Fantasy Football Today - ADP Risers and Fallers; Trey Lance Problems? (08/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

Check out our ebay store to benefit St. Jude! Bid on spots in Podcast Leagues, pre-draft calls with our analysts and more https://ebay.to/3p4Dc3Z Oh boy, Trey Lance did not look good on Thursday night.... Are we concerned? And how much of a riser is Dameon Pierce after another good showing (4:00)? The guys also give you one player they've been gravitating towards recently (9:45). Keep these names in mind when you're drafting! ... Which WR has the most bust potential in Rounds 2-3 (15:00)? Is it Keenan Allen? Mike Evans? And we re-evaluate the impact of the Tyron Smith injury. Based on recent evidence, the Cowboys skill position players could be noticeably worse without him. What does that mean for the rankings (17:00)? ... Looking at the biggest risers in average draft position (30:30)! Should Brian Robinson be drafted ahead of Antonio GIbson? Allen Robinson, A.J. Dillon and Kenneth Gainwell are also risers, and we discuss three wide receivers who are moving up (41:50) plus Cole Kmet (44:35). Now let's focus on the ADP fallers (47:50) including George Kittle, Dak Prescott and Chris Olave. And we leave you with some preseason thoughts (52:50) and some Podcast League entries (57:15)! I hope you like Pearl Jam parodies ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. Happy Friday, everybody. I am Adam Azer, joined by Heath Cummings, Dave Richard, and Jamie Isenberg. Hey, did you ever have one of those mornings? You know, you wake up and everything seems great. Birds are chirping. It's Friday. You're doing your reading.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You're settling in. And then all of a sudden you go, I have way too much Trey Lance. Because I am totally having one of those mornings right now. Yeah, Trey. First topic on today totally having one of those mornings right now. Yeah, Trey. First topic on today's show is a little bit of hyperbole, but it's Trey Lance sucks. So welcome to the show, Heath. Trey Lance sucks.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I love this start to the show. And I think you should just amend it. I think maybe it's more fair to say Trey Lance sucks if he's not allowed to run. Maybe. Or just Trey Lance sucked. He will be allowed to run. Or doesn't have tackles. That could be part of it, too. It was ugly.
Starting point is 00:02:29 7 of 11, 49 yards, one rushing yard against Houston. But just bad passes, right? He was off target. Missed. And a couple of them. I thought there was at least one of those bad passes where he probably would have ran for 15 yards. He was scrambling out to the right, and he couldn't, and nobody was open,
Starting point is 00:02:47 so he just spiked it in the middle of the field. I hope that's what it was at least. If he was intending for that to go near a receiver, then we have bigger problems. I think he saw the receiver on that play, but still figured just to get out of that play and go on to the next play. So it's kind of like cool that he saw the receiver, and it was Ayuk. Ayuk found a way to find space, but
Starting point is 00:03:07 he really should have tried to actually complete the pass instead of spike it. He did not have Debo and Kittle and Ayuk for all of his series, I think just the first two. Lance threw 11 passes to 10 different receivers yesterday. We can end this fun here.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Is anybody less likely to draft Trey Lance based on what we saw in preseason week three? No, no. Heath. I, I couldn't like drafting with you guys. I could not be any less likely to draft Trey Lance.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It's true, but we, this is why I always draft the backup every time i draft when i draft trey lance every time but you still feel 100 confidence starting in week one against chicago yes i think so but my real life scenario right now is trey lance or joe burrow and trey lance or matthew stafford and stafford is bills in week one right so i guess i think i gotta go with trey lance i would absolutely be starting stafford i donord is the bills in week one, right? So I guess I think I got to go with Trey Lance. I would absolutely be starting Stafford. I don't think that bills or ams game is going to be anything other than a,
Starting point is 00:04:11 you know, Bonanza. It's a good point. It's just a very good, like the bears. 49ers might be a 14, 12 grind it out. Don't,
Starting point is 00:04:21 don't lose this game for us. Trey start Cairo Santos. Yeah, there you go. Good use of Bonanza. Now, today is an ADP show. We're going to look at ADP movers. If you go to the CBS Sports ADP, there are arrows. I want to explain how this works in case you're new. There are arrows
Starting point is 00:04:37 next to some of the names. The green arrows that are pointing up are the good ones. Those are the guys who are rising. The red arrows that are pointing down, I think those are the bad ones, right, Jamie? I think that's how it works. Okay, yeah. So I just looked at those arrows
Starting point is 00:04:52 and saw who's moving up and down in ADP, and then I looked at other websites to see where the ADP was. So we'll talk about some of those players. Obviously, Bryan Robinson's moving way up. Now, do other sites have those fancy graphics like we do? Heck no, they do not. Oh, yeah, there we go. AJ no, they do not. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 There we go. AJ Dillon's moving up. Chase Edmonds is moving up. Christian Kirk is moving up. Brandon Ayuk is moving up. But there's some nuance to it as well. Dak Prescott is moving down. Sky Moore, Chris Olave moving down.
Starting point is 00:05:19 We'll talk about those guys. But obviously, Jamie, one big ADP riser is Damian Pierce. I haven't heard. What did he do? Well, he was at it again, and this obviously was before last night. So on CBS Sports ADP, Damian Pierce is moving up 14 spots to 75th overall. That makes him RB29, which is basically exactly where he is, RB28 on NFC over the past week. Lower than that, though, RB39 on Fantasy Football Calculator in the last five days.
Starting point is 00:05:47 But the problem, Jamie, with the ADP risers and saying, oh, Damian Pierce is now RB29, is if he's rising so much, it's also taking account where he was. He was buried a month ago. So you know what I'm saying? So this may not be an accurate picture of where he's being drafted.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So I know he's a riser, and he looked great yesterday, and he's clearly the guy for the Texans. Didn't really play against the 49ers' first-team defense. Most of their best defenders were sitting. Where would you draft Damian Pierce? And is he up even more after yesterday's performance? I mean, he's obviously up even more after yesterday's performance. So I think he'll probably end up going in non PPR around five and full and half PPR, probably around six.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Look, he's, he's now worked himself into the conversation of the uncertain guys. And, you know, that's Cam Akers, that's Travis CTN, that's now a Brees Hall and Ezekiel Elliott with some of their concerns. That's a I think, I'm not saying he should go ahead or behind these guys, I'm just saying where people are, I think, starting to debate him. Elijah Mitchell, Miles Stanton, you know, that group, he's either been in that group
Starting point is 00:06:55 for some people or ahead of that group for others. You know, there is a clear path to success for him right now and my only worry with what his downside could be, to be honest with you, is what role in the passing game will he have? Will he have a significant role
Starting point is 00:07:09 or will he have a minor role? And, you know, he was in some short yards. He was in some third down short yard situations yesterday, but he wasn't in on obvious passing downs so far. And so will Rex Burkhead, who's, you know, may or may not be better than him in that role, going to stay in that. Is Marlon Mack going to take him off the field for a significant stretch?
Starting point is 00:07:28 That I don't think, but I'm excited. I think he's got an opportunity to be a really good fantasy option. Yeah. Round six is exactly where I would expect he's going to go. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes in round five, actually. I feel like this is now we've reached the point to where I'm not going to be able to draft Damian Pierce anymore um which i drafted him plenty early in the summer so that feels good um but he's probably still not going to have a huge third
Starting point is 00:07:54 down roll and he's still on a bad team so like the guy who i would like to move him ahead of is josh jacobs but i think he's probably in the exact same situation as Josh Jacobs on a much worse offense. So I'm not going to be able to do that. What about Cam Akers? I know Dave has been the low guy on Cam Akers, so I'm assuming that's easy for you, Dave. Pierce over Akers? Nope.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I still have Akers over Pierce. And I know that seems... What? I said again, same situation, worse offense. Yeah. Is it though? I mean, that's pretty much it. I think that Pierce has – I think that Pierce doesn't have as much upside as Akers.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I just think – I don't know. Like Akers definitely has more – his downside is zero. Who knows how good he'll be. And Pierce can be all right. I'm just – look, Pierce looked good. I think he ran better. I think he was a better balanced runner than he was in his first game. I think he might have been just like way too excited in the first preseason game.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And he, you know, still ran very well against San Francisco, but Niners were without a bunch of their starters. That made the offensive line for Houston look really, really good. It's, I think he's a good low-end number two fantasy running back, and I think round six is fine. I'll take him in late round six, but I'm not shooting him into round five saying, yeah, he's going
Starting point is 00:09:14 to be awesome. It's still the Texans. They're still not expected to be particularly good. I can't imagine there's going to be a lot of games where he's getting 20 carries. Right, but you said he's in the same situation as Akers. I guess I would argue that he's going to be a lot of games where he's getting 20 carries. Right, but you said he's in the same situation as Akers. I guess I would argue that he's going to dominate carries for the Texans, whereas Akers has to contend with Daryl Henderson.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Do you see that? See, I don't know if that's happening in Houston. Okay. If that were happening in Houston, then I think we'd be a little more open. Why wouldn't that happen? I mean, he is. Because I think, I just think that Houston's going to use other running backs too. Jamie already pointed out that he really hasn't played much on third downs.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, that I get, but I'm just talking. Someone's always going to be there. He carries. And if Mack makes a team, he'll spell them a little bit. Like, they're not going to just, I don't think they're going to dump everything on David. I will say this, though. If you're concerned about Rex Burkhead and Marlon Mack, he's in a really good spot. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I know he's not going to have 100% or 90% of the carries, but if I'm looking at the Akers versus Henderson split compared to the just carries, just carries, compared to the Pierce versus everyone else in Houston split, I would think Pierce is going to have a bigger percentage of the carries than Cam Akers. At least at the beginning of the year with the caveat, assuming Daryl Henderson is back for week one.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah, I would expect it to be pretty similar, but I haven't really bought into the Daryl Henderson being a 1B if Cam Akers is okay. Okay. Okay, that's the big stuff from last night. We'll talk more about the games a little bit later ronald jones auditioning um wondering if maybe he gets cut if he could actually have some value i mean would what if he ends up in atlanta or something like that you know uh because ronald
Starting point is 00:10:56 jones at least they did carry four guys last year though so they could carry four guys again sure and derrick orr's gone's gone. Give me one player as we head into the weekend and people are drafting. Give me one player that you've been gravitating towards that you find yourself higher on or drafting a lot more just recently. Dave, I'll start with you. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I don't know if there's necessarily... I'm looking at my rankings right now. I don't know if there's necessarily – I'm looking at my rankings right now. I don't know. One receiver that's caught my eye, and he did it more in the second preseason game, not the third preseason game, is Nico Collins. I like the way that he can turn back toward the quarterback quickly. He's a big guy. They both love him, and Davis Mills, after the second preseason game,
Starting point is 00:11:44 talked about Nico Collins as someone that they're going to want to use a lot in one-on-one situations. I think he'll be in a lot of one-on-one situations. And I think Houston's going to end up throwing because of game script more than they'd like. And I think that would also help Nico Collins. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Let's go to Heath. Heath, one player you've been gravitating towards lately. I was trying to think of someone besides Mark Andrews, Aaron Jones, DJ Moore, Brandon Cooks, the guys that I say every time. I think it's Adam Thielen, because it seems like he just falls and falls and falls until I decide to take him. And I tweeted out last week that there's basically no difference between Adam Thielen and Mike Evans week one through 12 last year or the year before that. So yeah, Mike, Adam Thielen is older and he might get hurt again, but I don't think that there should be a four round difference between the two of them. And also let's talk about Adam Thielen versus, you know, guys that I've seen go in that
Starting point is 00:12:41 range. Uh, Juju Smith,Schuster, Darnell Mooney. I think you like Mooney better, right? I like Mooney. I've got them back-to-back, but I think the guy that's most interesting is Gabe Davis. I think we're kind of hoping that Gabe Davis can be Adam Thielen. Yeah, I will just say that Gabe Davis, well, actually, I don't know about on CBS.
Starting point is 00:13:03 No, Gabe Davis is behind Thielen on CBS. That shocks me. But never in our drafts. Never in our drafts and on other sites. I don't think that's the case either. But yeah, like what about, I mean, for you, I'm sure it's easy. Alan Lazard versus Thielen. Dave and Jamie, Lazard or Thielen?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Thielen. Yep. Yeah, I always get mad when Heath drafts Thielen like two picks before him. It happens every draft. He always takes Thielen. Yep. I always get mad when Heath drafts Thielen like two picks before him. It happens every draft. He always takes Thielen. I think the last two drafts, I've drafted Thielen like two picks after Alan Lazard.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I would take Thielen ahead of Lazard. I hope I haven't been the one taking. Because I like Lazard. I take Lazard a lot, but I'd rather have Thielen. All right, Jamie, one player you've been gravitating toward lately? Christian Kirk.
Starting point is 00:13:45 The uses in that preseason game against the Steelers, you know, made me realize I was too low on him. And, you know, he's in this feeling Lazard range for me, you know, behind them, but in that range. And so, especially when we see these drafts that we've been doing, which I think is reflective of a lot of, you know, experienced fantasy players in PPR, certainly the high stakes league when receivers get pushed up a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You know, he's, he's now a, a round six, seven pick. And I don't think anybody was drafting him there in our drafts for sure at the start of this. And so, you know, if he's, if he's going to be this much of a popular option for Trevor Lawrence, it's hard to overlook what he can be in PPR. All right. So you got three names there that Dave says he's going with gravitating toward Nico Collins late Heath, Adam Thielen, Jamie, Christian Kirk.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I've got a big announcement here for those of you who signed up pretty good by Thomas, by the way, to get that up quickly. What did he get up? I didn't see. I mean, he had no idea I was saying Christian Kirk. No, he didn't. Yeah. He must've had that ready to go. i think christian kirk is in the adp risers so uh but you know what why good great job tom it right just like come up with that
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Starting point is 00:16:15 to raise as much money as we can and we need your help. Quick random question here. Out of this group of wide receivers in rounds two to three, who has the most bust potential? Talk about how much we love this group of wide receivers in rounds two to three, who has the most bust potential? Talk about how much we love this group so much, but round two to three, Debo Samuel, C.D. Lamb, Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, Michael Pittman, T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Who has the most bust potential? Debo, Lamb, Tyreek Hill, Evans, A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, Michael Pittman, T. Higgins. Heath, what's your pick? I think it has to be Debo Samuel. Just because of how outlandish his efficiency was, how unusual his role was, and now the uncertainty with Trey Lance's passing and how the offense will change,
Starting point is 00:17:00 the possibility that Brandon Ayuk could just begin the year where Brandon Ayuk was in the middle of the year last year. It has to be Debo, but I would give an honorable mention to Keenan Allen, who has some age concerns and some Mike Williams concerns and some Josh Palmer concerns, maybe. Dave, who's got the most bus potential in that group? I'll make the case for Mike Evans, just because he's one of the elder statesmen of that group, doesn't get a slew of targets, needs the touchdown volume from Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I don't think you can count on him to get to 1,300 yards, 1,000 yards, sure, and probably should be drafted toward the end of this group at this point. Okay, Jamie, most bus potential in that group? It's Debo by far. It's everything Heath alluded to. On top of the fact that if Kittle
Starting point is 00:17:50 stays healthy for a full season, that's another guy that's going to just eat away at his targets. If Elijah Mitchell comes back at 100% and stays healthy, then with Jeff Wilson there and how many running backs they may use, he may not get as many carries as we saw, which I think anybody should expect that. It's Debo by a mile. Okay. All right. We got some news and notes here. We do
Starting point is 00:18:10 have to talk more about Ezekiel Elliott without Tyron Smith. And then after this, we are going to give you some ADP risers and ADP fallers. But the big news, and Dave, you have a good stat on this as well. Tyron Smith, unlikely to return until December due to the hamstring injury. And ESPN had a stat over the past five seasons, Ezekiel Elliott has averaged four and a half yards per carry with Tyron Smith on the field and four yards per carry with Smith off the field as a half a yard per carry worse over the last five seasons. I went and dug into it a little bit more and just looked at the games that Tyron Smith has missed. And I think that's,
Starting point is 00:18:49 that might be weighted a lot heavily in the last two seasons because he had 2020 for sure. 2020. Yeah. 2020, there were 13 games that Tyron Smith missed and Zeke average 4.1 yards per carry in those games last year. Almost, almost all of them those games. Last year, almost all of them.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. Last year, there were six games and Zeke averaged 5.1, 2.9, 3.6, 3.3, 4.1 and 4.9 yards per carry. And that 4.9 was week 18 against the Eagles backups.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I looked at the, you know, the first four years, 2016, 17, 18, 19. It wasn't that bad. I mean, it was better. So I don't know what to make of it. But there was also the stat about the explosive plays, Dave, with and without Tyron Smith. Sure. If you do it over the last two seasons, his explosive play rate, this is the percentage of plays where he's getting, I think the number is 12 or more rushing yards on a carry.
Starting point is 00:19:47 4.1% without Smith, 7.6% with Tyron Smith on the field. Those are both, you know, not great numbers. Maybe 7.6 is okay, but 4.1 is bad. His zero slash negative yard rate, these are carries that get him zero or negative yards. Without Tyron Smith, that was at 16.2. So it's like four times as many as the explosive play rates. His rush EPA was minus 0.19. He had one rushing touchdown every 32.9 attempts.
Starting point is 00:20:18 His avoided tackle rate was actually very high, but I think that's just a sign of bad blocking and he's trying to escape. It doesn't mean he's getting anywhere. 1.19 yards per contact per rush. That might be just as valuable as yards per carry. Bottom line is that he's definitely slowing down. We've documented that on this show all offseason long, and he is considerably worse without Tyron Smith. And I don't think the rookie they drafted is about to come in and play
Starting point is 00:20:45 gangbusters at left tackle. I don't think he's ready for that. I move Zeke way down. I'm going to be out on Ezekiel Elliott. He's like a late round five pick for me now. Damian Pierce, just to close with Dave. No, I still have Zeke ahead of Pierce, but that's just me being a stickler on Pierce. There's another thing I want to mention.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Zeke did an interview on SiriusXM NFL Radio, and they asked him about how he's going to rebound this year. And one of the points he brought up is that he's going to be fresher because of TP. And I'm not talking about the TP we all use. We're talking about Tony Pollard. And so he's mentioning Tony Pollard as a reason why he'll stay fresher. So drum beats getting louder for Tony Pollard, having a significant role in the offense. It actually makes a ton of sense if they use them as a receiver because they're thin on that until
Starting point is 00:21:34 Michael Gallup is good to go. But if he gets work on top of that as a traditional running back, that's a lot of work off of Zeke's plate. I'm not sure I moved him down enough. He's a late round five pick in PPR. Okay. Heath? Do we have, and I can try to find this, but do we have any information on Tony Pollard's averages with and without Tyron Smith? I can find it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I can find it because I still have the pages open, and it's an easy find for me to do. So give me a minute. It's not just though. It's not just Tyron Smith. There's no Lyle Collins who was part of that offensive line the last two seasons, and he's not there anymore. Connor Williams was part of the offensive line. He's not there anymore. You go back to the numbers you referenced Adam, when he was doing a great job with that was with Travis Frederick, I would imagine for a good portion of that as well. And we know how much he meant to this offense, their center.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So, you know, Zeke is just tough to trust at this point. You know, it's just offensive line change, downgrade. It's his decline. You know, I mean, the thing that's propping Zeke up, which is still a good thing, is you know he's going to get the chance to be the leader in touches right they have made that painfully clear jerry jones is going out of his way to make that painfully clear and mike mccarthy is too much of a puppet to go against what jerry wants to do and so it's only a matter of time before at at whatever scenario tony pollard just proves to be that much better
Starting point is 00:23:00 or the team is struggling that they're going to make a switch not necessarily a full-on switch where tony pollard is the lead guy, but clearly make it more of a 50-50 change. So, I mean, you know my stance on Zeke. I was starting to warm up to him before the Tyron Smith injury. Now I can't trust it. For the record, if Jerry Jones was paying me like $10 million a year, I would do what he says a lot of the time too, just for the record.
Starting point is 00:23:23 All right, Heath, I've got your stats. This is the past two seasons of Tony Pollard without Tyron Smith on the field. His rush APA, minus.10. So technically it's better than Zeke's, but not by a lot. Success rate, 34.8%. Plays of zero or negative yards. These are just rushes of zero or negative yards. 20.6%.
Starting point is 00:23:43 That's worse than Zeke. Avoided tackle rate, 30.5%. That is huge. Explosive play rate, 10.6%. That's pretty good. That's much better than Zeke. Yeah, it is. The only other thing, and this is a stat just for Adam, is his yards per rush were 4.5, which is really good. It was 5.8 with Tyron Smith last year. For Pollard. That's kind of my point.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Like, I don't – I think if – and I don't disagree with downgrading Zeke. I'll have him around 21 as well. I'm not the high guy on Zeke. And that's not the point of the Tony Pollard thing. It's just like I don't think this is a – the negativity for Zeke is anything other than a negativity for Pollard as well. Well, I agree. There should be a little bit of a downgrade for him also, but if they are going to use him more in the passing game,
Starting point is 00:24:38 and that's his role, not that Zeke will not be used in the passing game, but if Tony Pollard is, you know, how do we make up for no Gallup, no Washington, and Tolbert being a rookie, and that's what they're going to do with him, you know, some safer throws for Dak, more pressure in his face, ball out quicker. Pollard may win because of this
Starting point is 00:24:56 as opposed to necessarily losing because of this. Yeah, and just to kind of clarify the reason why I brought up these stats on Zeke the last two years and the years before that. I mean, Zeke hasn't been as good of a running back the last two years, and that's when he spent most of his time without Tyron Smith. But Dave, you specifically looked within those two years with and without Smith, and the numbers were just worse. So it's hard to make the case.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Just from rushing. I don't have it on receiving. It's strictly rushing. But the problem is... It's certainly relevant, but there's so many other moving parts to this. When you have all these different line changes. The thing that's made Zeke... He's an unbelievable player, and he's been so good. The thing that takes him from star to superstar has been this offensive line. And that's a big reason why he's been so successful.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And now it's just decimated. Yeah. I talked about it on HQ yesterday. Look at the other players around him. David Montgomery, Brees Hall. Is the Cowboys line worse than those lines? Definitely not in the case of Montgomery. Travis Etienne,
Starting point is 00:26:00 is he going to have a good offensive line? I don't think so. I don't think so. Close to the league average. CTN? Is he going to have a good offensive line? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't know if it's going to be good. Close to the league average. I know they got Brandon Scherf. Maybe not that close.
Starting point is 00:26:12 They got some issues. I don't know. I guess I can look at where PFF ranked them. Anybody cares. Anyway, let's move on. So, more news real quick here. There was a pretty big brawl in the Rams-Bengals joint practice. I don't know if those two teams have any history or not.
Starting point is 00:26:30 San Francisco Center. How is he not getting suspended? He will. You think he will? Yes. I don't think he will, but he should. I don't know. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It would be a new standard by the NFL if they suspend him. Their policy is that the team's responsible for that. I can't imagine the Rams are going to do it. Yeah. Someone posted a screenshot of the helmet actually hitting somebody else's head and it dented. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:27:00 The head or the helmet? The helmet he was swinging. I don't know if it stayed that way, if it just flexed, but it smushed. Yeah, that's Jamie's laugh. By the way, Jaguars, according to PFF, 26th best offensive line. This was over a month ago this article came out. That's just their guess, preseason.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Jimmy Ward, San Francisco safety could miss substantial time. Good, very important player for them. Jets wide receiver Denzel Mims has requested a trade. Juju Smith-Schuster did not practice and did not play, but he seems like he's making progress. Kenny Pickett is making a late push to be the starting quarterback, according to Mark Cabali of The Athletic. Guys, real quick, who do you want?
Starting point is 00:27:41 If you have Deontay Johnson or Chase Claypool or George Pickens or Pat Fryermuth, who do you want to If you have Deontay Johnson or Chase Claypool or George Pickens or Pat Frymuth, who do you want to be the quarterback, Pickett or Trubisky? I'm good with either one, to be honest with you. Yeah. I love Trubisky, but I want Pickett because he has more upside. One more note on the Chiefs, Adam. Juju was warming up with Mahomes before the game, so that's a good sign.
Starting point is 00:28:03 MBS is in the concussion protocol. Yes, thank you. So keep an eye on that because if that's serious and that lingers, right now I think their pecking order at receiver, and Heath, correct me if I'm wrong, is Juju 1, MVS 2, Hardman 3, Watson 4, and Skymore 5 based on their usage. And so, yeah. And I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Moore is not going to stay there. Right. But that's where they're starting right now. And any absence to clearly any of the top two will certainly increase the value for SkyMor. Yeah. I think especially early. That's an ADP faller that I love, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah. I think especially early in the year, Mikko Hardman could get a much bigger role than what we're projecting if Juju or MBS misses time. Correct. Okay, so I was going to bring this up when we talked about the preseason games, but there's not much to talk about
Starting point is 00:29:00 other than Lance and Pierce. There's some, but Watson is having a really good preseason. Does he matter in that Chiefs receiving room? Could he be a sleeper in fantasy? I picked him up in Dynasty League just because I had a roster spot to play with and see what happens. It's so wide open.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Again, if something happens to Juju and he's banged up right now, and if this is a lingering concussion for MBS, I don't think he has a lengthy concussion history. But you want guys tied to moms. I mean, if there's an opportunity here for him to make plays, he's clearly looking for him and he's clearly getting open. And so starting caliber receiver in a two-receiver league, no chance.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Deep three-receiver league, absolutely chance deep three receiver league. Absolutely. He should be someone you should take a look at if your wrench spots are deep, you know, 14 team league, 16 team league. Why not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:50 If, if he's the first guy you cut, who cares? Right. But Justin Watson, Justin Watson for the chiefs. I don't know if I want him tied to my homes. I don't really see how he's going to run within that scenario,
Starting point is 00:30:00 but if his right hand is free, that's all you need from him. I mean, even his left hand isn't bad. Yeah, good point. Drake London still not practicing due to a knee injury. Traylon Burks missed Thursday's practice. Antonio Gibson expected to be the primary kick returner for Washington, and we are going to talk about him in just a moment
Starting point is 00:30:18 after we take this quick break on Fantasy Football Today. ADP risers and fallers right after this. Welcome back to FFT, your Friday edition. Remember, we have a Saturday mailbag. On that Saturday mailbag, we'll be talking about salary cap drafts. We're going to actually be recording that at about 11.15 a.m. Eastern on Friday for the people watching live. You can watch that live on Friday. All right. First ADP riser is Brian Robinson. Now, he is up 83 spots, and his ADP right now is 115th overall. But he could be even higher than that because obviously he was very, very low before this. So Antonio Gibson is 26 spots down in CBS to 72nd overall. That puts Gibson at RB27 and Robinson at RB41. Now, if you look at Fantasy Football Calculator, they're both in the 40s. Gibson and Robinson are RBs 47 and 48. If you look at NFC ADP over the past week, Gibson is RB30. He's in the 80s. And Robinson is RB 41. He's in the he's 117th. So basically, it seems like Robinson is still not a top 100 pick.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And Gibson could be somewhere in the 80 range or could be somewhere in the 120 range. But how would you guys suggest we draft these Washington commanders running backs? Dave Richard. I think you should draft Brian Robinson and let somebody else draft Antonio Gibson. Thank you. When would you draft Brian Robinson? I'm taking him in the seven, eight turn. I think he's worth taking with the top 85 ish pick.
Starting point is 00:31:58 He's, he's exactly what Washington wants at running back. Gibson wasn't giving it to him. North South runner, good vision, really good power, really good balance, good pass protector, physical, and can win in short yardage situations. He's been doing that in the preseason games, and I believe he's been doing that in practice too. They are tired of Antonio Gibson making mistakes, running east-west, dancing behind the line of scrimmage. I think all this talk about them using him in space is just kind of a ploy to try and trade him. Because they've got JD McKissick for that.
Starting point is 00:32:33 McKissick can do it too. If they don't trade him, then Gibson's a backup to both Robinson and McKissick. I think Robinson's going to be the lead guy there. We've seen Gibson score double-digit touchdowns each of the past two seasons for the Commanders. Look, I think that there's some pretty good upside for Robinson, and I'm happy to take him. I'm happy to draft him as a No. 3 RB. He's in the early 30s for me in my PPR rankings. If you're getting him as your fourth RB, if you're getting him in Round 9 or Round 10,
Starting point is 00:33:02 you're taking advantage of your league mates, and you should not feel bad about at all. And I think you're higher on Damian Harris than I am, but where do you have Robinson compared to Harris? Cause that's the guy that I kind of keep coming back to is where I think he's probably a poor man's version of Damian Harris. Yeah, I think that's fair. I've got Harris a spot ahead of him. Would not surprise me if Robinson had 15 to 20 more receptions than Harris which is me saying that I think Robinson can have 15 or 20 receptions this year no Harris had 15 or 20 last year didn't he maybe but I'm just making a career if I'm not mistaken okay so I'm just making a joke about Harris I still think Harris is the lead running back for New England
Starting point is 00:33:43 as long as he's with New England and I think he's got the potential to score as many, if not more touchdowns than Robinson. So yes, I'm drafting Harris out of them. I'm drafting Damian Pierce out of them, Devin Singletary, Edmonds, Miles Sanders. That happens to be the order, all those guys ahead of Harris and then Brian Robinson. But I think he's a fantastic value. And where I'm drafting him, that's me. Where you guys can draft him, you're going to get even better value because your league hasn't dropped yet.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I'm going to just put an asterisk on what you said because Harris left practice on Thursday, Wednesday, and may be hurt. So there's your out. Oh, of course that would change things. I did not know that. I think we're going to see, at least I know, I have three drafts.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I'm probably going to overdraft Ramondre Stevenson this weekend because of the off chance that Harris does miss any time. Because, I mean, for me, they're very close to begin with. And so I'll probably take Stevenson maybe a round or two before he goes if Harris misses any time. So a little piece of advice for you there. And I would just say, like, I'm still pretty opposite on this whole thing. I'm right about where ADP is.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Round 8 for Gibson. Round 9, 10 for Robinson. I'm just not as sure that this thing with Gibson, where he's at right now, is permanent. And if things go well for Antonio Gibson, and I'll have Robinson a little higher than 45. I've got a rankings update this afternoon. But if things go right for Gibson,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I still think he has a lot more upside than Robinson does. All right, next up, before I get to that. Yeah, just go away McKissick. Go away, James. Please hit the like button, by the way. There are like 650 people watching right now and we have 57 likes so if you wouldn't mind that's rude yeah we have almost 700 people watching so just please hit that like button we'd appreciate it we'll help our content
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Starting point is 00:36:00 So please hit donate if you can anything five bucks, 10 bucks, whatever it is. But, you know, I appreciate that. All right, let's go. Adam will match your donations up to 50 cents. Alan Robinson is up 15 spots. He's now 59th overall on CBS, but he's wide receiver 18, which is pretty low for 59th overall is low for wide receiver 18. Just shows you how, I guess, running back heavy it is early on CBS.
Starting point is 00:36:30 He's wide receiver 27 on shows you how i guess running back heavy it is early on cbs um he's wide receiver wide receiver 27 on fantasy football calculator wide receiver 20 on nfc over the past week but alan robinson is a riser any reason for that jamie i mean i i i'm an alan robinson guy so i'm i'm glad he's rising he should be rising i think he's in the same range of guys should be in the same range of guys like courtland Sutton, Mike Williams and Brandon Cooks from where we are, where we are, for where I am expecting him to perform. Obviously, Brandon Cooks continues to be the most disrespected player in the history of the game. But in any event, Robinson might be this year as well. just based on what his role should be for the Rams. We saw the combination of Robert Woods and Odell Beckham and what those opportunities could be for a player that might be at this point better than those two guys where they were. And so the lack of a proven third receiver at this point
Starting point is 00:37:16 with Van Jefferson banged up, I think makes that even more attractive for both Cooper Cup and Robinson. Really the only concern I have for Robinson is Stafford's elbow. And so if Stafford has any problem during the season and misses time, then poor Allen Robinson is stuck with John Walford in another bad quarterback scenario. But best quarterback and coach he's ever going to be with. And I think the car wash in Los Angeles will be fantastic
Starting point is 00:37:37 for Allen Robinson's upside this year. Allen Robinson or Marquise Brown? Robinson easily for me. Me too. I'm the low guy on Robinson, and I've still got him ahead of Marquise Brown? Robinson easily for me. Me too. I'm the low guy on Robinson, and I've still got him ahead of Marquise Brown. Allen Robinson or Corlin Sutton? Sutton.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Sutton, but so? Last one, Allen Robinson or Jalen Waddell? Robinson. Allen Robinson. You should have. Robinson. Allen Robinson. You should have done AFC Allen Robinson. But you knew AFC Allen Robinson. That's right. Mike Williams.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Deontay Johnson. I'm not feeling that. Why? High volume, low efficiency, terrible quarterback play. Is he high volume? I think efficiency is going to go up for Johnson. Is Allen Robinson high volume? I was talking about what they to go up for Johnson. Is Allen Robinson high volume?
Starting point is 00:38:28 I was talking about what they've been throughout their careers. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Okay. I got you. All right. A.J. Dillon is up 11 spots. I'm going to go right back to Jamie on this one because you've been banging the drum for A.J. Dillon.
Starting point is 00:38:47 He's now RB 26th, 69th overall on CBS, 51st overall on FF Calculator, on Fantasy Football Calculator, 58th overall on CBS 51st overall on FF calculator on fantasy football calculator 58th overall so we're talking about late round five for AJ Dillon and you know are anywhere from RB 22 to RB 26 what do you think about that I would draft AJ Dillon over Ezekiel Elliott right now um I think there is an opportunity here it's twofold for me with, with Dylan in that regard, in that comparison. But I do think that he's going to, it might be by one, but he's going to lead the Packers and carries. I think he's going to lead the Packers and rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I think it's going to be very close in terms of rushing yards. Obviously Aaron Jones, his total yards are going to be better than AJ Dylan and his catches are going to be significantly better. Both stay healthy, but in the event that Aaron Jones gets hurt, AJ Dylan will be better than A.J. Dillon, and his catches are going to be significantly better if both stay healthy. But in the event that Aaron Jones gets hurt, A.J. Dillon will be a top-five running back.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I think you're just going to see his role in the pass game. He made four games last year with at least four catches. He averaged over 15 PPR points in those games, and that wasn't totally all with Aaron Jones not playing. And so I've said this a billion times. Rank the skilled players for the Packers. Aaron Jones is one. A.J. Dillon is two. And so I think we're going to see a little bit more of a run-heavy approach for the Packers this year. Not that they're not going to throw and certainly throw in the red zone, but I think
Starting point is 00:39:51 A.J. Dillon has A, the ability to be successful without an injury and could be an absolute monster if Jones misses any time. He can catch too. I don't know if people really remember the games that he played in without Aaron Jones. He was getting targets. And they like his receiving ability. I view A.J. Dillon as the gatekeeper to the dead zone. So I don't even want to say he's a bridge running back to the dead zone. But I think he's the last running back you can draft with really good confidence before you get to Zeke, Jacobs, and the rest.
Starting point is 00:40:24 What about Brees Hall and Travis Etienne versus A.J. Dillon? I got those guys higher because of upside. I honestly was torn with Dillon versus... I would take Dillon over Etienne in non-PPR. I was torn with Dillon over Hall because I think, just again, that lottery ticket upside. But I'm not going to be that stupid and not think Hall has that potential as well. So I'll all over Dylan.
Starting point is 00:40:54 All right, Heath. Kenneth Gainwell. This one, I don't know, man. No, I get it. It's because Miles Sanders is hurt. Kenneth Gainwell is up 14 spots. The question is, Kenneth Gainwell on all three websites, CBS Sports, Fantasy Football Calculator,
Starting point is 00:41:11 NFC over the past week, is in the round 10-ish range, somewhere between 113th to 126th overall. That's his ADP for Gainwell. Should Boston Scott also be on the rise? know how much better is gainwell than boston scott as a backup option to mile sanders for fantasy purposes i mean he might not be any better at all but i think he has a bigger role if mile sanders is playing the part-time role as the uh sometimes healthy lead back of the eagles um but this is right about where i have
Starting point is 00:41:41 gainwell like moving 14 spots when you're in round 10 or 11 is not a huge leap. I think this is a combination of the report maybe that came out that said Gainwell is going to do more on short yardage and in passing downs and also the fact that Miles Sanders hasn't done anything for like two and a half weeks or at least hasn't fully participated in a practice. This makes sense. He really belongs right in this range. All right, and Dave, I want to talk about two receivers
Starting point is 00:42:09 who have risen to about the same area, and they are behind guys like Devontae Smith, Elijah Moore, Amandra St. Brown, DeAndre Hopkins. It's Christian Kirk, who's up 14 spots, and George Pickens, who's up 11 spots, and actually three, and Brandon Iuke. So Kirk Pickens, Iuke,
Starting point is 00:42:30 these are all around wide receiver 40. And, you know, we're talking about getting them as, as number four wide receivers, Kirk Pickens, Iuke, how would you rank them?
Starting point is 00:42:40 I would rank them Kirk Iuke Pickens, because let's be real, Pickens is still a candidate to be third on the team in targets in Pittsburgh. I know that we want to say second, and I know that he was exciting in that first preseason game, but I can't buy into him on the same level as Christian Kirk and Brandon Ayuk. And honestly, I think Kirk might be on his own level compared to Brandon Ayuk. Ayuk is good.
Starting point is 00:43:05 He definitely looks, this is going to sound weird, but more engaged and a little more diverse in his route running based on what I've saw in the preseason game against Houston. The concerns about Trey Lance and his accuracy, that dings him a little bit. How pass heavy will San Francisco be? That dings him a little bit. I think Jacksonville is going to be very pass heavy. I think that they're going to end up throwing a lot. I think Kirk's the number one target and he's, I think he, I think he, I don't think Kirk's
Starting point is 00:43:34 going to have like an all-star type year, but I think he'll have a lot of 13 PPR point games. And maybe that even settles in as close to a floor for him better than what he was in arizona because the opportunity is better than what he had in arizona and he's around seven pick for me in full ppr yeah and you can get it much later than that round 10 round nine and yes and for kirk would you guys take kirk over amari cooper davante sm, Elijah Moore, Amonra St. Brown. Those guys. Not one of them.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I'll take them. St. Brown, Kirk, Moore for me. So I have a rank. I would only take him ahead of Devante Smith. Okay. And they're back-to-back for me, but I think Smith's a little better. I think we did a profile on him. Jacob Gibbs did the profile.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I hosted that. And I think the case was that Christian Kirk was pretty much held back by Larry Fitzgerald because he couldn't play the slot. Yeah, early on. And when he finally got to be a slot guy, his efficiency shot up. And they're going to use him in the slot in Jacksonville. And it's going to unlock something in Christian Kirk, basically. Cole Komet is up 29 spots.
Starting point is 00:44:51 He's still tight end 14. He's behind three guys who all have those red down arrows next to them. So I could see Komet jumping all of them. Mike Gasicki, Pat Friarmuth, and Hunter Henry. Why are people still drafting Gasicki? They're not really. I think he's going to plummet. But if he gets traded, it'll be great.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah, maybe. It depends on where he goes. Even if he's in this new, different role, there's no reason he can't be a high-end tight end too still. Sure. Messy Waddle's hurt. Yeah. I don't know that he should fall too much more i'd still
Starting point is 00:45:27 heath would you take commit the riser over gosicki frown youth and hunter henry i have had him ahead of those three since uh march so yes i would definitely take commit over those guys i would take him at over zach earth at this point
Starting point is 00:45:43 same ppr i by the way stay to you would whoa that's i'm sorry yes i glossed over that it's actually become a pretty easy call it is yes well i mean i do that uh you know it's well first off earth is banged up i don't know what's going on there um second of all, once we get to week seven, where is the target? Yes. I guess after week seven, I think Kemet should
Starting point is 00:46:13 have more targets than Zach Ertz, but I think that Ertz has a better quarterback. And those first six weeks are really important. Sure. But in the first six weeks are really important. You know? Sure.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I mean, but in the first six weeks, Kmet might have more targets also. He might. He certainly looked good in that one drive in the second preseason game. I'm not even being sarcastic. He really did. He saw a little potential there.
Starting point is 00:46:39 But you don't want that to be the reason. There was blown coverage on the bigger play. There was like a 19-yard play where the Seahawks messed up covering him. My point is I don't want that to be the reason why he's rising. That's just all I wanted to say. No, like I said, it's all those factors. Ertz banged up. Ertz a little older.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Increased weapons for the Cardinals once we get past the first quarter of the season. I just think Komet, you know, we've, we've illustrated this time and time again, his target opportunities on this team are going to be very, very opportunistic and he should take advantage of it. When Hopkins was healthy with Ertz last year, Ertz's target share was under 15%. Not a lot of time though, right?
Starting point is 00:47:21 No, because Hopkins was gone. Right. Right. When Hopkins got hurt, Ertz became a thing. So you can draft, here's how you look at it. You can draft Zach Ertz to be your tight end one
Starting point is 00:47:31 to begin the season, or you can draft Cole Komet to potentially be your tight end one all season long in PPR. It's an easy choice. All right, let's talk about some ADP followers. Listen,
Starting point is 00:47:43 we're shows wrapping up, you know, in a little bit, but stay tuned. After the followers, I have some Podcast League entries that I want to read and or play for you. So that's going to be some fun, interactive stuff for you. We have a Pearl Jam cover.
Starting point is 00:47:56 It's time. Oh, not that. Sorry. We have... What's that? Why can't I hit that? We have a Pearl Jam cover, I promise. That's coming up. So, ADP Fallers.
Starting point is 00:48:10 George Kittle is down nine spots. He's still tight end four. He's tight end four, 48th overall now. Waller's probably someone who's going to fall too with the injury tag. But, you know, who's getting nervous about Kittle even in round five? Is George Kittle around six pick at this point?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Heath? Yep. Oh, Heath. Let me go. Sorry. Let me go with Heath. Yeah, I've got and I may have Waller joining him, but I've got Kittle, Goddard and Schultz basically back to back to back in round six. I think I'll probably actually have Goddard ahead of Kittle by the time we get to tomorrow morning because I've wanted to do it for a while now anyway.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I think it's fear over Trey Lance. It's fear over the connection that Trey Lance has with Brandon Ayuk. And like Dave made reference to George Pickens being third, Brandon Ayuk might be third too. George Kittle and Debo Samuel is pretty stiff competition, Kittle might be third behind Iuke and Samuel it's it's um kind of up in the air and third in an offense that could throw 500 passes like the Eagles did last year is a real problem yeah do you know why he might be third because Trey Lance throws downfield all the time. It's a little bit of trail.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's a lot of Trey Lance because it's not just Trey Lance throwing downfield or Trey Lance being inaccurate or Trey Lance running with the football. That offensive line's got some issues and they're going to need George Kittle to help block. And he's already been doing a lot of that over the course of his career. And he's still put up great numbers, but I'm squeamish that he might have to keep that blocking up. And with the inefficiencies that could come with the passing game, I've already made the move.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I've got Goddard ahead of Kittle. So that's the thing. Like, I wonder that thing you said about Kittle, which I think could be true. I've been wondering the last couple of days, is that now more true with Dalton Schultz because of the Tyron Smith injury? Could be possible.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Well, we know Kittle is a great blocker. You know, what about Schultz? I don't think that's his. Not at that level. No, no, no. No, no, not at that. But, you know, I don't think he's really much of a blocker, is he? No, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:50:20 So I don't want to say yes or no to that question. But I would counter it with another question. Can the Cowboys afford to have Dalton Schultz as a blocker on passing plays? What are they left with? If it means that Jack Scott upright, they'll use anybody they have to block. Well, they might use a second tight end for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you got CeeDee Lamb, are they really going to lean on Tolbert
Starting point is 00:50:41 and Simi Fajoko or whoever else until Gal's back in Pollard. I think they need Schultz in the passing game. All right. So let me just finish up with the followers here. Let's go quick. Dak Prescott is down. He's a follower. Hey, real quick.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Can you give me a second to go see how Dalton Schultz did with and without Tyron Smith last year? Go for it. Yeah. Report back. Dak Prescott. Should he be behind Matthew Stafford and Aaron Rodgers? They have basically the same ADP on CBS.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Should be ahead of them. Yes. Yeah. And I would say that on CBS, Tom Brady is ahead of Dak Prescott. But on Fantasy Football Calculator and NFC over the past week, Dak Prescott is being drafted ahead of Tom Brady, so that really surprises me. I mean, that could be because of the whole Massinger absence crap.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Maybe. Let's see. Skymore and Chris Olave, I wanted to talk about them. At what point do they become good values? Right now, they're around 11 picks. They're after pick 120. Jamie, Sky Moore and Chris Olave are fallers. And yeah, I would say they're around 11 picks basically.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Is that good or does it need to be even later? It's amazing for Olave because there is a big opportunity for him if Michael Thomas is not there because he's so talented and has an opportunity to maybe be first in targets on the Saints without Thomas playing, second on the team in targets with Thomas there. Obviously, you have to factor in Jarvis Landry, but we just haven't heard a lot of buzz from Olave
Starting point is 00:52:19 aside from the one touchdown catch that he had. I think part of that also could be tied to Jameis Winston not being 100%, but I said this, I think, yesterday that Pete Prisco is in New Orleans. He's raving about just this receiving core in general, how they have more weapons than ever before, and then how Jameis can have a big opportunity in front of him because of these targets that he has. So Olave, if he falls, is great.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And really the same thing for Sky Moore. I would certainly take Olave over Moore. Moore, though, again, is Juju 100%. We just don't know. Is MBS's concussion going to be a problem? We don't know. Is he more talented than those two guys? He might be.
Starting point is 00:52:52 So, you know, Sky Moore falling is somebody worth buying also. You know, you just have to understand what you're getting. You're getting a guy that may be buried on the depth chart for the entire season or may prove that he needs to be on the field. And if that's the case, being tied to Patrick Mahomes, not literally, is good for him. Heath, talk to me about, real quick,
Starting point is 00:53:12 the preseason games last night and specifically Isaiah Pacheco. And if you want to talk about Davis Mills, my God, he has been just dreadful the last two games. No Laramie Tunsil, their left tackle. No Brandon Cooks. But anyway, Pacheco
Starting point is 00:53:28 for the Chiefs, Davis Mills, and specifically what that means for Brandon Cooks. Yeah, I don't want to evaluate Davis Mills when he's playing without his full starting offensive line, when he's playing without his only
Starting point is 00:53:44 proven NFL wide receiver, I just don't think that's fair. I think the worst case scenario is he doesn't improve on what he was last year. And even then, where I'm taking Brandon Cooks is too early, but where everybody else is taking Brandon Cooks is still a good deal. Okay. Hacheco? I did not see anything that really changed my opinion. I think
Starting point is 00:54:07 Clyde is the clear number one. Pacheco is in the driver's seat for the number two, but McKinnon might play more than him if there's no Clyde entry because McKinnon's going to do some of the third down stuff. McKinnon's going to do a lot of the third down stuff based on the preseason. If that carries over,
Starting point is 00:54:24 I mean, he is their third down back, which is not great for Clyde. Would you guys rather have Damian Pierce or Clyde Edwards-Ziller? Or I'll throw in another one who played last night. Well, he didn't play last night. Elijah Mitchell. How would you rank Pierce, Mitchell, CEH? Pierce, CEH, Mitchell. CEH, Pierce, Mitchell. How would you rank Pierce, Mitchell, C-E-H? Pierce, C-E-H, Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:54:46 C-E-H, Pierce, Mitchell. C-E-H, Mitchell, Pierce. Dave will not jump on the Damien Pierce train. They're very close. I haven't watched the Chiefs preseason game.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And look, I'm not a huge fan of Clyde anymore. Oh, Pacheco's fast. Pacheco feels like he could be a threat. He could be better than Clyde. Is that crazy? He did not have a good college career. His yards per carry is shockingly low. That team was awful. I know, but that's
Starting point is 00:55:18 so bad. I mean, you don't see... It was in the fours, right? You just don't see that a lot from good NFL running backs. He's explosive. He's very fast. He is. He's got great balance.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Took a hit on a catch and kept going in the first preseason game. I wouldn't reach for him. You don't want to be in a position where you take him too soon. So don't Pacheco self before you wreck yourself. I think the Chiefs and Raiders situation is very similar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, right. Dave said Pacheco self before you wreck yourself.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Oh, it was good. Yeah, I liked it. It was very good. Sorry, Dave. Pacheco mate. All right, let's listen to... Do you want the Schultz stats? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Go ahead. Without Tyron Smith the last two years, target share 17.5%, targets per route run 16.7%, yards per route run 1.15%, explosive play rate 8.3%. With Tyron Smith, target share 19%, targets per route run 19. 19% targets per route run,
Starting point is 00:56:25 19.1% yards per route run, 1.57% explosive play rate, 15.3%. This dude needs Tyron. I bet they all have those types of splits. I shouldn't say that. I wonder if they all have those types of splits. I wonder if Dak Prescott has those types of splits.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So just to summarize, players need good left tackle. It's pretty extreme, though. I mean, these are pretty extreme. It makes you think that maybe we should be downgrading all of them. Yes, we are. I think that's where we're headed here. Honestly, not. I'm not downgrading Dalton Schultz.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I'm taking him exactly. I'm taking him in round six. Yeah, but I mean, don't pop him up. I think you've got to consider Schultz versus Goddard now. I've had Goddard ahead, but yes, I think everyone else should. Yeah, and I haven't. It's an open question. I think Schultz would be maybe even in the Hawkinson range.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I don't know. He also could catch 100 passes in the offense. Yeah, all right. He could. Dak's got to get them all out. All right. So I read every podcast league entry, and I thank you all. I obviously did not respond to all of them, but I read them all.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And a sincere thank you to everyone for all the stories you've shared. I think you should give everybody feedback that you didn't choose and let them know what they could do do differently next year there's nothing they can do differently they could they could there could be fewer entries that was the problem though i hate this exercise because i leave out so many people that i want to put in leagues and i can't have 15 podcast leagues but i do want to thank everyone for their entries so i just want to read a few that stood out o'neillill said, I also love that Adam speeds you guys up because he has so many important things to talk about
Starting point is 00:58:07 and then he will spend 20 minutes on his favorite chocolate. I don't know about chocolate, but I get that criticism. I get it. Brock wrote us a haiku. Dave and Heath are cool. Eisenberg and Azar rule.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Urban is a tool. I like that. I got to give a shout out to Urban Meyer, by the way. I got to give a shout out to Luis Gregoriz. That was for Rafael. That's a personal thing.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Rafael knows what we're doing there. We got some videos to show. We have Ryan, who has a very nice trophy. And look at this just brazen display of his fantasy football trophy. Pick me. I love it, man.
Starting point is 00:58:58 That's cool. Let's play Yannick. Yannick is actually in the podcast league. Let's take a look at his submission. And he is a fantasy hockey player. He lives in Canada. Let's take a look at Yannick's entry. So I guess we'll make this a little easy on me.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I got my dog to play a goalie. If I can score a goal against her, I'm in. All right? What the hell? Give me that back. It's fast. Golly. You go back.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Okay, okay. This time. That's pretty cool. For those of you who obviously can of you obviously the dog is in the dog uh saved made two saves with his mouth on a foam puck uh the video went on a little longer but i i don't think he scored but that was very the dog is in the league yeah yannick and the dog are in the league and then uh if you remember our can't find a better male host joke chris made a parody of that so the lyrics are a little bit hard to hear but it's you'll you'll hear it it's time to damn i keep hitting that stupid button here we go
Starting point is 01:00:10 sorry chris Taking out those engine games Let's laser stat that talking Arguing Best ways back when dragging We kept extremes on time It's seamless All we need to do is like Leave a comment, please subscribe
Starting point is 01:00:49 He flies and says that he's not that man Can't find a better man Daydreams of coveting, running back there Can't find a better man to hold He flies and says that he's not that bad Can't find a better man to hold Daydreams of coveting, running back there Can't find a better man to hold
Starting point is 01:01:24 Can't find a better host. Can't find a better host. Can't find a better host. I agree. All right. Thank you very much to Chris and all of you for your entries. I think this is the end. That guy can't find better recording equipment. That's pretty good. The audio is a little low on the lyrics. He started to come through in the second half of the song. Is it like... He sounds a little like Eddie Vedder. Yeah, you know, he's got that grungy sound. What did he say?
Starting point is 01:01:57 Looking back at days of Shaggy B, keeping the streams on time. Yeah, it was pretty funny. All right. That's it. I think that's going to end our show. I wanted to get to Dave's report from Eagles Dolphins. Want to give me 30 seconds?
Starting point is 01:02:11 I'm sorry about that. All right. Sorry. Read it on the website. Yep. There you go. All right. We got a mailbag and salary cap talk coming up for you.
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