Fantasy Football Today - 12/10 Fantasy Football Podcast: Week 14 Recap - Redemption Week

Episode Date: December 11, 2017

Reacting to Carson Wentz's injury (2:10) and more from around the NFL before we talk about Redemption Week (8:33) for Kareem Hunt, Jordan Howard and Carlos Hyde ... Winners (15:00) including DeMaryius... Thomas and Josh Gordon and losers (21:05) including Christian McCaffrey and Mike Evans ... "Does He Matter?" (27:48) with some interesting young WRs, Week 14 leaders at QB (33:35), RB (35:06), WR (37:50) and TE (39:00) and then a recap of every game with our Fantasy takes (41:00) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Coming at you on Sunday night and recapping the Sunday action for Fantasy Week 14.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Hope your playoffs are going well. If they aren't, we thank you for listening anyway. We appreciate it. Adam Azer, Heath Cummings, Jamie Eisenberg here on Sunday. And, you know, I want to be in a good mood, guys, because it was a really fun day of football. It started with a great game on Thursday, but obviously the Carson Wentz thing just kind of stinks.
Starting point is 00:00:42 What's your overall mood right now? We don't know officially as of 9, 15 p.m. Eastern. We don't know the deal. What's your overall mood, Heath Cummings, recapping Week 14? I have 170 points in one of my playoff matches. That's my overall mood. That's a lot of points. That's a lot of points.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Jamie, how are you? What's your overall mood? I'm good. I would like to see Mike Wallace back in this game tonight. Oh, did he get hurt? He limped off on the Ravens' last drive, but it looks like he's back on the field. There you go. Now you're happy.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Now you're happy. 13-07 in the second quarter. Yeah. And Alex Collins ripping off a big run. All right, there we go. Big run of six yards. We need more of that. We need a lot more of that here. Heath and I do we go. Big run of six yards. We need more of that.
Starting point is 00:01:26 We need a lot more of that here. Heath and I do anyway. So we're not going to talk about that game. We're going to talk about all the other games. And it's redemption week for some guys. If we talk about this game as it's going on, does that quiet the 2% of people that don't like us doing a podcast on Sunday night as opposed to Monday? People want us to do it on Monday? Yeah, we have a few complaints. Oh, get out of town.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Just a couple. Just a couple. Get out of town. Because us recapping the whole Sunday slate is not enough. No, come on now. The Sunday night show is much better than the Monday shows. Everybody knows that. All right, but let's start with Carson Wentz,
Starting point is 00:01:58 and then we're going to do winners and losers, other injury updates. Doug Martin, he fumbled. He lost playing time after that, so some storylines you might not be aware of will get to him today, but he may, Carson Wentz may have a torn ACL. Nick Foles replaced him. Two really good matchups
Starting point is 00:02:15 going forward at the Giants, home against Oakland. That's weeks 15 and 16, and then Dallas in week 17. Oh, man. I guess it's Alshon Jeffrey and Zach Ertz who didn't play today. Oh, it's Trey Burton. Trey Burton. Well, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I mean, he caught two touchdowns. I mean, what happens to the Eagles passing game? I thought Foles did okay, but what do you guys think? I would expect a lot of J.H.I. over the next two games. This sucks, man. Huh? This sucks, man. Huh? This sucks. I think the options in the passing game will be fine.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You do? No, they're down great. I mean, I don't think you're going to completely bench Alshon Jeffrey or whoever the tight end is. But you lose something because Carson Wentz is an MVP-caliber quarterback. Yeah, and he is right now the number one quarterback in fantasy for Fantasy Week 14, and he did that while leaving the game with a knee injury.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Just an amazing year for him, and it's just a shame. Like, gosh, the NFL needs its quarterbacks, and we just lost one of the best ones, potentially. But we don't know. We don't know. We'll wait and see. There's not much else to say about that, I suppose. Heath, do you have anything to add? No, no, I'm not. One of the believe-it-or-not polls that I put up on Twitter today was that you can't start any Eagles if Carson Wentz is out.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And only 53% said they don't believe it. Yeah, well, I kept voting for apparently the wrong thing because I kept voting on your Twitter polls that I was in the minority. I only voted on two, but it was like 10%, and that was me. No, that does not really surprise anyone, Adam. Your opinions generally fall into 10%. But you, I think, would agree with me. One of them was Dak Prescott is a must-start quarterback now. I voted yes.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Nobody else did. You agree. He is a must-start. Yeah, based on who is matchup is this week. Are people voting no? Yeah, people are voting no. Most people. Based on who his matchup is this week, for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oakland, yeah. And then the other one was, believe it or not, Kareem Hunt is now, what was it, a must-start again? Kareem Hunt is back. I said no. I'm pretty sure Kareem Hunt is back. Do you know who he plays this week? No, I don't. The Chargers at home. I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I'm not willing to say he's back yet. But I guess I've been You know what his start percentage was today? It was 90%. 90%. However, now that's actually kind of interesting. That's telling because we do have a lot of people not playing. Well, yeah, but the start percentage is going to be a little deceiving right now, right?
Starting point is 00:04:48 That's what I'm saying. I consider that low. Well, I think the people not playing left him in their lineup. Right. They just never benched him. Exactly. That's my point. He may have contributed to people missing the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:04:58 and he's technically in their lineup right now. That contributes to the star percentage. But anyway, other news and notes for you. Kelvin Benjamin left with a knee injury. Amari Cooper re-injured his ankle. Do we have any updates on Kelvin or Amari right now? No.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I would not anticipate getting anything until tomorrow. You probably plan to be without them next week. Yeah, I saw a quote from Kelvin Benjamin. He said he re-aggravated it, but the good thing was he could walk. That doesn't sound real great. Josh McCown, Nate Peterman, Tom Savage, they all left the games with injuries. Bryce Petty, Joe Webb, TJ Yates came in. And TJ Yates proved that, once again, Brock Osweiler is the only quarterback
Starting point is 00:05:39 that the Andre Hopkins could not be successful with. However, I think if you're a Robbie Anderson owner, you are really hoping that Josh McCown gets back in ASAP. We've got to talk about that snow game, by the way, too. So Doug Martin fumbled in the second quarter, did not have a touch for the duration of the game. I want to get all excited. He didn't have a touch to begin with.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I know, but he scored a touchdown. And I want to get excited about that and be like, oh, they're going to give it to Peyton Barber now. But what happened with Rex Burkhead didn't have any effect on the next week. Totally different scenario. C.J. Anderson. C.J. Anderson. Peyton Barber's their guy.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Peyton Barber's their guy. That's what we said about Devontae Booker. Peyton Barber's their guy. I hope you're right. You cannot look at anything that's happened with that team and say that Doug Martin is better than Peyton Barber right now. Oh, yeah. Completely agree.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And the Colts. All right. So how great was the – By the way, you just got your Ravens big touchdown. Yeah. How big was it? 30-something yards. Was it Chris Moore?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yep. Chris Moore with the touchdown catch. So how great was the extra point by the Colts to tie the game at the end of regulation with like a minute 60 left? The part that I liked was that they had like the – I don't know what to call them. The guys that bring the water bottles out were helping to kick the snow away. And the refs like sternly told them to stop kicking the snow off the field. I mean is there somewhere a rule that says only players can kick snow off the field? I guess. Because they're out there handing them water players can kick snow off the field? I guess.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Because they're out there handing them water bottles and kicking snow while they do it. Yeah. So the Colts, they get a two-point conversion to take the lead with a minute 16 left, which would have won them the game, given the fact that it was 8-7 at the time. But there was an offensive pass interference. So now it's 7-6.
Starting point is 00:07:21 They have to kick the extra point. They get a 10-yard penalty. Incredibly difficult conditions. Not a gimme at all, even for Adam Vinatieri. So they spend the entire play clock kicking the snow off the field. The whole freaking offense, their special teams, kicking the snow off the field. Then they call a timeout. They spend the entire timeout kicking the snow off the field.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Vinatieri makes the kick, ties the game, and they lose it over time. It was awesome. I hope everybody got a chance to see a lot of that game. Crazy snow. That's fun for once, one time. Anybody that likes to see football in that, you're crazy. You know what? If it's a Bills-Colts game, that really doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like, I'm fine with it. Agreed. Agreed. Go ahead, Jamie. No, if that was a game that mattered, that would have been terrible. Yeah. When we have 14 games going on that all look the same, I like it if one of them look like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Exactly. Yeah, this was fun. Now it's done. You know what? I'm fine with that. We can retire the snow games for the year. All right, guys. It was redemption.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You really want to see Frank Gore running 40 times? I mean, that's football. It was crazy. Well, the Dolphins play in Buffalo next week. I Frank Gore running 40 times? I mean, that's football? This is crazy. Well, the Dolphins play in Buffalo next week. I'd be okay if we get a Dolphins-Buffalo snow game. Dolphins certainly wouldn't. All right, so it's Redemption Week for Kareem Hunt, for Jordan Howard, for Carlos Hyde, and for Vernon Davis.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Kareem Hunt, Jordan Howard, Carlos Hyde, and Vernon Davis. They all did well. Hunt had 25 carries, 116 yards, and a touchdown, and three catches for 22 yards. Jordan Howard had a monster game, 23 carries, 147 yards, two touchdowns at the Bengals who were really depleted on defense. And Carlos Hyde did very well. He hasn't really caught passes in two games with Garoppolo. Three catches last week for 12 yards, no catches this week.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But 14 carries, 78 yards, and a touchdown. Heath, which running back performance, Hunt, Howard, Hyde, Triple H? Ooh, how about that? A little wrestling reference there for you. Which running back performance stood out the most to you, was most interesting for you? Oh, without a doubt, it was Jordan Howard in every single way. One, that they just completely flipped the game script that I expected,
Starting point is 00:09:29 going to Cincinnati and just whipping them. And then we saw Howard get over 20 carries again. He was running hot. That first touchdown, at first we thought it was a Tariq Cohen touchdown, but that didn't matter. He did definitely step out of bounds. He was the most oppressive, and I was the most wrong about Howard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Jamie, how about you? Talk about either Hunt or Hyde. Well, just real quick on Howard. His next two games are amazing. Tennessee and Jacksonville. No. No, that's Hyde. Detroit and Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yep. There you go. That's pretty good. Jordan Howard, if you stuck with him and he helped you advance, you're going to be very happy about that the next couple weeks. Carlos Hyde or Kareem Hunt, that's what you said? Yeah, you know what? Let's do Hunt since I think he's a hot topic.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, I think you've got to be encouraged by this. You know, the fact that Sharkandrick West came back, I guess it shouldn't be anything with West coming back. They didn't have to do any sort of chasing in this game, which I think where West would have maybe taken him off the field a little bit. But I thought the offensive line blocked well. I thought he was involved in the passing game again, which was nice to see. And like Keith said, it's a good matchup. I think the Chargers' run defense has improved lately, but that probably has more to do with the opponents than the actual performance of the defense. But getting Denzel Perryman back certainly has helped.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. But again, if Hunt has helped you advance, I have him in two leagues, both of which I'm still waiting to find out the outcome of my playoff matchups. If I advance, he's going to be in my lineup. No hesitation. How about Vernon Davis? He only had two catches, 26 yards and a touchdown, but he led the team in targets, guys. Heath, Vernon Davis is 71% owned. It was redemption week for him. I cast him aside for Cameron Brate.
Starting point is 00:11:12 My bad. What do you think about Vernon Davis? Is he back? Stupid Vernon Davis and stupid Jared Cook get these great matchups for two or three weeks in a row, and they're awful. And then they face tough matchups, and they do this. It's enough to kind of make you doubt tight end matches a little bit, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:11:34 How about this? Look at the tight end leaders this week. It was obviously no Gronk, no Kelsey. Kelsey didn't have a bad game. Graham was zero, zero. Kelsey Kelsey didn't have a bad game Graham was zero Jordan Reed didn't play It was like Eagles guys I guess what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:11:55 We knew a tight end was terrible And what we were kind of using To distinguish between them Was well who has the better matchup then They both went up against awful matchups And are going to finish amongst the top ten tight ends. The one thing about Cook, though, is the Chiefs are among the leaders in yards allowed to tight ends. They just didn't give a lot of fancy points to tight ends. So Cook did a nice job.
Starting point is 00:12:19 By the way, Le'Veon Bell just limped off the field. Yeah, he's fine. Bonanza, he's fine. You're trying to sneak this one in as the Bonanza? Nah, I can't do the Bonanza. Yeah. Too late. You owe us a Bean Boozled.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I think we determined that the bad part about the Bean Boozled was that they were extremely stale. That was contributing to the horrible taste. We have like six unopened boxes. Yeah, every time I said, you want to go get you an unopened box, he said, no, I can't take it. I can't do this. No, no, no. I really couldn't.
Starting point is 00:12:51 That sounds just like him. All right, so that's Redemption Week. I have a bold statement that I'd like to make, guys. Are you ready? Are you sitting down? Okay, good. You're sitting down. The team with the best chance to beat the Patriots in the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:13:04 in the AFC is Pittsburgh. But the team with the second best chance to beat the Patriots is the Jacksonville Jaguars. Agree or disagree? Yeah, we've been saying that for weeks. I mean, their defense is the one that can make things uncomfortable for Tom Brady. Right, okay. That was the gist of it. So not bold at all? I mean, I think if people haven't been paying attention to what Jacksonville has done defensively,
Starting point is 00:13:29 if there's any cracks in that offensive line, they're going to be in his face. And they have the secondary to cover those guys. The one matchup problems for them would be the backs, catching passes, and Gronk. Well, first off, it's Brady. It would be in Foxborough too. Yeah, right, exactly. All right, well, that's that. Now we've got to talk about SeatGeek, okay?
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Starting point is 00:15:05 Jamie's winners, Dak Prescott and Josh Gordon. Dak, now look, a lot of the production came right after the Landon Collins injury. But still, he had a great game. He scored 32 fantasy points, and he's at Oakland next week. So, Dak Prescott, you ready to buy
Starting point is 00:15:21 back in? You good to go with him? I thought he looked good last week as well. He just didn't have the big day. So when that offensive line is right and he has time, he's going to look like the Dak Prescott we've come to expect over the last, you know, whatever, how many games it's been, year plus. So against Oakland next week, yeah. I've already done my initial quarterback rankings.
Starting point is 00:15:44 He's in my top five because Oakland stinks, and he's playing really well. Great. And Josh Gordon, must-start guy against Baltimore next week? Yes, yes. Without Jimmy Smith there, if you're watching the game now, you're seeing Antonio Brown pick them apart. I think Gordon can give you at least what he gave you in the game today against the Packers, which was 69 yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:16:06 If they go back to what we saw a week ago with the double-digit targets, he had 11 targets last week. He only had six today. So Gordon's a must-start receiver the rest of the way. All right. Excellent stuff, Josh Gordon, with two very encouraging games. It's time for Heath's winners. Heath, who are you more confident in going forward?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Your Josh Gordon, Jamie's wide receiver winner, or your wide receiver winner, Demarius Thomas, who had eight catches for 93 yards and a touchdown, will be at the Colts next week. I'm probably going to rank Demarius Thomas higher next week, for sure, in PPR. I'm glad to see that Trevor Simeon was willing to target him heavily. 12 targets
Starting point is 00:16:47 in this game. I love the Josh Gordon story. I'm glad that he's doing well. He's an incredible talent. He's a better wide receiver than Demarius Thomas is. But I don't think you can expect him to catch more than half of his targets.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It's a little strange. And I love the matchup for Thomas this week against the Colts, but they're both going to be in the number two wide receiver range for me moving forward. Okay. And look, we talked about it a lot with Demarius Thomas. It was a tough decision because he had been playing so well, but every single week the Jets allow at least 70 yards to a wide receiver. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:17:23 This might be like eight weeks in a row now, something like that. I don't remember off the top of my head. But we kept coming back to that. And he was only starting. Demarius Thomas was only starting in 60% of leagues. Kareem Hunt was starting in 90% of leagues. Well, I think you look at what his numbers were with Simeon coming into the game. It was 4.8 fantasy points a game in standard leagues.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that. I mean, I think it was probably the right call, but it was at least a tough decision for me because I knew the Jets made every wide receiver look really good. It may be a decision that cost us our win in the Rejects League. Who did we start over Demarius? Goodwin. You started Marvin Jones over Demarius Thomas.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah, I'm okay with that. We also started Marquise Goodwin over him. He had 100 yards. Yeah, I'm okay with that. We also started Marquise Goodwin over him. He had 100 yards. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Sometimes you get the decision wrong, but you're okay with it. I'm okay with those. Jonathan Stewart is a winner. You had Jones ranked out of Thomas, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yes. Yeah, so you could have done the same thing. Yeah. I'll take the blame. I set the line up and told Adam he could make any changes he wanted to. Don't put that on Adam. You set the line up, but we didn't know that Stafford was playing. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I'll take the blame. Don't worry. Jonathan Stewart, though, 65% owned, three straight games with a touchdown, and he had three of them today, and he had 16 carries for 103 yards. What the heck is going on? Only two now, two games in his last nine with more than 48 rushing yards. You know he doesn't catch the ball. But he had an amazing game against one of the best run defenses what is going on here and it really translates to your loser
Starting point is 00:18:48 christian mcafree one of your two losers so talk about this backfield this was the third straight game where stewart mccatt the two the two previous games to this in non-ppr stewart mcafree were basically exactly the same and there's just no comparison in the running game. Jonathan Stewart is their running back. Christian McCaffrey is their change of pace back. And maybe most importantly, we're seeing Jonathan Stewart get the goal line work, and it doesn't even seem like Cam Newton is that interested in a lot of that. I know, but he's so touchdown dependent typically anyway, not today.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Right. No, I think he's mostly going to be touchdown dependent, but they get – if Aaron Rodgers plays this week, it's going to be a little more difficult situation, but it's still a bad defense. Yeah, it is. Next week at home. Yep. All right, so he's a winner.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So are you losing faith in McCaffrey? We knew this was a bad matchup for him because the Vikings, in addition to being a good run defense against everybody but Jonathan Stewart, they're also very good against pass-catching running backs. But we'll transition to our losers now. Christian McCaffrey is one of your losers. Are you starting to lose faith in him as he will face Green Bay next week? Fortunately for him, the Packers are not good against pass-catching running backs.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So I'm still going to start Christian McCaffrey in a PPR league next week. I'm going to have a really hard time in non-PPR. All right. McCaffrey had eight carries for 35 yards and three catches for 18 yards. That's four games in a row with 11 touches or less. Yeah. He also is a little touchdown dependent. But I guess it's just like there's only three guys that are scoring on that team, right?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Funchess and the running backs. So they have good chances to score, I guess. I'm trying to put a positive spin on it. All right. Well, we'll talk about McCaffrey more during the week. He'll be an interesting start or sit dilemma. Let me give you a couple bonus winners. And I just wanted to know if you guys think that these are the clear number
Starting point is 00:20:43 one guys in their respective backfields. Jay Ajayi and C.J. Anderson. Yes. Yes. And are you interested in starting them? Ajayi, yes, next week for sure. And probably the same thing with Anderson as a flex. He's just not very good.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Right. Yeah, I'll start them both. Okay. All right, so to the losers. We started with Anderson as a flex. He's just not very good. Right. Yeah, I'll start on both. Okay. All right, so to the losers, we started with Christian McCaffrey. Heath, your other loser this week is Mike Evans. Oh, man, he's killing people right now. He's just not getting it done. Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, it's terrifying, to be honest. If you advanced with Mike Evans this week, looking at your semifinal matchup and looking at not just his production the last couple of weeks, because we've said it with guys like Julio, they have a couple of bad weeks, they have a bad month, you're still starting Julio Jones. He had five targets this week. He wasn't that involved last week. Jameis is really spreading the ball around.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Unfortunately, he's also spreading the ball around to the other team on a pretty regular basis. But he's not just force-feeding the ball to Mike Evans. I guess you're hoping for a squeaky wheel. We're going to have to hear Evans complain about it first. Can we do it on his behalf? Does that work? I don't think that works. I think a coach or the player has to do it.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And I have not done my week 15 rankings yet. I'm concerned with how low I'm probably going to have Mike Evans. I'm going to have to choose Mike Evans next week or Marquise Lee in standard scoring. I don't know. I might go with Marquise Lee. Marquise Lee didn't have a great game today, but he's a safe 6-7 points. Mike Evans is not that. And he has the Texans.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Right. Lee has the Texans next week, and Evans has the Falcons. And that's not nearly as good of a matchup. All right. It's tough there. All right. Jamie's losers. On to Jamie's losers.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Andy Dalton. Man, my FanDuel lineup was – I nailed pretty much everything except my Bengals stack. Dalton beat Geo was good. A.J. Green and the Bengals defense. They played horribly. This was a really bad game for them, losing in embarrassing fashion at home. And Dalton scored nine fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:22:54 He was playing so well. What do you think about Dalton, Jamie? 77% owned, 28% started. Can't start him next week. Got to go to Minnesota. So that's why it's a double loser because he played awful. And if you only have Andy Dalton on your roster, Nick Foles is probably going to be a better option for you next week.
Starting point is 00:23:14 So I don't know what happened. He was six straight games on interception. The one interception he threw, I don't remember how he finished with. But I know – so just the one. The one interception wasn threw, I don't remember how he finished with, but I know, so just the one, the one interception wasn't his fault, but he just, the whole team just looked awful, and you know, you have to figure the defensive side of things, the injuries caught up to them, not having Burfecht, not having Jones, so that was tough, and then it carried over to the offensive side, because they just got blitzkrieg by the Bears rushing attack and
Starting point is 00:23:43 never recovered. Good game for Geo, though. At least we got Geo. And another loser for you, Lamar Miller. So this is actually unbelievable. Like this has to be – it's not a record, but this has to be a statistical quirk. I can't imagine that seven games in a row with between 51 and 61 rushing yards. How do you pull that off?
Starting point is 00:24:04 Nobody's ever done that. I'm just going to go ahead and say it. The Azers Sports Bureau. He's the first player to ever, seven games in a row, have 51 to 61 rushing yards in every game. Yeah, are you concerned? This was a bad game for him. It should have been a good game for him against the Niners, who all of a sudden are doing pretty well against running backs. Well, I think that's part of it, is maybe we've got to start giving the 49ers credit.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Because it's four games in a row now where they've shut down the opposing running back. And after what Jordan Howard just did against the Bengals, they made him look silly last week. And they made Lamar Miller look silly today. And so, if you're looking at it from the Titans guys, which we can't really tell you which one's the better one anyway. Derrick Henry has the better fantasy production, but he's not getting the more touches. So that's what they play next week in San Francisco. But for Lamar Miller, again, same situation. Bad game today, Jacksonville next week, done.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Cannot trust Lamar Miller in your fantasy semifinals. Guys, I know I'm going to forget about it. What did you make of the Vikings' backfield? Did Jarek McKinnon usurp Latavius Murray today? Always about score with them. Oh, they were trailing? They were trailing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:06 All right, fair enough. All right, those are our winners and losers for Fantasy Week 14. Let's read an email from Daniel. For the longest time, I thought you guys razzed Acer for no good reason. Then I listened last week and heard Adam twice punk out. You got that word wrong, by the way. Is it raised? It's raised.
Starting point is 00:25:23 But razz is something, too, like razzing someone. Yeah, but I saw this email, and you read it wrong. I thought it was a typo. Well, I think it was a typo. Yeah, they raz me. They don't raise me. If we raised you, you would no longer exist, right? I don't know what R-A-Z-E means, I admit, even though most of those letters are in my last name.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Completely destroyed. You could be that. He could have meant that. I gave the email a benefit of the doubt. I think that's what he meant. Okay, even though you raised me for no good reason. I heard Adam twice punk out of paying up on the challenge he proposed. Oh, Alex Collins is a beast.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yeah! Oh, yes! Let's go, Alex Collins. He dominated that drive. He completely dominated that drive. Let's go, Alex Collins. He dominated that drive. He completely dominated that drive. He's really good. Sorry, Seahawks. Dave, Jamie, and Heath held up their end of the bargain. Adam did not. Until this is made right and the host swallows a bad bean,
Starting point is 00:26:16 listeners will not let this lack of manliness lie. I'll try. I'll try non-stale re-boozled. I'll try. Do you have any in your house? No, I don't. I'll get some. I'll order some-stale Bean Boozled. I'll try. Do you have any in your house? No, I don't. I'll get some. I'll order some tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:26:28 You owe us about three. The two that you were supposed to eat while you were here and the one for not picking the bonanza this week. Do you have any idea how disgusting those two were? Yeah, I ate a bunch of them. You're a freak. I don't know what to tell you. Some news and notes. Bobby Wagner, Seahawks linebacker, hamstring injury.
Starting point is 00:26:44 He left Sunday's game. Minnesota started the game without two starting offensive linemen. Now, they had been playing without their right tackle for a while, five straight games, but they were missing their starting center. And then their left tackle also left with an injury. So Minnesota's offensive line depleted right now. Tennessee left tackle Taylor LeJuan left in the first half with a back injury. He's a great player. Rams left tackle Andrew Whitworth left, but he did come back. Landon Collins left with an ankle injury and was apparently in a walking boot.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So, you know, honestly, Nick Foles might be okay next week against the Giants without Landon Collins. Tampa Bay defensive tackle Gerald McCoy left with an arm injury. Rams cornerback Kayvon Webster got hurt in the first quarter. Green Bay cornerback Devon House was carted off the field with a back injury. Bucs, oh, I already read that one about Gerald McCoy. So Russell Wilson, your last note, he set a record with his, I don't know how many, he threw a touchdown in the fourth quarter. That was his 16th fourth quarter touchdown pass of the season. That set a record.
Starting point is 00:27:42 He may have thrown another one, but he's got three games left. He's already set a single season record for most fourth quarter touchdown passes. Let's play a game called Does He Matter? Bringing it back. Does he matter? Giants running back Wayne Gallman. 12 carries for 59 yards, seven catches for 40 yards. He seeded some goal line work to Orleans Darkwell, but he did get them down to the one. Does Wayne Gallman matter? For seasonal leagues, no. For Dynasty and Keeper leagues, yes. Agreed. It would have to be a very
Starting point is 00:28:16 deep seasonal league. We play in leagues where Wayne Gallman matters, but it's not anywhere close to a standard 12-team league. You're not playing him or picking him up in Week 15. Okay. Well, certainly against the Eagles, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Cleveland wide receiver Corey Coleman, five catches, 62 yards, and a touchdown. He had no catches on four targets last week at the Clippers, at the Chargers. Wow, that was LAC at the Clippers. Corey Coleman, does he matter? Heath? I think he matters a little bit. One of the things I was interested in coming into this week was when they threw the ball so much to Josh Gordon last week,
Starting point is 00:28:58 was it just because it was his first game back? Because remember, Coleman's first game back, he had 11 targets. Gordon's first game back, they just 11 targets. Gordon's first game back, they just fed him and just completely ignored Corey Coleman. This week, they were a little bit more balanced. I think Coleman's a talented wide receiver. I believe he matters. I don't want to start him this week,
Starting point is 00:29:16 though. He's got Baltimore coming up. First off, Adam, if you recall, for everybody that follows all of our platforms, on our video show on Friday, which you were kind enough to join us in for a lot to know for, we did a daily lineup for one of our colleagues, Mike Kaiser, who did a Browns stack of Sean Kaiser.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And Corey Coleman. And Todd Gurley. And DeAndre Hopkins. And Carlos Hyde. Please don't say what you're going to say about Corey Coleman. That I, like, ripped him for having Corey Coleman in his lineup.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I was like, get him out of your lineup. Not only did you rip him, the man just got out of the hospital, and you ripped him. But I just thought that was kind of cool. So, again, if you follow us on all of our platforms, that lineup did very well. I don't know exactly how much money he made, but he had a nice Sunday. Anyway, I don't think, again, it's one of those situations where if you're in a three-receiver league, you may consider Corey Coleman,
Starting point is 00:30:15 but it's still a good defense that Baltimore has. This is a different game from the Steelers than you'll see from the Browns, clearly, against Baltimore. I think this next guy matters. And thankfully Le'Veon Bell is back in the game. This next guy matters, D.D. Westbrook. D.D. Westbrook has three straight games with nine or ten targets and five or six catches, and he faces the Texans next week.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I mean, he's not the number one receiver, but, man, he's getting a lot of targets. Jamie, does D.D. Westbrook matter? He's 37% owned. Absolutely. And I think he matters getting a lot of targets. Jamie, does D.D. Westbrook matter? He's 37% owned. Absolutely. And I think this matters for – he matters for a few reasons, for a few different formats. He matters in seasonal because if you are stuck at wide receiver and, let's say, you don't want to start the Eagles guys because you're nervous or you're dealing with deeper league, you started Kelvin Benjamin or whoever, Juju Smith-Schuster being out, whatever the case may be, you started Kelvin Benjamin or whoever, Juju Smith-Schuster
Starting point is 00:31:05 being out. Whatever the case may be, you needed a receiver. He could have a Marquise Goodwin type of game. I would expect that to be Marquise Lee, but deep receiver against this Texan secondary can have a big game. But I think also this has implications for a couple things
Starting point is 00:31:21 for keeper leagues and dynasty because Allen Robinson is technically a free agent after this year. And so if they bring back Robinson, this is a very good three receiver, four receivers because Allen Hearns is still part of this. So you have Robinson, Lee, Hearns, and D.D. Westbrook. And then if they don't bring back Robinson, D.D. Westbrook could be a potential star next year for Eli Manning. I mean, for Blake Bortles.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Blake Bortles is playing really well. I think Blake Bortles is somebody that if you need a quarterback, you've got to look at him. Yeah, we've been saying that. He was a great stash guy because he's got two good matchups in a row. Well, give yourself credit. You've been saying it. I think we've all kind of been like, yeah, okay. I mean, I still think he's more likely to be 17 or 18 fantasy points than what he's done,
Starting point is 00:32:05 than what Bortles has done the last two weeks. It's three games in a row. It's two or three in a row. It's two or three in a row. Three in a row over 20. Hey, good for him, man. And, yeah, Ben Flannery, Fournette. So you don't have to always listen to me.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Chicago wide receiver Kendall Wright. Did you play Fournette or Lewis? I played Lewis. I won anyway, but I played Lewis over Fournette. That's risky with the illness. I saw that, but he's an illness. He'll play. Heath, Kendall Wright, 10 catches for 107 yards on 11 targets.
Starting point is 00:32:34 At Detroit next week, Bears receiver Kendall Wright, does he matter? I am not going to fall into this trap again. I've fallen down the Kendall Wright trap too many times in my life. I will not go down it again. No, Kendall Wright does not matter. All right, I'll throw the next one at you then, too. Tampa Bay wide receiver Chris Godwin led the team in receiving five catches, 68 yards. Chris Godwin, does he matter?
Starting point is 00:32:56 Godwin, I think, is probably owning all Dynasty Leagues because he was drafted as a rookie in a keeper league. He's somebody to keep an eye on. Jameis is moving the ball around too much right now for anyone other than Mike Evans to matter, and I'm not sure how much Mike Evans is going to matter this week. Give yourself credit on that one too, Adam. You said it before the season. I know we talked about this. You didn't
Starting point is 00:33:16 downgrade Mike Evans to a point where you told people not to draft him, or you told people not to take him in the first couple rounds, but you said, could be a potential bust, could be this year's DeAndre Hopkins. And that's what's happened. Yeah. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:27 This is a Praise Adam show. I know. Can we go back to the email where the guy's busting on you for not eating bean boozles? From raising to praising. Gotta love it. All right. Week 14 leaders. Your top five quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Let's go to Heath on this one. Carson Wentz. Dak Prescott. Brett Hundley, Russell Wilson, and Phillip Rivers. Wilson had a really interesting game because he was terrible for a while, and then he just started throwing bombs and completing them. It was fun. But it's Wentz, Prescott, Brett Hunley, Russell Wilson, and Phillip Rivers. Which one of these is not like the other, Heath? Well, the interesting thing about the Russell Wilson, and Phillip Rivers. Which one of these is not like the other, Heath? Well, the interesting thing about the Russell Wilson game is when he was terrible,
Starting point is 00:34:10 he was just throwing bombs too. His interceptions were just punts basically. He just decided he was going to play 500 and see how many of his wide receivers caught. And you know what? We don't have to talk about Hundley. We don't have to talk about Hundley because Rodgers will be back. So who else do you want to talk about? Wentz, Prescott. Which of these is not like the other?
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's Wentz. He's hurt. I guess so. That's true. You know what? It's a pretty standard list. Number six is Case Keenum. 23 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He's the number six quarterback right now. Roethlisberger could surpass him. Brady has obviously a great chance. But he's going to be top eight or nine at the worst. Jamie, Case Keenum does it again. Well, he did it from a fantasy perspective. He didn't do it necessarily from an on-the-field perspective. You just have to wonder if this is the reason that Mike Zimmer uses to bench him.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I doubt it, but you just have to keep that in mind. If he doesn't, I love him next week. Bengals in Minnesota? He has a chance for a big, big day. Okay. Top five running backs, Jamie, in standard scoring are Jonathan Stewart, Rod Smith, who you started in a two-quarterback league. Well done.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Jordan Howard, Todd Gurley, and Jamal Williams. And just behind that is LaShawn McCoy and I think Theo Riddick we should talk about as well. How about Theo Riddick, by the way, with 64 receiving yards? Did we say it? I mean, the Buccaneers are terrible against any running back who's good at catching passes. Well, do the Falcons have anybody that does that or that they'll use? I don't know the answer to that.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It should be yes, but I don't know. Anyway, Stuart. I think the one to talk about is Jamal Williams first off because we had the question about who's going to be the guy but I don't know. Anyway, Stuart. I think they want to talk about Jamal Williams first off. We had the question about who's going to be the guy. He's the guy. Aaron Jones had four carries for minus two yards. So if they go back to Aaron Jones at this point, that would just be the most ridiculous thing that I've seen in a while.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So he's playing very well fantasy-wise. But, yeah, I think with the Riddick, the story out of Detroit was they benched Amir Abdullah. Yeah. This wasn't an injury situation. They benched him. And so I don't know if they're going to go back to him. Why would they? No.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Now, Tian Green did nothing. Right. Riddick had 10 carries for 29 yards and 2 touchdowns, but he had 6 for 64. I think the Lions, if they're going to go down, and they still have a chance to make the playoffs because they're 7-6
Starting point is 00:36:35 with a very favorable schedule down the stretch. If they're going to go down and Jim Caldwell's going to go down, he's going down with the ball in Matthew Stafford's hand. Thankfully, he was healthy. He didn't have a great day. But thankfully he played. He got you a great game from Gold Tate. He got you a great game from Theoretic.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And Marvin Jones was okay. He just didn't score a touchdown. Stafford, look, he completed 36 of 44 passes for 381 yards. But he was set up for a big day, but one touchdown, two interceptions. Hey, one quick thing on Jamal Williams. If Rodgers comes back, because this is four out of five games where Williams got 15 or more carries and didn't really do much with the carries, like yards per carry were terrible. If Rodgers comes back, maybe he's not as involved in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Because Jordy Nelson's doing nothing right now. That's probably going to change. Williams is making most of his hay in the passing game lately. And it sounds weird to say this, because he scored two touchdowns today, but you would think this offense is going to score more touchdowns when Rodgers comes back as well. So maybe that gives him a little... The problem might be
Starting point is 00:37:36 Aaron Rodgers likes throwing touchdown passes, and he gets inside the five-yard line, and a lot of times his radar goes straight to Jordy Nelson. You're still going to start Jamal Williams. I think the other thing is they've got tough matchups, though, next two weeks. Carolina, Minnesota, back in.
Starting point is 00:37:52 All right, Heath, let's go to the top five wide receivers in standard scoring leagues. They are DeAndre Hopkins, 149 yards and two touchdowns. Devontae Adams, Tyrell Williams. He should have been in Does He Matter. Does he matter, Heath?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Tyrell Williams? I don't really think so, no. I'll skip Michael Thomas and go to Cooper Cup, and then Adam Thielen and Tyler Lockett are tied with 16 fantasy points. Those are your standard scoring leaders. You would see Demarius Thomas and Golden Tate ahead of some of them in PPR, but it's Hopkins, Adams, Tyrell Williams, Michael Thomas, Cooper Cup, and Adam Thielen, Heath.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, I guess I got a little bit too low on Cooper Cup this week, worried about matchup, and I'm not sure that it matters. He's getting peppered with targets. Made a really nice play after the catch today. Okay. But Robert Woods comes back next week. Yeah, that's interesting. I was thinking about that. Like, does Robert Woods get, you know, Stefan Diggs, where he just, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:51 golf is in a groove. We'll see. Who knows? Golf is in a groove right now, and maybe he favors Cup a little bit more than he did before when Woods was healthy. All right, anyway, so this is what I was talking about earlier. Here are your top five tight ends for Week 14. Trey Burton, Jared Cook, Garrett Selick, Hunter Henry, Adam Shaheen,
Starting point is 00:39:13 and Kyle Rudolph tied for fifth with Adam Shaheen. Trey Burton, Jared Cook, Garrett Selick, Hunter Henry, Adam Shaheen, and Kyle Rudolph. Followed by O.J. Howard, Jason Witten, Rhett Ellison, Vernon Davis. And then you get to Travis Kelsey, who's tied with Eric Ebron. Jamie, it was just a backwards, upside-down, inside-out day for tight ends. Injured day, too. Kelsey could have had two touchdowns. He had the one where he came down at the half-inch line,
Starting point is 00:39:39 and the one they dropped. He had one called back by penalty. Oh, he did? Yep. Look at that, three? Yeah, because Alex Smith had like four touchdown passes he threw today. And it ended up with zero. So, Travis, almost a Farrion Jenkins. I think, you know, the games that are encouraging, the Kelsey game was encouraging.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But encouraging on one hand, disappointing on the other because of the score. The Ebron game, Eric Ebron, 10 for 94. You know, I don't know if you can count on that moving forward, but nice to see. I hope Carson Wentz is okay because Zach Ertz, Trey Burton, there is no better handcuff maybe in fantasy football. Should have done the friendship strategy with them. Yeah, I know. I mean, the two games
Starting point is 00:40:25 that the two games that zachary's missed this is the first time i've spoken about this on the on the podcast people don't know this about me but i'm actually a new york giants fan and i i would say i i really i mean i i hate that one too what the cold weather with evangram? I don't know if that was the thing. Yeah, 4 for 54 for Ingram. I love Carson Wentz. I don't like the Eagles, but I love Carson Wentz. I really want to see him play. I just – I really – this sucks. I hope he's not hurt.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I hope it's not serious. So there are your leaders for Fantasy Week 14. I think it's time now to go to the games. All right. Sure. why not? Dallas 30, Giants 10. And this was actually a pretty close game until the last few minutes. In fact, we didn't talk about this,
Starting point is 00:41:14 but Rod Smith being the number two running back in standard this week, it's pretty deceiving. He got out-carried by Morris 19-6, although Morris didn't really do much. And then Rod Smith just sort of demoralized the Giants with a long touchdown catch and then a touchdown run. Anything on – and Dez Bryant was being covered by a guy that I had never heard of. Giants starting quarterback for the last two weeks, never heard of him. Yeah, Heath, anything for the Giants? Like Sterling Shepard and Evan Ingram.
Starting point is 00:41:43 This should have been a great matchup for them. Shepard was facing a team that gave up the most touchdowns to wide receivers. He had two catches for 16 yards. Can you trust these guys going forward? They have the Eagles next week. Heath? Yeah, I don't think you're going to feel very good about it. And I can't imagine wherever they're playing that game with the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:42:00 it's going to be very warm. So Evan Ingram isn't going to like it very much. And I think when you said covered on Des Bryant, you should have used air quotes because he had a pretty nice game, three catches, 73 yards, and a touchdown, and it should have been so much better. Yeah, he dropped potentially another touchdown. He dropped the ball at the five.
Starting point is 00:42:17 He may have been able to walk in. Des has had some drops. Yeah. All right, so that's that game. Chicago 33, Cincinnati 7. Bears just dominated. They had the ball for more than 38 minutes. What's the storyline here?
Starting point is 00:42:33 I mean, Geo would be probably pretty trustworthy if Mixon stays out. Jamie, am I missing anything from this game that we haven't talked about? From the Bengals-Bears? Yeah, I don't think so. Brandon LaFell? Any interest in LaFell? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Jamie, let's go to San Francisco 26, Houston 16. You know, Garoppolo scored... I know you were pretty high on Garoppolo. Were you okay with 17 fantasy points? No, I expected more, but he passes the eyeball test. I mean, if you watched him the last two games, he looks legit. And I think when they get more weapons around him and he's more comfortable in the system,
Starting point is 00:43:11 he has the potential to be a number one fantasy quarterback next year. Marquise Goodwin, is he a must-start guy facing Tennessee next week? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. The first drive of the game, he had a drop on almost essentially the same play. Not Selick's touchdown, but Selick had. They were running these crossing routes all day long. Or skinny posts, however you want to define it.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Marquise Goodwin had one where the throw was a little bit behind him. If he catches it, there's nobody close on Houston that's catching him. So it would have set them up for such a big day. But I thought the offense looked really good. I mean, Hyde played well. Goodwin played well. They got tight end production, you know, for what that's worth. The one letdown, if there is one, I don't know if people were starting Trent Taylor,
Starting point is 00:44:01 but, you know, coming off that game last week where he had the six catches, the fact that he did nothing, two for 11 on three targets, was a little frustrating. Yeah. You know, who didn't have tight end production were the Texans, Stephen Anderson. I think we should – let's talk about Anderson and Ricky Seals-Jones. They were both total duds this week. Yeah, and Anderson, we cooled on him just a little bit when we found out that Will Fuller was coming back. And he did only get the six targets in this game, and he is Steven Anderson.
Starting point is 00:44:27 This is the type of thing that can't happen with that. The San Francisco 49ers have been hot and cold with tight ends this year, but I really kind of feel like there's a lot of their defense that's starting to come around just a little bit. Their linebacker's core is playing a lot better right now than they have for most of the year. Ricky Seals-Jones had a couple of opportunities. Blake Bortles missed him once. They had a miscommunication once.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And it seemed like after that, there was more Jermaine Gresham and less Ricky Seals-Jones. Heath is so desperate to criticize Blake Bortles now that he's playing well that he just substituted Blaine Gabbert for Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles and Blaine Gabbert will always be basically the same guy. That's awesome. All right, next game, next game. Heath, Detroit 24, Tampa Bay 21. All right, what's an angle here that we have not explored?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Marvin Jones disappointed us. Only four targets, three catches for 64 yards, and then Golden Tate had the big game. Marvin Jones disappointed us. Only four targets, three catches for 64 yards, and then Golden Tate had the big game. Two straight games with eight catches, but today he had 85 yards and a touchdown. So your thoughts on the Lions wide receivers? It's a little bit frustrating.
Starting point is 00:45:39 It kind of feels a little bit like what Stephon Diggs and Adam Thielen were before it became clear that Adam Thielen was just the guy. But I think in most cases, if not all cases, you're just starting Marvin Jones and Golden Tate most weeks. But you think that Jones is still the guy you're going to rank higher, right? I would guess that I will rank Golden Tate higher in PPR. Yeah. All right. Dave brought up an interesting thing the last time that the Lions played the Bears
Starting point is 00:46:03 about Vic Fangio and what he's done to Golden Tate, and it did work out exactly as Dave expected, that Tate struggled against Chicago. Oh, that's right, yeah. So just keep that in mind. I'm just looking right now at the game logs. Marvin Jones had four catches, 85 yards, and a touchdown, and seven targets against the Bears. Yeah, and Tate had a really oddly bad game.
Starting point is 00:46:27 All right, so again, I mentioned earlier at the top of the show, Doug Martin fumbled and did not have a touch after that. That was in the second quarter. And this again, did he? Oh, no, he didn't even get to 13 carries. But Peyton Barber did. No, he didn't. He had 12.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Okay, so we can keep citing the 13-carry stat against the Vikings. The Lions lions excuse me uh any team that gets 13 carries against the lions any player gets 13 carries usually does well so cameron bray or oj harrod who's the best guy to own there i wonder if dave dave asked us you know during the day uh did break get hurt at some point and i don't i don't see anything reported on that. They actually talked about that during the game, that he was acting a little bit funny with his chest.
Starting point is 00:47:12 But I've not seen anything reported about it either. But during the broadcast of that game, there was actually some mention about how he was kind of favoring his chest. Yeah, so maybe he took a shot and it wasn't the same. I think we talked about this prior to James coming back, that has there been a changing of the guard, that they're just starting to feature O.J. Howard a little bit more in the passing game? And last week could have been a byproduct of the two offensive line injuries, and O.J. Howard is a better blocker than Cameron Wright.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And they didn't really need to use that this week against Detroit because the pass rush wasn't the same. All right, our next game is Carolina 31 and Minnesota 24. We've talked about Case Keenum. We've talked about the Vikings running backs. Jamie's saying that McKinnon was featured because they fell behind. Adam Thielen. Latavius Murray should go off next week after what Jordan Howard did.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I hope so. Adam Thielen is outstanding. He's just a great player. And Kyle Rudolph does not seem to be matchup dependent at all. You just never know what he's going to score. But he's now scored four touchdowns in his last three games. Yep, three games in a row. What do you think, Jamie, about Cam Newton?
Starting point is 00:48:15 He was started in 54% of leagues, which made sense. And he only scored 16 fantasy points, and that included a 62-yard run. Are you going to start him up next week against the Packers? Yes. And to be honest, I did do a little pause when I was doing my quarterback rankings this afternoon that, will he
Starting point is 00:48:36 be better than Rodgers in the first game back for Aaron Rodgers next week? So I didn't rank it that way, but it would not surprise me, because Green Bay's defense isn't good. I mean, Jameis played well against them. Kaiser played well against them. It'll be back-to-back road games for them. And Devon House got hurt
Starting point is 00:48:52 today. He surprisingly played one of their cornerbacks, and he left the game with an injury. I mean, just Cam hasn't played great. He had the big game against the Dolphins, but that's not a surprise. He had the comeback effort, or the garbage time, however you want to describe it, against the Saints last week. And so this was a tough game for him.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So I think you're still starting him. I have to make a decision, Cam versus Garoppolo next week. I'm going to start Cam, but Garoppolo is a good matchup against the Titans. And Cam versus Rodgers in one league, and I'm going to start Rodgers. But I think Cam is still worth starting next week. Heath, Devin Funchess, fluky touchdown. Three catches, 59 yards and a touchdown. Anything to say about him?
Starting point is 00:49:36 If you started Devin Funchess today, you got lucky, and congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. You're welcome. I did get lucky. I started him into Marius. I had no other options, and sometimes you just get lucky in fantasy. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:48 That's how it works. Greg Olson, ready to drop him? For who? I don't know. He's my second tight end on a team. I'm not worried about Greg Olson being picked up by another team and used against me anymore. If Zach Ertz is out, I will drop him for
Starting point is 00:50:10 Trey Burton if I need to. Even with Foles? Even with Foles. It's the Giants. I would agree with that, yes. Kansas City 26 and Oakland 15. So Heath, do you think Alex Smith had a better game than the numbers would indicate? He only scored 10 fantasy points.
Starting point is 00:50:26 He absolutely had a better game than the numbers would indicate. He had 251 passing yards through two and a half quarters and four almost touchdowns. So he should have had a touchdown or two. It was a very frustrating day as an Alex Smith owner.
Starting point is 00:50:42 But I think it's more important that we update our Derek Carr stats because I asked Jamie before kickoff, I said, this game is going to warm up during the game to above 50 degrees, but it's going to be 48 degrees at kickoff. So are we counting this as a Derek Carr game below 50 degrees? Yes. We decided that we were, and he was awful again.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Yeah. Yeah, he's having a bad year. And you know who I feel like hasn't been relevant in, like, a month and a half is Michael Crabtree. Like, when he's played, he hasn't been that good lately. Or he's gotten kicked out and then suspended. Well, I mean, he basically was taken off the field for two games. Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 00:51:22 But even, like, the last, like last three games that I think he's played, Crabtree hasn't been that good. And you know he needs to catch touchdowns. He's never a huge yards guy. But if he scored a touchdown today, he would have been fine. That's kind of a big if. I mean, most players would have been fine if they scored a touchdown today. Okay, but he got seven catches for 60 yards and was targeted 13 times.
Starting point is 00:51:41 But he didn't score a touchdown. Their offense is not that good. It's taking a major step back. I know this is a bad game script for the Raiders, and they fell behind early in this game, but what in the hell are you doing running the ball seven times with Marshawn Lynch when he's having that much success and he's been that good over the last two weeks? Lucky he's still got fantasy owners that touchdown.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Green Bay 27, Cleveland 21. Is Deshaun Kizer a thing? Does he matter? 22 fantasy points for him, and he has the Ravens next week. Not with that matchup. If he was playing somebody else. He's got weapons now. I think whoever they get to be their quarterback next year could be very good.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yeah. Let's just say they pull off. The narrative right now is that they'll make a play for Alex Smith if Mahomes is a starter because of Dorsey, the new GM. He's the one that traded for Alex Smith the last time. So that's something to keep an eye on. If they go get Kirk Cousins, something to keep an eye on. If maybe, I doubt you see Eli Manning there, but a veteran guy that ends up there, something to keep an eye on. Or if they end up drafting a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:52:48 But think about the guys that they have. And this offensive line will still be good next year when they get Joe Thomas back. I feel like we said the same exact thing last year. Not about the quarterback. You said it about Crowell. No, last year we were like, well, they got some weapons on this team. They got Hugh Jackson. They're going to be good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And I was like, we're going, we're way too high on Cleveland. No, no, no. It was the run game. It was not the passing game because they didn't have a quarterback. Yeah. All right. Let's move on. Let's move on from that game. Buffalo... You can't look at Gordon Coleman,
Starting point is 00:53:20 Njoku, Duke Johnson and say it's bad. That's great. They had another first round draft pick wide receiver that they just cut, Kenny Britt. Buffalo 13 and Indianapolis 7. And
Starting point is 00:53:33 this game just didn't make sense. I mean, there are not many fantasy takeaways from this game. But it was nice to see the Sean McCoy get 32 carries for 156 yards and a touchdown. I honestly think we can skip this game. You cool with that? All right, good.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Thank you. Sure. Denver 23 and the Jets 0. Heath Cummings. All right, what do you think about C.J. Anderson? He got 22 carries for only 48 yards, and next week he will be at Indianapolis. Much better matchup next week. You talked about it last week, how the the jets have really been better against the run um it back-to-back weeks now it's pretty clear cj anderson is the
Starting point is 00:54:12 feature back in denver the question now is can the defense play like that a second week in a row putting them in a positive game script so he can get that type of work because if he gets that type of work against the colts he he's going to have 100 yards. And Jermaine Curse, Robbie Anderson, they could easily bounce back at New Orleans, but it's going to be dependent on Josh McCown's availability. He got you negative three points. That was a tough one.
Starting point is 00:54:38 McCown was started in 20% of CB. Oh, no, his hand's broken. It's broken? Yeah, the Jets, Todd Bowles said that. So his hand's broken. Okay. So you're probably looking at Bryce Petty. I'm dropping Robbie Anderson. I don't disagree. Wasn't it
Starting point is 00:54:49 last year that Bryce Petty and Robbie Anderson was a thing? Isn't that when Robbie Anderson first became a thing when Bryce Petty started? Yeah. I think you've got to look at what... With Bryce Petty in New Orleans against Lattimore and Crawley? No, it's a good point, Heath. You don't have to drop that.
Starting point is 00:55:05 That's probably extreme. I forgot about that. You're not starting. Yeah. All right. Now, thank you for bringing that up. Arizona 12 and Tennessee 7. Okay, so we already talked about the running backs for the Titans.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's just tough. I think everybody just wants them to turn it over to Derrick Henry, but it's not really happening. So, Kerwin Williams. I mean, if he gets another chance, 20 carries, I'm just going to assume Peterson's back next week. I'm just trying to find storylines. Don't assume that. Don't assume that?
Starting point is 00:55:33 No, I'm not sure Peterson's back at all. All right, fine. Yeah, he may be done. Kerwin Williams is 15% on, guys. He had 88 total yards. He's going to be one of the more sought-after running backs this week, especially, you know, whatever the injuries we're dealing with and poor matchups next week.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Dude, what the heck is wrong with Marcus Mariota? I got to say, the Cardinals defense is really playing very well lately. But, like, I just lost Carson Wentz in the two-quarterback league. I'm going to start – if I can pick up Nick Foles, I'm probably going to start him over Mariota. Like, I can't trust Mariota. It's terrible. Yeah, we've got to watch Mariota's status too because Larky said after the game
Starting point is 00:56:11 that he sustained a knee injury in that game and tried to play through it. That means his rushing totals aren't going to be good. At San Francisco and they're starting to play better, I don't know. It's going to be a tough one. Oh, it's hands off with him now. And Rashard Matthews? He's been my personal biggest disappointment. I mean, you know what I thought about him coming into the season.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And Richard Matthews droppable? With the way that Mariota's playing? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you're not starting him next week. Yeah. He's 70% owned. All right. Los Angeles Chargers, 30.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Redskins, 13. This game got away from them, obviously. Pirine still got 45 yards on 17 carries. I mean, 17 carries and a blowout was nice, but didn't do much with it. How much faith do you have in Samaje Pirine with the Cardinals and Broncos coming up? A little. Yeah, not much. I guess the positive will be that that Cardinals game is at home, right?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah. And Arizona's got a pretty bad reputation going to the Eastern time zone. So if they could get some offensive line stability moving into next week, I'd feel a little better about them. Okay. Is there anybody that you feel good about on the Redskins? How would that offensive line be? No.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Okay. Hunter Henry with the touchdown catch. That was nice. Jacksonville, 30. Seattle, 24. So Russell Wilson scores 27 fantasy points. That gives him 26 or more fantasy points in seven of his last eight games. That is incredible.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Jamie, were you encouraged by Mike Davis? Yeah, I don't know what his status is, though, because he was lying on the ground at one point. I didn't see him come back in the game. All right, we'll have to check on him. We'll also have to check on Delaney Walker. I know he left on the second to
Starting point is 00:57:59 last play of the game. Probably fine. Took a big hit. Is there anything to say about Jimmy Graham, or just, hey, sometimes it happens? No, he's home next week, so that's positive. Okay. Yeah, he was bad. Could be a really nice game for the Jaguars next week against the Houston Texans. According to the Seahawks, this was during the game, Mike Davis sustained a rib injury.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Okay. So it would be very frustrating if he's not out there for that game against the Rams. He passes the eyeball test. He had a great first half. Philadelphia 43, the Rams 35. This game was even closer than the score. The Rams did the whole lateral thing at the end, and it was taken back for a touchdown by the Eagles
Starting point is 00:58:39 to pad their score by six more points. Let's see. What do we got here? I think we should just finish the show and talk about the Eagles running back. We alluded to it a little bit earlier. But, Heath, I'll throw it to you. Blunt is 70% owned. Ajayi is almost universally owned.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And Ajayi had eight more carries in this game in a much, much better game. Are you seeing the beginning of Jay Ajayi becoming the feature back? I mean, I've asked that question before about other situations and it hasn't really panned out. Do you think it's going to happen here for the Eagles? I thought Ajayi was going to have a bigger day than he did today.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I felt like the Eagles should have given him the ball more earlier in the game. But yes, I think we started to see the signs of that in the second half last week. Now, they still came out at the beginning of this game and gave Blunt the first drive. But when they needed to move the ball, it was a giant that was on the field. Okay. Time for that running game to take over a little bit with Carson Wentz perhaps missing some time.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Fellas, thank you. Good show today. Well done. I love the enthusiasm. We don't accept praise well. For Heath and Jamie, I am Adam. We'll talk to you on Tuesday with the Waiver Wire. See ya.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Bye.

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