Fantasy Football Today - 12/07: Start or Sit (NFC); Oh, Henry! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 7, 2018

So, did you start Derrick Henry? Of course you didn't! But let's all marvel at how great he was and discuss his rest of season outlook along with Leonard Fournette's before we have some rankings debates (8:30) about the MIN offense, David Johnson and Mitchell Trubisky ... Our final thoughts on the Waiver Wire RBs (17:08), the Startometer (21:18) for the DET-ARI and NYG-WAS games plus Beat the Waiver Wire (22:33) ... MIN-SEA (25:00), LAR-CHI (32:30), NO-TB (39:30), ATL-GB (48:10), DEN-SF (51:51), PHI-DAL (54:50), DET-ARI (58:01), NYG-WAS (1:00:04) ... Email us at [e-mail] This episode is sponsored by www.ZipRecruiter.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Get your lineup set. It's time for Star Tours 6. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. Derek Henry rushes into the record books.

On your bench, started at only 14% of the last night CBS SportsLeaks. Welcome, everybody. The fantasy playoffs have begun. It is Friday, December 7th. Adam Azer with Heath Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg. Did you play against or did you start Derrick Henry in any leagues last night? Neither. I had him on the bench in one league,

and I had him in my starting lineup in one league where I just missed the playoffs. Jamie, I know Jamie, you didn't have quite as much luck in that department last night. No, I played against him in one league. Thankfully, it's not the playoffs. It's a 10-team league, so we start the playoffs next

week. But it's an undefeated team for me. And so I'll see if I have some magic left, but it's going to be tough to keep that intact. Have either of you guys ever had an undefeated season? No.

Neither have I. I know Nick Kostos did it last year. Quite impressive. Will Brinson has one right now, I think. Really? Does he? I think our auction... I'll check. Quite impressive. Well, it definitely wasn't the best fantasy game in NFL history. I believe that belongs to Clinton Portis in non-PPR and half PPR. And I think Jamal Charles in PPR. That's just for running backs. Portis had 254 total yards and five touchdowns with two catches. Jamal Charles had 215 total yards, but he had eight catches.

So he had 20 rushing guards, Jamal Charles. Eight carries, 20 rushing guards, and a touchdown. Eight catches, 195 yards, and four touchdowns. I think that's the best game in PPR. If anybody out there has any other information, please let me know. So how mad are you when you texted me last night in my response to you? Oh, my God. It was so mean.

Not mean. So he texted me last night. How do we find out who had the best performances in fantasy history? Single game performance in fantasy history. I rephrased it. Do you want me to read it verbatim? Yes, sir. Go ahead.

By the way, while you're looking it up, Will Brinson, 13-0 in our auction league. Listen to this team. Patrick Mahomes, Saquon Barkley, and Todd Gurley. Wow. Brandon Cooks and Adam Thielen as his receivers. Zach Ertz as his tight end. Nick Chubb as his flex. His bench is not so good outside of the fact that he does have George Kittle also.

And Doug Baldwin if Baldwin ever gets him. Wow, that's a heck of a team. But that starting lineup is insane. He has, and I haven't seen anything close to this. He has scored 2,018 fantasy points this year. Wow, that's a heck of a year. Yeah. He'll lose. How do we find out the best fantasy games for a running back in NFL history?

Look them up. How? My friend said Clinton Portis had a five-touchdown game. Google. That's it, Jamie. Google is according to me. Google it. Thanks.

Most touchdowns in a game, most yards in a game. You'll see it. And he was right. I did see it. So, Jamie, great in a game, most yards in a game. You'll see it. And he was right. I did see it. So, Jamie, great advice. I mean, you know what you did? This is what a certain person's wife does to him on a constant basis, uses him as Google. Oh, yeah.

I remember Scott White a year ago, I think, beginning of baseball season, was writing something. And I wasn't even in the office. He texted me from his desk to ask me where the royals play their spring training games all right guys uh so listen what are your thoughts on this game uh what are your thoughts on derrick henry moving forward do you have confidence in him now and he gets the oh he gets the giants next week that's amazing i think just because and and then the weekants next week. That's amazing. I think just because... And then the week after that, I believe it's Washington.

Yes, it is. Also good. And so you have the setup as amazing as possible. I tweeted the Giants numbers for running backs allowed last night and somebody replied back to me, when was the last time you saw a shooting star the second time around?

Yeah. Yeah, it's true. There's obvious, you know, I mean, he's definitely going to be a letdown from where he is, but he has scored now in five of his last seven games. And so given what the workload has been, you know, I know, Heath, you talked about this quite a bit the last couple of weeks,

how they've made the transition back to Derrick Henry as the lead guy. I can't imagine a scenario where he's not getting 15 carries against the Giants. And it's been five games in a row since they lost Damon Harrison and five games where there's been a running back that has scored at least 14 PPR points. Not just that, Jamie. Five games in a row where a running back has had his best or second best game of the season against the Giants. That won't happen next week. You've also best game of the season against the Giants. Okay, yeah, I mean, you know. That won't happen next week. You've also, true.

It could be a second best. The last two weeks for the Giants, and this is going to be an interesting game for them, clearly, but it's more on the Washington offense than it is the Giants defense. But, like, Josh Adams was not as great as Matt Breida or Peyton Barber the two weeks prior. And then Jordan Howard, given where he's at, played well, but only 76 yards rushing for him. So I think if you just say that he's in that range, Adams was 84 yards. Yeah. I think Henry could be 75 to 85 yards with a touchdown.

And I don't know, like, where you think you're going to rank him, Heath. I'm going to put him in the number two running back range. You have to against the Giants. Yeah. I would guess he'll be around 24 for me. We have eight games to get to today and a lot of starters sit. So, you know, We'll obviously be able to talk about that all week next week. It is interesting

and it is amazing. He's earned more playing time. Leonard Fournette, I just want to make sure we get to Leonard Fournette. Heath, you were low on him. I thought you were kind of crazy. He had his chances near the goal line and he couldn't get in, but only 14 carries. This is a weird game.

He had a bad game. Not much else to say about Fournette. Well, and I moved him up a little bit, so I hate myself for that. But it turns out it's a bad combination to have Giants cast-offs as your offensive line and Cody Kessler as your quarterback. There's no one blocking for you and no threat of a downfield passing game. You know what's funny? I actually thought Kessler didn't look awful when he had the chance to throw.

I agree. He made a couple of good throws. He had a connection with Didi, who is like, just throw in the ball ten times a game. Do you think he was in? The touchdown? Yes, I do. I didn't think he was until they came back from break and showed that second angle, and I think he was. Corey Davis dropped a touchdown.

That was annoying. Mariota could have had a pretty good game, but it just— He wasn't really very good. He was Mariota, you know. He did his job. Hand the ball off. 164 yards. Your running back couldn't get tackled.

I thought they were trying to break his arm on the last attempt to get him the fifth touchdown. I forget the linebacker, Russ. He just grabbed his arm and looked like he was about to do a Ronda Rousey arm bar. And they were pretty excited about keeping him out of the end zone. Good job, Jacksonville. All right, so that's basically it. Taewon Taylor, I would not mind having him in a Dynasty League. He looks like a pretty good player.

But I don't know how fantasy relevant he is. Do you have confidence? Last question, do you have confidence in Corey Davis moving forward? Yep. He'll be a borderline number two, number three receiver. I mean, the Giants, you know, you've seen that secondary enough to know what they are. Washington's the same thing.

No, we don't because this is going to be their first game without Landon Collins. It could make a big difference. Oh, true. And Jonathan Smith, we don't know how long he's going to be out. Right. They also lost Tajay Sharp. Well, Tajay Sharp hurt his ankle and right tackle Jack Conklin left with a knee injury. Okay.

We've got so many emails in the inbox, and I haven't had a chance to get to any of them, really, because we have the mailbag show coming up, and that will be airing tomorrow afternoon. We're going to record it this afternoon, and that is going to be a very extensive mailbag. Heath is on the mailbag with me, and Heath is just like, quick, quick, quick, answer, answer, answer. He's very efficient. So we'll get to a bunch of your questions. Make sure you tune in for that. And you can email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com.

And please sign up for our FanDuel contest. It's only $5. $5 to join our FanDuel contest at FanDuel.com slash FFT. FanDuel.com slash FFT. Rankings debates. Not much here. I want to talk about Trubisky because Heath has him eighth. Dave and Jamie have Trubisky 16th.

But Minnesota, specifically Cousins and Cook. I feel like you guys are a little low on them. Cousins is 17th for Jamie, 14th for Heath. Cook is around 20th, a little higher in PPR. And I just look at Seattle's defense the last six weeks. It's bad. Almost every fantasy-relevant player is doing well against them. So why, and maybe it's just because quarterback's so deep,

but why is Cousins 17th for Jamie, 14th for Heath? I think this is a relatively low-scoring game. I still believe in that building. And in this, I think it'll be a pretty wild environment, Monday Night Football, with the playoff spot still hanging in the balance. So I don't, and also 14 at quarterback is playoff spot still hanging in the balance. So I don't... And also, 14 at quarterback is not saying he's going to be bad.

He's averaged 16.8 points in his last four road games. He is 5-12 in his career in primetime games. He is 1-4 in his career with the Vikings this year in primetime games. His last one was great, right, though? The Saints, his last game. His last primetime game was the Saints, right?

Sure. And he lit them up. I apologize. I interrupted you. No, I just don't think part of the reason why teams play well against Seattle is because they score so efficiently. I do not expect that to happen this week. I don't like Russell Wilson this week either.

I think both those guys are going to struggle. I think it's going to be a low-scoring game. Okay. And Dalvin Cook. So, you know, you have him behind some or many of the replacement guys, I believe. And, you know, I'll just get my handy-dandy stats on this game. So, the average passer rating for Seattle's last six quarterbacks to face Seattle is 108.4, which would be the seventh best in the NFL.

A running back has 100 total yards in five straight games against the Seahawks, and a wide receiver has 91 or more receiving yards in six straight games against the Seahawks. And you guys have Thielen and Diggs high. But 100 total yards in five straight games for a running back against Seattle. I kind of thought, Jamie, I thought that would be the kind of stat that would get you excited about Dalvin Cook. I mean, I like Dalvin Cook. I just don't know where the ceiling actually is for him yet.

I would like to see him get more than 10 carries in a game. That would excite me. He's done that once all year, and it was week one. That is true. Yeah. The catches are pretty good. That is true. Yeah. The catches are pretty good for him, though. Yeah.

They were awesome last week, and if he gets 10 targets this week, then we're going to be too low on him. But the three games before that, it was 4-3-3. All right. So would you start Jeff Wilson over Cook? I would. Yeah. And both Chargers guys? Yeah. Yep. I would not start Jackson over Cook

and PPR. Samuels? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Why so high on David Johnson? Top 12 running back. You know what I'm going to say about Detroit. I think Touch is in a game where they can win.

Okay. I'm not going to fight you on that. But David Johnson is a top 12 running back and does have a tough matchup, but he's getting more than 20 touches a game. And let's talk about Mitch Trubisky. Mitchell Trubisky, pardon me. 16th for Jamie, 8th for Heath, 16th for Dave. Heath, you are the high guy on Trubisky. Yeah, and I didn't really expect to early in the week.

But just the more that I looked at it, I think that the Bears are probably going to have to be throwing. I think that if you look at what Trubisky has done fantasy-wise, he's been awesome. He had 25 fantasy points in five of his last seven games. And this defense is better with a keep to leave. Otherwise, I'd probably have Trubisky ranked in the top three or four. But I like the fact that he gives you a little bit of floor with his rushing production.

And I expect him to have to attempt quite a few passes. I would like to rank one of his receivers higher if I knew which one he was going to throw to. Yeah, I don't really like the setup for him because I don't think this is going to be Rams come in and put up 40 points because his Bears defense is good. So I don't see a situation where it's like this crazy comeback effort for him because I don't think this is going to be Rams come in and put up 40 points because his Bears defense is good. So I don't see a situation where

it's like this crazy comeback effort for him. I think it's going to be kind of a little bit of a back and forth type of game. I am a little bit nervous about the offensive line for Chicago in the middle of their line without Kyle Long there. We've seen them struggle a little bit. And where's the strength of the Rams defense? It's in

the middle of their defensive line. So I also don't know how healthy his shoulder is. Obviously, he's practicing full, so you have to assume that he's 100%. But this defense, I think, is going to start to trend in the right direction, and Trubisky makes me nervous in this spot. One guy I moved behind him yesterday was Cam Newton. Oh, really? Because I feel better about his shoulder than I do Cam's shoulder right now.

Okay. And, Jamie, since you feel better about his shoulder than I do Cam's shoulder right now. Okay. And, Jamie, since you're obviously lower on Trubisky, would you start Cousins or Wilson over him? I would start Wilson over him, and I'd start him over Cousins. All righty. Well, one thing we can all agree on is the absolute greatness of Omaha Steaks and the package you can get from Omaha Steaks, the family gift package. How about, this is $195. $195. Okay. We'll take 74% off of that and give it to you for

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So please take advantage of this awesome offer. Go to omahasteaks.com, type in FFT in the search box, and get that limited-time package for $49.99. News and notes, Melvin Gordon mispracticed. Still expecting him to miss the game. Rob Gronkowski's going to play. Evan Ingram looks like he's going to play. He practiced in full.

Isaiah Crowell mispracticed with a toe injury. Do we think Isaiah Crowell might miss this week's game? Let's see what he does today. Yeah. For those people not relying on Isaiah Crowell, I would actually like to see Elijah McGuire play to see what could potentially happen with him in a future role. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, would you be willing to start him if Crowell's out? Maybe in the flex conversation in deeper leagues. I don't think anybody in a 12-team or 10-team league playoff situation is going to start Elijah McGuire. Let's say Crowell is out and McGuire is in. Who would you prefer? Spencer Ware, who I know we're kind of down on this week, or Maguire?

Still Ware. I'd probably rank Maguire higher. All right, Eric Ebron mispracticed with an illness, so I think we still expect him to play, but something worth monitoring. Joe Mixon was limited with a foot injury. Do we think Mixon plays? Yeah, I think he was actually full yesterday, wasn't he?

Okay, I'm sorry. I thought he was limited. Whatever it was on Wednesday, I think, was improved on Thursday. Okay. Cam Newton expected to play. Chris Carson expected to play. Doug Baldwin missed practice. Are we concerned about Baldwin playing?

He misses a lot of practice. Yeah, not yet, but you can't start him. He has another injury. Right. This is a lot of practice. Yeah, not yet, but you can't start him. He has another injury. Right. This is a hip. Right. Which is attached to the groin, which is not far from the knee.

But he almost has a full connected injury. By your logic, he has a neck injury. He just needs a hamstring. Okay. Sammy Watkins was limited in practice again, and Kansas City signed Kelvin Benjamin. Yeah, now they can run three 10-in sets. And this, you know, I know people don't think that this is relevant.

Oakland wide receiver Seth Roberts missed practice due to a concussion, but that is a guy who had six targets last week. He's somewhat involved in the passing game. Could only help Jared Cook and, say, Jordy Nelson if Seth Roberts misses the game, which he seems likely he will. And Marcel Aitman. Okay, and Marcel Aitman, sure. I wanted to do this yesterday and now it feels repetitive,

so I don't know how much I want to do it, but one more time let's talk about those waiver wire running backs and you can just give me your quick thoughts, although I think we pretty much got it, except for Jeff Wilson, who will break down today, but Chargers against Cincinnati, Edelman and Jackson, go. I'll say start them.

I'll say Eckler is still going to be good. The great thing for the Chargers— Did I say Edelman? What? I said Edelman instead of Eckler. I don't know what you're talking about, yeah. I said Eckler and Jackson. I meant Eckler and Jackson.

Go ahead. The Chargers and Steelers have such incredible matchups that I don't think you have to worry about if one of these guys is only getting 12 touches. 12 touches is enough against these defenses. So I still expect Eckler to see close to double digit carries

and 5 to 6 targets in this game and score a touchdown. I think Jackson gets double digit carries, maybe only 1 or 2 targets, and scores a touchdown in this game. And I touchdown. I think Jackson gets double-digit carries, maybe only one or two targets, and scores a touchdown in this game. And I'm starting both of them. I'm starting Jalen Samuels. Ridley's the one out of this whole group that I'm not

really that excited about, but he has a desperation touchdown to Penn and Flex. Yeah, I think the one thing to fear with Eckler is if they score early without him doing anything based on Anthony Lynn's comment about keeping him rested, then we could see him maybe not doing much in the second half.

So of the guys in non... I think you just have to take a chance with Eckler and PPR based on what his role is on this team. But of the Samuels, Jackson, Eckler, Wilson group, in non-PPR, Eckler makes me the most nervous.

In non-PPR? In non-PPR. Because I can see a situation of him getting the same touches Heath just said, but 30 rushing yards, maybe 30 receiving yards, and those six points are going to really kill you. And then I think Wilson facing Denver, I think he really Denver, I think he really needs to be involved in the

passing game. And I hope he is, and he had eight catches last week. Because look at the last six running backs against Denver. Just their rushing totals. David Johnson. Yeah, but he's going to be involved in the pass. You're not going from him getting nine targets and eight catches, and Kyle Shanahan coming off that game saying that was by design

to facing this Broncos defense and saying we're not going to do the exact same thing. All right. Just to frame it, David Johnson at 39 yards rushing. Hunt had 50. Lamar Miller had 21. Melvin Gordon had 69. Connor had 53. Joe Mixon did have a good game last week, 82 yards on 12 carries.

Right. But Hunt, Gordon, and Mixon, I know, I think there might be one more guy, had 95 total yards. Yeah, yeah, the receiving totals were very important for them. Yeah, you have to have him catch passes this week. So, again, I think you look at it. Right now I have it ranked. I have to switch it.

I think Jackson's better than Wilson in non-PPR, but in PPR I don't think it's close. Okay, you're going to have Wilson ahead of Justin Jackson in PPR. Yeah, because I don't think it's close. You're going to have Wilson ahead of Justin Jackson in PPR. Yeah. Jackson's going to need to score. How many carries do you think Alfred Morris gets? Five? Seven? I think seven's a good number.

Alright, yeah, and that's the thing. If he had seven carries against Oakland or Cincinnati, maybe we'd feel like he's a desperation flex. But against Denver, that's just not enough. And the big problem is I don't know if Alfred Morris is on the field if they fall down two scores. And that's relatively possible. I think they could win.

I mean, no Emmanuel Sanders, no Chris Harris. That is one crappy game, ladies and gentlemen. They went from the beginning of the season, Demarius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, Cortland Sutton as their top three receivers, Jake Butt as their— I mean, he may not have been, but our thought was Jake Butt as the primary tight end, to now Cortland Sutton, Deshaun Hamilton, and Tim Patrick with Matt Lacoste. I mean, that's just an amazing turnaround for an entire receiving corps. Let's do the start-o-meter. And they've got two tight ends along the way.

Yeah, and their center, maybe someone else on the line. And let's do the start-o-meter for the last two games we'll preview today in case you're not sticking around for it. The Arizona-Detroit game and the Giants-Redskins game. LeGarrette Blount at Arizona. I think he's in the starting conversation in non-PPR. He's gotten 16 carries two games in a row, and Arizona's run defense has been bad.

I'll go four in non-PPR, one in PPR. Okay, I'll do seven in non-PPR, five in PPR. Thank you, Heath and Jamie. Theo Riddick in PPR only. Theo Riddick. Four. Five. Kenny Galladay. Nine.

Seven. Yeah, I mean, number one receivers have destroyed Arizona lately. Larry Fitzgerald. Six. Yeah, six. Evan Ingram. Four. Yeah, six. Evan Ingram. Four. Yeah.

Adrian Peterson. Six. Seven. Yeah, I mean, that's a terrible situation offensively in an amazing matchup. Yeah, it's really quite the – it's kind of like that Denver-San Francisco game. We've got a lot of bad football teams playing this week. Jets-Bills. Yeah, yeah.

Titans-Jags. Maybe the Titans are good. All right, let's beat the waiver wire real quick. Yeah, you know, I don't think it's great, but maybe I'm missing somebody. The DSTs... If somebody dropped Minnesota, very, very possible. They've got the Dolphins next week. The Saints are at Carolina on Monday night.

Cleveland is at Denver. I don't think you're going to want to gamble on that. And Washington is at Jacksonville. That would be certainly one to look at, Washington at Jacksonville. Man, they just showed that Derrick Henry run again on the TV in this room. I know Jacksonville did a really bad job, but holy cow, was that a great run. It's just so stupid that they haven't just been – like if I was Mike Vrabel, I'd walk into whatever room that it is

that has a whiteboard and just circle number 15. Write number 15 and circle it. He's got to get 15 carries every game. What? Oh my gosh. Have you been paying attention to what happened to the first 13 games of the season? Do you know what happens when this guy hits you 15 times?

Jamie, he's been so bad this year. Look at the beginning of the year. They gave him, they gave him the work. They had games where they won, where he was getting 18 carries. You have to at least put the threat of that physical presence on the field

and take your chances and we'll see what happens. He – no. He has not earned it. I know yards per carry means the world to you. No, he hasn't earned it. He hasn't earned it. You have to attack defenses a certain way, and this guy hurts defenses. He's up over four yards per carry now.

Yeah, yeah, great. It was at, what, 3.6 or something going into the game. He hasn't earned it this year. He got the opportunity early. He was terrible. At no point before last week were we saying, after week three when he stopped getting the work, were we saying, Derek Henry needs more work. Like, no, we never said that.

We were saying, Deion Lewis needs more work. Lamar Jackson is Tampa Bay, in theory. Doug Martin at Cincinnati is not a bad option. He's like 70-something percent owned. And Jordy Nelson at Cincinnati. Jordy's the one that I was thinking if I just had a roster spot I was playing with, and he got 12 targets

last week, even if he's not good this week, but you see him get 8, 9, 10 targets, I'm going to be very interested in him against Cincinnati. I hope Doug Martin's healthy by next week. Two running back. Martin and LeGarrette Blunt are kind of in the same boat. Martin's at Cincinnati.

Blunt's at Buffalo. Might be able to steal you some points as a flex. Let's go to the games. Minnesota is at Seattle. Stat of the games. I gave them to you. It's just how bad Seattle's been against competition in the last six weeks. And we already debated Kirk Cousins.

So if you want to hear about Kirk Cousins, please check out our rankings debates section. And you want to expand a little bit more about Dalvin Cook? You just want to see more of a workload before we commit to him? I mean, look, you're starting Dalvin Cook. I can understand if you want to take the chances on these guys that you picked up off waivers. But if he's gotten you to this point with the way he's been playing,

there's definitely an arrow pointing up with what could happen for him. Okay, so he's top 20, but he's not... I don't think he's, like, top 16 or anything. No. And I'll give you some flexes. Dalvin Cook or Larry Fitzgerald? I'll take Fitzgerald and PPR Cook and non-PPR. Okay.

That sounded close enough to me that I was actually looking at my rankings. I think I will take Dalvin Cook in non-PPR and in PPR. Okay, thank you, Heath. We'll move on from that. Again, we talked about Dalvin Cook in the rankings debate section. So is there any hesitation to start Adam Thielen? He's struggling lately. I can't sit him.

No way. Okay. It is a good matchup. Like I said, wide receivers had 91 or more yards in six straight games against Seattle. Including Dante Pettis last week. Kyle Rudolph. Any interest in Kyle Rudolph? I don't want to start

Kyle Rudolph. Although, did you watch the Thanks Kyle video on Twitter last night? No. Yeah, you need to watch that. The Vikings tweeted it out. It's like seven minutes long. You need to go watch every second of it. Why? What is it?

It's his video for his nomination for Man of the Year. Oh. And it's all these kids and parents that he's gone and visited the hospital. Oh. Writing him letters. Oh, my gosh. And him reading the letters. It's fantastic.

Now I want to start letters. It's fantastic. Now I want to start him. What's that? Now I want to start him. Yeah, I don't want to start him because then I'd be mad at him after the game and I just want to stay happy with him. Yeah, Seattle's been very good against tight ends, although I think only two tight ends have more than five targets against Seattle this year. Oh, no, two tight ends have more than four targets against Seattle this year.

And Kyle Rudolph's been bad, so we'll try to get away from Rudolph. Any waiver-wire tight ends? Herndon, I assume you'd start over him? That's the one. Yep. What about Matt Lacoste or Dan Arnold? I think those guys are interesting. It just comes down to what your comfort level is with those

guys. I don't think they'll be that much worse than Rudolph. Right. Rudolph has a higher ceiling, though, if he plays the way that he's capable of playing. But we just haven't seen that yet. Yeah, there are eight tight ends that I have projected between 5.0 and 6.0 fantasy points. And he's one of them. And Matt Lacoste is one of them. And so, whatever.

One of them will score a touchdown, maybe two. Russell Wilson. one of them and so like whatever okay one of them will score a touchdown maybe two uh russell wilson so 14th for jamie eighth for dave 12th for heath eight straight games with 22 or more fantasy points for russell wilson 25 or more fantasy points and six point for passing touchdown leagues in six of those eight games he's been outstanding in tough matchups how has russell wilson done uh 25 fantasy points at Denver in week one. 18 fantasy points at Chicago. 19 against Dallas. 8 at the Rams. Why did I put that in there?

Is that with Tlaib? I don't think the other games were with Tlaib. No. Tlaib hasn't played since week three. Okay, that was an easy match up and he didn't do well. And 23 fantasy points against the Chargers. So he really hasn't been grading those tough matchups, and that's reflected in your rankings.

I mean, it's just, again, the numbers with Everson Griffin on the field, it's now, it's gotten better. But 12.8 points per game for opposing quarterbacks. And the quarterbacks they've faced. Amazing. Rodgers twice, Brees and Brady. Yeah.

Stop there. And Trubisky. I mean, yeah, you could throw Trubisky, Garoppolo week one before he was hurt. Yeah, it's been amazing. Okay, Chris Carson, start or sit? I'd rather sit him. Yeah, flex at best. Spencer Ware or Chris Carson?

Don't forget it. With Russell Wilson and with Chris Carson. DJ Fluker is out. And a lot of their success running the ball came when Fluker was playing great. It's true. I just want to point out they had one game a few weeks ago without him and they did run the ball well but that is true. Carson or where?

I'll take where? I'll take Carson but they're separated by like two-tenths of a point in my projections. Steven Ridley or Carson? Carson. Carson. Carson. Doug Baldwin, Tyler Lockett, David Moore. Anybody?

I'll use Lockett as a high-end flex. Baldwin maybe in PPR as a high-end flex if he plays, but no. David Moore got replaced by Jerron Brown last week. Yeah, I'd be nervous about these guys. You would assume Lockett will move

in the slot a little bit, but that's most likely where Xavier Rhodes goes. And Lockett is the most touchdown-dependent receiver that we have that is playing well. Oh yeah, I know. It's crazy. He gets like four to six targets every week and he catches a touchdown almost every week. He had two last week, right?

He has three games this season where he's failed to score a touchdown. Going into last week, he was the only top 24 PPR wide receiver with under 50 catches. Yeah, all right. And is Lockett a better flex than, say, Chris Carson? I'd probably rather have Chris Carson, just based on touches. What a fascinating game this is, I think. Yeah. Really looking forward to it.

Would you start either DST? I would prefer not to. Yeah, I don't really want to. It's going to be a really interesting game. Who do you think wins? I think Minnesota's better, but I kind of feel like Seattle wins. I think Seattle wins a low-scoring game. Yeah, I think exactly what you said, Adam.

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According to the NFL Network, Duke Johnson has been away from the team because of the death of his grandmother. Oh. So our condolences there. But the report is he may not play Sunday. Wow. Okay.

A little boost for Nick Chubb. But that's sad. Very sorry to hear that. Yep. All right. Rams at Bears. Stat of the game. A keep to leave that. Yep. All right, Rams at Bears. Stat of the game. A keep to leave, yada, yada, yada.

I think the question is how much you buy into it. Because Talib played like 30% of the snaps last week. He didn't even play that much. And they still played so much better against the Bears. It's also, though, keep in mind that when Talib was healthy early in the season, they also didn't have Dante Fowler. So you have the threat of a pass rush now, at least an improved one. You have the threat of a better secondary.

And you have a situation where most teams against them are chasing points. So you know what they're doing. Plus, you have the best defensive player in the league. Yeah, pretty good. All right, so here's stat of the game number two Which is a different subject It's about Trey Burton Do the Rams have allowed a touchdown Or 90 yards

Or both To five tight ends in their last six games Two of them were Kittle and Kelsey But three of them were not Any interest in Trey Burton this week? Was it Trey Burton or Adam Shaheen? Yeah, that's a good question. Burton, for me, is in that same

Kyle Rudolph, Evan Ingram, Matt Lacoste crap burger. And he could catch five passes for 60 yards and score two touchdowns or he could get one target yeah i have no interest in no it's so frustrating okay so we talked about trubisky heath has him i think eighth jamie like what was it 16 something like that yeah 16th for dave and jamie trubisky eighth for heath if you want to hear that discussion, please rewind and listen to the rankings debate. We'll stick with the Bears. We talked about Burton.

Is there any good start? Is Cohen a good start? Amazing start. I'm starting Cohen for sure. What about Howard? This is not a good run defense. No. I don't want to start Howard.

I've got him behind Ware and Carson. He's really a lot like LeGarrette Blount for me. I'd rather start Howard than Blount in PPR and Blount than Howard in none. Yeah, I'll take LeGarrette Blount all day over Jordan Howard. Does it bother you at all that the Rams allow the fifth fewest receiving yards to running backs when it comes to Cohen? Not with Cohen, no. Would you start any of the waiver wire guys over Cohen?

No. In non-PPR, probably not. It's really close. With who? With Jackson? They're all right in the same range for me in non PPR alright how about I'm sorry if you said this but how are we feeling about Allen Robinson

number three yeah little interest okay and really no interest in Trey Burton so then let's go to the Rams Gurley is an easy start. Adam, wait, I'm sorry. What did you say about the Rams, the receiving numbers? Two tight ends?

It's a running back. Fifth fewest receiving yards? Oh, receiving yards, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. They have allowed a touchdown to a running back through the air in three of the last four games. Yeah. But if you look at what they did, like Camara, in those three games where they allowed a touchdown to a tight end, or four games, right? A touchdown to a running back.

Kamara had 34 yards. Mike Davis had 22. Kareem Hunt had 41. And then last week, Theo Riddick had 26. Oh, I'm not saying it's great. But, you know, again, they're getting their running backs in the end zone. Yeah. And Rams.

Gurley, yes. Are Cooks and Woods automatic starts? Yeah. Yes. Whether they're number ones most week or number two probably this week, yes, they're starting them. How about Josh Reynolds? No. Okay. Honestly, the Bears aren't that good against wide receivers. They're

18th against wide receivers, so you should feel good about Cooks and Woods. But you guys all have Jared Goff 15th this week. Interesting. Disgusting. I mean, it's a road game against a defense that has a good pass rush. So I think he'll be

good. I don't think he'll be great. It's a similar situation to Cousins with Thielen and Diggs both being good, but Cousins just being okay. I feel about the same way about Goff. I would imagine that one of them score and one of them has good yards. I don't think you're getting two touchdowns out of both receivers. I don't have any interest in Josh Reynolds.

I think that Robert Woods will get about 70 yards because he does that every game. Last week he had 67 yards was the second fewest of the season all right so golf uh oh there's only one thing jamie i think you've do you have josh allen over jared golf i do wow in your fantasy playoffs dude really absolutely oh boy that's i'm playing somebody who is starting him i think over josh allen i think over matt ryan yeah i'm not there yet but i'm starting him over russell wilson over kirk cousins over carson wentz over trubisky and over jericho yeah this this person has met ryan mitchell trubisky and josh allen and they This person has Matt Ryan, Mitchell Trubisky, and Josh Allen, and they have Josh Allen

and they're starting on it. And just to practice what I preach, I'm in a first-round Dynasty matchup, and I'm starting Josh Allen over Carson Wentz. I can understand that because Wentz just doesn't really have much upside. He has two games with more than 24 fantasy points.

He has a tough matchup. But Allen has as much downside as any quarterback in fantasy. I mean, so it is scary to me to start him over Jared Goff, who is the number six quarterback in fantasy. Yep. That is terrifying. One guy's playing the Bears, and one guy's playing the Jets. I know, but one guy's Jared Goff,

and they have arguably the best offensive line in the NFL. And one guy's Josh Allen and they have arguably the best offensive line in the NFL. And one guy's Josh Allen, who probably has the worst offensive line in the NFL. Well, Jacksonville's probably the worst. But, hey man, you know what? It's bold. It's bold. It's just fun. All right, what about the DSTs in this game, Rams and Bears? They're low-end starting options. Yeah, I don't feel like there's a lot of upside for either of them but i you don't have to get away from them i prefer to okay bills

dealers uh saints titans for sure titans yeah saints the titans should have had a better game i feel like they should have had at least three defensive touchdowns against that terrible team. New Orleans at Tampa Bay. The NFC home games are so much harder than the AFC home games, I feel. Including, is this game hard? I don't know. New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Stat of the game number one.

Tampa Bay has not allowed more than 24 fantasy points to a quarterback in six-point-per-pass passing touchdown leagues in seven straight games. Now, if you don't play in six points for passing touchdown leagues, 24 points is solid, but it's not league winning stuff. Do you think Breeze breaks that 24 mark? I think it really, I mean, it's hard. I don't think he's going to have an enormous day in terms of attempts. I don't think he's going to have an enormous day in terms of yards. And you know, you don't expect anything from him on the ground. So it's just going to come down to I think he probably throws

two passing touchdowns. If he throws three or four on 19 attempts, then yeah, he has a big day. But I like him as a low-end starter, but I prefer Jameis. I'll take Breeze over Jameis. I think it's close. Again, it didn't work out as I expected Thursday

with some of the intangibles that typically go into some of the things the Saints do, but this is one of the two teams that beat them. This is Breeze getting thrown off his MVP track a little bit, and it is a defense that you can have success against if you do score touchdowns. Now, we saw him against the Falcons two games ago. Not have a high yardage total, but still found the end zone four times. I think it could be one of those type of games, too.

I got to be honest with you. I gave you the stat. Seven straight games where a quarterback has not scored more than 24 fantasy points. I'm looking at the list. It's atrocious. Of the guys? Yeah. And not just that.

Mayfield, Dalton, Cam, Alex Smith, and Manning all had passer ratings over 100. So I am not really buying that there's a big turnaround here for Tampa Bay. Oh, my God. Eli was 156. Yeah, he missed one pass. He was 16 of 17, right? 17 of 18. 17 of 18.

So I am not quite buying it. It's just a matter of are they just going to run the ball a ton and he's not going to throw? But you should feel confident starting Breeze. He's 6th for Jamie. He's 7th for Heath. He's 10th for Dave. You should feel confident starting Alvin Kamara, but we have a lot of questions about Mark Ingram. Are you confident?

The one thing to keep in mind, though, with this game is apparently there's going to be some potential for rain. Okay. So if it's a downpour during the game, then you have to be a little bit worried about breeze. Yeah, they were practicing with wet balls. All right. Keep it in mind. Am I supposed to laugh at that?

Mark Ingram, start or sit? I'm starting Mark Ingram. I do think they're going to run it. This is going to be a run-heavy script for them. I don't think Tampa Bay is going to have much success stopping whatever the Saints want to do. I think they're going to want to run,heavy script for them. I don't think Tampa Bay is going to have much success stopping whatever the Saints want to do. I think they're going to want to run, so I'll start with running backs.

I know how you feel about Dalvin Cook. Solid start, but not super excited. Who do you like more, Ingram or Cook? I'd rather start Ingram. I'd start Cook. Okay. Waver wire, guys, over Ingram? Yep.

They're right in the same range. I probably just go Ingram. I probably need to adjust my rankings on that. Okay. Remember, Waver Wire guy, when I say it, means Eckler, Jackson, Samuels, Wilson. It does not include Ridley and Morris. New Orleans wide receivers, anyone other than Michael Thomas? No, thank you.

It's a great matchup, but you just don't know who it's going to be. And Dan Arnold is fun. Tampa Bay allows the fifth most fantasy points, two tight ends. You know, it's a flyer. He's 7% owned. Going to the Buccaneers, you guys like Jameis a lot. Eighth for Jamie, sixth for Heath.

Saints allow the fifth most fantasy points to quarterbacks. And he's playing well. You'd start Winston over Brady, right? Yep. Over Matt Ryan, over Trubisky, over Kirk Cousins, over Russell Wilson. Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston? I'll go Jameis. Luck, but I have him back-to-back.

Okay. And then Peyton Barber, another stat of the game. Only three running backs all year have had 16 or more carries against the Saints. Barber has had 16 or more carries in three straight games. Do you have any interest in him? He's just—maybe he falls into the end zone. That's all you're hoping for with him. I don't

think they're going to have success running the ball in this game. I would rather start almost every running back we've talked about so far. Bucs receivers are a pain in the neck. Why? Well, I think it's easy to start Mike Evans, but

you have to acknowledge that he seems to have some bad games here and there. Well, he's played now four games with Jameis that Jameis has started and finished. In two of those games, he's been nine PPR points or less. In the other two, 17 or more. Yeah. And it's funny. It's almost the same thing with the Saints.

In his last five against the Saints, two over, I think it's 22 PPR points, and three under 10. And you have to start Evans. Of course. But you have a little trepidation because you know there are a lot of mouths to feed. Do you like Humphreys or Godwin better? Than Evans? No, I'm sorry.

Comparing the two of them, Humphreys versus Godwin. I have them back-to-back in both formats, Godwin over Humphreys in non-PPR. Humphreys over Godwin in PPR. I'll take Humphreys second, Godwin third, and I'll start all three. Okay. Dave and I had an interesting debate for our Google segment on FFT yesterday of Evans versus Amari Cooper. Evans versus Cooper. Ooh.

Yeah. So Dave likes Evans better as does Google. I like Cooper better just because I think you can almost guarantee his production when he gets eight targets. You can't guarantee. My argument was I like both.

Cooper has a higher floor from what we've seen. Evans has a higher ceiling if things go right for him. Yeah, I'll take Cooper. Would you take Godwin or Humphreys? Let's say you have them ranked very similar over waiver-wire running backs. I think in non-PPR, you can make a case for...

I mean, just look what Godwin did last week. I don't think you could pencil him in for 100 in a touchdown, but that's the upside. I will take Humphreys and PPR over all of them. Godwin, I would put behind all of them, but

they're both just barely ahead of them and barely below them. I'll be starting Gobbin over Golden Tate. I'm sure that's an easy one for you guys, right? Yeah, I would do that as well. I don't have to make this decision, but I have both Edelman and Gobbin. I'm sorry, I said Gobbin. I meant Humphreys, but either way. I have

both Edelman and Humphreys, and I'll start them both, but if I had to choose, what would you do? Edelman or Adam Humphreys? I'd go with Humphreys. I'd go with Edelman. I knew you guys would. That secondary is going to be more of a disaster. Cameron Brait. Is he a must start or is he in that

Kyle Rudolph, Kratberger group? He is just above Kratberger status. Yeah, he's in a tough spot. I mean, the Saints have been awesome against tight ends. Actually, the Bucs have the highest yardage total against the Saints from their tight end, which was O.J. Howard in Week 1 at 54 yards.

I know. Crazy. And they've only allowed one touchdown. It was to Mark Andrews. There's the good tight ends, then there's Cameron Brate, then there's the Kratberger. Okay. Saints DST is top 10. They've been very good. Tampa Bay has been a tough matchup the last two weeks, but the Saints, even in that game against Dallas, they came through. Their defensive line is just playing so, so well. So they probably don't need to hire any defensive linemen in New Orleans. But if you need to hire someone for your company, there's the smart way

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Atlanta at Green Bay. I do not have a stat of the game for this, and I could not find any interesting stats about Green Bay, Wisconsin. Matt Ryan. What? Well, I found one, but I've used it before. They invented the first non-splintered toilet paper in Green Bay. Yeah, I know.

Starter set Matt Ryan. I'm starting him. I like him. I think the Falcons put up points. I think the Packers put up points. This might be the Bonanza. Oh, crap. I don't have that.

The Bonanza. So, crap. I don't have that. The bonanza. So, wait. I've been so bad the last couple weeks. This is the same shtick you've been doing for 10 years. Did I get it right last week, Steelers-Chargers? No. Yes, you did. Heath is so harsh.

Oh, I'm trying to think. Yes, you did. We went through this. Did we? I thought we decided he didn't. No, he did. We went through this. Did we? I thought we decided he didn't. No, he did. Because Roethlisberger got to 21 points in a week where he was a terrible quarterback. I don't remember even going through it.

Okay. Yes, Roethlisberger was good. Rivers was great. That was so bad, though. We got Justin Jackson saved. Justin Jackson doesn't count. He doesn't count. That's the thing.

Juju was bad. What's that? Juju was bad. Juju was bad. I don't think I got it. I don't think I got it. I don't think I got it. But King Allen was awesome. Who was?

Allen was awesome. You didn't have an idea. Antonio was awesome. Yep. Connor was awesome. Yeah. You know what? I'm going to give it to myself.

All right. I'll think about it. I'm nervous about this game. But how do you not have a bonanza? I'll get it. Give me five. No, no, no, no, no. Give me two minutes.

It should be the easiest thing you do. I didn't think about it. That's all. Now I'll think about it, that's all. Now I'll think about it. Do you think about your child? I'm going to go with Sunday Night Football. Rams and Bears, Rams and Bears. Bonanza.

I have more faith in Jared Goff than you guys do. Yes, I think about my child. Is this the first time you've ever picked a Bonanza where Jamie had both quarterbacks outside of his top 12? Possibly. That's a good point. I like it. I have more faith. All right, we got like five games to get to here.

So Atlanta, Green Bay. I'm just a little nervous because Ryan hasn't really been playing all that well. And neither has Rogers. Which quarterback do you like better? Rogers by a lot. Okay, Rodgers is a must-star for you guys this week? Yep. All right, you got faith.

Would you start Tevin Coleman? I don't want to. No. This may be an Ido Smith game. Would you start any receivers other than Julio Jones and Devontae Adams? I think Calvin Ridley is a good number three. Who? Ridley. Yep.

Ridley's got to be behind Humphreys and Goblin, I assume? Yes. I have to make a decision. Ridley or Dante Pettis? Pettis. I have them back to back. Say Pettis. I think it's Pettis. Okay. Just making it easy for you.

Thank you. I appreciate that. I actually have Ridley ranked higher. Which tight end do you like better in this game? Hooper. Graham. Hooper for Heath. Graham for Jamie. Did you guys like

either of these two? I like what Graham did last week. I put Graham in the crap burger. But again, as I said with Burton, he could have a big game. He showed us last week that he's not dead. Green Bay does allow the third through his fantasy points to tight ends. I know Heath doesn't care about that. And Jamie and Dave both have Hooper 10th.

Heath has him 7th. Aaron Jones a must start. I think we're good here. Sit the DSTs. Okay, that was kind of turbo. Denver at San Francisco. Denver has allowed 89 or more receiving yards to a wide receiver in five straight games. How about that?

So how much faith do you have in Dante Pettis? He's a low end number two. Yeah, low end number two. High end flex, high end number three. So it seems like he's just behind the two Bucs guys. Yes. Okay. All right. So you're starting Dante Pettis, and you're starting Phillip Lindsey.

Cortland Sutton or Dante Pettis? I actually have Sutton ranked higher now. Sutton. As well you should. Pettis and PPR, Sutton ranked higher now. Sutton. As well you should. Pettis in PPR, Sutton non-PPR. All right, here's the stat. There have been 17. I give the stat every week, but it's updated.

There have been 17 wide receivers with six or more targets against the Niners. 17 wide receivers, six or more targets. But all of them scored a touchdown, right? 13 of them have either 100 yards or a touchdown or both. And then, to boot, last week, there were three Seahawks wide receivers that did not have more than four targets, and they caught a touchdown. And every week, the 49ers have given up a touchdown to a wide receiver. No.

No. That's Tampa Bay. It is not San Francisco. You said San Francisco. No, I did not. Yes, you did. I hate you. Did you say Julian Edelman a little while ago?

That I did say, but I did not say. You said San Francisco. Matt Lacoste. Yeah, because you. Take a flyer out of my – Matt Lacoste or Dan Arnold? Who's a better waiver wire tight end? I would go Lacoste. I would go Lacoste also.

No Mullins, and then we did break down Jeff Wilson earlier. He needs to be involved in the passing game. He should be involved in the passing game. Where do you have Jeff Wilson in non-PPR? Where do you have him in PPR? He's right around 15 in PPR, closer to 20 in non-PPR.

I've got him right around 15 in non-PPR, right around 12 in PPR. Okay, so if you want more analysis on Jeff Wilson, right around the 20-minute mark of today's show... No, around the 17-minute mark of today's show, we started talking about those waiver-wire

running backs. Anything I'm missing here? You're not interested in Marquise Goodwin, I assume? Nope. I'll just say that I really think George Kittle should be in a lot of your dfs lineups there's enough cheap running backs that you don't have to go cheap at tight end he's a lot cheaper than travis kelsey and last i saw his projected ownership was like five percent so i am going to play a ton of george kittle and kittle versus Jalen Samuels. What would you do?

Kittle. Kittle versus Jalen Samuels? At tight end of the other side. Oh, yes. Kittle. I'm sorry. I forgot about the tight end thing for a second. And Denver's DST is top five, even without Chris Harris.

You guys are cool with that? Yep. Mullins doesn't need a good corner to pick him off. Philadelphia at Dallas. We talk about fantasy stats all the time. How about this? Dallas is second in the NFL in scoring defense behind Baltimore. And then how about this?

This surprised me. Philadelphia is actually first in time of possession. Dallas is seventh. But here's the stat of the game. This is for Golden Tate. Golden Tate has had 7-10 targets I think in three straight games. There have been nine wide receivers with 7-10 targets against Dallas. Only three of them have had more than

66 yards. Tate, Aguilar, and Julio Jones. Now some of them scored, but scoring is harder to do than the yards. Hard to predict anyway. Three out of nine had more than 66 yards with 7-10 targets. That's pretty interesting. So I will ask you this.

Are there any eagles? And that was Tate with Philly. Yes. No, no, with Detroit. Are there any eagles that you want to start this week? Zach Ertz. Yeah. We're not reminded.

Are there any eagles other than Zach Ertz that you want to start this week? No. Okay. Talk to me about Josh Adams. I don't think he's a bad flex, especially in non-PPR. I do like him more than Spencer Ware, Tevin Coleman, Chris Carson. That range of running backs. I like him more than Peyton Barber and Jordan Howard.

But he's not a top 24 guy. All the guys you named, I think, are in the same conversation. Is this the running back, Kratberger? Yes. I'm wondering how good he is because his last two games, 20 carries is great, but nobody gets that against Dallas. Most running backs that would get 20 or 22 carries against the Giants and the Redskins would probably do better

than him. He had 84, 85 yards. What's his yards per carry? It's less than 4. That's probably right around 4. Dallas gives up 3.6 yards per carry. You don't have... Is he not in your database?

I'm just looking at the last two games. His yards per carry over the last... it's 4.9 for the season. No, just the last two games, I think it's right around four. Well, he has 20 for 85. That would be over four, right? Yeah, but 22 for 84 would be under four. So I think it's four. Yeah, okay.

We'll say that. Tate or Josh Adams in PPR? Who's a better flex? Tate. Yeah, I think in PPR he probably is. Tate's not complete garbage, is he, this week? No. Okay.

He's better than Michael Gallup? Oh, yes, yes. How about Tate or Larry Fitzgerald? Fitz. Tate or Theo Riddick? Tate. Yeah. Start or sit Dak Prescott?

He's in the same conversation for me with Trubisky and Wentz and Cousins and Wilson. I would start him over Carson Wentz, but that's the only typical starter that I'm starting him over. Yeah, I think Zeke will be quite expensive, but will be in some of my DFS lineups. He should go off. Cooper should have a big game, and that is it. Dallas DST, interested at all? 55% on?

Yes. They're okay. I'm not particularly interested, but they're okay. Alright, we got Detroit at Arizona. Stat of the game. In their last six games, Arizona's been destroyed by number one're okay. All right, we got Detroit at Arizona. Stat of the game. In their last six games, Arizona's been destroyed by number one wide receivers. Thielen, Sanders, Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen, Devontae Adams. 13 or more fantasy points in non-PPR, 20 or more fantasy points in PPR.

So Kenny Galladay looks like a safe bet. We already did start-o-meter for this, so Matthew Stafford, no. Jamie, you seem to express some confidence in LeGarrette Blount. Yeah. Okay, counter to that would be that last week he had 16 carries for 61 yards against the Rams, and I think the Cardinals have a better run defense than the Rams. It's pretty similar.

But they give up a lot more touchdowns. They do. So you think that's it? give up a lot more touchdowns. They do. So you think that's it? He has a better chance to score? Yep. Alright. What else in this game? This is a pretty uneventful game. Yeah, yeah. Start David Johnson, flex Larry Fitzgerald.

Yeah. Blunt and non-PPR Riddick and PPR start Kenny Gauley would you start Larry Fitzgerald or Jarvis Landry I think I have Jarvis one spot higher Landry

and non-PPR Fitzgerald and PPR okay guess the stat line for Larry Fitzgerald and PPR. Okay. Guess the stat line for Larry Fitzgerald. Five. Go ahead. Five, 55, and half a touchdown. I'll go five for 75. Sit the DSTs.

Giants. What? Why? I thought you had them as sits no I think they're low end streamers they're outside my top 12 but they're not bad really so you're questioning me on that

you have the Cardinals 15th and where are the Lions 17th okay but they're probably sits Giants and Redskins would you start the Giants DSTs over I don't think they're fast streamers. Okay, but they're probably since. Giants at Redskins.

Would you start the Giants DSTs over Cardinals and Lions? Giants DST, ladies and gentlemen? No. No. Yeah, I'm trying to think. None of those defenses are in my top 12, I don't think. You would not start the Giants DST over? I have the Giants. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, I would start the Giants over those guys.

I would too, but I'm not benching like the Vikings for any of those three. You talk about an easy game. I mean, you're starting Barkley and you're starting Beckham. I think Ingram, Reed, and Peterson are the interesting

ones, I suppose. You want to talk about them? Reed and Ingram are in the crap burger. Peterson, I'm probably starting. Yep. I would start the way where our guy's over Peterson. Yes. But Reed, I think, I don't really see much difference, honestly,

between Colt McCoy and Mark Sanchez. So I think those I don't really see much difference, honestly, between Kobukoi and Mark Sanchez. So I think those targets will still be the same. And Ingram, I don't want any part of, to be honest with you. Yeah, Reid or who did we just talk about? It's like Jordan Reid, you'd start over Dan Arnold. I'd start him over Brait. Yeah, okay. Saints are amazing against tight ends, or they have been this year.

And I know Heath would not do that. Because you have a break eighth, I believe. Yep. All right, I'll just throw some Adrian Peterson questions at you. Adrian Peterson or Mark Ingram? Ingram. Peterson, but it's close. Maybe I'll switch that.

Adrian Peterson or Kenyon Drake? Peterson. Adrian Peterson or Sammy Watkins if he plays? Peterson. And Baldwin or Peterson? Peterson.

Yep. That's it. That's our show. Great show. Don't you have a Butterfinger to eat? Are you going to pick the Bonanza? I already did Who'd you pick? I picked Bears, Rams, where were you? Remember you said

Both quarterbacks outside the top 12 What's happening here? Alright, I'm out of here, my mind is blown We're out of here. Mailbag tomorrow. Bye, everyone. No, no, no, no, no, no.