Fantasy Football Today - 11/19 Fantasy Football Podcast: Week 11 Recap - Hunt Owners are Mad

Episode Date: November 20, 2017

Beginning the show with a look at the big news from around the NFL. How does Chris Thompson's injury affect Washington (2:06)? Welcome back, Tyrod Taylor (3:34)! And what happens to the Dolphins WRs i...f Jay Cutler is out (7:38)? ... Buy or Sell for Kareem Hunt (10:20), Saints RBs (12:30), Doug Martin (14:00), Keenan Allen (16:25) and many more ... Heath's winners (20:30) including Alex Collins and losers (22:33) including James White. We also play some "Hey, Real Quick" (25:00) before looking at the Week 11 leaderboard (33:15) and recapping every game (39:50) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. And welcome to the Sunday Recap, talking Week 11 here at Fantasy Football Today.
Starting point is 00:00:23 It's an Adam and Heath show today. And we want to ask you a question, everybody. Are you hiring? If you are, you've got to use ZipRecruiter.com. You can post your job to 100-plus job sites, including social media networks like Facebook and Twitter, all with a single click. So try it for free.
Starting point is 00:00:40 ZipRecruiter.com slash FFT. ZipRecruiter.com slash FFT. ZipRecruiter.com slash FFT. Heath, wow, everybody's freaking out about Kareem Hunt. With, for good reason. Decent reason. Decent reason. Yeah, and I told people to buy low on him coming into this week and last week's buy week, and I still don't necessarily disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:01:02 But, like, they were, Andy Reid was really stupid today. Oh, Reid was really stupid today. Oh, he was so stupid today. Completely and totally cost his team a very easy victory against a terrible football team. And he should be embarrassed. I think Kareem Hunt is like 10th right now as of Sunday night
Starting point is 00:01:20 entering the Sunday night game in rushing yards. He just started scoring touchdowns. But you know what? We'll get to him in a little bit. We've got a lot of news to talk about with Chris Thompson out for the season, most likely. We don't know officially, but probably out for the season.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Same thing with Deontay Foreman. Kelvin Benjamin got hurt today. We had a quarterback change that followed a stupid quarterback change. We've got Matt Moore now in Miami. So we'll talk about that. We'll do some buy or sell from our listeners. Heath made a huge mistake on Twitter, and this is after he called me out for a Twitter mistake. I can't wait to call him out for his Twitter mistake.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I made a Twitter mistake? Oh, huge Twitter mistake. Like, just of epic proportions. That's strange, because I'm a great tweeter. You know nothing, Heath Cummings. Now here's the big news. Chris Thompson carted off with a broken leg. What do you think the impact is on the Redskins' offense?
Starting point is 00:02:15 Samaj AP, Ryan, huge, huge, huge beneficiary. Well, he's 79% owned. That's pretty much it. It may be a little better for Jamison Crowder It's good for the tight ends Is it worse for Kirk Cousins? Is it worse for Cousins? I don't really think so
Starting point is 00:02:31 He's not leaning heavily on anyone I looked at Cousins' Six big games with 23 or more Fantasy points including today's In two of those games Thompson Had 100 yards In three of them he scored a touchdown Three of those games, Thompson had 100 yards. In three of them, he scored a touchdown. Three of them, he had 26 or fewer yards,
Starting point is 00:02:48 but touchdowns in two of those three bad games. But I don't think that Cousins can't get numbers without him. No, I don't. No. Right. I have no concern about Kirk Cousins without Chris Thompson. It's mostly just more opportunity for other people. Who are you going to like better rest of the season?
Starting point is 00:03:09 Samaje Pirine or Kenyon Drake? Pirine. Kareem Hunt? Hunt. Adrian Peterson? Pirine. Alright, Pirine. If he's available, you get him.
Starting point is 00:03:23 He's 79% owned. He finally had a good game. He did pretty bad this year, but 23 carries. And he always gets work when Rob Kelly's out. Right. Nate Peterman, how about that experiment? You know, there have been a lot of Nate Peterman jokes. I'm just going to stay away from them. I think it's me, and I feel bad for the guy.
Starting point is 00:03:42 What do you think? I am very, very conflicted. Because I'm usually of the belief that we act like we know better than coaches. And we are stupid for thinking that. And they are football coaches, and we are not. But I'm also, like, everyone knew that it was stupid to bench Tyrod Taylor. And I really feel like I just hope the Bills miss the playoffs by one game. And McDermott just wears this one for the rest of his career.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It could have been the front office. You never know. It could have been. It was ridiculously stupid. And he should be apologizing to Nate Peterman. Yeah, I mean Peterman, definitely not. Five interceptions in the first half and then Tyrod Taylor
Starting point is 00:04:31 came back in in the second half. You could have done better. I wouldn't have done worse because I never would have thrown five passes. I would have taken the ball, I would have taken a knee and thrown it to the ref after every play. He had negative eight fantasy points. I would have had probably negative two just on the rushing
Starting point is 00:04:47 yards. Ten knees, negative 20, something like that. He's awful. Good for Tyrod. How far out of the playoffs are they? Actually, they're five and five. Baltimore right now is the sixth seed at five and five.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That's incredible. They were the sixth seed at 5-5. Yes. That's incredible. They were the sixth seed when they made the decision to bench Tyrod for Peterman. Well, okay. It didn't work. And now Tyrod Taylor. I'm big on being loyal to your team, and I understand that. All Bills fans have a free pass to choose whatever team you want.
Starting point is 00:05:24 No, no. Yes. Yes. Your team has tried as hard as they can to miss the playoffs. They've traded away half of their good players, and then that didn't work. This is the major league of football. This is the major league. Rachel Phelps is an owner.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Tyrod Taylor is 58% owned. I'm surprised that that many owners held on to him, but he had 19 fantasy points and a half. He's at Kansas City next week. He's got New England twice on his schedule. I think it's pretty clear that's no longer a good matchup, but every other matchup for Tyrod Taylor is very good going forward. So he's relevant again. Kelvin Benjamin, though,
Starting point is 00:06:06 was ruled out for the game with a knee injury. So when I dropped Charles Clay this morning, he's my third tight end on a team. When I dropped him, Nate Peterman was the quarterback and Kelvin Benjamin was healthy. I'm going to really regret dropping Charles Clay, who actually dropped a touchdown in this game. So you probably want to pick him up, Kelvin Benjamin, out. And we don't know what the injury is, but he left in the first quarter with a knee injury. Deontay Foreman tore his Achilles on his second touchdown run of the game. Can't be bad news for Lamar Miller, right?
Starting point is 00:06:35 No, just terrible for the kid. I mean, he's having a monster game, really progressing as the season's gone on, and now he's done. Alfred Blue is going to be involved. They won't just give the ball to Lamar Miller 30 times. So you'll see a little Alfred Blue sprinkled in here and there. But, yeah, I would expect this means a larger share for Lamar Miller. Okay, and in Los Angeles, well, the game was in Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:06:59 but we really would love Robert Woods to not miss any time because he's really emerging, Heath. He had another good game. He had eight catches for 81 yards on 11 targets. He looks really good. He's a talented guy. Finally showing why he was a high draft pick. So Robert Woods was only started in 59% of leagues, but he's got a shoulder injury and will no more, I'm sure, by two years.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, it's just like we said it all year last year. Robert Woods just needs to get out of Sammy Watkins' shadow in Buffalo. That's a good point. I don't know why I never thought about that. Reunited. Well, yeah. Anyway, he had another big game, especially in PPR. Jay Cutler left with a concussion, so Matt Moore takes over
Starting point is 00:07:42 and does very well in the second half. He had 17 fantasy points, and that is basically exactly what he did against the Jets. Then he stunk it up against Baltimore. But what do you think about Matt Moore with New England and then Denver and then New England in his next three games? No, thank you. I'm not interested in that. And you know what? I've just got a beef with you.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Oh. I got a text from you earlier today. We share a team. I think we text from you earlier today. We share a team. I think we've talked about that enough. And I didn't want to start Marvin Jones today. So I binged him this morning for Alex Collins. And Marvin Jones scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And you texted me, I hate you. Hashtag Marvin Jones. And Marvin Jones ended up scoring out Alex Collins. Oh, okay. So I still hate you. I thinkag Marvin Jones. And Marvin Jones end up outscoring Alex Collins. Oh, okay. So I still hate you. So that's legit. I think by a point and a half.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I hope we win by a point and a half. I would just like to say to you, ugh, I hate you. Hashtag Devontae Parker. Yeah. Well, I didn't tell you that we need to start Devontae Parker, did I? You're the only reason Devontae Parker's on our team. I don't know that he needs to be anymore because we know Matt Moore loves Kenny Stills. Yeah. And Kenny Stills had a huge game in this one.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He had well over 100 yards and a touchdown. So go ahead and rank the Dolphins wide receivers going forward. What format? Oh, standard first. Okay. I guess it may not matter. I think I'd go Stills. No, Landry, Stills, Parker.
Starting point is 00:09:08 All right, and the next three matchups might be really, really bad for them. New England twice and Denver. Yeah, I don't think New England would be bad for all of them. True. C.J. Anderson had a costly fumble in the fourth quarter, and he did not get another touch the rest of the game. And Booker had a good game, so keep an eye on that situation. Booker is less than 30% owned.
Starting point is 00:09:29 A.J. Green beat Bradley Roby for a touchdown. Bradley Roby had a terrible game. And honestly, the Broncos coaching staff, you need to point a finger at them because they put Bradley Roby in a situation to fail. They should have shadowed A.J. Green with Harris or with Tlaib, and they didn't. And Roby had a bad game, and ultimately, I think that's the biggest reason they lost. And DeAndre Hopkins beat Patrick Peterson
Starting point is 00:09:51 for a touchdown. So the wide receivers with these brutal matchups, Heath, they came through today. A.J. Green and DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, start your studs. Yeah, and Michael Thomas did too. I don't know if it was that bad of a matchup. I don't think he saw that much of Josh Norman. But if there were some concerns, they were good.
Starting point is 00:10:10 We'll see what happens with Des Bryant tonight or last night, depending on when you listen to this. Here's some buy or sell. Most of it's from our listeners. Some of it's from me. But this one's from Brian. Buy or sell that you have to drop Kareem Hunt in the rankings. Darkwa and Collins are better.
Starting point is 00:10:26 The Buffalo Bills have given up approximately 800 rushing yards over their last three games, and Kareem Hunt faces the Bills next week. And that was only a slight exaggeration. They were over 500 coming into this game. They gave up at least 175 this week. So they're over 700 for the last three weeks. Wow. So I will not be dropping Kareem Hunt in my rankings for this week. So they're over 700 for the last three weeks. Wow. So I will not be dropping Kareem Hunt
Starting point is 00:10:46 in my rankings for this week. I mean, look, 18 carries for 73 yards is not bad. It's not great, but it's not bad. The Giants did have Damon Harrison in the game. I'd like to see him do more in the passing game, Kareem Hunt. Our next buy or sell is from Joy. Kareem Hunt is no longer I could listen to that. Now, again, if we're just talking about Week 12, he is absolutely about as must-start as they come. The week after that, he faces the Jets. The week after that, he faces the Raiders. The week after that, he faces the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I just don't know when you're sitting Kareem Hunt. This is kind of like what happened with Todd Gurley a little bit last year, only it's all happened in the microcosm of one season. But Kareem Hunt gave you seven points in a standard league and ten points in a PPR league today? Yeah. That's not what we expect when we rank him as a top five running back. That's a disappointment. I'm not trying to say it's not.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But the odds that you have two running backs on a regular basis that are giving you that type of production are low. Yeah, and then let's go even farther. The odds that you have someone in your flex that's going to be definitely better than Hunt, he just needs to score. I know he's a disappointment. I own him in leagues. I am disappointed. I understand your disappointment. But let's not go too far.
Starting point is 00:12:12 It's seven straight games without a touchdown. That's really disappointing. And I wish Andy Reid – he's such a good coach, but he does some things that make you think he's Sean McDermott. I mean, like they threw the ball way too much. Kareem Hunt had four carries in the first half, I think. I know. 25-mile-per-hour wins. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You can't do that. This is from Kyle. By yourself, both Ingram and Kamara are top seven running backs rest of season. I believe Ingram and Kamara will both be top seven running backs rest of season, yes. What about Kamara? I'm not sure about Kamara will both be top seven running backs the rest of the season. What about Kamara? I'm not sure about Kamara because I don't know who that is. Top seven. I still feel like
Starting point is 00:12:51 I have one of my better leagues has Kamara. It's PPR. That's obviously an amazing pick. Alvin Kamara in PPR has been one of the best draft picks for fantasy owners. One of the best values. I just, like, I don't feel like he can keep scoring at this rate, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:11 You're right. You're right. But what was he today? Number two running back? Overall? Yeah. Oh, really? He was better than Ingram?
Starting point is 00:13:22 I don't know. In PPR? I'll tell you. So, well, McCoy was probably better. I think they were tied. Yeah, he was right up there. He was probably number one. Tied for number one with Ingram and McCoy.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I'll say he's number seven. And then he drops off in production a little bit for you. All right. Good for the Camaro owners, though. He's been great, and he's catching so many passes. Buy or sell. Phillip Rivers is a top 10 quarterback rest of season. Buy.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Good schedule. He was good today. Only played three quarters, but no, I buy it. Buy or sell from Will. Can't trust Doug Martin anymore. I think that's pretty clear That even with a perfect Gain script, even with a bunch Of work again, even against a defense
Starting point is 00:14:12 That has just been gashed He averaged 2 yards per carry Yeah, I don't know man, like what did he average last year? 2.9 yards per carry? And that's, maybe that's a bad way to say it I'll just say he had 38 carries with high volume But, or 38 carries with high volume. Or 38 yards with high volume.
Starting point is 00:14:28 He was bad. Yeah. People are definitely going to be sitting. Doug Martin, not universally. You get a guy with 19 carries, you always have a chance to score a touchdown. But he's not catching passes, and it's been bad. Byer Sell from Rick. Juju Smith-Schuster will be a top 20 wide receiver rest of season i'm going to sell that i think he's more of a borderline number
Starting point is 00:14:52 two if you said top 25 it'd be closer i definitely think he'll be top 30 this one's from me buyer sell new england is a bad matchup now i i'm conflicted on that because there was still plenty of production to be had marshall lynch gashed them just didn't get enough carries amari cooper despite dropping every other ball that was thrown his way still had a good day um so i'm not i'm not saying i'm not going away from new england the best thing about new eng England is the fact that you're almost guaranteed garbage time. That's true. They are so much better than every other team. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. So much better. This is from Cam. You know what? Let's see what the Eagles do. Maybe the Eagles are in their class, but nobody's going to pick the Eagles to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl if that's what it comes down to. You're not doing it. going to pick the Eagles to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, if that's what it comes down to. Right? No, come on. You're not doing it.
Starting point is 00:15:45 No. From Cam, by yourself, Josh Doxson will be a wide receiver one rest of season. Oh, I think he'll be the Redskins wide receiver one. You do? Yeah. You like him better than Crowder? I do. I like him better than Crowder. He is a guy that leaves a lot of opportunities on the table.
Starting point is 00:16:05 A lot. How is he better than Jamison Crowder? Because of the opportunities he gets, Kirk Cousins throws the ball to him in the end zone. Kirk Cousins throws the ball to him down the field. Jamison Crowder is more in that intermediate area and short targets. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Okay. Buy or sell from Peter. Keenan Allen is a top five wide receiver rest of season. That's probably a little strong, but in PPR, I'm not sure he's that far off. Well, I mean, can we forget about the fact that he just had six straight games with between four and six fantasy points in standard? Why is that PPR. Yeah, but entering today, he had – today was his second game, Keenan Allen's second game with more than five catches.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, and they have a fantastic schedule. We think Phillip Rivers is going to be a top ten quarterback. That's by far his best wide receiver. Hunter Henry is just bad now, so. Yep. No, I mean, the top five is not that crazy just because wide receiver is not what we thought.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Right. But I'm sure we can name five wide receivers we'd rather have. It may come down to something as silly as, does Brandon Cooks have one or two monster games left? Maybe. Does Doug Baldwin have one or two monster games left? By ourself from Chris Long Long David Johnson coming back in time To help people win their fantasy seasons
Starting point is 00:17:28 I really still don't think so But it's worth The speculative ad Just in case I'm not telling you to drop him if I say no But my guess is still no Alright David Johnson Yeah it seems like a bit of a long shot.
Starting point is 00:17:46 This is from Matt. Buy or sell. Now allowing to celebrate touchdowns is the best thing to happen to football since the forward pass. I would not go that far, but I do enjoy the celebrations. You know, it's great. It's like they're not – they're all well-intentioned. They're just guys like having fun. They're not showy.
Starting point is 00:18:10 They're not rubbing it in. Like I kind of felt like – Who cares? Rub it in. Oh, well, I never like that stuff. I hope the next celebration is somebody literally rubbing it in. Yeah, I never like that stuff. And from the do-to-bides, buy or sell the Jaguars DST as a top 15 overall player? I guess that would depend on your scoring system.
Starting point is 00:18:31 There are some of our leagues where defenses score way too many fantasy points, and they might finish in the top 15 in fantasy points. But I would say if that's the case, then you should adjust your scoring system. All right, but they are really, really good, and they deserve to be rewarded for how good they are. This is an outstanding defense. Would you rather have rest of season the Jaguars DST or Emmanuel Sanders?
Starting point is 00:18:56 I would trade Emmanuel Sanders for the Jaguars DST. What about Demarius Thomas? I would take Demarius. Devin Funchess or the Jaguars DST. Funchess. Okay. All right, it's time to call out Heath.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Everybody ready? Everybody excited? Yeah, you're going to screw this up. Why? Go ahead. You used the Game of Thrones gif on Twitter. You don't even like or watch Game of Thrones. You are not allowed to use Jon Snow. You are not allowed to use Jon Snow.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Also correct. You're not allowed to use Jon Snow. So your interpretation is that you can only use a gif if you like the original adaptation of that scene. You don't even understand the references. You don't know anything about Jon Snow. It was a tweet. What was the tweet about? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Weather and the snow and wind. And the tweet was of a man, apparently from Game of Thrones. You don't even know who he was? No. Standing in cold, blustery conditions with snow. Now. It was perfectly applicable. You don't get it.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yes, it was applicable. But you don't get to use Jon Snow when you have denounced Game of Thrones. I didn't denounce it. I just said it's overrated. That's denouncing it. I didn't say it was bad. It's fine. You guys just act like it's really good.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It is really good. Before Season 7, anyway. Okay. I didn't screw up anything there. That was a perfectly lucid argument. No, no. Why don't you do a Twitter poll? Are you allowed to use GIFs from
Starting point is 00:20:25 shows that you don't watch? Okay, I'm fine with that. Do it. Alright, we'll do that right now. Your winners and losers. Let's start with your winners, Heath. Alex Collins. Alex Collins is one of your winners. 78% owned. I'll tell you one thing. The Packers run defensive.
Starting point is 00:20:41 They've given up touchdowns lately. You think about the Amir Abdullah game a couple of weeks ago. Their yards per carry has been very good. Who did they face last week? I keep forgetting. They won Bears. They did a good job against Jordan Howard. Yards per carry has been good. They are giving up touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Collins with 20 carries for 49 yards. Bad yards per carry, but let's give the Packers defense a little bit of credit there. Anyway, why is Alex Collins one of your winners? Yeah, this isn't even so much about his production, although we'll certainly take the 20. It's the touches. 20 carries in Danny Woodhead's first game back. Also got four receptions. They were throwing the ball to him more than they were throwing it to anyone but Danny Woodhead,
Starting point is 00:21:23 which was kind of surprising. They have decided that Alex Collins is their number one running back. Danny Woodhead is their third down running back. And that's outstanding for Alex Collins' owners. Because we've had some confusion. I didn't start Alex Collins in at least one league this week because I was a little concerned about his role. Now, I was happy to start him in our shared league over Marvin Jones.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I don't know why. It was a losing play. Yeah, it did turn out to be a losing play. But no, this was a very good development, and I think you have to view him as a pretty solid number two in non-PPR leagues. Twitter etiquette question. On Twitter, are you allowed to use gifs from tv shows that you don't like don't watch but you don't like it don't okay sure like slash watch i just posted it okay
Starting point is 00:22:15 that's fine you all right with that yep i'm good with that crap you're killing me here 85 to 15 13 votes in we got time we got time your time. Your other winner is Tyrod Taylor. I think we talked about him, but I think you could definitely use him at Kansas City in week 12. So losers from this week. This is an interesting one. 80% owned James White. What do you think his ownership percentage should
Starting point is 00:22:37 be after waivers run on Tuesday? I mean, I think probably in half of leagues, maybe 50% you hold on to him just because your league's deep enough that you figure the patriots running back mario go round is going to come back to james white at some point before the season is over but right now there's not he's not does not have the role that he had at the beginning of the year. Rex Burkhead's getting a lot more targets. Deion Lewis got more targets in this game.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And I think it looks pretty clear for, I'm not going to say for the rest of the season, but currently, until somebody fumbles or misses a block, this is a Deion Lewis-Rex Burkhead backfield. Rex Burkhead did fumble today. But it was okay. I don't know how okay with it. I think a lot of his carries came late. I'm not 100% sure on that, but it's a Deion Lewis ball carrier
Starting point is 00:23:32 backfield. He's going to lead them. He's probably going to lead them in carries most weeks, if not every week, going forward. Would you agree? I would disagree with your ability to say that. It's the New England Patriots. But he leads them in carries every week. I bet he's led them in carries five weeks in a row.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah, I think that's probably right. And we're 11 weeks into the season, and Mike Gillisley led them in carries the first six weeks. Gillisley's done. Gillisley got the chance, and he blew it. Why do we have this argument every week, and then every week, Deion Lewis leads them in carries? We had this argument the first six weeks of the season with Mike Gillisley. No, I don't—because Gilleslie wasn't doing well. Like, Lewis is doing well.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And a receiving touchdown today? Oh, my God, that was amazing. That was huge. That was huge. He's so good in that role. I don't expect it. I don't think you can expect it from Deion Lewis in the passing game. But, man, if they start using him that way, it would make sense.
Starting point is 00:24:25 He's so good. That's what he used to do for them. Oh, yeah. I think he's their best pass-catching running back. And they've got three really good ones. Your other loser is Doug Martin. I think we covered him. Would you rather have Samaj P. Ryan or Doug Martin?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Who does Washington play next week? Giants on Thursday. Doug Martin plays at Atlanta. I'd probably stick with Martin. I don't like Doug Martin's schedule very much. No, no. And I don't even know how much his schedule matters after what he just did against the Dolphins. That's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:56 All right, let's play a game that we usually do on the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. We're going to bring it. I've done it before on the football podcast, but here we go. It's called Hey Real Quick. Hey, real Quick, Heath. Alex Collins or Deion Lewis? Ooh. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I believe I would go Deion Lewis. I would like to have both. Philip Rivers or Alex Smith? Rivers. All right. Can we forgive Alex Smith, though, for this bad performance? Can we call it weather-related? This is not – see, when you called me out on Twitter, that was not what I thought I was going to get called out for.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Oh. Oh, the Patrick Mahomes thing? What's that? The Patrick Mahomes thing? Yeah, I did tweet – and first off, the whole retweet if thing is really kind of cheesy. What is that? Retweet if you're ready for the Patrick Mahomes era. Oh, you did that?
Starting point is 00:25:52 A lot of people are. A lot of people are ready. Yeah, I'm not necessarily forgiving Alex Smith. It's just I don't. He's Alex Smith still. Alex Smith, as I looked at it this morning, Alex Smith, I would say, has been one of the most matchup-dependent quarterbacks this year. When he's had good matchups, he's really killed those good matchups.
Starting point is 00:26:15 When he's had bad matchups, he hasn't done very well. This game was a good matchup, but 25-mile-per-hour wins, that's a big deal. And the two teams really didn't throw the ball down Field very much at all Until the Chiefs actually had to Or until Travis Kelsey threw a pass Which was intercepted He's got a great arm
Starting point is 00:26:35 He does, great arm Travis Kelsey and Shane Vereen threw interceptions in this game It was weird Travis Kelsey and Shane Vereen threw picks It was very strange I think that's the second time in three weeks Weird. What's that? Travis Kelsey and Shane Vereen threw picks. It was very strange. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think that's the second time in three weeks that the Chiefs have thrown an interception that wasn't Alex Smith throwing the ball. Tyreek Hill threw one against the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I don't know what Andy Reid is doing. Yeah. Well. He would like you to know that he has a very big playbook. Like, Alex Smith does have good matchups going forward. He has Buffalo at the Jets, Oakland, and the Chargers, and Miami. Like, he's got a great schedule. You took Rivers over.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Four of those are at home. He's a lot better on the road. You buy that, or you think it's fluky? I think it's fluky. All right. All right, but just because you're taking Rivers over him doesn't mean you're burying Alex Smith. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Hey, real quick. Ben Roethlisberger or Kirk Cousins, rest of season? I'm looking at the schedules. I think I'll take Ben. Okay. I think I'll take Ben, but they're both still low-end number ones for me. I'm still kind of tilting over what Ben did on Thursday night. And then, hey, real quick, Ben Roethlisberger or Drew Brees rest of season?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Brees. 25 fantasy points for Brees. That's good. That's good. But we still haven't had a big game. He hasn't had more than 26 and six points for passing touchdown leagues. But, I mean, the last two drives of the game, he completed 11 of 11 passes.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Like, the guy can still play. It's pretty obvious. Hey, real quick, Heath. Amari Cooper or Jamison Crowder, rest of season? Cooper. You sure? Yep. No hesitation. Hey, real quick. Michael Crabtree or Marvin
Starting point is 00:28:23 Jones? Crabtree or Marvin Jones? Crabtree. Alvin Kamara or A.J. Green? Ooh. Yeah, I know. It's a good one. That is a good one. I think I'll go A.J.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Okay. I mean, it's great that A.J. Green was able to score against Denver and terrible coaching, bad decisions. So I think, you know, maybe Denver's hiring a new defensive coordinator next year. I'm not sure. But if you are hiring or if you could be hiring sometime in the future, remember this URL, ziprecruiter.com slash FFT. Ziprecruiter.com slash FFT. ZipRecruiter is great if you need the right talent for your business,
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Starting point is 00:29:46 ZipRecruiter.com slash FFT. That's ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Some more news and notes for you from around the NFL. The Saints' top cornerback, Marshawn Lattimore, he's been a big reason why they've turned their defense around. He left with an injury. We'll keep an eye on that. Leonard Floyd of the Chicago Bears, their linebacker, he has a potentially serious knee injury. Drew Brees says, I don't know why I put this in the notes. I heard it during the broadcast. I thought maybe you'd be interested. Troy Aikman
Starting point is 00:30:13 said on the broadcast that Drew Brees says he's never been around a more competitive wide receiver than Michael Thomas. I like that. Green Bay linebacker Clay Matthews left with a groin injury. Apparently Duke Johnson limped off the field late in the fourth quarter. Haven't seen anything about that. The Jacksonville DST, in addition to scoring a defensive touchdown,
Starting point is 00:30:32 they got screwed out of another defensive touchdown. And Rams cornerbacks Kayvon Webster and Nikkel Roby Coleman, they both left with injuries. Two Rams defensive backs leaving with an injury. Heath, let's play a quick game of who's the boss, Mona? Who's the boss of the Minnesota backfield, Jarek McKinnon or Latavius Murray? Latavius Murray is, I guess, technically the boss.
Starting point is 00:30:57 He would be Angela. Pretty annoying, but definitely getting the most out of the situation. But Jarek McKinnon is still Tony because he's cool. And I would still rather start McKinnon on a regular basis. Alright, it's two kind of duds in a row for him.
Starting point is 00:31:17 60 total yards, 57 total yards in his last two games. Kind of duds. I mean, he was still good in PPR today, right? Not really. I mean, 11 fantasy points is not bad. It's not great, but McKinnon,
Starting point is 00:31:31 Jamie brought up a good point. After the bye, maybe his ankle healed. After their bye, he's had his best games. Right. You mean Murray? Correct. Murray, yeah. So, Murray with 15 carries for 95 yards and 2 touchdowns after 17 for 68 and a touchdown last week. And now this is five straight games with 15 or more carries.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Last thing, he seems to get the short yardage work. That's the key. Yeah, that's why he's Angela. Angela. All right. Who's the boss in the Miami backfield? Oh, man. I guess it's Damian Williams.
Starting point is 00:32:12 We wanted it to be Kenyon Drake. He has had a couple of really big plays. But once again, at the start of this game, they're giving Damian Williams more work. Damian Williams had the big play this week. Kenyon Drake did absolutely nothing. I think you have to view it as Williams, but I don't want to start either one. Who's the boss in the Baltimore wide receiving core?
Starting point is 00:32:35 Oh, yeah. We're getting back on the Mike Wallace hype train, baby. Four for 56 and a touchdown. Great matchup against Houston. I will say that it's pretty much a split decision, but I'll give a slight edge to Wallace. All right, Wallace is 36% owned. And Green Bay, I mean, every week they give up nine or more fantasy points
Starting point is 00:32:58 to a wide receiver. I figured it would be Macklin. It was Wallace. And most weeks they give up like eight fantasy points to a second wide receiver. They didn't do that in this game. But Joe Flacco, you know, not very good. He didn't play that badly today, but they have a bad passing game. I think that's about it.
Starting point is 00:33:13 We've covered all the other who's the bosses. So let's go to the leaderboard and take a look at the top five quarterbacks in fantasy week 11. Ben Roethlisberger still number one. And remember the Sunday night and Monday night games have not happened. Roethlisberger one. Kirk Cousins two. Tom Brady tied for second with 31 fantasy points. Also with Kirk Cousins. This is six points for passing
Starting point is 00:33:34 touchdown leagues. Man, high scoring week for these quarterbacks. Roethlisberger, Cousins, Brady. Breeze four. Yo Gabbert Gabbert five. Blaine Gabbert number five, Heath. Get ready to stream Joe Flacco. YoGabbertGabbert5 BlaineGabbert5 Heath Get ready to stream Joe Flacco
Starting point is 00:33:49 Is all I can say about that I guess yeah Taking advantage of that Actually that is pretty amazing That's how bad Houston's pass defense is That's amazing But it didn't stop Larry Fitzgerald Another nice game
Starting point is 00:34:01 Good for him Alright then Anything else to say about Roethlisberger Cousinsins, Brady, or Breeze? I don't really think so. That's fine. I thought it was really interesting, just going back to Thursday night real quick. I'm sure you guys talked about it a lot on Friday.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I thought it was really interesting that this was the game where they've got a two-score lead and Ben gets 40-plus pass attempts. Because on a per-pass basis, he wasn't really that good. Still averaged 6.6 yards per attempt. Yeah, but they wanted to go no huddle. They wanted to go hurry up, and they did. And I wonder what that means for Le'Veon. Well, he had nine catches.
Starting point is 00:34:38 We did talk about that. In PPR, you're safe. Right. He's so good in the passing game as a receiver. All right, your top five running backs this week in standard scoring were LaShawn McCoy, Mark Ingram, Latavius Murray, Deontay Foreman, and Alvin Kamara. And since Foreman is out for the season, we'll go to the sixth,
Starting point is 00:34:58 which was Jordan Howard. On just 15 carries, he had 125 yards and a touchdown. LaShawn McCoy, Mark Ingram, Latavius Murray, Deontay Foreman, Alvin Kamara, and Jordan Howard, Heath. I guess all that worrying about LeSean McCoy was all for naught, and especially now that Tyrod Taylor is back as the quarterback. I think he's going to be just fine. And Melvin Gordon had a good game too with 14 fantasy points,
Starting point is 00:35:21 20 carries, 80 yards, and a touchdown. Your top five wide receivers in fantasy week 11 in standard scoring. Antonio Brown, Keenan Allen, Kenny Stills, Brandon Cooks, and Adam Thielen. Brown, Allen, Stills, Cooks, and Thielen. Adam Thielen is amazing. When we were talking about Minnesota, I should have said that he's Mona because he's hot. Is Mona hot?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Mona was the hot grandma, remember? Alright, let me Let me look up Mona This is not going to end well Mona from Who's the Boss? Google Image This is not going to end well Oh god, you idiots! Oh my god Why is she in a bikini in this picture On Who's the Boss? Idiots. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Why is she in a bikini in this picture on who's the boss? That was not what I was expecting. Wow. You're the boss right now for making me do that. Congratulations. Good work. You're welcome. Adam Thielen, Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Rank them rest of season. Adam Thielen, Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen. I will go – I don't have to do week-to-week scoring. It's just total points scored. Yeah, sure. I'll go Cooks, Thielen, Allen. Cooks, Thielen, Allen. Would you take Cooks over... Would you take
Starting point is 00:36:37 Thielen over Cooks in PPR? Yes. Alright. Your top five tight ends this week Fantasy Week 11 Oh, this one, I called this I don't remember, I called the two touchdown game For Ricky Seals Jones Yes, RSJ
Starting point is 00:36:56 Remember when he was good in Tampa? Oh yeah, exactly Ricky Seals Jones, three catches, 54 yards And two touchdowns, that was bizarre OJ Howard, 11 fantasy points He's had three games, 54 yards, and two touchdowns That was bizarre O.J. Howard, 11 fantasy points He's had three games, I believe, with 11 or more fantasy points And every other game With less than 20 yards
Starting point is 00:37:13 So I don't think you have to worry about Howard Adam Shaheen Four for 41 on a touchdown Kobe Fleener Nine fantasy points That's how bad the Redskins are against tight ends And Delaney Walker on Thursday night With six catches for 92 yards Kobe Fleener, nine fantasy points. That's how bad the Redskins are against tight ends. And Delaney Walker on Thursday night with six catches for 92 yards.
Starting point is 00:37:33 So it's Ricky Seals-Jones, O.J. Howard, Adam Shaheen, Kobe Fleener, Delaney Walker. Kelsey would have been ahead of Fleener and Walker, but he threw a freaking interception. I think we're going to have to count this one as a win for you. You were telling me last week about how good tight end is this year. And Gronk and Kelsey aren't even top five tight ends because we have all these other great tight ends. Vernon Davis had another good game. Good enough. Three for 67.
Starting point is 00:37:56 This is not a win for me at all. Because of the top five tight ends, four of them were not started at all. Seals, Jones, Howard, Shaheen, and Fleener. It was not a good week for tight ends. I know that. Yeah. It was not a win for you.
Starting point is 00:38:08 No, it wasn't. It wasn't a good week for tight ends. Evan Ingram was a dud. Rob Gronkowski was a dud. We haven't had Ertz as we do this podcast. Jared Cook was a dud. Why don't we stay on that? Anybody that disappointed this week at tight end that red flags are up?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Uh, Jared Cook. Every time. And not every time literally, but it feels like every time we even consider counting on Jared Cook as a guaranteed top 10 tight end, he does this to us. Yeah. So you deserve it. Yeah. Um, well, we'll have Greg Olson next week. We'll also have Greg Olson on the podcast
Starting point is 00:38:46 Interviewing him on Tuesday You should hear that on Wednesday We'll have Greg Olson back next week And maybe Jordan Reed Who knows Not even sure that would be a good thing at this point With the way Vernon Davis has played Almost touchdowns
Starting point is 00:38:57 Jordan Howard came up a yard short of a touchdown Right before Adam Shaheen caught his Cooper Cupp fumbled around the two yard line Mike Evans was open in the end zone. He couldn't hang on to a pretty hot pass from Fitzpatrick. Charles Clay had a touchdown callback on offensive pass interference. On the next play, he dropped a touchdown. And then on the next play, LaShawn McCoy caught a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So McCoy benefited from two almost touchdowns from Charles Clay. Dre Kirkpatrick, Bengals cornerback, picks off Brock Oxweiler a yard deep in the end zone. Maybe two yards deep in the end zone. Runs it back 100 yards to the one. Fumbles the football. Falls on it down at the one.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Should have been a touchdown for Kirkpatrick and the Bengals DST. And then on consecutive plays in the Chargers Bills game, Antonio Gates and Hunter Henry had end zone targets. Neither of them could haul it in. Tough catches to make. They didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:39:52 All right, we go to the games. We go to New England and Oakland in Mexico City. We had a 60-plus yard field goal from Stephen Gostkowski in very high altitude. So it wasn't, you know So it was no big deal. I probably could have done that. Tom Brady, big game, 31 fantasy points. He had 28 last week. We have spent enough time talking about the Patriots running backs.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Although, to be honest, it was a bad game for Rex Burkhead, Heath. Five carries, four catches, 37 total yards. Yeah, he was a disappointment. Deion Lewis is just getting a bigger chunk. And speaking of Patriots running backs, Eagles running backs are the new Patriots running backs.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Oh, yeah? They just marched down the field destroying the Cowboys on their very first drive. And everybody was good. Jay Ajayi with one carry for six yards and a catch for 10. LeGarrette Blount, two carries for 11 yards. Kenyon Barner caught a 22-yard pass.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Then they had first and goal from the four, and they gave it to Barner for the touchdown. A handoff to Barner? Yes. Oh, what a crock of crap. That helps nobody. That sucks. That sucks. Yes, I have Carson Wentz in several
Starting point is 00:41:10 leagues. That sucks. Okay. Marshawn Lynch. Thoughts going forward? He will have Denver next week, then the Giants, then the Chiefs. Lynch had 11 carries for 67 yards, and he just hasn't had more than 14 since week one, 14 carries.
Starting point is 00:41:27 This is exactly what Marshawn Lynch is. He gets you the six or seven points. That's fine as a high-end number three running back. You're probably starting him if you start a flex, and maybe he scores a touchdown, and maybe you get that one week where he scores two. Yeah. I don't think you're starting him at a flex and maybe he scores a touchdown and maybe you get that one week where he scores two. Yeah. I don't think you're starting him at a flex in PPR most weeks.
Starting point is 00:41:50 No. No, I agree. Yeah. And then, like, people get annoyed that we rank Amari Cooper high, and I get it. And this was not – I mean, three catches, 28 yards, and a touchdown? Fine. But the Patriots do have good cornerbacks, and Malcolm Butler was on Cooper for most of the game. They did a really good job.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I don't know. What do you think? You like Cooper going forward? I think he has as much potential in any given game as just about any receiver in the NFL. He also has more bust potential than just about any receiver in the NFL. I think there are going to be some coaching changes on that staff next year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I think offensive coordinator could be a different name. They're huge underachievers. They're having a terrible year. All right, Chargers 54, Bills 24. Chargers had the ball for about 12 more minutes than the Bills. Anything here for the Bills that we haven't talked about? I mean, it's just good news. It's good news for them that Tyrod's back.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I did not feel optimistic about Kelvin Benjamin's injury seeing it, but I've not heard anything yet. So we'll have to wait and see on that. I guess you have to really consider Zay Jones a little bit more of a sleeper. He's getting up over 50% of his targets caught, and if he gets – I mean, if Benjamin's out, he may be getting 8 to 10 targets a game. Yep, might be somebody to look at. And Phillip Rivers, I mean, we told you out, he may be getting 8 to 10 targets a game. Yep, might be somebody to look at.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And Phillip Rivers, I mean, we told you to buy low on Phillip Rivers. The schedule is just so good going forward. At Dallas, Cleveland. I guess that Dallas game must be Thursday, huh? At Dallas, Cleveland, Washington, at Kansas City, at the Jets, Oakland. So good stuff there. How do you feel about the fact that I started Austin Eckler against you in a league and he scored a touchdown?
Starting point is 00:43:46 What, FFT? Or podcast league? Podcast league. Well, that's stupid. Austin Eckler's not bad. I think he's 54%. Do you think the Melvin Gordon owner has to have him, has to have Eckler? I don't know that you have to.
Starting point is 00:44:01 If you're three or four deep at running back with starting running backs, then maybe you don't. But if you're a little thin, then yes. Eckler's touchdown came late in the game. I mean, he had six carries and Gordon had 20. So I don't think there's a controversy there. No, no, not at all. Cincinnati 20, Denver 17.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Denver had the ball for 35 minutes and 11 seconds. They dominated the time of possession. The touchdown, the interception in the end zone is the biggest play of the game, but the poor use of Bradley Roby also cost them. And how about Andy Dalton? 24 fantasy points against the Broncos. The Broncos give up a lot of passing touchdowns. It's very weird, and they haven't been that bad of a matchup.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It's weird. But Dalton's got Cleveland next week, Heath, and he's 67% on. Yeah. Let's hope that the wind's not blowing 110 miles an hour so that we can actually feel confident using him. How do you feel about Joe Mixon? Like Joe Mixon, Doug Martin, Marshawn Lynch, who do you like the best in that group? I like Marshawn, I think, the best, which is saying something because I pretty much hate Marshawn. Now I'm thinking about something, Heath.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Maybe this was a good week for my tight end argument. Oh, boy. Because all I said was that nobody's really getting killed at tight end because there's so many guys who are kind of the same. I think the people that started off Evan Ingram today feel
Starting point is 00:45:22 like they got killed. He was a bust. He was a dud. CJ Anderson with the fumble. I think this really bears watching. Go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say about tight end, though. Tyler Croft was one of our favorite streamers, and he only scored seven fantasy points, but that's good enough to be a streamer the way that it is now. Yeah, Dave and I had a huge argument on FFT this morning over C.J. Anderson. And I texted Dave after the Anderson touchdown because he had like 10 fantasy points in the first quarter and a half.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And said, you were right, good call on C.J. Anderson. And I think he scored negative two the rest of the way, so it was a push. I don't feel good about him moving forward at all. Well, because of the fumble? Because even in this game where he scored the touchdown, he was sharing work and he was not good on a per carry basis. Yeah. I wish they would just go to one guy.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah, I don't believe they're going to. This might be the impetus to... They lost again. Their season's pretty much over. Were they 3-7? This might be the reason to go to Booker. I think you have to pick up Booker. I look forward to hearing what Dave and Jamie have to say about it
Starting point is 00:46:37 as well on Tuesday, but we'll see. Sometimes fumbles mean nothing, but all I know is he fumbled in the fourth quarter. It was a huge play. He didn't get a touch the rest of the game. That's correct. Demarius Thomas, he did nothing. He didn't have a catch in the first half.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And then six catches, 54 yards, and a touchdown. So that's three games with a touchdown now with Osweiler. And the thing I noticed also that we'll have to keep an eye on with their receivers is they seem to be running a lot more sets with out demarius thomas or emmanuel sanders on the field say that again a lot more sets without either thomas or sanders on the field they're definitely working the young receivers in there quite a bit as well interesting okay. Okay. Do you think it's crazy to drop Emmanuel Sanders? Yeah. I don't know if I would call it crazy. I probably wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Maybe in a 10-team league. Okay. All right. I mean, look, he has been this guy for so long. Good game, bad game, good game, good game, bad game, bad game, bad game, huge game. That's him. Houston 31, Arizona 21.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yo Gabbert Gabbert, 25 fantasy points. You know what that reference is, by the way? You're too old. Yes. I watched Yo Gabba Gabba. Oh, I've seen hours and hours and hours of that show, and it was by far, undeniably, the best kid show for your kids to watch.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Fresh Beat Band. No, because they always had awesome guests. The Yo Gabba Gabba with Jack Black. I never saw that one. I'd be really shocked if it didn't win some sort of an award. Well, doesn't Sesame Street have great guests all the time? Eh, but they have Muppets. They have Muppets?
Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah. Isn't that a different show, Sesame Street and Muppets? But a lot of the Muppets are on Sesame Street. Are they? Okay, I guess that's why I've been so confused. Maybe I'm wrong. Adrian Peterson, 14 carries for 26 yards with the Jaguars, then the Rams, then the Titans. Cut him.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah? Cut him? What are you going to do with him? I mean, would you cut him for Jamal Williams? We cannot believe in the fresh legs thing anymore. He's not going to have any more games this season, I don't believe, where he has more than a week off. No, but if you're looking at your waiver wire, you're stuck at running back one week and you see a guy who's, oh, he could get me 20
Starting point is 00:49:11 carries. What did we think about Samaje Pirine going into this week? We didn't think he was any good. He had a good game. I would rather have Pirine than Peterson. I would rather have... Who were those three you just asked me about? Doug Martin, Marshawn Lynch, and Joe Mixon. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Take them all over, Adrian Peterson. Okay. We had Lamar Miller with a receiving touchdown, 22 carries. And we talked about this. Yeah, we don't talk about this. DeAndre Hopkins, very good. Bruce Ellington, 4% owned, 6 for 63 on seven targets. If Will Fuller is out, I'm not saying he's a must-own, but – oh, actually, they have – who do they have next week?
Starting point is 00:49:51 Oh, they're at Baltimore? I thought they were at Jacksonville, but that's Arizona. Sorry. If Bruce Ellington is playing and Will Fuller is not, he needs to be owned in more than 4% of leagues. And I'm really – this doesn't have a lot to do with fantasy, but I want to see what Jacksonville does next week against Larry Fitzgerald. Are they going to move one of those young corners inside to try to shut Larry Fitzgerald down? And can they?
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yes, I think they can. I don't know. You're talking about one of the top three receivers of all time. If it's Gabbard or Stanton in there, I think they could shut down Larry Fitzgerald. Okay. All right, Detroit 27, Chicago 24. What do you think about Amir Abdullah and Theo Riddick? They switched roles. Abdullah got the receiving touchdown.
Starting point is 00:50:36 He had 11 carries. Riddick had nine carries and was not great, but he was better than Abdullah. What do you think about the backfield here? It was so funny, too, because right before that receiving touchdown, they gave Theo Riddick a carry inside the fight. Yep. What are you guys doing? I feel slightly less confident about Amir Abdullah being a number two running back than I did.
Starting point is 00:51:00 If they're going to split the carry 60-40, then Amir Abdullah is in big trouble. Abdullah or Mixon rest of season? I'll still say Abdullah. Really? Because I think Mixon is going to get more carries. I think that's the case too, but he needs more carries. That's true. He needs 20 of them to get to 50 yards.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah. Not a great schedule for him, for Mixon. Okay. Golden Tate, great call by Dave. I know Dave had him still ranked pretty high because you've got to respect Golden Tate. But he said Vic Fangio game plans to take Golden Tate out of the game, and he did. Three catches, 32 yards on four targets. So do you trust Marvin Jones going forward?
Starting point is 00:51:46 And their next game is Thursday at home on Matt'sgiving. I call that because Matthew Stafford owns Thanksgiving against Minnesota, who they faced last year on Thanksgiving. Yes, I trust him. Marvin Jones? I'm sorry. I thought you said Golden Tate. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:52:03 You should trust Golden Tate. You trust Marvin Jones. Is Rhodes fully healthy? I don't know. If Rhodes is healthy, I would say no. Okay. Now, are we going to fight about Marvin Jones every week in our league or what? Well, I wouldn't guess we're going to fight about him every week.
Starting point is 00:52:24 This is the first week that I've said anything about it. It was bad weather conditions. I didn't want the downfield receiver. And it only cost us two points. It was the right call. It was the wrong call. All right. Now, in this game, Tariq Cohen.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Another thing that Dave mentioned on the mailbag show on Saturday that I guess there have been a lot of calls to get him more involved, and he was. Nine carries, 44 yards and a touchdown, four catches for 15 yards. Tariq Cohen is 69% owned. What do you think? Very nice performance from Cohen, and they should do this. Their path to victory is give Jordan Howard 20 touches, give Tariq Cohen 15 touches,
Starting point is 00:53:07 and hope the other team doesn't score too many points. People are so dumb. On Twitter, are you allowed to use gifs from TV shows that you don't like? 66% say yes. Dumb. Stupid. So you're wrong. Baltimore 23, Green Bay nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:24 The positive here is Devontae Adams, Heath. He had another big game. Hit over 100 yards. I think he's pretty clearly the number one wide receiver. We have really no use for Jordy Nelson any longer. Eight catches for 126 yards for Devontae Adams. And, yeah, we do have no use. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:53:44 That's such a sad thing to say. It is. Jamal Williams, 70% owned. He had 20 carries for 67 yards last week. Sorry, I don't have his numbers in front of me. I will in one second. He had 18 carries for 57 yards this week. So what do you think?
Starting point is 00:54:02 18 carries, about 60 yards, and hopefully a touchdown every week? I think that's exactly what you're hoping for. Actually, I'm reading this wrong. I'm reading the stats right, but I'm misreading the situation. Ty Montgomery is the guy, right? When he's healthy? I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Well, a couple things. I don't know how quickly Ty Montgomery is going to be quote-unquote healthy. Once he is healthy, I don't know how quickly Ty Montgomery is going to be quote-unquote healthy. Once he is healthy, I don't know how long you would expect him to stay healthy. And I don't know why the Packers would have any faith in being able to give him the ball more than 10 or 12 times in a game. Because he can't stay healthy. So I was a Ty Montgomery guy, and I still love his talent. But he's pretty much shown that he can't stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Jacksonville 19, Cleveland 7. Are we sticking by Marquise Lee? He had five catches for 45 yards on nine targets. Yes. I talked about this before the game this morning, and I dropped him quite a ways in my rankings. It was like 35 degrees in Cleveland with sustained winds of 20 to 25 miles an hour and gusts above 30.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Marquise Lee was born in SoCal, went to college in SoCal, and has played his entire professional career in Florida. I didn't expect him to have a good game. Yeah, and the wind, I think, is an even bigger factor. It's just hard to pass, really hard to pass. Mercedes Lewis got the touchdown against Cleveland. That's not a big surprise. That means Tyler Croft next week is going to score against Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And what do you make of this bad game for Isaiah Crowell? 11 carries for 18 yards. I think the more important thing to take from that is this is now three straight games that the Jags have just been amazing against the run. And we kind of viewed them as a defense that you couldn't throw on, but you could still run on, and you just can't. You can't. No.
Starting point is 00:55:48 And Corey Coleman, 34% owned, six catches for 80 yards on 11 targets. Nice. Very exciting. Absolutely. Josh Gordon could come back in a few weeks. I think two more games, but we'll see. Could come back. Corey Coleman, 34% owned.
Starting point is 00:56:04 He'll be added in a lot of leagues. Giants, 12. Chiefs, 9. So we said we can kind of forgive Alex Smith. Can we kind of forgive Eli Manning? Is there any reason to own him? 61% owned at Washington on Thursday. How's Sterling
Starting point is 00:56:19 Shepard's headaches? Let's say Shepard plays. Then yeah, he'll be a top 15 quarterback. Orland's dark was not bad. He gets about 70 rushing yards every week now. Yep. Yeah, he's a – I think you have to view him as a top 20 running back, ahead of a lot of these guys that we've talked about so far today.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Ahead of Darkwood, ahead of Mixon, ahead of Martin. Yep. Ahead of Lynch, ahead of Peterson, all those guys. Samajit, Peter, Ryan, Orleans, Darkwa. I think for the rest of the season, I'd probably say Darkwa. Were you really angry with this game? I kind of was, but then after the early games, I checked my scores to see how things are going, and I saw that I was crushing you in the FFT League.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I was like, yeah, it's good. Okay. It was such a nice feeling to not care at all about the outcome of the game. Like, I don't care. I don't want them to lose, but I want them to draft one of those great quarterbacks. Right. It was a pretty bad win for them, worst loss for the Chiefs. Minnesota 24, Rams 7.
Starting point is 00:57:24 How about that Vikings defense? So what do you think about Jared Goff going forward? Is he anything other than a matchups guy? And he's got the Saints next week. I don't think I'm going to shy away from him against the Saints at home next week. I'm a little bit concerned about him rest of season. He's going to be a low-end number one or high-end number two. We expected this.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It was a little worse than what we expected, but we expected him to come back to earth a little bit. Yeah, definitely. And anything else from this game? We talked about Minnesota's running backs. Sammy Watkins, 91% owned, drop or hold? It really seems like maybe you can't just guarantee somebody's going to score a touchdown when he's getting two to three targets every week.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So, yeah. I don't. He's a boom-bust flex play each week. But he's going to bust more often than he booms. Who would you rather have rest of the season, Robert Woods if he's healthy or Stefan Diggs? Diggs. New Orleans 34, Washington 31, the other overtime game. And, oh, the Bonanza.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I got it four in a row. Bonanza by the Bayou. I don't know what we need to take. Ted Ginn. He's interesting. Ted Ginn or Robert Woods? I think I would still say Woods. This was, I was a little bit concerned, and I haven't seen the snap counts yet,
Starting point is 00:58:47 because Ginn's production really dropped last week, and it looked like Willie Sneed was starting to get more involved. I know Sneed got some targets in this game, but when Ginn catches all of his targets, it doesn't really matter. Yeah, he did it again. That's incredible. So he had six catches for 87 yards. Good game.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Big game for fantasy. We like it. Tampa Bay 30, Miami yards. Good game. Big game for fantasy. We like it. Tampa Bay 30, Miami 20. Mike Evans still doesn't have 100 yards in a game. That's weird. But I was encouraged by the way Fitzmagic played. And I think he's going to still be a number one wide receiver the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Fantasy's funny, man. I was so mad. I was going to pick up Jay Cutler, but I picked up Ryan Fitzpatrick. Cutler was on waivers. Fitzpatrick was a free agent. And I was like, you know what? The next day I'm going to drop Fitzpatrick to pick up Cutler because Cutler cleared waivers. I didn't want to give up my waiver wire priority for whatever reason. Somebody else beat me to it.
Starting point is 00:59:38 They picked up Cutler. I was so mad. Turned out to be a 20-point difference. Ryan Fitzpatrick was better than Jay Cutler. And I think we can pretty much say that it's a fact that Cameron Brait is not a thing with Ryan Fitzpatrick as quarterback. That is true. Deshaun Jackson, two catches, 28 yards, and a touchdown. Are you confident in him going forward?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Not at all. Me either. Me either. Would you drop Deshaun Jackson? No. I'd rather drop Emmanuel Sanders. I think I might drop Deshaun Jackson for Devontae Booker. That would just depend so much on your team. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Like on our team, we have Deshaun Jackson, and I absolutely would not. Because we have Devontae Parker, who we can't trust anymore. Well, and we have LaShawn McCoy, DeMarco Murray, Derek Henry And Alex Collins Yes you name one reliable running back We don't have much fab left anyway So don't worry about it That's Heath Cummings I'm Adam Azer
Starting point is 01:00:37 And we'll talk to you on Tuesday We should have a full week of shows for Thanksgiving And we'll be having some fun And getting you ready for the holidays. So thanks for listening, everybody. Talk to you on Tuesday.

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