Fantasy Football Today - 11/16: Mailbag! (Record Fri.) (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 16, 2019

Going through the big news including Jay Ajayi's potential return to PHI (2:30). Should you add him? If Jordan Howard is out, will Miles Sanders be a stud against NE? Then we talk DFS (7:45) with some... tips for this week, read your Apple Podcast questions (11:48), do a little Regulatin' (18:00) and then get to your trade questions (22:00) and Start or Sit questions (30:50) at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We've got some injury updates for you and some Jay Ajayi talk. Finally, a reason to go add Jay Ajayi, or should you? Welcome to the show. This is the Fantasy Football Today Road Tour presented by Little Caesars. Pizza for dinner tonight? How about ordering your favorite online from Little Caesars and using Pizza Portal Pickup?
Starting point is 00:01:42 It's the latest, greatest, and hottest way to pick up a pizza without even going to the register. I'm Adam Azer, and here's Ben Gretsch. What up, Ben? Hey, how's it going? Yeah, the JJ news, very interesting, definitely. I'm glad that he's landed a spot, I guess. Now, it's about 3 o'clock Eastern on Friday.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I hope that this is more about Darren Sproles and Jordan Howard, but Howard is nursing a stinger and might not play this week. So we'll get into that in a moment. Let's do some quick news and notes, and we'll read your emails via Apple Podcast and fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We've got one regulators question. We've got starter sit and trades and such.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And DFS. We're going to give some DFS tips. And I apologize. My voice is gone. I'm sorry. So I'll just let... Ben, why don't you do the show? Yeah, I mean, why would you have a voice?
Starting point is 00:02:40 You only do like 75 shows a week, right? Yeah, not that many. Seven shows. Seven shows a week right like yeah not that many seven shows seven shows a week uh plus radio so eight and uh i yell at people all the time i yell at everyone and it's just caught up with me matt yeah it might be that shut up man shut the hell up bye all right matthew stafford is out we knew that was coming bang Bengals cornerback, Dray Kirkpatrick. Patrick, he's on IR, and that's good news for his opponents because he had been doing a pretty good job,
Starting point is 00:03:11 or at least their pass defense has gotten worse since he's been out. Alshon Jeffrey mispracticed. He may not play. You're not going to start him anyway. But what about Nelson Aguilar? Would you have any interest in Nelson Aguilar? No, not really. I'm not real interested in the Ph the philly passing game against new england
Starting point is 00:03:26 jacoby brissett is going to start that's good news and if you don't want zach paschal this week that's understandable they get houston next week not not the worst stash well let's talk about the eagles jordan howard limited in practice darren sproles out for the season and i don't think it's official yet maybe it just has become official but last i saw was they were going to sign jay so i hope for the sake of this show it actually happens by the time people hear this on saturday but what's your take on this jay as a friday afternoon was owned in just three percent of cbs leagues yeah i mean i think obviously he has some familiarity with the system in the team uh i i he's not the type of back that i go gung-ho for he's he hasn't had a huge receiving role in the
Starting point is 00:04:13 past especially while he was with the eagles he's basically the definition of a trap back uh i i think mile sanders will continue to have a big role in the passing game and i i don't expect the jj would come right in and be the lead uh you know so he might even play behind Sanders or behind Boston Scott on early downs I think he like if he if he suits up this week which if they sign him I think it's a possibility they could get him out there as quick as this week uh if Howard's out but I yeah I I'm seeing him as more of a direct replacement for Howard so would you consider adding starting starting, anything with JGI? Yeah, I mean, I think if you're desperate,
Starting point is 00:04:50 if you're in situations where you don't really have running backs, yeah, you want to look at him. You want to look at him as a guy who, in the right game matchups and scripts where the Eagles look like they might be run heavy, assuming Howard's out, he certainly has 15 carry upside in that type of situation. Now, I wouldn't play him against New England. Do you think he has them this week?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Because New England's run defense has been its weakness. Mark Ingram ran all over them. Nick Chubb ran all over them. If you're going to beat, I think even Frank Gore had a good game against them. If you're going to beat New England, you're going to have to run the football. So I'm really excited if Howard's out. I'm very excited about miles sanders do you think week one you know two days after he signs jay jay has a big role yeah i mean those would be the the
Starting point is 00:05:33 two elements right like one um would like can he run on new england and there's some indications that it's possible right but two does he have a big role and that's i i wouldn't i wouldn't trust it i wouldn't trust in in two days that he's gonna big role? And that's, I wouldn't trust it. I wouldn't trust in two days that he's going to play more. I might use Miles Sanders. I mean, I probably will use him in a couple of leagues. I haven't been in quite a few leagues. Oh, yeah. No, like, I think you're going to have to start
Starting point is 00:05:53 talking about Miles Sanders versus Brian Hill. You know, Miles Sanders versus, like, Todd Gurley, Joe Mixon. I think he's going to be in that number two running back range. And, you know, this is what I'm going to say. I pretty much guarantee by the time you listen or by the time you set your lineups, there's going to be a report that says
Starting point is 00:06:17 Miles Sanders is expected to get the bulk of the carries or JGI is going to get some work. We'll know more. So I feel like, Ben, I don't know that we should speculate right now because we don't have the information, but it will come out. That's my guess. But I think Miles Sanders could have a really nice game. He could be basically every down back.
Starting point is 00:06:38 He's got that opportunity against the Patriots. Yeah, no, I agree. I think of the two, he's the one that you'd be interested in trying to use it you're right there probably will be a report we would to consider a jai we'd have to get a report that's like he's going he's because he's he's not even signed yet here on friday so it would have to be like he's going to play a ton you know espn's josh weinfuss says that it looks as if kenyan drake has moved ahead of ahead of David Johnson on the depth chart. So this is a situation where I, like as of now, haven't gotten a report about J.J. in his role.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I'm starting Miles Sanders over either Cardinals running back. How about you? Yeah, I mean, it would be close for me. I think the thing I wrote about in Signals last week that if you want to find any optimism, David Johnson, it's hard right now, but he did run a lot of routes given the number of snaps he played. And I do think there's some possibility that he transitions into more of like,
Starting point is 00:07:34 essentially like what we've seen with Kareem hunt in Cleveland, where he's splitting out a little bit more and they're using Drake is more than every now and back, which is something that was being floated a few weeks back to get chase Edmonds on the field more to use Edmonds as the running back and use David Johnson more split out wide and in a receiving role, he could still have some receiving value. I think it does not really surprise me either that,
Starting point is 00:07:56 that we're hearing that Drake's playing ahead of him in like the lead running back role. And by the way, every time I say start miles Sanders, that is contingent on Jordan Howard missing the game, which is not a certainty yet. David Montgomery is questionable, and Trey Burton and Adam Shaheen are out.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Uh-oh. And Adam Thielen is out against Denver. So David Montgomery questionable. Rams very good against the run, very good against pass-catching running backs. Starters sit Tariq Cohen if Montgomery doesn't play. Yeah, I would probably play him. I mean, the only other guy they have on the roster right now is Ryan Nall.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So Nall could get some run. Probably we won't see Cohen get 15 carries. I think Nall would probably work in. But they just brought him up from the practice squad. I think we would probably see them lean more heavily on Cohen. And so I think I would use him if it was in question. So how many,
Starting point is 00:08:50 I don't know how many DFS lineups you got, but I'm sure Miles Sanders will be popular. Brian Hill's going to be popular. Any players you particularly like or dislike this week for DFS? Hill's one that I don't really see as high of an upside, I think. And I think he's going to be on enough rosters that he's an interesting guy to consider fading this week in tournaments.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Because, number one, last week Atlanta was in a good game situation to run the ball a lot. And it worked out well for him as he took over for Devonta Freeman. They don't find themselves in those types of situations a lot. I think they'll probably lose at Carolina. And then number two, he ran nine pass routes. He caught a touchdown, but he ran nine pass routes to Kenyon Barners,
Starting point is 00:09:33 the number three running backs eight. And I actually think Barner might play a little bit more in pass, pass down. So he'll could end up being kind of trappy, you know, running more than playing in the passing game. There's upside there, but we just don't know what his role will be. He's just so cheap.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah. Well, he's like $4,800 on DraftKings. He's a lot cheaper on FanDuel. I mean, he's the last running back on FanDuel. I think he was $5,900 on FanDuel. He's one of the last ones that you really couldn't consider, although I got to be honest, I don't know of Miles Sanders. I think he's cheaper than Miles Sanders.
Starting point is 00:10:11 But I would spend a little more to get Sanders if Howard's out. But he's so cheap. He allows you to do so much. You got JD McKissick in the same price range. And then after that, I mean, you know, like James White's more expensive. Sonny Michelle's more expensive. I like James White, by the way. But it's hard to find a running back that's going to get big work
Starting point is 00:10:26 that's less expensive than Brian Hill. No, I do agree with that. Yeah, I think he could be a bust, too. I'm a little worried about him. They can't run on anyone. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what I was going to say. The Falcons' offense has just not been very great
Starting point is 00:10:42 for running back production, for Freeman even. So just because Hill scored last week, I don't necessarily think we should. It was a good situation for running back production last week because they were out ahead. Yeah, it's a good situation. It's a great matchup. Second most fantasy points allowed at running backs.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That's what Brian Hill's facing with the Panthers. And they have actually faced a lot of good run defenses this year. So this would have been a nice week for Devante Freeman, I by the way Miles Sanders $300 cheaper than Brian Hill all right so other guys on FanDuel I talked about this on the video show on Friday I am avoiding Mark Ingram he's way too expensive I don't think I'm gonna get any pushback from Ben there. Nope. No, it's a tough, tough run D for Houston. So yeah, definitely one that I agree with there. And I, I don't like if you start Ezekiel Elliott and Josh Jacobs, they are 8,408,000.
Starting point is 00:11:37 They're the third and fourth most expensive running backs. Do you feel like you need a great game from them? Or would 80 yards and a touchdown suffice? But if you spend that money on Zeke and Jacobs, do you feel like you need one of them to have two touchdowns and a massive game? Yeah, I think you're probably hoping for multiple touchdown upsides. Jacobs is one of my favorite plays of the week, though. I think Oakland should—they're huge favorites. They should be expected to control the game at home.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They've been a lot better than Cincinnati this year. And Cincinnati's run has been really bad. So I really like Jacobs this week, presuming that his health is all there because we're not 100% sure on that. Are there any other players you want to throw out that you like or don't like? Yeah, I mean, we talked a little about DJ Moore on Wednesday's show,
Starting point is 00:12:20 and I think he's a really good option this week against Atlanta's secondary, who's just been getting crushed by wide receivers, and Moore's volume has been so consistent. He's very clearly their number one right now. I think this is the week where he gets in the end zone. Okay. Trufant is expected to play in this game,
Starting point is 00:12:36 but they still, as Dave pointed out on our video show, they're still pretty bad against receivers before his injury. Let's do some start or sit. DJ Moore is so cheap on Fandle, too. He's less than Samuel. It's weird. Let's do some start or sit. DJ Moore is so cheap on FanDuel, too. He's less than Curtis Samuel. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:12:50 It's a lack of touchdowns. I mean, they just haven't really adjusted. All right, here we go. Apple Podcasts, start or sit. Justin from a small town in South Carolina. Oh, man. I only know big towns. Charleston is pretty big.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That's got to be pretty big, yeah. Start, Brian Hill or Tevin Coleman? See, I would go Tevin Coleman there, and pretty easily. I think with Breida likely out, we'll probably see some Raheem Moser, but he's had a little bit of a knee issue as well. So I think we'll see a lot of Coleman in, again, similar situations as Josh Jacobs. Double-digit favorites should be a really good situation for running back production. Yeah, and then you can send a flex question.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Would you start Brian Hill or Debo Samuel or Devante Parker? I would go Debo Samuel, I think. Presuming that Emmanuel Sanders and Kittle are both out, it's a little sketch to be playing both the 49ers, but it is a game where they should score plenty of points and be a little bit more up-tempo, have a little bit more volume because the Cardinals like to play fast as well.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And I think Samuel's a pretty good sleeper this week. From It's F1, not McLovin. No, we've had him before. It's Troublemaker. PPR, start one wide receiver and one flex. Allen Robinson, McLovin, Devontae Parker, and Ronald Jones. One wide receiver and a flex. Allen Robinson, McLaurin, Parker, and Jones.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, I can't trust McLaurin. Really? With Dwayne Haskins and QB. I mean, I know I like the matchup, but I just can't. I think they're going to run the ball. Especially, yeah, I mean, since Callahan like the matchup, but I just can't. I think they're going to run the ball. Especially, yeah, I mean, since Callahan's taken over, they just love running the ball. And I can't trust Devontae Parker
Starting point is 00:14:29 going up against Tredavious White. So almost by default, I do still really like Ronald Jones this week. But isn't Allen Robinson going to get Jalen Ramsey? Yeah, but Allen Robinson's a lot better than Devontae Parker. But he's not better. But, yeah, no, I agree. I'm not starting parker
Starting point is 00:14:45 it's mclaurin that okay that i'm thinking here uh and honestly like maybe like these none of these guys are slam dunks to me so it's alan robinson mclaurin parker and ronald jones we're i would go a robin jones i like jones because arian's talked up as a receiving role again i wasn't that like he had a lot of receptions last week but he didn't run a ton of routes but then arian said it can even expand from there he's he's learning more routes he's getting even better at in the passing game so i like ron jones and i would play a rob i you know you can make a case for mcclellan over a rob for a quarterback pick one matt ryan or carson wentz i'm gonna go Matt Ryan. I don't want to play Wentz against the Patriots. And for Flex, Hollywood Brown or F1?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Why F1? Half PPR. No, it's definitely F1. Isn't Brown pretty banged up? He missed practice. We'll see if he plays. Obviously, if he doesn't, you've got to go McLaurin. If he plays, I think probably you want to go with him
Starting point is 00:15:44 because I think in this Texans matchup, you beat the Texans down the field. This is from Barry. He says, Dear Dalvin, Devante, and Chris. FSU running back. Hey, good job. Good job. 12-team PPR, choose a flex.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I'm so condescending like I wouldn't expect you to get that. I mean, I've been nailing the college ones all year. Well, you know, I hate FSU, so I know a lot about FSU. So, 12-team PBR, choose a flex. Robert Woods, Joe Mixon, Miles Sanders, Muhammad Sanu, or
Starting point is 00:16:16 Emmanuel Sanders, who won't play. So, most likely. Yeah, that's a... There's a lot of pretty reasonable options there. I like the fact that mixing got up to 30 carries last week after previously never hitting 20 once they switched over to quarterbacks i think he has potential for a big workload even when they're trailing which is what they did last week i wouldn't play him though probably over sanders or sinew sinew's
Starting point is 00:16:40 workload before their buy in their last game before their buy was massive it's not just that he got almost i think he had like one more target than Julian Edelman. He also had almost double the air yards. He was more of a downfield. He was a legitimate number one wide receiver role in that game. So I might go Sanu against the Eagles. I really like him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It's not a bad option. For me, it was either Sanders or Sanu. I was going in that game though. Robert Woods isn't a bad fallback option either. From Pixel Bend. Dear Amon, Dorsey, Edgar, and Ryan. Packers-backs. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:13 12-team PPR. You're killing it. Actually, no. Those guys are from Goodfellas. 12-team PPR league. I don't know my mobsters movies. Star J.D. McKissick, Brian Hill, or Dus geis it's got to be mckissick or hill we just don't know enough about i mean i i'm i'm excited as anyone to use guys but we don't know
Starting point is 00:17:31 enough to use them i and the jets are a pretty decent run d actually for all their flaws um i would go hill yeah me too christian kirk tyrell williams or curtis samuel this is really hard. Kirk against the Niners is tough. He's the guy, like, you know. I'm eliminating him. That's the one I said. See ya.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah, I think you can eliminate him. I'll go Samuel. I really do think the Falcons will get beat down the field, even with Trufant. And final question from Apple Podcasts from Niners4Life. Aaron Jones or Leonard Fournette, rest of the season? Fournette. Okay, I want to bring up one thing with Fournette.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Tough, sketchy. Schedule. Tough one. Was it schedule? Yep. Sorry, I talked over you. No, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's always schedule. I don't look at the schedule enough, so I love that you're always on top of that. But you just have to love his workload so much more than we're not sure what we're going to get from Jones. You know, his passing role was great when Adams was out. It's been less so when he's been back. And Jamal Williams is playing half the snaps, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:38 This is really interesting because Aaron Jones has a great schedule and Fournette has a below average one. And you knew Ben was going to take Fournette. You might be thinking, hey, what's Adam going to do? I'm also going to take Fournette. So I don't care that much about schedule. I mean, the touches are just so... And the catches, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, the catches are just so much more secure. Leonard Fournette, the PPR machine, just like that Ronald Jones fella. All right, everybody. Let's do it. One regulator's question today, and it comes from someone whose name I do not have. So I'm in a 16-team redraft league with the first two rounds as keeper rounds. A playoff-bound team, the commissioner, made what appears to be a totally one-sided trade.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Got it. Nice. And I did it, you know, that was so smooth. A totally one-sided trade with one of the last place teams who needs a quarterback. So the commissioner's going to the playoffs. He made a one-sided trade with a team that needs a quarterback, and that team's in last place.
Starting point is 00:19:47 His guys are hurt. There are literally no quarterbacks on the waiver wire. So the first place team gave up A.J. Green, Nick Foles, and Gardner Minshew and got back Melvin Gordon and Jack Doyle. A.J. Green, Nick Foles, and Minshew to the last place team for Melvin Gordon and Jack Doyle to the first place team.
Starting point is 00:20:12 There are a few of us that feel like this ruins the integrity of the league. I really don't want to be um I as I have never towed oh is that short for veto? He just wrote tow instead of veto? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I have never vetoed a trade in my 12 years of playing fantasy football, but this just seems like a ludicrous trade. Also, why is Heath so mean to Adam? I can't comment on that last question, but... Entertainment value. Why is this such a ludicrous trade? It's a keeper league i mean i i i think you're probably not keeping aj green in the first two rounds but presumably the last place
Starting point is 00:20:53 team like are you mad that because they're in last place team in last place they tried to acquire a quarterback and be competitive the rest of the year i mean usually you don't see people get upset that like teams are trying to be competitive so So they acquired both the Jacksonville quarterbacks so they could be competitive. As far as the keeper's concerned, yeah, they traded away Melvin Gordon and they added A.J. Green. I could see A.J. Green being,
Starting point is 00:21:13 and he's probably not going to be a top two round pick next year, but is it Melvin Gordon going to be for sure? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I guess it's a little bit weird. This is fine. It's a lopsided trade. I mean, the team that got Melvin Gordon wins.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But this doesn't rise to that level of hurting the integrity of the league. I think you agree with that, right? Yeah, I do. I mean, I see the point, I guess. The more I'm digging into it is like, why is the guy in last place making this trade? Because he's not going to keep any of these players, right? So he's giving up Melvin Gordon to a top team. And if the first two rounds are keepers,
Starting point is 00:21:46 you're probably not actually going to keep A.J. Green in the first two rounds. There's actually almost no way. So at first I was looking at name value, A.J. Green, maybe he's a keeper, but he's really probably not going to be. So I guess you'd probably hope that if he was going to trade Gordon,
Starting point is 00:21:59 he'd at least get somebody back that he could potentially keep in the first two rounds. But if he needs to win, I mean, let's forget about the keepers for a second if he needs to win and he's still not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs i mean he probably would rather have melvin gordon but he needs a quarterback so he just got the jaguars guys and maybe aj green comes back and actually contributes so they're too this is not a slam dunk terrible trade. I think you got to let it slide and don't tow it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Thank you very much for your email. We got more trades and start or sit at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We're done regulating. I just like to hear the song. Hey, have you ordered a pizza from Little Caesars yet? If you haven't, you're missing out on Pizza Portal pickup. What is Pizza Portal pickup? It's like getting a pizza
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Starting point is 00:22:56 crazy amounts of toppings. It's fun. Give it a try, but it's only available at Little Caesars Pizza Pizza. All right, trades, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. From Zach, I got offered in a half PPR league
Starting point is 00:23:11 my Tevin Coleman for his David Johnson. Give up Tevin Coleman, get David Johnson. What do you think? I would not do that. I mean, Braid is banged up now. We don't know how much time he's going to miss. I thinkman is a a back you can rely on david johnson you can't right now yeah it's it's sad i have david johnson
Starting point is 00:23:33 in a ton of leaks he was one of my favorite first round picks and it's really hurting my my rosters but there's not a lot of upside with that right now knowing that also chase edmonds is going to be back eventually and they're it's it's trending very poorly all right fantasy football at cbsi.com let's get to another one here this is from luke dear david joe lou and dusty those are managers for the Cincinnati Reds. Wow. Good for you. Joe Torre, Lou Piniella, and Dusty Baker are all Reds managers.
Starting point is 00:24:11 David Bell. It's got to be it. Yeah, that is really terrific stuff. That was more impressive than your Jeopardy win. Ben Gretsch, ladies and gentlemen. I was offered Amari Cooper and Phillip Lindsey for my Leonard Fournette and Keenan Allen in a PPR league. Give up Fournette and Allen, get Cooper and Lindsey.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm not going to do that. I think Allen will bounce back. I like Amari Cooper a lot, but I don't see them as being as big of a difference as I think Fournette is an improvement over Lindsey, especially with no Joe Flacco. We've talked about this a little bit, but in PPR, it's going to impact Lindsey's catches going forward.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Lindsey's been good to now. I do think his rest of season is a little bit knocked down because Flacco is no longer the quarterback. Yeah, and you know what? Theo Riddick, what the hell is going on with him? Is he coming back? I don't know. I haven't heard anything,
Starting point is 00:25:06 but he was on IR, and it was a possibility. They're going to bring Drew Locke back, and they can only bring two players back. So that's the first time I've heard that name in a while, but they do have him. They actually do have good matchups going forward. That helps, Lindsey.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But yeah, I agree. Don't do this trade. From Eddie, I'm having a serious issue in my keeper league. We have been doing a non-fab waiver wire, just regular waiver wire, for 15 years plus and after I was mathematically
Starting point is 00:25:32 eliminated from the playoffs, I told the guys that I wanted to bench my lineup to get the best waiver position. A keeper can emerge at any point in the season and I wanted to give myself the best chance to win next year. After an outrage in the league, I told them I would start my lineup this year, but if we don't do a
Starting point is 00:25:48 fab next year, I would use this strategy next year if I got mathematically eliminated. So benching your lineup to get a better waiver wire priority to potentially pick up a keeper. What do you think? Give me your opinions. I mean, this is like a regulators and it's pretty good. So
Starting point is 00:26:03 my opinion on this is eddie is wrong i'm sorry eddie and i know you're a loyal listener and i i love you for that but you're wrong on this one i i understand there's like i have seen this in fantasy leagues i've been playing fantasy for over 20 years i've seen this in fantasy leagues all sports that people do these things that are definitely in their best interest but when they're so extreme that they impact the rest of the league to this degree, where you're just giving a team a win that maybe is competing for a playoff spot with a team that you beat earlier in the season, and you're not actually trying to put up a fight at all against that other team,
Starting point is 00:26:37 you're impacting the way that the playoffs might shake out. You're impacting who wins the league this year to this degree, where you're not even putting a team out there. You can't stand for that in fantasy. There has to be at least some level of trying well that's why i've never seen anything like this because all of my leagues require a legal lineup you know okay well that's yeah i mean that's that you should do that yeah you should do a legal lineup make that case and yes this is tanking and it's not good but i it i like the argument for fab certainly makes things interesting when you get the keeper aspect in there and saving your fab for for guys who show up on the waiver wire i like that
Starting point is 00:27:16 yeah no i i agree with that but just like to reiterate like i've i've seen like you've never seen this in any kind of league where like people do things that are obviously in the interest of their team, but it's, like, so bad for the league if they just. You know, here's the thing. I could be having more fun playing fantasy. I need to be in more fun leagues because all of my leagues are, most of my leagues are analyst leagues. And, like, most of the people. Everyone has 50 leagues. Yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 00:27:45 They take it seriously. I mean, they set their lineups, but there's not that much trading going on. We don't always know each other. I don't have one of those long time. I don't I don't have any friends, Ben. Oof, this is getting sad. Let's move on. OK, from Connor.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Who should I drop to pick up a tight end for this week? Sean McCoy, Latavius Murray, Kenyon Drake, Jacob Hollister, Alexander Madison, or Adrian Peterson? For me, it'd be McCoy or Peterson. Peterson, I don't know when you're really
Starting point is 00:28:21 going to love using him with Geist being around the rest of the way. McCoy, I don't know what the deal was with the rest thing last week. We'll have to see coming up this week. But he only played six naps the week before. So was he really even in need of rest? It just kind of seemed like a cover story. The week before, was that the week he fumbled?
Starting point is 00:28:42 No, that was the week before that. He fumbled in the end of the third quarter, and Damian Williams played the whole fourth. And then the following week, he started again in like the end of the third quarter and damian williams played the whole fourth and then the following week he started again mccoy but only played six snaps and then a week after that he's inactive for a rest week that he shouldn't really have needed since he only played six snaps the week before yeah that's a long long little vacation okay from sam i haven't done it yet but i got got offered Tyree kill and Jared golf for my Lamar Jackson and Christian Kirk. My quarterbacks would be Wentz and golf.
Starting point is 00:29:12 The rest of my lineup would be Chubb, Aaron Jones, Devante Adams, and Tyree kill. That's pretty good. So would you give up that quarterback? Would you give up Lamar Jackson and Christian Kirk to get Tyree kill and Jared golf?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah. I mean, this is tough. Lamar Jackson is a difference maker. I'm always the, you can trade quarterbacks guy. At this point in the season, we can feel very confident that Lamar Jackson is a difference maker. So it's not as easy at this point, but Tyreek Hill is a massive difference maker too. And I like Christian Kirk as well, but Tyreek Hill might be the wide receiver one the rest of the way. I really believe in him. So I would take Hill, and I would stream quarterback or play Wentz or Goff, whatever you've got to do at quarterback to have Hill in your lineup. There are going to be very few weeks where I feel good about Jared Goff.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I know he's got a matchup against Arizona, but for Wentz, after this Patriots game, maybe there's one more tough matchup. Things do get a lot better. I wish he had Deshaun Jackson. I do, but you could feel better about Wentz going forward. All right, we got some starter questions to end the show. You said Deshaun.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Oh. Jackson. You wish Wentz had Deshaun Jackson. Yes, I'm sorry. I wish he had Deshaun Jackson. Even with the great matchups, I'm not convinced he's going to be able to take advantage of them, but he does have a very good schedule.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I never realized this, but I thought you were still talking about the trade, and I thought you meant Deshaun Watson or Lamar Jackson, and I thought you were jamming their names together, but Deshaun Jackson is an entirely different player. Do the trade is basically what we're trying to say. And if you need... Okay, you're out there.
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Starting point is 00:32:13 or Ross Dwelly? I would go with Dwelly. I like Dwelly this week, man. He's been playing a lot of snaps with Kittle out both the last two weeks. He got seven targets last week. They did throw a lot more last week.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But it's a great matchup for him. And the 49ers need pass catchers. Howard, I've said before, I really like his talent. Four of his catches came on the two-minute drill drive. Or excuse me, three of his four. Two-minute drill drive right before halftime in the first half. And he was otherwise kind of just not really involved throughout the rest of
Starting point is 00:32:50 the game. So it was nice to see him do some things and catch a touchdown, but I want to see more and I feel more comfortable streaming dwelling. All right. Next email. I got, I don't know this greeting. I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:04 I've got most of it. It's from Wes in Oakland. Hey, Jameis, Jared, blank, Baker, and Kyler. So these are quarterbacks who went number one overall. Yeah, it's the last five number one overall picks. So who was in between there? Jameis, Jared, Baker, and Kyler. Why can't we think of it?
Starting point is 00:33:24 It wasn't Cam Newton. No, he Kyler. Why can't we think of it? It wasn't Cam Newton. No, he was earlier. No, well, it was the year Trubisky went, too. Was Miles Garrett the number one overall pick? Well, that doesn't fit that. Oh, it's just the last five? Number one picks is what I'm reading. Oh, okay, it's not just the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Or top draft quarterbacks. I don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah, it is miles garrett and he said you want to guess who that blank is it should be easy after last night's brawl i mean football game okay miles garrett way to go west way to promote miles garrett ppr i nailed it you are on fire dude yeah i'm nailed very proud of you uh okay i appreciate it ppr start a running back and two flex so pick the running back mark ingram joe mixon james white oh ppr yeah man it makes me almost want to go white but i think you go ingram for a little bit
Starting point is 00:34:23 i don't man i don't know This is a tough one for me. Ingram's in a tough matchup. I like Mixon's increase in usage, and I think you can consider him in a matchup with the Raiders. White might be the safest as a PPR guy in a tough rushing matchup for New England. I do think White's going to be involved. I have good news. Well, I'm going to start at least two of them. I would take Ingram.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Wouldn't feel great about it, but I would go with Ingram because he just has that chance to score. Actually, I really don't like Ingram this week. Yeah, he's tough. I would go with Ingram. He has been a more efficient runner than most backs in the league because of the presence of Lamar Jackson. Maybe he can find more holes against Houston's good run D than most backs in the league because of the presence of Lamar Jackson. Maybe he can find more holes against,
Starting point is 00:35:05 against Houston's good run D than most other backs have. And then you can still start, uh, two of them because you need to flex out of mixing James white, Jamison Crowder and DD Westbrook. I love James Crowder this week. I, you do,
Starting point is 00:35:22 you do. Yeah. Yeah, I do too. I was going to say I'd play him. I don't think I would play D.D. Westbrook quite yet. I want to see how healthy he is, but I think I'd go Crowder and then two of the backs,
Starting point is 00:35:36 but man, I don't even know which two backs. I do kind of like Mixon this week. No, no, no. All right. So we decided we're doing Ingram, I think. Or we didn't? Yeah, Ingram, Crowder, and White. There you go.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And I'm not happy about sitting mixing. Oh, sorry. I thought you were going to pick another one. Thank you, Wes, for making us sweat. From Max in New York City. Dear Todd, Dak, Alvin, and Saquon. These are the last four rookies of the year offensively. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Who do you think is going to be fifth? Who do you think is going to be next? Josh Jacobs. Well, Kyler. It could be Kyler, but Jacobs has been doing well enough that I think he might get it. Yeah. McLaurin has got a case.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Daniel Jones. Dwayne, half P br start two out of three mixon gallop galladay i'm gonna go mix in and gallop with stafford out i know galladay scored last week but that long touchdown was pretty much all his production with driscoll under center his situation's not quite as good with Stafford out. It's a lot worse. O.J. Howard or Gerald Everett? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Everett's a little banged up. I think I'll go Howard, but I do like Everett. Yeah, I like Everett. I don't like the Rams this week. I just don't like the Rams really at all right now. Their offensive line is so banged up, and they've really been struggling lately lately and they're playing the Bears. It's not a great situation.
Starting point is 00:37:08 All right, here we go. This is from Raul in a town north of Disneyland. Santa something. Disneyland. Yeah, Santa something. Santa Barbara or Clarita or Anna. Santa Claus. I've got too many players to pick from.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I need two wide receivers, two running backs, and a flex. It is not PPR. So here are the wide receivers. Looks like there are only two. Oh, no. They're spread out. Mike Evans, Cortland Sutton, Emmanuel Sanders, and Tyrell Williams. I will eliminate Sanders.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Evans, Sutton, and Tyrell. Yeah, Evans and Sutton, Emmanuel Sanders, and Tyrell Williams. I will eliminate Sanders. Evans, Sutton, and Tyrell. Yeah, Evans and Sutton for me. Actually, I think you can play Tyrell over Sutton. Let's go Evans and Tyrell. Two running backs, Mark Ingram, Alvin Kamara, Devin Singletary, Jordan Howard, Kenyon Drake. Alvin Kamara. Yeah. I'll play Singletary against miami over ingram that's a guy that i would play over ingram you know we were talking about having some concerns about ingram and a flex camara and singletary and then a flex drake is interesting it's not ppr you got to go with three running backs let's go ingram now ingram camara singletary ev Evans Tyrell. That's what I'm going to lock in. From Eric, Hunter Henry or Alan Robinson, PPR?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Robinson. No. Sorry, Hunter Henry. I wasn't even actually like, I love Alan Robinson. I was so quick to answer him. No, yeah, I think you can go Hunter Henry here. I didn't really even like. Yeah, I don't like, what did you think?
Starting point is 00:38:43 It was Derek Henry? Because we can't really say, even though he's on his bye. I don't even know who I thought it was. I can't even tell you. You apparently like Robinson. You like Robinson. That's very funny. But Hunter Henry, would you, sir?
Starting point is 00:38:55 I don't want to bully you. Would you really go Hunter Henry over Robinson? No, I would. I wasn't thinking. I mean, maybe I read Hunter Henry and wasn't realizing just how good he's been lately because he's been way better than a typical tight end. His volume has been really consistent. Maybe I was just thinking tight end,
Starting point is 00:39:08 but I glossed over him quick. All right. We've got a few more from Nick. Need a running back. Standard scoring. Brian Hill, Damian Williams, Royce Freeman,
Starting point is 00:39:20 Darius Geis. Not Freeman for the issues with Flacco that I've been talking about. I love Freeman's talents, but he's not a guy. I'm just not targeting those Denver backs anymore because they're splitting work and no longer have as much work. It's not Geis, so it's Hill or Williams. I'm going to go Williams. From Jordan.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Dear Turkey, stuffing, potatoes, and gravy. I think you can get this one. Yeah, I'm going to rank them though. Stuffing. Hold on. You need to tell me is it mashed potatoes or sweet potatoes? Well, they already got gravy. So let's say sweet potatoes for that.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And the gravy is like a part of the mashed potatoes. No, gravy is separate. Okay. Okay, number one is... Rank both potatoes. Okay. Okay. So this would be sweet
Starting point is 00:40:13 potatoes, stuffing, turkey, mashed potatoes, gravy. That would be my ranking. Gravy last? Which is a surprise. I don't really like turkey very much, but I'm also not a huge mashed potato guy. Gravy, I don't need it. Gravy over turkey over gravy.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I don't need it. You know, if you have a good slice of meat, you shouldn't need gravy. You shouldn't need a condiment. I mean, that's true of like a steak. That's not true of turkey. If it's good, if it's a good juicy slice of turkey, you should not need gravy. I like turkey, but these are all really delicious things to be eating. And I'm going to put turkey last on this list.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I'm usually a meat guy, but turkey is kind of like the dry part of the meal. You do want to get some gravy on there. Maybe mashed potatoes would be last for me. I don't know. Turkey stinks, man. Ham. I am all about the Thanksgiving ham. I miss a game with that too.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I miss a home for Thanksgiving. They don't do ham up here with the in-laws. All right. 16 team keeper league. I find myself staring at the waiver wire menu of Driscoll, Finley, Haskins, and Allen. I'm guessing this is great because there are three Allens that are starting right now?
Starting point is 00:41:29 It's got to be Brandon Allen. It could be Kyle Allen. Well, if it is, it's clearly Kyle Allen you should go with, but if it's Brandon Allen, would you go Driscoll? You can't just give us last names where there's three starting quarterbacks with that last name. Driscoll, Finley, Haskins, or Brandon Allen, who would you go with? I'll go Driscoll, Finley, Haskins, or Brandon Allen, who would you go with?
Starting point is 00:41:47 I'll go Driscoll. He's got a lot of mobility, I think. Finley's in play too, but I'll go Driscoll. I just think there's a little bit more rushing upside there. He'll do something. This is from Mike. He says, dear Mike, Peter, Mickey, and Davey. Are those like Brady Bunch?
Starting point is 00:42:11 Or the Monkees? The Monkees. I have no idea. Yeah, those are the Monkees. Those are the Monkees. I knew it. Damn it. Davey Jones.
Starting point is 00:42:20 10-team PPR league. Sit one of these guys. Hopkins, Evans, Jacobs, Keenan Allen, or Melvin Gordon? It's actually an easy call for me. That's an easy call for you. Yeah, I don't know that I'm going to get it right, but I see these guys and I see Keenan Allen, and I'm just like, nope, you're not making the cut.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Against Kansas City? Well, who are you gonna start who you're gonna sit hopkins evans without latimore jacob i mean full ppr keenan allen against kansas city is pretty enticing he's probably gonna get a lot of targets all right all right tough guy who you're gonna start i'm going to i'm looking at all the matchups you're not sitting hopkins even though the ravens is not a great matchup you're not sitting Hopkins, even though the Ravens is not a great matchup. You're not sitting Evans, even though Marshawn Latimer is not a great matchup. He's not playing.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Oh. So you're not sitting Evans. You're definitely not sitting Evans. Yeah. I don't think you're sitting Josh Jacobs. So I guess I would have to sit one of the Chargers. And I would probably wind up sitting Malcolm Gordon. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah. The Chiefs run defense? All run defense all right okay yeah it's not you might be right with keenan allen look i don't want to keep changing your mind that's fine that's fine i my gut feeling says that hopkins might disappoint us but there's zero chance i'm sitting him right so let's run through the rest of your real quick from Dave half PPR, two wide receivers and a flex, please. James White, Robert Woods, Debo Samuel, Calvin Ridley,
Starting point is 00:43:52 Devante Parker. I'm not playing Parker. I like pretty much everyone else on that list, but I think I'm going to sit woods. I'm fine with Debo. And I do like Calvin Ridley this week with Hooper out. And they just traded Sanu.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I do think Ridley's going to have a good second half. I hope so. From Chris, I have Connor and Samuels is on waivers. I don't know why you had to tell us he's Connor. Who do I drop, if anyone, to try and get Jalen Samuels? Jamal Williams, Kareem Hunt, or Todd Gurley?
Starting point is 00:44:25 No one. Oh, I'm sorry. I know why he told us he has Connor. I read that as Carson. I don't know why. Like, I saw it, and I just... It said Connor, and in my mind, I read Carson.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I apologize. I guess you could drop Jamal Williams. That would be the one that I... I would drop Hunt. And I wouldn't drop Gurley, just to, like, you know... Samuels is not even... He played fewer snaps than Trey Edmonds
Starting point is 00:44:48 in place of James Conner last week. He's not even locked in lead back if Conner misses time. Jamie made a good point on HQ. It could be Benny Snell. It very well could be. Yeah, he might play next week. So Samuels will have his role. It'll be a PPR thing,
Starting point is 00:45:02 but you don't necessarily have to do that. Here's a great stat. he ran fewer routes last night or two nights ago because we're releasing this on Saturday than Trey Edmonds Trey Edmonds actually ran more routes than Samuels interesting it's weird usage with Samuels right now I'm not going to be like chasing him
Starting point is 00:45:20 Matt in Massachusetts start three PPR John Brown Philip Lindsay Damian Williams Curtis Samuel who chasing him uh mad in massachusetts start three ppr john brown philip lindsey damian williams curtis samuel who are you sitting john brown philip lindsey damian williams curtis samuel i'm sitting curtis samuel how about you i'm sitting philip lindsey whoa you know it's interesting i i get where you're coming from they're down two defensive tackles though which gave me a little bit of pause but they were missing broncos are gonna get i mean unless the vikings just have one of those like kurt cousins
Starting point is 00:45:49 overlooked to team games they're gonna be way behind probably right they have a 15 point implied team total when you do the the vegas odd addition and try and figure that out they're 10 point road underdogs it's never a good situation for a running back. He splits carries. I like Samuel's upside against the Falcons' pass game. I don't see Lindsey's upside. So I would play the guy who has more upside. From Jason, start two out of three. Marquise Brown, DJ Chark, Robert Woods.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I mean, if Brown plays, I want him. I've been really down on Robert Woods in this show, and I just don't want to play any Rams. And I understand they're back at home, but I think it's going to be a really slow game against the Bears. Bears have been playing slow games lately because their offense hasn't been very good, and they've been giving up a lot of rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:46:42 So I just don't. And the way the Rams' offensive line is situated, they're going to be happy to get their offense off the field if they can and slow the game down. Okay. So I think I'd probably go Marquise Brown and DJ Chirk. From Derek, half PPR flex. Sonny Michel, Raheem Mostert, Will Fuller.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yeah, we don't know Fuller's health, and I think with a guy coming back from a hamstring injury it's tough to trust but these other guys are not great plays either michelle running against a really tough eagles d uh rush d is not really what where i want to go when i want to use him mostert is banged up himself and is a number two back i'd probably play michelle and have ppr i don't know where would you go yeah i would just hope for a touchdown because I don't think you're getting a big game from anyone. The best chance for a big game is Fuller because he always has that shot to catch a long one.
Starting point is 00:47:32 If we get a really great report, clean bill of health, I'll support you going with Fuller. Okay. Ben Gretsch, thank you, man. Yeah, it was a fun show. Just outstanding with the one more round of applause for you. Yeah. Just nail them.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I got some other, keep set. Hey, listen, keep sending all the intros that are right in that wheelhouse. I'm loving it. Very extended toilet flush. Wow.
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