Fantasy Football Today - 11/20: Who to Trust, League-Winners, IND-HOU, Regulators! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 20, 2019

Busy show today as we try to talk about as many players as we can. First, a look at the news as we get injury updates on some critical Colts and Texans. And should you be stashing Brandin Cooks and Ev...an Engram (7:35)? Then we talk about some players who are coming on strong lately and whether or not they can win you a league (12:00). Bo Scarbrough, Deebo Samuel, DeVante Parker and more ... Who can you trust these days??? (21:40) Tom Brady? Jimmy Garoppolo? Aaron Jones? Derrick Henry? And we answer your Apple Podcast questions (36:05) and preview IND-HOU (39:18) ... Fantasy Regulators (49:30)! Some crucial questions to answer before the Fantasy playoffs being. And we end the show by reading a bunch of your tweets (58:30) about David Johnson, Jameis Winston, Allen Robinson, Jaylen Samuels and many more ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Well, we are into Week 12, so you know what we need to do? We need to talk about a lot of players, okay? Like, more than we've ever talked about. Heath, Ben, can we do it? In the next hour, can we just get through a whole bunch of dudes? No chance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah, we can get through a lot of players. I do have an important question, though, first. I'm dealing with a moral quandary this morning. And I feel like you two are the best or maybe the listeners on twitter but today is our office thanksgiving potluck dinner and everyone's walking in with these huge dishes of probably delicious food that smells very good and unsurprisingly i didn't bring anything um can i still go eat though of course of course yeah yes even though i didn't bring anything um can i still go eat though of course of course yeah yes even though i didn't bring anything i never brought anything and i always i never
Starting point is 00:02:12 yes you should definitely feel bad but you can still go eat all the food like you're doing it right don't feel bad at all i mean this is like when i worked at that office i was i was one of the first in line and I didn't bring anything. So I wouldn't worry about it. Okay, so we do have a lot to get to. So Thursday night, we're going to preview the Thursday night game, and it's a big one with some difficult starter decisions. Since we last spoke to you on the podcast,
Starting point is 00:02:38 Jordan Wilkins was limited in practice. So that made, I can say, me, Dave, and Jamie move off of Jonathan Williams. I know that because of HQ. And Heath, how about you? And Ben, how about you? Did you avoid Jonathan Williams in your waiver claims last night? I wouldn't say I avoided him, but I was pretty clear who my top priority was. I went after Scarborough first because I don't necessarily know that he has a huge impact on your team the rest of the season, but I think he can be a weak winner with a matchup against Washington
Starting point is 00:03:07 and a clear grip on the starting role. I did pick up Williams in a league or two and Wilkins in a league or two where they didn't really go for hardly anything just to kind of see. But I do think there's a possibility if we see either Jonathan Williams or Jordan Wilkins get 15 touches on Thursday night that we are feeling pretty good about starting them until Matt gets back. Okay, cool. Let me ask you a trivia question. More on the Colts running backs later.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Trivia question to start the show. In a six-point-per-passing touchdown, full PPR league, non-decimal scoring, sorry, who is the number one player in fantasy right now who has scored the most points full point PPR six point per passing touchdown Heath Heath I would say Lamar Jackson okay Ben do you have a guess
Starting point is 00:03:59 it can't be because of the question he made it sound like it was Michael Thomas but I don't think it's Michael Thomas. I'm going to say it's Dak Prescott. It is. Oh, man, where's my music? It is. Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Why did I ask the question? Because Christian McCaffrey is number two. Four points behind Lamar Jackson. Got it. The six points per touchdown works against Jackson in terms of quarterback production, but it puts him ahead of McCaffrey. That makes sense. Just a little bit. Got it. The six points per touchdown works against Jackson in terms of quarterback production, but it puts him ahead of McCaffrey. That makes sense. Just a little bit. All right. So fun trivia question. Hope everybody enjoyed it. It was thrilling. It was exhilarating. Jordan Wilkins was limited. T.Y. Hilton mispracticed. There is some thought that he
Starting point is 00:04:36 might play. Eric Ebron mispracticed. So Heath, what do you think about Jack Doyle and Eric Ebron at Houston tomorrow? It's going to depend on whether T.Y. Hilton's playing and I guess whether both Eric Ebron and Jack Doyle are playing. But assuming both tight ends are playing and Hilton's not, I would view them both as low-end streaming options. I tweeted about this a little bit last night and wrote about it in the tight end preview. We've got nine tight ends this season that are averaging double digits in fantasy points on a per game basis doyle and ebron are not two of those nine but of those nine two are on a buy two are definitely out two are currently questionable there are only three tight ends averaging double digit fantasy points that we are certain are going to play this week and help your team almost Almost everyone needs a streamer, which means almost everyone can be a streamer,
Starting point is 00:05:25 but they're not towards the top of my priority list. Okay. So, would you play Ross Dwelly against the Packers over the Colts guys? I would. I mean, it totally depends if Kittle's out, right? We don't know for sure. We don't know that. I'd play the Colts guys.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. If Ebron's out and Hilton's out, right? We don't know for sure. We don't know that. I'd play the Colts, guys. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. If Ebron's out and Hilton's out, I'd be pretty interested in Jack Doyle. Oh, for sure. The thing with the Colts, this is the most game script dependent team in the entire league. I mean, Eric Ebron's routes per drop back jumped to 80% against the Dolphins when they were chasing a little bit. They had a lot of red zone plays. That's where they like to use him. Everyone has their role in this offense, and usage can spike based on how the game plays so those tight ends will be
Starting point is 00:06:08 usable if houston leads this game at home and and maybe we should probably expect that i kind of do so yeah i think they're reasonable streamers in this matchup yeah and jacoby brissett he has five games this year with less than 30 pass attempts in those those five games, he has scored 19, 21, 10, 9, and 16 points. Not so good. He has three games with 37 or more pass attempts, and he scored 24, 27, and 35 fantasy points. Those 35 were
Starting point is 00:06:36 against Houston. That's a huge disparity. You don't see a lot of QBs. I think the key is, how do you think this game is going to go? This is one of those games, and there's several of them on the schedule this week, where I think Houston's a team that's kind of an at-home, back-against-the-wall type of situation. I expect them to lead this game at some point.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I expect to be very competitive. I think Percet will have to throw a little more. All right, Will Fuller's also a game-time decision. Go ahead, Ben. Just to tack on to that, one more player that I would add. You guys were talking about the Colts kind of early down backs. I think Naheem Hines is going to end up being the best Colts running back in this game. If he's available in some shallower leagues, he's the guy that I would prefer.
Starting point is 00:07:12 If all three of them play, I will have Hines ranked the highest in PPR. I would agree with that. Texans give up the most receptions to running back. They do, but it's weird. It's like Hines has not had any good games this year. Very, very few. He's been so uninvolved. But last year when Mack didn't play or when he maybe played like a little bit and got hurt,
Starting point is 00:07:33 Hines got a pretty big workload and including a lot of work in the passing game. So we will get into that later. It's pretty interesting. But I think the fact that Wilkins practice and the fact that the Texas run defense has been so good last week, notwithstanding has sort of cooled us off the, at least the running back, like the non pass catching running back.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So Williams and Wilkins in that game. Okay. Gronkowski, Rob Gronkowski did not rule out a return next season. Ben, would you want to stash Gronkowski in a dynasty league? It would have to be a really deep one, but I can see it in a deeper one. Tight end premium.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Depends on the format. Gronk announced his beach bash in South Florida for the Super Bowl. That's the headline of this story, and I really think we need to start working on ways that I can be doing a live hit for the podcast from the beach bash. I agree. I think that'd be awesome. I'm into it. Cleveland safety Morgan Burnett's out for the season with an Achilles injury.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Juju Smith-Schuster's concussion seems to be more of an issue than his knee injury. The Patriots activated left tackle Isaiah Wynn. Sean McVay expects Brandon Cooks and Evan Ingram has a chance to play this week. So let's talk about these two guys real quick. McVay expecting Cooks to play. Cooks is only 78% owned.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And Evan Ingram could play this week. Maybe it's next week. And next week would be against the Packers, which is a great matchup. Ben, are either Cooks or Ingram, this might sound like a crazy question, but based on their production, it really isn't. Are either of them must-own players, Brandon Cooks and Evan Ingram? Yeah, no, I think they both are must own, especially Ingram at the tight. I mean, he just pointed out how few difference makers we have at tight end.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So just the fact that we know Ingram has that massive target upside and can be a top tight end, he has to be. He has to be owned, in my opinion. Cooks, I can see being a little off of him because if he does have any more head injury issues, any any more concussions he's probably going to be just shut down for the year uh but i do expect i would consider him must own too because i do expect once he's back and he's expected to be back this week he's playing a full snap share it's not like it's a lingering like hamstring where he might be limited uh once he's good to go he should be
Starting point is 00:09:42 playing yeah and i think he'll be right i'll probably slot him into that range of like the will fuller terry mcclurin mike williams where like wouldn't be that surprising if one play makes his day but the big problem for brandon cooks this season has been that the rams haven't been able to protect jared golf long enough for cooks to get open deep and i don't know that's going to change against baltimore this week all right they do have arizona though in week 13 which would be better but when you put him in that group with mike williams and terry mclaurin and and uh will fuller those guys are not necessarily players i need to drop but if i have to if i want to pick up bo scarborough if i need a streaming quarterback this week or something like that,
Starting point is 00:10:25 those are the types of players that I drop. So it sounds like Cooks is in that, you know, you can drop him. He hasn't been very good this year. I think he should be between 80% and 90% owned. Okay. He's not quite there yet. He's at 78%. Yeah, I think it's got to be a really shallow league.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Like, one of our leagues, our auction league i have my homes and kelsey on buys and i don't know who to drop and i have cooks and i don't i don't want to drop cooks at all but my team's really deep i'm gonna end up having to drop at least one i might i might just take the zero at tight end this week i don't like we only have five bench spots in that league and some of those yeah some of those types of leagues you have to make tough decisions and and cooks might end up being the guy to cut the other guy i'm considering is david. I mean, we don't know what's going to happen with him going forward. I would drop Johnson before I drop Cooks. How about Ronald Jones or T.Y. Hilton?
Starting point is 00:11:13 Those are my other two bench players. I think Johnson would be the first one I would drop. There's no way I'm dropping T.Y. Hilton. Johnson's the first one? Yeah. I might do that. We'll see. You'll be ready to pick him up
Starting point is 00:11:27 once I cut him. By the way, a couple special guests coming on today. First of all, we haven't regulated on the Wednesday show in a little while,
Starting point is 00:11:35 so we're going to do some regulation. I'm seeing some really disappointing things in leagues right now. Players not, or fantasy managers not setting a lineup,
Starting point is 00:11:45 not making their transactions, starting guys who are injured, starting players who are on a buy. I don't like it. Get your stuff together. I don't care if you're eliminated. You need to do this for the integrity of the league. If you don't want to make ad drops, that's fine. I get it.
Starting point is 00:11:57 But at least set a valid lineup. At least don't play people who are out or on buy. Come on now. And I just have a lot of questions that come up this time of year that need some regulating also we're hoping to have ben schrager we have a new nickname for ben which will reveal a little bit later uh he should be coming on later on in the show our facebook giveaway this week is your toughest start sit decisions and a lot of people have questions about the colts running backs and jaylen samuels and what to expect from these guys
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Starting point is 00:13:17 34% own zero to 10 on the league window meter. Cool. Yeah. I mean, he's a pretty clear trap back to me he i agree with heath that he was the top waiver option this week but he's the guy to explain trap back we've talked about it a lot this year it's just an early down back it looks like the le garrett blunt roll from last year in the same lions offense he didn't play he didn't run a lot of routes he didn't i think he maybe got one
Starting point is 00:13:42 target he didn't have any catches he's's going to carry the ball. His upside is basically going to be very similar to what he put up last week, which was 14, 55 and one on the ground. He's not going to be involved in the past game and they are going to rotate those other backs in in the past game, which which limits him from being maybe like a 25 carry guy usually. So, yeah, to me, he's not really a league winner he's a he's a fill-in rb2 i think that he is a uh two is good for that for the season i would maybe put him as an eight on a week winner because if you're ever going to want to have a trap back it would be in a game where you're playing against washington when you have a head coach like matt patricia that would really really love to just run the ball 35 times i think he's got a chance to get 20 carries in this guy. I'm not projecting him for it, obviously, but I do think there's a chance he gets 20 plus carries and he gets Washington. That might mean 100 yards in a score or two. Yeah, Bo Scarborough is who we're talking about here for the Lions. The Redskins, they see the most rush attempts by running backs in the
Starting point is 00:14:41 NFL. So the second most rush attempts total, but the most by running backs, and they could be without the Ron Payne defensive tackle. So that could hurt their run defense as well. So a two for Bo Scarborough, but for week 12, it's going to be a lot higher than that. By the way, Ben, what does trap stand for again? Trivial rush attempt percentage. Okay. That's the real acronym, Trivial Rush Attempt Percentage. Heath, my new acronym for trapback is Tote the Rock, Avoid Passes.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Which one do you like better? I'm yours, actually. Tote the Rock, Avoid Passes, trapback. Sure. League win-o-meter for Debo Samuel, who's 75% owned and has two straight 100-yard games, and he faces Green Bay this week. Debo Samuel, 0-10. I'll give him a 5.5.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's going to be hard for him once Kittle and Emmanuel Sanders are both back in action, but I do think he's done enough to where he could be a solid number three wide receiver for the rest of the year. He has some very good matchups. It wouldn't be all that surprising if he's facing, maybe not okay matchups, but it wouldn't be all that surprising if he's facing the Falcons in week 15 and puts up six for 100 and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So he's got a possibility to win your league. Okay. All right. Yeah, I'll say four. All right. That's Tebow. That works. Let's go to the next one. It's the most added wide receiver in CBS Sports League. Darius Slayton. Coming off a bye, he's now 40% owned.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I think he's pretty low on the... Well, the matchups are so good in the fantasy playoffs. Philadelphia, Miami, and Washington. But there's a chance that Shepard and Ingram are playing in those games. So, I don't know. I'll let you go with Darius Slayton. Ben, why don't you go first? Oh, I'm going to go three. I like Slayton. I like his vertical profile, the air yards. He gets a lot of passes down the field, which gives him the boom potential that we have seen a couple of times this year. But I still think this offense is going
Starting point is 00:16:43 to the targets are gonna mostly go to golden tate they're also going to go to saquon barkley we just talked about how evan ingram could be back and we should probably expect sterling shepherd back at some point although that's pretty unclear but there are scenarios where slayton is not even really rosterable in a couple of weeks if all those guys are backing on the field if sterling shepherd doesn't come back he's a four if sterling shepherd does come, he's a four. If Sterling Shepard does come back, he's a one. By the way, Heath, Sterling Shepard is 51% owned, and I saw him in a lot of my leagues last night,
Starting point is 00:17:11 and I didn't really prioritize him. I wanted Nelson Aguilar. I wanted James Washington ahead of him. But Shepard was like a low-end waiver claim. I may have gotten him in a few leagues. I haven't checked yet. But what do you think about Shepard at 51%? I'm kind of worried that he's going to be the number four option in the pass offense when he first comes back. And you've got the risk of re-injury that would
Starting point is 00:17:31 probably end his season. I think Golden Tate has probably done enough to establish rapport with Daniel Jones. You've got Evan Ingram, who's going to be back probably before Shepard. You've got Saquon Barkley, who's still there. I don't love it. All right, next up on the win, what is it? League win-o-meter? League win-o-meter, sure. Jamison Crowder, 82% owned, three straight games with 76 or more yards and a touchdown. Jamison Crowder, league win-o-meter, 0-10. And PPR is probably like a 7.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Totally depends on format for me. Yeah, I'll give him a six in PPR. I mean, if the schedule is really good for the next two weeks, he's like a regular season league winner. He can get you the one seed. I'm not sure you're going to like him quite as much in the fantasy playoffs. Fantasy playoffs are Miami, which is good, but then at Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So the next three matchups for Crowder are Oakland, Cincinnati, and Miami. Then it gets tougher. Damian Williams. Damian Williams didn't see much. You skipped Devontae Parker. I'm trying to save time. Devontae Parker, zero to 10. Seven. Seven. Best one on the list. All right. He's had 10 targets in each game without Preston Williams. He's had eight or more targets in four of his last five games. He's got great matchups. I'm excited. We're excited. Devontae Parker, thank you, Heath,
Starting point is 00:18:48 for keeping me honest. Damian Williams, Ben, 0-10 on the league winnometer. I mean, it's fully dependent on health. If that rib injury, I don't know, have we heard much about that? I haven't heard much about it. If that rib injury isn't very serious,
Starting point is 00:19:01 I think it's high. I mean, I think they came out and they started him again. Even after he didn't practice this week, I think it's high. I mean, I, I think they came out and they started him again, even after he didn't practice this week. I think the last few weeks we've seen a lot of indications. They want him to be their lead back. And if he's fine after their buy, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:12 he's like an eight or a nine for me. Uh, but if he's still banged up and that means that we see more of the Sean McCoy, more Daryl Williams, that's, you know, that's going to limit his ability to be a league winner.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Obviously. Um, I think he might be the fourth, the fourth best back on the chiefs. I'm going to limit his ability to be a league winner, obviously. I think he might be the fourth best back on the Chiefs. I'm going to give him a one. They face the Patriots, the Broncos, and the Bears in the fantasy playoffs. They're not very good at running the football anyway. And I just think that LeSean McCoy and Darrell Williams are better. Man, I'm not sure it matters what you think.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Because it doesn't feel like Andy Reid feels that way, you know? Well, but remember, after Williams got hurt and got a little dinged up, he kind of got that same almost like fumble punishment for, okay, I guess we have to go to the running back by committee now because Damian Williams can't stay healthy. So I don't. And Sean McCoy, before Williams got hurt, was involved and scored a touchdown in that game. He was back.
Starting point is 00:20:11 The whole we're just resting him for a week thing looked true. I'm pretty sure the touchdown came after the injury. I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure for McCoy, his playing time ticked up after Williams went out. Definitely ticked up after, but he played some before. I just love when he goes, he's the fourth best back on the team. We haven't even seen Darwin Thompson. I mean, that's just hilarious.
Starting point is 00:20:30 He's a career backup. Had a good six-game stretch. Okay, guys. Last guy on the Win Your League-O-Meter. Is that what it's called? I keep forgetting. League Win-O-Meter. Atlanta kicker Yungi Ku, who is
Starting point is 00:20:45 the second most added player in our leagues, and he has seven of eight field goals in his last two games. Young-Wei Ku. Negative one. All right. You should pick him up for this week. The Bucs give up the most fantasy points to kickers, and now
Starting point is 00:21:01 I have talked about a kicker. We have a guy in one of our leagues by the way one of our you know industry analyst leagues who hates kickers so much and was determined to prove that he could win the league without starting a kicker so everybody in the league starts a kicker except for him and he claims that he's won a league like this before apparently and he's three and eight he did just beat me unfortunately but uh he's won a league like this before, apparently, and he's 3-8. He did just beat me, unfortunately, but he's 3-8. So kickers do matter,
Starting point is 00:21:31 especially when everyone else is starting a kicker. You don't have to start a kicker in FanDuel, which is one of the reasons why Heath loves FanDuel so much. But Heath plays over 100 lineups every week. I play, you know, like five. But that's enough. You know what? To each his own, to each her own, whatever you want to do on FanDuel,
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Starting point is 00:22:46 I was going to do a trust-o-meter, but that felt excessive. Tom Brady. So I just want to start it by sort of reviewing what I was talking about on Monday's show in case you missed it. His matchups are great going forward. Entering Monday night,
Starting point is 00:23:02 he was fifth in the NFL in pass attempts, and he was behind cam newton eli manning andy dalton and one other guy jamis winston so he's throwing a ton and that's a good setup but you know what i hadn't really accounted for was he doesn't do that well in december i looked at his passing yards per game in December each of the last five years, and the highest in the five years, the most was about 269, 270 yards per game, which is about a 4,300-yard pace,
Starting point is 00:23:37 which is still kind of low. So that's the best he's done in the last five years. So we keep that in mind, and I ask you, how much do you trust Tom Brady going forward, Heath? This answer could change a lot in the next four or five days. But for now, I have not seen enough bad Brady to discount the volume and the fact that they really are not very good at running the football. And I do think getting Isaiah Wynn back should help the pass protection,
Starting point is 00:24:02 which should help Brady maybe to go downfield just a little bit more accurately. So for now, I'd put him at about a six and a half or a seven. I'm ranking him as a top 12 quarterback and I'm starting this week. But if he has another bad game at home against the Cowboys, I'm probably out. All right. But then it's at Houston and then Kansas City in the next two games. But OK, Ben, how much do you trust Brady? I mean, pretty much what he said. I'll just say if you're i'd be a little lower on him i think but i i would say if you're optimistic about brady
Starting point is 00:24:33 you should probably be optimistic about nikhil harry as well especially with dorsett out and sanu's role really backed off in in in this past game the game before their bye he played 100 of snaps this last week he only ran around on 55% of dropbacks. They're treating him more like the number three that he's been throughout his career. I think there's a really good potential opportunity for Nikhil Harry if this offense does get going. No one was good against the Eagles. Who do you trust more rest of season? Jimmy Garoppolo, who has had three big games this year, twice against Arizona and once against Cincinnati, but he's obviously been better with Emmanuel Sanders. Or Kyler Murray, who has had three big games this year, twice against Arizona and once against Cincinnati, but he's obviously been better with Emmanuel Sanders,
Starting point is 00:25:06 or Kyler Murray, who has scored 25 or more fantasy points in five of his last seven games. It's not, it's, you know, I understand you might want Garoppolo more because Murray's got a bye, but who do you trust more, you know, in terms of putting him in your lineup, Garoppolo or Murray? This is the easiest question that I've ever been asked. I mean, it has to be Murray. Murray's rushing ability creates a higher floor. It creates a higher ceiling. Jimmy Garoppolo loves to throw the ball to the players wearing the different jersey
Starting point is 00:25:37 than he's wearing. And even though there have been about seven dropped interceptions in the last two games, so his interception numbers don't look as bad as they should he's you don't trust him the way that the Niners still want to run I mean that's the other side of it it's Kyler Murray and it's not close yeah I the only reason it might be close for me is because I don't think I have that high of expectations for Kyler Murray coming off the just because his schedule is absolutely brutal I would still prefer him to Jimmy Garoppolo. I'd probably put Kyler Murray at like a four on the trust-o-meter and Jimmy Garoppolo at a two and a half maybe for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I like Garoppolo okay this week, but you look at Murray after the bye, he's got the Rams who are just playing phenomenal defensive football. He's got the Steelers after that. I don't feel great about him. All right, how much do you trust Aaron Jones, who has had 9 and 13 touches in his last two games since
Starting point is 00:26:29 Devontae Adams returned? Seven. We're not on a meter right now. Yeah, we are. What are your expectations? Are we saying trust him to be what he's been? No. You put him in your lineup, you trust him.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Right, yeah, I agree with Heath. I mean, seven. He's going to be an RB2 or maybe a low-end RB1, but he's not going to be a star. Like, I think he could become a bit of a trap back. Yeah. Luckily for him, after the Niners, he gets the Giants, Redskins, and Bears.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Those are three favorable matchups for Aaron Jones. How much do you... Look, it wouldn't be a show, it wouldn't be a Wednesday show with Heath and Ben and Adam if I didn't ask you about Derrick Henry. How much do you trust Derrick Henry? We know the schedule gets pretty tough pretty soon. How much do you trust Derrick Henry
Starting point is 00:27:15 going forward? He's Superman. He's a touchdown-reliant awesome player. Eleventy. i trust him entirely oh but did you wait a second hold on a second did you just intentionally make a new acronym for trap back touchdown reliant awesome player okay because if you did it that was gonna be pretty incredible we now have three actors that's good good. I was under the impression that with Derek Henry on a buy last week, I would have one show off from admitting that Derek Henry is just absolutely destroying my entire analytical process.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So I'm just going to avoid this question altogether. Good answer. I mean, you pretty much have to start him. But I will ask, do you think you should trade him? If it's not too late to make a trade, do you think you should sell Derrick Henry? He's been a top 10 running back in all formats this season, I think, on a per game basis. If you could get a top 10 running back for him, yes. But I don't feel confident that Aaron Jones is going to be better than Derrick Henry for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So that kind of tells you what range I'd put him in. All right. I would just add,ry has still had just a ridiculous rate of touchdowns on those high value touches we talk about and a low overall number of high value touches so for me in my actual leagues but he keeps proving me wrong but i would be trading him i would not be playing him in dfs um i think he's overperformed by quite a bit would you trade derrick henry for melvin gordon i would um that's a tough one but probably not how much do you trust austin eckler going forward 10 he is uh he's been a top 10 ppr running back since melvin gordon came back on a per game basis yeah he's been better
Starting point is 00:29:04 than melvin gordon since melvin gordon came back on a per-game basis. Yeah. He's been better than Melvin Gordon since Melvin Gordon came back on a per-game basis. Yeah. He also had three straight games with less than 30 receiving yards before last week. Started. But I loved in that game in Mexico City that they threw to him, not because they were trailing late.
Starting point is 00:29:19 They threw to him early at a 37-yard reception on the first drive. He had six of his eight catches in the first half of that game. So that was really good news. I mean, they've been obviously featuring Gordon and running the ball more, but it was really positive to see they came out and used him again in the passing game early in that game. I don't reject the premise that you start Austin Eckler. I reject that he's a 10 on the trust-o-meter. I think that's too high.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like, you're basically saying you'd rather have Austin Eckler than Aaron Jones. Is that true? I think I'm probably, on a weekly basis, going to prefer Austin Eckler and PPR to Aaron Jones. I guess that's fair.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I mean, Aaron Jones has one catch in his last two games, so that's fair. I think it'd be, yeah, really close. I agree with Heath. You you got to be optimistic i'd probably be more like a seven or eight i also agree with you adam that 10 is probably too high it's only a 10 in bpr it's a seven and one uh two more here do you trust any bills
Starting point is 00:30:16 going forward denver dallas baltimore pittsburgh new england in their next five games you trust any bills john brown heath he loves john brown are you like what do you mean do i trust john brown of course i trust john brown got tough he's amazing extremely tough matchups are we gonna sit deandre hoppins because he's playing the broncos are we really are we really going there wow i'm starting john brown i'm starting devin Singletary. I still think Singletary. I think Singletary's been a little unlucky. It's funny. At the beginning of the year, he wasn't getting any volume.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I didn't really like him very much. But he kept having one or two long runs or scoring a touchdown, so he had some fantasy production. I think he's going to probably perform better against these tough matchups than he just did against the Browns and the Dolphins. Oh, okay. And do we trust Stefan Diggs? On a 16-game pace, what he did with Adam Thielen was only 91 targets.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But it was 61 catches, 1,100 yards, and a pace for 11 touchdowns. He had a three-touchdown game. But we know what the deal was with Diggs. When Thielen was healthy, he was very, very inconsistent. Very, very frustrating. Not just inconsistent, but outright terrible sometimes. So how much do you trust Diggs assuming Thielen's back after the bye?
Starting point is 00:31:36 10. 11-D. I mean, I'm pretty sure Diggs is still leading the NFL in yards per target, and I'm pretty sure it's not particularly close. He was a couple of weeks ago. Stephon Diggs is still leading the NFL in yards per target, and I'm pretty sure it's not particularly close. He was a couple of weeks ago. Stephon Diggs is an absolutely elite receiver, and you actually have it wrong, or I would argue you have it wrong. It's not Adam Thielen. It's Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 00:31:53 He plays very conservatively at times. We saw that in the first half last week. Diggs had zero catches. He had one. It was like 34 yards called back. In the second half, monster second half, as Cousins opened up and threw the ball down the field. he's gonna be up and down but you're talking about an absolutely elite receiver that is doing amazing things when he gets the targets and yeah you're gonna have to deal with cousins being a little bit more conservative at times taking the shorter passes
Starting point is 00:32:16 anytime cousins has aired it out and he's missed digs on some plays where digs was open downfield but that connection has been there more often than not the last couple of months after the slow start to the season. I think Diggs is, you just deal with the fact that he's a little boomer boss because this is a run offense. Huge ceiling, though. And you have to love the talent.
Starting point is 00:32:34 That's why I was high-end so heavily. Yeah, sure. I mostly agree. I don't go quite as far with the talent thing because we don't get any points for talent. But I do, it's just Diggs has been kind of, I guess, like what Brandon Cooks was in years past. He's got four or five games this year
Starting point is 00:32:52 with single-digit fantasy points in PPR, and he's got four games with more than 20 points in PPR. Yeah, but break it down with and without Adam Thielen. I mean, that's got to be a factor here. Well, no. Two of his last three games were without Thielen, and he scored a combined six points. Two horrible games. Yeah, it's true. But he's had
Starting point is 00:33:11 three or four massive games without Thielen. And when I say without Thielen, I am including two games in which Thielen played and got hurt early. So almost all of his big games have been without Adam Thielen. Just one against Philadelphia was with Thielen. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. I wouldn't put him at 11-D. But I would say he's – I don't think the schedule is particularly difficult. I'd say 7. So all of last year, Thielen was active all of last year. Diggs was a top – what was he, top 15 receiver? No, I think he was top 12. He had over 100 catches.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah. But he was very inconsistent he had half his games or something with less than 50 yards or 50 or fewer yards or something like that's just that's what he is but don't you want that don't you want that weak winning upside in the playoffs like that's the kind of guy that that's i guess philosophically why i i am so high on him because he's a guy that can absolutely win you a playoff matchup against one of the other very good fantasy teams in your league now because you're in the playoffs you're only playing good teams say that sentence again and replace the word win with lose because no i don't think that's kind of like true you know i disagree i the the difference
Starting point is 00:34:16 between like five points and 15 points in your fantasy lineup doesn't lose you a week the difference between 15 and 30 wins you weeks hey listen, listen, Ben. I just had three contests in week 11. Three of them decided by one point. One point. Mike Williams making that catch on the final drive. One beat two leagues. So the difference between 10 fantasy points could absolutely win or lose you a week. Come on, Ben.
Starting point is 00:34:43 No, it can. I actually thought about Ben this morning in this exact type of conversation as I was getting ready for the podcast and I was thinking about my teams and I have a lot of teams that are sitting somewhere between seven and four and five and six. And I don't feel perfectly comfortable with whether they're going to be in the playoffs, but they also might be easily in the playoffs. I've got some first place teams and I had a couple of teams that are out of it as well, but a lot of teams right in that middling range. And I feel like with Ben's strategy,
Starting point is 00:35:12 all of his teams are either in first or second, or they're not going to make the playoffs. That's the thing. They're not, they're all in that same range. I mean, I have a couple of teams that are at the top. I only have a couple that are eliminated, and then I have a ton in that range. I'm actually really looking forward to the playoffs where I can sort through which teams I can start ignoring because they're all right on the verge, it feels like. Yeah, no. This next two weeks are going to – it sounds like for all three of us, it's just going to be huge to determine if we had good years or not because right now it's swinging. I'm in the four to eight range in a lot of my leagues right now. All right. But I know the best of the best when it comes to ticketing apps, and that is SeatGeek.
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Starting point is 00:37:07 Well, we got a lot to get to here. How about a couple of questions from Apple Podcasts? Sean in a city west of East Lansing, Michigan. West Lansing, Michigan. Yeah, obviously. Kelsey is on a bye and I have Jason Witten against the Patriots. Should I roll with Witten
Starting point is 00:37:23 or pick up Ryan Griffin, Ben Watson, or Tyler Eifert? I'd go with Ryan Griffin. Oh, yeah. Slam dunk. Wide receiver three options for Sean in West Lansing, Michigan. Amendola, Randall Cobb, or Taylor Gabriel? Cobb.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Cobb. Gabriel. You're going to go with Cobb? I like Taylor Gabriel a lot. I don't know that that target share that we saw last week is going to repeat itself. It's a situation where Gabriel did it for one week. Cobb's done it for two weeks. I'm going with Cobb. It's just the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Gabriel got that largely because Allen Robinson was matched up with Jalen Ramsey. I expect Allen Robinson to be the number one target most weeks, but both Gabriel and Miller saw a big boost last week because of that. Cobb's in an offense that has targeted receivers down the field heavily all season, especially the last couple weeks. So you feel a lot more comfortable about his entire offense. He doesn't really have to beat out Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup for touches. There's just so much in the offense that he can still be very productive.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Also, Amari Cooper does have a knee injury, but I just think for me, Cobb versus Gabriel, easily Cobb rest of season. I'm very concerned about this matchup against the best team against wide receivers in New England, whereas Gabriel gets the Giants, who are obviously terrible. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:42 We'll say Randall Cobb because it's two against one. Here's Robert. Pick two. Half PPR. ben scarborough james washington will fuller jamal williams half ppr pick two scarborough washington fuller and jamal williams running backs yeah if fuller plays i'd play him over jamal but i think we're probably gonna to not have Fuller. I don't know. Heath, are you assuming Fuller plays? I'm not currently assuming Fuller plays. I don't. They called him a game-time decision on Monday.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I don't really... I'd like for there to be a possibility on Monday that he might just be cleared by Thursday. Yeah. Let me ask you this. I'll show the hamstring. James Washington, I'm pretty excited about if Juju and Johnson are both out. And he's actually been pretty solid for three straight games.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And, you know, he's got a good matchup, too, against the Bengals. That's who they're playing, right? No. I just don't know as conservative as they've been. That is the matchup. As conservative as they have been with Mason Rudolph under center, now that they're playing a team that they literally might just be able to run the ball on every play and win by two scores, I don't know how many times they're going to pass.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Why were you so high on Derek Carr? That's a conservative offense. You had him as your number four quarterback last year. I don't think that's a conservative offense. He barely throws the ball. I don't think it's as conservative as the Steelers with Mason Rudolph. It's not, but this is their only wide receiver. I mean, you were high on Tyrell Williams, who had a good game,
Starting point is 00:40:10 88 yards or something and a touchdown. I don't know. I'm surprised. Tyrell Williams is better than James Washington, a lot better. He is. And Derek Carr is a lot better than Mason Rudolph. Those are great points. All right, then.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Let's talk about two other quarterbacks who are better than Mason Rudolph. Indianapolis is at Houston here. So a couple of stats of the game. The first one I already gave. It was about Jacoby Brissett, and when he throws the ball, he's good, and when he doesn't throw the ball that much, he's not that good in terms of fantasy production. But you should know that the Texans see the fourth most pass attempts
Starting point is 00:40:39 in the game in the NFL, and they allow the seventh most fantasy points to quarterbacks. So that's a good setup for Jacoby Brissett. The other stat of the game is about Carlos Hyde, really, but I guess it's about all the Texans. The Colts' defense, man, they are rolling. In their last eight games, they have not allowed more than 10 fantasy points in non-PPR
Starting point is 00:41:01 or 12 fantasy points in PPR to any running back with one exception, Jalen Samuels, who had 13 catches. But they've just been a brutal matchup. And where should we start? Let's start first with the Colts, the road team. So Brissette, where is he for you, Heath? 73% or less? I've got him 11th, a low-end number one starter, and would have been, I believe, my favorite streamer if he was owned in like 3% fewer leagues. But he was just a little bit over that range. So he's someone that if he was available on the waiver wire,
Starting point is 00:41:39 I would start over guys like Aaron Rodgers against the 49ers. But there's not very many starters I would start him over. How about the Patriots-Cowboys game? Would you start him over Brady or Dak? I've got him right behind Dak, and Dak is just behind Brady. So if you were really nervous about that game, I could understand making that decision, but I would not. All right. His best game of the year was against the Texans, 35 fantasy points. And for me, I mean, a lot of it, I think for everyone, is probably going to come down to T.Y. Hilton.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Who's healthy? If T.Y. Hilton's out and Ebron's out and Paris Campbell's out, if he has no weapons, I don't know how good you're going to feel. But you know what? I think, unfortunately, we're going to have to talk again about this game tomorrow because there's just so many injury questions. Ben, if we look at the running backs, why is it that you're going, that Naheem Hines is your favorite in this game?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Is that in only PPR, or is that in any format? Yeah, really only in PPR would I want to start him, but I think, yeah, probably in any format. It's a really tough matchup. I expect, especially if Wilkins is active. If he's not, you can play Jonathan Williams, but I expect those two guys to split early down work. They'll get a couple targets probably, again I said at the top that this is a really game script dependent
Starting point is 00:42:49 team they utilize players based on how the game is going if they're leading they will run more and they will use their lead running back in the passing game more Marlon Mack has way more catches in games where he's actually where they're leading and he's actually playing more because they'll mix in some pass plays while he's out there. If they're trailing and they're throwing a lot in the second half, they'll just leave Naheem Hines on the field. That's where he's had some spike games and he's played a lot of snaps. I expect that they will trail a little bit in this game at Houston. And the stat you just gave about Jalen Samuels being the only running back who's been productive, that's a Naheem Hines stat, right? He was productive because of 13 catches. Hines has
Starting point is 00:43:24 six or seven catch upside in this game if they trail and they throw a lot and i also think that's what would make jacoby bursette a a good streamer is if they trail and they have to throw a lot yeah and if if hilton and ebron are out then it would benefit heinz but heath like are any of these guys actually starters this week no i have no running backs from this game ranked in my top 24 running backs in any format so no none of them are actually starters i do think like on the flip side duke johnson could also be in that same nine nine hinds role he had five targets and seven carries the last time these two teams played he his usage in the passing game does fluctuate a lot but this feels like the type of game where they could get him involved a
Starting point is 00:44:05 little more. He's been very good when he's touched the football. So if you have Jalen Samuels, we'd start Jalen Samuels over any of these guys. How about Bo Scarborough over any of these guys? Yeah. And non PPR for sure. Bo Scarborough over any of these guys and PPR.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I get really worried about a guy that didn't even see a target in his first game. And they have two guys that are better pass-catching backs than him. All right. Yeah, just that matchup's so good. How about—all right, let's go to the wide receivers then. So for all of the wide receivers, Hopkins is a must-start. If Hilton plays, are you starting him?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Because Hilton was averaging like six catches for 50 to 60 yards or something like that, scoring a lot of touchdowns but do you think he's an automatic start if he's if he plays ty hilton uh i don't think he's an auto i don't think he's an automatic start he crushes in houston and i know the the game uh the the team splits are not great because obviously there's different personnel over multiple seasons but he always seems to crush against Houston. It's kind of the same coaching staff with the Texans that has been there for the last several years. So I could definitely see using him, but he's not a must start. If he plays Heath, would you start T.Y. Hilton over a Rams,
Starting point is 00:45:17 any Rams wide receiver? Not over Cooper Cup, but over any other Rams wide receiver, yes. Would you start him over Marquise Brown? Yes. Would you start T.Y. Hilton or any running back in this game? Yes. Hilton over them, okay. How about Joe Mixon against Pittsburgh or T.Y. Hilton? I'd probably go Mixon and non-PPR and Hilton and PPR. I'd be really close.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I asked you earlier, Heath, about the tight ends, and you said, reiterate what you said, that we have a need for tight ends. I like Ebron if he plays. Doyle's a streamer. If Ebron's out, then I like Doyle. I don't really love Darren Fels. He's just got to fall into the end zone, and he does that quite frequently,
Starting point is 00:46:08 so maybe he will again, but Jordan Aikens out-targets him and out-catches him on a semi-regular basis. Okay, so would you start Ryan Griffin and Jacob Hollister over the tight ends in this game? Everyone's playing? Yeah. I would go Griffin, Ebr Hollister okay yeah Ebron had a huge game against the Texans as well Ben do you have any concerns about Deshaun Watson any reason to
Starting point is 00:46:34 think about sitting him none whatsoever okay what like what what are the concerns? Injury? No, I mean, he's had some less than great games, and the Colts have been really good against... Six straight quarterbacks had failed to score 20 fantasy points against the Colts before Foles last week, who scored 21, but that was on 47 pass attempts. And that's not even a great number, 21 fantasy points. So, you know, I'm not sure they're great against quarterbacks because you look at like the good ones that have faced them and almost all of the good ones actually all of the good ones have thrown for 300 yards but um they've
Starting point is 00:47:14 limited the touchdowns i guess it just it doesn't look like a great matchup the colts have been pretty good against quarterbacks that's all and i think when we have high expect yeah i think when we have high expectations for a guy like this that we think should be top three every single week, and he has a couple bad games, we can kind of get a little bit concerned. He's, to me, still put up huge numbers. I don't know exactly where he's at on the season, but to me, he's still an elite, must-start quarterback, no matter what the matchup is. He's been so good this entire season, even when he hasn't been very well protected.
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's just an amazing competitor who loves to run as well when they need him to. A couple bad games, I'm not going to overreact to at all. So, Heath, Carlos Hyde or a Colts running back? I would probably prefer Hyde in non-PPR to all the Colts running backs and Hines over Hyde and PPR. And you talked about you kind of like Duke Johnson, but you like Hines better than Duke, right? Yeah, I think I've got them in a very similar range, though. All right. And I just want to bring up the possibility. It's not a bad idea to own Jonathan Williams just in case they said, hey, look, we've given chances.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Not like great, not like feature 20 carry back, you know, chances to Jordan Wilkins, but we've given him some chances and he hasn't really done that well. So maybe they saw what they saw from Williams last week at over 100 yards. Maybe they turn him loose a little bit. Maybe he's the guy. And, you know, that could happen next week or next week. Not for this week. You don't play him.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Right. I think Wilkins is averaging like six yards per carry. He had one really long carry. And other than that, he barely he's barely run the ball. But like, I don't know. He's he's not special. So I think he also had like five yards to carry last year. Like he's actually been really efficient so far in his career.
Starting point is 00:49:03 He's OK. Statistically, it's true, but... Adam, why PC for life? You know what? I don't think you can really make a judgment on Wilkins' yards per carry because he just hasn't had that many carries. You can't, but you also can't say that he's been inefficient. I can't say that.
Starting point is 00:49:19 You're right. You're right. I won't say it ever again. Will Fuller, if he plays, what do you think? Boomer bust number three. Boomer bust number three. He's a Ben Gretsch superstar. He's got the upside to win you a week, and he can't lose you a week.
Starting point is 00:49:37 If you have other good options, I would consider sitting him because he does have a hamstring injury that could mean limited snaps when he comes back it could be re-injured that's a very serious issue for a speed receiver obviously but if he plays and you don't have a lot of other great options the secondary receivers in this offense have not been very good while he's been out kenny stills and kiki cutie both played a lot of snaps last week neither did very well uh deandre hopkins has taken on a lot more of the load i think they're waiting for and needing Fuller to come back, and I think he could right away have a big game if he's fully healthy.
Starting point is 00:50:10 All right. Sit the DSTs, and we're going to take a quick break here on Fantasy Football today. Still a lot more to come, including regulators and a bunch of your tweets and a lot more players to talk about, and we'll be right back. Metrolinx and CrossLinx are reminding everyone to be careful as Eglinton Crosstown LRT train testing is in progress. Please be alert as trains can pass at any time on the tracks. Remember to follow all traffic signals.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Be careful along our tracks and only make left turns where it's safe to do so. Be alert, be aware, and stay safe. Here we go, everybody. We're going to do some regulating, and we're going to answer a bunch of your tweets. Welcome to the show, Ben Schrager. We'll hear from him in a second. So, time for Fantasy Regulators
Starting point is 00:51:02 at FantasyFootballcbsi.com. All right. Sorry. I'm still finding the email in all of my notes. I found it. It's from John in Union City, California. Yesterday, someone who is an acquaintance of a fantasy football team owner informed me of a conversation about the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Apparently the conversation, which sounds like a conspiracy was concerning a member of our league who may request all team owners to place a quarterback first on the waiver wire. My only quarterback is on by this week. How will the league handle this issue? I will not name this whistleblower. So he's got a quarter. He needs a quarterback and someone else in the league handle this issue? I will not name this whistleblower. So he needs a quarterback, and someone else in the league told all the other owners
Starting point is 00:51:49 to put a quarterback first in their waiver claims. What do we do? Let's help John out. Ben Schrager, what do you say? What's up? Yeah, I don't think we do anything. If teams are all willing to pick up a quarterback with their first spot, great.
Starting point is 00:52:02 You're probably going to get Bo Scarborough as your first pick because no one's getting him. So I think just take advantage of it, and maybe you don't have a QB right now, but maybe your trade deadline hasn't passed and you can trade for one. Oh, my gosh. No.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I disagree. You're wrong. You kick him out of the league, Ben Schrager. What kind of a wimp are you? This is the definition of delusion. Schraggy B. By the way, that's your new nickname. Instead of Swaggy P, you are Shraggy B, according
Starting point is 00:52:32 to Andrew. He nicknamed you. How do you feel about that? It's not terrible. I was expecting a little bit worse from you, but I'll take it. I'll take it. All right, come on. Be meaner. This guy is getting his entire league to screw over this one owner. We're not doing our job if we don't, say, kick him out of the league, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I mean, it's clear collusion. This should not happen. I mean, you take this to its logical end point. There are just so many problems for fantasy leagues if this happens. Right. I totally agree. Okay, so Ben Schrager's wrong. Okay, next up
Starting point is 00:53:05 from Steven. Does it hurt the integrity of the league for teams to play a less than optimal lineup as the playoffs approach if they believe that potentially losing and getting a lower seed gives them a better opponent in the first round? So can you
Starting point is 00:53:21 play worse players to tank your week and get a better seed? Shraggy V? I'm cool with this. It's a selfish strategy and maybe it affects the rest of the league if you're playing someone who's also in playoff contention, but the whole point of fantasy
Starting point is 00:53:38 football is to win the championship and if you're going to get yourself a better seed, you may play the worst player. However, you may play the worst player and However, you may play the worst player and he's going to do better than who you would have played anyway. So it's not a strategy I would exactly recommend, but I don't think it's immoral. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I'm against it and I love that point, though, that what ends up happening whenever people do this and they think that they're going to get the better matchup and they try to pick their matchup because they end up getting a worse uh a higher points against against the matchup they thought was was easier it's just the way that it ends up working out typically so that's your karmic justice i i think it's uh it does hurt the integrity of the league i think everyone should play their best lineup but if there's nothing in the bylaws or anything i think whatever you can you know you can't really enforce
Starting point is 00:54:24 it as long as you have a legal lineup, it's okay. You know, you just can't like, well, obviously, you know, the roster restrictions,
Starting point is 00:54:30 you can't just like, I'm not going to start anybody this week. I'm going to bench my whole team. No, but as long as you have a legal lineup, I think it's okay to do that. We get that question a lot. So that's where we stand.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Last one. I'm in a full PPR league. This is from Mike. The last place team dropped Devante Adams when he obviously had way worse players on his roster. I called this move out to the commissioner and he isn't willing to do anything. I'm tied for first.
Starting point is 00:54:53 The guy with the first waiver claim is in a four-way tie for the last playoff spot. The second waiver spot is the guy I'm tied with in first place. And Adams would be an obvious upgrade for either team. What should the commissioner do with the last place team dropping Devontae Adams? Ben Gretch.
Starting point is 00:55:12 You put Adams back on his roster. Thank you. No question. No debate. I don't care if he wants to drop him. If he keeps dropping him, then you lock him out of his team. You put Adams back on his roster. You don't let Adams go on any other roster in the league. This is silly.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It's simple. I think not only do you do that, but you freeze his roster. You don't let him make any sort of add drops after doing something this crazy. There we go. There's the mean side from Ben Schrager that we needed to see. I need to ask one more kind of regulators here because we get this a lot. This comes up a lot, and we need to set the standards for our listeners. Okay. A lot of times people say, Hey, I noticed my opponent needed a kicker. So I picked up every
Starting point is 00:55:55 kicker and dropped every kicker. I picked up a kicker, drop, add, drop, add, drop, just to put them all on waivers to screw over my kicker or my opponent. You can't do that. What are the rules here regarding just adding and dropping players to put them back on waivers? It would have to be on a Friday or a Saturday. And making sure that player cannot go on your opponent's roster. Yeah, it's super dependent on the rules. Because some leagues, like, you can't... A guy won't clear waivers again if
Starting point is 00:56:25 he's been dropped so he's gone for the whole week and you know it's totally dependent on whether or not they're going to clear and and all that stuff i i think generally yeah this type of stuff is a little bit unfair but if the if it's not really like totally skirting the rules and it's maybe a situation where the guy had all week to pick up a kicker and didn't do it now it's saturday night and you're picking up a couple guys to to kind of mess with him because he hasn't taken care of something that he should have taken care of all week. I think that's fine as long as it's not like clearly skirting silly rules. The one for me is when a guy stays on waivers until the next week, right? And then you're doing this and then they can't add a kicker because they don't
Starting point is 00:57:05 even have like a day or two for clear waivers. They can't happen in that. Well, that's what I'm saying. So, you know, it's Friday and you realize that your opponent doesn't have a kicker. So the one thing that I'm 100% adamant about is this. You cannot use the same roster spot to put everybody back on waivers. So in other words, you add a kicker, drop the kicker, add the kicker, drop the kicker. Now, you know, over and over and over again and put everyone on waivers. So in other words, you add a kicker, drop the kicker, add the kicker, drop the kicker. Now, over and over and over again and put everyone on waivers, or you do it with tight ends or whatever. If on the other hand, you have five bench spots and you add five kickers or five tight ends and drop five of your players, I'm actually okay with that. But I mean, it's kind of a jerk move, but that's okay. But
Starting point is 00:57:45 what you can't do is keep using one roster spot to just add drop players and put those guys on waivers. So they're not available until the following week. That's where I come out on this shraggy B. Yeah. I mean, I think in an ideal world on Saturday, there should be free waivers where there's no sort of waiting period. So on Saturdays, you just can pick up anyone. And if you drop them, they don't have to sit out for be untouchable for a day or two. But I honestly think the way waivers are set up, if you don't pick someone up on Tuesday or Wednesday, you're a subject to this matter. You may get screwed by this.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And everyone knows waiver day is Tuesday or Wednesday. So I think you just got to be on top of your league. Otherwise, you might get screwed by this. And everyone knows waiver day is Tuesday or Wednesday. So I think you just got to be on top of your league. Otherwise, you might get screwed by this. Okay. All right. There we go. Good call. Ben Schrager, who, by the way,
Starting point is 00:58:33 is the commissioner of a league that has free open waivers on Tuesday, which is amazing to me. You're talking about the listener league? I hate that. I didn't know Schrager set that up, and I was complaining to him about it earlier in the year and he's like yeah that's why i was thinking this and i was like oh sorry my bad completely open waivers in that league i think it's very
Starting point is 00:58:52 interesting and it just keeps things a little different because every league is either waivers or fab get it open for the listener league and see what happens in the wild west what's happened in the wild west is every single week at 6 a.m. my time, 9 Eastern for you guys, on Tuesday there's a mad rush for ads and drops. This week I got both Bo Scarborough and Jonathan Williams. I was
Starting point is 00:59:15 up right and stealing signals, but every single week there's like 15 transactions in the first half an hour after it opens. That is wild because i still get the email notifications and i'm like what the hell why is nobody on waivers and i'm used to it now but it is it is a it is the wild west it's funny uh all right let's do some tweets here rapid fire guys this is from techie mom what do i do with david johnson i have aaron jones dalvin cook
Starting point is 00:59:40 kenyan drake ronald jones and kareem? I'd drop him for Bo Scarborough if you could, but ideally you're keeping him seeing if something happens over the next couple weeks. Yeah, there's still a lot of scenarios where he has value, but obviously right now it doesn't look great. It doesn't look like he's going to. See, Ronald Jones is a tough one for me. I really like Ronald Jonesald jones and i have
Starting point is 01:00:05 ronald jones in a league where we were talking about earlier where i might end up dropping david johnson but like johnson probably has more upside if he does work back into a heavy role in that offense um but yeah i mean i think you can cut him i do agree i think there's one thing that gives me a little more faith in ronald by the way. Just side note. They ran the ball eight times last week. He had four. Agumbo Wally had two. And Jameis had two.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So I know he only had four carries, but it was half their carries. And two of them were Winston and two were Agumbo Wally. So it wasn't like Peyton Barber got the carries. But Peyton Barber did get the goal line work and caught a touchdown and all that. It was annoying. All right, next up. Tony says, assuming James Conner sits,
Starting point is 01:00:50 is Jalen Samuels still the Pittsburgh back to start with Snell healthy? He's the pass catching back. He's the PPR play. I mean, I think he's a high-end running back, too, in PPR this week. Snell's had one good game, and he didn't even do anything against Miami after his good game against the Chargers. So I'm not too scared of Snell.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Okay. Yeah, I agree. He's the PPR option. He interestingly didn't lead in snaps and actually Trey Edmonds ran more routes than him after Connor went out or the last time they played together. But I still think Samuels is the guy that he has so much past catching chops
Starting point is 01:01:26 that is the guy that you play in PPR. Whether it's Snell or Trey Edmonds, I think an early down back is going to be heavily involved as well. So it's just kind of a tough situation. Alright, we are going to go rapid fire now. Only one of you answer each question. We'll go Ben, then Ben, then Ben, then Ben. Brandon, pick the
Starting point is 01:01:41 two best quarterbacks to take into the playoffs of these three four point per passing touchdown. Josh Allen with his bad schedule. Jameis Winston or Tom Brady. Ben pick two of those three. Allen Winston Brady. Which Ben?
Starting point is 01:01:54 I don't you know what? But let you guys decide. Winston and Brady. Ben Gretsch. Winston and Brady. All right. Ben Schrager. This is from Michael.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I just started rewatching Boy Meets World with my kids, and in the first scene of the first episode, I noticed one of Corey's best friends was squints from the sandlot. This is much more useful information than these dumpster fire waiver pickups. Adam, if you think I've seen Boy Meets World, you're crazy. You've never seen Boy Meets World? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I wasn't alive when that started. How old are you?
Starting point is 01:02:25 How old are you? How old are you? 22. 22? Who the hell is 22 these days? All right, Ben Schrager, I'll give you another one from Kyle. Half PPR, John Brown against Denver or Kareem Hunt against Miami? Schrager answered the first question, by the way.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You must have thought it was me, but you're just going Schrager, Schrager, Schrager. But I will take John Brown. All right, good. All right, this one will go to Ben Gretsch. This is from Pops. What should I do with Alan Robinson rest of season? You keep him and you start him. It's probably got to be plus matchups,
Starting point is 01:02:59 but I'm not worried about the Rams thing. We already talked about that earlier on the show. We got a lot of Jalen Ramsey. He's still their clear number one. From Alex, how do we feel about Aaron Rodgers and Carson Wentz rest of season? Rodgers is still very startable. Wentz is 16 points or less last five of six games.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I don't like Wentz, even though he has some good matchups coming up. I'll prefer Rodgers, but both are rosterable. From Bears Rule, who should I keep rest of season? Jalen Samuels, Darius Geis, or James White? I think James White. I mean, Darius Geis really, you know, obviously a really good rule who should i keep rest of season jaylen samuels darius geis or james white i think james white i mean darius geis uh really you know obviously a really good play in the in the passing game didn't play a ton of snaps so wendell small would play the most snaps he's probably
Starting point is 01:03:35 going to split early down work and they're going to use a receiving back is basically what we learned has the most upside to earn a you know this massive role but i just don't think we'll see it uh in a lost season and there's not a lot of upside in the offense anyway. So White's the best player overall, and the one I would just stick with for a safe floor. And two more questions, both Eagles questions. From Phil, is Miles Sanders going to break out this season? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:03:59 If Jordan Howard returns, he's definitely not going to. He has a great schedule, but Boston Scott, J.J. will become involved. He hasn't ran well the past two weeks against New England and Chicago. I don't think Miles Sanders is going to break out this year. From Brandon, is Alshon Jeffrey a drop, or should I hold him due to the juicy playoff schedule, Giants, Redskins, Cowboys? Totally dependent on the league.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You can drop him. All right. But I wouldn't want to. It would have to be shallowly. Thanks, Benz. Good stuff. You're welcome. It would have to be shallowly. Thanks, Benz. Good stuff. You're welcome. It's always fun.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yes. Ben Schrager is doing a great job, and he wants you to join our Facebook group and our social media accounts, and we'll do the Ask FFT this weekend. For Ben, for Ben, for Heath, I'm Adam, and we'll talk to you tomorrow. Starter sit for the AFC home games.

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