Fantasy Football Today - 12/01: Weekend Recap - Mostert, Parker, Barber and More (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 2, 2019

Who helped you get into the Fantasy playoffs? We go over the Best of Week 13 (4:00) including Ryan Fitzpatrick, Aaron Rodgers, DeVante Parker, Raheem Mostert, Peyton Barber, Tyler Higbee and Jack Doyl...e. Plus news and notes (14:30) and an early look at the Waiver Wire (18:15). Can you still get Benny Snell? Darwin Thompson? ... Winners (22:24) like Tyler Boyd and Losers (26:40) like Tevin Coleman and Jonathan Williams. Plus a look at the MegaDuds (32:25)! Sam Darnold, Aaron Jones, Emmanuel Sanders, D.J. Chark and more ... Recapping each game with a "Believe it or Not" from Heath (41:55) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Congratulations! You made the playoffs!
Starting point is 00:00:21 Everybody's happy! Way to go! All right! Or maybe you missed the playoffs, but thanks for playing, thanks for participating. Welcome to the show, our Week 13 recap. I'm Adam Azer. Hey Dave Richard, what's up? If you missed the playoffs, it's in the words of Tommy Tran, our intrepid host on CBS Sports HQ, DFS time! It is. Heath, it's always DFS time. Congratulations are in order for everyone on this podcast. We all made the playoffs in the podcast league, right?
Starting point is 00:00:52 I think so. I knew you were going to do that, Heath. No, we didn't. Heath knocked me out of the playoffs by five points tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, well. Oh, well. Congratulations, Heath.
Starting point is 00:01:03 How are you today? I'm doing okay. Okay. Why? What do you mean? You asked how I was. I gave you the most honest and succinct answer I could so we could move on to the things people actually listen to this podcast for.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Not as good of a week as last week, huh? It's not quite as fun as last week, no. My week was more fun than last week. Oh, congratulations. I think we're all talking about DFS and how we did on Facebook, which we'll tell you about in a little bit. Let's talk about week 13. I asked you to sum
Starting point is 00:01:39 up week 13 in 13 words. Heath, do you have 13 words to talk about Sunday? I think I have exactly 13, but with some of my calculations earlier today, I could be wrong. Devontae Parker, legit. Jets and Rojo, not.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Almost touchdown, suck. Not pass interference. Which one was not pass interference? What are you referring to? Okay. I really don't like it when analysts cover sports and constantly crap on the game that they cover and act like the game's terrible for all of these reasons.
Starting point is 00:02:13 So I don't want to be the person that does that. But the ending of that Chargers and Broncos game made me want to do that. The Broncos, legitimately, their play was, let's drop back, throw it out of bounds to the sideline, try to run into the back of the defender and see if the idiot ref will throw a flag so that we know that New York won't review it. Because it's cold out here and nobody wants to play overtime between two losing teams. And it just made me hate football and not want to watch anymore. It's a good thing that was the last game.
Starting point is 00:02:42 It made you not want to watch football anymore, Heath? That play made me not want to watch. I mean, I'm going to watch, obviously. I'm going to watch as soon as the podcast is over. I'll go watch some more. Of course. But that play made me hate the game of football as it is currently played. I think you need to write an open letter to Roger Goodell.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I think he just did. I think I just did. He listens to this podcast. Well, we don't know if he does anymore or not, but we do know that you've got a legitimate gripe. And I think it's worth spreading the word around. It was a really bad call. All right, Dave, 13 words to sum up week 13.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay, here we go. Losing teams beat contenders. Weather didn't matter much. Gase stinks. Running back heartbreak. Okay, here we go. Losing teams, beat contenders. Weather didn't matter much. Gase stinks. Running back heartbreak. Okay. And my, my 13 words to sum up week 13,
Starting point is 00:03:34 Patrick Mahomes, meh, bucks, backs, annoying, Devante Parker star. I'm mad at Sam Darnold. I think that was 14 words.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It was. Damn it. And a contraction. Yeah. You're terrible at this Darnold. I think that was 14 words. It was. Damn it. And a contraction. Yeah, you're terrible at this game and life. It's so true. One thing I certainly am not is the best. But let's talk about the best of Week 13. And it wasn't necessarily who we thought.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Aaron Rodgers was great. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz was such a DFS bargain, and he had a predictably awesome game and a good matchup. Darius Geist broke out. Raheem Mostert may be the lead running back now. He better be for San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Peyton Barber. So let's get to it. Dave, let's start with the quarterbacks. Do you know which quarterbacks were of Week 13? The best. It was Aaron Rodgers. He's number one. And Fitzpatrick, Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:04:29 It's not the complete list. But what do you think about those three in particular? Well, I think Aaron Rodgers just took advantage of a really good matchup and had himself a game. I thought this was going to be one where the running backs would do a lot more. Really, it just turned out the Packers were able to do whatever the heck they wanted to do, and it worked out great for them I don't know if we can count on Rodgers as to say that this is a breakout game for him and that you can start him confidently week in and week out for
Starting point is 00:04:54 him but uh yeah I mean you can feel a little bit better about Rodgers moving forward and it's good that he had one of these games just to kind of remind us that he's one of the best a round. He's got Washington at home next week. I'm thinking that he can put up some big numbers there. Bitter rivalry with the Bears in week 15. We'll see what the Bears secondary looks like by then. And then week 16 at Minnesota. No, they're terrible against quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Not terrible, but they're not great. I feel like that's going to be a massively impactful game, and Rodgers could just struggle in that one. I think the Vikings could rise up by then. All right, well, we'll see. We have time to deal with that. Now, Fitzpatrick and Carson Wentz. We do, that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Heath, they're obviously very different. Wentz is 96% owned. He was 62% started. He scored 30 points at Miami. Fitzpatrick in that game scored 32 fantasy points. Are they starts next week? They've got the Jets and the Giants. Fitzpatrick's at the Jets and Wentz has got the Giants
Starting point is 00:05:54 at home. Well, we just saw what Aaron Rodgers did to the Giants and he hadn't hardly scored that many fantasy points in his last three games combined. So yeah, I'll probably be starting Carson Wentz against the Giants. I don't plan on starting Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's a fun DFS play, a fun guy in two quarterback leagues.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Love the connection he has with Devontae Parker right now, but not somebody that'll be in my top 12. Did you just call him a mushroom? He's a fun guy. Yeah, yeah. So actually, just to sum up some of the top quarterbacks, two of those three plus Jared Goff, who scored 28
Starting point is 00:06:25 fantasy points. I sort of outlined this when we did the previews. When Carson Wentz has had good matchups, when Aaron Rodgers has had good matchups, when Jared Goff has had good matchups, they've done really well. And when they've had bad matchups, they've struggled. There's one exception. Carson Wentz struggled against Atlanta. In that game, he lost Alshon Jeffrey and Deshaun Jackson, so I don't really count it. But that's what these guys are. It's weird to say it. Aaron Rodgers seems to be a matchup guy right now. Carson Wentz, a matchup guy. Jared Goff, certainly a matchup guy. And they all took advantage of great situations this week. All right, the best running backs, again, not a complete list, but the ones that really stand out or worth talking about in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Heath, Darius Geis. I mean, did he really break out? Because he still had fewer carries than Adrian Peterson. Both of them had great games against arguably the worst run defense. You know, one of the worst run defenses right up there with the Jags. That would be the Carolina Panthers. So Geis, Raheem Mostert. 19 carries for him, 146 yards and a touchdown against the Ravens. And Peyton Barber got 17 carries for 44 yards and two touchdowns. And Ronald Jones was one of the biggest busts of the week.
Starting point is 00:07:29 What do you think? I don't know why you're laughing at the Peyton Barber thing. This is funny to no one. No one benefited from Peyton Barber scoring fantasy points. Lots of people lost because of Ronald Jones. And you're just giggling like it was the funniest thing that ever happened. I started Peyton Barber in one of my leagues. I started Peyton Barber in a big-time league where I needed a win.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I was desperate for flexes. Well, congratulations to you, Dave. You're the only person in America that benefited from Peyton Barber's big game. I will say I was completely wrong about Darius Geist, but also pretty much right. That's exactly how many touches I expected Geist to have. He had two monster runs against a Panthers
Starting point is 00:08:10 defense that looked absolutely awful. And they got kind of, I mean, they just basically got pushed around by Washington. The game was not as close as the scoreboard looked. And that was impressive from Geist. It's encouraging for next year because you hope that
Starting point is 00:08:25 next year he's in a position where he's getting 15 to 20 touches, can stay healthy all year. And if that's the case, he's a top 15 running back. Okay. Is Raheem Mostert the most important player to add on waivers? Now, unfortunately, at New Orleans next week, but he just faced a great run defense. We're going to get Matt Brita back next week. And so then it's going to be a three-headed monster. So I don't think he'll be most dirt, but he's someone you should definitely add. 17% up.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I'm not sure if there's going to be a three-headed monster in San Francisco. I wonder if Breida and Mostert kind of take it from here and they tell Tevin Coleman, you're good, you're fine, we might need you later, go take a seat. Tevin Coleman, clearly one of the big losers this week. I also forgot about Miles Sanders.
Starting point is 00:09:14 17 carries, 83 yards, 5 catches, 22 yards, and a touchdown at Miami. Gets the Giants and the Redskins next. And you know what? Let's just see what Jordan Howard's status is. But I think 66% started and the start percentages are going to look a little funky because a lot of teams are eliminated. A lot of teams have just given up. So you don't know how legit it is going forward, but we'll see how Miles Sanders looks if he's the guy going into that game against the Giants,
Starting point is 00:09:38 because he certainly had a lot more touches than JGI. Wide receivers that really stood out. Let's stick it to that Eagles and Dolphins game. And before I forget, by the way, Eagles DST probably my biggest disappointment of the week. Wow, are they horrible. It's Jalen Mills. Yikes, bad game. But Devontae Parker, 159 yards, two touchdowns on seven catches. Alshon Jeffrey, nine catches, 137 yards, and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:10:04 They were two of the best. Other wide receivers who stood out, Cortland Sutton caught two touchdowns. He only had four catches. He had 74 yards. Cortland Sutton was the only Bronco with more than 15 receiving yards, and this was his lowest target volume of the year, five targets, but he made them count.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And James Washington, four catches, 111 yards and a touchdown. Dave, I gave you four names, Parker, Alshon, Sutton, James Washington. How many of them are must starts? I think you've got to make that the case for Devante Parker. And he was pretty much there anyway. I checked before we came on the podcast today. He was started in 75% of leagues. He had been a must start in PPR for several weeks, and now he's there in non PPR too. And the matchup against the jets is going to be really good. And I think Corlin Sutton deserves it. I really do. And you know, just like David Blau with Kenny Galladay, drew lock new to just target him and he didn't do it a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I wish he had done it more. Maybe he will in the coming weeks, but Cortland Sutton pretty much, it feels like he's a reliable starter as at least a number two receiver in Washington. You got to hand it to him too. Stepped up and made plays with, uh, with duck Hodges. And I think you can buy into him as at least a high end flex. And he's out there in more than half of CBS sports leagues. Alshon Jeffrey's a one we have to watch an injury for. He limped off late in the game, but if he's healthy and ready to go next week against the giants, I think we're starting him too. leagues alshon jeffrey's the one we have to watch an injury for he limped off late in the game but if he's healthy and ready to go next week against the giants i think we're starting him too okay kind of interesting with the giants janoris jenkins their top cornerback has just complained
Starting point is 00:11:33 about not shadowing receivers last time he shadowed receiver mike evans had three touchdowns i believe like 180 yards or whatever that game was so he might get to shadow alshon jeffrey next week but yeah i mean jeffrey's been pretty good when he's been healthy and james washington hopefully or whatever that game was. So he might get to shadow Alshon Jeffrey next week. But yeah, I mean, Jeffrey's been pretty good when he's been healthy. And James Washington... Hopefully he's healthy. Yeah, he has 90... James Washington has 90 or more yards
Starting point is 00:11:52 in three of his last four games. Heath, let's take a look at some of the top tight ends. Really, two I wanted to highlight here. And they were Jack Doyle and Tyler Higbee, two of the best waiver wire pickups. Do both of them have staying power here, Jack Doyle and Tyler Higby, two of the best waiver wire pickups. Do both of them have staying power here, Jack Doyle and Tyler Higby? No, I think Doyle's pretty much a must start
Starting point is 00:12:13 for as long as they are without T.Y. Hilton and Ebron. I mean, Ebron's out for the year. He is a streamable type tight end for the rest of the year because Ebron's out, but if T.Y. Hilton's out next week at Tampa Bay, Jack Doyle's a top eight tight end once again. Higby, I'm a little bit less certain on. I don't know how much time Gerald Everett will miss.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And again, this was more of an Arizona matchup situation than it was something where you'll be able to rely on him on a week to week basis. Can you believe how bad they are against tight ends? It is hard to believe. A hundred yards and a touchdown. Ridiculous. Yeah. Well, but we like. 100 yards and a touchdown. Ridiculous. Yeah. Well, but we see this almost every year.
Starting point is 00:12:48 We saw it two years ago where the Giants, like 17 games in a row or something, gave up a touchdown to a tight end. Cleveland last year was awful against tight ends. It just happens. I bet this is worse. I bet they gave up more points. It's pretty stunning.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But I'll look. I'll look. We'll have some time. I'll take a look. How do they not try and solve it? Fix it? Get it right? I don't think they're trying that hard. They cut one of their starters
Starting point is 00:13:12 over the fact that he couldn't cover tight ends. Well, that worked. It didn't. Okay, going into today's game, the Cardinals giving up 13.55 fantasy points. I'm going to write that down. We'll see the last time a team was worse than that against tight ends. A few things to promote here on Fantasy Football today.
Starting point is 00:13:30 We have a Facebook giveaway winner. I'll tell you about that in a second. But you've got to watch CBS Sports HQ. I watched this morning. I watched it for weather updates. Weather, probably the most frustrating and annoying thing that fantasy analysts have to deal with. But you guys did a really good job on HQ. You gave out some gambling advice.
Starting point is 00:13:47 So make sure you're watching HQ and you can watch FFT on demand. Just download the HQ app on your connected device. Brent is our Facebook giveaway winner. We asked him who he's thankful for. We asked all of you who you're thankful for. And he said he's thankful for Hunter Henry coming to me after being discarded on the waiver wire. And I was a victim of the OJ Howard hype.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And I would say that Hunter Henry became one of the best waiver wire pickups of the season, even though I hope Brent that you had already locked up a playoff spot because Hunter Henry was terrible today. And OJ Howard was a lot better than him today. Yes, yes. That is certainly true in week 13. Not most of the other weeks. News and notes.
Starting point is 00:14:27 All right, Darrell Williams left with a leg injury. And then we saw Darwin Thompson get, I think, 12 carries on the basically final drive of the game. And he scored a touchdown. But three running backs scored a touchdown for the Chiefs. When Darrell Williams left with that injury, he had had six carries and one catch. McCoy had four carries
Starting point is 00:14:48 and three catches, so they basically split the workload. And now we'll see what happens going into the New England game next week. I think the real lesson there is Sean McCoy is not getting more than 13 or 14 touches in a game. No matter who he's paired with,
Starting point is 00:15:04 he's going to get to 10 11 12 13 and they're probably going to someone else we got lucky with mccoy this week because of the touchdown because he was going to be really ugly without it and he's right it's been that way all season long you just can't count on them for that big workload unless they get to that point in the season where they're just able to find an opponent they can just run like crazy against and they just load up on them because they figure that they're going to discard him after the season and nick foals was benched heath it's time are you do you want gardner minshu to come back for the sake of oh yeah you do okay okay well the funny thing is i think i have a lead i think
Starting point is 00:15:40 i believe i now have a lead but i Gardner Minshew is better than Daniel Jones, so if you can give me a coin flip for the rest of the way, I'd rather have Minshew. Well, he's certainly got a better schedule. They both have two good matchups left. Minshew is 10% owned. He's got the Chargers next week. That's typically a bad matchup, but then at Oakland and at Atlanta, typically good matchups. Greg Olson's in the concussion protocol.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He's at Atlanta next week. Maybe that makes Curtis Samuel more interesting. Samuel surprised me with a good game today. Adam Thielen's out for the Monday night game. BC Johnson is your best hope if you're desperate and you were going to start Thielen. He's 4% owned. In his last eight games, he has no more than 45 yards in any game,
Starting point is 00:16:21 but he does have two touchdowns. Caleb Balazs. What about, wait a minute. What about Malik Turner? Or what if Josh Gordon is out on the waiver wire somehow? You tell me. It's the best bet. What if JD McKissick is dual eligible in your league? Well, he plays
Starting point is 00:16:36 on Detroit, so I don't think he's going to end up making it for the game. Maybe he'll buy a ticket and he'll play and he'll get points for that. I might chance it with a Seahawks receiver before B.C. Johnson. Okay. Caleb Balazs left with a leg injury. Patrick Laird did his Caleb Balazs impression
Starting point is 00:16:52 and had five yards on ten carries, but he did score. And he had four catches for 43 yards. And Patrick Laird is at the Jets next week. New England players would support bringing Antonio Brown back, according to Jason LaConfora. So maybe still worth stashing Antonio Brown.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I don't think so. The players might, but I don't think the owner does. Carolina, well, we'll see if they play another stinker on Sunday. Who knows? Carolina defensive tackle, Gerald McCoy left in the first half. They are so bad at defensive tackle. Baker Mayfield hurt his hand, but he returned.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Travis Kelsey hurt his hip, but he returned. Daniel Jones has an ankle thing. Alshon Jeffrey limped off at the end of the game. Titans cornerback at Dory Jackson left with an injury. Colts wide receiver Chester Rogers left with an injury. That helped Zach Paschal have 100 yards. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't, but couldn't hurt. Denver guard Ronald Leary evaluated for a concussion.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And then a couple of almost touchdowns. Aaron Jones. So close to scoring twice, in fact. And for Baker Mayfield, he had Demetrius Harris drop a pass in the end zone. He would have had two touchdowns in this game. Well, there were a ton of... Andy Dalton had touchdowns dropped on back-to-back drives by tight ends. Set up for field goals on both drives.
Starting point is 00:18:06 He should have had a monster game. Yeah, that's a good point. All right, let's do an early look at the waiver wire with all those injuries. So we got Darwin Thompson that we could take a look at. Of course, Raheem Mostert. Dave, who's the top priority, you think? It might be Benny Snell, who's still out there in over 60% of leagues. And for the second week in a row,
Starting point is 00:18:26 look pretty good. We don't know if James Connor will play next week or not, but they're going to Arizona. It's a good matchup against the Cardinals. And if Snell is the lead guy, I think he'd have number two running back potential. Okay. So Snell and most are both out there.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You're picking up Snell. I think I'm picking up Snell as of now. Now, if we get reports that James Conner is going to feel good, I believe Conner might speak on Monday. I think he's got a radio show that he might say something on. If that's the case, then we would make a change. Let me look at the schedule for Mostert. I know next week is bad.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I don't think you'll feel good starting him against the Saints. Today bad yeah i don't know he's that's true it was a tough match up today and terrible weather and he did great uh he's got atlanta in week 4 15 rams in 16 seattle in 17 the only hesitation i have with most stard is is that brita could come back and push him into a supplemental role. They might go back to Tevin Coleman, even though I don't think they should. Don't know if I can make the case that he'd be the number one guy. And I'm kind of intrigued by Darwin Thompson, too. Yeah, because if Darrell Williams is out, Damian Williams doesn't come back.
Starting point is 00:19:40 We just talked about how the Sean McCoy doesn't seem like he's a lock to get a ton of touches. They're going to have him split with somebody. Could be Darwin Thompson. Yeah, I think there are other good options, Heath. Zach Paschal at Tampa Bay. Jack Doyle if he's available. Anthony Miller against Dallas, but also
Starting point is 00:19:57 James Washington. James Washington's at Arizona. Yeah, that's a great matchup. Anyone you want to add, Heath? Yeah, I think I'd prefer Miller, actually, to Washington. His targets over the last couple weeks and the way he's played. Washington had another very good game. I thought last week was a little bit fluky. This felt even a little bit flukier.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I'm not really that interested in Washington. What about Russell Gage? Is Julio coming back? San Francisco, though. I know. Well, I wonder if it's more about Hooper coming back than it would be about Julio coming back.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Yeah, it's something you have to consider, but there are going to be some good wide receiver options for sure. Miller's my favorite, too. So how did FanDuel treat you guys today? I'm looking at my lineups now. I put in 28 i got back 43 i made 15 bucks today let's go how about you guys uh my return on investment was 400 percent oh i had a good week all right dave he said he had such a good week last week he doesn't need to have a good week for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:21:06 But FanDuel was really fun. I was able to get Devante Parker in my lineups. So that was a bonanza. I was able to get Carson Wentz. He was my favorite quarterback on FanDuel. I thought he was a little bit underpriced. And even though Dave talked to me last night, I said, I don't want to play Jared Goff
Starting point is 00:21:21 because he's the fifth most expensive quarterback. And Dave said, but that means he might not be owned in that many leagues. I said, all right. So I put Jared Goff because he's the fifth most expensive quarterback. And Dave said, but that means he might not be owned to that many leagues. I said, all right. So I put Jared Goff in a lineup as well. So you have to think about ownership percentage. How owned is this guy going to be? If you play in a tournament and you want a lot of upside, you might want to go for a guy that, you know, not that many other players are going to have in their lineup. So I don't know what the ownership percentage was for a guy like Jared Goff, but I thought maybe he'd get priced out a bit.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And he still came through with a really strong game. I love FanDuel. I have a great time on FanDuel. I'm on a bit of a hot streak now. It's really fun, and it's not even about the money for me. It's just about having more fantasy games to watch, more fantasy players to care about, players that I don't have on my other teams.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I can have every week on FanDuel, and I can shoot for the moon and go for guys with big upside and try to get these big games and big payouts. You should sign up for FanDuel at fanduel.com slash FFT. Put in 20 bucks, get 20 bucks back in site credit, $5 per week for four weeks. Go to fanduel.com slash FFT and make a $20 deposit. Again, fanduel.com slash FFT or download the FanDuel app. Let's talk about winners and losers. Dave, your winners,
Starting point is 00:22:27 Robbie Anderson, who's 66% owned and Jack Doyle, who's 73% owned. So you think Robbie Anderson is the best wide receiver on the jets fantasy. I'm not sure if he's the best one on the jets, but I like the involvement the last three weeks. I think it makes sense that you've got to buy into it. And I love the matchup that he has in week 14 against the Miami Dolphins. It just sets up for a good bounce back opportunity for Darnold and company playing at home against
Starting point is 00:22:56 them. Hopefully the weather cooperates, but really in a game where Darnold was terrible, Robbie Anderson still found a way to garbage his way to over a hundred yards. And he's been giving you good numbers each of the last three weeks, three weeks ago, Robbie Anderson still found a way to garbage his way to over 100 yards. And he's been giving you good numbers each of the last three weeks. Three weeks ago, it wasn't that great. It was a touchdown and not much else. But involvement is good. And he seems to be taking work away from Jamison Crowder over the last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I just have no idea at all on a given week what's going to happen with the Jets receiving corps. You would think the Dolphins would be a fantastic spot for Robbie Anderson. You look the last time they played the Dolphins, when Darnold had an okay day, he caught two passes for 33 yards on four targets. Even last week when he had the big day, he only had five targets. This was a very encouraging sign that Robbie Anderson got 10 targets in a game, but I don't have any confidence in what's going to happen next week with this passing offense. As far as Jack Doyle goes, he's 73% owned.
Starting point is 00:23:52 He was started in 48% of leagues. He was a great value on FanDuel for sure. He ends up with six catches, 73 yards, and a touchdown on 11 targets against the Titans, who struggle against tight ends, but not as much as the Bucs struggle against tight ends. And that's Jack Doyle's opponent next week. And he's got four touchdowns in five games without T.Y. Hilton. If T.Y. Hilton comes back, would you still trust Jack Doyle now that Ebron's out?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Or does it need to be both Ebron and Hilton out for you to feel good about Doyle? I feel better if Hilton didn't play, but even if Hilton plays, I think Doyle is going to be too big of a part of the offense that they can't get away from him. Yeah, he looks pretty good. I mean, that's a guy you need to add if he's available.
Starting point is 00:24:32 All right, Heath, your winners are Tyler Boyd and Peyton Barber. So go ahead with Boyd first. He was only starting 46% of leagues, five catches, 59 yards, and a touchdown on 10 targets. He got his quarterback back. And it was funny because the Bengals went right back to the type of offense they were running at the beginning of the year. They played with the lead this entire game and were not really threatened by the Jets for most of it.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And they still threw 37 passes. Ten of them went Tyler Boyd's way. He was averaging 10 targets per game in Andy Dalton's starts earlier this year. So I'm just going to plug him right back in as a must-start number two wide receiver. I even expect better production than this, five for 59 moving forward. Hopefully he scores a little bit more regularly. Peyton Barber, it's just disgusting that Tampa Bay keeps doing this. I don't think he's their most talented running back, but he's back in play as they flex until they give Ronald Jones 20 touches again. Well, we got an explanation
Starting point is 00:25:27 after the game from Bruce Arians who said that Ronald Jones missed a blitz pickup and got benched for it. Oh, well, that makes perfect sense then. You should definitely play the guy that's less talented because the other guy made one mistake. Peyton Barber never makes any mistakes. No, none. None whatsoever. How could you say he's back in play as a flex?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Who the heck's going to want to start Peyton Barber? I'm probably going to still be desperate for my flex spot, so I'm probably going to start Peyton Barber. I don't love it. I feel kind of ashamed. Yeah, I don't know. He had 23 carries in week two.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And this is obviously the most since then. He's been kind of junk. He does score a lot. How many touchdowns does he have now? He's got... Like seven? I think eight rushing touchdowns. That's a flex, Adam.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Six rushing touchdowns, sorry. Six rushing touchdowns, and one receiving. He has one receiving, so he has seven, just like I said. Good luck. You know what? I hope we play each other. I don't think we will, but I hope we do, and I hope you start Peyton Barber.
Starting point is 00:26:22 No, I'm going to be in the playoffs. You know, you got lucky that Damian Williams got hurt because he would have scored a second touchdown, and I would have beaten you. And that has been— Damian Williams? He didn't even play today. Daryl Williams. You're lucky he got hurt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And then I would have beaten you. Something like that. Sure. Why not? All right, so we'll get to the losers in a second. I'll get to them right now. Heath, your losers are Hunter Henry and Brandon Cooks. So is there something to be concerned about here with Hunter Henry? Or was this just a bad game? Well, I started off with it being the Chargers pass catchers.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'm still not sure just because Phillip Rivers warmed up for a quarter and a half that he's not washed. They called plays as if they think... Hold on, hold on, hold on. What is this washed thing? It's washed up. When did we drop up? It's washed... No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Just because you and the weirdos on Twitter are trying to start something... Adam, Adam, you're turning into an old man before our very eyes. You can talk to us about how much time we have left on the podcast. I've tried to cut out words that are not needed, but now you've added another three minutes discussing it,
Starting point is 00:27:27 so it kind of ruined the purpose. Phillip Rivers, again, did not look very good for most of this game throwing the football. They're running it way too much. They did take some shots later in the game when they were chasing the score, but I just don't feel very confident in this offense right now.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And I thought Hunter Henry was going to be like a guaranteed top five tight end this week and moving forward and now I'm just kind of wishy-washy on him again all right he had two catches for 10 yards on three targets at Denver your other loser is Brandon Cooks he's 84 percent owned two targets 24 yards at Arizona where Cooper Cup had a big game Robert Woods had what 17 or 19 targets? Something crazy. Can we drop Brandon Cooks? Yeah, I think you can.
Starting point is 00:28:13 He's got one game with more than four targets since week four. Yikes. Okay, bye-bye. Dave, you're losers. Oh, this is a good one. We haven't talked about this one yet. Jonathan Williams, 86% owned 59% started
Starting point is 00:28:28 Three-headed monster, he had only Eight carries, Wilkins and Hines Were both involved, Hines scored the touchdown I got really mad because I started Jonathan Williams A lot of people did Adam, this is one We don't have an explanation for, and maybe
Starting point is 00:28:44 Frank Reich talked about it after the game but it's another perplexing decision by this colts coaching staff last week against houston they ran the ball like crazy they didn't throw much they were playing houston they're terrible against the pass as you'll see tom brady take advantage of in the game this week and then this week they're using three different running backs instead of the guy that gave them at least a hundred yards each of the previous two games. So I don't know what happened. I don't know if Jonathan Williams like played a prank on Frank Reich and took his car from the parking spot and like drove it across the street to the grocery store and then left it there. And then Frank Reich is leaving the building
Starting point is 00:29:22 at 11 o'clock at night saying, where's my car? And somebody points him over there. And then he gets benched for that. I don't know what's going on. But Jonathan Williams definitely disappointed people. And now I don't know if you can trust any Colts running back moving forward. Fair enough. Would you drop Jonathan Williams? Because we might get more of the Mac
Starting point is 00:29:39 back next week. I think if Mac's back, we can trust him. I think he's on the chopping block. I'm not certain if I'm ready to say cut him, get him off your team. It's over. Okay. Unfortunately, they have two of the better run defenses coming up at Tampa Bay and at New Orleans in their next two games. Oh, good. That means they're going to run
Starting point is 00:29:56 the ball 50 times in each game. And Tevin Coleman. So yeah, what do you do with Tevin Coleman at this point? Five carries for six yards, one catch for nine yards, and now what? It's 49 carries over his last five games and more than
Starting point is 00:30:11 five yards in how many? Six of them or something? Yeah, you can't start him. You can't cut him. You just sit him on your bench. Yeah, remember the stat we had his previous four games? He had more than five yards. Previous four games, he had seven runs of five or more yards. And I don't think he had any today. Five games.
Starting point is 00:30:28 No, he didn't. So I think he could potentially be on the chopping block too. In 10 team leagues, I think you get rid of Tevin Coleman, no problem. But in 12 and 14 team leagues, you might have a harder time saying goodbye. Really just depends on the makeup of your roster and how badly you need one of the players
Starting point is 00:30:43 that are going to be on waivers this week, specifically one of the running backs. Like dropping him off for Benny Snell, if we know for sure there's no James Conner, I think you make that move. All right. Heath, when's the next time you think you're going to an event? You're going to need tickets. What do you think? Concert? Sports?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Something? Soon. Soon? What do you think it's going to be? Are you going to go to a concert? Christmas present or something? I think I know what it is. Oh, you're going somewhere? I think I know what it is. Soon. Oh, what do you think it's going to be like? You're going to go to a concert, Christmas present. I think I know what it is. Oh,
Starting point is 00:31:06 you're going somewhere. I think January. Oh, would you want to tell us what it is? No, I'll tell you what it is. What is it? It's Celtics at heat.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Ah, all right, cool. That'll be fun. Well, I hope you'd use SeatGeek to get there. I know you can't get the discount, but you,
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Starting point is 00:32:23 All right, the mega duds. Let's go through this list here. Some of the real stingers. Do we have to? Do we have to? Yeah, we do, Dave. You're the worst. All right, Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So, I don't know. I mean, was it really that bad? He didn't score. Yeah, I guess it was that bad. He scored nine points, 239 yards. Oh, my God. Go ahead, Heath. I had a relevant Twitter poll today.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Will Sam Darnold throw for as many career yards as Andy Dalton? Yeah, I would say yes. Well, without knowing exactly how many yards Dalton has had, you're going to say yes to that, Adam? I think he'll throw... Maybe not. Dalton became the all-time leader in Bengals history today in passing. For touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:33:11 For touchdowns, right? Yes. I think you're both underestimating the number of yards Andy Dalton has thrown. Oh, I'm not. I know that it's a huge number. And overestimating the likelihood of Sam Darnold having a good career. I agree. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You know what? You're probably right. The first reaction was yes. It's probably a no. But I think you're probably being a good career. I agree. All right. You know what? You're probably right. The first reaction was yes. It's probably a no. But I think you're probably being a little bit harsh on him. Look, there was bad weather, and it might have affected him. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Go ahead, then. Sam Darnold, mega dud. He looked like he was Drew Locke and playing in his first NFL game. He didn't understand the concept of you could get sacked and you know turn the ball over that's something that could happen in a football game he was lost out there and he looked okay early on but his offensive line really did let him down and they were doing a better job protecting him in the previous couple of games in this game they couldn't the play calling was terrible adam gaze and his googly eyes were atrocious in this one.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And honestly, we talked about Robbie Anderson and how he had a 100 yard game, man. It might be like the luckiest thing that ever happened to Robbie Anderson. I think Darnold just looked completely terrible in this game. I think he was let down by his offensive line. His defense didn't do any better. Jamal Adams got hurt. That was part of the problem. It's a mess. And I wonder if it means that people are going to have a hard time trusting him against the dolphins. I think it's easier to trust his receivers. I think it's easier to trust his receivers than it is him because there are so many other quarterbacks that you can go to. And when you see the list of quarterbacks that are available in week 14, you might feel better
Starting point is 00:34:43 about guys like Ryan Fitzpatrick than you will about Sam Darnold in that same game. How you treat Sam Darnold this week will probably be the same way you've treated him the last three weeks. If you're someone who has been skeptical of Sam Darnold since the beginning of the year, you're probably not going to start him again. If you're someone who thought he was good and just had bad matchups early in the year, you're going to trust him and roll him right back out there again.
Starting point is 00:35:06 No, but if you were skeptical about Sam Darnold three weeks ago, going into this game, you weren't. Oh, I was, for sure. I had ranked 21st. You were, but the majority of the people were not. Why did you feel that way, Heath? Because he was on the road in a game without great weather against a highly motivated Bengals team, and I'm just not sure that he's any good.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And I saw a quarterback who was playing really well the past couple of weeks and making some great throws even when there was pressure on him. And today there was pressure on him, and he fell to the ground and collapsed and cried like a baby. Yeah, but you know what? I think we should stop writing his career after every game you know like let's let the guy grow and develop week 14 i'm nervous i'm nervous about it's totally fair but if you write his career based on his career we're we just don't know anything you're
Starting point is 00:35:57 right we don't know anything but i'm not gonna say nobody said he's garbage but you know sometimes it's just so much overreaction he He stinks. Oh, now he's great. Now he stinks. Let's see where it goes. I understand being hesitant. He was garbage today. He was really bad today. Okay, so moving on.
Starting point is 00:36:12 We'll see what he does next week. Kyler Murray scored 12 fantasy points. He did have a rushing touchdown, but it wasn't pretty for him. The Rams defense was too much. Start or sit next week against Pittsburgh. Kyler Murray. Sit. I think I'm going to week against Pittsburgh. Kyler Murray. Sit. I think I'm going to say sit him. Dave's side. Because I just
Starting point is 00:36:29 hate that he just looks so bad. He didn't look good either. Really rough game for him. Okay. And the Steelers defense has been playing consistently well. There might have been a game here or there where that defense didn't look good, but for the most part, they've looked good.
Starting point is 00:36:50 That's the Dave's side. Aaron Jones, mega dud, Aaron Jones, 11 carries, 18 yards. He had a touchdown callback. He got stopped at the one, I think twice. He had four catches for 13 yards, but now this is two garbage games in a row. I think only two games all year with more than 13 carries. Heath, where are you on Aaron Jones? I'm probably going to start him against Washington, but I'm like I can see myself in the future struggling with matchups against the Bears and the Vikings. I'm not
Starting point is 00:37:16 certain I'm going to feel great about either of those games, so I would not necessarily say he's just a don't worry about it. We're going to start him the rest of the season kind of guy. I'm going to check out his playing time. Come back to me on Aaron Jones in a minute. Okay, so let's talk about the wide receivers then. Terry McLaurin had two catches for eight yards.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Odell Beckham had three catches for 29 yards. Christian Kirk was a mega dud. DJ Chark had two catches for 47 yards on five targets, and it was DeeDee Westbrook who had the better game. Emmanuel Sanders had 41 yards in this game. He really hasn't been that good. He's only had one game with more than 41 yards with San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:37:51 He's been hurt, though. So, yeah, you know, it's McLaurin, it's Beckham, it's Kirk, DJ Chark, and Emmanuel Sanders. Any names that really jump out among the mega-dud receivers? I wonder if we're going backward with Odell again, and maybe we just, we bit too hard on, on Odell's play as he went off against Miami and thought,
Starting point is 00:38:14 Oh, he'll be okay. It'll be a good number two receiver. And you forget about what he really was before that Miami game, which is, I guess, kind of a number two receiver in PPR, but not non PPR.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And you've got the Bengals and the Cardinals the next two weeks. I know, I know. Yes, come on. You're starting him. Look, I outlined it last week. I'm probably going to start him, but it's going to be as a number two receiver, not as a number one. I outlined it last week, though. Whenever he has had a matchup against a team that was 20th or worse
Starting point is 00:38:39 against wide receivers, the worst he's done was 71 yards. It was week one against Tennessee. So he's been good. He scored in three of the four games. He had a really, really tough schedule, which shouldn't be affecting Beckham this much. I'll give you that. But in good matchups, Beckham has been really good.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Part of the problem is that it's affecting Baker Mayfield and the offensive line. There was another issue with the Browns' offensive line today. They were without their starting left tackle, and that definitely made a difference there all right anyone else heath mclaurin kirk charke sanders it was disappointing for dj charke um i think debo samuel is the number one wide receiver on the 49ers now yes and i just don't have any confidence in anyone in the was offense. I can't wait
Starting point is 00:39:25 to draft Debo Samuel in fantasy next year. Can't wait. I said the same thing about Dante Pettis a year ago. I know, I know, but there's, there's things about Debo that are just there. He's just a sharp player. He's versatile. I think he can be a high volume catch guy. I mean, there,'s just a sharp player he's versatile i think he can be a high volume catch guy i mean there there's a lot to like about him quick point i wanted to go back to on aaron jones just to see if we can get something to figure out about why he had the game that he had and i guess he was close to having the touchdown like you said but still not a lot of breakaway yards he played 58 of the snaps it's the most for him in his last three games. And I wonder if... I can't imagine that there's enough on film where the coaches are going to
Starting point is 00:40:10 say, yeah, maybe we need to turn to Jamal Williams a little bit more. But it is something that you have to monitor with the Packers is that they're certainly going to use them both, maybe close to 50-50 moving forward. Okay. Yeah. I'm not sure that the Giants, by the way, don't have a good run defense now. It's three games in a row they've been pretty good against the run, and it coincides with four games ago they got Leonard Williams. So that actually might be a strength of theirs. And by the way, I am now at 2013.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I've gone back at least five years. Oh, 2013, the Cardinals, 13.25 fantasy points allowed to tight ends. That is almost as much as they have allowed this year. This is really pathetic. 13.55 fantasy points allowed before this week. So they're going to be the most in years going into Week 14. George Kittle was a mega dud. Any concerns there?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Two catches, 17 yards on four targets at Baltimore. I think you chalk it up to the weather. I think the weather was most impactful in this game, the Niners and the Ravens. Well, it was like there were a couple, like the quarterbacks in Tampa Bay were much, much worse than we expected. One of them got benched. The quarterbacks in Kansas City were absolutely terrible.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yes. Really, Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, the quarterbacks in Cincinnati even though Andy Dalton played well he didn't have a good fit like Aaron Rodgers was the only good quarterback I think that was good in one of the games we were concerned about the weather yeah because Mahomes his
Starting point is 00:41:36 throws really were affected I mean Roma was talking about it a lot the wind was taking the ball at the last minute and you know Travis Kelsey probably would have had a long touchdown but the ball kind of moved so the weather was bad there all at the last minute. And Travis Kelsey probably would have had a long touchdown, but the ball kind of moved. So the weather was bad there. All right, ready for the game, Seath? I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:41:51 All right, I got a surprise for you. Okay, I got this for you. That's fun, right? That's really good. Yeah. Okay, Heath, what do we got? Why did you just clip that little bit? Why not do the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:42:04 Because the top, what is it? The segment is called. So what's our first Believe It or Not? It's the Rams 34 and the Cardinals 7. You can trust the Rams again in the fantasy playoffs. Seattle next week at home. I think they can be okay there because Seattle will be on a short week and then on the road. At Dallas,
Starting point is 00:42:27 I don't know what to make of the Cowboys defense. Dave, I play that when I need an answer. I'm getting to my point. Why can't I build up to it? Oh, fine. It's so much less dramatic. I don't believe it, by the way. I believe it for next week, and then I'm
Starting point is 00:42:43 going to table it from there. Yeah, I don't really believe it either, Adam. I'm going to table it from there. Yeah, I don't really believe it either, Adam. I'm going to be cautious with all of them. I'm certain that I'll start Cooper Cup, and Robert Woods will probably be a borderline number two. Goff's going to be, I would presume, not a start, but okay, and I'd be uncomfortable with Gurley. Woods is the one who should be your number two, and Cup should be the one that should be your borderline low-end
Starting point is 00:43:09 or high-end flex. And if you're going to rank them that high, then maybe you said it right about Goff. Maybe you consider him, but not make him a must-start type of quarterback. Woods and Mike Williams both go over 100 yards today. Woods had 19 targets. Neither of them scored, so that is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:43:26 They're still getting the yards. They're not scoring. Woods has had 80 or more receiving yards in four of his last five games. And let's do one more, believe it or not. Let's go over to the Cardinals here. How about David Johnson is droppable. He is 88% owned. He had six touches for 24 yards in this game.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Kenyon Drake had 15 touches for only 51 yards. But David Johnson is droppable, believe it or not. Believe it. He plays Pittsburgh next week, then Cleveland. It doesn't matter who he plays. He doesn't play. His team plays Pittsburgh. In the limited touches that he had,
Starting point is 00:44:01 he did not look like a terrible, slow running back. Believe it or not, Dave, he's droppable. I think it's believable because of the matchups that he has. You're definitely not going to use him next week against Pittsburgh. I'd be surprised. You can't use him when he's getting four or five touches a game. Right. But I wonder if what we.
Starting point is 00:44:17 It doesn't matter who he's playing against. Keith, I wonder if they saw something in the limited snaps that he had today that could make him a bigger part of the offense next week. And then maybe after that, when they play Cleveland, maybe he's back to a 50-50 role with somebody else. Raheem Mostert is on waivers. Chase Edmonds is the one you can drop. Raheem Mostert is on waivers. The only player you can drop is David Johnson.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Do you do it? You can go ahead. Go ahead. Kansas City 40, Oakland 9. Believe it or not, Heath. You're not going to be able to trust any Chiefs running backs. I don't believe it. I've had some good ones so far.
Starting point is 00:44:59 You're really making you guys think about it. I like it. That's a good one. They score. They score a lot. I can't trust them next week against the Patriots. So I believe it. You can't trust them.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I think you can trust them. I mean, well, I think you can trust them. I don't know. I think you can trust Sean McCoy. Start one, you get points for both. If Damian Williams comes back, then I don't know. You know what? I'm leaning towards a not now.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I'm leaning towards not. Well, welcome to the right side of this. It a not it's a dot okay uh let's see uh believe a few more believe it or not sammy walkins is droppable believe it i'll believe it believe it or not should have believed it after week one. Believe it or not. Timmy Watkins, three touchdowns. Terry kills hurt. Drop him. Don't use him. Yeah, don't use him. Would have saved everybody a lot of heartache. Tyrell Williams is
Starting point is 00:45:54 a flex at best. How about Tyrell Williams is droppable? I don't know that I'm going to do that. Probably not. Would you start him against Tennessee? I might.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Possibly. Better weather. Would you start him against Jacksonville? Would you start him against Jacksonville? Better weather. Those are home games. Yeah. Car should play better.
Starting point is 00:46:19 All right, cool. Okay. Next game. Ready? Denver 23, Chargers 20. Believe it or not, Cortland Sutton's going to be just fine with Drew Locke. Yep, I believe it.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I do not. I think I believe it. He's really good. He's really good. He's making unbelievable plays. He's really good. He's really good. He's making unbelievable plays. He had five targets. Right, but they were winning. They never win. They only threw 28 times.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, like what if they still had over 20% of the target? But look at their schedule. At Houston, at Kansas City, they're going to probably have to throw more in those games, don't you think? I think so. Yeah, I'll be interested if Drew Locke's put in those situations, if he performs any better, because
Starting point is 00:47:10 he averaged like five yards per attempt in this game. He was great to start. It was almost like David Blau all over again. He was great to start the game, and then he really got ugly into the second half. His interception was bad. What do you think about Mike Williams, guys?
Starting point is 00:47:27 Five catches, 117 yards. So now looking at his yardage in his last eight games, it's 74, 72, 47, 69, 11, 55, 76, and 117. He still has not scored a touchdown this year, but he is typically getting more than 70 or 70 or more yards 70 ish yards well let's say it's just like we said at the beginning of the year i mean if mike williams could ever score touchdowns he might be good in fantasy right right yeah no it's weird he's a deep ball guy now whereas last year he was a red guy and you knew the ball was going to go to
Starting point is 00:48:00 him there was a fourth and fourth and 11 play that would have ended the game if the Chargers didn't convert it. You knew that Rivers was going to chuck it deep to him. He fell down on the route, got back up, and basically made a one-armed catch to keep the game alive for the Chargers. Well, he's 69% owned. So what do you think?
Starting point is 00:48:19 Did you think that was the catch of the day, or did you like Duke Johnson's touchdown catch against the Patriots? I forgot. you think that was the catch of the day or did you like duke johnson that was one of the oh man what a jerk i i thought that was one of the best touchdown catches of the year or the one of the best catches of the year corlin sutton's touchdown in that game was one of the best catches of the year too whether or not that one i i don't think you guys have told me how you feel about mike williams for goodness sake and i don't feel i don't think you guys have told me how you feel about Mike Williams for goodness sake. I don't feel great about him. I think he's a bench receiver in PPR.
Starting point is 00:48:49 How do you feel about Philip Lindsay? I mean, he is getting the work. He's not doing anything with it. They should give it to Royce Freeman more. No, they shouldn't. He Philip Lindsay was a lot better when they were only giving him the
Starting point is 00:49:01 ball 15 times a game. He scored six or fewer non-PPR fantasy points in five of his last six games. That's bad. You can't trust him against Houston. No, you can't. I'm sure you'll tell me how the Patriots running back should do it against Houston.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Baltimore 20, San Francisco 17 as we get to the early games. Believe it or not, in this game. Yeah, believe it or not, Raheem Mostert is the best 49ers running back rest of season. Believe it or not, Raheem Mostert is the best 49ers running back rest of season. Believe it. I'm not ready to believe it because I, yeah. I believe it. They're going to change it over two more times before the season ends.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Why on earth would they do that? Tevin Coleman has been bad five games in a row. Matt Breida, if you look at it, he hasn't been that good for much of the last month or two. Raheem Mostert is, I'm guessing in his career, averaging more than six yards per carry. He's earned it. Just give it to him. Well, I think they'll give it to him this week. That's not what they do.
Starting point is 00:49:54 That's not what they typically do, but maybe they made a change this time. And Matt Breida averaged five yards per carry in his, not his most recent game, but the game before that. Yeah, okay, but he's had, like four of his last five, he's had 35 or fewer rushing yards, 36 or fewer rushing yards, something like that. Well, he's gotten hurt in seven of those games.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Look, you didn't ask if he's going to be a must start. You asked if he's going, if Mostert is going to be the best, and I think he will be. Okay, I think he won't be. Who do you think will be then? I would bet on matt brita no no actually i don't have to say who i just think one of them will be better than him i think next week is going to be rough on all of them and then the the split will continue when they play against atlanta in week 15 maybe moser it's the best guy for that game against the Falcons, but who knows?
Starting point is 00:50:47 And the 49ers don't care about our fantasy teams. They're going to roll out the two best running backs. They can, when one gets a hot hand, they're going to keep giving them the ball like they did with most shirt against the Ravens. Marquise Brown, 86% on only 30% started bad weather,
Starting point is 00:51:01 bad matchup, two targets and one catch for one yard. Coming off a really good performance with two touchdowns, but only 42 yards. He barely ever gets to 50 yards now. Where are you on Marquise Brown? Bench receiver. Boomer bust flex. Okay. Tampa Bay 28,
Starting point is 00:51:17 Jacksonville 21. Heath? Believe it or not, Gardner Minshew and DeeDee Westbrook are going to be fantasy league winners well on the surface that sounds like a ridiculous statement but then you look at their schedule oh but he's gonna point to the schedule and say that they've got a chance I'll believe it for Westbrook and PPR leagues. Minshew at Oakland and at Atlanta in week 15 and 16. Next week's a bad matchup, though. But yeah, 15 and 16 are a good
Starting point is 00:51:54 matchup. Home against the Chargers might not be terrible for them. Because they're traveling? Chargers going cross-country, second road game in a row after their season was just ended against the Broncos on the worst pass interference call in the history of football? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Locke had two touchdowns. Their season was over long before that. Who are we kidding? Yeah, it's true. Look, I mean, there's certainly a case to be made. I just think my issue is like, is it going to be Westbrook week to week? Is it going to be Chark?
Starting point is 00:52:21 You know, it's sort of like the Niners running backs. We know it's going to be Minshew. We don't know who it's going to be with. We don't know it's going to be Chark, it's sort of like the Niners running backs. We know it's going to be Minshew. We don't know who it's going to be with. We don't know it's going to be Minshew. We don't know for sure, but it should be. The Jaguars have to turn the page and see what they've got in him. Heath, are you seeing his picture
Starting point is 00:52:37 on our video show? Not only does he have a mustache, he's got chest hair coming all the way up. He is very Heath Covey. It's crawling up his neck. Look at that thing. Yeah, it's trying to get to his mustache. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today.
Starting point is 00:52:51 He does look nice. You're right. Believe it or not, I don't know what to say about the Bucs wide receivers. Believe it or not, they are not must-starts, Godwin and Evans. What? Look, I don't believe it,
Starting point is 00:53:12 but Evans has had four disappointing games in a row. Adam, these are supposed to be things where someone might argue either side. What am I supposed to say about these guys? They've been really letting you down. Start them, and they're going to be good sometimes and bad sometimes, but you have to always start them because the upside is too high to sit them. Yeah, I mean, I agree.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I'm going to start them, but I just need to acknowledge. Mike Evans has had four disappointing games in a row. For Godwin, I think it might be four out of five. I know he had a two-touchdown game in there. I would say it's three out of five, perhaps four out of five. Three catches, 47 yards, and a touchdown. Depends how you view that. So disappointing.
Starting point is 00:53:48 All right, next up, Tennessee 31 and Indianapolis 17. Heath. Derrick Henry is the only Titan you can start in the fantasy playoffs. Fantasy playoffs are at Oakland, home against Houston, and home against New Orleans. Dave, Derrick Henry is the only Titan you can trust. Don't believe it. I still think you can go back to Ryan Tannehill,
Starting point is 00:54:10 who didn't get you the 22 fantasy points that you've been coming to expect from him, but he still had two touchdowns, and he had a mostly good game, and the matchups for the next two weeks are favorable for him. So I would like to see what happens in the Patriots-Texans game, but I've made the case that the Texans are not necessarily a good matchup now that they're healthy. But what's really concerning is Ryan Tannehill has thrown 19, 18,
Starting point is 00:54:33 and 22 passes in his last three games. So I'll probably start him next week, Keith. I mostly believe it. I don't know that I'm going to be starting Tannehill in weeks 15 and 16. I mostly believe it too. For the Colts, believe it or not, Zach Paschal is worth adding. I hated how he played in the three weeks before this game.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Absolutely hated it. He did not look good at all. He was making mistakes. His catch rate was super low. And then he comes out today and has 10 targets. They had no one else to throw to at receiver, really. And he had 109 yards and seven catches. I'm worried about his consistency from week to week.
Starting point is 00:55:20 What do you think? Is it worth adding? If they got Tampa Bay next week, don't forget one of those bad games for him was with Brian Hoyer. I think he is worth considering adding off waivers.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Okay. Alright. Washington 29, Carolina 21. Kyle Allen is a good week 14 streamer. And I think maybe we did a bad job not mentioning that he scored 27 fantasy points until now. I know. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And he scored 28 last week, didn't he? So I think that's true. 28 at New Orleans last week and 27 this week. Absolutely awful for a good chunk of this game. Yeah. He's at Atlanta and he's scoring fantasy points and they can't stop anybody scoring points against him. Remember when we said that about Kyle Allen
Starting point is 00:56:09 three weeks ago and he scored like zero points or whatever it was? It's true. So you don't believe it? I don't believe it. I don't trust him. Dave? I think he's in the streaming conversation but I don't think he'll end up being my favorite streamer.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Okay. Kyle Allen. Yeah, it is weird. Two big games in a row. He's been pretty hot and cold. Christian McCaffrey, the one week I decided to start him in FanDuel, was his second worst game of the season. Believe it or not, Curtis Samuel should be started.
Starting point is 00:56:44 All right, so next week they have Atlanta. Believe it or not, Curtis Samuel is better than Emmanuel Sanders rest of the season. Believe it. I think I believe it. He's been better than Emmanuel Sanders so far this season, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:02 For the most part. I mean, I just wonder if Emmanuel Sanders isn't going to be himself because of the injury that he has. All right. Samuel is very up and down. A few more games here. Miami 37 and Philadelphia 31. Heath.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Devontae Parker is a legitimate top 12 wide receiver. Believe it, baby. Oh, yeah, I believe it. Double digit targets in every game without Preston Williams, and this was not a situation like Philadelphia's pass defense might actually not. We thought they were getting better, and then this game happened. Most of the plays that Devontae Parker made, he was just leaping over a cornerback to make the plays. It's not like he was wide open.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Devontae Parker, believe it or not, Devontae Parker is a top 40 pick next year in drafts. Top 48. What team is he going to be on? Dolphins. Who's his quarterback going to be?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Gosh, dude, I don't know. Just answer. That's why I can't believe that. I can't believe that he's a round four pitcher. If he was in this exact situation, my answer would be believe it. Fitzpatrick to Parker. All right. That's what the Dolphins do after their tank year is keep Ryan Fitzpatrick around? No, it'll be—
Starting point is 00:58:21 Just believe it or not, Dave. I said I don't believe it. Oh, Dave. I said I don't believe it. Oh, man. Let's see. Let's do one for the Eagles. Believe it or not, Dallas Goddard is a must-start tight end. Man. Six for 66 in this game.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I don't quite believe it. I don't either. I wonder how much of it had to... Ertz should have had a big game. You want to quite believe it. I don't either. I wonder how much of it had to... Ertz should have had a big game. You want to talk about an almost touchdown? He almost had one of those. Had a big catch fall off his hands earlier in the game, too. I think he's
Starting point is 00:58:55 like a short area outlet for Wentz, and that's about it. Any game where Carson Wentz is expected to throw a lot, you can consider Goddard as a 10-point PPR type of tight end. Who would you rather have rest of season? Let's say they were both on waivers. Mike Gasicki, who gets the Jets next week,
Starting point is 00:59:12 then the Giants, then the Bengals. And he had a nice game. He's had three good games in his last five, Mike Gasicki. Or would you rather have Dallas Goddard, who's been pretty good for seven games now, basically. Goddard or Gasicki? Goddard, who's, you know, he's been pretty good for like seven games now, basically. Goddard or Gasicki? Goddard's got the Giants, then Washington, and then Dallas. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:32 They both have good matchups, at least for the next two games. Right. The Giants have been really tough on tight ends this year, right? They haven't faced any good ones. But they've been really tough on tight ends, right? They're like second or third against tight ends, yeah. But I don't buy it for one second I feel gross going either way
Starting point is 00:59:48 with this one I'll say Gusecki has a little more upside but it feels gross Heath I said Gusecki three times now Cincinnati 22 and the Jets 6 Heath Cincinnati 22 and the Jets 6.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Believe it or not, you can start both Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt in the fantasy playoffs. Oh, okay. Well, I guess we're on the Cleveland game because I just said Cincinnati 22, Jets 6. Nope. I guess we're on the Cleveland game. All right, let's jump to the Cleveland game. We'll come back to the Jets 6. Nope. I guess we're on the Cleveland game. All right, let's jump to the Cleveland game.
Starting point is 01:00:28 We'll come back to the Jets. Pittsburgh 20, Cleveland 13. Believe it or not, you could start both Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt in the fantasy playoffs. Dave? I believe it if it's a PPR league. Okay, that's fair. They got the Bengals next week, then at Arizona.
Starting point is 01:00:44 It doesn't get much better than that. And then Arizona. It doesn't get much better than that. And then Baltimore in Week 16 doesn't get much worse than that. Yeah, I agree with Dave. I believe it in a PPR league. Yeah, I believe it in any league this week and next week, and then no leagues in Week 16. Okay, how about, believe it or not, yeah, Odell Beckham is a must-start the next two weeks,
Starting point is 01:01:05 Cincinnati and at Arizona. Because of the matchups, I think you can believe it. And believe it or not, Jarvis Landry is the top 48 pick next year. Believe it. In PPR, I think you can believe that. He's been better than Odell. I think it's now six straight weeks. You know what?
Starting point is 01:01:27 I think he's going to be a bust next year. All these red zone targets that he's getting, all these targets inside the 10-yard line, he came into the game leading the league in targets inside the 10-yard line. I don't think that's going to continue next year. I think Beckham will get more. I think Njoku will get more.
Starting point is 01:01:45 He's going to be a bust. I think Beckham will get more. I think Njoku will get more. He's going to be a bust. You heard it here first, folks. All right, ready for the Jets game now? Yeah. Okay, believe it or not on the Jets and the Bengals. Believe it or not, you can start five Jets this week against the Dolphins. Yeah. I think you can. I believe it. Yep it yep i believe it believe it or not do not
Starting point is 01:02:09 take joe mixon out of your lineup ever idiot did you sit joe mixon adam yes i did a lot of people did he was only started in 40 no 68 leagues. He didn't have a great game. You're going to start him next week. No, he didn't. He found the end zone. Yeah. You'll start him next week, and then in week 15 when he plays the Patriots, you're not going to use him.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And then week 16 when he's at Miami, you're going to use him, and he'll be start of the week, and everything's going to go great. He'll help you win a fantasy championship. All right, well, Joe Mixon, I mean, he has come through with at least solid games against really good run defenses pretty much week after week now, it seems. So, got to give him some credit.
Starting point is 01:02:51 He's getting the work. He's at least giving you like seven points or something as a floor. And finally, Green Bay 31 and the Giants 13. Believe it or not, Darius Slayton is actually the best wide receiver on the Giants. Man. Believe it or not, Darius Slayton is actually the best wide receiver on the Giants. I don't believe it. No, I don't either.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Golden Tate. Right. I believe he now has 30 targets over his last three games, had more targets than Sterling Shepard, more catches, and more yards in this game. Right. He doesn't get a lot of red zone targets. He's a big play guy, so I'm not sure
Starting point is 01:03:26 he's going to get the touchdowns unless they're big plays, whereas Shepard entered the game's second most red zone targets on the team and he only played five games. That's why I might give
Starting point is 01:03:35 the nod to Shepard there. But that's pretty reasonable. You know? I would say I like Golden Tate the best if they're all healthy, but I don't know. Caden Smith had six catches for 70 yards if you happen to stream him.
Starting point is 01:03:48 We talked about him all week, so that was nice. That worked out. I'm just disappointed. I know it's going to sound crazy. I'm not disappointed in the fantasy production because Devontae Adams caught two touchdowns, but I'm disappointed that he's gotten double-digit targets four straight games, and he's had 41, 118, 43, and 64 yards.
Starting point is 01:04:09 It's not coming as easily to Devontae Adams as I thought it would. He is fine in the end zone. That's good. And he's getting a lot of catches. Like, you start him. It's not really a complaint. But it's an observation. I feel like the production should be even a little bit better,
Starting point is 01:04:22 at least in terms of yards. We're getting 2017 Devontae Adams with a bad toe. Well, and I don't know that it's just 2017 Devontae Adams. On an efficiency basis, we're getting every year besides last year Devontae Adams. Fair point. Okay. I don't have time to argue that, so we're going to go.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I don't remember when I told you that Tom Brady was finding out about that defense. He's gone two for nine with an interception since. Sorry. We're out of here. Bye. Bye. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

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