Fantasy Football Today - ADP Predictions and Training Camp Battles (07/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 27, 2021

Nominate us on PodcastAwards.com! https://www.podcastawards.com/app/signup "One Good Stat, One Bad Stat" for D.K. Metcalf! Will he have enough targets and catches to finish as a Top 5 WR? History says that could be tough. And we've got MORE AARON RODGERS NEWS (9:30) and Sean McVay's thoughts on Darrell Henderson ... We make some ADP predictions as training camps get underway (14:00). How high could Cam Newton climb in ADP (18:50)? Which other QBs could move into the Top 15 (24:00)? Who is more likely to move up a round or two: David Montgomery or Mike Davis (28:15)? Is Kyle Pitts more likely to rise or fall in ADP (29:15)? ... Looking at some training camp battles beginning with the Jaguars RBs (35:00) and the Bucs RBs (41:30). Plus, we discuss backfield battles for the 49ers (44:00), Broncos (45:10), Jets (48:30) and Bills (50:30) and if we're interested in a Saints QB (53:40) ... Email us at [e-mail] 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. As training camps open up around the NFL, which players have the most to gain and have the most to lose? Who's going to be rising up the draft boards? Who's going to be falling a little bit? We'll give you some average draft position predictions and look at some training camp battles.

Adam Azer, Jamie. Hey, Jamie. Welcome back. What's up? And look at Dave in the cool podcast studio dave richard what's up chilling i'm actually in the office it's weird not being at home and not hearing like my phone ring or my family yelling in the background it's it's going to be awesome i can finally like concentrate for the first time in a year and a half on everything you say i can't wait. Let's get going. Very sorry for that. Also, we are sorry to our listeners

who enjoyed hearing Dave's dog in the background. It was always one of our favorite things. That's not going to be happening. What? We're paying attention. Now I'm going to start paying attention to you. Happy birthday, Dave. Thanks, Jamie.

You're coming up soon. I just had my Jordan alternative number. Birthday. Very good. What was he in the Olympics? Nine? Yeah, not that alternate number. 45 for Dave.

Okay, so one good stat, one bad stat. I asked the listeners, hey, who do you want? And I got two votes for DK Metcalf, so we'll do DK Metcalf. He got two votes before anyone else did. One good stat, one bad stat for DK Metcalf, who was the number five wide receiver in non-PPR, number six in full PPR. Here's your good stat.

Okay, honestly, it's basically just his season, but he was awesome. He was eighth in the NFL in yards per target. He was actually tied with A.J. Brown and D.J. Moore. And of the seven players who ranked ahead of them, only one of them had more than 92 targets, and that was Justin Jefferson. So it was a lot of, you know, you get 60 targets

and you have a great yards per target, that's one thing. You get 130, that's another thing. So it was a lot of, you know, you get 60 targets and you have a great yards per target. That's one thing you get 130. That's another thing. So he was extremely efficient. And that was with some drops. If he cleans up some of the drops, he could be even more efficient. So that's the good stat for Metcalf. The bad stat, he did not lead his team in targets. And like I said, he finished sixth in non PPR, fifth in non-PPR. There has only been one wide receiver in the last 10 years that had fewer than 134 targets and finished top five in PPR. Metcalf had 129 targets last year. I think Tyreek Hill had 134. So there's only been one wide receiver in the last decade

that has finished top five in PPR with fewer than 134 targets. So that means, because catches are so important, you're probably going to need a bigger target share or more pass attempts for the Seahawks this year. By the way, do you guys know who that one wide receiver was? Top five with fewer than 134 targets, PPR.

Did A.J. Brown make it? No, not per game. Full season. It happened in 2019. No, close though. Same zip code. Got one? Yes. And then this incredible season,

11 years ago, Jordy Nelson, 96 targets, 15 touchdowns, 1,263 yards. He can make it up in the touchdown department. Right, so he does seem like, because he's a big play guy and scores touchdowns, the kind of guy who can do it like a Tyree kill. But yeah, I don't know, Jamie. I mean, obviously he's great, but that bad stat is something interesting

that does he need to get a bigger target share in full PPR to be, you know, to be top five, top three, maybe in wide receiver one? I mean, I guess if that's your expectation, then yes, he needs that. But is he being drafted that way in redraft? I don't think so you know so you know if he's going to be a top seven top 10 wide receiver which i think is more along the lines with the expectation where based on his likely adp i i think you know he can he can certainly finish in that range but if those other things happen if shane waldron opens up the passing game if d DK Metcalf finds the end zone more, if he takes that third year leap, which I think, as I said on Monday show, you know, he profiles as that type of guy.

Again, not a statistical thing, but based on what he can do on the field entering the year where, you know, you take that next step as a player at that position, then I think he does have that type of upside. So I would probably, if I was going to say DK Metcalf can be wide receiver three or wide receiver one or five, you know, in that top five, I would probably bank on the touchdowns being the thing that carries into that level. But if we do get what, you know, you're hoping for, Russ cooking, more diverse route tree, you know, not as predictable, you know, passing situations, pass,

pass route runs, routes run, et cetera. Then I think Metcalf can certainly be that type of guy. See the, the good stat and the bad stat for me from last year has to do with his first eight games and his last eight games. And it's right in line with Russell Wilson.

Russ was on fire for his first eight games. And then they started to throw less, and it really impacted DK Metcalf. It was strange, though, because his targets per game didn't even fall by one full target, almost one full target per game, but not one full target per game. And he still, let's put it this way,

first eight games, he had a touchdown and or 100-plus yards in seven of those first eight. Last eight games, he had one game with over 100 hundred plus yards in seven of those first eight last eight games. He had one game with over a hundred yards. He had two games with a touchdown. So he really needed to show a little bit more consistency. And I wonder if teams did something different to him and the Seahawks need a counter punch for that. And maybe this new offense that Shane Waldron is going to develop will include that counterpunch. The stat that I found that I thought really took away from DK, first half of the year, 5.9 yards after catch per reception. Second half of the year, it was almost cut in half, 3.3.

So he needs to make more plays after the catch, needs to be used more in the red zone. There's no question about that. He does have potential to be a top-five receiver. I think everybody in fantasy knows that, and that's why he'll be drafted as a number one wide out. So very interesting what you said about the yards after catch. I talked about that with Alan Robinson on the Monday show. He's not a standout there, but there's a big difference, Dave. You don't have to be a standout in yards

after catch if you're a big play threat, which obviously DK Metcalf is. He has one of the highest ADOTs in the NFL for wide receivers or for anyone. So, you know, if he's catching deep balls, then he doesn't really have to be great after the catch. Yeah, but by the way, do you want to guess what his ADP is since July 1st in

NFC average draft position? Wide receiver, what? Six. Five. Yeah, it's six. Yeah, so to me, if you're taking him six, then you should at least think that he has wide receiver one upside. This is half PPR, I believe, for the most, if not all, but for the most part.

But he does. But does he? That's what I'm saying. I don't know that he has the catch potential. That's my concern. Well, I mean, in half PPR, he does. Yeah, but in full PPR, I don't know that he does. But does he? That's what I'm saying. I don't know that he has the catch potential. That's my concern. Well, I mean, in half PPR, he does. Yeah, in half, yeah. But in full PPR, I don't know that he does.

Again, you know, if we're looking at just the raw numbers and if the targets do go up to whatever extent. So last year, he had eight games with at least... Sorry. I just had it in front of me. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Ten games with at least, I'm sorry, I just had it in front of me. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. 10 games with at least eight targets and he scored 18 PPR points

or more in seven of those. So, you know, if that's the floor based on the target share, that's pretty good. Yeah. All right. Well, that is one good stat,

one bad stat for DK Metcalf. They are changing their offense this year, as we've mentioned. Maybe that means more catches for Metcalf. We are going to be live tonight, Tuesday night, 7 p.m. Eastern, with a mock draft and giving away a spot in our next mock draft. YouTube.com slash FantasyFootballToday.

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All right. So here we go. Aaron Rodgers, good news. Ian Rappaport saying that Aaron Rodgers is giving indications that he will play for the Packers this season. So we have some optimism. CeeDee Lamb is going to line up all over the field, according to his offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore.

That's good. That's good, right? We like that? Of course that's good. Good versatility. He's been working basically as the number one receiver with Amari Cooper on the shelf to start training camp. This is going to be fun because Michael Gallo is probably going to stay in his spot. So the report said that they basically wanted

to pigeonhole him in the slot last year. And so with no offseason, obviously after Dak went down, the offensive line went down, things just really went down no clue for the Cowboys as we all remember um but now they're letting him do you know everything and so you can't you know game plan for that until we see it uh from a defensive standpoint and it puts Cooper back in the slot a little bit more too so it opens up his route tree also so uh both these guys as long as Cooper's going to be healthy, have the chance to be top 15,

maybe top 10 caliber wide receivers. Uh, but if Cooper misses any time, my God, CD lamb could be, you want to talk about a, a potential top five wide receiver. CD lamb could be that guy.

So take that Heath for disagreeing with me. Hey, I want to address something real quick here. For those of you watching on YouTube, I think I should be able to fix this problem for the audio audience, but, uh, we, because Dave's in the podcast studio, the volume, I understand the volume is a little bit different. So working on it, going to try to fix it on the fly here. Apologies for that, but, uh, I'm going to go ahead and turn my levels down. Jamie's going to turn his levels down and we're going to hopefully get that sorted

out. Uh, Sean Mc're ruining things again, Adam. Yeah, sorry, but you look good. Sean McVay on Daryl Henderson said, it's never been about an ability question with Henderson. It's about how do we keep him available. I can promise you you're not seeing Henderson in a preseason game. But basically, he talked to him. It's not new for the Rams.

What's that? That's not new for the Rams. They's that? That's not new for the Rams. They benched their guys a lot in the preseason. Yeah. They didn't even play their starters two preseasons ago. Or last year. No one did last year. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, I guess a vote of confidence, should we call that? He also said today that kind of ruled out a veteran. You know, he's asked about specifically Todd Gurley, and he said they're not going to go the veteran route right now so daryl henderson's arrow continues to point up and you know it's going to be interesting to see how he handles the job can he stay healthy uh xavier jones is certainly somebody i'll say it again if you have you know the ability to pick up anybody in your dynasty leagues right now go pick him up just to see what happens he seems to be the second, at least going into the start of camp. So,

um, should be, should be interesting to see how this backfield operates. Jamie, how many times in the next week or two, are you going to put rocket ship emojis on Twitter for like, it's a joke. It's funny.

It's funny. The responses I get because, um, people think that I'm saying he's saying his ADP should go up. I'm just saying that the ADP is going to go up. So I think I've done it three times now. Lamb. Twice with TD Lamb.

And once with the Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase tweet from the Bengals today. So I like your response. I wasn't exactly sure how I was going to respond to you when you said it because it was funny. Yeah. Which was caught you off guard. Jamie likes to use like office memes and I always make fun of him because he doesn't watch.

I only do that to you usually. And then he did the rocket ship emoji. And I said, how could you use a rocket ship emoji when you've never even been to space? Right. And yeah, so it was great. I replied to you with a water boy meme.

Right. Marlon Mack fully recovered from his Achilles injury. Good stuff. But they've already said Jonathan Taylor is the guy. And we're looking forward to that workload. All right. ADP predictions. I hope a year from now we're saying the same thing about Cam Akers. Yeah. That'd be great. For Jonathan Taylor's sake, we hope Marlon Mack doesn't get too many carries. But if he does and he looks good, it's going to make you feel a lot better about Cam Akers in 2022. Yeah, I got a feeling we'll see plenty

of Marlon Mack this preseason. Preseason, yeah. Yeah, just to get an idea of how healthy he is and how ready he is. And if he looks good, that might impact Jonathan Taylor's workload on a game-to-game basis a little bit. Well, I'm not sweating it for now. I'm still taking Jonathan Taylor's workload on a game-to-game basis a little bit. Well, I'm not sweating it for now.

I'm still taking Jonathan Taylor with a top eight pick, if not a top five pick. I really like him. I think he's got a chance to come through for 2,000 total yards, but if there's somebody there on top of Naheem Hines that's going to take him off the field more than we think, then that would obviously be terrible. All right, time for would obviously be terrible.

All right. Time for some ADP predictions. Do you have any that you would like to share? McCaffrey will be one. That's good. Rocket ship emoji to that, baby. What is Daryl Henderson's ADP in NFC over the last four days or five days? All right.

Let's take a look. If you could bring that up for me, I would appreciate it because I cannot bring it up where I am sitting right now. Are you sitting next to Daryl Henderson? I am not sitting next to Daryl Henderson or anyone, but I just cannot access MCEs. You want to guess? Yeah, I think a guess would be in order.

I'm going to put it at 46.6. No, 55. But what do you think about where he is among running backs? Which is where? Probably right around running back 22? 23. Yeah. Speaking of Jordan.

That's where I think he belongs. And honestly, I like that ADP better than my ADP guess. I do not want to invest a super early pick in him. I get that he's got a chance to be the lead guy for the Rams, but I think he's going to share no matter what they do, whether they add somebody or not. Didn't play a lot of third downs last year. Is that going to be something that opens up for him now?

Well, Malcolm Brown is gone. Well, that's the question. Is he going to be that guy, or are they going to find somebody going to be that guy are they going to find somebody else to handle that role yep I think there's an opportunity for him to get that role because he was a great pass catching back in college he can do that in the pros we've seen it in spurts I know he's had good efficiency with that but I'm just I'm I'm a little bit nervous about him being able to to go through with the grind I'm a little bit nervous about him being able to go through with the grind.

I'm a little bit nervous about the coaching staff trusting him fully. So to me, there's a little bit of risk if you're taking him before the end of round four. But I know it sounds stupid because it might be 10 picks later. I'm fine with him in round five. I think that that's a much better spot for him where you mitigate that risk just a little bit. I think it's a great sign that they are handling him like the starter. You know, McVay saying he's not going to play. Oh, yeah.

And, you know, that's kind of showing you, I think, their hand a little bit, that he is the guy right now. Now, again, they may find somebody who's cut from a team, and they may say, okay, that's a guy that fits our system, that we feel comfortable with. There may be, you know, we could get a report of they're trying out Le'Veon Bell and Adrian Peterson and Duke Johnson, you know, some of the guys who are out there.

And that could be something that, you know, changes things even before those guys are signed. But for right now, you have to approach it. And again, there are not many drafts happening right now, but you have to approach it as if Daryl Henderson has the chance to be a number two fantasy running back. And round four, round five is where those guys are going, the back end of that group. And not that I'm comfortable right now, but you have to approach it as if Daryl Henderson has the chance to be a number two fantasy running back in round four, round five is where those guys are going to back into that group. And not that I'm comfortable with this, Adam,

but there are a lot of running backs in front of him in ADP that could easily see their stock plummet guys like miles Gaskin or Mike Davis, you know, one or two back. Actually just behind any of the other 22 running backs in front of they're just behind him though. I was trying to read you the names. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, Javante Williams I know from our earlier show.

Javante Williams is a spot ahead of Josh Jacobs, Travis Etienne, and then a pretty big gap. Then you go to the next round. Those are round four picks, Jacobs and Etienne. Round five is Javante Williams, Daryl Henderson, Miles Gaskin, Kareem Hunt, and Mike Davis. Right, that's the group he should be in. And that's, you know, you're banking on, okay, Rams running back being good to great

or Falcons running back being good to great. Jaguars headache, you know, in that situation. Who knows how that's going to play out? Broncos situation. Who knows how that's going to play out? Broncos situation, who knows how that's going to play out? You know, so I think he should be ahead of Devontae Williams right now, but that could change if Melvin Gordon, you know, goes on vacation. But in any event, you know, Henderson is in that, you know, anywhere from, I think, Josh Jacobs, you know, for me,

I would put him in kind of closer to the David Montgomery, Miles Gaskin group. But Jacobs, Gaskin, Montgomery, ETN, Davis, Kareem Hunt, depending on format, all those guys, I think he's in that conversation for sure. All of these things. I think if he's not going to play in the preseason and fantasy managers can't see him in the preseason and he's treated with kid gloves in training camp practice,

where does his stock slide the only way it would happen is if they acquired another running back that would make people not want to take him so my prediction is that his adp will go up from 55 and even though i don't like it it'll be inside of round four okay jamie you got got a prediction i have plenty in the bank so i'm happy to fire away. Do I have an ADP prediction? Yeah, like this guy will be a riser, this guy will be a faller. I'll give you one. I'll inspire you.

Ready? Going bold here. So quarterback 16, I think 15 is Matt Ryan. I'm going to refresh ADP to July 1st. I think 15 is Matt Ryan, 16 is Kirk Cousins. Once you get past like Burrow and Lawrence at 13 and 14, it's probably a little bit less exciting. Yeah, 15 is Ryan, 16 is Cousins.

Cam Newton will be QB 15 in ADP when they name him the starter. And you got all those rushing yards and all these great reports. He looks so good. And this and that. Cam Newton is going to jump 17 spots. He's currently QB 32. He's going to jump to QB 15. Haven't they already named him the starter?

Okay, they give him the... I don't know, have they? I didn't think that they didn't. I don't know if they necessarily need to. Yeah, I don't think anybody's operating in New England as if he's not the starter. They make us feel like he's got a steady grip on the job because I don't think that we feel that way right now.

I think he's going to have a steady grip on the job to begin the season. It's a matter of whether or not he has a steady grip on the job by the time we get to week nine and they're four and four or something like that. Okay, listen, he's 32 in ADP. People obviously don't feel too safe. grip on the job by the time we get to week nine and they're four and four or something like that okay listen he's 32 and adp people obviously don't feel too safe oh i don't think the fantasy community does i'm just talking about the patriots but i i think it's interesting like we just

finished our draft for our pick by pick series and this is a half ppr draft for myself dave heath and chris towers i'll take part where we all have three teams in this 15 round draft. So Chris waited on taking a quarterback. He didn't draft his first quarterback until the 13th round. And he took Cam Newton and Trevor Lawrence back to back. So he obviously values Cam higher than Trevor Lawrence. I'm assuming based on his projections. So this is the type of quarterback situation. I would have probably reversed it, but this is the type of quarterback situation i would have probably reversed it but this is the type of quarterback situation which i think you can bank on trying to do and again knowing the people you're drafting with for example kirk cousins did not get drafted so if you want

just like okay i know there's a safe guy out there or ryan fitzpatrick you know if you want to put him in that category or rothlisberger you know any one of those guys that are going to be in that number maybe matt ryan i don't think think, got drafted in this draft either. So he took two high upside type of quarterbacks if they hit. And so if Cam struggles and stinks again, like Dave alluded to, and they go to Mac Jones, then he has Lawrence. If both those guys struggle, then he can go to the waiver wire and find somebody. But he waited it. He waited on it. And so that's the type of thing I think that you approach with Cam Newton.

So I don't know if Cam's ADP is going to rise, Adam. It's a good prediction because I think people understand that Mac Jones is looming. This isn't Brian Hoyer looming. This isn't whatever the guy they had last year. I forget his name already. Jared Settem. Right. Looming.

So this is a guy that they spent a first-round pick on. And so I think everybody's kind of expecting that that is the next thing to happen for them is if Cam has a bad situation, gets hurt, you know, like you missed time last year because of covid. So if he has to go on the shelf for whatever reason and they turn to Mac Jones, Cam may never get the job. Yeah, yeah, I get that. I'm just saying that the last time we saw Cam Newton, he had a terrible season as a passer but he had as many legit excuses as you could have they had a bad right passing situation he had covid in the middle of the season he was a late signing in free agency wasn't perfect didn't have a real off season the o-line wasn't as good as it is this year so i could see really a lot of positive momentum they've added agalor and henry and john whonie Smith and Bourne and whatnot. They've gotten better.

Those guys aren't headliners, but they're obviously better. So I could see a lot of positive momentum. I could see him being, look, I was having a little fun with 15, but I could definitely see Cam being a big riser. Where is Cam in relation to Roethlisberger? Oh, maybe a 24th for Roethlisberger,

32nd for Cam. Yeah, that's another one that intrigues me way be a 24th for Roethlisberger 32nd for cam. Yeah. That's, that's another one that intrigues me is, is Ben, because you know, this is one of those teams and it's just such a funny situation that we do this every year in fantasy.

We're all in on everything else around bed. Najee is a potential first round pick. The three receivers are all going to be drafted as top 30. Let's just say, you know, maybe, maybe borderline top 24 for all three of them, depending on format.

But nobody is taking the quarterback. It's like what Heath was saying almost about Dak Prescott on Monday's show. Prescott should be number one if we're all in on the Cowboys the way that we are with the receivers there. But Ben is one that I think could see his ADP rise.

More two-quarterback, super flex leagues. And I'm curious. We have Bryant McFadden at Steelers camp. I'm talking to him tomorrow. I want to see what his take is because he's an honest former player and he played for the Steelers.

But he's typically honest about the team that he played for. And he'll get some good insight because he knows those guys. So I'm curious what BMAC's going to say about what the team

thinks about Roethlisberger. And we'll have that on FFT on hq next week adam i want to take the the uh adp prediction that you made but just replace the name just grab your pencil erase cam newton's name hold on can i guess and then scratch you know who i'm gonna say i think you're gonna say trey lance trey lance is who i'm gonna say because i i think it's a matter of time before he's the starter in San Francisco, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Kyle Shanahan looks around and says,

look, we're not going anywhere with Garoppolo. We went to the Super Bowl with him. They went to a Super Bowl with him, but they clearly don't love him. It's true. They went to the Super Bowl with Goff. They don't love his derby. I think that offense could be much tougher to defend if it's Trey Lance. It really just comes down to how prepared he is and how comfortable they are with him under center. I think that offense could be much tougher to defend if it's Trey Lance.

It really just comes down to how prepared he is and how comfortable they are with him under center because he doesn't have a lot of experience. He only played in like 30 games or less than that, I think, at the FCS level. And now here he is going into the NFL from that. So it's a big jump. It's going to be tough for him. But if he has anything that sounds like a good training camp, he'll be in there.

And they play the Lions in week one. I don't think he's starting week one, though, if Garoppolo's healthy. Rushing ability. If he looks good in training camp and in the preseason, I bet there's a chance that he has, like a realistic chance, that he starts week one for the Niners. I mean, obviously it could happen. We saw it with Seattle when they brought in Matt Flynn

and drafted Russell Wilson. But that wasers. I mean, obviously it could happen. You know, we saw it with Seattle when they brought in Matt Flynn and drafted Russell Wilson. But that was, you know, more I think of a surprise. And Seattle didn't expect Flynn to be so bad and Russell Wilson to be so good. So certainly that could be the case. But, you know, everything here at San Francisco is they're going to still stick with Garoppolo. And this move was a lot about his durability and not being available to them and not getting the upside. So the upside factor certainly factors in with, factors in with what Trey Lance can do and hopefully get the job.

But it's going to be interesting to see how the – I think the early part of the season, we know the Bears are making this stupid decision to go with Andy Dalton week one over Justin Fields. I think this is more – the 49ers know what they have in Jimmy Garoppolo as opposed to the Bears trying to see what maybe they have in Andy Dalton. I wouldn't surprise me in the least that the Bears went back on that with Dalton, but it comes down to how fields looks in training camp to like if these guys look ready, why wouldn't they just play the kid? Get him in there.

Get him in experience. These teams aren't going anywhere with Garoppolo and with Andy Dalton. So I would disagree in Garoppolo because they've already been there. Yeah, they're not going anywhere now with Garoppolo. with Andy Dalton. I would disagree on Garoppolo because they've already been there. Yeah, they're not going anywhere now with Garoppolo. I don't know. I mean, you hear a lot of NFL people saying that the 49ers have one of the best rosters in football and it's not because of necessarily Trey Lance.

No, it's not because of Trey Lance, but it's because they're well-stocked pretty much everywhere else. Right, and the team is telling you that Garoppolo is going to start, so it's going to be interesting to see how it unfolds. Who do you guys think sees the field first, Fields or Garoppolo?

Fields. Or Garoppolo? Garoppolo will see to start, so it's going to be interesting to see how it unfolds. Who do you guys think sees the field first, Fields or Garoppolo? Fields. Or Garoppolo? Garoppolo will see the field before Fields. Fields. Lance. Okay, yeah, the other point I would make with ADP is that I wonder if there's an impenetrable top 14. The last five of those would be Stafford, Hurts, Tannehill, Burrow, and Lawrence.

I guess I could see Lance jumping some of them because of the rushing ability. But it's 15 and beyond is super vulnerable. Matt Ryan, Cousins, Wentz. Lance is 18 right now. Mayfield. Where's Deshaun Watson? He is since July 1st. He's 28th.

Okay. That's another one that could make a jump if it's clear. Like I, I still expect him to be put on some sort of a list and not start the season. Yeah. He'll start to get some attention if he ends up on a different team and it's a good spot and he's practicing and all that stuff.

Let me give you a few more ADP predictions. You tell me. There's some news though, with Rogers Schefter tweeting that they're going to give him a new deal, essentially, offering some concessions to bring him back for this year. But it sounds like

it may be one year and then they're going to free him from his deal so he can leave a la Tom Brady like his final year in New England. Hmm.

Wow. Okay. I'll take last dance for 500. Dave? Yeah, we'll see what it is, but that's kind of what Jeff was alluding to. He said the new agreement once finalized

would help set up Aaron Rodgers' departure from Green Bay after the season. Just realized they never have odd number. Oh, do they have 500 in the first round? They go 100, 200, 300 before? Yeah, I don't know. Okay, give me... Yeah, me the first round of jeopardy you're talking about yeah yeah yes you knucklehead they've got 500 okay so which prediction's more

realistic david montgomery will move into round two by the end of the preseason and or mike davis will move into the top 40 and i'll tell you where they are currently. Sorry, now I'm at quarterback. Okay, Mike Davis is at 60th. He'll move up 20 spots at least. And David Montgomery is 35th. He'll move up into the top 24, which is more realistic. So it's a shorter jump for Montgomery than it is for Davis.

It is, but it's hard to crack the top 24. I'll take Montgomery. I would take Montgomery also because you already have Tariq Cohen on the pop list. And if they cut Damian Williams and Cohen's injury situation lingers, then people are going to get more excited about him based on how he finished last year. I don't see a chance for a lot of bad press right now for Montgomery. Right? If he gets hurt, that's about it. I'm, I'm not limiting that. I'm not including that. I guess he would could stink in the preseason or

something, but he probably won't get enough carries for people to really care. So it's just going to be a lot of buzz on Montgomery. Um, all right. Kyle pits, ADP prediction. Kyle pits will be the second over second overall pick in drafts behind Christian McCaffrey. Dynasty startup, maybe. Now, do you think his average draft position will go up or down? Kyle Pitts, since July 1st, is, I don't know, man. No, down. 55th.

55th. It's going up. 125%. It's going to go up. Yeah, I'll go the other way. I think it goes down when people actually realize that that's just too crazy. Okay. As I asked the question, in my head, I was thinking his ADP is probably in the 40s,

so it's going to go down. But when I saw it was 55th, I kind of feel like it's going to go up. Right, right, right, right. He'll be closer to 50, if not like 49, 48, 48 47 people are going to get excited about him in this offense he's going to get used a lot he's going to get moved around a lot there all it will take all it will take is one big play in the preseason for everybody to go hog wild for for not everybody but for at least three people in every league to go hog wild on Kyle Pitts. And they will spend that top 48 pick to get him thinking

that they've got the next Rob Gronkowski or Travis Kelsey or Darren Waller, somebody of that ilk. I don't think I'm going to do that. But I think that we will see that in the fantasy community, that people will start reaching for Kyle Pitts. So, Jamie, you think 55 is too high for him? Yes. When would you take him?

Somewhere in the 60s. What a bad Gators fan you are, I tell you. I've got him at 57. I think he's right. Like, the safe place to take him, to take that chance on Pitts, is right in that spot that we're talking about. So maybe I'm a little more bullish than Jamie, but I guarantee you there will be people that we draft with

who will be way more bullish, and neither of us will have the chance to get them. We'll be fine with that. There are plenty of tight ends in the sea, Adam. We don't have to reach for Kyle Pitts. Yeah, I'll say that I'm going to probably end up with about 10 or 11 teams. I better have Pitts on one of them,

which means I'll have to reach, you know, because he's got... You can do it in a salary cap draft. I'm not invited to any salary cap drafts. Well, we'll change that. Aw. Okay. Yeah, so let's...

We need some fish in our salary cap draft. Yeah, there you go. Okay, so last one for me. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin will be ADP fallers as Antonio Brown moves ahead of Tyler Boyd and into the top 35 at wide receiver. He'll practice, though. He'll practice.

Come on. It's July 26th. He'll practice. So my He'll practice. Come on. It's July 26th. He'll practice. So my prediction is Antonio Brown will be a riser. He's currently wide receiver 43, 100th overall. He'll go ahead of Tyler Boyd. He's going 84th overall at wide receiver 36. I guess he'd have to go ahead of Devontae Smith also to be wide receiver 35.

And Godwin is currently in round four. Evans is in round four. They'll be late round four, round five picks. Anyway, I think there will be... This is an Antonio Brown prediction. I think he'll be one of the bigger risers. He might. He's obviously a name people know.

Super Bowl teams always get a little bit more hype um he's a tom brady receiver so you know that's going to get a little bit more hype how about former number one fantasy receivers get some hype yeah i i think we'll see you know you also have people that are just so turned off by him from what happened a couple years ago that they just won't draft him at all so i think think he's probably priced accurately. At wide receiver 43 or whatever it was? Yep. 43, right after LaVisca Chenault and Marquise Brown. Okay, guys, well, the floor is yours if you'd like to go,

or we can talk about training camp battles. How about Jerry Judy as a possible ADP riser? As more and more fantasy managers forget about his rookie year. And they just, they lean on the talent and they see somebody who, you know, it's a crowded passing game for sure in Denver, but he's not the one coming back from a torn ACL. And he's not the up and down tight end. He's just the mostly down receiver.

I think I look, there's clearly bounce back potential. I think anybody that reads any bounce back list on any website will find Jerry Judy's name and people will be intrigued by Judy as a second year breakout candidate at wide receiver. So whatever his ADP is now, I bet it goes up a little bit. I wouldn't be surprised if it went the other way a little bit though, just because I think people were drafting him with the hope of an aaron rogers trade and so i think everything you said is right but i wouldn't be surprised if some of where judy's being drafted now is being baked into will aaron rogers have gone i know people have done it you know already in uh in drafts that they were taking broncos players with the chance of does rogers get traded there. Now maybe they pivot now to does Watson get traded there.

But the quarterback concern has to be taken into account. Is it bad that I'm hoping that it's a Teddy Bridgewater joint in Denver now and that Bridgewater is the one that's there and not Drew Locke for the majority? I think they're going to open the season with Drew Locke, but everything's on the table. So it wouldn't be surprising if they moved on to Bridgewater at some point. And the reports this off season were Bridgewater and Judy had a great connection.

So hopefully that continues. I got one more for you, Adam. One more ADP prediction. I did want to tell you one thing about Judy. I think he might be capped on moving up two spots at wide receiver because three spots ahead of him is Cortland Sutton. Well,

maybe that's a switch. Maybe. Maybe there's something with Sutton where he's slow to be ready or something like that. That could happen. All right, what's your second one? You know what? If he's going to be the outside receiver and Judy lines up everywhere,

maybe Judy becomes like that short and mid-range target and Bridgewater likes throwing short and mid-range passes. What else you got? Well, this will be a good transition into the training camp battles, but I'd like to know what James Robinson's ADP is right now. No, please tell me it went down. It's about 62, I think. Okay, that's...

You know... Go down more. 63. I wonder if it stays the same, which I think it's a little too rich to go early round six on James Robinson based on uh based on what we think is going to happen there but that's a camp battle that i'm not sure isn't going to go his way where etn is just more of that you know x factor type player and robinson

you know reprises his role as the lead back in Jacksonville. And if that happens, if it becomes clear that that's what's going to happen, at least to start the season, that ADP will go up. He'll be a round four pick. I don't know about round four. No chance. I think if it's clear that he's going to be the feature back in Jacksonville, he will be even higher. Unless ETN's hurt.

But it's never going to be clear that he's going to have a third down roll. So he's going to be only his ceiling is capped as like running his downs guy. Well, what's ETN's role going to be? Is it going to be strictly third down roll and like gadget player type? If it is, then good luck, Jacksonville. What a stupid draft pick. Yeah, it was a terrible pick if that's what happens. Well, at least for this year yeah there's a terrible pick if that's what happens well at least for this year it's a bad pick but that is something that's kind of on the table

based on what urban meyer said after the draft is he going to be their version of percy harvin or curtis samuel or you know throw in any player that urban meyer has coached previously that's been you know lined up all over the field but doesn't necessarily get 15 touches per game. And Robinson could be in line for 15 touches per game, and maybe he still plays on third down along with Etienne, and maybe he gets a couple more catches. Maybe not a couple, maybe one more catch per game than what we're projecting right now, which isn't very much.

But I think fantasy managers, when they get to round four and when that dead zone starts to hit, they're going to race to take anybody that they think can get to 15 plus touches per week. And if Robinson's going to be that guy, then I absolutely see a way where people gravitate toward him before the running backs are gone. He is the definition of the dead zone running back.

But why, you know, that's a funny thing. I'm not sure about that. Well, first, you know, look, Josh Jacobs is going in the fourth round, so the role you're carving out for Robinson

in this hypothetical scenario doesn't sound too different than Jacobs, perhaps. But why is he running back dead zone? I mean, usually running back dead zone is older, not good, necessarily. We don't know how good they are. Maybe we still don't know how good James Robinson was, but he's played one year in the league and he was a top

eight fantasy running back. He was a star, but now he's got competition. He had no competition last year. Yeah, I know. But isn't the type of competition that we're used to seeing in running back rooms and running back groups?

Is it even the same as what Josh Jacobs is going to have with Kenyon Drake? We're going off of Urban Meyer saying that Travis Etienne is not going to necessarily play running back, or that's the interpretation I think people are taking from that. If he doesn't play running back, then James Robinson still has a very significant role. But it would be so stupid not to play Travis Etienne at running back based on what his college pedigree and college performance was, has a very significant role, but it would be so stupid not to play Travis Etienne at running back. I don't disagree.

Based on what his college pedigree and college performance was, on top of the fact that you know they're going to work in Carlos Hyde to whatever stupid impact he's going to have too. So it's two guys that are going to take James Robinson off the field to whatever extent. And he's a guy that if you're taking in round five, you're wasting a pick. And that's what his ADP is right now. Or 62, you said, Adam? 63.

So just after round five. So round six. I would like him a round later than that. Obviously, everybody would. Still going ahead of... If I can get him for the end of round six, start of round seven, I'm feeling good. You're still going ahead of Chase Edmonds.

Would you do that? Edmonds or Robinson? Edmonds. Robinson. Okay. That's easy. Yes, it is. How many catches do you think ETN gets?

47. Yeah, 17 games I go higher. Okay. If he can get... There's only been one running back in the last five years that's had 60 or more catches and 100 or more carries and not finished top 12 in PPR. That was Le'Veon Bell two years ago. One of the worst running back seasons I've ever seen. and 100 or more carries and not finish top 12 in PPR.

That was Le'Veon Bell two years ago, one of the worst running back seasons I've ever seen. So you said 47 catches. Jamie, go a little bit higher. It doesn't seem like you guys think he's going to be a 60-catch guy. That's for 16-game season. For 17-game season, that'd be 64 catches. If he does have that significant of a role and he's not just like a third down guy getting, you know, 50, 60 carries,

then he's going to be gold, Etienne. But it's very, it is unclear what his role is. I'm hoping that he can be in the 60 plus catch range. That'll be wonderful. We're going to take a break here. When we come back, let's get into the training camp battles. A lot of running back battles,

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Two running back spots ahead of Leonard Fournette. Running back 33, running back 35, both of them in round eight. And who are you guys taking first, Jones or Fournette? I'm taking for net for net i do like every time i take no matter what it's just it's so such a crowded backfield right every time i take for net and i i just did it in this pick by pick series that jamie mentioned earlier i feel gross and it almost doesn't matter what round it's in i just feel like uh is this a like a total waste of a pick?

Total dart throw on Leonard Fournette, which is why you really shouldn't take him. I think my sentence is over. Do you see a scenario other than injury where either of these two guys really rise in ADP?

Rise? No. I think these are guys you settle for. These are guys that in some cases you avoid. As long as they're healthy with Giovanni Bernard there, there's just such a logjam for touches. One week

it could be Jones as the best one. One week it could be Gio as the best one. One week it could be Frenette as the best one. One week, it could be Geo as the best one. One week, it could be Fournette as the best one. Fournette is the one, though, that profiles to do everything, whereas Jones seems more like a rusher, and Geo more like a pass catcher. All right, we talked about the Jaguars. Right now, the 80-piece, Travis Etienne is RB21.

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they won, but his reaction was great. Anyway, USA. Okay, who's going first, guys? Sermon or Mostert? What do you think? I'll say Mostert's going first. Sermon by two spots. RB 29, Mostert RB 31.

They're in round seven. Yeah. Do you see a scenario where either of these guys rocket ship emoji? Oh, yeah. Injury, but that's, I think, the only thing. Mostert limps off during practice. No more injury.

I mean, that's that. You said, can you see any scenario? What other scenario could there possibly be? That's the answer. The answer is, if it's only injury, then the answer is no. I'm just going to make the rules. Injury is not a scenario here. Okay, I'll say, fine.

No injury. Trey Sermon looks good every day in practice and breaks off a couple of nice runs in the preseason. Rocket ship emoji. He'll go ahead of Raheem mostart people will get excited about him he'll be a uh at least a top 70 pick if not a top 60 pick if people start to get really excited about trey sermon okay thank you dave there no situation barring injury okay broncos running backs who's going first?

Javante Williams is going first. Ten running back spots ahead of Melvin Gordon. Two rounds ahead of Melvin Gordon. Javante Williams is RB22. He is currently around five picks since July 1st. Melvin Gordon is RB32. He's around seven pick. And last year, Gordon and Lindsey combined

for almost 1,500 yards and 10 touchdowns on 333 carries. That doesn't include a little bit extra from Royce Freeman, just those top two. They ran the ball a lot. Uh, so who's, I think,

I mean, I'm surprised that Javante Williams has gone up to RB 22. Do you think it's more likely to go up or down from here? Down. That's too high. And I like Javante Williams a lot. I think he's, again, without an injury situation, you're banking on him being the lead guy

in Denver by a lot to take him in that spot. So he should hopefully get the job. He should prove that he's better than Melvin Gordon. The Broncos drafting him will hopefully be an indication that they want him to be the lead guy if he proves that he can get the job. He should prove that he's better than Melvin Gordon. The Broncos drafting him will hopefully be an indication that they want him to be the lead guy if he proves that he can handle the job. But Melvin Gordon's been a good running back. It's not like there should be that much difference between the two.

Gordon, there was a reporter from Denver suggesting that it's his job and you're wasting a pick taking Javante Williams ahead of him. So we'll see. But I think Javante Williams ahead of him uh so we'll see but you know I think Javante Williams has the upside he's he's the he's the ceiling play but you know if you tell me that I can get Melvin Gordon was three rounds later I'd rather do that yeah too you gotta be patient too like if you're gonna spend that type of a pick honestly if you spend any pick on Javante Williams you can't be mad after the first four weeks of the season if Melvin Gordon is hogging goal line work and playing in passing downs

and getting good numbers to begin the year. You can't be upset about that. You just have to wait until he messes up for Javante Williams to get in there and kind of take over as that 1A back. But I think that's the ceiling for Javante Williams, no matter what, is he'll be the 1A and someone else will be the 1B,

whether it's Gordon because Williams outplays him or Mike Boone because Gordon stinks or Gordon gets injured. Sorry, Adam. Got to bring it up. That's a possibility.

I like that Melvin Gordon has good year-to-date numbers, but it's been inconsistent. He only had six games out of 15 last year with 15-plus in PPR. And over the last two seasons, 11 out of 29 games. Well, last year it took Lindsey getting hurt for him to have good games. It did, and he's 28 years old. And I don't know.

What I'm worried about the most is that Gordon stays involved just enough for the majority of the season to limit the snaps played and the touches that Javante Williams gets. And they also brought in Mike Boone. They might go with three running backs at certain points during the year. So I agree. I think it's way too early to Jake Javante Williams. I love the talent. You're going to have to get lucky and have him fall to you on draft day.

So would you rather, if you look at the Niners and the Broncos, how would you rank those four running backs? Williams, Mostert, Gordon, Sermon. I believe I have it as Mostert, Williams, Sermon, Gordon. Okay. I really just don't want to draft Melvin Gordon. Okay. So this, I could see rocket ship emojis here for the jets running back situation for

Michael Carter, who is RB 30 right now around seven pick seven Coleman RB 57. And, uh, another report today, another just brighter speculation that Michael Carter is going to be the one a, but yeah.

Can you make a case that Michael Carter should go ahead of Javante Williams? A good case. Yeah, I mean, there's a clear path to playing time there. Look at the guys he's competing with. He's got weaker competition, and I think that offensive line is going to be better than people think.

I like that offensive line. I think Zach Wilson might be a little bit better than we're going to give him credit for. So that might end up being a competitive team. And he's a good pass catcher out of the backfield on top of being, you know, speedy little guy that can make a quick cut and go. So it wouldn't surprise me in the least. If we had a bunch of games where he's getting 14 touches,

I don't know if I'm, I'll say what the hell 15 touches per game. And, and that line works for him and the jets are competitive. And I think he's got a chance to be better than Javante Williams this year. So I'm drafting him ahead of Javante Williams already. I just prefer to do it in like late round six. Yeah. I'd rather have Javante cause I think there's a higher ceiling, but Carter is, is not far behind. I think Carter helps you sooner.

That could be. Do you think that it's reasonable to think about Michael Carter eventually? Not now. We need to see what happens, but moving ahead of Miles Gaskin and Mike Davis. No. Yeah. Not unless everybody's gone from the Jets.

They trade Coleman. They cut Coleman. They say he's the starter. They say he has won the job. He's the starter. I think they're basically telling that with what the reporters are saying because what people have been seeing in their workouts. But this is still a coaching staff that's going to want to rotate guys.

So I just don't see that happening. There might be a little too much hype if that happens, where he'll go into round five. This team is going to be better, but it's still going to be a little too much hype after if that happens where he'll go into round five. This team is going to be better, but it's still going to be a bad team. Oh, they're not going to the playoffs. They're going to be competitive though. They'll be way more competitive than they were last year. Bill's

running backs, Zach Moss, round nine, Devin Singletary, round 11. They combined the two of them combined for six rushing touchdowns last year, plus Antonio Williams had two. And then in 2019, Buffalo running backs had four rushing touchdowns.

So we know Josh Allen is a bit of a thief there. But yeah, I mean, Zach Moss seems to have the edge and he's being drafted that way. But should Zach Moss seems to have the edge, and he's being drafted that way. But should Zach Moss be drafted ahead of, let's say, the Bucs guys? Do you think Zach Moss should be taken ahead of them? I don't have it ranked that way right now, but I probably feel like I should because I would rather wait out Zach Moss than draft one of Jones or Fournette.

Who's got the clearest path to really being a number one running back in the situations we've talked about here? We've talked about Jacksonville. We've talked about... A number one fantasy running back? No, no, number one on their team. Number one for their team? Yeah, Jacksonville, 49ers, Broncos, Jets, Bills.

I mean, do you want to handicap each team or you just want... No, no, I mean, No, I don't want to handicap. Barring injury, who's got the best chance to really be a feature back? Robinson and Carter. I'd probably go ETN and Mostert.

Dave, do you think ETN has that chance or do you think there's no way if they use them the way that they should use them if they use them the way that first round rookie running backs get used then of course so isn't that a better case for him than for Robinson you can make the case for it I just think that they they can't just completely forget about James Robinson I mean they can't it completely forget about james robinson i mean they can't it's a new regime and he has no no bearing on what he's but he was an effective player last year and it doesn't matter they can put them on their own they're overhauling their

team if if they go with etn as a feature back i'm not saying that that's a bad thing i'd love to see it i just don't know if there's any talk about that being the case at this point. Yeah. But still, they mean they bring in two guys that, you know, have a, one guy has a history with the coach and one guy is a first round pick, you know,

versus a guy that was an undrafted free agent. It logically, it makes all the sense in the world, but they're talking like ETN is going to be like, well, I mean, they said it once, you know,

so I don't think they're continuing. Okay. So maybe we'll, we'll learn about it. And if we see that he's taking, you know, first-team snaps and all that stuff, then it's elementary at that point. They should do it. They should do it.

They should make ETN the guy. But I think there's also a way that Robinson can get there. Yeah, I know. I mean, to invest around four-picking ETN when you just have no idea what his role is, it's a leap of faith. When are you guys comfortable? That's what all these rookie running back picks are. And that's the most expensive

one of them all. Right. That is the most expensive one. That's what I'm saying. But yeah, when would you take Travis ETN? When are you comfortable with it? Round four in PPR, five or six and none. Sounds about right. Okay. So

I'd go a little later in PPR. We talked about the 49ers quarterback battle. Let's talk about the Saints quarterbacks here. Now with Michael Thomas out at least a month of the season. Any interest in the starter? No. If Taysom's the starter and they say he's the starter, then yes. But nothing more than number two quarterback.

Right. Fine. But in one quarterback league, I'm not drafting either guy. The problem with Jameis is that, and I'll say what I've been saying all offseason, is that Taysom's going to play. So you have to worry about how many times he's going to come off the field and if he struggles.

With Taysom winning the job, there's not a Jameis package that they're going to throw out there. You just have to anticipate Jameis thinking. I'm sorry, Taysom winning the job there's not a Jameis package that they're going to throw out there you just have to you know anticipate Jameis thinking I'm sorry Taysom's thinking and teams figuring him out but anytime you have the rushing floor that Taysom Hill will bring that makes him very intriguing as a fantasy quarterback he was going to finish as a number one fantasy quarterback had he played all 16 games last season if he was the starter from week one on I wonder if they're going to be good this year it's still a very good defense they have a very good defense. They have a very good

offensive line. They have one of the best running backs in the game. They have one of the best coaches in the game. I'd be surprised if they sucked. They probably have, as of right now, one of the worst passing games. Do we have any idea what's happened? This is going to come

down to Drew Brees' mind versus the physical skills of maybe what Jameis brings because Drew Brees was deteriorating. He was winning games with his ability to know the game. I think he was underrated. I think people really were too hard on him last year. Well, he just couldn't do the same physically that he could. I mean, it just goes without saying watching him play.

Adam, do you know, do you have any idea what the ADP has turned into for Michael Thomas since the news came out? So that would be like the last three days? Three days. Yeah, three or four days. Three days. All right, let's go over the 24th to the 26th.

Okay. And I don't know how many drafts that is. Michael Thomas, 22nd overall that can't be behind Adam Thielen before Tyler Lockett Jamar Chase that would really surprise me I don't think I'm going to draft

Michael Thomas in any league so sure you never got a word in on that when would you take him look I think if in any leagues this year. You never got a word in on that. When would you take him? Look, I think if the fantasy guys just dropped him on my roster, I'd be happy. If he was a late-round pick on my team, I'd be happy. But there are no guarantees with when he'll play, how effective he'll be when he does come back,

how quickly it'll take him to get to 100%. And we already know that the quarterback is going to be mostly a downgrade. So I'm, I'm thinking I'm comfortable taking him in round 11, which means I'm just not going to get Michael Thomas on my team. It's a different story though. If it's a PPR league with deeper benches, like the deeper the bench and the more that catches count for the more interested I am in stashing Michael Thomas. In which case, I'd bump him maybe two rounds. And then I think I've got at least a fighting chance of getting him. So in our pick-by-pick, Chris took him in round eight. And he took him ahead of Debo Samuel, Marquise Brown, Antonio Brown.

That's the range he's going to go. Yeah. Who took him? Chris? I'm not going to take him. Huh? Who took him? Chris. Chris took him in round eight. Chris. not gonna take him who took him chris chris chris took him in round eight chris chris will take him out for the year chris would have taken him around 12 or something

but yeah okay by the way i like this jamar chase since since uh yesterday jamar chairs i guess since sunday jamar chase is wide receiver 22 3 T. Higgins is wide receiver 24. Back-to-back bangles. Okay. Are you predicting that? I think T. Higgins is going that high. Yeah, me too. Let's see what it is.

Boyd is the one that I like the best. I don't even know what his ADP is, but if those two are going in that high. What did you say, 35, Adam? 36. 36. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So since July 1st,

Jamar Chase is wide receiver 24, T. Higgins is wide receiver 25, and yeah, Boyd's wide receiver 36. And that's half PPR, though, right? Yes. Yeah, so PPR is a little bit better. Half and none, he's a little in that range. Goodbye, guys. Great show.

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