Fantasy Football Today - 11/22: Start or Sit (NFC); Beat the Waiver Wire; IND-HOU Recap (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 22, 2019Ugh, Jacoby Brissett and T.Y. Hilton! But hooray for Jonathan Williams, Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins! We recap the game to start the show ... Stats to know (10:00) for today's slate of NFC home gam...es. Why Jeff Driskel is set up for a big game, what Jordan Howard needs to be successful and more. Then we go through the news and notes (19:50), Beat the Waiver Wire (25:35) and "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" (28:00) for the games we're discussing later in the show ... SEA-PHI (33:40), GB-SF (45:45), DET-WAS (55:20), TB-ATL (59:00), CAR-NO (1:02:00), NYG-CHI (1:06:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Why, Jacoby Brissett, why?
Why can't you just stop handing off for five seconds and throw a stinking pass at T.Y. Hilton?
Catch the ball. What are you doing? Catch the ball.
Welcome to the show. Jamie, I guess this is what they call tilting right now.
Or just throwing a fit. I don't know.
For you, it's probably more like throwing a fit. Good morning.
Last night, it was a bit of a fit. Yeah, but you know what?
I'm okay with it because
this is the passion,
the excitement, the frustration, the thrill
of victory, the agony of defeat that fantasy
owners are going through right now here in
Week 12. We're going to talk about the game Houston
and Indianapolis, and we're going to talk about
Jameis Winston and whether or not
you can start him at Atlanta. Saquon
Barkley, can you start him against the Chicago Bears?
DJ Moore at New Orleans.
Tough matchups this week.
We'll see what's going on.
How you doing?
Did you really just say Saquon Barkley against the Bears?
Well, he's been pretty horrible.
He's rushed 13 times for one yard last time out.
I think it's at least worth asking.
You sitting him?
I'm not sitting him.
No, I'm trading him.
You know that.
I trade Saquon Barkley. That's what I do. I guess Jamie's at least worth asking. You sitting him? I'm not sitting him. No, I'm trading him. You know that. I trade Saquon Barkley.
That's what I do.
Okay.
I guess Jamie's doing well.
So let's get into the game.
Oh, by the way, no Dave today.
You know, no Dave.
We'll get him back on maybe HQ this afternoon,
but certainly on Sunday night.
Houston 20, Indianapolis 17.
Okay.
Well, that's kind of a fantasy dud except Hopkins.
And, well, Hopkins, Fuller, and Jonathan Williams.
Williams was started in 31% of leagues.
But I guess the game...
Sean Watson had a bad game?
22 fantasy points.
He's not going to be top five.
He was fine.
Yeah, he was fine.
But he's not going to be top five.
So it didn't exactly go as we expected
with Jonathan Williams getting 26 carries well
we got the report right before the game about an hour or two before the game that
it was going to be jonathan williams and look it's hard to it's hard to you know look i'll say
we would take the l you know i i mean because we probably thought it was going to be jordan well
i thought it was gonna be jordan wilkins know, just looking at how they were sort of approaching it.
It's these things happen.
It's it's thanks, you know, for the people that picked up Jonathan Williams and you were stuck to start forced to start him because of some tough situations.
It worked out great.
You know, if anybody started Jordan Wilkins based on his start percentage, it didn't seem to be the case.
And and now he minds was, you know, serviceable.
He didn't he didn't kill you, but
it seems as if Jonathan Williams is the guy
until Marlon Mack comes back, and we'll
find out. They have 10 days until their next game.
It's a big divisional game for them
next week, and so they probably feel like they can give
Marlon Mack some time to rest if his hand is
not ready to go. Jonathan Williams
looks like he has a chance to be a starter
until Mack is back.
Yeah. So did you mention what Joe Buck said about the timetable?
No, I didn't.
He said the speculation is that Marlon Mack could be out a month.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, it was either going to be he's going to try and rush back
or, you know, if the hand doesn't heal, it was going to be multiple weeks.
So Jonathan Williams should be, you know,
we'll see how the Titans run defense comes out of this week
against Leonard Fournette,
and you'll probably start Jonathan Williams in Week 13
against the Titans.
Yeah, 60% owned.
Jordan Wilkins only 17% owned.
But even if you saw the report, and I did see the report,
Jonathan Williams was going to start.
I still figured they'd get Wilkins in there,
which to me means maybe he just wasn't healthy at all.
He played on special teams.
He was definitely out there for that.
He was out there for special teams.
The report after the game was he was just going to
be used in an emergency situation.
It's hard to say that they're
going to change their game plan.
We've seen basically all
season long it's been a
running downs guy for the most part,
which has been Marlon Mack, a passing downs guy in 90 minds, and then a third guy getting a couple
touches in Jordan Wilkins. And so my guess is Jordan Wilkins will still be that third guy.
And Jonathan Williams just takes over for Mack. All right, let's talk about the rest of the game
here. Did you start Will Fuller in any of your leagues? I did four of them wow you know a lot of it is uh uh was not because i've
had the expectation of him doing that i mean that would have been great i thought he'd be a a good
number three receiver i had him ranked in my top 30 once we found out he was playing and so um
you know it was it was great to see you know it was a little uh nerve-wracking after uh his last
big catch where he you know pointed to his hamstring.
And it seemed as if, okay, maybe he pulled something after he got tackled.
But thankfully, he finished the game.
Again, he has extra time to get ready.
I don't know how many people are going to trust him next week against the Patriots.
But the fact that he's out there, you see what it does for this offense, what it does for Deshaun Watson.
And it opens some things up for DeAndre Hopkins as well.
So it's great to have him back on the field,
and if you've been holding out hope for a Kenny Stills or Kiki QT stretch of games
to help out, obviously that's not going to happen, so you can cut those guys.
It's interesting, though, about Hopkins, because he had five straight games
with double-digit targets going into this game,
and he only had nine in this one.
But it was a lower target number, probably a lower target shares Watson through 30
passes. That's going to happen with Fuller.
It's too bad Heath's not here
because we probably could find a fun stat of Hopkins
games under 10 targets where he
or exactly 9 targets where he's been good.
Heath hates those where
there's one target difference.
He was good.
You're starting DeAndre Hopkins.
It doesn't matter. Will Fuller or no Will Fuller? I mean, you're starting DeAndre Hopkins. It doesn't matter.
Will Fuller, no Will Fuller.
I know what you're saying, but he should be awesome.
It'll be fun next week to see how the Patriots try and take him out of the game.
So Jacoby Brissett was just a huge, huge letdown.
He was started in 38% of leagues.
He's 76% owned.
And I just thought they'd throw the ball more.
But this is now three straight games with Percet, not
including when he got hurt
against Pittsburgh. 24 or 25
pass attempts. Do you have his
game log there in front of you? Yeah, I do.
I believe we talked about
this on HQ last night after the game.
He hasn't
been over 200 passing yards since September.
One time since September.
It was a Texas game.
Actually, he had 202 against Denver.
I don't know what month that was in.
But it's three straight games with 202 or fewer yards
and 25 or fewer pass attempts.
Is he playing poorly?
No, he's just not throwing the ball.
And he didn't have T.Y. Hilton for some of that.
But I'm surprised that they were able to run the ball.
It's not like they ran all over them, but'm surprised that they were able to run the ball.
It's not like they ran all over them, but as often as they did and somewhat effectively.
And they killed time of possession.
It was a bad game script for Jacoby Brissett,
and I just kind of thought he'd have to throw more.
Well, I think the fact that their defense played as well as it did,
you know, in keeping the Texans' score down.
You know, I mean, they had the big plays for Hopkins for the touchdowns,
but for the most part, you know, the game was clearly low scoring
when it's a 2017 outcome.
I think for Brissette, you also have to factor in, you know,
T.Y. Hilton had some bad drops.
And, you know, that's not on him.
You know, who knows how the game goes.
Some drives get extended, and maybe he finds the end zone one more time.
But he's just not going to be a trustworthy fantasy quarterback rest of the way.
I thought that he'd have an opportunity to take advantage of this Texans secondary.
They played better, again, against a receiving core that let the quarterback down
and is just not very explosive right now.
So you kind of know that you can drop Brissette.
You can drop Zach Paschal, who had no catches.
You can consider Eric Ebron, what he is,
which is going to be a boomer bus tight end.
And I think you buy back into T.Y. Hilton next week for sure.
Do you know?
Because T.Y. Hilton had been averaging like six catches for 50 yards.
I'm not saying he's a top 10 guy.
He's not a top 10 guy.
Five for 60. I mean, look he's a top 10 guy. He's not a top 10 guy. Five for 60.
We'll see how the weekend goes.
Can you make an argument if
Jamison Crowder has another big game that he's better
than T.Y. Hilton? Yes. Devontae Parker,
same thing. Yes. Jarvis
Landry. Yes. Guys
that have been playing well, putting up good numbers.
I'm going to start him.
I'm just kind of... yeah, I get it.
No, I know what you're saying.
I mean, it's not the, oh, I got T.Y. Hilton.
I'm just going to play him every week.
You probably have some decisions you could make,
but I think just in the general consensus
of what T.Y. Hilton is, you're probably starting him.
The Colts are a good defensive team.
That is obvious.
They've been really good since Dubai,
and they want to run the football.
That is also painfully obvious.
That's going to hurt the passing game.
Last thing, I'm going to give you a homework assignment here.
You are going to have to, because I looked into it yesterday,
and when the Texans have had Jonathan Joseph,
I think they've been significantly better just against wide receivers
and quarterbacks and whatnot, and Tayshaun Gibson as well.
So they got healthy a couple of weeks ago,
and they've played three weeks ago, three games ago.
They've played pretty well against the Jaguars and the Colts
and horribly against the Ravens, but, you know, that's the Ravens.
So look into that for us, Jamie.
All right.
Okay.
Thank you.
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All right, here are some stats to know for the NFC home games.
We did one of the NFC home games yesterday.
It was the Ravens-Rams.
The rest today, six games.
So I found this stat right after I dropped
Jameis Winston for Jacoby Brissett
and I sort of hate... You dropped him?
I dropped Winston for Brissett.
Yeah.
And started Brissett.
So six point... I did that because
two of the three rankers had
Brissett ahead of Winston.
So that's kind of what I do when I have a question.
I use the two out of three rule.
But Winston, he could just,
I could see him having such a big game.
Look at this history against the Falcons.
Oh, it's amazing.
Six point per passing touchdown leagues.
He has scored 20 or more fantasy points in every game.
He has scored 30 or more fantasy points
in three straight and four out of five.
And just this season alone,
you're talking about 300 plus
yards in seven of his last eight games
and 41 or more passes in six of
his last seven games. We know the deal.
He just can't turn it over.
It's not a slam dunk because the Falcons have been
playing well the last two games, Jamie, but
when you look at volume and
passing yards and history, the
makings are there for a big
game. I think he's a really good DFS play, Winston.
He is.
And I would have started Brissette over Winston.
I was one of the two of the three that have been ranked over Jameis because of the Falcons
defense.
But I don't know if I would have dropped Jameis for Brissette.
I guess maybe you're stuck.
Yeah, it was a win now situation.
I had this week and, you know.
I think, look, Winston's got a shot.
It's just a matter of
you know does the falcons defense show up because clearly the falcons defense for the majority of
those times that winston's been playing against them either a has been beat up or not good or b
they just give up garbage time production to jamis now we haven't seen that the last couple games
from the falcons because they did a great job in keeping drew breeze out of the end zone he still
went for 300 yards and they turned over k Kyle Allen with the four interceptions last week.
And so is it a matter of, you know, this is always a fun conversation,
X's and O's versus Jimmy's and Joe's.
And so, yes, they've gotten a little bit healthier.
Drew Font coming back last week certainly helped that secondary.
But their play calling has been better.
Their defense has been better.
You know, turning the pass rush has been a lot better, too.
Yeah.
So will they get to James?
James is going to get his yards.
That goes without saying, because they can't run the ball with any level of success or consistency.
And they're probably going to be chasing points.
So James, unless he gets pulled, which you have to start to factor in at this point with all the turnovers,
that Bruce Arians at some point is going to be like, dude, you're done.
Go sit down.
Yeah, that could happen. And he's got the and he's
supposed to be fine, but he was limping around at the end of the game last week with an ankle injury.
So if he's four quarters out there, I mean, 300, 320, that's on the table. Multiple touchdowns
on the table, multiple interceptions, unfortunately, on the table. And so it's just a matter of,
uh,
which part of the Jameis rollercoaster do you get?
And so I,
I think you're probably looking at,
you know,
20 fantasy points.
And,
you know,
that's kind of where I,
I,
I just always feel like Jameis Winston is going to live with his fantasy
production.
That's basically where he's been.
That's why I went with percent over him.
Cause he just throws so many interceptions,
but you've got him 10th.
Uh,
Heath has him eighth. Dave has Winston 14th. So he's a so many interceptions. But you've got him 10th. Heath has him 8th.
Dave has Winston 14th.
So he's a good start this week if you need him.
Other stats, let's look at Jordan Howard.
He's had 19 and 23 carries in his last two games.
We're hoping he plays.
He's been limited in practice.
The Seahawks' run defense is really not that bad on a per-carry basis,
but they give up a lot of fantasy points because they give up touchdowns.
And there have been four running backs with 15 or more carries
against the Seahawks. All four of them
have scored a touchdown. Do you like Jordan
Howard this week?
If he plays, he'll be in that
low-end starting range.
I have Miles Sanders ranked ahead of
all the running backs in last night's game.
That's probably where Jordan Howard will slot in.
I would have started him ahead of Hyde.
I would have started him ahead of Williams and the Colts guys,
just not knowing what that situation was.
So somewhere between 20 and 28, 29, in that range.
So it just kind of comes down to what your roster looks like.
I still think Miles Sanders will clearly have a role.
He'll be the pass catcher.
He's done a nice job doing that throughout last week's game
where he kind of got away from the three catches that he'd been getting each of the pass catcher. He's done a nice job doing that throughout last week's game where he kind of got away from the three catches
that he'd been getting each of the last five games.
But if they commit to Howard completely,
I just wonder what Jay Ajayi's role will be.
Will he have four to five touches?
Will they work him in a little bit more?
And that factors in if Howard doesn't play also.
So it could be a little bit of a messy situation for the Eagles backfield.
All right. We don't need to get too deep into this one, factors in if Howard doesn't play also. So it could be a little bit of a messy situation for the Eagles backfield.
We don't need to get too deep into this one, but Alvin Kamara has only two touchdowns this season.
He scored 13 and 18
touchdowns in his first two seasons.
He's going for four.
Here come the Carolina Panthers. They've given
up at least one rushing touchdown in six
straight games to running back.
With Kamara, with Fournette,
you might get something like you saw with John Brown
last week, a little bit of touchdown regression
where those guys, Kamara and Fournette, have three
touchdowns combined this season.
Jeff Driscoll
has scored the second most fantasy points
of any quarterback against the Bears
this season, and the most fantasy
points of any quarterback against
the Cowboys this season. So how
about that? And he gets the Redskins
and they are not very
good. So as long as he
has a decent pass volume,
he might be a streamer this week,
Jeff Driscoll. Not just the pass volume. He's rushed for
88 yards the last two games. It's one of
my favorite stats for this week. His 88 yards
rushing in the last two games
is two more than
Kalen Balazs has in his last five games combined.
So Driscoll's, you know, doing a nice job with his fantasy production. And like you said,
Washington, not very good. I know their numbers against quarterbacks is a little bit skewed
because they don't give up a lot of big games. Sam Donald had one last week with the 33 points,
but Driscoll's one of my favorite DFS plays. He's going to be popular because I think a lot of people look at his price and what the outcome could be. But sometimes you
just have to take the chalk when it's available to you. And so given what he's doing with his legs,
given what his receiving core looks like, and we've seen, you know, Kenny Galladay with the
one touchdown against the Bears in garbage time. It was Marvin Jones with the multiple touchdowns
last week. He has good players around him. And so I think, you know, given the opponent and how he's performing,
he's got a good opportunity.
Like I'm starting Jeff Driscoll, just to give you some context,
I'm starting Jeff Driscoll in one league over Aaron Rodgers.
I think he's got a higher ceiling this week than Rodgers does against the 49ers.
Wow. And I'm looking forward to breaking down that 49ers-Packers game.
I think the thing with the quarterbacks against the Redskins
is that when they've thrown the ball, they've
been good. But when Bill
Callahan took over, they ran the ball so much
that they really limited the
pass attempts of the quarterbacks. We talked
about that going into the Jets game last week, but
the Jets had this great run defense.
So were the Redskins really
going to be able to do that? Darnold only threw
30 times. He threw three touchdowns. That's
kind of all you need, but Driscoll
have that rushing ability too. Final stat
here, same game. The Redskins allow the
eighth most fantasy points to running
backs. Only 4.1 yards per carry
to running backs, but they've given up
a rushing touchdown in six of their last
seven games. However, most
of the running backs that do well against the Redskins
get 16 or more carries.
They don't have that bad of a run defense, and
De'Ron Payne is apparently going to play,
and he's a very good player for them.
He won't be 100%. But, you know,
Bo Scarborough, let me throw out
some names. Bo Scarborough or
Jordan
Howard if he plays.
I would probably go Scarborough.
Both guys are not going to be involved in the passing game,
so I would take Scarborough. How about Bo Scarborough. Both guys are not going to be involved in the passing game. Okay.
How about Bo Scarborough or Golden Tate?
Non-PPR, I'd go Scarborough.
PPR, I'd go Tate.
Bo Scarborough or Amari Cooper at the Pats?
Same thing.
Scarborough, non-PPR, Cooper, PPR.
The thing you know with Scarborough is he's not going to catch the ball.
Yes, exactly.
One catch, two catches, maybe tops, but he's not going to be he's he's Carlos Hyde he's Derek Henry he's those
type of guys you know so just understand what you're getting if he doesn't score you're probably
looking at like what what Hyde gave you last night as probably the ceiling 65 75 yards if things go
well um you know last week they committed to one guy 14 carries it's the most carries that running back has had for the Lions since week four.
And you got lucky that he scored the touchdown.
So hopefully that's the case again this week.
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Bo Scarborough, not a bad option.
I thought about putting him in my lineup right now. I have a Brown stack going without Baker
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News and notes for you, ladies and gentlemen.
George Kittle expects to play.
That's good.
But we don't know about Emmanuel Sanders or Debo Samuel.
Who do you think is playing?
They're trending in the right direction.
It sounds like all the 49ers are going to be out there.
Kittle would be great, clearly, to get him out there against the Packers.
They've been bad against tight ends for most of the season.
So, look, you're starting him if he plays.
It would help Garoppolo in a big, big way.
Same thing with Sanders and with Debo as well.
The last time we saw all these guys healthy was against the Cardinals
on that Thursday night game, and Garoppolo went
for 36 fantasy points. He threw four touchdowns.
Sanders scored. Kittle scored.
It could be a real, real
big game for Garoppolo. I may have to change my
rankings of him if he has everybody healthy.
Yeah, but what do you do with Debo Samuel? Because we don't
know what Debo can do with
Sanders and Kittle on the field.
He's downgraded. He's a number three receiver.
And so you've got to look I think, sort of two ways.
One, you know, if everybody's fully healthy, you know, he probably gets a max of about seven targets.
That's what he had in that Cardinals game.
If we have the situation like we saw last week where Sanders started, couldn't make it through the game because of the rib injury.
And then you're looking at Debo getting probably a ton of work.
But it's a good secondary for the Packers.
Their corners are fairly good most weeks with King and Alexander
and how those guys tend to operate.
So number three receiver at best.
I'm going to tell you when we preview that game
why it's such a strange matchup of what the offense does
versus what the defense does.
49ers offense versus Packers defense.
Matt Breida, though, is less likely to play, right?
Yeah.
I mean, we were hearing, you know, multiple
week injury, two weeks, you know,
but he is Deadpool,
you know, so the one week off could
have helped him, you know, regenerate
and be ready to go.
Brandon Cook's expected to play. Robert
Woods not certain about his status right now.
Well, he came back to practice.
He did.
They still haven't committed to him playing.
But how would you go about the wide receivers
real quick against Baltimore?
I mean, we'll find out Saturday
with the game being Monday night.
So I think we'll get a clear-cut idea
of how those guys are going to be out there.
So Cooks is the number three receiver.
I think Woods is the same thing.
It's just a tough matchup.
The Ravens' defense has just been fantastic.
They're going to make Goff uncomfortable.
Goff is such a rhythm quarterback that if he's not getting time to just, you know,
sort of step back and hit his reads, he's not typically successful.
He plays much better in rhythm.
So I would be very nervous about all the Rams receivers.
Okay.
Including Cooper Cup.
Yeah. Tyler Lockett, limited in practice.
Do you think he plays at Philadelphia?
You know, two things.
One, we'll find out what his practice status is on Friday.
That's going to be key.
The other thing is it's a rare 1 o'clock start for the Seahawks.
So you'll know what his status is without having to sweat out a 4 o'clock active-inactive.
So my guess is he's going to play.
Excuse me, my guess is he's going to play. Excuse me, I guess he's going to play.
But if not, then, you know, Josh Gordon gets a bump,
and DK Metcalf is clearly a must-start anyway.
It would be even better.
All right.
I'm also going to tell you why the Eagles' defense,
or basically, statistically, how they've been a lot better
their last four games against the pass.
Mohamed Sanu could miss several weeks with an ankle injury.
Philip Dorsett has a chance to play.
Which Patriots wide receivers, if any, other than Edelman, obviously,
are you looking at in this game against Dallas?
I mean, you'd look at Dorsett if there's no Mohamed Sanu
just as the chance to score a touchdown like we saw last week.
I don't know if he'll have a huge stat line,
but I think you've got to take a look at Nikhil Harry and Jacoby Myers.
They brought up a great point.
Myers has been the one playing with Tom Brady this entire season.
But Harry, I'm sure, is the one they want to get going and feature a little bit more.
So I would probably give a slight nod to Harry over Myers if, in fact, both guys are out.
If Dorsett is in, then it's clearly a gamble, which the other two guys would be the one you want to lean toward.
But I still would look at Harry with the chance of them trying to get him going in a home game.
Would you start Dorsett over –
They haven't been home since week eight, I believe.
Who, the Patriots?
Yeah, they had two road games and a bye since week eight.
Weren't they home last week?
They had Baltimore, a bye, and then they were at Philadelphia last week.
They were at Philadelphia?
Oh, they were at Philadelphia, right.
Philip Dorsett or Brandon Cooks,
if Dorsett plays and Sanu doesn't?
That's a good one.
I'd probably go Dorsett.
All right.
New England has reportedly kicked the tires on Antonio Brown.
Real quick, should we stash Antonio Brown?
If you have an open roster spot in a deeper league,
it's not a bad idea, you know, just to see what happens.
You know, I think you sort of start to see the tea leaves.
Okay, he meets with the NFL after the meeting. He apologizes to Robert what happens. I think you sort of start to see the tea leaves. He meets with the NFL after the meeting.
He apologizes to Robert Kraft publicly.
Tom Brady's always wanted to keep him on the roster.
Now he's countersuing the woman who's suing him for the civil suit
in terms of the sexual allegations, saying that she ruined his career.
So who knows how that will all unfold.
But it wouldn't be surprising if the Patriots brought him back
just given what their need is
and if everything sort of gets settled
with his situation.
So it's not a slam dunk that he plays, obviously,
but if you have a roster spot that you're playing with,
you might want to consider it.
All right, Leighton Van Der Esch is expected
to miss this week's game with a neck issue.
Pick up Sean Lee in IDP Leagues.
He's been really good when Van Der Esch has been out.
Adrian Peterson mispracticed, but Bill Callahan expects him to play.
We'll talk about that game.
Darius Geis is going to be interesting.
He's very inexpensive on FanDuel, by the way, Darius Geis.
Nelson Aguilar hopes to practice today, but if Alshon Jeffrey plays,
you don't want Nelson Aguilar.
Jordan Howard practiced.
Devontae Freeman mispracticed, so probably not expecting him at the moment,
but we'll update you on HQ,
and we'll update you on the Mailbag Show.
Deontay Johnson practiced in full,
and Sterling Shepard practiced in full,
but I don't believe either of them
has actually cleared the concussion protocol,
so it's not a certainty that they're going to play.
Deontay Johnson and Sterling Shepard.
Let's beat the waiver wire.
We got some decent options for next week.
If anybody like me dropped Jared
Goff, you could go back to him. He's 84%
owned. But
then there's Nick Foles at Tampa Bay.
There's Sam Darnold at Cincinnati.
There's Kyle Allen against
Washington, LOL. But
he could be good at times. There's Daniel
Jones against Green Bay. That's not great, but you do want
Daniel Jones after the Green Bay game.
But Darnold at Cincinnati.
Well, I think so.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
He's had three games with more than 30 points or 35 points,
and his schedule gets great.
Darnold, although one of those games is Philadelphia,
might not be that great.
Darnold at Cincinnati, Nick Foles at Tampa Bay.
I think those are the two that I'd really recommend.
Yeah, I'm in a situation where I'm going to probably have to make a tough call.
I'm playing Derek Carr this week.
I have Carson Wentz on the bench.
Wentz gets Miami next week.
And so I have a roster spot that I'm playing with as well
that I may carry three quarterbacks and pick up Foles
just in case Wentz doesn't get his guys back.
Against Miami, even so, I probably would prefer Foles against Tampa Bay, just knowing how that secondary has been.
All right.
Running backs, always harder to find.
But Bo Scarborough is still only 64% owned, and he gets the Bears next week.
Benny Snell.
Benny Snell.
Darrell Williams is 12% owned.
Okay, yeah, Benny Snell. Benny Snell. Darrell Williams is 12% owned. Benny Snell is a good one. I will say this
though, if you want just to see
this is nothing but speculation
but Patrick Laird or Miles Gaskin
Caleb Blas is just so terrible.
Maybe one of those guys gets an opportunity.
The Jets are at the Bengals. The
Browns are at Pittsburgh. The
Eagles are at Miami. They're only
44% owned.
Denver gets the Chargers.
Panthers.
Denver gets the Panthers?
No, Panthers get the Redskins.
Oh, Panthers get the Redskins.
Okay, yeah.
And so the Jets, the Eagles, the Panthers,
they'll be popular pickups.
What's Ryan Griffin's ownership?
Oh, I don't know.
But that's a good one.
Ryan Griffin at the Bengals, I like that.
Gerald Everett at the Cardinals, Kyle Rudolph at the Seahawks,
those are all good matchups.
Rudolph has been great every time Adam Thielen's been off the field,
so if Thielen can't come back,
then he's definitely in the starting conversation.
And Sterling Shepard's 51% owned.
It's not a bad idea to stash him, see if he comes back,
gets Green Bay next week.
Start, sit, or flex at best?
I thought I was going to have a 60 seconds ranking debate with myself.
You want me to find one and I'll debate with you?
No.
Do that throughout the show.
Brian Hill against Tampa Bay.
Start, sit, or flex at best?
I think flex at best.
Last week was clearly disappointing in a great matchup against Carolina.
This is a tougher matchup against Tampa Bay.
We know their run defense has been good.
The thing that was a little troubling was the lack of work in the passing game.
You know, I thought that that would be something that they lean on a little bit more.
Maybe that's just something we've seen from Devontae Freeman when they've been chasing points,
which has clearly been the case most of the season.
I don't think they'll be chasing points this week.
So if he doesn't score, I think you're looking at probably a minimal stat line.
Now, he did have a touchdown call back.
Kadri Allison scored last week, but
Brian Hill just has not been impressive,
even in the two games with
Freeman getting hurt and then starting last week. So I wonder
if they have a lead, or maybe they're
just trying to do some different things, looking at 2020,
if they give Allison some extra run.
But Brian Hill gave us the bad karma.
He tweeted that he didn't care about fantasy
managers, fantasy owners.
Don't like to see that.
Things like that come back to haunt you, buddy.
Okay, and he's facing now a team that gives up the second fewest points to running backs
and the sixth fewest receiving yards per game to running backs in Tampa Bay.
Same game, Ronald Jones starts it or flex it best.
Same thing, flex it best.
You've got to buy into what this Falcons defense has done.
It's weird because their defense has played phenomenal the last two weeks.
Now, they gave up, I think it was 84 total yards to Alvin Kamara two games ago,
but 191 total yards to Christian McCaffrey.
Now, Christian McCaffrey, Ronald Jones, they're kind of similar.
Brian Hill or Ronald Jones, who would you go with?
I would go with Brian Hill over Ronald Jones.
I think there's a better chance
of him playing with the lead and probably falling into
the end zone. Cameron Brate, start, sit, or flex
at best?
I'd sit him just from the standpoint
of what
bleep are the Bucs going to do with their tight
ends this week? It's everybody's favorite game.
One of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers doing a tight end.
I love that.
Two games prior to that, he had no targets and no catches and barely played.
So was it just O.J. Howard with the around the back,
looked like he's playing basketball,
hand the ball to the other team interception that he gave up last week?
Or is it he's only good against Arizona and maybe they go back to him this week?
So it's just too much of a crapshoot for me.
I would be hands off unless you're stuck.
There are just some better streaming tight ends that you can look for on the waiver wire.
If you see Dallas Goddard and Cameron Bray, please pick up Dallas Goddard.
How about DJ Moore at New Orleans?
Start, sit, or flex at best?
Real quick, Jamie, I want to get to the games in a few minutes here.
All right, start, DJ Moore.
Curtis Samuel?
Flex at best.
How about Greg Olson?
Start. Daniel Jones is a sit, right? Yes. flex the best how about greg olson uh start daniel jones the pulse daniel jones the sit right
yes all right this one's tough golden tate because you know if shepherd plays
do you start golden tate uh flex at best you know better in ppr than non-ppr
saquon barkley start sit a running back has scored 14 or more in non-PPR in five of seven games since Hicks was hurt.
That's Saquon Barkley at the Bears.
Allen Robinson against Giants.
Must start.
You know, I think it's just it's a great matchup.
And I think they'll go back to him with the targets.
Last week was just Ramsey.
Yeah, absolutely.
David Montgomery against Giants. I week was just Ramsey. Yeah, absolutely. David Montgomery against the Giants.
I think he's a start.
You know, this is a game where Chicago should be playing with a lead
or at least not getting, you know,
run out of their building.
I don't think that'll be the case from the Giants.
So he's been 14 or more carries
in at least three straight games.
And so if he's getting 14 carries
in games where they're losing,
I think the fact that his ankle should be fine,
I would anticipate closer to 18 to 20
carries, and I think he'll do well against the Giants.
Last one, Tariq Cohen against
the Giants. Flex
at best is probably the safest thing
across the board, but I would consider him a borderline
starter in PPR. I like the fact that they
gave him 14 total touches last week,
and so I wonder if, and this
obviously ties into Montgomery, if they're trying to get him going total touches last week. And so I wonder if, and this obviously ties into Montgomery,
if they're trying to get him going a little bit more.
He was their best player last week offensively against the Rams.
And so he scored in two straight games.
So hopefully that's something they can build on.
The Giants aren't very, they don't give up a lot of passing yardage
and passes to receptions to running backs.
But they have given up a few big ones.
A six-catch game to somebody along the way.
Nine catches to another player.
I was looking at their game log last night.
I don't remember who they were. I'm sorry.
They do give up some big games to running backs when they get thrown on.
Honestly, there was a point
where the Giants weren't bad against
tight ends, and then Jason Witten
and Blake Jarwin tore them up. I just think
they're bad against... Anyone
you want to be good against the Giants
will be good against the Giants if you're an offense.
Well, Tariq Cohen or David Montgomery in PPR?
I think I have them back-to-back
with Montgomery one spot ahead.
All right.
Well, now's the toughest part of the show, Jamie.
I don't know what I'm going to do here.
Bonanza time.
I know what you're going to do.
You do? Falcon Fox. Yeah, that's what you're going to do. You do?
Falcon bucks.
Yeah.
That's the one I was
looking at.
What else?
What else?
Oh, I got it.
I got it.
Falcons bucks.
There you go.
I mean, it's the
highest over under on
the, on the table by
far.
If you could make
that ride your start
of the week, I can
make Falcons bucks
my Bonanza.
All right. So quarterbacks arecons books. My bonanza. All right.
So quarterbacks are going to be good.
Gosh, the wide receivers are going to be.
Calvin Ridley is going to have a big game.
Not a big one, but a big game.
Hope you all heard that on yesterday's show.
Make sure you listen to the preview.
All right.
Here we go.
Seattle, Philadelphia. One of the running backs going to have to the preview. Here we go. Seattle and Philadelphia. One of the running backs
is going to have to do something in that bonanza. Seattle
and Philadelphia.
Philadelphia's past defense,
we had been talking about it every week,
is a great matchup. With their last four
games, they've held Dak Prescott to 22
points, 6 points for passing
touchdown leaks. Josh Allen to 20, Trubisky
to 6, Brady to 8
fantasy points. Prescott and Allen scored 22 and 20 fantasy points. They had 9 and 4 fantasy points via the only ones to catch touchdowns. They did great against
John Brown. Great against Michael Gallup.
Great against Alan Robinson. Great against
Julian Edelman.
Everybody's got
Russell Wilson top three this week.
Lockett's a must start. I'm sure
you like DK Metcalf at least as a number
two.
You had actually the low guy on DK Metcalf
by the way.
What do you think? Are they going You had actually the low guy on DK Metcalf, by the way. Yeah.
What do you think?
Are they going to have a big game against these Eagles?
I think they'll be good.
You know, it's also a byproduct of who's missing with injuries and the bye weeks, why they're ranked in certain spots.
But it's hard to get away from those guys.
You know, I mean, you've seen the targets go up for DK Metcalf lately.
Obviously, Tyler Lockett's always in play to be a huge contributor.
Hopefully he's healthy.
Russell Wilson, in a lot of cases, is matchup proof.
And so I think you kind of look at it as like I throw out the Patriots game because that offense is just not in sync right now.
The Bills offense is kind of one of those scenarios of you never know what you're going to get from Josh Allen.
They're the Forrest Gump of fantasy.
And Dak, it was in Philadelphia, right?
Dak? No.
It was that Sunday night game in...
I don't remember.
I think it was that Sunday night game in Dallas.
But I'll double check. Oh, but think it was that Sunday night game in Dallas, but I'll double check.
Oh,
but that was also a rare situation for them.
It wasn't Dallas.
It's a rare situation for them because it was the first hundred yard game. They'd given up on the ground and like forever.
And it was one of Zeke's best games.
All right.
So you're not buying it.
You're not buying it.
I think they've improved.
They definitely got healthy.
And so they're,
they're better.
It's,
it's more,
I think of,
you know,
uh, can you really get away from Russell Wilson who's having an MVP?
It's the same thing like Lamar Jackson.
We went into that game against the Patriots.
As great as the Patriots have been playing defensively,
and we were all very confident across the board,
you're starting Lamar Jackson, don't even think about it.
It's the same thing with Russell Wilson.
He's having such a good year.
He's so fantastic.
And this defense does not
scare me enough, despite what they've done
the last four weeks. If you tell me, it's the same thing
with Deshaun Watson. You tell me that I'm getting
22 points, I'm starting.
Going in, that's the floor, I'm taking it.
And Wilson has scored
19 or fewer points in three of his last
four games, but I understand. You just can't sit
him. And he's
going to the East Coast. Is that a problem? Well, he had
30 points at Pittsburgh. He had 32
fantasy points at Cleveland. I know that's not the East
Coast. It's still a pretty big trip. He did only
have 19 fantasy points at Atlanta, but
just 20 pass attempts.
It's a huge game for Philly. The one thing, if you're just looking
at it from the Seahawks standpoint,
this is Philly back to the wall.
We've seen it now a few times, and I think
that's kind of where their defense has stepped up on occasion.
If Dallas somehow manages to win against the Patriots,
they won't know by the time they play,
but they're looking up at the standings,
and if they don't win the division, they're not making the playoffs in the NFC.
They have a very easy schedule going forward, though, the Eagles.
Chris Carson, is he a no-doubt-about-it, must-start, even in a tough matchup?
It's the same thing like Russell Wilson. I look at Chris Carson and Mark he a no-doubt-about-it, must-start, even in a tough matchup? It's the same thing like Russell Wilson.
I look at Chris Carson and Mark Ingram very similar.
Carson's obviously had a little bit more consistent season,
but they're just in offenses that lean on the run more so than the pass.
They're getting so much work.
Carson, again, more so than Ingram.
Maybe it's a bad comparison, but I think Carson's just one of those guys
like you just said it and forget it.
You know he's going to get the touches
and always has a chance to score.
Okay, then.
So everybody's going to start Lockett if he plays.
He's Tyler Lockett.
DK Metcalf.
So Dave and Heath have him higher than you.
15th, top 15 in non-PPR.
20th, 17th in PPR.
You're more like 25 with DK Metcalf.
It's not a huge difference.
No, I moved him up.
I don't know what you're looking at.
Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
I'll refresh the rankings page.
You know, I do these notes the night before
or earlier in the day before things change.
All right, you've got DK Metcalf, 20th.
All right, great.
So we'll start DK Metcalf.
I actually just dropped him in a 10-team league last night
because somebody, they were stuck. They dropped Keenan Allen because they needed to make some moves. So I probably just would him in a 10-team league last night because somebody, they were stuck.
They dropped Keenan Allen because they needed to make some moves.
So I probably just would have made a trade.
I would have made a trade just to take,
like I don't need to play DK Metcalf,
so I'd rather just take the shot on Keenan Allen
and see what the stretch run is for him.
And I put in a claim for DK Metcalf in a 10-team league.
I'm not sure if I got him.
I hope I did.
But yeah, he's been more involved.
He's been really good.
No interest in Josh Gordon, I assume?
Not if Tyler Lockett plays.
I would not be surprised if he has,
as we've seen throughout the year,
a David Moore touchdown, a Jerron Brown touchdown.
He could clearly find the end zone.
And it would be great if they get him going
just from Russell Bolson's standpoint.
But I do think that if he starts to get more work,
it's going to take away from Lockett and DK Metk metcalf so that could be some concern moving forward so would you start dk metcalf
or jordan howard if howard plays mecca okay starter said carson wentz oh oh sorry jacob
hollister forgot about him starter said jacob hollister yeah he's in that you know streaming conversation uh he's uh just uh
top 10 guy for me I've moved him behind I know we talked about this on Tuesday but I moved him behind
guys like Vance McDonald and uh uh Dallas Goddard you know just you know some of the
waiver wire options that you could have been looking at just because I think those guys are
in a little better situations matchup wise. But Hollister, look, he's
proven to be a reliable option for Russell
Wilson the last two games. 39
PPR points is hard to overlook. So
I know the Eagles statistically have been good against
tight ends, but I would still be comfortable
starting Jacob Hollister this week.
Yeah, the 49ers have been arguably the
best team against tight ends statistically,
but Hollister had a huge game
against them. He's the only one who had more than five targets against them.
It is what
it is in terms of the points
to tight ends. It's kind of fluky.
Carson Wentz, I'll just be
quick here. You have him as a sit. Heath has him
sixth. You have him 19th and so does
Dave or right around there anyway.
It's not a bad matchup
and it would be nice if he does have Jeffrey back
and a healthy Aguilar because that would make his receiving core as healthy as it's, it's not a bad matchup and it would be nice if he does have Jeffrey back and a healthy Aguilar,
cause that would,
you know,
make his receiving core as healthy as it's been since Deshaun Jackson's been
in and out of the lineup.
But I just,
those guys aren't going to be a hundred percent.
And when it's just,
has not been a good fantasy quarterback.
I'll be,
I hope he plays well in this game or well enough that you can trust him for
the rest of the way.
Cause the schedule gets really favorable for him after this week.
So I, I I'd like to be wrong
on this one for those of you that are relying on Carson Wentz, but I just think he's going to
probably struggle against Seattle just given the way he's played. The Seahawks, seven of 10
quarterbacks have scored 19 to 24 fantasy points against the Seahawks. That's not bad, but almost
all of them have either had a rushing, the good ones have either had a rushing touchdown, the good ones, have either had a rushing touchdown or a ton of passes. And that's probably not going to happen for Carson Wentz. That's just not what he
does. They run the ball and he doesn't really run it himself. So we talked about the Eagles running
backs. Jordan Howard would be an okay start if he plays. Miles Sanders, though, give me your
thoughts on him. If Howard's out, I think he's in that 20 to 25 range,
better in PPR than non-PPR.
I think if you tell me again he's getting 13, 15 touches,
then I'd be okay with him.
Not as confident as I was last week, and clearly that was a letdown.
But I think he'll be involved in the passing game enough,
with or without Howard.
And the question is the wild card of what JGI will do if Howard's not there.
So I still think Sanders is probably better off as a flex if you just want to
look at it that way.
All right.
So Sanders, if Howard's out, would you play Sanders or Scarborough?
I would play Scarborough in non-PPR, Sanders in PPR.
Would you play Tariq Cohen or Sanders if Howard's out?
Same thing.
I'd play Sanders, non-PPR, Cohen, PPR.
Okay. So same thing thing but actually kind of different
because in this case
you're going with Sanders
in the non-PPR scenario, right?
Yes, yes, you're right.
So it's like in non-PPR
it's like Scarborough, Sanders,
Tariq Cohen.
In PPR it's Cohen, Sanders, Scarborough.
Yes.
Hey!
Yes.
Now we're getting it.
Didn't even have to do
a rankings dispute.
Okay, if Sanders... Forget it, forget it. Didn't even have to do a rankings dispute. Okay.
If Sanders, forget it.
Forget it.
We'll move on from him.
Philadelphia wide receivers.
Alshon Jeffries had 52 or fewer yards in five of seven games.
He does need touchdowns, and he gets them sometimes.
Start or sit, Alshon?
I'd probably lean towards sit because he'd be outside my top 24,
but it'd be nice to get him back.
Just to, I guess, look at it, I'd probably start him over Brandon Cooks.
I'd probably start him behind Robert Woods.
You'd go Woods, Jeffrey Cooks?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let me give you a stat here.
No wide receiver with fewer than seven targets against the Seahawks
has had more than 55 yards or a touchdown.
So you kind of need your targets.
It's not like he could get seven,
but he's not a high volume receiver, Alshon Jeffrey.
No, but it's funny because we've been sitting here for the last few days
talking about Nelson Agler being a high target guy
when Jeffrey's not on the field.
He's had 17 targets the last two games.
And so it's going to be, I think, dependent on how well the Seahawks,
I'm sorry, the Eagles run the ball against the Seahawks.
And then you have to factor in, look, they've been running so many two tight end sets,
which is why Goddard and Ertz have been doing what they're doing.
So that's probably something that will continue, I would think,
even with Jeffrey back on the field.
All right, you're starting Zach Ertz.
He's the man lately.
And Goddard, are there any tight ends you would typically start
that you're going to bench for Dallas Goddard,
who you have in your top seven?
No.
I mean, if you throw Jimmy Graham, I guess,
that's probably the closest one that you would consider a startable guy.
You've got Greg Olson and Goddard back-to-back.
But it's just like it's all streamers
this week. It's four tight ends and streamers.
Yeah, you got three guys at the
top, now four, I guess, with
Kittle coming back, you know, with
Ertz, Waller, and Andrews,
and then Kittle, and then
after that, it's just, you know,
you want to say Jared Cook has put himself back
in that conversation, fine, but after that, it's just
okay.
Alright, well, Jamie, I'm not, it's just okay. All right.
Well, Jamie, I'm not sure what you're doing at noon today.
Actually, I am sure what you're doing at noon today.
You're doing fantasy football today on HQ.
But I'm going to be there with you.
There's only one other place I'd rather be, and that's in, I think, Charleston, South Carolina,
where the Miami Hurricanes and the Florida Gators are facing off today.
You probably didn't even know that.
But they're playing in basketball today.
You did?
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Good for you.
Well, anyway, Gators are probably going to win.
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All right, the second game that I'm super excited to talk about today.
I was very excited about Philadelphia-Seattle.
Big game.
A lot of big games this week.
Green Bay at San Francisco.
So here's what's interesting about this.
Wide receivers against Green Bay are much better in non-PPR,
or let's say better in non-PPR than full PPR.
Green Bay, they give up a lot of big plays.
They allow the second fewest receptions to wide receivers,
but the most yards per catch.
And they have given up the second most 40-plus yard pass plays in the NFL.
And it's an interesting matchup because the Niners aren't that type of team.
They have the third fewest 40-yard pass plays in the NFL.
So we'll see what happens.
But you see a lot of teams that have multiple wide receivers
with good non-PPR games,
but not with good PPR games against the Packers
because they just don't give up a lot of receptions.
So that's kind of interesting.
Well, teams run on them.
Yeah, teams do.
Yeah, they have a bad run defense.
No question.
Where do you want to start with this game?
Niners or Packers?
You tell me, Jamie.
Start with the road team.
Okay, let's start with the road team.
That would be the Packers.
Sunday night, going in there.
Aaron Rodgers is a sit for you.
The 49ers are good against quarterbacks.
They allowed the seventh fewest.
Unless you're Kyler Murray, they're good against quarterbacks.
So tell me why you're sitting Rodgers.
You have him 16th, I believe.
Yeah, I mean, his last two games have not been good fantasy-wise.
I think the pass rush for the 49ers, even without Dee Ford in there,
is going to be a problem for him.
We've seen that when he's been under pressure.
He hasn't put up big games.
I think you look at the way that these two teams have operated defensively,
they sort of mirror each other a little bit in that they've struggled against the run when teams have tried to run on them and so
the packers are not afraid to lean on their running backs whether it's out of the backfield
catching the ball or certainly carrying the ball and i think that's kind of going to be how this
game goes it's going to be a lot of aaron jones jamal williams and you know rogers will take his
his shots when he has to but the only guy that I fully trust in the passing game, aside from the running backs, is Devontae Adams.
And so I think it's going to be a game where Rodgers is 18 points, 19 points, you know, maybe 21, 22.
Low-end starter.
So I don't think you have to completely run away from him.
But I think guys like Jeff Driscoll and Sam Donald have just a bitter ceiling based on their matchups.
So I just don't love the setup for Rodgers in this game.
Last time he went to the West Coast, he got beat up by the Chargers in their past rush.
So I also looked.
His last five games coming off of a bye, he's only got one game over 20 fantasy points.
Now, I didn't go back and study how good those defenses were.
Were they better than the Niners i mean probably not probably not to the same level you know i'm
sure there was probably one or two in there but uh you know just looking at his numbers he just
does not put up huge games coming off of a buy so statistically in trends you know maybe that's
something to consider i still think the packers win the game, but I think it's
going to be because of their defense and because
of their ground attack.
Yeah. Aaron Jones
is going to be a must-start, even though he hasn't had a lot of
touches. This is a game for him, certainly.
Rodgers, in his good games,
the four good games he's had have been against
teams that rank 17th or worse against quarterbacks.
The six bad games he's had,
all are top 14.
Five of them are top 10.
So, you know, it's been a matchup
thing for Rodgers. I think it's probably a little
more complicated than that. I like the
fact that he has the fourth most pass attempts in the red
zone. I like the fact that he has the fourth most pass
attempts inside the 10-yard line.
I think he's been a little unlucky. You know, like
he was going to have a big game against Detroit, and then one of
his receivers, I can't remember his name,
ball bounced right off his chest, became an interception in the end zone.
He was going to have an even better game against the Eagles.
He threw that interception right near the goal line at the end of the game.
I want to believe in Rodgers.
He's making it pretty hard.
And, yeah, it's easier to run than pass on the Niners.
So you're going to start Adams.
You're going to start Aaron Jones.
We've talked about Miles Sanders
and Jordan Howard and Bo Scarborough.
Where is Jamal Williams with those guys?
He's ahead of Scarborough and PPR.
He's behind Sanders in both,
and that's contingent clearly on Jordan Howard.
So he'd be ahead of Sanders if Howard plays.
He's a flex, and I think we've
seen what he is. I think it's three straight games prior to their last game, three of his last four,
he scored a receiving touchdown. So, you know, you're kind of getting some fluky scenarios of
him being a good fantasy asset. But, you know, his playing time has been almost the same as Aaron
Jones of late. And so, you know, he could be the one at the end of a drive scoring a touchdown.
So it's just a matter of what your fantasy team looks like.
But I think he'll be good enough to use as a flex this week.
Yeah.
But at the same time, Jamal Williams has to terrify you a little bit
because two games ago, he had two carries.
That's what I'm saying.
It's somewhat fluky.
And last week in 13.
And better in PPR than non-PPR.
Right.
But then again, he had no catches last week.
We know that the Green Bay running backs are unlikely to catch the ball as much with Devontae Adams on the field.
And the Niners, they give up the second fewest receiving yards to running backs.
Okay.
Go into the Niners now.
And Jimmy Graham is a sit, right? Yep. Okay. Go into the Niners now. And Jimmy Graham is a sit, right? Yep. Okay. Go into the Niners. So Jimmy Garoppolo, I think he's really tough to evaluate. You just haven't had a lot
of games with him having Sanders and Kittle and Deebo Samuel playing well. He's had three big
games this year. They've been against the Bengals and the Cardinals twice. So what do you think? I
mean, what do you think about it? You like him better than Rodgers?
I would like him better than Rodgers if he gets everybody healthy.
If he doesn't have everybody healthy, I'll take Rodgers over him.
But, you know, same thing.
Low end starter.
I'd start Driscoll and Darnold ahead of him.
This Packers team has been really good against quarterbacks.
You know, so you look at it, the pass rush will be a problem for him.
I don't think Joe Staley's going to gonna play so still dealing with the replacement left tackle and you can run on the
packers you know i i can't see kyle shanahan looking at this defense and saying okay let's
just scrap what we typically do and all of a sudden drop back and throw it 35 times and try
and get a shootout with aaron rogers you know that just doesn't make a ton of sense so i would
anticipate a lot of work for tevin coleman Raheem Mostert, and Jeff Wilson
all working in.
It makes it frustrating because there's not one guy you could say is fantastic.
I'd still lean toward Coleman.
But in terms of Garoppolo, I think he's going to be better if everybody's healthy, but still
not a guaranteed must play.
If everyone's healthy, are you going with Sam Darnold, Derek Carr, Jeff Driscoll over
Garoppolo?
Yeah.
I just said that.
You did say that? Yeah. You you did and you're sure you're
gonna do that you sure you want to put those guys over him maybe i just didn't didn't believe it
i will say this though like right now right now i have garoppolo as a sit and start set
if he gets those guys back he's going to be removed from the column because it'll be a
much better situation all right let me ask last question about last question about Garoppolo. He'd be like probably 13, 14 for me where I'm ranked.
Okay, if Kittle, Sanders, and Samuel all play,
are you going to rank him ahead of Carr, Darnold?
No, I'm just kidding.
All right, we're going to take a break here.
Maybe Darnold.
Maybe Darnold.
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When we come back, we'll finish up on this game.
We'll talk about Tevin Coleman.
We'll talk about the wide receivers.
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Okay, Jamie, how do you feel about Tevin Coleman this week?
I think Tevin Coleman's got an opportunity to play well.
I'm hopeful that this is a better game than we've seen the last couple weeks.
Maybe just the Cardinals have the 49ers number in terms of their run defense,
but the Packers, they've struggled against the run all season,
so I think you should be starting Tevin Coleman.
Okay, you're going to start Tevin Coleman or Aaron Jones?
I'm going to go Aaron Jones.
I think Jones is going to have a monster game,
but Coleman should be a good number two running back.
Cool. All right, so we talked about the receivers,
and you're ranking Sanders ahead of Debo if they both play?
I am ranking Sanders ahead of Debo if they both play? I am ranking Sanders ahead of Debo if they both play, yes.
And if everyone plays Debo Samuel,
it becomes like a number three wide receiver
in between Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks,
if Woods plays, that is.
And if Sanders doesn't play, or Kittle,
well, Kittle expects to play.
If Sanders doesn't play Debo Samuel,
would he be like ahead of DK Metcalf or not quite?
No, he'd be 25, 26.
Kind of where I have him right now.
Start George Kittle.
And the San Francisco DST,
I think you've got to avoid him, right?
I would try to.
I wouldn't say that.
I like the Lions better, the Falcons better,
the Browns better.
All three that were available.
I think they have the Saints next week.
It's not crazy if you drop them.
They've got some tough matchups coming up.
I'm going to have to make that decision myself.
Detroit at Washington.
Your stat of the game,
the Lions allow the most rushing touchdowns
and the most receiving touchdowns to running backs.
It is pretty amazing.
So I know how you feel about Bo Scarborough.
We talked about him,
but how do you feel about Darius Geis?
I'm kind of getting excited about him.
I think this is a week that they can give him a bigger workload.
And you said the Lions have a bad against running backs.
They allow the most fancy points to the position.
17 touchdowns on the season.
He scored last week through the air.
So I think he's a number two running back.
Probably better to treat him as a flex.
But I think this is going to be his breakout game in the NFL.
He's got a chance, especially with Peterson banged up.
We expect Peterson to play,
but that doesn't mean he'll get the full workload.
Would you start Geis over, say, Jamal Williams or Royce Freeman,
these number two running backs?
I would, yes.
Okay.
Excellent.
We'll stick with the Redskins.
Start or sit Terry McLaurin?
The only Redskin that I like this week is Darius Geis. Okay, we're stick with the Redskins. Start or sit, Terry McLaurin? The only Redskin that I like this week is Darius Geist.
Okay, we're done with the Redskins. Let's go over to the Lions.
I think McLaurin's the number three receiver.
Hopefully he takes advantage of the matchup.
But he's probably going to get Darius Lefkowitz.
If all the wide receivers...
If Samuel, Sanders, and Kittle play,
are you going Debo Samuel or Terry McLaurin?
Samuel.
Jeff Driscoll.
He's 12th for you, 17th
for Dave, 11th for Heath. We already talked
about he's got a really nice opportunity here
against the Redskins
as long as they... Yeah, no.
He's got a good opportunity. He's been running the ball.
So you're starting him over Aaron Rodgers
as we know.
And Bo Scarborough. You do like him
better than Geis, right?
I do in non-PPR leagues, yes.
In PPR, I'd go with Geis.
Really? Because Geis had one catch last week,
and Chris Thompson might play.
I still think there's a better chance of him catching the ball
than Bo Scarborough.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with that.
JD McKissick, by the way,
four straight games with three or more catches,
so he's a desperation PPR guy.
Sit Ty Johnson.
Do you have faith?
I'd see by the rankings that you do have faith in the Lions wide receivers.
The last two teams they've faced were second and third against wide receivers.
Very tough matchups, Dallas and Chicago.
This week it's easier against the Redskins.
You going to start Galladay and Jones?
They really haven't.
I mean, it's been a little discouraging, especially for Galladay with Driscoll.
Yeah, I think Galladay got the garbage time touchdown two games ago,
but I'll buy back into him.
He's had a great season.
And I know Driscoll spread the ball around,
but I still think you're going to start Galladay,
and you should start him.
And I think that Jones at this point,
Jones has been a better fantasy receiver.
You know what I mean?
It's clearly the touchdowns, but he's been good.
You know, it's kind of like I'll compare it to
and this was the start of your friendship strategy
when Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree were on the
same team and both were
not slam dunks week
in, week out. Cooper was better than Crabtree,
but Crabtree was the one scoring touchdowns. You just
sort of start the two of them and hope for the
best. Would you start Marvin Jones or
a running back in this game?
I would start Marvin Jones. Okay. or a running back in this game i would start marvin jones okay
even a non-ppr yep all right i'm pretty hopeful for for scar bro like i feel like if he gets 15
carries he's going to be pretty good but we just don't know that it's going to happen you have to
you know you have to keep that in the back of your mind uh no tj hockinson in this game
and that's pretty much it in the Lions DST.
You're starting the Lions over
the Niners. Would you start them over the Patriots?
Yes.
All right. Let's go Lions.
The Redskins have not scored more than 17 points
since week two.
They give up a ton of sacks.
17 sacks allowed by the Redskins in their
last four games. That's a lot of sacks. 17 sacks allowed by the Redskins in their last four games.
Jeez, that's a lot of sacks.
Tampa Bay is at Atlanta.
Here's your stat of the game.
11 wide receivers have had 82 or more yards against the Bucs.
16 have had 70 or more yards.
That's quite a floor.
That's pathetic.
So, obviously, Julio's a go.
Where is Calvin Ridley for you?
Top 10 receiver.
Woo!
You start him over Kenny Galladay?
Yep.
Top 10.
All right.
So Matt Ryan's your start of the week.
He's a top three quarterback, I think, for everyone.
We don't need to get into the numbers.
The Bucs are terrible.
So it's been a rough go for him.
It's been three straight games where he's been 18 or fewer fantasy points.
One, he got hurt, but he still threw 27 passes.
But last week, Russell Gage dropped that touchdown
and kind of jobbed him out of six points.
So get Matt Ryan back in your lineup.
Start him over just about everyone.
Brian Hill, you said flex earlier.
I think it's just a tough matchup in terms of what the fantasy points allowed are.
I would not be surprised if they start to use
Kaji Allison maybe a little bit more.
And then he didn't really work in the passing game.
So I was discouraged by that last week.
But you do like him better, as I recall,
than Ronald Jones, right? Just barely.
Back to back in your rankings.
Okay. So those guys
are outside the top 24. We don't love the running backs.
We love the wide receivers. Those two wide
receivers on each team are absolute must-starts this week.
Matt Ryan's the start of the week.
Jameis Winston, we said, we laid it out.
He's got an opportunity with his passing volume,
with his history against the Falcons,
with what they had been for their first eight games.
It looks great for Jameis.
But he throws a bunch of picks,
and the Falcons' defense has been really good since their bye.
So where is he compared to the Carr- Darnold, Driscoll group?
I go Carr, Winston, Driscoll, Darnold.
Okay.
And you have, I like this 9, 10, 11 of Prescott, Jameis, Brady right there.
Is it fair to say Winston is the most upside of these
quarterbacks?
Because if Matt Ryan's your star of the week,
that means he's going to need a throw.
Carr is
facing a team that's just been
miserable against quarterbacks of late.
Driscoll's facing a team that just gave up
33 fantasy points to Darnold.
Darnold's facing a team that's allowed nearly 25 points per game for the season.
So they're all kind of the same.
Is there a tight end you like in this game?
What was the guy?
Something Graham on the Falcons last week.
His name is kind of like Jimmy Graham.
But no, we don't like the tight ends.
Jaden Graham?
Yeah, I think that's what it was.
Jaden.
All right, so sit the tight ends in this game.
Falcons, DST is a go this week, right?
A start?
I mean, you're basically...
There's two things with the Falcons defense.
They played much better late, and then James.
We'll see if it's real.
I'm skeptical.
I'm skeptical about the Raiders defense for sure.
I'm also skeptical about the Falcons.
It's two years in a row of them being horrible with all these injuries.
It's not just this year.
So I think they probably are not good.
You have their DST 9th.
Heath has them 17th.
Dave has them 9th.
Try to get the Lions.
Say that.
Carolina at New Orleans interesting game here
Curtis Samuel he has
six to eight targets in all but three games
there have been nine wide receivers with six
to eight targets against the Saints and only
Chris Godwin has done well
and he had 47 yards in a touchdown
now not expecting Marshawn Lattimore
but it has not been a good
matchup for wide receivers so I know you said start
DJ Moore but you said sit
Curtis Samuel, right? I would try and sit
Samuel if you can,
but he's in that boomer
bust number three wide receiver range.
Why do you like DJ Moore so much?
He's got 95 receiving
yards or more in three straight games.
I'd find it hard to get away from
somebody like that. Targets have been up for him.
It's just the touchdowns that are missing. Hopefully at some point
we find him in the end zone a couple times.
Heath's bold prediction last week on our
FFT show on Sunday was
that he was going to go for a buck 50-2.
It's coming. At some point
we're going to get that big game from DJ Moore and it could happen
this week with Marcus Lattimore still not expected to play.
McCaffrey and Kamara are must starts.
Kamara doing a little bit better. I think he's scoring
this week. He's going to get in that must starts. Kamara doing a little bit better. I think he's scoring this week.
He's going to get in that end zone.
Latavius Murray, Jamie.
Look, he had 10 carries last week.
And that's not a bad number against the Saints,
against the Panthers, rather.
It gives you an opportunity.
So, you know, in the number two to flex running back range
of Jamal Williams and Royce Freeman and all those guys,
where's Latavius Murray?
He's right there with them. You know, it's just a matter of his numbers have been so bad. of Jamal Williams and Royce Freeman and all those guys. Where's Latavius Murray?
He's right there with them.
It's just a matter of his numbers have been so bad.
His touches have been so bad with Malvin Kamara on the field.
And so you're counting on him to find the end zone.
But I think he's going to get
in the neighborhood of 10 to 15 total touches once again.
I think the Saints are playing with the lead late in the game,
so maybe they give him some extra work.
But I think this game is all about Alvin Kamara.
So it's really more of a desperation play
to play Latavius Murray at this point.
Okay. So
would you start like
Brandon Cooks or Latavius Murray?
Yeah, I think I'd still
probably go with Brandon Cooks, just with the chance of
the big play, but
I would not be surprised if Latavius Murray
scores as well, just because the
Panthers are so bad against the run.
Alright, cool.
I think that's it. Greg Olson.
Oh, Greg Olson and Jared Cook. I'm sorry.
I completely neglected the tight ends.
Obviously, you're starting Michael Thomas. Before the tight ends,
any interest in Ted Ginn?
Not really. I mean, he scored last week, but
I just think it's going to be tough for him.
The one thing you get is you get the revenge game,
but he's played them so many times since he's left there.
It's not clear if the Saints
are good against tight ends because the two good ones they
faced, Disley and Hooper, both scored.
Cameron Bray just had 10 catches on
14 targets for 73 yards.
Greg Olson's been on a nice little run here.
He had 98 yards last week
or was that two weeks ago?
But what do you think?
Starter sick Greg Olson and Jared Cook
I think is top five, right?
I mean, he's got to keep rolling with him.
Cook has become a must play.
You know, you go back now
it's four good games
in a row for him.
He had the two games
where he scored
with Teddy Bridgewater
then he missed a couple of games
then they had their bye week.
He comes back off their bye
with Drew Brees.
I'm sorry, he had the one game
with Brees where he had
six for 74
then they go their bye week
come off their bye week
he scores touchdown again.
So I think he's just becoming
consistent enough with his targets and his production
that you're starting him. Olsen, I think, is also
worth starting, but it's not as much of a guarantee.
He's taking advantage of some good
matchups of late, but still you're trusting Kyle Allen
to get multiple targets involved and play well,
and I just don't know how much you want to trust that in New Orleans.
So
the streamers, like which
streamers are you starting over greg olson
i would start ryan griffin over him for sure uh maybe dallas got it as well after that it's
probably about it okay uh yeah i mean with cook this is a much tougher matchup although yeah i
again i don't know how good carolina is they just haven't faced that many good
tight ends so all right just start him up.
I'm just saying from a DFS standpoint,
I'm probably avoiding him.
Saints DST is top five.
And finally, the Bears are hosting the Giants.
Your stat of the game.
Well, we gave it already.
Running back has scored 14 or more fantasy points
in non-PPR in five of seven games
that Akeem Hicks either didn't play
or got hurt hurt fairly early.
So Barkley, he's a start. Let's bounce back.
He's also been very involved in the passing game.
Talk to me about the Giants' wide receivers,
both with and without Sterling Shepard.
If Shepard plays, then I think both Tate and Shepard
are number three receivers, better in PPR than non-PPR.
If Shepard is out, Golden Tate's a low-end number two guy,
worth starting certainly in PPR more so than non-PPR.
Okay, and how would you go...
Sorry, to bring it up again.
Well, Evan Ingram we're not expecting to play.
If he does play, would you start Evan Ingram?
I would start Evan Ingram if he plays, but I don't think he's going to play.
Yeah, and Red Ellison isn't going to play either.
So that's killing Daniel Jones, am I right?
Okay, let's go to the Bears.
No interest in Trubisky even in this matchup?
I don't think so.
Two quarterbacks, super flex.
Maybe you want to take a shot at DFS.
Hopefully this is a game to get his confidence back going
because I can see that happening, but it's just so risky. And look, if
he is hurt, there's a chance of re-injury.
If he stinks early, will they pull him for Chase Daniel?
There's just a lot at play here with him.
So you like
Tariq Cohen better than
Montgomery in PPR, right?
Yeah, I like
Tariq Cohen better in PPR than
non-PPR, but Montgomery better in both.
Oh, you like Montgomery better in both. Okay, I'm sorry.
I mean, you look at the Giants,
just teams run all over them.
We're talking 20 carries or more.
Dalvin Cook, Sonny Michel, Chase Edmonds,
not a Detroit running back.
Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell had 18.
So it's five of the last six games
the running back has 18 or more carries against the Giants.
And they're just not good.
If Montgomery gets 18
carries, it could be a sneaky play this week.
Would you start David Montgomery
or Phillip Lindsey?
I love Phillip Lindsey this week, so Lindsey
by far. Would you start David Montgomery
or Kareem Hunt?
That's an interesting one.
I would start David Montgomery
in non-PPR and Hunt in PPR.
How about Tariq Cohen or Kareem Hunt?
Kareem Hunt.
Okay.
And like we said, the Giants have been good against pass-catching running backs.
I'm not sure we buy it.
James White had nine catches.
Dalvin Cook had six for 86.
Chris Thompson had four for 56.
It's surprisingly good.
This could be the first week the Giants
give up a touchdown in the air to a
running back. We shall see. Alan Robinson
or Kenny Galladay?
I'd go Galladay
and non-PPR Robinson
and PPR. Okay, so you really like Alan Robinson.
I do. I think it's going to be a bounce-back
game for him. Escaping Jalen Ramsey is going to be big for him.
Yeah, that is pretty nice. And finally, you got Taylor Gabriel, you got Anthony Miller. I like Hunter Renfro. I like Russell Gage as streamers this week. How do
you like the Bears guys compared to them? I like Gabriel ahead of them, but I think they're all
in that conversation. But Gabriel, nine or more PPR points in four straight games.
You know, you could say that last week was a byproduct of all the targets that he got
was because they were shying away from throwing at Ramsey.
But, you know, I think if you just look at it,
there could be a nice floor here of nine PPR points with a ceiling of about 12 to 15.
So he's a good number three receiver to trust this week.
Cool.
All right, Jamie, I think we're done here.
Bears DST we like.
They are top four.
So I think the Bears are going to win.
How about that?
It's going to be a crappy game.
There are a lot of good games this week.
Don't watch the Giants and the Bears.
It's not on CBS.
For Jamie, I'm Adam.
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