Fantasy Football Today - 11/28: Start or Sit (AFC); Big News Items (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 28, 2019

A quick update on some of the Thanksgiving games including our thoughts on Julio Jones, the DAL WRs, David Montgomery and more. And we give you our favorite FanDuel lineups for the Thursday slate (7:05) ... News and notes (9:05) and we've got a lot of them! Let's talk about the KC RBs with Damien Williams still injured, T.Y. Hilton, Miles Sanders and more. Then check out some cool Week 13 stats (19:05) as we start our Deshaun Watson vs. NE debate, discuss Josh Jacobs' potential for a bad games and Ronald Jones' potential for a great game. Then it's "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" (25:00) for the games we're covering later in the show ... NE-HOU (28:00), SF-BAL (38:10), TB-JAC (44:00), TEN-IND (50:30), PHI-MIA (58:00), NYJ-CIN (1:02:00), KC-OAK (1:06:30) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Get your lineup set. It's time for Start or Sit. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!

Let's talk fantasy football. It's Thursday, and I want to eat, so let's get started. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, J.B. Eisberg, happy Thanksgiving, guys. Good morning. No football game for you today? No, no football game. I left those behind in Florida. You know, very disappointing. But I will have three football games to watch today. Are they playing without you? They are playing without you. The game goes on.

My family's had a football game for over 20 years in a row now in South Florida. And the game will go on this year. Yes. So you can stop by and play if you want, Jamie. Sure. What's the address? I'll give you the address after the show. Real quick, very thankful for the listeners.

Very, very, like, very thankful for the listeners. Very, very sincerely thankful for the listeners, for the interaction that we get with the listeners on this podcast, on the radio show, on FFT, the video show, on Twitter. We love you guys. That is not me just saying that. Wouldn't be here without you. So thank you. Very true.

Thank you. Yeah. Very thankful for the guys I work with, David, Jamie, Heath, Ben, etc. For Ben Schrager, who's producing our podcast. He's having fun with his family this week. For the video crew. What about Andrew Balmer? The video crew.

Deb, Andrew, Janita, Mikey. All the guys and girls who make it happen. So thank you. Chris Towers. You don't want to thank him? Chris, Will, Dr. Chow, Dr. Bowers. How about you guys? Any thank yous to throw out? Just for you, buddy. You're the best.

Oh, thanks, man. I got some good stats today. Who's going to win by more points this week? The Patriots at Houston or the Ravens against the Niners? The Patriots don't score very much, so I'm going to say the Ravens against the Niners. I Patriots don't score very much, so I'm going to say the Ravens against the Niners.

I think the Patriots score a decent amount. I'll go with the Patriots over Houston. Okay. Sorry we spoiled the ending of the game for a while. They'll win by 10. All right. Let's get some quick thoughts on Thanksgiving games. We previewed the games extensively yesterday, and I know that when people listen to this show,

some of the games are going to be underway or over because it's a weird day. You might be listening to Starter Sit on Friday or Saturday instead of Thursday. So we'll do this quickly here. You can skip ahead a couple minutes if you need to. I got an email from Adam in Toronto. He wants to know what he should do about Julio Jones. Would you bench Julio Jones for Crowder, McLaurin, or Scarborough in a PPR league?

Obviously, this is assuming Julio plays. No, I wouldn't do that. I know that Julio's banged up and he hasn't given you what you wanted this year, but there's still potential for a big game, and if it's PPR, it's even easier for him to hit that potential. Well, I'm wondering though if his lineup's locked,

and that's why he has to make the decision. I think this is if he plays or not. If Julio plays. Oh, okay. Because obviously Julio plays, you're going to play more of those. That's what I think. Like the lineup's locked before the first game. There's some things that do that, so you just want to play it safe. I mean, look, if we don't get reports that he's guaranteed to play,

you know the Falcons have nothing to play for at this point, so they may decide to sit him. I'd be surprised. The fact that he was able to go through the walkthrough I think is a good sign. What are the names again? Crowder, McLaurin, and Scarborough. Yeah. I mean, obviously, Scarborough, throw him out.

We like Crowder. Yeah, I mean, if you don't hear anything and you're just extremely concerned, then I'd play Crowder. What if you heard a report from NFL Network saying that the Falcons are optimistic about having Julio? Yeah, then you just... Well, that's what's out there. There's a report from NFL Network saying that he's optimistic about optimistic about having Julio. Yeah, then you just then you then you. Well, that's what's out there.

There's a report from NFL Network saying that he's optimistic about playing. All right. But I think that's the only scenario. Like if Julio plays, you're playing more of those guys. Even with a lot of more expected to return. In terms of the Thanksgiving. Yeah, he's got good history. A lot of yards against the Saints.

So in terms of the Thanksgiving games, you know, the ones that really get me are the wide receivers in the Dallas Buffalo game. You know, I think they're really intriguing. I want to know how you guys feel about them. I mean, we argued with Heath yesterday because he has John Brown in the top five, which I think is just insane. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

But, look, Brown's been good this year. But, you know, Cooper says he's healthy. Cobb and Gallup and Brown how do you feel about them I actually I don't have it ranked this way but I feel the most confident in Randall Cobb and just this his role in the offense I know he won't see Tredavious White and I'm most I'm least confident about Amari Cooper because he will see Tredavious White and we've seen now two straight weeks where Amari Cooper he's cutting okay but he's not separating from his defenders and he's got good defenders on him. Good cornerbacks have been playing him. So I'm nervous about Amari Cooper. I have Gallup ranked higher and I like Cobb and DFS. I'm using him in

a bunch of my DFS lineup. Yeah. I feel somewhat the same way. You know, it's just Cooper is been very good at home. Um, and we've seen white give up some plays we've seen uh you know the buffalo secondary give up some plays even in garbage time so i i think you treat those guys as as you know low end number two receivers in terms of the two dallas guys just because of how i think the pass rush is going to be a problem for dac as well i also think after what jerry jones said that if they do not run the ball as much as they possibly can uh he might fire jason garrett at halftime because he said, we want to see Zeke in,

uh, uh, the salvation army belt two or three. He said, you will see him in the salvation army belt two or three times. So I wonder if they get down there throwing the ball, if they can't run, but Zeke is going to definitely be the one working in the red zone.

So I don't think that's going to have a big game. Um, I do think that it's going to be a big Elliot game. So, uh, that's making me nervous a little bit about the Cowboys guys for Brown. I think, you it's going to be a big Elliott game. So that's making me nervous a little bit about the Cowboys guys. For Brown, I think, you know, you just look... The floor is very consistent. Last week was his first

game under 50 yards receiving, but he's now been 11 or more PPR points. I think it's like six or seven games in a row. So I'll take my chances with him. He's a top 15 receiver for me. I like him the best of the receivers in this game. Of the quarterbacks playing today, other than Drew Brees, how many of the quarterbacks are you starting ahead of Sam Darnold

and Carson Wentz? And guys, let's finish up. Okay, great. So that means Darnold and Wentz are ahead of Prescott, Josh Allen, etc., and Matt Ryan. I actually go back and forth between Allen and Prescott. I think Allen's going to have a good game. You talk about another guy with a good floor,

multiple touchdowns, two straight games, excuse me, six straight games in a row. So he's just been finding ways to be productive in 20 or more fantasy points. I think it's like six of seven. So he's using his legs, and I think he'll make things tough on Dallas' defense. I misspoke.

I would start Dak over Allen because I don't know how high-scoring a game that's going to be. But Darnold ahead of everybody. Over Wentz? Darnold, Darnold, Prescott. Wentz. No, no, Darnold, Wentz, Prescott, Josh Allen. Okay.

You got me? Everybody, say your favorite FanDuel lineup for the Thanksgiving slate. If you need time to look it up, I'll give you mine right now. Mitchell Trubisky against the Lions. Ezekiel Elliott and Alvin Kamara. Calvin Ridley, Anthony Miller, and Cole Beasley. Jared Cook at tight end.

Tariq Cohen at flex. And the Bears DST. So I have Trubisky, Cohen, the Bears, and Anthony Miller. I have Zeke, I have Kamara, Calvin Ridley, Cole Beasley, and Jared Cook. That's my favorite fan to a lineup. Jamie Dave? I've got the Bears DST in all of my

lineups. I've got Tariq Cohen and Randall Cobb in most of my lineups. I've got Kamara in a bunch. I've got Ezekiel Elliott in a bunch. But if I'm going to pick one lineup to spew right now, here's one. Bree've got Camara in a bunch. I've got Ezekiel Elliott in a bunch. But if I'm going to pick one lineup to spew right now, here's one. Breeze, Camara, Cohen, Michael Thomas, Cobb,

Russell Gage, Jared Cook, Anthony Miller, and the Bears' DST. Whoa, that's really good. That's a lot better than mine. Good for you. Yeah, that's very good. Mine might be a little less popular in start percentage, but that is damn good jamie oh yeah i'm going breeze uh zeke and david montgomery i think with the quarterback change for the lions montgomery is going to benefit in

a big way because the bears are gonna have the ball probably all all day long so uh he's gonna get 20 plus carries and have 100 in a touchdown um wow uh michael thomas cole beasley and anthony miller and then uh jared cook davae Freeman, and the Bills defense. All right, everybody. Good luck on FanDuel. We're going to talk about David Blau in just a moment. Apple Podcast Review Mailbag is on Saturday. We will do the mailbag.

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It's on CBS Sports Radio, 10 p.m. to midnight Eastern on Saturday. You can hear it on Sirius Channel 206. Here are your news and notes. Drew Locke could start for Denver. We don't know yet. And Dave, the Lions need a quarterback. So who are they going to call? Call David Blau.

Call David Blau. That's his name. That name again is David Blau. Oh my God. Why so slow? I'm trying to sync it with you. That was terrible. You want to try again a little faster?

No. David Blau is going to start for Detroit. Running back. Damian Williams, unlikely to play with injured ribs. This is big, guys. Sean McCoy, as of last night, was only 68% owned. Darrell Williams, 14% owned. If you look at what they've done in three games without Williams,

either the two games that Williams missed outright and then week 11 when he left early, they've been good all three times. They've been worth using. I, how about this? Ready? Sitting down? I think I'm going to start Darrell Williams over Tevin Coleman in PPR. It's probably the right call.

Well, pick him up, especially McCoy. I don't hate it at first blush. I don't hate it. The touches will probably be the same. I mean, Tevin Coleman just, you know, he maxes out at about 16 total touches. Don't be surprised if Daryl Williams gets it. Yeah, and he's been getting two or three catches per game.

So at least it's not that big of a catch edge over Williams. Right. It's a little dicey, but it's obvious he's got the better matchup. Well, I'm surprised they're not more owned right now because they have a big opportunity. Well, you've got to remember what point of the season. Ten-team league, some people are out of it. They're not going to pick those guys up.

Yeah. But like if Damian Williams doesn't play, where are you going to rank McCoy and Daryl Williams? Well, what you're looking at is we have it ranked that way now. So I may tweak it a little bit, but they're both flexes for me as of now, because I think, you know, you're hoping for it's not going to be like what we saw in their last game against the Chargers where they both score. One probably scores. And so it's trying to guess which one doesn't find the end zone. I would lean McCoy more so than Darrell Williams. But I may move McCoy up a few spots.

Okay. And I'm stashing with Darrell Williams now. Good for you. As many spots as I can. Yeah. Not in my leagues. I already got him. James Conner mispracticed against Cleveland. And it's going to many spots as I can. Yeah. Not in my leagues. I already got him. James Conner mispractice

against Cleveland and it's going to be the Benny Snell show there. Hopefully he gets his work. Jordan Howard has not been cleared for contact so I think Miles Sanders is going to be a really interesting one this week. LaShawn McCoy or Miles Sanders? Sanders.

Sanders. Derek Henry has a hamstring injury. You still ranking Derek Henry as of now? Very highly. Yeah. Okay. Oh, interesting. I was watching.

There was a video of him working on his stiff arm drill. It was actually pretty cool. They just keep moving a helmet at different angles. And he was just standing on the sideline simulating running and then just kept hitting the helmet. It was pretty cool to watch. That's cool. Was it a Jaguars helmet? It was actually a Jaguars player.

He decided to come to practice and just move his head all around. They put Mariota in a Jaguars uni with a helmet, and they said, listen, we need you to be useful. Just stand around Derrick Henry for the next 30 minutes. Matt Breida could play this week at Baltimore. Wide receiver news. Golden Tate missed practice, so Sterling Shepard. Is he a top 20 wide receiver, Sterling Shepard? No. Top 30.

Yeah, closer to top 30. And don't discount Slayton. Yeah, no, they both have an opportunity here. I suggest the Giants will have to throw in this game against Green Bay. A.J. Green mispractice. Tyree Kill practiced in full. Adam Thielen mispractice.

He had a hamstring scare. So I don't know if you can rely on him. Do you have to go with Russell Gage and Anthony Miller? You probably have to. The fact that it's Monday, though, gives you at least one more day. The reason it's a little strange is because they were on a bye, so they came back early and practiced on Monday. And so he was full on Monday and then apparently suffered a little bit of a setback

in that practice where he wasn't satisfied, I guess, with how it's feeling. So their practice really starts today on Thursday. And so if they, if they do go, you know, given the fact that it's holiday, how hard they'll go. But yeah, you probably should play it safe. Now, the other side of it is you could, you know, there's no more bi-weeks. So there could be some receivers who are better than Russell Gage and Anthony Miller. Although those guys clearly have been, you know, either playing well, a good opportunity or both.

So, you know, just sort of no pun intended, but gauge it that way. But I will say this though, if you need a tight end, go pick up Kyle Rudolph. Yes.

Rudolph has been exceptional. Every time Adam Thielen has been off the field, like I I've been in tight end hell in one league because of Austin Hooper. And so I started the week, I picked up Delaney Walker, just to hope that he was going to come back. They placed him on IR. I dropped him for Jonu Smith.

And I was like, you know what? When I saw the Thielen news, I dropped Jonu for Rudolph and just hopefully Thielen doesn't play for that scenario. Right. And the Seahawks are awful against tight ends. So Rudolph could have a nice game,

maybe even with Thielen, but certainly without him. Hopefully. I like him more. Julio Jones is a game-time decision, but optimistic that he's going to play, as we told you. Juju Smith-Schuster out of the concussion protocol, but now it's the knee injury that he's still dealing with,

so it's not looking great for Juju. Mohamed Sanu was limited with an ankle injury, but he and Dorsett both look like they're going to play at Houston on Sunday night. T.Y. Hilton was limited in practice, and we still don't know. Is he in the same boat as Adam Thielen, where you have to start Anthony Miller or something like that ahead of Hilton or Randall Cobb or something?

I mean, again, you know, it depends. If you just want to take the guaranteed production of what these guys can give you today, then you probably do that. But if you want to wait it out, look, Hilton is clearly not having a great season, and, you know, you have to be worried about him at less than 100 percent. We saw last week, you know, the snap count he was on.

Will they do that again if he's still fighting through this? So every report I read seemed to be more optimistic that he was able to get in a limited practice. So I guess that's a good sign that he's going to play. But, you know, you're still talking about a guy you mentioned this time and time again, Adam, 54 yards a game is what he's averaging. And he's going to play. But you're still talking about a guy, you mentioned this time and time again, Adam, 54 yards a game is what he's averaging. And he's extremely touchdown dependent on a team that is clearly run heavy. And Alshon Jeffrey and Nelson Aguilar look like they're going to play.

And Taylor Gabriel is out at Detroit today. And that's why I keep bringing up Anthony Miller. Zach Ertz mispracticed with a hamstring injury. Are we concerned about Ertz right now? I wouldn't be concerned about him at this point. But if he continues to mispractice, then you've got to come up with a backupstring injury, are we concerned about Ertz right now? I wouldn't be concerned about him at this point, but if he continues to mispractice, then you've got to come up with a backup plan for him. His name is Dallas Goddard. That would be the best

backup plan for him, because if Ertz misses the game, Goddard would be able to step right in. It looks like Alshon Jeffrey is on his way back as well. Aguilar can play for whatever that's worth, but Ertz was basically acting as the number one receiver for the past couple of weeks. Huge blow to the Philly offense.

Oh, wait, they're playing Miami. They'll be okay. Yeah, the one thing that I think you hang your hat on is that apparently he's played through this for the last two weeks. And whether that's good or bad, he's making it worse, but they need to win. So even though it's Miami,

he, I'm sure, would like to be out there. And Dallas Goddard is only 66% owned, so you could take a look at him. Gerald Everett is questionable with a knee injury. You could take a look at Tyler Higby if Everett's out against Arizona. Delaney Walker out for the year like Jamie Menson. Johnnie Smith is only 14% owned. He had no targets last week, but he had like— Wait a minute. He did have one.

There was a penalty. It was a halfback toss. Derrick Henry threw a pass into the end zone for Johnnie Smith, and he drew a pass interference call that set up a Derrick Henry rushing touchdown. Oh, Derrick Henry knew what he was doing the whole time. Yeah, exactly. He's like, I'm not gonna

let this guy steal my touchdown. He throws it, and the defender messes with Johnnie Smith, and you know, smart guy that Derrick Henry. But yeah, Johnnie Smith is, you know, smart guy that Derek Henry, but yeah, Johnnie Smith is back on the radar. Yeah. And, and before that he had like five to seven targets in three straight games, something like that.

David, a joke who status for this week is uncertain. TJ Hawkinson expected to play today and Evan Ingram unlikely to play as far as the offensive line goes. Lane Johnson is going to play. He's at Miami. That's a great news for Carson Wentz. Buffalo center. Mitch Morse is going to play. He's at Miami. That's great news for Carson Wentz. Buffalo center Mitch Morse is questionable for today. The Saints are going to be without Teron Armstead and Andrews Peet,

two great linemen on the left side of their line. Do you downgrade any Saints because of that? No. I mean, the one thing that you just look at is part of the reason why the Falcons won the game three weeks ago was their pass rush was great. And so if they can get after Breeze again and make him uncomfortable again, I just think that the Saints are going to smash the Falcons after what happened

in that game. I'm a tad worried about the offensive line issue for New Orleans, but it's probably not enough to warrant sitting any of their key guys. The Patriots have the flu. I'm going to change it. Sit Michael Thomas.

He's not good. The Patriots have the flu. I'm going to change it. Sit Michael Thomas. He's not going to play. The Patriots have the flu, so hopefully they get better by Sunday. Marshawn Lattimore is probably going to be looking good to play. Jadeveon Clowney could be back this week. Miles Jack may not play for the Jaguars, who have the worst run defense in football. They won't miss him.

The Texans could get Bradley Roby back this week. He's a cornerback that's going to make their secondary perhaps even better. They've gotten healthy recently. And the Chargers are going to be without Michael Davis. He's suspended two games. He's a starting cornerback. He's already missed two games this year. In those two games, Kenny Galladay had 117 yards

and a touchdown. DeAndre Hopkins had a bad game, but Kenny Stills had 89 yards. It's hard to say, but he's a starting cornerback for one of the best secondaries in terms of at least fantasy points to wide receivers in the NFL. All right, let's get some stats to know.

Are they getting him back this week, Derwin James? That's the expectation. Oh, well, that's pretty big. Okay. Just one thing in the Zacherts conversation, and if Evan Ingram and Red Ellison are out, Caden Smith had five catches last week, and now he's facing a team that really stinks against tight ends.

So if you are stuck there, that could be something. Are we talking about that game today? No, tomorrow. We were talking about seven or eight AFC home games. There are actually nine of them, because there are three NFC home games today on Thanksgiving, and we'll save Cleveland and Pittsburgh for tomorrow. We'll see what else we can get to. Alright, here we go.

Stats to know. Let's get into starter set. The Patriots. 7.82 fantasy points per game allowed to quarterbacks. 7.82 to quarterbacks. That's the best in the NFL. I went back and looked at the last five years. They're

three and a half points better than any other team. The weird thing is that the Niners actually allow fewer passing yards per game, but the Patriots are giving up like they've given up four passing touchdowns all year and they have, I think, 20 interceptions or something. It's the best secondary football.

It's insane. And Deshaun Watson, you guys were actually a little higher on Watson than I thought you'd be. I don't remember off the top of my head. Deshaun Watson, you guys were actually a little higher on Watson than I thought you'd be. I don't remember off the top of my head. Deshaun Watson. I've got him sixth. Yeah. Jamie, you think top ten?

Thirteen. Thirteen, sixth, and tenth for me. And I feel like that's too high. Nervous. We saw him two games ago struggle against a tough defense. I mean, it's going to be the same thing. He's going to struggle. It's just a matter of who you are. I got a question this morning. I did a little

ask FFT this morning, Nick Foles or Deshaun Watson, and it may be pause. I mean, Foles got a much better matchup. Wouldn't be surprised if he's better. I mean, and you look last week, you know, Watson played well, 22 points. You know, I mean, I think he'll be 18 to 20.

I can't see him getting much higher than that because every quarterback stinks against this team and he's had his struggles against them as well. I think he'll be 18 to 20. I can't see him getting much higher than that because every quarterback stinks against this team, and he's had his struggles against them as well. I think he runs a bunch, and I think in the end with a healthy receiving core, which he didn't have quite the last time he played against them. It was week one of last year. I think he throws a lot. I think he runs a lot, and I think he falls into good production.

Next stat to know, Jimmy Garoppolo facing Baltimore on the road this week. In five games with Emmanuel Sanders he is averaging 8.34 yards per attempt, that is just terrific, he's on pace for 4,500 yards and 42 touchdowns It's nice when you play Arizona

He is a sit this week, so I'm not even going to make it a starter sit, but it's just something to know, Garoppolo, great numbers with Sanders this year. Well, he's got at Baltimore this week, at New Orleans next week. Let's see what those numbers look like after those games. Sure. All right, here's a good one.

I don't know. I think this one's going to fall. 14 straight running backs with 15 or more carries against the Bengals have had either 91 rushing yards or a touchdown i guess levy i can get the touchdown i don't know that he's getting 91 yards i don't think he's had 70 yards rushing all year but no but he can get over 100 total yards yeah start bell but i just love that stat 14 straight running backs with 15 or more carries have had either 91 rushing yards or a touchdown against the Bengals.

All right. This one's amazing. The Jaguars have the worst run defense in football. They are giving up 5.62 yards per carry to running backs, the highest in the NFL. I love Ron Jones. Yeah. Do you, though?

Because I feel like it's a trap. Like Phillip Lindsay had a great matchup last week, and Devin Singletary's had some great matches. They haven't had huge games. The Jaguars are so bad against the run. They're so bad against the run. Now, he's not going to go for like 150. He's not going to have the Derrick Henry game,

but he can go for 80 in a touchdown. He had what would have been a 97-yard touchdown run called back early last week, and the offensive line now that it's healthy seems to be blocking a little bit better for him and he had that one week where he had the big game 100 yards eight catches touchdown everybody remembers that and then the week after that when bruce arians called him a work in progress his playing time went way down it bounced back and now they have a franchise low rushing attempts yeah right and so now i i think

he's got a good opportunity in a game that they should have a lead in to carry the ball and do it well and now arians is talking about ron jones like he's so close to breaking one we can feel it everybody wants him to get it so i i share your excitement for him i think he's a top 15 running back this week yeah i'm top 12 i would start him over girly i'd start him over barkley I would start him over Gurley. I'd start him over Barkley. I'd start him over Lindsey. I'd start him over... I mean, I guess get the point.

I mean, Gurley's playing Arizona, so I can't quite do that, and I can't bring Barkley to go behind Ronald Jones against Green Bay, but I do like him a lot. I'm with you on Lindsey. Alright, I'm going to give you a great stat on Josh Jacobs, and if you think that they are going to get blown out, why you should be maybe a little

hesitant to start Josh Jacobs at Kansas City because the weather is going to be under 40 degrees and it's bad, but it's under 50 degrees for Derek Carr. We're going to take a quick break. That was under 65 degrees for him. 65? The stat I had was 50.

Wasn't he 2-8 in games under 65 degrees? The stat I had was 50. Wasn't he 2-8 in games under 65 degrees? The stat I had last week was under 50. 55? It was 55? Under 50. Yeah. But under 80 degrees, Derek Carr really struggles. All right.

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four blowout losses and he has scored nine, four, 13, and three fantasy points in non-PPR and nine, four, 16, and four fantasy points in PPR. He has 10 to 12 carries in three of those four blowout losses. So not good. Dave, you're the low guy on Josh Jacobs, actually. I think you have him 14th in non, 18th in PPR, but Dave and Heath have him as a top 12 guy. Yeah, well, I'm worried about the workload that he's going to get.

Right. So do you guys think it'll be a lopsided win? I do. I do, but I think part of the way this game unfolded the first time these two teams met was when Jacobs left the game with a shoulder injury because they were hanging with the Chiefs because you can run on the Chiefs.

So that's what they're going to try and do. I'm still going to start Josh Jacobs. I'm not benching. All right, then. Start, sit, or flex at best. Tyrell Williams at Kansas City. Sit. Flex at best. Tyrell Williams at Kansas City. Sit. Flex at best. Kansas City running backs against Oakland.

I guess we already answered that. Yeah, flex. Like, would you start them over Tyrell Williams? Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes, yes. Sammy Watkins in this game.

Sammy Watkins in any game. Sit. Flex at back. Jameson Crowder at Cincinnati. He is a good start in PPR and a flex in non. Tyler Boyd against the Jets.

Must start. Agreed. Who do you like better, Crowder or Boyd? Boyd. I believe it's Boyd. That is so interesting to me. Really? Okay. Why? so interesting to me, really. Okay. Why? Well, I mean, I think if you just look at the games that Darnold has played with Crowder,

he's been better than Tyler Boyd. I mean, he's got touchdowns. Yeah, but I think both have good matchup. I think you're going to see, you know, this death secondary has just been so bad to opposing receivers all season long. I feel like they're getting better, though. They've got this Austin kid playing corner who's better.

They were better for one week. And Brian Poole. Two weeks, I guess. Brian Poole's okay in the slot, but I just think the target volume is going to bounce back up for Tyler Boyd with Andy Dalton there. Look at the targets with Dalton playing for Boyd versus Ryan Finley. Yeah, he's been better. I mean, look, last week was a great game for him. Tyler Boyd.

Because he got a huge pass. In eight games with Andy Dalton. Let me see if I can get this stat. He's been right around six for 62 as an average. He was on pace for 102 catches, 1,072 yards, and two touchdowns on 164 targets, 10 targets per game for Tyler Boyd. All right, start, sit, or flex at best.

Alshon Jeffrey at Miami. I think you have to find a way to start him. Yeah. Because it's Miami. How does he compare to the two receivers we just talked about, Crowder and Boyd? I've got Jeffrey ahead of both. One spot ahead of Boyd.

I like Boyd and Crowder better, but they're all right there. Okay, and then finally, Miles Sanders at Miami. I would start him as a number two running back. Must start. Bonus, Devontae Parker against the Eagles. Parker ahead of all of them. I've got him as a high-end PPR flex, because Philadelphia is another secondary that's been getting better

the last few weeks. Hasn't mattered for him against any secondary. He's been awesome. He's got 10 targets or more in three straight games. He's been a matchup bust. He's been double-digit PPR points like every week, but I bet he's under 15 PPR this week. Okay.

All right, here we go. Let's go to the Patriots at the Texans. One of the stats I was going to give was just about how great the Patriots have been against quarterbacks. I know that the competition hasn't been great, but they legitimately are just a lockdown secondary. Here's your other stat of the game. The Texans, they have gotten better against wide receivers. They have not allowed more than eight non-PPR or 13 PPR fantasy points to a wide receiver in any of their last three games. That was Jacksonville, Baltimore, and the Colts. In their last three games, only Keelan Cole has more than 32 yards

against the Texans, and only Seth Roberts has a touchdown catch. So they've been a lot better. Let's talk about the Patriots first, and specifically their passing game. Dave, you're more optimistic than Jamie. Jamie and Heath have Tom Brady around 20th. He's an absolute sit. You have Brady 13th. So let's start with that. What did Bill Belichick say when he was on the NFL 100 show this week and they asked him just about being a great coach and he referenced Sun Tzu and the art of war. Attack your opponent's weaknesses, cater to your

strengths, attack relentlessly, stuff like that. So then they're going to run all over them? What? No, that's not the Texans' weakness. Their weakness is in their secondary. Look at them lately. They cannot stop the run. Oh, I'd have to disagree with that.

Look at them lately, the last two games. They cannot stop the run. Jonathan Williams averaged four yards per carry. He just had 25 of them. You know, it wasn't like he 26 carries for 104 yards. No, I think you've got to give Jonathan Williams credit for having a good game. He had a good game. He didn 25 of them. It wasn't like he 26 carries for 104 yards. No, I think you've got to give Jonathan Williams credit for having a good game. He had a good game. He didn't crush them.

I mean, the Ravens absolutely did. Right. And I almost throw that out because that's exactly what the Ravens do. But I was visibly upset watching the game last Thursday when the Colts weren't throwing downfield against Houston very often. When you don't have the tools to throw with, very similar to the Patriots, you're going to do what your strength is right now. The Patriots are coming off a game where they actually ran the ball well. I can't say that's

their strength. They have their lowest yards per carry in the Belichick-Brady era. That's almost two decades. They have no strength. They're healthy, though. Where are they healthy? Because Dorsett's back. And Sanu. What's the difference if he has both those guys?

Looks like he's going to have both, right? Exactly what they're going to do is throw the ball. So I toyed with the idea of putting Brady in my top 12 this week. And you see it first. I'd much rather start Darnold and Tannehill and Foles and Dalton over Tom Brady right now. Yeah, well, I agree with you on half of those guys. Darnold, Tannehill and Foles and Dalton over Tom Brady right now.

Yeah, well, I agree with you on half of those guys. Darnold, Tannehill, I'm in. I'll take the guys with the easier matchups that have actually played better aside from Darnold, but he has a better matchup. Oh, yeah, look, I mean, I don't want to sit here and make it sound like we're in love with Tom Brady or Davis. He's got him 13th, so you should probably try to get away from Tom Brady.

But I guess the question is really more about the wide receivers. And other than Edelman, are you starting any of them? No. I need to know if Sanu's healthy or not. Because if Sanu's playing, I think he's an okay flex in PPR. And if he's not, then I think Jacoby Myers is an okay flex in PPR. And Dorsett in non-PPR would be a number four wide receiver. And just to make this simple, you guys are sitting the Patriots running backs.

They're all outside the top 24. Even James White in PPR, he's like 30th. So just not involved right now. It would surprise me one bit if he ended up having a sizable role. I know last week we got the Fooled You game. Yeah. I just wonder how much of that was a byproduct of the weather and the fact that their defense was just completely dominant

against the Cowboys when they couldn't do anything with the weather. It's probably going to be the same thing again this week. Their defense is dominant every week. Well, there's a dome. There won't be any weather issue this week. Their defense is dominant every week. Yeah. So if you are stuck starting James White, I will give you a reason

to be thankful on this day. The Texans allowed the second most receiving yards, two running backs, seven running backs have had five or more catches against the Texans, eight running backs have had 40 or more receiving yards, and Mark Ingram caught two touchdowns, and Devontae Freeman

and Damian Williams also caught touchdowns. So, all right. So, you know, if he were playing better, we'd probably love James White, but he just hasn't done much. Over to the Texans and Deshaun Watson, who we already got into a little bit, but Jamie's got him 13th. Dave has him sixth. Heath is in the middle at 10th. Jamie, you just have no faith in anybody going against the Pats. It's been proven time and time again. I get it. He's an awesome player.

He has always the chance to be a matchup bust anytime there's a tough matchup against him. You've seen it now from this defense over and over and over again. There's been one player who has solved this defense and he is the best player in football right now.

And it's Lamar Jackson. And so I, I think Stefan Gilmore is going to make things very difficult for Deandre Hopkins. So there's one Avenue that the Sean Watson is going to struggle throwing against because he's had trouble throwing against Stefan Gilmore in their tenure, uh,

in their matchups against each other. And I don't think Will Fuller beating up the defense that he beat up last week is an indication of him all of a sudden taking advantage of the secondary. So I think Watson is going to have a rough game. The biggest hesitation I have with saying Watson is a start quarterback

is that while Bill Belichick is reading The Art of War, Bill O'Brien is reading Green Eggs and Ham. Because they just, I wish I could look at the Texans and say, okay, they're a smart team that can scheme up. We've seen it a million times. They scheme up against opposing defenses. They just don't do it.

They do the same thing pretty much every week. But that thing that they do is usually good. And I can't imagine that they're going to be in a situation where they're going to run the a situation where they're going to run the ball a ton against New England. Because I believe New England's going to put points on the board. It's going to force Deshaun Watson to play. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a season

high in rushing yards. I think he could run for a score. And I think he can throw one touchdown on top of it. And I wouldn't rule out 250 to 275 yards from him. Here's what we've seen from Deshaun Watson so far this season, because he's had quite a few bad games by what his stature is. Jacksonville, when their defense was healthy in week two, 12 fantasy points. Carolina, when their defense was

playing well, when their pass was great, 11 fantasy points. Indianapolis, when their defense was healthy, 17 fantasy points. And then Baltimore, three fantasy points. So he's had some stinkers already this season. And now you're telling me he's going to go up against the best defense and have one of his better games? I'll bet against it. And then you look at what sports line, how they have it projected. This is amazing. You ready for some of the quarterbacks

they have projected ahead of Deshaun Watson? Go ahead. I think 30th? 30th? Let me count it for you. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Oh, you're killing me. 11. All right, guys.

We really got to get... We got eight games today. 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24. He's the 25th ranked quarterback based on projections. Behind Trubisky, Mayfield. Tannehill. Carr. Rivers. Allen.

Jones. Kyler. The list goes on and on. I'll tell you what, it's not going to surprise me if he's in this range. I would feel like such a heel if I sat Deshaun Watson and he went off for 25 plus. What if you sat him and he went for three like he did against Baltimore? Like Dak did. Like Dak had. What's the number him and he went for three like he did against Baltimore?

What's the number, Adam? Dak was horrible. What, the Patriots give up seven-ish points per game? Dak was horrible last week. Dak had six points last week. He did better than what he did against Baltimore. Before we get to Hopkins, why, Jamie, are we sitting Carlos Hyde? He's outside the top 30 for everyone. Because he doesn't catch the

ball. He's touchdown dependent, and I don't think they're going to be playing with a lead in this game, so I would not trust the Carlos side. Okay. DeAndre Hopkins, start or sit? Lowered expectations, but I would still start him. I would start him as a lower-end number two receiver this week. He had a lot easier to do in PPR.

Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what. His track record against not just the Patriots, but against Stephon Gilmore is not good. But it's around 15 PPR points and around 7 non-PPR points. That's interesting because I looked at him

in tough matchups this year. Saints, Jaguars, Chargers, Panthers, Chiefs, believe it or not, and the Jaguars even without Jalen Ramsey. And I had him as eight fantasy points in non-PPR and 15 fantasy points in PPR per game. And that would make him, for the year,

actually the number 33 wide receiver, eight points per game in non-PPR, but 16th in PPR. So he's a much better start in PPR, DeAndre Hopkins. And yeah, he doesn't have great history against the Patriots. Five, five, six, seven, and seven non-PPR points in his last five games against them. But better in PPR, like 12, 14, and 15 PPR points in his last three games against the Patriots. So like Jamison Crowder, Devontae Parker, Tyler Boyd,

are they ahead of DeAndre Hopkins? Yes. No. Okay. Davis is obviously higher on the Texans offense this week. That's obvious there. How about like Austin Eckler or Hopkins? Eckler.

Eckler. Okay. Will Fuller, start or sit? Sit. I think he's, I think, and the temptation's going to be there for people to start him after what happened last week, but try and fight it.

Because if there's one guy that I think that could be just too risky in this Texans offense, I think it's him. Okay. He could be the X factor in this game, because Hopkins, or sorry, Watson's numbers in his career are just eye-popping Texans offense. I think it's him. He could be the X factor in this game. Watson's numbers in his career are just eye-popping when Fuller's healthy. We've seen what he can do.

If he can get going, they've got a chance here. Patriots, DSD, 6th, 7th, and 9th for Jamie. Adam, where do you come out on those guys? Watson and Hopkins? I have no interest in Watson this week. Wow. I really don't. I think he could be terrible.

I think he could be absolutely terrible. And then Hopkins, I think I'd start. I can't imagine. I have three receivers I like better, but I think I would start Devontae Parker over him, but I wouldn't start Crowder or Boyd over him. It's scary how good they've been against Beckham and Cooper had zero catches.

They've been so good. San Francisco at Baltimore. Here's an interesting stat. A wide receiver has 80 yards or a touchdown in all but one game against the Ravens, even with Jimmy Smith back. So not like they're terrible against wide receivers, but usually one does okay.

Is Sanders or Samuel going to do all right against the Ravens? No. I wouldn't trust them. Who are the starts for anybody other than Kittle for the Niners? No. That's the only one I'd feel decent about, and I don't even feel that great about it because it's the Ravens,

and I completely buy into everything that they're doing. Okay. I've got Coleman 26th in PPR behind Jamal Williams, Tariq Cohen, and I'm even questioning if that's too high. Yeah, I have lower than that. It's funny because I looked after you said you'd start Damian Williams over Coleman.

I have them two spots apart with Coleman ahead right now. I think when we find out that Damian Williams is ruled out, they'll probably move Darrell up. How about Matt Breida coming back and we could see like a three-headed rotation there? There's already been a three-headed rotation. Right, but it hasn't been like a third, a third, and a third. It's been a little bit of Jeff Wilson and then the other two guys. I think they go back to what the rotation has been with Mostert getting a couple touches here and there.

I wonder if Coleman's played himself out of a gig. He's only had seven runs of five-plus yards in his last four games. Did you? I had that stat. You came up with that too? Yeah. Oh, very good. What do you think I do all day?

Well, I didn't know if you took that from me, which is fine. No, I promise. We overlapped our work. No, I don't want to start Tevin Coleman at all. I'm going to sit him for Darrell Williams in one league. I'm going to look at this other league right now. I'm sitting him for Benny Snell. And I also have Darrell Williams in that league.

And I'm sitting him for Jonathan Williams in that. Well, obviously, that's an easy one. Yeah, I'm going to sit him for Benny Snell, even though I don't think Snell is going to have a great game. But I just have, like, no faith in that. Yeah. Well, obviously, that's an easy one. Yeah, I'm going to sit him for Benny Snell, even though I don't think Snell is going to have a great game, but I just have no faith in him,

and the Ravens' run defense has been just absolutely dominant. Three straight games. Forget it. I don't even need to get into it. They've been dominant,

and we're going to sit the wide receivers, start Kittle, and Lamar Jackson is a top three quarterback. He's 1-1-3 for Jamie, Dave, and Heath. Mark Ingram.

So how do we feel about Mark Ingram? You just start him and don't worry about it. Okay. And the Niners, they do allow the third fewest fantasy points to running backs. They allow the fewest receiving yards to running backs. But this is a team that does not care about your stats and your matchups. They destroy you.

Marquise Brown, start or sit? I'd sit him if he can. Don't chase touchdowns. What about targets? Seven targets with the most runs since week two. It was the most runs for week two. This is a tougher secondary that he's facing, tougher defense that he's facing.

He's a boomer bus number three receiver. I think that's going to be the case with him every week. You put him in the same boat as Will Fuller, right? I'd start him over Will Fuller this week. Okay, but I'm just saying as far as upside goes, crazy sky high at upside could potentially finish the game with two catches for 12 yards it's a very strange scenario because uh even with mark andrews and the only reason andrews gets a little bit of a separate categories because of the position he plays you don't know

what they're going to do to be successful with lamar jackson they are just successful so like we saw last week willie sneed had the two touchdowns. Andrews did nothing. Marquise Brown had two touchdowns. Two of the previous three weeks, he does nothing. So there's no rhyme or reason to why. You know when Tom Brady's good, Julian Edelman's playing well. You know when Deshaun Watson's playing well,

the receivers are going off. With Mahomes, it's Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. With Lamar Jackson, he's doing everything himself. And so he doesn't need those guys to play well for him to have success. He doesn't throw for that many yards, you know? So it's not great for the pass catchers. It's a good thing rushing yards count for something in fantasy football. They sure do.

Would you start Tevin Coleman or Marquise Brown? Not PPR. I think you could go with Brown. I would probably just take my chances with Brown with the upside play. Devin Coleman, you're basically saying he has to score, and he scored once, and it was the easiest touchdown

you could find last week. Right. Yeah, I mean, you're right. It's almost like a crapshoot. Brown could have a huge game. I'm not even sure the matchups matter. You're right. I'm not waiting for it. I'm not even sure the matchups matter. It's just... You're right.

I'm not waiting for... I'm doing... I'm putting Daryl... Let's do it. Yeah. All right. The Niners against tight ends. They give up the second fewest fantasy points to tight ends.

They haven't really been tested. There's only been one tight end who's had more than five targets against the Niners. That was Jacob Hollister, and he had eight catches, 62 yards, and a touchdown. Meanwhile, Mark Andrews has had three to four targets in three of his last four games. And he's had seven to nine targets in his other eight games. So you just don't know, but it's hard to sit him. Like, would you start maybe like a Ryan Griffin over a Mark Andrews?

No, I'm not there. I would start Ryan Griffin over Mark Andrews. They're both touchdown dependent, and Griffin has been more successful over the last five games than Andrews has. Gee, do we like the Ravens' DST this week? They are number one or two for everyone. And we go to our next game. Yeah, I mean, the only defense I think you probably feel more comfortable with

or you should is the Bears today because of David Blau. Okay, cool. Tampa Bay at Jacksonville is our next game here. We know how bad the Jacksonville run defense is. Ronald Jones or Mark Ingram? I think I have Ingram ranked higher, but I like them both. Yeah, I'm probably going to switch that. You're going to go with Jones over Ingram?

Yep. Wow. Jameis Winston or Deshaun Watson? No, no, I'm still going with Ingram over Desha Wow. Jameis Winston or Deshaun Watson? No, no. I'm still going Ingram over Jones. Jameis, easy. You might have sold me on Jameis over Watson. Okay. Just because...

Jameis has, what, seven games? Six games in a row with 300 or more yards passing. Eight of his last nine. He's been five of those six games over 20 fantasy points. What are the odds that both he and Ronald Jones have huge games? Like, part of the reason why Ronald Jones had that huge game a couple weeks ago was because he caught eight passes. So that obviously helps Jameis out.

I mean, part of the reason is because Jameis is going to throw a pick six. Okay. I think Jacksonville's offense will score. I mean, Jacksonville keeps getting blown out. Their quarterbacks have thrown 47 or 48 passes three straight games. It's crazy. They have not been competitive. You think that throwing a lot of passes will lead to huge numbers,

and it might lead to good yardage. And Jameis has run for 37 or more yards in three straight games. No, I'm not. I think it's, look, Tannehill and Derrick Henry were good last week. Yeah. Yeah, Tannehill ran for two touchdowns. Well, Jameis is top seven for everyone. So you're going to start Jameis Winston.

You're going to start Ronald Jones. You're going to start Godwin and Evans. And you're going to sit the tight ends. Okay. How about the Jaguars? They're a little bit trickier. So obviously the case for Nick Foles is he is facing one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL. And if we like Winston and we like Ronald Jones, he's probably going to have to throw because that's what they do.

They throw. Start or sit Nick Foles. Where do you guys have him ranked? There's a group of quarterbacks that include Watson, Foles, Cousins. Mayfield, is he in that group? No. He's below him? Much. is he in that group? No. He's below him? Much.

Matt Ryan in that group? Yes. Garoppolo, probably not in that group. Kyle Allen in that group? Who's my favorite? Oh, Dalton. It's Dalton, Foles, Watson, Ryan, Cousins that I think all are 18 to 20 points max.

Well, I got to tell you, man, I think you're underselling Baker Mayfield if he's below all these guys. They are going to smash the Browns this week. Yeah, but he's been 18-20 against Seattle, Denver, Buffalo, Pittsburgh. I don't care. I don't think Baker

is a top 12 guy, but I think he belongs in that group for sure. I don't think he has Baker ranked. I saw that the other day. Because they're just going to run, run, run, run, run? No, they're not going to score. I don't know, man. He's been playing well. He has been playing well.

But this is in Pittsburgh. He has not played well. He has no games over 20 fantasy points on the road this year. All of his good games have come at home lately. The Steelers defense is going to be fired up. The building is going to be fired up. This is going to be a tough game for the Browns. Oh, my God.

The Browns are going to beat them. The Steelers's going to be fired up. This is going to be a tough game for the Browns. Oh my God. The Browns are going to beat them. The Steelers suck. They have duck Hodges. The Steelers' defense is still exceptional. They are a bad team. They are the biggest phony. Yes, they do have a good defense. But they are a great defense. They're a below bad offense. They're a dreadful offense.

He does not have Baker Mayfield ranked. Wow. Okay. I'm excited to talk about that one tomorrow. Yeah. So Foles is in the 18 to 20 fantasy point range? Is that what we're thinking? I think he's got more, he's got a chance for a higher ceiling just because Tampa Bay, I know they were great last week, but I think that's just because the Falcons are struggling right now.

Foles, I think, is probably the one that could leap up of this group, leap over this group just based on if he plays well, I'm just worried about he could get pulled in this game because he's been playing so poorly. His arm does not look right. Obviously, you know what Minshew did for this team earlier this season. It's a home game.

You know, the crowd, if he starts to struggle, is going to start, you know, chanting for Minshew mania. So that's my only concern with falls that they get off to a bad start and he's struggling. I can see him getting pulled.

Do you have any concerns about Leonard Fournette against one of the best run defense? Nope. His involvement in the passing game is a huge factor there. What about the wide receivers? I gave the stat on the Waiver Wire show that since week one, so beginning

in week two, the Buccaneers have allowed either 70 or more yards to multiple wide receivers or a touchdown catch to multiple wide receivers in every game. They give up, I think, the most, maybe the second most fantasy points to wide receivers the most. What are we thinking here? Who do we like? I guess I'm standing by.

I mean, I'm standing by them. And Westbrook, I think, is worth buying into. Conley's also worth buying into. Those guys are, you know, borderline number three, number four receivers. I like Westbrook a little bit better because I think he's more talented. But they're probably going to end up having to throw the ball 40 plus times again. That's just what they've been. But they've done that.

They did that last week. Chark didn't have a great game. Yeah, but two games ago, Chark was awesome. And Westbrook was terrible. It's almost like Tampa Bay. There's been multiple occasions where one receiver's great and one's not so good. So you just have to understand that

Keelan Cole's going to get his targets. Nick O'Leary's now going to get some targets. Obviously, Fournette's going to get his targets. So it's not going to be all of them being successful. You just look at what the track record has been. DJ Chark's been a very good receiver, and Westbrook, more times than not, has been better than Conlon.

Where do you have Chark ranked? Is he top 12? Top 10. I feel a little dirty having him that high. Ahead of Hopkins. That's an easy one. Yeah, I get that one, but I don't know about some of the other guys.

I just want to give this stat real quick. Three games with Nick Foles. I looked at the seven passes or whatever that he threw in week one. I don't remember what it was. But D.D. Westbrook has 12 catches for 101 yards on 15 targets. And Chris Conley has 11 catches for 128 yards on 19 targets. Pretty similar stats.

Conley does have four more targets. But Westbrook's 60% owned and Conley's 13% owned. And maybe we like Westbrook better, but perhaps the gulf shouldn't be that big in between the two. Therefore, if you're in a deep league and Chris Conley's available at 13% owned, he might be a nice option for you if you need help. Tight ends. Look, they don't have a good tight end, but Nick O'Leary is a sleeper. He had four targets last week.

The Bucs have given up six tight ends, have caught a touchdown against the Bucs, and most of them have had a lot of targets, but, you know, whatever. I'm not going to sit here and say start Nick O'Leary, but he's a name to know. Tennessee is at Indianapolis, and so this is something that should favor Jacoby Brissett.

The Titans see the third most pass attempts per game in the NFL. When he throws a lot, he's really good. But going into last week, the Texans saw the fourth most pass attempts in the NFL. And Jacoby Brissett threw 25 times. So Nick Foles, is he ahead of Jacoby Brissett? Yes, he is. Okay. I assume a lot of people are ahead of Jacoby Brissett? Yes, he is. Okay. I assume a lot of people are ahead of Jacoby Brissett.

Yeah. I mean, I'm frustrated still. Remember I told you that I was frustrated and yelling at my TV when I was watching the Colts play last Thursday? It's been a week. I'm still mad. Who are you starting? Let's see what this offense is.

Yeah. Well, who are you starting Jonathan Williams over? Lindsey. I'd start him over Coleman. How about starting him over Coleman? What about Chris Carson? I'd start him over Chris Carson in both formats. I like Singletary better.

I've got him over Singletary. How about wide receivers? Would you start Jonathan Williams or DeAndre Hopkins? I'd start Williams. I would go Williams in non-PPR. I'd stick with Nuke in full PPR. Yeah. I mean, you basically have to treat Williams like you would treat Marlon Mack.

Workload, performance, everything seems to be the same. Are you going to start any of the wide receivers for the Colts? No. So even if Hilton plays? Number three receiver. I think TY is close to a low-end number two receiver. All right. Adam, you say the numbers every week.

54 yards is what he's averaging. Right, but here's what gives me a little bit of hope. If he can stay healthy and play. They've lost their red zone target leader. They've lost their touchdown guy in Eric Ebron. Not only could he score, I think the chances are good. He could obviously score, but he also could be standing on the sideline for half the game because of what we saw last week.

Yeah, I know. I know. It sucks. So like you said, if he's healthy, right now he's not healthy. I think I'm going to have to start Randall Cobb or Anthony Miller or something over him. Although I might just wait for – maybe I'll start Brandon Cooks. But it's either going tos. I have Cobb, I have Brandon Cooks, and I have T.Y. Hilton for one spot. With Cobb, you may get a practice report before they play. With Miller, you're not going to. I don't have Miller, actually.

It's going to be T.Y. Hilton versus Randall Cobb. I'm going to have to make that decision today. Is it PPR? It's non-PPR.'s going to be T.Y. Hilton versus Randall Cobb. I'm going to have to make that decision today. Is it PPR? It's non-PPR. I mean, I'd go with T.Y. It's always better to be safe if he's not going to play

or be limited. Damn it. I hate this. And Randall Cobb has been better than T.Y. Hilton. You know, it's not like you're just saying I'm going to pick player X

off the waiver wire who hasn't shown me anything. Randall Cobb has shown you plenty in the last three weeks. Yeah. He may have more targets in the last three weeks than T.Y. Hilton has in his last five games.

Okay, well, sorry. I don't want to make this about me. Let's go... Oh, Jack Doyle. How much do you like Jack Doyle this week? He's top 12. Yeah, okay. Top 12. Low-end starter. You start him over like Greg Olson?

Yes. No. No? Yes? No? Okay. He's close. If Zach Ertz plays, would you play Jack Doyle or Dallas Goddard? Goddard. Doyle. All right. Well, they're all going to be in the same range, but you can definitely go

with Jack Doyle, and he might be good rest of season. You never know. For the Titans, this is not necessarily a great matchup, but it hasn't really mattered for Tannehill. Are you believing in Ryan Tannehill this week? Yes.

What's the argument to not believe in Ryan Tannehill? He's not going up against a dangerous defense. At least I don't think the Colts are that dangerous. How many years did he play with the Dolphins? I think you throw all of it dangerous. How many years did he play with the Dolphins? I have like five, six years. I think you throw all of it out, dude, because he just does not look like the same quarterback. He'll still make the occasional bad throw,

but he's playing better under pressure. He's running the ball more. He's finding the end zone more often. He might be playing his best football right now, and the Titans are definitely leaning on his strengths. It's exciting to see. Okay. Now, six straight quarterbacks had failed to score 20 points against the Colts

before Nick Foles had 21 and then Deshaun Watson had 22. So it's eight straight quarterbacks have scored 22 or fewer against the Colts, and that includes Watson twice and Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, their secondary has been giving up some numbers, especially on the outside. That's good news for A.J. Brown, and maybe it's good news for Corey Davis. We'll see if that matters. But you know where this offense is going to go. They're going to lean on Derrick Henry, and then this is really where

Ryan Tannehill has been great. The play action and the bootleg stuff where he runs outside, easy to find throws for him. It's the secret to the success that he's having. Okay. I'm going to give you a sneaky bust that will be started in 100% of leagues. And his name is Derek Henry. He has had several tough matchups this year and he has not done well in pretty much all of them. Three out of four are really tough matches. Anyway, the Colts in their last nine games, they have not allowed more than 10 fantasy points

in non-PPR or 12 fantasy points in PPR to any running back other than Jalen Samuels. So that is nine games of being very good against the run. But you're starting Derrick Henry. I could see him struggling, but I still think you're looking at a floor of probably 60 to 80 yards

rushing, 60 to 75 yards rushing, and I think he still scores. He had 82 yards rushing and a touchdown against them. Yeah, they actually were really bad against the run back then. They were like an easy matchup. Since their bye week, they've been such a good defense. Well, they got Darius Leonard back,

and that probably has helped them out. But I would caution, they took on the Texans. They don't have a great run game. The Jaguars, Leonard Fournette had only eight carries in that game. The Dolphins, they don't have a good run game. The Steelers, you mentioned Jalen Samuels, had the touchdown catch against them. They didn't play with James Conner in that game.

Now he had the 13 catches in that game. And then Denver had, they didn't have a good rushing average, but Roy Streaman found the end zone. All right, let's see. Let's see what happens. I think they've taken on a lot of softer run games, and that's probably the reason why that stat is what it is. Okay, that's a good call.

A.J. Brown, you like him this week? He's 44% owned. Good sleeper. I'm putting him in that same high upside bin as Marquise Brown and Will Fuller. He's probably a little ahead of them. He just doesn't get a lot of targets. That's the problem. Would you start him over T.Y. Hilton, A.J. Brown or T.Y. Hilton?

I've got Hilton ahead right now. Right now I'd start Hilton, but it could be closer if he continues to be limited practice. I'd love to see them get him more involved, man. He's a lot of fun. John U. Smith or Jack Doyle? Doyle. Doyle. Okay.

You guys... That's close. All right. Two of the three of you have John U. Smith ranked as a sit. Dave has him 14th. Yeah. I mean, he's just been so uninspiring without... It's almost like when Tannehill came back the first couple games, he looked really good with Tannehill,

and then he just disappeared as the... You've seen A.J. Brown come to life. Tajay Sharpe's had a couple of good games. Corey Davis here or there. It's just inconsistent. They spread the ball around a lot, and they don't throw the ball a ton. So it's kind of a problem. That's why you can't be more excited about A.J. Brown. All right, let's see if we can knock out these last three games

in about 10 or 15 minutes. And they are Philadelphia at Miami, the Chargers and the Broncos. Maybe we should save that for tomorrow. And the Chiefs and the Raiders. Philly, Miami, 12 out of 15 wide receivers with six or more targets against the Dolphins have 76 yards or a touchdown. So Alshon Jeffrey is someone that we certainly like this week. And Carson Wentz is a top 10 quarterback.

If Zach Ertz is out, would that change? Yeah. Was that a no, Jamie? It would change for me. Okay. Yeah, look, this is a start them all, sit them all kind of game. But tell me what you expect for Miles Sanders, because Jay Ajayi did get six carries.

Could he get more? Sanders hasn't had more than 12 carries in the last two games that Jordan Howard missed. What do you think? I mean, I know he hasn't been great, but he's seen a lot of playing time, like 85% of the snaps since Jordan Howard's been sidelined. And if he's getting that much playing time against Miami, I would imagine he's going to have a very good game. He's had at least three catches in all but one of his last seven games and nine of 12 running backs with at least 13 touches against Miami have had 10 or more non PPR fantasy points. And one of the three who didn't was just Gus Edwards. He was grinding down the clock early on. Uh, I like him as a number two running back this week. I also think

he's great on FanDuel. His price is only $5,800. It seems way low for a running back, a lead back going up against the Dolphins. Miles Sanders or Jonathan Williams? I have Williams higher. I'll take Williams in non-PPR, Sanders in PPR. Any interest in Jay Ajayi?

Revenge game. If you're stuck. He could have the blowout fourth quarter touchdown. Okay, where is he with Tevin Coleman? Ajayi? Yeah. Behind him. Yeah, well behind.

Okay. Start Alshon Jeffrey. Sit Nelson Aguilar, right? Yes. How much do you like Dallas Goddard as of now with Ertz playing? With Ertz playing, he's not top 12 for me, especially with Alshon back. If Ertz is out, then he shoots right up into the top 10. Yeah, borderline starter, even with Alshon back,

just because I think Wentz could do whatever he wants. If Ertz is out, he'll be a top 7 tight end. If Ertz is in, would you go with Kyle Rudolph or Dallas Goddard? Rudolph. If Thielen's out. If Thielen's in, would you go with Kyle Rudolph or Dallas Goddard? Rudolph. If Thielen's in, I'll take Goddard. Okay. Ryan Fitzpatrick is not ranked, or he's 24th for Dave and not ranked for Dave and

Heath, that means, or if Jamie and Heath, that means outside the top 24. But let's give him a little bit of credit. He's actually been playing pretty well. Two of four good games in his last four. Two of four stinkers. Yeah. Actually, you go back to the last six. Three good games and three stinkers.

So, sit the Miami running backs. Start Devontae Parker. He's a must-start guy. Any interest in Micah Sickie? No. No. Alright. Eagles DST. Third for Jamie. Fourth for Dave. Eleventh for Heath. They've been great three of their last four games,

and the Dolphins give up the most points to the DSTs. I think that they're the DST to pick up and use the rest of the season. Yes. Like potential league-winning DST. I've been shouting that out for the last— For weeks. Yeah. Well, really since Monday, but yeah, I think the week before as well.

So I hope everybody they're like almost universally owned now so you're welcome uh happy thanksgiving to me uh you're thankful the chargers at the broncos no i'm sorry that was such a terrible joke it sounded so bad that was a joke it was awful uh okay chargers at the broncos. And this is kind of a tricky game here. Like, Phillip Lindsey's tricky. Keenan Allen does not have good history. You know what? You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to skip this game. I'm going to put it tomorrow so we can talk about it earlier in the show. So the last game we'll do today is Chiefs and Raiders. And is there anything tricky about this game here? Oh, my gosh. We didn't do Jets and Bengals yet? Nope, we haven't done that. All right, let's do Jets and Bengals

and then we'll do Chiefs and Raiders. Okay. So start Le'Veon. Sam Darnold is top five for you guys. Heath doesn't like him quite as much. Well, Heath does explain that on HQ. I don't know if he did it yesterday or not. But he has, in his projections, I think he said like six quarterbacks,

right around 22 points with Darnold in that group. So he said, when they showed the graphic of where he hasn't ranked on the show, that it's going to seem like he's lower on him. But he said if he tweaks it, you know, a decimal here or there, they'll go from 15 or 6. Where's he at in 15? Yeah. 15 to like 8.

Okay, okay. So he likes Darnold. He just likes a whole slew of other guys in between those other... We had a conversation of Foles versus Darnold. He likes Foles better, for example. You guys have Sam Darnold ahead of Aaron Rodgers, who we like this week,

ahead of Jameis Winston, ahead of Dak and Josh Allen, and Carson... Yeah, Darnold's of Aaron Rodgers, who we like this week, ahead of Jameis Winston, ahead of Dak and Josh Allen. Yeah, Darnold's the star of the week. All right, let's do it, Sam Darnold. He's been rolling, and they seem intent on really getting him going. I mean, sort of changing the thought of the franchise a little bit, the outside thoughts. Le'Veon Bell's a must-start guy, and so is Jameis and Crowder. Yeah, and certainly in PPR, starting him.

Demarius Thomas or Robbie Anderson, any interest there? You'd have to be a pretty desperate receiver to go with them. Anderson's better than Thomas just because he scored the last two, so at least you've seen some production out of him. But yeah, I agree with Dave. It's just more desperation. Ryan Griffin is top eight in non-PPR. He's top ten in PPR, so he's going to be there in that Jack Doyle, Kyle Rudolph range

If Thielen's out, you can start Ryan Griffin And Andy Dalton Any interest in Andy Dalton, guys? Yes I think it's actually going to be a fun game I like him in DFS because his price is really cheap But I wouldn't want to use him this week In seasonal leagues I buy into the Jets secondary playing better DFS because his price is really cheap. But I wouldn't want to use him this week in

seasonal leagues. I buy into the Jets secondary playing better. Unless there's A.J. Green alongside Andy Dalton, I'm not ready to run to him. I give the Jets secondary playing better in one game, which was last week. Because the week before that, they played Washington. And then the week before that,

Daniel Jones told them apart. Yeah. I don't know. The three weeks before that, they gave up 10 touchdowns to wide receivers in three games. And then they changed up their personnel and they've been playing better. But they also lost one of their corners for the year. He stunk. That's why they're

better. They got rid of Darryl Roberts. And even so, they gave up two touchdowns to Haskins. I mean, the secondary's not good. Joe Mixon. Starter set Joe Mixon. If it's Paul Adams, then it's a bunch of guys. Starter set Joe Mixon. Look, his last four games have been against the Rams, the Ravens, and the Raiders and Steelers.

Four good run defenses. And he has scored 13, 14, 15, and 7 fantasy points in non-PPR. 17, 16, 16, and 7 fantasy points in PPR. So three good games against tough defenses. This is the toughest one. Jets have the best run defense in football. It's so funny to hear that. I know. It's weird, but it's true.

He's a borderline starter. I think if you get away from him, you can. Like, I'd start McCoy over him. I'd start Ronald Jones over him. Jonathan Williams. How about Daryl Williams? I'm not there yet, but, I mean, you just look at the numbers for what those Chiefs guys

have done. Whenever Damian Williams has been out, you can make a case for him over Joe Mixon. But the one thing I keep going back to with Mixon is like he's I think the whole team is fired up that they get right. They get Dalton back. It's it's kind of fun to see how excited they are about his rushing average was better with Finley than it was with Dalton. Yeah, but the whole team was terrible then, too. Not that they've been better since. Yeah, again, maybe I look like a sucker after this, but I'm buying into this Jets run defense.

Oh, yeah, you should. 2.6 yards per carry and just two 10-point non-PPR performances to opposing running backs. And they just got done containing Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley over their last few games. Yeah, it's not an inspiring start for Joe Mixon.

Certainly, Tyler Boyd and Jamison Crowder would be better options than him, right? Sure, especially in PPR. What about Auden Tate or Alex Erickson or Robbie Anderson over Joe Mixon? No. Okay. Sit Tyler Eifert, Jets DST. Dave likes him a lot. Got him second.

Jamie ninth. Heath 20th. All right, our last game is Oakland at Kansas City. The Jets also, if they're still available, they get the Dolphins next week too. Yeah. So not just the Eagles with the recent stretch. Jets do. So Oakland at Kansas City, as far as the Chiefs go,

I think we've talked enough about their running backs. Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, you're starting. Sammy Watkins or Tyrell Williams? Who's a better option in this game? Watkins. Tyrell. I'm done. I don't like either one of them,

but I'm done trusting Sammy Watkins in my lineup. Yeah, Watkins and PPR has actually not been awful. I probably would take Tyrell and not PPR, but Watkins and P lineup. Yeah, Watkins in PPR has actually not been awful. I probably would take Tyrell in non-PPR, but Watkins in PPR. All right, we know it's difficult to succeed in Arrowhead, so is Tyrell Williams like a top 30 wide receiver or no? No, outside of it. Yeah, barely a top 30.

All right, so sit Carr, start Jacobs, and we talked a lot about Jacobs earlier. So if you missed that, please check the time codes and go to the start, sit, or flex it. No, go to the stats to know part. It's about 25 minutes in or something like that. And we talked a lot about Josh Jacobs in this matchup. Do you have any interest in Jalen Rashard?

He's had 43 or more receiving yards in three of his last four games. So if this is going to be a Raiders blowout loss, he will probably see a decent amount of playing time. And I can't put it past him having seven or eight PPR points. If you're desperate at running back in a PPR league, you could go with Richard. Darren Waller is top eight in non-PPR, top six in PPR. Yeah, with Renfro not playing,

I think that Waller gets his target share back. Yeah, he certainly stands to benefit. And the Chiefs defense, I think maybe you guys are a touch low on them. They're 15th and 16th for all of you. Yeah, you might be right. You don't have to. There's enough great ones this week. Packers,

Jets, Eagles, whatever, but you don't... I wouldn't be surprised. I think that's a good DFS play, the Chiefs DST. All right, guys. Have a great Thanksgiving. We're going to have another show on Friday. Looking forward to it. Miss you guys.

Thankful for you. You don't miss us. Nah, I don't. It felt like the right thing to say. You miss your football game with your family. I miss my family, and I miss my football game, and I miss warm weather. We play in that game.

We try and pulverize you every time you hit the ball. Well, for Acer, it'd be like when I play basketball with him. I just beat the crap out of him. Yeah, he would back me down. It didn't go well.

I play a little bully ball with Adam when we play basketball. Have a great Thanksgiving. Talk to you Friday. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Thanksgiving!