Fantasy Football Today - 12/20: Start or Sit (NFC)! Mike Boone, Aaron Jones and More! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 20, 2019

We're almost ready for Week 16, but first we've got the NFC home games to get to and some difficult decisions at QB. So we get the Startometer out (1:56) for the QBs you may be wondering about this week. Matt Ryan, Dak Prescott, Mitchell Trubisky and more ... Dave tells you the Good Luck Player you need to add, and it's an awesome suggestion (8:00)! Then we talk about the weather (11:30) and the news and notes (12:14) before going over some key stats (19:02) about Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes, Leonard Fournette and more. Plus "Start, Sit or Flex at Best" (28:00) ... HOU-TB (29:25), LAR-SF (41:00), GB-MIN (49:25), NYG-WAS (57:30), JAC-ATL (1:03:00), ARI-SEA (1:08:00), KC-CHI (1:14:48), DAL-PHI (1:17:50) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. A kind of a weird Friday show. I mean, for many of you, this is the last Starter Sit episode you are going to need, although we will do a full week 17, you know, slate of shows. Welcome, everybody, to Fantasy Football today. Let's win a championship. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Isenberg.

What did you guys do with all your free time on Thursday night? No game. I went out to dinner with friends. No way. I didn't have to stay up late to do a hit for CBS Sports HQ at midnight. It was lovely. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, what did you order? Where'd you go? I'll pick your meal. Where'd you go? Why don't you guess where I went? Guess where you went. Anthony's Coal Fire Pizza. You went to a sports bar.

No. You didn't go to Anthony's. You went to a sports bar. No. You didn't go to Anthony's. You went to Carrabba's. No. Not a chain. You went to a Viking food restaurant. Viking food. Viking food.

You went out with friends, so I'm going to guess you had burgers. No. All right. I'm out of guesses. I went for sushi. Sushi, huh? Interesting. Okay. Public sushi? I know it's one of guesses. I went for sushi. Sushi, huh? Interesting. Okay.

Public sushi? I know it's one of your favorites. Not public sushi. Public sushi is an alternative to good sushi. It's good, but not the same. Dave, did you have a nice Thursday night? Well, I coached my kids' rec league basketball team. Did you stay on your feet?

Well, yeah. We're 1-0 in preseason games. Nice. I'd like to think my coaching has something to do with it. It's been fun. Very good. Let's get started here with the QB-O-Meter. I'm going to give you some quarterbacks in the NFC home games.

Now, listen, everybody. The AFC home games, whatever, they were sort of easy this week. The NFC home games are challenging, so we're going to have some good debates today. You tell me basically the start-O-Meter for quarterbacks. 0-10 on the start-O-Meter for quarterbacks, the QB-O-Meter.

0-10, how much do you want to start them? Matt Ryan against Jacksonville. 7. 10 is the highest? 10 is the highest. 10. Zero to ten, how much do you want to start them? Matt Ryan against Jacksonville? Seven. Ten is the highest? Ten is the highest. Ten. You're that confident in him, huh? Yeah.

Okay. I guess we won't get further into it right now. But, you know, he's been okay. He's been okay. Well. Yeah, go ahead. See, this is, I guess, where I need an interpretation. Like, how excited am I to start him, or what do I expect him to do?

I mean, aren't they kind of the same? Well, no. When I hear you say 10, it makes me think that he is a no-brainer, must-start, gotta get him in your lineup. He's gonna have 300 yards and three touchdowns. Yeah, but if I have Patrick Mahomes, I'm starting him over Matt Ryan.

I don't think it's wrong to say 10 for both. I don't think it's wrong to say 10 for both. I don't think it's wrong to say 10 for both. Sure. Okay, well then, so you're very excited about Matt Ryan. Okay, that works. How about Dak Prescott at the Eagles? Four. Five.

So how much of that is the injury? Because I know, Dave, you cited his fantasy points in his last four games, but that was like the Bears, the Rams. He actually had played very, very well against the Rams, the Patriots. The Eagles have been bad three weeks in a row against Fitzpatrick, Manning, and Haskins. So, I mean, if he's fully healthy, I'd be like a 10 for Dak Prescott. So you guys are a little bit lower. Why is that?

Is it the injury or anything else? It's the injury, and it's the belief that Ezekiel Elliott is going, you guys are a little bit lower. Why is that? Is it the injury or anything else? It's the injury and it's the belief that Ezekiel Elliott is going to continue to get a lot of work. For me, it's only the injury. Both can exist. I mean, Ezekiel can get a lot of work and Dak can still do great.

Yeah, if Dak was 100% fine, like I originally ranked him back-to-back with Matt Ryan, so I would have told you 10. If there was no concern. But the fact that there's concern right now, I expect him to play. I just don't know how effective he'll be. How about Carson Wentz in that same game? Six and a half.

Four. You know what, Wentz? You're starting. I'll start Wentz over Dak. Oh, interesting. Yeah, no, I just wish he had his healthy receivers. Yeah, I noticed. He's got Ertz.

He's got Greg Lewis. I noticed you were kind of high on him, Dave. I think you have Math, something like that. Yep. I just push comes to shove. I think he's going to have to do a decent amount of work. Hey, he's cobbled it together the last two games. Yeah.

Last three games. Needed overtime in one of them, but we'll take it. Yeah. So how about Russell Wilson? Now, let me give you some stats on Wilson. Actually, why don't you tell me your number, and then I'll give you some stats on Wilson. Zero to ten on the QB start-o-meter for Russell Wilson against Arizona.

Eight. Ten. All right. My QBO meter is different than your QBO meter, I think. Do you have Russell Wilson? You're not happy starting? I'm happy to start him. I gave him an eight.

But he's ranked fifth for me. Yeah. He's third for Jamie and second for Heath. Now, here's what I want to tell you about Russell Wilson. First of all, everyone does well against Arizona, right? Well, not Russell Wilson, actually. In the first meeting, he only scored 15 fantasy points. He only threw 28 passes. His first six games of the year, Russell Wilson was the number three quarterback in four point per passing touchdown leagues, number one in six point per passing touchdown leagues. And in

the four point leagues, he was practically tied with Watson and Jackson. So, you know, he's basically the number one quarterback, you know, barely behind those other two guys. The last eight games, on a per-game basis, Russell Wilson is the number 15 quarterback in four-point and 14 quarterback in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. And even last week was a really good week for him. Like, he scored, I think, 23 points. He finishes the number eight quarterback in fantasy.

He was one fantasy point ahead of three other guys who were 9, 10, and 11. So I don't know. It's like I see where he is in the rankings. Three for Jamie, five for Dave, two for Heath. I get it. Arizona is the tonic that cures all quarterbacks like Jared Goff and even Baker Mayfield had a good game. They give up the most points to quarterbacks.

But he's just not getting it done. End of thought. Despite that, I think you still start him for his potential, and you know that he's got three score upside pretty much no matter who he plays, especially at home. And I can't resist him. I can't resist the matchup. I know that they want to run the football a ton.

I know that Chris Carson's going to get a ton of work, but I still think that Russell Wilson is a must-start fantasy quarterback. Okay. By the way, I've been hosting a long time. You all have been following me for a long time. Good hosts have to say end of thought out loud when they are done with a sentence and want their co-hosts to speak.

So, you know, just a little trick of the trade. End of thought, always a good thing to say. Do good hosts delay their days by three hours too? Three hours? Oh, because I woke up late today? Well, yeah, because I'm working very hard and I overslept and I'm sorry about that. How about Mitchell Trubisky against Kansas City?

I wouldn't be that excited to start him. Like a two and a half. And finally, Jameis Winston with no weapons to speak of. Jameis Winston against Houston. That's not true. He does have weapons to speak of. Eight. Okay.

End of segment. Dave, who's your good luck player that you want? Everybody needs to pick up, drop somebody that you're not going to need this week to pick up whom. Who is it? Well, I thought it would be Andrew Luck, but then I realized Andrew Luck left us high and dry in the middle of August when he decided to retire. So that doesn't feel lucky. And Alex Smith, it would be cool to have him on your bench just because of all that he's been through and the fact that he's coming back or trying to come back. Maybe next year he'll play. Maybe he won't. bodies, good sportsmanship, and friendliness, and has been such a huge part of fantasy football for many, many years, and we missed him this year.

The good luck charm that you should put on your bench. I've put him on all my benches in all my fantasy finals, and we are going to win together, not because of who we put in our lineup, just because of this guy being on our bench, Yo Soy Fiesta, Rob Gronkowski. Oh, nice. That's a good one. Back in fantasy football.

Back on our benches. He's available in every single league. Go pick him up. Stash him. Win your league. Thank me later. That's a good one. I like that.

All right. So Gronkowski. I never really owned Gronkowski. Chris Godwin for Rob Gronkowski in two leagues. That's awesomekowski. I dropped Chris Godwin for Rob Gronkowski in two leagues. That's awesome, man. I don't need Godwin anymore. He's not going to play. Maybe it's bad karma for dropping somebody who helped me get to the finals.

I don't really care. I want Gronk on my team. You dropped a guy that has a win in his name. That's not good. I got Rob Gronkowski. Do you know how many touchdowns he's gotten over his career? Gronk Spike win the fantasy league. As Chris Towers put it on the Monday show, the tight ends against the Arizona Cardinals

are basically Rob Gronkowski and his prime. It's a very funny way to put it. So Jacob Hollister is going to be popular. Jacob Hollister is in my FanDuel lineup. Few things to promote. First of all, our FanDuel contest. It's a great time to do it. FanDuel.com slash league slash FFT. $5 do it. FanDuel.com slash league slash FFT.

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reveal a cash game lineup for FanDuel on our radio show on Saturday night. I made my FanDuel lineup this morning and I like it, but I just feel like I'm missing something. What have you got?

Fitzpatrick. Well, now I know what it's missing. Mixon. Devontae Freeman against the Jags. Michael Thomas, Devontae Parker, and Keenan Allen. I love that. Jacob Hollister. I love that.

DeAndre Washington is going to be very popular. And the Ravens DST. It feels cashy to me. It doesn't feel like a tournament game. Well, I mean, having Ryan Fitzpatrick definitely does not feel cashy. But the rest of it does, and that's okay because that's what we're looking for,

just to try and get a little extra dough, you know? Yeah. All right. Well, anywho, let's get to some news and notes. Do we have any weather updates? Any bad weather we need to be checking out this weekend? The only weather situation is in South Florida for the Bengals-Dolphins showdown. It looks like rain is in the forecast.

80% chance on Sunday. All day long. Thunderstorms. Wind as high as 18 miles an hour. That's the one that you've got to look at. Maybe you think twice about that Fitzpatrick-Park you've got in your fan duel lineup yeah and honestly I might pick up another quarterback in the league that I'm planning on starting Ryan Fitzpatrick in because that look rain by itself is not so bad but if it's like torrential and it's windy all right we'll keep an eye on that one so news and notes

Jamie uh Dalvin Cook and Alexander Madison missed practice what's the latest there they have a Monday game so they'll take it a little bit more slowly in practice. What's the latest there? They have a Monday game, so they'll take it a little bit more slowly in practice. What's the latest there with the Minnesota guys? I mean, you just said it. They mispractice.

So as of now, it's looking like Mike Boone. Now, Dalvin Cook, the reports were that he's not going to play. He's still holding out hope. Mike Zimmer's still holding out hope. Zimmer also holding out hope

that Madison is going to go too. So, you know, it's going to come down to probably a report Saturday night or Sunday. And as of now, I would anticipate Mike Bloom being the starter. All right. We'll keep you updated on the mailbag show. That'll be an important one. So please take a listen.

And actually, well, the games are on Saturday early. No, I'll still publish. I'll publish it at 5 a.m. on Saturday morning. Dak Prescott downplayed his shoulder injury. Gerald Everett not on the injury report. When Everett and Higby were healthy, Higby had just one touchdown and no 50-yard games. Everett, on the other hand,

had four games with 14 or more PPR fantasy points. Are they both going to be sits this week at San Francisco? I think the Rams have seen something from Higby that they stick with him. I think he continues to play a lot. I would be surprised if they take him off the field. I'm still interested in starting Higby. I'm not

interested in starting Everett. I dropped Higby from 3 to 11. I would start Jacob Hollister over him. I would start OJ Howard over him. I would start Jared Cook over him. I think you're going to see a significant downgrade in targets. He could still be successful in the limited targets that he'll get by comparison, but it is not going to be the same situation where he's the only show in town. Goff talked this week about how he loves

Higby's catch radius, big size. Oh, I would imagine he's still going to have a significant role, but you're talking about a quarterback with a thumb injury facing the San Francisco defense and now going to lose some targets. So it's not the same setup as it was. Yeah, would you start – well, let's move on because I want to actually talk about a different tight end because Hunter Renfro says he's fully ready for the game.

So Waller over Higby, I think – well, I guess ask. Waller or Higby? Waller. Well, I guess that's Waller or Higby. Waller easily. Higby. Wow. Wow. Over your boy? Over the guy?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's wrong with Waller? I mean, he's so good. Nothing's wrong with Waller. I like starting Waller. I like Higby better. Okay. And then how about Waller or Hollister?

Well, Waller. Christian Kirk was limited in practice. Seattle's been pretty bad against receivers lately. Christian Kirk has been so unreliable, though. Damian Williams was limited in practice. Does that make it easy to just... Well, if he plays, does it make it even easier to sit all the Chiefs running backs?

It makes it easy to sit them no matter what. I just don't know what to expect. He'd be the best one. I agree, but I don't feel good starting him this week. Kerryon Johnson, hopeful to play. Would you rather start carry on Johnson or a Chiefs running back? Carry on. And Greg Zerline still may not play.

That's a Saturday game, so make sure you're prepared for that situation. Do you expect the following players? Jordan Howard against Dallas? No. Nelson Aguilar against Dallas? I'm sorry? Nelson Aguilar. No. You wouldn't start him even if you did.

You know, I can't in my... Really? You're going to trust Nelson Aguilar this week? He'd be in that number three conversation. I don't understand why you would trust Greg... He'd be in that number eight conversation. Why would you trust Greg Ward and not Nelson Aguilar? I wouldn't want to trust either one, but at least with Ward playing, we've seen him last week play well and get a lot of work.

He's their only decent outside threat. I've seen Nelson Aguilar be their target leader. He'd probably step into those nine targets that Ward saw. So he'd be a number three receiver in most leagues. Yeah, he's exactly what he's done when Alshon's been out and he's played. It's exactly what he's done. Yeah, he's done well whenever there's been an opening for him. It's not true.

He stunk against New England. Against the Patriots. That's it. Against the Patriots. It's the one he's done. Yeah, he's done well whenever there's been an opening for him. It's not true. He stunk against New England. Against the Patriots. Went outside. That's it. Against the Patriots. It's the one game. Right, but earlier this year he was better. And he's been lousy ever since those games.

We'll go back to the beginning of the season. He was great when those other guys were out. Right. And then after that, something happened. He has been hurt. Look how big your eyes are. No, no. That's not what happened.

I didn't realize I was talking to the president of the Nelson Aguilar fan club. That'd be me, apparently. That's not what happened with I didn't realize I was talking to the president of the Nelson Aguilar fan club. That'd be me, apparently. That's not what happened with Aguilar. Aguilar's played three or four games without Alshon Jeffrey or with Jeffrey leaving with an injury. He's done well in all but one of them. And the one that he did poorly in was the Patriots game. And I still think he had a lot of targets in that game. So, I don't

know. The way you feel about Greg Ward, I feel like if Aguilar plays, you just feel that way about Aguilar. Agreed. Taylor Gabriel against Kansas City. Do you expect him and does it matter for Anthony Miller? No and no. Okay.

I don't think it matters at this point, no. How about Juju at the Jets? We're expecting him now. He had a full practice this week. And I still wouldn't want to use him. Okay. And Demarius Thomas against Pittsburgh. It has nothing to do with the matchup with Juju either, by the way.

It's just he wasn't that good before he got hurt. Now we're going to push him back in the lineups. It just doesn't make much sense. Yeah, Demarius Thomas, and I only ask because, you know, those are targets for Crowder. Right. Hopefully he's out, and that helps Crowder and Robbie. All right. So we've got eight games to preview today.

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13th, 18th, 20th, 17th, and 15th. So he's been top 20 in every game. He's been 13 to 18, four out of five. In PPR, he's been 14th, 33rd, 20, 21, and 12. So he's been top 21 in PPR in four of those five games. And I would say he's been a little unlucky because in the first four games, he had 75 carries

without a touchdown. So, you know, what do you think about Peterson? It's not the easiest matchup, but against the Giants. You basically pencil him in for 11 PPR points because every time he's had

13 or more carries, which has happened seven times, six of those, he's hit that number as the floor. So, I mean, the Giants run defense has obviously been much better of late, but I still think the workload,

the fact that last week he had the three catches, it's worth buying into. It doesn't seem safe to trust a 34-year-old running back in the Week 16, but Callahan's offense, no Darius Geis, it's work for him.

How about Adrian Peterson versus Kerryon Johnson? I'd go AP. I would go AP. I mean, I've said this a few times this week. I would start Peterson over Gurley and Le'Veon Bell. Yeah, Gurley. I mean, let's go right to Gurley here because I know why you don't

like him, but it's hard to ignore. He's only had like two bad, bad games this year. He didn't play against San Francisco the first game, but San Francisco's run defense in their last six games, they held Kenyon Drake to seven non-PPR points, but 13 in PPR. Aaron Jones to three points. Jamal Williams did score seven in non-PPR and 14 in PPR. Mark Ingram had five non-PPR points. Alvin Kamara had one with four catches. Devontae Freeman had four points in non, six points in PPR.

Chris Carson's the only one who's been good in the last six games against San Francisco, and he had 25 carries. So, Jamie made a case against Todd Gurley yesterday. Dave, you are higher on Gurley. Make the case for him. I just think that the offense in LA is going to have to lean on him a little bit

to try and control the clock, take pressure off of Goff. I don't think it's going to be a 20-carry game by any stretch, but he also seems to be a big option for them inside the five. I think they can get there at least for a couple of plays throughout the game. So I think it'll be a typical game for Gurley where he scores and gets you like 60 yards on top of it. I think there's still potential for him to be double digits. I think he can catch three or four passes on top of it.

If I were the Rams, I wouldn't even play Gurley this week. You never want people to play. You realize how much we say that on this show? Like guys want to play. At this point, I'd like to see them make sure he's fine for next year yeah I guess I he's gonna be really interesting next year I don't know I think they're

they're trying to make the playoffs so they're gonna play their best players and it's such a slim chance of them getting in I get it but still yeah okay let's go to our next stat. It's Kyler Murray. He is hard to predict. Fantasy points in his last 10 games. He has 25

or more in 5 of them. And he has 6-17 in 5 of them. And yeah, only one quarterback against Seattle all year has scored more than 22 fantasy points and 6 points for passing touchdown leagues. That was Dalton in week one. A lot of quarterbacks have been in the 19 to 22 point range.

Is that where you have Kyler Murray this week? I've got him in the 19 to 22 range in my quarterback rankings. That's not good. No, it's not. I'm ready to go in a different direction than Murray, who's played well but still made mistakes and hasn't been productive enough for fantasy purposes the past three weeks. And Clowney is expected to play for Seattle. That's what I've been led to believe.

And that makes it harder on Kyler Murray and that offensive line. I'm nervous about Murray being a 20-point fantasy quarterback. I'd rather start Trubisky, rather start Rodgers, Garoppolo, rather start Dalton and Fitzpatrick. That's pretty much in reverse order of how I'd prefer all those guys, but the bottom line is that Kyler isn't somebody I'd feel good starting in a one-quarterback league. Okay. And then, Jamie, let's talk about Patrick Mahomes

because there have been only two quarterbacks all year that have scored more than 17 fantasy points against Chicago, either home or away. Rodgers, Cousins, Rivers, Wentz, Goff, Rodgers again. They all scored 16 or fewer fantasy points. You know, Mahomes really hasn't been Mahomes since week three. But you guys, every week you have confidence in Mahomes. He's a top five quarterback.

Your expectations are what on Sunday night at Chicago in Mahomes. He's top five quarterback. Your expectations are what on Sunday night at Chicago? For him to be a top five quarterback. Why? Because he's capable of greatness every time he steps on the field. So, you know, I think

where he's ranked and who you're starting him over is probably the only thing you would consider at this point. And they're different things for me. I'm always going to probably put him near the top of my rankings because I expect him to go out and do something great every week. Like Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson and the players that, unless it's just an overwhelmingly difficult scenario, which I don't view this to be, I'm going to trust him to be around 300 to 350 yards

passing, to have multiple touchdowns, to limit the turnover. That's kind of where I start when I do my rankings. I just think that unless you drafted Lamar and Mahomes, you're playing Mahomes every week. Okay.

I think that's fair. Wilson and Mahomes, you know what their upside is. You guys have them ranked as top five quarterbacks. I get it. Makes sense. And it's not a great week for quarterbacks either. But at least Mahomes has a pretty tough matchup. Wilson has the best matchup.

And then finally, Leonard Fournette. Leonard Fournette, in five of his last six games, he has been 28th or worse in non-PPR. That's where he's finished, Leonard Fournette. RB 28 or lower in five of his last six games. In PPR, he's been 21st or worse in three of his last six

games, but he's been better in PPR. He's been top 12 twice. That's crazy how bad he has been in non-PPR. And I think that's why Dave is kind of low on him, right? Leonard Fournette? He's been top 12 twice. But that is crazy how bad he has been in non-PPR. And I think that's why Dave is kind of low on him, right? Leonard Fournette. He's not scoring. That's a problem.

Yeah, and he's not getting this heavy work. He's not really getting a lot of opportunities because the Jaguars aren't getting in the red zone very often. They've had 12 trips into the red zone total in their last six games. They're having a hard time moving the ball. It doesn't matter who their quarterback's been. He doesn't have very many explosive plays. He has one catch for over 20 yards. All of his carries over the last six weeks have been

17 yards or less. He's only scored three times all year. I'm kind of ignoring the matchup here because last week he had an amazing matchup and when the team did finally get in the red zone, it was Chris Conley coming through. Right.

Okay. Jamie, do you want to make a quick case for Leonard for next? I know he's the highest. You're in the middle. Yeah. I mean, I,

I just, I'll, I'll stick with the workload cause he's going to, you know, get so much work. I also wonder if, and, and this is going to be an interesting storyline in the next few weeks with

the Jaguars. There's a lot of people who thought that Doug Marone wasn't getting the chance to really coach the team because Tom Coughlin was such an influence during practice on the field. And he may actually come back as the coach next year. No way. Really? Yep. And I wonder if that's something that the players look at as now maybe they get to play from Rome, whether they like it or not. And we'll find out. But I just wonder if there's a little bit more freedom with this team after everything that's gone on with the fines. And, you know, you're hearing a lot of comments about how unhappy the guys were.

And this is a game where they can be competitive. They could actually win the game. Obviously, Atlanta's probably more talented, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's just a little bit more of a looseness to this Jaguars team, offense, etc. And Fournette goes out and gets a chance to have a big performance. It's just one of those things where you see this a lot with teams when there's a coaching change, when there's a front office change, especially with how Coughlin was running that franchise. It just seems like there was an absolute disaster.

They might not get going, though, until about five minutes into the first quarter. Because they could be late now. The clocks are moving forward. Start, sit, or flex at best? I already asked you this one. Kansas City running backs at Chicago, they are, I guess, flex at best.

If it's McCoy or Williams or something. Yes. All right. Chicago running backs against Kansas City. Same. Cohen is a PPR flex. I do not want to start David Montgomery. Miles Sanders against Dallas.

Start. Greg Ward against Dallas. Flex. Greg Ward against Dallas. Flex. Fan duel sleeper. Michael Gallup in Philadelphia. I'd try to sit. Flex at best. Amari Cooper at Philadelphia.

I'd start. DK Metcalf against Arizona. Start. I was nervous about him, but I found other receivers that I'm more nervous about, so he's crawled back into my top 24. I'm starting him over Kenny Galladay.

I'd go Galladay. You know who? I'd start Metcalf over Edelman, which is something I wouldn't have said yesterday. Metcalf and Galladay are basically the same type of guy. I'm between him. I've got T.Y. Hilton, D.K. Metcalf and Gallaudet are basically the same type of guy. I'm between him. I've got T.Y. Hilton, D.K. Metcalf, and Brashad Perryman for two spots,

and that one's going to stress me out a little bit. Yeah, I'd sit Metcalf there. But it's Arizona. Metcalf's been more consistent than Gallaudet. They are the same type of player. But Metcalf, you can't deny the floor has been right around 11 PPR points. Start, sit, or flex at best, Christian Kirk? Flex.

I would try to sit. All right, here we go. Houston at Tampa Bay, your stat of the game. The Texans have allowed six receiving touchdowns to running backs in their last five games. They cannot cover running backs at all, which is a little interesting in this scenario because Bruce Arians said the running backs are going to have to be more involved

in the passing game. Question, would you start any running backs in this game, Houston at Tampa Bay? Not if you don't have to. Yeah, I just don't have the confidence. Who's your favorite? It feels like Ronald Jones and Peyton Barber

are going to split first and second downs, and then Agumbo Wally will take third downs. Who would be the one running back you'd start in this game? Hyden on PPR and Ronald Jones on PPR. Okay. And Ben Gretsch made a good point on Wednesday, because you know he likes Ronald Jones, so you liked him anyway. He has not gotten any work inside the five-yard line recently.

All right. Deshaun Watson is a top three quarterback. Start that man. Sit the running backs if you can. We know about that Bucs run defense. Now, we like DeAndre Hopkins, of course, but looking at what the Bucs have been doing against wide receivers lately, they've been pretty good against number ones. This has nothing to do with Hopkins because you're starting him,

but they've been better against number ones lately but good against number ones. This has nothing to do with Hopkins because you're starting him. But they've been better against number ones lately, but struggling against number two. Like number two, Julio Jones had 68 yards, but Ridley had a big game. Russell Gage had a better game than Julio Jones. DJ Chark was bad. DeeDee Westbrook had 60 yards and a touchdown. Zach Paschal and Marcus Johnson were both good.

Kenny Galladay was really bad. Danny Amendok had 60 yards and a touchdown. Zach Paschal and Marcus Johnson were both good. Kenny Galladay was really bad. Danny Amendola had 100 yards and nearly a touchdown there. So, Will Fuller, how are we feeling? Feeling good as hell. Look, I think with Fuller, you start him as a super high-end flex. You know what his potential is. And you hope that he gets what Stills got last week. He's basically in the same range as Galladay and McInerney.

They're relatively touchdown-robust type of guys. And so the hope would be is that if you can get around five catches, then there's going to be a ton of upside for all those type of players. But Fuller in particular, will he find the end zone? So how would you rank them? How would you rank Gallaudet? Fuller's behind them, but I think there's not that big of a difference. Just with how they play and their roles on their teams, the targets that they've been getting. Gallaudet has lost targets with the quarterback change, so that's why he's in this conversation.

You just see the production and what it has been. Hopefully, Fuller is 100%. He's still been battling this injury. He hasn't been off the injury report. That's the concern with him. Is he 100%? He's among the highest of high-end flexes.

He's exciting, but he's a thrill ride. He's an emotional fantasy roller coaster, that Will Fuller. We're going to sit the tight ends, right? I know Tampa Bay gives up the second most points to tight ends, but not looking at Fells and Akins. No, no, no. Please don't. Okay, end of team. Let's go to Tampa Bay.

Jameis Winston, 7th for, fourth for Dave, tenth for Heath. Texans allow the fourth most fantasy points to quarterbacks. I guess we don't really need to get super into it here, but you're starting him. Would you start Matt Ryan or Jameis Winston? I'm going to go Winston. I'd go Ryan. It's funny.

Winston's been terrible at home. And I wonder why. Is it pressure to perform in front of the home crowd? Is it he just likes being on the road better? His numbers at home, especially if you factor in the London game, terrible. Absolutely terrible. That's weird. But the London game

wasn't a home game. Sure. But still, it technically was a home game based on the schedule. Even without that game, though, he has more interceptions than touchdowns at home and uh i just i don't know why you know the there's obvious concern with him you know you you're talking about losing his top two receivers that's never going to be a good situation to uh to you know him for him reaching his ceiling and so will he will he be able to overcome the loss of those two guys? I'm still hopeful. I just wish he would have had one of the two.

He has nine interceptions in his last three home games. Yeah, he did score 42 points, though. He scored 42 points against the Colts. He's had at least 300 yards in all but four games this year, and that includes weeks one and two. So for the season, here's Winston throwing to guys not named Edwin, Evans, Godwin, or Scott Miller. So that's all the other receivers and tight ends he's played with. He's completed 59% of his passes, 1,050 yards, eight touchdowns, seven interceptions.

By comparison to the other three guys, he completed 63% of his passes to those three, 2,520 yards, 17 touchdowns, 13 interceptions. He's had 141. This is according to NFL pick watch. He's got 141 successful plays to those three pass catchers, 72 successful plays to the other guys, which is a 48% success rate. He had a 56% success rate. So he's not as good, clearly, without those three guys on the field. Well, he also throws way, way more to the other guys. Yes. I wonder if you break it down to a—

He has attempted 100 more passes to the other three guys. Right, right. So if you break it down on a per-pass basis, I think it's going to be better to Evans and to Godwin. But is it going to be significantly better? I don't know if I can tell that. Well, I mean, based on what they're judging in terms of successful plays. So it's a play that denotes 40% of either first downs or... Half the distance on second down, conversion on third down.

So it's a pretty fair comparison. There's going to be a downgrade. And it's just a matter of what the downgrade is. And when you're talking about downgrade, he was's just a matter of what the downgrade is. And when you're talking about downgrade, he was obviously on a pretty big high the last two weeks. Well, Dave's not downgrading him. He's got him fourth, Jamie's seventh, and he's tenth. Well, his stats will come down.

Where you rank him is a different conversation. He's not going to go for 400 and multiple touchdowns unless those guys just absolutely step up their game, which will be nice to see. When you say those guys absolutely step up their game, you're talking about everybody just catching crazy passes. The guys who have been either no-names or unproven in Justin Watson

and the other receivers behind him or the bust in Brashad Perryman, who's had a nice stretch, but his career has been a disaster prior to that point. I don't see the run game. Do you see the run game coming alive here? No, it's not a matter of that. They could struggle offensively and just vomit all over themselves as a team.

It could easily happen. Well, look, eight of the last ten quarterbacks to face the Texans have scored 24 or more fantasy points. Seven of the last ten have scored 28 or more fantasy points. You should 100% start Jameis if he's been your guy. I don't think it's going to be a disaster. I think he's going to be fine, but I just don't think he's going to reach the same ceiling that he's been at because when you take away

the two talented players that he has, by the way, they're one of I think it's like seven teammates all time that have made the Pro Bowl together. They're great talents. Kudos to Bruce Arians who said before the season that Goblin was going to catch 100 passes. He would have caught 100 passes had he stayed healthy.

He finishes with 86 if this is the last time we see him. So both guys have had fantastic seasons. And Miller, for when he's been on the field, he's been one of those reliable options for Jameis. But you can't expect him to be the same guy without those guys on the field. Okay. Last note, after Chris Goblin's injury, Jameis Winston was 8 of 11 for 101 yards and a touchdown, including a 25-yard touchdown pass to Prashad Perryman. So that brings us to Prashad Perryman. Is this the only Bucs wide receiver you're interested in this week?

Yes. Receiver or pass catcher? Wide receiver. Wide receiver. Yep. Okay. Because, yeah, all right. Because Watson had eight targets two games ago,

only two targets last week. Maybe he's a sleeper. But Perryman, like, okay, is Perryman ahead of that? DK Metcalf. I'll put T.Y. Hilton in there. Will Fuller group? He is for me. Yes.

Now, that's based on the hope. The floor is probably worse for him. Okay. I think he's going to get more than six targets. I know he's had six targets in three straight games, but I just don't see how he doesn't get more than that. And you should hope that he does. Hopefully.

I do wonder if it's going to be significantly more than that. Are we looking at eight targets? I think that might be the max. I don't think he's going to get a dozen. I'll say the same thing I said yesterday. Is he going to run a variety of different routes? He'll run a few. Is he going to see more targets than OJ Howard, who had

more targets than him last week? Is he going to see more targets than Justin Watson, who had more targets than him two games ago? Is he going to see more targets than Cameron Bray, who had more targets than him last week? They're all going to get a boost. Does the boost help, who had more targets than him last week. You know, so they're all going to get a boost. And so does the boost help him to the level that we saw last week? Does it help him, you know, the catches go up, the yards go up, doesn't score as much?

It's just, it's obviously a gamble. You know, don't value him based on last week's numbers and say that's the norm. And don't expect him to be Mike Evans or Chris Godwin, but there's a great opportunity here. It's something we look for all the time. It's, you know, player on a hot streak. He's got three straight games of quality production. He's got a quarterback that's playing well.

He's got a matchup that's favorable. So there's a lot to like. All right. And then finally, OJ Howard and even Cameron Brate should be in this discussion as well because Cameron Brate caught a touchdown last week, four catches, 30 yards, and a touchdown against the Colts. And the Texans are not very good

against tight ends. The Colts was two games ago. Oh, right. Sorry. He had three for 33 on seven targets last week. He did have seven targets last week. 15 targets between the two tight ends. I don't know if we talked about it here. I know we talked about on HQ what Jameis said to the two tight ends. Have we said that?

Yeah, Heath did. So, I mean, he walks into the building about it on HQ, what Jameis said to the two tight ends. Have we said that? Yeah, Heath did, yeah. Yeah, so he walks into the building and says, you guys are getting the rock. He likes his tight ends. We've talked about that since his college days. So there's probably some sleeper appeal to Cameron Brate and some must-start appeal to O.J. Howard. Okay, so O.J. Howard or Jacob Hollister?

Howard. I go back and forth with those two guys. I have Hollister ranked higher just because I think there's the free space. Yeah. But they're back-to-back for me. I actually have Hollister higher in PPR. But again, I'll start both over Higby at this point, and I'll start both over Jared Cook.

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or 49ers obliterated the Rams. Jared golfed through for less than 100 yards. Here's the stat of the, or 49ers obliterated the Rams. Jared Goff threw for less than 100 yards. Here's the stat of the game. There have been eight wide receivers with nine or more targets against San Francisco. Boyd, Michael Thomas, and Julio Jones had

big games. They had 122 more yards. But Thomas and Jones had 15 and 20 targets respectively. The other five receivers who had nine or more targets had 38, 41, 43, 46, and 70 yards, and only Devontae Adams scored in that group. So bottom line, if you take the wide receivers who had about nine to 11 or 12 targets,

most of them struggled, and that's where Robert Woods has lived lately. So what do you think about Robert Woods in this game? I think you've got to start him anyway. The biggest concern I've got is who plays how much? Because if Higby is going to be involved in the offense to any degree, and Gerald Everett is involved in the offense to any degree, how many times are they going to go with a three-receiver set?

And are they going to do what they did two weeks ago and use two tight ends more often to try and at least chip away at the 49ers pass rush? Because I don't think there's any doubt that the Niners are going to try and rattle Jared golf. So it makes sense for them to keep at least one tight end on the field at all times. Well,

my concern, Dave is that pass rush, which, which it did in the first game, they were all over golf. He's really bad when he's pressured. Very, so,

you know, obviously it's easy to say sit golf, but how do you feel, you know, let's bring Cup into this equation as well, who's been getting basically almost seems capped at six targets lately. Woods and Cup, how do you feel about them if I know we're all sitting Jared Goff? I think Cup's the number three receiver just because the target volume has gone down. He's been touchdown dependent. So this matchup's not easy, especially with Richard Sherman not playing, so the secondary gets better. Woods, I think you buy into just the target volume being there for him.

Last week was clearly frustrating when he still had nine targets and did nothing with it. But I think he'll be better this week just based on necessity and the fact of how much they'll probably be throwing because they're going to be chasing points on the road. Now, will Goff have success connecting with Woods? I mean, you know, they've been creative in moving him around the offense and the formation and, you know, also getting him some of those jet sweeps. So I would still feel comfortable with Woods,

but he's really the only Rams player that I like this week. I do think early is going to get shut down. I do think you're going to see the tight ends now become frustrating with Higby back. And Kup, again, has been unreliable. Obviously, he can't start Brandon Cooks. So I think it's going to be an ugly game, especially San Francisco coming off a loss and knowing what they're playing for. And Kup, again, has been unreliable. Obviously, he can't start Brandon Cooks. So I think it's going to be an ugly game, especially San Francisco coming off a loss and knowing what they're playing for.

And I think it's going to be easy for the Rams to try and get over this pass rush by throwing shorter passes. And to me, that benefits. It's going to be easy. Well, it's not necessarily going to be successful, but that's what I'm counting on when I'm starting Higby, is that the target volume stays where it is. Same thing with Woods. And to the degree of six to seven targets for Cooper Cup, same thing. So, yeah, I'm kind of okay with Cup as a number two receiver.

He's not like a top 15 guy. And Woods is a top 15 guy in TPR. Cup has been, I mean, he scored a touchdown in three straight games. But in his last eight games, Cooper Cup has more than 65 yards once, more than 53 yards twice, more than six targets three times in his last eight games. And now he's facing a team

that's arguably the best in football against wide receivers. They allow the fifth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. Oof. I mean, I'm nervous about all the Rams for sure, but Cup is just like, he has to score.

He has to score. No, I'm with you. You could still start Higby. It's an unknown now just because we don't know what's going to happen but it's certainly not. You shouldn't have the same confidence in starting him because we just don't know what's going to happen with Everett Beck. That's really a wild card.

I wish we could have a one game sample size of Higby with Everett like now after this amazing three game stretch. Remember the beginning of the season, it was Everett like like now you know after this amazing right and remember the beginning of the season it was Everett was putting up these type of right yeah yeah if anybody was right um all right so another stat of the game here Rams Niners let's look at how the Rams have done against wide receivers since acquiring Ramsey in eight games with Ramsey only four receivers have had more than 65 receiving yards. They are Julio Jones, Alex Erickson, James Washington, and DK Metcalf.

Only Washington, Marquise Brown, Willie Sneed, and Tavon Austin caught touchdowns. So all of the wide receivers in this game give me anxiety. Would you start Sanders or Debo? No. I'd pick Debo over Sanders, but neither are any better than a flex. How about... Yeah, Debo and Kup to me are the same type of guy. Okay.

That's what I was going to say. I like Kup better than Debo. Yeah, I'd probably go Debo. Just because there's more opportunity against a lesser defense. They're both defenses are good, but... Sure. I'll take my chances with the guy getting more targets.

I would imagine the 49ers are going to try and run the ball a lot. Sure. Todd Gurley, then we'll get to the Niners. Todd Gurley, 25 for Jamie, Inan, 28 in PPR. Dave and Heath have him top 16 in both. So big difference there. Todd Gurley or DeAndre Washington?

I'll go Gurley. Todd Gurley or Brashad Perryman? Perryman. Perryman. Perryman. Okay. Todd Gurley or Decaf Metcalf? Metcalf. I think Gurley's going to be better.

Okay, let's talk. So sit Goff. Start a sit Garoppolo. I would try and sit him. What's the total for this game? Jamie, do you have that off the top of your head? the total for I'll take a look how do you feel about Raheem Mostert?

I can't imagine it's that high. I kind of like Mostert and I wish I had him ranked a little bit higher than I do have him ranked but we know that he won't get every single touch but I could see him I've got him top 20 in non-PPR yeah I think that's right around where he can be. I think he's a good running back this week. I think the 49ers try and run,

go run heavy. And if they build a lead, whether it's a 10 or a 13 point lead, I think that's when they really try and crack the Rams with the run. This is LA second straight game on the road. Their run defense was pulverized last week by Zeke. And I'm sure the Niners fancy themselves as being able to run the ball as creatively and effectively as the Cowboys did. About 44 and a half. That seems high for this game. Let's see what the implied totals were. I don't know if either of these teams can get to 21 points.

Defensive touchdown. Sure. That'll work if you've got the Niners DST. They've had a pretty good run defense this year. They give up 4.1 yards per carry. They don't give up a lot in the passing game, but they do give up the 20th most. Well, they're 20th in fantasy points allowed to running backs,

so they give up some touchdowns. They were bad against Zeke. They were good against Carson, but Carson did average 5.1 yards per carry, and Mostert's just scoring a lot. He scored in, what, three or four straight games, I think? I believe he's got a floor of 10

PPR points. Yeah, so I mean... The past four weeks. Okay, would you start Mostert or Perryman? Still Perryman. I'd start Mostert or non-PPR, Perryman and PPR. Would you start Mostert or Cooper Cup start Mostert in non-PPR, Perryman in PPR. Would you start Mostert or Cooper Cup? Mostert.

Mostert in non-PPR, Cup in full PPR. Mostert or Robert Woods? I'll go Woods. Mostert in non-PPR. I think we have covered this game. Start George Kittle and Higby. Higby, we have a difference there. Dave likes him a lot more than Jamie does. Higby is 11th for Jamie and top 5

for Dave. So if you have O.J. Howard, you have Jacob Hollister. Jamie would say start them over him and Dave would not. Alright, moving on to our next. Oh, by the way, San Francisco DST definitely in play. 6 for Jamie, 10 for Dave, 5 for Heath. Green Bay is at Minnesota Monday night football.

Aaron Rodgers or Kirk Cousins, guys? I have Cousins higher, but I'm not feeling either guy. Back to back for me, I would take Rodgers slightly ahead of Cousins. Yeah, they're both around 15th in the rankings. Would you start them over Jimmy Garoppolo? I would. I would, yes. But the Dalton-Fitzpatrick showdown, I would. I would, yes.

But the Dalton Fitzpatrick showdown, those guys better than Rodgers and Cousins? I think they'll have more fantasy points, yes. They're not better, but they will have more fantasy points. That's right. Okay. Aaron Jones. 13 carries for 51 yards and two touchdowns. I am nervous about Aaron Jones. 13 carries for 51 yards and two touchdowns.

I am nervous about Aaron Jones. You guys are not based on your... Well, in PPR, Jamie's got him a 17. 13 in non-PPR. Dave has him top 10. Heath has Aaron Jones kind of low as a number two running back. I've been saying it. I have Mike Boone. I have

Aaron Jones. I might start boone over aaron jones i don't what's the format non-ppr yeah i would i can't like you cannot rely on a guy who gets 13 touches and he like look he got 22 touches the week before which was nice but typically he's 13 carries and very minimal passing game production here. And he's just so wildly inconsistent. The fantasy points are ridiculous for Aaron Jones. Five games with three or fewer non-PPR fantasy points. I get it. But he also has a bunch of games with huge fantasy points.

But they've almost all been – well, almost all of his touchdowns, rushing touchdowns have been at home. Ten of his 14 rushing touchdowns have been at home. All of his road rushing touchdowns were in one game at Dallas. I don't know if you care about that, but that's a weird stat. Maybe I should. And maybe if it bears out that his numbers at home are just way better than on the road and this is not an easy matchup for him,

then you can think twice on using Aaron Jones but I think that he's just a huge part of what the Packers want to do offensively yeah they are much better they're 66.4 rushing yards per game at home 4.8 yards per carry 49.8 rushing yards per game on the road 3.9 yards per carry that is about 17 and a half fewer yards rushing yards and game on the road, 3.9 yards per carry. That is about 17.5 fewer rushing yards and one fewer per carry on the road compared to at home. That could be fluky because that

didn't really happen last year. This guy's giving me a headache. I don't know what to do, guys. Is there a difference in the amount of touches he gets home versus road? I'm not sure. I think it's more like when they're trailing. They seem to prefer Jamal Williams in that role.

And obviously this is a pretty good run defense. It's not an elite clamped down run defense, but it's good. In the first game, he was terrible, right? Oh, no, he was great. I'm sorry. He had 23 carries, 116 yards, and a touchdown. But it was week two. And it was at home.

It was 23 carries, 116 yards, and a touchdown. But it was week two, and it was at home. It was 23 carries. So, all right. Let's talk about Mike Boone and bring him in. Because if Madison is out and Cook is out, is there a chance that we get some other running back getting more carries? We'll go, oh, we thought it was going to be Mike Boone, and it wasn't. And the comparison I made earlier in the week was you got excited about starting JD McKissick,

and bam, Bo Scarborough shows up and he takes over. Or did they go to Boone? I think Boone can settle in as their primary back to begin the game, and Amir Abdullah would handle passing downs. And if Boone struggles, then Amir Abdullah could come in. If he's playing okay, they give him a couple carries and they go

with him in the second half. We don't know for sure, which is just another reason why I'd rather go with Jones. Well, you'll know that game. What do you mean I'll know that game? Who they're going to use. Well, right, sure. I can't imagine that they're going to the game saying, we have to feature

Amir Abdullah. No, but if Boone gets off to a bad start, what do you think they're going to the game saying, we have to feature Amir Abdullah. No, but if Boone gets off to a bad start, what do you think they're going to do? They're just going to keep handing off to a guy that stinks? Sure, but I mean, if Aaron Jones gets off to a bad start, they could go to Jamal Williams. I guess that's fair, but it's just I know what the upside is with Aaron Jones, and I don't know it with Mike Boone.

Obviously, but it's kind of what we said all along with why you should be carrying Alexander Madison for the standpoint of this offense has been fantastic for running backs. Yeah, so I actually would feel better if Madison were playing. I would start Madison over Jones. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because Madison profiles as a three-down back, and we've seen him play well. Right, exactly.

I watched Boone play last. I saw his film from last week, and remember from Cincinnati and he's got quick feet like he's good with his feet, but I don't know if he's got a good second gear to him. He's he's he's pretty much worthy of being a third string NFL running back. 13 carries 56 yards and two touchdowns. Not bad at the Chargers. Packers are terrible against the run. They give up 4.8 yards per carry to running backs. So, you know, and two touchdowns. Not bad at the Chargers. Packers are terrible against the run. They give up 4.8 yards per carry to running backs.

So, you know, we like that. How about Austin Eckler and Melvin Gordon versus Aaron Jones? I would take the Chargers guys over Jones in PPR for sure. And in non-PPR, I'd start Jones over Eckler. I'd go Jones over both Chargers guys in non-PPR, I'd start Jones over Eckler. I'd go Jones over both Chargers guys in non-PPR. I would take Eckler over Jones in full PPR. Okay, thank you guys for helping me set one of my lineups. I appreciate it.

Start Devontae Adams. Vikings not good against wide receivers, so no questions here. Just start Devontae Adams. And how about Diggs and Phelan? How do you feel about them this week? Not great. Diggs and Thielen? How do you feel about them this week? Not great. Diggs I feel comfortable enough with. He's a solid number two receiver.

Thielen, I'm just concerned about how healthy he is and what his role is still coming back from injury. I wouldn't be surprised if Thielen had a good game, but I don't have a lot of confidence starting him beyond a number three receiver. I don't want to start either of these guys as anything more than number three receiver. Really? How come not Diggs? Just because he's been so flighty, I guess. And I think the weakness in the Packers' defense is the run game and not the passing game.

That is true. Yeah, that is true. All right, so if I said that Devontae Adams, Stephon Diggs, Aaron Jones, and starting Minnesota running back are your four flex options, how would you rank them? Adams, Diggs, I might be ranking them before you write it down, I don't know.

Adams, Diggs, Aaron Jones, Minnesota starting running back. What's the format? Half point PR. I'd go Adams, Diggs, Boone, Jones. I would go Adams,

Jones, Boone, Diggs. Diggs last five games against the Packers. He has scored a touchdown in every single one of them. He has six touchdowns over that span. He has two games with at least eight catches. He has two games with at least 77 yards.

Refresh my memory when they played in week two. I know he caught a long touchdown. One catch. That was his only catch. Didn't he have another one called back in that game? I believe so. He also fumbled. Or it was a drop.

Whatever it was. He almost had two big plays. Yep. His last two at home against them. Oh, no. That's weird. In his last five big plays. His last two at home against them. Oh no, that's weird. In his last five, he's only played one at home against them. And it was eight for 77 in a touchdown last year.

Alright, sit the tight ends in this game. And Minnesota's DST is top 12. Would you stream like the Falcons or the Broncos or the Colts over the Vikings? The thing about the Packers is Rodgers will get sacked, but he doesn't throw interceptions.

So you're probably not getting a pick six. You may get a fumble return for a touchdown, but it's just very rare that Rodgers throws interceptions. I would go with the Broncos over them. Chargers too. I don't know how highly on the Chargers are. Okay. How about the Colts?

Colts or Vikings? Vikings. Vikings. Okay. Okay. Next game is the Giants and the Redskins. Giants won the first meeting 24-3. It was not a very good fantasy game.

Terry McLaurin did not play in that game. Daniel Jones is 20th for Jamie, 22nd for Heath, not ranked for Dave. I do think that he's got some DFS appeal because he's had three huge games this year. Not good against the Redskins, but a lot of quarterbacks are. That was a Wayne Goldman game. That was a Wayne Goldman game. Speaking of which, Saquon Barkley.

Heath's kind of low on him, 15th in non-PPR, 10th in PPR. I was going to try to get into this, but I don't really see a reason to sit Barkley. I know he hasn't been playing that well, but the Redskins are almost, right now, as good of a matchup as the Dolphins. They've been so bad the last two weeks against running backs.

You're starting Barkley. The wide receivers are really interesting in this game. Who is your favorite wide receiver in this Giants-Redskins game? McLaurin. How much do you like him? Because I went into this preview being like, oh man, I can't wait to start Terry McLovin.

But the targets have really not been there. The yards have not. He's been too inconsistent with Dwayne Haskins for me to be that excited. But talk to me about him. I feel like they've connected more in the past couple of weeks and I'm trusting it, especially against the Giants secondary.

But both of these secondaries are kind of messy right now. Yeah. Giants is terrible. I mean, Giants are bad. They cut Jenkins. Who wasn't good? Baker's not a hundred percent.

Yeah, they, they are terrible. And all right. All right. So I'm, I'm in on on mclaren you guys all have them in the top 18 and non-ppr top 21 in ppr yeah he's better than non he doesn't catch a ton of passes so would you start terry mclaren or brashad perryman i would start perryman no i'm sorry i

start mclaren i've got perryman higher by one spot in PPR. Would you start Terry McLaurin or Robert Woods in Cooper Cup? I'd start, for sure, over Cup. I'd start Woods in PPR, and it's close in non-PPR. Woods, McLaurin, Cup. And how about McLaurin versus Mike Boone or Vikings starting running back? Boone and non-PPR, the receivers and PPR. Yep.

Okay, so then the other receivers, the Giants receivers. We have almost no sample of all these guys playing with Daniel Jones, although I think Slayton really has been the best. How do you rank the Giants wide receivers? I've got Slayton, Shepard, Tate. That's how I have it in non-PPR. And I don't love it because I don't know how good Daniel Jones can be.

He could be great this week. The matchup is great. I don't know if he can take advantage. Well, I mean, you don't have a big pass rush on him. You have some healthy receivers, finally. Kerrigan's out for Washington. Yep, done for the year. So, Slayton, four games with Golden Tate and Sterling Shepard.

He had 62 yards and a touchdown against the Vikings. Four catches for 67 yards at Chicago. Five catches, 154 yards, two touchdowns at Philadelphia, and two catches, 31 yards, and a touchdown against the Dolphins last week on only three targets. So in those four games with Tate and Shepard, he scored a touchdown in three of them,

and he had four catches for 67 yards in the other one. Eli Manning was his quarterback for two of those games. That's a good stat. I mean, if you want to be confident in Slayton, that will help. I think it's kind of a grab bag. Shepard had over 100 yards last week. That came out of nowhere. He's been so bad lately.

I don't really want to start. Do you guys want to start any of them? I would still start Slayton and I would start Shepard and PPR as a number three receiver. I just think this is those are the two guys that he's featuring. The Giants are featuring over the last few weeks. So you

sort of buy into that. You see what Slayton's upside is. You saw it two games ago with Eli Manning. And even prior to that he had been basically a floor of 10 PPR points for four straight games. So it seems as if they're trying to make him a focal point of this passing attack and his targets have been extremely high. So last week was frustrating, but

this secondary is bad. This defense is bad. I think there'll be some opportunities for Daniel Jones to make some throws down the field because he'll have some time. So I don't mind starting Slayton at all. Okay. Golden Tate, though, had a hell of a run with Daniel Jones. He had six or more targets in every game with Daniel Jones, and he had, like, he had

what, uh, 12? He had very few targets with Eli Manning. He had five and four. He had nine targets with Eli Manning. Most of those games where Tate was good, though, Shepard was out. That's right. He only had Shepard in two of the games with Daniel Jones. Okay, the tight ends, obviously no for Washington.

I say this about Caden Smith if Red Ellison's out. He was really good. Well, he was good with Daniel Jones. He had five for 17 and a touchdown at the Bears, and he had six for 70 against the Packers, and the Redskins allowed the fifth most fantasy points. So I don't know how useful that information is. It's not useful.

Forget it. Don't start. Don't even think about it. It's just going to be hard to trust him. That's a play for FanDuel more so than for seasonal. That's exactly where I was going. But also, when he was there, I don't know that

Shepard and Tate were playing at the same time. Yeah, whatever. Okay, the Redskins running back. We talked about Adrian Peterson. Peterson or Aaron Jones? Jones. Jones was close. Peterson or Darius Slayton?

I'll take Peterson and non-PPR. I'll take Peterson and non-PPR. I'll take Peterson and both. Okay, I think we're done with this game. Let's go to Jacksonville at Atlanta. So I consider this a favorable matchup for Devontae Freeman. I think we all do. He had, in my opinion,

only three of those so far this year. And in all three of them, he's had 16 to 19 carries, 84 to 88 rushing yards, two big games in those three games. Devontae Freeman, how much do you like him this week against the Jags? You got to love him because he's going to be that main running back for Atlanta. You mentioned the matchups and how he's done well previously in bad matchups. This is one of the best matchups you could ask for.

Jacksonville's defense is toast. Before last week, they allowed multiple touchdowns on the ground to a running back in four straight games. Wow. Freeman is a top 12 running back in non-PPR and a top 10 running back in PPR. Would you start Freeman over Fournette? Yes.

Yes. Are there any wide receivers in this game that you would start other than Julio Jones? That's about it. I don't feel great about Chark if he plays. Yeah, Chark would be like, I'd start Chark ahead of Cup. I'd start Chark ahead of the Jets guys. I'd start Chark ahead of the Jets guys. I'd start Chark ahead of

Thielen. I would start Chark ahead of Thielen and Robbie. Okay. Do you want to talk more about Leonard Fournette? Do we need to? I don't think so. I imagine most people are going to start him. If he does score, he's going to have a good game.

He's much safer in PPR. Gets a lot of catches. We know that. And Atlanta's run defense has been pretty bad lately. Although I feel like they were okay last week. I don't remember who they beat. It's such a weird defense. They were okay last week. You would think, okay, Jaguars struggling offense.

This should be a team that, the way they looked last week, should be able to do really well against, Jaguars struggling offense. This should be a team that looked the way that they looked last week should be able to do really well against the Jaguars. But we've seen them in this spot before when they were coming off the back-to-back games against the Saints and the Panthers. Then they just, you know, melted down again. We know you guys like Matt Ryan. He's top seven. And we know Heath likes Gardner Minshew.

Jamie, you like him too. And Dave does not. Yeah, I mean, his numbers on the road have been extremely consistent. So I think that'll keep up against the defense that has given up production to quarterbacks almost every game this year. No, I'm just not ready to trust him. Last week he was given a gift. So was Ryan, too.

It's a little, sure. It was a little bit different. It's a little bit different if Chark plays because we've seen men shoot a Chark and that's worked out well, but I don't think he's safe. But here's the thing. Last seven games,

the Falcons have given up more than 20 fantasy points once to a quarterback. It was Winston. They faced Drew Brees twice, Russell Wilson, faced Kyle Allen twice, and they faced Jimmy Garoppolo, and none of those guys scored more than 20 fantasy points.

So it's hard to buy into it because they had such a bad defense, but they've actually been stifling these quarterbacks lately. Yeah. I mean, we'll see if they do it again. I think Dave's right. It's not safe. But, you know, they're – his track record for the season, and I know why this is what Heath likes,

is this has kind of been where he lives in that 20 to 22-point range. I think that's kind of where he'll be again. I don't think it's going to be worse than 18 points. If that Falcons pass rush plays like it did last week, and this is part of the reason why you're saying that it's a weird defense, is because from week to week they go hot and cold. But if they're hot, then he's not going to get to 18 points. Okay, and how about Austin Hooper? How confident are you in Austin Hooper,

who's not been good really since coming back? No, he hasn't been good. He nearly had a touchdown last week. Yeah. And I still believe that he's going to be a part of this offense, but if Freeman's rolling, he's not going to be a big part. I probably have him ranked too high. But even with where I am, I think I'm like top six right now. I still view him as a top ten fantasy tight end.

I don't think I could start Hollister or Howard ahead of him. How about you, Jamie? Hollister, Howard, Hooper? Hooper over both. I just think, again, you saw six targets each the last two weeks. This is a favorable matchup at home. I do think the Jaguars offense is going to push the Falcons offense a little bit.

I think you'll see Matt Ryan still be around 30 pass attempts, and his targets will go six to eight for Hooper. I think he finds the end zone this week at home pass attempts, and his targets will go 6-8 for Hooper. I think he finds the end zone this week at home. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he did after nearly having one last week. Yeah, he's going to be a popular DFS player. I was listening to Mike McClure on the DFS bonus episode. Listen to that one.

By the way, Hooper has three red zone targets in two games since coming back and one target inside the 10, so that's a very good sign. All right, we've got to let Jamie go. We've got to do a radio hit now. Dave and I are going to take it from here with the last three games. Arizona is at Seattle. In their last six games, the Seahawks have allowed double-digit fantasy points in non-PPR to nine wide receivers.

Mike Evans, Brashad Perryman, Kendrick Bourne, Debo Samuel, Laquan Treadwell, Robert Woods, Cooper Cupp, DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel. In those games, though, Chris Godwin, Emmanuel Sanders, and Stephon Diggs didn't do well, but they've been pretty bad against wide receivers. Would you consider Christian Kirk or Larry Fitzgerald? I wouldn't. That's just a preference for me. I know that a lot of other people do like Kirk, and they see upside with him. I know he's battling an ankle injury. He should play, but his production is just,

it feels like he's either super, super good or super, super terrible. Yeah, he's three touchdowns all in one game. I can't trust it, especially if I'm not feeling Kyler Murray in a given week. I have a hard time buying into Kirk. All right, I know you guys are not feeling Kyler Murray. I given week, I have a hard time buying it to Kirk. I know you guys are not feeling Kyler Murray. I think there's some potential here, but there's not a ton of upside

because, again, the most fantasy points all year long against the Seahawks has been 24 in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. That was week one, and it was Dalton, and he threw 51 passes. They just don't give up big games. Now, Kenyon Drake, Chris Carson is like the most obvious star. You start Chris Carson,

he's tied top two or something like that. Kenyon Drake, how do you feel about him this week? I'm nervous just because he's almost like Christian Kirk, where he's going to give you single digit fantasy point production and then all of a sudden he explodes for four touchdowns but I do wonder if the Cardinals view him now more as a inside the 10 type of option because remember for most of this year they had a hard time scoring when they got in the red zone it's why Zane Gonzalez was so good because he was kicking a bunch of field goals I wonder if Drake is who they turn to, and I wouldn't be surprised if Drake saw an uptick in catches this week. I think he's a risky start, but maybe one worth taking toward the end of the number two running back range.

What I like about him is that with the Cardinals, this is going to be the best matchup he's had from a receiving standpoint. The Seahawks really struggle against pass-catching running backs, and this will be the team that's given up the most production to receiving running backs that he's faced. So I think he could be a solid PPR option.

Seahawks' run defense is pretty good, but they do give up a lot of touchdowns. So let's compare them. Five in their last three games. Yeah. Kenyon Drake or Brashad Perryman? Perryman. Kenyon Drake.

Let me get more wide receivers here. Kenyon Drake or Stefan Diggs? I believe I have Drake higher as of now. How about Drake or Anthony Miller? Miller. Okay. How about Drake or Aaron Jones? Jones.

All right. Even in PPR. You might get four or five more catches from Drake. Well, what's been the track record of catches for Drake? Oh, let me tell you, kind sir. I don't have it. I'm looking it up. I got it. I will answer my own question, my good man.

He has had three or fewer catches in each of his last three games, including five targets three weeks ago. That's his high in the last three weeks. That was against L.A. So before that, he was getting a good dose of targets, and he was having a good catch rate. I'd like to see the Cardinals go back to him. I'd like to think the Cardinals are smart enough

to try and take advantage of that. All right, so Dave says he's sitting Kirk and Fitzgerald. Russell Wilson's a must-start for us, top five quarterback. Chris Carson's a must-start. Tyler Lockett's a must-start, right? No question. Pretty much going to go right back to him. And Metcalf. Metcalf or Drake? I think there's more upside with Drake.

That's worth taking him. And I really believe in Jacob Hollister. Do you? Yeah. I mean, he's been close. I don't know if you have his numbers inside the 10 recently or not, but I do know that they've been trying to get him the ball. He's certainly playing a decent amount.

I don't see that changing. And we've seen every single team, teams that don't use their tight end on a regular basis or teams that have a tight end who we know about but isn't necessarily consistent, they go into these matchups against Arizona and they find a way to have a big game. So I'm willing to keep riding that stat into week 16 if I'm streaming tight ends. But I'm still going to go Higby over Hollister. I'm still going

to go Jared Cook over Hollister. I'm going to take any of the known name known name consistent fantasy tight ends ahead of Hollister. I just don't know that you can really say that about Tyler Higby, because you've got to admit that's kind of a gut feeling with Everett back.

I just think he's been such a huge part of that offense that it would be kind of dumb of Sean McVay to say, okay, go back to the bench or go back to being a blocker. And Goff just talked him up this week about how big of a catch radius he has, big target that he is. I'd be surprised. I'd be really, really surprised that the Rams took him off the field. Okay, here's my concern.

It's like, obviously we like Tyler Lockett coming off that big game, and we like Hollister. I'm sort of getting less excited about Metcalf because Russell Wilson just hasn't been good enough lately. Is he going to throw four touchdowns in this game? You know, he could. Would you put it past him? No, I wouldn't.

But I feel like between Metcalf, Hollister, and Lockett, one of them is going to let us down. Well, if we're talking PPR, if you look at the last five games for Metcalf, he scored once. And yet he's had at least 13 PPR points in all but one of those last five games. So six for 70 has been a pretty good floor for him. All right. Now, you might be able to say, well, what are the chances of him getting six catches in a game that the Seahawks should win

going away? Still not bad. I guess. He's had at least six grabs, and this is just going back longer than six weeks, or five weeks. It's six weeks. Four of his past six. I don't know that they're going to blow out the Cardinals. He's turning into the player that you saw him as

back in April through August. Yeah, I know. It's just with Lockett being emerging last week. All right, look, we'll see. Let's go to Kansas City and Chicago here. All right, we already talked about Mahomes. He's top six.

Start Mahomes. Sit the Kansas City running back. Start Tyree Kill. Start Travis Kelsey. Anything else for the Chiefs? There's no chance you're trusting Sammy Watkins. Don't even think about it. Okay, Trubisky. I'm going to be deciding between Trubisky and Dalton.

In a six-point-per-passing touchdown league, I'd go Dalton. This is a four-point-per-passing touchdown league. So I am considering going with Trubisky here. I see some potential. He's been all right lately. He did cobble together 17 fantasy points last week at Green Bay, which wasn't awful. But before that, it was 20, 29, and 37 in his previous three games.

And look, the Rams or the Chiefs on the road, they're not as good. But I can't really make an impassioned argument here for Mitchell Trubisky. I don't think you can. And we've seen this Chiefs defense just play really well against so-so quarterbacks the past four weeks. And they've got at least one interception per game, so you know that that's going to happen. Trubisky, I mean, turning the ball over, you might as well start his last name I-N-T instead of just T. In Trubisky. Mitchell in Trubisky.

And I don't know what the odds are of him having it. He could have two touchdowns. He could have two turnovers. I don't know what the odds are of him having... He could have two touchdowns. He could have two turnovers. I don't see him having a lot of yards. I think he's a long shot to get you 22 fantasy points. Yeah, I would agree. He has, though, 29

rushing yards and 63 rushing yards in his last two games. So the Chicago running backs, I mean, like you said, Cohen is a PPR flex, right? Yes. And it might be a good matchup. Yeah, I cannot. Please ask me David Montgomery questions because it will be so easy. I will say the other guy.

Now, hard to get away from Allen Robinson. I would like to point out Allen Robinson does not have a good game this year with less than eight targets. He has one game where he had seven catches for 77 yards on seven targets. Other than that, he has not. He has needed eight targets. He has one game where he had seven catches for 77 yards on seven targets. Other than that, he has not,

he has needed eight targets. He'll probably get them. So I think so. Yeah. He's been amazing. But the, how do you feel about Anthony Miller? Cause he's been on fire,

but the chiefs allow the fourth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. I think he's going to continue to see a lot of targets as well. I'm a little worried about him finding the end zone, but I think it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he finished this game with six catches for 90 yards. Okay. And for the last four games, here's what the Chiefs have done against wide receivers.

Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, Julian Edelman, Corlin Sutton, they all had 71 or more yards. Allen and Edelman scored. Three of those four wide receivers at double-digit targets. So the good wide receivers have done pretty well, but not great. Not huge games, really.

Well, I guess you could say Allen and Edelman did. Okay. Is there anything else I wanted to say about this? No, I don't think so. Kansas City DST, top 12. Four very good games in a row. And our last game is Dallas and Philadelphia. Here's a weird stat of the game. Jason Witten, he has seven or more targets in four of his last seven games. I wish there were more like six of

his last seven, but it isn't. It's four of his last seven. There have been three tight ends with seven or more targets against the Eagles this year, and all of them have caught a touchdown. So if he gets that, he might be pretty good. Can't really rely on it. What do you think about this game, Dallas and Philadelphia? I think you'll see a lot of running from Dallas. I think that with the injury to Dak, I think Zeke makes sense as a guy that gets heavy volume, which is good, and I think they're going to try and keep it that way as long as they can. I'd be surprised if Philadelphia built a big

lead early. I think they're going to have a hard time putting up a ton of points. But when they do, I think Wentz can deliver. Wouldn't be surprised to see Wentz find Sanders for a touchdown in this game. And I think Philadelphia comes away with a win and it could be something like 21-17. So Amari Cooper is still a must start, even with the Dak concerns? You know, I think he is, just because of the upside. I don't think I'm that concerned about Prescott. I mean, I feel like... He's top 12 still.

He's just not top 10 or top 8. Right, okay. Gallup, usually... I mean, this is a good opportunity for him. But he only has five games out of 12 with more than 70 yards. I think he's been slightly overrated this year. When he's made plays, he's been spectacular. Well, when you look at the Metcalf, Fuller, Gallaudet range...

Yeah, I can't put him in that range. He's below? Yeah. How about like Jamison Crowder or Michael Gallup? I think I'm going to take Crowder over Gallup. How about Devin Singletary against the Patriots or Gallup? Singletary. I'm a little worried about that volume for Gallup.

How about Greg Ward or Gallup? Ward Wow Okay Miles Sanders and Zeke are going to be starters Dallas Goddard or Jason Witten Who would you rather take a chance on? I feel safer with Goddard

As the number two Slash number three receiver How do you feel about Boston Scott? I think he's 10 points in PPR. Yeah, he's got 13 catches in his last two games. Cowboys, not great against pass-catching running backs, especially lately. So would you start Boston Scott or Mike Boone in PPR?

Boone. Okay. There's just way more upside. Boston Scott or Greg, Greg Ward. Ward. Do you like Dallas Scotter? I mean, he seems like a cool dude. Yeah, right?

Yeah, I mean. I wish he'd be a little bit better. He seems to be just okay all the time. Right. He's kind of in that 10 to 12 point PPR range. That's the only format I would trust him in. Alright. And we talked about

Carson Wentz. Dave likes him. He's got a maith. And hats off to the guy. In the last three games, he scored 30 points, 23 points, and 26 points. It was not always easy, but I think they're going to be trailing in this game. Yeah, I think he finds a way whether they're trailing or not. He's thrown 39 or more passes in six straight games that's just hard to ignore

for carson wentz yeah he's 14th for dame for jamie and 14th for heath he's eighth for dave so at least he's not like 20th you know um i think he opened our eyes last week having a good game yeah without anybody basically okay dave Dave. Thank you very much, sir. Good luck. I want to wish everybody the best of luck in week 16. We deserve this victory, don't we? We've worked hard all year. Please, fantasy

gods, do not cripple our teams. Do not make us sad. We want to be happy for the next six months. This is the week to do it. All right. We'll have a mailbag for you to help you out. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. For Dave, I'm Adam. And Jamie. Na, na, na, na.

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