Fantasy Football Today - 2025 Rookie Class Breakdown & Superflex Rookie-Only Mock Draft (Fantasy Football Dynasty 03/04)

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Heath Cummings is joined by Aaron St Denis to break down the 2025 rookie class. They’ll discuss Aaron’s prospect evaluation process, key takeaways from the NFL Combine, and how last year's wide receivers stack up against this year’s crop. Then, they’ll dive into a two-round superflex rookie-only mock draft, with analysis on every pick. Tune in for expert insights to help you crush your upcoming drafts! Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to Fantasy Football Today Dynasty. I am your host Heath Cummings and we have got a great rookie centric show for you today. I brought in, I brought back the Fantasy Football mad scientist Aaron. Thank you for being here today. Thank you for having me. Good morning. Glad to be back. Rookie season. You know that NFL combine gives us something to talk about when there's nothing to talk about for all of us dynasty degenerates who are still paying attention to this. So you, you, you produce content, I think still at a variety of places. Tell everybody where they can find your work and what you've been working on most recently.

Slowly dwindling down, getting more specialized. I'm at a fantasy sports advice network, fantasy pros and player profiler. Do a little bit of everything player profiler. I'm mostly there. The IDP content there, fantasy pros. It's all my rankings. A lot of just weekly sleepers articles and fantasy sports advice network. That's where most of my work is there.

At IDP. I love IDP leagues. I've never, like people ask, can you give us a little bit of, can you produce a little bit of IDP content? And I know what's going to happen if I open that box. So I'm- No one watches it? What's that?

No one watches it. Well, it's not just that, but also I'm going to end up spending way too much time. Like you can't dip your toe. I play in a lot of IDP leagues. I do. I read a lot of IDP content, but you can't dip your toe. I don't feel like into producing that. Like you, just like everything else you've got, there's all so such a learning curve each year with the classes. So I'm glad that you do it. I'm going to look forward to reading what you have to say about this class, this class. And, uh, I'm, I'm going to lean on you guys for that on today's show.

We're going to talk about 20, 25 rookies and the way we're going to do it is basically a two man, two round rookie mock draft would be super flex. Do you want to be tied in premium? Yes or no. You're Cole. Yeah, that's mostly what I play in super flex, tight end premium. We will, uh, that, that makes it, I think it makes it a little easier to go two rounds also before the draft, we can throw some tight ends in there at the end. And yeah, they're going to catch passes. And, but before we do that, of course, we always have three questions for our

guests and these will, these will mostly be about the rookies also Aaron. I want, I want to just start with this more general question, not necessarily about this class, but how would you describe your prospect evaluation process? I do not confuse myself with an NFL scout or a GM. I am not a film buff. I, you know what, Rick Spielman, your, uh, what is that for, uh, with the first pick? I love listening to him. I watched, you know, the film. I see some things, but there's, I don't get, you know, all the little nuances and I'll listen to him and I was like, I didn't even know that. So kind of build a blend his film aspects with my own, uh, basically I'm a spreadsheet warrior. It's I'm the

numbers guy. I'm a number cruncher. I can tell you a ton about fantasy football. My spreadsheet has a mix of their size and physical attributes, college production, some of the combine numbers that I think matter. And basically the most important at the end is draft capital and landing spot. Kind of form it all for one big spreadsheet full of check boxes. And that kind of gives me my rankings from there. And like I said, from there, if I have something that's really glaringly off, I'll consult the experts for film grades, which I am not. And we will have over the next two months, listen, if you've been listening to this show for the last two years, you know, it kind of started during draft season. And I like to bring in a wide variety of guests.

And some people are gonna come on here and they're going to be film experts. And some people are gonna come on here and they're going to be spreadsheet warriors. I've talked about myself. Like I know that in content, this whole aggregator idea gets a bad name right now because of where the direction that's gone.

But I think that is probably how I would describe myself as a prospect analyst, is there are so many really smart people doing good things with both spreadsheets and film. And I just want to consume as much of it as I can. And then I'll put together my rankings, kind of based on that. It's not, it's certainly not a consensus, because there's certain guys that I listen to a little more than others. But I do think that like, there's, if you want to learn about rookies, I don't know if there's ever been a better time. There's so many good people creating great content.

But you said something in that answer that I want to kind of latch on to again. Um, cause you said, do you put a few numbers in there from the combine, the things that you think that matter, what matters? What should people actually care about from the combine? We were talking about this before the show, the combines turning into the NBA all-star game. The guys you want to see don't do the events you want them to do. In the end, it's something to talk about. I look for the outliers basically. Okay, so we had a Bayshall toot was blazing fast. Well, that's great. He's my size.

He better be fast. The big guys are gonna be slow. The little guys are gonna be fast. I don't so much care about that. It's the guys that are outliers that don't make sense. The one for me that stood out was really the only player I crossed off my board. Tez Johnson, too small and too slow.

That's the combination I don't want to see. And even in the past, like we have, you had the, what the, uh, the wonderful combine for Darnell Washington. He was great at the sled drill. Jordan Travis last year could throw the ball a mile. It didn't matter. Did we, and I don't think you said it, but did people say after last year's combine, Bucky Irving too small and

too slow? I don't remember if it was necessarily too small. I know for sure it was, oh, he's dead to me, too small or too slow. And two years before that it was Rashad White. Oh, he was great. He could be the RB3. Oh, nevermind. He's too slow.

And he was right off the board. So maybe the moral of the story is if your running back runs too slow at the combine, pray Tampa Bay drafts. And then I want to talk like we're gonna as we go through this, like yes, we're going to do a mock draft. But if we just did the mock draft and nothing else, we'd be done in 15 minutes, we're going to talk about a lot of these players, we'll kind of talk about the different nuances of this class as a whole. One of the first ones that I will bring up is that when I look at the class, the position where it feels the weakest to me

relative to the last five or six years is wide receiver. I wonder how many wide receivers from last year's class would be the number one wide receiver in this class? I haven't answered for you for that, but I did have one last thing there for you, what matters for the combine. You know, what was the most interesting to me? I had a tweet here from Austin Abbott, FF from Player Profiler.

Some of the, the rumors not, you know, you get it during the off season, just the training camp rumors. I don't want the one and done. I want the one that just keeps coming up. And some of those were the best. Like we discussed it, Matthew Golden, apparently is going to be the first wide receiver off the board. That's what I want to know because it doesn't matter to me what happened at the combine. I want to know what the GMs who are actually drafting these players think. It doesn't matter

what I think, what they think matters. And I think like first off, that's a good kind of segue because what wide receivers from last year's class would you prefer to Matthew Golden? I think it's going to be up as maybe a kind of a long list, but in regards to that, I think what the way Sigmund Bloom says it is the drum beat. What's like when it's the drum beat of repeated things, then we'll, then we'll listen to that a little bit better. Um, so back to the question, how many wide receivers from last year's class? Okay. Going into the season, I would have said Marvin Harrison, Jr. Malik

neighbors. So two after the season now, I still have to, but it's Brian Thomas Jr. Malik neighbors. Those are my top two. So you would, who is your number one wide receiver right now? I'll just ask you. I've got tech Macmillan and Luther burden back to back. So I would have had, I think I had mine ranked here as if it was a top six between the two classes blended. I have neighbors BTJ, Ted McMillan, Luther Burden, Emeka Egbuka, and then Lad McConkie. If we had kept going, I would have gone Matthew Gold and Marvin Harrison Jr., who I am currently a lot lower on than everybody else, but he looked really slow and not very dynamic,

not a great separator as a rookie. I mean, I don't want to quit on him after one year, but I have a lot lower than most. Okay. Let's take our first break and we'll jump into our mock draft. Awesome. So we are back and we are going to do basically 24 picks and I'm going to keep track of this if I can, um, while we go and just kind of

some observations, but we're going to go super flex, we're going to go tight in premium and of course, because you're the guest, I'm going to give you the first pick. It's a mystery. Who could you want? If you, okay. The first pick isn't going to surprise anyone. But if you give me the first pick moving forward, you may get me booed right off the show. My mock draft is not going to be the same as you.

I'm going to have the quarterbacks lower, the tight ends higher. And where I have Travis Hunter is going to shock you. So be prepared. I'm going to start non-controversial and go obviously Ashton Genti, but from here it gets interesting. And it like that in itself is a little bit interesting. And I wonder if you think, um, this will remain the consensus. It's really, really kind of strange for a running back in a super flex

rookie draft to be the shake sure fire. Everybody agrees. Number one pick, right? Well, we did it with Bijon Robinson. I guess so. Yeah, I get it. Typically I always want the quarterback, which you're going to see. I don't want the quarterback this year, but just, I don't have as much

faith in this year's quarterbacks. And I like a couple of players here. Like that was going to be my first shocker. I'm going to pick at one in three and I'll tell you what neither one of them is going to be a quarterback. Well it's not well part of the reason it's not going to be a quarterback is because I will stick with the crowd a little bit. I'm going to take Cam Ward at 102. I feel pretty confident that he's going to be a I mean he should be the number one pick maybe he'll go to two or three but I

expect somebody's gonna trade up and take him at 101 if Tennessee doesn't want to. And that's going to mean that he's going to get two years as a starter and he has some fantasy upside. I am disenchanted with the class, but I do think I'm more disenchanted with the wide receivers than I am the quarterbacks, at least when it comes with war,

that there's a clear 101 for me. What scares me is the drumbeat that the one on one he goes to could be a New York team and I don't mean Buffalo jets or giants. That's, I don't really want that. And like I said, there are three players for me, cam ward. That's the first shocker. I have him at four. I would go Gentie and then I'm going to take tech Macmillan here as my, what are we? 103. I would have also taken Bird and over Ward. So you talked about having Macmillan

and Luther Bird and back to back. Golden may enter that conversation if he's actually the first wide receiver taken. I don't actually believe that's going to happen yet, but if it does, then maybe Golden enters that conversation. Is there, I mean, are you basically flipping a coin or is there something for you that really separates Tet Macmillan from Luther Berg?

Size for Tet Macmillan and projected draft capital. I think Tet goes top 12. I think Luther also goes first round, but at this point they might be the wide receiver two and three off the board if you believe that Matthew Golden hype. But for me, it's that's what it is. It's size and projected draft capital. If burden goes first significantly higher, maybe I'll have to revisit this, but for now it's tech. Okay. Yeah. I think, um, I, I am basically at flip a coin stage right now.

And if the projected draft capital is right, then I will agree that we've got Ted. Um, Ted should be the number one. I will go back to running back and I'll ask you this question. I know like Amari and Hampton had a fantastic weekend and I think that's gonna push him maybe up a high Trevion Henderson in a lot of people's rankings. I'm going to take Henderson here. He was my second favorite running back in the class coming into the combine and I really feel like in a, in a PPR world, he could be like, no, we'll just say the name because somebody else has already said on the show, he

could be Jameer Gibbs light, or maybe he's just producing like Jameer Gibbs, if he lands in the right situation. So I will take Henderson, but this is two of the first four picks are running backs. I think we're getting four in the first round and it's possible we get five or six, not the NFL draft first round, but first round of rookie drafts. Last year we had zero. Is that just a product of this? Do you agree that this isn't like an elite running back class and a little weaker class at wide receiver? Yeah, I well quarterback class is weaker too. I have four in the first round of rookie drafts as well.

If you want to believe the combine drum beat there could be three of them in the first round of the NFL draft because I had Henderson at two. I also had Hampton as my RB three off the board all above Schitter Sanders. So like I said I'm way lower on the QBs in this class. So we've got two running backs off the board. We've got Cam Ward off the board. We know you're not taking Schuher Sanders. Is it Luther burden time with the sixth pick? It absolutely is.

But like I said, I still, I had QBs at four and eight here. So I am, you know, everyone thinks I'm crazy. I'm significantly lower on the quarterbacks. I put Cam Ward as the absolute,, I think is the absolute lowest. I could have put him without people calling me absolutely out of my mind. But if you, if I was on the clock and I wasn't QB absolutely desperate, I could have made a case for Booker Hampton or Henderson, but in the end, like I said, I left him at four because I didn't want to get too spicy.

Yeah. I'm going to kind of lean into this running back idea with my team. And it's a tough, I think, tier of at least three. We'll talk about Travis Hunter probably a little bit later in the show. Could be four because if Travis Hunter goes second or third overall, and the team says we're playing him 100% of the time at wide receiver, it's going to be a really interesting conversation. But let's forget about that for now.

I'm going to go with Hampton who did kind of, I had it basically, I think, before the combine of Ashton Gentry is in a tier of his own. And then for me, Henderson was in a tier of his own. And then there were four more running backs that I thought had a chance to go first round of rookie drafts. And Hampton was kind of at the top of that. Hampton's fantastic performance over the weekend moves him into Henderson's tier for me. So I still feel pretty good. I'm probably not looking to trade down if I've got this pick because we're getting pretty close to the end of a tier. No, I agree.

You're right in sync with me as far as running back ranking so far. So you had three I had in the exact same order. So, so go ahead. Oh, no, I was gonna say next. I'm taking a Bucca from Ohio State. He's probably the first of the second tier. I don't quite think he's in the same tier as Tet or Burden. I think right now I have Egbuka and who do we have?

Matthew Golden and possibly Trey Harris. And then from there, I think we're falling off a cliff if you believe in Trey Harris. So I wonder when you look at the wide receivers here at the top. Um, and I talked about this a couple of weeks ago that like, I don't really have any concerns about Tet Macmillan, except if you are looking at the archetype of the wide receivers who have busted, they look a lot like Tet Macmillan. They are, it's the, it's the big, supposed to be the new Calvin

Johnson, who is actually just a bust. And I think there's every reason to wonder, like with Luther Burton, to draft him in round one or to draft him this early in a rookie draft, you really have to believe that Missouri underused him and that he has many more skills available to him than what they were able to show due to their quarterback play. Is it possible that Egbuka is actually, well maybe doesn't have the upside of those two, is actually the safest of these three rookie wide receivers? He's the most likely to be good? That's the exact thing I was going to say. I think he's the most likely to be good.

He's the safest. Ted McMillan, you said it perfectly. He's either going to be basically a Hall of Famer or he's going to be out of the league in three years. It's there seems to be no in between for this archetype. They are either awesome, or they're just they're terrible. There's no in between. Egg Booker, like you said, lower, lower ceiling, I think, but overall pretty solid. It's tough to really gauge some of these Ohio State wide receivers. There's been like five of them in five years.

And every year we say the one that's coming out is the best of the five. And at this point, I don't know who the best of the five is. Is this possible with Garrett Wilson, JSN? I don't know. Yeah, no. So we've got the first eight picks now. Ashton Gentry, Cam Ward, Tet McMillan, Trevion Henderson, Luther Burden, Marian Hampton, Bukka and Shadour Sanders will be the eighth pick. I don't want to

make Aaron draft a quarterback. You're my guest. Thank you for being here. I will take Shadour Sanders. Remember, we are tight end premiums. we might be moving into that tight end range very, very shortly, depending on which one of those you like the most. Is this the point? Like these eight players are gone. Are you happy to trade your first round pick for a 20, 26 first and just hope it's better? No, either Sanders would have been my pick at eight, but I'm still very content with

if I have nine, 10 or even 11, I'd really like Tyler Warren is going to be my pick here. I'm very happy with that. Matt 10, I think is where it gets dicey. If Matthew golden goes higher than expected, I'd also be willing to, you know, to get in on him. Same can be said with Quinchun Judkins out of Ohio state. If those two don't make it into high round two, then probably I'd be looking to sell my 10, 11 or 12, but if they go higher, I'd be happy with, like I said, Warren, who I'm taking here or possibly golden or junket Jenkins. So one name you didn't mention, we've got a question from the chat. And we like to answer those.

We can is Caleb Johnson up there. He, he didn't necessarily have a great weekend. He was one of those four backs in the tier with Hampton and Devin Neil and Judkins that I thought could jump into the first round of rookie drafts, depending on what happens in the NFL draft. Is he, is he falling for you or is he just a clear second round pick? Well, I had Gentie as the obvious tier one for running back. Then Hampton Henderson.

My tier three is actually Judkins, Devin Neal, Caleb Johnson with Ollie Gordon. I didn't like his combine. He's slowly falling out of there, but yeah, he, he, if you look, actually, if you could see my board, they are Neal and Caleb Johnson are the first two picks I have of the second round. So I, if the, if the tight ends had like, there probably could have been a tight end that really excited me and caused me to pick them here right now, but I'm actually going

to take a wide receiver. I think Matthew Golden, um, probably earned a first round selection. And I did like the profile a little bit more than most coming into the combine. And so if I get to the end of round one, assuming he's a late first round pick, I'm going to feel pretty good about it. Yeah, absolutely. There are two more tight ends I actually still love. So you'll see when I get to my round two of the board, it's all running backs and tight ends and we'll forget wide receivers of position.

So it tells you how quickly it falls off. So I think you've got the last wide receiver I'd really be clamoring for in Matthew Golden. So we are heading into the last two picks of round one. Who should finish out this draft? All right, I have Crenshawon Judkins higher on my board. Don't think I've taken a quarterback yet. So maybe I'll get a little spicy.

I like Jackson Dart here. I think he's closer to Chidurr than Chidurr is to Cam Ward, honestly. So I'm going to take Jackson Dart as my 11 and pass on the running back here. So there's three of them in a tier. When you say that about like talent wise, I could see that it seems like the way people are talking about the way they're going to be drafted though.

Like if Shador is a top five pick and Jackson Dart goes at the end of round one or round two, is he still closer? Another one of maybe me over by over believing believing the hype of the combine is from what I hear, Chauder seems to be closer to the 10 to 12 range. And Jackson Dart, like you said, is probably going to push. I think he's going to end up second high second round. I'd love it if he went day one. Like I said, it's not necessarily that I think Dart is better than Sanders. It's that I'm getting him three picks later. Sanders was available here. I'm taking Jackson Dart, but he's not available. So Dart's, I think, the solid QB3 for me off the board.

So you did a little table talk earlier in the draft and talked about taking some tight ends with your second round pick. And so that's probably going to influence my decision here. There was a lot this past weekend at the combine of, um, well, it wasn't good, but it wasn't so bad that I have to be out on him, which was exactly how I felt about Harold Fanon. Um, I didn't really like it, but it's not that awful. Um, I, I don't think you it, but it's not that awful. I don't think you can overvalue his production and assuming the right team takes him

and plays him in the right role, I think he could absolutely be the best fantasy producing tight end in this class. He's not gonna win near as many reps as a running blocker as Warren is, but I do really like fan in this game. And so I will take him at the 112 and Titan premiums. I essentially had fan in tied with Colston Loveland and between

kind of a bad combine for fan in and my absolute love for the Michigan Wolverines. I have Colston Loveland slightly higher, admitted Homer bias there. So I can see you going with Fannin though. Listen, no one can understand admitted Homer bias than the guy with my current background. It's absolutely okay. Let's take our second break

and then we'll get to round two of the rookie draft. All right, we're back. It's round two. Is it time to take Colston Loveland? No, it's time to take one of the three running backs I had. And this is where I find maybe, you know, if you haven't, if you could trade up to get an early second round pick. Cause I think these three, like I said, Judkins, Neil and Caleb Johnson are all

probably in the same range for me. Think I want to go Judkins here, even though it's an Ohio state player. So I try not to do it, but I'll take Judkins. Neil was a close second for me. Yeah. Judkins would have absolutely been my pick there. Um, I, I'll tell you what the thing that I've recognized is if we're in a tight end premium super flex draft, I am going to go make some trades for early round two picks.

I really like, and I know, I mean, obviously my, the sense I'm getting since you said you had a hot take about Travis Hunter and he's still on the board is that you're not going to be very high on Travis Hunter, but the idea that we could be an early round two and I am choosing between Colston Loveland and still two running backs that I think are borderline round one guys and Travis Hunter. That's really exciting to me. I'm going to go see if I can get some 201 through 204 type picks.

Right now I think I will go ahead because it is tight end premium. No, I can't do it. I'm taking Caleb Johnson. Do you keep mentioning Travis Hunter to try and make an IDP guy's head explode? Is that what you're doing here? Because you are an IDP guy, I want to bounce my thoughts about Travis Hunter off of you. I am making it clear to my league, the One Dynasty IDP League that I am the commissioner of, that I am going to do everything in my power to make sure

that Travis Hunter gets fantasy points for what he does on offense and defense. That's the problem. I have messaged up several of these sleepers one and haven't gotten a definitive response. In an IDP League, if I can get points simultaneously as a quarterback and a wide receiver, he is the most valuable player in possibly all of fantasy football in an IDP league. If you don't, and you can only pick one or the other, I don't want him. Like in this draft here, offense only with the assumption, I think he's going to be a quarterback. I don't have him in my top two. He is my third pick of round three behind Isaiah Bond. I just, I think he's a cornerback at this point. The argument for him being a wide receiver seems to be he could make more money if he's high end. I don't think he's going to be a high end wide receiver. I think he could be the best cornerback in the game. I think what he's going to be an elite shutdown corner who plays maybe 15% of the snaps at wide receiver. And I don't want to use the

second round pick on that. I could be absolutely wrong. He could just go after the money, become a wide receiver. But he, I could talk to you about Travis Hunter for hours. He's single-handedly making my head explode this off season. It's so frustrating because it's like when Taysom Hill started being the tight end who played quarterback. Well, I'll go back further than that because I was a fantasy baseball guy when Shohei Otani came to the league. And like we had fights and yelling matches

about how we should, I think one site made him two players and one site said, you can only have this or this. Um, and I was always like, you know what, if he's the most valuable player in the game, why don't we just make him the most valuable player in fancy? Like, how about we just let him have all of the stats? He's either the most valuable fantasy football asset in an IDP league or he's useless in an IDP league. There's I'm not sure.

I, like I said, it's going to be, this is going to be one, you're going to have people yelling and screaming. But you, like we had a question in the chat about where he would rank in that type of league. He's in the conversation for 101. Okay. If, if, if, if you're getting credit for all of his stats. If you're getting credit for all of his stats, 100%, I don't think he's, oh, super flex.

He's in the conversation. Single QB. I don't think he's super flex. He's in the conversation. Single QB. I don't think he is the conversation. He's your one. Okay. Okay. So I just took, we had a couple running backs to start round two, Quintchon Judkins, we had Caleb Johnson and you are on the clock with the 15th pick of the draft and I still feel pretty good about it. Yeah. Yeah. I like these early about maybe to the middle of the second rounder. I still like it and I'm going to go Colston Loveland. Like I said, I had him kind of even with fan and as far as tight end. So I want to take the last what I think is usable tight

end on the board. I have one more as a deep dart throw. Do you remember when Luke Lachey was good when he first started? You remember him at Iowa? Yeah, vaguely. Yeah, I still am holding out hope that maybe he can fight through the injuries and be something as a last round dart throw. But I think it's three tight ends here. So I took Loveland and it's basically running backs. You've made my my choice really easy. I love Devin Neal.

I love his big play ability. I'm still pretty interested in Travis Hunter, especially at this point in the draft. I know you're not going to take Travis Hunter. So I'm going to take Devin Neal. That's cheating. This is why you don't table talk in the middle of the draft guys.

Because the other guy uses it against you. I'm just, I'm trying to get some content here and he's using it against me. Do you think Devin Neal is like um, I mean, maybe the lesser version, but maybe he's not, is he like, uh, kind of a Ken Walker, home run hitter, maybe even a drug Deandre Swift who could frustrate a coaching staff because he doesn't always get the three yards he was supposed to, but it has a bunch of big plays. I don't know my comp form.

I don't know if you're going to love it or hate it. I had him as Tai-Jay Spears with a little more upside. Okay. I don't like that as much as Ken Walker. I don't know if you love him or hate him. That doesn't sound near as good as Ken Walker. Well, no. I guess maybe the ceiling is Ken Walker and the floor is Tai-Jay Spears.

Sounds great. Okay, I'll take that. All right, that puts me on the clock in kind of no man's land where I really start to not like as many. Take Trey Harris here, I guess. I don't love it. It's probably the last receiver that's this high up my board. It was either him or Ollie Gordon. I know I shouldn't table talk again, but Trey Harrison is. Yeah. And he was very popular at the senior bowl. Is that right? Yes. Yes, very much. He was kind of the darling there, but wasn't all that fast. He's got decent size. It's good catching, good ball tracking. He's very physical, but he's just, he's not the most refined.

He lacks some explosiveness. His roots are sorry. My, my child broke my computer chair and I get shorter as it goes on. I love that. That's absolutely I don't, I'm already short. Yeah. Well, I mean, obviously I'm cheating, but the sixth pick of round two, the latest that Travis Hunter will be taken in any mock draft, this entire,

unless I guess if you do a one man mock, then he will go later than this. But I I've not seen him go any later than 18th overall Travis Hunter. If, so I, I'll ask this question, try to frame it to where you have to say something positive about Travis Hunter. Like you think he's awesome at football, right? No, yeah, he's really awesome at football. So let's hypothetically, Travis Hunter falls to seven or eight and he's drafted. And they say, you know what? We're going to try to let him do what he wants to do and play both ways.

We're going to try to let him be a full-time player. The reason he fell a little bit is because he wouldn't agree to not be a full-time player both ways. Travis Hunter is going to be a full-time wide receiver. Is this a steal? If he's a full-time wide receiver, it is. So we're assuming in that scenario, he's not playing corner at all?

No, no, they're gonna let him do what he says he wants to do. He's gonna try to play both. Okay, so if he is a full time wide receiver in offense only leagues, he's a steal. He should be much higher. He's probably in the top four or five for me. In IDP leagues, he could be the one of the, there's plenty of scenarios where I love him

and think he's a surefire 101. I just don't love his current scenario. Right. I get that value wise if you can double count stats for him, that's great. It's also double the injury risk and we're already playing dodge the injury for fantasy football all year. So in a league like we're, we're drafting for right now, it's just offense only. Um, would you, is it fair to say that his value could literally be the best wide receiver in the class if everything goes right or fantasy irrelevant and droppable if everything goes wrong? Absolutely. Like he, yeah, he could be the, he, if he's only a wide receiver,

he's a first round pick. He shouldn't be going, where are we? Middle of the second round? Yeah. He, he's got the wide receiver one potential in this class. It's just there's too much uncertainty and too many concerns. But like I said, you don't have to convince me to say good things. I think he's a 101 overall potentially in the right, you know, the right scoring format. All right. So the first six picks of round two are Judkins, Johnson, and Loveland followed by Neil Harris and Hunter. I shouldn't be using just last names.

We're not that familiar with these guys yet. Are we listeners? Quinshawn Judkins goes first pick of round two, then Caleb Johnson, the running back Colston Loveland, the tight end, Devin Neil, the running back, Trey Harris at wide receiver, Travis Hunter at, um, can we just put them at athletes for now is his position. Um, we have six picks left and now I'll just be honest with you guys who are listening with Aaron, who's here with me. This is the point to where like, I've kind of feel like

I've gotten to in my rookie research. And this is the point where I'm like, I've kind of feel like I've gotten to in my rookie research. And this is the point where I'm like, I am really not sure there are any good players left. I should probably just draft running backs. This is the point where I find they are all heavily flawed and they all do maybe one good thing. He's not going to be my pick here. And he wouldn't have even been in consideration in the second round, but after the combine, at what point are you starting to consider Basial to, is he, is he up here in your consideration right now, just based off of that blazing fast 40 time, or have you not bought into that, you know, the combine

idea? I think I'm probably going to need the NFL to show me like, I still feel like he's probably a day three pick. And maybe a late day three pick. So I don't think he would get into my round two unless he gets like he's a fourth round pick or something. Cause I think there's probably, I mean, how many running backs you talked about, there could be three in round one of this draft. talked about there could be three in round one of this draft. Yeah.

I think there could be six in the first two days, maybe five. Um, but by the end of round five, there might be 15 running backs drafted. There are a ton of them, but you never know though. That's the problem. Does the overwhelming buyer's market for rookie running backs lead them all to fall instead of you get Ashton Genti in the first round and then maybe everyone overwhelming buyer's market for rookie running backs, lead them all to fall. Instead, you get Ashton Gentey in the first round and then maybe everyone passes until round three. And instead of five day two running backs,

we have two, just because there's so many of them. Right. It's really an odd place to be. We're not used to having a plentiful running back class. No. This is odd. I don't know what to do. Well, what you can do right now is make the 19th pick of the draft.

Going back to, I guess, another one of the running backs here, we'll go Olly Gordon at Oklahoma State. I hate you. Yeah, that's definitely who I would have taken there. I'm going to take a big swing for the fences here and you can laugh at me, uh, later, but I'm going to go with Jalen Milro. That's who's next on my board. So I'm not laughing. No laughing. Then I don't like, I don't actually believe that he's probably going to work

out, but the upside is too high just in case in a super flex league, where we're also talking about his rushing upside. So Jaylen Milrow is the 20th pick of the draft and we've got, this is awesome. We're now getting, if Hunter plays 75-25 split, where should he be picked? Like we're just going to do all of the different potential options for him. I would say 75, 25 split means that he should be picked in the round three. I was going to say, do you want to, do you want him over Ollie Gordon fan and any of the guys we've taken knowing he's going to play one out of four snaps on

offense? I don't know. I agree. Uh, that puts me back on the board, doesn't it? Yes. Wow, are we in no man's land here. You've taken the last of the quarterbacks I really want outside of the dart throws.

I like Isaiah Bond here. He's lightning quick. I just don't know if I like anything else about him. I guess I'm going to buy into that and hope maybe it's an Xavier worthy type speed demon scenario here. So Isaiah Bond is my guy. Well, yeah, I was going to say like, he's not actually as fast as he acts like he is, but I do like the bravado.

Like you need that at the, uh, you need that as a wide receiver position. You need to believe you're faster than everyone else and no one can cover you. And I think, I think I will go back to the tight end position and go with Mason Taylor, just hoping that in a tight end premium league, he can evolve into somebody who becomes a starter at the position and matters in fantasy football. It's a low bar, but this is like, I was one, I w I know we agree on who the top three tight ends are, but do you like this class outside? Is it a deep class also, or is it just a very good top three?

It's a very good top three. Aside from that, I said, I think there was a dart throw and Luke Lachey. I'm trying to, I'm scrolling up to my tight end rankings here. I didn't really have anyone with all that much interest for me. It's basically the three of them. Unless someone really gets higher draft capital than expected, I don't have any of them in the top three rounds. You are on the clock. What we have? We have two picks left.

I believe two each. And that was someone in the chat said it. Cam Scadabow was my next pick. Going back to the running back well again. Kind of slow. Has it mattered in the past, I guess. So he's a bigger back. I typically find, I know the 40 time condemns some running backs,

they die quick deaths here. He only ran a four, six, two. I find with running backs that are over 200 pounds, I don't so much care how fast they are. He's going to be a 215 pound back, 5'11", just under six feet tall. He's a pretty big back, so I don't so much care that he's not the fastest. No, I think that was a really good pick and kind of the name that was left. I'm going to ask you after I make the last pick, if there's anybody out there that we didn't draft that maybe we're going to get excited about. I'll take DJ Giddens, the running back out of Kansas state, just another running back from the class that maybe has 20 of them that should would have been drafted

last year. Um, are there any sleepers, um, anybody that you're hoping like becomes a thing by the NFL draft? Uh, I've still got, if you go, I could probably almost go another full round, just a three or four at each position that good draft capital or a landing spot could help out. I've still got three quarterbacks I'd like to see. Will Howard, Quinn Ewers, Dylan Gabriel,

tight end, I said, Luke Lachey. As far as running backs go, the only ones I had really were Dylan Sampson, to Tuten, if he gets drafted higher than we thought, right? Being in Martinez, rocket Sanders and Donovan Edwards, the rocket. I mean, how do you how can you not like rocket Sanders? Yeah, yeah, that's that if your name is if your nickname is rocket, you better be the best guy there. Yeah, he wasn't actually fast. Yeah.

Titan or Titan wide receivers here is really where, like I said, I had Ted Johnson on the board. He's small, he's slow. That wasn't a great combination. Other than that, I had Jalen Royals, Alec Ayamunor and Jaden Higgins. So like I said, I've probably got enough to go three rounds, but the third round is basically speculative guys only that I'm just holding out a hope and a prayer for. I think I feel like the middle of the second round is kind of where we started throwing darts here. You guys are really

warming Thomas's heart in the chat with your complaints about no draft board. And I hear you, I tell you what I'm going to do. As soon as we get done with this show, well, first I'm going to eat some lunch. But then after that, I'm going to go do a short write-up of this two-man mock draft. And there will be a full listing of all the players with positions and with what college team they played on. Because I'm not sure that all you guys are, are quite as up on that quite yet. We're going to know it really well

in the next couple of months. And Jordan, we, we did kind of talk about ranking this year's wide receiver class with last year's wide receiver class at the top of the show. Aaron said that the only two wide receivers from last year's class that would be wide receiver one in this year's class are Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. He also kind of ranked his top six. So you just

rewind you'll hear that earlier in the show. Aaron, thank you so much for being here. Would you tell everybody what you've got coming up next? A whole lot of rookie profiles and content over at Fantasy Sports Advice Network. Got some multiverse articles we're calling them, kind of each NFL team with three potential scenarios of different levels of out there. Just to kind of, it's a fancy spin on the team previews. Other than that, I've got some IDP combine content over at Player Profiler, and basically just some rankings in that

for the off season at Fantasy Pros. It's kind of rookie season right now. Starting to gear up a bit for free agency, but nothing too fancy so far. Well, I thank you for being here. It's always good talking to you. We'll do it again soon. Thank you to everybody who was active in the chat. This will be up in podcast form a little bit later

today. And then of course, I will have the mock draft results available on the site, hopefully before the day is over. We will talk to you on Friday. Paramount Podcasts.