Fantasy Football Today - 12/17: Waiver Wire! Let's Win Some Leagues! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 17, 2019

One last week (for most of you) to play the Waiver Wire! We'll tell you who we're prioritizing this week with Breshad Perriman, Anthony Miller, Mike Boone and Kerryon Johnson as the headliners. And we...'ll get into what to do about the MIN backfield with so much uncertainty there ... Top priorities at QB (11:15) including Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andy Dalton, RB (13:04) including Boone, Johnson, Patrick Laird and Boston Scott, WR (15:08) including Williams and Danny Amendola, TE (18:30) including Jacob Hollister and O.J. Howard, DST (20:30) and Kicker ... Can we still trust (24:10) players like Jameis Winston, Julian Edelman, T.Y. Hilton and some others who are in tough spots? And let's recap the NO-IND game (31:15) and then take a longer look at the Waiver Wire at each position (36:36) to finish the show ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Let's hit the waiver wire. Let's go!
Starting point is 00:01:16 Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. Will Prashad Perryman, Anthony Miller, Jacob Hollister, and Ryan Fitzpatrick win you a fantasy league just like we predicted back in August? Welcome. It's week 16. It's waiver wire time. Yeah. One more. Maybe two more for some of you, but for most of you, one more big night of waiver claims.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Isenberg. Guys, are we ready to win some leagues? Yes. We've been ready since we were born, Adam. So, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Born ready to win some leagues.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Who are we pumped up about this week? Mike Boone. Let's go. If it's Mike Boone. Hopefully it's Mike Boone. Hopefully it's Dalvin Cook. Well, do we want a Dalvin Cook that could potentially leave in the game like he has a couple times lately? Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Or do we just want to go right to Mike Boone? Or it could be a Cook, Boone, Madison, Abdullah disaster. Anything with Abdullah is a disaster. Well, it starts with that situation, right? Because talking to Dr. Chow yesterday, he said it didn't look like a re-injury of that same AC injury that Dalvin Cook had, which he thought was a good sign because you don't want him to have the same, oddly enough, same shoulder, but a different injury on that shoulder. So he thought maybe it was just more precautionary that they held him out. And they already said Dalvin Cook is looking like he's going to play.
Starting point is 00:02:46 So should we use our first waiver claim on a Vikings running back, be it Mike Boone or Alexander Madison, or is this going to be Dalvin Cook playing again? You don't have to. I mean, the way I wrote it, and I'll say the same thing, this is not the third time we've gone through this scenario with him and then once with the Raiders, where there's a potential
Starting point is 00:03:05 league winner you could pick up off waivers and if that happens you're going to have a great starting option on your fantasy roster and the two previous times it didn't work because clearly cook played and then last week josh jacobs played but it's just a matter of i think what you're looking for and what you need because the guys behind him carry on johnson could be great it could be an absolute steal of a of a scenario to get the lion starting running back who when we started the season was a second round pick coming back and fresh legs if his knee is fine or he may not play in week 16 you know there's just no guarantee of him being back there for the lions and then the third guy for me is boston scott uh more ppr than non-ppr and you kind of run the risk in a non-PPR league of six, seven points.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So it's just a matter of what your fantasy team looks like going into your championship game. The hope is you don't need any of these guys. That's the obvious answer. But I think for me, I'd rather still take the chance on the home run. That's the way I'll always play and win or lose the pickup. I'm going to put in for Mike Boone first. All we know right now is Dalvin Cook leaving the game, and who knows if they're going to decide to rest him at some point. But if I could add a quick wrinkle to this,
Starting point is 00:04:15 let's say I'm playing Jamie in the finals, and Jamie's the one seed and I'm the two seed, so I'm ahead of him on the waiver order, and he has Dalvin Cook on his team, and he doesn't have Mike Boone. Of course my first waiver claim is going to be to get Mike Boone to keep him away from him. So I think Mike Boone should be a priority in that regard as well. So this is an example of when you do check your opponent's lineup, who they have, and whether or not it matters.
Starting point is 00:04:36 If your opponent has weak running backs going into the final or semifinal, make the play for Boone. And obviously it could be Kerryon Johnson. And I think you're going to see a lot of waiver lists. You know, for me, it's one and one a, because I think carry on could be great.
Starting point is 00:04:50 You know, the Broncos, who knows where they're at defensively in terms of how they're approaching things. You know, we've talked about this a lot over the years. No, Derek Wolf,
Starting point is 00:04:57 the run defense has been up and down whenever they haven't had him on the field and he's done. So last week, I don't know if that's a great example of what the run defense is because they're playing the chiefs in the snow. But I think that if it's carry on Johnson as the starter for the Lions and Dalvin Cook plays, you obviously want to prioritize carry on. So it's just a matter of, you know, we got some complaints. I got some complaints about recommending DeAndre Washington over Raheem Mostert last week.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Now, obviously, Mostert didn't have a great game, but it's just the way that I tend to play fantasy and how I will always advise people to play fantasy is to go for the higher ceiling. And so I think in this case, Mike Boone is the higher ceiling. Yeah, but... Yeah, okay. Checking your opponent's team is really important too, as Dave mentioned, because if you...
Starting point is 00:05:42 There are a lot of teams that don't need Mike Boone, and they wouldn't start Mike Boone even even if he were the clear cut starter. And if that's the case and you don't need him, then don't get them get Rashad Perryman or Anthony Miller or something like that, or a tight end or a quarterback. And I actually, you know, I think those, those wide receivers might be in higher demand. I'm not just guessing here. No, they probably are. I mean, you have a lot of injuries in that position, more so than the uncertainty of Dalvin Cook or what the potential of carry-on could be.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I mean, if you could pick up Anthony Miller or Brashad Perryman at this point, they should be the higher priority. Okay, so let's start with that then. Let's start with our overall highest priorities this week, and then we'll kind of give a few names at each position, and then we'll go deeper into everything later on in the show. But just, all right, we got Mike Boone and Madison is obviously, like we don't know what the situation is there.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So, you know, you've got three running backs, Cook, Madison, and Boone. But let me ask you this real quick on that. If Cook is out and Madison is out, and the report yesterday was that Cook was, you know, it looked like he was going to play. But let's say they're both out. Does that mean Mike Boone gets starters workload? Or would they kind of change things up from last week?
Starting point is 00:06:50 My guess is that Boone would get the majority and Amir Abdullah would help him out. Abdullah would play on passing downs. That's the way they operated against chargers. So it was pretty obvious passing situations. Abdullah seemed to be in there. Boone was the one clearly running between the tackles and he got the goal line opportunity so i would view boone as a top 20 running back uh we had a fun conversation on hq yesterday about this heath was like i don't know
Starting point is 00:07:13 i haven't done my rankings yet i don't know where i'm gonna put him then pete and i were like heath if he's the starter for the vikings he's the he's a top 20 right at home against the packers yeah i mean maybe higher than top 20 it's uh it it's a great setup for him if he's the guy that's the reason why i think you shoot for the stars with somebody like this whereas carry on i think it's because that's the comparison we're going to be talking about all throughout the week is if he's the starter they're in the same range but you this vikings offense has proven that they can run the ball with a ton of success. I mean, you know, looking at Madison and the backup role, obviously what Cook has done to be a star. So I think you saw what the potential for Boone could be, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:52 60 to 80 yards rushing probably and the chance to score, you know, maybe multiple touchdowns. Whereas carry-ons on a Lions team that's had a hard time running the ball pretty much all year long. They've actually done a better job since the quarterback change, ironically enough. Yeah, well, I mean, they gave Bo Scarborough a pretty big workload, but here's the non-PPR fantasy points for Kerryon Johnson in his six games.
Starting point is 00:08:18 In your mind, you may not remember, and what I remember was he wasn't very effective running the football, but he still scored 5, 14, 9, 13, and 11. Nine or more non-PPR fantasy points in five of six games. Wasn't big catching the ball, but if you can get 10 fantasy points, that's flex-worthy right there in non-PPR. Maybe like 12, 13 in PPR. And Denver's running defense was pretty bad before the Kansas City game. They had allowed, you know, recently, five yards per carry or more to Devin Singletary,
Starting point is 00:08:48 Melvin Gordon, and Carlos Hyde in three straight weeks before facing the Chiefs. All right, so let's talk about those wide receivers, though. Rashad, I will say just real quick for you. I'm sorry. If both guys are starting, Boone and Carrion, I'm still taking Boone over Carrion. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Me too. No, me too. No, makes sense, absolutely. Now, who do you prefer, Miller or Perryman? That's a tough question. Miller. Perryman. See, it's tough, everybody. Go ahead, make your case real quick.
Starting point is 00:09:17 They're both great. I'd love to have them both, and maybe you give a slight lean to Miller in full PPR, but I'm looking at a receiver in Perryman who's played lights out the last three weeks. His catch rate's been above 70%. He's the number one receiver going up against a Texans defense that's allowed
Starting point is 00:09:31 100 yards and a touchdown to a pass catcher each of the last three games. He's going to get big volume. Bucks can't run the football. Brashad Perriman's going to get deep targets. He's caught seven of nine deep targets in his last three games. He's been awesome. And the Bucks don't have a choice. They're going to ride this kid. They're going to continue to targets he's caught seven of nine deep targets in his last three games he's been awesome and the bucks don't have a choice they've they're gonna ride this kid they're gonna continue to see what he can do and see just how much he's developed and i'm i'm sticking with
Starting point is 00:09:53 him if i've got him he's a top 20 receiver for me this week i agree i just think miller's in a better spot because you've seen the production from him over a four game sample size where he's been better than perryman in two of the last three weeks and his targets are going to be higher because they have been higher. I mean, you're talking about a guy that in three of his last four of his last five games, nine or more targets. So Perryman, I think, is still going to see his six to eight targets. I don't think we're going to see a dramatic spike because you will see Justin Watson more involved. You'll see the tight ends involved for Tampa Bay. I think Miller right now is locked into this role of he's the go-to guy for Mitchell Trubisky right now in a matchup that's almost similar. You know, you see these two secondaries, how they've played recently. They've given up really production to one guy
Starting point is 00:10:33 over the course of the last six or seven weeks. Now, these are both offenses that I think Tampa Bay just by volume, Chicago, based on the two guys of Robinson and Miller, those guys will get their numbers. But I just think Miller's a little bit safer right now based on what we've seen and how Trubisky's using him. Yeah, so I think that their ownership levels are still pretty low. So it looks like they're available in a lot of leagues. But it's quite possible that Miller and Perryman were hot pickups last week, and they're already owned in your league.
Starting point is 00:11:01 So we will, of course, talk about more wide receivers, like maybe A.J. Green's available. Danny Amendola had 13 targets. That's eight or more targets in three straight games. He's at Denver this week. Greg Ward is very interesting. And even Nelson Aguilar, if he comes back, those guys are pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Deontay Johnson maybe could benefit from Mason Rudolph coming back. Mason Rudolph and Deontay Johnson, there were five games in which both players started and finished the game. And Deontay Johnson in those games, he had 52, 77, 84, 3, and 64 yards with a touchdown in three of those five games. He was better than James Washington most of the time with Mason Rudolph. So we'll get into that. Jaguars wide receiver, maybe you can take a shot on.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And then hopefully you can find a guy like Terry McLaurin, who could be amazing this week against the Giants or Mike Williams facing a team that gives up the most 40 plus yard pass plays in the NFL he's facing the Raiders, that's Mike Williams so we'll get into that Boston Scott was mentioned Patrick Laird is going to be very interesting this week
Starting point is 00:12:01 if he gets those 15 carries against the Bengals you know what happens when you those 15 carries against the Bengals, you know what happens when you get 15 carries against the Bengals. The worst in the last two years was last week. Sonny Michel, and he had 89 yards. He had, I think, 18 carries. He had over 100 total. A lot of names to throw out. Yeah, he had over 100 total yards. That's right. Bengals run defense so
Starting point is 00:12:18 bad. So a lot of names to throw out at you. Those are the overall top priorities. Let's just give some more names now, guys. Give me your top three at each position. Jamie, quarterback this week. Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's been pretty successful in the last month when he's had Devontae Parker on the field,
Starting point is 00:12:34 so I think that will continue. Hopefully Parker's not going to get hurt between now and Sunday. It's another one of Fitzpatrick's 100 revenge games. Minshew, I think, just against the Falcons, he's been better on the road than he has been at home. Dalton, because it's the Dolphins and maybe with the return of A.J. Green. So those would be my three quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'm with you on Fitzpatrick. I think it makes sense for him to be the top guy. Dave, hold on. Let me ask you this. Does it bother you, because I'm starting Ryan Fitzpatrick, I confess, but does it bother you that the last four quarterbacks against the Bengals have been pretty bad? Pittsburgh quarterbacks, Sam Darnold was awful.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Baker Mayfield was awful. Tom Brady, 17 fantasy points. Does that bother you going into this game? Not really, because I think game script for the Dolphins is pretty much the same no matter who they play. And your excitement about Patrick Laird isn't felt over here. I'm not that excited to start Patrick Laird at all. It's inquisitive excitement.
Starting point is 00:13:31 It's not like absolute excitement. Yeah, it's week 16. I'm not ready for inquisitiveness in my fantasy lineup unless I'm absolutely desperate. But that being said, Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't exactly... Let's start Fitzpatrick then. Yeah, I know. He's not exactly rock solid, but he'll throw a lot Parker's
Starting point is 00:13:46 making incredible plays and I think this could actually be a back and forth game between the Bengals and the Dolphins there's not going to be a ton of defense here and if there is yeah maybe it will be on the Bengals side but Fitzpatrick just continues to gun it so I I see him as a good the best streamer I'll have Dalton second behind fitzpatrick both of those two at the top all right the running backs mike boone or alexander madison carry on johnson and then jamie mentioned boston scott i'm assuming only in ppr i mean he's obviously better in ppr but you know if you're desperate yeah and we don't know that carry on johnson's coming back so it seems as if he is you know he said he has no setback the lions have been using him in practice
Starting point is 00:14:31 a little bit so you know it's like if you're looking at it from the standpoint of he wants to play you let him play if i'm the lions i'm like no yeah i mean it begs the question why right because you're you're talking about a a guy that hasn't been able to play significant stretches of the last two seasons. His rookie year, he finished on IR. He missed eight games this year going on IR. So what's the point of doing further damage to a guy just to play in two games?
Starting point is 00:14:56 So I would personally hold him out, but I can understand him wanting to be out there, and if the Lions feel like he's okay, they'll play him. Yeah, and Patrick Laird could be someone that you're looking at in maybe a deeper league him wanting to be out there. And if the Lions feel like he's okay, they'll play him. Yeah. And Patrick Laird could be someone that you're looking at in maybe a deeper league. I don't know. I don't like that he was benched, it seemed.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I don't know. They went to Gaskin a little bit. They went to Gaskin, and Gaskin did all right. I don't like that. I wonder if Gaskin should be on this list. He is. But not in the top five no i put the dolphins guys together okay so he's six he's there you just can't see him on the screen and and as you
Starting point is 00:15:32 see gas layered like adam said he's 55 on most people that are playing at this point have either picked him up or he's sitting on somebody's roster that are in playoffs because we've been talking about him for the last month right wide receiver is per is Perryman and Miller in some order at the top. Oh, by the way, Adrian Peterson is 75% owned, and he gets the Giants who, I keep saying, they've been pretty good against the run, but he's probably going to get 15 to 20 carries. It's a pretty safe track record with him.
Starting point is 00:15:59 He's gotten seven games this season with 13 or more carries, and six of them he's gotten 11 or more PPR points. There you go. He'll get you usually, I don't know, 20 receiving yards or something like that, so it's not all the rushing. Wide receiver, okay, so Miller, Perryman, who's next if you can't get those guys?
Starting point is 00:16:18 I mean, I think it's kind of format-specific. Conley, as you saw, they sort of divided the targets evenly among the Jaguars receivers and it's a good matchup against Atlanta so you know as long as DJ Chark is out but that's something that's a little bit of an uncertainty right now because he was running around on Monday so there's a chance that maybe he returns I doubt it but you know Conley did score the two touchdowns from Minshew and as we've seen you know they've sort of been back and forth with Westbrook and Conley but it's hard to
Starting point is 00:16:43 overlook what Amadola's been the last three games with eight or more targets. And then you said the first game without Marvin Jones, it's a matchup where most likely Chris Harris will follow Kenny Galladay. We've seen the second receiver against Denver have success a lot of times this season. So I think Amendola's gotten the attention of David Blau, and it was successful last week.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I wouldn't be surprised if it's successful again. Are you going to start Amendola over Kenny Galladay? I am in PPR. I get that. It's hard to do, though, man. Really hard to do. Because Amendola, we know that one week he could have this 100-yard game and eight catches, and then the next week it's three for 40.
Starting point is 00:17:20 It's been like that with Galladay since Stafford's been out, too. He's had two good games. Well, he's scored twice. I mean, it's not like I'm really excited about either. either yeah that's the problem I I think you look at it the targets uh in the last three games have been so heavily in favor of Amendola and so I thought last week without Gallaudet without Marvin Jones there and um you know factoring in which helps Amendola uh TJ Hawkinson being out for the last two games against Tampa Bay that Gallaudet would have a monster game. And the targets didn't change.
Starting point is 00:17:48 He's just getting the ball out quick. And you get some of the shot plays to Gallaudet like we saw Thanksgiving, for example. But it's just not the same. He's just not getting the same attention. And if Chris Harris is going to follow him, which that's kind of been what the Broncos have done, I don't think he's going to have the Tyreek Hill game in the snow.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Gallaudet could obviously out-physical Chris Harris because he's just such a bigger guy. But I think at this point, with David Blau, with what we've seen from Gallaudet, I'll take my chances with Amendola and PPR just with the hope that those targets convert to catches. I'll give you a quick wrinkle on that. If Carrion comes back, does that hurt Amendola?
Starting point is 00:18:26 No, because they've used McKissick in the passing passing game so right and then he got hurt last week yeah but i think that helped contribute the fact they couldn't run i think i think it all added up for amandola i almost want things to stay the same in in detroit so that amandola can hit the potential you're talking about okay um and you know i'm looking at one of my waiver wires right now in a 12-team league with industry people. So it's not like fantasy players. Is this a humble brag? Oh, look at me. I made the waiver wire.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I made the finals with industry people. Well, look, my wide receivers in this league are Kenny Galladay and T.Y. Hilton. So I need the waiver wire. So you didn't make it. Perryman is going to be my first priority. No, I'm in. I'm in the finals.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Oh, okay. All right. Top two seeds are in the finals in this league. This was our unbelievably competitive 12-team June draft league. Perryman's there, but Jameis and Crowder's there. Cole Beasley, Danny Amendola, Chris Conley.
Starting point is 00:19:16 There will be some options here. By the way, I also wanted to mention for Brashad Perryman an injury I didn't talk about on Sunday, but I did on Monday. Scott Miller, Scotty Miller, getting an MRI on his hamstring. So that's another wide receiver down and maybe even more targets for Rashad Perryman. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Let's see, tight ends. Who are the ones we're prioritizing this week? And let's start with this. Do you trust Tyler Higbee at San Francisco? Yes. Yeah. Next question. Well, Jared Goff's got the thumb.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Jared Goff's got the bruised thumb. So, you know, but okay, fair enough. Who are the other tight ends that we've been looking at if you see them on your waiver wire? Yeah, I went back and forth with Hollister and OJ Howard. Just, you know, what the option
Starting point is 00:19:57 could be for Howard now that there's another receiver down, but it's Hollister against the Cardinals. And so, you know, you saw it again manifest itself with what happened against the Cardinals. And so, you know, you saw it again manifest itself with what happened against the Browns with the revenge game for Ricky Seals-Jones. The Seahawks in the first meeting,
Starting point is 00:20:13 Will Disley had seven for 56 and a touchdown on eight targets. I think without Josh Gordon there, there'll be some more playing time and some additional targets as well now that Gordon's unfortunately suspended. So I just like the option for Hollister he was a little dinged up in the game last week so just keep an eye on that but um at this point with no clear-cut guy uh and you can make a strong argument for Howard because I do think he's going
Starting point is 00:20:34 to benefit with another receiver down but I think Hollister match up I'll take my chances there I'm surprised Johnnie Smith isn't higher on the list for you. He, you know, he had the, the big run last week against the Texans and, you know, targets have been so up and down for him. Uh, first, there's obviously still in some production of the tight end spot. So he's,
Starting point is 00:20:54 he's a fine, you know, punt play if you're looking at it, but I just don't like the consistency. What an interesting game, Tennessee and new Orleans. Tell me about it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So interesting. And I think especially Tannehill is – where are you ranking Tannehill this week? And that's an important question because for the people who have been starting Ryan Tannehill, should they still start Ryan Tannehill? Because looking at the stats, I really think the Saints have a good, good pass defense. And they're adding Janoris Jenkins. So where are you ranking Tannehill? I'm assuming he'll play, but we don't know exactly what his role will be. He's still a top 10 guy for me.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm not getting away from him. I've got him eighth. Okay. If it was in New Orleans, different story. But the fact that they're at home and this is their, you know, season, have to win. So how about DSTs? Not bad options this week.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Who are your favorites? I like the Chargers. I think the Raiders are just a disaster. So they would be my first one that I'd look at. I think the Chiefs are still in play, even with Trubisky playing better. Their defense has turned the corner. And then I'll take my chances with the Colts
Starting point is 00:21:53 against Will Greer making his first start. I clearly was, like I'm sure most people, disappointed in the Colts across the board. But that was in New Orleans in a primetime game with Breeze chasing records. So I think their defense will bounce back next week. They've actually
Starting point is 00:22:09 scored, in our standard scoring league, double-digit fantasy points, the Colts, in like eight of their last ten games. I was actually pretty surprised. So yes, you can completely forget about last night's game. They've been pretty solid. They
Starting point is 00:22:26 have been two of the last three games. The defense playing against the Panthers have put up at least 15 points. Different quarterback, though. That's a typical league. Well, but yeah, it could be worried. Will Greer is a gunslinger, so he's either going to be really, really good or really, really Phillip Rivers. And if you want an example
Starting point is 00:22:42 of that, they were facing a gunslinger two games ago with Jameis, and they had two pick sixes. Would you prefer Dallas Goddard over Jacob Hollister or OJ Howard? You can. I mean, with the receiving core being what it is, his role is clearly solidified. Ten or more PPR points.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Would you? No, I like the other two guys better. I would take Hollister at the top of that better i would take hollister i would take hollister at the top of that list and non-ppr ppr2 and kickers to consider young way coup uh kaimi fairbairn chase mclaughlin you gotta look at weather for the kicking game and you don't have to make the decision on tuesday night but uh try to get someone in a dome or in beautiful sunny weather. And again, it's something you can do later on in the week.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Greg Zerline's hurt, too. Tough matchup, also. Greg Zerline. Yes, he is. Here's an email of the day from Marty. When do we get Dave's good luck pickup? I'm not going to pick up the good luck pickup until later in the week. Why don't we announce it on Friday?
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Starting point is 00:25:23 at Indianapolis. Just DJ Moore ah I kind of like Curtis Samuel too though I would like them both if if it were Kyle Allen under center there's a bit of a re-evaluation going with with Greer but I think they're good and I think we know what they are I think they're good, and I think we know what they are. I think Samuel works as a flex this week. T.Y. Hilton against Carolina. He also works as a flex, but I think I'm actually more into Samuel. Yeah, I'd play Hilton over Samuel, but don't love either one. But you'd play Perryman and Miller. Yes. Would you play Amendola over T.Y. Hilton?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yes, in PPR. PPR, sure. Asking for a friend. Yes. Julian Edelman against Buffalo. It's risky now. I mean, I think if he practices in some limited capacity and he's out there, you've got to trust it.
Starting point is 00:26:17 But the fact that he's playing with this knee condition is a little concerning. You know, I'd take a look at Mohamed Sanu or maybe Nikhil Harry if you're in a deeper league just with the chance of if they do decide to sit Edelman for any reason. Jacoby. Well, I mean, Sanu would be the one that would fill in most likely with the targets
Starting point is 00:26:34 because he led the team in targets last week. Okay, it's true. It's true. But I think Jacoby is their next best receiver. And Edelman actually had a pretty bad game against the Bills. Four catches for 30 yards on seven targets. Not as bad as it was against the bengals no not quite the deep but he's banged up i mean it's you know it's been said uh the rams wide receivers with this jared golf news and they're at san francisco i still start woods um you know last week was disappointing but the
Starting point is 00:27:02 targets were still there for him uh cup is more of a borderline starter. Well, let's run through the news and notes, see if we missed anything. Can we walk? Dalvin Cook. Yeah. All right, Dalvin Cook. A little stroll through the news and notes.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Hey, Jared Goff's over there with that bruised thumb. Hey, Jared. Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, pardon me, has a finger injury, but doesn't seem to be a big deal. Daniel Jones could play this week at Washington. The Steelers might go back to Mason Rudolph. They're at the Jets.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Chris Godwin likely out. We know that. And Scotty Miller with the hamstring injury. Kerryon Johnson could return. Julian Edelman. Odell Beckham plans to play. If you want to start him, have fun. He's facing Baltimore this week.
Starting point is 00:27:45 A.J. Green may return this week. Come on, A.J. Green. Make things complicated. Give us something to talk about. D.J. Chark may play this week. He was cleared to do some running. Dr. Chow does not think D.J. Chark will play this week. Carolina's starting Will Greer at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Greg Olson's out of the concussion protocol. So he's another guy you might want to pick up. Colts a little up and down against tight ends. Gave up a touchdown to Josh Hill yesterday. The Saints claim Janoris Jenkins. Hunter Renfro is expected to play. That's interesting. He's at the Chargers this week.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Does he make your waiver wire list in PPR leagues? No. Hunter Renfro. No. Nope. Okay. Josh Gordon suspended indefinitely. Kansas City claims defensive end terrell suggs
Starting point is 00:28:27 rams cornerback troy hill broke his thumb but he actually might be able to play with with a cast greg zerline as a quad strain kansas city kansas city defensive and alex okafor torres peck they've really suffered a lot on that defensive line and how do you feel about the bears offense in this matchup sund Sunday night at home against the Chiefs? I think they're going to end up having to throw in the game, which is why Miller's still top 20 type of a receiver. And you know what to do with Allen Robinson. And it makes Trubisky an interesting streaming option.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Again, I don't like the run game. Don't want to trust the run game. I think you're going to get similar performance that you got against the Packers, where Trubisky will have his yards. He probably won't have multiple touchdowns. And even if he does, I don't think he'll have a monster game. I don't love Trubisky, but I still love the receivers. I'm going to have to choose between
Starting point is 00:29:14 Trubisky and Dalton in a league. How did I make the playoffs? I don't know, but I did. Detroit defensive tackle Mike Daniels is on IR. Seattle linebacker Bobby Wagner doesn't seem to have a serious ankle injury but safety quandary digs does and a quick update on the podcast league and i just want to say dave what happened to you last night was really unfortunate uh bad beat for
Starting point is 00:29:37 you and you gotta hate when you and your opponent just obliterate the other two teams that were playing in the semi-final like you know the scores in the other two teams that were playing in the semifinal. Like, here are the scores in the podcast league last night. In one of the two matchups, Good from 43 won 144 to 82 against, I think, the number one seed, Dan Murata. Just laid an egg. But then the other matchup was Heath versus Dave. Heath wins 195 to 193 he needed 28 points from Michael Thomas to tie he got 30 at what point on the opening drive did you know that Michael
Starting point is 00:30:17 Thomas was going to beat you it was the touchdown that he scored that's when I knew and I started texting Heath I said good game you got it and then i keep kept sending those you know the the the congratulatory text to try and reverse kibosh little thing and uh yeah that wasn't happening michael thomas wasn't having having anything like that and there was nothing i could have done i started the best possible lineup i could have i got real fortunate i got you know huge game from saquon and chris carson anthony miller i started mostert uh honestly my my best bench player had eight fantasy points there's no Huge game from Saquon and Chris Carson, Anthony Miller. I started Mostert. Honestly, my best bench player had eight fantasy points. There's no regrettable decision that I could have made.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Just ran into Michael Thomas and Lamar Jackson. I ran into those guys in two leagues. And that's why I'm only in three finals. Wow. Looking at overall scores in PPR, Lamar Jackson leads the way. Six points for passing touchdown PPR. 437PR, Lamar Jackson leads the way. Six points per passing touchdown PPR. 437 points for Lamar Jackson. Christian McCaffrey has 403. This is non-decimal scoring.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Then it's Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott. So four of your top five are quarterbacks. Number six is a tie, Jameis Winston and Michael Thomas. And they're 40 points ahead of the next best players in the six-point-per-passing touchdown PPR format. So Michael Thomas, second-best non-quarterback behind Christian McCaffrey. Just a quick note to all of our listeners,
Starting point is 00:31:36 please stop using bench points as a tiebreaker. It's bad, it's dumb. Don't do it. It's unfair. Quick stat of the day that I heard on Colin Coward's show yesterday. This was so crazy. It's not relevant for today's the day that I heard on Colin Coward's show yesterday. This was so crazy. It's not relevant for today's show, but I'm going to say it anyway. Aaron Rodgers, really good in the first quarter,
Starting point is 00:31:52 but in his last six games, quarters two through four, he is completing 57% of his passes. He has an 81 passer rating, and he has four touchdowns in 18 quarters. That's the second, third, and fourth quarter in his last six games. Very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Their scripting plays well. And then it's not adjusting. It's a credit to their team that they're as successful as they are because usually teams that don't adjust like this don't have as much success. So let's take a look at the Saints and the Colts 34-7. Drew Brees prime time at home.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Pretty predictable. By the way, Lamar Jackson prime time. That's the new thing. He's going to score five touchdowns every time, whatever. But Drew Brees is amazing in this spot. Yeah, he's the new Brees. And anything else to say about this game, guys? This probably won't matter anymore. But Traquan Smith has scored a touchdown in four of five home games with Drew Brees this year. What were you laughing at, Dave? You're just ready to be done with this game as soon as we get into it.
Starting point is 00:32:53 It was just funny to me. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Let's talk about Kamara. Well, I was actually going to talk about Marlon Mack, but sure, let's talk about Kamara and how in a game that the Saints are so successful, he's's just not putting up huge numbers i think he continues to be viewed as a number two fantasy running back certainly in non-ppr maybe closer to top 12 in ppr but it's it's been
Starting point is 00:33:16 frustrating but if you've made it this far with camara you'd have to have really good options to put him down it's the the fomo factor with him The last thing you want to do is put him on your bench and that's the week he goes nuts. Imagine if you had done that with Saquon Barkley this week. Right. You're starting him by default every week. Right. You're not going to start Mike Boone over him.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I don't know what to say. Everyone's out. Yeah, I would. It makes sense. I think I might with Madison. If Cook were out and Madison were playing, I think... If there's one guy in that backfield for Minnesota, he's going
Starting point is 00:33:54 over Kamara in my lineup. Yeah, makes sense. I mean, the problem is it's a Monday night game too. We could have the scenario of Madison could play Cook, but could play. I liked that Camara was for the second straight week getting the ball inside the five yard line just wasn't able to get in but if I were it was frustrating and then yeah if I were Sean Payton I would send him to an allergist he's allergic to the end zone he is very much larger to the end zone? He is very much allergic to the end zone. Ba-dum-tsh.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And, man, you ever had those patches on your back, like a hundred of them to test your allergies? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's so weird. Sounds like fun. Oh, it's not the worst. What about the Colts in this game? Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. Everyone bad.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Go right back to Marlon Mack. Go right back to Marlon Mack this week. He might be the start of the week. But it's the second time in like a month where the Colts have had just a ridiculously terrible game plan on the road. Like against Houston, they were doing things that we didn't expect them to do. In this game, why didn't they try running the ball even more?
Starting point is 00:35:05 And how could their offensive line not take advantage? I mean, Marlon Mack was getting stuffed in the backfield. I think it was a matter of the first drive was, oh, we got to score. And then they couldn't score. I wish I could come away from this with a better opinion about the Saints' run defense. I didn't think it was going to be good. It was exceptional, and they'll be tested by Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:35:29 The good thing is you don't have to wonder, do I start Derrick Henry? Of course you start Derrick Henry, but in your mind you're wondering, is Derrick Henry going to have 150 yards and a touchdown, or is he going to have 85 yards? So I don't know what kind of matchup it is. I suspect they're still going to be a little vulnerable
Starting point is 00:35:43 against the run. They just weren't in this particular game. So that is the Colts and the Saints. And it was a blowout. And congratulations to Drew Brees. Not only did he set the record, but he had the highest completion percentage in a game ever and one of his best games
Starting point is 00:36:02 and one of the best games we've probably ever seen from a quarterback. The incompletion was so, I don't want to say bad, but it was such an easy throw. Do you know which one it was? Who he missed? I don't even remember it. It was like an overthrow on an out route or something? No, it was a dump off pass to Latavius Murray.
Starting point is 00:36:21 He missed him. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cost him the perfect game. He sucks. So, listen, you SeatGeek, when you want to go see the Saints or
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Starting point is 00:37:48 For Jamie, it goes Fitzpatrick against the Bengals, then Gardner Minshew facing Atlanta, and then Andy Dalton in that same matchup with Fitzpatrick at Miami. And for Dave, I know you have Dalton too. Do you go Fitzpatrick, Dalton, Minshew? I don't think so. I don't think I'm as on board with Minshew as the fellas have been or will
Starting point is 00:38:08 continue to be if Drew Biskey still out there I like him I like Drew Locke against Detroit in that terrible defense I'll take him ahead of Minshew as well Drew Locke wow Drew Locke would be quite a gamble yeah well if
Starting point is 00:38:23 you're really struggling at quarterback and you somehow made it to this point and you can't get your hands on Ryan Fitzpatrick or Andy Dalton or Gardner Minshew or any, well, I would take Locke over Minshew. Of course it's a real gamble, but you've been gambling all along if that's your situation. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, so let's talk about these guys here.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Fitzpatrick, I mentioned that the last four quarterbacks against the Bengals have really struggled. Most of them haven't thrown a lot of passes not scored 20 fantasy points against the Dolphins. Maybe three. Three now with Manning being the third. So that's a great matchup. Minshew, you know, the Falcons defense, I can't really figure out. I don't get it. In their last seven games, only one quarterback has scored more than 20 fantasy points, or 20 or more, and that's Jameis Winston. Who didn't? Drew Brees
Starting point is 00:39:27 twice, Russell Wilson, Kyle Allen twice, and Jimmy Garoppolo. Is this a good matchup for Gardner Minshew? I think it's good enough, what we've seen from him on the road. I think both these guys, Dalton and Minshew, kind of live in that 20 to 22 point range. I don't think they're going to have a monster performance.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I'll change my tune on Dalton, obviously, if AJ Green plays. But you look at what he's been doing really in almost every road game this year. He's averaging 21 points per game on the road. He's been better away from Jacksonville. So I just think this Falcons defense is beatable. I think he's going to have success because they get away from their run game. That's kind of a DeFilippo thing. I don't think you're going to see them run all over the Falcons
Starting point is 00:40:06 because Fournette just hasn't been doing that. So I think they're chasing points. I think the Falcons offense will come to play. So I don't mind Mitch this week. Do you have him ranked the way you have him ranked, assuming Chark plays? No, I haven't ranked Chark. If Chark was playing, I'd probably like him a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, it's hard to get away from him if Chark's there. But I still don't see. I think Atlanta's defense will play hard. They just lost McKinley, too, so that's a big blow to their pass rush. Yeah, but their pass rush wasn't great to begin with anyway. Well, that's why they had success against Breeze and the Panthers game the first time.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Sure. He wasn't very good, though, this season, Tack McKinley. No, but he's good enough. I mean... No, I don't... You never want to lose a starting defensive end. The best way to put it is he had flashes. In that first game against New Orleans, he and Vic Beasley looked great.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I think it was Beasley. Other guys we could consider. How do you feel about the starter for the Giants, be it Manning or Daniel Jones at Washington? They're in that Drew Locke range. I like him better than Trubisky. I like the Gi like him better than trubisky i like the giant star better than trubisky uh 15 16 18 i'll take minchu when you say 15 you're talking about where where you're ranking them not how many points they're going to score right well no same uh i could be i'm not excited about eli or jones i'd rather i can rattle off five names of
Starting point is 00:41:28 quarterbacks i'd rather have one of those names would be duane that's fine by the way the redskins give up some huge games the quarterback sam donald had 33 points kyle allen had 27 carson wentz had 26 so there's yeah upside there. I think Trubisky. Giant starter will be good this week, whoever that giant starter is. I would prefer Eli to Daniel Jones for the record. I wouldn't. Mitchell Trubisky, not really feeling it. Last four quarterbacks against the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Rivers had 14 points. Carr had 10. Brady had 12. Locke had six fantasy points. All of them had a 71.8 passer rating or worse. So they appear to have gotten better. I'm a little skeptical of them on the road. Trubisky, thoughts?
Starting point is 00:42:17 I'm with you. I think it's going to be an ugly game for the Bears offense. I think it's going to be a game where Trubisky gets his yards relatively, not to the same extent that he had last week, because that was a season high for him. But I think it's going to be a game where Trubisky gets his yards relatively, not to the same extent that he had last week, because that was a season high for him. But I think he could be around 280. I think both receivers will play well, but it's a matter of will they get multiple touchdowns from those two guys.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I just don't see the Chiefs defense giving up a big game to Trubisky because he just hasn't been consistent when he's faced tougher matchups. And I bet he, what we've seen from him is good against the Lions, good against the Giants, good against the, who's the other bad one you faced in there? He struggled against the Rams. Played the Lions twice. Lions twice, and then the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:42:54 And the Cowboys. The Cowboys was the surprise. Good thing about Trubisky, though, last two games, 63 rushing yards and 29 rushing yards. Look, that's pretty good, 29 rushing yards. So at least he's doing that. Dwayne Haskins, Drew Locke. Who has more upside? Locke.
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Starting point is 00:44:10 Get a free t-shirt. Running backs to look at. Adrian Peterson, 75% owned. Let's say Adrian Peterson, Mike Boone, Kerryon Johnson, they're all available. Rank them. Boone, Johnson, Peterson, if they're all playing.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Fair. That's what I would say, too. But we're not going to know what's what by Tuesday night. Peterson is the safest of all of them by far. Because you know he's going to play. You know he's going to play, and you know he's... I mean, it seems like eight points would be surprising if he didn't get that. Great floor. Yeah. and you know he's i mean seems like eight points would be surprising if he didn't get that great floor yeah and not that he's great but that's a floor and uh oh madison alexander madison's
Starting point is 00:44:55 available too what do you do if you can pick up both you try and get both but you think you got a prioritized boon at this point just because of the injury to madison we don't know if it's a high ankle sprain mid-uncle sprain you know he's just they held him out as a precaution because they want to make sure he's fine moving forward maybe he rushes back because he saw cook go down you know it's just an unknown right now but i think you got to go with the guy who might be the healthiest and that's boone okay cowboys have been not so good against pass catching running backs lately so b Boston Scott, and you know he has to catch the ball. They have nobody there to catch the ball. If Nelson Aguilar were to play, would you get away from Boston Scott
Starting point is 00:45:31 who has 13 catches in his last two games? Do you want to apologize to Zachary now or just wait until later? What do you mean? You said they have no one to catch the ball. Well, he doesn't count. Well, they have no wide receivers. They have no wide receivers. You want to apologize to Greg Ward now?
Starting point is 00:45:49 It would not sway me one way or the other with Nelson Aguilar. I think you see what the two back sets are for Philly. And it'd be interesting to see if Jordan Howard comes back, what they would do. At this point, I would say, Jordan, you sit. We're good. So, Patrick Laird and Boston Scott
Starting point is 00:46:11 are both available. Who do you add? Scott and PPR for sure. It's closer to non-PPR. I'd probably still lean Scott. Just with the chance of maybe Myles Gaskin taking over for Laird.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Myles Gaskin, Darwin Thompson, Wes Hills, they, you know, I doubt many people are going to pick those players up. If Damian Williams is sitting there, would you pick him up with the thought that if he starts, I think they really need to get their running game going
Starting point is 00:46:38 heading into the playoffs. And it seems like Williams is the best hope to do that. Do you have any interest in him? He's 82% owned. Yeah, I think it's, you know, he'd be an interesting flex play. We spoke to Evan Washburn, who's one of our CBS NFL sideline reporters. And if you want to take a look, he got just destroyed by the snow. He was at the game, but he said, which I didn't realize that Damien was expecting to play until they got to Friday and he was sick. So it wasn't the ribs
Starting point is 00:47:03 that kept him out. He was dealing with an illness. So it's something to keep an eye on that if he's healthy, maybe he's back this week. That's pretty interesting. So yeah, what would you like? Where would you rank Damian Williams at the Bears? Obviously great run defense.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Where would you rank him this week? And again, he's 82% owned and maybe people just gave up on him. He'd be better in PPR than non-PPR. I think he'd be still flex. He wouldn't be a must-start guy, but it's still... The Bears are interesting because they're talking about now that they're eliminated. They said they have no consideration of shutting down Akeem Hicks
Starting point is 00:47:39 because he came back from IR. I wonder, though, if that changes as the week goes on. If he says, you know what, I'm good you know just keep keep that keep that on your on your on your radar if you know these guys that come back from injuries because they're trying to help their teams like beckham for example you know is he going to be somebody that shuts it down now that they're completely out uh ty hilton now that the colts are eliminated these are things you got to keep keeping in your mind um with guys that are dealing with long-term injuries so So if, if we get word that a team picks is out, then it's,
Starting point is 00:48:06 it's a much better situation for Williams. But like you said, the run defense, not really though. They've been so good. They've been so good all year with or without him. They just give up a ton of touchdowns. Well,
Starting point is 00:48:15 this will be the first game. This will be the first game without Hicks and Roquan Smith. So just keep that in mind to see how they would do. But I mean, the chiefs don't run the ball very well to begin with. So it's not, it's not, it's hard to be excited about any of their guys.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Okay. That's what I wanted to hear. Chris Thompson catches in his last three games one, seven, and two. So that's hard to trust. And that's pretty much it for running backs. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about all the wide receivers and the tight ends and the DSTs that you need to know here on Fantasy Football.
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Starting point is 00:49:46 coming off a surprisingly good game against the Ravens. And let's see who else. Mike Williams and Sterling Shepard. These guys are all known in 70% or more of leagues. McLaurin, Fuller, Crowder, Mike Williams, and Sterling Shepard. Dave, when you hear those five names, what comes to mind? Receivers that can help you win a fantasy championship. Some of those guys I think can be really good,
Starting point is 00:50:10 and I think McLaurin tops the list. I think that he's got a big upside. We've seen him connect again, finally, with Dwayne Haskins. It's like they remember that they were college teammates or something, and it's an amazing matchup for him. So I think that that connection continues for the Redskins. Yeah, Mike Williams is my favorite. You're starting to see the connection again with Philip Rivers.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Great matchup as well. Scored in each of the last two games. So he saw the allergen, and he found out the cure to finding the end zone. So I think both guys are in play, but I would take Williams just with how the Chargers offense has been operating in the matchup that they have. And I think the game that you were thinking that Rivers was going to have last week, Jamie, I think this is the week he has it against Las Vegas. Good.
Starting point is 00:50:55 So if Mike Williams and Terry McLaurin are favorites in that group, are they ahead of Brashad Perryman and Anthony Miller? No, but I mean, I like Will Fuller too. I think this is another opportunity for Will Fuller to have success. Last week was not great, but should do well against Tampa Bay at home. Maybe he gets the Kenny Stills two touchdown games. Worth the flexion. I like Fuller too. I like Fuller better than McCorn, but that's just based on the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But they're all sort of in play. No, they're not ahead of Perryman or Miller. Here's something a little strange about wide receivers against the Bucs in their last four weeks. Calvin Ridley was the best for the Falcons. DeeDee Westbrook was the best for the Jaguars. Marcus Johnson was the best wide receiver, slightly better. Basically, he and Pascal both had big games.
Starting point is 00:51:39 And Danny Amendola was better than Gallaudet. The number two receiver has been better four straight games because DJ Chark played in that game for the Jaguars. I don't think Fuller is going to be better than Hopkins, but number two receivers have done very well. Surprisingly, number one receivers have struggled a little bit lately against Tampa Bay, but again, won't be the case for Hopkins most likely. Yeah, Crowder, like I said, he's on that waiver wire,
Starting point is 00:52:02 that league that I'm looking at, and I'm conflicted. The Steelers, they give up the 10th fewest fantasy points to wide receivers, but they're not impossible to beat. Inside receivers, as we talked about, it didn't actually come to play out that way in this game against the Bills. Inside receivers have been having a lot of success against these Steelers. Beasley had a terrible game, but John Brown had almost 100 yards. Can you go back to Crowder this week? And a name I didn't mention is Robbie Anderson, who I think is 75% owned. Can you look at a Jets wide receiver this week?
Starting point is 00:52:31 It's hard to trust them, but I would prefer Crowder over Anderson. Just with what we saw last week with both Ryan Griffin and Demaryius Thomas out, you saw a spike in targets. So I think with Dalton facing a heavy pass rush, ball out quick, it's going to help Crowder more so than it would Anderson.
Starting point is 00:52:47 All right. Perryman and Miller are our favorites, the ones who are widely available. If I tell you, hey, A.J. Green is playing, how would you prioritize him compared to those other guys? Still third. He could be the best without question, obviously, but just shake the rust off. You don't know how he's going to be.
Starting point is 00:53:08 He saw a foot specialist on Monday. You know, it's not clear if that was to get clearance, if that was some sort of setback. You know, he's not feeling comfortable. You know, so, I mean, the matchup's fantastic. Dolphins allow the most touchdowns to wide receivers. So he could easily score. But I think you just look at the way those other two guys are playing and what the options are or what the opportunities are for them to wide receivers. So he could easily score. But I think you just look at the way those other two guys are playing and
Starting point is 00:53:25 what the options are or what the opportunities are for them to play. Well, again, I just think it's somewhat safer than trusting AJ green in his first game since was it week eight of last year. He might be my 24th ranked receiver. If he came back this week and I like all, I love Paramount and Miller ahead of him.
Starting point is 00:53:42 McLaurin would be ahead of him. Mike Williams would be ahead of him. McLaurin would be ahead of him. Mike Williams would be ahead of him. I'm going to ride hot hands here and not the guy who's coming back from a crazy foot injury. Dave, how would you rank Danny Amendola, D.D. Westbrook, Chris Conley, and Greg Ward? So two Jaguars receivers, Danny Amendola, Greg Ward. How would you rank them?
Starting point is 00:54:05 I think I'm going to take Ward at the top, and that's even in PPR. Amendola would be second, and then I think I'd just fill in the rest with the other guys. But I think Ward just is being – he's got a great opportunity, and he's got a role that isn't going to go away. He did good with the role last week. I think the target volume will stay there for him against Philly. I'm texting now.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I think Greg Ward would be okay as a high-end flex. Look, last week I was sort of excited about the prospect of Nelson Aguilar playing. He's been really heavily targeted and mostly good when Alshon Jeffries has been hurt. So you don't have to pick up Aguilar tonight, obviously. Let's see what the status is. But if he does play, would you want Aguilar or Greg Ward or neither?
Starting point is 00:54:54 I would probably lean toward neither because I don't want to trust Aguilar in my fantasy lineup. Aguilar would be my favorite of the Eagles receivers, but I agree with Dave. I think it's just tough to trust him. How about Justin Watson? Any love for him? What about the theory that Perryman's going to get double-covered now and Justin Watson could roam free?
Starting point is 00:55:12 He won't roam free. He struggles with single coverage because he's not a burner. So I'm not as excited about him. I know that he's going to get another good opportunity. I think Perryman's speed can make him tough to even double cover at this point. He's playing too well. And the Texans, you think that they did something to try and
Starting point is 00:55:32 contain guys like Edelman and Fant and A.J. Brown over the last three weeks? Pretty sure they tried. Pretty sure they failed all three times. It wouldn't be a shock, though, if Watson is better than Perryman. I would be shocked. So Dave, three times. It wouldn't be a shock, though, if Watson's better than Perriman. I would be shocked. Two weeks ago, he was better than Perriman.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Who was... Noah Fant was the third player with the 100-yard game? I couldn't figure it out. Yep. Noah Fant. Against the Texans. Okay. You said three players. All right. It's not three receivers. It's three players. Right. Give me a Pittsburgh wide receiver
Starting point is 00:56:04 that you'd gamble on. Which one? Still Washington over Johnson. Yeah, but the switch back to Rudolph, which it sounds like there's a chance that happens, does hurt it a little bit. If it doesn't happen, I mean, James Washington has 83 or more yards
Starting point is 00:56:20 in four of his last six games. So facing a team that gives up the ninth most fantasy points to wide receivers and the jets. Could he be good this week? Like, would you start him or say like a struggling Kenny Galladay or a Cooper cup or something? I'm going with Galladay and cup ahead of Washington.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yep. I would start Washington in non PPR ahead of Christian Kirk, Hollywood Brown, stills, Robbie, Manny Sanders. I would go Washington in non-PPR ahead of Christian Kirk, Hollywood Brown, Stills, Robbie, Manny Sanders. I would go there with him, but he's not going to be a top 30 receiver. Then let's go to tight ends here. We like Higby this week. How do we feel about Greg Olson versus Dallas Goddard?
Starting point is 00:57:04 They're both owned in about 68% of leagues. Who would you choose, Olson or Goddard? Goddard. They're both owned in about 68% of leagues. Who would you choose, Olson or Goddard? Goddard. Dallas. So Olson, like, no? Sit him? Yeah. Outside the top 12? I'm not excited about him.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I'd rather go with Fant, Goddard, Janu. Yeah, not excited. Not feeling it. Obviously Hollister. Yes, obviously Hollister. Yeah. So, Jamie, how come Noah Fant was kind of far down on your list or not even on your list?
Starting point is 00:57:32 Just because he's banged up and not getting a ton of targets. No, he's not on my list. Okay. Yeah, no, he really is not getting a lot of targets. I think what he's like three targets, three or four targets in the three games he's played with true lock. Five targets or less in every game with Locke. And plus, he didn't finish the game last week.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Okay. There's some tight ends with good matchups here, like Noah Fant. So, obviously, Hollister has the best matchup. OJ Howard has a fine matchup against Houston. They've given up five touchdowns to tight ends in their last eight games. Talk to me. Let's compare OJ Howard versus Jason Witten. Jason Witten seems like he has a pretty bad matchup, actually.
Starting point is 00:58:11 The Eagles give up the third fewest fantasy points. Who would you go with, Howard or Witten? I'd go with Howard. Howard. And Witten or Johnnie Smith? He's behind those guys, but hopefully what we saw last week is they get they continue
Starting point is 00:58:25 to get creative with him which was fun to see i i think he's a touchdown or bus type of streaming tight end and if they weren't getting creative with him before last week you kind of gotta ask why they should be look like a running back to me i know use those guys get the ball in their hands let them make plays and they weren't doing Maybe he just doesn't know the offense as well as they'd like. What about some of these guys? What about Kyle Rudolph against Green Bay? How do you feel about him? No.
Starting point is 00:58:54 No. Not that feeling's back. No. I'm not feeling Rudolph. Hey. What about Mike Gasicki against the Bengals? He's not bad. I'd rather go with him than Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yep. And Witten. And Olsen. What about the very disappointing Jack Doyle? I still go back to him this week against the Panthers. Harder to do in non-PPR, though. What do you do if you see Evan Ingram on your waiver wire facing Washington?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Are you sure he's playing? Yeah. You can stash him until you find out his status. What do you do if you see Evan Ingram on your waiver wire facing Washington? Are you sure he's playing? Yeah. You can stash him until you find out his status. I wouldn't expect him to come back and be money off the injury list. Yeah. I would also be surprised if he played. Really struggling.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yep. Yeah, it seems that way. But if he does play, Evan Ingram's 78% on the Redskins have given up the 5th most fantasy points to tight ends it's been bad in their last 5 games or so but Hollister is going to be the prize on the waiver wire unless Higby is still available I think I may have
Starting point is 00:59:57 asked you this but Higby or Hollister who would you prefer this week Higby 3 straight 100 yard games games. Not bad. And on to DSTs to finish the show. We like the Chargers against Oakland. We like the Chiefs at Chicago. We like the Colts against Carolina.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Right? Everybody cool with those three? Yep. All right. I'm going to give you some other options. Tell me if you like them. Atlanta against Jacksonville. No. No. Not when you've got those other ones out there. Texans at Tampa Bay on Saturday. No way.
Starting point is 01:00:31 No. I'd rather have the Falcons. Giants or Redskins or Bengals or Dolphins in those two games? No. No. Pass. Do you trust the Bills or the Patriots DST this week as they face each other? Yes, I think it's going to be a low scoring game.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I would trust both. I like the Patriots better. Do you trust the Rams or the 49ers this week as they face each other? The 49ers. Donate the 49ers. Do you know what I love about football? That's almost over. Saturday football. I love about football? That's almost over. Saturday football.
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Starting point is 01:01:42 will be they both will be cared for young way to Kami fair and Chase McLaughlin. We mentioned those kickers a little bit earlier. And that's pretty much it for the Waiver Wire show, guys. Good luck. How many championships are you in? Three. I lost one last night.
Starting point is 01:01:56 We started Week 14. We ended in Week 15. I lost by two points because I was chasing points with Michael Thomas. And that touchdown at the end of the first half that was negated. I was playing against Will Lutz. That field goal ruined me. Oh no. Greg Zerlein, only one point ruined me.
Starting point is 01:02:14 But four. Okay. I'm in one final and one semi-final this week. Week 17. Week 17 final. You got to prepare for that that now you can't wait till next week to get that done thanks a lot for listening everybody for dave for jamie i'm adam we'll talk to you tomorrow

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