Fantasy Football Today - ADP Movers and Bold Predictions! (09/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

Check out our ebay store to benefit St. Jude! Bid on spots in Podcast Leagues, pre-draft calls with our analysts and more https://ebay.to/3p4Dc3Z NOTE: We get updated Brian Robinson news late in the s...how and we react to it (55:00) with Antonio Gibson now in the Round 6 range.  Let's get bold today! Starting with a couple of bold predictions for Jamey and Heath (3:23). They each give you a sneaky candidate to be WR1 and of course we get a Dameon Pierce bold prediction. We'll then tell you why Cole Kmet is rising (11:50) and Michael Thomas is falling (14:00) in average draft position. This is great news if you like Michael Thomas ... Some quick best ball tips (17:25) and then a lot of news and notes (22:40). We talk about Brian Robinson BEFORE the updated news, plus J.K. Dobbins, Sony Michel and many more ... Back to the ADP risers (33:15) and fallers (42:40). Pierce and A.J. Dillon are moving on up, but who do we like better? Rashaad Penny and Chase Edmonds are also moving up while Dak Prescott and Adam Thielen are among the fallers. Then we get more bold predictions for 2022 (50:30) before reacting to Brian Robinson being out for at least four games ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to your Thursday edition of Fantasy Football Today. We are one week away from Bills and Rams. Who's going to win, Bills or Rams? Bills. Bills by two scores. I don't like the cornerback situation for the Bills. It is a vulnerability.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm going to take the Rams by three points. I don't even know what the spread is. Is that the spread? It feels like one and a half of the spread. I just needed to say something positive about the Bills because they are fans all hate me right now. Yeah, what's up with that? You're not a Bills guy, huh? So you missed that last night, Adam. I'm sure you were getting ready for your show as part of our part of the telephone draft fund. So we have uh the saint jude representative who's just an awesome kid is jake marshall he's been on our show i think every year that we've done the draft on all five years and he's uh um i never know the right way to say saint jude survivor or he he's
Starting point is 00:02:36 he's he was a patient it's saint jude patient and and he survived because of the rare treatment that they uh did on him. Unique treatment, I guess. Again, I don't know the right way to say it. But, you know, we're just so thankful that he was able to get the treatment that he got from St. Jude. And he's just a phenomenal, you know, he's a young man at this point. An aspiring broadcaster as well. But he's a diehard Bills fan.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And so Jack Capitardo, our producer, he's like like i don't understand what dave and heath are doing they just gave me all bill stuff we're gonna have like an entire bill segment so like dave sleeper obviously you know he wanted to give his best and mckenzie and dave and he gave his bust was josh allen based on cost and so like we've already talked a lot of bills and then he comes on his bills fan and so obviously i have to tell him that he doesn't like josh allen or just call j Josh Allen a bust. It was very funny. But you said, was it yesterday on the air, you said, Heath, that you're kind of low on, compared to Dave and Jamie, you're lower on the Bills guys?
Starting point is 00:03:34 Someone had sent us an email with a comparison, and I'm low on every single Bills player, apparently. Is there a reason for that? Well, you're definitely low on Davis. I mean, we've had that conversation. I'm Singletary. What about Diggs? Yeah, I Singletary. What about Diggs? Yeah, I mean. What?
Starting point is 00:03:47 What about Diggs? I think I'm slightly lower on Diggs. Okay. All right. Well, today on the show, we've got bold predictions. We've got ADP movers. So, yes, there will be more Damian Pierce discussion. We did a draft on the air last night during our draft-a-thon,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and Damian Pierce went to Jamie in the fourth round. So, we'll see. You didn't ask me, though. I did that strategically. I didn't want to take him to the fourth round, but there was like five receivers that I liked, and I kind of thought that he wasn't going to come back to me on the turn.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Okay. But bold predictions, ADP risers and fallers, news and notes. We'll update you on Brian Robinson as best as we can. J.K. Dobbins, is he limping? It depends who you ask. Sonny Michel going to the Chargers. Does that matter at all for Austin Eckler? The 49ers waving Trey Sermon. And some week one notes here, because we're, like I said, only a week away from that Thursday night game.
Starting point is 00:04:40 So let's start with, you guys each have five bold predictions. Let's start with two from each of you. Heath, give me a bold prediction. Oh, Heath, you're muted. Trying to really help out, but I just came up with a sixth that I haven't given you yet, so I'll go with that as one of my big bold predictions. Tyler Higbee will finish the year as a top six fantasy tight end this year. Basically free on draft day.
Starting point is 00:05:04 He ranked top six last year in red zone targets, six fantasy tight end this year basically free on draft day he ranked top six last year in red zone targets snap share route participation routes run and expected fantasy points he just didn't produce near as well as he had the past three seasons I do not believe that Tyler Higbee is just a worse player with Matthew Stafford than he is with Jared Goff I don't believe anything's change is gonna cause his opportunity to get less. I think we'll see some regression and he will produce much better numbers.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I've got him ranked in the top 10. The bill will bold prediction as he finishes top six. That's awesome. All right. Tyler Higby, top six, Jamie, give me round one of your bold predictions.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Um, Damien Pierce outscores Reese Hall and Ken Walker in combined fantasy points. Oh, man. Combined fantasy points. Wow. All right. You want to expand? I mean, it's kind of space for itself.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I mean, it's obviously going to take an injury probably at this point. Ken Walker not playing the majority of the season because I don't think Damian Pierce is obviously that much better than Brees Hall by himself. So, you know, it's clearly taking a play on, you know, Walker not having a significant season, which I hope is not the case. I'd like to see him play. But I think Pierce is the best rookie running back right now coming into the season. And the two guys who, you know, we look at from a redraft standpoint that were expected to be better than them are in a little bit of a tough spot. Whereas Pierce, you know, he was, I don't know if he was necessarily the third rookie coming in.
Starting point is 00:06:27 We had the debates of, you know, remember early on and at the start of training camp, it was Pierce versus Algier, you know, with the thought of Algier being the Falcons running back and then James Cook, what kind of role was he going to have? And you've kind of seen all these guys have problems, you know, to whatever degree Hall with Carter Walker with the injury cook, you know, going to take some time and really being used on passing downs. Algier, you know, who knows at what point he'll take over the Falcons job.
Starting point is 00:06:50 All Damian Pierce has done is just ascend to the top of the rookie running back list. Again, redraft only. If you're still rookie drafts or startup dynasty drafts, you should absolutely take Brees Hall ahead of Pierce and probably still Ken Walker. But in terms of which rookie looks the best right now, I'm still hopeful for Hall, but it's hard not to say Damian Pierce is the best. All right, Heath, round two of your bold predictions. Well, I mean, we can't get this far into a show without saying DJ Moore's name.
Starting point is 00:07:16 DJ Moore will triple his career high in receiving touchdowns and finishes the number one wide receiver in fantasy. His career high is four? Or five? Four. Four, right? receiving touchdowns and finishes the number one wide receiver in fantasy his career high is four or five four four right yeah it's much easier to triple than five is yeah yeah 12 touchdowns three then i'd feel even more confident all right dj more 12 touchdowns wide receiver one jamie i think you have a wide receiver one bullet prediction too right yeah dj more will have to tell for being wide receiver too um because obviously michael pitman's going to be better than him uh you know he's going to go from 129 targets
Starting point is 00:07:49 to 159 targets and just absolutely benefit from matt ryan throwing him the ball and he has the first double digit touchdown career season i think if i remember correctly for matt ryan quarterback for matt ryan wide receiver so i think he gets 12 touchdowns and leads all wide receivers in fantasy sports. All right. Those are some bold predictions. We'll have more of them later on. Some of the players we're going to tell you about as ADP risers and fallers. Cole Komet is rising up big on the CBS Sports fantasy draft boards. Michael Thomas is falling, which I love.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I mean, I think it's just I was taking him in the third round at one point, sports fantasy draft boards. Michael Thomas is falling, which I love. I mean, I think, you know, it's just, I was taking him in the third round at one point. Now he's probably a fifth round pick in most drafts. So we'll talk about when the right time to take Michael Thomas is. Can I tell you something just to tie in other sites? Because clearly we spend a lot of time talking about our sites.
Starting point is 00:08:42 And Heath pointed this out on Twitter in regards to Chris Godwin about another site clearly we spend a lot of time talking about our sites and he pointed this out on on twitter um in regards to chris godwin about another uh site that i i drafted on yahoo and i did it was a super flex draft and i started my team with at the seven or eight i forget seven or eight with kyler murray was first i took travis kelsey in round two uh aaron jones in round three i don't want to go through the whole draft but but in any event, I was obviously a little bit stuck at receiver because then I went Justin Fields, I think, right after that.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And I was like, okay, what am I going to do at wide receiver? Because, you know, I'll talk to him as soon as I go. So looking at their projections, and this is not to pick on anybody's projections by any stretch. This is not to critique. It's just how different sites do it. You know, we're lower and higher on certain guys as well um but i knew you know because because he had pointed out the value and how great it was for chris godwin i was like oh let me see if godwin's
Starting point is 00:09:31 still available uh because i was multitasking to a degree that i've never done before um uh while doing this draft in any event so i i saw godwin was much lower and michael thomas was much lower and so i ended up with both of those guys while still building a very, you know, good roster in my opinion. Um, and Lazard, I think it was a little bit lower as well.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So I ended up with all three of those guys that I thought were just amazing costs. Yeah. I'm looking at ESPN ADP right now. And tomorrow, by the way, we're going to have an ADP review and Heath's going to tell us as we do it, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:02 on other websites, some of the best values, but Michael Thomas is wide receiver 33 on ESPN. Chris Goblin is wide receiver 27. Hunter Renfro is going just ahead of Michael Thomas in ESPN leagues. So he's really falling. And maybe people are right to be concerned. But if you like him, this is good for you because you can get value on him.
Starting point is 00:10:25 All right, so a content update for all of our loyal viewers and listeners. Tomorrow, as I mentioned, a complete ADP review. You got a big weekend of drafting coming up. So we're going to go through as much as we can starting in round one, best picks, worst picks, best values, all the things that are going to come up naturally throughout the show. Just talk about drafting. And we've got a Saturday mailbag that I'm pretty sure we're going to come up naturally throughout the show, just to talk about drafting. And we've got a Saturday mailbag that I'm pretty sure we're going to be recording tonight, me and Dan Schneier. So if you want to see it tonight or tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:10:50 it'll be on YouTube. If you want to wait until Saturday, you can listen to it on Saturday. Our show, we start at 9 a.m. Eastern right now, usually about 9, 10. We're going to move that to 8, 30 a.m. Eastern beginning Tuesday, I think, of next week. So just a little heads up there if you watch live. Also, if you don't watch live, it'll be available to 8.30 a.m. Eastern beginning Tuesday, I think, of next week. So just a little heads up
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Starting point is 00:11:46 but it's just incredible. Over $75,000. How many trivia questions did we answer? I only read 18 out of 20, and I think we got 13 or 14 right, but I knew we were going to... Is that not much? We were just going to donate.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Oh, well, technically, for your purposes, that would be $260. $260 is what the answers were? Yes. Okay, so I said I would match that. All right, thank you, Jamie. Awesome. $75,260.
Starting point is 00:12:15 All right. Sorry, let's get back on track. I did not realize that the Broncos are at the Seahawks in week one on Monday Night Football. I wish that were going to be a better game, but that is pretty cool. Russell Wilson back in his old digs, and he just signed a big contract extension. You just realized that? Yeah, yeah. I really, I know.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I know, I know. I probably knew at some point and forgot. Let's talk about an ADP riser, one of the biggest risers in CBS Sports ADP. Cole Komet. He is moving up 21 spots to 122nd overall. He's still tight end 13, Komet. He's still behind Mike Gasicki and Pat Fryermuth. On Fantasy Football Calculator, just over the last couple of days,
Starting point is 00:12:58 he's tight end, Cole Komet is tight end 12, ahead of TJ Hawkins. No, he's tight end 10. Somehow, someway, TJ Hawkinson is tied in 12 on Fantasy Football Calculator over the last couple of days. But anyway, Cole Komet, Jamie, is a riser. This happened last week, but I believe you moved him ahead of Zach Ertz. And I've been reaching for him a little bit in drafts because I do want to get him.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I don't want to go any later than Cole Komet, I think, if I can avoid that. Your thoughts on Cole Komet? First off, I think if you're buying Cole Komet, I think, if I can avoid that. Your thoughts on Cole Komet? First off, I think if you're buying Cole Komet, you're hoping he's going to score touchdowns because last year he scored none. And so that's the biggest thing I think that has to change because you see what this receiving core is. We've dissected it so many times that it's Darnell Mooney who is not exactly the type of true number one receiver that you'd like to see for a roster. So that's just a start right there.
Starting point is 00:13:47 But then it's, you know, Byron Pringle and Vilas Jones Jr. and Tajay Sharp and Equinemius St. Brown. It's just, you know, it feels like a lot of names. And so Justin Fields obviously is going to have some struggles just because of the offensive line and not having a lot of key receivers. But I think you've seen it. You know, he's looking for his tights. It's not just him.
Starting point is 00:14:04 It's not just Komet. You know, we saw it in the preseason game. It was Ryan Griffin seen it. You know, he's, he's looking for his tight. It's not just him. It's not just commit. You know, we saw it in the, in the preseason game. It was Ryan Griffin as well. You know, he had touchdown catch there. He had another catch in the game,
Starting point is 00:14:10 um, in their final outing against the Browns. And so, I mean, it's just a lot to like about this scenario. You know, we've, we've highlighted this time and time again,
Starting point is 00:14:18 if, if the tight end can be number one or number two in targets on their respective teams, there's a path to success there. And there's a path to success for Cole commit. So if you're interested in drafting him, especially in PPR, you know, non PPR is where you're going to have to, you know, maybe take a little bit of lumps because they're not gonna score a lot of
Starting point is 00:14:34 touchdowns as a team. But if you're interested in non in PPR, half PPR, as soon as you see Hawkinson get drafted, start to think, okay, where am I in the draft? At what point do I need to get my tight end? And can I wait until the next manager takes Zach Ertz? Because he's probably going to be the next one that goes. But if you really want Cole Komet and you're aggressive targeting him, you see here we're a little bit higher than the industry, or at least higher than ADP. You should probably, as soon as Hawkinson goes, say, okay, now is probably the time I need to go get him and just make sure I lock him up. All right, one big ADP faller
Starting point is 00:15:08 is the aforementioned Michael Thomas. He, on CBS ADP, is about to be passed by Jerry Judy. ESPN ADP, he's way behind Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton. By the way, on ESPN, Cortland Sutton going one pick, one wide receiver pick behind Jerry Judy, but that's another topic for another day tomorrow. But Michael Thomas, Heath, he's now 70th overall. He's wide receiver 27 on CBS. He's still wide receiver 20, Michael Thomas, on FF Calculator over the last couple of days, but he's a round five pick. But is there any reason to take him in the fourth round now,
Starting point is 00:15:41 or should we just assume we can get Michael Thomas in the fifth round if we want him? Well, I think in one of our drafts, you might have to take him in round fourth round now or should we just assume we can get michael thomas in the fifth round if we want him well i think like in one of our drafts you might have to take him in round four if you want him but for basically everyone else no i don't think there's any reason to take him before round five um we've been the most aggressive on him and we're even cooling just a little bit until we hear that he's 100 again um he has i think still probably top 12 upside but this injury is just a reminder of how little football he's played and how like it's a not i wouldn't say likely but it's a it's a great possibility that it could be a wasted pick so would you take rashad bateman or michael thomas i still have michael thomas ahead of Rashad Bateman. I still have him as a top 24 wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:16:28 and Bateman is not in that range for me. But he's right there with Jalen Waddell, both two guys who have fallen recently. And I could make a justification for taking Adam Thielen or Marquise Brown over him. Those are the two guys I have right behind him. Jamie, you can get in on that too. Thomas or Bateman? I have right behind him. Jamie, you can get in on that too. Thomas or Bateman?
Starting point is 00:16:46 I would still take Thomas. I think this is going to be clearly not to the heights of what happened last year, but I think this is going to be one of those Jonathan Taylor type situations from a year ago where the
Starting point is 00:17:01 news, now clearly it was more for guys around Taylor when it was Quentin Nelson and Carson Wentz with the foot injuries and people panicked. They're obviously going to be cautious with him. They're going to be cautious with him because of what has happened. And he's not going to return to being the same player. So you don't have to be aggressively targeting Michael Thomas.
Starting point is 00:17:20 But I think to run away from Michael Thomas is a mistake. I don't think that this injury is that bad. And look, this could is that bad. And, and look, this could be something I regret saying, but I think he's still got the opportunity to be a top 20 caliber receiver to be performing and producing like where Dave hasn't ranked. You know, I, I'm, I'm with Heath. I should probably, you know, look at my rankings again and say maybe he's a spot or two high,
Starting point is 00:17:43 but I still think that if you end up with Michael Thomas and he plays the majority of the season, then you're going to be really, really rewarded with some fine production and some quality performances because he's still going to be the target leader and one of the target leaders at the receiver position in the NFL, but certainly for the Saints. All right, a few more here. Michael Thomas or Jerry Judy?
Starting point is 00:18:04 Still Thomas for me. It's Thomas this morning. I do not want to commit to this afternoon. It's like they are right in the same range. Michael Thomas or Deontay Johnson? Deontay. And what about the idea of drafting Michael Thomas in round five and drafting Chris Olave in round 10?
Starting point is 00:18:29 It's a good friendship strategy. I would also say if you wanted to do that, you could also do Jarvis Landry in round 15. Okay. And here's a segment that we should have done weeks ago, but we'll do it right now, Heath, real quick. Best ball tips. If you have a best ball draft coming up.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Maybe months ago, actually. Well, more people are doing best ball. This is a failure on my part. I've done more best ball drafts this year than I ever have. Give me a few guidelines. What changes in a best ball draft for you compared to a regular redraft league? It really depends on whether you're talking about a best ball league
Starting point is 00:19:03 where it's just you and 11 other guys and it's one league and you're just taking lineup setting out of the equation, which I have several of those and love them. Or if you're talking best ball tournaments, which I think is what most people are talking about when they talk best ball and it's, you're competing in a league, but you're also competing against hundreds of thousands of people trying to win a championship like a GPP. And so I think first and foremost in best ball stacking is more important. Almost required. You want plays that correlate with each other, even to the point that if you're in one of the larger tournaments where it's going to come down to week 16, week 17, you actually want to stack like a DFS lineup for week 16 or week 17 to put up the biggest possible numbers.
Starting point is 00:19:47 The second thing I would say is if it's just a league, it's a 12-team league, it's best ball, then floor matters a little bit more. Those compilers can be more important. But if you're in the big tournaments, the reason guys like Gabe Davis end up with around 4 ADP because it's those upside guys. How many quarterbacks and tight ends do you draft?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Because best ball, it's usually more than 20 rounds, so you've got a lot of bench spots. So how many quarterbacks and tight ends? Two to three. And the two would only be if I had two that I really liked. But I won't generally go with more than three. It's generally two or three. How many DSTs? If I have two, two or three. And do you put more priority on tight end? Because
Starting point is 00:20:32 you know, you can't stream, you can't play the matchups, can't do anything like that. Do you want a tight end that you know is going to be someone that you would never even consider taking out of your lineup? Well, I won't have to decide whether I take them out of my lineup or not because their score will determine that. I meant one of the guys that are must-starts. It would be difficult for me to value tight end more than I already do. But I do think that it opens up more possibilities because if you're telling me that I can draft Cole Komet and Tyler Higbee and Irv Smith in round 10, 11, and 12 or whatever,
Starting point is 00:21:10 and I never have to choose which one of those guys start, I just need one of them to be start worthy each week, then I actually almost feel better about that. Okay. And finally, do you take a lot of handcuffed running backs, the guys that could be great if the guy gets hurt in front of them? But not my own. But yes, they are more of a priority.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Okay. By the way, a guy named Joseph in here says, he said a little harsh, Joseph, said, talk auction, you bums. We call it salary cap now. And if you want some salary cap draft tips, our previous, I think it was our last mailbag, our most recent mailbag, Saturday's episode, whatever that was, the last Saturday
Starting point is 00:21:51 of August. Dan Schneier laid out some great tips. We spent about 10, 15 minutes, I'd say, on salary cap drafts. Dan loves them. He does them all the time. Very, very good. We got good feedback on that. So if you have not heard that mailbag episode, you don't even have to listen to the whole thing. I've got time codes in the episode description. They're approximate. I can't get the exact time codes in the episode descriptions because of the ads that sometimes play. But just check out that salary cap talk there. I think it'll be really helpful. And also, you should know that the episodes do have time codes in them. If you don't read the episode descriptions, you can skip around to different segments if you want.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Like I said, they're not the best time codes. They're approximate because the ads, they change, and sometimes they're not even there. So I do my best to help you out. We're going to take a quick break. We are also doing a salary cap draft tomorrow that Dave will write up the results, and they'll be on the site.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yes. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we've got some news and notes, big news and notes for you. And ADP risers and fallers, more bold predictions. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. All right, Jamie, I'm going to need you to help me remember something here
Starting point is 00:22:57 because I have a terrible memory. But you had Michael Fabiano on yesterday. Big name in the fantasy. I did remember that. But I believe he said that, you know, he spoke to some people and he's under the impression that Brian Robinson could be back sooner rather than later. You know, he was very fortunate with what happened and painted a pretty optimistic picture of a return anyway for Brian Robinson. Is that fair to say? He did. I think he said he spoke to someone who knows Robinson's agent, I believe. And so
Starting point is 00:23:28 the transaction clearly were good for Brian Robinson. The fact that he's still currently on the 53-man roster. Now, they could still, if I understand it correctly, elect to put him on short-term IR, which would keep him out for the first four weeks. And so if that still happens, I would not be surprised. And I think, you know, even what Fabs alluded to was, you know, still having him back on the field at the early part of the season. He did not indicate, if I remember what he said correctly, that he'd be ready for week one.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So I think it's just something you got to keep an eye on here. You know, the fact that he's alive first and foremost is great second part that he's you know was already at the team facility and you know visiting his teammates and you know that's that's amazing as well um but if he's able to play before october my god that would just be you know a miracle and and we'd love to see it so for those of you that are still drafting it's absolutely worth your time to take uh or to your interest in your fantasy roster to draft brian robinson probably as early as round 10 i would say um and it just should you know keep you a little bit cool on antonio gibson knowing that not only is robinson have the chance
Starting point is 00:24:42 to return sooner than maybe we expected but also they're going to add somebody else. I mean, they can't just go with even what they have right now. They need to add probably a fourth guy also, because the only two running backs, as far as I know that they have on their, the only three running backs I have on the roster are Gibson, McKissick and Robinson.
Starting point is 00:24:57 So they need to add some depth there. Well, a quick case for Antonio Gibson. It's, you know, let's assume that Brian Robinson's not ready for week one maybe not week two
Starting point is 00:25:08 if Jamie, like you said if he goes on short-term IR he's out at least four weeks the first two games of the season for Washington are Jacksonville and Detroit and I know Jacksonville they beefed up their defense a little bit
Starting point is 00:25:19 they signed Folo I'm not going to pronounce his name right Folo Fadukasi from the Jets they signed Foye Aluokan from pronounce his name right. Folo Fadukasi from the Jets. They signed Foye Aluokan from the Falcons at defensive tackle and linebacker, respectively. They obviously drafted Trayvon Walker. But, you know, starting with the Jaguars and the Lions
Starting point is 00:25:37 could be a really nice way for Antonio Gibson to get back in the good graces of Ron Rivera, assuming he's not in the good graces now. I can't speak to that, but we've seen a lot that suggests what it suggests. So that's something to keep in mind. I remember several years ago, Aaron Jones, was he suspended for the first two games of the year?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Is that what it was? And Jamal Williams had the Bears and the Vikings, maybe two brutal run defenses to start the year, and he stunk. And it played exactly the way I thought it would, and then he didn't do anything to claim that job. But this is the exact opposite for Antonio Gibson. He has a really good opportunity to put his best foot forward. Speaking of which, is J.K. Dobbins limping Heath?
Starting point is 00:26:19 He did not like being called out for what looked like a limp after a drill. He looked good in the drill, but I guess I can't say for sure he was limping. But what do you make of this Dobbins situation? He does not like any insinuation that he might not play a full season and be 100%. He would like everyone to know he's going to be awesome and fine. And basically everyone else who's talking about it is saying that's not going to be the case. So we're going to find out in 10 days. I am more nervous about Dobbins than I have been for most of the offseason. I still think there's a chance in the second half of the season that he's a league winner as a running back, and so I don't want to let him fall too far.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I put out a Twitter poll this morning between Dobbins, Elijah Mitchell, and Cam Akers because those are three guys that I think kind of fit in the same bucket, have top 12 upside if everything goes right may or may not be 100 healthy right now certainly elevated risk injury for all three Mitchell won the poll Dobbins was second Akers was third and Akers was not very close to the other two who would your pick have been well that's what I'm trying to figure out today, Adam. That's why I asked Twitter so they could set my rankings for me. Right now, my pick would be Akers.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Okay. Well, you're not listening to Twitter there. The Charger signed Sony Michel. Jamie, first of all, is Michel the handcuff to get for Eckler? And will he be a goal line option that could actually hurt Austin Eckler? I mean, he obviously could be a goal line option that could hurt Eckler.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I would not approach it that way, though. I think you just have to trust that Eckler has shown the coaching staff enough based on how he performed last year that he should be on the field as much as possible, but he'll just be spilled at times. I don't know if it's going to be they're down at the one and we're taking Austin Eckler off the field. I can't see that happening. Should he be the handcuffs? Probably.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So I think just because Spiller's, you know, coming back from an injury, it doesn't appear like they fully trust them. I mean, you know, just going with how they treated Kelly and round tree before Spiller got hurt, you know, maybe Spiller was building towards something. We don't know that, but I think the fact that they made this transaction, is it really more knowing that there's a proven guy, former first-round pick available in Sonny Michel that was good for, you know, the Rams last year in their same city?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Or is it more, you know, that they just don't really trust the other three guys fully, you know, or the other two guys, I guess, fully in terms of Kelly and Roundtree. So I would approach it if you want to draft a handcuff. I don't think you have to, but if you want to take Sonny Michel, I would not be surprised, though, if there's an Eckler injury that we're seeing a committee between Michel and Spiller and maybe even Kelly.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Darren Waller practiced on Wednesday, making progress. That was amazing. He got an agent. He got an agent. Hamstring healed up. San Francisco waved Trey's sermon. Jeff Wilson still the best guy to get there
Starting point is 00:29:07 behind Elijah Mitchell question mark so okay yeah I would say this though if you're if you have
Starting point is 00:29:13 a deep roster and Jordan Mason is available take a flyer it's the 49ers you never know I got him in our first run
Starting point is 00:29:22 of YOLO waivers last night for five dollars out of my thousand dollar budget Adam what do you think I got him in our first run of YOLO waivers last night for $5 out of my $1,000 budget. Adam, what do you think I got Isaiah Pacheco for out of $1,000? I'll give you a hint. $135. It was double what I bid. $10, that's it?
Starting point is 00:29:39 No. Double what I bid on Pacheco. Oh, on Pacheco. $135. No. Isaiah likely went for 178, so recalibrate. Okay. Isaiah Pacheco in a deep dynasty league, 14-team dynasty league, right?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yes. $516. Closer. $615. No, you're going the other way. 401. 401. 401K. All right. Houston plans to re-sign Mar you're going the other way. 401. 401. 401k.
Starting point is 00:30:06 All right. Houston plans to re-sign Marlon back to the practice squad. I did 201. Oh. You know we have a new feature on our site, by the way. Yes. You can share waiver moves and bids on FAB. Yeah, you can produce a full report so people know all the bids.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Yeah, so everybody can see what the other bids were. You don't have to do it, but vote on that. We'll be doing that. Zach Ertz and Rondell Moore may not be ready for week one. Holy cow, Marquise Brown, that would be big. They got the Chiefs in week one, but Zach Ertz and Rondell Moore, they could be close for week one. We'll have to check on that.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Are we in deeper leagues? And I'm going to feel gross by saying this. Not mentioning that we should probably take a flyer on A.J. Green. Has anyone said A.J. Green's name this year? Is that necessarily a bad thing, though?
Starting point is 00:30:56 I mean, he hasn't been hurt. Or it's like Jalen Waddell, and he's actually been hurt the whole time, and we just, nobody told us. Heath, what you don't know is that I vowed to take a drink of alcohol every time someone said A told us. Heath, what you don't know is that I vowed to take a drink of alcohol every time someone said A.J. Green's name this year, and I haven't had anything to drink. Well, you've got four drinks now because we just said it.
Starting point is 00:31:13 No, it's over. It ended on August 31st. It was an August thing. Yeah, all right, so this is something to keep in mind here, and hopefully those guys are back. Matt LaFleur said the Packers are going to spread the ball around on offense and use a number of different receivers. Did that matter to anybody? Not yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Kadarius Toney looks trending in the right direction for week one at the Titans. Free agent left tackle Jason Peters, old veteran, I think a 15-year veteran. He visited the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones said that rookie Tyler Smith is their left tackle. See if they have interest in Peters. Cincinnati expected to sign tight end O.J. Howard. Hayden Hurst is currently their top tight end. Don't think Howard would be a threat there.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Go ahead. Nope. Okay. Chargers tight end Donald Parham. I don't think it's Parham. I think it's Parham. But he participated in individual drills, and he's been out for a while with a hamstring injury,
Starting point is 00:32:09 but Parham, there was a report that basically he was even with Gerald Everett, so this might have a fantasy impact. Keep an eye on that. Minnesota acquired Jalen Rager, the wide receiver that the Eagles drafted one spot ahead of Justin Jefferson two years ago. Now he's on Minnesota with Justin Jefferson for a couple of late picks. Does this matter? Don't think so. Sounds like they're bringing him in to be a special teams return guy. I do think it makes, and this was probably the case already, but it's just a reminder that Quez Watkins is pretty clearly
Starting point is 00:32:44 the number three wide receiver in Philadelphia, and A.J. Brown's had plenty of injury history, so there could be some best ball or late round or waiver appeal for Watkins at some point. Chicago claimed offensive lineman Alex Leatherwood. That's who the Raiders waived the other day. First round pick just a couple of years ago. Bears need that help on the offensive
Starting point is 00:33:05 line. And to dip into the pop culture waters a little bit, today on Twitter, I noticed that it is Zendaya's birthday. And I would say that I have never done a 180 on a show the way I did on Euphoria. I thought it was the single worst show I had ever seen in season one. And as I kept watching, I realized it's actually a quite brilliant show and a must-watch show if you've never seen Euphoria. So happy birthday, Zendaya. Thank you for opening my eyes to the greatness of Euphoria. All right, let's talk about some ADP risers. Oh, Damian Pierce up to 59th overall, 24 spots up in CBS Sports ADP.
Starting point is 00:33:43 On Fantasy Football Calculator over the last couple days, he's a sixth round pick, so pretty similar ADP. But, you know, what I have a hard time figuring out is if a guy is now up 24 spots and he's 59th overall in ADP on CBS,
Starting point is 00:34:00 what's his actual ADP over the last week? Because it was much lower. The average has pulled it up to 59th overall. Is he going in round four? I don't know how much more time we need to spend on Damian Pierce. I don't want to make every episode a Damian Pierce episode, and we've already talked about him. But I guess
Starting point is 00:34:16 just tell me, guys, 12 team league, in which round are you drafting Damian Pierce? PBR? Yeah. Round five. Four or five turn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And are we at AJ Dillon or Damian Pierce? God, I go back and forth on these guys so much. Pierce. Dillon and non-PPR Pierce and non PPR Pearson full PPR maybe it should be the other way around
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm not sure yeah I would say I prefer Dylan and PPR because I think at least we've we can expect him to be involved in the passing game based on how last year ended well the thing I mean people talk about AJ Dylan had 34 catches or something last year something like that 35 almost all of that was within air not almost all of it but much of it was with aaron jones out and then i think there was one game if i remember correctly where aaron
Starting point is 00:35:13 jones played and dylan had a lot of catches and that was the jordan love game so things should change without davante adams but just to get your tickets aj dylan was the second guy on the list he's up 10 spots he's now 64th overall. He's just behind Damian Pierce, who's at 59th overall in our ADP, but those are two of the biggest risers at running back. But when Aaron Rogers and Aaron Jones were healthy, A.J. Dillon was very
Starting point is 00:35:36 uninvolved in the passing game. Do you think that changes this year? Yes, because Devontae Adams is gone. Okay. Rashad Penny is gone. Okay. Rashad Penny is up six spots, and he gets Denver in week one on Monday night. Not sure if you guys are aware.
Starting point is 00:35:53 He's up to 87th overall in CBS ADP. He's RB 34. Over on Fantasy Football Calculator, he's a round six pick, Rashad Penny, and he's RB 28. Are we sleeping on Rashad Penny? Remember at one point, Jamie, you said, you know, we should probably just pay attention to the reports that Rashad Penny is the starter and Pete Carroll saying Rashad Penny is the starter and he loves Rashad
Starting point is 00:36:15 Penny. And then Ken Walker got hurt and we don't even know if he's going to be ready for week one. I mean, is round seven, round eight where he's going on CBS, is that a steal for Rashad Penny? How do you feel about him? It's very good value. This Seattle offense feels like it could be an absolute disaster, but it's still going to present good values for several guys. You've noted time and again his explosive plays and when he's played the seven games where he's had, I forget the carries that you always mention. Twelve or more? Yeah, he's going to get that, you know, so he's probably not going to get to the same heights, but, um, he still has the opportunity to, to reward
Starting point is 00:36:53 you. So, uh, we we've noted this, he's a good art zero RB candidate, you know, cause while he's healthy, you could probably start him as at least the flex, if not a number two running back. And so just a matter of, you know, do you want to take more of a long-term or short-term approach with Rashad Penny? So I think he belongs in the conversation with some of these questionable guys, Antonio Gibson, Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, Miles Sanders, you know, whoever you want to throw into this category.
Starting point is 00:37:16 You know, so as early as round six, I think is safe. Round seven is probably the latest he should go. And then it's just a matter of at what point do you want to buy into Ken Walker when the hope that he can return at what point do you want to buy into Ken Walker in the hope that he can return at some point and maybe returns at the point where there is that Rashad Penny injury. I love pairing Penny in round seven with Akers or Dobbins in round five or six or even Elijah Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:37:38 These guys that we're just not sure if they're going to be full goes at the start of the year. Maybe Mitchell's fine now. But I think that specifically the Dobbins-Penney pairing could work out really, really well. Rashad Penny had some of the best metrics of any running back last year. And in seven games in his career with 12 or more carries,
Starting point is 00:38:00 he has scored at least one touchdown in all seven games. He has rushed for 108 or more yards in six of seven games. He has averaged 7.7 yards per carry in those seven games. Four of them came at the end of last season. Rashad Penny was terrific, and he has been basically whenever he's gotten the opportunity. The opposite, though, for Gibson. Gibson's got the easy schedule the first two weeks. The first two games of the season for Seattle are Denver and San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Denver did not have a great run defense last year, but they did have a great defense, and they did sign a very good run defender from the 49ers and DJ Jones to play nose tackle. And then maybe that weakens the 49ers, but the Niners had one of the best run defenses in football last year. So I don't know if that matters to you guys, because if you just look at yards per carry
Starting point is 00:38:46 last year for Rashad Penny down the stretch, when he faced good run defenses, including the 49ers, he wasn't nearly as good. I mean, he got a lot of work, and I think he put up a decent number. I think he scored or something, but he had a kind of David Montgomery thing where he just crushed these weak opponents. So I do think this matters a little bit to me, that the first two weeks might be tough sledding for, uh,
Starting point is 00:39:06 for the offense in general, not gonna be a lot of points. I know Heath, like you're going to look at Vegas implied implied totals for the teams. And I think that they're going to have trouble scoring against the Broncos and the 49ers in weeks one and two. And then who knows what that means for Penny if, uh, if they're struggling and Ken Walker's getting healthier.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah. I mean, I think they're probably gonna have trouble scoring for most of the year, but they are, um, we're also going to project Penny for 20 plus carries the first couple weeks of the season, assuming that Walker's not ready to go. So that's going to a riser. He's up eight spots. He's now RB35. Rashad Penny's RB34. On Fantasy Football Calculator, Penny's RB28 and Edmonds is RB31.
Starting point is 00:39:52 He's a late round six pick. Before Damian Pierce, Jamie, I feel like Chase Edmonds was a guy that we were talking about a lot as a riser for you. How are you feeling about Chase Edmonds right now and would you take him or Rashad Penny? I would take Edmonds in PPR.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I would take Penny in non-PPR. I mean, Edmonds is in a good spot. You know, he's got the opportunity to, you know, be the lead running back for the Dolphins. And really, you know, you're banking on Raheem Mostert staying healthy for a full season, which we just haven't seen. And so, you know, the fact that they got rid of
Starting point is 00:40:24 Sonny Michel, I think is a good indication for both those guys that they feel pretty comfortable with them, or we're just completely overlooking, maybe Myles Gaskin having a role at some point this season. And all of a sudden we're back on that bandwagon again. But I think in just in terms of Chase Edmonds, as this team seems to operate or want to operate, you know, they're going to try and run the ball more.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And it's not really what happened in the preseason is something you should judge because Toronto Armstead didn't play. So we'll see when the offensive line is fully intact. The thing that could really help Chase Edmonds is if Mike Gusecki's role stays the way it seems like it's going to stay and Jalen Waddell is limited or out for the start of the season, he may be their second best receiver. So it could be a fun start to Chase Edmonds' Miami tenure. And then we'll see how far that goes. Would you take Clyde Eberts-Ziller, Miles Sanders start to Chase Edmonds' Miami tenure, and then we'll see how far that goes.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Would you take Clyde Eberd-Ziller, Miles Sanders, or Chase Edmonds? Edmonds in PPR, Clyde in none. Yeah, I've got Clyde and Edmonds very, very close in PPR. I'm not sure, but it's definitely Clyde in non-PPR. Full PPR, I will go Clyde as well but they're back-to-back. Would you take Chase Edmonds over Devin Singletary and Cordero Patterson?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's not even close, by the way, in ADP. Both Singletary and Patterson are way ahead of Edmonds. Edmonds or Tony Pollard? Edmonds. Edmonds or Tony Pollard? Edmonds. Yeah, Edmonds. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Heath, I'm going to give you the last two here. You've been talking about Robert Woods for a while. He is moving up, but he's still 116th overall, Robert Woods. He's 101st overall on Fantasy Football Calculator just after DeAndre Hopkins and Christian Kirk. So I assume you love Robert Woods if you can get him around pick 100 and also explain this one to me kansas city kicker harrison butker is up 12 spots to 127th overall uh yeah i'm sorry people should not be taking kickers in round 11 so that's a bad job by them but no i think this is a great spot for robert
Starting point is 00:42:26 woods who at the very least we can say is going to start the year as the clear number one wide receiver for the titans there's a chance that trailing burks at some point everything comes together for him and he's he becomes the number one i think that's definitely a possibility but early in the year i would expect we're getting seven to eight targets per game for Robert Woods. I wonder if Butker is like the highest projected kicker and those are auto picks or something, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:51 don't take your kicker that early. ADP fallers, Damian Harris down seven spots. So he's still 56 overall. So right now, according to ADP, Harris is still just ahead of AJ Dj dylan and damian pierce but in our rankings that's definitely not the case and maybe in the most recent adp just over
Starting point is 00:43:12 the last few days maybe that's not the case but on average harris is still rb23 just ahead of damian pierce and a.j dylan which like that 56 overall is exactly where I would take him in a non-PPR league. And these are a blend of non and full PPR. But any sort of PPR, he's just a screaming bust at that cost. The thing that scares me the most about Harris is that we keep saying he's going to be okay in non-PPR and trust him in non-PPR. And I don't think anything he said is incorrect. This team may be awful. They really may be awful.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And he scored 15 touchdowns last year with minimal catches, and the yardage was fine. If the yardage comes down and the touchdowns get cut in half, what are we looking at here? Yeah. And he dominated the carries inside the five-yard line. He had, what did I say? He had 12, and Ramondre Stevenson had five last year.
Starting point is 00:44:08 What if that changes? So that's the same question you just asked, but the touchdowns coming down, but there was a reason why he had all the touchdowns. He had all the opportunities for the touchdowns. That could easily change. Now the flip side of that is, if what we did get a small sample size of him staying on the
Starting point is 00:44:26 field and passing downs, then he can end up being a pretty good bargain. But it's just hard to figure that's going to be the case with Stevenson and all the things that they've said this offseason. And the fact that, you know, Ty Montgomery didn't get placed on the art, at least as of yet. Yeah. So I just don't know what to make of it. Like, I just, you know, Stevenson, when he was at a cost, felt like just a good buy. And he still might be. But it's just like, this just feels like a team.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And you said this very early in the offseason, Adam. Like, you don't want to draft any Patriots. Like, it's probably the smart move to do. One stat of Ramondre Stevenson that really I don't like is that his longest run last year was 21 yards. If all you want him to do is run the ball in from inside the five, fine.
Starting point is 00:45:10 But if people are really... Because I just feel like maybe it's more our show or something because ADP certainly suggests people love Harris. He's like 40 spots ahead of Stevenson. But Harris has actually been a very good runner. I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth because I see huge bus potential, but Harris has had a good career.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Stevenson, I don't know why people love him so much. He's good, you know, at his role, but I don't think he's an explosive player at all. He's big. He's like LeGarrette Blount. I compared him to LeGarrette Blount when he got drafted. Those guys have to score touchdowns. He doesn't make big plays. Maybe he will.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Maybe he'll be better this year. But to me, that's not really who he is. And we never really talk about that. But I think Harris is probably the better runner. But then again, I don't know that it really matters because they're going to be used pretty similarly. It's bottom line. It's just because Damian Harris had
Starting point is 00:46:05 a long run or two last year that you think that? No, I mean, look, he was really good two years ago with Cam Newton, and we said the efficiency will come down because he doesn't have the mobile quarterback, and it did come down, but he still had a very healthy yards per carry. His advanced metrics are solid. It was the exact
Starting point is 00:46:21 same as Ramon Ray Stephenson's last year, though, right? I don't think so. I don't know. Maybe. But he had more big plays. I mean, for a guy to have no carry longer than 21 yards, he's a big running back. He's not fast. He's not an explosive player, Ramond Ray Stevenson. That's really not a knock on him.
Starting point is 00:46:37 It's just that's not his profile. So I don't know that if people are expecting him to have this huge breakout season, some are. I don't really. If people are expecting him to have this huge breakout season, some are. I don't really know that he's that guy in Ramondre Stevenson. I think Harris has been a better runner. I think it's more likely that he becomes a pass catcher than Damian Harris. Yeah, that's that for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:57 But Ty Montgomery, like Jamie said, is still not on IR. And there was an encouraging report about him. All right, I've basically talked around in circles about the Patriots running back, so I'm sorry. So, would you rather like, what's the, you guys have Harris ranked ahead of Stevenson or no? Yes. In non-PPR, PPR
Starting point is 00:47:16 it's, I go back and forth. Right now I think Stevenson may be a spot higher until I get Montgomery News. Alright, so the bottom line is, I'm so sorry, go ahead. No, in full P ppr they're really really close but what i've noticed and i've got stevenson one spot i had ever head of heiress but pick 96 and 97 so i'm not getting either but in a couple of the uh the higher stakes drafts i've done just this past week stevenson's going way ahead of Harris. Like, it's not just our podcast thing.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Because people think he's going to catch the passes. Well, and partially because people don't want to draft Damian Harris. So, yeah, the bottom line is if you can get Stevenson later than Harris, that is what you should do, and that is what ADP suggests. Okay, Adam Thielen is down nine spots
Starting point is 00:48:05 to 70th overall. I didn't know what the reasoning for this was. He's now wide receiver 26th, and he's also wide receiver 26th on Fantasy Football Calculator, and he's basically got the same ADP as Marquise Brown. Who would you guys rather have, Adam Thielen
Starting point is 00:48:22 or Marquise Brown, and is there any reason why Thielen should be dropping in ADP? Not necessarily a reason he should be dropping. You know, he's in that group of guys that just, it feels like, you know, I don't want to say it's like the wide receiver dead zone because it's not the case at all, but it just feels like there's just this group of receivers that, there's so many different variables that can happen. And so, you know, between him and Bateman and Judy and Juju and for me, Metcalf, you know, and Marquise Brown, you know, I think he's in there too.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Michael Thomas is probably in that conversation too. You know, I put Waddle in there too. There's plenty of upside. You know, I mean, he could score. You see the projections. You know, and Heath, I think, has made a very good comp of, you know, Adam Dillon and Gabe Davis, you know i mean he could score you see the projections you know and heath i think has made a very good comp of you know adam dealin and gabe davis you know because of of what their kind of expectations are because a lot of touchdowns and so if you want a cheaper gabe davis adam deal is it and the difference is that adam dealin has done it before as heath has noted
Starting point is 00:49:17 so it's not it's not a bad guy to settle for i just don't want to risk because of what his injuries have been. Plus, I do think that they're going to use KJ Osborne a lot. I think they really love him. Alright. Dak Prescott is down 15. Oh, I'm sorry. Marquise Brown or Adam Thielen? Who would you rather have? Brown. I've got Thielen one spot higher. This is exactly where I have them ranked.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Both of them ranked, though. Dak Prescott is down 15 spots to 74th overall. He's QB 12 on CBS. He's QB 10 on Fantasy Football Calculator. Dak Prescott is down 15 spots to 74th overall. He's QB 12 on CBS. He's QB 10 on Fantasy Football Calculator. Dak Prescott just ahead of Tom Brady, like we said. Tom Brady doesn't have that ADP on CBS, but in a lot of sites, Tom Brady's closer to QB 10, 11. But Dak Prescott being down to QB 12,
Starting point is 00:50:00 this is a bit of a repeat of the last time we did this segment here, but Heath, your thoughts on Prescott being a faller? Well, I think it's just because he doesn't have any upside is the problem. No, it obviously makes sense. He had an offensive lineman get hurt. Everybody's kind of coming around, including me, slowly to the idea that the Cowboys don't have as good of receiving core and the Cowboys don't have near as good of offensive line,
Starting point is 00:50:24 and maybe the Cowboys' offense just isn't going to be quite as good as we hoped i still believe that if jalen tolbert is good or michael gallup can get back to 100 soon the deck could absolutely be a top five quarterback but there's a little bit more risk than there was now i kind of used that viewed deck as the safe quarterback with top five upside, and now he's not quite as safe, but still has top five upside. How about a look at Jamie's bold predictions, Heath's bold predictions? Let's get to it. We've already given you four. Jamie said Michael Pittman will be wide receiver one. Heath said, no, DJ Moore will be wide receiver one. Actually, I think it was the reverse order there. Jamie said Damian Pierce is going to outscore Brees Hall and Ken Walker combined.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And Heath gave us a new one that was off script. Let's see if I remember it. Oh, I had to scroll up because I wrote it down. Tyler Higbee will be a top six fantasy tight end. Look at that. Great memory. So, Heath, let's go back to you. Give me another
Starting point is 00:51:22 bold prediction. Aaron Jones will lead all running back with 80 catches and finish the season as RB1 in full PPR leagues. Yeah. Who are the candidates to lead? Who are the top five in running back catches? Five most likely to lead all running backs in catches. McCaffrey. Eckler, Kamara, Saquon, and Aaron Jones.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Jamie, you approve that list? You like it? There's one guy that could have been on the list. Swift. I mean, he left out Na'im Hines. I would say Naja belongs on that list oh you were thinking swift or nausea heath i was thinking nausea was the guy i left off oh okay okay all right jamie let's go back to you how about trey lance will be qb3 well i figured that
Starting point is 00:52:21 heath was going to stick with the one that he had earlier that jalen hur Hurst would be QB1, so I didn't want to go there. And I don't think Josh Allen is going to fall from the graces of one or two. So I'd just say Trey Lance would be three. It's tough to trust Trey Lance at this point. A lot of people are concerned. I was listening to NFL radio on SiriusXM, and they were saying how just unprecedented this was. It's their morning drive show.
Starting point is 00:52:41 How unprecedented this was for the 49ers to keep jimmy garoppolo knowing that he took them to the nsc championship game last year and he's taking them to a super bowl and how this could divide the locker room and all the things that you would expect when you have a quarterback like trey lance who has struggled at times in camp and struggled in the preseason at times but also i think you know we haven't seen the full picture together because debo's been banged up and trent williams hasn't been on the field and we haven't seen the full picture together because Debo's been banged up and Trent Williams hasn't been on the field, and we haven't just seen the whole puzzle come together. And I'm excited to see what it's going to look like.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I'm excited to see what that first game against the Bears is going to show us, and then week two against Seattle. And if he gets off to a good start, I think he'll be off to the races. We also haven't seen him run, and that's the biggest thing. If he's not going to run, he's going to be one of the biggest busts in fantasy because of how people like me have been hyping him up. But if he runs and you get those 500, 600,
Starting point is 00:53:30 700, 800, 900, 1,000 yard performance that he could potentially give you, then he has a chance to be a top five fantasy quarterback. It's all going to be depending on his legs. If he's going to try and win games for San Francisco strictly with just throwing the ball, they're going to be in trouble and fantasy managers are going to be screaming
Starting point is 00:53:46 at people like me. Okay, let's go back to Jamie. This one. Which one's bolder, Heath? Trey Lance's QB3 or this one? Kyle Pitts scores 11 touchdowns. I think Trey Lance's QB3 is bolder than Kyle Pitts scoring 11 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:54:03 All right, Jamie. Kyle Pitts, 11 touchdowns. I'm, Jamie, Kyle Pitt's 11 touchdowns. I'm going to go ahead and say, you know, this is the normal jump for a sophomore that he's going to be tight end one with a bullet. If he has 11 touchdowns. Oh, not even close. I mean, he, he may, he may be wide receiver one. If we said what we saw last year, I'm just hopeful, you know, I want to see him find the end zone a little bit more, maybe a lot more,
Starting point is 00:54:25 maybe a ton more. You know, I mean to see him find the end zone a little bit more, maybe a lot more, maybe a ton more. You know, I mean, Heath is giving DJ more 55 touchdowns. I can give, you know, Kyle Fitz 11. You know, quarterback change, you know, receiving core, that's still unproven. You know, some more targets going his direction. You know, more understanding of the game, more understanding of the league. You know, Arthur Smith, more understanding of him and where to put him. So, you know, I think optimistically, if he has a career season in
Starting point is 00:54:48 touchdowns, which would not take more than two, but if he has, you know, the breakout campaign, probably eight touchdowns is realistic. But why stop there? Let's just keep, you know, throwing touchdowns upon touchdowns at what could be the best tight end in football. I sorry, guys, I think we have some breaking news and i'm going to try to confirm it but i think we have a player who was just placed on ir i'm going to try to confirm it before we go with it uh heath back to you and your bold predictions how about dallas goddard dallas goddard is go ahead you can give it i don't want to steal your yeah i'm just searching for the the player that went on ir now i'm not going
Starting point is 00:55:25 to be able to concentrate okay yeah it is it is confirmed um by the washington post okay brian robinson brian robinson on the non-football injury list so what is i don't know the timetable for that is that a four-week thing or indefinite i'll check okay so we'll get to that in a moment here uh heath you want to talk about dallas goddard tight end three i am going to read it i'll check okay so we'll get to that in a moment here uh heath you want to talk about dallas goddard tight end three i am going to read it i'll just read it right for you tight end three and he leads the eagles in touchdowns yeah i i think he's going to be i mean he'll be behind a.j brown and total targets on this team but i would expect like he's been a red zone monster in the past didn't get it done last, but this is really going to free him up
Starting point is 00:56:05 with all the attention that A.J. Brown gets. I think he could score 10 touchdowns, have 900 yards receiving, and be better than every tight end except for Mark Andrews and Travis Kelsey. It's four games. Okay. The NFI list, I'm reading it straight from NFL.com. The NFI list is similar to the PUP list, but is used for players who suffered injuries or ailments
Starting point is 00:56:24 outside of NFL activities. Players who begin the season on the NFI can be activated after the team has played its first four regular season games. Let's talk a little bit more about this then. So, first of all, you can now put them in an IR spot once the season starts. And, again, let's take a look at that schedule for Antonio Gibson and JD McKissick. That's Jacksonville at Detroit, Philadelphia, which should be a beast of a run defense, I would think,
Starting point is 00:56:54 and at Dallas. So when are you going to draft Antonio Gibson now with Robinson out at least four weeks? Round six. I was thinking round seven and again like i said this afternoon i'm gonna make some rankings updates but they're worth like this but six seven range seems about right for gibson yeah okay so yeah good if he if he smashes those couple of games and then doesn't do anything bad in the other two, why would they rush Robinson back? Right.
Starting point is 00:57:30 So would you rather have... Yeah, I think that we should... One thing, and it might be four weeks, but we should just clarify that the four weeks is a minimum. Minimum, yep. But certainly not a maximum. Damian Harris or Antonio Gibson? Gibson. It was already Gibson before this. Camian Harris or Antonio Gibson? Gibson.
Starting point is 00:57:45 It was already Gibson before this. Cam Akers. Gibson. Cam Akers. Clyde. Clyde. Gibson. Dylan.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Dylan. Dylan. Dylan. All right. So round six range for Antonio Gibson. And JD McKissick. Is he a good late-round PPR pick? Maybe better than a late-round pick. Okay, who are the true pass-catching backs?
Starting point is 00:58:18 Naeem Hines would be the first one. Well, unless you count Chase Edmonds. Yeah. Well, I mean, Chase Edmonds. Yeah. Then we've got to put Pollard in that category too, right? I guess so. Greenwood? You're thinking of the guys that are just going to be third down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Let's call this the Darren Sproles award. Who's nominated for the Darren Sproles award? Naeem Hines is nomination number one uh mckissick should be on that list jerek mckinnon should be on that list amir abdullah should be on that list montgomery when healthy is on that list maybe gainwell uh gainwell sure put him on that list um and i'm gonna say a deep name but if we're putting amir abdullah and time at government list i think rex Burkhead deserves to be on the list too. Sure. So who's number
Starting point is 00:59:05 two behind Hines? If you're putting Gainwell there, that's Gainwell for me. Rankings wise, yeah, it's Gainwell. James Cook belongs on this list? Yeah, we keep forgetting about him lately. We've talked about James Cook so much.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Would you take James Cook or or jd mckissick uh i would take james cook okay how about this is according to rapid port no one is rushing brian robinson he won't be on the field until he's ready but considering the original thought after he was first shot this is an incredible outcome yeah for, for sure. Heath, you have a Trey Lance bold prediction. It's that Justin Fields will outscore Trey Lance and finish top 10. Yeah, it's not a Trey Lance prediction. It's a Justin Fields prediction.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I just think there's now a four-round difference between them and the offensive weapons and the offensive coach around may be enough to make up for that. But I don't want people to forget that we have another quarterback who could average 50 or 60 yards rushing per game who has the same type of upside. He could be a top five, top ten quarterback if everything goes well.
Starting point is 01:00:19 And I truly believe that about Justin Fields. He's a fantastic athlete. He has shown the ability to throw the ball accurately. I wish he had a number two wide receiver. I'd feel better if he did, but I think we'll see some similar things to what the Packers did with their running backs in the passing game. It's one of the reasons I love David Montgomery. And so
Starting point is 01:00:36 Darnell Mooney, David Montgomery, Cole Komet, those three guys I think could give enough production to get Fields not to 4,000 yards, but over 3,000 yards. And he has the 1,000-yard rushing upside. Finish the show with a George Pickens bold prediction. The boldest, maybe, of my predictions. George Pickens will finish the year as rookie wide receiver one
Starting point is 01:00:56 and wide receiver one on the Steelers. He's just a phenomenal football player, and I think there's an underrated chance that he just really dominates to the point to where maybe he's getting the same number of targets as Deontay Johnson at some point towards the end of the year and producing more fantasy points on those targets than Johnson has.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I don't think that's your boldest prediction. I think DJ Moore as wide receiver one is your boldest prediction. Is it more likely that DJ Moore as wide receiver one is your boldest prediction. Is it more likely that DJ Moore finishes wide receiver one or George Pickens is better than Deontay Johnson at the end of the year? Easily Pickens for me. Jamie, what about you? What's more likely, Pickens being better than Deontay Johnson
Starting point is 01:01:40 or DJ Moore being the best wide receiver in fantasy? DJ Moore. Because Pickens could be the the best wide receiver in fantasy? DJ Moore. Because Pickens could be the number one wide receiver. I mean, he's... Well, which is more likely, more likely. Pickens. Yeah. Okay, that's...
Starting point is 01:01:55 Yeah. All right. Yeah, DJ Moore is bolder. Sorry, Heath. I know it's... For you, he's wide receiver four already, but that is still very... Wide receiver four in my head. Wide receiver four in my head.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Wide receiver one in my heart. There you go. All right. Thanks, everybody, for watching and listening. Fun show today. Thank you all for donating in our draft-a-thon. We'll talk to you. If you're on YouTube,
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