Fantasy Football Today - 2022 NFL Draft Full Recap: Winners & Losers For All 7 Rounds + Day 3 Superlatives (Pick Six NFL Podcast)

Episode Date: May 1, 2022

Download and follow the Pick Six NFL Podcast! You can find Pick Six on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else podcasts are found. Will Brinson, John Breech, Chris Trapasso and Josh Edwards recap Day 3 of the 2022 NFL Draft as well as the entirety of the event. First, the guys share their biggest takeaways from the draft in Vegas, before diving into Day 3 Superlatives (6:30) focusing on the best QB, best undrafted player and more. Next, Brinson, Breech, Trapasso and Edwards dish out their biggest winners (36:30) and losers (1:08:00) for the full draft.  Get 20% off Pick Six Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/pick-six?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=pick-six-collection 'Pick Six' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts.  You can listen to Pick Six on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Pick Six NFL podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Pick Six NFL podcast." Follow the Pick Six team on Twitter: @picksixpod, @willbrinson, @ryanwilsonCBS, @johnbreech, @E_DeBerardinis Visit the Pick Six YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/picksix Check out the Pick Six Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/picksixpod/?hl=en Read the Pick Six newsletter here: https://www.cbssports.com/newsletters/picksix/ Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/758548147935545/ For more NFL coverage from CBS Sports, visit https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/ To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast. This is Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinson. I'm your host. It is Saturday, April 30th. If you are watching the podcast on YouTube, we are live following the conclusion of the 2022 NFL draft each and every year. I'm astounded at how late it is and how long they draft for on Saturday. And look, they're all important picks. This is when Tom Brady wasn't, I guess he was technically because they used to say that he used to do back in the day, back in my day,

the first round of the NFL draft would start at 3 p.m. on Saturday. Just pure insanity. The NFL let that much money slide away. Anyway, if you're listening to the podcast, there's a pretty decent chance it is either later on Saturday or Sunday or even Monday. Because if Debo sends me a text, he's like, why aren't you on StreamYard to record the podcast for Monday?

I ain't showing up. I ain't about that life. I'm just kidding. I will show up, obviously. Anywho, joining me to break down what was a certainly bizarre draft and certainly a different draft. John Breach, Chris Trapasso, Josh Edwards. What's up, fellas? Well, I didn't think I was being invited back.

And then apparently this turned out to be a banner year for punters. So here I am to help these guys evaluate the entire draft. I'm going to defer to our true draft gurus who busted their butt over the past few days, past few weeks, past few months, Josh and Chris. Dude,

I'm just so excited that the bills drafted Matt Arisa and he was like the fifth specialist taken. And we have breach on this podcast. I just want to sit back and hear all of his analysis for all the specialists that went, especially Arisa going to the bills in the sixth round. We just lost about half of the viewership just previewing that coming up. We're going to talk Bills and punters in this podcast.

Well, that's okay because you know what? The YouTube chat, and if you were in the YouTube chat, if you're just watching on YouTube, phone, iPad, TV, whatever it is, hit the Like button. We'll probably try and give away some – I don't think we have any Brinson Sucks hats, but we'll give away a Paramount Plus gift card maybe if we we get enough likes and, uh, perhaps some glassware, a little, uh, pick six podcast pint glass. They're actually talking about a totally different podcast in the chat right now.

They're talking about a, like a rival NFL podcast. I would be mad about it, but they're mostly talking about, um, Mark Sessler. Who's one of my, I consider like a good friend of the business and a delightful human being in general. Uh, I have some good Mark Sessler, who's one of my, I consider like a good friend of the business and a delightful human being in general. I have some good Mark Sessler stories from owners meetings and various NFL events, but we're not going to tell those now because we have to break down the draft. Shout out to Sess. Great dude. All those guys are great. What?

Nothing. I said what a tease. I'm not going to... You can't say you have great stories and not tell any stories. Well, I have to get those stories approved. Anywho, what did we... We're going to get into the meat and potatoes

of the fourth through seventh rounds, and then we're going to give winners and losers for the full draft. But I sort of want to, sort of an open-ended question. You can go whichever way you want. And we're going to breach traps, Josh. But, like, what's the one thing when you come out of this draft that you, like, what's the one thing that you're going to remember of this draft that you like, like what's the, like, what's, what's the one thing that's like, you're going to remember about this draft?

Uh, besides the guy announcing the Vikings pick getting pulled off the stage. That's it. That could be it. That's a good answer. Um, that I just thought that was hilarious. Cause you literally, that the draft turned into the Academy awards. You just don't see that at the NFL draft. Uh, you know brinton i know

you were mentioning yesterday how one of the things that took away from the excitement of this draft is that most people don't know the average fan probably doesn't know most of the players after the first round which usually you know they're second rounders third rounders that you know but there just weren't a lot of big names here uh outside of the quarterbacks who dropped uh in the third round and somehow in the fifth round so uh in that sense it does seem like hey god bless anyone that sat through all seven rounds of this draft you did a good job um but you know what it was in vegas i just like the ongoing entertainment whether it was the blue man group whether it was the Blue Man Group, whether it was Chris Angel. It was nice to have these things sporadically cut in, and it kept the draft lively, which is nice when you have to sit

in front of a TV and watch it for 15 straight hours. My biggest takeaway is that the most valuable position in sports quarterback was seemingly devalued in this draft. And back to Breach to breach specialists we had five specialists taking a bunch of the fourth round like i mentioned earlier matt oriza going to the bills in the top of the sixth we even had a punter from brinson's nc state trent gill yeah to get him picked late and it was like that's to me what i'll always take from this is that we were like last night waiting and waiting when are these quarterbacks going to go where's Malik Willis where's Sam Howell uh where's Matt

Corral and meanwhile all these punters on day three and kickers ultimately were selected I was watching it on ESPN and it was funny that I mean I kind of knew that it was a better specialist class but Mel Kuyper said that if Trent Gill was in any other draft class he probably would have have been the shoe in to be the first punter off the board uh but it didn't happen in this draft class because it was a really strong specialist group which was just kind of funny to me and i don't want to be disrespectful to breach but one of the lesser valuable positions on the football field and quarterback got pushed down we only had like six or seven ultimately picked you don't have to talk to me by saying trent gill would have been the best the top punter i mean like got pushed down, we only had like six or seven ultimately picked. You don't have to suck up to me by saying Trenton Gill would have been the best

top punter. I mean, again, sucking up on this podcast gets you nothing. No, that's what Kuyper said. Kuyper said that he would have been the best if he was in any other class, but it was a bad quarterback class and a loaded specialist class. You're saying they'd always cheat on me in the comments.

What is happening? I know what it means. It's hilarious. Are they talking about watching, like, listening to different podcasts? I mean, whatever. I don't care. Listen. Listen to whatever podcast you want. ATN's a great podcast. I listened to it earlier this week. I mean, granted, they don't have

a round two and three recap, and they ain't going live right now, and you won't hear from them until monday afternoon because rosenthal doesn't like to work tell him i said that greg and i had a bit where we were we would slander each other so darren smith who is a podcast listener and a good buddy of mine that does this uh say to you here radio show and we did this bit for like a year where we would greg i would come on on mondays and greg would come on tuesdays and it was like we would fire like aggressive shots across the ballot each

other but we didn't mean them and i'm not sure if like the listeners ever actually got like they thought that like like death beef in the in the media um anyway yes feel free to treat feel free to tweet at greg Rosenthal and say, at what Brinson says you don't work hard enough to do a full draft recap podcast. If you want. Anywho, I don't know what we're talking about. My big Josh, your big takeaway. Yeah. I think it was just an interesting year as a whole. We had a lot more older prospects than we typically do

because the COVID year that many of these players were allowed. We saw a lot of teams use different strategies through the course of the three days where some of them traded out to get additional picks next year. Some of them were more inclined to take specialists. I mean, I'm sure we will discuss the run on specialists, but we typically do not see that throughout the course of the draft. And I think teams were more willing to do that because there were more, there was more uncertainty in this year's class. I think it was kind of watered down as we got towards the end of the events and teams were more willing to say, Hey, you know, this guy may not be on the able to develop into an every down player, but he's a guy that's going to start for us and potentially fill a long role for a long time.

So I think it was just interesting to see the way that these teams attack this draft class, knowing that maybe it was a little weaker towards the bottom. Yeah, I guess I, and there's a couple of different things I always think about this draft for me. Well, I mean, to Trayvon Walker stuff and just the the pure uh you know the three-week just straight to the freaking vein sweat of of having a gigantic number one overall bet uh and not not ever knowing until like really 45 minutes before the draft who was going number one overall it reminds me a lot of 2013 in that sense um man i was covering the 2009 draft for fan house but i was in pennsylvania doing showing your age brinson i know i was doing a 2009 i was interviewing the

brothers for gatorade um and eli no payton and eli wow at this in pencil in like in bomb f pennsylvania but i just i mean i don't know like i i think we will i will be curious to see where this draft lands five years from now because i think there is a real chance of traps you said this last night like we've been crapping on this draft for you know weeks and months but But there are some potentially legitimate elite players in this draft if things work out the way that they could. Like Evan Neal is a monster. I think Kayvon Timido could be a monster. The Giants could have a great draft.

Derek Stingley, Ikea Kwanu. We could look back at it as the Panthers flipped around that franchise because they drafted the local guy at left tackle, and he changed how their protection works. I mean, Trayvon Walker could be a beast. Jordan Davis could be a beast. Anywho, I think I'll look back on this draft

and think about how it was just so muddled, more so than any other draft I've ever covered, in terms of knowing where guys might go. Like, Sam Howell was a top-ten pick a year ago, and he went with the first pick in the fifth round. Anywho, let's get to some third-day superlatives as soon as I clear out our boss, Eric K., yammering on about the Miami of Ohio Redhawks.

Like, anybody cares about that MAAC team? That's insulting, Brenton. He was just pointing out a very true fact that more Miami of Ohio Redhawks got drafted than Texas Longhorns. Suck it, Texas. How many Redhawks? One, two.

Ah, so more NC State players than Redhawks. Let's go, baby. Oh, ironically, because a punter. NC State's a power five school. Of course they should have more players drafted than Miami of Ohio. All our guys came back to play this year, though, except for Icky and Bam. Bam Knight, by the way, Dynasty Sleeper

with the Jets. Zone running scheme familiar. Bad depth chart in terms of Michael Carter and Tevin Coleman. Great return specialist. We'll get time on and Tevin Coleman, great return specialist. We'll get time on the field. Day three superlatives. Breach and I don't even have these

because we don't know the names of these guys for the most part. So we will start with you, Josh. The best individual pick of day three, rounds four through seven, is... Zach Tom, the offensive lineman from Wake Forest going to the Green Bay Packers. They are a team that values versatile offensive linemen. He's a very athletic player. So I'm intrigued by the opportunity for him to go play in Green Bay for a wide zone blocking scheme that is going to allow him to use his athleticism in space. This is a team that historically likes to find their offensive linemen on day three. So you're walking into an opportunity where they are going to give him a

fair chance to earn a valuable role on that offensive line. So I think it's a great opportunity for him. And I think it's a great pick for the Green Bay Packers because I had him as a much higher value. Zach Tom is first ballot Hall of Fame double first name there's also a zachary thomas in this class so that's that could have been and they're both offensive linemen so it could have been very confusing like zach tom is very cool sounds more like a uh like a like a folk uh you know bassist baby you know something in that regard yeah i mean zach tom yeah like i mean toms i've heard like david toms do you know anybody whose last name is tom i didn't until just now

zach tom that sounds made up yeah uh traps and i'm not dogging on Zach Tom. I'm thinking about what's a better... Is there a better two first name full name than Zach Tom? Like in the whole world? Yeah. I mean, yeah.

My stepfather-in-law thought for a long... He basically thought for a long time that my name was Brinson Brinson. What's your first name? Or what's your last name? I was like, Brinson. He was like, your name is Brinson Brinson. That is weird.

My name is Will. Travis, what you got for... Ryan Wilson is actually a good double first name too. Elton John. Elton's not that common. John as the last name is as crazy as Tom as the last name. Yeah, but Zach is way more common

than Elton. I'm talking about the last name. I'm talking about the combo. Chris Paul. It's got to be oh nice work josh tom all right traps what do you have for uh for uh your best pick frank vincent's good too what do you got for uh your best third day pick ravens cornerback jalen armorour-Davis from Alabama. Now, he's interesting in that he was a big recruit, obviously, at Alabama, was in the same high school class and just a little bit below,

like Asante Samuel Jr., Patrick Sertan, Tyson Campbell, who were all early picks last year, first and second rounders, respectively. And he was a one-year starter for the Crimson Tide, and I thought his film was awesome. Like his traits in 2021 that he showed, the speed down the football field, being able to mirror, stay with routes at the intermediate level or on vertical routes. He had three interceptions.

I was watching him. I was like, is this a first or a second round corner? They get him on day three. And he kind of fits the mold of what Baltimore wants to do. They're going to blitz a lot and play a lot of press man coverage on the outside. He's a little bit of an enigma because he did not play multiple seasons as a full time starter. Most of the Alabama corners come in with multiple seasons producing and just getting a lot of experience. So he doesn't have that. that's probably why he fell but in terms of pure talent and then what he did show in the one season uh in nick saban's defense

i think it's just a perfect transition for him to go from that scheme to the baltimore ravens in the fourth round all right i dig it breach what do you think about those two picks specifically what you know we talked about their athletic traits and how they fit into the schemes what do you think? Well, I think that Aaron Rodgers is probably pretty happy that he has Zach Tom as a teammate. And I think that I'm going to trust that the Ravens made a smart pick because they made a bunch of smart picks, which I'll talk about later.

Foreshadowing. See, that right there, Breach, is elite day three draft show show content yes where that was good you're all you're on the set and whoever the host is throws to you and you have no effing idea who the draft is gonna be ready to go i've never heard of this guy i've never heard of that school i don't know what position he plays and And you're like, here's the thing. He's a receiver, right? You're like, you look at his 40 time, it's like 4'7". He's not a speed guy.

This is someone who loves to be a contested catch guy, high point the ball. And of course, when you look at this draft class and that depth chart, it totally makes sense that this, and that's just got to do. How about the fact that we had Colby Bryant, that this, and that's just got to do. You got to kind of. How about the fact that we had Colby Bryant, Isaiah Thomas,

and Chris Paul all drafted on day three. And nearly had a, we were talking about this last night. Anyway. Yeah, no, it's crazy. It's that's actually like a thing though, where we're so old that there are children now named after the NBA stars that we watched. Why would somebody name their kid Kobe Bryant?

It's because they loved Kobe Bryant, and they have children now. Best quarterback selection. Josh, do not call them the commanders. Whatever alternate name you want, call them something else. For people wondering, this is day three only, so all the day two guys don't count on this. Yeah, I think I forced Tra traps to change his answer here i thought we were going to double dip but i went with uh sam howell to the washington commandos um just to really you know he's a smart

player he's a good leader um has been incredibly productive in crucial situations dating back to his freshman year throws the good uh the deep ball with good touch. One thing that we've discussed about as a potential concern is that he encourages too much contact as a runner. I mean, he seeks it out. He has to take fewer hits in the NFL, but a guy that I think when you look at his leadership, his ability to lead his team in crunch time, I think that's the kind of traits that you look for as a low end starter, maybe even just a long-term backup for your organization. I'm not calling on Sam. I actually,

I actually think Sam Howell is going to be a good quarterback at the pro level. And we'll, I think Sam Howell's production will greatly exceed his draft spot this is kind of a good landing spot but i'm not sure that like is he definitely ahead of taylor heineke on the depth chart like i like the pick by washington and i i really like sam howell like i think he's got a good deep ball um somebody here's my question is how do you feel if you're the commanders you get the training camp and carson wentz is the third best quarterback on your roster you don't feel great

about it that's what ek said i think yeah because that seems like a legit worry they will force carson wentz in there even though sam howell outplays him and taylor heineke outplays him because then nobody will ever know that the other two are better than him that's right yeah it's like ron rivera's got a handsaw like just going at the hamstrings of heineken and howell just uh he's like all right we're gonna sign uh uh he's like uh is cal allen still around we need we need somebody who carson wins can definitely beat out um anywho traps who's your uh you guys still on the screen too right yes bailey zappy uh i agree with everything josh said but i just didn't want to double dip uh bailey zappy and it's easy for me to say this without ryan wilson on the podcast because he loved mac jones last year he was early

on the mac jones train as a first rounder i did not see it with mac jones whatsoever i thought mac jones had a very overrated rookie season and it kind of showed late in his rookie year that he was not very good in his first season. So I like the Bailey Zappi pick because I think he's kind of an opposite of Mac Jones type quarterback and that he's going to throw it downfield. Even if he does make a mistake or he's not accurate the next throw, he's going to rip it through a tight window. Now the offense at Western Kentucky was very wide open. He threw 60 touchdowns, whatever it was, because they were in five wide, and they just threw it like four verticals on every play. But I think he's got good pocket presence.

The arm strength, in my opinion, isn't much worse, and it could be even better than Mac Jones. So for the Patriots to pick him there was a little surprising. Maybe that makes Mac Jones a loser that we can talk about later. But I was pretty happy watching Bailey Zappi's film, feeling like he would have been a fourth or a fifth round pick. Didn't think he would go to the Patriots, but I think he lands in a situation where of course the Patriots want Mac

Jones to be the starter after their record with him as the quarter, as their starter last year. But I think Bailey Zappi is actually in a nice situation, especially now that he wasn't undrafted or a seventh rounder to be an early day three pick. I think they have a fair amount of confidence in him, ultimately becoming at least a quality backup on that roster. By the way,

I got to take an L here. I'm an idiot. I mentioned Michael Carter and you did not say Brees Hall. I didn't say Brees Hall. I'm an idiot. And Debo's in there, like, making fun of me, like, kind of passive-aggressively. I was like, what is he talking about?

Why is he, like, giving Mike Kinney props? I'm surprised more people didn't catch that and dunk on me for it. That's on me. Forgot they drafted Brees Hall. We did... So the first two nights of the draft, we were doing these, like, on-demand videos,

and I feel like I missed several key picks. What was Brees Hall's number? What did he go? He was 36? 37? Yeah. He had just been drafted when Brees Hall... Did we do some kind of video right before Brees Hall got drafted?

No. Are you crazy? Nope. Debo's right. We didn't. We did, however, on the No. Nope. Devo says nope. Nope. You're right. Devo's right. We didn't. We did, however, on the show with Emory Hunt, I did say that Brees Hall was a dream scenario for the Jets. So maybe that's what you were thinking about. And just to be clear, Brinson, I actually didn't see Mike's comment there about Brees Hall.

I was referring to the comment that said, gets to learn under Super Bowl winner Carson Wentz. I like the fact that we saw J.P. Finley, friend of the pod, great dude in general, and people around who cover Washington, the commandos, were tweeting out, I don't think Carson Wentz will be too bothered by them taking the quarterback with the first pick in the next round. It's like, if Carson Wentz gets bothered by this, seek help, bro.

Like, what do you think? Like, they draft a quarterback with the first pick in the fifth round, and you're like, I know this is my third team in three years, but this is unacceptable. Where did Ellinger go last year, fourth or fifth? He's so soft. Put a Sam Howell statue out in front of FedEx Field. Carson Wentz is gone in three months.

But yeah, shout out to Mike Kinney. Nailed it in the chat. Send him a pint glass, Diva. Wentz is texting his agent right now and trying to get traded out of Washington. They drafted someone in the fifth round to be on the depth chart with me. All right, best wide receiver selection, day three. Josh, what do you got? I went with Michael Woods to the Cleveland Browns

because the Browns needed wide receivers. Yes, it is a homer pick. But Oklahoma did not target the boundary that often, which is where Michael Woods was playing. I mean, he's an Arkansas transfer, a guy that's probably going to be used more in the slot moving forward, but a willing blocker. So a guy that you can trust having on the field when you're in run situations where in that wide zone blocking scheme, you're going to be asking your wide receivers to block in space. And he was willing to do so when he was in Norman. So I think it's

a good fit. I like his upside. When you're talking about the run on the position that we had in the first two days, you know, you, you're, you're taking a flyer on players and on day three, I mean, you're hoping that they can tap into some of the traits that they have shown in the past. And I think that's what Cleveland was doing here. Getting a guy that maybe was not used to his full capabilities at oklahoma traps all right i'm gonna stick with the homer theme and go with khalil shakir of the buffalo

bills uh and i'm gonna go super nerdy will call me uh warren sharp in the slack room earlier i'm gonna go super nerdy i thought you did which is totally fine i'm but i'm gonna go warren sharp those are slack chats. Well, we do it sometimes. Warren Sharpe has this weird tweet. He's like, what a bad omen for Mac Jones. The only time in history that a fourth. It was some bizarre stat about like David Carr didn't work out in Houston

because they drafted a quarterback. And the correlation causation had it just didn't make any damn sense. And that's what I was going to do. I'm going to go with my Warren Sharp-esque stat that last year the Bills. Did you think that was a compliment? Because it was not. No, I thought it was a bit. So I'm going to write it out.

That the Bills had the second lowest average yards after the catch per reception in the NFL. Only the Dolphins were lower. So the Bills were great on offense, but they did not really create after the catch. You watch Khalil Shakir's film, that's where he excels. He's kind of built like a running back, not a crazy athlete, pretty good tracking the football in the back shoulder game down the field, but he's going to be good on slants on bubble screens on short routes from josh allen that he can turn a five-yard pass into a 15 or 20-yard

gain so i think on day three to trade up to get him in the fifth round is exactly what the bills needed just to kind of add another layer to their offense oh i know what it was you called um by the way breach if you want to say something go ahead i mean we've tried to blitzkrieg through these day three stuff as fast as possible. I'll just – you know, I actually have a receiver, so I'll throw in real quick. Calvin Austin, who went to the Steelers. I'm picking a rival team. I was – you know, after the Steelers took George Pickens in the second round,

I thought they were done taking receivers. I thought this was a surprise, but I feel like it's a good pick because Calvin Austin – was it fourth round where he got taken? Yeah. Fourth round, 138th pick. And this guy is athletic.

I mean, he's somebody who could have gone maybe a little bit earlier. I think one of the knocks on him, which I can relate to is his height. He's a short guy. He's only, I think five foot eight. But I think he is someone who is one of those guys,

you put the ball in his hands, I think he had the third or fourth fastest 40 time at the Combine. He's somebody who could be doing big things for the Steelers next year. I got nothing on these. I looked at these wide receivers. I got nothing. I'm going to give a shout out to Montreal Washington because he went to Sanford.

Sanford. Sanford, as we know. Had a really good game against Florida. Oh, that Sanford. Good player. Sanford, as we know. Had a really good game against Florida. Oh, that's right. Good call. Yeah, there was no Warren Sharpe Slater, by the way, just to be clear. Traps in Slack said, uh-oh, Mac Jones is a loser.

They drafted Bailey Zappi. The Patriots draft a quarterback every year. Mac Jones is fine. I do like Bailey Zappi. He's already backtracking. I don't want somebody clipping this and being like, Brinson hates Warren Sharpe. Warren's been on the pot a billion times.

Yeah, he's great. Best running back selection, day three for you, Josh. I went with Missouri's Tyler Beatty going to the Baltimore Ravens. It's obviously a running back-friendly system. He was an undervalued player, in my opinion. He's a little bit undersized, but he plays bigger than that. And he's fantastic in the pass catching game. So I think he gives them a little bit more of a dynamic ability as a pass catcher. And they need depth. I mean, we saw how they ran through it this past year. So to bring in another guy that I think plays bigger than his size and can contribute in the pass game, I think is a big win for a team that really leans on the run game. Traps. So you got, Oh, I would, before you say it, I'm just going to, so I look like I know what I'm talking about, at least to a small degree, Isaiah Spiller with, you know, you look at what the chargers have had in the running game the last few years. Like Austin Eckler's just, what are you laughing at, Breach?

I love that you cut off tracks. I know, I was like, I was looking at the draft and I was like, I love this Isaiah Spiller pick. It's all good. I knew, no, traps had Isaiah Spiller written down, but I was looking at the draft tracker and it's like, you know, like I like Justin Jackson, but if

Austin Eckler gets hurt, it feels like the Chargers offense really bogs down and now maybe traps. They have some good depth of the position with a young guy like Isaiah Spiller. Yeah, I agree. I love Isaiah Spiller. What do you got? You know who really impressed

me? Isaiah Spiller. Oh, ho, ho! Up high, down hard! That made me the funniest thing you've ever... Josh, that was beautiful. Good work. Who's your best, most surprising, most surprising player?

I'm just kidding. Who are your running backs? Yeah, I mean, I think we already covered Spiller, the whole team, besides me. So I'll go with treston ebner of the chicago bears out of baylor uh abram smith was kind of the the workhorse there for the baylor bears i didn't see it with him he i'm pretty sure he didn't get picked yeah he didn't get picked ebner is a really dynamic return guy uh he's got a thick lower half the

change of direction ability and contact balance i I thought, were certainly draftable. And the Bears, they have David Montgomery, who's kind of a side-to-side running back, not really fast. I liked Khalil Herbert last year out of Virginia Tech, who played well when David Montgomery was injured. But to get someone in, Tristan Ebner, who really has some juice down the football field. We know that whole Baylor program was kind of like a track team out there on the football field. I believe he ran somewhere in the mid four fours at the combine that can be your punt returner as well. If he's not, you know, the running back too early on. So I thought that was good value for a bears team trying to build around Justin Fields in the future. I was surprised his teammate, Abram Smith didn't get drafted either. I thought they were

similar players. I thought he would have been taken somewhere. Is Snoop Conner insane to throw out there? No, it's not. He's good. First of all, he's an incredible name. That is awesome. Yeah.

And, like, we don't – We go to the Jags, right? Jags, yeah. So the – they, right? Yeah. So the, they love James Robinson before, then they didn't like the new one. Cause the urban. Yeah.

So it's, it's hard to have ETN coming back. And obviously like ETN was going to be that, you know, like Percy Harvin role or whatever urban is going to do with him, make him a slot receiver, but he tears his ACL. And, and so like that, that him a slot receiver, but he tears his ACL.

And so that depth charge is very weird. But I think Snoop Conner's a nice value there, even if he doesn't see a ton of time. All right. Best. Best. Most surprising undrafted player. I'm going to name someone

that you guys won't name. Because I've seen who you're going to name. I think Justin Ross going undrafted is pretty crazy. Like I know his medicals are a disaster, but like he was really good at Clemson. So that's my guy. Who you got, Josh? I went with Arizona State offensive guard Donovan West, just a really athletic player that can play in space. I think he's a fantastic fit for a wide zone blocking scheme.

And half the league employs that scheme at this point in time. It's difficult to find quality offensive linemen. So I'm a little surprised that somebody didn't take a chance on him there. Does a good job of sealing backside blocks, all that kind of stuff. So he's, he's one of the more intriguing players, I think as we hit undrafted free agency. I already named my guy traps. I don't know who the hell Josh is talking about.

Go ahead. I'll go with Mario Goodrich. And as we were signing on Debo, let me know that he, or kind of told all of us that Goodrich signed with the Eagles to like an unprecedentedly large under undrafted free agent contract. Mario Goodrich from Clemson played opposite Andrew Booth, who obviously went early in the second round. He doesn't have great speed and he's a little bit

skinny. He would get out-physicaled by bigger receivers at times. But if you're looking for short area quickness, and I think that's really important at the cornerback spot today with how good these route runners are at the NFL level, that's where Mario Goodrich excelled. And he wasn't a four-year starter with tons of productivity but in the final season in 2021 I thought he was certainly worth being selected and again like I've been telling Debo to kind of expose our slack room again like this draft keeps coming up Debo over and over again to get a player that I thought was like a fourth or a fifth round caliber corner and just get him on the free agent ranks i think was a pretty surprising

development he's a player that underneath and at the intermediate level can be a good cornerback in that eagles kind of zone heavy scheme and i'll throw in uh carson strong the nevada quarterback i thought for sure we would see him get drafted and then maybe you get to the first two rounds and there's no quarterbacks and you're thinking oh my god every quarterback's falling down and it just felt like teams didn't think the quarterback class was that good but even then you know like the Steelers drafted a quarterback in the seventh round I thought Carson Strong would have been a that would have been a good spot there even though they also had Kenny Pickett just keep bringing in the rookie quarterbacks uh if you're going to take a second one, I thought he would have made

more sense or even the 49ers with their last pick. Whatever. You have Trey Lance. You have Jimmy Garoppolo. But if you're going to take a flyer on a quarterback, I would have taken Carson Strong over Brock Purdy. Did he sign with anybody yet? Also a Philadelphia Eagle.

Carson Strong, the best Carson ever played for the eagles yes or no oh yeah oh yeah by the way do you guys did um do you guys know about fidget spinners but like these kids are these fidget spinners yeah i use golf balls and pins as my fidget spinners golf balls or the airpod tossing a golf ball around down here i'm scared I'll open the AirPod and activate some Bluetooth thing. I was going to point out something and I completely forgot about it. Anyway, hit the like button. Oh, I know what it was. Myself

and Redacted, because I don't want to hurt his reputation as a draft savant when it comes to betting on the draft, had a bet from like maybe september carson strong to be the number one did not cash suffice to say um anywho let's take a break and we come back we will give you winners and losers for the full 2022 NFL draft next. Okay.

So the draft is done mercifully. Let's dive in. We'll start with you. We're each going to do two winners and one loser. And I want to preface this by saying that I think it was really, really difficult to find losers in this draft. It's always difficult in the first place

to find losers in a draft because you're like, oh man, I kind of like that player and I like that player. And yes, they reach for this. But in this particular draft, I went through every team. I mean, not like this is rocket science,

but when the draft ends, I go through every team. I look at their draft class. You sort of try to soak it in from a global perspective and say, all right, did they do a good job drafting? Obviously, you put more weight on the early picks. And every single team that didn't have good early picks usually had no early picks. And they didn't have those early picks because they traded for someone like Tyreek Hill or Devontae Adams. Like, I'm not labeling the Raiders as losers because they traded for someone like Tyreek Hill or Devante Adams like I'm not

labeling the Raiders as losers because they didn't pick early they got Devante Adams I was like in the Dolphins draft class I was like this is what a bunch of losers and I was like all right they have Tyreek Hill you know and and so I the trades to me have to factor into it do we all agree with that yeah definitely and I think conversely to not always just think that the teams that make So the trades to me have to factor into it. Do we all agree with that? Yeah, definitely. And I think conversely to not always just think that the teams that make like 15 picks are winners because they have more. I mean, that's what you want to do as a team. But I think we gravitate toward the teams that have three first rounders.

They did an amazing job or the teams. And actually, I think Breach is going to talk about one of these teams that I think had a good draft, too. But usually the teams that have like 11 or 12 picks, everyone kind of wants to say, oh, they did a great job. Look, they got that guy, this guy, and that guy. When that's not always the case. Am I giving both of my winners just like a snake? Give one.

We'll do a two-rounder, and then we'll each give a loser. All right. Well, then I'll just start. I was going to start with the position, but nope. I'm going to start with my first number one winner, and that is the Baltimore Ravens. I just feel like every time someone went up to announce a Ravens pick, it was a home run. It was starting with Kyle Hamilton, their first pick, and maybe not so much their last pick, but by then you're getting to the bottom of the sixth round. But everything before that, I mean, we're talking about besides Kyle Hamilton, Tyler Linderbaum fell in their lap in the first round.

So just if they would have just ended the draft with those two picks, I think they're winners. And then you add David Ajabo, probably picked about, fell again into the race. Everything fell Baltimore's way. It's almost impossible to believe that this happened. I mean mean he felt like a guy who was a top 40 prospect by most people falls to 45 to the Ravens Travis Jones was someone who most people pegged going in the second round falls the third round of the Ravens and when you're talking about Baltimore you're always talking about their defense and to be able to add Hamilton and Travis Jones is unbelievable.

I could even talk about punters. I mean, my goodness, if there is one person I am never going to second guess when it comes to special teams, kickers, or punters, it is John Harbaugh. He's a former special teams coordinator. Nobody knows more. No head coaching NFL knows more about special teams than him, so the fact that he took Jordan Stout over Matt Ariza is completely fine with me. And I'll talk about that later.

Even in the fourth round with Jalen Armour Davis. I mean, it was just my God, how did they get him? He should have been way off the board before 119th overall. And that's what it felt like with the Ravens. The whole draft was how did they get that person? How was that person still available at that number? And just, it was a masterclass in drafting. Congratulations, Ravens.

You get an A-plus from me. I'm not sure I've ever called the Ravens a loser in any draft I've ever covered. They do an awesome job in the middle. Yeah, I mean, they just just a great job at it. Traps, give us a winner from the draft. I'm going to go with the Cleveland Browns, Josh's team. I think, I mean, you obviously have to factor in that they have Deshaun Watson,

but like you were mentioning, Will, that for teams that don't have a bunch of those early picks to just not really fault them for that, especially if they have a really good player. I like Martin Emerson, the corner from Mississippi State. I like his length. This was a corner class that did not have a lot of tall, long, lanky corners. He's one of them.

I think he's good in man and zone. Alex Wright, someone that looks like Miles Garrett and that he's around the same size. If he learns pass rushing moves from Garrett, I think he can be a steal in the third round. I like David Bell. I'm a little concerned about his long speed, but I think we're moving into this NFL where the Debo Samuels and the A.J. Browns and the D.J. Moores of the world,

these six foot 200 plus wide receivers are winning so well after the catch because they're thick. They have running back like ability, contact balance through the roof. That's where David Bell wins, and he's really good in contested catch situations. And that was always like wide receiver needs to be addressed. I liked Perry and Winfrey. That inside position along their defensive line needed to be addressed, and it was with kind of a penetrator that can play up and down the line.

Cade York, Breach can speak more to him than I can. I didn't dive super deep into the specialist. And then I agree with what Josh said about Michael Woods to double dip on the wide receiver spot. He's kind of a possession receiver. I like that. I liked Isaiah Thomas. He's NFL-ready edge rusher, doesn't have as much upside as Alex Wright,

but I think he can be really good as a rookie. And then I even like Dawson Deaton, the seventh round center from Texas Tech. He's tall and you usually don't like centers to be tall, but he plays with good knee bend. I think his athleticism is really good. He can recover if he's beaten. Just to add to that already really rock solid offensive line, I think just up and down addressing needs with players that I thought should have gone a lot earlier, similar to like what the Ravens did. They let the draft come to them. So two really strong drafts, in my opinion, in the AFC North.

AFC North crushing it. The Browns. I mean, if you're the Browns and you come out of the draft as winners with getting good players after you took Des Sean Watson yeah you know putting aside the off-field stuff I mean you got to feel pretty good about where you are relative to competing or getting back to competing I will say actually I won't say because I think Josh is going to touch on this later but the rounds do have a lingering issue out there uh Josh you have to let a winner I went with the seattle seahawks i've been a little critical of them through this process um just not knowing if they were trying to be competitive for the coming season or if they were entering a rebuild process but i think

we kind of saw their strategy play out over the course of these three days uh we talked a lot about the offensive line and how much help they needed. So they go out, they add Charles Cross from Mississippi State at number nine overall, who was my second rated offensive tackle. Second round, you get Boye Mafe, who I valued very highly. People talk about him as kind of a pass rush specialist, but I think he's more well-rounded than that. I don't think he's as big of a liability in coverage or in run defense as maybe what many people have suggested. Kenneth Walker III obviously may have not been the biggest need for that franchise, but a guy that was my top-rated running back. Just a physical player, good ankle flexion, can bounce it out to the outside and really get yards after contact. Abraham Lucas, again, a right tackle that is very athletic. You plug and play

him on that offensive line. You just need to add bodies to that unit. Kobe Bryant, traditional Seahawks cornerback, great length, physical. He's going to attack the ball at the catch point, all that kind of stuff. Same thing with Tariq Woolen. Thought that was fantastic value to get them where they did at that point in the draft. Tyreek Smith is a guy that Traps loves. You know, as an edge rusher, Bo Melton, I think, is fantastic after the catch. His ability to work in space. The wide receiver from Rutgers.

And then you finish out with Derek Young, who is a wide receiver by nature, but probably big enough that he can be a tight end at the next level. Split him out into the Y and use him downfield. So just a really well-rounded draft class, I think. And you can kind of see their process as it unfolded over the course of those three days. So I'm going to go against the grain, against podcast narrative and say,

bring it, bring it. I mean, I don't know how you look at the Philadelphia Eagles draft and don't think that the Eagles are big time winners after this draft. Cause you like, again, I go to our CBS draft checker page.

Like I'm on the same page that you're seeing on your screen right now if you're watching on YouTube. And I'm like, man, they landed Jordan Davis. They also pulled Cam Juergens, who has Trapp's notes in his grades, could be like a mentee to Jason Kelsey. They stopped N'Kobe Dean's slide in the third round, and maybe he won't play for a year. That's fine.

It doesn't always work out. Sidney Jones didn't work out. But N'Kobe Dean was the heart and soul of that Georgia defense. And if he comes back and he's N'Kobe Dean, he's going to be an impact player. And it's worth a flyer at 83. I don't know a ton about Kyron Johnson and Grant Calcaterra. Sounds like he blogs for NBC Sports about baseball.

But we talk about this draft class as a whole, and we didn't even mention they have A.J. Brown. Like, they got A.J. effing Brown. They got A.J. Brown and Jordan Davis. I love those first – the way that they handled the first two. And now I will say this. I don't know if we talked about this in Debo. I don't know if you heard this or if you guys heard this,

but apparently the Eagles had a deal done to go up and get Jameson Williams and got sniped by the Lions. So then they reversed course and they said, all right, what we're going to do is snipe the Ravens and grab Jordan Davis. If you come out of the first round with Jordan Davis and A.J. Brown, who very clearly did, like the Titans did not want to trade him because Mike Vrabel was doing an angry toddler stomp in the draft room while wearing a suit as a giant former linebacker turned head coach meat stick.

And I love Rays, but like, you know, and I don't blame him. I would have been in the corner pouting and wouldn't have come back on camera. If you've traded AJ Brown on the clock in round one, Cause we low balled him at $16 million, a slap in the face. Eagles locked him in. Do we know if, for instance, I mean, I was just going to ask love everything you just said and, and agree.

It seemed like the Eagles had interest, but do you still think they intended to go after A.J. Brown? Just when a deal like that happens and they sign him to this $100 million deal within five minutes of the trade happening, I feel like that was building up throughout the day, right? Or do you think they could have gone in and like, hey, we'll trade up for Jamison and also trade for A.J. Brown? That's a great question. So it makes it a little less likely in my mind that they maybe were going for Jamison.

I agree. That's probably true, but let's consider who's their quarterback. I'm doing Carson Strong. Yeah, Carson Strong. I'm doing the thing where I ask obvious questions. I bet you're doing like breach trivia time. Yeah, yeah. So Jalen Hurts played where oklahoma and alabama alabama their number one wide receiver is

davon jameson williams i'll say is that i think that they were probably and i know that like i think they were thinking about the possibility i know that that Jalen Hurts and – did Jalen Hurts play together? Probably. Probably were there for a year. Jameson Williams didn't even play with Mac Jones. Oh, that's right because he came from Ohio State. You're right. Yeah.

Okay. Well, anyway, they're putting a bunch of Alabama guys in the same room and hoping it worked out. It didn't. They still drafted A.J. Brown. My point being is that, like, I don't know the answer to that. I would think that the – so the JMO was drafted, and then they traded up for Jordan Davis,

and then they made the A.J. Brown trade, right? So I would think the A.J. Brown trade was probably a result of the JMO move up not working out. But there had been discussions about A.J. Brown over the last, as I think Tom Robinson said, 18 hours. Josh pointed out. It wasn't quite like flying Hollywood Brown to Arizona for the draft party. It wasn't as extravagant as that. But it seems like, I mean, it's easy to do,

but like Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown were on FaceTime two seconds after the trade was made and he became an eagle. I feel like there was some indications. Well, I mean, what we need to figure out is what is the time difference between... Yeah, you think people in the chat are like, I don't remember Thursday. No, I don't remember Thursday. I don't remember what the time difference is

between Jamison Williams being drafted by the Lions and A.J. Brown being traded to the Eagles. Probably a half hour, but ultimately it doesn't matter. So I would say the framework was in place, but I would guess, because I don't think that they could have gotten both Jamison and A.J. Brown because of the draft capital it would have involved, although they could have certainly given up a pick next year.

I don't think they wanted to do that, but they could have given up a pick next year to get A.J. Brown. A.J. Brown, Jameson Williams, and Devontae Smith feels like Death Star overkill a little bit. Maybe not. Yeah, it does. Yeah, I'd rather come away from this draft with Jordan Davis and A.J. Brown

than Jamison Williams and A.J. Brown. For sure. I'm saying that I think that there's probably parameters in place for an A.J. Brown deal. And Howie and the Eagles were like, okay, we are down for this deal, but we do have some guys that we're interested in in the first round.

We don't want to pull the trigger on the deal because A.J. Brown's going to be expensive until we see how the top of our wide receiver board plays out. And then once the Lions jumped up and grabbed J-Mo, at that point, Howie is like, all right, give us a second. We're going to jump up and grab Jordan Davis. And then we'll work on a deal where you guys send us AJ Brown and we send you our second

first round pick. That, that seems to me like the likely timeline for that. Does that seem fair? Fair. You guys are stunned with how clairvoyant that was. I'm done with my first winner. So I'll go back to you, Breach, to do your little special teams bit. What is that supposed to mean?

You know what, Brunson? I've been doing that. I'm pumped. It was purposely insulting. Relax. The past 10 minutes, I have been trying to find out what the exact time was so that we could put your little timeline theory and you could get it all

figured out because i do know that the aj brown trade was originally reported by adam schefter at 9 56 p.m probably should have been so dismissive of you when you've got the receipts seats on my face so eastern time ha ha ha ha ha do you 956 956 that's and then the lions trade came down at 9 24 so it sounds like it's exactly the same timeline that i suggested it sounds like you might be right anyway talk about your precious little special teams so my winner were not just special teams the punters specifically uh this was a huge draft for punters you do not see four punters drafted very often as a matter matter of fact, this is only the second time it has happened over the past 20 years. The other time it happened was 2018, so recent, but still only the second time it's happened since 2000. And it really was interesting because of how early they got selected. I mean, we saw two punters go off the

board in the fourth round, which almost never happens. This is only the third time since 1990 that we have seen two punters go off the board by the fourth round. And, uh, you know, I mentioned earlier, Jordan Stout being the first one that is, uh, he was one of the top three punters um i thought that he would get drafted so it wasn't a surprise necessarily that he got drafted before a rise especially not surprising because it was john harbaugh nobody knows special teams more than john harbaugh which i mentioned earlier and you know what the key punting metric that most people look at you know you'll talk about matt arises hang time and out kicking their coverage. But what, when push comes to shove, what you want to know is a punter's net punting average. Because if you can boom at 80 yards and your guys can't get there and you're giving up 10 yard

returns, then your net punting average is going to go down. If you can finesse punter, and maybe you can only punt at 50 yards, but you can kick it out of bounds at exactly 50 yards every time, then NFL teams are going to want you. And so Jordan Stout actually had a better net punting average than Matt Ariza at last year, just barely. Jordan Stout was fourth in the country and Ariza was sixth in the country. So they were very, very close. And then I would say Jake Camarda going toa bay was probably the surprise at 133rd overall it's like the buccaneers don't know what they're doing with special teams uh we saw them make the roberto aguayo trade back in 2016 i would have taken a risa or trenton gill either one of those guys over camarda uh but tampa took him in the fourth round and he'll

probably unseat Bradley Pinion. But the fact that four punters went was crazy. And then we saw Trapasso's boys, the Buffalo bills, stop the bleeding, everybody wondering why punt God wasn't getting drafted. And then with the first pick of the sixth round, Arisa comes off the board.

Josh Edwards kind of mocking traps, though, by saying that this is just Corey Buarquez Jr. with the monster leg but can't hold. Again, that's going to be interesting once he gets there. But this is a great landing spot for Ariza because, look, and Brinson, you pointed this out, and it was a great point, is that the Bills don't punt a lot. They had the fifth fewest punts in the NFL last year, and the the bills don't punt a lot they had the fifth fewest

punts in the nfl last year and the bills don't need a finesse punter they just need someone because if the bills don't want to punt you know i mean no team wants to punt but the bills are going to go for it on fourth down and fourth and short and so if the bills are punting it's going to be because they're at their own 30 yard line at their own 20 yard line and when you're putting in that situation you can just say hey matt hey, Hey, punt God, uh, just punt a touchback, just kick it 70 yards in the air and nobody has to cover anything. Uh, and so I won't be surprised if the bills let him boom it out often. And then Brenton's Brenton's boy, Trenton Gill from NC state. Um, you know, he's going to get a lot of work in Chicago. And,, and I thought that was a smart pick by the Bears.

There were a bunch of good punters in this draft, and that is why we had a historical punting draft. This will be remembered as the year of the punters, the draft of the punters. The punters are winners. Debo, if you could kindly just clip very quickly the portion of the program where Breach said that I made multiple good points about special

teamers. I apologize. My faux dismissal. Okay. I got you. You don't really have to do it. No, I was just clipping the stuff about you saying I bet the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. They're my favorite team. Blah, blah, blah. Go Tar Heels.

What a goon. Hey, look. Congratulations. I tell you what. I'm going to sneak a third winner in here. North Carolina Tar Heels football program. You can't do that. I can't. You yelled at Traps.

It's a bit. Let me do it. It's a bonus winner here. The North Carolina Tar Heels football program they absolutely dominated the fifth round tonight they had three guys taken in the first 30 picks of the fifth round anytime you could hype up like a bunch of recruits and win six games and then send three fifth rounders to the nfl draft you pat yourself on the back and say, we are – Mac is back, baby. Mac is back.

All right, Traps, who's your next pick? Wait, wait, real quick. Whoever said the Browns had the winning draft, was that Trapasso? Yeah. Called the Browns winners and mentioned Cade York and a commenter just mentioned Cade York. I will say I love that pick. Cade York was the number one kicker I thought in this draft,

and I didn't even think it was close. I know Cameron Dicker from Texas, people have talked about him. Nick Skiba from Wake Forest was the most accurate kicker in NCAA history when he ended his career this past year, and that's likable. But these guys, distance inaccuracy aren't really easy to find in college kickers. The Wake Forest kicker, yeah, he's accurate, but he never made a kick over 50 yards. So you don't know if he has any range, and Wake Forest didn't ask him to do much.

And so that scares off NFL teams. But Cade York had both, and he was awesome at both. Last two years combined, he was 11 of 14 from beyond 50, which is a miracle for browns fans if you got stuck watching chase mclaughlin last year who i think went two of six maybe two and nine over his last six games i mean it was ugly and so the browns had to draft a kicker and then you look at some of the times these strong-legged guys don't have the accuracy to go with it kade y York, 90% from inside

50 yards last year, hit 9 of 10. And you know what? College, you get the wide hashes, so it's a little bit more difficult to try the closer kicks, and he nailed them. So I thought the Browns hit a home run with that pick. The worst part about that for me is I had to listen to Breach talk about how awesome Cade York is, only to know that Corey Bjorkes is the punter right now, and he's going to be holding those kicks. That was the most difficult part about hearing that. What is happening? What are you doing? What are we doing here?

McLaughlin's not going to make a single You want to Oh, you're just bringing up total numbers? Get the fuck out of here. I'm going to swear at you, D-Man. We want to go quality yes quantity who cares about quantity all right i'll start with lawrence taylor okay i mean lawrence taylor's like finished his nfl career before you were born but sure yeah throw out lawrence taylor

that makes total sense wait what schools are we comparing nc state and what we're not we're not doing an nc state carolina nfl draft comparison we're 57 minutes let're not doing an NC state Carolina NFL draft comparison. We're 57 minutes. Let's get along here. Traps. Who's your next winner? Phillip rivers. All right. Mine is,

I do respect Debo's quick ability to get Mario Williams. I'm going to go, I'm going to go with the Tennessee Titans. And it's not to say that I didn't like what the Eagles did, but the flip side of that, AJ Brown trade, they draft Traylon Burks with that selection didn't like what the Eagles did, but the flip side of that AJ Brown trade, they draft Traylon Burks with that selection that they got from the Eagles. And then they traded back again when the Jets moved up to get Jermaine

Johnson in the back part of the first round with those picks after Traylon Burks, they got Roger McCreary from Auburn, who Josh and I liked a lot. Ryan Wilson liked a lot, felt like a borderline first rounder. They got him in thatary from Auburn, who Josh and I liked a lot. Ryan Wilson liked a lot. Felt like a borderline first rounder. They got him in that trade with the Jets. They got Nicholas Petitfriere, an offensive tackle from Ohio State. I'm not a huge fan of his, but they did need a right tackle, and that's where he's probably going to play. They also got Kyle Phillips, who's like a Cole Beasley type slot receiver,

very good underneath getting open with his quickness. And then they were able to use their fifth rounder and a third rounder to trade up to get Malik Willis. So he was my number one quarterback. It was obvious that I was going to gravitate toward the Titans. And yes, I would have just paid A.J. Brown and been done with it if I was Tennessee. But the fact that they got Traylon Burks, Roger McCreary, Nicholas Petit-Frier, Kyle Phillips, and then packaged up some extra picks to get Malik Willis, I thought that made them huge winners on the flip side of those two round one draft trades.

Everyone said, oh my God, look at the Jets. They got Jermaine Johnson, and he was the number eight player on their board, but he went 26th. And certainly again, A.J. Brown to the Eagles is huge. I like the flip side of it actually as the draft progressed for the Tennessee Titans and you obviously have to factor in they didn't pay a wide receiver 25 million dollars per year again I would have done it but I was really interested

to see what the Titans did with some of those selections that they got in those two trades in round one and I think they almost hit a home run I mean as good as you can do after you trade back especially when you throw in Malik Willis who is my round one, and I think they almost hit a home run. I mean, as good as you can do after you trade back, especially when you throw in Malik Willis, who is my number one quarterback. Josh, I have some conflicting thoughts on the Titans coming up in the next section, but I don't disagree with the idea that – and it's weird because you can – you can like the Titans drafted weird because you can yeah you can like more players and you can also find situations where someone didn't win um i think generally speaking that the titans did a good job i'm not sure the titans are definitely better for next year but that's a we'll talk about

that more down the road um josh your next winner so my second winner is the new york jets uh and i think it's the second year that i've called them a winner because I just like what Joe Douglas has done in the captain's chair of that organization. You start with Ahmad Sosgardner, who was my top overall prospect. I love his length. I love his competitive toughness, his ball skills dating back to his freshman year, all that kind of stuff. That's a premier position. So you've got that locked down for hopefully another decade before you have to worry about it again. You've got Garrett Wilson, who was my top rated wide receiver, a guy that has tremendous body

control down the field, knows what to do with the football in space once he gets it. Jermaine Johnson, you know, where he was taken was probably more in line with how I viewed him, but it's a premier position, you know, so you're getting a guy that you had a stronger conviction for, and he's going to be playing opposite Carl Lawson. I'll take that every day. I mean, to have two edge rushers of that quality is a luxury that most teams do not have. Brees Hall, again, a perfect fit for what they want to do.

He's a perfect complement to Michael Carter in the backfield. Take a little bit of pressure off of Zach Wilson, just gives them another dynamic, another physical element to the offense. Jeremy Ruckerts, very well-balanced tight end, wasn't really used as a pass catcher in Columbus, but I think he's got a little bit more there than what he's been able to show. He is a fantastic blocker, however, and when you look at the Jets and the wide zone blocking scheme that they employ, that's a perfect fit, a guy that can block in space to maximize the potential of Brees Hall and Michael Carter. Max Mitchell, a very athletic offensive lineman out of Louisiana, played right tackle. He can play wherever you need him.

He's a swing tackle all day when you've got George Vance and Mekhi Becton already there. I just think that's good depth. You get a guy with some upside that could grow into a larger role. And then to finish out with Michael Clemens, who really showed a lot more during his final season with the Aggies and just gives you a little bit more depth at that position. It was very easy to see their philosophy and what they were trying to do through this draft class. I love it. Oh, and then my bonus is the Hayward's, the Hayward's parents, because now they do not have to travel for multiple games on Sundays.

That is kind of cool. By the way, I, so does anybody know what Cameron Hayward's number is? 93, 97. Oh yeah. Nine plus seven is what 16 what does anybody know what number draft his younger brother was like what draft pick he was

608 in the seventh round what's two times eight oh Oh, my God. Are you really doing that? I thought that's late. Okay. How about sixth round, 208th pick? What's six plus two plus eight? Oh, my God. There's some Illuminati stuff right here. Guess how tall Connor Hayward is. Devo's got his finger hovering over the end podcast podcast button i wish i could mute brinson breach and traps and josh

he just spends the rest of the podcast i like his addition here you know you didn't like my addition you're trying to shut me up but you love josh's edition i'm gonna go with the falcons as my second winner um i i kind of like look nobody really likes the falcons in the sense from a national perspective i kind of like the falcons but like nobody nobody's pumped up about the falcons right i mean generally speaking however i think if you look at this draft class, this is a pretty good draft by the Falcons. And it feels like Terry Fontenot is doing a good job acquiring good players. You know what I mean? It takes a while to figure out what a GM and a new coaching staff are doing.

Like Drake London, Kyle Pitts, and then Marcus Mariota slash Desmond Ritter I don't know I don't hate it I don't think it's gonna be like a top 10 offense or anything I don't think it's gonna be a top 15 offense in the league next year but you know a couple of weeks ago and they might get Calvin Ridley back next year too. I mean, it felt like this offense was nada, nothing. Like we joked on the podcast frequently that you can't name any of the Falcons wide receivers. And I know Drake London doesn't solve everything, but if Ritter beats out Mariota,

that means Ritter is playing well leading up to the season. And if he doesn't, you hope that Mariota, in that Arthur Smith offense, which he should know, is playing well too. So I don't picture the Falcons necessarily as a playoff team or anything like that, but I do believe that they got a lot better. They made a ton of picks. I don't know a ton about these late guys like al al's year they're running back out of uh byu i mean traps you gave him a c plus you hate their late round picks but oh my goodness the earth it feels like the first

five picks for the falcons are going to be impact players and that they have at least given a little youthful energy to what was maybe one of the worst rosters in football. Like I feel way better about the Falcons making some noise in 2022. Then I do about the Panthers making some noise and they drafted my guy Icky in the first round. I mean, right. That's fair.

That's fair. Okay. I agree with that. Let's get to the losers. And again, we don't really think you're a loser. No one thinks you're a loser, but we got to do it. We're required to have bosses. I can't do winners and losers.

And it's tough because a lot of teams didn't have a first-round pick. And Breach is going to do something that's worked out very well for many people over the years. He's going to name bill Belichick and the Patriots, a loser. Go ahead. Maybe we should call this winners and not winners.

I seriously, you know what though? I think I called them a loser, maybe last draft. I don't know. Mac Jones. I don't remember. But yes,

if anytime you put the patriots on a loser list you immediately assume that you're gonna regret it down the road and then you second guess yourself and wonder why you did it and my problem with the patriots draft is i just feel like they got too cute like look we know that sometimes you find these diamonds in the rough at these small schools i get it but what you can't do is draft every single guy from a small school. It's just not going to work there. A lot of these guys, there's a reason they're at a smaller school.

And I get that, you know, it sometimes works out, but when more than half your picks, you know, starting off with Cole strange, Tennessee, Chad Nuga,

look, you know, Cole strange probably lasts till the second round maybe till the third round feels like a huge reach then you you go to uh they got someone from South Dakota State they got a quarterback from uh Trapasso talked about earlier Belly Zappy from Western Kentucky someone from Northwest Missouri State I think that was the guy that stumped the truck on I did not know him NFL Network Sam, literally no one knew who he was. So unless Sam Roberts ends up being a 10 year starter, it just ends up being a throwaway pick.

And so it just seems crazy that they're spending all this time grabbing these just small school players. Um, it just feels like they could have done a little better. And every, almost every single one of their picks just felt like a reach of a guy that would have been there around later, or that they're every single one of their picks got picked 10 or 15 picks too early. I'm also fact that they doubled up on running back to what was up with that. Yeah. Apparently Belichick's plan is to run the single wing this year.

I don't know. They, you know, they go with pick one 27, pick 183, and like you just said, traps two running backs right there with a quarterback sandwiched in between. So, I mean, what are you doing there? I don't know. It's just none of it really made sense to me. But again, Belichick is a football genius.

I am not compared to him. So maybe he'll make it all work. But for now, this is just a questionable question there's a 0.0 chance you call them losers if tom brady's on the roster well i mean you know you're gonna get torched it's like oh the patriots are good again i'm not worried about mac jones yes his old takes exposed um by the way just randomly i don't know if i mentioned i'm sure i've mentioned this because I've mentioned everything but um there's a guy in our like Robbie's flag football league there's a coach for another team and he played at Navy and he's like he played football maybe he's constantly wearing like Navy wears Navy shirts when he coaches and he has a full printed out playbook

and runs like the full triple option it's kind of kind of it's kind of fun to watch i mean unfortunately for him he got smoked by on this guy who does run this jet sweep off it no big deal anyway moving on uh traps give us a loser uh i went with the jacksonville jaguars i think i said it at some point over the last couple days i don't remember all these videos are kind of gelling together uh that they went with the devin lloyd chad muma thing josh didn't dislike it as much as i did but especially uh after signing a big ticket item at linebacker it just seemed uh redundant uh to not only have to trade extra picks to get devin lloyd but then go chad muma who's a middle linebacker they're both middle linebackers you already have have one. You mentioned Snoop Conner earlier, Brinson.

I do like him. As a power back, he's really dynamic. He didn't get a lot of carries at Ole Miss behind Jerry and Ealy, who didn't get drafted. I like that selection. I didn't like Gregory Jr. too much in round six from Washita Baptist. I know he was at the Senior Bowl. The athleticism was good, but I think he's going to have a steep learning curve once

he gets into the NFL dealing with professional wide receivers. He didn't really face any of those in college. And Luke Fortner, I liked him. I didn't think, you know, in round three, that seemed a little early. And then I just was, you know, anti-Trevon Walker at number one overall. So you're right. It was hard for me to find a team that I, like, disliked almost all of their selections.

But the Jaguars probably came the closest for me. I was a little confused what this rebuilding team was doing in the 2022 draft. Next up. You'll never find me getting mad at the jacksonville jaguars 2022 nfl draft because you know trayvon walker and all of the units all of the units there's gonna be people like i'm telling you that that draft pick is going to live in infamy on gambling Twitter. That draft pick bought Brinson a yacht. No, man, more like a dinghy. So if you guys want to get on the Brinson Sox yacht,

because that's the name of the yacht. If I ever buy a yacht, I will name it Brinson Sox. How about that? That is my promise to you. What a great promise. Josh, a loser. Yeah, so mine is kind of a cascading loser because it impacts multiple parties. You actually are like four deep or five deep on here.

Oh, easily, easily. So I took the Carolina Panthers. We discussed it heavily on the first two days of the draft, but actually loved what they did by taking Ike Kwanu I think that was a savvy move there Just constructing the offensive line in the event that You know, you're able to plug and play a quarterback next year Should you take him

Also thought they might be in the market for Baker Mayfield But I'll get to that Matt Corral to take him in the third round Trade up, give up a future third round pick. If neither Matt Corral nor Sam Darnold are the future of your organization, you just traded away a valuable draft asset to possibly use in the search of a quarterback next year. And then Brandon Smith, the linebacker from Penn State, a very athletic player. He's just late to react to the ball.

He's, you know, with that kind of athleticism, you expect him to be first on the scene. He just wasn't for Penn State's a very athletic player. He's just late to react to the ball. He's, you know, with that kind of athleticism, you expect him to be first on the scene, and he just wasn't for Penn State. So that's another reason why I didn't care for that one. Amari Barno tested off the charts. I mean, he ran like a 4.38, 40-yard dash, something ridiculous like that, his size, but the production, the tape just didn't match. Kind of a project moving to the second level. And then, honestly, I have no issue with Cade Mays or Kalon Barnes, their final two choices.

But again, Kalon Barnes, a guy that's played for Matt Rule at Baylor and has tremendous speed. I mean, you're talking about a track squad at this point with Barno and Kalon Barnes. But the cascading part of this is because of their move to pick up Matt Corral, that took them out of the Baker Mayfield market, which means that there's one less suitor for Baker Mayfield. Cleveland may not be able to find somebody to take him at this point, which means they could eat his entire salary. They could ask him to stay away from the building and try to wait until somebody signs him in free agency next year,

pick up a comp pick. Maybe you keep him through training camp to see if somebody gets injured and then trade him away like Philadelphia did a couple of years ago with – name escapes me – former Sam Bradford to get a good value in return like what Philadelphia was able to do. Maybe that's an option, but I thought it would have been a better path this year to give up less capital this year, take on a guy like Baker Mayfield. You have your offensive tackle that you took in the first round.

If it doesn't work out, you clean the slate next year with Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield off the books. No skin off your back, and you've still got valuable draft capital to make a move and get a quarterback. All right, I'm going to sneak a fourth winner in here. It's Josh Edwards. What a performance on this particular podcast. One, I don't remember what you said that made me laugh.

Sorry, you jumped in on whatever it was and made me cackle. And two, this pick of the Panthers slash Baker Mayfield slash the Browns slash everyone but the Seahawks slash Jimmy Garoppolo. Just an elite level loser pick because I was trying to find a way to make the Panthers losers, but I already got so much hate mail about my rant about Matt Corral, who I like that I wasn't willing to go down that rabbit hole. And plus, I don't want to kill him because they drafted my guy, Ikea Kwanu, and I think that was the right move. I just didn't like giving up the capital they gave up for Matt Corral.

But you managed to avoid naming the Browns losers for being unable to move Baker Mayfield, putting it on the Panthers. So you pushed the team away. You buried the host team. And you correctly pointed out that, like, what? I mean, like, the Seahawks were, Pete Carroll's driving over the cliff like Thelma and Louise. Like, you think I'll draft?

You think I won't draft a quarterback? Like, you want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. He's just flying over the draft. He's like, we'll go Drew Locke and Juno Smith. I don't care. Browns, cut him. If you want us to get him you cut him we don't pay him anything um the deal fell through with the panthers and baker and tepper panics whatever the browns like i think the browns are a pretty good spot i know traps had them as a winner they

got to sean watson i think they're in a good spot, but this Baker Mayfield thing is a problem, man. One thing I'll say on this, I hope, just because this saga with Baker Mayfield and Watson, how that unfolded, I think it would be very on brand for this whole situation. If they can't trade him, Watson gets suspended, and then Baker Mayfield is the

week one starter. And then... And then he starts 6-0, and they're like uh what do we do now and that would just be i mean believe me being someone that's where he started get it i know and asking price goes from uh oh we have to pay you nine million dollars and give you a fifth round pick two we'll take two first round picks thank you yeah if you go if you start six it looks awesome then all of a sudden they can deal before the trade deadline they're in great shape.

They're like, what if Baker's better than Watson? You're not wrong, Traps. The idea that the Browns will start the season with Baker Mayfield as QB1 because Watson is suspended is not a far-fetched idea. Really, the only landing spot – there's two landing spots, I think. Seattle. Seattle. And they're playing chicken. Tampa Bay is the one that's been like bandied about a lot.

If you see anything at plus money with Tampa Bay to take Baker, I think that's probably worth a flyer just because, you know, tossing behind Tom Brady and, you know, put Kyle Trask in there and maybe, maybe it works out. All right. Brinson, you want to share that? You want to share that YouTube stat that I shared with you last night about the Matt Corral video? Oh, God. It's the most disliked video in the history of the Pick 6 podcast.

Like the percentage of dislikes relative to likes, the highest it's ever been. Our average approval rating for a video is like 95%. Good. Thank you guys for liking. That one, 19%. I went back and watched it today it was me and you're talking about the one where me and traps were talking about the pit right yep i mean i was kind of i wasn't like unhinged but i was pretty pissed off like i splashed an f on the thumbnail because you called it an f traps did not call it an f but you called it an

f so i felt comfortable you know getting the people to click on, but you called it an F, so I felt comfortable getting the people to click on it because you called it an F, and fans were not happy. Fine. I'll throw an extra loser on here. Panthers fans, do you know how draft picks work? Do you know how draft capital works? You think? They're like, I got dudes.

I got random jabronis quote tweeting me like, LOL. I love when the NFL media shows their ass and doesn't understand how the draft actually works i'm like do you think that's how it works do you like do you not remember three or four years ago when they drafted will greer with the third round pick is a total waste of draft capital like we listed all these dudes who were drafted the third round that are really good football players and it's almost never a quarterback i like matt corral i like him as a player i'm fully prepared for the blowback if he ends up being a hall of famer or even a pro bowler and it's almost never a quarterback. I like Matt Corral. I like him as a player.

I'm fully prepared for the blowback if he ends up being a Hall of Famer or even a pro bowler. Like even if he's an MVP, I'm fine with it. But the idea that the Panthers would be in Moan for two months about not having a second or third round pick and then trade back in the third round

for next year's third rounder and draft a quarterback when you could have sat there and taken Sam Howell at no extra cost. There's no one on planet Earth that can definitively say Matt Corral will be a better NFL quarterback than Sam Howell. There's just not. It's a frigging coin flip.

You're talking about late in the draft, and I'm doing it again. Why am I ranting about this stupid thing? We're going to lose all our lights for this video. This one's going to double the distance over the last one. If you're not a Panther, fan, go read the comments. You will enjoy yourself. They're pretty funny. He's like, this guy doesn't know crap about football.

Come down to Charlotte. I'll punch you in the punchable face. Learn the game, Brinson. Learn the game. All right. My loser is a person I like. It's John Breach. Aw.

I'm just kidding. What? It's Ryan Tannehill. And I think Ryan Tannehill's career with Tennessee has been outstanding. You know, it took a while. Like, he had some good stats, but it took a while for him to take off in Miami. You know, he was a converted wide receiver out of A&M. But it is impossible not to think that Ryan Tannehill lost big time in this draft.

In the first round, they traded away A.J. Brown. And all due respect to Traylon Burks, but we know what A.J. Brown is. And Traylon Burks is a rookie wide receiver. There is no one on planet earth who will bet you even money that Traylon Burks will be more productive in 2022 than AJ Brown. If you find that person that as much as you can humanly possible, offer them your children,

offer them everything you have in your life and take. Brown and just deal with the injury risk. They also drafted in the third round Malik Willis in 86 overall. And they're very clearly refusing to give Ryan Tannehill a new contract because he's being pissy and letting it be known that he's not coming to training camp or coming to offseason workouts because he knows he's not getting another big contract from anywhere else. And he is an older veteran quarterback, and they have drafted his replacement and traded away his best weapon and cut Julio Jones.

Their number one receiver is Robert Woods. Their number two receiver is Traylon Burks, who was drafted in the first round and to top it off it's like wait Hollywood Brown for an 18 or was it Hollywood Brown for a 23 was it an 18 for A.J. Brown

gosh golly so Ryan Tannehill I don't think he's a loser in real life he's definitely a winner made a ton of money very seems like a very personable life. That is team to a number one seed. That is team to a number one seed last year. Gets to hang out with Derrick Henry and Taylor LeJuan.

Seems like a fun life. He's a loser on this particular weekend because of what the Titans did. Wow. I hope this work doesn't get back to Tannehill. I'm sure I'll get dragged somehow for it. I'll throw eggs at my house. I can't wait. I mean,

Mack Rouse Hall of Fame. Like I'm going to get like highlighted. My career was Trayvon Walker going one. And now next up is getting like Mack Rouse mentions me in his Hall of Fame speech. I'll have Mike Lombardi. Okay. Anything else? Oh my God. Did we do it? We did it. We made it. a la Mike Lombardi. Okay. Anything else?

Oh my God. Did we do it? We did it. We made it. Under an hour and a half. But full draft recap, you expect 90 minutes. That's our goal. 90 minutes.

Okay. No way in hell we're doing an hour. Why do you think Debo was like one winner a piece, please? And then we came up with two. And then Traps was like, we got to have three. I almost said three. I'm just kidding.

I almost said three. Great stuff. You guys smashed it this week, and you smashed it throughout the draft season. I don't know if people know behind the scenes how hard you work. If you're watching the draft tracker, Traps and Josh are grinding their faces off, occasionally to be surprised by someone they've never heard of being drafted. Traps and Josh are grinding their faces off.

Occasionally to be surprised by someone they've never heard of being drafted. Getting Uno reversed. You guys have been on this podcast way too much. Legitimately really appreciate all the work you've done. You guys crush it. Thanks for an incredible draft season. For Breach, for Traps, for Josh. I'm Brinson. we will see you guys later