Fantasy Football Today - ADP Movers, Plant Your Flag! (09/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 4, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Who's moving up or down in the latest average draft position? We'll tell you about the risers (2:40) including Josh Jacobs, Isiah Pacheco and George Pickens and the fallers (12:00) including Najee Harris and Mike Evans ... News and notes (18:45) on Romeo Doubs, Cooper Kupp, the Chargers backfield and more. Then Adam "plants his flag" (26:40) with takes on Anthony Richardson, the Giants offense and the Titans offense ... Heath (35:40) and Jamey (38:50) get in on the "Plant Your Flag" fun as they discuss Miles Sanders, J.K. Dobbins, Jahan Dotson and others ... Email us at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We've got, what, 18 weeks of Sunday night podcasts. We're starting right now. Welcome, everybody, to Fantasy Football Today. Happy holiday. It is Labor Day weekend, but no day is off for us. We are working, and we are giving you this, for many of you, it will be a Monday episode, maybe even a Tuesday episode,

if you're out having some fun vacationing. Adam Azer, Jimmy Isenberg, and Heath Cummings, almost 9 o'clock. LSU, FSU, getting it on right now. So, yeah, it's football season, and we love it. We're going to tell you the biggest ADP risers and fallers in CBS ADP, and we'll react to it. We've got some news and notes for you. Kadarius Toney is going to be ready for week one.

That is five days away, or is it really? I don't even know, four days away at this point. And Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, four days away or is it really i don't even know four days away at this point and monday tuesday when it's four days away all right and uh that's that's the opener kansas city detroit i think i'm ready to stop talking now what's up jamie and heath uh anybody drafting this weekend two drafts tomorrow one more father son league and then uh uh my my keeper league that i started a few years ago. Adam, could you share your thoughts on Deion Sanders' first win at Colorado? You know, I'm glad you asked. Let me read you what I wrote to my friends, my two friends.

I had a feeling you had a take on this. I said this afternoon at 12.15, this is my Miami friends. We text all the time about Miami. I said, I think FSU and UF are no longer my least favorite college football teams. And my friend responded, Texas A&M because that's who Miami is playing this upcoming week. I said, I said, I think I want to direct every ounce of sports hate in my body to Colorado. Why? Coach Prime. I said, he just It's all about Coach Prime. He is so arrogant.

So, I don't know. Did you not watch him play? I know! He is who he is. It's the greatest thing that has happened to college football in a decade. I can't wait until Florida hires him. What are you talking about? Florida? He's clearly going to Florida State. I mean, if they even struggle a little bit,

he's going to Florida State. Nah, whatever. Good for him. Just joking around. He's obviously, you know, he's clearly going to Florida State. I mean, if they even struggle a little bit, he's going to Florida State. Nah, whatever, good for him, just joking around. He's obviously, you know, he's Coach Prime, but it is fun. It is definitely, he's taking things by storm a little bit, and I don't even know what conference they're in, to be honest with you. Big 12?

Apparently the Pac-12 will be the Big 12 next year. Big 12, there you go. All right, the biggest ADP risers. Too high, too low. Josh Jacobs is up to 17th overall. Just right. I think it'll keep rising a little bit more. And you're cool with that.

I am very cool with that. Jamie does not think he should be a first round pick. Jamie says 17th overall is just right for Josh Jacobs. You're on the clock. Garrett Wilson and Josh Jacobs are staring at you. You took... It doesn't matter. You took Travis Kelsey in the first round, so you don't even...

Who? Yeah, so what are you doing? Garrett Wilson. I'm going Jacobs. Isaiah Pacheco is up to 71st overall in CBS PPR average draft position. Cam Akers, Javante Williams, and DeAndre Swift are now behind Pacheco,

ahead of Akers, Javante, and Swift. How do we feel about him at 71, Pacheco? I've had more people tweet me this year about why don't you guys like Isaiah Pacheco? So I wonder if there's another site or another group of analysts who are higher on him than we are. I just don't think that he has much of a chance at the passing downs role.

I think McKinnon's first there and Clyde's probably second and Mahomes throws inside the five more than any other quarterback in the league. So I don't know that he has a huge role in terms of scoring touchdowns. I'm, I'm not in on him at all. Um, now granted, there's been a lot of injuries at the position,

but do you know what the most rushing touchdowns scored from a Patrick Mahomes running back has been that's Kareem Hunt right nine maybe the status since Hunt oh yeah they haven't had a top 20

running back since Kareem rushing touchdowns I don't know seven They haven't had a top 20 running back since Kareem. No, no, no. Rushing touchdowns. Just rushing touchdowns. Because that's where he has to win. I don't know. Seven. The only thing that makes me nervous about not being in on Pacheco is I have no Pacheco, is the lack of wide receiver options.

Do they throw more to their running backs on first and second down? And he gets two, three catches fairly regularly. Kareem Hunt only had seven with Patrick Mahomes. So that was not a three. Yeah. I don't think you can cite the lack of, like none of these receivers are worse prospects than Isaiah Pacheco. No, but he doesn't have Juju to throw to right now.

He doesn't have Hardman to throw to right now. Those were his leading wide receivers last year. So do the running backs just get more? Those are not the guys. Yeah, I just don't think those guys are that difficult to replace.

Okay. Look, I'm not arguing for it. I'm just bringing it up. All right. George Pickens is up 11 spots to 72nd overall, right behind Isaiah Pacheco. First of all,

who do you guys have ranked higher, Pacheco or Pickens? Pickens. I'm sure do you guys have ranked higher, Pacheco or Pickens? Pickens. I'm sure I have Pickens ranked higher. I have no interest in drafting either at the 6-7 turn. I'm fine with Pickens there, especially when we see the way receivers are going in the drafts we've done the last month.

Oddly, though, Pickens is going ahead of Deontay Johnson. That I don't like. He's going ahead of Jahan Dotson, right? That I don't like. Everyone's going ahead of Jahan Dotson, right? That I don't like. Oh, everyone's going ahead of Jahan Dotson. Pardon me. Dotson's going ahead.

Jahan? Yeah. That'd be a pretty cool name. 90th overall? I don't know for Jahan Dotson. Something like that. In CBS ADP, he's super low. So, he's going ahead.

Pickens is going ahead of Tyler Lockett. How do we feel about that? No. I'm okay with it. I had a moment last week or something where I'm in this father-son draft. It's a Scott Fish League,

and I think I may have mentioned it, but Lucas had the choice on the clock, and I'm trying not to give him... I'm just like, here's the guys who are available. You make the pick. And he picked George Pickens over Jahan Dotson, and I almost disowned him.

But I understand why it happens, because there's a lot more videos on social media of George Pickens making catches. And I think that's inflating his ADP. Yeah. By the way, I just want to make sure I don't say the wrong thing. I said that the Chiefs haven't had a top 20 running back since Kareem Hunt. They haven't had a top 20 per game running back since Kareem Hunt. They haven't had a top 20 per game running back

since Kareem Hunt. So just pointing that out. All right. Dalvin Cook is up four spots to 79th overall. Dalvin Cook is ahead of Khalil Herbert. Would you rather have Dalvin Cook or Khalil Herbert? I'd rather have Khalil Herbert. Yep. Me too. Another guy that I've just

not drafted. Zay Flowers is up four spots to 97th overall. He's a top 100 player, Zay Flowers, and he's ahead of Brandon Cooks and Michael Thomas. Good. Yes, I agree. Okay. Cortland Sutton's up four spots in ADP,

but he's still only 114th overall. How does Cortland Sutton, who starts with Las Vegas and then Washington, how does Cortland Sutton compare to Zay Flowers, Brandon Cooks, and Michael Thomas? Behind. I think I have Sutton ahead of Cooks and Thomas behind Flowers. And Sutton's kind of a unique case where if you've got a team with some guys that you think might not,

or especially if you have a flex situation where you're not sure you have a week one starter, Sutton is a much better pick. Would you start Cortland Sutton over Gabe Davis in week one? Sutton against the Raiders, Gabe Davis at the Jets? No. No. Really?

No. Why? I can make such a compelling case for this. You love Russell Wilson. But you know I love Gabe Davis. I mean, this is perhaps the best defense in football. They give up very few big plays. He had two terrible games against them last year, Gabe Davis.

I just don't know that this is Gabe Davis' week. Well, one of those was the game where Josh Allen got hurt. I believe the second one, he was already hurt. He got hurt on the second-to-last pass of that game. Oh, you're right. It was to Gabe Davis. Yeah. I already did my Jets...

I did my Jets-Bills research this morning. Yeah, I... I just... I don't want to trust Cortland Sutton, to be honest with you. Yeah. Like, I want to see it first. I want to see how long Jerry Duty's out. If only I didn't want to trust Cortland Sutton,

things would have been so different last year. All right, what else we got here? Oh, Raheem Mostert. He's up 13 spots in ADP. His ADP is 123rd overall, but again, when I see somebody up 13 spots to 123rd, it might mean he's going in the 80s now, in the 90s. I don't even know.

So when should we be taking Raheem Mostert? The 80s is a good place to consider it. Yeah, I'd prefer round nine, but I think if you've got a zero RB build, he's another player who's very specific to how you've started. You're looking for a week one through four starter running back,

then you'd slide into round eight. Mostert or Pacheco? Pacheco. Pacheco. Let me tell everybody. Especially about the situation with the agent where Jeff Wilson may not be out for the entire season. Yeah.

Man, but who do you trust? Do you really trust his agent? Well, nobody said he wasn't going to play the rest of the season. No, but as I said. Daniel kind of hinted at they hope to get him back at some point this season, which was pretty pessimistic. But the thing I don't rule out, though, with Mostert is them adding somebody else. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder how. Poor Mostert getting hurt week one. What? Come on. I mean, yeah. All right. Let me tell you about our schedule for the season. Our Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday shows

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What's the Sunday morning CBS Sports HQ schedule, Jamie? We are on from 10 to 11 as just a full fantasy hour, and then we'll be doing some fantasy content from 11 to 1 as well as part of our NFL preview show. Some of the Dave, Jamie, Heath trio will be joining us on the live

stream from time to time as well. Biggest ADP fallers. Najee Harris is down, but barely. One spot to 36th overall, which I know none of you would do. But I want to bring up the report from Dale Lally of Steelers.com who tried to shoot down the idea that Jalen Warren will surpass Najee Harris as the lead back. He says it's simply not true. Najee Harris is the number one. Warren is the third down back. Both will be valuable, but Warren isn't pushing past Harris. What are your thoughts on that from Steelers.com?

I don't think that's inaccurate at all. I don't think we've been approaching it that way. Maybe Dave has, but I don't want to speak for him. But I think for me, I've always expected Najee to be the first and second down guy, just maybe seeing what happened in Dallas just from a younger perspective because Zeke Elliott was getting older, but that the second guy is going to look better than the first guy and makes a lot more explosive plays.

But still Najee is going to have that goal line role. Najee is still going to be somewhat involved in the passing game, just maybe not as much as in years, as certainly his rookie season, but maybe not even as much as last year. I think we forget just how good he was at the end of the season last year, you know, and, and, and again, it's how you're judging it. You know, does, does he look explosive? No. Was he playing through a foot injury? Maybe, you know, even then I'm saying, you know, coming back from the foot injury. So it's just a matter of, you know, what was drafting nausea or still drafting nausea in the third round. Does that make sense? And the answer is no.

So it was just a matter of how early you want to get in on nausea and how early do you want to get in on Jalen Warren? And that the second part of that could be the mistake, you know, like, are we running Jalen Warren up the flagpole too quickly? Because if he doesn't take over the job, then it's just gonna have to be an injury before he becomes someone that you could start with confidence. Yeah. Um, well,

what's the difference right now between him and Antonio Gibson? Warren. Yeah. Um, I think Gibson has a bigger role. So what I think is really interesting about this, SteakWars.com, because I can understand that the guy on SteakWars.com,

he doesn't feel, he's being honest, I think. I mean, I read a lot of the tweets after it. I feel like what he said, he meant that Jalen Warren's not pushing Najee Harris. If he secretly felt, like a lot of people feel Najee's just not that good and he'll lose the job to Jalen Warren. I think fantasy managers, not everyone,

but there's a fraction, a faction that feels that way. Right. So if he felt that way, I don't think he would say that, but, um, you know, he gave, he gave a lot of examples of previous times that this has been the case, you know, from Jerome Bettis on up. But what I was, what I was trying to say was he said, Jalen Warren is a third down back. And what really was most interesting to me was that was not the usage in the preseason. The Steelers are one of the teams that played their starters a lot in the preseason, and it just wasn't like that. I mean, they were basically just switching off.

You know, they were playing in the same role, essentially. It wasn't like he just came in on third down or in obvious passing situations. So that is what really scared me off of Najee Harris and made me encouraged by Warren because I felt like he was going to have a different role than just being the third down back, which is not what Steelers.com said. They said he is the third down back.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I also remember in the preseason, they probably want to see what Warren looks like in case they need him whether it's good jamie you look great no listen yeah again go back to two years ago when you watch zeke and you watch tony pauler it's it's a it's a great comparison zeke was still getting all this work and we kept saying we need more power we need more power and then last year you started to see a little bit more. But it was still, okay, Zeke's in the way, Zeke's in the way, Zeke's in the way. I feel like it's going to be a lot of that, just not the same production.

I don't think you're going to get the type of production from both guys. But I think to me the preseason stuff is always what are they trying to accomplish? And I think trying to accomplish this, if Jalen Warren, A, is really better, do we play him? But B, in case Najee's not there, can he be the guy on first and second down? And that's, to me, what they were trying to accomplish. Okay. So don't take him in the third round. Long story short. Other fallers, Mike Evans is down five spots to 81st overall, and Marquise Brown is down four spots to 83rd overall. So Mike Evans and Marquise Brown is down four spots to 83rd overall. So Mike Evans and Marquise Brown now just outside the top 80 and they are behind Brandon. I,

you can Mike Williams. They're still ahead of John Dotson, which I know is surprising. They're still ahead of Jordan Addison and they're still ahead of Zay Flowers. This is Mike Evans and Marquise Brown. Heath, do you think Marquise Brown and Mike Evans around 80th overall is okay?

I think ADP wise Evans is in a pretty good spot. Amongst wide receivers, there are still several going behind him that I would rather draft before him. But even in PPR leagues, receivers going a little bit later on our side, ADP, than they are on others. Marquise Brown's another one of these guys I have a hard time getting excited about drafting. I just think you're going to have to be patient with them and hope that Kyler comes back and maybe the pass offense won't be as bad as I think,

but I view Brown as more like a number four wide receiver that I'm not drafting probably until round eight. Evans is fine in that round seven, round six, even range. But I understand why people are scared of Baker Mayfield too. All right. Don't be afraid of a commercial break. We're going to take one really quickly here. Come back, give you the news and notes.

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Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. What are you laughing at, Heath Cummings? I'm just getting ready. I need to look at the notes here and figure out what I'm planting a flag on. Well, I know, but I don't even know what flag I need to plant. All right, well, figure it out, you know? I will. Josh Jacobs should be a first-rounder. Bam!

Flag planted. Man, I hate you. No, you don't get to plant any flags i scrolled down in the notes i saw what your flag was and i'm taking it away from you it's an embarrassment do not do it i'm fine with it man like we gotta have fun we gotta do not do it it's really bad there's two flags that i planted did you see both of them they're both terrible you're gonna hate both of them well Do not do it. It's really bad. There's two flags that I planted. Did you see both of them? They're both terrible. You're going to hate both of them.

Well, they're both hot garbage. All right. That's my flag. Romeo Dobbs is still dealing with a hamstring injury, Jamie. They're at Chicago. Should be a nice matchup in week one. Jaden Reed, sleeper? Or what do we think?

Do you think Dobbs is going to play? Do we know anything? What do you think? From what I saw last week the answer was no I actually dropped them a couple spots just because I'm scared of hamstring injuries and if they're gonna linger so at this point I would anticipate him not playing so yes Jaden Reed would absolutely sleeper in week one

okay Kadarius Tony and cornerback LeJarius Sneed are going to play for the Chiefs in week one. They get Detroit on Thursday. So listen, Kadarius Toney, ready for week one. We talked about Sutton, Michael Thomas, Brandon Cook, Zay Flowers.

Where's Kadarius Toney in that group? If you're talking about, I don't think you should start Kadarius Toney with any confidence at all. I think he is somebody that you start as a flex week one. I'm sorry. He's I meant, you just mean draft wise. He's right in that mix, but, and I think it comes down to, are you drafting your fourth receiver with three really solid guys ahead? Or do you have a Terry McLaurin or a Jerry Judy and you're trying to find somebody to help

you early in the season I don't have a lot of I don't have a lot of confidence in what Tony's going to be at all but he has more upside I think than Sutton you you did a few drafts Adam I don't remember at what point where you had I know two times it stood out to me where you had a Burks somebody else and Tony this was before the mclaurin judy injury so i don't think it's one of those guys but you had two of those guys on your roster there was there was a definite third and i remember saying to you like wow you're taking a lot of risk here but that's again you know if you're willing to you know sort of manage through the beginning portion of the season i don't know if there's any leagues that were playing out but beginning portions of

the season and get to the middle to the end, it could be really good. Yeah, well, look, there's no buys until week four, right? So if these guys, especially if they're in a two-receiver league, and Traylon Burks is practicing now, so he might actually play in week one. Well, this is when Burks was still hurt. Yeah, you don't need these guys to be ready for week one. Traylon Burks, Kadarius Toney. So Kadarius Toney will be ready for week one. This is when Burks was still hurt. Yeah, you don't need these guys to be ready for week one.

Traylon Burks, Kadarius, Tony. So, Kadarius, Tony will be ready for week one, but you're not going to start him most likely in week one, but I hope that, I hope there's some real leagues, because I think Traylon Burks, after that injury, his ADP just really sunk. We haven't really talked about him much. No, his ADP sunk when Hopkins

sank. Right. Yeah, for sure. But I feel like after the injury, it was just an understandable reaction. Not only did Hopkins sign, but now he's hurt. But he could be a steal late. He's one of the last guys, I mean, agree

or disagree, Trenlundberg's one of the last guys you can get that has serious upside. Yes, for sure. He's in that range of the guys that you mentioned, but in some cases goes after them. And, you know, he has alluded to this before. Hopkins is not young, and if he misses any time, we could still see him in the exact same role that we were hoping him to be prior to the trade,

or prior to signing, excuse me, that he's the number one guy in an office that might surprise us you know i mean we do have a new coordinator there it's not it's we're expecting mike brable system to be my or mike brable's team to run the same offense but it's a new coordinator so that could change a little bit uh yeah burks is great i actually have one draft it's kind of funny um i drafted burks in and it was a mistake but i drafted burks over garrett walson in a league where you can keep these guys forever so stupid me last year um drafted chaelen burks and did not keep him because you only keep four players and then i got him back in the same keeper

round this year so i'm hoping that next year's the year Okay, what else we got here? Sean McVay. Oh, not Sean McVay. I do have that one, too. Except. Yeah, all right. Detroit offensive. Let's do this one first. Detroit offensive coordinator Ben Johnson said they might use Jameer Gibbs

in some ways that people don't think we might. All right. He's a third-round pick. And, by the way, did my Chiefs Lions research too. The Kansas City Chiefs have been the top five or bottom five, if we want to look at this stat, in most receiving yards per game allowed to running backs in at least five consecutive seasons. Every year they struggle against pass-catching running backs.

Sean McVay, here it is. He expects rookie wide receiver Puka Nakua to be an immediate contributor. And Jordan Rodrigue of The Athletic thinks that Van Jefferson will be the number one wide receiver while Cooper Cup is out. Heath, where do you draft Van Jefferson and or Puka Nakua? After round 12 for either. Puka before Van Jefferson has been my default.

There's probably a little higher floor with Van, but the floor is so low that you wouldn't want to start either one of them if they're in that range. So if Cooper Cup's going to miss significant time, then you just avoid the ramps. Okay. I mean, you don't think there's any appeal to having the number one receiver for Matthew Stafford,

whoever it might be and get you 10. I do. As long as that person is Cooper. Okay. Uh, Dion Jackson is expected to start week one for the Colts. Zach Moss could be back soon, but he's not likely to be back for week one,

maybe week two for Zach Moss. Uh, Daniel Popper of the athletic thinks that Josh Palmer will be the Chargers number three wide receiver to start the season, which we've talked about. But he also thinks that Josh Kelly will be the number two running back to start the season. And we really never talk about a handcuff for Austin Eckler. Do you think if Eckler were to miss time, there would be a Chargers running back that would be a must start or even

a number two running back? I mean, a probably start? Kelly. Yeah, I'd rather start Kelly over Deion Jackson if Eckler was out. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I have Kelly ranked in the Tajay Spears range

like in the 50s. Dallas signed their right tackle tackle Terrence Steele to a five-year $86.8 million deal. They are at the Giants on Sunday night. Saints wide receiver Traquan Smith is out for week one, and Rashid Shahid is still nursing a groin injury, and they get Tennessee in week one. And Seattle safety Jamal Adams is out for week one.

Cornerback Devin Witherspoon seems unlikely to play as well. And the Seahawks said it, you know, said it. They stunk against tight ends. Terrible last year. No Cooper Cup most likely in week one. Where do you think he'll rank Tyler Higbee for week one? 10 to 12? Yeah, I was going to say 10 to 15.

See? Thinking Jake Ferguson against the Giants or Higby against the Seahawks? Higby for me. Higby, but they'll be very close. Okay. All right, let's plant some flags. We landed on the moon.

We got plopped that thing right in there. Who wants to go first? Get your terrible hot garbage out of the way. I actually just figured out another one that you're probably going to disagree with, but it's not nearly as controversial as the first two. All right, first one, Anthony Richardson will be hot garbage for fantasy.

I planted that flag Wednesday during the draft-a-thon. I will stick with it. Actually, I put up a Twitter poll earlier today, and I just want to see results. What did you vote for? Great? Of course. All right.

I said, I don't like feeling so differently about a player compared to my colleagues. I'm not an Anthony Richardson guy. Curious how you feel. How will Anthony Richardson do in fantasy this season? I gave four answers, four options. Bad, decent, good, and great. Decent has 50% of the vote.

Good has 28.7%. Bad, 13%. Great has 7.7%. Now, if I were voting in that poll, I would say decent. I know hot garbage really, really, really quick. You just said hot garbage. It's not decent. All right.

I should probably change it. Anthony Richardson will be droppable in fantasy. Well, now, can we qualify this? Sure. 12 teams. You did drop Justin Fields last year, right before he averaged 34 points per game. You gave me the approval.

Justin Jefferson. You gave me the approval. You approved. That's a different standard. But I don't get, because I understand completely being anti-Anthony Richardson, thinking he's going to be a bad NFL quarterback, thinking he's not ready to pass in the NFL. I don't know how you can look at data set after data set at the guys who ran the

bowl at least 100 times guys who rushed for at least 700 yards guys who guys who and think that he's going to be the guy like Justin Fields threw for 149 yards per game last year and was QB seven. I don't know why people think that I don't think Anthony Richardson is a good passer means he's not going to be good for fantasy. They are not related. He is not. No, he and Justin Fields, I don't think they're related. No, I get it. I get it. But I think he's going to be such a bad passer. What I really think is that he is going to have some very, very good weeks. And I think he's going to have some terrible weeks. And you are pretty much never

going to know when they're coming. And he's going to be so frustrating, and people are going to pull their hair out trying to figure out Anthony Richardson and when to start and when to sit him. And the matchups really just won't matter. I think he has a very untalented team. They might be I mean, the Cardinals really like they're the worst, but

they might be the second worst team in football. Better receivers, the Colts or the Giants? The Giants. And I would say, because with Waller included, the Giants. Better receiving core with Barkley and Waller. Better receiving core, definitely the Giants. It's your terrible Giants take too, Homer. Hold on.

Don't forget Justin Fields was hot garbage as a rookie. That's the last thing I'd say. My Giants take is that the Giants are going to have a good offense. I just can't wait until we're sitting here in December and you're eating those words. It could be week two. It could be September. I understand the upside. Go ahead and draft him.

I would draft him. If he were ever around in any of my leagues, I would draft Anthony Richardson. You shouldn't be so arrogant as to only draft based on what you think. You've got to allow for the possibility that you're wrong. But you guys take him as a top 10 quarterback

every league I'm in, so I'm never drafting him with you. My second plant your flag is that the Giants offense will be pretty good, parentheses, after week one against the Cowboys. They probably won't be that good against the Cowboys. But I think they're going to surprise you, Heath. Specifically you.

Qualify pretty good. Above average? Yeah, they're going to be something like 10th to 12th in scoring. They're going to be good. They're going to be a good offense. Are we counting Winks defensive points? No.th in scoring. They're going to be good. They're going to be a good offense. Are we counting Winks' defensive points? No. Offensive scoring.

They have a really good offensive mind as their offensive coordinator. And they schemed guys open so effectively last year. And they just, I think that they hit a home run with Dable and Kafka. I think. They threw the ball 29 times a game. Yeah, they're throwing a lot more. And threw 15 passing touchdowns on the season. Where did they finish in scoring?

I wonder. I don't think it was top 12. No, but it probably wasn't that low. I'll say 18. They were 16th in scoring last year, so this isn't even that bold of a call. Well, their schedule is considerably harder than it was last year.

Yeah, and that's a problem. But I think they're going to be better. Okay. Well, I'm glad that you have hope and optimism. And I think it's a lot like Bears fans six years ago. But that turned out okay. Was that after Matt Nagy's first year? Matt Nagy shade.

No, I get it. I can't sit here and say you're crazy for feeling that the Giants aren't going to be good offensively. Because it's hard to trust Daniel Jones. But they're going to throw the ball more. That's for sure. Jamie. Well, I mean, the thing that Daniel Jones did well last year, he cut down on turnovers. Yeah.

He looked more competent. And now he's got better weapons. I mean, you know, you take away Richie James and you, look, nobody expected Wandale and Shepard to be ready.

And Jalen Hyatt and Darren Waller. I mean, you know, that's, those are upgrades. Unfortunately, you didn't mention the guys who are the top two

wide receivers and targets, probably. Wide receivers, but they might be third and fourth on the team in targets. I mean, might be third and fourth on the team in targets. I mean, Waller's going to lead the team in targets, and I think Barkley's probably second.

Anyway, third one is this, and this was inspired by the Traylon Burks discussion earlier. Tennessee will not be bottom 10 in pass attempts. And they are bottom five every single year. They're going to throw the ball more than they ever have under Vrabel. More than they've done in a long time. Titans. And what is your

rationale for that? The receiving core? A Derrick Henry injury? I got a lot. A bad offensive line? I got a lot of rationale. First of all, they signed DeAndre Hopkins. Secondly, they fired their GM last year. And they've been a pretty successful franchise, you'd have to say.

I think they realize they can't win like this. And they've been a pretty successful franchise, you'd have to say. I think they realize they can't win like this. They've drafted a quarterback in two straight drafts too. They realize that they are playing 1950s football, and it's time for them to revolutionize a little bit. I think they're going to open it up and throw more.

Straighten up and fly right, I'd say. Look, like I said, Tim Howard, I believe, is the offense coordinator. That was with DeAndre Hopkins in Houston. And I think the GM situation was more just a power struggle between Mike Vrabel and I forget his name, who was there.

Me too. So we'll see. But look, Tannehill was very good when he had receivers. Not great, but good. Yeah. I also don't think Henry's going to be as good, you know? I don't think he's the same guy. Yeah.

I mean, I think this is probably your best flag plant. The most likely to not get blown over by the wind. But to just, to it's okay anthony richards bad derrick henry bad no ryan daniel good daniel jones good i didn't say bad i didn't say derrick henry bad he's just not gonna rush for 2 000 yards he's 29 years old how much can you really run them? 350 times this year? I think they have to be a little bit more diverse offensively. They got Oconco, Berkshire, and Hopkins.

I think it's your best one. Thank you. What a nice compliment. All right. Heath's been working on his backhand this weekend. All right. We'll take a break. You ready to plant a flag? Sure. Okay. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Okay,

Heath. Let's do it. Plant something. Miles Sanders is going to be a top 10 running back this year. He's going to be the Josh Jacobs of 2023. 275 plus carries, 50 plus catches, plays the full 17 games,

finishes as a top 10 running back. Ridiculous. No. That's the thing is, and I do this sometimes, it's, I think people think it's ridiculous, but he was like 13th last year.

So it actually isn't probably outlandish enough, but. You know, he's actually never, he's never been top 20 per game. Maybe he was 20th. Sanders has never finished higher than 20th per game. This is very surprising.

I was just trying to play the Heath-Adam thing there and say it was ridiculous. It's a good flag plant. Jamie, any response? Good? I think if he stays healthy, there's a shot at this. But you're asking him to do this on what could be a very bad team. And the thing that's making me a little nervous, twofold,

that's making me a little nervous about Miles Sanders, the offensive line I thought was going to be an underrated one and be a little bit more productive, and it's looked a little shaky in the preseason. And Bryce Young's looked a little shaky in the preseason. And so if you have those two things working against him, that's clearly going to be a negative. I do think we're going to see a better pass catcher from a better uh production from him in the pass catching role than we have since his rookie campaign and you

know we've talked about that a lot with deuce daly being reunited with the two of them being reunited um and that clip that made the rounds you know what if you didn't get excited about that as a miles sanders guy i don't know what you're doing. You know, when Frank Reich and the GM there said, you know, Hey, you want to catch the ball again? No, whatever,

whatever the phrasing was. So he's, he's a very good number two running back. I top 10 would be a stretch, but what I'll probably say in a few minutes, Heath would might disagree with as well. So I think mile Sanders has a shot. Sure.

Heath, another flag. John Dotson will be the second best second year wide receiver this season. The number one for Washington and Garrett Wilson will be the only second year guy that's better than Dotson. I think we saw in the last five weeks last year

he kind of pulled even with McLaurin in terms of target share. I think even when they're both healthy, Dotson will be the number one in this offense. He's got the speed. He's got the hands. He's got the hands. He's got the route running. He's a true number one wide receiver. Is that it, or do you have more?

That was all I had on Jahan Dotson. No, no. How many flags did you bring? I mean, I just found out like six minutes ago that I was doing this, so. That's interesting. I'm pretty sure I sent an email email didn't i send an email with this earlier today you might have on on yeah i i apologize for not checking my email on sunday

of labor day weekend i should have been looking for that all right i'll sell definitely should have been looking for that i'll text text it next time. That's fine. You don't need to do three. I was only going to do two. I'll come up with a third by the time Jamie's done. Jamie, plan it. I've got three. First one, I said this earlier this week.

We're going to have three quarterbacks run for 1,000 yards this season. One will be a breakout candidate. Oh, these are bold predictions. Huh? These are bold predictions. Huh? These are bold predictions. There's a very big difference between bold predictions and planting a flag.

No, this is three quarterbacks that you want to draft. So, okay. I don't know what the difference is. Well, I think, okay, what is the difference? You're right. Well, first of all,

the difference is bold predictions are tried and true, have been around for a while. Plant your flag, I invented last week and I'm still workshopping it. to me these are to me these are three quarterbacks that you want to draft you want to invent plant your flag well from a fantasy perspective i i definitely did oh what i'm saying is of tm what i'm saying is uh this is i feel like

i feel like you truly believe this is going to happen, whereas Bold Predictions is like, yeah, let's just have some fun. I do believe this is going to happen. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. We've only had in NFL history four times where a quarterback has run 4,000 yards. We're going to get three guys that do it this season. One is going to be breakout candidate Anthony Richardson. One is going to be a guy that did it last year in Justin Fields fields and one is going to be the guy that's only done it that one is the

only guy who has done it twice in his career in lamar jackson okay um i'm sure i didn't invent plant your flag but any other flags for you yes uh jk dobbins will be a top 10 running back this year i don't know that's a bold prediction or a player flag, but... Do you have Dobbins or Sanders? I've always been a Dobbins guy. I think you can understand that. I think I'll recall that, yeah. All right.

That's cool. You got another one, or... Yes, we're going to have two rookie tight ends finish as top 10 fantasy tight ends in Dalton Kincaid and sam laporte okay so i don't think you should be on the bold prediction show because i believe these are these are also your bold predictions i can call it if you like it in the private chat we've got here plant your flag is to bold predictions as bust list is to avoid list. You know what's so funny is like,

I really felt there's a huge difference between the avoid list and the bust list. And Jamie also felt that way, but we felt the exact opposite about the avoid list. It was like, Jamie was like, oh, the avoid list is much worse than the bust list. And I'm like, oh, that's definitely not how I felt about it at all. So- If you are avoiding something, you are avoiding it. I don't know how that than the bust list. And I'm like, Oh, that's definitely not how I felt about it at all. So if you are avoiding something,

you are avoiding it. I don't know how that's the big difference. It's the reason. I thought about that. And like Jamison Williams would be on my avoid list. Cause I'm just not drafting him. No, it's the reason you're avoiding the bust list is someone's put it perfectly.

To me, the avoid list is, it's not you, it's me. It's like, I don't really like this player. So Anthony Richardson. Well, yeah. I mean, one of the reasons I don't like Anthony Richardson,

again, because you guys have him as QB 9. When he's QB 16 in ADP, I'm not going to call him hot garbage. Which quarterbacks that we have ranked ahead of guys that you like better? Watson, Tua, Cousins, for sure.

Actually, I told you that. I moved Tua ahead of him. Okay, so you have him 10th then. Watson, Tua, Cousins, for sure. After that, you want to take him ahead of Geno Smith, Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Jared Goff, fine. Jared Goff is a perfect example of

a player who's on my avoid list and not my bust list. I really don't think he's going to be a bust at QB 15. That's not a bad ADP for him or whatever. It's right around there. I never draft Jared Goff. I think he has the least amount of upside of any quarterback going in his range. So I just avoid him.

Does that make sense? That's not a bust. That is absolutely not a bust. Right, so you're avoiding him. You're not drafting him. Yeah, he's being drafted. I think that maybe is the qualifier is busts are drafted early enough to be busts.

Avoid guys or guys who are going late but you still don't draft them. That's a great way to put it. Maybe in your mind, but I don't know. Back to plant your flag, Heath. You got a third one? No. Okay, Good show.

Wacky Sunday night show. Enjoy your holiday, everybody. And we'll talk to you on Tuesday with, I don't know. Schaefer, what's on Tuesday? Bold predictions? Waverwire. Not Waverwire. It's week one.

Week one Waverwire. uh, waiver wire, not waiver. It's week one, week one waiver wire. I will, I will have a, a hybrid ADP slash waiver wire show for, uh, a column for tomorrow. So for those of you that drafted already, you'll see guys that are waiver ads.

Also, I'm not on the Tuesday show, so I'm not sure why I'm even commenting. I have no say in it at all. That's a good point. We got to make our NFL predictions too. At some point. Yeah. I know this, the I have no say in it at all. That's a good point. We've got to make our NFL predictions, too, at some point. Yeah, I know Heath this. The Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl.

Did you know, Heath, that Saquon Barkley's incentives, you know when he signed the franchise? He doesn't get the incentives unless the Giants make the playoffs. Did you know that? That was good negotiating on their part. I think that's probably a salary cap thing

because there are certain incentives that if they are very likely to be reached, they count against the cap when you sign the player. And so if you put qualifications in there to make them unlikely to be reached, they don't count against the cap. And so they probably added that playoff provision to make it unlikely to be reached

because they didn't think it was likely the Giants make the playoffs. All right. I think I've had enough on that note. We'll talk to you on Tuesday on Fantasy Football Today.