Fantasy Football Today - 11/16: Start or Sit (NFC); Packers Should Have Gone for it (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 16, 2018What was Mike McCarthy thinking!? We start the show with our thoughts on the weak decision to punt in the fourth quarter and then our Fantasy takeaways from GB-SEA. Which QB do we like better rest of ...season? Why do we think Marquez Valdes-Scantling actually has better times ahead? ... News and notes (10:30) including a Joe Mixon update, a WR with an amazing upcoming schedule (16:00), a bet involving Dak Prescott is made (16:50), Startometer (20:24) and Beat the Waiver Wire (22:55) ... HOU-WAS (26:08), CAR-DET (32:00), DAL-ATL (38:40), TB-NYG (45:25), PHI-NO (53:30), OAK-ARI (57:13) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and me.
Yeah, it's Friday everybody. Happy Friday.
Welcome to the Fantasy Football Today podcast.
You know, I should be in a good mood. You know, it is Friday. It's weekend time.
Great game last night.
Big fantasy week ahead.
Yeah, huge fantasy week ahead. I'm so mad at Mike McCarthy. I'm just so mad.
I can't even imagine how a Packers fan would feel right now.
What a terrible and obvious mistake he made. You have to go for it, right? You're talking about the fourth and two at the end
of the game. Yeah. Of course you have to go for it. Of course you have to go for it. You
got to look at the strengths of your team. And when you're a Green Bay Packers team that
has Aaron Rodgers and the defense they have, obviously you want to trust your defense to
win the game. Oh, and your defense they have, obviously you want to trust your defense to win the game.
And your defense that is missing several key players, including two
defensive linemen who got hurt at one
point in that game, Mike Daniels and Kenny Clark.
I just...
Did you hear his explanation after the game?
Yes, the math made sense.
The numbers.
He went with the numbers. Well, the number is zero.
That's the number of playoff games they're going to play this year.
And, yeah, he's gone.
I mean, right?
Like, he's gone.
I can't imagine he's back.
He should be.
They could make a run.
You never know.
He will be Cleveland's next head coach.
Okay.
I'm just, you know, it's either Ty Montgomery or Mike McCarthy
taking the ball out of Aaron Rodgers' hands in late situations
where he could win the game.
It's disappointing.
We have got a good show for you today.
Are you going to be willing to start Peyton Barber or Doug Martin in great matchups this
week?
We'll tell you where we rank them.
We're going to try to make a bet on the air.
I've got a player who has an absolutely amazing schedule coming up that I was not aware about
until yesterday. Not aware of. News and notes. And let's start with Seattle 27, Green Bay 24.
First of all, Packers didn't have the ball much. Green Bay had it for 25 minutes and 42 seconds.
Seattle for 34 minutes and 18 seconds. A lot of injuries for the Packers. Jimmy Graham left with a thumb injury.
Just mentioned those two defensive linemen, Mike Daniels and Kenny Clark.
They left with injuries.
Bashad Breeland left with an injury, and they were already without
Kentrell Bryce, Kevin King, and Nick Perry and Randall Kopp.
Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers, guys.
He scored 25 fantasy points.
What is your outlook for Aaron Rogers rest of season?
It's going to be great.
It's Aaron Rogers and it's the Packers defense that's falling apart.
So he's going to play from behind a decent amount of the time.
Yeah, he's, I, I, he's not quite Aaron Rogers in this situation, but he's a mid-range number one quarterback,
and you're starting him pretty much every week.
When you say he's not Aaron Rodgers, you mean he's not...
Actually, I'm going to take that back.
He is still Aaron Rodgers.
The NFL's not the same.
In that you don't think he's going to have very many 30-point games?
Is that kind of what I'm hearing?
I don't think he's going to be the best quarterback in fantasy football.
I don't think he's going to be a top three quarterback in fantasy football.
Okay, that's fair to say.
Well, he is playing really well.
I mean, he has something like 19 touchdowns and one or two interceptions this year off the top of my head.
And at Minnesota and Arizona in his next two games, not exactly great matchups for quarterbacks.
No, and he's at Chicago two weeks after that Cardinals game.
Yeah, usually it doesn't matter with Aaron Rodgers.
But they, I mean, it's Devontae Adams and then who else?
I mean, Valdez Scantling was a huge disappointment.
He got a lot out of Aaron Jones in the running game.
And Jones was started in 94% of leagues and he had a big game with 100 yards and two touchdowns.
The key was that Aaron Jones did almost nothing in the running game.
Their run game was awful last night.
They had 40 yards.
After the first drive, yeah, after they recovered the fumble.
I mean, Aaron Jones had 11 carries for 40 yards.
That has bust written all over it.
Isn't that why they did nothing, though, is that they didn't lean on him?
They didn't give him much work in the run game?
He wasn't very good on a per-carry basis.
No, but that's like
the first time this year that he's been like that and his whole game is once he gets into a rhythm
he's hard to stop he's averaging five six yards per carry right but it's normally been on 11
carries per game i think it's been a little higher than that at least and they should have
they should have kept feeding them when they had the lead. They should have, yes. And even when they were nip and tuck in the fourth.
But what I was leading up to was, for the first time ever, it didn't matter because he was awesome in the passing game.
Yeah.
Right.
And he had 14 and 15 carries the two previous games.
And look, like I said, they got kind of time of possession.
They had the ball for less than 26 minutes.
That's what Theodore wants to do.
I don't see how you come out of this game discouraged by Aaron Jones, right?
Not at all.
No, encouraged that he made himself more game script proof.
Perfect.
Yeah, for sure.
Number one fantasy running back rest of the season.
What about MVS?
Are we going to drop him?
95% owned.
Not yet, but don't play him next week he's i i i think he's miscast in the slot the fact that they're putting him there and not letting him
run deeper routes is a big problem well maybe they should try esb in the slot because he
certainly doesn't know what he's doing not at all not at all awful yeah well now that scaling
should be bounced outside i don't mind if you line him up all over the place,
but keeping him strictly in the slot and having him run short routes
and then get ignored by Aaron Rodgers, he was open a bunch.
That's something that frustrates me as someone who started MBS
in an important league last night.
Valdez-Scantling was started in 65% of leagues,
but to your point then, do you think that he gets better when Randall Cobb is healthy?
That Cobb plays a slot and they move forward?
Sure, sure.
All right, cool.
If the Packers do what we're hoping they do.
Who would you rather have rest of season, Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers?
Oh, Rodgers.
Still Rodgers.
Rodgers.
But Wilson's been great.
Yes, he has been great.
22 fantasy points last night.
I don't know where these guys are going to finish.
I mean, Wilson might be borderline top 12 this week with 22 points and 6 points for passing touchdowns.
Oh, he will be.
There's six teams on a bye.
That's true, but a lot of crappy quarterbacks.
But, yeah, probably.
I'm going to guess that he finishes 13th.
Is that where you had him rank?
I'll say he finishes 10th.
I had him 14th.
I think Jamie probably hit him 10th.
I think I had him rank? I'll say he finishes 10th. I had him 14th. I think Jamie probably hit him 10th. I think I had him 8th.
You know, I'm sitting there thinking, oh, Rashad
Penny, because after that first run, where he
juked like four guys, he had a huge gain.
This guy's really good. They're
going to feature him a lot, but Chris
Carson did well, too. Mike Davis,
they're all doing well. They have arguably
the best running game in the NFL.
Your take on the
Seattle running backs the rest of the season.
Penny tweaked his ankle a little bit on that run.
I wonder if that impacted how they were planning on using him
the rest of the way.
What do you think overall with these three guys? Carson, Davis,
Penny? It's still Carson.
It's Carson. This was a bad
result for Penny, I think, with them winning
because they're going to keep their false hopes
for the playoffs alive for a few more weeks?
They could be a wild card team.
They could be.
I don't know which.
Next week is a huge game at Carolina.
With five losses every game.
I don't think they have much of a chance at all at Carolina.
They could.
They could be a surprise to Carolina.
They're basically the same team.
They want to dominate.
They want to limit what the other team does.
They have a great chance.
Both of them struggling against the pass.
Yeah, they can win.
But wait, what's that stat I tweeted about Thomas Davis?
Anyway, with Thomas Davis healthy.
It was a great stat.
It was, right?
The Panthers are allowing about a yard less per carry than they were.
Your favorite, yards per carry.
Yeah, of course. Well, it combined everything, like yards per carry than they were. Your favorite, yards per carry. Yeah, of course.
Well, it combined everything, like yards per carry and defense matters
and Thomas Davis, and it was really good.
I wish I had a Sean Lee stat that was comparable, but I don't.
So, Doug Baldwin, you know, it's funny.
Doug Baldwin, final number of seven catches for 52 yards.
It's a pretty low average on 10 targets.
He did catch a touchdown.
He should have had two.
I thought he looked great.
I was really encouraged by Baldwin.
How about you guys?
I felt really good because I said on all of our HQ program yesterday he was going to score a touchdown.
Nice.
And I've been poo-pooing on Doug Baldwin since July.
And he did look good.
And he really, you're right, he had like three opportunities for a touchdown before he actually caught a touchdown.
Can we just throw the ball to Tyler Lockett more?
Well, I mean, that would be nice too.
But I think the fact that Doug Baldwin is as involved.
Ten targets, is that a season high?
Yep.
Yeah, that tells you what you need to know about where he's at in his recovery.
And he's back.
He's back to being an important part of the fans.
So you think that he was not quite healthy up until this game and now he's 100 well and then he announced it before this game he said
himself listen anytime a player comes out before the season starts talking about how they're not
100 that's them building in their excuse before the season starts and then he came out this week
and said you know what i'm feeling great and he looked great and he actually didn't look too bad
last week either okay so doug baldwin
said that last week was the first week that he felt healthy so that's two healthy games for doug
baldwin and in those two games uh not a lot of yards he had uh 52 yesterday and 39 the game before
so it's not that encouraging but he just looked better yesterday and could have had a few
touchdowns.
Russell Wilson was really off in the first half.
Lockett didn't do anything to lower his ownership percentage.
Five catches for 71 yards, and Ed Dixon caught a touchdown.
Pick a tight end each week for the Seahawks.
He'll have one catch.
Better yet, don't.
Yeah, he'll have one catch for a touchdown.
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I feel like this is not the injurious week.
You guys feel that?
No, it's funny you say that because I got asked on the radio yesterday,
what's the big injuries we're following this week?
And I was, like, totally stumped. I was like, I don't think there's one.
Which is good. It might be Joe Mixon now.
Could be Joe Mixon, Joe Flacco. I mean, you know, just with what that means for the rest
of the Ravens. But it's not about Marvin Jones, I guess.
Yeah. So let's go through it. So RG3 was the only Baltimore quarterback to practice yesterday.
Lamar Jackson has a stomach issue.
Flacco with a hip issue.
Can you give me your thoughts on specifically, I guess, John Brown
and who you want to see under center for him?
For John Brown?
Yeah.
Joe Flacco.
Agreed.
And if Flacco doesn't play, we sit Brown?
I mean, you might want to sit Brown anyway because he hasn't been playing well with Flacco.
And now you're either going to put in RG3, who is not consistent at all,
or Lamar Jackson, who is a humongous question mark,
against a healthy Cincinnati secondary.
Their top three corners are going to play.
So it's too risky.
I wouldn't want to do it unless I just had no better choice.
I started Valdez-Scantling over Brown yesterday.
I'm going to go ahead and guess.
And I hate the results.
Yeah, sure, I hate the results, but I don't regret it
because I thought that Scantling would be more involved.
But that was a decision that I made.
I guess the big news item is that Patrick Holmes
puts ketchup on his steak
and his mac and cheese.
It's really
ridiculous.
What's so ridiculous about it? It's ridiculous.
Why? Okay, a good steak
does not require any sauce,
first of all.
And mac and cheese? Mac and cheese does not require sauce. It first of all. And mac and cheese?
Mac and cheese does not require sauce.
It is sauce.
The cheese is the sauce.
What you have to understand is that putting ketchup on steak is a thing that kids do, and he's basically still a kid.
He is kind of a kid.
A lot of people put ketchup on anything, and they just like that taste.
But I put ketchup on mac and cheese.
I've never done that.
I've used ketchup on grilled cheese.
That's probably great.
That's a great idea.
All right.
It's becoming more likely, according to Adam Schefter,
that A.J. Green is out until December.
Adam Thielen was limited in practice.
We still expect him to go.
James Conner practiced in full, but he is in the concussion protocol still.
Is there any doubt in your mind that Connor does not get clear?
Do you think Connor plays?
I think Connor plays.
Are you in the concussion protocol, Adam?
Yeah, apparently.
Keenan Allen was limited with hip and finger issues.
We're going to do a mailbag show late today,
so we'll have all the updated injuries,
but I don't think we expect Keenan Allen to sit.
Matt Bryant practiced in full.
Atlanta's kicker, so he should be back.
Chris Godwin missed practice, and Godwin has a chance of missing this game, right?
Sounds like it.
Yes.
Okay.
So would that make Adam Humphreys interesting for you?
Deep release.
I think it just puts – this is going to sound kind of silly,
but it's going to put Evans and Deshaun on the field all the time
versus most of the time because they never really used Godwin heavy in the slot
to begin with or anywhere else.
Okay.
And Joe Mixon was limited with a knee injury.
So what are your thoughts here?
The stuff that I – like Joe Mixon was limited with a knee injury doesn't scare me too much.
The tweets that I was reading from people that were in Cincinnati
scared me just a little bit more.
It sounds like he wasn't there for the open portion of media practice,
and he was in the training room after practice.
I'll be very, very interested to see what his involvement is today.
All right, and we know what happens.
Giovanni Bernard becomes a must-start, right?
Yep, pretty much.
Whenever Mixon's out.
And Marvin Jones mispracticed, so we're still assuming that Marvin Jones does not play.
Am I missing anything, fellas?
No, and you know what?
That's a lot of names.
Maybe this injury report isn't so light after all.
It's lighter than usual.
Compared to usual, it's extremely light.
It really is.
And maybe, usually we have a lot of guys that I say are on the injury report and they play anyway, and we know it.
But maybe I'm just not doing that this week.
I don't know. But one thing I am doing this week is playing on FanDuel, of course.
And Heath's going to have like 100 lineups on FanDuel.
I'm going to have like two or three, you know, to each his own, to each her own.
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$5 and you can win up to $500. About 240 people are going to win some money in this contest that's
got roughly 1200 people in it. So FanDuel.com slash FFT. I love FanDuel because I'm playing
against my friends. I get to pick guys that I like this week that I don't have on my seasonal teams.
I get to, you know, get Todd Gurley anytime I want.
I think Ezekiel Elliott is a must-own in Fanduel.
I know he's going to be expensive, but my goodness, running backs that get the work, they destroy the Falcons.
So those are the types of things you can take into Fanduel, and you can get basically superstar teams.
I mean, your teams are absolutely loaded.
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For full eligibility rules and terms and conditions, go to FanDuel.com. Just a couple stats that caught my eye. In case you
weren't aware, Matt Ryan is on pace for 5,360 passing yards. That would be the third most in
NFL history. And Drew Brees has 21 touchdowns to one interception. That's just fun stuff for you.
Tell your friends friends Awesome schedule alert
How about this schedule coming up for Amari Cooper
I'm just going to tell you where his next
Well where his remaining opponents rank
Against wide receivers
Out of 32 teams
30th, 26th, 32nd, 27th
9th, 31st
And then in week 17
Week 17, 5th
Against the Giants.
Amari Cooper set up for a really nice finish.
There you go.
And that brings us to Let's Make a Bet.
All right.
I don't know what brought this on in me,
but I noticed that all three of you have Dak Prescott 16th in your quarterback rankings.
Not anymore?
No, never.
Yes, yes. I was looking at it yesterday. I anymore? No, never. Yes, yes.
I was looking at it yesterday.
I refreshed.
Absolutely 16th.
No.
Yes.
What do you have him?
15th.
No, you changed it.
No.
Yes, liar.
All right, fine.
Well, the bet still stands.
If Dak Prescott finishes as the number 16 quarterback this week
in six point per
passing touchdown leagues, exactly
16th, I said
on Twitter, Adam will have to
blank.
So, did you enjoy the responses?
They were funny, right? You referred yourself
in third person. I did, yes.
Dave doesn't like that. Okay. Well, here's what
some people said. Eat a
Butterfinger whole.
Eat tacos with vanilla yogurt instead of Greek yogurt.
Admit Eli is not a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Drop Marlon Mack.
Retire.
Eat an entire container of Bean Boozled in one sitting while recording an episode.
Wear a Dak Prescott jersey. Wear a Dak Prescott jersey to the Giants-Cowboys game in Week 17.
Dave Richard said shave one eyebrow.
Brett Mason replied he already has only one eyebrow.
Get a gotta-go-buy tattoo.
Drink a craft beer of Heath's choosing while eating Sbarro pizza.
Poop his pants.
Watch only the Cardinals-Raiders game in the 4 p.m. slot this week.
Wear your Giants onesie for one full week of podcasting with photos sent out each day to confirm.
And finally, shower.
I have to shower if Dak Prescott.
Which one are you choosing?
I vote for the guy to go buy tattoos.
Yeah.
I vote for the – I want to see you drink a full craft beer.
I'm more likely to poop my pants than drink a craft beer.
I think the Giants onesie for a week, the Butterfinger Hole,
or the tacos with vanilla yogurt instead of Greek yogurt.
What about wearing a Dak jersey to the Cowboys-Giants game?
Who's going to buy me the ticket to the game?
They're going to be – first of all, you can go to SeatGeek and get one.
It sounds like you're going to choose one of the easier options to accomplish.
And so if you're going to do that, I think since we all have him at 16, we have set the over-under at 16.
You should pick which side.
You have to go over or under.
Oh, over.
So he's going to be better than 16?
Yeah, 100%. So if he's 16th or worse, you have to do it. So he's going to be better than 16? Yeah, 100%.
So if he's 16th or worse, you have to do it.
If he's 15th or better, you don't.
Not if he's exactly 16th.
Like, that's ridiculous.
Okay, fine.
So I think if he's better than 16, we get to choose if he's worse than 16.
No, you're so evil.
Why am I evil?
I think if he finishes exactly 16, then we get to choose.
I just want you to know that for me, eating a whole Butterfinger is really, really bad.
That candy is the devil's candy.
It is dreadful.
I will settle on the eating a whole Butterfinger thing as long as we can stipulate that you get no liquid to drink while you're eating.
Fine.
And you have to wear the onesie.
Fine.
That's fine.
And wash it down with a craft beer.
That's if he's worse than 16th?
Do they make craft non-alcoholic beers?
16 or worse.
You're saying he'll be better.
He'll be top 15 for sure.
I agree.
All right, here's the start-o-meter for the later games.
Zero to 10 on the start-o-meter.
David Johnson against Oakland. 11. 50. on the start-o-meter. David Johnson against Oakland.
11-50.
Breaking the start-o-meter. Larry Fitzgerald against
Oakland.
6.
9 in PPR, 6-9.
6.
Oakland, I'll just tell you real quick, they allow
the most passing yards per attempt
in the NFL, but they
really just don't get thrown on a lot.
They give up a lot of good games, but very
few great games to wide receivers.
Same game. Doug Martin
at Arizona.
Five.
Six. Five. Jalen Richard at
Arizona. PPR only.
Seven.
Six. Who would you start in PPR?
Martin or Richard?
Richard.
Really?
All right.
Jared Cook in Arizona.
Seven.
They're very good against tight ends.
Negative three.
A seven, Heath.
He'll be better than Jimmy Graham.
That's true.
He'll be better than Jimmy Graham.
Does he get more than 50 yards?
What?
More than 50 yards?
He will either get more than 50 yards or a touchdown.
And if he doesn't, are you going to eat a Butterfinger hole?
I wouldn't wish that on Adam. This is actually one of the only opinions Adam has ever expressed on the podcast that I agree with.
It's so bad.
What's that?
It's so bad. What's that? It's so bad.
I just don't understand.
It's like every other candy that combines chocolate and peanut butter is among the best
candy.
And then there's Butterfinger.
Keith, what's your least favorite candy?
I mean, I'm not a big candy guy, but probably Butterfinger.
Okay.
All right.
If he doesn't do it, will you have a Butterfinger?
If he doesn't score at least six fantasy points?
At least five. You said 50 yards or a at least six fantasy points? At least five.
You said 50 yards or a touchdown.
That's right.
At least five.
Yes, absolutely.
Okay.
He's got a Butterfinger bet, too.
Okay.
That's Jared Cook.
We'll find one for Jamie, and we'll find one for me.
Although, eating a Butterfinger is like a regular day for me.
Mark Ingram against Philadelphia.
Start-O-Meter.
Oh, I like him a lot.
Eight.
Yeah, seven, eight.
Seventy-eight?
Nine.
The Eagles, I hope this helps Mark Ingram.
It probably helps Kamara.
The Eagles have given up, I think, six or more catches to a running back in four straight games.
Golden Tate at New Orleans.
This should be an eight, but because it's a question mark about how much work he'll have, it's more like a four.
One.
Zero.
And finally, Sterling Shepard against Tampa Bay.
Seven.
Seven.
Six.
All right.
Let's beat the waiver wire, and then we'll get into our six NFC home games.
If you're looking for Monday night or Sunday night, we previewed those on yesterday's show.
Quarterbacks for next week, Dak Prescott Thursday against Washington. There are three Thanksgiving games. Thanksgiving quite early this year. Yeah, so Prescott's, I don't really
have a great one, but Prescott's 73% owned. Baker Mayfield, 61% owned at Cincinnati. Nick Mullins at Tampa Bay.
Yeah, I don't know.
If somebody drops Matthew Stafford, he's usually amazing on Thanksgiving.
He'll have the Bears.
So I think Mayfield's going to be a popular one. That worked out well for Stafford the last time he faced the Bears.
What was it?
He had 18 points, and he was sacked six times.
He also has 18 points, two straight Thanksgiving games,
both of them against the Vikings.
Before that, he was a monster.
Okay, this wasn't a great Beat the Waver Wire week,
but Josh Adams against the Giants could be.
Elijah McGuire.
There you go, Elijah McGuire.
I think it's a really important time.
There are only, I think, two teams on by next week, right?
And then we're done?
Yeah, but they're good teams.
Rams and Raiders.
I said good teams.
Sorry, Rams and Chiefs.
Get your handcuffs.
If you've got a wasted roster space, somebody you don't really care about,
handcuff your top running back but i think that's that that's a separate conversation because some handcuffs aren't worth having who do we handcuff then i like malcolm brown behind
todd girley i think it's going to be malcolm brown behind todd girley i know they have john kelly
there too but i would imagine that'll be him has he been active at all kelly has not been active
at all they've been saving him.
They're saving him for when Todd Gurley goes down. Week 17.
John Kelly will be
on fire. Let's speed it up.
So John Kelly... Eckler for
Melvin Gordon, although you probably have to trade for him.
We talked about that. Spencer Ware.
Jalen Samuels for James
Connor is a really good one. Chase
Edmonds. I took the words right
out of my mouth. Chase Edmonds is a very good one.
You said Spencer Ware.
That's a big one, obviously.
Get Gio now.
Yeah, Gio if he's available.
Rod Smith.
Yeah, Rod Smith.
Rod Smith for Ezekiel Elliott is a good one.
Gio's only owned at 53% at least.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
Pick up Gio right now.
I like Danny Amendola, 32% owned at Indianapolis next week.
Might not be bad.
I like him a lot.
Take a look maybe at a Baltimore wide receiver.
They're facing Oakland next week.
Marquise Goodwin is 64% owned. He's at Tampa Bay.
What was really hard was finding DSTs.
The best I came up with was the Browns at the Bengals.
That's not a bad one.
Not bad.
I had the Colts against the Dolphins, but the Colts DST is so bad,
and they've had good matchups lately, and they've done nothing with them.
So I think the Browns DST, if you're looking to get ahead.
Look, the playoffs could be on the line for you the next couple weeks,
so take this seriously.
You might want to pick up the Browns DST and stream them.
All right.
Houston's at Washington.
Let's do this.
Deshaun Watson.
Right around 12th to 14th for you guys.
How do you feel about him in this matchup, Deshaun Watson at Washington?
It's an interesting matchup because the Washington defense has obviously been very good. The way to beat them
is through the air, but
we don't really know
what the Houston
game plan is going to be. We don't know exactly
which receivers he's going to have.
He's in that category of guys that I'm probably
just starting, but I would
bench him for Eli.
Rank these three guys.
I would bench him for Eli as well, and Mario. Okay. Rank these three guys. I would bench him for Eli as well. And Mario.
Okay.
Rank these three guys.
Trubisky, Watson, Roethlisberger.
Roethlisberger, Watson, Trubisky.
Watson, Roethlisberger, Trubisky.
What they said.
They said different things.
No, you didn't.
I thought you did.
Roethlisberger, Watson, Trubisky.
I said Watson, Roethlisberger, Trubisky.
I'm sorry.
I thought you said Roethlisberger.
Those are my three quarterbacks in IDP.
So, Heath, I'm going with you.
I'm starting Watson.
Wow.
Yeah, thank you.
Lamar Miller, start or sit?
Sit.
Sit if you can.
This is a tough matchup for him.
Yeah.
These guys don't do anything in the passing game,
but the Redskins have allowed five or more catches
and 58 or more receiving yards to a running back in three straight games.
Well, they do do something in the passing game.
Alfred Blue once had an eight-catch game.
That was without Miller healthy, right?
Yeah, so I just...
How does Alfred Blue
get more carries, or
basically the same amount of carries as...
Oh, he did have more than Miller last week.
He had more touches than Miller in their last game,
15-14. He had more carries and Miller in their last game, 15-14.
He had more carries and more touches.
I don't know how that happens.
All right, so...
They don't like Lamar Miller.
Who's your favorite running back in this game?
Adrian Peterson.
John Reagan.
None.
Right.
Let's throw a blanket statement there.
I've got Miller two spots ahead of AP.
Peterson's going to have a miserable day
Yeah
They're all sits, right?
I'm not sitting Adrian Peterson
I'm not sure he's going to have a miserable day
It may not be an efficient day
It may not be fun rushing for 2.9 yards per carry
But I think there's a good chance that Washington wins this game
And he gets a bunch of carries
And maybe falls in the end zone
He had 19 carries against Tampa Bay last week and he didn't even get 70 yards and offensive lines it's really a huge
problem and you got jj wadja damien clowning yeah you gotta hope he falls into the end zone coming
off a bye week yeah and it's it's basically the same thing for lamar miller they're really two
peas in a pod maybe a piece is better because he should get more carries. It's bad for both.
The Texans allow 3.5 yards per carry to running backs.
Five receiving touchdowns to running backs that don't.
Maybe Peterson, maybe, maybe, I don't know.
All right, passing game stuff.
So obviously Hopkins is a start.
Are there any other wide receivers that you feel comfortable starting in this game?
No.
This is a low-scoring game.
Probably. Yeah, I'm surprised you're starting is a low-scoring game. Probably.
Yeah, I'm surprised you're starting
Wadslow-Rothsburg. Me?
Yeah. I don't
buy the Redskins'
pass defense. I think it's actually
potentially bad. They just haven't really
been tested. They scheme very well.
Their pass rush is good. Josh Norman, I think,
has been playing well recently.
They do have a big weakness on the other side of the field.
They've been moving Josh Norman around a little bit, too.
So I think there's going to be opportunity.
Greg Stroman has been the other corner.
And I wonder if Houston will go after him a little bit with probably Demarius Thomas.
Yeah, look, I'll have to reevaluate it, I guess.
I don't think it is.
Rodgers scored 23 points.
Breeze scored 32.
Newton scored 27.
Prescott, 21.
And then Eli Manning and Fitzpatrick threw for 316 and 406 yards against the Redskins.
Matt Ryan lit them up, 36 fantasy points.
I know the problem with Watson, he just doesn't throw the ball very much.
And his offensive line's not good.
No, his offensive line's been playing better.
Better, yes, but not good against this front.
It's going to be tough.
Okay.
So, Demarius Thomas is a sit?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, try to sit.
Josh Doxson or Maurice Harris if you're desperate?
Doxson.
Doxson, non-PPR, Harris, PPR.
Yeah, I'd still go Harris.
All right.
Jordan Reed?
Nope.
Try not to.
PPR is a little safer.
He's my top 12.
Jared Cook or Jordan Reed?
Cook.
Reed.
Reed.
Am I missing anything from this game?
Obviously, the Texans, the SDs, a must start.
How about the Redskins?
I'm starting on both.
We like Texans better? I'm starting on both. We like
Texans better? Yes.
Okay, I think we're good
there. We can compare players from this
game to others in a little bit.
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Carolina is at Detroit.
Would you like to know a fun thing about what the Lions did yesterday?
Yeah. Oh, playing in the snow?
Yeah, their next four games are indoors.
Yeah.
So what did they decide to do? They practiced outside in the snow.
Yeah, he does bed hire.
I'm fine.
Hey, listen, Matt Patricia wore shorts during practice.
Oh, he did?
His dimples were warm. But this is. Matt Patricia wore shorts during practice. Oh, he did? Yeah.
His dimples were warm.
But this is what he tried to do right from the jump, like instill toughness in this team by having these really tough practices that nobody liked.
It's what every coach does.
No, it's not.
Not every coach.
It's the good ones that actually know how to read their team and read their players.
Yeah, this does not look like a good marriage here.
No.
So Cam Newton is a top three
quarterback troy allows the second most yards per attempt in the nfl only oakland allows more
whatever you're starting starting cam he's very good start mcafree let's talk about the passing
game and funchess and more do you have any interest in in these guys they're both flexes
funchess is a flex because he's playing against detroitess is a flex because he's playing against Detroit.
Moore is a flex because he's playing against Detroit.
But at least Moore can line up in the slot a little bit.
That's where receivers have had great success against this Lions D.
And I kind of think that this matchup is good for Moore.
Part of me wants to put Moore ahead of Funchess because he can line up everywhere
and because he's really good at making plays after the catch,
and the Lions just stink at playing football.
Yeah, both of these guys are flexes.
They're not top 25 options, but I do like DJ Moore.
Moore should be better, but he's been losing playing time to Samuel,
which has been frustrating.
Doesn't sound like Torrey Smith's going to play.
And then for Funches, Darius Slay's going to return,
so that's going to be a little bit tougher.
Hey, sorry for the delay on this one, but he's on today, folks.
He's on.
His pun game is working.
Would you start DJ Moore or Devin Funchess over Demarius Thomas?
Yes.
Yes.
Both of them?
Yes.
Yes.
Let's just look at the last five games for the Lions.
They have allowed 100 yards or a touchdown or both to nine wide receivers in their last five games.
Devontae Adams, MVS, Amendola, Stills, David Moore, Tyler Lockett, Adam Thielen, Alan Robinson, and Anthony Miller.
You know what this reminds me of?
What?
When Carolina played Tampa Bay.
What happened? Very little? When Carolina played Tampa Bay.
What happened?
Very little?
Another receiver scored.
I know.
I'm sorry.
Samuel scored on a reverse.
Well, Greg Olson maybe.
They just don't follow the script.
It's true.
It's true.
It's like, Cam, I don't even know if matchups matter. If he wants to score a rushing touchdown, he's going to be great.
It just depends.
Greg Olson's top three in both formats.
He's third in both formats.
I know he can be a little frustrating, but what are you going to do?
Sit Greg Olson?
No.
Matthew Stafford or Dak Prescott?
Dak.
Dak.
I'll go with Stafford.
It's a good matchup for Stafford.
It's a good matchup for Stafford. It's a good matchup for Stafford.
Okay, you say so.
It is.
Carolina's pass defense has been pretty terrible.
So has Stafford.
Stafford just hasn't had that breakthrough game really this season.
He's down two receivers.
And he's down two receivers.
He's been 20 or less in five straight.
His offensive line is brutal.
This is a good matchup for him.
Carolina is on the road second week in a row,
but I just don't have faith in him,
and you don't have to go with him.
You can go to the waiver wire and pick up Mariota or Eli or Dak
and go with them.
I would start him over Fitzpatrick.
Yeah, I'm not actively trying to start Stafford.
I'm just not actively
sitting him either. Is he in your top 12?
No, he's 15. But Dak and Mariota
aren't in my top 12.
But Eli is. There's a lot of good quarterbacks.
You'd start Eli over Stafford, right?
Yes. Start Dak over him.
Start Mariota over him too.
I know Stafford's matchup isn't quite as good as Dak's,
but Stafford's been better this year than Dak has.
Not recently.
Yeah, not recently. Certainly not with Amari Cooper.
The addition of Amari Cooper and the absence of Marvin Jones tip the scales a little bit, right?
Of course.
They do a little bit, yes.
All right, so the running backs.
I know nobody's going to start LeGarrette Blount.
He's basically been phased out.
He's still a pest at the goal line, perhaps.
And Riddick is only relevant in PPR.
But what about carry on Johnson?
So here's the stat.
Yards per carry without Thomas Davis, running backs average 4.94 yards per carry against the Panthers without Davis.
With him, they average 3.97 yards per carry.
Start or sit carry on Johnson?
Start.
Must start.
Yeah, there's not a lot of debate about this one.
All right.
So would you start carry on Johnson or Tevin Coleman?
Johnson.
I believe I have carry on ranked higher.
I think I do too.
Would you start carry on Johnson or same game kenny galladay
i'll go carry on i like the catches that he's had recently i think they're going to need him
to catch some checkdowns yeah i think the golden tate injury we knew it was going to help theo
riddick but i think it's actually or golden tate trade has actually helped carry on too because
theo riddick's lining up more in the slot.
They just don't have anything at receiver outside of Galladay if Marvin Jones doesn't play.
And they like Michael Roberts at tight end.
He's banged up.
I think Luke Wilson was inactive last week.
So they're going to lean on Levine Toilolo.
They're going to lean on Brandon Powell or TJ Jones.
This is part of the case against Stafford, but it's for these running backs
because I think that they can at least pile up some receptions.
Okay.
Tololo scoring.
He's not really going to score, but it's kind of just –
the Panthers are this year's giants.
They are just so, so bad against tight ends.
It's ridiculous.
And, you know, I said Kerryon Johnson or Kenny Galladay,
and you said Johnson, but Johnson or Kenny Galladay, and you said
Johnson, but we really like
Galladay. He's an absolute
must-start receiver. Yep. So
start him. This game is, I think
this game is done. Carolina DST
is 5th for Dave
and Jamie and 12th for Heath, and do not
start the Detroit DST.
Want to give a quick thought on why
you guys like the Panthers DST,
specifically, Damian.
Sacks and turnovers. Yeah, Stafford's been
sacked 16 times. His offensive line's a mess.
16 times in the last two games.
If he was sacked 16 times over the course
of the season, I'd say, whoa,
that's not good for the Panthers DST.
But in the last two games.
But it's two games. Yeah.
Alright, Dallas is at Atlanta
Stat of the game
I put stat of the game number one
It doesn't look like I have number two
So I'm just going to go with stat of the game
There have been
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah
Alright, look
I know everybody's starting Zeke
But why I want to play him in DFS
On FanDuel.com slash FFT
There have been five running backs
With 15 or more carries against the Falcons
Five running backs with 15 or more carries Ze the Falcons. Five running backs with 15 or more carries.
Zika's had 15 or more in every game.
All five of those running backs scored 18 or more fantasy points in non-PPR
and 20 or more fantasy points in PPR.
In non-PPR, four of the five finished as top five running backs.
In PPR, three of them finished first or third, first, first, or third.
It's just he's going to destroy
them. Fun game though. The Falcons have the 10th best scoring offense, 27 points per game, but at
home they averaged 33.6 points per game. The Cowboys have the third best scoring defense in
the NFL. How do you guys see this one playing out? High scoring, lots of fun, start players from this game.
You don't think the Cowboys can limit the Falcons' offense?
Nope.
I don't think so.
Yeah, me either.
Nope.
And you've seen this offense has changed with Amari Cooper coming to town.
They're finding ways to get Zeke the ball through the air.
They're leaning on Cooper.
He's getting, I think he's averaging nine targets a game since he's been there.
Dak's running more.
He's playing better.
Everything's just better now that they've found a semblance of a passing game.
So Zeke is a must-start, and Cooper, is he a must-start as well?
Yes.
Yeah, you're starting him.
Cooper or Galladay?
Galladay.
I believe I have Cooper or Ringtire.
Galladay, but it's close.
Okay, they're both high at number two wide receivers, let's say.
So Dak is 16th for everybody, 15th for Jamie.
Are there sleepers in this game, like Michael Gallup?
Six teams on by. Is there anyone on Dallas that we could reach for and hope for in this game? Like Michael Gallup, you know, six teams on by.
Is there anyone on Dallas that we could reach for and hope for a big game?
I don't have a sleeper on Dallas.
If you want me to wait on sleepers for Atlanta, I'd be happy to.
Who, Sanu?
Sanu.
If he plays.
You know, he's been limited in practice.
He's not at 100%.
And I like Ridley, too.
I like Hooper better than Sanu.
He's taking over that middle of the field role.
I think you could call Jeff Swaim a sleeper for Dallas.
Is he going to play?
I don't know.
He does.
He did play last week.
I've not seen anything about him, but I don't get any Jeff Swaim alerts.
And his injury updates go under the radar sometimes.
I didn't know he was going to play last week.
Right.
Yeah.
All right.
So it is what it is.
Dak, I believe, will be better than 16th,
and I will not have to eat that crappy candy.
Matt Ryan is fourth for everybody, unless that changed.
But I think he's fourth for everybody.
You should make a second Matt Ryan bet.
Is he going to be better or worse than fourth?
Yeah, that's a tough one.
That's a tough one for me.
I think he's going to be worse.
I think Breeze going to be worse.
I think Breeze, Mahomes.
No, I think he's going to be fourth on the dot,
except I would put Goff ahead of him and not Cam.
Well, you don't like Cam Newton.
You never have.
Yeah, I hate Cam Newton.
Well, whatever.
Tevin Coleman.
Start or sit Tevin Coleman?
Start. I like him.
I like him, and that's part of the reason why I'm not a Hooper fan this week.
Hooper's best games tend to come when the Falcons' run game can't get going.
And I think you'll see the Falcons' run game do very well.
So how come you only have him like 17th?
Because I like a lot of other running backs better.
There are 16 running backs that I like better, so I put him right after those guys.
To say a guy's going to have a big game,
it usually translates to higher than 17th when six teams are on by, you know?
I think Coleman will be fine.
I think Hooper will be fine.
I think Ryan's going to do whatever he wants to.
Ido Smith?
Meh, he'll play some football.
He's a flex.
Hope he scores.
No one flex.
Rank the flexes.
Calvin Ridley, Ido Smith, Muhammad Sanu.
Ridley, Sanu, Ito.
Yeah, but I don't like Ridley this week.
Ridley, Ito, Smith.
Why don't you like Ridley?
He's touchdown dependent, and the Cowboys only allowed six touchdowns to receivers on season.
They allow the third fewest fantasy points to wide receivers.
You look at who they faced.
Beckham and Jeffrey were very disappointing.
Dallas hasn't faced that many good receivers.
Some that they faced that did well, Tyler Lockett, Golden Tate, Hopkins, Kiki Cutie,
Kenny Galladay had 74 yards.
Yep, and they've struggled with tight ends recently.
Three touchdowns and tight ends last week.
They're also on the road second straight week after playing on Sunday night.
I think they'll be overmatched defensively.
So I'll take the chance on Ridley.
And then Hooper, you know,
Jamie has him fourth. Heath has him seventh
in non-PPR, fourth in PPR. Dave, you
are sitting Hooper. You have him
right just outside the top 12.
Yeah. Can't pull
the trigger on him this week. Very worried about him.
Yeah, he's been awesome. He's been up and down.
When he's been up, he's been very up. And. He's been awesome. He's been up and down. When he's been up,
he's been very up.
And when he's been down, he's been seven PPR points.
So that's not good.
For a tight end, it's good.
Yeah, but I don't want to start a guy
hoping that he gets me seven
PPR points. Obviously, you want that upside.
That is probably the floor.
He has been up and down.
So good tight ends against Dallas.
Greg Olson had 33 yards.
Evan Ingram, 67 yards and a touchdown.
Ryan Griffin happened to have a nice game, 6 for 65.
Jordan Reed had a bad game.
You started this by prefacing good tight ends against Dallas.
Good tight ends against Dallas or tight ends who did well.
Tight ends who breathe.
Really what happened.
John U. Smith caught a touchdown.
Zach Ertz had a massive game.
I know, they're not all good tight ends, but I had to include the ones who actually produced.
Like Ryan Griffin and Jonu Smith.
If he doesn't, will you eat a bad candy bar?
No.
Let's do some Sanu comparisons.
Why not?
We're all making bets here this week.
Let's do it.
Why won't you join in the fun?
I will, when I want to. All right. I don't want to make an over week. Let's do it. Why won't you join in the fun? I will when I want to.
All right.
Jamie's anti-fun.
I said Sanu.
Let's do some Ridley comparisons.
Would you do Ridley or Lamar Miller?
Ridley.
Ridley by default.
Yes.
Ridley or Theo Riddick, PPR?
Riddick.
Riddick.
Riddick has that safe floor of 11-12. We skipped over Theo Riddick. Ridley. Riddick has that safe floor of 11-12.
We skipped over Theo Riddick, and I wanted to make a point.
DFS this week is very, very difficult.
The pricing makes the high-priced guys far more appealing than the cheaper guys.
And I think Riddick is a really good floor flex so that you can play more studs.
Tampa Bay is at the Giants.
I have seven stats of the game for Tampa Bay at the Giants.
I can't believe that you focused on a Giants game.
A lot of interesting stats here.
All right, stat of the game number one,
the Giants have allowed six receiving touchdowns to wide receivers,
five to running backs.
Stat of the game number two,
the Giants are 18th in passing yards per game allowed, but third best in touchdowns to wide receivers. Five to running backs. Stat of the game number two. The Giants are 18th in passing yards per game allowed,
but third best in touchdowns allowed,
even though they have the second fewest stacks in the NFL.
They give up yards.
They don't give up touchdowns in the air.
Stat of the game number three.
The Giants have allowed a touchdown to a running back in every single game this season.
Giants have allowed a touchdown to a running back in every game this season.
Stat of the game number four.
Eli Manning has not scored more than 16 fantasy points in any home game,
but the Bucs allow the most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Stat of the game number five.
There have been six wide receivers that have had six to nine targets against Tampa Bay.
Four of those six caught at least one touchdown.
Did you make a perverted joke there and I talked over it?
I don't think it's perverted.
What do you mean?
I said nice.
It's a good stat.
Stat of the game number six.
Tampa Bay has faced six good tight ends, not including Jordan Reed,
and all six of them have scored 15 or more fantasy points in PPR.
Question.
Yes, they're all good.
Ryan Griffin or Johnnie Smith.
All six had 76 yards or a touchdown.
And stat of the game number seven.
Saquon Barkley had a season-high 20 carries last week coming out of their bye.
And his worst game of the year.
I'll tell you why that's relevant in a little bit.
Which quarterback do you like better, Fitzpatrick or Eli?
Eli.
Eli.
Starter said Fitzpatrick.
You can start him.
Start him if you must.
Avoid him if you can.
All right. Fitz or Dak? must. Avoid him if you can. All right.
Fitz or Dak?
I've got Dak higher.
Fitz.
Dak.
All right.
We really don't like Fitzpatrick.
If I was 1,000% sure that he wouldn't get benched for turnovers, I would start him.
He threw 400 yards.
I think he'd be my DFS quarterback all the way.
I've eliminated almost all of my Ryan Fitzpatrick shares.
I made a trade yesterday to get the last one off of my team.
Okay.
All right.
What did you –
It's a 10-team league.
My team is very good.
So I traded OJ Howard and Marlon Mack to get Andrew Luck to the owner who had Patrick Mahomes.
Okay.
So –
Patrick was my only quarterback.
How about Peyton Barber, guys?
So he's had, in my opinion, a pretty tough schedule.
He's had three good matchups and played pretty well in two of them.
And now the Giants have just been dreadful since Snacks Harrison was traded.
Two games they've given up well over 100 yards and a touchdown.
Any interest in Peyton Barber?
I know you don't like Lamar Miller and Adrian Peterson.
Would you go with Barber over them?
I would not.
But he's a flex for me.
He's a flex.
He's had one game in his since September with more than 13 carries.
He doesn't catch the ball.
He typically does not have a good rushing average.
He typically does not break long
runs. Let me tell you, Dave,
the last two running backs
that have had exactly 11 carries
against the Giants. Corey Clement
had 11 for 43 and a touchdown,
plus 3 for 26 receiving,
and Tevin Coleman had 11 for 50
and a touchdown, and 2 for 32 receiving.
Those guys are kind of fast,
though.
Barber isn't fast.
He's powerful.
But he's not.
He doesn't have a good year. He's not going to do a lot in terms of yards or receptions, but he scores this week.
Well, if he does that, then you should start him.
Well, the Giants have a lot of touchdowns.
They're running back in every game this season.
That was that.
Could go to Jacquez Rogers.
That was that of the game number 15.
Yeah, Jacquez Rogers
had eight catches
for 102 yards last week.
Do you look at him in PPR?
He's had four catches,
at least four catches,
two of his last three,
and this impacts Barber, too.
Ronald Jones has been practicing,
so he could return,
and if he does return,
that's going to hurt Jacquez Rogers
and potentially Peyton Barber
a little bit.
I knew there was
big injury news somewhere.
What do you think about the Tampa Bay wide receivers this week?
I think he's still starting Evans,
but the other two guys are probably flexes at best.
It's really strange.
The other two guys being Deshaun Jackson and Adam Humphreys
because Godwin might not play.
Yeah, I mean, if Godwin plays, I think he's the number three receiver.
He's been very good with Fitzpatrick.
He has been.
Jamie pointed that out on Tuesday.
PPR fantasy points for Godwin in five games that Fitzpatrick started and finished.
13, 16, 16, 6, and 17.
He's had a touchdown or 100 yards in four of those five games.
Giants have been good against wide receivers.
I just don't really buy it.
I think they've just been lucky with touchdowns.
I think they suck.
But they have the second few with sacks in the NFL, you know.
O.J. Howard is a must-start, as always.
I know he's coming off a bad game.
And the Giants have allowed only one touchdown to a tight end,
but I just don't see how you're sitting him.
In fact, three of the last four tight ends, or good tight ends, to face the Giants,
Ertz, Hooper, Reed, and Kittle, had seven or more catches.
Eli Manning.
Heath, you're the highest on him.
You got him ninth.
I love Eli Manning.
Dave, 15th.
Future Hall of Fame quarterback, Eli Manning.
21 fantasy points or more in three of his last five games.
Tampa Bay gives up at least 24 fantasy points to all quarterbacks not named Nick Foles or Alex Smith.
He's going to score somewhere in that 21 to 24 point range.
He may even go a little bit higher.
Tampa Bay is awful.
Start Barkley, start Beckham.
And then Shepard, you know, he had three targets last week.
And the reason I gave that stat about Barkley getting a season-high 20 carries last week
is that the Giants seem to have come out of their bye wanting to run the football.
And that's bad for Shepard.
He did catch a touchdown, and that's potentially bad for Evan Ingram, who's usually not relevant,
but the Bucs give up the second-most points to tight ends.
So what's your take on Shepard and Ingram?
I think it has to depend on if you think that the Giants are going to stop Tampa Bay. tight ends. So what's your take on Shepard and Ingram?
I think it has to depend on if you think that the Giants are
going to stop Tampa Bay.
Because there is a
situation where they
pick Fitzpatrick off a couple times and
build a lead, and then it's bad for Shepard and Ingram.
But as long as you think Tampa Bay is going to score, I think Shepard
and Ingram will both be fine.
I thought that was going to happen last week against
Washington, and it didn't happen.
San Francisco?
No.
Tampa Bay played Washington.
Oh, I thought you meant the Giants.
Sure.
I don't think the Giants' defense is as good as Washington's.
No, but I don't think they're as bad as Adam makes about to be.
They're not that bad.
They're not that bad.
Against the pass, they're not that bad.
But they do not get any pass rush, it's hard it's hard to survive that way
like i said 18th most yards and like the fifth fewest touchdowns allowed you know it's hard to
survive that way even if they don't have a great pass rush they're gonna drop guys back and dare
fitzpatrick to complete passes which he doesn't always do no i do think a lot of his turnovers
have come under pressure though so if he's not pressure, he's got guys that can get open.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, let's focus on Shepard and Ingram.
Would you start Shepard over – I hope I didn't ask this one already, but Demarius Thomas?
I would start Shepard over Thomas.
For sure.
I really like the matchup for Shepard in the slot.
Shepard or Larry Fitzgerald?
Fitz.
I'll go Shepard.
Peyton Barber or Shepard?
Shepard.
Both formats?
Sure.
Yep.
Who are some tight ends you would start Evan Ingram over other than Jimmy Graham?
Jared Cook, Jordan Reed, Kyle Rudolph.
I'll agree with Kyle Rudolph.
Ricky Seals-Jones.
Jeff Hireman.
I like Ingram this week.
I think he's going to play well because the Tampa Bay Bucs stink.
They sure do.
No, I'll start.
Your question was who would I start over Ingram or who would I start Ingram over?
Ingram over.
Yeah, I like Seals-Jones and Hireman better.
Oh, you do?
I agree with most of the names Jamie said.
All right.
Giants DST is 11th for Dave and Jamie, 13th for Heath.
If you're desperate, you know, they suck.
Philadelphia's at New Orleans.
It's that of the game.
The Eagles have allowed six or more catches to a running back
in four straight games.
I already told you that earlier in the show.
I'll make this game simple.
Wentz is top six.
Breeze is even higher than that.
Michael Thomas must start. Al Michael Thomas, must start.
Alvin Kamara, must start.
Is Alshon Jeffrey a must start?
I think so.
I think you could be in a position where you don't start him, but I do think he is a fine start.
Yep.
Number two receiver for sure.
I think this is your bonanza.
I know you already picked it.
Yeah, I already did it.
It's obvious, but this is going to be, yeah, lots of it.
Well, I guess it comes down to Mark Ingram,
who is always going to be a starter-sit decision.
And then it's going to be Adams.
Are we starting any Eagles running backs?
No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about Traquan Smith?
Definitely worth taking a shot on him.
He's a great daily play, and I think he scores this week.
Philadelphia's secondary is, I believe, starting three backups at corner.
Is Sidney Jones going to play?
I think Sidney Jones will play.
He was their slot corner to begin the year.
That's as close to a starter as they're going to have.
Otherwise, it's undrafted rookie,
Avante Maddox, and then I don't know.
Rasul Douglas would be the other one.
This is a good week to go with Michael Thomas
in Daily Fantasy.
Why are you confident in Mark Ingram?
Huh? Why are you confident in
Ingram?
High-scoring game. I think he's going to be involved.
I know that happened against the Rams and he wasn't involved,
but I mean, I don't
think they're going to go away from him after what he started to show them
last week. Plus, he's so good in the screen game.
He is, by the way. He's like
12 catches in 5 games, I think.
He has 11 catches in five games.
Is that right?
Something like that.
He'll do well there, and I think he'll get a lot of carries too.
I hope he does well.
They need to get him involved in the passing game.
This is a really good opportunity,
but it's a great run defense that I think is getting Timmy Jernigan back.
I guess I'm just always a little nervous about him,
and you guys never are.
That's fine.
We will start Mark Ingram over Tevin Coleman over – how about this?
If Gio Bernard – if Mixon's out, would you start Gio or Ingram?
Ingram.
Ingram.
I'll probably have Gio higher.
I'll go Gio in PPR, Ingram and non-PPR.
Traquan Smith
and some of the... How about Traquan Smith
or Chris Godwin if he plays?
Godwin.
Godwin.
I do like Traquan
more in non-PPR than PPR.
I'll take Traquan regardless.
Traquan Smith or Alan Robinson?
I'll take Traquan. Robinson. Pretty confident in Traquan regardless. Traquan Smith or Allen Robinson? I'll take Traquan.
Robinson.
Pretty confident in Traquan Smith.
Did not have a target last week.
Yep, but he's played two home games.
He's got three touchdowns in those two home games,
which is what I thought he would be successful along.
But even in that second home game, he had what, like 13 yards and a touchdown?
Something.
23 yards and a touchdown.
He scored.
He did score.
And this is a good matchup.
The Eagles allow the six most fantasy points to wide receivers.
Zach Ertz actually has on paper a tough matchup.
We'll see how he does.
He's a must start.
He's the best.
Ben Watson or Evan Ingram, guys?
Ingram.
Ingram.
Yeah, I think I have Ingram one spot higher.
All right.
Yeah, Watson, you need him to score because the Eagles allow the second fewest fantasy points to tight ends.
I would start Watson over Rudolph and Jimmy Graham.
And Derek Cook.
Jimmy Graham for sure.
Oakland at Arizona, stat of the game.
The bowler tie is the official state neckwear of Arizona.
Heath, I feel like you may have worn a bowler tie.
You're the only one.
Maybe Dave. I don't think I've have worn a bowler tie You're the only one Maybe Dave
I don't think I've ever worn a bowler tie
But why don't the Arizona Cardinals trade for Phillip Rivers?
He is the official quarterback of the bowler tie
I don't know
It's a good idea
I've never worn a bowler tie
I'm either
I would like to though
Maybe I'll do that
I'll dress up as Grandpa Simpson for Halloween next year.
Great holiday.
Are you starting any Raiders?
We talked about the running backs.
Rashard's better in PPR, Martin in non-PPR,
and they're both low-end, number two, high-end flex options in those formats.
And I'm starting Jared Cook.
I agree with everything he said about the last one.
I'm not sure if I asked this.
Sorry.
There's a little news on Jimmy Graham.
What is it?
That says it could be a very serious injury.
Yeah, it is.
It's not going to be good.
They didn't say what it was, but it could be very serious.
It's a thumb.
Well, I know it's a thumb.
It must be a ligament.
It fell off.
That's dumb.
Yeah.
Thumbs down.
The thumb war.
And he lost.
Would you rather start Doug Martin or
Peyton Barber?
Martin.
Martin. I think I have Martin higher.
Any Oakland
passing game? Give Martin credit.
He's played well. Yeah, he has.
He just doesn't get a lot of work.
I have Barber higher. Well, that's the thing about
these two teams.
They see a lot of work. I have Barbara higher. Well, that's the thing about these two teams. They see a lot of rush attempts.
The Cardinals see the most rush attempts in the NFL.
Like, that doesn't make sense the way I said it.
Teams run on the Cardinals.
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
That makes sense because the Cardinals are always behind.
This is not a game where we expect them to be behind.
It's true.
I don't know who's going to. I mean, I assume the Cardinals are always behind. This is not a game where we expect them to be behind. It's true. I don't know who's going to.
I mean, I assume the Cardinals are going to win.
You guys have their DST as like a top two DST.
Yeah, I'm thinking they win.
I think they control the clock.
I think the Raiders make a lot of really dumb choices.
That's a safe bet.
And Doug Martin's not going to get enough work.
I mean, Martin's had at least 15 touches in two of three games since Lynch went down.
That's basically Aaron Jones' workload.
And John Gruden is just going to sit over there
and rule over Larry Fitzgerald.
He's getting work.
Man, I need an old receiver like that guy.
David Johnson is going to have a huge game,
start him,
and then I think we said it earlier,
Fitzgerald's a good start.
Kirk is a flex.
He's a flex, yep.
Yeah, I'm stuck flexing him.
So we've talked about Trey Kwan Smith.
We've talked about, like, Chris Godwin.
How does Christian Kirk compare to them?
I think he's a low-end flex.
I think I have him ranked ahead of both of them.
I do.
Okay.
Yeah, Dave, I mean, low-end flex, but how does he compare
to Trey Gwan-Smith?
No, I'd rather start the other guys. I would start Smith
over him for sure.
Christian Kirk or
Doug Martin or Peyton Barber?
The running backs.
PPR, Kirk
gets the nod.
Cool. Non-PPR, Barber, Martin Kirk.
And Ricky Seals-Jones is not high for Heath,
but he's top 12 Ricky Seals-Jones for Dave and Jamie.
Yeah, I like the involvement last week.
That's nice.
Playing the Raiders is nice.
They're not good against covering tight ends.
And I would take a chance on him.
There's a lot of tight ends that we're going to have to take a chance on.
And I'll just take a chance on him because he's playing Oakland.
Does anybody know off the top of their head
the pricing or like relative to other DSTs of the Cardinals DST on FanDuel?
They are $4,000 on FanDuel.
That is right in the, towards the upper echelon.
The Texans are $4,700. The Chargers are upper echelon. The Texans are 4,700.
The Chargers are 46.
The Ravens are 42.
And then there's a lot, several teams, three teams at 4,000.
Carolina, the Colts, and the Cardinals.
So they're way down there.
They're not even, like, top three.
They're fourth.
They're fourth.
Well, tied for fourth with three other teams.
Okay.
Yeah, they're going to be popular.
They're going to be popular for sure.
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Dave, Heath, Jamie, thank you guys.
Much appreciated.
Okay, bye.
I'm Adam Azer.
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