Fantasy Football Today - 11/26: Waiver Wire - Another Loaded Week! Also, Lamar Jackson! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 26, 2019

Yeah yeah yeah the Waiver Wire is important but HOLY COW LAMAR JACKSON IS AMAZING! We start the show by discussing his 2020 value. Is he a first round pick? Is he the #1 overall pick? Also let's compa...re his last 3 games to Jared Goff's last 3 games. Then we'll talk about the top Waiver Wire priorities (7:05) including Jonathan Williams, Ryan Tannehill, Sam Darnold, Jack Doyle, Dede Westbrook, Andy Dalton, the Eagles DST and many more ... A look at the key injuries that could affect the Waiver Wire (19:50). Then we talk QBs (25:45) like Darnold and Nick Foles, plus other options that could be sneaky good this week. And before we move on to other positions we make sure to tell you our Waiver Wire priorities at every position this week (34:10) ... RBs (41:50) including Bo Scarbrough, Benny Snell and Rashaad Penny, WRs (47:50) including Sterling Shepard and Cole Beasley, TEs (55:40) including Ryan Griffin, Gerald Everett, Jacob Hollister and Doyle. Plus DSTs, Kickers and IDP. And we finish the show with players to drop (1:00:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Let's hit the waiver wire. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. Well, this is a waiver wire show, but how do you not lead with LeVar Jackson?
Starting point is 00:00:24 Whoa! He is just incredible. Welcome to the Tuesday edition of Fantasy Football Today. A lot of guys to pick up this week. Some really good quarterback matchups. Sam Darnold, Ryan Tannehill doesn't necessarily have a great matchup, but he's Ryan Tannehill. Does it even matter? Nick Foles does have a great matchup. Yeah, I know, I know. And we'll talk about running backs, wide receivers, tight ends. Jack Doyle could get a big bump in targets now. Sterling Shepard, Darius Slayton could get a big bump in targets. Everything you need to know for the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Good morning, Dave and Jamie. Lamar Jackson, OMG. Oh, yeah. He's outstanding. And every time I watch him play, I think how incredible he is. And I think about how dumb I feel for saying, well, you better watch out. He might not stay healthy. I don't know how good of a thrower he is and i think about how dumb i feel for saying well you better watch out you might not say healthy i don't know how good of a thrower he is and uh those were words that i actually said in july and august and feel like a total heel about it and uh at the same time
Starting point is 00:01:16 i have lamar jackson in a league where it was an auction league i tried to bid him up so you would bid three so heath would bid three neither of you bid three. Neither of you bid three. I got them at two. I'm going to the playoffs. I got Lamar Jackson as my quarterback in that league. That's the case with most quarterbacks that aren't ranked in the top two or three in any auction league, I think, in most leagues.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I posted a poll last night. Would you draft Lamar Jackson first overall next year? Almost 8,000 votes. What do you think the results are, Adam? Well, I actually saw it, and it inspired me to do a different Twitter poll. But I'll let Dan guess. I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, I haven't seen this poll.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I'm going to say I'm going to have some faith in our audience in that only a third of them said they would take him in the first round. Yep, 33% said yes, 67% said no. So at least I got that right about Lamar Jackson. All right, now I'm on the right track. When should Lamar Jackson be drafted next season? I did it this morning, so only 1,500 votes. Top six pick, pick seven through 12 of round one,
Starting point is 00:02:18 round two, or round three or later. I am stunned that 30% said round three or later. I am stunned that 30% said round three or later for Lamar Jackson. 37% said round two. 16% said top six pick, and 18% said round one pick seven through 12, which is kind of what I thought would win. And honestly, I think he's a first round pick for me. That's crazy because I know none of us ever pick quarterbacks that early, but he's just so good. Now, he's averaging right now in a six-point-per-passing touchdown league basically exactly what or very close to what Mahomes averaged last year, and it's so hard to repeat.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And we could talk about this for five minutes, so we'll save it for a different show so we can get to the waiver wire but um i just think it's amazing what he's doing and where we did want to see how people valued him i was surprised that 30 people said round three or later he's not going to make it that long but how about no no he'll be drafted in the first round on average next year i mean my homes was so in their last and three games sorry dave their last three games six point per passing touchdown leagues last three games, six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, Lamar Jackson has scored 122 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Jared Goff has scored 11 fantasy points. That's amazing. That is so awesome. One of those guys has a $100 million contract. Yeah, yeah. One's going to break the bank. Yeah, one's going to have a $200 million bank yeah the dst for the ravens was only started in 66 percent of leagues it's almost universally owned five huge games in a row
Starting point is 00:03:53 at seattle new england at cincinnati houston and at the rams four good offense well i don't know about the rams but you know that they been unstoppable. This team right now is clearly, if not the best, one of the best. And damn, can we flex their game on Sunday against the 49ers? Yeah, no, they can't, unfortunately. It's probably the best game of the season right now. You look at this. First off, Lamar Jackson won the MVP last night because Russell Wilson, while he won the game, he didn't play very well
Starting point is 00:04:27 against the Eagles. Unless there's just a total collapse from Lamar Jackson down the stretch. He's the MVP of the NFL. The big turnaround for this team has been the defense. The trade to get Marcus Peters and getting Jimmy Smith back and just what that secondary looks like now.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It's going to be fun to see if they can get home field advantage, because if not going into Foxborough for the AFC championship game, that's how it works out. You probably still give the edge to the Patriots, but you can't look at any team in comparison to the Ravens right now and say that there's a better team. San Francisco has been fantastic. You know, you could still make the case for New England and that defense, but I mean, with what this team looks like on both sides of the ball, it's just unbelievable how they've, uh, how they've come on of late and they're, they're hitting their stride. If, if they stay healthy, no one's beating them. Yeah. It's over. No one, no one's me. And they're going to destroy San Francisco this week. Uh,
Starting point is 00:05:21 there, no one's got the answer for how to solve this offense. And it's hard to solve it because they're just fundamentally so good running the ball and scheming up passes for Jackson. I'd love to just see Bill Belichick get another crack at them. That game would be in Foxborough. And if Julian Edelman doesn't fumble that ball, the Patriots had a chance to go in there and win. You're assuming it's in Foxborough. It's in Foxborough right now. It's in Foxborough right now.
Starting point is 00:05:45 It's in Foxborough right now. So, yeah, you never know. They still have some tough games left, these Patriots. I would just hope that in their playoff run, the Ravens will get a first-round bye, and then hopefully they play Mahomes, and then hopefully they play the Patriots, and Roger Goodell is going to be swimming in a bed of money
Starting point is 00:06:03 because this is just going to be a ratings bonanza. Well, even if it's Chiefs-Patriots, you win that way too. Yeah, well, that was pretty good. He tweeted something. Can we just get to the Final Four and see Jackson, Brady, Mahomes, and Watson? And I said you spelled Tannehill wrong. All right, speaking of Tannehill, let's get to the waiver wire priorities. By the way,
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Starting point is 00:07:06 Top priorities. Who are they? Who are the top priorities this week, guys, on waivers? It's an interesting week of players that are still available just on the cusp of the guys that we typically talk about. So Jonathan Williams,
Starting point is 00:07:17 if he's still out there, you have to go pick him up. And clearly we saw last week what he's capable of doing as the Marlon Mack replacement. And Mack has already been ruled out for week 13. If you're just talking about running backs, I think you've got to pick up Rashad Penny
Starting point is 00:07:28 and just see what happens there after Chris Carson fumbled again. Penny had his breakout game of this season, and you know how Pete Carroll is. He's going to make it an open competition for this week, and we'll see if Penny sort of pushes Carson to the side a little bit. I'd be surprised if that happens, but still you want to have Penny on your roster. And then there's just a slew of receivers that can be starters for you this week. They're better off as number three guys,
Starting point is 00:07:52 but, you know, D.D. Westbrook and the way that he's been playing, certainly his targets, obviously the two guys for the Giants with Golden Tate not being there. You know, Cole Beasley has certainly played well and has a good opportunity. A.J. Brown and just the way that Ryan Tandell
Starting point is 00:08:04 has thrown the ball. So there's. Brown and just the way that Ryan Tannehill is throwing the ball. So there's a lot of good mid-range options. The two running backs I think at the top are probably the two you want to gravitate toward. And then there's obviously the quarterbacks and Sam Darnold and Ryan Tannehill. And I think Darnold right now might be the start of the week for week number 13. He should be. Awesome matchup for him and he's been playing great. What about Jack Doyle at tight end?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Is he a priority? He's a priority. He's not my favorite tight end because Ryan Griffin is still available. But, you know, you're still talking about a team. We had this conversation yesterday. They don't throw the ball so much. And I think if you're looking at it,
Starting point is 00:08:38 and the guy's in the same range, I would rather have Gerald Everett for the one-week situation against the Cardinals than Jack Doyle maybe for the next few weeks. I'd just stream like if that if and i mean that just if i can only pick up one of the two right i take the shot on the cardinals matchup versus the potential long-term appeal but i think he's going to be fine i think he's got top 10 i agree ability rest away right but the volume is just not there for this team and i think that's the concern is is he going to see enough targets to be consistently successful?
Starting point is 00:09:06 I like him as the top tight end to go get. I've been on Ryan Griffin for a couple of weeks now, but Doyle has this great opportunity with Eric Ebron gone to be the main tight end there. And if you're tired of streaming, he's a tight end that theoretically should be your starter the rest of the way. Yeah, Jack Doyle, a couple of years ago,
Starting point is 00:09:23 before they got Eric Ebron, was a top 10 tight end, and he was second in the NFL in catches. And in his career, he catches 75%, right about 75% of his targets. He's just very good at that. His catch rate's really good. So he should be better in PPR. But the other thing to factor in here
Starting point is 00:09:40 is that in the red zone, Eric Ebron leads the team in red zone targets if you missed it by the way eric ebron is out for the season he's on ir so jack doyle 56 own i think this actually i'm hoping this is going to benefit ty hilton get a little bit more red zone work there but uh they're going to have to throw ebron's a touchdown guy so they're gonna have to throw more to some other guys there and maybe it's jack doyle who is facing tennessee and they've allowed the seventh most fantasy points to tight ends this year you know they faced hooper kelsey and hunter henry so that's contributed to it and then the next week doyle's got tampa bay and they've allowed the second most fantasy points to tight end so he's got good matchups ryan griffin
Starting point is 00:10:19 does too you can go after those guys jamie mentioned d.D. Westbrook. The Buccaneers have allowed either 70 or more yards to multiple wide receivers or a touchdown catch to multiple wide receivers in every game since week one. So week one they didn't. Every game since then, two wide receivers have either had 70 yards or a touchdown. That's incredible. And we'll talk about the Giants, guys. I don't think you mentioned Benny Snell. How does he compare with Jonathan Williams
Starting point is 00:10:48 and Rashad Penny? So I would put him as the third running back to pick up. James Conner doesn't sound like he's going to come back. But you're probably looking at... Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean? He doesn't say that?
Starting point is 00:11:00 This week. Right. This week. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. This week. So I think you're looking at it as it's pretty clear that they've wanted to use a lead rusher in conjunction with Jalen Samuels.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And obviously, as we saw last week, Jalen Samuels was a little bit of a non-factor. You brought this up, Adam, I think it was either on the radio show or one of our shows last week about Kareth White. And he played a role. So there's going to be three guys potentially touching the ball so i think that limits the upside for snell but as long as james connor is out and again that's the expectation for this week you're probably looking at 15 carries and in an offense is going to try and be as conservative as possible uh and and let their defense and you know kicking game probably win the game um i don't think it's a it's a bad
Starting point is 00:11:42 idea to pick up snell but i would i would certainly put him behind williams and penny i'd put him behind williams but not penny uh we can get into this now or later adam it's up to you yeah let's do it so so it's kind of interesting because you know especially if you're talking about fab i don't know how relevant a fab conversation is right now if you got to win to get in the playoffs you got to spend it but i'm just worried that rashad penny is going to be a waste because i understand my goodness if he does just get the job you could be talking about a top five to ten running back but if he doesn't that's that's that's the if they're using both taking a chance on and i feel like i feel like we've fallen for the rashad penny trap at least twice already in his career and every time we fall for it, oh, here's this guy. He's got great talent. Look, he just made a great play.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Chris Carson ends up roaring back and playing well. I get that they're going to use Penny more. They're saying it now. But as soon as he gets in there and he's got six or seven carries and they go for under four yards per carry, it's going to be right back to Chris Carson.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I don't know how much patience they have for Penny at this point. He's been good. Carson fumbles again. He may not see the field. I know, but at the same time, you pick up Rashad Penny.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Carson has been fumbling like every other game all season long, and he continues to see a lot. Well, Penny, Penny had the injury concern, you know, during the season. So I think the fact that he had the big game in,
Starting point is 00:12:57 in at the same point of Carson having yet another fumble. And so you're, you're talking about Benny Snell may be good for this week. And, and maybe, uh, is, is the better play week and maybe is the better play for this week. But if Rashad Penny takes over, he's a league winner. And so it just depends, I think, what you need for your fantasy team. If Penny is the lead guy for the Seahawks because Chris Carson can't hold on to the football, they're going to bench Chris Carson and lean on Rashad Penny.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And this is a much better offense and he's a much better talent than Benny Snell. So I'd rather take my chances on the guy who could be a league winner as opposed to a guy that's just a plug-in player for this week. So it just comes down to what you need. If I've got Chris Carson, obviously. Penny goes ahead of Jonathan Williams, practically, because you want to go and get that guy on your team.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And I think you said it best. If you need a running back this week, Snell's the answer. I would take Snell ahead of Penny if I'm choosing between the two of them. So you take Snell ahead of Penny. Okay, but let's get this out there. Hold on. I should say this. If I don't need a running back this week and I'm headed toward the playoffs
Starting point is 00:13:59 and got that roster spot open at the end of my bench, sure, you speculate on Penny and you spend the fab to do it. Right. I like Snell better in week 13. You don't necessarily, if you're picking up Rashad Penny, you don't pick him up to start him this week. Let's be clear, right?
Starting point is 00:14:16 You pick him up to stash him and see what happens. Well, unless we get reports that he's going to be the lead guy. If that's the case, then he's better than Jonathan Williams. Right. Now, Jonathan Williams... I don't think we're going to hear that. Let's say all these running backs, four running backs,
Starting point is 00:14:31 are on waivers. Both Scarborough, Jonathan Williams, Benny Snell, and Rashad Penny. How would you prioritize them? Let's just put this out there. Williams is one by far. There's nobody close. Again, it comes down to what you need. If you need somebody for this week, I would say Scarborough should be second, Snell
Starting point is 00:14:51 third, and Penny fourth. I agree. And if you're looking long-term, I think it's Williams still ahead of Scarborough and Penny ahead of Snell. If it's strictly long-term, you don't have to have a running back immediately. Do you fear with Jonathan Williams that Jordan Wilkins could get more work because he was only used on special teams last week? Plus, he's got Tennessee this week, then Tampa Bay and New Orleans. We know that those are tough matchups and you've got more of the Mac maybe coming back. Are there any concerns? There's Jonathan Williams, a lead running back. He's 60% own and he absolutely needs to be owned at all leagues.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I think he proved in the, in the game last week that he's their main back. I think if he had struggled, then maybe you would have seen more of Jordan Wilkins, but the fact that they gave him as much work as he got, you know, that they didn't even give Wilkins an opportunity to touch the ball just to sort of take the load off of,
Starting point is 00:15:43 of Williams. I mean, this is what this team is. This is my concern Williams. I mean, this is what this team is. This is my concern with Doyle is that this is what this team is. They're just going to be ultra conservative and try and run the ball as much as they can. And they're not trusting Jacoby Brissett to make a lot of plays. And so, you know, if you're talking about a running back, you know, I forget what the amount of carries they had against Jacksonville, but it was, you know, almost 30. And then you come back the next week and you have over 30 carries.
Starting point is 00:16:06 That just shows you what this offense is. Three straight games for Brissette, throwing 24 or 25 passes, not including the game in which he got hurt. So Jonathan Williams is a major priority. Sam Darnold's going to be a major priority. Nick Foles has a great matchup. Brian Tannehill's been awesome. And let's see what else we got here.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Fab, I don't know. Again, I'm not sure how much we're talking about. Every scenario is different. If this is it for you, you're 6-6, and this is the win that gets you in the playoffs, who cares? Spend it all, and then you just sort of figure it out. Obviously, if you have $0 bids, that's a different story.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Excuse me, if you don't have $0 bids. But I think you're just talking about you got to win and and so you don't get to take it with you spend yeah uh just so everyone knows i don't know how much time we're going to spend on the sunday night and monday night games i'd like to talk about them but this is such an important waiver wire week and i want to look ahead to other weeks as well so let me just give a few more priorities that need to be said just in case I forget, as I often do. Austin Hooper and Evan Ingram are mostly owned, but they could
Starting point is 00:17:10 be available in your leagues. They're about 88% owned. Hooper, is there a chance Hooper plays this week? It's a Thursday game. It doesn't sound like it. I think had they won and see if they could play out the string and win out, not that they were going to make the playoffs, but that might have changed some things.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But the fact that they said last week that he could have practiced on Thursday, this was at the beginning of last week, I'm going to guess that he's not far away from playing. But the Thursday game just doesn't help. And Evan Ingram has pretty good matchups going forward as well, so you might want to pick him up. I think the Eagles DST talked about this on yesterday's show. If you didn't listen to yesterday's show,
Starting point is 00:17:46 you should at least check out what Dr. David Chow had to say. I asked him about Tua Tagovailoa. I asked him about injury-prone players. We had really good injury conversations. And then me, Will, and Chris Towers, or Will, Chris Towers, and I, we talked about DSTs that could help you win right now and throughout the playoffs. The Eagles are playing great,
Starting point is 00:18:03 and they've got the Dolphins, Giants, and Redskins in their next three games. So that's a big priority as well. The Jets DST is playing really well and they've got good matchups coming up, at least in their next two games. But the Eagles DST, for me at least, will be a DST I'm prioritizing if I don't love my defense. And it's also a good time to get your handcuffs. It's also a good time to get ButcherBox, all right? This is great stuff. ButcherBox, I was talking about it over the weekend at Friendsgiving. It would have been great for Friendsgiving, by the way.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Talking about it over the weekend. Oh, what's ButcherBox? Well, look, if you are someone who's interested in having sort of healthier meat with no antibiotics, no added hormones, humanely raised. This is important, high quality stuff. This is really something that's important to me and I have trouble finding it at the grocery store. Well, ButcherBox is a solution to that. If you go to butcherbox.com slash FFT or you use the promo code FFT at checkout, you're going to get a great deal, a Black Friday deal. Your first box comes with ButcherBox's Ultimate Steak Sampler. That is eight free steaks, two fillets, two top sirloins,
Starting point is 00:19:14 and two New York strip steaks, and $20 off your first box. ButcherBox.com slash FFT or use the code FFT at checkout. I've gotten the delivery before. This big box of meat. It's absolutely delicious. They have free range chicken. They've got all different types of stuff. It's 100% grass fed and finished beef, free range organic chicken, I should say.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Heritage pork, wild caught Alaskan salmon, sugar, nitrate free bacon. It's just great stuff. It's delicious. So go to butcherbox.com slash FFT or enter FFT at checkout. And again, get $20 off your first box and get eight free steaks. ButcherBox.com slash FFT or FFT at checkout. Man, a lot of stuff going on here. Let's take a look at the key injuries that we need to know about. I'll try to go through these as quickly as possible.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Andy Dalton's going to start for the Bengals. He's an option against the Jets this week, right? Andy Dalton, he really wasn't that bad before he got benched, at least for fantasy purposes. A hundred percent. He's an option in DFS, too, because his price is super cheap. He won't have to do much to give you good value. So if you like a lot of players at running back and wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:20:19 Andy Dalton should be your quarterback. Yeah, 20 plus fantasy points in three of his last four starts before getting benched in the Jets, I know they did well last week against Derek Carr, but they've just been awful in their previous five games. Their defense is playing better. Their secondary is playing better. But the hope would be is that
Starting point is 00:20:35 all of a sudden, AJ Green's ankle feels better because his buddy is back playing again. It's a fun little scenario to play out if, in fact, Green comes back. That would hurt the Jets' DST for this week, obviously. I think it scenario to play out if, in fact, Green comes back. That would hurt the Jets' DST for this week, obviously. I think it hurts to begin with if Dalton's playing. I had the Jets' top
Starting point is 00:20:53 five before this move, so now they're just outside my top 12. I did look. The Bengals were a good matchup, even with Andy Dalton playing. Devlin Hodges is probably going to start for Pittsburgh. Haven't heard an official announcement there. Drew Locke could start for Denver.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Carson Wentz has a bruised hand. No big deal. Dwayne Haskins played through a wrist injury. No big deal. Asked Dr. Chow about those yesterday. We won't get Marlon Mack this week. James Conner unlikely to play. Matt LaFleur said he needs to get the ball to Aaron Jones more.
Starting point is 00:21:23 LaShawn McCoy is out of the concussion protocol. Do we know if Damian Williams will be ready for this week? They didn't say anything yesterday. Andy Reid didn't say anything yesterday. I didn't see anything reported, but it's probably a good thing. You know, they're typically when Reid first meets with the media, he usually goes through the injury list. And so the fact that I don't think anything was reported about Williams is a good sign.
Starting point is 00:21:43 You know, he left his last game with a rib injury, but they also had their bite. It seemed like they were just going to, I think, be cautious with any of their injuries, given the setup in Mexico City. Tyreek Hill seemed like he could have come back in with the hamstring problem. And Williams, you know, again, not knowing the severity of it. Hopefully he's fine, but I think it's still worth investing in McCoy or Darrell Williams just in case. Because if we don't hear anything on Tuesday, that's somebody that could be a league winner for you
Starting point is 00:22:07 as we saw in that game against Chargers. Both running backs were successful. Okay, so let's see what else we got on running back. And that's the thing with the Chiefs. If you see LaShawn McCoy out there and you knew Damian Williams was out, same with Darrell Williams, they'd probably be must-add
Starting point is 00:22:24 guys. But we just don't know right now. hopefully we get an update before you have to make your waiver claims uh Jordan Howard's day-to-day with a shoulder injury still don't know if he'll be back shoulder right yeah that's what I said right shoulder right yeah right sure shoulder sure what do you mean it's a stinger that's a shoulder shoulder, isn't it? Or is that a neck? Yeah, I mean, technically, yeah. Sure. They're pretty close, right? Shoulder, neck. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Chase Edmonds expected to play. Kalen Balazs is going to continue to start for Miami. That's great news. Devontae Freeman, Dr. Chow, is not super optimistic. That's pretty much it for the noteworthy running backs at wide receiver Julio Jones does have a shoulder injury you got to keep that in mind they have a short week Andy Reid optimistic about Tyreek Hill
Starting point is 00:23:11 AJ Green's day to day Golden Tate is in the concussion protocol Hunter Renfro will be out for a while with a broken rib he might and a punctured lung he might be out for the season does that make it easier to drop Derek Carr yeah yeah I mean the schedules you know the make it easier to drop Derek Carr? Yeah, yeah. I mean, the schedule is, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:26 the stretch of good games for Derek Carr ended against the Jets, and it ended before the Jets game, apparently, because he didn't play well in that matchup. Hopefully this helps Darren Waller's value rebound a little bit. That's a good point. Yep, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And Tyrell Williams. Tyrell Williams has not had a red zone target since he came back from the injury. He had six in his first four games. He has not had one Tyrell Williams in his last five games. I find that to be amazing. A lot of them have gone to Hunter Renfro, so that could help
Starting point is 00:23:52 Tyrell as well. Jordan Matthews, released by the Eagles. He actually played 96% of the snaps last week. Maybe that means Alshon Jeffrey or Aguilar could be coming back at Miami. Juju, expecting him? What do you think? It's hard to say at this point.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You know, I would hope. I wonder if the knee is worse than probably the concussion. Just because, you know, Deontay Johnson was able to clear the concussion protocol. You hope that Juju does as well. And then we'll see if the knee is a problem. The fact that he was in a knee brace last week is not a good sign. Okay, Adam Thielen, what do we think? Any idea?
Starting point is 00:24:27 I'm going to guess he comes back, but it's one that you want to keep an eye on because if you're looking at the tight ends, Kyle Rudolph has been awesome without Thielen on the field. Could he still be good with Thielen back? Maybe, but just the way the season has unfolded, Rudolph was terrible before Thielen started getting banged up in that game against Detroit,
Starting point is 00:24:43 and then since then, he's just been basically a must-start tight end. We haven't been treating him that way, but the performance has spoken to that. And... Okay, that's... Oh, Cortland Sutton I see with an ankle injury. Is that just a day-to-day thing? I think it's day-to-day.
Starting point is 00:25:00 He might not even practice on Wednesday because of it, but he should be... We're expecting him to play. He didn't finish the game against Buffalo, so just keep an eye on him. He's probably just discouraged. He had like one or two catches on eight targets. He's John Brown circa 2018.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Oh, geez. Well, this was his first really bad game for Courtland Sutton. No, no, no. He just misses Joe Flacco. Oh, okay. I see. David Ajoku status uncertain for this week. And Delaney Walker, same thing.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Jacob Hollister has a foot issue, but we expect him to play as of now. And that's going to be it for the injuries. So let's talk about the waiver wire here. And usually we do priorities now and go deeper later. Let's just do it all. Let's just do the waiver wire and start with quarterbacks. So what do we got, Jamie? Who are the top quarterbacks?
Starting point is 00:25:49 I think there's probably, I could say, three to four pretty exciting options on waivers. What do you think? I think there's two exciting options. I think there's four potential starters for you. But the two exciting options, I mean, Sam Darnold, we said for weeks, look at the schedule, look at the opportunities in front of him. And the Dolphins game should have been better, obviously, with the Ryan Griffin touchdown that he didn't get.
Starting point is 00:26:10 But then since then, at least 23 or more fantasy points against Washington, the Giants and Oakland, with the last two being fantastic performances. And he still has some good games in front of him, you know, this week and then Miami again. So there's a chance for him to be. I haven't ranked in my top five. You know, I think there's a, there's a lot of upside for Sam Darnold. And so hopefully he takes advantage of the game against Cincinnati. Ryan Tannehill has just been a monster. He said yesterday, I didn't go back and double check this, but I'm assuming it's right. That since he's taken over as a starter, the last five games, there's only one fantasy quarterback better than him.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And that's Lamar Jackson. So that five game stretch stretch he's just been a star and it's not an easy matchup you said this but the last two quarterbacks that the uh colts have faced have each scored 21 or more points so i i think he has an opportunity to keep it going and then you know dalton foals um good matchups and will they will they take advantage of it uh did tampa bay's defense turn the corner last week oh no no um i agree with you i agree with you but you know they they did a good job against matt ryan and the falcons and you know just reading some things you know sometimes addition by subtraction you know getting rid of vernon hargraves they feel like some of the younger you know players in the secondary have stepped up a little bit so we'll see uh foals obviously has not played well so
Starting point is 00:27:23 that's what you have to sort of gauge that with is can he have success this week in what should be a good situation for him? That's what you sort of have to hope for if you trust him. Yeah, and for the Jaguars, they've been blowing out three straight games. They're playing horribly,
Starting point is 00:27:40 and Jacksonville quarterbacks have thrown 47 to 48 passes, 47 or 48 passes in three straight games. It's Foles twice and Minshew once. And only one of those has been good. And good being 21 points. Right. Minshew was bad. Definitely not by design.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It's just the way that the games have gone for Jacksonville. Yeah. You know, Doug Marone basically had to say that Nick Foles is still a starter. You wonder if he has another bad first half. Do they bench him for Minshew? It's just such a juicy matchup. I mean, so you said you have Darnold top five.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Where do you have Nick Foles this week? Foles top 15-ish inside the top 20. I don't love the setup for him despite the good matchup. I'm starting Wentz ahead of Nick Foles this week. Oh, I'm starting Wentz ahead of Nick Foles this week. Oh, I'm starting Wentz ahead of Deshaun Watson this week. Good Lord. Deshaun Watson's got the Patriots. Wentz is at the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I know. You still start Deshaun Watson. Well, I don't know. Do you? I mean, you still start Dak Prescott, right? You know, like, of course, the conditions will be better. Yeah, I mean, Wentz, do you need, and this is, you know, this is a relevant conversation for drops.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'm expecting Alshon to be back. That's conversation for— I'm expecting Alshon to be back. That's the thing. I'm expecting Alshon to be back. Yeah. I mean, the fact that he was close last week and that they just made the move to cut Jordan Matthews, I think that tells you that one of them will be back, and most likely it's going to be Alshon and potentially both. So even without Alshon, though, I think Carson Wentz has 25 points on the table. I don't think Deshaun Watson is going to get there.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Guys, other than Darnold, when we look at Dalton, we look at Tannehill, Dalton, and Foles. And Dave, are those the other, you know, if you had a top four, would it also be Darnold, Tannehill, Dalton, Foles? My top four among quarterbacks involve those guys.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Darnold, Tannehill, Foles, Dalton. Okay. How many of them are you starting ahead of, let's say, Dak Prescott and Josh Allen, who face each other on Thanksgiving? The only one I'm starting ahead of Dak is Darnold. But I'll start Darnold and Tannehill over Josh Allen. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Good to know. I go Darnold over Allen, but I go Allen over Tannehill. All right. So, again, it's D's darnold who's only 51 owned and he is facing the bengals this week and then the dolphins next week tannahill has the colts who haven't given up more than 22 fantasy points to a quarterback since week three that includes the sean watson twice and patrick mahomes but tannahill has had good games against teams that currently rank eighthth and 12th against quarterbacks. He's had the Chargers and the Panthers. He's had good games against them.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And he's doing it on low passing volume. He's also running those legs. He's run for 37 yards or more in three-strike games. Yeah, it's big. He's just finding ways to make plays. It's really great to see. Dalton has the Jets. Nick Foles has the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Now, if you can't get those guys, you're in a deeper league. Well, actually, Daniel Jones is owned in a lot of leagues. But the Packers, one thing I couldn't believe last night was looking at the numbers. The Packers pass defense. It hasn't necessarily shown up in fantasy points because they allow the seventh fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks. But last five games, opposing quarterbacks are throwing for
Starting point is 00:30:45 290 yards per game against the Packers. 9.2 yards per attempt. And four of the five teams that have faced them have had quarterback ratings, because Oakland had two quarterbacks, but quarterback ratings of 107 are better. And they didn't face really good quarterbacks either. It's crazy,
Starting point is 00:31:01 because they faced Matt Moore instead of Mahomes. So I don't know about Daniel Jones this week, but weeks 15 and 16, he has Miami and Washington. They can't run the ball. Just wanted to throw him in there. Trubisky's got the Lions. I was going to bring up Trubisky as a possible...
Starting point is 00:31:17 He's the fifth guy. Yeah, right. I wouldn't want him to be your first or second guy. That would make me sick, but he's got at least 20 fantasy points in two of his last three games. Matchup against Detroit's going to be really first or second guy, that would make me sick, but he's got at least 20 fantasy points in two of his last three games. Matchup against Detroit is going to be really good for him. Hopefully he's accurate enough to have a 60% completion rate, and he's done that
Starting point is 00:31:33 enough this year, and he's running a little bit more. Well, he had one of those games was against Detroit. It was three games ago. He had 24 points against them. How many pass attempts in that game? 23. 24 points on 23 pass attempts. That's what you're talking about with the Lions. You're not looking at a great player,
Starting point is 00:31:52 but you're also not looking at a great defense. And Trey Flowers missed last week's game, so we'll see if he's able to come back on a short week, which clearly would impact that pass rush. But Trubisky has shown that... Not really. Their pass rush has been dormant pretty much all year, try or no try.
Starting point is 00:32:06 If you're looking at a scenario of you're stuck, then he's not... I'd start him over Bursette, just in terms of somebody who's been a starter and somebody that I had ranked as a top 10 guy last week. So I think Trubisky's got a higher ceiling than Jacoby does. All right, Kyle Allen and Ryan Fitzpatrick, maybe you could use them in super flex leagues.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Allen has Washington and Fitzpatrick. Gets the Eagles, and they've been so good against quarterbacks. And let's talk about quarterbacks. A drop real quick, and then we'll move on to running backs. We talked Derek Carr you can get rid of. Do you like Jacoby Brissett at all this week, or is he more of a drop? He's 76%. Okay, goodbye. I mean, you've seen enough of whatett at all this week, or is he more of a drop? He's 76%. Okay, goodbye.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I mean, you've seen enough of what, again, this offense is, and he's just not throwing the ball enough and having enough success. Well, see, I think there's going to be a big game for T.Y. Hilton, but I don't think it's going to necessarily mean Jacoby Brissett goes over 20 points. And for what it's worth, no more Eric Ebron. So that's not necessarily a problem in the red zone
Starting point is 00:33:02 as much as it's a problem for big plays because Ebron was used in that regard. They'd find matchups for him and he'd have a bunch of 15 plus yard passes. Phillip Rivers you can drop. 92% on Phillip Rivers at Denver this week. I want to try and make some sort of case for Phillip. He had four points against Denver
Starting point is 00:33:19 the first time these two teams met and he was playing better than them. Yeah, you can't use him. I want to see if Denver... I think it's over. I you can't use him. I want to see if Denver's... I think it's over. I think it's over. I do want to see if Denver's still a tough matchup because the last two weeks,
Starting point is 00:33:31 they haven't really been as good. So we shall see. But no, I'm not saying I'm starting Phillip Rivers. It's really more just looking at schedules and seeing who has Denver later in the year. And then Matt Ryan, I don't want to drop him. You guys?
Starting point is 00:33:45 If you need to pick up... If I only have one roster spot to play with, I'm dropping him for Darnold or Tannehill. It's true, yeah. If you have to start someone this week, yeah. But I think we'd rather hold on to him, hope he gets Hooper back, gets Freeman back, and could be good in your fantasy postseason. I think the Saints are going to smash them this week, though. I mean, after losing to them in their building.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Then they've got Carolina. They're at San Francisco. Jacksonville at home in week 16. Oh, good. They've got Tampa Bay in Tampa Bay in week 17. That worked out well. Yeah. Hey, let's do something real quick here.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Just in case people, you know, you have a 40-minute commute and you're not going to get to hear the entire show. Rapid Fire, give me the top three or four at each position remaining and then we'll get into it after that. So start with running back. I mean, we've already talked about that, but give it to us again.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Jonathan Williams, Rashad Penny, Benny Snell, and then one of the Chiefs guys, depending on who's available to you, McCoy or Darrell Williams. I'd throw Raheem Mostert in there at the end. I would take Chase Edmonds over Raheem Mostert in there at the end, ahead of the Chiefs guys. I would take Chase Edmonds over Raheem Mostert. How come? Because just in case he's the second guy behind Kenyon Drake.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah, it's also Maprita. And we already said Rashad Penny would be kind of lower if you need someone for this week. All right, wide receiver. He'd still be third. You'd still take him ahead of almost anybody else. I mean, he's going to probably be the first guy added just because of ownership percentage, so just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Bo Scarborough, by the way, 71% overall will also be a priority. Wide receivers? For me, it's D.D. Westbrook, Sterling Shepard, and Darius Slayton. I just think one of the two Giants guys has a chance to play well, if not both. A.J. Brown would be right after them, and then Cole Beasley. This is just for this week. I've got D.D. first, James Washington second, Cole Beasley third. I'm not thinking long-term with receivers at all
Starting point is 00:35:29 because you can find a receiver off the waiver wire each week, and I don't think that there's a league winner among the receivers. What about Randall Cobb? Randall Cobb has, what, 86 more yards in three straight games? Yeah, I mean, there really isn't one standout guy above the rest because you look at all of these guys. I could sit here and tell you that Russell Gage could still be the best guy in PPR
Starting point is 00:35:51 after what we saw last week. If Philip Dorsett and Mohamed Snur are out once again, you could look at Nikhil Harry or Jacoby Myers. Those guys could easily be one of the top guys. If Tyreek Hill is out, Mikko Hardman could be the best guy. So there's a bunch of guys that are sort of in the same range. I mean, Robbie Anderson has scored in two straight games,
Starting point is 00:36:10 and he gets the Bengals this week. I'd recommend stashing Hardman for the fantasy playoffs if you have Tyreek Hill, just to have that element of the Chiefs offense. Look at what Anthony Miller's done the last two weeks, and now Taylor Gabriel's out. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, and you could definitely handcuff wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:36:23 We never really talk about it, but it's not a terrible strategy. This is the time of the year to do it, yeah. Tight ends. I'm going Doyle first because I think he's got long-term potential. And then after that, for now, it's Kyle Rudolph second, Ryan Griffin third, Irv Smith after that, and David Njoku after that. But things will change if Adam Thielen's healthy,
Starting point is 00:36:46 if reports come out that say Njoku's going to play. But Doyle is still going to be my numero uno at tight end. Griffin's one for me, and it's not close. A very good second option would be Gerald Everett just because of the matchup against the Cardinals. I think he's going to score because every tight end scores against the Cardinals. And then I'd put Jack Doyle third, followed by Rudolph fourth, and then Jacob Hollister still fifth.
Starting point is 00:37:06 He should have had a touchdown last week. Yeah. And he's just been playing very well. A rare misfire from Russell Wilson on that play. DSTs. Eagles by far, number one. And they've got long-term potential like Adam talked about earlier.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Panthers, number two. They get Washington. Packers get Daniel Jones. I think they're going to go after him and their pass rush gets back at it. And then I'd put the Chargers fourth. You're talking about Brandon Allen or Drew Locke has not looked good.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And they're getting Derwin James back. So it could be a great situation for that pass rush with Bosa and Ingram probably sacking the Broncos quarterback 25 times. You must love Andy Dalton this week. I must love Andy Dalton this week. To not have the Jets on here?
Starting point is 00:37:51 As a DST to go and get it? Not better than these four. This is actually a good week. Everyone on this list except Philly. I'm not looking at the Jets coming off one game where Derek Carr had his receivers drop the ball all over the place. No, it's three games though. It's three games in a row. I'm looking at a Bengals offense that's been in that pretty long.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I think they're going to be fired up, though. I really do. I think, you know, getting Andy Dalton back. You know, Joe Mixon was all fired up yesterday on Twitter. He was so excited about it. I think they'll play better. Look, this is a really strong week for streaming DSTs. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:20 That's true. Those five teams that we mentioned, okay, Eagles, Panthers, Packers, Chargers, Jets, all pretty good. The Titans are always solid. They're 41%. It's a good week. So I don't know that it needs to be a huge priority for you unless you're looking ahead and you want to get the Eagles because they have three good matchups in a row. So that's good. There has not been one team all year that has had just a flat out bad game as a DST against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:38:46 So like even in games where the Giants have scored a lot of points, the DSTs have done at least fine. So the Packers could be a nice fallback option because they've been playing horribly lately. But this is such a good matchup against this turnover. So it sounds like this is a week where you shouldn't spend any fab on a DST.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I mean, very little. I'm going to make the exception for the Eagles because like I said, I think they could win you. But how much? Five? Yeah. This is it for you. You spend what you got to spend. Sure. You got to win. But I think, you know, I don't think I'll ever spend more than like five bucks on a DST
Starting point is 00:39:17 out of a $100 budget, original budget. But yes, they feel like the DST to go get right now, because they could be in your lineup for the next three weeks, no question, and absolutely crushing it. Kickers and then IDP real quick. The kickers would be Crosby, Jake Elliott, Zane Gonzalez, and Mike Badgley. And Dave?
Starting point is 00:39:37 And yeah, I've got a long list of IDPs. I'll go through them quickly. Defensive line, Eric Armstead, Max Armstead, Mad Max Crosby, Marcus Golden with the Giants. Linebackers, James Burgess with the Jets, Devin White with the Bucs, AJ Johnson with the Broncos, Matt Milano
Starting point is 00:39:56 with the Bills, Devondre Campbell with the Falcons, and then maybe Jared Davis. I should throw in Jared Davis at linebacker as well. He's been playing better the last couple of games. Jamel Dean should be your top defensive back to go get. Ever since the Bucs made him a starter, double digit points every single week.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Trey Flowers is another one. This is Trey Flowers with Seattle, not Trey Flowers with Detroit. And finally, Marcus Peters, rare for a cornerback to have good numbers in IDP, but he's been getting the job done with Baltimore. I think he can keep it up. All right, I'm going to tell you about SeatGeek.
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Starting point is 00:42:00 where would LaShawn McCoy and Dryl Williams be on your priority list? LaShawn would be second for me behind Jonathan Williams. Darryl Williams might be right behind him. Yep. Okay, great. Darryl Williams is kind of on my list anyway, but toward the bottom. He's a stash in deeper leagues.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So then other guys. Before we get to the deeper leagues, we got Tariq Cohen, who could be available. Now, he's 79% owned. To me, that means he's owned in every PPR league and non-PPR, not so much. The Lions give up the third most receiving yards per game to running backs. Cohen himself had four for 23 in a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:42:42 receiving against the Lions. Is Tariq Cohen a starter in even non-PPR this week? He's getting more involved lately. No. I think it's deeper flex, maybe. Okay. Deeper league flex. But in PPR, I mean, look, 11 or more points,
Starting point is 00:42:57 three straight games. It's hard to overlook that. And, all right, if you need a running back and the guys that we've been talking about are not available, although Benny Snell is only owned in 10% of leagues, so his ownership percent is going to shoot up. Chase Edmonds.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Oh, I have to ask this. I'm sorry. Benny Snell, what do you expect this week against Cleveland with Connor likely out? Cleveland, actually, this is so strange. Five straight games without a running back getting double-digit carries against Cleveland. Only one game in their last six
Starting point is 00:43:29 where running backs had double digits and non-PPR fantasy points. Carries, like nobody's getting carries against Cleveland, so it's hard to evaluate their run defense lately. So how good of a start is Benny Snell going to be this week? He's not a great start. Nope, he's a flex. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:44 But that's partially because we have no more bye weeks. It's not a big week of injuries at the position without having a capable replacement. And what I mean by that is Mack is out, but Williams is basically Mack. So then you look at the rest of the injuries, Devontae Freeman hopefully coming back, Damian Williams hopefully healthy,
Starting point is 00:44:02 Jordan Howard has a direct replacement that's probably just as good. So as of right now, are you ranking Miles Sanders ahead of Benny Snow? Oh yeah, by a long way, yeah. Obviously that could change if Howard comes back. So running backs in deeper leagues. Chase Edmonds,
Starting point is 00:44:17 Raheem Mostert, Jay Ajayi, he had six carries last week. Naeem Hines, Patrick Laird for the Dolphins, and Kareth White, who, yeah, I mean, he had six carries for 43 yards at Cincinnati. He's Pittsburgh running back. He got the game going for Pittsburgh,
Starting point is 00:44:36 and then Benny Snell took over later. All right. So Chase Edmonds, Jamie, you kind of said you'd rather have him than I think Mostert. Yeah, I mean, Matt Breida is expected to return this week. That's something that at least I saw that he could return Sunday. So, you know, Mostert is basically dependent on Breida being out. He's not the lead guy there.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Edmonds, I don't know what they're going to do with the Cardinals. I'd be shocked if Kenyon Drake's not the lead guy, but then who's second? Will it be Edmonds or will it be David Johnson? It'll be Edmonds. I would be shocked if Kenyon Drake's not the lead guy, but then who's second? Will it be Edmonds or will it be David Johnson? It'll be Edmonds. I would expect that to be the case. Right. So, you know, the last game we saw for the Cardinals, they didn't give a second guy touches because David Johnson didn't get any opportunities to touch the ball. So what does that mean? But they clearly like Edmonds. They obviously like Kenyon Drake. So will they just share the ball with those two guys? There's no starter among this group,
Starting point is 00:45:26 but should something happen to Drake, would Edmonds now be the next man up for the Cardinals over David Johnson? Now, okay, none of these guys really were picking up as starts, but I think you look at the 49ers backfield, and I gave this stat on yesterday's show. You better have listened. In his last four games, Tevin Coleman has 44 carries.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Four of them have gone for more than five yards. One of them has gone for more than 11 yards. He has really been bad for four straight games. That was after he destroyed the Panthers. Mostert looks like he's shot out of a cannon every time he touches
Starting point is 00:46:01 the ball. Yeah, same thing with Jeff Wilson. Brita and Mostert are over five time he touches the ball. Yeah, same thing with Jeff Wilson. Breida and Mostert are over five yards per carry this year. So, like, if you own Tevin Coleman and you're relying on him, first of all, you should be playing the waiver wire this week if you can. But who's the best back to
Starting point is 00:46:17 get there if you own Coleman or if you just want to speculate? Is it Mostert or Breida? I would imagine that if Breida is healthy, he'll be in a good position to be potentially their number one guy. Maybe they reshuffle it a little bit with how they use him. When you come off the game last week, or Sunday night against the Packers, is that a win for Coleman?
Starting point is 00:46:37 No. No. Although he looked great on that 11-yard run that he had. He scored. He scored. That was the cheapest touchdown. He ran for half a yard and got pushed for a yard and a half.
Starting point is 00:46:47 It just looks terrible. But it is nice to see him get the goal line work. That's the only thing saving his value right now. It's also why his yards per carry is where it is. I don't know. I just told you. 44 carries in his last four games. But his short yardage work. That's going to hurt anybody's yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:47:03 He's going to stink this week against Baltimore. Yeah, that's the other thing facing Baltimore. So I don't think we want to start. I'm guessing, is he a top 24 running
Starting point is 00:47:11 back this week? He is not. No, I have Kareem Hunt and Ronald Jones ranked ahead of him in PPR. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Other running backs like Peyton Barber. Look, we know what he is, but he's got 11 carries in two of his last three games. He scores sometimes.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Jordan Wilkins. I love Ronald Jones this week. Against the Jaguars. Oh, God, their run defense has been terrible. Kadri Olsen has a touchdown in two straight games. That's it. All right, wide receivers. So this is the one position I think we've talked the least about,
Starting point is 00:47:38 so let's get into it. First of all, if you see Debo Samuel and Will Fuller on your waiver wire, they're 79% and 78% owned. They've got dreadful matchups. Debo's got the Ravens, and he only had two targets last week. And Will Fuller didn't have a great matchup against the Colts, and he had 140 yards, but now it's New England. So do you pick them up, Debo and Fuller?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Absolutely. And for Fuller, sorry, it's New England, and then it's Denver the following week. Well, the nice thing about Fuller is that he's got a teammate who draws tougher coverage than he gets. He proved last week that he's right back in the swing of things and he's capable of catching deep balls. I think you
Starting point is 00:48:15 almost have to start him as at least a flex every week. Not this week. I think you could this week. I'm not. I've got him 30th in my rankings. Yeah, he's barely inside my top 48. It's going to be a bad day for the Texas passing game. I'm going to guess.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I'm going to look it up right now. I'm going to guess the Patriots give up the fewest 40-plus yard pass plays in the NFL and probably 20-plus yard as well. And they own the Texans. Oh, you're right. They really do. So other wide receivers who are in that range, A.J. Green and Muhammad Sanu. How interested would you be in picking up A.J. Green and Muhammad Sanu, 78% owned?
Starting point is 00:48:52 I can't pick up A.J. until I know if he's playing or not. Yeah, but if you have an open roster about to play with, it's not a bad thing. This is an interesting stat just from Stephon Gilmore, just as we're talking about that game. Stephon Gilmore in two games against DeAndre Hopkins since 2017. What would you guess his total yards is in those two games? Hopkins yardage or yards that Gilmore allowed to Hopkins?
Starting point is 00:49:16 I'm going to guess 84. Gilmore versus Hopkins. They're a one-on-one matchup. Oh, 35. 85 yards in two games. Oh, good! I changed my guess. I had 84. Nine targets, six catches, 85 yards.
Starting point is 00:49:31 He's got one interception, one pass breakup, and one pass interference penalty. I believe he was also good against him when he was in Buffalo. Yeah, it's going to be a bad day. It's going to be rough for Hopkins. Where do you have Hopkins ranked this week? I think I put him at 25. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:50 By the way, the Patriots give up the third fewest 20-plus yard pass plays and the second fewest 40-plus yard pass plays. Back to the waiver wire. D.D. Westbrook, 58% owned. He had nine targets last week. He had six targets the week before. I can't say he's doing a whole lot with it, but the matchup is just so tasty. I gave that stat about the Bucs. They give up two good games to two wide receivers every single week. Sterling
Starting point is 00:50:15 Shepard, Darius Slayton. Shepard had nine targets. Slayton had seven. Slayton was much better. This is all about Golden Tate being out. If Golden Tate clears the concussion protocol, I don't know how you'll feel about them. But the Packers give up the most big pass plays in the NFL. And I do wonder if that's more of Darius Slayton's thing. I mean, he's definitely more of the downfield guy. But Shepard could do like a Debo Samuel catch and run. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Are you excited about Shepard and Slayton? This is not a great waiver. Shepard, yes. Excited? I mean, there's a chance here for them. The targets have been up for Shepard, and that's something I think you look at and say, okay, this could be another opportunity for him just with the fact that Golden Tate's out.
Starting point is 00:50:56 So they're absolutely worth investing. Actually, I'd be shocked if he didn't have five or more catches because that's basically what he does every week. He had five catches last week and no yards on top of it. Yeah, so if there's no Ingram and there's no Tate, then yeah, Shepard actually might be really good, 56% on PPR maybe more so. A.J. Brown, here are his yards in five games with Tannehill. 64-11, 81-17, 135.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So every time we buy into Brown, he burns you. I know people are going to be hesitant there, but he's been doing better. Cole Beasley, Philip Dorsett, James Washington, Randall Cobb. Dave, any names there that get your juices flowing? No, nothing that gets my juices flowing but i do think that james washington if there's still no juju has a chance to have a couple of big plays we've seen him have big plays i think three of his last four games he's had a catch for at least 20 yards uh and
Starting point is 00:51:58 he seems to be building confidence and i i hate the quarterback change it's gone from an ugly passer to an even uglier one with Devlin Hodges, but I still can buy into him maybe having a floor of 10 PPR points. I think when you look at the... Randall Cobb, does he have the best game of a Dallas wide receiver this week? Cobb? Yeah. He might.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Is he the best one? Right. Playing in the slot, revenge game. He might. Is he the best one? Right. Playing in the slot, revenge game. He's had a... No, revenge games for Beasley, but Cobb, I'm sure, beats Buffalo anyway. Why is Cobb that way? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:34 For a second, I got confused between the two. You know, Randall Cobb. He had a really bad Buffalo chicken sandwich one week, and he is going to take it out on the Buffalo Bills. But here I looked. He's had seven to eight targets i think in four straight games and i looked at all the wide receivers that had exactly seven to eight targets against the bills and here were their ppr fantasy points five seven seven
Starting point is 00:52:56 twelve and three so not good but that's really that doesn't really mean anything but what do what do the slot receivers do because that's that's where you look for Cobb. Nobody's done well against them, really. Very few. Devontae Parker's one of the only ones. They give up the second fewest points to wide receivers. The Bears are next week for Cobb. They give up the third fewest.
Starting point is 00:53:15 But the Patriots give up the fewest. And he had 86 yards. He did have a 59-yard catch. Didn't do much other than that. Yeah. He's not anywhere close to my favorite receiver to pick up off waivers this week. You'll go after Didi. I'll go after James Washington before him. Cole Beasley, Sterling Shepard, A.J. Brown.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Those guys are ahead of him. I think when you look at the deeper targets at wide receiver, the deeper leagues, it's more exciting. Not that you're starting them over them, but hey, we got some good options. We have Russell Gage, who had eight catches last week. We have Robbie Anderson, who Jamie said scored a touchdown in two straight games and gets the Bengals. Anthony Miller, 20 targets in his last two games. And now Taylor Gabriel's out, and he's at Detroit. I mean, that's actually pretty sneaky.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Not even sneaky. That's a good one, Anthony Miller. Jacoby Myers. If he can hold on to the football. And he hasn't scored yet this year. And you've got to hope that those targets stay up for him. So I'm not that excited over Anthony Miller. I'd be shocked if the targets those targets stay up for him. So I'm not that excited over Anthony O'Reilly. I'd be shocked if the targets don't stay up for him.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah, Chris Conley, 17 targets in his last two games, and he's facing the Bucs. Alan Hearns, Greg Ward for the Eagles. So, yeah, there's some pretty solid options here. If Julio Jones doesn't play, I mean, Russell Gage could be great. Even if Julio plays, Russell Gage could be great. Even if Julio plays, Russell Gage. He's 2% owned. The key for Gage is whether or not Hooper
Starting point is 00:54:29 or Devante Freeman come back. And if they're out, then Gage is that extension of the run game because he's a short area target. Okay. And obviously, if Tyree kills out, then Nicole Hardman, he was pretty good. He scored 7 or more non-PPR fantasy points, 11 or-PPR fantasy points,
Starting point is 00:54:47 11 or more PPR fantasy points in three of four games without Tyreek Hill, and he gets the Raiders. Cool. Who's your favorite Patriots wide receiver to pick up this week? Honestly, all four of them, other than Edelman, could be on waivers. It depends what you need. If you're looking ahead, I think Dorsett, assuming Sanu's not available, because I think he gets thrown back in as the second, third guy.
Starting point is 00:55:09 All right. But then I'd go Harry, I'd go Myers next. I would take Myers over Harry, but both of them could be off my team by the end of the week. I got one more sleeper to throw out. Aud and Tate with Andy Dalton back against the Jets. Could be, although targets have been down for him. You know, Erickson's been the one that's sort of
Starting point is 00:55:28 passed him a little bit the last month. Maybe that's the sleeper you meant to say. No, well, I thought maybe it was more of a Dalton versus Finley thing, but I know Erickson was starting to play well with Dalton there, so yeah, maybe. Tight ends, remember Hooper and Ingram could be available. Dallas Goddard, 66% owned.
Starting point is 00:55:44 So we said earlier that ryan griffin is our favorite for jamie jack doyle for dave how about goddard compared to those two he'd be behind yeah he's behind him yeah i mean especially if jeffrey's back but still it's the dolphins yeah the dolphins if ryan griffin had held on to that touchdown the dolphins would have allowed a touchdown in three straight games before last week when I don't even remember who they played, the Browns. Okay, so Ryan Griffin, Gerald Everett. So do we have faith in any of the Rams?
Starting point is 00:56:17 I know we're not going to talk about this game. We're going to run out of time. Do we have faith in any of the Rams this week in this juicy matchup? I actually think they bounce back and play well just because Arizona's so bad defensively. Okay, so Everett's good. I don't think they're in shambles defensively. They've got a pass rush.
Starting point is 00:56:30 That's a problem for Jared Goff. But the track record against tight ends speaks for itself, and that's why you buy in Everett. I think we've spoken enough about Jack Doyle. He's got two good matchups coming up. He's got the red zone target leader of the team out for the year, and he was a top 10 PPR tight end two seasons ago before the Ebron acquisition.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Kyle Rudolph has scored five touchdown catches in his last four games, and it's obviously dependent on Thielen, but, man, the Seahawks stink against tight ends. They allow the fifth most fantasy points to tight ends. So I wonder if Rudolph could be good even with Thielen there. What do you think? I'd prefer to go with him if Thielen's out. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Thielen is another legit red zone target that takes Rudolph away. And Rudolph is basically, with Thielen playing, he's a touchdown or bust tight end. Let me go through the list again and tell me, at what point do we stop having good options that we are excited to start? Goddard, Griffin, Everett, Doyle. And we're there. You sure? Rudolph would be there if Thielen's out.
Starting point is 00:57:39 That's true. That's true. Okay. All right, cool. Rudolph, Jacob Hollister against Minnesota. They've been pretty good against tight ends. David Njoku has a very good schedule. You could pick him up as a stash maybe at Pittsburgh, Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:57:54 and at Arizona next three weeks. You absolutely should. Yeah. We don't know what his role will be, but it could be worth a gamble. Delaney Walker could be back this week. Noah Fant. Knew he was going to struggle last week. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:07 What do you think about Fant this week against the Chargers? He'll get a lot of targets and probably not do a lot with it. I'm just not excited about it. Gusecki? Unless you get points for targets in your league. Mike Gusecki? Scored his first NFL touchdown last week. He's playing better.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It's an interesting matchup. Not a great one. But, you know, Hollister again should have scored last week. We'll see. They're searching for that second guy, you know, to help Devontae Parker. Alan Hearn scored last week. And, you know, so did Isecki.
Starting point is 00:58:42 So it's just one of those situations where he's at the bottom of the guys that you could turn to if you're stuck this week and then really this is not that crazy but caden smith for the giants he got six targets he caught a touchdown at the bears he only had 17 yards but yeah five catches on six targets caden smith faces the packers and they're just i say it every week they're just really bad against tight ends. Yeah, that's a good one. Well, it's Jamie's. It's not mine. But yeah, Caden Smith is not a crazy tight end streamer this week, unless Red Ellison comes back, or obviously if Evan Ingram comes back. Right, that's the only risk you run.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And I should probably switch the order. I just put him there with the idea of those guys potentially returning. But if you tell me that Ingram and Ellison are out, I would put him 1, 2, 3, 4 as the sixth guy behind Griffin, Everett, Doyle, Rudolph, and Hollister. And Goddard. And I would start him over Rudolph and feel his back. And Goddard too. I know you're not including him because he's just over the threshold.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Goddard over Caden Smith, right? I probably would. Yeah, I'd start Goddard over Caden Smith. Okay. And DSTs, Eagles, Panthers, Packers, Chargers, Jets. Are you starting them over the Ravens? Over the Niners? Over the Patriots?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Over the Bills? Over the Niners for sure. I'd start the Eagles and Panthers over the Ravens and Patriots. The Ravens are my number one DST this week. They're just playing too hot. I know, it's crazy. But yeah, if you own the Niners, if you own the Patriots, the Bills at Dallas, they're probably not going to have it.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Dallas is really good against the STs. Yeah, you could do one of these streamers. Mason Crosby, Jake Elliott, Zingazalas, Mike Badgley. Dave gave all those IDPs. And if we have just a few minutes, I'll take a look at players that we could consider dropping. We didn't get a chance to talk about that. Well, Jared Goff, if you're really discouraged,
Starting point is 01:00:42 where do you have Jared Goff this week in this matchup against the Cardinals? Around 15. I'd start him over Brady. Would you drop Tom Brady at Houston, Kansas City, and at Cincinnati next week? Is he droppable? Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I say no. Based on what? Based on I want to have him for those other matchups. I don't totally hate Brady this week. He's just not in my top 12. Jalen Samuels. He's droppable in smaller non-PPR leagues. I think he's droppable across the board.
Starting point is 01:01:19 James White. Droppable in smaller non-PPR leagues. Carlos Hyde. Droppable in smaller non-PPR leagues. Carlos Hyde. Droppable in smaller leagues. 10 teams or less. He's droppable in almost all PPRs. PPR, yeah. But you could see them riding him a little bit this week.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Right. He's good running back depth. Duke Johnson. Droppable. Droppable in non-PPR leagues. Brian Hill. Totally droppable. Here'sable and non-PPR. Brian Hill. Totally droppable. Here's a drop.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Royce Freeman. Only if you want to handcuff him to Lindsey, because if Lindsey got hurt, then he'd be good. Yeah, two carries last week. Darius Geis and Adrian Peterson. Peterson's droppable. I'd hold Geis. Same.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Curtis Samuel. Droppable. I think he's benchable. Would you drop Greg Olson for these streaming tight ends? Yes. Yeah, I think so. Love you guys. Talk to you guys on Thursday for a Thanksgiving feast,
Starting point is 01:02:20 a special Thanksgiving episode. Not really. It's just the same old episode, but it's on Thanksgiving. We'll have Heath and Ben on tomorrow. For Dave, for Jamie, I'm Adam. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.

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