Fantasy Football Today - 15 Most Wanted Fantasy Football Players of 2025! Daniels, Jeudy, Adams, Hubbard, & More! (06/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Who are the most wanted players in 2025 fantasy football drafts? From breakout candidates to proven studs, the FFT crew reveals the Top 15 players our analysts are targeting. Jamey Eisenberg, Dave Richard, and Heath Cummings debate where these names should go in your draft and how they could shape your season. Plus, we hit on the latest news, including JK Dobbins' visit with the Broncos (2:55), the Browns' QB situation (8:45), and other headlines. Then it's time for our “Most Wanted” segment: Heath kicks it off with Jerry Jeudy (15:50), Jauan Jennings (20:00), Matthew Golden (25:00), and D’Andre Swift (31:22). Dave follows with Tyler Warren (42:40), Davante Adams (46:25), Chuba Hubbard (51:26), and Jared Goff (55:30). Finally, Jamey wraps things up with his most wanted players (1:00:00) before answering your chat questions (1:03:00). Don’t miss it—these are the names that could define your 2025 fantasy season.... Your emails at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow FFT Express on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join our Facebook group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for the FFT newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fan To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Oh, we got a fun show for you today. No Adam Hazer, but we got you covered with the players that we're drafting the most of. The players that are the most wanted for myself, Jamie Heisenberg, Dave Richard and Heath Cumming. So, gonna get into all that stuff in a minute. Guys, how we doing? Heath, we had some movement in our Big Burger Dynasty League. You made a big trade. You want to let everybody know the moves that you're making as you are shaking up the league in the first round already.

Yeah, I made a trade and now I'm getting ready to make a pick on air. So it's all working out well. I traded 110 for the 18th pick, the sixth pick in round two, and DeAndre Swift and the sixth pick in round three and a 2026 second. So adding a little, I've got three 2026 seconds to 2026 first now and hopefully Swift increases this value. And Dave, you did not like that trait, correct? I'm worried about Swift coming through as anything more than like 12 PPR points per game. And you could make the argument that the type of player that you could have gotten at 10 could be even lower than that, especially at a different position. I don't know what your running back situation is like. Maybe you're desperate

for 12 PPR points per game. I do not know, but I, it almost feels like you turned a dollar into three quarters and two nickels. And so I don't feel like you necessarily got, like, great return on it, especially since you're just, you're missing out on getting a rookie who could end up being helpful to your team down the line in some other form or fashion. Yeah, you can get another rookie like that at 18 or wherever you fell back to and you got Swift in the process. I, maybe I'm just focusing too much on Swift and thinking that this is probably a make or break year for him. And if he can't get anything done this year, then he's never gonna, and he's not going to be an asset in fantasy.

So I would have taken the, the, the, the fresh hot young rookie at you would have taken, might've been. Tyler Warren is who you would have taken. He's going to fall in this draft because Dave's not in it. And Dave is always the guy that takes, that's a great transition to the show. Dave always takes Tyler Warren in our rookie drafts. One of my most wanted players.

And you take DeAndre Swift, one of your most wanted players. We're gonna get to that in a minute, but just wanted to bring up the movement that is going on in the Big Burger Dynasty League. And I apparently screwed Heath over by taking Quitchon-Dutkens one pick before Heath was on the clock. You actually weighed the trade. I made the pick after you made the trade, so I guess you were anticipating me taking

Dutkens. All right, so we're going to get into some of the players that we'll talk about here, which includes Deandre Swift and Tyler Warren, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nix, T Higgins, Coralyn Sutton, some guys we've been talking about a lot recently, but we'll add a few more names to that as well. But I want to get into the news and notes first because there is one very potential major news item that could be happening as early as today. And that involves J.K. Dobbins,

who is getting wined and dined by the Denver Broncos right now. And so we're all very excited about RJ Harvey, at least we were, being the potential feature guy for the Broncos. That might change now if Dobbins goes there. So Dave, if Dobbins does sign with the Broncos, what does that mean for their backfield?

It means that it'll be a little messier. It tells me that the coaching staff doesn't really love what they've got beyond the potential of Harvey, because they're adding a veteran to it who is versatile. He can catch the ball in the backfield. Clearly a good runner. He just has to stay healthy. And I'm sure the Broncos are thinking, Well, we're not going to need to put all of the work on J.K. Dobbin shoulders. He can be a 1B type of a running back. And that kind of takes away the upside of R.J. Harvey to be an every-down-workhorse type of running back, which of course he'd have to earn over the upside of R.J. Harvey to be an every down workhorse type of running back,

which of course he'd have to earn over the course of the season. But the pathway to that happening just gets much narrower with J.K. Dobbins there. Now, R.J. Harvey truthers will love this because it's going to drop his ADP for sure. I think we were talking about Harvey as like a round five pick. And now maybe he goes closer to the fence of round six and round seven If Dobbins is there and Dobbins will move up into like the round nine or round ten range So it really just depends on if you love the talent of Harvey and you're hoping that he ends up being the guy there That you're getting him at a discount already. That's a dip you want to buy the dip So he's how would you rank in redraft?

Yep. So Heath, how would you rank in redraft the rookie running backs post Ashton Genty if there is a Dobbin signing in Denver? So what would your order be past Genty for the rookie running backs? So it does get a little bit messy if we're talking about non half or full PPRs. I'm not going to... Full and half. Yeah, I'll go full PPR. I would have, so obviously it's Gentie. Then for me, it

would be Henderson, then Judkins, Hampton, Harvey Johnson. Henderson, Judkins, Hampton, Johnson. Harvey, right? Sorry. Harvey then, Harvey then Johnson. Harvey then Johnson. All right, Dave, what would the order be for you? Hampton would be after Gentie. So let's just remove Gentie from the equation like I think you were trying to do. Hampton for me, then Henderson, then Judkins, and then I'd probably go with Caleb Johnson over RJ Harvey. I hate to do it because I think the talent with Harvey is better, but I think the situation is better for Caleb Johnson if Dobbins was healthy, ready to go to training camp, etc.

in Denver? It would be, for me, it would be Henderson, Hampton, Judkins, Johnson, Harvey, and then Heath from a dynasty perspective. If Dobbins comes in and is healthy, this makes me nervous for Harvey because at 24, is he losing a big opportunity in what could have been, and still might be, but what could have been like a featured opportunity for Sean Payton and now he may be sharing and who knows how long this contract might be if it does happen where it could be two years and he's there

for maybe multiple seasons. So I think I had a little lower opinion of Harvey's talent than Dave did. Um, so I was all, I, I hadn't drafted RJ Harvey in a rookie mock yet, or in a rookie draft yet. So I probably won't downgrade him too much, but we've seen him in our draft. So he went ahead of both Judkins and Johnson and the most recent in the draft that we're in right now, the baked burger dynasty league, um, I had him behind both of those guys, so I think he's definitely still a first round pick, but he probably doesn't get pushed up into

that top six range in drafts like he has been lately, which is why I haven't drafted him. I cannot confirm or deny that I may have taunted Adam Azer last night after he took Harvey in the Big Burger Dynasty League and said, did you see the Dobbins news? Oh, and he didn't? He had already made the pick. I mean, the news was after he had made his selection. I think the age factor is definitely something. That's something I didn't think about, but that's a really good call. Let me ask you this question, guys. Is there a rookie running back outside of Gentie that you would take with a top 50 pick right now in redraft? In PPR, I would take Henderson in the top 50.

Yeah, I've actually got Henderson, Judkins, and Hampton like right at that four or five turn. So all three of them are very close to top 50. Yeah. And I would have taken Harvey in the top 50 if I will take him in the top 50 if this move does not happen. Okay. So he was my second favorite running back prior to this potential news.

So maybe Dobbins does not get the contract offer that he wants and you know, we'll still see what happens. I don't think Harvey can have a very good role in a good season, but this just lowers the ceiling because of a very, very talented running back coming in for competition. If anything, I think it clarifies things a little bit for me because I'm still a little bit uncertain about which of the myriad of roles in a Sean Payton running back room R.J. Harvey is going to fill. And if Dobbins was there, now you know Dobbins is probably taking a good chunk of the early downs work and Harvey's probably more of the receiving back.

So it's at least easier to project in that situation. Right. And again, Dobbins has a very lengthy injury track record as we know, and even got hurt last year and missed four games. So just keep that in mind as great as he was, he was missing for four games and they could still get 50 plus catches out of Harvey as we saw for Devontae Williams last year. And that could still give him a very excellent fantasy floor if he's going to be catching all those passes. Now take into account what we said about Audrick Estime yesterday and throw that out the window because I think Estime's role would be completely crushed if Dobbins is there and Jalil McLaughlin as well.

So something to monitor and obviously we'll talk about it if it does come to fruition that Dobbins signs with the Broncos. Other news that I wanted to bring up and this involves the Browns quarterback room. So we'll go from that right into Heath's list about Jerry Judy, but this is Tommy Reese, their offense coordinator. And again, this is gonna be one of the bigger training camp battles that we take a look at in Cleveland with their quarterbacks, the four guys that are battling

for the starting job, which is Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, and Shadr Sanders. And Sanders, by all accounts, is having a good OTA so far, so that's a positive sign as well. But here's what Reese said, quote, you can see them all winning the job. In terms of the competition, we're so early in the process. We're so early in evaluating it.

But we have a good group of guys that are continuing to push one another. By the time September rolls around, we'll be ready to go. So Keith, you're going to talk about Judy, but Dave, I want to get your take on this, because obviously it impacts a lot of players. Judkins, the running back situation, the running back room there in Cleveland, but clearly the pass catchers of Judy, David Njoku, Cedric Tillman if you're buying him.

So which quarterback do you want to see win the job? And how much do you put stock into maybe the rookies playing or even Kenny Pickett playing at some point when telling people where to draft Judy and Nijoku and Tillman? The quarterback who I want to win the job is Flacco. The quarterback who I think will win the job, I don't know if that's going to be Flacco. I think that there's a couple of interesting signs. Number one, just the fact that they traded for Pickett, they gave up something for Pickett, that tells me that coaching staff sees something in him. And the fact that they drafted Dylan Gabriel before they drafted Shadr Sanders, that tells me that coaching staff sees something in him. And the fact that they drafted Dylan Gabriel before they drafted Shadr Sanders, that tells me that the scouts and the coaching staff, they see something in him, too. It just, it makes

me very, very worried about how downfield targets would go. And that's something that would impact Judy and Tillman a little bit more than Njoku. Njoku's been like, Mr. Checkdown short area target, red zone guy, after catch playmaker. Like I'm not really worried about this for Nijoku. I really like Nijoku a lot this year in fantasy. I think he's being under drafted. But I do worry a little bit about those rookies getting in there. And what that could do to Judy's catchable target rate, how many is he going to have throws going over his head and, you know, is again, is it, are the rookies going to struggle in the pocket and get sacked or turn the ball over?

There's a hundred ways that it could go down. So it does worry me a little bit about Judy. And frankly, with Pickett, that worries me a little bit too. Flacco's the veteran. Flacco knows how to get the ball out when the pressure's on. Flacco's the guy who's been throwing yolo balls for like three seasons now. Absolutely that's the quarterback I want to have under center if I'm drafting Jerry Judy. Heath, we're going to talk about Judy in a couple of minutes, but just in terms of the

quarterbacks, specifically from a dynasty perspective with the rookies, do you have a similar opinion that maybe Gabriel could be the guy ahead of Sanders based on how he was drafted? And in a super flex draft, like how are you telling people to take a look at those two guys, Sanders and Gabriel in particular? So I am kind of sticking my head in the sand about the draft capital because I don't think Dylan Gabriel is actually a potential NFL starting quarterback. I think there are other reasons that Sanders fell in the draft and he might not be a potential NFL starting quarterback either, but I still have a little bit more hope for him.

So even in a super flex league, I'm not really considering either one of these guys until maybe the two, three turn. If you're really desperate at quarterback, I'd rather in round three, I'm probably, I have multiple round three picks in the bake burger dynasty league. And I have Drake may Justin Fields in the Baker Burger Dynasty League, and I have Drake May, Justin Fields, and Russell Wilson as my quarterback, so I could use some security there. I might use one of those round three picks on Sanders. There's no way I'm taking Dylan Gabriel before round four.

Yeah, I would take Sanders over Gabriel myself. I think just again, I hope talent wins out there as opposed to maybe them taking a chance on Gabriel and then still Sanders being on the board and like, okay, we'll pull the trigger here despite some of the potential meetings going bad and however the draft process unfolded for him. But clearly the Browns did have a good evaluation on Gabriel. So taking him ahead of Sanders, even at that point in the draft, kind of tells you something. A couple other news items before we move on here and get into the topic of the day. Rashad Bateman signed a three year $36.75 million extension with $20 million guaranteed. Keith, your interest level in Rashad Bateman is what?

Very, very low, but higher in best ball leagues. I think the problem with Rashad Bateman is he's probably going to score seven or eight touchdowns this year and you have no idea when they're going to happen and he's rarely going to have enough catches or yards to matter. So he's really a best ball only type player for me. And Dave, Derek Carr, uh, commenting for the first time, I believe about his retirement saying it was quote, the right thing for him to do to retire. And even leaving the money on the table.

Uh, obviously we'll see if Derek Carr ever decides to return to the NFL. It would be a surprise probably at his age if he does come back, but wouldn't be unfounded. Uh, but in the case of the saints quarterback situation, to the Browns quarterback situation is there a guy that you would like to see win the starting job out of Chuck Spencer rattler those are probably the two most prominent options to be the starting quarterback this year i want to see Kenny Pickett get traded there can we talk about the bronze quarterbacks again somehow that's a more fun topic uh look i i think it's going to be gross. I don't know how you can feel good about that passing game, outside of

checkdowns to Kamara, short throws to Olaavant crossers and, you know, post stuff like that slants. I really, I'm very nervous about what this means for this team. I don't think their defense is particularly great either at this point. This could be one of the worst teams in the NFL and the type of team that you want to target. They take on Arizona in week one. You might want to draft the Cardinals DST. Not a bad call.

And Rattler really struggled last year when he was the starter for the Saints and maybe Tyler Shuck could be Better as the starter. I'm sure he'll see a lot of playing time in 2025 are we take a break when we come back a couple things to note we're gonna get into the List for Heath of his most targeted players and drafts so far Jayden Daniels Deandre Swift Jerry Judy Joanne Jennings and Matthew Golden we're gonna answer some of your questions from the chat So start posting your questions for 2025 dynasty Dynasty, anything you want to answer, have us answer for you. Start posting in the chat. Thomas will put them on the screen at the

end of the show, but get those questions up now. But we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, it's Heath's most targeted players for 2025. Are you crushing your bills? Defeating your monthly payments? Sounds like you're at the top of your financial game. Rise to it with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card, the credit card that rewards your good financial habits. Earn points for paying your credit card bill in full and on time every month. Level up from bill payer to reward slayer.

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that we've all taken part in, obviously a lot of our own mock drafts. They've done a lot of fan mock drafts as well. So these could be from several drafts. It could be from one draft. I'm not exactly sure what list the guys have given, but here's these five players that were sent in to Thomas. Jayden Daniels, Deandre Swift, Jerry Judy, Joann Jennings, and Matthew Golden.

So let's just keep going with the Browns quarterback theme here. Jerry Judy Heath, I know we've discussed this quite a bit, but which quarterback do you want to see for how long be the starting starter there for Cleveland? I want Joe Flacco to start 17 games, please. Can I please have 17 games of Joe Flacco? I think that Jerry Judy could be a borderline top 12 wide receiver in that situation. It's not particularly likely. So I think you have to start doing the math of how many games does Judy, does Flacco have to play to justify this, this ranking of Judy.

I, I, and that's really hard math to do. The nice thing is most of the times, unless one of you guys take them, why you see Jerry, Judy fall to that mid wide receiver three range. And so I, I think there's a couple of outs to where that could still work, even if Flacco doesn't start the whole season, one should or Sanders could just actually be good at football. And that's probably my second biggest hope at the, at the quarterback position for the Browns.

If it's picket, you're probably taking a small loss on drafting Judy as a mid-wide receiver three. And if it's Gabriel, I'm going to be terrified. But that's, that's kind of the way that I'm viewing it. But I do think the range of upside is probably a little higher than what type of downside concerns do you have if you're drafting a guy as a mid-wide receiver three? Dave, when we look at Jerry Judy season last year, if you're watching on YouTube, you could see his game log on CBSWars.com. The beginning part of the season was Deshaun Watson. And I think a lot of people think, OK, as soon as Watson left with the Achilles

injury and Jameis Winston took over, it was fantastic for Judy. But really, it coincided with not only that, it was also Amari Cooper getting traded to Buffalo. How much of it was the quarterback? How much of it was the quarterback? How much of it was the opportunity? And as Adam Azer has said a few times on our shows here, that Judy had shown flashes in Denver, it just was never consistent. And so are you just buying the fact, if you are buying Judy, are you buying the fact that, okay, he's going to be the number one guy, he's going to get targeted, you know, to whatever extent, the quarterback play could either be great in terms of Flacco to whatever Flacco, you know, brings out of Jerry

Judy, or it could just be that this was just finally a good opportunity for him and he's taking advantage of it. I think it's a lot about the opportunity. He averaged eight and a half targets per game. It was weighted after Deshaun Watson was removed from the field. And you know, the nice thing about Jamis is, is that he, he, he plays a lot of Yolo ball too, and so he'll put the ball in dangerous places. He'll throw to targets further downfield.

He's not scared about those types of plays and he'll let the chips fall where they may, and a lot of times Judy helped them out in a big way. So I'm hoping that they've got a quarterback that will sling it a little bit and not somebody who's going to be meek in the pocket and not consider throwing 10, 15, 20 yards downfield. Not that Judy runs a ton of those routes, but still, you want somebody that's going to be able to catch a ball, let's call it 10 yards downfield, and then keep running to add yards after the catch. Judy did a lot of that last year. His fantasy point production was amazing because of it at 18.5. I don't think it'll be at 18.5 this year. I think that's beyond the ceiling, but I think he can still be around 14, 15 PPR points and we'll talk about that about a lot of receivers this year. And he's getting drafted in, in our ADP. He's right before the end of round five.

I think I'm okay with him going at that point in full PPR. Top 30-ish overall receiver. Heath, I know you have them a little bit higher than that, earlier than that, depending on how we're phrasing this. Who are some receivers you would take Jerry Judy over? Thankfully, I'm gonna have more information on the quarterback battle before I have to make like significant decisions.

But, but right now I would take him over the bucks. I would take him over, um, Devante Smith, Debo Samuel, Travis Hunter, Juwan Jennings, A Flowers, Marvin Harrison Jr., that range of wide receiver. So you're banking on a big season for him with probably Joe Flacco or as you alluded to maybe Sanders still being hopefully not a huge drop off. Right. And like I said, if I project 17 games of Flacco and Judy, I get to wide receiver 14. So I'd take them over a lot of guys. But even if Flacco wins the job week one, we're not guaranteed 17 games of that.

Let's talk about Joanne Jennings. I know we've had a lot of conversations about the 49ers overall, their skill players and this receiving core. When are you comfortable drafting Joanne Jennings and what are your expectations for him factoring in maybe when Brandon Nyuk will return from his knee injury that I expect to hold him out the beginning part of the season, but we just don't know. Ricky Pierce, I was dealing with a hamstring injury right now. How do you sort of evaluate the 49ers receiving core and then where your projections slash when are you pulling the trigger on drafting Joanne Jennings?

Yeah, Jennings, I will draft about a round later than where Dave said Judy was going that six, seven turn. And I expect him to lead the 49ers and targets this year to lead them. Um, definitely the first half of the season and then I, you can't make up for it in the second half. I think it's, uh, it's a good opportunity and I've done it several times. You can take Jennings and Pierce all both after around six sometimes. And if you can do that, then you give yourself a little bit of security. Isn't maybe Adam's friendship strategy, but he was, he was so good before last

year, basically anytime he got an opportunity on a per route basis. And Jacob Gibbs has highlighted this and then he got the opportunity last year and he was really good again. And so without IU, I'm not explaining. And again, this could change too. If IU ready for week one, we'll have to lower Jennings a little bit. But as of right now, I'm not expecting IUK for at least the first month of the season. I'm not expecting him to be himself for the first half of the season.

So I think Jennings is probably functions as a wide receiver two in fantasy for the first eight weeks. And then he's more of a borderline wide receiver three after that. So I don't believe that you were on the show and we discussed Jennings earlier this week and Dave you've made the move now unless you changed it after the show to put Pierce all ahead of Jennings, correct? Yes. More upside. And I didn't like the stark inconsistency that we saw in terms of fantasy

production from Joann Jennings. Here's a fun fact. This really means nothing. Rashad Bateman, who no one is drafting, had more games last year with 15 plus PPR points than Joann Jennings, who everybody's drafting. I tend to agree that the consensus will be that Jennings will be the top target getter in San Francisco. It's what he does with those targets, how explosive he'll be with them. That's where I get hung up a little bit. And Piersall just has an opportunity, provided that he's healthy and all that other stuff. Look, he's the more explosive receiver. He, I think he can do a little bit more as far as, you know, winning on routes against offensive backs than Jawan Jennings can. They win in different ways. He's not as physical as Jennings, but Jennings isn't as fast or as elusive as Pearsall is. And I think there's, there's potential

for Pearsall to be the best receiver in San Francisco in terms of stats, yards, touchdowns, efficiency, all that. So I, he could outproduce Joann Jennings there. So I kind of want to buy into that upside a little bit more. And Jennings, to me, is like one of those settle-for wide receiver 3s. And his, his, in our, in our mock drafts, our fans' only mock drafts, he's going in round 7, and it's late round 7. And I'm totally fine with him at that cost. If we're talking about, you know, 65th overall or something like that, I think there's some other wide receivers I'd rather take the chance on than Jennings. And Pearsall would be one of them. As we discussed earlier this week, and it was the show with, with Dan Schneier, that there's so much, there's so many different ways this can go. I mean, you know, again, I, you can return, if not Week 1 early in the season, and then, you know, it's just a pain in the butt to figure out who's going to be the best guy on a week to week basis.

Pearsall's pedigree may win out and the final two games last year were very good for him. So hopefully the hamstring is right and he's going to have a strong season. Jennings, the one game you saw without Debo Samuel, again, George Kittle was missing, but he had over 40 PBR points. I mean, it was very impressive. Yeah. Lots to like about really all three of these guys to varying degrees. Again, George Kittle was missing, but he had over 40 PBR points. It was very impressive. Yeah. Lots to like about really all three of these guys to varying degrees.

I think the one thing that I think we come where we come out on as our group and our show is that I you should not go first. Based on the ADP that we saw, we put in fantasy pros that I used to being the first one drafted. If you are buying IU, let him fall. Don't reach for him before these guys, especially as we get closer to camp and we get a better idea of when he's going to be healthy. And clearly that will change, I would hope at least. But it does make me want to draft Christian McCaffrey because if he's right, he could have the chance for a big season. And it definitely makes me want to draft

George Kittle because while there is a lot of questions about the receiving core, Kittle's coming off another strong season and is going to go after the top two tight ends for sure and so could still easily be in contention to be tight end one which you know on a per game basis he was last year so hopefully Kittle has another strong season but I think it's gonna be fun to see how these receivers all sort of you know shake out and when they do sort of have a better we have a better idea of what the average opposition will be. Let's talk about Matthew Goldenheath, because a lot of people wondering who's going to be the best receiver, maybe even best pass catcher, because Dave has Tucker Kraft on his list,

which we can get to in a little bit. But in terms of Matthew Golden, how do you sort of view the Packers receiving for this year with Jayden Reed and maybe Christian Watson returning sooner than we expected? He's already taking some part in OTAs. I'm sure just working off on the side but with Romeo Dobbs there still and and on Tavian Wicks to whatever degrees. How do you see Golden's role in this Packers offense and how good could he be for fantasy managers? I expect Golden to be the best wide receiver on the Packers as a rookie. I expect him to play in most two wide receiver sets alongside probably Romeo Dobbs.

I view this room as golden as a borderline wide receiver for three high end wide receiver for Dobbs and Reed about eight spots behind him. I think the thing I struggle with is Reed's efficiency versus the fact that Dobbs is going to be on the field all the time. And that's kind of been a struggle over the last couple of years. But I said this after the NFL draft and it's just kind of my working assumption moving forward. This was a team, I'm not even sure if you said Dontavian Wicks, this is a team that might have had four number two wide receivers going into the NFL draft, hadn't drafted a wide receiver in the first round since I've been employed at CBS and longer.

I'm not sure if all of us can say that, but not Dave. Um, no, I think before Dave, right. What are we, what are we done? When the last time they drafted a wide receiver in round one, I was with CBS. Dave was always at CBS in this building. Okay guys. So I, I classes on. My working assumption is that when they already had that many very talented number two wide receivers

and they finally spent first round draft capital on a wide receiver that Golden was going to get an opportunity to function as the number one. I think he's up to that opportunity. He has better hands than anybody else on this team and he's already making some noise this summer. So when are you comfortable taking golden and redraft league? I, it's gotta be as a, as a bench wide receiver. I'm not comfortable starting him early in the year, even though I'm optimistic about what type of upside you could have.

I think seven, eight turn and really I'd prefer around eight is, is a good time for golden. Dave, you think that's too soon? I, well, I don't know if it's necessarily too soon. It's too rich for my blood. Uh, the ADP says Heath could wait a full round after that and still get Matthew golden. Uh, so this, this, I think this is the second player in a row, Heath, where you're taking a guy around ahead of, of our ADP and that's fine. Listen, you're entitled to that. And when you're right about it, you'll look like a genius. The thing that worries me a little bit about Golden is it took him a while to be the

number one receiver at Texas. And when he was, he was great and his playing time went up, his, the efficiency was awesome. I'm wondering if they're going to take it slowly with Golden. the efficiency was awesome. I'm wondering if they're going to take it slowly with Golden. And so I, like, right now, I am drafting Kraft out of Golden. I know that sounds preposterous. But I really think that Kraft has potential to be a really good PPR tight end. His efficiency was outstanding last year. He just needs more targets per game. They've already been talking like they're going to do that in Green Bay. I'm good with Tucker Kraft as a top 10 fantasy tight end. But if we're doing drafts at midseason, I got a feeling Matthew Golden would be like one of the best breakout candidates then. So if you do draft Golden, I'd wait till round 8-9 instead of 7-8. And I'd be really patient, because the talent is, is awesome really patient because the talent is awesome based on those last 10 games of last season. And I'm hoping that the Packers can do something that we haven't really seen them do in a long,

long time. And that's create a good receiver in his first year for fantasy purposes. We can cover Craft Air and tie in this entire group because I think as we've seen and we talked about that there's just not a lot of targets for the lead guy. It feels like we're going to see maybe 110 targets as the number one option unless things dramatically change. And Jordan Love, I think recently just addressed how he played last year versus the success of the team. And there was a new wrinkle added based on how 2023 finished to 2024, which was Josh Jacobs.

So is this going to be a little bit more of a pass happy team? And it sounds like that's what you're thinking, Heath, I think based on the draft capital, maybe for Golden, that they could throw the ball a little bit more and involve Golden, maybe more so than what we saw for the last two years of the number one receiver? Yes, on the second part for sure. The first part, if they had not drafted Matthew Golden, I would have projected them to throw more than they did last year because last year was such a outlier in terms of what Matt LaFleur has done and an outlier in terms of what the general NFL does. Like they just decided after love got hurt and struggled with the interceptions early in the year that they were just going to run the ball and run the ball and run the

ball. And so I think there's a little bit of regression back to the mean, even if they and struggled with the interceptions early in the year that they were just going to run the bowl and run the bowl and run the bowl. And then, so I think there's a little bit of regression back to the mean, even if they don't take a wide receiver in round one, but yeah, the wide wide receiver in round one does influence that as well. The other thing I wanted to say about what Dave said about taking a guy around before their ADP. That is a much different discussion. If you're talking about taking a guy with a round late round 3

ADP in round 2 or maybe even round 3 versus round 4 if you're talking about a guy with around 8 or later ADP and you want that guy on your team I would not advise waiting until his ADP to take him because there's a wide range of where guys go that late in the draft yeah you have a better chance of losing out on that guy if you wait till the ADP. You're also dependent on where you're drafting, you know, if you're on an end, you're also looking at the position, you know, because ADP is even if it's specific to the format that you're in, you know, you never know how that's going to go with the draft that you're doing and the people that you're drafting with.

So it's just a guide. You're gonna hear us say ADP for certain players, numbers, different ADPs, especially as the summer goes on. Don't let that influence when you take a player. If you have a feeling on a player, like Heath likes Matthew Golden, don't lose out on that player and say, oh, the ADP was around later. I could have waited. No, get the guy that you want, especially as Heath is saying that late in the draft.

All right. So you made a big trade to get Deandre Swift in a dynasty league. Let's talk about his redraft value. So if Dobbins is off the market, let's say, and he goes to Denver and maybe there is still the interest in Nick Chubb, well, let's just say that they get to week one, forget about training camp, they get to week one and it's DeAndre Swift and either some combination of Roshan Johnson or Mahogany, whatever his name is, the rookie that they drafted late in the NFL draft.

Swift could be in maybe the best situation of his career. So your expectations for DeAndre Swift are? If they don't add anybody else, I've got him at RB 16 or 17 in the projections. He has been between that range and RB 24 his entire career. He's never finished outside of the top 24 running backs on a per game basis. And now he may have the least competition, well, the account, Jalen hurts his competition in Philadelphia, maybe, but the least competition that he's faced with the Ben Johnson upgrade. And so I, I, it feels like Swift is currently being drafted as if the team's already signed

Dobbins or Chubb or just with the expectation that eventually they're going to sign Dobbins or Chubb. And that hasn't happened yet. So you can draft them at cost right now. And if they do sign Dobbins or Chubb, it's still probably what he's worth. Even if they sign one of those guys, they're not going to take the passing downs work. And we know the Johnson offense has thrown to the running backs a lot. And if they don't sign one of those guys, there's legitimate top 12 upside for Swift. And I think that the,

what Dave said earlier and show about the 12 PPR fantasy points per game, again, I think that's closer to what Swift's demonstrated floor is. And he had 12 and a half PPR fantasy points per game last year. He had 12 and a half, I think in 2023, but he's also shown the ability to score significantly more than that. And I don't, he's never been worse than that. Rashad Wyatt averaged 12 and a half PPR points per game last year. That finished 23rd among running back.

So if you're drafting them with that type of expectation, I don't think it's very exciting. But it's, I think it's fair. And my guess is that we're both going to look like geniuses for half the season and like donkeys for half the season. Because there there have been, you know, portions of previous years where DeAndre Swift catches fire, looks like a must-start fantasy running back, and then something happens. Either he loses playing time or quarterback starts taking touchdowns away from him or he gets hurt. And then he's useless for fantasy managers, and you're wondering why you even put him on your team in the first place. But OK, I think if you're drafting him to be a low-end two fantasy running back. Maybe he's got a little bit of upside. Hey, it's got to be considered a good thing that he's still even on the Bears. Ben Johnson's had months to evaluate him and he's clearly decided, okay, I want this guy on my team. I don't think there's any reason for him to cut him necessarily anyway. Yeah, he's probably gonna be a borderline number two fantasy running back. If you draft him past that point, then I guess it makes sense. When are you drafting him? That's the big question.

I'll draft him as a low end RB too. I think if you look at the five years of his career, it's two 12 and a half points per game performances. There's a 13 and a half, there's a 14 and a half, and there's a 16 and a half. If this is the best situation of his career, I'm not sure why the assumption would be he's just going to be the worst that he's ever been. It's a matter of the situation of his career. Well, I mean, it could be there. There's there's clearly, you know, ways that this could go poorly. You know, if Ben Johnson, who had him at one point. You know, this was one of his coaches previously and had some, you know, up and

down usage with him when he was in Detroit. And so can he get the touchdowns? We saw that that was an issue for him in Philadelphia when he was having a productive season. So this could be Roshan Johnson, Caleb Williams, you know, any other running back that's on the roster that may be taking those opportunities away from him. So those, you know, additional points that we we love aren't going to be there for him. The role in the passing game may not materialize like what we saw from Detroit.

And so there are some things that may be keeping him from reaching what could be a nice ceiling and still giving him a decent floor. I think just the idea would be, and I'm guessing we all kind of come out in the same scenario from a draft perspective,ting him after RB20, I think makes some sense. And when you factor in some of these rookie situations that could get even more murky, Hampton with Najee Harris there, maybe now Harvey with JK Dobbins there, Caleb Johnson with Jalen Warren there. Even Henderson with Ramandre Stevenson there. These could all be bad for these rookies as

much as we like their opportunities more so long-term, maybe than short-term. Uh, Swift, if he's the lead running back for Ben Johnson with a revamped offensive line and better quarterback play, it could be a pretty, uh, pretty solid season for me. That I think you want to jump in just to get the last word here. No, no, that was, you've said most of the things I was going to say. I would say I'm a little bit higher than our B 20, but whether he's above or below the non-Gentee rookies for me is going to really come down to whether or not Dobbins or Chubbs on the bears.

But if those guys are not on the bears, I'll take him over any rookie, not named Gentie middle around 60th. Oh, so that's the thing is I would take him. Yes. I probably take him in round five usually because I take him around earlier than ADP. But I think he's worth a pick in round four. I don't, I think round six is insanely late value for him. Uh, Jay and Daniels, I don't think we need to spend much time on him, but Heath, if I'm not mistaken, he is your QB one for this year, correct? He's my QB one. I never

draft him as QB one. I just wait until Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson get taken. And usually in our drafts, Daniel's there in round four. And that's why I have so much of them. So any concern over a step back? Yeah. My only concern is an injury. I thought what he did last year and the way he produced fantasy points was mostly sustainable. He added a second weapon in Debo Samuel, whichever, whatever you think of how much Samuel has left over in the tank.

It's more than what the wide receiver two, three and four were producing in Washington last year. I think the weapons got better. He's had another year to get comfortable with the offense. I hope he doesn't get hurt. I want to make you smile. Do you fear a CJ Stroud situation where great as a rookie, and I know the running is clearly different, but just in terms of great rookie season, step back in year two to whatever degree. I think the situation around Daniels is a lot cooler than the situation that was around Stroud last year.

is a lot cooler than the situation that was around Stroud last year. There seemed to be some sort of disconnect between the play caller, the offensive line, and the quarterback. I don't think that's going to be the case, even though now the left tackle for Washington is Houston's left tackle from last year. My guess is that they'll all be on the same page, and Daniels can pick up where he left off. And here's where he was in his last six games. This is week 12 through 18, and includes a dud in week 18.

He didn't even play the whole game. 30.4 fantasy points per game and six point. It's really good. And even if you throw out week 18 now, we've got a five game small sample size, but it's 35.6. You could argue he's got the most upside of anybody in fantasy football this year. the most upside of anybody in fantasy football this year. Look, if he hits, he's going to look great as the QB1. I think most people probably draft him as early as QB3 behind in some order of Allen or Jackson Jackson Allen, but I like him ahead of Burrow and Hertz and we'll see if he continues to stay in that range from a draft perspective. Before we take a break, let's answer a couple of questions that you guys have in the chat.

So keep you guys interested in sending those questions, which we appreciate. Frank the Tank wants to know, please grade the trade. He got Keon Coleman for a 2026 late second and a late 2026 fourth round pick. So Keon Coleman for two draft picks next year. Heath, do you like that deal? I think that's okay. I'm not jumping up and down on the table if I think that's okay. Um, I, I'm not jumping up and down on the table if I make that trade, but there's a little bit of chance for Keon Coleman to take a step in his second year. And if he does, he's got Josh Allen as his quarterback and you hope that 2026 second is actually a late second. Somebody paid a top 15 pick for him and you just got him for, what would it be?

Like 18th through 24th next year and a fourth rounder that no one's going to remember? That's a, that's a good deal. That's good shopping. Dave, are you targeting any stacks this year, Kyle wants to know, from the Bengals, Eagles, etc., when you're drafting and redraft, do you make it a priority to stack quarterback, wide receiver, tight end, any of those positions to sort of maximize your point production? No, you know, I don't necessarily love doing that, but I get the appeal for it. I just worry that like if one of those players goes bad, then they both kind of go bad.

And I don't really, I don't really target any stacks per se. Keith, we have a dynasty startup draft on dynasty FFT tomorrow, Friday at 1130 AM Eastern. Husky Huskies wants to know in a dynasty startup super flex tight end premium is Brock Bowers at pick number four is that out of line? I know. No, I was just I had somebody asked me on Twitter yesterday with not, it wasn't tight end premium. And they said, what's, what's the best pick to select in a startup? And for me, it was pretty clearly three. Give me one of Jackson Allen or Daniels, and then I'll take the late

second moving forward, um, in tight end premium Bowers is in contention for that fourth pick. He's a first round pick for me. It's not tight end premium, Bowers is in contention for that fourth pick. He's a first round pick for me. It's not tight end premium. So I, I'm not saying it's definitely the right pick, but it's not out of line at all. It's funny you say pick three, that's the pick I chose in the draft room that you sent out and you said you made a mistake and went back and Dave had already taken pick three in the, uh, in the next version. So I took pick four. So thanks Dave, I appreciate that.

All right, we're gonna take a break when we come back and get into Dave's most targeted players in his drafts. We already mentioned Tucker Kraft. We'll get into the other guys that Dave is looking at so far in the drafts that we've already done in 2025. Oh, this is it. The day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror with your Starbucks coffee.

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The players targeting in his drafts so far and Dave has probably done the most drafts I would assume of all of us based on the only fans drafts that he's doing to build up a nice average draft position for us here at CBS sports.com. So let's show the five players that Dave is looking at. We already mentioned Tucker Kraft is one of them. He's got Jared Goff, Chuba Hubbard, Devante Adams, another tight end and Tyler Warren. And again, Kraft. Dave, do we have to add anything else to Kraft? Or is... No, we're good. We can move on from Kraft. And just to hit on Warren, this is a late round pick in the same vein as Brock Bowers last year, where a lot of people were nervous about

getting a playmaking type of tight end, a physical beast of a tight end on an offense that really wasn't very appealing, big-time questions about the quarterback. And especially in the case of Bowers, everyone looked at him and said, There's no way he's going to have a lot of targets. They've got Devonte Adams on that team. And it turned out that Adams wasn't on the team for very long. And even when he was, Bowers was doing some good things. Bowers turned into a dynamo. Look at where we're drafting Bowers now. I don't think that Warren will be as good as Brock Bowers last year. But he is in that same sort of mold, at least as far as physically. He's not as fast. But it's somebody who I could see getting plenty of target volume and making a lot of numbers after the catch in Indianapolis. Clearly they're going to find ways to feature him as part of the offense. And getting that guy in the double digit rounds, it just seems

to me like you're getting great value there. So whether I get Bowers in round two or Tucker Kraft in round nine, I'm looking at Warren just to as a blue chip player on my bench to start the season. So two questions then Heath, you can follow up as well. Which quarterback do you want to see starting for the Colts the majority of season to maximize Tyler Warren's potential? And then are you taking Tyler Warren over Colston Loveless who is also considered one of the top, what I said you said Loveless is that throwing shade at him? No Loveland excuse me. You know me I butchered names enough. Loveland or Warren which tight You know me, I butt your names enough.

Loveland or Warren, which tight end are you taking first in redraft weeks? You might be calling him Loveless when he goes touchdownless through the first four weeks of the season. Okay, I don't care which quarterback is under center for Indianapolis for Tyler Warren because Tyler Warren isn't going to run a lot of routes 10 yards downfield. So I would hope that whoever Shane Steichen picks to be the quarterback can throw an accurate ball inside of 10 yards and certainly behind the line of scrimmage to Tyler Warren. Second part of your question was what? Which tight end? Rich rookie tight end do you prefer? The Bears guy? Loveless. Loveland. Love forever.

and over loveless, loveland, love forever. Heath, which quarterback do you like for the Colts receivers and which rookie tight end do you prefer? I don't like a quarterback for the Colts wide receivers, but I'll say Anthony Richardson just because he's been bad less and so there's more hope that something could change with him. And I, I think Warren for me is just a dart through after I already have a start, maybe if I took a starting tight end that I don't like, or that I don't like the upside and he's just a floor play, then I'll take Warren. But I don't have much expectation for Warren until they

get the quarterback situation figured out. Yeah. I like Loveland a little bit better than Warren. I do think that the quarterbacks are kind of So similar and somewhat of their profile that Jones just has a better passer will be better, but they're both gonna run I don't think they're gonna necessarily elevate the the the pass catchers there to a certain degree that it's okay This guy is dramatically better than the other one And I'm more so hoping that Richardson working with Josh Allen's quarterback guy from a mechanics perspective and just getting a little bit more experience will help him. But I do agree with Dave, the routes that Warren will run will hopefully be still capable for either quarterback to maintain a level of production for him and maybe even the same

for Pittman and Josh Downs. In the case of Loveland, this is something nitpicking, but the draft capital, Bears had an opportunity to draft either one of these guys. That's the one they chose. And hopefully Ben Johnson track record with tight ends, as we saw with a great rookie tight end performance with, uh, with Laporta that hopefully that helps Loveland as well. So I give a slight edge to Loveland over Warren, but would be happy to drop. So you love him. You love love more. I love love Lind love less love, whoever the titan

for the bears I like better than Tyler Warren. And hopefully I'll get his name right by the time I have to draft him. All right, let's talk about Devante Adams. I know he spent a little bit of time on him yesterday as well, but in terms of overall production, 32 years old 33 in December did not show a significant drop off by any stretch last year, especially once he got to the

Jets with Aaron Rodgers. How good can Devontae Adams be in when you're drafting? I like drafting him in round four, sometimes I get them in round five. That's really when I get excited. I would take them in late one three, but there'd have to be a big mix of other players that go ahead of him before I take him. So because I'm taking Adams ahead of some other players that are going in Round 3, I can usually find him in Round 4. But even last year, you know, weird situation in Vegas, and then he goes to New York, and it takes him a little while to get on the same page with Aaron Rodgers. He's still averaged over 17 PPR points a points. I'm not going to say that he's

going to forever defy Father Time. But I think you brought it up yesterday, Jamie. Like the great ones tend to last a little bit longer and play at a higher level longer than your average and above average NFL players. I think he's still very good at what he does. I think the role that he'll play in LA is going to be something that favors him a lot. I don't think he'll see a lot of double teams. He did in New York. And that led to Garrett Wilson having some games where he got a lot of targets. I still think he's a good player. And so the only reason to not take him is the Graham Gilmore argument. He's too old. And I don't think we should say that about Tomate Ames, because he's been old for the last several seasons and it's been 17.2, 15.6, and then it was 16.3 in 2023, after the Raiders let go of McDaniels. And then two years ago, I don't even know if this matters or if anybody cares, but it was 19.7. And so I think his ceiling is really close to where he was last year, and that's 17 points a game. I'm drafting him hoping that he can get around 16 PPR points per game as a quality target in a great offense. No one's arguing about that in LA, where he should be schemed open quite a bit and be a

red zone threat, kind of like Cooper Cup was last year. And when Cup was healthy, he had a stretch of seven games, even though he wasn't fast, he was still putting up good fantasy numbers. wasn't fast, he was still putting up good fantasy numbers. Heath, what's your projection for Devonte Adams? It's higher than where I have him ranked because I'm discounting him a little bit because of age, but 84 catches, a thousand yards, nine touchdowns on 145 targets. And I think the thing that we brought, it was Heath, by the way, who brought up that, you know, he's not necessarily aging poorly and can still be great based on some of the 32-year-old wide receivers that have been great throughout their, you know, twilight that he's not necessarily aging poorly and can still be great based on some of the 32

old wide receivers that have been great throughout their, the twilight of their careers. I think the thing that's going to be interesting to note, I brought this up in the conversation, he may be the best receiver for the Rams. We're anticipating Pukinakua still being that guy, but Devontae Adams could easily join the Breakfast Club. He could easily be the guy Matthew Stafford leans on. He could easily be still a premier wide receiver and certainly for stretches of the season.

And the other part of this is kind of, you know, Adam brought this up yesterday that before the last three games of the season, which is kind of, I think, what everybody's attaching Cooper Cup to, Cup, when he was healthy, was still being a very productive fantasy wide receiver, NFL wide receiver.

Sean McVay is going to have a lot of fun scheming these guys open and that they don't nearly need help doing on their own or that they can get it done on their own. You know, so the combination of McVeigh and Stafford with Adams in an offense that's going to be, I expect having a lot of targets funneled in their direction. And yes, Tyler Higbee and Terrence Ferguson are going to get their chances. And, you know, Tutu Atwell, who, you know, Sean McVeigh did sort of say he didn't give enough opportunities to, and they gave him, I think a bigger contract than many people expected one

year, $10 million. Um, he'll get some chances too, but it'd be shocking if it's, what would you say Heath, less than one 20 for both of those guys and Pooka and Adams that they're healthy one 30, one 50, like where's the number end? If they're both healthy all year long and Stafford's there, I think it would be shocking if they don't both have 130 targets. Yeah. I think 130, I've got them both projected for at least 145.

Um, take one target per game off that. And it'd be pretty surprising if, if you saw Devante Adams at 125 targets next year, how many cats do you have? 84. So not even a 60% catch rate. I not sure that he had a 60% catch rate last year. Did he? Um, I'll go look. He's getting a quarterback upgrade though.

It was a 59% last year. He was at 59% in 2023. He was at 60%. Okay. Yeah. 55% in 2022. Maybe it goes up a little bit. It's going to be interesting. You know, I think Adams is going to end up being as he was last year. You know, very good value pick for someone that can go maybe round four, probably round three could produce like a top two round player. And again, as I was, I was about to say, like Pooka missed a lot of time last year too, you know, so if he gets hurt and easily Adams becomes that go to guy, it could be a fantastic year, even

at age 32 for Devante Adams. Chuba Hubbard, Dave is someone we've talked a lot about on this show as well, not in the last couple of weeks. Um, how excited are you for him knowing that there is no Jonathan Brooks, but there is now Rico Dowdell, there is Trevor Etienne, there is a better Bryce Young, he's coming off an amazing season, like just your take on Chuba and when you plan to draft him. He's someone I'm looking for in round three if I need a running back, otherwise round four, no matter what. Sometimes I have a tough time picking between Chuba and Devante when they're both on the board and really it'll come down to

what I think will be available with my next pick in terms of running backs and wide receivers and usually Another running back that I'm taking a lot of is James Connor. Usually I'll take Adams over Chuba Knowing that I can get James Connor in the next round. I like Connor a lot too. I nearly put him on this list I look at Dowdell and Trevor Etienne as mild factors. I'm not worried about either one of them taking Chubb off the field. I think he's earned it. I think he was a really good running back last year. Panthers clearly agree. They gave him a nice big contract. That offensive line got better last year. So I think they'll be more cohesive and be better in 2025. You said it, Bryce Young definitely got better toward the end of last year. I'm sure they're hoping to build on that. They added Tech McMillan, so it's going to be a little bit harder for defenses to stack

the box against Chuba Hubbard. And last year, he averaged over 16 fantasy points per game in PPR. He had at least 14 touches in 13 of 15 games. He had at least 15 PPR points in 9 of 15 games. I think he's just like a good, solid running back that people don't necessarily give credit for. But when it comes to fantasy points, he delivered last year. We've seen a spurt before in his career when he's done it. But really, all I'm looking at is the opportunity that he's got now, meshing it with the opportunity and the talent that we saw last year. I'm sure he's going to lose some work to Dowdell and ETN, but I don't think it's going to be enough. that makes his numbers crater the the round three running backs at least that what we've seen is Bucky Irving Jonathan Taylor James Cook

You're taking him ahead of any of those guys. No, no, no Um, I can double-check on cook, but I don't think so Oh, no. Um, I can double check on cook, but I don't think so. I've got him ahead of closer to the round four, round five range. Now I've got cook one spot ahead of Chuba. I'm taking Chuba ahead of Camara, taking him out of Kenneth Walker. Uh, like I said, Connor, Bruce Hall, Montgomery, he's kind of the first of the last best RB twos. And I've got him right in the same range as the guy I talked about DeAndre Swift.

The difference being you can wait longer to take Swift. Chuba is probably a little bit safer than Swift. Um, but I think they both could be top 12 running backs if things go right. As they were, well, at least as Chuba was last year, I just can't take him in round three, I think round four is, is a good spot if you're looking for You know the the range of guys that you listed. I think he's I would take Walker over him I think he's closer to the Camaro Hall I would I would take him out of Swift but you know that that group of guys Connor, you know

Where the rookies start to come into play? I just get a little bit concerned about you know, and and I don't disagree that they're kind of just guys at this point, Rico Dowdle and Trevor Etienne, but if he loses some of the passing downs work, Etienne could come in and be a factor early in his career. And if Dowdle takes a few opportunities away, like he just didn't have that last year. I know Miles Sanders was taking some chances away, but I think this group of players, because Brooks didn't really get an opportunity, like this backfield got a little bit deeper. And so just how much of 10% of the work, 15% of the work goes to those other guys, and does Hubbard just lose a little bit to knock him down a peg or two?

And is he really that talented? I think he's a good player, I just don't know if he's a great player. And so that's, I think, what we'll find out. The situation last year really improved, because whether it was the combination of Dalton and the better Bryce Young at the end of the season The offensive line certainly took a step forward the play calling I think took a step forward with canalist So it's a good situation for him for sure But taking a little bit of work away see how talented he is

It just makes me a little bit concerned but still round four for me is a great spot to To target him so Jared Goff Dave is a quarterback coming off a great season last year. Now loses another offensive lineman. Now loses his offense coordinator. Gaines, I don't know if you want to say Gaines, a weapon in Tesla, but they did draft a rookie wide receiver, but in any event has his cast of characters back. How good can Jared Goff be and are you drafting him as the number one quarterback?

He's good enough to where when you see him in round 12 you go, what the hell is this guy doing in round 12? He's good enough to where when you see him in round 12, you go, what the hell is this guy doing in round 12? He's better than round 12. I'll take them. And so this is much more of a value play rather than me planning a flag saying Jared golf is going to be a top five fantasy quarterback again. I think it's in his profile, but I think it's much more reasonable to draft him

as one of these 20 to 22 point-per-game quarterbacks and 6-point. I don't, I don't see the Lions running as much as they did last year. I think they're going to throw a little bit more. And I do worry a little bit about Ragnau not being there at center. Not enough to make me downgrade golf anymore, but he just keeps slipping in drafts. He's not a sexy pick. People are taking Caleb Williams over him in, in our ADP. C.J. Stroud's going ahead of him. Brock Purdy's going ahead of him. I understand that. He's exactly in that same boat. Justin Fields is going ahead of him. I agree with that because I think Fields has a little bit more upside than Goff because of his rushing. But I think Goff is still capable of being a fantasy starter. And round 12 is just too late for a guy who played well last year and probably played over his skis, but also has just an outstanding receiving core to throw to. And

like you said, that hasn't changed. And I don't think the playbook is going to be, you know, dumbed down to what you'd see in a Pee-wee league. And Johnny Morton's going to stink at calling plays. I think he, I think he's capable of doing what he's doing. I don't know if he's as good as Ben Johnson or as creative as Ben Johnson, but I think that we can still see Jared Goff be effective as a week in, week out starter. The price tag of round 12 is egregious. Jeff Sarris – Keith, would you rather take one of the high upside quarterbacks like A. Justin Fields, a Caleb Williams, a Drake May? And I say high upside because again, you know, there's expectations for these guys,

but they haven't necessarily done it. In some cases by comparison to Jared Goff or do you settle for a Jared Goff and then take the high upside quarterback later? Like how do you approach taking somebody like Goff who's got a good floor, but may not hit to like an Anthony Richardson, even if that ever comes to fruition? I think that conversation is changing as there are a couple of cracks show up in the floor for Jared Goff. You kind of have to just dismiss the Ben Johnson concerns or the Ragnau concerns or the immense amount of regression that's likely coming for Goff concerns.

And I'm finding it harder to do that. So I would definitely take fields over him. And I think there's a group of guys that are going to have a really good opportunity to move ahead of him in July. If we get some positive reports about Caleb Williams, taking a step forward, for me, if Anthony Richardson wins the week one job, um, if Kyler Murray gets a little bit more buzz, I could definitely see taking Kyler Murray ahead of him.

Um, so there's, there's a few guys that I could see. Gough's my QB 12 right now. I, I don't have him ranked in round 12. So I guess I agree with Dave that that's too late, but I also don't often find myself taking him just because of that reason he falls to round 12. It's like, you know, he just had a by far the most efficient season of his career and finished QB seven, um, it per game. What's regression going to look like? The thing that, you know, it's not necessarily tearing quarterbacks, it's more like just grouping quarterbacks. And so I feel like

if fields hits can be better than golf. like if Fields hits can be better than golf. If Caleb Williams hits can be better than golf. If Kyler Murray hits better than golf. Drake May if he hits. Richardson if he hits. And then golf is kind of like okay I'll pair him with one of those guys with Brock Pardee, with Tua. You know again it's a sliding scale but you know with Tua, with Stafford. You know with these guys that you kind of just know what you're getting, which is very good production. You know, can easily be top 7, can easily be top 10, you know, but it feels like if

they slip a little bit, like 2A's points per game, you know, forget about the total games, 2A's points per game went from like, I forget it was like 20 or 21 points per game, 22 points per game at most in 2023 when he led the NFL in passing arts. Keep that stat in your head. And then last year was right around 19 points per game. So slipped a couple of points, but still the floor is fine. Like you could still win your fantasy weeks with that. It's not going to dominate your opponent. You're going to struggle a little bit more clearly, but fields could be 25 points per game. Richardson could be 25 points per game. Like you know, you're wanting the next Jane Daniels.

You're wanting that guy's going to get to the 30 points at the end of the season. The Jordan Love finish at the end of 2023. Like that's at least the way I drafted that position. Like that's the way I want it to be as opposed to like, OK, golf's going to be that steady 21, 22. It's great. But can he consistently get to that north of 25 if everything goes right? And it feels like everything just has to go right because he doesn't run.

Jim Collison Well, are we discounting that Jared Goff can get to 25 points per game? James West Yes. Jim Collison He did it for him before on last year. He was at 25.5. So a little bit of a slow start, but he got there for the majority of the year. I'm not drafting him to do that again. I would love to take golf and any of the quarterbacks you just named, Jamie, and have a duo. And that way I feel like I've got, I've got one guy that might overperform and one guy that might underperform and you just take it week by week. It's very interesting to talk about these guys after the top six quarterbacks, you know, where Baker comes in, where Bo Nix comes in, you know, some, you know, Nix is another guy. So I don't want

to spend too much time on my list. I want to answer some of the questions there. So let's just show you the top five guys for me real quick. And we've talked about a bunch of them already. T Higgins, we spent some time on yesterday, so I don't need to get into that. Courtland Sutton for me is, you know, somebody that similar to Jerry Judy just falls to a spot where I feel like it's just too easy to draft him and the touchdowns 18 over the last two years with Sean Payton, I think Nix who again should take a step forward. So excited to draft him at his spot. The two running backs that are listed here in Jordan Mason and Isaac Garando, they're

going to need an injury to become consistent fantasy starters. Obviously more so for Garando than Mason because I think Mason's going to have a role for the Vikings. But these are two guys that just end up in such great spots on draft day, at least the drafts that we've done so far that they're easy to take and throw Zach Sharboney into that mix, throw Tai-Jay Spears. Those are other guys that just don't want to list all the running backs that I tend to draft in those spots. But, you know, high end guys that could be league winners if injury ever occurs.

And, you know the situations for some of them like Spears I don't think we spent a lot of time talking about how he was productive with Tony Pollard in the one game that Pollard missed he was you know north of 13 and a half PPR points per game and a couple games around that stretch where he was over 17 so it could still be very good in tandem with Pollard but Mason Garando, Charbonneau, Spears those are four guys that anywhere between round eight and round ten, you know, easy guys to sort of put on your bench.

And I do think Bo Nix is sort of ahead of the quarterbacks that we talked about. I don't know where you guys come out on Nix versus Goff. I like Nix's potential ceiling a little bit better, but again, can easily pair those two guys. If you expect Nix to regress a little bit because of a better run game, then maybe we see, you know, Goff and Nix in that 22-point-per- a better run game, then maybe we see you know, golf and next in that 22 point per game range and I'm fine with you know, pairing those two guys but you know, five guys that I've been drafting a lot of again, we don't need to spend too much time on these guys you've heard enough about them.

So let's get to some of your questions for you wrap this up. Let's see here who have we not gotten to yet. Reese wants to know of the former round one NFL draft picks, which has the most upside for 2025 of, uh, is that Devante Smith? I guess Devante Smith, Jerry Judy's a flowers or Calvin Ridley. So Heath of that group, uh, is Judy your favorite to draft? So I would say Judy has the most upside without an injury to somebody else on his own team. Smith has the most upside if you're factoring in the possibility of an injury. Dave, you agree?

Totally agree. Okay. So Judy's the one you should probably look at first and look, well, hopefully Ridley benefits with cam ward in Ridley's games last year when it was not will Levis. He went from around 11 PPR points per game for the season to over 14 PPR points per game. The game started by Mason Rudolph. So hopefully Cam Ward is just as good as Mason Rudolph and we'll see great production from Ridley this year. Jamie, Todd Malkin talked up Zay Flowers this week and said that they need to get the ball in his hands more.

Right, Adam brought that up yesterday. You idiot, why didn't you do that last year, the year before? And then the second question is, how can you do that when you just added DeAndre Hopkins and you still have the two good tight ends and oh yeah, Derek Henry's there? I feel like that's one of those things I need to see before I believe. We are again, you know, very similar to the Brandon Ayuk ADP. We are going to be lower on where Zay Flowers gets drafted versus his ADP because I think we see some of the pitfalls of his fantasy profile versus his NFL profile. He could be great. I just don't know if his fantasy production will ever get there in the offense that he plays.

Kyle wants to know for redraft Trevion Henderson or Amarion Hampton, who has the better year? Your thoughts, Heath Cummings. For redraft, I will say that it is format dependent and full PPR. Henderson's going to be better this year in my opinion, and half and non PPR. I'll take Hampton. Pains me to say this, but it's, it's Hampton for me, uh, in all formats, even full PPR. I love Henderson's talent. Really don't like where he landed. Really expect the Patriots to use multiple

running backs. And I expect the Chargers to as well. I just figure that the Chargers will eventually get the hint at some point that Hampton's better than Najee Harris. I will take Henderson over Hampton, but it's close. I just think in PPR, you're going to get more receptions for Henderson, and he's competing with Ramandre Stevenson, who's got a fumble history. Naji Harris does not. And I think the coaching staff will keep him on the field a little bit too much in terms of Naji by comparison to using what hopefully will be a better talent in Hampton. Top tier wants to know ideal round to target a tight end

not named Bowers in PPR. So Dave for you, would that be Kraft in round nine? Yeah, I would look at those tight ends starting in that round nine plus range. I think the Joku's ADP, it depends on where you look, but it could be further than that. I would say Njoku over Kraft over Warren in a heartbeat. But I like a lot of the tight ends that you can get late on draft day. So I'm not reaching for any of the big three tight ends. That's Bowers, that's McBride, that's Kittle. Don't want to

reach for them. If I can steal them, I will. But otherwise I will wait toward the later rounds and get one or two tight ends. McBride falls to round three on occasion. And I love that when that happens, I take him. Kittle falls to round four on occasion. I love that. And I take him. I still take Laporta in round six when he's there. I think Najjoku in a similar range is worth taking, you know, round six, round seven, you can probably wait a little bit to get him.

Cause I think people don't necessarily draft him as early as they've I've seen that certainly in the best ball drafts that I've done where he falls to like round 10, which is a little crazy. Um, so those are easy tight ends to target for me. Uh, and I would take McBride and Bowers in round two. And I like McBride slightly better than Bowers just with the offense. Uh, the changes that are coming a little bit for, uh, Las Vegas and still 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, me and I would take McBride and Bowers in round two and I like McBride slightly better than Bowers just with the offense. The changes that are coming a little bit for Las Vegas.

Amstel54 wants to know, Jaden Higgins sealing Heath. So what do you think about the Houston rookie in a receiving court that features Nikko Collins and also added Christian Kirk? I've talked to a lot of people over the last month on the dynasty show that are more excited about Higgins than I was. So I think, um, in fact, a lot of Nico Collins comps from multiple people. I think, I think reasonably the ceiling for redraft this year is a wide receiver three. And I would say the ceiling for dynasty is that he becomes a Dynasty-wide receiver too. Dave? Yeah, I don't think it's that high for redraft for Higgins because it's not just Nico he's

sharing with, it's Christian Kirk and Joe Mixon's going to run the ball a lot too. I think they take it easy with Higgins. I agree with those concepts. I really like Higgins as a player. I just don't like that he's on a team with a No. 1 receiver who's pretty young and really good in Nick O'Collins. I've avoided him in Dynasty. Maybe he becomes a No. 2 wide receiver a couple of times over his career. But I just, I'm very worried about him having huge numbers as the No. 2 receiver in Houston. huge numbers as the number two receiver in Houston. Uh, Gazi wants to know what are your thoughts on DK Metcalfe?

Dave, haven't seen too many people talking about him. So let's go with the assumption Aaron Rodgers does sign there. What do you think DK Metcalfe does? Yeah, I think he'll be the most targeted wide receiver in Pittsburgh. I don't know if that even means 120 targets when it's all said and done. Probably production like we're used to seeing from him in Seattle, where he underwhelms his under 15 PPR points per game, has a couple of big spike weeks, otherwise not that great of a receiver for fantasy. Probably going to get drafted as a low end number two wide receiver and finish

the year right on the wide receiver two, three fence. Yeah. Right on the wide receiver two, three fence. Hey, yeah. Right on the wide receiver two, three fence, I think is a perfect way of putting it. I would rather draft Jerry Judy to kind of tie it together with the earlier in the show. Okay. Uh, Adam has talked a lot about this. We'll see if it happens, but Rogers Uber targeting his number one receiver.

And right now it looks like DK Metcalfe barring maybe a John Smith trade will be, uh, easily the number one target for the Steelers. So we'll see what happens there and hopefully we'll have a Roger decision sooner rather than later. All right, three more questions. Let's just do one each per person answering it. So Heath, I'll come to you first on this one or come to you on this one. Evan Ingram in Denver, how does he rank in the tight end draft list?

I have never considered drafting Evan Ingram so far this summer. A lot of other people are more excited about him. So if you want to be one of those people, you should ask someone besides Heath. But this has not been a player who's done anything besides, he's like the Deontay Johnson of tight ends. He earns a lot of targets and he does not turn those into fantasy points. And I don't think another year older coming off of an injury in a Denver Broncos offense that has not thrown to their tight ends hardly at all because they throw to their running backs more than everybody else. I don't think Evan Ingram is a difference

maker. Dave, you did want to jump in. So I mean, I'd like you, you only want one person to answer. So I'm trying to respect the rules. Very good. Go ahead. Awesome. This is another tight end that I'd look to have as a late round pick because half of the people in every league are going to think like Heath and that Evan Ingram might not get great volume because other tight ends who have absolutely sucked in Denver didn't get good volume.

I think Evan Ingram will get good volume. I think that he can average around nine and a half to 10 PPR points per game. That's not bad for a tight end. I don't think he's going to do anything like he did. Remember that stretch in 2023 when Jacksonville had nobody. So they just gave him 11 targets per game and he was awesome. He's not going to do that, but he's a late round pick at tight end. He's someone that I would consider as a starter in week one. I do like him better than the rookies. I like him better than craft. For example, I do

think it's a good opportunity for him and for what it's worth is Year ones with a new team have been good Giants his rookie season Jacksonville his year one there I do think this this move was a smart one for Denver because he still can get you to 1011 PPR points per game, which is kind of what he did in Jacksonville So I'm relatively confident and based on his value. So I do like the situation for a bring him All right, Dave with the Detroit regression. Are you still confident? This is from dune 3 3 3 2 2 I'm relatively confident and based on his value. So I do like the situation for Brangham. Alright, Dave, with the Detroit regression, are you still confident, this is from Dune, 3-3, 3-2-2, are you still confident in Ammar, St. Brown and Jameer Gibbs in Round 1?

Yes, because I think that those are the two easiest guys to spam the ball to in that offense. We've seen it now with St. Brown under multiple coordinators, I'll add, just getting a bevy of targets and doing a lot of good things with them. And they're easier targets. They're not as complex as someone like Jameson, for example, who's going to be partially a downfield target or he works the intermediate area on a double move. I think it's just going to be easier for Goff to get the ball out of his hands quicker when it comes to St. Brown, when it comes to Gibbs. And Laporta kind of fits in that range too, which is why when you said Laporta in round six, somebody that you like to get, I agree wholeheartedly, that's good value.

I think the one thing about St. Brown, I said this with the magazine story I wrote, which was trying to figure out who's the number one receiver last year, because we had a lot of questions, whether it was ZD Lam or Tyree Kill or Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. I wrote about seven guys and talked to a bunch of different people about them. St. Brown just felt like the safest of the group just because you kind of knew what you were getting, no quarterback issues. There's a little bit, again, some questions with the coordinator change and maybe the offensive line concerns you with Detroit, but he just feels just safe. And so when you get to the neighbors, Brian Thomas, Nico Collins, you know range the the five through or four

through you know Pooka Nikula range four through ten he just again feels safe like you kind of just know what you're getting like the upside may not be there even though he's been you know top five may not be a wide receiver one touchdowns are certainly gonna you know I think sway where he finishes but just feel safe at the back end of the first round all right last question and it's for Heath specifically from the fantasy football show and we appreciate his comment at the end of the question, which is hit that like button people so hopefully you did. Heath, true or true, Travis Hunter is a wide receiver one.

Smitty loves Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter, I don't believe it will be a wide receiver one in 2025, but Travis Hunter is a wide receiver one in my dynasty rankings and I anticipate multiple wide receiver one seasons from Travis Hunter in the future. So you did make your pick in the baked burger. You traded, you had two picks in the first round, picked nine overall and 10 overall. Nine was the trade for DeAndre Swift. 10th you took?

I took Matthew Golding. I actually had traded 10. You kept nine. Yeah. I took Matthew Golden. I actually had 10. You kept nine. Yeah. I had three picks in the first round. I took Trevion Henderson. All right. With the fifth pick, I took Matthew Golden with the ninth pick and I

traded the 10th pick for the Swift package. And now I'm seeing if maybe I can get back up into the top 14 because I'd like to get one more good player. All right. So we'll see if the wheeling. You had your shot at the big player. I, uh, to try and trade back in when you're not like to get one more good player. All right. So we'll see if the wheeling, you had your shot at the big player. I, uh, to try and trade back in when you're not guaranteed to get back in. Because I, I think I thought the Andre Swift was basically a

throw in for almost free. Okay. Good luck. It'd be interesting to see how this goes throughout the course of the, uh, the season, the, uh, the Andre Swift conversation and how much it helped or hurt Heath Cummings in the baked burger dynasty. All right.

We miss our buddy Adam Ager. He'll be back next week. We'll be back next week with four shows as well. Check out FFT dynasty tomorrow, 1130 AM Eastern, where we'll be doing what's the version super flex super flex tight end premium super flex tight end premium startup dynasty draft. So check that out. We'll be drafting with Heath as well. Dave stole my spot

in the first round so he's got the third pick I got the fourth pick Heath what pick did you take? I took a 12th I always draft on one of the ends when I'm hosting a show so it's not as difficult and I usually take one I thought I'd take 12 in this one. All right so you got 12 I have four Dave has three and we'll have some fun with that draft tomorrow thanks everybody for listening and watching watching we're gonna go do FFT express right now with uh talking about some average and we'll have some fun with that draft tomorrow. Thanks everybody for listening and watching. We're gonna go do FFT Express right now with talking about some average draft positions. So check that out also.

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