Fantasy Football Today - 2025 Top 12 QBs and Wild Card Weekend Preview! (01/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Please vote for Fantasy Football Today here: https://www.sportspodcastgroup.com/sports_category/fantasy-betting-gaming-sports-podcast/ Get ready to set some DFS lineups as we have six games to look forward to this weekend! First, we'll go through the news and notes (6:15) and then give you our Top 12 quarterbacks for 2025. Is it Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen at the top (9:30)? How do we rank Joe Burrow, Jayden Daniels and Jalen Hurts (12:30)? ... We rank QBs 6-8 (21:30) with Patrick Mahomes being a tricky one to rank. Then we reveal QBs 9-10 (28:15) which has basically no consensus among the analysts. Does Sam Darnold belong here? Brock Purdy? Justin Herbert? Finally, QBs 11-12 (32:00) ... A full weekend preview (36:50)! Players we like, players we might avoid, best values at each position and DFS lineups (48:30) to consider. We also pick each game (51:45) at the end of the show. Are there any upsets on the board? ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Let's preview some games. Wild Card weekend is just around the corner and college football too. A lot of great football action coming your way. Although to be honest with you, spoiler alert, Wild Card Weekend, a lot of bad games usually, but not this week.

This year it's gonna be great, every game. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, presented by Bet MGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Adam, Dave and Jamie here. Breaking down the slate, we'll give you some DFS advice. We'll also give you our top 12 quarterbacks for 2025. This list is set in stone. It will not change.

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What could we do to incentivize people to vote for us at this point in the year? Adam Shaves his eyebrows of wooing. It's always Shaves. I like back. We have to submit episodes for this award. His other award thing. And you don't have to vote for people. Don't worry.

And I went back. I listened to the one where we were going to make a Miami UF bet. And Jamie's like, we're going to shave our heads. You just love to shave. Jamie is always down to shave something. Um, I have a, well, first off, you mentioned the top 12 quarterbacks. We already talked about the top 25. I'm star first round. Uh, all those stories will be on the site.

The quarterbacks is already up. Uh, running backs already up our top 12 running backs already up. Uh, receivers will be done today. Tight ends maybe today as well. Uh, so you can see all that at CBS sports.comcom. I have a question for you guys because I had a very embarrassing moment this morning. So my 12 year old was late for middle school or we were going to be late for middle school and we literally lived two minutes from the school. So I said to him because he didn't, he was late waking up

and I said do you want to eat something? No, in the car, whatever. So I see we're going to be late. We passed the Dunkin' Donuts. So I said, you're going to be late. Let me just get you food anyway. So we drive through Dunkin' Donuts. I realize as I'm about at the drive-through, I

don't have my wallet. So I go there all the time. I said, oh, I'm so sorry. Can I just come back and pay you quickly? She goes, do you have AlbaFest? No, we usually have money on the app, whatever. So she's like, sure, no problem.

I was so embarrassed. They let you buy on credit. Wow, what's embarrassing is that you go there enough that they did let you buy on credit. Oh, it's Jamie Eisenberg from CBC. He's here all the time. He always gets the double. So I gave her.

He gave her. Sure. Come back later. I gave her all the chains that I had. Oh, I said, I'll give you a down payment. Oh my gosh. And so I said, I'll be back in 15 minutes. Well, obviously I went back, I paid.

Well, I would hope. Couldn't be nicer, but just so I could never leave the house. I thought you were about to say they wouldn't let you pay and you thought that that was dumb. And then we go back to the fantasy cops discussion that we had. I think it would have been, it would have been if I was by myself. Oh, I don't know. I said, I'm just trying to get him food for school.

Can you help me out? That's very nice of them. It's really, really nice of them, which means you're really, really nice to them when you go and visit. So that's a testimonial to you. Also great to see it runs in the family that Ronan runs late.

By the way, how do you not have Apple Pay? I'm old man. No, you should set that up. It's very easy and this is perfect for these scenarios. In fact, you don't ever have to bring your wallet in. If you if I leave my wallet in the car a lot and then I leave

and then I forget about it and then someone takes that car or my wife with like take that car and I'll be without a wallet. So that's the bad side of Apple Pay if you're me. And also you yesterday, by the way, speaking of annoyances, are we going to do a Playoff Challenge League?

So I spent some time this morning setting one up for you and got two nos and you, I'm indifferent. I said, are you gonna set one up? You said yes and then you said, does anybody wanna do it? I said, I said, are you going to set one up? You said yes. And then you said, does anybody want to do it? I said, I'll do it if people want to do it. If not, I didn't do anything wrong. I'm not, I'm not taking any blame for this.

Okay. I did it just for you. I'm already in three playoff channels. I don't need another one. Yeah, I don't either. All right. So what does Schneier say? Schneier said, he's indifferent to you.

He agreed with me. He's indifferent. Oh, he agreed with me actually. Here are your news and notes. The Rams Buccaneers game could be moved to Arizona. And we want to send our thoughts out to everybody. Vikings. Sorry. Yeah. Vikings Rams game could be moved to Arizona.

And we get now we want to send our thoughts out to everyone in Los Angeles. I know. Look, most people know someone who lives in Los Angeles, right? And we know people who are affected by this. So it's just awful. And I'm hoping for the best for everybody. I'm so sorry, but for everything that you're going through. Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love, both making progress. Jalen Hurts still in the concussion protocol,

but as I said yesterday, optimism that he'll be able to play this weekend. And Jordan Love still has elbow soreness, but we expect him to play. And backup quarterback Malik Willis has a hand injury. Don't know if he'll be able to play this weekend. And Jordan love still has elbow soreness, but we expect him to play and backup quarterback Malik Willis has a hand injury. Don't know if he'll be able to play. Zay Flowers is unlikely to play. We saw a big spike in targets from Rashad Bateman. Rashad Bateman had eight targets last week. He had eight targets three times this season. He caught a touchdown in all three games. He'll play Pittsburgh this week.

Mark Andrews also had a spike in targets last week. So this is very relevant for DFS, of course. Gus Edwards was limited. Quentin Johnston mispracticed with an illness and a thigh injury. I think we expect Johnston to go, but not necessarily Josh Palmer. And last week, huge jump in targets for Quentin Johnston with Palmer getting hurt. Tampa Bay could have safety Antoine Winfield back and Titan K. Dotton. They're facing Washington. And oh, we are probably going to get Marshawn Latimore versus Mike Evans. Isn't that cool, Dave? It is.

It means you can't use Mike Evans in DFS. It probably means that, right? I don't think it's cool, by the way. I think it'll be interesting, and it probably means that Mike Evans won't have a big game. I think it's pretty cool to see if Latimore can contain him. I mean, the one other thing is the last time

we saw Marshawn Latimore play, he was like a vending machine for penalties. He was. You throw the ball near him, out comes a yellow flag in your favor. And I went back and I watched, you're talking about the game against the Eagles? Mm-hmm.

I went back and I watched him shadowing A.J. Brown and he started off horribly against A.J. Brown. He just got crushed. But he actually started playing a lot better. No, he was grabbing and holding the entire time. Okay, but that's, you know what? That doesn't help my fantasy stats. Well, that is 100% true.

But to say that he played better, he had a terrible game. I watched the tape. As the game went on, I will stand by that. But to say that he played better, he had a terrible game. I watched the tape. As the game went on, I will stand by that. He played better because he started off awful against AJ Brown. He did better. It's a tough task shadowing AJ Brown.

It also was without Jalen Hurts. Keep that in mind, too. That is definitely true. And San Francisco working to extend Brock Purdy. And they say they're going to bring back Debo Samuel. Pretty interesting. And they also might get back Debo Samuel. Pretty interesting. And they also might get Robert Sala to coordinate their defense.

Makes sense, right? Yeah. And they're gonna release Javon Hargrave. Okay, and all right, well, that's fine with the notes. Okay, if you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, please do so and use the bonus code fantasy. And when you sign up, you're gonna get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with bet MGM.

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Okay, I went with Josh Allen. Do you want anybody else's but ours cuz I'll cue it up not really Unless you see something crazy. Unless you do, is there anybody that put like Daniels or Burrow or Hertz or Moll? I can just tell you the number one split. So give me the ones and twos. Is everybody Allen, Jackson in some order? Everybody's Allen Jackson.

Jackson. So Jackson for me, Jackson for Dave, Alan for Heath, Alan for you, Jackson for Dan and Jackson for Jacob. Those are the only people we have ranked. And everybody's one too in that, in that, those two guys. All right. Well, give me 10 seconds on why you went with Jackson. I'll just say for me, it's just the consistency. I think it's five straight years being an elite quarterback for Josh Allen. And you know, unfortunately, his per game averages are hurt by playing one snap. So I'm not even counting that. Yeah, throw it out. But yeah, it just just every single year. He's this good. Okay, why Dave for you 10 seconds on Jackson? Just because he

showed that he improved as a passer. He's coming off of a year where he had career highs and attempts, completions, yards, touchdowns, yards per attempt, A-dot and sack rate. He's playing at a super high level. I expect the receiving court to get even better. And I think he can challenge Shosh Allen and that consecutive streak that Allen's put together? I think Allen's hit the point where most quarterbacks get to, and I don't think Lamar Jackson will ever get there of the running is slowing down a little bit. And he's still getting the rushing touchdowns. Lamar Jackson is the first quarterback ever with 4,800.

And I don't know if that is, you know, barring injury is something that will change. Like he's got that in his bag every time he wants to do it. He can throw for over 4000 yards. He could rush for over 900 yards and he certainly has 40 touchdown potential. Certainly 40 total touchdown potential. So while he doesn't get the same rushing touchdowns as Josh Allen, I think we'll see Allen continue to sort of scale back how much he runs and Lamar Jackson continue to be

at that same plane. I just want to give you a Josh Allen stat for DFS for later. You know what, actually I'm going to take some time and actually calculate the fantasy points because I don't have playoff fantasy points, but Josh Allen in the Buffalo home playoff opener, four years in a row is unbelievable. So I'll give you that those numbers when I calculate the actual fantasy points.

I think he actually will have to be in this game. Just based on how Denver plays like this could be a game where he runs a lot. Yeah. Alright, so if one and two are Alan and Jackson in some order are three, four, and five Burrow, Hertz, Daniels for everyone? In some order, yes. Yeah, let's see if anybody was different. Just try to talk into the mic when you do that. We lose you. Yeah, sorry. I don't need to look at Dave's. Heath was Alan Jackson, Hertz, Daniels, Burrow. Dan was, yep, same.

And Jacob, same. Okay. So we have a consensus top five in different orders. But for me it was Burrow, Hertz, Daniels, six point per passion touch on leagues. Burrow would probably be fourth and four point. Dave, how'd you see those three? I have Daniels at the top of those three,

averaged almost 24 fantasy points per game. His final six games, 30.4 fantasy points per game. That includes the dud in week 18. You take that out and it's 35.6. So it's a little bit of what we saw from Lamar Jackson in 2023. Remember how Lamar finished 2023 red hot over 30 fantasy points per game, and he carried that into 2024.

Assuming everything stays the same, if not, even his receiving core has improved, his offensive line gets a little bit better. I wonder if Jayden Daniels can do the exact same thing. Joe Burrow, I do have questions about what his receiving core will look like. He was obviously better in games with T Higgins, 27.8 fantasy points per game. He averaged 27 for the season, but he was 25 fantasy points per game in five games without T Higgins. If they bring T Higgins back, much easier to buy into Joe Burrow and they also have to pay Jamar Chase, no hold out there.

That would obviously hurt Joe Burrow. He needs to have that receiving core because he can't do with his legs what other quarterbacks can do with theirs. Jalen Hurts averaged 23 fantasy points per game on the year. He started off pretty strong, 25.6 fantasy points per game in his first nine and then 23.1 in his last five, not including week 16. In seven games where Saquon went off Call it 20 PPR points

Hertz had over 20 fancy points in just three So there was definitely an effect of Saquon Barkley when he was great Jalen hurts wasn't a lock to do it and so hurts even with all that rushing upside I'm a little bit hesitant to put them anywhere higher than fifth for now. All right, Jamie, how did you do three through five? I have burrow three, Daniels four, hurts five. I think for the most part, everybody has hurts five, if I'm not mistaken, I can confirm. I have a fourth. For me, and obviously the receiving core will be, you know, taken into account once we finalize these rankings.

Because I don't think it's just Burrow losing, it's Daniels potentially getting it. It might be the same guy. T Higgins may go to Washington, which would be amazing for Daniels and obviously a little bit of a downturn for Burrow. What Burrow accomplished this year, he would have been the MVP if they made the playoffs. He's the third quarterback in NFL history to go 4040 and less than 10 interceptions. The other two guys that did it won the MVP and that was Tom Brady in 2007 and Aaron Rogers in 2011. So could he continue to play at this level? Absolutely. He did it behind an offensive line that wasn't great this year. He did it with T Higgins in and out of the lineup.

Obviously Jamar chase having a historic season, first receiver ever with 1700 receiving yards and 17 touchdowns is a big part of that. And I do think this will be a conversation for down the road. If they keep Mike Gosecki, does he become one of the best values at tight end? Because we saw what he was like when T Higgins was not there. Just an absolute monster. So it might not be him, it could be Eric Hall, the title that they drafted this year. So there could be some value there and it's not just Jermaine Burton or Andre Yoshubis,

who could be the benefactor of T Higgins leaving. So yeah, those two guys are almost interchangeable for me. Daniel's going in our mock draft that we did ahead of Burrow. I have no problem with that. I have no problem with anybody ranking Daniels ahead of Burrow. I just feel right now, Burrow, the year that he just had, Daniels would have to get to the Lamar Jackson level to pass him. And he could.

He was second in rushing yards at the position. 3,500 passing yards could easily become 4,000. So he's got that in his bag also. So I think all five of those guys with, unfortunately Hertz, you know, trending in the wrong direction as the fifth quarterback. But he brings up the backend of this group, you know, just because of what he does with the touch push.

Yeah, I don't know if I agree that Jalen Hertz is trending in the wrong direction. He had a terrific year. And again, he's another guy who's per game averages look worse because he only played just a little bit against Washington before leaving with the concussion. I scored 4.5 fantasy points in that game. But I actually had him ahead of Daniels. I guess I was the only one. And it's just because I look at CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson from last year. And obviously, Daniels had a better fantasy season than those guys. But I don't know

that he played better than CJ Stroud. I mean, CJ Stroud is a different kind of quarterback, but the rookie year Stroud had was unbelievable. Just as a pocket pass, or the few interceptions that he threw, he just looked like a rising star. And sometimes guys have hiccups in their second season, and Baker Mayfield comes to mind. So I obviously have no objection

to people taking Daniels third, but I had him fifth just because I you know Jalen hurts every single year now is is just a consistent fantasy contributor and and a standout So I went burrow burrow hurts This six-point pass that's on these burrow hurts Daniel's yeah I I don't disagree with what you're saying that the reason I said he's going the wrong direction Daniels. Yeah, I don't disagree with what you're saying. The reason I said he's going in the wrong direction comparatively, I think just where he has been and Dave brought it up.

It's really the addition of Saquon Barkley. There's a difference maker in the backfield that he hasn't had to deal with before. So that hurt him a few times this season. And we talked about it. The pass attempts went down throughout the course of the year. So that's why, again, he's still a top five quarterback. I don't mean to make this the, that he's not going to be a top five quarterback. He belongs in this group. But again, we were talking about him as a number one quarterback in some cases last year. I think

Dave had him ranked number one preseason. So he's just taking a little bit of a step back by comparison. And the one thing to your point about the rookies from previous years falling off, his legs give him, I think, a better floor than what CJ Stroud had to fall back on. His passing is certainly better than Anthony Richardson's. Richardson really didn't have enough of a sample size. The Baker comparison, the Stroud comparison, if you want to just go the other route too, Justin Herbert was pretty good in his rookie season and followed that up with a bigger year. Oh yeah. So the other thing I'll say is I don't think Jalen Hurts is going in the wrong direction. I think that there are just other quarterbacks that are going in the right direction.

I just don't know if he has that 28 point per game. Right. So he had that once he had that in 2022 in 2021 2023 2024. He averaged anywhere from 22 to 24 fantasy points per game. That's six point for passing touchdown leagues. That's good. Not good. That's good.

That's really good. And he had like spurts in each of the past two years where he was over 25 fantasy points per game. It's putting it all together and playing at a high level for a full season, which is what he did in O22. I don't know if he can do that for a full year again, as long as Daquan Barclay is there. That's why he's fit. And he might, there's a chance I could move him down from five because other quarterbacks could just be in a better spot where they can be a little bit more consistent and a lot more explosive. You could make the case for Baker Mayfield to go ahead of Jalen Hurts as silly as

that sounds. You can make the case for it. Yeah. All right. We have actually one of the one of the people who participate in this is not right Baker Mayfield as the top 12 quarter. Oh, wow. Okay. I that was Jacob. Right. I mean, I'll make you read the story. All right, we'll be right back after this break on fantasy football today.

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So top 12 quarterbacks, we're back here talking about this and then we'll do DFS after. The top five were the same names in a different order. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen were one and two in some order. And then Jayden Daniels, Joe Burrow, Jaylen Hertz were three, four, five in some order for everybody who's ranking.

Okay, now it gets interesting. Who's six for you guys? I have Baker. My thing I have Baker too. And again, a lot can change. We're talking about our rankings in January. We don't know what his receiving core will look like. Can you bank on Jalen McMillan continuing his breakout from the last five games? Is Chris Godwin going to be there? Is he gone? Is Mike Evans going to fall

off? Who's his offensive coordinator? What's the offensive line look like? Can Baker Mayfield play well in his age 30 season? There's a lot to doubt with Baker Mayfield. You can make the case against him, but once I'm past those first five quarterbacks, I'm pretty sure I'm going to commit to upside. And it's going to be getting a quarterback with upside well past like round six in my draft. And so I need to just keep finding quarterbacks that have sky high upside. This dude had it. He averaged over 26 points per game. First time in a, maybe ever that he's averaged that much in a fantasy league. He averaged over 28 points. 28 or more with

Godwin and Evans for seven games. And he averaged 31.5 fantasy points per game during Jalen McMillan's breakout. Obviously Mike Evans played those are the final five games of the year. You can even point to the three games where he didn't have Godwin's, didn't have Evans Jalen McMillan wasn't a thing yet. It was weeks eight through 10. He averaged 20.4. That's not far off from where Patrick Mahomes has been each of the last two years. Now I don't want to draft this guy sixth and get that.

That's a problem for me, but I also don't think that that's where he'll live if things generally stay the same in Tampa and he's given this carte blanche to keep throwing to explosive receiving core. Like we saw at the beginning of the year when Godwin was healthy and at the end of the year when Jalen McMillan stepped up. And Jamie, you also have Baker Mayffield. So who's seven for you guys? I think there are three guys that qualify for the next three spots for me and it's Baker Mayfield, it's Jared Goff and it's Patrick Mahomes. And Mahomes is the tricky one because as Dave just

alluded to, you know, he hasn't been great as we know, as a fantasy quarterback the last two seasons. But I think you gotta kinda look at the pockets of some of his performances. And you look at the playoffs last year, and you look at what started to happen in the back half of this season, really culminating in the final two games with how he performed in weeks 16 and 17,

not playing in week 18. And so they got faster. And that's a big part, I think, what's been missing from this offense is having multiple players who can make plays down the field, opening up the middle of the field for Kelsey if he does come back. You know, it's still something we have to keep an eye on. But golf has shown the ability in this offense.

And this is a big part because Ben Johnson is gone after the season, most likely. So does everything stay the same? This offensive line is a big, big contributor to what the Lions do in every facet. And obviously helping Jared Goff because he's one of the least mobile quarterbacks in the league. So does that continue to stay the same? Hopefully that's the case. Jamison Williams has emerged as a legitimate NFL wide receiver and that's opened up this

offense as well Samuel Porto's come on the second half and obviously I'm on Ross St. Brown is one of the best receivers in the game So he's got the receiving core He should still have the same system in place and obviously if he's getting protected There's a lot to love about what Jared Goff has shown and then when you look at You know my homes for example you just got to hope that You know, Mahomes, for example, you just got to hope that the offensive line gets a little bit better and he continues just to lean on and get the rice for a full season.

That'll be huge. I am going to make a change in my rankings. So let's do six through eight. I have to change the story now? Can I just change one ranking or no? I'll tell you what. You can talk to Dan and have him change it for you. OK, I just I'm going to put Baker ahead of my home

because I went my home is Baker golf at 678. And what's your order? Jamie Baker Baker golf mom's and Dave. What's is you? You're you might change that seven times between now and August. I take the over. Yeah, so I don't know.

I can't really justify. I do like Xavier worthy a lot. I think he's gonna be good. But I don't love Kelsey that much. If he's back. I just like it's obvious he can't do anything after the catch really anymore. But but if healthy loving, loving Kelsey and Kelsey helping my homes can be two separate separate. Yeah, I know. But and was she rice like if she rice you heard me voice my concerns about her she writes yesterday

and what he'll be when he comes back. But it does look like it could be a good receiving core. I also just think they ran. They had so many running back rushing touchdowns that could have been Mahomes touchdowns. But but I can't see a justification right now on a six point per pass in touchdown league for putting Mahomes over Mayfield because Mayfield actually may feel rushed for 378 yards. Now, that is a number that's probably going to come down.

It's the first time he's rushed for more than like 11 yards per game. He rushed for over 20 yards per game. But if he's in the 15 yards per game, he's still gonna be like around Mahomes there. So I'm gonna go Baker at six, Mahomes seven, Goff eight. And Dave, what's your order? That's my order, Baker, Mahomes, Goff.

And I hate betting against Jared golf average 23.4 fantasy points per game. He averaged actually 25.5 from week four on. Remember that slow start that he had just, I mean, the lions didn't start slow, but he did his numbers weren't great. And then from week four on, he, he had more games where he caught fire than not six games with over 30 fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues. That's pretty good. Hard to ignore that. Could he do more of that next year?

What would it take for that to happen? I don't know. I don't think that there's a chance that he does better than that next year when the running game is still going to be a focal point of their offense. Yeah. Jared Goff is the number seven quarterback per game this year, which just sounds crazy considering how good of a year he had. But 56 rushing yards, no touchdowns. That's just that gives him a ceiling. All right. So if we have we the three of us have the same top eight,

the top five that we talked about, and then in some order, Baker, Goff, Mahomes. All right. So let's do nine and 10. Jamie, who's nine and 10 for you? Nine for me is Kyler, 10 is Brock Purdy. Nine for me is Caleb Williams and 10 is Justin Herbert. This is very much in pencil. Wait a second.

Jamie, who was it? Nine was who? Kyler Murray is nine, Brock Purdy is 10. Okay. That's 10 and 11 for me. David, who is it for you? Caleb Williams at nine, Justin Herbert at 10. Wow. Okay, for me, it's Sam Darnold, nine, Kyler Murray, 10. Well, interesting. Anybody have strong conviction about one of those guys being number nine or 10 for you?

So Dave said something earlier in regards to Baker about drafting for upside of the position. And when I think of upside of the position, two guys that we haven't talked about yet come to mind is Kyler Murray and Anthony Richardson. And they have as much upside as any quarterback as we've seen. I guess probably Caleb Williams, those three. Darnold is the toughest one to rank because we don't know what's gonna happen with him. We don't know what's gonna happen with McCarthy. It could be a situation where if they bring both back

to Minnesota, one maybe on the franchise tag, as opposed to a long-term deal for Darnold, and he struggles, does McCarthy, if he's healthy, get in there and takes over the job. If they commit to Darnold long-term, does he turn into Sam Darnold again, despite the fact. If they commit to Donald long term, does he turn into Sam Donald again, despite the fact of great coaching of Kevin O'Connell, as we saw in the game against the Lions, he was miserable. So we saw the highs of Sam Donald. He's just so hard to

rank. Purdy's had a very good fantasy season, but again, we know what the ups and downs are with him and what this team's going to look like because there's a lot of changes Most likely coming to San Francisco and then but again just in terms of upside It's hard to overlook, you know The the spikes of performances from Kyler Murray his career and the spikes of Anthony Richardson over the last few years So for me, I feel much more safer about Kyler. I think he had a few struggles I'd like to see what this offseason looks like for the Cardinals and what they do But I'm still a believer in his talent And so once we get past those eight guys, but I'm still a believer in his talent.

And so once we get past those eight guys, which I think are going to be locked in for a lot of people, to me, Kyler is the next guy off the board. Okay. And Dave with Caleb Williams up there. You know, it's funny, Caleb Williams, if you look at total yards accounted for, he and Bo Nicks were about even. It's just touchdowns were the huge difference there. So you said you had Caleb nine, right?

I do. Don't love it. But it's based on the hope that the Bears get it right with their new coach slash offensive coordinator, and their offensive line. I think the biggest, the biggest problem that Caleb Williams had was that he was holding the ball too long. And there were times where it was because of indecisiveness on his part and because of play design on the coaching staff's part. There were a lot of plays where they only needed to get like five, six, seven yards and all three of the receivers that we know were running 12 plus yards downfield. It was ridiculous. So he needs a better play

designer. I'd love it to be Ben Johnson, worried that it could be somebody who's not even the head coach, like, say they get somebody like variable or Brian Flores to be the head coach, they get some OC, or someone who's like a quarterback coach now to be the OC, and it just continues to be a mess there. That would make me stay away. If they don't, if they don't keep Keenan, Keenan Allen, they'll have to replace him. How they replace him will matter. What their run game looks like will matter. But this is still a guy who can make a bunch of plays off schedule. And if that is meshed with a good play designer, good offense, good old line, I could see that guy taking a step in his second season and I'd want to bank on that upside. All right. Who are QB's 10 and 11 for you? Dave, you can start.

10 is Justin Herbert. And I did this before Tyreek Hill was going bonkers. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. 11 and 12. 11 and 12. Oh, okay. So 10 is Herbert. We didn't really talk about him, but you know what could happen to that receiving core that could just absolutely set him on fire. To a tongue of I loathe, 11. Sam Darnold at 12. Also very much in pencil.

Could very easily be Brock Purdy. Could be Jordan Love. Could be Kyler Murray. Could be a bunch of guys that fall into that spot. Could be JJ McCarthyJ. McCarthy. A lot of names. Who's 11 and 12 for you? 11 for me is Darnold and 12 is Caleb Williams.

Okay, so nine through 12 for me are Darnold, Kyler, Purdy, Bo Nix. I guess I was the only one who had Bo Nix in the top 12. Three of us, yes. Other colleagues have. And a few of our colleagues have Drake May in the top 12. Yeah. Sure. I see it.

And Caleb Williams is right there as well. And yeah, I think, I think Purdy's gonna have a... I was really encouraged by what I saw from Purdy with the 323 rushing yards and 15 games. I think that's just gonna be a part of his game. He likes to do it. He looked good doing it. And...

I think it depends on what McCaffrey status is too, because most of his rushing came pre McCaffrey coming back. His whole season was basically without McCaffrey. True. But I mean, the four games that McCaffrey played, he didn't run very much. He's not it's not designed runs, though. Yeah, I agree. But I'm just saying, like, he didn't run. I'm not drafting Brock Purdy for his rushing. No, but it's helps, you know, to be to have the potential to be a 300 yard

rusher. That's a big deal. And I think if Iyuk is healthy at some point, early in the season, because he'll be back hopefully by mid season, the latest, depending on how his DBO, you might have a much more diverse receiving core than they've ever had with Jenny. Yeah, for sure. Deep for sure. And that'll help because I don't want him... One of my arguments to take Brock Purdy should not be well, he's got Brandon I you back, because we've seen it far too many times now when a receiver comes back from an ACL. Rarely are they the same guy the very next year?

Oh, I mean, he did what he did this season without anything. Sure. But he the number this year was 20.5. That was his average on the season. Yeah, but I mean, you take on no game. You know, there's easy ways to azerostat his numbers to make it better. Oh, big time, yeah. But he is bad in bad weather. But he scored two points against Buffalo.

He scored four points against the Rams in the rain. He was pretty good, you know, considering all the pieces that were not there. Well, that's the nice thing about it is, you know, and I know their opponents have already been determined, but you know the Division Road games, there's only one outdoors.

Right, okay. And yeah, it'll probably be raining there though. Well, one is in Seattle, so perhaps. Right, all right, so let's turn our attention to the wild card games and some DFS help. And what do you guys like, who you guys looking forward to? Like who has some names that jump out at you?

You're gonna tell me this after we take a commercial break. We'll be right back after this on Fantasy Football Today with a wild card preview and some DFS tips. Who are some players that you really want in your lineups, Jamie? Well, I think you gotta first determine what kind of slate you're playing. You playing the Saturday slate, the Sunday slate, or the full playoff slate, because that's going to determine how you approach it.

So the one lineup that I've done so far, the full slate on Fandl, which is Saturday through Monday, just to get a sample size of everybody. I really like Stafford a lot. I think he's got an opportunity based on his costs. He's one of the cheaper quarterbacks to have a big game. I know he's been terrible as a fantasy quarterback down the stretch, but we know if you can block the Vikings, you can throw on the Vikings, and if they can protect him, I think the opportunities will be there for certainly Pukunakua, hopefully somebody else in the receiving core. But I like the setup for Stafford quite a bit based on his cost.

Clearly, if you want to spend on that position at quarterback, you can find, you know, some great options here, you know, so Lamar is going to be, you know, superstar. I think Donald have a good game too, you know, facing the Rams defense, hopefully. So yeah, it's, it's an easy position to find some guys. That is interesting, because I look at that that Rams Rams Vikings game as a possible avoid. You know, the Rams have been really good on defense lately. Forget about week 18. But I think they gave up like single digit points to four of their I have their schedule right here.

They gave up 14 points at the Saints. OK, whatever. Then 44 points or 42 points to Buffalo. Six points at San Francisco. nine points at the Jets, nine points against Arizona. Their defense has been really good and their offense really hasn't been. They are awful in the first half for whatever reason.

Stafford has single digit fantasy points in each of his last three games. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but again, we're talking DFS. You're trying to win and beat that. Yeah, I know, but. Again, we're talking DFS. You're trying to win and be that. You know, so that's the key. I know, but you're also trying to win. All right.

Like I was thinking Herbert would be my, I don't know if people are going to be on him, but he's playing great and the Texans kind of stink. I don't know if people are. Herbert's great. I don't know what the ownership percentages are going to be. There's plenty of different directions you can go. You can look at Russell Wilson and CJ Stroud who have been struggling and hope that they just get hot and get some of these.

Like you really want a Packers Cowboys game. Oh yeah, oh yeah for sure. So yeah, so which games do we wanna target or you can keep discussing who you who you guys like Go for it. It's however you want to do it The commander's bucks game, I think has the highest total on the weekend. Yes, that's that's gonna be the most popular That's what i'm thinking too, but I I might not mind especially a quarterback Going with jaden daniels and he might be the most popular guy

But I don't think it'll be by a wide margin because people are still gonna say well i'm spending seventy five hundred for jane daniels and i wanna be a little bit different or i wanna share thing you know how do you talk about how josh allen is start the playoffs with a boom every year of his career he's seven hundred more on draft kings she could spend up a little bit to get him Lamar is 500 more than Jane Daniels Baker Mayfield is 700 less. So like you could go in any of those directions and be different. But I think that's the game where both defenses might go out the window. And I just want big pieces of that offense sans Sons Mike Evans, because of the whole Lattimore thing. I just don't think, I don't know if Evans can dominate Lattimore, even if, you know,

short of Lattimore holding him on every other play. Yeah, well, McMillan is only 6,400. Oh, he's the free space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I actually built a lineup without him. I don't know if I liked that I did that, but I did that. So three games have high over unders 47 to 50 points. That would be Broncos bills. But with the Broncos is heavy favor of the bills is heavy favorites, eight and a half points.

Rams Vikings, that game is just a one point spread. So they're expected to score about 24 points each. And commander's bucks have been over under a 50. Eagles Packers is 45 and a half which is really interesting given the injuries status of the quarterbacks but right now they're probably going to play. Eagles are four and a half point favorites and then you have Chargers Texans with the lowest total 42 and a half with the Texans as three point home underdogs and Steelers Ravens 43 and a half point total here but Raven Ravens are huge favorites, nine and a half

points. So the Steelers, if you buy into the Vegas lines, don't start any Steelers. Is there, or if you buy your eyeballs, don't start any. Yeah. I, what about Bateman? I mean, is he an easier free space than Macmillan? No, because I think you've seen what McMillan has done and you see the defense that he's facing. Bateman should have an opportunity for a good game, but we know how this Ravens offense operates. And still, you know, the Steelers, I know they didn't show up how they typically show up against the Ravens in the last meeting, but this is still them for their playoff lives and trying to, you know, pull off a huge upset. So I'm not worried about Lamar and I'm not worried about Andrews, but Bateman is, I don't think he's at, he's definitely a great play without question, but I don't

think he's as, he's as easy a play as, as Macmillan. There are three wide receivers all in a row on draft Kings, Macmillan, Mims, Bateman, 5,200, 5,100, 5,000. in Mims Bateman, 5,200, 5,100, 5,000. And I guarantee you that at least one of those three will be in 75% of the lineups and maybe all three of them in a smattering of lineups because they're hot, they're in great positions to have just big games, Bateman, especially without Zay Flowers there that you can make the case that he could just see an uptick in targets and maybe even a couple of big plays

from Lamar Jackson. Honestly, it wouldn't be that shocking to see even against the Sealers. Can you save money at running back? They're like the only running back that's, I'm just looking at Fandl actually, only running back that's kind of cheap that I would be interested in is Jalen Warren.

And Fandl is only half PPR. So I don't love that. I'm probably paying that. I'm probably paying up. I'm going with Bucky Irving and Joe Mixon. I look at running back and I don't mind the top guys. I probably would not go with Kyron Williams because I do respect that Vikings run defense. But Bucky Irving, Washington gives up like 4.9 yards per carrier to running back, something crazy like that. And Mixon's been awful lately, but in bad matchups, the Chargers are another team that's not good against the run. So I think Mixon can get going again. Those are my guys on

Fandle, Bucky and Mixon. I'm not going with Henry Barkley, Kyron or Cook. Jacob's I'd be fine with. But I don't really see a way to save money really at running back. I don't know if you guys agree. What do you see for J.K. Dobbins? He's 7100. He's, you know, more or less priced. Brian Robinson Jr. at 6500 is interesting, but the Bucks run defense has been phenomenal lately. Yeah, I'm staying away from that. Like if I'm going to play Commander's running back, it'll be Eckler, not Robinson. If the Bucks are in a shootout, Rashad White could be a good option at 5700 on Fandl. That's basically the same price as Jalen Warren.

Those are the good cheaper options. I think Echler is certainly worth a look based on how this game should go. But yeah, it's it's it's either I think you spend up or you just kind of fall into something that you think you like. So the the lineup I built does have three running backs in it flex Flex with Eckler, Bucky and Dobbin. Who's the wide receiver you just need to have? I mean, the one lineup I built was a Ramstack, so I put Puka.

I put Jordan Addison in my lineup. I think he's gonna be under the radar. Yeah, the three receivers I went, I was kind of chalky. I went with Puka, Addison, and Mignol. I didn't have that chance, and I have a receiver in my flex. I went with McLaurin to stack with Jay and Daniels because I'm going with Jay and Daniels. Addison I think will be under the radar. I wonder if Don Tavian-Wicks gets a lot more run and some more deep targets with Christian

Watson's sideline. It's what we've seen all season long, why would it change now? He's cheap. And then to Marcus Robinson, I kind of just wedged in there, but a third receiver for the Rams against that Viking secondary cheap option and Cooper cup has stunk for the last month or so. And I wonder if Robinson can be a guy that starts to make some plays opposite of Puka.

Oh, I thought you were going to suggest cup as a, as a Yeah, cup is a great contrarian play because I think everybody's going to be running away from him. So if you like the Rams, just looking at the Vikings and how their secondary has been, then there's an opportunity there. There's going to be, you know, like the, the Packers receiving core is so interesting because you wonder if the Eagles offense shows up early and they're forced to throw, then they're almost all in play. But if the game is close, then we get more of the same of the Packers, which is going to make them all just tremendously difficult.

Do you think the Broncos passing game will be good with Nicks, with Sutton, maybe Mims? I think it's very possible. I think we get them chasing points here. Yeah. And so, I'm just tooling around with my lineup now. I just took out Daniels and McLaurin, replaced them with Bo Nicks and Sutton. I think Bo Nicks could be, he might be the under the radar quarterback that I target. Bill's pass rush is going to be awesome, but they're secondary and their defense in

general really has not played well to close the season. They will be chasing points. Sutton's very much involved in what they do. I kind of like it. And I freed up over a G's worth of salary to go and spend to take somebody like Robinson out of my line of or wicks or both so I kind of like that if I'm doing a tournament if it's a cash game just trying to double my money or triple my money I'm gonna go chalkier a quarterback than this okay anything else you

want to say about this slate you know it's fun you know I'm gonna have a DFS stuff story on the site. It might be a sports line. I'm not sure where they'll put it. But with good price values and bad players, bad values to avoid and some props on there too. So should be fun. You like Dobbs or Tucker Craft? We haven't talked about tight end at all. By the way, just a real cheap tight end. Will Disley just is the guy now. He had a big game in week 18. I know nobody was really paying attention to week 18, but we'll just say at a big game, he seems to be back as the number one tight end. He's pretty cheap.

He and Tucker craft on Fandle are the two kind of discount tight ends that I might look at. It's not a great tight end slate. You obviously you don't have McBride, you don't have Bowers, you don't have Kelsey. You don't have- That was the one spot I spent up for was Andrews. Was Andrews?

Yeah. I mean, just again, with no Zay Flowers and looking at how the Steelers have defended the position lately, you know, there's an opportunity for him to play well. I think Fryermuth is still interesting. I know he hasn't done well against the Ravens, but you know that they're probably chasing points and he's been good overall down stretch All right, I'm trying to get it I'm struggling a tight end just looking at it right now

I had to send their to back with the commanders But if I'm taking the commanders out and putting the Broncos in I'm gonna make some changes there And just knowing the way the fantasy gods work Dalton Kincacaid will have them. Oh, I know who I'm putting in. What about Isaiah Likely? If there's no Zay Flowers, there's absolutely an opportunity for him to play more. He's been a red zone threat generally all year for the Ravens. That's who I'm putting in at TIDENT. And now look at me, I've got $6,500 to spend on a flex spot.

I'm rolling in dough now, I can go big. How much do you like McLaurin this week? I like them a lot, I might put them in. Yeah, if you like John Daniels, you should have to, that's the easy stack, that's the obvious stack. Man, I really wanna get Josh Allen in my lineup, but I just cannot figure out a way to do it. He is so expensive, but I calculated the fantasy points. The home opener, the playoff home opener for Josh Allen,

four games, I think four straight seasons, 36.5, 38.6, 30, and 39.5 fantasy points and six point per pass in touchdown leagues. He just goes insane. But I think Baker Mayfield could also have a huge game. Oh man, you know what's even harder than making a DFS lineup, picking who's going to win these games. Let's do it. Well, you want to give your lineup?

I'll get my stupid lineup. I don't love it. But Baker Mayfield, Bucky Irving, Joe Mixon, Lad McConkey. I basically consider Lad McConkey just a number one. He's not Puka. He's not AJ Brown. Although, you know, you worry a little bit about Brown, but he's not Nico.. He's not, he's not AJ Brown, although, you know, you worry a little bit about Brown, but he's not Nico, but he's not too far behind. So,

Right. And he does have the upside to be there. Yeah. We've seen that a couple of times this year. Baker, Bucky, Mixon, McConkey, McLaurin, McMillan. Ooh, how about that? It's the, it's the Mick, the Mick stack. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Mixon, Mcocky, McMillan, and McLaurin. Flex is Romeo Dobbs, tight end is Tucker Craft, and I went with the Rams DST.

Why did I go with the Rams DST? Yeah, okay, I don't have any Vikings in there. It's fine. That's the one game that I'm probably concerned about that no one else is gonna be concerned about is that Vikings Rams game. I don't, I would probably pick the under, I don't really do a lot of betting on over-unders,

but those defenses are not that bad. Probably underrated defenses. So I don't really have, I don't have anyone from that game. Whereas Jamie has a ram stack. So obviously we see things very differently. What's, give me a lineup Jamie. That's a FanDuel lineup for me, by the way. What do you got?

FanDuel also. It's Stafford at quarterback, Bucky Irving and J.K. Dobbins at running back. Pukka Nakua, Jordan Addison and Jaylen McMillan at receiver. Mark Andrews at tight end. Eckler at flex and the Chargers defense. Yeah, I like the Eckler call. I mean, that could be a good one.

Dave, what do you got? I have tooled around and landed on this. Bonick's a quarterback. I will stack him with Cortland Sutton. My running backs are James Cook and J.K. Dobbins. My wide receivers are Sutton, Jordan Addison, Terry McLaurin, Isaiah Likely, a tight end. I really love that one now. Keon Coleman is currently in my flex, but I've got 800 left to spend. Uh, so I could either spend up there and get rid of Keon Coleman, just trying to be different, uh, bringing back the, the Broncos stack, obviously with cook and Coleman, and I've also the, the Vikings defense, I like what you were

saying about that game and how it could be lower scoring, but I could just as easily dump the Vikings and go with the Ravens and I could dump Kian Coleman and maybe get a lot of days of keys and have just as much of a unique lineup that way. And I think that's what I'm going to do. So I'm taking out Coleman. This is come back to bite me. I already feel it already.

A lot of days of Kia says my flex and now I've got enough more than enough to put the Ravens as my flex and now I've got enough more than enough to put the Ravens as my defense. So Nick's Cook, Dobbins, Sutton, Addison McLaurin likely Olamide Zacchaeus and the flex. It's fun to say his name and the Ravens DST. If this was a regular season game and the Broncos were eight and a half point dogs at the Bills, I'd probably pick the Broncos to cover that. I think they're solid team. I'm still picking the Broncos to cover. Yeah, I did too. Okay, it's a lot but this this it's not going to be one of those

Buffalo weather games not that like Denver doesn't have bad weather but you know how Josh Allen just seems to they just seem to know how to play in the those conditions. It's going to be a really good weather weekend as of now just look at our guy Kevin Roth every game is green. He basically said it's as ideal as it gets for Orchard Park this time of year. So I don't think weather is a factor. Alright, so we'll start with that game. You guys are taking bills to win Broncos to cover?

Yes. Yes. I'll take Broncos to cover our bills to cover. I'll take bills with the minus eight and a half. But now, I don't, you know, not a lot of conviction there. Chargers Texans, Chargers minus three, what do you guys think? Chargers win and cover. That's probably gonna be the way that Eileen as well.

Yeah. Yeah, all right. Okay. Yeah, hooray. Steelers Ravens, Ravens minus nine and a half. Ravens win and cover. Ravens win, Steelers cover. I agree.

Could anyone see the Steelers winning this game? Because they have, other than the last time they played. Yes, they have a very good track record against Lamar Jackson. Lamar's last game against them is the best game he's had against the Steelers in his career. Yeah. So he's had against the Steelers in his career. So he's hoping to build on that. And ultimately, you know, we've seen the Ravens melt down in their first playoff game before. I'm hoping that doesn't happen here. But the Steelers are definitely going to have something for Lamar to deal with. And, uh, and Derek Henry's got to really erupt, I think. And honestly, I think that that's what they're going to do is feed Derek Henry. This is the

time of year. Remember last year, their playoff game against Kansas city. They didn't run the ball at all. They just put it all on Lamar and he was a mess and it wasn't what anybody was expecting and this year I think they try and make amends for that. And I think they've been doing that all year long. And I think that's going to help carry them to a victory, but it will not be easy. Raven's defense is playing so well right now. Yeah. Like I don't I don't I don't know

if the Steelers can score. Yeah no it's certainly a concern. Packers Eagles. Eagles minus four and a half. What do you guys think? Eagles win and cover. I'm gonna agree. Provided the Jalen Hurts starts and all that stuff. And that's how it's looking. I will say the Eagles win, but the Packers cover. And Bucks, commanders. Bucks are three point favorites on Sunday night. This is my upset.

Commanders win. Bucks win, commanders cover. I got to pick some upset here, right? There's only one other game left to pick if you're gonna pick an upset. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the... I'm gonna go with the Bucks. Are the Bucks any good?

Definitely. I don't know that they're that good. They can score points and they can get after the quarterback. See if they can. The problem is they're facing a quarterback who can run like crazy. And he did it to them in his very first game as an NFL starter.

And he's gotten better since then. Does anybody remember week one, these two teams played? Yeah. 37-20 Buccaneers at home. It's a long, long time ago. Just feel like they've beaten a lot of lousy to be the right right now they've been a lot of love. It's a good day and i had to rushing touchdowns eighty rushing yards it was pretty tepid as a passer no touchdown seventeen of twenty four awesome eclairs is best. What's the best receiver for the commander's yardage wise. best was the best receiver for the commanders yardage wise. I think they've just, I think they're very much a different

team, but the one thing that hasn't changed is that Jay Daniels can run and he's going to do a lot of that. Now I'm talking myself into putting them back into my stack. Most of the good wins for the bucks were earlier this year, but I mean, they, they started with wins against Washington at Detroit and home against Philadelphia. That's a really good, that's three of their first four games.

All right, I'm gonna take the bucks. And the commander's best win is what? The Eagles without hurts, right? I haven't looked at their schedule, but let's find out. This is important to know. I mean, that was probably their best win. I mean, they beat the Giants a couple of times, right? Sure.

They beat Cincinnati on the road, 38-33. They beat the crap out of Arizona on the road They beat yeah other than that Kind of a bunch of cupcakes. All right, you know what? I think I think Tampa Bay things come into pick coming into a clearer picture for me Tampa Bay wins and covers. Thank you, Jamie Then I have to pick the Vikings to win so So I just can't pick all the favorites here. So Vikings with a win as, oh, their favorite crap. All right. I'm picking all the favorites.

They're one point favorites. I have the Rams winning this one. Yeah, I think they want you to take the Vikings. They want you. They have an algorithm, Dave. Sure. Right. They do. OK, they don't know Dave. Sure. Right. They do. Okay. They don't, oh, this is the public. I want the public to take it. No, they have a bunch

of nerds. They have algorithms. Listen, for the majority of lines that they put out, they try and put something competitive so that they get 50% on one side, 50% on the other side. Yeah. But there are some, I've been picking games for basically the last 15 years. There are some games where they want you on one side. I cannot be convinced otherwise of this. Okay. And I've been told that they do this. But why is it all that they don't do this like just now? Do you think that

Matthew Stafford has four passing touchdowns again? No, like he did week eight. That week eight game was so pivotal for the Rams. They were two and four going into it. They ran the ball. Okay. Um, and it was a short week game. Stafford threw four touchdowns cup was good.

DeMarcus Robinson went off. If he can do that again, Sean McVay just has the magic number against his former coaches. Then, uh, yeah, I think that I think that they're the side to be on Schaefer. How you feeling about it? Not good. It kind of reminds me of the giants Vikings game from a couple of years ago

where we were a small favorite and it's kind of like Dave said, they want you to take the Vikings, but then the giants end up winning that game two years ago. I think it was so, Oh yeah. good mm-hmm okay this is this is a 40 million dollar a year game for Sam Darnall yeah it's a big game for him absolutely okay I think there's have more talent than the Rams but I think there's a reason why it's a one-point spread right it's's a close, it's a tough game to pick. You know, try to get the bad taste out of your mouth if you're, if you are picking the Vikings.

I know the last time that we saw them, they look like crap, but you don't want to necessarily just base it on the last time you saw them. The thing that got exposed in that game, and it's kind of been a little bit of a problem for the second half of the season is the offensive line was a disaster and when the offensive line is a disaster, Sam Donald is a disaster. And so you're going to see Jared verse on Cam Robinson a lot and we're going to see if the defensive rookie of the year against a struggling left tackle determines this game and it might.

How many sacks did the Rams have of Sam Donald in week eight? 14. 14. No, 18 sacks. the Rams have of Sam Darnold in week eight? 14. Any guesses? 14. No, 18 sacks. They set a record. No, three. You know how many sacks the Vikings had of Matthew Stafford? 16.

They have 40, 41. They've set a record. Zero. They did not sack Matthew Stafford even one time. Mm-hmm. I was too high, I think. A little bit. I said too high, I think. A little bit. I said sacks, not points.

Passes, that's it. All right, we're outta here everybody. Enjoy the games, and we'll talk to you Monday on Fantasy Football Today.