Fantasy Football Today - Adams to the Rams! DK to the Steelers! Aaron Jones Back to the Vikings! (03/09 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

How do we rank Davante Adams, DK Metcalf, George Pickens, Aaron Jones and Jakobi Meyers after all of the latest news? How is Puka Nacua's value affected by Adams (7:10)? We talk a lot about the wide r...eceivers and then finish with Jones back to the Vikings (23:45) and if he is a safe Fantasy option or if he could be a bust Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The fun begins over the weekend. We welcome you everybody to Fantasy Football Today, a little bonus podcast here on Sunday night. We've been busy and I love it. This is super fun. We've got a few big deals to talk about here with Devontae Adams going to the Rams. Two years and $46 million with 26 million guaranteed according to Ian Rappaport and Pittsburgh acquiring DK Metcalf from Seattle for a second round pick and they're also doing a swap of late round picks and the Steelers are signing Metcalf to a five year deal worth what 150 million? Yep that's it just 150 million bucks and Aaron Jones too. He and I have the same contract unbelievable Aaron Jones, two years, $20 million, $13 million guaranteed back with the
Starting point is 00:00:46 Minnesota Vikings. Jamie doesn't seem to like any of it. No, I do. Actually, I like the move for Adams. I think this is a good signing to a great location and a team in need. I don't love any of these three as fantasy options. I do like that DK Metcalf got his wish. He got to someplace warm with a good quarterback situation. So he really got everything that he really was looking for. Well, he got what he really wanted. Oh, yeah, of course. That's the Acer contract. Five years, 150 million. Yeah, but he was going to get paid. I mean, this is an overpay, but he was going to get paid. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so what? The top wide receivers make about 40 million a year, right? Close to that. Over 35 for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I mean the elite, yes. Yeah, the elite, the elite. So, and the thing is, and then we'll just say this now, say it again throughout the week, when you see a contract at this point, you don't know what it really is. It could have three years where the money is guaranteed out of five or something like that.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And you know, you take the Daniel Jones contract, for example, it was not a four-year, $160 million deal. It was basically a two-year deal with a little bit of a buyout after two years. So you don't know how it's written. And just keep that in mind. Oh, the Monte Adams is a one-year, $26 million deal. Okay. Is that what it is? I time two years for $46 million. Okay. Okay. Is that what it is? It's two years for 46. Okay. So, um, and DK is now tied for fifth on average per year among wide receivers. He's tied with
Starting point is 00:02:12 Tyree kill and Brandon. I you Chris Godwin's very happy right now. Yeah. Chris. Yeah. That's a great call. T Higgins is happy. And all right. Anyway, let's do this. Let's rank a few players who are going to be drafted in round four later, conservatively, let's do this. Let's rank a few players who are going to be drafted in. Round four later, conservatively, let's say. Devante Adams, D.K. Metcalf and Aaron Jones. Yes. Yeah, that would be my order as well. Adams over Metcalf. Yes. OK. Who's the quarterback in Pittsburgh? Yeah, I'm sure we'll do another podcast tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:02:43 We will do another podcast on Monday. I don't know when you are hearing this. We'll do another podcast on Monday and we'll probably know who the quarterback in Pittsburgh? Yeah, I'm sure we'll do another podcast tomorrow. We will do another podcast on Monday. I don't know when y'all are hearing this. We'll do another podcast on Monday and we'll probably know who the quarterback will be, possibly know who the quarterback will be, but it seems like it's gonna be Justin Fields, right? I mean, that would make the most sense from Pittsburgh standpoint,
Starting point is 00:02:58 but it wouldn't help the fantasy outlook for Metcalf or at least as of now, George Pickens, if he stays. So I think you're looking at it like if you, if you're pie in the sky for those guys to maximize their fantasy value, you probably want them to go get Aaron Rogers or Sam Darnold or Russ. Oh man. Two wide receivers fighting for targets from Justin Fields, who's just not going to throw a lot and it's not going to throw a lot
Starting point is 00:03:25 and it's gonna run for a lot of touchdowns. I mean, that is awesome. With a play caller who doesn't like to throw the ball to begin with. Yeah, that's no good. Yeah, this is not good. I mean, to be honest, the only benefit right now is their running back room is empty.
Starting point is 00:03:38 By the way, who do you guys like better, George Pickens or DK Metcalf? I think the Steelers like Metcalfe better. Right. Okay, so, so they just they just told us they're not paying George Pickens after this year. Pickens is entering a contract here. I believe he didn't get an extension last year. So this should be it, I can double check it. But I'm reasonably sure that that's the case. And so they're either
Starting point is 00:04:02 going to keep them on the cheap contract and he, he'll moan and pout and all that stuff, being the No. 2 receiver in Pittsburgh. Or if they can find a team that can, you know, kind of look at him the same way that they looked at DK and say, All right, George Pickens is our long-term solution. Let's trade for him and let's give him a contract extension. Then he's gone. And he might be gone either way. I'm not sure if he's, I don't know if that coaching staff is, is big fan of George Pickens anymore. So DK is going to be the No. 1 guy. It's probably going to mean somewhere in the neighborhood of 7 to 7-1⁄2 targets per game. That might be even a little optimistic. That's what Pickens had last year was 7.4. And then I think like twice in the four or five years prior, did any Steelers receiver have like eight plus targets per game. And Arthur Smith's track record with wide receivers is terrible. And
Starting point is 00:04:55 we, yeah, I think we're kind of hoping that it's Russell Wilson at quarterback, and even that's not that great. So I'm, I'm, I'm ready to look at DK is no better than a number three fantasy receiver, probably around six pick. I'm hoping dudes in my league see his name and get a little excited. And they take him before I would settle for him. I don't really want to talk too much about the Seahawks right now, just because there's so much uncertainty. But obviously, like JSN has a huge opportunity, as as we sit here right now, but we don't know who his quarterback is going to be. I mean, I think we do.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Okay, with Arnold. Yeah. So when you look at like, Darnold, DeGino Smith, we can start there. What? No, no, no, not gonna do it because we're gonna wait till it's official. That's fine. Let's just wait till it happens. So why don't we focus on the on the stuff that's actually happened now? How big of a difference? You don't want to talk about JSN with no quarterback, but D.K. Metcalf with no quarter.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Well, he just got traded. D.K. Metcalf, like there's news. But I mean, look, there's still there. There's still similarities, you know, situation. Yeah, yeah, I sure I mean, we can talk about anything, but let's talk about this. What's the difference right now between Devontae Adams and Cooper Cup? One's going to be playing in the Rams offense and the other one's going to be playing in the Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:06:15 As it relates to Pukinakua. I'm sorry. As it relates to Pukinakua. It's a little part of it out there. Which version of Cooper Cup? The last eight games of Cooper Cup or the career of Cooper Cup or the career of Cooper Cup with Pukunakua? Yeah, let's say the last couple of seasons. I mean, it's two very different versions of Cooper Cup. I mean, you go back to see, that's the thing though. It's Cup was not really healthy in 2023 when Nakua had his breakout season. And then they barely played together where Cooper Cup looked like Cooper Cup. breakout season and then they barely played together where Cooper Cup looked like Cooper Cup.
Starting point is 00:06:45 So the final eight games, Cooper Cup was miserable last year, including the playoffs. Yes, that's for sure. And so is, is Devante Adams significantly better than that? You would hope. So I look at it this way. Matthew Stafford has kind of shown us when he has a guy, at least with the Rams and McVay, when he has a guy, he leans on that guy. Thereay, when he has a guy he leans on that guy. There could still be a second player that gets production because you go back to the
Starting point is 00:07:09 week 8 through 12 last season when they both came back and both were successful. Kuba had the game, we got ejected, but the first four games or so they both were excellent and Stafford was excellent. And then Kuba just tailed off and Nakua took off And so I look at it this way Devontae Adams is gonna be 33 in December. So we'll call him a 32 receiver this is the The year where these guys just completely fall off the track record just the last 10 years of wide receivers H 32 or older is is pretty miserable certainly from a high-end production, you know, as I think will still be good
Starting point is 00:07:44 I just don't think he'll be great. So you have Nakua in his prime, goes from 17 plus points per game as a rookie, 18 plus points per game last year in a choppy season because he missed four of the first five games or five of the first six games with knee injury. To me, Nakua is the guy there. And so Adams is going to be a good piece. He'll certainly have a productive season. But I think if you're expecting him
Starting point is 00:08:05 to be what he was in the final seven, eight games with the Jets, I think you're going to overvalue him again, his age, his best seasons. I know he had the production with a, with car, but he was 180 targets with their car. He's not getting 180 targets with Matthew Stafford. I still think the cool is going to lead the team and target. So you're talking about Nakuha in the final 10 games of the season last year, average 11 targets per game. I don't know if that changes. Maybe maybe 10. I don't think he's going from 11 to seven or eight.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Nakuha you're saying 10 targets per game? Yeah. Yeah, almost 10 targets per game last year. He in his final 10 games of the season, including the playoffs, he was 11.2 targets per game. Yeah. Yeah. I would almost send targets per game last year. He is in his final 10 games of the season, including the playoffs. He was 11.2 targets for him. Yeah. So I mean, I look at like Pukinacua season week one, he plays 32% of the snaps comes back in week eight, plays 57% of the snaps week nine, 35% of the snaps gets ejected after that. You know, I would say normal snapshot back to that in a minute here for Pukinakua,
Starting point is 00:09:06 but let's say his normal snapshot from last year. So that's week 10 on, I think the final eight games, not including the playoffs. He was on pace for 189 targets, 142 catches, 1,781 yards, six touchdowns. That is Pukinakua, that is, you know, top five pick, right? Like incredible. You notice though, the touchdowns are not there.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Now, just a couple of things real quick. 75, he was not playing, he was not playing. And I think maybe because he got hurt, right? And missed so much time. He's not playing a normal snap share. That was his normal snap share for last year, but he was usually around 75, 80% of the snaps compared to his rookie season.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He's playing about 90% of the snaps. So this was a guy who I didn't even realize until today, just some of these things where you just look it up and oh, I didn't know. Who could have thought he wasn't playing his full snap share? So that's one thing to note. I think a concern of mine here is just red zone, green zone, end zone.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I don't know what to expect from Devante Adams at this point. Jamie, I also very much fear 32 year old wide receivers. I also thought Derrick Henry was going to be a bust and Aaron Jones was going to be terrible and James Scott. Like maybe we just need to, it's 2025 and guys are better at older ages and we need to stop thinking about that. I don't know. And he could be one of the greats. Yeah, he could be Larry Fitzgerald. He could be Jerry Rice. He could be, you know, one of these guys that excels into his mid 30s, maybe late 30s.
Starting point is 00:10:29 But when you see a guy move from team to team to team, there's reasons for it, you know, and is it decline in production? Well, he didn't really decline last year. Is it, you know, change in philosophy because of the team? That's probably the case because the Jets bringing a whole new regime there. So he wants to be on the West Coast. He's leaving the guy who's he's had the most success with. And I think if you break up his season, grant a small sample size, the first three games with Gardner Minshew and Aiden O'Connell, and nobody's going to suggest that those guys
Starting point is 00:10:54 are Matthew Stafford, clearly. But those three games, he was 14.9 PPR points per game. Now, is he closer to that? Or is he closer to the 17 plus points per game that we saw with the Jets? We probably put in the middle, right? So say the 17 plus points per game that we saw with the Jets? Well, you probably put it in the middle, right? So say 15, 16 points per game. That's awesome. That's great. I mean, that's a steal in round four or five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But what I was going to say was he's always been, Devante Adams has always been over the last three years, I think since leaving Green Bay, he's averaged 26 red zone targets per season. That's insane. He's always been a red zone, end zone, green zone guy. Pooka Nakua hasn't. So I think on one hand, we've seen Pooka be elite even without big touchdown totals.
Starting point is 00:11:30 On the other hand, you know, this is where Cooper Cup really shined. He was the end zone guy for Matthew Stafford. Does Adams fill that role? Does Moore go to Nakua? And I'll end my rant by asking you, is Pookinakua still a top five wide receiver? Any change in the rankings for him? He may drop to like five to six or seven at worst. He's still a first round pick for me. I just look at the track record of Stafford since Nakua has been on the field with him. And again, yes, Cup in and out of the lineup, injured, not the same guy, declining.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Cup, in and out of the lineup, injured, not the same guy, declining. But I think you look at Stafford, what he did with Cup before Nakula was there, he leans on a player like this. And this is where McVay and why this marriage should work if Adams stays healthy. Adams is a route running master. I mean, you know, he gets off the line of scrimmage as well as anybody still at his age. You ask receivers who they marvel their game after in terms of how they get off the line of scrimmage and break press coverage. It's the Montaens because he does it without his hands. I mean, his footwork is amazing. And so these are the things that you have to say, okay, are
Starting point is 00:12:42 they gonna decline? Because at his age, it didn't seem to be the case last year, but again, he was also with a quarterback who he was very in sync with. So I think that the quicker Stafford and Adams get on the same page, how much does the target share maybe shift a little bit? How much more do they add to this receiving core? Because, you know, they bring back Tutu Alwa, felt like a little overpaid to give them one year, $10 million deal for a guy they never really used. But you have that as now your third receiver.
Starting point is 00:13:05 It's great for the top two guys because they're probably going to get so much attention. Yeah. So, and I think also part of the touchdown problem for Nakua is they run the ball when they're down there, you know, so this is where Kyron Williams success comes into play. So it's a great signing. It's just a matter of I think if you value Adams the right way, if you're expecting him to be a top 12 receiver Like he was last year again the track record of guys 32 years or older
Starting point is 00:13:29 There's been four guys in the last 10 years that have been top 10 at that position top 20 There's me. I'm sorry three guys top 10 four guys top 20 So it's not in his favor to finish in that range But if you're expecting a top 20 receiver, I think you're going to be on the cusp. And so round five, six, seven, I think that's a good spot to gamble on him. But like you said, you know, first four rounds, I don't know. And I don't think it hurts in the cooler personally. So you got to knock them down a peg or two a little bit just because he should be better in terms of Adams over what Cooper Cup was.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But I still think we're looking at a guy in this offense, 10 plus targets per game. I like that set up pretty good. Can I make the bull case for Devante? Yes. Can I take a break first? Please. All right. We're gonna take a quick break here. Dave, I want to hear Dave, if you're moving Pukin Akua at all, and then be bullish on Devante Adams. We'll be right back. Get ready for Las Vegas style action at BetMGM, the king of online casinos. Enjoy casino games at your fingertips with the same Vegas strip excitement MGM is famous for when you
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Starting point is 00:15:27 I think seeing Devonte Adams work primarily in the slot is something he can do. I think it's probably where he should be based on his lack of breakaway speed. I mean, you saw it at times last year with the Jets, but Jamie, I thought you said it perfectly. His route running is still great. His hands are still great.
Starting point is 00:15:44 He can be that red zone threat. He can be that red-zone threat. He can be the third down, money down target for Matthew Stafford. And he can lead this team in touchdowns. And I hate the fact that he's 32 going on 33. But I love the fact that Devante Adams is now going to be in a role where he doesn't have to shoulder everything. And he doesn't have to be the top Target-getter, but he can still do all the things. He can literally take Cooper Cupps' role and flourish in it and be that Top 20 type of receiver. I don't think he's gonna last till Round 6 or 7. I think Round 5 is gonna be the time. He's gonna be one of the No. 2 wide receivers that I, I'm gonna say like on the border of Settling for, because I don't think I'd necessarily settle for him. I'm gonna say like on the border of settling for, because I don't think I'd necessarily settle for them. I'm kind of excited about this. I know what to expect from this offense. I think they're moving in the right direction. I'm a little
Starting point is 00:16:31 curious who their backup quarterback is going to be, because if Stafford misses time, that could be a disaster. But I think Devonte Adams proved last year, especially once he got on the same page with Rogers, and I think that that might have actually been an issue, a Rogers issue, not an Adams issue, that he can still play in this league. And I think he fits perfectly what the Rams are looking to replace in Cooper Cup. I'm excited about him. As for Puka, I'm, I kind of changed keeping him at wide receiver 3 in my rankings from pen to pencil. I want to see what happens in New York with Malik neighbors. Certainly keeping the door open with Amun Ra, St. Brown in Detroit, other wide receivers that could jump up there. But Pukka's probably, for now he's No. 3. Will he be Top 5 even by the time we get to August? I can't say for sure that he will. But he'll be like a Top 15 pick, probably probably no matter what. But I do see what you see.
Starting point is 00:17:26 A lot of volume, a lot of catches. Here's some trivia for you guys. Who scored more points in non-PPR last year on a per game basis between Puka Nakua and Devante Adams? Preston Pyshka In non-PPR, I'm still going to say it's Puka, but I know Puka was like number nine per game and non-PPR number four per game and full PPR. So big difference. I'm still going to say Puka. I'll say Adam. It's Puka by four tenths of a point. Yeah, he did. Touchdowns. You know, that's, that's, that's the one thing. That's the thing that I would be worried about the most with Nakua. I wonder though, if you Azur stat that though, the games that Nakua left early.
Starting point is 00:18:01 So the game, so he was only on pace for six touchdowns in the eight games that he played 75% or more of the snaps in 2023. He caught six touchdowns in 17 games. He did have a rushing touchdown last year though. I forgot about that, but, but so let's see in 11 games, 28 games. Now, some of them he left a little early. So let's say 25 career games that he hasn't left early, So let's say 25 career games that he hasn't left early, nine touchdowns. Whereas Devontae Adams reliably scores eight touchdowns every year. I mean, let's see one season for Adams in his last nine with fewer than eight touchdowns and I'm pretty sure he got hurt that year.
Starting point is 00:18:37 He caught five. So it's interesting. But again, I'm encouraged by the fact that Pukinokua in full PBR has been an absolute stud top five caliber wide receiver even without the touchdown. So I think that shows you what his potential is. And I guess, you know, to wrap it up, I mean, I almost feel like we don't love Devonte Adams at this stage in his career, but it couldn't have asked for a much better landing spot. Is that a fair way to wrap it up?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah, perfect way. And he's never played indoor. No, I'm sorry, played the Raiders. So it's a surface that should help him. It's a quarterback and a coach that should help him. It's a great signing, you know, so hopefully he stays healthy. You just got to, if he was 28, like we'd be through the moon for this. Let me throw another wide receiver in this mix here with Devonte Adams. He wouldn't be available if he were 28.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah. With Devonte Adams, DK Metcalf. How about Jacobi Myers, who was a wide receiver 24 per game last year in full PPR and just got Gino Smith. Would you take Jacobi Myers over Adams or Metcalf? I would probably rank Adams, Myers, Metcalf. I think I'd probably take Metcalf over Myers, but that's where it's close.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Adams is ahead of both those guys. Myers over Pickens? Yeah, I think we're there. I think we're there with the receiving corps. Myers over Pickens, yeah. For now. for now. I mean, what happens if Pickens is traded to, you know, Tennessee or something like that
Starting point is 00:20:10 and he's their number one receiver? Sure. Might be hard to do that then. It's gonna be a fun week here. It's gonna be a fun week. And one thing that- The script is always good, Adam. What, like Matthew Stafford or Gino Smith,
Starting point is 00:20:23 let's say we're in a two QB league, Stafford or Gino Smith, let's say we're in a two QB league Stafford or Gino. Stafford was so Stafford in the final 12 games of the season. He averaged 19.7 fantasy points per game. And that's with three stinkers where he had less than 10 PPR 10 fantasy points, 1810 fantasy points. So once he got those guys back from week eight on, he was pretty good. He was good. And when you say guys, that's not just receivers, it's offensive line too.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Like everything came together for LA. But with Geno Smith, you could be talking about 250 more rushing yards and how many rushing touchdowns has he had the last few years? Not many, one or two. But 250 more rushing yards and two more rushing touchdowns has he had the last few years? Not many, one or two, but 250 more rushing yards and two more rushing touchdowns. That's like the equivalent of what, six touchdowns in a six point per passing touchdown league. So let's just, you know, something to think about. Stafford gives you almost nothing with his legs. And they also
Starting point is 00:21:21 got super run heavy toward the end of last year. I hope that doesn't continue. They were beat up. Quarterback was beat up for sure. All right. And I remember Matthew Stafford's last game. He threw quite a bit. You know what I think is gonna be interesting as we see where like Russell Wilson
Starting point is 00:21:36 and Aaron Rodgers and all these guys, like one of those guys seems like they're going to the Giants. If you are in a dynasty league, super flex or not, is Cam Ward gonna sit? Is Chedurah Sanders gonna sit for the first year of their career? You know?
Starting point is 00:21:54 I think if one goes to Cleveland, no. But it could happen if they sign cousins. Same thing with Tennessee. Yeah, it's a very realistic polybis possibility. If Cam Ward goes to Tennessee, he's starting. Yeah, but if he goes to the Giants, I don't think he necessarily will. I think they're going to play the veteran. No, I think they're going to. I think I think it's very realistic that Aaron Rodgers and Cam Ward are on the Giants or
Starting point is 00:22:15 Aaron Rodgers and Chider Sanders are on the Giants right now. As we sit here Sunday night, it looks like it's Rodgers or Wilson, according to one of the beat writers for the Giants. It looks like Rodgers and Wilson is the most likely scenario for the Giants, but they are getting a veteran quarterback. It seems We'll see but it's not not gonna be great DeVito forget to Vito, whatever All right, guys, thank you good stuff fun stuff Jamie's going Eric Jones back to the Vikings, two years, 20 million,
Starting point is 00:22:45 13 million guaranteed. Good for you, Aaron. He had a really good year for them. He did. 13 million in a year where there's, you know, five really good running backs in the draft and another maybe 10 who were serviceable. That seems like a lot for a guy
Starting point is 00:23:04 who you might phase out by November. I think it, look, it's, it's another situation where it's a, it's a team coming off a pretty solid offensive season and you're going to have a most likely young quarterback and JJ McCarthy. So having a presence like Aaron Jones makes some sense. So at his age, coming off of the season that he just had, you're asking him, which was career year for him. I mean, most carries, most snaps, second most yard from scrimmage. So he was very productive and he was a good fantasy option. And I think the one thing that was impressive to me was every time he was hurt, he fought
Starting point is 00:23:36 through it. He had the one situation where they had their bye week and he came back afterwards. So I think we thought that he might not be healthy, but it was fairly impressive that he didn't miss any time. So who knows how much of the money was a motivating factor to play through it, but it was an impressive season. Can he do it again at this age? So if you're going to be drafting him, I think, as a slam dunk starter, I don't love that. If you're drafting him as a hero RB, zero RB approach, and he's your second running
Starting point is 00:24:04 back, I don't know if I'd love him as my first but your second running back then you just got to understand there may be some missed time he may give you you know half a season of you know hopefully positive production but again running backs at this age especially with his injury track record like they just make me so nervous the year before his last year in Green Bay he missed so much time with with ankle with knee issues but definitely ankle issue early in the season hamstring issues. It was certainly problematic in 2023, but it was great last year. So hopefully stay healthy again. Look at this comment from J James. Aaron Jones did not have a great year, man. Look, I mean, did he have an all pro year? No, but he actually averaged as many fantasy points per game as Bucky Irving. He was RB 19 per game in both non and full PPR.
Starting point is 00:24:49 He scored only seven touchdowns in 17 games. Only five of those were rushing touchdowns. What did he average? Four and a half yards per carry or something like that, which was a career low for him. Well, yeah, it's exactly what it was. He is a good player and I do think he had a good year. Maybe he didn't have a great year, but he had a good year and was a very solid running
Starting point is 00:25:09 back. It's just, they're just, he's just not going to get that many touches. But I actually think, I don't know, unless he completely falls off a cliff, I don't, I don't know what the bust case is. Like, you know, he's not going to be drafted that high, I don't think. Right. Right. It's good that he's staying in Minnesota. That's a good offense. There's lots of points to be scored, theoretically at least, just knowing the track record of Kevin O'Connell. But I just, I don't know. No one's going to be excited to take Aaron Jones. At best, he'll be a settle for RB2. But I bet with, with the rookie, rookie running backs, again, pointing my finger at Ashton Jantey and O'Marian Hampton and, and Caleb Johnson, the Ohio State guys, I'm probably going to repeat those names a ton over the next month. They all might get drafted ahead of
Starting point is 00:26:00 Aaron Jones and fantasy. So that'll push them into the No. 3 three range and that's fine. That's exactly what Jamie was talking about. If you're going zero RB or hero RB, you can draft Aaron Jones and you can roll with him in September. And then if you've got anything left from him in October plus, good for you. But at that price that you'll get him out in the draft, if you're drafting him as a number three running back, there's no problem with that. Just don't overvalue him. Don't reach for him. It's also one of those teams where you wanna see who the backup is. Because if he does suffer an injury, miss anytime, like Dave said, it's explosive offense. Yeah, hello. I think that will be somewhat frustrating
Starting point is 00:26:38 is if this is one of the teams, I know they don't have a lot of draft picks, but if they do spend an early pick, one of the early picks on a running back, and then we have the headache of what happens early in the season, then you're just waiting and waiting and waiting. And we have the Trey Benson, Blake Quorum, you know, scenario where these guys don't get the time. Yeah, that would suck.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah. Playing time that they may deserve as a rookie. Yeah. So this is a team that's, this is a team that's trading out around one in the draft. Schaefer informing us that they have three picks in the entire draft. Right. That's their trading down in round one. Yeah. So here's the bus case for Aaron Jones. Last four games of the season, including the playoffs, he averaged 12 carries per game, actually the last three games, only three. So that's not that bad, but 12 carries per game
Starting point is 00:27:21 would be bad. It's only three games. He did have a lot of catches in those games though. A lot of targets. In fact, he had five or more targets in each of his last four games including the playoffs. But that's a big deal. I think the bus case is McCarthy stinks and the offense regresses and he's also gonna be 31. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty big bus case. Are we good? Done with this little bonus show? Any big moves since we started touring?
Starting point is 00:27:48 We may have something in an hour, so who knows. Yeah, I think we're probably done for the night, but if anything, we might reconvene tomorrow, Monday morning. And if not, can we commit to a time, Monday afternoon? Three o'clock, I think. That's tea time. T-E-A or? T-E-E. T-E-A. I don't think so. What time is it in the afternoon? Three o'clock, I think. That's tea time. T-E-A or? T-E-E.
Starting point is 00:28:08 T-E-A. I don't play golf. Nothing makes me angrier than a golf. All right, everybody, thanks for hopping on for this bonus podcast. We will talk to you tomorrow as things develop and have a good one. See you later on Vanessa for Call to Answer.

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