Fantasy Football Today - 12/12: Start or Sit (AFC) (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 12, 2019

Getting through most of the AFC slate and starting with a stat that Courtland Sutton owners need to know. Then we give you players we love (2:42) and players we hate (7:25) this week. How do we feel about Anthony Miller, Juju Smith-Schuster and Baker Mayfield in Week 15? ... Reviewing tonight's game with some injury updates (13:15). Can Robby Anderson find production? Is Lamar Jackson going to be elite this week? Then we've got the rest of the news and notes (17:15), rankings disputes (24:40) on Jared Goff, Kenyan Drake and more, Stats to Know (30:45) and "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" for players we're covering later in the show (36:45) ... HOU-TEN (39:40), MIN-LAC (45:45), CLE-ARI (54:50), IND-NO (1:02:14), JAC-OAK (1:07:40), NE-CIN (1:14:38), BUF-PIT (1:19:25) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Eight games to preview today. Can't wait. Let's get Week 15 started. Semifinals. Here we go. Jets and Ravens kick it off tonight.

Welcome to the show, everybody. Adam Azer with Dave Richard, Jamie Isenberg, Heath Cummings. Going to tell you about matchups for Cortland Sutton, Tom Brady, Joe Mixon, Baker Mayfield. We've got a segment called Heath is Wrong. Very excited for that. Hey, what's going on, Heath? How you doing? It's kind of ironic that it's week 15 and you owe America 15 push-ups. How about that? You did it. You put it on Twitter. You did your 15 push-ups. I will

do mine in installments, five per day for the next three days. Something like that. See how many we can do. Jamie, what's up? How are you, bud? I'm good. I got some real good stats, good nuggets for today's show. Dave, would you like to hear my Cortland Sutton stat? Not as much as I'd like to see you do 15 push-ups with your cat Zoe on

your back. Well, maybe I'll get that on video for you. Okay, Cortland Sutton is at Kansas City. The Chiefs have had six home games this year. In those home games, no visiting wide receiver has had 60 yards, and only B.C. Johnson caught a touchdown. DeAndre Hopkins had a solid game, nine catches for 55 yards, solid in PPR. But how about that? No receiver has 60 yards at Kansas City,

only three wide receivers with more than six targets, by the way, in those six home games. How do you feel about Cortland Sutton? I still have him as a number two receiver. It's toward the bottom of the list of number two receivers, but I'm ignoring last week. I know last week was a total dud, especially in non-PPR. It made you puke, but I still see him as the best receiver in Denver. Really, he's the only wide receiver. He's the only wide out for the Broncos that's caught a touchdown this year

who's currently on the team. I've got him as a borderline number two, but borderline number two isn't great this week because of all that's true we had like there are several guys that were available on the waiver wire that I would start over Cortland Sutton GD Westbrook um I would start Debo over him I'd start Darius Slayton over him AJ Brown AJ Brown over him so I don't think he's a definite start he's right in that borderline range depending on who you picked up. He had six catches for 87 yards in the first game, first meeting against the Chiefs back in Week 7, and gets seven to nine targets in every game except for one,

which is pretty good, and usually gives you a pretty nice floor. All right, so that's Cortland Sutton. And let's talk about some players we love, players we hate this week. Jamie, who's a player you love? I still think DeAndre Washington is worth holding onto right now or picking up where available. This whole thing is weird after what John Gruden said yesterday. So I'm going to stick with him.

I think he's going to end up getting a good workload here even if Josh Jacobs plays. So you're not going to trust him if Jacobs is active. Right, so you don't love him if Jacobs plays. No, I do. If Jacobs plays, you're not going to love him. No, but I think he's still going you're not going to love him? No. But I think he's still going to be the main running back for the Raiders this week.

Okay. It's a love-hate relationship. Yeah. Yes. Well, that's either going to give us a great DeAndre Washington or a bad situation in the Oakland backfield against Jacksonville, unfortunately. It sounds like John Gruden doesn't want to play Josh Jacobs. Well, I want him to play Josh Jacobs.

So you know what? I don't care. It sounds like John Gruden doesn't want to play Josh Jacobs. Well, I want him to play Josh Jacobs. So, you know what? I don't care. It just, but it makes you wonder who leaked it to Ian Rappaport and whether that person, like, no one's above John Gruden. May I? Well, is he? Could be Jacobs camp. He wants to play.

Could be. Yeah. Dave, who do you love? Player I love this week. I love Baker mayfield going up against the cardinals easiest matchup you can get against the coach who he uh parted ways with while in college baker's not petty is he he's not gonna hold a grudge great matchup for his receivers yeah yeah i don't know if that's true i think he goes out there and tries to put on a show and it could actually end up being a moderately high-scoring game

between those two teams. And I see Mayfield as a top-12 quarterback this week. Can he put on a show, though? That's the question. Well, why couldn't he? Well, we thought he was going to do that last week, too. And he didn't against the Bengals at home. Bengals are good.

No, they're not. Typically where he's played well. I just don't know. I mean, Beckham just seems like he's out there going through the motions because he's not 100%. That's played well i just don't know i mean beckham just seems like he's he's out there going through the motions because he's not 100 that's true he's not you watch him play and can't he get enough out of just landry at this point i bet back on the reliable guy beckham will be okay i am scared to death of starting baker yes i just i and again it just comes back to how are you going to feel when you wake up Monday morning if you started a quarterback averaging 15 fantasy points a game and he gives you 15 fantasy points and you lose.

I'm not going to feel very good about it. I lost a playoff matchup last week because of Baker's poor performance. Lost by two. By my count, he's had four good matchups this year. And you could debate whether or not the Jets are a good matchup because the Jets had a three or four game stretch where they were awful. And other than that, they've actually been pretty solid this year. And you could debate whether or not the Jets are a good matchup because the Jets had a three or four game stretch where they were awful. And other than that, they've actually been pretty solid this year. But he scored 17 points at the Jets, six points per pass in

touchdown league. 17 points, I think that was week two, week three, whatever it was. 20 points against Seattle. No, it was two. 17 at the Jets, 20 points against Seattle, 29 against the Dolphins, which is why I was so excited. I thought he'd do great against the Bengals.

He had a horrible game, 10 points against the Bengals. He's had a brutal schedule. Cardinals, as Dave said, give up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Last week, Devlin Hodges had a 117.5 passer rating against the Arizona Cardinals. He only scored 15 points, but he completed 16 of 19 passes. So if there's any team that Baker's going to do it against, it's going to be the Cardinals. That was one of our ranking disputes, but I think you just heard it.

Dave likes him, likes Baker Mayfield, and Heath and Jamie have him as a sit, which brings us to Heath, the player you love this week. No, for me, he's in that middle junk area. Okay. I can think of no better way to describe it. I could see him play well, but I have no faith in him. Eli Manning or Baker Mayfield? Eli. Eli. Carson Wentz or Baker Mayfield?

Mayfield. David Blau or Baker Mayfield? Same. I would go Baker Mayfield. Okay. There we go. Now I got you on the Mayfield. All right. Great. Heath, who do we love? Who do you love? I think I'm kind of alone on this one this week, but I do love Anthony Miller still. He has more targets than Alan Robinson

over the past month. He has really performed well on a per target basis. Last week, we saw the targets go down, but he still caught a touchdown. I do think the Bears are going to have to throw the ball a little bit against the Packers in this game. And so I love him as a top 20 wide receiver. He's part of the secret sauce for why Mitchell Trubisky is 20 fantasy points in four of his past five. Mitchell Trubisky or Baker Mayfield? Trubisky by about 10 spots. I don't think Trubisky plays well.

I like Baker better than Trubisky too. I think this is a bad game for Trubisky this week. I think Trubisky is in the junk for me, but Anthony Miller is not. He's a number two receiver. The middle junk. That's what you get to hear about on fantasy football today. Did you junk for me, but Anthony Miller is not. He's a number two receiver. The middle junk. That's what you get to hear about on fantasy football today. Did you say this or not? Anthony Miller,

Anthony Miller or Cortland Sutton? Miller. I'll still take Sutton. I believe I have Sutton higher than Miller, but they're both toward the low end of the wide receiver to range. All right. Let's see who we hate this week. Start with you, Dave.

I don't hate you, but who do you hate? Hate is such a strong word. I'm not going to start Juju. I know that he's back. I know everybody's happy that he's back. If I'm still playing fantasy football, I got to this point without Juju Smith-Schuster. He's taking on Buffalo.

We have no idea how good or bad he's going to be. I'm going to continue to sit Juju Smith-Schuster. Okay. I think that's a safe bet for sure. Jamie? Kirk Cousins. Don't like the matchup for him against the Chargers. They've been fantastic against quarterbacks all season long.

And I think this is going to be a tough game for him. I think this is one of those games where you can see the Vikings looking ahead. They have two division opponents coming up after this game, two tough opponents after this game that could decide their playoff fate. And so I think, as we've seen with Cousins, sometimes he just manages through the game.

I think, again, you look at the Chargers and their defense and what they've done against opposing quarterbacks all season long, especially now that they're healthy. So I think Cousins is going to be under 20 fantasy points, not somebody I'd be excited about starting. Baker or Cousins? Baker. I've got him 11-12 in my... I think Cousins is going to be under 20 fantasy points, not somebody I'd be excited about starting. Baker or Cousins?

Baker. I've got him 11-12 in my... I think I have him 24-25. Cousins is just inside my top 24. I think it's a rough week for him. You know, the only time Cousins has been bad since like week four has been when the Vikings haven't needed him.

He's come through at Seattle. He's come through against the Cowboys, came through at Kansas City. Was it at Kansas City? I think so. At's come through at Seattle. He's come through against the Cowboys. Came through at Kansas City. Was it at Kansas City? I think so. At Kansas City. Broncos. I'm sticking with Cousins as a top 12. All of a sudden, the Chargers defense is amazing because they shut down Gardner Mitchell.

Amazing? No, but look at the numbers against quarterbacks all throughout the season. There's been two guys over 20 fantasy points against them. They do a great job in just limiting opposing passing games. Now they have Derwin James back. Their secondary is healthy. Their pass rush is healthy. I think you're looking at a situation where Cousins doesn't have a big game. I think he'll be fine.

18, 17, 18 points. I think that's okay. I just don't think he's going to go above 20 fantasy points. Yeah. They give the six fewest fantasy points to the quarterbacks. They also see the fewest pass attempts in the NFL. If only the Vikings had a running game. They play slow and ugly. They don't really have a great running game lately.

This is one of the stats I wanted to give out. This might surprise you. Well, the Chargers run defense has been good. You've talked about this. Yeah, hold on, though. This might surprise you. Both. Their defense as a whole has been good. This might surprise you.

Dalvin Cook is averaging 3.35 yards per carry in his last five games. Meanwhile, in their last five games, the Chargers are giving up 3.42 yards per carry. his last five games. Meanwhile, in their last five games, the Chargers are giving up 3.42 yards per carry. So by no means am I saying sit down and cook these scores, but it's crazy. When they're healthy, their defense is good. And they're healthy now. Juju Smith-Schuster, Kirk Cousins, let's move on.

Heath, who's the player you hate this week? I'm going to go with Matt Ryan. The San Francisco 49ers got gashed by Drew Brees at Coors Field, but we're not going to go with Matt Ryan. The San Francisco 49ers got gashed by Drew Brees at Coors Field, but we're not going to hold that against them. They've given up 12.5 fantasy points per game at home. Matt Ryan's outside, doesn't have Calvin Ridley, still has good weapons, but doesn't have all of his weapons,

and I just don't want to trust him this week. You see the injuries in the secondary for San Francisco. And pass rush. Well, they lost D4, but they still have Bosa, Buckner, Armstead. To me, the pass rush is still going to be good. Losing D4 isn't enough for me to knock that, but the secondary, that does have some holes in it,

but I can't call him a top 12 quarterback. No, I agree, but I think it's going to have one of those ugly garbage time performances where he ends up with good fantasy production. So it's not going to be one of those aesthetically pleasing games like we saw from Breeze against the 49ers last week.

But I still think he's going to have a... He'll be above 20 fantasy points this week. Not a must start, though. I agree with Heath. Not a must start, but somebody that I think will still be good. Okay, so that's Matt Ryan. And yeah, it's Richard Sherman's out.

And then you've got a cornerback, Kwon Williams, has a concussion. He's their slot corner. Jaquiski Tart has injured ribs. So they might be out three important members of their secondary. And, of course, Calvin Ridley out. So we're not seeing these teams at full strength here in Week 15. So, again, we love DeAndre Washington if Josh Jacobs is out.

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That's great. Yeah, and welcome to the world of fantasy football. Thanks for listening. I want to revisit the Thursday night game real quick, guys, with a couple of updates. Ryan Griffin's out. Demarius Thomas, I think, is doubtful. I mean, Robbie Anderson, he's got to fall into some production, right?

Like, Sam Darnold's not going to throw for 100 yards, right? What do you guys think? I don't know. I don't want to start Robbie Anderson. There's not one Jets player that I would like to play this week at all. Not even Le'Veon? Not even Le'Veon. I don't want to start Le'Veon not one Jets player that I would like to play this week at all. Not even Le'Veon? Not even Le'Veon. I don't want to start Le'Veon.

No, no, no, no. All right, I guess I'm the only one here. I'm okay with Le'Veon, and if I was really forced to, like I couldn't have picked up anybody off the waiver wire, I guess I'd go with Robbie. It does make me feel a little gross, but he's been playing like the number one receiver for the Jets. He's been getting a lot of targets and his speed is a factor and he's running across

the field and they're going to be trailing. And I'm with you, Adam. I think he could fall into some production. I'm starting him in our Yolo dynasty league just because I have terrible wide receivers. But I think Corey Davis is my other Corey Davis. Yeah, of course. But not AJ Brown. No, not Darius Slayton.

I'd start amandola over robbie anderson and ppr i would too i would not but i i understand where you're coming from on that yeah that's not a bad one he's facing the and then with levion it's he's getting 20 touches a game this ravens run defense has been good it hasn't been great it's a short week he's got fresh legs after he bowled a 251 he's gonna be he's gonna be able to get you modest numbers and non-ppr obviously better in ppr okay uh let me just ask you this would you start robbie anderson over either devon singletary or james connor in that sunday no no hey man look james connor you got to feel a little nervous about right oh for sure but not as nervous as I am about any Jets player. I start Connor over Le'Veon.

Okay. That's interesting. So let's get... Oh, sorry. Last thing. Baltimore left tackle Ronnie Stanley is doubtful. And here's a quote from Lamar Jackson. If I have to be out there all four quarters, that's what it's going to be. I'm not going in there thinking I should sit out a little bit. I'm trying to win the game. And that's what we're going into Thursday night game looking at. Does that inspire a lot of confidence in you, like talking about being out there for all four quarters? He's playing. He's playing, but is he going to, you know, does he deserve to be the number one or number two quarterback in your rankings?

I mean, that's debatable. I don't think anybody that has Lamar Jackson looking at it and saying, I'm going to sit in for Ryan Tannehill. You know, that's just not in anybody's mentality. I've seen a lot of Deshaun Watson or Lamar Jackson. I guess if you have that situation, you could probably take the safe route. You want to go Deshaun Watson, that's fine. I just look at it this way, that if he's sitting, they have a lead.

How they got the lead is probably him having some part in it. Would you feel better if Lamar said, well, the plan is we're going to go score 35 in the first half so I don't have to play in the second half so I can rest up? Who talks about playing all four quarters? That's a guy who's nursing injury right now. Well, he's asked about his injury. Yeah, exactly. He's asked about his injury, so he's giving an answer to the question about his injury.

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So download the SeatGeek app. Use the promo code FFT. And get $10 off your first SeatGeek purchase with the promo code FFT on SeatGeek. We'll run through the news and notes here. Daniel Jones practiced, but he's not—I don't know if he practiced, but he's not expected to play. He's making progress. We're still expecting Eli Manning. He did practice.

He practiced with the second team. We're still expecting Eli Manning. He did practice. He practiced with the second team. We're still expecting Eli Manning against the Dolphins. Patrick Mahomes said his hand is good. Good to go. Dak Prescott has an injured finger on his right hand. He has a bruised left wrist. Is he still a start for you, Mahomes, against the Rams? Prescott, pardon me, against the Rams.

Yes, both of them. Low-end starter for Dak. Pat Prescott and Dak Mahomes. What about Jameis? Sorry for stepping on my own joke. With the broken hand. I like Jameis this week, yeah. As long as he gets in some sort of limited practice by Friday,

then you should be fine with him. Bruce Arians right now says he's playing, so didn't practice on Wednesday. Josh Jacobs may play this week. We'll have to keep you updated on that. Derrick Henry mispracticed, but he's expected to play. Damian Williams practiced. Oh, that's fun. Stay away.

Stay away from all the Chiefs running back. It's not fun at all, Adam. What are you talking about? No, it's not fun. It's a real clown situation. I would like to make sure that Damian didn't get dropped this week, because if he comes back and just assumes the role that he's had most of the time that he's played, you might want to use him next week. Against Chicago? You might. Yeah, without Hicks and Roquan? if he comes back and just assumes the role that he's had most of the time that he's played, you might want to use him next week. Okay.

Against Chicago? You might. Yeah, without Hicks and Roquan? Unless Hicks comes back. Oh, Hicks is back! He could be back next week, I think. He could be back this week, I'm pretty sure. Could he? I thought it was week 16. Get out of it, Dave! Somebody look it up, because I think it's this week.

James Conner, practice in full. I'm going to put Adam at plus 180 here. Hey, by the way, Heath, yesterday I gave that stat about Philip Lindsay averaging 3.8 yards per carry. Did you find out where you got it from? It's his last four games. Last four games. I figured it was a split. You can usually guess. If it's YPC, it's a split for Adam Azer.

James Conner practiced in full. Alexander Madison mispracticed. Bo Scarborough was limited. Devontae Freeman was limited with a knee injury. Makes it even easier to get away from Devontae Freeman. Adam Thielen is expected to play this week. I haven't seen him in your rankings yet. Where do you think you're going to rank Adam Thielen at the Chargers?

I think it's going to be closer to 24 than 12. Courtland Sutton range. Yep. That's good. Adam, I think you got us on this one. Hake 12. Courtland Sutton range. Yep. That's good. Adam, I think you got us on this one. Woo! Hakeem Hicks. Heath is wrong, part two!

He practiced in full on Wednesday. This is according to NBC Sports Chicago. He's eligible to return this week. It looks like he is. Yeah. It looks like he is. I really am not happy that I'm starting Aaron Jones. Like, I know I'm starting Aaron Jones,

but I might be gutsy enough to start Miles Sanders starting Aaron Jones. Like I know I'm starting Aaron Jones, but I wouldn't like, I might be gutsy enough to start miles Sanders over Aaron Jones. I don't think I would, but I think it sucks that Aaron Jones has a brutal matchup in week 15. Um, Will Fuller's questionable. Julio Jones was limited in practice. Tyler Lockett is back to full strength.

According to Pete Carroll, Tyler Lockett, Robbie Anderson, Lockett, Lockett. It's it's Lockett, but to full strength, according to Pete Carroll. Tyler Lockett or Robbie Anderson? Lockett. It's Lockett, but I don't feel good about either one. T.Y. Hilton feels better, but he doesn't know if he'll play this week. You're not playing Hilton, but you should keep that in mind with Paschal. Yes, I know. Unfortunately, it's Monday night, but yeah. Mike Williams was limited in practice. DJ Chark has not been ruled out yet.

I think it seems like he's not going to play, but he hasn't been ruled out. Is he still scooting? No, I think he's out, DJ Chark. Well, then I guess he's got a chance. But then again, I'm not sure, and I want to go out on a high note with the Akeem Hicks thing.

Tampa Bay wide receiver Scotty Miller practiced. Does that get you out of Brashad Perryman or Watson? I prefer the Dol the dolphins guys currently because i don't think parker he had a chance to play but i don't think he's going to play the herns is also hurt there we go isaiah ford all of the isaiah ford yeah devonta bad dfs start throw but devonta parker does have a chance to play he's making some progress with the concussion same with albert we talked about that on the DFS podcast, Dave. Yes.

Marvin Jones out. I didn't mention Danny Amendola yesterday, but he's not a bad flyer against Tampa Bay. Nelson Aguilar is questionable at Washington. Evan Ingram was limited in practice, but we've seen this story. Gerald Everett still day-to-day, so still looking good right now for Higby.

Greg Olson was limited in practice. He has a concussion. Ian Thomas certainly would be in play against Seattle. Noah Fant missed practice, but he could play. And David Ajoku was limited in practice. And so actually pretty big defensive injury. Sheldon Rankins and defensive end Marcus Davenport are out for the season for the Saints.

Huge. And they've taken a hit at linebacker as well. Their front seven is not in the shape that it once was. Yeah, Marlon Mack's going to have a good game. I legitimately think he could. I may come around on Mack LeBron. I've got him as a sit right now. I may come around on him. I'll look at that again. He's in my

top 24 years. Oh, top 20. I think it's a good opportunity. Again, with those guys being out. And I know people are worried about the carries because two weeks ago he only had 14, but then he broke his hand. And then last week he only had 13, but he was coming back from the broken hand. I worry that he doesn't play on passing downs still. I think he's going to play on passing downs.

He's a much better non-PPR guy than PPR. But I still think that you're talking about what the Colts game plan is probably going to be early. And what the defense looks like now for the Saints. Plus their red zone opportunities. So you have Mack ahead of Peterson? Yes. Do you? probably going to be early and what the defense looks like now for the Saints that, you know, plus their red zone opportunity. So you have Mack ahead of Peterson? Yes. Do you? I think they're really similar. And I get where you're coming from on that, but I

just think Mack's better. Mack or Mostert? Better offensive line. Raheem? It's close for me in non-PPR. PPR, I'd still go Mostert just because those two catches that he'll get will help him. I'll go Mostert. Falcons. Akeem Hicks expected to play. Kevin

King limited in practice. It's Green Bay's cornerback. Told you about the San Francisco injuries. Seattle could get Ezekiel Ansah and Michael Kendricks back at Carolina. Washington's going to be without Quinton Dunbar. He's been a top cornerback for them, but they're facing the Eagles who have no passing game right now.

So real quick, here's a segment called Heath is Wrong. I know you've all been waiting for it. Dave, I have a question for you. Who is the commissioner of the 14-team PPR podcast, like the original one, not the one we were talking about on yesterday's show? Who's the commissioner of that podcast league? I believe it's you. And how do you know it's me?

What gives you that impression? Besides the picture of a cat on the front of the league that looks that's got your face on it no it's nicholas cage's face i think i think i thought that was your face no uh well what else nicholas cage's face on our podcast league because he's a cat it it's like a meme thing um i sent out the emails right i picked the people who are in the league i set the playoff i ignore the emails yeah okay but i do all that stuff because i'm the commissioner did you know that you're also the commissioner and heath is also the commissioner because you guys have commissioner access would you consider yourself the commissioner of the podcast league

dave no but i think if no you're not that's the answer. You're not. Are you a co-commissioner? No, he's not. Can you do anything the commissioner can do? He's not a co-commissioner. If I've got the access, then technically I can. You are a co-commissioner, right? No. By that- I can't wait till the-

By that definition, yes. Is this regulating? When he rushes us through games. Okay, let's get going. 60 seconds ranking disputes. Wait, why is he wrong? You never said why he's wrong. You had to listen to yesterday.

Yeah, you kind of failed on that. No, if you listen- I guess Keith is you kind of bailed on that. No. I guess Heath is right. I think I won that. Congratulations. No. If you listen to yesterday's show, you know Heath thinks that I'm the commissioner of a league because I have commissioner access. It doesn't make me a co-commissioner.

I haven't done a dang commissioner thing for the podcast. That Heath is wrong was wonderful. Heath is wrong. The Heath is off. Jared Goff. Let's talk about that. 60-second ranking ranking disputes and you only have 60 seconds. Dave and

Jamie have him eighth and ninth respectively at Dallas. Heath has Jared Goff 23rd. Heath is wrong. You start on Goff. He has looked better the last couple of weeks, but still last week just had 19 fantasy points. You look at since the bye.

3-4-4- four twenty eight nineteen i've referenced gardner menshu a lot in talking about like baker mayfield and matt ryan because i know that i've stuck with him longer than other people and maybe should have given up by now but again gardner menshu has been better than jared goff has been this season 15 better in terms of fantasy points per game and that includes a half where he wasn't even the quarterback for the whole game. So I just, I don't want to trust Jared Goff, a quarterback who's been very bad in fantasy for most of this season. Jamie, I'll give this one to Jamie.

Dave, you'll be next. Yeah, I can't look at season at this point versus what's happening right now. And the Cowboys defense thinks and Goff is playing well. I know the 19 points or 18 points. He had 19 last week. 19 last week. He had a throw that was a pick six. That was Robert Wood stopped on the route.

That shouldn't have been an interception, let alone a pick six. I think this game is going to go back and forth up and down. And so I think it's going to be a lot of scoring. So with the way Goff is playing right now against his Dallas defense, which is banged up and not playing very well, I think Goff keeps it up for another week. So I think he's got another 20 plus point game in him.

What do Jeff Driscoll, Josh Allen, and Mitchell Trubisky have in common? Dave, you're not in this one. Sorry, Adam is wrong. Answer my question. What do Jeff Driscoll... They all did well against the Cowboys. Driscoll, Josh Allen, Mitchell Trubisky. Yeah, they all crushed the Cowboys. Thank you.

Miles Sanders is next. Dave, you're the low guy on him. 25th in non-PPR, 26th in PPR. Heath and Jamie have Miles Sanders is next. Dave, you're the low guy on him. 25th and non PPR 26th and PPR Heath and Jamie have Miles Sanders around 15th, 14th or so, even 12th and non PPR. So, um, yeah, Dave, you're a low guy on Sanders. I'm scared that Boston Scott is a real deal and that what he gave the Eagles last week in terms of another element to their offense and someone that has some speed is going to be alluring to their coaching staff. And the 85% snap rate that we

saw from Miles Sanders is going to dissipate. He's going to end up splitting with Boston Scott. It's a great matchup against Washington. There's no doubt about it, but it makes me nervous. I'm calling him a low end number two running back. Let's go, Jamie. Jamie, you're pro Miles Sanders. Yeah, I mean, despite everything Scott did last week, Sanders still had 19 total touches. So I don't think it's all of a sudden he's going from a game where he was cramping and had to leave the game to a situation where he's going to be worse than 19 total touches. I think Scott's got a great role carved out for him in a team that needs receiving help.

And so when they're in some obvious passing situations, he's going to be on the field. I just think that they're going to be playing with the lead, have an opportunity to lean on their run game. That's still going to be Sanders. There's no chance I'm getting away from him this week against Washington. Okay, and we got to see, obviously Jordan Howard has to be out,

but we're not planning on having Howard at this point. Kenyon Drake is next. Let's go Heath versus Dave. Heath, you have Kenyon Drake top 17. 17th in non-PPR, 15th in PPR. Dave has him 27th in PPR, 34th in non-PPR. Dave and Jamie both have Kenyon Drake outside the top 24. This will be definitely his best matchup of the year with San Francisco.

He has faced some really, really good run defenses. So, Heath, make the case for Kenyon Drake. With San Francisco? Sorry, he's faced San really good run defenses. So Heath, make the case for Kenyon Drake. With San Francisco? Sorry, he's faced San Francisco twice. Right. With Arizona. He's faced San Francisco twice, Tampa Bay, the Rams, and the Steelers. Now he gets the Browns. Go ahead, Heath, on Kenyon Drake. Even

with David Johnson getting more involved, even with Chase Edmonds coming back from Andrew, we've seen at least 14 touches from Kenyon Drake in every game with the Cardinals. And this Browns run defense, 4.7 yards per carry, bottom 10 in terms of fantasy points, allowed two running backs in the last two weeks. Absolutely destroyed. The Bengals' backs had 232 total yards.

You can chop that up two or three different ways. And there's plenty of room for a running back to be good. The Steelers, without James Conner, had 131 in a score in week 13. I think Drake's a solid starter this week. You know, I actually started the week feeling that way. And you mentioned David Johnson, and he's starting to pick up a little bit more work and a little bit more work. And Drake is starting to play a little bit worse

and a little bit worse. And I wonder if that's going to be closer to a 50-50 split than, what was it last week? Probably along the lines of 65-35. I like Drake as a flex. I don't have any problem with that. I don't like that he has three games in his last four with single-digit PPR fantasy points.

So I'm nervous about him finding double digits. And it gets worse if David Johnson starts to take work. It was 14-5 last week in terms of touches. Touches, yes, but playing time, I think it starts to shift too, and that'll hurt the touch. I've gone back and forth on Drake as well. I think the one thing that I'm curious about is if this is

the end for David Johnson in Arizona, which I don't know what the contract situation is, if they can move on from him. It's the last home game in Arizona. I think they like him. I think they respect him. I don't think it's a we don't want you around. But he may not just be the right fit for Cliff Kingsbury.

And so I wonder if this is almost, will give you a little bit more work, like Dave said. He had the touchdown last week. So I just wonder what the scenario is for David Johnson in terms of how the Cardinals treat him in this game. And in case you're wondering about the contract, he would cost $16.2 million of dead money and negative $2 million in cap savings. They would not save any money by cutting David Johnson,

but trading David Johnson. Post-June 2? Post-June 2. I think it changes after post-June 1st, but I think trading him is going to be the way that they go. And I wonder if there's a team in the NFC South that might be interested in adding a running back that might have experienced drafting and leaning on David Johnson. I think so. All right.

That's going to do it for the 60 second rankings disputes. Thank you, guys. I'm going to throw out just a stat and you're going to give me a real quick analysis. Let's go. Heath, Jamie, Dave, Heath, you get get this one it's about alvin camara he's facing the colts in their last 11 games only two running backs have had more than 10 fantasy points in non-ppr or 12 fantasy points in ppr against the colts jalen samuels who had 13 catches for 73 yards and derrick henry who was amazing they've been very very good other than

that do you think alvin camara gets more than 12 ppr fantasy points this week i do i in ppr i'm really just not even considering what i'm doing with alvin camara because i do expect he's going to catch six or seven passes and i'm just not going to sit him especially in that building um and non-ppr i'm a little bit worried about camara this week. Like when we thought, even now, we're not ranking Josh Jacobs. So I've got DeAndre Washington ahead of Alvin Kamara in non-PPR. But I think in PPR, you just start him. All right, Jamie, this is not quite a stat, but it's worth noting. This is Oakland's last home game in Oakland.

So, you know, does that... Or the Raiders' last home game in Oakland. I think Oakland's going to stay in Oakland. Well, you know, does that... Or the Raiders' last home game in Oakland. I think Oakland's going to stay in Oakland. Well, you know, they're in negotiations. But this is the Raiders' last home game in Oakland. Does that mean anything, that storyline, like in terms of game script or anything? It does when you're looking at a team

that's coming across the country that the last thing they want to do is get on a plane. Absolutely. I think Derek Carr's going to have a monster game. I think Josh Jacobs or DeAndre Washington has a great game. I think Tyrell Williams is going to find the end zone. Darren Waller, I think, is going to play well. All the main guys for Oakland are in play this week because Jacksonville

is so bad and you have the sentiment of what that building will be. I think it's going to be electric. I think it's going to be an opportunity for the Raiders to go out in Oakland with a big win against a team that stinks. As Pete Prisco-Drink has told us time and time again this week, Keith is probably tired of hearing it,

the Jaguars' history going to Oakland has been miserable in their history. So it's all set up for bad team, bad defense, bad opponent, don't want to be there, and a team, I think, Derek Carr has sort of embodied this Oakland move, taking on the fan base and sort of saying, you move, taking on the fan base and sort of saying, we're still here for you. And I think he's going to give them a strong performance in the last game there. You know who this game

means the most to? Gruden. He loves the black hole. So I would imagine he'll try and pull out all the stops. Dave, this one's for you. New England, they faced the Bengals this week. They've allowed one rushing touchdown to a running back this season. It was Gus Edwards. What's that

mean in terms of Joe Mixon? I'm still starting Mixon. I think Cincinnati gives the Patriots a game, believe it or not. I know that sounds weird, but I think Mixon can get 100 total yards as a minimum, and I think he's got a chance to find the end zone. I know this Patriots defense has been great, but

Bengals have been playing a little bit better both sides of the ball. 100 total yards is the minimum? Yeah. I think he's got a chance to find the end zone. I know this Patriots defense has been great, but Bengals have been playing a little bit better, both sides of the ball. Under 12 yards is the minimum? Yeah. I think he'll get you a double-digit non-PPR point. I take the under on the total yard. All right, Heath, this one's for you. I give this stat a lot.

Maybe it means something for Soti Michel. 15 straight running backs with 15 or more carries against the Bengals going back to last year. Have 91 rushing yards or a touchdown. Six for six this season. I think definitely the Patriots running backs will combine for that without a doubt. I have very little idea who it will be. Sony Michelle snaps and carries are trending in the wrong direction.

I can't start him. And I will acknowledge that this could be a game where Sony Michelle gets 25 carries for 130 yards and scores three touchdowns. I have no reason to believe that he's even the lead running back right now. There's a few scenarios for me that I think guys can have standout performances this week. He's the definition of it. 100%. The Bengals are bad. He should get a lot of carries, like you said, Adam.

The track record speaks for itself. I don't care. He's going to do it on my bench I cannot trust him it's how I feel about Baker I think Baker could have a great game shouldn't that be how you feel about Tyrell Williams I feel a little bit more confident in Tyrell Williams because of what the Jacksonville defense

looks like but same type of thing it's just a matter of the three for me are Baker, Tyler Lockett, and Sonny Michel when I think of this. I think they can all play great. I just don't have a trust factor that it will happen. And Tyrell Williams is fine. You're 100% right. He's in that same category.

I just feel a little bit differently about him just knowing what this Jacksonville defense looks like. The number was 15 carries, Adam. That's how many carries Sonny has in his last two games. Yeah, but one, they were chasing points. And what was the last game? Oh, it was against the Chiefs. And one, they were ahead.

No. Maybe they won't be ahead or behind. No, they weren't ahead. I mean, they lost both games. They lost both games. They were behind for the Houston. It was Houston and Kansas City, right? Yeah.

So it wasn't the right games this year. Surprisingly, eight games with 15 plus carries. Yeah, I think he's a good DFS play if you want to go that route for FanDuel. Just with the contrarian option of him, you know, he could have two touchdowns. It wouldn't be a surprise. He had a three touchdown game

against the Jets earlier this season. So if he gets to work, he should be fine. But then they're getting Karras back. That'll help. At least that's the expectation. Yeah. So, you know, there are reasons to like Sonny Michel, but I don't care. I mean, the last thing I'm doing is going into my semifinals with,

and you're right, Tyrell Williams is the same type of player. Guys who have just been disappointing across the board for several weeks, it's just hard to say I feel comfortable starting them. Odell is probably the same thing. Oh, that's my last stat. You guys have 10 seconds to give analysis on this because we got to move into the games. Odell Beckham has six or more targets in every game

except for one, which was last week. If you get six or more targets against the Cardinals, you are going to have a good game. 17 out of 19 wide receivers who have had six or more targets against Cardinals have had either 80 yards or a touchdown. Starter, Sid Odell Beckham. He's a number two receiver for me.

Couldn't keep him out of my top 24. I could. He's just outside. Yeah, he's outside mine too. I would start like Cortland Sutton is kind of like the line and he's just behind Cortland Sutton for me. Yeah, I'd start Sutton on him too. Oh, I would too, but they're both top 20.

Start, sit, or flex at best for some of the games that we're getting to later in the show, which will be about two hours from now. John Brown at Pittsburgh. Sit. How about... Yeah, we knew that. Cole Beasley at Pittsburgh.

Flex. Flex. PPR flex. Who do you like better, Brown or Beasley? Beasley. Beasley. Brown. Like the Bills.

I like Beasley better. Devin Singletary at Pittsburgh. Brown. I like the Bills. I like Beasley better. Devin Singletary at Pittsburgh. Flex. Start. Good enough to start. James Conner against Buffalo. Start. Start.

Flex. Singletary or Conner? Singletary. Conner and non-PPR, Singletary and PPR. Yes, that. Phillip Lindsay at Kansas City. Start. Start. Start. Start.

Start. Ahead of Singletary and Connor? Yes. Yeah. All right. Singletary's had like 78 or more total yards, or 70 or more total yards in five of his last six games. He gets a lot of work.

A Kansas City running back against Denver. Sit them all? Sit. Okay. We talked about Corlin Seid, and we talked about Joe Mixon. How about James White at Cincinnati? a Kansas City running back against Denver. Sit them all? Sit. Okay. Talked about Corlin Seidman. We talked about Joe Mixon. How about James White at Cincinnati?

Start in PPR. Start in PPR. Really? Has he justified that, though? He really hasn't, except for the Houston game. If they're winning this game. Last two weeks. Last two weeks, right? Last two weeks, he's been 11 or more PPR points.

Just like he has pretty much all season long. He had the one bad game three weeks ago. Yeah, I guess. I mean, not great. Tyler Boyd against New England. Sit. Sit. Flex and PPR sit otherwise.

Heath, do you like Tyler Boyd and FanDuel? I don't. Okay. Give me like one or two players that you really like in FanDuel. Not DeAndre Washington. I really, really like Chris Carson. I would just like to play him in every lineup and figure the rest out. And I like

Julian Edelman, the other wide receiver in that game because they don't really have any other wide receivers that are playing very well right now. Jamie and I might disagree on Danny Amendola versus Robbie Anderson, but Amendola's $5,400 on FanDuel. That's a good price. That's what you do. You gotta find those values

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Wide receivers against Houston in their last five games since they got healthy in their secondary. Only two have had more than 50 yards. Keelan Cole and Julian Edelman. Only Edelman and Seth Roberts have caught a touchdown. They've faced Jacksonville, Baltimore, the Colts with a hobbled Hilton,

the Patriots, and Denver. So not the best, but they've been pretty good against receivers in their last five games. A.J. Brown is obviously a hot topic. We talked a lot about him yesterday, so we won't spend that much time today, guys. But I think you all have him in your top 20, I believe. Is that right? a hot topic. We talked a lot about him yesterday, so we won't spend that much time today, guys. I think you all have him in your top 20, I believe. Is that right? 24. 24. All right.

Jamie, you want to tell us how you feel about A.J. Brown and who you'd start him over? Just give him five targets. Every time in Ryan Tannehill's starting tenure since week seven, he's had five or more targets. He's in Ryan Tannehill's starting tenure since week seven, he's had five or more targets.

He's had 12 or more PPR points. So it doesn't take a lot, but that's all he needs based on what we've seen. So I think he's a starter. Look, it's a secondary that's beatable. It's a quarterback that's playing well. This has been his favorite target or most consistent target, most consistent producer. So I think this is one of those guys that you ride the hot hand, and in a matchup where I think producer. So, um, you know, I,

I think this is one of those guys that you ride the hot hand and in a matchup where I think they'll have a chance to throw on, I'll take my chance with him. Like I would start AJ Brown over Odell Beckham. I just, I said this earlier in the week, you have to, if you put AJ Brown in your lineup,

you have to be okay with knowing a three could be there next to his name at the end of the day. With Beckham too. Yeah. Right. Yeah. There's no safety with Beckham. Beckham to me is an easy one.

Like I think it's, uh, um, sorry. I think of somebody that's tough sutton's tough for me i've got him over set too i do too all right it is risky i don't really want to start those guys that could give me a three but hey he could give you he'd give you a 30 i guess not quite that but he'd give you a 20 um all right so let's stick with the titans here And Ryan Tannehill, last I checked, was a top seven quarterback for everybody. Yeah. Five, seven, and seven for Jamie, Dave, and Heath. So start Ryan Tannehill. We can compare it. Basically, start him over everybody that's not Lamar Jackson, Drew Brees, Mahomes, Deshaun Watson. That's it for Jamie. Also, Jameis Winston and Garoppolo for Dave Russell Wilson

and Prescott for Heath you're starting Ryan Tannehill you're starting Derek Henry any interest in John Smith as the Texans have been a little vulnerable against tight ends lately no no I'm not comfortable enough for that alrighty so sit John

Smith let's go to the Texans to Sean Watson easy must start yeah sort of okay not gonna sweat or highest ceiling of any quarterback the running backs what do you think hyden duke no preferred duke but don't want to start either preferred duke and ppr hyden non-ppr not really interested in starting either one yeah i mean if they don't win this game, it's probably not going to be good for Hyde. He doesn't do well in their losses.

Now for Johnson, for Duke Johnson, you look at his receiving totals in his last six games. In four of those six games, we're talking four more catches, 33 or more yards, two touchdowns. He's had two total duds, but he's starting to become a little bit more of a consistent PPR threat.

You know, like, let's elaborate a little bit on duke johnson i guess is what i'm saying and the titans allow the flex and ppr most receiving yards to running backs flex and ppr flex and ppr um i would still like i'd rather start odell over him in ppr yeah um but i would start him over terry mclaurin and i might be alone. Yeah. But I would start him over Terry McLaurin. I might be alone on that one, but I'd start him over Tyler Boyd for sure.

He's a flex. Okay. DeAndre Hopkins are starting. How about Will Fuller if he plays? He'd be just behind that Sutton group. Yeah.

Boom bust number three. But I'd like his chances because that Titans secondary is so beat up. There are so many guys there that I think, and I think Houston could trail in this game and that would help Fuller out. The only thing would be is, would he be able to finish the game?

You know, because is he coming back just because it's a huge division game? Is he rushing back? We saw the last time he played, he was pulling at his hamstring. He finished that game, but we haven't seen him since. I'm trying to figure out if this Titans defense is good.

I mean, they're ninth in scoring defense. They're 19th in total yards. They're 16th in yards per play. They seem very average or slightly above average. They struggle against tight ends. They're pretty good against the run. But also, as Dave mentioned, their secondary is beat up, and this will be a real test for them. And Will Fuller,

I mean, you think about this. Will Fuller, if he catches those touchdowns against Kansas City, then we're talking about him being amazing for three straight games, and then bad against the Patriots, but he had a long touchdown overturn. We're basically talking about never even thinking about sitting Will Fuller, I think.

So, I guess what I'm asking is Will Fuller or A.J. Brown? A.J. Brown. Which universe are we in? Are we in a universe where all the touchdowns didn't count or all of them did? Look, he gets open. He's really good. I think he is really good, yes.

But I'm saying in that other universe, I was getting pretty excited about starting Will Fuller for just a second there. If he didn't get hurt and drop passes and have touchdowns called back, it'd be awesome. But you see the potential. All right, AJ Brown. If you were going to gamble on a tight end, because both teams kind of struggle against tight ends here. Darren Fels, Jordan Aikens, Jonu Smith, who would it be? Jonu.

I'd go Aikens. Jonu. I thought maybe you'd just say Fels to have fun with it. That would have been better if you just said Fels. Yeah, but who wants to start him? He catches touchdowns. At one point, he was the touchdown leader in tight ends. Eight tight ends have caught a touchdown against Tennessee,

and four of them have done it before. Aikens had nine targets last week. Which means it's a Fels week coming up. It could be. Okay, sit them and sit the DSTs in this game. Minnesota's at the Chargers. Very much looking forward to this game. So I don't know that we have to get into Kirk Cousins again.

Heath and Jamie have him 24th. Dave has Kirk Cousins 12th. We heard the arguments. It's not a good matchup, but he's done well in some good matchups. So if you want to rewind to the players we love, I think that was in. Dave mentioned Kirk Cousins. Dalvin Cook start. And Alexander Madison.

Any interest in him if he plays? He's going to look great on the bench. Yep. Okay. Well, he did have a lot of work last week, but I think it was... I still don't want to drop him. That's super.

He's going to look great on my bench. See, you said on your bench this time, but the first time you said he's's gonna look great on my bench see what you said on your bench this time but the first time you said he's gonna look great on the bench which made me think that he wasn't gonna play much yeah i think he probably stays standing up most of the time because he kind of rotates in and out if he's all the way over on the bench you might not even hear the coach tell him to go in i was referring to my fantasy team's bench and not the actual bench that's where amir abdul is how do we go about the minnesota wide receivers here because digs you know is actually a little bit different in the rankings i think dave has him like 24th and heath and jamie have digs around 10th or 12th but you don't have feeling right yet

so so you're like that's so funny to me because they don't like cousins and i like cousins and they've got digs as a top 12 how do you think a cousin is getting and i don't know because i think he's just gonna say he does what he always does rudolph maybe it could be for rudolph maybe it could be for bc johnson look kirk has used everybody he's had big games without digs doing well before yeah dalvin cook gets i wonder though has he and i'm not i'm not saying i know the answer to this. I don't want to get azered. I wonder if he's had any good games this season without Adam Thielen where Stephon Diggs has also been bad. Like the Chiefs game is what I can think of.

He's had like three of them. Yes, he has for sure. Cowboys game? Did Diggs have a big game there? I'm looking. Because that was like two touchdowns for Kyle Rudolph. He had 23 PPR points in week 11. Week 11 against Denver, Diggs had five for 121 with a touchdown.

The week before that was Dallas. He had seven PPR points. And that was Kyle Rudolph had two touchdowns. Kansas City, Dallas, and Seattle. Kirk Cousins did well against all three of those teams. Stephon Diggs did not have 50 yards in any of those games, nor did he score a touchdown. Yeah.

Dillon didn't play in any of those? I'm going to move Diggs up. Dillon did not play in any of those. If nor did he score a touchdown. Phelan didn't play in any of those? I'm going to move Diggs up. Phelan did not play in any of those. If he did, he played a snap against Kansas City, but no, he basically didn't play against them. Diggs will move down if Phelan plays. If Phelan stays out, this is where Diggs will be for me. I would still prefer

Diggs over Phelan. I just think you have to worry about Phelan with how many snaps he'll play. Again, this is the perfect trap game for the Vikings. They have the Packers and the Bears to close the season, and this is a game, I know the crowd take that for what it's worth, it's still a road game for them where they have to get on a plane and travel.

And so, the Chargers right now are one of those teams you don't want to play, because they're finally getting healthy, and their defense is going to be good, and I think it's going to be a tough game for this Vikings offense all the way around. I think Thielen and Fuller are probably the two biggest I'm worried they're going to be good and i think it's going to be a tough game for this vikings offense all the way around i think theolin and fuller are probably the two biggest i'm worried they're going to come back and leave in the first quarter guys because like theolin has practiced several times over the last few weeks and then has a setback you can't get through multiple days of practice in a row how's he going to get through four quarters you throw

juju in there too probably yeah juju too right so and also like keep in mind the chargers are really good they give up the fourth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. There have been two receivers in their last eight games with more than seven non-PPR or 12 PPR fantasy points. They were Corey Davis, of course, and Cortland Sutton. So we've seen some good – DeAndre Hopkins, Alan Robinson, Devontae Adams had less than 70 yards. Tyreek Hill got hurt. DJ

Chark was okay. We've seen good receivers struggle against the Chargers. That's my point, I guess. Kyle Rudolph, starter or sit? It's the same thing. If Thielen plays, it's an easy sit. If Thielen doesn't play, then he's a borderline starter. I'm probably going to sit him

either way. I know he scored a bunch of touchdowns, but it ended last week. I'm going to pretend like it doesn't exist. I think you're right. It's probably going to sit him either way. I know he scored a bunch of touchdowns, but it ended last week. I'm going to pretend like it doesn't exist. I think you're right. It's probably better to sit him just because there's so many better options out there. You don't have to start Kyle Rudolph, but he clearly is in a better spot if Thielen is out again. I feel better about

Ian Thomas. I feel better about Dallas Goddard. Thomas could be if Olsen plays. If Olsen comes back, then obviously it stinks. OJ Howard, who I haven't liked this year. Oh, I like Howard better too. They're back-to-back with Howard on top. Philip Rivers, 73% owned. It's been better

the last two games. 20 points at Denver, 30 points at Jacksonville. He's not dead yet. He's the best quarterback in this game this week for fantasy. No, he's not. But he'll be okay. He'll be better than the Cousins. I think he's the best quarterback in this game as well for fantasy. No, he's not. He will be. But he'll be okay. He'll be better than the Cousins. I think he's the best quarterback in this game as well, but I would also...

Do I have to bet against Philip Rivers for Jamie? Do a bet. Yes. Loser shaves their head. I don't want to shave my head. I think that would be fantastic. Loser shaves their head.

I'm into that. Yep, yep. I think that's great. You're going to shave your head? Yeah, I am. Why? Why not? Look at this beautiful do that you have.

No, Dave, don't. He's already committed to it. I'm already halfway shaved, so it doesn't matter. I have that much faith in Phillip Rivers. Rivers versus Cousins. I'm not going to do it for a shave to shave my head. Nobody's shaving their head. I can't.

Let's be honest. You could do the same bet that Adam and I did. 15 pushups? We've done that before. No, it's not 15 pushups. It's the number of pushups the top quarterback scores. Sure. So if Rivers scores 38, you've got to do 38

push-ups easy and if cousins oh it's between those two right yeah yeah i'm in and it's gotta be on video i'm in okay all right awesome this is the first time i think i actually like rivers the most i would start him over ryan over goff over baker mayfield interesting um i don't love him he's not a top 12 guy for me, but I would start him over those guys. How about Aaron Rodgers or Phillip Rivers? I'm starting David Blau over Phillip Rivers now. I have Rivers and Rodgers

projected for the exact same score. I like Rodgers better. Can we talk about the Chargers running backs here? Start them both. In non-PPR, we start in Eckler? Yes, start them both. Okay. How about... Gosh, tough to call. Would you in Eckler? Yes, start them both. Okay. How about...

Gosh, tough to call. Would you start Eckler or DeAndre Washington if Jacobs is out? I would start Eckler in PPR, and I would start Washington in non-PPR. Yep. And I would start Washington over Gordon in both. And I would start Eckler over Gordon in both. Chargers wide receivers, start or sit? You start Keenan Allen, and Williams is a flex.

But I like Williams more than normal, just because of the deep shots that he gets. I'm going to lose this bet. The deep shots that he tends to get from week to week. Because you're realizing that Cousins is a bad spot. I'm riding with Cousins. I'm going to die on this hill. But I do like Mike Williams this week to like, as a fan dual play for sure. And a sneaky non PPR flex, because I think he can make some deep connections against the Viking.

Yeah. Vikings stink against receivers. They've given up a hundred yards or a touchdown to 17 wide receivers in 13 games. Keenan Allen, Keenan Allen over Courtland Sutton. Yeah. Oh yeah. Keenan Allen over Williams. How about Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen over Cortland Sutton? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Keenan Allen. But Sutton over Williams. How about Keenan Allen? Rank the wide receivers in this game. Let's say Thielen plays. So we got two from the Vikings, two from the Chargers. Allen, Diggs, Thielen, Williams.

Yeah. The first two for sure. I might take Williams over Thielen in non-PPR. You love Phillip Rivers over Cousins. You're talking to yourself, but this is not going to end well. So let me just be sure that I know what I'm getting myself into. Can I cancel this?

No. It's in writing. It's the number of fantasy points Rivers scores. That's how many push-ups I'm going to have to do. Unless Cousins scores more. Okay. And if it's a tie, we both have to do it. Yes. So whoever...

And it's not decimal scoring. Whoever wins, the other person doesn't have to do... The winner does not have to do push-ups? Correct. No push-ups at all. Okay. And it's not Philip Rivers scores 30. If Philip Rivers scores 30, I'm doing 30. 30 push-ups. And if it's not... What is difficult about this?

We'll tell you what to do. I didn't know if we both have to do push-ups. What is difficult about this? We'll tell you what to do. I didn't know if we both have to do push-ups. If it's 30 to 15, am I doing 15? No. Okay, come on. No, no. I didn't know if I have to do the lesser of the two because I know I'm winning this one.

Hi, Adam. Let's go back to why he goes wrong. Any tight ends? Who's the commissioner? I think we should start Hunter Henry. Who's the commissioner of the NFL? Hey, would you stream any tight ends over Hunter Henry? Who's been kind of uninvolved the last two weeks. Higby. Higby.

Is Higby even a streamer anymore? He's a stud. I would start Henry over Higby. How about Doyle or Henry? Henry. Henry. Henry. All right. Minnesota's DST is sixth and fifth for Dave and Heath,

14th for Jamie. Chargers DST is kind of a sit. Does Adam Silver have commissioner access? Cleveland's at Arizona, and Baker Mayfield we've discussed. He's 17th for Jamie. Wait, do we talk about Gordon? Melvin?

Commissioner Gordon? Commissioner Gordon. Co-commissioner Gordon, you mean? Sorry, Adam. I'm done. Cleveland's at Arizona, and Baker Mayfield not ranked for Heath. 17th for Jamie, 11th for Dave. Very different there, and we talked about that earlier in the show.

Hell hath no fury like a Baker Mayfield scorned. He's going to beat up on Kingsbury. If he had the ability to play good at quarterback, why hasn't he done it all year? Because he hasn't played Arizona every week. Because he's had tough matchups. My fear last week, and I wonder if it's going to carry over,

I think they want Freddie gone. I don't think they're throwing games by any stretch. This just feels like such a disaster, This whole team, this whole season, you have big, you have Beckham going through the motions of, uh, playing through this groin injury. Who knows if he's going to be able to play four quarters. Again, I could see Baker having a top five performance. I see why Dave likes him. I totally get it. I just can't trust him. I honestly just don't feel like I'm going into, if I got by last week with Baker on my lineup, I'm looking for Carr. I'm looking for Eli. I'm looking for somebody who's at

least seeming like they're playing better right now and has just as good a matchup. It's kind of like a bowl game where two teams are fairly evenly matched, but one of them is excited to be there because they play in Conference USA or something. One of them thought they were going to be in the BCS and they lost their last three games.

Miami played FIU? Like when Miami played FIU, except that wasn't a bowl game. But yeah. But it was a rivalry game. Well, I don't know if it's much of a rivalry anymore after they beat them. I think FIU's just better. True. So let's talk about the Cleveland running backs.

Nick Chubb. We couldn't see his face. They took him off camera for a reason. He probably was giving us the double bird. Nick Chubb, in his last seven games, is actually the number 15 running back in non-PPR. We couldn't see his face. They took him off camera for a reason. He probably was giving us the double bird. Nick Chubb in his last seven games is actually the number 15 running back in non-PPR and number 24 in PPR. So he's been good. He just has not been scoring touchdowns.

He's still averaging 4.8 yards per carry, but it's weird. His PPR finish in his last six weeks, outside the top 24 four times, outside the top 12 six times in seven games. That's Nick Chubb. Kareem Hunt, meanwhile, he is the number 22 running back in non-PPR, number 17 in PPR per game since he has returned, since he's played five games. And I think they've scored basically the same amount of fantasy points in PPR in those five games.

Chubb and Hunt. In all honesty, this is part of the reason why I'm worried about Baker as well, just because they lean on their running back so much. But they catch passes too, at least in the case. I mean, they're obviously going to catch passes, but I just think, you know, you see they're trying to run in the red zone. You know, they're not giving Baker

a lot of opportunities at the goal line. You know, remember that was such a problem for them earlier this season. They had a couple of games where they schemed up Jarvis Landry well. I think it's just that you can run on the Cardinals too. As bad as their pass defense is, their run defense isn't great. This is just very similar for me to the Chargers running backs.

You're just starting both of them. Over the last three weeks in PPR, Chubbs number 11, Hunt is number 12. I'm just starting both of them and not really thinking about it. Okay. Chubbs had one really good game, I think. He hates what I just did with those splits. Well, yeah, because I think mine are better. I'm going back six, seven weeks with him.

Heath was wrong. What does Gary Bettman think? Oh, my gosh. So not funny. So Jarvis Landry is a must start. And Odell Beckham, look, I made the case. If you get six targets since Cardinals, you do well. He did horribly against the Bengals last week.

He's obviously playing hurt. But I feel like he's been playing hurt all year. So is he just more hurt now? I don't know. But you guys said he's like about 24, 20, something like that. He's a number two wide receiver. Most people that have gotten this far with Odell Beckham are not going to sit him when he's playing the Cardinals. But I don't think it's a slam

dunk across the board that you should feel he's better than Zach Paschal, that he's better than A.J. Brown, that he's better than Anthony Miller, that he's better than D.D. Westbrook. It's just not a slam dunk. I think those guys all have arguments to be made to be better than him in those situations. I think you like the Dolphins

guys better than him, right? I've got Isaiah Ford really close to him. Yeah. Parker's out. That just kind of shows you that, you know, where Beckham is, that that's even a scenario. Now, again, most people are not going to bench him. Totally get it. If you got this far, the Cardinals, this is the layup. Hopefully he makes the layup. LeBron's not chasing him now. I will just say, like, we are giving him a lot of credit for being Odell Beckham by where we have him ranked. If this was another wide receiver that was number 40 for the season, and this was Robbie Anderson,

and it scored 10 points in his last two games combined, he'd be in Tyler Boyd range. Okay, but yeah, I mean, but Deontay Johnson had six catches, 60 yards, and a touchdown last week. You know, it's just, it's also the matchup. David Njoku. Deontay Johnson has a better quarterback. yards, and a touchdown last week. You know, it's also the matchup. David Njoku. Well, I mean, Deontay Johnson has a better quarterback. Yeah, unfortunately, James Washington got nothing,

but it was Deontay Johnson. That's not true, by the way. David Njoku is 15th to 17th in the rankings in non-PPR, 16th to 18th in PPR. He's also a little banged up. You know what the deal. Cardinals give up points to tight ends, and we don't really trust Njoku.

Starter said Kyler Murray. He's kind of interesting. Dave's got really trust Njoku. Starter said Kyler Murray. He's kind of interesting. Dave's got him as a sit. Heath and Jamie like Kyler Murray. Talk about it. I just think this is a free Kyler Murray game. I would imagine that if Baker Mayfield's looking at it as I want to stick it to Cliff Kingsbury,

wouldn't Kingsbury want to stick it to Baker Mayfield with the guy that he has that fits his system better than Baker Mayfield did. I think Kyler Murray's got a great opportunity here to go out and run around a little bit. We haven't seen him run the last two weeks. Last home game in Arizona for the season. I like the setup for him. I just don't think this Browns defense is very good.

I also don't think they want to make this road trip. So I always like these scenarios when these teams that are out of it have to make these longish trips that they don't tend to play well. And I just feel the way about Kyler that you do about Baker. Could totally see him having a big game. We just haven't seen it from him lately. Tough to trust him at this point in the year. But yeah, I mean, the Browns defense isn't anything special at all. Yeah, seven of the last 10 quarterbacks to face the Browns have scored 19 or more fantasy points.

That's a nice floor there. And two of the three that didn't were Steelers guys, right? Yep. And Dalton. So basically, that's it. Those are the only ones who've had bad games recently against Cleveland. The Arizona running backs, I think we talked about Kenyon Drake. He's made a nice case for Kenyon Drake.

Dave and Jamie have him. More as a sit. You're going to start Kareem Hunt over Kenyon Drake? Yes. Yes? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. And maybe not.

Yeah. It's going to be closer for you. Would you start Kenyon Drake or Odell Beckham? Drake. Drake. Odell. Do you have any interest in a Cardinals wide receiver? Yeah.

I like Christian Kirk. It's just so hard to trust him. I know last week was good, but we've seen it before from him where he's great one week and then totally suck in the next. It was two games ago. I like him more in PPR. It's obviously

a PPR, non-PPR thing. The catches are key for him and the fact that he had eight catches last week was fantastic and a very tough matchup against Pittsburgh. Now we've seen more inside receivers duel against the Steelers over the course of the season, but I just think this Browns defense is not good. The secondary isn't great. He's a, I think, 6 for 70 type of guy.

If he scores, you'll love it. If he doesn't, then you kind of know what you're getting. I like him better than Beckham and PPR. I don't. I'll take Beckham. He had 16 PPR points last week. He had five the week before, 10 the game before that, and then before that was the monster, 37 PPR.

So total grab bag where you're going with Christian Kirk. Okay. Let's go on to our next game. Colts and the Saints. Jacoby Brissett, interesting case to be made for him. He's 16th to 20th in the rankings. And, you know, I liked him better when the defensive line was healthy. I thought maybe they wouldn't be able to run the ball, but now things change.

When they can run the ball, he doesn't throw as much, obviously. So, okay. Phil Rivers or Jacoby Brissett? Brissett. Rivers. I have Rivers over Brissett. How about Eli Manning or Jacoby Brissett. Brissett. Rivers. I have Rivers over Brissett. How about Eli Manning or Jacoby Brissett? Eli.

Eli. The one that's playing the Dolphins. Okay. You're probably going to sit Jacoby Brissett. Yeah. I think this is a classic Saints primetime game opponent is chasing points and ends up. They're going to try and run early, and I think Mack will have some success early, up they're going to try and run early and i think mac will have some success early but they're going to be behind and i think percet as we saw last week in

it and last week was the first time he actually looked healthy you know since the knee injury he was that's a little bit better um i i obviously ty hilton i'm sure is going to swing it for you know how you would view percet if we find out that ty is able to practice friday and saturday and is good to go but i i just think you're kind of seeing a Saints defense that is really, really beat up. Pass rush isn't going to be an issue for him. So I think you're going to see Brissette have an opportunity to get 20-plus points this week.

He had 20-plus points last week. He had 16 or fewer in the five games prior. Yeah, and again, I don't think he was 100% healthy, plus he's facing a defense that I think could be very similar. Tampa Bay's defense is bad, and I think the Saints' defense is trending that way. Who's a better flex, Marlon Mack or Zach Paschal?

Paschal, PPR. If Hilton plays, it's going to be Mack. If Hilton plays, it's Mack. If Hilton doesn't, it's Paschal for me in both. It's Mack for me in non-PPR and Paschal in PPR. Yeah, I'm starting Paschal. I mean, you need a lot of targets typically to do well against the

Saints, but they see a lot of targets. Fifth most fantasy points to wide receivers, seventh most targets from wide receivers, and Drew Brees is just unbelievable in primetime. He is going to score a lot of points, and Zach Paschal's had 19 targets in his last two games. So he's a top 20 wide receiver right now in the rankings, and 25th for Heath in P and ppr but you know obviously

things would change if ty hilton plays so keep that in mind and jack doyle is top 12 you can start jack doyle but you're going to start tyler higby over him would you start jack doyle or ian thomas if greg olson is out thomas i'll take thomas okay great and let's go over to these saints you basically like lamar jackson might be the only quarterback to start over start drew breeze he's top five for everyone he's second for jamie's third for dave start drew breeze he's gonna be awesome uh alvin camara so heath already weighed in a little bit on camara is anybody have any thought to sitting him in non-ppr i think if you have only two running backs and you have carson and you picked up deandre Kamara. Does anybody have any thought to sitting him in non-PPR?

I think if you have only two running backs and you have Carson and you picked up DeAndre Washington, I would say Daman Kamara. I'm with you on that. And I thought Latavius Murray looked better last week. I thought he played, I think he was more explosive and looked better. And I wonder if

the Saints coaches see that and they give murray more carries and camara more of a role in the passing game i think he's been a more efficient runner since camara came back from injury yeah oh i don't know i'm not saying i'm not saying i think murray is better i will look up those numbers look that might be the case but that's that doesn't that almost sounds like camara hasn't been efficient. And before last game, he was averaging more yards per carry this year than he was last year. So he's been very good. He just hasn't scored. Now, last week was just a straight up bad game for Alvin Kamara. But before

that, the storyline was on pace for more total yards than he had last year, just on pace for four touchdowns. So it's not a good matchup as i mentioned the colts do not give a big game to running backs but camara had been playing really really well until last week no it's true look at per touch he had one game with double digit non-ppr point i get it but we're talking fantasy sure but i i think you know at some point he's going to find the end zone we saw with robert woods we saw mike williams I think at some point he's going to find the end zone. We saw it with Robert Woods. We saw it with Mike Williams.

The last thing you're going to do, it's the same thing with Beckham when you're facing the Cardinals if you make it here. You're not benching Alvin Kamara in a primetime home game. Exactly. I mean, you'd be crazy to do that. Now, forget about how it's ranked. Forget about how we have it ranked.

We just saw the graphic if you're watching this on the YouTube page. He's 90% started. The 3% of people that are benching Alvin Kamara probably haven't changed their lineups from when he was out, and their fantasy league, they weren't paying attention to him. You're starting Alvin Kamara if you made it to the semifinals of your fantasy league. Okay. So Jared Cook, if he plays, you start him? Must start guy?

Yes. Yes. Sort of. Michael Thomas, we're starting. Any interest in either Josh Hill or Ted Gann or Traquan Smith, who's actually, Traquan Smith has had a touchdown catch in three of four home games that he has played with Drew Brees. How about that?

Neato. Mm-hmm. No. Go down on DFS. I have Josh Hill ranked as a top 16 tight end. Without Cook. Because we don't have Jared Cook ranked. Right.

So, like, is's a possibility you could stream yeah if you know 14 team league 16 team league and none of these guys were available thomas or higby obviously um uh oj howard wasn't you know was picked up or held on to you know this is a a good pivot play not a safe one but a good one just given what the the offense has looked like for new orleans with the tight end this year jack Jacksonville at Oakland, the Jaguars have lost five straight games by 17 or more fantasy points. And, you know, we talk about Alvin Kamara not being so great in fantasy lately. Nick Chubb's been disappointing. Leonard Fournette has also been a little bit disappointing, except for one huge game.

We'll get to him in a second. But, Heath, you still have Gardner Minschu as a top 12 quarterback huh i have dropped him down a little bit he is now 17th um still ahead of baker mayfield jared goff matt ryan those guys carson wince uh this one i don't get i i don't see much difference right now forget about the season right now between gardner minchu and Baker Mayfield and the two matchups that they have in front of them. Well, I don't – like right now, Gardner Minshew has had a bad two-game stretch since – two-game stretch in terms of fantasy points. I don't know how far back we want to go in terms of their fantasy production, but when – Baker Mayfield's had one good game in the last month.

It's three games for Minshew. I mean, he was so bad he got benched. And then he came back and he's been bad twice. And now he's going to play without Charles. His most recent game was just a half. The second most recent game was just a half. Fair. So it's two games.

Third most recent game. No. He's started two games, hasn't he? Okay. Yeah. Maybe he's been just as bad as Baker Mayfield. Good half, bad, bad. Did he start against Tampa Bay?

I think he did. Yes. Yes. And then he started against the chargers. Yes. Okay. And now he's starting against the Raiders without DJ chart. I,

you know, game that means something to look, people aren't going to start Gardner Minshew. He's 23%. Oh, and so let's, let's move on. Any hesitation at all with Leonard for net?

No. It's the same like Kamara for me. I would start Deandre Washington over him in non-PPR. Right. You just hate if Jacob's out. You hate the single-digit numbers that you see four of his last five games before net non-PPR. Yeah.

Because they're getting blown out. I mean, they're so bad, and they're getting blown out. All right. It's really funny because I was on the Pick 6 podcast yesterday with Will, and he is terrified of the Raiders in this game because the Jags have lost, what, four games in a row by 17 points? And if they're at home in their last game in Oakland, and that number's stuck at 6.5.

Mm-hmm. And, like— I get it. Like, it seems like Oakland should just blow them out, but I think Oakland's really, really bad, too. Yeah, they are. It's hard to trust Oakland laying any out, but I think Oakland's really, really bad too. Yeah, they are. It's hard to trust Oakland laying any points, much less almost a touchdown. And I don't really see a situation where if they are really fired up and get a two-score lead in the first half,

where that defense is going to hold a team down for a whole second half of garbage. Unless that team makes mistakes. I could see Minshew doing okay and Fournette doing okay because the Raiders are so bad. But your faith in Minshew just is— He's 17. That's not faith. Well, now you've changed it. That makes a little bit more sense.

But I think the situation with Baker and Minshew is somewhat similar because struggling quarterbacks, playing bad teams on the road. If he had Chark, I'd be all on board with Minshew over Baker. But the fact that he doesn't have his best receiver, and we've seen Westbrook up and down, we've seen Conley up and down. Maybe they found a guy in Nick O'Leary. Nick O'Leary. The Raiders stink against tight ends. But we're starting Didi, right?

Oh, I think you should, 100%. But it's just a matter of like, I think there's a slight higher ceiling for Baker just because Minshew just feels like he's a little bit lost. Okay, yeah, so we've got to talk about D.D. Westbrook here. And by the way, if you want to be optimistic about Fournette, I'll tell you this. In their last 10 games, the Raiders have allowed 33 or more receiving yards to eight running backs and a receiving touchdown to six running backs. So he could do well there.

And if you get 15 carries against the Raiders, you pretty much always have a good game. Now, D.D. Westbrook, only 64% owned. You can still pick him up. I want to be optimistic about him. I like him. I love the setup. Raiders are so bad against wide receivers. They give up the seventh most points.

D.D. Westbrook is having such a bad year. He's averaging like 10.5 yards per catch. He's not doing enough with his targets. He has a worse catch rate with Minshew than he did with Foles. So how much faith should we have, assuming Chark is out? PPR is a flex. He's a flex. Okay. Would you start Didi, Westbrook, or let's say Kareem Hunt?

Hunt. Hunt. But I'd start Westbrook over Beckham. I would not. Okay. Westbrook or Beckham. I would not. Okay, Westbrook or Kirk? Kirk. Didi. I think I have Didi ranked ahead of Kirk right now,

but they're kind of the same. I feel like there's a much better chance of Didi getting the targets than Kirk. If you're in a 35-team league, you can look at Nick O'Leary. Oakland allows the second-most fantasy points to tight ends. Derek Carr going over to the Raiders. 68% owned, still available. 12th, 19th, and 15th in the rankings for Jamie, Dave, and Heath. Derek Carr is an option this week.

He's been good at home with good matchups and good weather, basically. 21 or more fantasy points in four of his last five good weather games. So, yeah, he's an option. Aaron Rodgers or Derek Carr? Carr. Rodgers. I've got to look. I'm actually doing that in our FFT league,

playing Derek Carr over Aaron Rodgers. I mean, it's gutsy. I'll give you that. Carr over Rodgers. Eli or Carr? Eli. Eli. Carr.

I don't think we have to say much more about the running backs, but if Jacobs plays, start or sit either of them? Start Jacobs. Start Jacobs. Forget about it. Keep Washington on your bench for a week. If you don't have Washington, is if we don't get a report on Sunday morning,

because it is a 425 game. I think after Chris Towers tweeting at Ian Rappaport, he's aware that we're pending. We need it, so Ian's going to pull through for us. Well, thank you. So here's the thing. Let's say Josh Jacobs were just completely healthy and DeAndre Washington weren't in the picture.

I could see Jacobs being a top five running back this week. I said that to Heath yesterday. I said if this was Jacobs all along, he'd be my top three. So where would he be if he plays? Top ten. Yes. It also depends how the next two days go because if it goes like Dalvin Cook where he's a full participant and isn't even on the injury report,

then he's probably a top five running back. He was limited on Wednesday? If he's limited on Friday and questionable Sunday morning, he's probably like 15th for me. Okay, we talked about Tyra Williams earlier. You can take a flyer on him. He's risky, though, and Jacksonville's allowed seven touchdowns to tight ends in their last nine games,

so that's good for Darren Waller. All right, and by the way, the Raiders' defense is interesting because five straight DSTs have had good games against the Jaguars. Two of them have been great, and if you follow that storyline and you think they might just blow them out and go out with a bang, it could be fun.

Chris Conley. Yes. Good deep flex if you need him. All right. Guys. DFS tournament play too. Let's get through two more games here if we can in the next five minutes.

Patriots at Bengals. It's the start of the game. Cincinnati sees the second fewest pass attempts in the NFL, but allows the third most yards per attempt. And now here comes Tom Brady, who leads the NFL in pass attempts. So Brady versus Carr versus Minshew versus Rivers versus Cousins versus Eli. Start or sit Tom Brady? He's toward the bottom of that group for me.

No trust. Yeah. I mean, the last two weeks have been very weird okay against houston he needs garbage time to get to 20 plus fantasy points and then against kansas city he should have had 20 fantasy points but the refs kind of missed that call for Nikhil Harry's touchdown. They couldn't challenge it, but I don't like his completion rate. He's been under 56% four straight games. He's been above 20 fantasy points once in his past five. And I know this sounds weird, but the Bengals defense has started to play a little bit better. And the offensive line is a problem for new England. And the lack of reliable receivers is a problem for tom brady so i'm i i'm out on brady this week i can't trust him okay and and you can't trust sony michelle and james white is a fine ppr flex would you start

james white or dd westbrook white white and i we i think we view white mostly as a start in PPR, right? I think Brady's in that same category of not being able to trust him. If he does have a good game, I wouldn't be surprised. If he has another mediocre game, I wouldn't be surprised. I don't think he's going to stink. I don't think he's going to go for 12

fantasy points. I would say 16 to 20 is kind of the range for him. Sportsline has him 7. That's going to go for 12 fantasy points, but I think you're talking I would say 16 to 20 is kind of the range for him. I don't think it's like Sportsline has him seven. That's going to be either a bad week for quarterbacks or he's going to have one of his best games and we just haven't seen that from him. We haven't seen it on the road. This could be a game where we get a

pick six or some turnover for the Patriots DST. You know, I think this is a grind out game for the Patriots. They get their win and they go home. I think you guys are overrating James White a little bit. He's been pretty lousy. Because he's been pretty lousy. Basically since the Sanu trade, and I can't

really chalk it up to Sanu anymore because he's not getting targeted. He's been good the last two weeks, right? When you say lousy, he had a monster game against the Texans. Yeah, because they were playing way behind. He had 14 carries in that game, and he got almost all of his production in the... Well, that's not true, but he got a lot of it in the fourth quarter.

But he just hasn't been... He's been a dud. 11 fantasy points in PPR, it seems like 14 is usually his ceiling. 11 fantasy points in PPR without scoring a touchdown is a good indicator. Because he doesn't really score touchdowns. If you score 11 fantasy points in yardage and catches every week,

you're going to be a... He hasn't done that. He hasn't done that anymore, though. You just asked us, D.D. Westbrook versus James White. We said White, and you're making it seem as if we said we're starting him over

the best receiver in football. I mean, that's the scenario of where James White is and where D.D. Westbrook is. I think it's a fair comparison. I wasn't trying to make a case for Westbrook, but I understand why it sounded that way. But yes. No, no, but what I'm saying is that that's a fair comparison. I wasn't trying to make a case for Westbrook, but I understand why it sounded that way. What I'm saying is that that's a fair comparison.

You're talking about the number one receiver for Jacksonville in a great matchup, assuming Chark is out, versus a PPR running back that doesn't give you guaranteed huge production. He gives you a pretty decent floor if you look at what his track record has been over the course of the season. I think this is

the floor versus ceiling play. Could Westbrook have a better game? That type of receiver? Christian Kirk? Odell Beckham? You know, the receivers that we've been talking about? Carlton Sutton? Absolutely.

But the floor is probably safer for James White. And there's also the scenario of, Heath alluded to this, maybe the Patriots realize we've got to put our best players on the field at all costs and stop babying James White and just putting him in passing down situations and occasionally trying to fool people when we're running. Let him be the guy that runs between the tackles. He's better than Sonny Michel. Yeah, but we haven't seen that from them in like four years. Agreed.

We also haven't seen this bad on offense from New England in four years too. So they got to be a little creative and do some things. They did it last week when Edelman had the pass. They're not scoring at the same level. They got to do something different and maybe that's what they're going to do different. Okay, start Edelman, sit everyone else. Dalton, well, Mixon's an option.

Would you go with Mixon or James White in PPR? White. Mixon. Yeah, Mixon. I mean, Mixon has had nothing but tough matchups lately, and he's been pretty good in just about all of them. So, you know. 16 or more PPR points in five of his past six. That's been pretty good in just about all of them. 16 or more PPR points in five of his

past six. It's a tough matchup though. I mean, I'm not overlooking this, but I think he can still find some good numbers. Alrighty. Sid Tyler Boyd and Patriots DST back in business, baby. They are top four. Let's get going here.

We need a big game from them. One more game. We'll save Denver and kansas city for tomorrow one more game that is just buffalo at pittsburgh and honestly i think we've covered a lot of this sit josh allen and uh devin singletary's you know in the james white area right yep in non-ppr and ppr is a pretty big difference really for me but he might only but like no i'd start singletary over white i would start in non-PPR. In PPR, there's a pretty big difference. Really? For me. But he might only, but like, no,

I'd start Singletary over White. I would start Singletary over White too. I mean, six catches last week. It's not like he was, oh, they didn't use him.

Kudos to Buffalo for giving him more play. I just don't trust they're going to use him at the goal line. Well, I think,

you know, just a similar matchup. You know, aggressive defense that you have to sort of negate the pass rush a little bit. Josh Allen trying to get

the ball out of his hands. I would be surprised if they did something dramatically different. All right, we talked about John Brown. Heath likes him more than Dave and Jamie. Dave and Jamie have Brown as a three receiver, number three. Heath has him as a number two, low end. Cole Beasley's a flex,

but basically the same as John Brown in the rankings for Dave and Jamie. And what else in this game? James Conner, yeah, he's what? He's like 20th or so? Kings for Dave and Jamie. And what else in this game? James Connor. Yeah, he's what? He's like 20th or so? Low end number two. He is for me. I've got him closer to 30.

I don't have a great idea of how many touches he's going to get. I don't think it goes back to what it was when it used to be just one guy gets 20 touches per game. But he might get 15-ish. And this is maybe the lowest scoring game of the year, according to Las Vegas. Yeah, it's 36 and a half. Yeah, I think they went back to Benny Snell after he fumbled last week,

but I wonder how much that sort of sticks in their minds of him losing the ball and now Conor coming back. And Samuels has sort of been a little bit up and down, and now he's banged up. So he may not play. If he's out, then I think it's easy to look at Conner because they're not going to throw the ball to Benny Snell. They haven't done that even with Conner out.

So I'm okay with Conner as a low-end starter. And we're just not going to know how effective he is until he plays, and that might just be how the Steelers take it, too. Practicing in full is such a great sign. I agree. That matters. Yeah, but you can't start James Conner and not be a little nervous. Of course. You should be nervous. nervous yeah it's not an easy one but that's why he's normally like

a top 15 type of a running back in this week he's not because of that he's only had more than i prefer i prefer him to joe mixon just to tell you how i feel about mixing yeah and i'd start me too which dst do you like better uh steelers it's a tough one i almost dropped the Steelers for the Bills but I looked at their game log and they have been amazing they're so good so start them both good DSTs this week and I think a lot of people saw Buffalo's first primetime game in uh you know 100 years fun fun yeah I think it's I'm looking forward to it because you just don't get to see I know it's gonna be low scoring and ugly but I still think it's gonna be a good close game you don't get to see matchups like this

in prime time i can appreciate it these two teams uh trying to get by with defense two two potential coaches of the year absolutely all right guys tomlin should be the coach here tomlin should be the coach of the year i it's a you can make for it. The fact that they're in playoff contention with this roster. Without Roethlisberger, Conor in and out, Juju Hurd. It's not a bad call. All right, guys. That's it for today's marathon. We'll have another one tomorrow.

Between him and Jason Garrett. Thanks, everyone. Or Roger Goodell, Gary Bettman, Rob Manfred. Yes, all the commissioners. Dave Heath, all the commissioners for podcasting. That's it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Or Roger Goodell, Gary Bettman, Rob Manfred. Yes, all the commissioners. Dave Heath, all the commissioners for the podcast. That's it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Goodbye.