Fantasy Football Today - 12/13: Start or Sit (NFC); How to Combat Lamar Jackson (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: December 13, 2019What do you do if you played against Lamar Jackson? Swing for the fences? Do nothing? Cry? We'll talk about NYJ-BAL to start the show and then give you some of our favorite Week 15 sleepers (8:00). Da...nny Amendola and Patrick Laird could be solid this week ... News and notes (12:00), some stats to know for Week 15 (18:15) including Aaron Rodgers' history against CHI and Matt Ryan's outdoor success, "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" (21:21) and Beat the Waiver Wire (23:25)! ... MIA-NYG (24:33), CHI-GB (34:25), ATL-SF (44:22), SEA-CAR (52:03), LAR-DAL (58:10), TB-DET (1:06:30), KC-DEN (1:10:40), PHI-WAS (1:14:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Please know Lamar Jackson.
Please know Lamar Jackson. Please know Lamar Jackson.
Tell me I didn't play against Lamar Jackson.
Oh, man!
I was facing Lamar Jackson last night.
Welcome to the show.
I'm sure a lot of you are feeling that pain,
or you're celebrating,
because you have the best player in fantasy.
What's going on, Dave and Jamie?
Happy Friday.
Three leagues.
Three leagues I'm facing Lamar Jackson in out of five.
Whoa, that's such
bad luck. And in one of them, it's just
the two quarterback league. I'm playing against Will Brinson.
His team is a monster. I have
no chance, no
shot of beating him. Another league where I'm
facing Lamar Jackson. It's a league I've won three
years in a row. I think
the streak is going to come to an end.
He's good. Yeah, I'm going against him in three and a half and two.
So I'm torn.
Okay, well, look, it's not necessarily over, but it's probably over.
And congratulations.
This is not a jinx.
You shouldn't be worried about this at all.
If you have Lamar Jackson, you definitely won.
You are moving on.
Congratulations.
Good job.
Baltimore 42 and the Jets 21.
We also have eight games to break down today.
A bunch of NFC home games plus Denver, Kansas City that we didn't get to yesterday.
We got some sleeper wide receivers to talk about.
Like the Tampa Bay Detroit game is littered with sleeper wide receivers potentially.
So we'll give you some of our favorite sleepers for week 15.
But we'll of course some of our favorite sleepers for Week 15, but we'll, of course, start with this
game.
We had
some better-than-expected offensive
production. Sam Darnold with 17
fantasy points and threw a couple
interceptions, had a fumble. Le'Veon Bell with
his best rushing game of the year.
Robbie Anderson was okay. He had a two-point
conversion catch, so he had eight points.
James Crowder was great.
Who saw that coming?
And then, of course, basically everybody was great for Baltimore.
So let's do this, though.
What do you do if you faced Lamar Jackson?
I don't like to change my lineup based on what happened on Thursday
because you could end up making a mistake that costs you
because you were looking for upside, whatever,
and you forgot about downside.
But I can understand if you want to tweak your lineup
to catch up to Lamar Jackson, who scored, what, four?
How many points did he score?
He scored 46 in six-point capacity touchdown leagues.
Amazing.
Yeah.
What did he do?
I'm in one where I'm such an underdog to begin with,
and so I kind of looked at it as I figured he'd be 30 points.
If he played great, this is clearly exceeding that.
I think he just kind of, you know, depending on what you need to,
like in the one league where I knew I was a heavy under,
I'm playing one of our FFT producers, Jack Capitordo.
And he's an overwhelming favorite.
So I'm playing Brashad Perryman
because my receiving choir lost DJ Chark and Marvin Jones.
So it's a three-receiver league.
If you need something like you think
is going to have to happen to hit some home runs,
you play a player like that.
A better version would be A.J. Brown, for example.
He could have a blowout game also.
But you need somebody that's going to have a surprise performance,
but to a degree that you can really sort of sway things a little bit more in your favor.
So it's that type of thing I think you look at if you're desperate.
Now, the other two leagues where I'm playing against Lamar Jackson,
one, I think I still have a chance with my lineup as is.
The other, I was the favorite. It's the Dynasty League that we share, Adam, which if we don't win this, I'm going to be really upset. Yeah, I think I still have a chance with my lineup as is. The other, I was the favorite.
It's the dynasty league that we share, Adam, which if we don't win this, I'm going to be
really upset. Yeah. Well, oh my gosh. But, uh, even despite Lamar, you know, on, on CBS sports.com,
if you look at the scoring, it gives you the projected totals who's still going to win.
Right. So even with Lamar Jackson's big game, we're still an overwhelming favorite. So, um,
like that, I'm not changing my, my lineup favorite. Like that, I'm not changing my lineup.
The other one, I'm not changing my lineup. The one where
I was already a heavy underdog,
I may look to try to go for another swing for the fence type
of guy. It's basically replacing anybody that
you don't see with a high ceiling on your
roster, and you do have an
alternative that does have a high ceiling.
So it's like replacing
Christian
Kirk with Will Fuller sure something like that
i'm gonna replace and i was gonna make this move anyway but this just solidified i'm gonna start
mitchell chubisky over josh allen because i you know i don't really love either one but i see
no chance very little chance for josh allen have those are your best options yeah it's unfortunate
but there's no there's no eli manning no oh no he, no. He got picked up. He got picked up. I also have Drew Locke.
It's a dynasty league.
A bunch of players.
Everybody's roster, basically.
But I think Trubisky has a chance to have a big game,
whereas Josh Allen against Pittsburgh really doesn't.
It's so hard to have a big game against Pittsburgh.
That's a go.
You do something like that.
All right.
Any other takeaways from this game?
Did you come away from it any more confident in starting a whole bunch of guys?
So, Darnold, Bell.
Oh, Bell's, you know,
he was 62% started, actually.
So, a lot of people sat him.
Bell had an empty game.
He really had an empty game.
That 62% probably also factors
in last week when he had the flu
and he missed the game
and those teams are limited,
whatever.
But, you know, Robbie Anderson,
Jamison Crowder,
even Marquise Brown, who had four catches, 41 yards and a touchdown like you're more confident in any any
of these guys going forward next week the jets have pittsburgh and the ravens yeah i was gonna
say like for the jets they have such a tough matchup but this would have been nice to have
no ryan griffin no demarius thomas to see what the Jets receivers can do with, you know,
better opportunities, you know, better target opportunities.
Now, it was a tough matchup, tough secondary.
I thought clearly both played well to what they did.
You know, Robbie Anderson just didn't have a touchdown or a big game, but, you know, he made some nice catches.
And, you know, Jameson Crowder, it's funny because the touchdown drop,
you thought, oh, my God, what a disaster.
And then he comes back with a tougher catch
to score on the first touchdown. The second one was a little
fluky, but
nice performance from him.
And Donald, you know,
played much better than I would have anticipated going against
the Ravens defense on the road on a short week.
So, you know, I think that's
more of a 2020 thing. You know, if he can
sort of get some better help,
better offensive line,
he's got a chance to be a decent fantasy quarterback.
Okay, so we'll get to that next week.
Mark Andrews was only started in 58% of leagues,
and I get it.
He was banged up,
and he had four catches, 52 yards, and a touchdown,
and he could have had over 100 yards and two touchdowns.
Lamar Jackson missed them on a big play.
Lamar Jackson stinks.
But that's it.
That's it for that game.
That team is amazing.
I think that's three games this year with five touchdown passes. And I'm just always so amazed when I watch them how many guys are wide open.
The scheme is terrific.
It's such a headache apparently to defend them.
And guys are just running wide open all the time.
That's what you can have when you've got a running quarterback threat,
especially one like Jackson.
Yeah, but I've never seen anything like this.
I mean, the amount of wide open players that just pop.
And how effortless it looks for Jackson.
Oh, he's amazing.
And I think he would probably beat Tom Brady on rollerblades on grass.
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All right, I mentioned some sleepers.
So I can think of really a lot of sleeper-wide receivers this week,
and that's obviously related to the injuries.
So who are some of your favorites?
The ones that come to mind would be Nelson Aguilar if he plays, of sleeper wide receivers this week, and that's obviously related to the injuries. So who are some of your favorites?
The ones that come to mind would be Nelson Aguilar if he plays,
Dolphins, Bucs, Lions to me.
Who would be your favorites there,
and am I forgetting anyone?
Danny Mandola, you mentioned the Lions.
He's something I'm getting more and more interested in.
Eight targets he took the last two weeks.
Now without Marvin Jones,
this is now the third game without TJ Hawkinson.
So I think it's going to be a game where they're chasing points.
We haven't really seen that from them very much,
but I think Tampa Bay's offense, as long as Jameis is healthy,
will put up some numbers against this Detroit defense,
even on the road.
And so Amendola, I think if he gets eight targets
against the secondary, somebody you can use as a third receiver.
He's one of those guys, like, I think could have an 8 for 80 type of game,
hopefully scores.
It would not be surprising if he's better than a number three receiver in PPR.
And he's excellent in daily because his price is so cheap too.
A tight end who I think could work as either a tight end if you're streaming
or as a flex, and this is obviously contingent on Greg Olson
and whether or not he plays as Ianan thomas who's cheap in dfs you'll see him on fandle low price and
he's just been getting a lot of work and he's had some good rapport with kyle allen i would expect
that to continue against the seahawks team that hasn't been great against tight ends won't be
surprised if tyrell williams scores jaguars was bad i know he's still dealing with the plantar
fasciitis but uh i think you'll see Derek Carr take some shots, and this could be
a game where Tyrell Williams breaks his touchdown
less streak.
It's been six games in a row without a score, but
I would not be surprised if he scores here.
And then I think it could be an interesting game for Ronald Jones.
You know, we've seen him over
the last five or six games
a little bit more involved in the passing game.
And again, knowing Mike Evans, so
while it's easy to say
justin watson or brashad perryman or maybe scott miller now he's coming back it could be that they
you know give some more opportunities to ronald jones remember it was week six i believe or seven
where he had the eight catches so it wouldn't surprise me if they you know use him a little
bit more in that regard and detroit's run defense has not been very good. Are we talking that game today, Adam?
Yeah.
Tampa Bay, Detroit.
I'll wait to talk about Ronald Jones then.
Could be a little bit of a shootout there, hopefully.
I mean, I don't know, but it's definitely got the potential.
Just we got an injured quarterback who doesn't have his best wide receiver.
We've got David Blau on the other side.
By the way, we got a question.
Chris Godwin got hurt?
We got a question a couple of weeks ago.
Who's a player in Dynasty Leagues that you should pick up now in Stash?
And Ian Thomas could definitely be the answer there.
If he's available in the Dynasty Leagues, you got to check the Dynasty League you're in.
And he was in my Dynasty League, and I missed him.
He was available.
He was available?
Yeah.
Wow.
Look, I can understand nobody owning him up until a few weeks
ago right but he's in like it's like five games without greg olsen and he has scored double digit
fantasy points in ppr in four of them and in non-ppr in three of them so and he's got a great
matchup this week seattle giving up the third most points to tight ends can i give a different
stash who might be out there
at tight end in Dynasty?
Robert Tanyan with the Packers.
Because Jimmy Graham isn't going to be back next year.
Yeah, what about Sternberger?
Could be their guy.
But Sternberger's already going to be owned.
Tanyan could push him.
All right.
Patrick Laird is a good sleeper this week as well.
The Giants have given up four or more catches
to six running backs
in their last four games.
I don't know that he'll run the ball very well, because
Giants run defense is good now, but he should
be very involved. 15-20 touches maybe.
Laird is 51% on.
Great to see this for next week.
Does it mean anything to you that Giants played
85 snaps of defense on Monday?
Absolutely. Now they've got to take on the Dolphins?
Absolutely.
Who's trying to win that game? Which've got to take on the Dolphins. Absolutely. Yeah.
Who's trying to win that game?
Which team?
Giants.
The Dolphins.
Giants can't stand losing anymore, I'm telling you.
It's pathetic.
They are not tanking.
They are just bad.
That's the difference between them and other teams.
Some teams are trying to lose.
Some teams are really bad.
All right, news and notes.
Josh Jacobs.
What do you think about Josh Jacobs right
now, guys? He looked great, according to Greg Olson,
their offensive coordinator. What's the
new? Trending in the right direction. So if he's the starter, you
start him. Okay.
Derek Henry says he'll be ready to go.
Damian Williams was limited in practice.
That's a mishmash. We don't want
that. But actually, we are previewing
that game later. So we'll talk more about
that.
Kyle Shanahan, he said that Raheem Mostert had earned the top spot at running back for that team
as they faced the Falcons this week.
What did that mean to you guys?
It means 12 carries.
He could get more, but not a lot more.
And I still like him as a number two running back
despite the 12 carries.
He's going to play the most. Yeah, he played more red zone snaps than Tevin Coleman last week by a lot more and I still like him as a number two running back despite the 12 carries he's going to play the most yeah he played more red zone snaps than Tevin Coleman last week by a lot
so I think it was 10 to 3 between them so I think he's if you're going to start a
Niners running back this week against Atlanta that's the one to start all right Bo Scarborough
mispractice doesn't look like he's going to play against Tampa Bay. Jordan Howard practice.
So what's the situation there with Jordan Howard?
Please stay away, right?
Well, he's been practicing on a limited basis for a while now.
He just hasn't been cleared.
So until we learn that he's been cleared,
I wouldn't expect him to play.
All right.
Adam Thielen practice.
We do expect him to play.
Do you have confidence in Jameis Winston with this hand injury?
Apparently he was throwing a tennis ball. I can throw a tennis ball yesterday.
I have Winston in one semifinal with Tannehill and I'm playing Tannehill over him.
For me, that's not even a thought.
But I would give some consideration if I'm if I'm nervous.
You know, if you're nervous, whoever's listening to this,
about Jameis to playing maybe Eli or Carr,
just because I think they could both have,
those other guys could have the same type of upside
if Jameis is not 100%.
If Jameis is 100%, there's no question.
But you just have to worry that for a team that's out of it,
for a guy that may be looking at a potential contract situation,
if he takes a shot on the hand and he doesn't feel right,
I'm done.
Eli Manning, geez.
I got some good stats on Eli Manning.
Encouraging stats on Eli Manning.
Get excited.
Let's see what else we got.
Juju Smith-Schuster, not expected to play.
Tyrell Williams is dealing with plantar fasciitis,
but Jamie said he's still a good sleeper,
could score this week against the Jags.
Will Fuller says he feels good.
Noah Fant was limited in practice.
Hopefully he'll play.
Gerald Everett missed practice.
Hopefully he won't play.
Greg Olson was limited in practice.
He's recovering from that concussion.
We just talked about Ian Thomas.
Obviously that wouldn't work if Greg Olson plays.
If Greg Olson plays, though,
would you start Olson against a team
that gives up the third most points to tight ends?
I think he'd be real
close to a low-end starter, so
yeah, he'd be an option.
Jared Cook limited in practice, but has to clear
the concussion protocol. They're playing Monday
night. If you play into Week 17,
you might not have Lamar Jackson. Reportedly
he will sit if they're locked into a playoff spot.
Devontae Adams was limited
in practice. Doesn't seem like a big deal.
He does have pretty good history.
Oh, wait.
Rogers has great history against the Bears at home.
Last three seasons, he's been 29 or more points.
Adams, I don't quite remember his history against the Bears.
I think it's kind of up and down.
Alshon Jeffrey's going to have foot surgery.
And Green Bay cornerback Kevin King is trending towards playing.
San Francisco defensive tackle DJ Jones is now on IR.
This San Francisco defense and the New Orleans defense, very similar.
They are getting so beat up.
Do you still think San Francisco is a tough matchup?
They beat each other up.
It's still a tough matchup because they still have a lot of good pass rushers there.
And I think they've got enough talent left to stop the run.
But the secondary, huge question mark if atlanta had a better offensive line i'd say that they'd be
in a little bit of trouble but they should still win the game uh davante adams last three games
against the bears at home uh 2017 two catches 13 yards and a touchdown 2018 five catches 88 yards and a touchdown and then
2016 13 catches 132 yards and two touchdowns he's actually either scored i got 100 yards against the
bears and four of his last five no matter where they play yeah so so i only have a few stats to
throw out now because i just want to get into the games a little bit earlier today uh one of them is
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know. Matt Ryan's outdoors.
Are you worried?
Well, if Russell Gage hadn't dropped an easy touchdown
a few weeks ago at Carolina,
Matt Ryan would have scored now 24 or more fantasy points
in seven straight outdoor games going back to last year.
That's in six point per passing touchdown leagues.
That's good history.
He's not playing so well right now,
but that's encouraging.
Aaron Rodgers, 29 or more fantasy. This one really gets that's encouraging. Aaron Rodgers, 29 or more fantasy.
This one really gets me, guys.
Aaron Rodgers, 29 or more fantasy points
in three straight home games against the Bears.
And in those three seasons,
the Bears ranked seventh against the pass
all three years, which is weird.
But it's not like they were tough.
And he killed them.
What does that mean to you?
My only concern is that was Mike McCarthy.
It could have been Joe Philbin, obviously.
I don't remember when they played them last year.
No, it was McCarthy because it was week one last year.
Yeah, week one.
So different offense.
We're just not seeing the same level of Rodgers having to throw the ball over the place.
The run game has been much better.
The defense has been better, so they haven't been chasing points to the same level of degree.
I'm not afraid of Aaron Rodgers that I'm going to necessarily run to bench him this week,
but I don't know where the ceiling is for him.
So I think the floor is like a safe 18 to 20 points.
I just don't know if there's a 25-plus point game out of him against his Bears defense.
And Dave, I love this stat.
Robert Woods had really been struggling, not getting a lot of red zone
targets but since Gerald Everett's gone out in two games five red zone targets for Robert Woods
four of them were in one game but still five red zone targets in two games that crazy it's it's
good to see they're kind of changing their offense around Sean McVay talked about it this week you
know I noticed Cooper Cup played less than 30 percent of the snaps last week that was weird
didn't play at all in the fourth quarter was there an injury there I don't think he's on the injury Talked about it this week. You know, I noticed Cooper Cup played less than 30% of the snaps last week. That was weird.
Didn't play at all in the fourth quarter.
Was there an injury there?
I don't think he's on the injury report.
I have the lowdown for you on that because Ben Gretsch actually talked about it on Wednesday.
It was basically Josh Reynolds came in a lot and just blocked or carried the ball.
So I think for Cup, it was like, I don't think he played a lot on rundowns.
I think that's what Ben said.
That's really what, and that really what Sean McVay said,
is that they just don't want to bother using the receivers in situations where they're going to get beat up blocking.
And that's part of the reason why Higby has seen more work
in the other tight end that they have.
His name escapes me right now,
but he's been getting more work too for blocking.
And then when it's an obvious passing situation,
the receivers come right in and they're running their route.
It's interesting what they're doing.
It's great for Robert Woods because his target numbers
have been through the roof and now everybody's ready to start
him every week.
I think he's a must-on fan.
I think he's a little cheaper than Cooper Cup if I recall.
They're about the same price.
He is cheaper. Do it up.
You guys convinced me on golf, but again
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that could discourage you a little bit.
It's basically all about Jeff Heath.
I mean, the Cowboys have been terrible against defenses lately,
and it's all been with Jeff Heath out,
and he's probably going to play this week.
It's their starting safety.
So I'm looking forward to talking to that game.
Speaking of which, start, sit, or flex at best,
Amari Cooper against the Rams and the Ramsey.
Start.
Start.
You know, Ramsey hasn't allowed a touchdown yet since he's come to LA,
but he's also giving up a 71% catch rate.
Wow.
Michael Gallup against the Rams.
Flex.
Good flex.
Phillip Lindsay at Kansas City.
Start. Number two running back. You asked us this one asked this one yesterday yeah i know i was doing it again um he's just making sure we feel that way
uh carson wentz at washington uh flex at best i try and set him just with the receiving
core being what it is yeah yeah sorry Sorry, it's actually start, sit, or super flex at best.
Miles...
LOL.
Miles Sanders.
Yeah, start him.
Yep, unless Jordan Howard plays.
Adrian Peterson against the Eagles.
Non-PPR flex.
Non-PPR start,
PPR flex.
He'll be better than Le'Veon Bell in both.
Terry McLaurin against the Eagles.
Flex.
Low-end flex.
How would you rank Miles Sanders, Adrian Peterson, and Terry McLaurin?
Sanders, Peterson, McLaurin in non-PPR.
Sanders, McLaurin, Peterson in PPR.
Same. Same.
Cool.
And Kenny Galladay against Tampa Bay.
Super start.
Start.
Amari Cooper, by the way, his last five home games,
no fewer than six catches, no fewer than 85 yards,
no fewer than five catches.
He's had four touchdowns in his last five games.
He's had three touchdowns in his last five games.
He's had three games over 100 yards.
He is the Drew Brees of wide receivers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No wonder he doesn't want to leave Dallas.
Yeah.
OJ Howard at Detroit.
Start or sit or flex at best.
Start. He's good enough to start.
Like him better in PPR.
I'm just going to do a real quick beat the waiver wire here.
You guys can tell me if there are any more names.
But for defenses next week, the Texans are at Tampa Bay.
The Seahawks get the Cardinals.
Seahawks get a little healthier.
Oh, I don't like the Texans.
Yeah.
Well, unless there's no James Winston.
Yeah.
We get some turnovers maybe.
Patrick Laird against Cincinnati.
And how about these quarterbacks?
Rivers against Oakland.
Trubisky against Kansas City at home.
Fitzpatrick against Cincinnati.
Drew Locke against Detroit.
Daniel Jones, hopefully, at Washington.
Don't like Trubisky.
I think Rivers is interesting.
Because I think this is going to be Oakland's okay, we got our big win
at home. We're done.
John Ross is interesting to me just because
if he's healthy against the Dolphins without
on Tate now.
What about A.J. Green?
What about
Daniel Jones?
I can't get excited. Yeah, Andy Dalton against
Miami. Yeah.
Remember I asked you if A.J. Green plays one game
and it's week 16 against the Dolphins,
where would you rank him?
Do you remember what you said?
Number one.
Yeah, number one.
All right, here we go.
Let's start with the game of the week.
The Dolphins at the Giants.
Actually, it could be a pretty good fantasy game here.
So you want to get excited about Eli Manning?
All right, here you go.
2018, he had five matchups against teams that were in the bottom 10 against quarterbacks. So
good matchups. He scored 21 fantasy points or more in four of them. And so that was pretty good. He
never had a big game all year. I don't think he scored more than 25 fantasy points. So he didn't
all season in six point per pass, he touched down leagues. But he was good against bad match points. He did all season. Six points per pass, he touched down leagues. He was good against bad matchups.
He was solid. Can he get
you 21 to 25 points this
week, Eli Manning?
He had 20 points, basically, in the half last week
against the Eagles. It was a similar matchup.
That's it.
I think the biggest hurdle is just
a mental thing that you've got to do in your head,
which is, am I really
starting Eli Manning in week 15?
That's a tough hurdle to get
over, though. But the matchup
is outstanding.
Everybody pretty much has good numbers
against the Dolphins' defense.
So which quarterback do you like better in this game?
Darn.
Fitzpatrick.
No, I like Manning better
because if there's no Devontae Parker,
I don't want to try Ryan Fitzpatrick with Isaiah Ford and Alan Hearns
and Mike Kisecki.
I mean, those would be his top three options.
I'd take my chances with the guy with Slayton and Shepard and Tate,
hopefully, maybe Evan Ingram too.
So I just wonder, like, the next two weeks for the Dolphins are so interesting
because if they win these two games, they really screw themselves.
If they lose these two games, they're almost locking up the second spot,
which guarantees you Joe Burrow or Chase Young,
which is what I would rather have if I'm the Dolphins
as opposed to, hey, yeah, we beat the Giants and the Bengals.
Let's draft an offensive lineman at sixth overall.
Right. I misspoke. I've got Eli ahead of Fitzpatrick.
But Parker has a chance to play.
So if Parker plays, Fitzpatrick bumps up, right?
Big time?
Yeah, but I'd still play Eli.
I just think there's a better chance of him
performing a little bit more consistently.
You would take Eli Manning over Ryan Fitzpatrick
if Devontae Parker plays?
Yeah. You know, the problem, and i guess this isn't much of a problem because parker didn't play for
much of last week but fitzpatrick was driving the dolphins into the red zone often against the jets
and he just couldn't find touchdowns he could settle for field goals and that crushes value
he also ran it on there's no guarantee he's going to do that again in that parker though
so i think he would have found at least one touchdown you know at davante parker last week crushes value. He also ran a ton. There's no guarantee he's going to do that again. So I think
he would have found at least one touchdown
at Devontae Parker last week, but I don't know about
three. It's really the same thing.
You're probably right. Fitzpatrick probably has a higher ceiling
just because we've seen that from him. You know, 29 points,
30 points. So, you know, if you want to
swing for the fences, then probably
Fitzpatrick's the way to go. I think Eli's probably a little bit
safer just because I just don't know which
Dolphins team is going to show up this week.
All right, I'll say this,
and I'll be on Azar Island here.
If Devontae Parker plays,
Ryan Fitzpatrick will be the best Ryan quarterback this week.
That's Matt Ryan, Ryan Tannehill, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
He will be the best if Devontae Parker plays.
This team is a joke.
Their pass defense is pathetic.
And I don't know. I think Janoris Jenkins
is going to play. I like how you're giving the Dolphins that much
credit, though.
He's just a better... He's going to take
more chances. He's going to throw downfield more than
Eli Manning. You're probably right.
I think Eli Manning threw for 24 yards in the
second half.
If Darius Slayton doesn't break that tackle,
Manning has like 15 points.
So, you know.
Have you seen
the Dolphins tackle?
No, they don't do much of it.
So let's go to
Patrick Laird, guys.
Who would you start him over?
Who are some big names
that you might start him over?
I would have started him
over Eli, gosh,
over Le'Veon last night in PPR.
You know the Jets and Giants
are different teams, right?
I do.
Not that much different.
I would start him in PPR over Montgomery,
Adrian Peterson, Chris Thompson.
If anybody is still considering
David Johnson as a starter,
I would start Laird over him too.
Jamal Williams, the Bucs running backs.
I'm buying into this Giants defense being exhausted
after playing so much on Monday.
And Laird is a decent pass catcher.
I think he's going to get more targets than he had last week.
Yeah, he had 19 touches at the Jets last week
and faced a good run defense there.
And he had, let's see, 86 total yards.
So, again, Giants giving up a lot of catches to running backs lately.
Would you start Miles Sanders or Patrick Laird?
Sanders.
Sanders.
Unless Howard plays, then I'd go Laird and PPR.
So who are the wide receivers you want to start in this game?
Want to?
Well, there's one for sure.
The Giants' number one receiver
should be really good,
Terry Slayton.
The Dolphins, there's not really anybody
you could say want to start. You may have to start
them unless Parker plays.
But if Parker's out, it's a guessing game
who's going to be better between Hearns and Ford.
Ford was better last week. Hearns has at least
a little bit better rapport with Ryan Fitzpatrick, but you don't want
to start those guys.
I'm in a tough situation where I have to start five receivers, and I'm down DJ Chark, Mike
Evans, T.Y.
Hilton, and we'll see about Will Fuller.
So my number one receiver is Darius Layton.
My number two receiver is Larry Fitzgerald, and my number three receiver might be Alan Hearns. Oh, wow. Good luck, buddy. That's bad. Isaiah Ford is 5,500 on FanDuel.
So I think that that's a pretty cheap receiver that you can use if you want to load up on
expensive running backs or what have you in your lineup. I don't feel good using any Dolphins
receiver and seasonal fantasy play. And I think Darius Slayton
is going to have another good game.
Yeah, I mean, look,
he's played one game with Eli Manning
and he had a great game and he got
a lot of targets.
But you've seen the floor for basically the last month.
I mean, 10 PPR points or more in four straight games.
I guess, but before that...
I don't think he's going to kill you.
He's terrible.
Before that, he had some really terrible games.
He's had four games this year with six or fewer PPR points.
Yeah, I mean, look, he's not a slam dunk.
I don't think it's okay.
Just because he's playing the Dolphins,
it's a guarantee that he's that type of guy
that's going to just destroy this team,
and he's coming off a strong game.
The thing you're hanging your hat on is,
the first game with Eli Manning, he led them in targets.
You have Golden Tate now banged up a little bit.
We don't know if Evan Ingram is going to play at this point.
You got to expect him to be out.
And so it could be Sterling Shepard.
It could be Golden Tate.
You know, it could be one of the,
it could be Caden Smith.
I mean, the Dolphins have given up production
across the board to a lot of different positions.
But I think if you're just looking at it,
team that's allowed the most touchdowns to wide receivers,
guy who got the most targets from his quarterback last week.
Big play threat adds up to a guy you want to take a chance on.
Guy who leads his team in touchdowns with seven.
Everything sets up nicely for Slayton,
and this Dolphins defense is terrible.
I like him as a number two receiver.
I like him better than A.J. Brown.
Would you start Patrick Laird or Darius Slayton?
Slayton. Yeah? Slayton.
Yeah, Slayton.
What if Ingram plays?
Still Slayton.
Okay.
Who's the second best wide receiver in this game,
assuming Parker's out?
I'd go Shepard.
I think that's the safer one to go with is Shepard.
And then break.
We're kind of heading for the hills on Golden Tate.
Break down the tight ends.
I think Gusecki's got a good opportunity here.
I mean, you saw last week the Giants,
knowing that Zach Ertz was going to be the only one that could catch passes,
and they couldn't cover him.
So I know Gusecki was bad last week.
I still think you're looking at six to eight targets on the low end so without parker in there he's a must play for me if parker plays i'd still
trust him uh two of the previous three games he was he was really good so um again you're looking
at a dolphins receiving core that is just down guys and so since preston williams went down
gasecki's really been the number two guy there could it be ford if they're trying to feature
him a little bit maybe could it be hearns since they gave him a contract extension this offseason?
Maybe.
But I just look at it as Gusecki in a matchup against his Giants defense,
which we know for basically the last 10 years has struggled with tight ends.
And we saw last week that they struggled with tight ends again.
But I wouldn't get cute with Gusecki.
I wouldn't start him over Ian Thomas if Olsen's out.
I would.
I wouldn't start him over Higby no wouldn't start
him over Hooper Waller Hunter Henry I like Goddard better so I mean I'm I'm not ready to put all the
chips in on Gasicki yeah I think he's got top 10 upside in this matchup with the Giants secondary
being as bad as this he does have good upside but you know I I was getting like excited to start
Mike Gasicki but fact of
the matter is he has less than 30 yards in four of his last five games even though he has five to
seven targets in all of those games so i mean he's just he's been pretty bad unfortunately but there
is a great opportunity here for mike kasicki no question a lot of a lot of possible outcomes
there saquon barkley you're gonna start he's been really bad but you're gonna start him he's been
he's been really bad per carry but he's getting a ton of work.
This feels like a big breakout game coming from him.
Yeah, I don't know.
I hope so, man.
I hope so, too.
But, boy, Green Bay should have been his breakout game.
And, you know, he's just struggling right now.
He's not healthy.
And that's it.
Well, he said he's healthy.
Did you see what he said yesterday?
No.
He said the mental aspect of the season's been wearing on him you know lisa salters though she said on monday before the game that saquon barkley said he was finally starting to feel like himself
or something like that and it's like okay well then you lied a few weeks ago when you said you
were healthy so he's not healthy i mean it's just but a lot of players do that that's not a surprise
but he's not healthy you know They don't want to make excuses.
No one wants to say, well, I'm hurt and that's why I stink.
All right, let's go to our next game here.
It's the Bears and the Packers.
Which quarterback do you like better in this one?
I have Trubisky one spot higher than Rodgers,
and I go back and forth on it on an hourly basis.
Yeah, this is the week that Trubisky bubble pops.
I would go Rodgers for sure.
All right, where are in the rankings, Dave,
since you have them back-to-back?
They're outside of my top 12 in back-to-back.
I believe it's 14-15 or 15-16.
It's actually lower than that, 16-17.
Packers give up the fourth- fourth fewest points to quarterbacks,
but the eighth most yards per attempt.
So they have a deceiving pass defense, I'd say.
Jamie, why are you anti-Trabisky?
I just think he's taking advantage of some really good matchups of late,
and I don't think this is a good one on the road in Green Bay
against a team that he's traditionally struggled against.
He's faced them four times.
He's averaging 15 fantasy points per game against them.
They've given up one game over 20 fantasy points in their last five.
They're in their building.
I think the pass rush is going to be tough for Trubisky.
So I don't expect him to have a, a great game.
I think it'll be about 18 points as a ceiling.
I could see this being one of those games where he flops though.
Do you think he runs like he did last week?
It's not that level. No, no, not that.
If he doesn't, then he's, then the bubble's going to pop.
Because the pass rush for the Packers is great.
And the Bears' offensive line has been playing better,
but I still think it's going to be a challenge for them.
And if Trubisky doesn't run when he's feeling pressure,
then the 18-point range is going to be right exactly where he lives.
Bears running backs.
I think he might run.
Yeah, I hope so.
That'd be nice.
That's the only reason why you can make a case for Trubisky.
He's been playing well, but I think he runs more,
and that helps his fantasy floor.
All right, the Bears running backs.
David Montgomery getting a lot of work.
His last two games, 16 carries for 75 yards
and two catches for 12 yards and a touchdown at Detroit. That was
a good one. And then 20 carries for 86
yards, but a fumble against Dallas, so
it wasn't bad. The Packers
stink against the run. They give up
the six most fantasy points to running backs,
the six most receiving yards to running backs.
Are you comfortable with either Montgomery or
Cohen?
I think they're flexes.
Cohen and PPR, Montgomery and non-PPR.
They're going to give him 15 plus carries.
I can't imagine that not happening against the Packers.
We've seen Matt Nagy do a lot of stupid things.
But since the idiot comment, they've started to clearly lean on him much more in terms of Montgomery.
Will it be a positive fantasy output for Montgomery?
Like we saw Thanksgiving
where it took him catching a touchdown to help you?
Or will it be sort of one of these empty games
like we saw from Le'Veon
where he's getting 18 carries,
gets you 80 yards,
the rushing average looks nice,
but he doesn't catch the ball or doesn't score?
That's the fear.
So you can run on the Packers.
They will probably try and run on the Packers.
I just don't know if Montgomery
is going to have the utmost success
getting those numbers that you need.
So do you think he's safe for like seven non-PPR fantasy points?
Yes.
But I don't know if he's safe for 10.
No.
Because it's a great matchup.
He gets good opportunities, but he's just not an exciting running back.
He'll have two or three nice runs.
But everything else is going to be three yards.
So we're going to start A.J. Brown.
We're going to start Darius Slayton over David Montgomery.
In PPR, would you start Chris Thompson
or David Montgomery?
I'd probably go Montgomery.
I'd probably still go Montgomery too because I think he'll get
two catches.
Will he get 10 points?
More than that, I don't know.
I don't know if Thompson's going to have another seven-catch game.
All right, the wide receivers for the Bears.
Robinson, you guys have in the top 10, and Anthony Miller,
he's a lot higher on Miller than you guys are.
You have him around 30th in non-PPR, 24th in PPR.
For Heath, Anthony Miller is top 15.
So he's 32% owned. He's been good for three straight games. What do you think about Miller,
Dave? I think he's good in PPR. I think he makes the cut as a top 24 receiver there.
And I think the target volume goes up because I expect the Bears to ultimately chase points or try and throw. And going into the slot, I think it's a good matchup for Anthony Miller against Tremont Williams.
So I think that you're going to see Miller have another game somewhere between 12 and potentially 18 PPR points.
The thing that the Bears have done, they've moved both receivers in the slot around.
Allen Robinson plays in the slot too.
So both have an opportunity here to be successful in that regard.
I think this could be like a 6 for 50, 6 for 60, 6 for 70 type of game for Miller.
It would not be surprising if he leads them in receiving yards.
I think Robinson will score.
You've seen that more times than not from him. Miller scored last week,
but Robinson's been a little bit more of a
red zone option for Trubisky,
but I don't think you're getting
two blow-up games from both those guys.
What you see a lot against the Packers
is touchdowns or something,
but not a lot of catches. They don't give up a lot
of catches. They give up big plays,
and there has not been one wide receiver
that's scored more than 15
PPR fantasy points with less than nine
targets. It's hard to have a standout game with less than
nine targets. And hopefully we get that again
from Anthony Miller. It's been three of the last four games.
The weather is supposed to be
below freezing.
Oof. I
hate that. So I saw something
that their Lambeau Field
they're giving out like free warm drinks or something to that effect.
Like coffee and hot chocolate.
I guess so.
The temperature right now is supposed to be 19 degrees.
I hate that.
That's Bears Packers weather, though.
What would you choose?
That's what they're supposed to play.
Would you go coffee or hot chocolate?
I can't stand coffee.
And it sent me to the hospital once. So give me chocolate wow that's a sweep none of us like coffee all right
uh the bears tight ends we're gonna sit even though they have a good matchup and they were
good last week you can't trust them aaron rogers 14th 15th 16th in the rankings that history against
chicago is pretty enticing but he just has not had a good game all year
against a good pass defense.
It's a team that ranks well against quarterbacks.
You just can't do it.
So would you start Eli Manning or Aaron Rodgers?
Rodgers.
Back-to-back for me right now.
This is a ceiling floor play.
I think ceiling is higher for Eli, but floor is safer for Rodgers.
All right, let's talk about Aaron Jones.
Do you have any hesitation with Aaron Jones?
No.
You just have to roll with him.
He's too big a part of the offense.
He's a huge reason why Aaron Rodgers is having the year that he's having.
You know what's funny, though?
Let's say he didn't play last week,
because last week Aaron Jones got 16 carries, 134 yards,
and a touchdown and six catches.
That workload was completely outrageous.
He was getting 11 to 13 carries and barely any catches before that.
If they go away from that
so stupid it's just absolutely dumb to go away from it because it's what works for them earlier
in the season it's what works for them when their offense is clicking i mean just do the same thing
and they don't have a lot of reliable receivers for rogers you got davante adams who's the next
best lazard and is he good oh Oh, no, no, no.
Okay, so leaning on the running backs,
I think it makes sense,
and they've done it so much this year.
I think they should lean on Jones and Williams all game long.
I would anticipate Jones being a big part of the game plan.
Raiders starting running back or Aaron Jones?
I would take Josh Jacobs over Aaron Jones.
Yeah.
Okay, guys.
Jacksonville, yeah.
Last question.
We're going to start Devontae Adams.
We're going to sit Jimmy Graham.
Jamal Williams, any interest in him?
No.
He'd have to be desperate.
Laird is ahead of him in PPR.
Which DST? Laird might be ahead of him in non-PPR, too.
Which DST do you prefer?
Packers.
I think I'd prefer the Bears bears but i'm really not excited
about either one i like the bears and dfs because they're cheap speaking of cheap what do you think
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Just making up a number.
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That's where they start at.
Dave and I are going to sit lower level in the end zone for $196.
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Atlanta at San Francisco.
Matt Ryan or Aaron Rodgers?
Ryan.
Matt Ryan.
Okay, how much do you like Matt Ryan?
No Calvin Ridley, but a beat-up San Francisco team.
He's just outside my top 12.
He's 13.
Same.
And it's of high likelihood that he's chasing points
so i i don't hate him this week i like garoppolo better i do too yeah garoppolo's top 10 for me
yep in the main slate on fanduel he's the most expensive quarterback which i think it's crazy
it's crazy yeah he shouldn't do that but he's playing really well. With Garoppolo, we'll get to him in a minute.
You just have to wonder how many pass attempts
will he have to make in this game.
The last six quarterbacks against the Niners,
Kyler Murray had two huge games.
Drew Brees destroyed them.
Lamar Jackson was good.
Rodgers and Wilson were not.
You can score some points.
Yeah, Heath has been talking all week about quarterbacks in San Francisco
and how poor they've done.
And the one that has done well was Kyler Murray because he ran.
Yeah, I'm a little worried because you take away that 90-91,
whatever it was, passing touchdown last week,
and he would not have had
a good game.
Ryan, but you're talking
about a blog game, though.
Yeah. You mean last week?
Yeah. They were up 20 points.
They won by 20 points. Yeah. He threw 34
passes.
I'll take the over on that.
That's a good point.
Can we get away from Devontae Freeman?
Yeah. The last three running backs against them,
not good.
San Francisco.
Kamara, Aaron Jones, Mark Ingram.
Seven PPR points or less for all three of those guys.
Wow.
Laird or Freeman?
Laird.
PPR.
Yeah, I can't do it.
I'll go Freeman, but it's not a good matchup.
Oh, I'll definitely go in Laird there.
The Niners give up the second fewest receiving yards,
and they faced some good ones too, like Kamara last week.
So receiving yards to running backs is what I mean.
Okay, and the Atlanta wide receivers.
Is Julio Jones a slam dunk?
He has really not been great.
He has, let's see, more than six catches only once in his last six games.
That's kind of un-Julio Jones-like.
You can guarantee double-digit PPR fantasy points
because he's done that in all but two games this year.
But getting into the 20s,
I don't know if he's really capable of doing that these days.
We'll see.
The target share should go up without Ridley there.
And he's just, you figure that he's the most
explosive receiver that they have, but the
Niners are also probably going to have
a good game plan to try and take him away from Matt
Ryan. I think
you're still going to start Julio Jones. I could say anything
here.
Would you start a 49ers wide receiver over Julio
Jones? No. I'm not ready
to do that. I know that if I had more certainty about which 49ers receiver was for sure the best, maybe.
But I think that they're both, Samuel and Emmanuel Sanders are both number two type receivers.
Love the matchup for them.
Yeah. I talked about sleeper wide receivers earlier.
I did not mention the Falcons.
Is Russell Gage or Christian Blake interesting to you?
No love for Olamide Zaccheaus?
Russell Gage is interesting, just with the injuries there.
But not Christian Blake.
Okay.
I would have a hard time trusting any of them.
Do you trust Austin Hooper,
who only had two catches for 32 yards last week,
and the Niners somehow still give up
the fewest fantasy points to tight ends,
even after giving up three touchdowns
to the Saints' tight ends?
I don't think they're very good against tight ends.
They just haven't faced good ones.
Do you have faith in Austin Hooper?
I was a little surprised that he was
the top seven tight end for you guys.
I'm hoping that he bounces back
after his first game following his
injury. And if Matt
Ryan's throwing a bunch and there's no
Calvin Ridley, target share should
go up for him too. So I
actually, I kind of like
Hooper and Daly because his price has come
down. So I think that you start
him in seasonal and I think he's an interesting
tight end, like a contrarian play
almost.
All right.
Jamie Garoppolo, talk about Jimmy G, and he's a top 10 quarterback.
He's 10th for you, and he's 6th for Dave, and he's 8th for Heath.
Playing very well. I think my concern is, like, is this going to be one of those games
where he throws 22 passes?
Do you have that concern?
Should we factor that in?
Yes, 100%.
If he's going to have a good game,
it's going to be a Russell Wilson type of game
where he's just so efficient
and you get a couple of breakaway scores
where a Falcons defender misses a tackle
and it's Debo or Sanders having a big play
that helps his yardage come up a little bit.
But I don't think it's going to be a 35-plus attempt type of game for him.
So that's the one worry.
But the matchup is so enticing.
And so I think you buy into, you know,
hopefully what he's done three of his last four games
where he's been over 20 fantasy points.
It's just I don't think it's going to be a, oh, my gosh,
the 49ers and Saints is looking like the best game in the NFL.
You know, it's not going to be that with the Falcons.
I just don't think the Falcons offense does that to the same level.
Garoppolo or Tannehill?
Tannehill.
Tannehill, easy.
Garoppolo or...
Goff?
Goff.
I've got Garoppolo.
I had a Goff.
All right.
Garoppolo's passer rating is 110 or better in five of his last six games.
He's on fire.
The San Francisco running backs.
So Raheem Mostert's the only one we're going to be looking to start here.
Raheem Mostert or Patrick Laird?
Mostert.
Raheem Mostert or Devin Singletary?
I think that's an easy one. Mostert, right? It's not easy, but I'd take Mostert. Devin Singletary. I think that's an easy one.
Mostert, right?
It's not easy, but I'd take Mostert.
I would too.
Over James Conner.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's close though.
How about...
You know, if we're worried about the pass attempts for Garoppolo,
wouldn't that mean that the 49ers are running the ball a bunch?
Yeah, I think you get it.
So maybe that means more than 12 carries for Mostert.
No, I think it's 12 for him. It's probably
10 for Breida and probably 8 for Coleman.
I mean, that's kind of how it's been when they've been
running the ball very well.
Yeah, Falcons run defense has really been
struggling lately. It was not bad earlier in
the year, but it's been pretty weak.
So it's a good matchup, and he's just
awesome. He has the highest yards
per carry in the NFL for any running back with more
than 100 carries,
as you found out on Fantasy Feud on Wednesday.
Would you start Mostert, Emmanuel Sanders, or Debo Samuel?
Mostert.
Really? Even in PPR?
No. In PPR, I would start Thursey.
Okay. Who do you like better, Sanders or Samuel?
Debo.
I like Debo better.
Really? Interesting.
He's just been more consistent.
Yeah, but Sanders has been injured, you know?
I wonder if he just...
I have them back-to-back.
I think they're both top 20 type of guys.
So Debo's numbers, like Dave said, have been more consistent.
Sanders, I know, was great last week,
but you've got to throw out the passing touchdown.
That's not something you want to count on.
Oh, I'm counting on it.
I'm sure you do.
I think he's fine.
I think he's a fine...
Both of them are good number twos here.
Right.
Deebo's giving you double-digit fantasy points
regardless of format, five straight games.
All right, we're going to start George Kittle
and the Niners' DST is top six.
Let's go to our next game.
It's Seattle at Carolina.
Here's what you need to know about the red zone for Seattle.
You remember DK Metcalf?
He had all these red zone targets
and he wasn't catching any of them.
Well, he has one red zone target in his last four games
and it was 20 yards away.
Tyler Lockett has one red zone target
in his last four games. Jacob Lockett has one red zone target in his last four games.
Jacob Hollister has nine red zone targets in his last five games.
So that is who Russell Wilson has been looking at,
which really shouldn't come as that much of a surprise
based on Will Disley earlier this year.
I want to talk about Russell Wilson.
First this, would you start Garoppolo or Wilson?
Yep.
I would start Wilson over Garoppolo.
I said or.
It must have sounded like over.
Yeah, I heard over.
Oh, okay.
Well, I said or.
So you would start Garoppolo, Dave?
Yeah, I would go with Garoppolo over Russ.
Yeah, I'd go Wilson.
If this game were in Seattle, I'd go Wilson.
But I know it's an easy matchup,
and I think Seattle just wants to run the ball like crazy.
This is Russell's desperation MVP play right here.
Oh, please.
There is no desperation MVP play.
The MVP is over.
Not in his mind.
Yes, he's the smart guy.
There's no way anyone's winning the MVP.
He's going to be unanimous.
I'm telling you.
Lamar Jackson's unanimous.
I would.
I think he would play big.
I would think like Jamie thinks if the game were in Seattle.
Where did he start his college career at?
He started it in North Carolina.
That's great.
Oh, that's such a stretch.
I think it's going to be just let's get a win,
and here's a team that can't stop the run to save their lives,
and let's just go make sure
our run game is rocking
I've got Chris Carson top three this
week I think he gets a huge amount of work
Chris Carson is the fan of free space
he's way too cheap
there just is a
bit of a free pass every week for
Russell Wilson it's 20 or fewer fantasy points
in six point per pass you touchdown leagues
in six of his last seven games. And he's simply just not playing as well. His passing rate,
his completion percentage is down in these seven games from 72.5% to 62%. His yards per attempt
down from nine yards per attempt in his first six games to 7.5 in his last seven. He's thrown 12
touchdowns in these seven games. Five of them were against Tampa Bay.
So, I understand he always has number one quarterback upside.
Tyler Lockett, supposedly healthier.
Not this week.
I think it's safe to say he's not going to be number one.
Does he have number two upside this week?
He does.
But, you know, I feel like getting this off my chest.
I did a little bit on Monday.
But he just hasn't been that good.
And Heath has him number two.
You guys have him closer to the eighth, tenth,
but, you know, I...
Okay, I don't know that I have a point here.
He was in Carolina last year.
He went for 339-2.
I could see something similar.
Okay, but he placed the Rams earlier this season,
and he scored, like, 40 points,
and last week he scored how many?
That defense is playing much
better. That defense has turned things around
for the Rams and they have different personnel.
The Panthers are playing out the
string right now. Yeah, the Panthers
though have really been bad against running backs. I mean,
we know that. They have the worst run defense, basically.
Or one of the worst.
But they've allowed 311
or more passing yards to
Tannehill, Ryan, Breeze, and Ryan again.
Four times in their last six games, a quarterback's thrown 311 or more yards.
So that's definitely reason for hope.
Okay, Lockett or Metcalf, who do you like?
Metcalf.
Yeah, I think it's Metcalf.
There's something, and this coincides with what's going on with Russ,
is that Lockett just hasn't been playing well. And I don't know if it's an illness one week or a leg injury
for a couple of weeks, but it's just, it feels like they're not trying to give a big target
workload to Lockett. So they're kind of giving it to Metcalf. And I get it. Metcalf was lined up
against Jalen Ramsey last week.
We were nervous about it.
The numbers weren't amazing.
Not the whole game.
But for a lot of it.
He had a lot of catches against Ramsey.
He did.
So I think that they like what they've got in Metcalf.
Yeah, he had 78 yards.
I think the targets bear it out.
Right.
He's not scoring because, like I said,
those red zone targets have gone away,
but they could easily come back.
It's a fluky thing.
You guys are going to start Darius Slayton over him. We start Zach Paschal
over the Seahawks guys.
Yeah, as of now. If T.Y. Hilton's
out, yes. Going to start
the 49ers guys over
them, right? Yes.
Yes.
Okay. Lockett's a number
three receiver, but there's always upside with
Tyler Lockett, especially if he's healthy.
Jacob Hollister, start or sit?
Low end starter.
He's in that Ian Thomas, Dallas Goddard, OJ Howard,
Mike Isecki range.
Doyle.
So he'd be behind the starting tight end for the Panthers,
be it Olsen or Thomas, right?
He'd be behind, yes.
He would be for me.
You could make the case for him to be like the 10th or 11th best tight end in PPR.
Okay.
And we'll make the Panthers quick.
Sit Kyle Allen.
Start Christian McCaffrey.
Start DJ Moore.
He is a stud over the last six games, I think.
DJ Moore is the number two wide receiver in both formats,
which surprised me a little bit because I thought he'd be more like 10. He's the number two wide receiver, DJ formats, which surprised me a little bit because I thought he'd be more like 10.
He's the number two wide receiver
in his last six games.
Curtis Samuel started silly.
Curtis Samuel.
Samuel is touchdown dependent.
Yeah, I'd say him.
And he's not even like one of those,
you know, Will Fuller, Hollywood Brown types
where, you know, one or two big plays makes his week.
I don't think he's that guy.
So I would try and avoid Curtis Samuel.
And I think you know how we feel about the tight ends at this point,
who if there's a starter there, you're going to start.
We're going to be more excited about Ian Thomas.
Currently, he is ranked in the top 10.
But behind Higby, behind Hooper, for Jamie, behind Gasicki, not for Dave.
And the Seattle DST is not bad this week.
Getting a little healthier.
You can start them.
Except Heath doesn't like them.
He has them 22nd.
Dave and Jamie have the Seahawks in their top 10.
All right.
Are we going to get a shootout?
The over-under for the Rams and the Cowboys is 49.
How do you guys see this playing out?
And the Cowboys should get Jeff Heath, could get Jeff
Heath, their safety and defensive tackle
Antoine Woods back this week.
Heath missed the games at Detroit,
Buffalo, and at Chicago. And those
three quarterbacks lit up the Cowboys.
So that could be important
there. So how do you feel about this
game, Dallas and the Rams?
I think it's going to be high scoring.
I think you're going to see both offenses show up.
I feel more confident in the Rams offense
than I do the Cowboys offense right now,
just given what's happening with that team.
But you look at the way Jared Goff has played
the last two games,
and it seems as if this Rams offense
looks like the Rams offense from a year ago.
Different how they're getting it done,
with the tight end being a huge part of it
and not from Brandon Cooks.
But Gurley, I think, is going to have his 18-plus carries.
It's just a matter of will he score.
Hopefully, Malcolm Brown's not on the drive
when they get inside the five-yard line,
but Gurley should be a starter.
Wood should be a starter.
Higby should be a starter,
and then it's just a matter of how well Cup does.
I think Cup's worth starting as well.
I feel like Gurley's a free space on FanDuel, too.
He's at 7,600, and he could get the Cowboys no Le van der esch and no sean lee that would be huge so i i think
girly gets a nice dose of work i think the blocking's been better for la and that's helped
jared goff i i think the rams will hold up there under the bargain i think the cowboys can too i
think that their backs are against the wall and they still want to be relevant
and I could see
them. It might be more of a second half thing than
a first half thing, but I think they're going to put points up.
So who's your favorite quarterback in this game?
Goff.
They're
both top 10.
I'm going to go Dak one spot ahead of
Goff. Garoppolo, Goff, Dak.
That order for me.
I'd go Garoppolo.
No, Goff, Garoppolo, Dak.
What concerns me about Goff is, look,
the last two games have been against the Cardinals.
I basically don't care.
They're awful.
Most fantasy points quarterbacks.
Then the Seahawks.
Seahawks have one of the worst pass rushes in the NFL.
We know Jared Goff is very good when he doesn't get pressured.
So he fooled us a little bit.
He had those back-to-back games against the Falcons and the Bengals.
He was really good in both of them.
The next three games, he scored a combined 11 points.
He has had moments where Jared Goff has been just totally awful.
What helps me, because I've moments where Jared Goff has been just totally awful.
What helps me,
because I've come around on Goff,
you guys have convinced me to like him a little bit more,
the Cowboys defense has been terrible lately. Just terrible.
It's been so bad. Their pass rush
hasn't been good at all.
And you factor that in with the
blocking for LA, and I think
it gives Goff a real chance to have
good numbers. I added him this morning
there's a team that i have that's got jamis as its quarterback and i'm gonna be happy to start golf
if jamis ends up not practicing friday listed as questionable i'm not gonna take the chance
there i'm gonna go with golf over winston in that case okay i currently have golf and fitzpatrick
if devante parker plays i'm i'm gonna go with and Fitzpatrick. If Devante Parker plays,
I'm,
I'm going to go with Fitzpatrick.
Uh,
you guys probably don't agree with that.
If Devante Parker doesn't play,
I will go with Jared golf this week and I will try to beat Heath
Cummings and it will be wonderful.
Uh,
he will probably be,
he will probably be me though.
Cause I have some tough matchups.
Uh,
so let's talk about the wide receivers,
Amari Cooper and Robert Woods are must starts.
Robert Woods has like 90 or more yards in four
straight games, I think. Yeah, 95 or more
in four straight games, so start him.
When it comes to him,
Cooper Cup and Michael Gallup.
Who do you like better, and would you start Raheem
Mostert over them?
I would start Mostert
over Gallup. I like Cup better than Gallup.
I do, too.
It's easier to say that in PPR than
non-PPR.
Yeah, I
wish Cup would have another
big breakout game, but I'm happy
with what he's been doing. Like last week,
you can't really be that upset about what he gave you.
No, but he's pretty touchdown dependent
himself lately. He has six or fewer targets
in four of his last five games. Right.
He's not a yardage receiver
at this point.
I don't think you can count on him to get you
120 and no touchdowns. You're looking for
that touchdown. The good news is
that he keeps getting those opportunities.
Jared Goff keeps looking for him.
So Woods is getting the yardage
and Cup is getting the touchdowns.
That's how it feels like. Yeah.
Right. But Woods getting the red zone targets lately's how it feels like. Yeah, right.
But Woods getting the red zone targets lately without Gerald Everett there,
I thought that was really interesting.
So if you have a running back,
a kind of questionable running back,
like a Phillip Lindsay or a Devin Singletary
or David Montgomery or even a Patrick Laird
that you think is going to get at least 15 touches,
how do you balance those against Cooper Cup,
who's not even getting six targets most occasions's not even getting six targets most occasions, or not even getting
seven targets most occasions, but seems
like he has a really good chance to score?
I'm playing Cup over those guys.
Again, I just see
this game going up and down,
high scoring. I think it's going to go over the 49,
so I'd play the over there.
These are...
This was in Los Angeles where we've seen the Cowboys
struggle on the road is a different story.
But Cowboys have been good in their building.
I think the Rams offense is finally in a rhythm.
Like you said, I don't think it's going to be a situation where this defense frustrates the Rams.
Could be wrong.
But just based on what I've seen the last couple of weeks, I don't think that's the case from Dallas.
So I'll buy into golf.
I'll buy into the Rams offense.
I'll buy into what this game projects like.
I mean, imagine the situation where forget
about what Dallas look like the Rams clearly have been a disappointment that they're still favored
going into Dallas so I think that tells you where Vegas expects this game to go that the Rams offense
should score points and maybe they you know get that from their key guys which is how I would
anticipate it with Cooper Cup having a big involvement Dave is there anything else you want to say about Dak Prescott?
Because I know a lot of people are going to have a ton of questions about him.
Yeah, and the reason why I'm willing to trust him so much
is because if you throw out the game in the rain against the Patriots,
he's had at least 330 yards in his last four.
Four of his last five, 330 the one they did it was against
the Patriots he's delivered at least 19 fantasy points in every game if you throw out the Patriots
game 22 fantasy points in five of his past seven I just think that there's just too much upside to
say that you can't use Dak Prescott oh you start him I don't think anybody I don't think he's a
top like we were ranking him as like a top five quarterback earlier this. I don't think anybody's starting him. I don't think he's a top. Like, we were ranking him as a top five quarterback earlier this year.
I don't think we can do that now.
But I think he's still a top ten quarterback.
Yeah, you just look at what the Rams have done,
and you throw out the Lamar Jackson game in Week 12,
and their defense has been 19 points or less in every game since Week 6.
Well, it's the...
It's this, Jamie.
They've had three horrible games defensively
against the Bucs, Seahawks,
and Ravens.
And other than that, they've been arguably
the best defense in football, basically.
So, I mean, that's...
Yeah, I mean, it's not... I don't think it's an easy
scenario for Dak. I'm not going to
bench Dak. I'm not going to play Derek Carr or Eli Manning over Dak,
but I think he's not the best quarterback in this game.
I don't think you asked Garoppolo.
I would take Garoppolo based on his matchup over Dak Prescott.
So you're hoping that Dak's magic at home helps him out this week.
You're hoping that the Rams defense gives up some potential big plays
that Amari Cooper and Michael
Gallup help him out. But I don't think
it's... I'm not playing Dak in daily.
I don't think it's a good play at all.
He's been helped by how bad his defense is
because he's thrown 44 or more passes
in four of those five games that
they've mentioned. When he's had the good games, he's throwing the ball
a ton. And if he's going to throw 40
passes, he's going to have a good game.
It really doesn't matter who he's playing. Maybe he's playing the Patriots. passes, he's going to have a good game. It really doesn't matter who he's playing. Unless maybe he's playing the Patriots.
Alright, let's go on to our
next game. Tyler Higbee we love.
If Gerald Everett's out, we love Tyler Higbee.
I guess if Gerald Everett plays,
would you just sit Tyler Higbee?
Gerald Everett, I don't think he's playing.
Okay, good.
He might be a low end.
He might be like the 12th ranked tight end
if Everett's playing.
You'd obviously not feel as good about him.
Tampa Bay at Detroit,
Jameis Winston, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff.
How would you rank them?
Winston over those guys as long as he's healthy.
And I really think it comes down
to what we learn on Friday about him.
If we're seeing on Friday
that he's still trying to get his grip back and is questionable,
then I'm not going to feel good about starting Jameis Winston.
It stinks. It's the Lions.
This is an easy matchup.
Should get like 400 yards and nine touchdowns.
But if you can't throw, you can't throw.
Yeah, so then what about Chris Godwin then?
Yeah, it's bad.
I would still start Godwin even if it's Ryan Griffin,
but I would not be trusting Prashad Pariaman or Justin Watson.
I think O.J. Howard would be okay, but not to the same level.
But you'd clearly want Jameis in there for this one.
You'd have lowered expectations for Godwin, right?
Lowered expectations.
So I think this is a pretty easy game, right?
You're not starting a Detroit running back.
Kenny Galladay against the best matchup in fantasy is a must.
Chris Godwin, you're starting.
And then you've got those sleeper wide receivers.
Who is your favorite sleeper wide receiver in this game?
Would it be Amendola?
It's Amendola and PPR.
And non-PPR, it's more of a grab bag.
I'd probably take Watson over Perryman and Amandola in non-PPR.
But it's just a matter of now with Scotty Miller back,
what happens to all these guys?
So I don't think there's a slam dunk either way.
I'm going to be like Brewster's Millions and say none of the above
because I don't think there's anybody here that's totally reliable.
My favorite, if Winston were healthy, would actually be Perryman. But I don't feel great
about any of these guys. I'd be nervous starting any of them this week. I know you might be forced
to. If we're talking about silliest upside, I think it's Perryman. Yeah, and he's owned it
like a lot. He's been picked up in a lot of leagues people are kind of in on
Perryman this week uh would you start Ronald Jones over any of those wide receivers that
aren't Galladay or Godwin oh god yeah I I don't I don't know if I could that just that makes this
whole situation even worse I mean what we know about Ronald Jones is that he's splitting first
and second down work with Peyton Barber.
He's not even good enough to shed Peyton Barber away, and he's not good enough to have that two-minute drill roll or the third down roll that goes to Agumbo Wally.
Could it all change?
Maybe.
I mean, I watched him just for fun.
I went and saw what his pass protection looked like last week.
He had two tries.
He did great both times.
I'm sure Bruce Arians was thrilled with it,
but there's nothing there to be excited about with Ronald Jones.
So you know what?
I'll take the flyer on Perryman over Rojo.
All right.
Yeah, I hope.
I don't think a lot of people are going to be starting Ronald Jones,
but some of you might, and the Lions,
they don't have a bad run defense per se.
They give up 4.12 yards per carry, I think, to running backs,
but they give up the fourth most fantasy points to running backs. They give up touchdowns and yards per carry, I think, to running backs, but they give up the fourth most fantasy points to
running backs. They give up touchdowns and receiving
yards. Their defense is just not good.
One of the two guys is going to have a
big game, but a good enough game.
Like, they'll score. One of
them will score. Yeah, I just look at, you know, Ronald
Jones has three catches or more in
three of his last five games, and so with the
depleted receiving core, he's going to do that
more than Peyton Barber. Will he do it more than Daria Gumbawale?
I mean, the numbers suggest that's the case.
So it's not a slam dunk.
I agree with Dave.
If you want to take a chance on who has the most upside,
it's probably somebody like Perryman or Watson.
But I think there's a more likely chance
that Ronald Jones has a better game
than anybody not named Chris Godwin or O.J. Howard.
Yeah, where's O.J. Howard for you?
He's got a chance.
I mean, he's got 11 PPR points back-to-back games.
His targets have been up.
He profiles as somebody that you can use as a wide receiver,
just based on his athleticism.
So if I'm Bruce Arians, I'm like, okay, let's go.
Go basically be our second wideout, our third wideout,
and not do the same things Mike Evans does,
but he's going to have, I think, an uptick in targets,
and I like the setup for him against Detroit.
11 PPR points his last two games.
I like him better in that format than non-PPR.
All of you OJ Howard owners, you've been so frustrated.
You drafted him.
You stuck with him, right?
You started him every week.
You took the good with the bad,
and now it's going to pay off in the playoffs.
All right, Denver at Kansas City.
So, Drew Locks it.
Cortland Sutton, we talked about a lot yesterday.
Who would you rather have in your lineup, Phillip Lindsay or Cortland Sutton?
Lindsay.
I'd rather have Lindsay.
Cortland Sutton or Emmanuel Sanders, Deebo Samuel?
The 249ers guys.
Yeah.
Okay.
Remember that stat.
Not one wide receiver has had 60 yards at Kansas City.
Not one visiting wide receiver.
Not yet.
But if Will Fuller caught those touchdowns, he would have been the best.
It's true.
If he did catch those touchdowns,
it would have been a little bit of a different conversation.
But you guys don't hate Cortland Sutton.
He's okay. I think he makes the cut as a little bit of a different conversation. But you guys don't hate Corlin Sutton. He's okay.
I think he makes the cut as a top 24
receiver in PPR. A little bit tougher
in non-PPR.
Phillip Lindsay or Ronald Jones?
Lindsay.
Lindsay, yeah.
Phillip Lindsay or, here's a random one,
Keenan Allen.
Allen. Keenan Allen. Allen.
Keenan Allen.
Okay.
Noah Fant or OJ Howard?
OJ.
OJ.
I don't love Fant this week.
I don't think the foot injury is a real issue, though.
But it's the foot and the hip injury.
It just sounds like he got stepped on.
The hip is a bigger deal.
And the fact that busted plays are the only way that he has good numbers,
that's a bigger deal.
Yep.
As far as the Chiefs go, look, Tyreek Hill's had some kind of tough history against Denver.
Mahomes hasn't been playing that well.
Are you hesitating on any of the big three with the Chiefs?
You mean Watkins, Thompson, and Hardman?
DeMarcus Robinson.
No, I'm not hesitating on those three guys.
All right, Mahomes is top five.
Who would you start over him?
Drew Brees and the guy who played last night,
not named, Darnold.
I'd start Watson over him.
That's it.
Right now, I have Winston ahead of him.
That's going to change.
Okay, yeah.
And the Kansas City running backs.
So if Damian Williams plays, just run for the hills.
But if Damian Williams doesn't play, how would you feel about the Sean McCoy?
I'm sorry.
I couldn't hear you.
I was already running for the hills.
McCoy would be a flex.
Yeah, come on now.
He could get 13 touches and do well. I don't mind McCoy. I didn't like him last week because the matchup was terrible running for the hills. McCoy would be a flex. No, yeah, come on now. He could get 13 touches and do well.
I don't mind McCoy. I didn't like him last week because
the matchup was terrible against the Patriots, and
they just do a good job in limiting fantasy
production. The Broncos, not the same thing.
So I would start McCoy
as a flex, and I
wouldn't trust Thompson just
yet. The one thing would be is that
you're talking about a situation
of what we saw the last time
when they were in the spot where he got a chance to kill a clock.
Can't hear you. I'm over here in the hills.
The Broncos defense is not playing very well lately.
The last three lead running backs they've faced have all ran for like five yards per carry.
Yeah, McCoy's not bad if Damian Williams is up.
Yeah, that was Singletary, Gordon, and Hyde.
They've been right around five yards per carry.
All right, then.
We're moving on.
Chiefs DST, I think, is a sneaky little play.
They're my FanDuel DST, and they are 7th for Jamie, 13th for Dave, and 23rd for Heath.
They've been good three games in a row.
Yep.
All right.
And they had nine sacks.
Different quarterback, right?
Nine sacks.
Nine sacks last time they faced Denver.
Philadelphia, Washington, our last game.
We are getting away from the quarterbacks here.
Who's the best running back
in this game?
It's
Sanders.
For me, it's not by a lot
ahead of Adrian Peterson, at least
in non-PPR.
Who's the best?
I'm sorry, Jamie. Who's the best wide receiver
in this game?
McCorn.
It's by default.
McCorn's got at least 12 PPR points
in two of his last three.
I wouldn't be surprised if he plays well against the secondary.
He beat them up the first time they met.
Dave, I have to ask you
a tough question. Don't run.
Okay.
The Sean McCoy, if Damian Williams is out or Terry McLovin McLovin okay so uh Boston Scott a lot of people picked him up
what do you think about Boston Scott he had a huge game last week I wonder if you could squeeze out
nine or ten PPR points from him because I think that he will stay involved to
a degree in what they're doing. This is if Jordan Howard's out and maybe even if Jordan Howard plays
their look, they need guys who can catch the ball and make a play after the catch. They don't have
a lot of those guys right now and he's can do that and he's got speed to help him do that.
He's Darren Sproles. However, he used to view Darren Sproles when things were working well
for him. That's what you should think of Boston Scott. So I think he's better for his team than he is
for fantasy.
He's just going to be one of those guys that's a little bit
like Tariq Cohen, like what Tariq Cohen has
been the majority of the season.
Chris Thompson, that's the same type of guy.
So there'll be some
good PPR
moments. This could be one of those
games. I don't think he's going to necessarily score.
Just keep in mind that the game last week, Miles Sanders was dealing with cramping and left the
game. So if Sanders is fine, those opportunities may not be the same. So I think Scott's a
desperation play if you're talking about where he stacks up for the running backs this week.
Can I read a quick quote from the Eagles offensive coordinator on Boston, Scott,
who said, when Boston's been given his opportunity, I think he's maximized his opportunities. And
usually when players do that, then they earn more opportunities and they get the chance to get the
ball more and they see more playing time. And then you can really put a body of work together.
This is from an offensive coordinator. His name's Mike Groh. He never says anything.
So I literally coach speak nonstop.
So I think him saying that lets you know that Boston Scott's going to do
something.
He's going to have a part in this offense.
I don't know if it's going to be that big.
He could be a fan duel, a sneaky play and fan duel.
And if you want to hear more about Miles Sanders,
I mean, we've talked about him a lot throughout today's show.
We also debated him on yesterday's show during the rankings debate segment. So if you want to just look for the time
codes there, Dave's a little lower on him, round 24th. Jamie and Heath are more like 15th or so
with Miles Sanders. So you get a lot of work against the Redskins. You should be really good.
And I think the last guy I want to talk about here is Dallas Goddard. It's kind of like Mike
Kosicki. He should get targets. He hasn't really
been that good lately, but
there's an opportunity. Who would you
rather have, Gasicki or Goddard?
I think
I feel a little bit better with Goddard than
Gasicki. Yeah, Gasicki by a lot for me.
How come?
Just a matchup. And if Devante
Parker's out, Parker's in, it's closer. But if
Parker's out, then it's Gasicki. I feel safer with Goddard.
We've seen the 7, 8, 12 PPR range for him.
We've seen Kosicki all over the place.
I'm just, I feel better about Goddard.
Yeah.
Especially against Washington.
At this point,
I take a much smaller sample size.
So the last three weeks,
it's been Kosicki better than Goddard.
Not last week.
But Kosicki's better.
No, last week they were both stuck.
Yeah.
Well, hopefully if Tyler Hickley. All right, everybody. Thank you they were both stunk. Well, hopefully we have Tyler Hickley.
Alright, everybody.
Thank you for listening. Good luck.
I'm going to read so many of your questions
on the Mailbag Show, so
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I'm thinking at least 50.
At least 50.
A lot of questions.
For Dave, for Jamie, I'm Adam. Dave, I'm ready.
Ready? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, I'm Adam. Dave, I'm ready. Ready now.