams, depending on what your team looks like, and you're like, I don't know,

that's something that could sway it in the wrong way for you. You're saying if McCoy plays, that would, in your mind, be a bit of a downgrade to Damian Williams? I think that would be Andy Reid saying that fumble pissed him off. They said that they rested McCoy for maintenance reasons,

so I kind of feel like he's going to play. They also said that they rested him to save him for the end of the season. Well, yeah, I think that's kind of the same thing, but I don't know that he's going to sit two games in a row, but all right, obviously we're not starting McCoy. Damian Williams or Brian Hill? Hill.

I believe I have Williams ranked higher. I have Williams higher in PPR, Hill higher in non-PPR. Okay, Damian Williams or Beckham? Williams. Williams. I believe I have Beckham higher in PPR, Williams higher in non. I like the six catches Williams had last week. That's a great sign.

All righty. Let's talk about the Chargers wide receivers. Are you going to start them? I gave you that stat about you're going to start Keenan Allen. He's top 16 in non PPR. He's top 12 in PPR. I know he hasn't been good. It doesn't seem like a great matchup.

Start Keenan Allen. And if he struggles here, maybe this is a prove-it week. Mike Williams, though, what do you guys think about Mike Williams this week? He's Will Fuller. Kind of the same. Number three receiver. How about this, Mike? You're going to start Mahomes.

You're going to start Kelsey. You're going to start Hill. So that's easy. Rivers we talked about. The running backs. I'll get a little bit more into Eckler, I think. But would you start Sammy Watkins or Mike Williams?

Sammy. Sammy and PPR, Williams and Nunn. I've got Williams and Nunn. I've got Williams and both. Okay, but they're number three guys and if you have Brian Hill, if you have Tevin Coleman, what about Kenyon Drake? Would you start Kenyon Drake

over? I said Tevin Coleman. I meant Devin Singletary. I don't know why. Tevin and Devin, maybe? What about Kenyon Drake? Would you rather have Drake or one of these number two wide receivers in this game? The receivers. I think I'll take Drake. I'll take Drake over Williams,

Sammy over Drake. Okay. Hunter Henry is a must start. Austin Eckler really hasn't been catching the ball that much lately. Yeah. That's concerning. This is a good matchup. I mean, the Chiefs are bad against running backs and pass-catching running backs.

And you're expecting a lot of points, and he does get – he has – there are three players that are tied for the most targets inside the 10-yard line. Allen, Williams, and Eckler. So, you know, probably maybe he needs to score, but he's got a good chance to do that, I'd say. So, all right.

I think that's this game. DSTs? Yes, they exist. They're real. Chiefs are just outside the top 12 for Jamie, way outside for Dave and Heath. Yeah, you don't want to use either DST. Jacksonville is at Indianapolis.

Here's a really weird stat of the game. The Jaguars allow, in non-PPR, almost exactly one fantasy point per target to wide receivers in non-decimal PPR scoring. So if your wide receiver gets eight targets, good chance he's going to get around eight non-PPR fantasy points. I want to know about Zach Paschal. Jacoby Brissett's back.

There were a lot of reasons to like Paschal going into that Dolphins game. How would you compare him to Mike Williams and Sammy Watkins? I'd rather have those guys than Paschal. I'd rather have Paschal than those guys. I think I'm siding with Heath on this one. I think I'd rather have Paschal than those guys. I think I'm siding with Heath on this one. I think I'd rather have Paschal than those guys too. Okay, Heath, make your case. I just think with Jacoby Brissett back,

their pass offense has been so much better at home than it has been on the road, and Jacksonville's defense just doesn't really make a difference to me. They're not bad. I don't think that they're good enough to really worry about either, though. They've allowed one touchdown to a receiver in the last five games, and it was DeAndre Hopkins. The Jaguars?

Yep. Okay. So they have faced who? They have faced the Panthers. Oh, they faced Michael Thomas, kept him out of the end zone. Gave up 137 yards to Alex Erickson. Did well against the Jets.

AJ Boye has done a really nice job since replacing Jalen Ramsey as the number one corner. Yeah, he is, for sure. All right. So I just think Pascal is kind of eh. This is kind of an interesting game. Like, everyone's going to start Fournette. Is there one more must-start player in this game? I think Marlon Mack is a must-start.

And Chark? Yeah, I'm starting Mack and Chark pretty much everywhere. And I'm just not quite as... I'm not sure what to make of Chark. I'd love to buy back in because you know that I love his skills, but I'm not convinced that Nick Foles is going to be as gunslingery as Gardner Minshew was. Yeah, and D.D. Westbrook has gotten a ton of targets

lately, obviously when he hasn't been hurt. D.D. Westbrook or Zach Paschal? I'll take Westbrook. Paschal. Yeah, Westbrook's 50. I think Westbrook in PPR is a no-brainer. He's 58%. You take Paschal over D.D. in full PPR, Heath? Yes.

I don't really know what the target breakdown is going to be between Westbrook and Chark, so I've got it pretty much even. Yeah, and it's not like Chark has not gotten targets. He's got 21 in his last two games. I've just got it even, and Westbrook's targets haven't been worth very much because they've been so close to the line of scrimmage. Sure.

Okay. Yeah, I think everything's going to reset with Foles now at quarterback speaking of the quarterbacks are we starting Foles or Brissette I'm starting both Brissette but both outside the top 12 right I think they're streamable I don't think either one are top 12 why so much faith in these guys I mean we are talking

about the Colts defense is good the Colts their last five games they have been they have given up 13 points to the Chiefs, 23 to Houston, 13 to Denver, 26 to Pittsburgh, but that was with a defensive touchdown, so 19 really to Pittsburgh, 16 to Miami. They're really balling out defensively.

Well, I'll start with Brissette, who's just been awesome at home. You look at him at home, nine touchdowns, one pick, 25.5 fantasy points per game. On the road, 14.5 fantasy points per game. How healthy is he, though? I presume he's full practice on Wednesday. I'm just going to presume he's healthy.

Like, I don't... If he has some sort of setback or has a limited practice, then that would change. He did only have one tough matchup at home, though. Yeah, so there's a different split I look at with him, and it's pass attempts. Because the home games in which he went crazy

were Atlanta, Oakland, and Houston. You know, he threw a lot in all three of those games. He had 37 or more pass attempts in those games, and he had three big games, and Atlanta, Oakland, and Houston are terrible against quarterbacks. Well, it's not just that. I remember the Oakland game. He was playing from behind, and he had to throw a ton.

Yeah. So those 37 to 46 pass attempts in those games, he's had four games of 25 to 29 pass attempts, and he hasn't done well, but they also were tougher matchups. So it's like a lot of things going there. And it's not an easy matchup, right? We've kind of determined that Jacksonville's pass rush is pretty good. Their secondary, even without Jalen Ramsey, isn't bad.

So I'm going back to what I said. I think he's a good streamer. I don't think he's a great starter. I don't have the conviction. Cool. What else from this game? Am I missing anything? What about the tight ends? ends yes that's what i'm

missing thank you what about them so do we know about doyle he's a tight end for the colts oh thank you thank you i wasn't sure wasn't sure he's hurt right he's on the injury report so hoping he gets cleared up by friday and we know that he's going to play look this this team the jaguars have about five touchdowns to tight ends in their last five games. They don't have T.Y. Hilton almost certainly for this game, the Colts. So the tight ends are going to play a role. Well, Doyle has scored in every game that Hilton has missed. I don't think he did.

I don't think he scored against the Chiefs, did he? Did Hilton not play in that game? Correct. Hilton missed that game. And that was when they barely threw. Okay. So outside of that one, there's still a semblance of a track record. Doyle, it's just a matter of whether or not they—

Hilton had four catches for 37 yards against the Chiefs. Oh, crap. Not play against the Raiders. The Oakland game. Doyle scored in that game. Doyle scored in the last two games. There you go. All right.

He scored. He's had four catches. Whatever. He scored in three the last two games. There you go. Alright, he scored he's had three or he's had four catch, whatever. He scored in three games without Hilton. Alright, good call, Jamie. Sorry about that. So yeah, he's 71% owned. I mean, and Ebron last week after complaining whatever it was, his targets were up and he should have had a

touchdown on the first try. Yeah, he had three drops in the game, but I don't think they have a choice. They've got to keep going with them. So I kind of like both of them. Yeah, you like them better than Boyle? Yes. I think I have Boyle ahead of them.

Yeah, I like Boyle this week, but I would take both them if Hilton does not play as expected. I'll take both of them over OJ Howard. I would also. I would as well. What about Vance McDonald or these guys? Oh, that's easy. These guys. Howard. Okay. I would also. I would as well, yeah. What about Vance McDonald or these guys? Oh, that's easy.

These guys. Yeah. Okay. Denver at Minnesota. Ooh, hesitation from Heath on Vance McDonald. Oh, sorry. No, Vance McDonald's... We gave a great stat on Vance McDonald yesterday. If he gets the targets that he's gotten in the last two games,

he should have a good game. Yep, seven targets, right? Yeah. And that's... He should have had a good game last week, too. Been a thing of success against the Browns. Okay, so anyway, Denver at Minnesota. Stat of the game. Denver, in their first game

with Brandon Allen, they won 24-19. They had the ball for 24 minutes and 30 seconds. They ran 43 plays. And their running backs had two catches. The Browns. So Browns, let's hope. Well,

no, but they, I'm saying they, this was a terrible game offensively for them. They ran 43 plays with Brandon Allen. I don't know what to make of that, but I hope it does not repeat itself. Who's the best wide receiver in this game?

Sutton. Sutton. Heath. I think it's? Sutton. Heath? I think it's probably Sutton. Yeah. We're calling for the Chris Harris effect on Stephon Diggs.

Diggs doesn't even have 60 yards in his last two games combined anyway. I think Diggs is probably right around 10 points without a touchdown. I think he's in low end number two. I don't know what to make of Sutton, whether he's better or worse than that. I like the matchup for Sutton, and I figure they're going to have to throw more in this game than they did in their last game.

Because the Vikings are going to score points? Yeah, but not with a Stefan Diggs. That's how they got it done last week. Dalvin Cook, tight ends. He's good. Yeah. Well, look, I mean, you've got two good run defenses here, but you've got one of them missing two defensive tackles. So Diggs, by the way, he's had two terrible games in a row.

You have to go back to weeks 11 through 14 of the 2017 season, the last time he had three straight games without either a touchdown or 90 yards so that's almost two full seasons that is two full seasons basically this is week 11 uh where he has not had three bad games in a row but he also you know is facing chris harris who's just been outstanding this year um would you start philip lindsey or stefan diggs lindsey lindsey yeah i think lindsey do you like philip lindsey this week Lindsay or Stefan Diggs? Lindsay. Lindsay. Yeah, I think Lindsay. Do you like Philip Lindsay this week? Like, not love.

He's a top 24 running back, kind of, sort of by default. I think that he's got a better chance of making some breakaway plays than Royce Freeman does. In my mind, he's had five tough matchups this year. And in four of those five games, he has scored six or fewer non-PPR and 11 or fewer PPR fantasy points. He's been bad. But I don't know if this is a

tough matchup. I mean, they were great against Zeke last week. But with the injuries, could be a little bit different. Yep. And they could use... I don't think Linvaldosa played last week, though, did he? No, he didn't. But Shemar Steffen played about half the snaps. Yep. And they could use Lindsey. Well, I don't think Linzvold also played last week, though, did he? No, he didn't. He didn't. But Shamar Steffen played about half the snaps. So, still, pretty impressive what they did to Zeke.

Very impressive. Mm-hmm. Okay. Cortland Sutton or Phillip Lindsey? Sutton in PPR. I may take Sutton in non-PPR as well. It's just a matter of what Royce Freeman takes away from Lindsey. I've got Lindsey in non-PPR.

Jamie, how do we feel about Royce Freeman? I mean, if last week's game or the last game for them is an indication of something ahead, then you've got to be worried because it was a season low in touches for him, and he was miserable. So I would try and stay away, but flex at best. But Adam did say that they

had only 43 offensive plays in the game, so it wasn't... Well, I mean, I don't think they've kind of been slowed down the game the entire season for the most part. That's just those low. No, I don't feel good about Roy Freeman either. Yeah, okay, so we talked about Noah Fant. He's 38% owned. He likes him.

Dave and Jamie, say, maybe stash him, not start him. Kirk Cousins, just outside the top 12 for, well, 13th for Dave, 16th for Jamie, 18th for Heath. So we're not liking Cousins here. Third fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks. That's what he's facing here. This Denver defense has been great. This just feels like kind of the Washington game for Minnesota.

Ah. Yeah. I think I've got Cousins too high. And he's not even in the top 12. So who should we start over him? For the most part, lately at least, when he's been good,

it's been in ways that we don't really expect him to be able to repeat. So start Derek Carlson. We don't really give him the props. He deserves it. 220 yards in each of his last two games. He has played He has played very well He has sort of dispelled

Some of the bad things that have been Said and written about him He has put himself In the MVP conversation But he's not a great fantasy quarterback this week Okay so Cousins Carr over Cousins right? Yes

How about Sam Darnold or Cousins? I'd still take Cousins, Carr over Cousins, right? Yes. How about Sam Darnold or Cousins? I'd still take Cousins, but it's close. I will go Cousins, but that's mostly because of how I feel about Darnold and the Jets. And the Redskins

and the fact that they're trying to shorten games with the run. So, Cousins. Kyle Allen is the tough one for me. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm going Kyle Allen. Yeah, I'd go Kyle Allen easy there. He's got more upside, right?

Mm-hmm. Better matchup. How about Preset? Preset and Foles are cousins. Both over cousins. I'll take cousins over both. I would take Preset and Foles over cousins. Would you start Austin Eckler or Stefan Diggs?

Eckler. Eckler. Eckler. Eckler. All right. Finally, the Minnesota tight ends. Kyle Rudolph is 42% owned. He has four touchdowns in his last four games.

Irv Smith is 7% owned. And, yeah, I don't know. He's not really doing that much, but he's getting some targets. Six PPR points. That's what you're getting out of Irv. There are better options. Maybe seven. Might get seven points out of him, too.

Does anybody like Kyle Rudolph? I mean, he's a nice guy. Cool tattoo. He's scored, I think I mean, he's a nice guy. Cool tattoo. He's scored, I think, in every game that Adam Thielen has missed. I once sang a song about him. You did. And, Jamie, I'm not going to incorrectly fact-check you on the Kyle Rudolph stat you just gave.

He's played well every time Thielen's been out in terms of his fantasy production. Okay. But it's Darren Fels-ish. It's touchdowns. Minnesota DST is top three. Stardom. Over the Patriots DST.

Here we go. New England and Philadelphia. Yeah, this should be a good one. I think it's going to be a fun game. Four running backs have had six or more catches against the Eagles. Wait. No, I think it's against the Patriots. Well, which is it, sir?

Well, have the Eagles faced the Bills yet? They did. Yes, they did. They beat them. Oh, boy. Yeah. This could be either one. Four running backs have had six or more catches against one of these two teams.

Seven have had 30 or more receiving yards, but only Devin Singletary caught a touchdown. Have I ever told you how helpful these stat of the games are? Remember when the stat of the game used to be like, Buffalo is home to the biggest cheeseburger ever made. And I thought that was really terrible, but I think it was better than this one. This is bad. Alright, so

Devin Singletary caught a touchdown against the Eagles. Okay, so this stat is actually about James White. Starters hit James White because the Eagles have struggled against pass-catching running backs. I'm starting James White. The Patriots' typical formula when they go against a team that's got a tough run defense is to lean on their pass-catching

running backs a little bit more. We saw that with James White in their game against Baltimore. He didn't have a lot of catches, but he scored, and he actually had like nine carries in the game. That's a lot for him. So it was kind of wacky how that went down, but he's still got a nice safe floor of 11 PPR points. I like it.

Okay. Let's get into this game here. Which quarterback do you like better? Brady or Wentz? Brady. Yep. Oh, I almost said Foles.

Little Super Bowl slip. Yeah. Brady's top 12. And I think logical game script is they will probably struggle running the ball. And the Eagles have not been good against quarterbacks. But maybe getting a little bit better lately. They're getting healthier. Yeah.

So that might help their numbers improve. Mills is back. Ronald Darby's back. So we'll see how they do. Brady or Jameis Winston against the. So we'll see how they do. Brady or Jameis Winston against the Saints? I'll take Jameis. Timing is perfect for Jameis.

Brady. Okay, ideally we want to get away from Sonny Michel and James White only in PPR. We're only starting White in PPR. In terms of the running backs, first of all, do you think there's any reason to stash Rex Burkhead? Yes. Yeah, we have no idea who's going to touch the ball. At some point,

Sonny Michel's struggles are going to catch up to him. Sure. Okay, then. In terms of the wide receivers, we know Edelman is a must-start. And we talked about Dorsett and Sanu. They're number three receivers. Jamie said he likes Dorsett better in non-PPR.

Sanu in PPR. Dorsett is 33% owned. And, yeah, he's got an opportunity here against the Eagles who give up the sixth most fantasy points to wide receivers. Let's go over to the Eagles. Do we have time for a quick point on Sanu? Sure. The five targets he got in his first game

would have been equal to the third most that Dorsett's had in a game this season. And the 14 targets he had in his last game is the second most by any Patriots pass catcher this whole year. I would expect Sanu to stay involved. I like the PPR

factor is good with him. Wentz is not playing well enough and the Patriots give up the fewest fantasy points to the quarterback. So try to get away from Carson Wentz. Kyle Allen over Wentz is not playing well enough, and the Patriots give up the fewest fantasy points to the quarterbacks, so try to get away from Carson Wentz. Kyle Allen over Wentz, I assume? Yes. Nick Foles? Yep. Not for Dave, but for

two of the three guys, Nick Foles is better. Try to get away from Carson Wentz. Jordan Howard and Miles Sanders gets a little trickier here. What do we think about these two? I'm digging Howard. I like the workload the last couple of games. I think the Eagles have no choice but to try and use their run game.

They can't threaten downfield. They don't have the speed to do it. Nelson Aguilar isn't reliable in that role, and Miles Sanders can't do it enough. So I think you're going to see Jordan Howard have a lot of carries, and the Patriots haven't been great against the run lately. And non PPR Howard's the best running back in this game.

Uh, I would take him as the best regardless of format. Yeah. I think it's really close in full PPR with James White because you know of white's potentials in the potential rather in the passing game. It's close between those two in full PPR. He would be my favorite and half PPR as well. What about one third PPR?

The ceiling for James White just hasn't been big. In PPR, he just had his best game, which was 15 points, and Howard's beat that each of the last two weeks. Yeah, plus he's only had three games with fewer than seven targets this season, James White, and two of those three were since Mohamed Sanu came about. So his targets

have gone down with Sanu. Well, it's also with Burkhead back on the field. That's true. That is true. All right. So let's talk about... Okay. Well, Miles Sanders, is he anything more than just like a dart throw flex?

Well, he could be better than that if Howard is hurt. So just keep an eye on the injury report. Right. But if Howard plays... Mid-range flex. Mid-range flex. Michelle or Miles Sanders? Michelle.

I would take Sanders in PPR. I'll take Sanders in... I think I'm going to take Sanders either way because I just don't like the upside for Sonny. Sanders has five straight games with at least three catches. I would take Sanders over Freeman. Over Royce Freeman. Yep.

And Devante. Both. Yep. And Devontae. Both. Yeah. Sanders in PPR has given you six and seven points just on his receiving numbers alone the last two weeks. Yeah, and the thing about Sanders, like the Patriots have been great against pass-catching running backs, but he has faced other teams that have been really good

against pass-catching running backs, and he's had big games. He had 86 yards and a touchdown against Minnesota, three catches for 44 yards against Buffalo. Those teams have been very good against pass-catching running backs and he's had big games. He had 86 yards and a touchdown against Minnesota. Three catches for 44 yards against Buffalo. Those teams have been very good against pass catching running backs. He is a weapon for them and they don't have a lot of offensive

weapons in my opinion. They're slow and boring. I believe he's outscored Michelle in PPR the last two games. It wouldn't surprise me. We're not starting out Sean Jeffrey or a wide receiver, right? No, Ertz is the only one. Ertz is a start. What about Goddard?

He's in that Howard Boyle fant. Can he catch a touchdown? Yeah. Maybe. Ertz is back in your top six, so everybody start him. How do we feel about the Pats DST this week? Not nearly

as high as in the past, but still top 12. If you kept them through their bye and you can't easily replace them or don't want to replace them because it means carrying two DSTs, you go with them. Yeah, I wouldn't get cute and play the Raiders over them or don't want to replace them because it means carrying two DSTs, you go with them. Yeah, I wouldn't get cute and play the Raiders over them or

the Jets or the Redskins over them. You know, three of the streaming options that are on the table, too. Do you have them ranked ahead of the Patriots? No. No, I still stick with the Patriots. I mean, it's Belichick coming off a bye week, so I'll trust that. All right, here we go. Two more games. We can run through these pretty quickly here. We've talked about a lot of these

players. Cincinnati at Oakland. If you want to, here's your stat Two more games. We can run through these pretty quickly here. We've talked about a lot of these players. Cincinnati at Oakland. Here's your stat of the game. I think it's a helpful one, Heath. Oakland wide receivers the last three games. Tyrell Williams has 15 targets. Hunter Renfro has 16. Renfro has five more catches, 20 more yards, and one more touchdown. So he's just been flat out better than Tyrell Williams in the last three games.

What do you think about that, Heath Cummings? That was probably the best stat of the game that you've given in the last two games. I would agree with that. So you said you start Tyrell Williams. How do you feel about Hunter Renfro in this game? I think he can get you eight PPR points. He's been more involved. He's actually been hurting Williams and Darren Waller.

And what I've noticed is that defenses are trying to take away our guy Waller. And Carr is being smart with the football, and he's going in a different direction. Renfro has been that direction. Would you start Stefan Diggs or Hunter Renfro? I'd probably go with Diggs. Okay. But how about that lack of enthusiasm for Diggs? I was very enthusiastic.

I'm very enthusiastic. You're putting your money down on Diggs over Hunter Renfro? Yes, I am extremely enthusiastic about that. So sticking with the Raiders here, Josh Jacobs is top six in both formats. You guys have faith in Darren Waller. Jamie, why is Waller, just pulling up the rankings, he's top four.

Why is Waller so high? Because the Bengals stink. Excellent. Well, that's a big part of it, but also these players are in random analysts' top tens this week at tight end. Jason Witten, Jared Cook, Noah Fant, Greg Olson, Gerald Everett. Probably one of the Colts. Like, there's only five good tight ends.

Right. And so anyone that's been reliable has a chance. I mean, they just got abused by Mark Andrews and Nick Boyle. Look, they were terrible against the Ravens tight ends. Before that, they did pretty well. I mean, Kittle had 54 yards. Mark Andrews. Oh, Mark Andrews and Nick Boyle. Look, they were terrible against the Ravens tight ends. Before that, they did pretty well. I mean, Kittle had 54 yards. Mark Andrews... Oh, Mark Andrews...

I'm going to guess Kittle had a touchdown callback. It's just something that happens. Gerald Everett was bad. They weren't that good, but they weren't completely bad. The Bengals' defense versus tight ends doesn't matter. Fair. So Derek Carr.

Derek Carr. Who are you starting Derek Carr over? Carson Wentz Tom Brady James Winston Josh Allen that's interesting I think all three of those I agree with all of those I'll start him over

Wentz I'll start him over Cousins Bob obviously Baker Kyler him I've got Kyler a spot ahead of Carr. I'm feeling Kyler this week. I know you guys disagree. Okay. Derek Carr's top 12 quarterback. He's fourth

for Heath and seventh for Jamie and 12th for Dave. And Matt Ryan or Derek Carr is kind of interesting. I like Carr better. I know Dave's taking Matt Ryan. Jamie, who are you taking? Yeah, I am.

I'd go Matt Ryan for now, but I have a decision to make in the league with that, and I'm going back and forth on it. Cool. Any interest in Tyler Eifert, guys? The Raiders are awful against tight ends. Third most fantasy points. Seven touchdowns to tight ends.

Eifert's been good. Two straight games. Any interest here? Yeah, deeper leagues. He scored 10 PPR points in back-to-back weeks. I think it's a matter of he could benefit if Alex Erickson's out. I was hoping for more targets from him last week, though. Like, I'm happy he scored.

He got you 20 yards. I was hoping for, you know, seven targets. Yeah, he has one game with more than 27 yards this season. So he's a touchdown or bust tight end. Against a pretty good matchup to be a touchdown or bust tight end. Sure, that's true. We already talked about Tyler Boyd. If you missed that, go back to the Start, Sit, or Flex It Best segment.

You can check that in the time codes. Last question here. Joe Mixon or Jordan Howard? Howard and non-Mixon in PPR. I think I have Mixon ahead in both, but I think it's very close. I would take Howard in both. Final game is Buffalo and Miami. Josh Allen is very safe.

He's a top 10 quarterback. He's eighth for Dave and Jamie. He's ninth for Heath. 19 or more fantasy points in all but two games. Doesn't usually have a huge game, but one of his best games. His best game in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues was against Miami,

and he scored 25 fantasy points. Not quite his best game in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues was against Miami, and he scored 25 fantasy points. Not quite his best game in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, but he doesn't go crazy, but he ain't going to hurt you, and Josh Allen's a start. Devin Singletary, he ain't going to hurt you. Hammer, don't hurt him. He averages 34

fantasy points per game against the Dolphins this career. In two games? Three. Devin Singletary, you have a ton of faith in him, guys. Top 13 in non-PPR and top 12 in PPR.

Heath, why so much faith in a guy who I think had eight carries last week? Well, he had eight carries because they didn't run the ball very much against the Browns. He still was the lead back on the team. He still averaged five yards per carry and he had seven carries because they didn't run the ball very much against the Browns. He still was the lead back on the team. He still averaged five yards per carry, and he had seven targets in the game. I don't, like last week for me wasn't quite as big of a step back as it seems like it was for some people. I still expect him to lead this team in carries.

I still expect him to be the most targeted running back, and he's facing the Dolphins. Please don't give Frank Gore the ball near the goal line. If you don't do that, Devin Singletary is going to have a big game. Start John Brown. He's the top 15 wide receiver. 75 or more yards in four of his last five games. Cole Beasley is a solid streaming

option here, and pretty similar to Devontae Parker, right, in terms of rankings? For me, yes. Cool. And Kalen Balazs, is he a top 30 running back this week? Pretty similar to Devontae Parker, right, in terms of rankings? For me, yes. Yep. Cool. And Kalen Balazs, is he a top 30 running back this week? No.

He might be by default. In non-PPR, he's close. In PPR, no. I'm going to make a bold prediction. Uh-oh. He's going to be 60 yards and a touchdown, Kalen Balazs. You think they're going to run the ball 32 times? Wildcat, Kalen Balazs.

I haven't looked, but I'm guessing the Bills DST is number one this week. I'm not sure if Kalen Balazs plays 20 snaps. How many yards did you say? 60 and a touchdown. Are you thinking of that here, Keith? No, I'm just looking to see how many of his games you would have to combine to get 60 and a touchdown. That's awesome. Well, Mark Walton had 66 yards against the Bills on 14 carries.

So if Mark Walton can do it, then Caleb Balazs certainly can. All right, we're out of here, everybody. Thank you for listening. And NFC home games tomorrow, plus Thursday night football. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah, nah.