Fantasy Football Today - ADP Risers & Fallers; ADP on Other Sites (08/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

Bid on our Draft-A-Thon items right now to benefit St. Jude! http://cbssports.com/ebay Join our poker tournament to benefit St. Jude! stjude.org/draftathon Our biggest ADP riser is Logan Thomas (2:00)! Should he be the seventh TE off the board? Our biggest ADP faller is Trevor Lawrence (5:30)! Is he just an upside play at this point? We've also got the latest news and notes (10:40) on the Patriots QBs plus the Eagles and Jets RBs ... Find out how to get into our poker tournament for charity (18:00)! And we've got more ADP risers (21:30) including Mike Evans and Cooper Kupp. Mike Davis is a riser (27:05) as he gets closer to Round 4. Where should Darrell Henderson (30:00) and Damien Harris (31:30) be drafted now? We also discuss James Conner, Irv Smith and Jamaal Williams ... Rankings fallers (42:00) include D'Andre Swift, Ja'Marr Chase and Jared Cook. Are these drops justified? And Heath gives you the best and worst ADP values (50:00) on ESPN and Yahoo! ... Email us at [e-mail]  'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Mike Evans is on the rise in average draft position. DeAndre Swift moving down. Mark Andrews moving down six spots in the latest ADP. What's that all about? Plus big moves in ADP for Logan Thomas, for Trevor Lawrence. We will talk about that on today's show.

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Monday night, 8 p.m. All right, the biggest ADP riser that we haven't talked about lately. OK, I'm not going to make this another James Robinson segment. The biggest ADP riser that we haven't talked about lately is Logan Thomas. Dave did talk about him. I don't remember what show it was on, but he said that Thomas is his tight end seven now. But he is now up 24 spots to one hundred and third overall. Same ADP as Tyler Higbee. So they're tied as tight end nine, tight end 10.

Behind Noah Fant, behind Dallas Goddard, ahead of Robert Tunyon, ahead of Irv Smith. Jamie, do you get it? Do you understand why Logan Thomas is now moving up to around pick 100? Yeah, he's my number seven tight end in PPR as well. You just look at that group of guys and Fant, Smith, Higby, I'm trying to think of the other guys that are in that range, Gusecki, Thomas, those are great.

Is Goddard still there for you, by the way? Goddard, no. It's hard to trust him while Ertz is there. You look at the way Fitzpatrick has looked for him in the preseason. The training camp reports have been positive. Curtis Samuel's not been on the field. So, you know, Thomas could easily be the second best pass catcher in this offense.

And, you know, we saw Fitzpatrick do some nice things with Mike Gusecki over the last couple years as well. So it's a messy group, but, you know, you have at least a strong finish thomas last year and and a guy who uh maybe just you know took a little while to come into his own at the position so um i'll buy in for sure anybody not buying in i struggle with it um just because so much of his success last year was volume driven you know he wasn't particularly efficient. 65% catch rate on a relatively low A dot isn't great. 10 yards per target or 9.3 yards per reception. Excuse me.

And they threw the ball 601 times. I don't think they're going to have that much volume this season, especially if the defense takes that step forward. But he is my tight end eight. I don't necessarily have a problem with him moving up. Who'd you say was directly ahead of him? He was way too low.

Directly ahead of him was still Fant and Goddard. Fant should be ahead of him, but he should be ahead of Goddard at this point. And I think he's a little ahead of... I think there's a little distance between him and Higby for me, too. All right. Do we think that... It's funny to ask this about Logan Thomas

since he was a top five tight end last year, but do we think he has, you know, in a good year, top five upside, or is he kind of more of a safe fallback option? I think he has... I don't... In a good year is pretty relative because there's been a lot of years where the number five tight end at the end of the year was just pretty close to number eight or nine so i think he definitely has top five upside yeah um

but i don't think he has like if if mark andrews has a regular mark andrews year i don't think logan thomas probably has the upside to be better than Mark Andrews. I know you guys did the League Winners pod earlier this week. I wrote about that for the FFT newsletter today. I kind of set the bar for a league winner or difference

maker, whatever you want to call it, at 15 points per game for tight end. I think it would be really hard for him to get there. There's only five tight ends. I think it would be really hard for him to get there. But there's only like five tight ends who I think might have the chance to get there anyway. Maybe six. Okay.

Like everyone else on Washington, it would be better if JD McKissick would just go away. Okay. How about the biggest ADP faller that we haven't talked about lately? At least not in depth. Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence is down 15 spots.

He's QB 14. I think he was ahead of Burrow earlier. Now he's behind Joe Burrow. He's still a pretty good distance before Kirk Cousins at QB 15. But I'll go to you again, Jamie, first. QB 14 now for Trevor Lawrence, 110th overall. So this is behind Jalen Hurst. This is behind Joe Burrow.

And into that range where people aren't really that excited as a week one starter. You know, Fields and Lance are a different story. But where do you think Trevor Lawrence belongs? I think you get past the starting group and then you get to the three rookies. And, you know, you're looking for upside. You know, so we've had a lot of these conversations

on the show on HQ about, you know, what do you do in a one quarterback league versus a two quarterback league? Because in a two quarterback league, it's hard to trust, let's say, Lance and Fields because you don't know when exactly they're going to start. You know, you want to draft those guys as high upside type of, you know, number three quarterbacks more so than number two quarterbacks because you're banking on potential, but you can't bank on them to help you in week one. With Lawrence, you know, he's going to start week one,

but does he look more like he's looked in the preseason, or does he look more like the guy at Clemson? And, you know, again, he played the last game against the Saints without three-fifths of his offensive line. He's been playing without DJ Chark. Marvin Jones is banged up, you know, with the shoulder injury. So I think you just have to hope that, you know, all of these things come together for him,

and factoring he doesn't have Travis Etienne as well well that all these things come together for him come week one and he looks fantastic now the thing i think is going to be misleading about trevor lawrence is he's probably going to go undrafted in some shallower leagues he's probably going to be a guy that you know is uh you're not expecting much from and he's going to look great in week one against the texans and so you're going to get people that are probably a little overreacting uh do some overreacting with trevor lawrence um he's not going to be justin herbert at least i don't expect that to happen because that was just such a phenomenal rookie season but he could be similar to joe burrow where there'll be some very good moments and maybe a lot of volume because of how they're chasing

points and so he could be a borderline starter by the end of the season so i think he's he's well within the range of where he should go one of the first backup quarterbacks to come off the board uh better in in one quarterback i'm sorry better in in the one quarterback two quarterback leagues you know overall than the other two rookies just because he's gonna play right away and i think like one other thing when you look at cbsP, amongst the top 16 or 17 quarterbacks, Matthew Stafford is the only ADP riser, and he's up one spot. All of them, except for Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, and Kyler Murray, are falling. Yeah, but Lawrence was obviously falling farther. But I did notice that.

And we love that, right? We love all those down arrows next to the quarterbacks. That's the way it should be i think um andrew luck's rookie season might be a pretty decent um expectation i don't think lawrence is going to throw the ball 630 times but uh you know luck averaged 20 20.7 people points per game and a six point per passing touchdown league. That was with 18 touchdowns and not being as effective as a runner as he was later on in his career. That's an

underrated thing about Lawrence's game is his athleticism. I do think if you end up with him as your starter and you waited, I think he'll be fine. Andrew Luck was QB... Let me just double check here i think he was qb eight no qb 10 as a rookie at 20 2012 okay so that was 2011 was the historic season for

quarterbacks where everybody was great just like last year qb 10 for for luck qb 11 per game. We will take that. Okay, so those are some of the biggest ranked ADP risers and fallers. Now I'm going to tell you about our poker tournament. All right, so listen. This is awesome. It's 300. We got 300 spots available. It's the same night as the Podcast League draft.

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I mean, a lot of raving about how good Mac Jones looked here. So, guys, if you were drafting today, would you draft Cam Newton or Mac Jones or neither or both? Heath, what would you do? It's Cam Newton if you're drafting one of them. I mean, if it's a one quarterback league, it's quite possible neither of them is drafted. But if Cam Newton starts, there's a lot more hope that he is a top 12 fantasy quarterback than there is for mac jones because we don't really expect mac jones to do much with his legs and i still think this will be even with mac jones wins the job a pretty run heavy offense

so if i'm drafting one it's cam newton it's a good good timing here because a tweet that just crossed my timeline quote today wasn't as good. I can just control my effort every day. Mac Jones acknowledged his struggles during Thursday's practice. Apparently Thursday wasn't quite as good. That quote sounds kind of like Daniel Jones the previous day. I think there might have been an interception on his first two passes of the day today.

I think that's what I saw. Giants DST. There's a joint practice, everybody, between the two teams. It does seem like the way the Patriots were approaching this is they're going to start Cam Newton unless he gives them a reason not to.

I don't know if this COVID thing was enough of a reason, but that's kind of... It's either Newton or nobody in a one Qb league for me bill belichick said today that newton didn't break any team rules so i don't yes i don't know what to make all that either all right uh more news items here kenneth gainwell has been working in the philadelphia two-minute drill so jamie that's more bad news is that more bad news you take this

seriously for miles sanders well adam the clock is ticking on Miles Sanders. It's tough to trust him as a high-end number two running back. I think where he's going is probably even a little too high in the fourth-round range. It's not just going to be the passing downs work or the hurry-up offense that they're going to use Gane Mullen. We're going to see Boston Scott work then. they're going to use gain mullin we're going to see boston scott worked in we're going to see maybe jordan howard worked in um i don't think

they're uh tied to saying miles sanders is our featured guy and jalen hirsch you know is going to run a little bit too so um i think you settle for sanders you don't target sanders you know so depending on how you build your team uh if i get him around five i'd be thrilled about that but round four is is probably something to stay away from gain Gainwell is probably a poor man's version of James White and Giovanni Bernard and JD McKissick and those pass-catching running backs that we like in PPR. Would you guys rather have Miles Sanders or Daryl

Henderson? Sanders. Man, it's close. Do we think that Sonny Michel really might be the best back there if they're both healthy? Does anybody think that? I don't, but I see a lot of people that do. Do we think that Sonny Michel really might be the best back there, if they're both healthy? Does anybody think that with the Rams? I don't, but I see a lot of people that do. I think it's possible.

I don't think it's very likely. I think it's more likely that Sonny Michel is the best back than it is that Kenneth Gainwell or Boston Scott is the best back. Yeah. I think it's a situation where Henderson gets hurt, and Michel comes in and takes over, and then doesn't lose the job. Yeah, I mean, a lot of what the Rams have told us through their actions since drafting Daryl Henderson tells us that they don't really like him all that much. I feel like, yeah, going going and getting Cam Akers literally the next year, you know, barely him even before cam acres or not barely using him he was you know kind of a lead back but never giving him lead back treatment even before cam

acres broke out i just they seem pretty frustrated with the injuries too so i think there's a chance sony michelle is the the best running back there all right connor hughes of the athletic expects the jets to use three running backs tevin coleman ty johnson and michael carter that's what they've been doing in the preseason sucks and even the michael pirine sounds like he's going to be the goal line back he got hurt so we'll see how healthy oh okay i didn't see that yeah but but this is again we think that carter can eventually rise right here, here? The question is, I don't really believe that Carter can rise into a workhorse role, no. I don't think they want that, and he's never done it. Okay.

Well, they should want it. They should want it. He could rise into that role knowing that Tevin Coleman's injury history is what it is, and Ty Johnson, I think, is just a guy. Now, they both have to probably be absent for that to happen. You know, I don't think he's going to, you know, to your point, I don't think he's going to kick those guys off the field completely if they're all healthy. But again, you know, like the Ram situation, if one of the two of them get hurt,

Carter is the more talented of the three right now. You know, Coleman, I think, has lost a step because of the injuries. Ty Johnson, I don't know exactly where his ceiling is, but I don't think it's as high as Michael Carter's. And you have to rely on the people who know this as well as anybody. Emory Hunt said this was his favorite running back coming into the draft. So Michael Carter, I still think, has a world of talent in front of him and hopefully a world of opportunity also.

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They have the same ADP, about 48th overall. This is all on CBS. Mike Evans is up 10 spots. Cooper Cup is up five or six spots. But I thought that was interesting that Mike Evans is a riser. I don't know that there's necessarily a rhyme or reason for it. But would you guys be happy with Evans and Cup at the end of round four in a 12-team league, 48th overall? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I think format matters. So both these guys, I think, are slightly better in non-PPR than PPR. Cup is probably the same in both formats. Evans is, you know, the touchdowns are going to be so huge for him. The only thing I don't like is some of the receivers going behind Mike Evans, you know, based on the ADP. I think Cup's in, you know, fine range, you know,

right after his teammate in Robert Woods. You know, you can argue Cooper Cup versus Amari Cooper, but Evans going ahead of Lockett, I'd rather block it. He's going ahead of Godwin. I think Godwin's better. I'll take DJ more for sure sure in ppr you know so um i like devins better around five you know even though he's towing the line but uh you know i think what happens in drafts um is you get panicked a little bit especially doing drafts with non

fantasy analysts uh a few times over the last week or so and they go with names that they know and obviously mike evans has been productive and is a name most fantasy managers are well aware of. Yeah, wide receiver 16 is a little pricey. I was going to say, I like Cup at the end of round three. I don't really like Evans until the end of round five. This is right in the middle. But I was just doing work for Adam. And this is the best value you're going to find for Mike Evans. He has a round three ADP

in both ESPN and Yahoo. So yeah, maybe it's just rising to meet everyone else, but it's a little bit higher than I want to take Evans. But this is something I see a lot of when I share teams too. People see Robert Woods or Tyler Lockett on my team and they really don't like it. But I asked them if it said Mike Evans as the number two wide receiver and they say they would love it. So I think it's just that we are lower on Evans relative to these other wide receivers. What do you make of, I always talk about the last seven regular season, well, the first seven games with Antonio Brown, right? That was when all three of them were healthy. In the eighth regular season game, Mike Evans left with an injury.

In those seven games, Evans was by far the best, and he was number five in non-PPR, number seven PPR overall at wide receiver. He was on pace for 85 catches, 1,342 yards, 14 touchdowns on 135 targets. It's so weird because that that's the most favorable split for Evans before Antonio Brown. When Chris Godwin played Evans at three targets per game.

And then in the playoffs, yeah, in the playoffs, Godwin had the most targets. So that's why I think you, you've got to include the playoffs. Yeah. In the playoffs, Godwin had the most targets. Yeah, that's why I think you've got to include the playoffs there. Like any game that they all played,

given that the sample size is so small in the regular season, you've got to include the playoffs. Was he healthy? That's the only thing. Was he healthy? Because remember, he leaves week 17.

They didn't have a bye. You know, was he healthy early in the season when he was struggling? Because remember, he had that hamstring issue that cropped up several times early on.

So it's like, you can do that either way, but at some point you're chopping these sample sizes up too small to really get anything meaningful from them. I think you just kind of want to look at it in totality because guess what? There's probably going to be a stretch this season where Mike Evans is playing through something. You go to what Tom Brady said, that they didn't really start to feel comfortable with the offense till

the end of the year and you know how much of that carries over to the offseason to the start of this year the thing that i i fear about downgrading the bucks guys is the narrative which i think is a pretty strong one of brady wanting to break the passing record in foxborough and he needs to average what it's like 300 something yards per game I should probably know that number because I keep referencing it but he needs to average whatever it is going into that game to to break Breeze's record which knowing Tom Brady as as well as I think we do he can something I think he's going to want to do you know to have that moment and so who's going to benefit is it going to be one guy standing out significantly above the rest, or is it going to be all of them benefiting across the board?

And there are a lot of mouths to feed in this offense. So I think there could be some pretty significant numbers and performances early in the season. Will Evans be the one that benefits from that the most? Maybe. But I think, again, the cost here on our site is fantastic when you compare it to where you're getting him in other places. All right.

Tom Brady has 79,204 yards. Drew Brees has 80,358 yards. So what week is he playing the Patriots? Is it their fourth game or their third? I think it's the fourth. Oh, well, that won't be a problem then. So what, it was like 1,100 yards or so? So, yeah, I mean, if he's throwing for 280,

what do we got? How much does he need? Anybody do this math? Chris, I felt like you were doing the math. Oh, no, I wasn't. I was looking for something else entirely. I was waiting for you to do it. Well, I mean, I'm saying...

Well, you were actively doing the math. Why would I double-check? About 1,100 yards that he needs. And the Patriots game is the fourth game of the year, so I don't think he needs... He doesn't actually have to go off. And he's got Dallas and Atlanta to start? No.

Who does he have? All right. This is a great segment. Robert Roethlisberger is going to pass Dan Marino this season. Let's go to Mike Davis. Up five spots to 51st overall. Well, the guy right in front of Mike Davis is Travis Etienne. I would rather have Davis at this point. But you still have Jacobs and Sanders ahead of Davis. You have

Henderson on his heels, but that's hard to know his true ADP. Gaskin behind Mike Davis. Heath, I think it's been a good... He hasn't really played, and it's been a good... He hasn't played, and it's been a good offseason, I guess, or preseason for Mike Davis. I think the biggest thing that a lot of people said in arguing against Mike Davis for the past four months since the draft is, yeah, they didn't draft anybody, but there's so many veterans out there. They're going to bring somebody in. They're going to bring somebody.

And it's still, like, we just saw it with Sonny Michel and Daryl Henderson. It's still possible. He's not out of the woods yet, but I think he's just, people are realizing that currently the second best running back is either

Kadri Olson, who couldn't beat out Brian Hill or Ido Smith the last two years, or Cordero Patterson, who's actually just a returner, or Caleb Huntley, who...

Well... The one thing I would say to that is Mike Davis has a very long history in the NFL of not beating out some pretty crappy running backs, too. Like who? I mean, he's been a starter for 14 games. Well, but in his whole career. He was the backup to Christian McCaffrey.

Right. He was the backup to Christian McCaffrey. He was the backup. No, he got cut by the Bears, didn't he? He wasn't the backup. The second year he got cut. He was originally the backup to Montgomery. I think he was the backup to Christian McCaffrey. No, he got cut by the Bears, didn't he? He wasn't the backup to Tim Montgomery. I think the second year he got cut. He was originally the backup to Montgomery. I think he was kind of the starter.

No, he technically was the starter. I don't think there's any argument that Kadri Olsen or Cordero Patterson might be better than Mike Davis. I think it's entirely possible. All right, so are you taking Mike Davis over Miles Sanders and Josh Jacobs? I'm not yet, but I'm not too far behind it. You are, Jamie? Yeah.

Okay. All right, so listen, I did some math all in my head, not on my phone. Tom Brady needs to average in his first four games, week four is that? Three games. Well, no, but I'm saying what he has to average in the first four. I'm sorry, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, yeah.

So week four is New England. He has to average 288.5 per game to break it in New England. Now, the first two games are against Dallas and Atlanta, so that's about it. The third one's not so easy. That's 800 yards. The Rams is probably 200 yards,

so he'll need about 200 now. All right, yeah, he can do it. He can do it. I think he's going yards. So he'll, he'll need about 200 now. All right. Yeah, he can do it. He can do it. I think he's going to go for 400 against the Patriots. If he, if he really wants to drive,

I think he's going to break it that, that game. Yeah. It's set up nicely for him. All right. Next up, moving up the rankings. So let's just talk about Daryl Henderson.

He's right behind Mike Davis. Where, where should he be right now? Given what we just talked about Jamie with a Sony, Michelle? Where should Henderson be? Right after those guys. I think he has just as much upside as them still, but clearly the ceiling is now capped if Sonny Michel is healthy. So the reason that I loved Henderson was because I didn't really trust the backups behind him as much as they were talking up Xavier Jones. Maybe Jake Funk looked okay. I thought that Henderson, given the opportunity to be a three down back or as close to a three

down back as maybe the Rams have had since Todd Gurley, that this was going to be a fantastic setup for him. And so it's still very well could be, you know, Sonya Michelle's got to pick up the playbook. And if Henderson gets off to a great start, he could, you know, hopefully run away with the job, but Michelle, the, the the whatever the trade value you want to buy into it for because the rams don't really value draft picks um they're bringing in somebody that's got a pedigree and a track record and you know you know people look at michelle last year and say okay play nine games he averaged over five yards per carry nearly six yards per carry you know 5.7 um two consecutive seasons of 900 yards uh the fact that the Patriots were clearly trying to showcase him in a trade

by using him in the passing game in the second preseason game against the Eagles, you know, four catches is not something you see from him on a weekly basis. But I don't think he's going to be a horrible pass catcher if they use him in that role. So it's going to be frustrating for Henderson potentially, but I just hope that his talent shines through and his connection with this team, that he proves to the coaching staff, that they can trust him in this role. Let's go to our next guy here, Damian Harris,

Chris. He's moving up 10 spots now, 82nd overall for Damian Harris, and we'll take a look at the running backs that are around him, and that would be... He's kind of in a world of his own. Raheem Mostert, Javante Williams, they're around 70th overall.

And then you got to wait another round for Damian Harris. Although, so I guess when you look at your, at ADP on our site and you see Damian Harris 82nd overall, but up 10 spots, well, that might mean

he's actually going earlier than that. His current ADP is pulling up his old ADP. So let's say 75th overall or something like that. Do you think that's a decent spot for Damian Harris? I'm not particularly... Like, he's RB30.

I think that's probably a little too early. I just... I don't know. I don't see a lot of upside with Damian Harris. You know, he's had a ton of injury concerns

since getting into the NFL. And I don't know. Like, I guess if Mac Jones is the starter he's got a better chance of scoring touchdowns but I think the offense will be worse he'll be a less efficient runner if Cam Newton's not there so I just like I think there's kind of a lot of weight things working against Harris in a way that like I kind of feel like his ceiling is like RB20 in a best case scenario and i just there are guys going behind him i'd rather take the chance on because i think they have more ways for things to go right i think

the ceiling argument's a lot more true in full ppr sure yes yes this our adp is a complete blend of non-half and full ppr and so that's where we kind of like running back 30 and non-ppr i think is a great value running back 30 and full PPR is right about where I would take Damian Harris. Okay. How about James? I'll buy this all day. I think Damian Harris is set up for a big season.

You know, obviously he's not going to be great in full PPR. So the ceiling is, is correct. You know, maybe he gets to, you know, 17 or 18,

you know, maybe things go his way. He gets a little higher than that, but they, you know, gave you an indication how much they trust him by moving on from a veteran. Obviously, Ramondre Stevenson's performance has helped that as well. But I think you look at this offensive line got dramatically better than what it was a year ago.

And so whichever quarterback is there, they're going to be a run-heavy team. You know, and so this is going to, you know, it's not going to be all cam Newton. So Harris is, is set up for, you know, I, I think a very solid performance and can be in, you know,

it's, it's like the sliding scale of the non-pass catching running backs. Derek Henry is the best. Nick Chubb's probably second best. JK Dobbins, maybe he's the third best. I wouldn't be surprised if Harris is fourth. Okay.

How about James Connor up seven spots? Not third best. I wouldn't be surprised if Harris is fourth. Okay. How about James Conner? Up seven spots. Not really sure. I mean, the one thing is all of the running back ADP, it's just up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. Yeah. So not everyone. Leonard Fournette's moving down a little bit.

Michael Carter moving down a little bit. David Johnson plummeting, and that makes sense. Is there a reason? I don't really see any reason to be more optimistic about James Conner right now than we have been throughout the opposite. Like he's, he was able to play in the most recent game, but he played on one of the three drives with the starters.

He played all three downs on that drive, but he shared the field with chase Edmonds on third down. So I don't know. I'm starting to think chase Edmonds is at least going to get a shot to be a legitimate lead back. Like two out of every three drives, most third downs kind of. And I think I've moved him up to 22 overall at running back now. I'm buying Chase Edmonds.

Let's go. That would be big for me. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You were the James Conner guy. Yes, originally. Like three months ago. You can't be celebrating Chase Edmonds now. Come on.

I've been all about it. I've been pumping up. You can be on board, but you can't be celebrating. Why is that? Because you were pumping the horn. Garbage. That was after. Garbage?

That was during free agency. Garbage? That is garbage. I'm allowed to change my mind. It wasn't last week that I changed my mind. I'm not saying you can't change your mind, but you can't be celebrating Chase Edmonds when you were all in from the beginning. I've been putting my money where my mouth is.

Well, not my actual money. I've been drafting Chase Edmonds. That's fine. I'm just saying you can't celebrate Chase Edmonds. I can celebrate. I absolutely can celebrate. You know what, Jamie? You can't be dancing when Chase Edmonds' name is brought up.

I am in raise-the-roof territory. I have no regrets. No, no, no. I'm fine with it. You can dance if you want to. I will leave Jamie behind. territory. I have no regrets. I'm going to raise the roof and I'm fine with it. You can dance if you want to. I will leave Jamie behind. I will absolutely leave Jamie behind. Jamie can't dance. Jamie doesn't dance.

I'm not going to be held. What did you say? I'm still not sure. I'm not dancing for Chase Edmond shit. No, you should. I was just, I was really dancing for. Usage has worried me more than the James Conner injury

has excited me. Rondell Moore is, DeAndre Hopkins hasn't played. AJ Green hasn't played. I don't know if Rondell Moore is going to be the starter. I don't know for sure either. I think they're going to

scheme him touches though. Yeah. And it's the types of plays that Chase Edmonds, that are good for Chase Edmonds. Yeah, I just, everything I've seen has suggested that Christian Kirk is still the starting slot. But in the preseason, with no Hopkins around,

he's played every snap, I think, outside. So they play more forward receiver than any team in the league. They'll probably do it even more this year now that they don't really have a viable tight end receiver option. So I'm not sure where I'm at on that yet. I am allowed. I make a call on James Connor months

ago. I changed my mind. I am allowed to be excited about Chase Edmonds. Bottom line is, I'm higher on Chase Edmonds than anyone on the show. That gives me the dancing opportunity. Chris just said he had him running back 22. You've got Chase Edmonds higher than running back 22? I don't know. I don't have rankings, but probably. Who do you have ahead of?

You know, I will say this is my first year doing football rankings. It's so much easier to do that when you don't have rankings. You can say everyone's too low on this guy, and you don't have to put your guy out there. My gut is that no, I would not have him at that high. Oh, so you're calling me stupid. Let me see. 22. Oh would not have him at that high. Oh, so you're calling me stupid. Let me see. 22.

Oh, Dave has him at 22. There you go. He'd be right around. I think he'd be like 24. I would probably take... You hate Chase Edmonds. Chase Edmonds. You are no longer the Chase Edmonds guy.

Chase Edmonds sucks, dude. I'm all about James Conner again. All right. Antonio Brown up seven spots to 105th overall. Is he a top 100? Let's go through these quick. Is Antonio Brown a top 100 pick for you? Yes.

Yeah. He might be just outside for me. Would you rather have Antonio Brown or Corey Davis, who's actually one of the biggest risers in the world right now Davis Antonio Brown and yeah Corey Davis should be because he was in like round 15 he's risen 30 spots and I think he's still in round 10 but yeah I

would rather have Antonio Brown I'm just not sure that Davis is going to dominate targets like this in the regular season when Elijah Moore is there and he's actually facing number one corners. Okay, and Herb Smith is up 12 spots to 114th overall. Jamie, where's Herb Smith?

You like Herb Smith. You dance for Herb Smith. Yeah, top 50 overall is where he should go. Again, I think he's going to have a chance to be a significant red zone threat. And I'll continue to say, you know, a bold prediction is he's going to score 10 plus touchdowns. So I like what I saw in the four games that Kyle Rudolph missed last season. I like the way that Kirk Cousins has leaned on his tight ends in the red zone during his time there. You know, the volume concerns are certainly valid, and I don't think he's

going to be as good in PPR as in non-PPR. But I think if he gets to that 10 touchdown threshold, you're looking at a better version of Robert Tunyon. Where is he now? 114th overall, Irv Smith. I hate that. Way too high.

I've got him at 115th overall. One thing I'll Way too high. I've got him 115th overall. One thing I'll say is if you're drafting Irv Smith, you should do so with the at least thought that you might not be able to rely on him all season, but one reason to draft him, it does sound like Tyler Conklin may not be available for at least

week one, if not longer. He's dealing with an upper leg injury. That could help him. Yeah, because Conklin had a very similar amount of targets in those four games without Kyle Rudolph last year. Would you say it's possible that Conklin could nerf Smith's value when he returns? Man, I was supposed to say that at once a show,

and I haven't said it zero times since I learned about nerfing. Are you playing Call of Duty? What's going on? Where did this get added? i don't even remember heath what was it somebody said it i didn't i never heard of it before someone said it adam had never heard it and i explained adam what i do with my teenagers is when i hear a word like that and i really don't enjoy it i just say it all the time until they hate it and then nobody in the house says it yeah that's got to be so frustrating because i know your kid's a big FPS guy and that's like a huge

term. I have ruined many things for him. It's really great. Best part of having kids probably. Okay, Jamie, Jamal Williams is up 15 spots to 117th overall. Given DeAndre Swift's injury situation now, where do you think Jamal

Williams should be going? There's a good range for him. I think you just look at, he was going to always play. You had the, is he the one, the 1A, whatever stupid thing they were saying at the beginning of the training camp. He's not better than DeAndre Swift, but he may be more available than DeAndre Swift.

And the latest report about Swift may not be know, not be up to full strength or, or maybe even miss week one should get you more excited about Jamal Williams. So he's proven at times to be a good fill in, but that was on a much better team. So if you're looking for a, you know, number four running back with, you know,

potential flex opportunity with or without DeAndre Swift on the field, I think he's in that range. And if Swift misses any time, then he's a borderline starter i have like i am the deandre swift lover i am dancing for deandre swift and i have jamal williams 20 spots higher than this where do you have him at running back williams yeah uh i think 34 okay i've got him at 33 so right around the same. Yeah, I'm at 30. I'm at somewhere around there, too. You would have him around 50.

No, you know, I was going to take him in the IDP League. I kept waiting, and he was there for so long. Somebody finally took him, but I just don't think he's very good. But I do see an opportunity for him to be very start-worthy. Not if Swift is healthy, but you've got to be very start worthy. Not, not if Swift is healthy, but you gotta be a little concerned about that. Okay.

ADP fallers. Hey, Deandre Swift. He's down four spots. He's 33rd overall. Swift is behind JK Dobbins. He's still ahead of Chris Carson. Heath,

Chris rather. I'm sorry. What do you think about those rankings of it? It would be Dobbins Swift Carson I think that's the right range I actually would probably have Dobbins last out of that group David Montgomery's right there with them as well and in ADP um I think I would probably have Dobbins last and Swift second out of that group of four. Yeah, I dropped Dobbins

quite a bit just for injury concerns. I've got him all the way down to 30 now and I have him behind Chris Carson. So I think Carson should go ahead. Do you mean Swift or Dobbins? Swift. Okay. Yeah, I've got him quite a ways ahead of Dobbins still in PPR.

I didn't drop Dobbins. I just always had him in the fourth round. Well. Yeah, I'm out on Swift at this price. At 33rd overall? Yeah. That's interesting. He's got a lot of upside.

He had almost 50 catches last year as a rookie. He has a lot of upside. He's on a team that's projected to win five games. He's got more competition for a pass-catching running back than he had a year ago. He's dealing with a groin injury. There's just a lot of red flags for me. I will say the five games thing doesn't bother me as much

because he was so good on a per-touch basis last year on a team that won five games. Yeah. It doesn't bother me if he's involved in the passing game. That's the thing i mean they no i look i i hope he is but you know at at what point does this soft tissue injury become a problem again you know and and teams are just saying okay we're gonna dare jared goff to throw to tj hawkinson and chris heath and adam at wide receiver you know that's basically what this

receiving core looks like um it's just it just feels like a bad setup all across the board. Well, the problem that I think you're going to run into is if you're saying, all right, I'll take Dobbins ahead of him. Okay, fine, I'll take Carson's ahead of him. I'll take James Robinson. You'll take James Robinson ahead of him? I would. Oh, yeah.

So once you get past that, now it's Jacobsbs it's sanders it's gaskin again you're talking about the position which i get yeah so depending how you build your team i'm taking receivers in that range fine fine but if you did want a running back it's i don't know maybe it's hard to get him i would rather personally pass and wait around and get henderson or edmunds or harris edmunds interesting okay just kidding i just i love chase edmunds no he's in that range for me and wait around and get Henderson or Edmonds or Harris. Edmonds. Interesting. Okay.

Just kidding. I love Chase Edmonds. No, he's in that range for me. I mean, you know, Chris has him 22th. I have him 26th. It's not like we're that far off. Mark Andrews down six. You have him 40th, but you're dancing. I like a lot of running backs.

What can I tell you? Yeah, you have James Conner, 39th. 39th, yeah. Mark Andrews down six spots to 53rd overall. I think just people hate Heath. Can you just pull up the list and look at how many down arrows are next to the red injury tag? Because I think that's a correlation.

Oh, okay. Like people see injuries and they get a little nervous. And Mark Andrews was like really scary for like 10 minutes. And if it still says ambulance in the, no, there's no, it doesn't have an injury tag. Oh,

yeah. I don't have an idea. He did for a week. He did. Okay. All right. So that probably explains it, but the tight end,

you know, like Waller's moving up closer to Kittle, which is where he should be. But pits is, you know, like Waller's moving up closer to Kittle, which is where he should be. But Pitts is, you know, around ahead of TJ Hawkinson. That's weird to me. Hawkinson's the one who stands out the most, I think. He does have a little red tag next to him, though. He's injured, yeah.

He's 65th. Pitts and Andrews have basically the same exact adp and jamar chase down five spots to 70th overall yeah well i mean you know first it was can't separate from defenders in practice then it was three drops this is a big week for him because um some positive reports coming out of how he's you know responding to this and the and the drops uh but if joe burrow is going to play in this is a big week for him because some positive reports coming out of how he's, you know,

responding to this and the, and the drops. But if Joe Burrow is going to play in a preseason game and those two guys get a chance to hook up and you get to see what the connection that everybody's buying into, which is what you should be buying into, then you'll be right back on board with Jamar chase, I think,

or at least most people. I can see some potential gas caning for Jamar chase. It's not going to take much for his ADP to shoot back up right yeah i i think the the the one thing i would be worried about is just like they're starting to talk openly about like well we might manage his reps early on in the season as he gets up to speed and you know they they really like odd and tate so there there has been some talk about that that the coaching coaching staff is openly talking about. Not that they're going to bench him, but that he may be like a 65% snap share early on.

But I don't think that's really... Your expectation should be that he's not like a stud from week one. Your expectation should be that, like we've seen with a lot of rookie wide receivers, it might take him a little while to get going. It always does. Except for City Land. Yeah, I mean, there was this same talk with Justin Jefferson during the preseason last

year. Oh, he was not a starter. Oh, BC Johnson was the talk of training camp this time a year ago. Great point. I just think some players are just going to end up being great values if you're just a little bit patient just because you drafted him as one of your first two or three receivers it doesn't mean you have

to start him you know so just take the talent and i i kind of feel the same way about michael carter and i don't i know heath doesn't feel like the way i do because he doesn't see the same upside in terms of carries and total touches, but I still think Michael Carter, you know, if you can get him in the eighth round or something like that because people say, oh, three headed monster, he might be useless for a month, but I definitely could see him being at worst a

flex for much of the rest of the season. There's always the risk that people will drop him there, though. That's always the concern. He was the fourth running back taken this year, but the history of running backs after pick 100 your expectation should be that they don't do anything

as a rookie and very rarely become viable starters um yes sorry I got distracted by something Jamie had a hop off that's what I got distracted by for HQ and we will continue.

The last faller is just... Yeah, makes sense. Jared Cook. I don't know why he's falling, but he's falling. He's down seven spots. He's now just behind Irv Smith at 115th overall. Jared Cook might be someone that, being drafted as a top 12 tight end, we have maybe said 12 words

about Jared Cook over the last few months, I don't even, I would barely be an indictment of us though. Maybe we've seen him like there, if they're installing the saints offense, like the, you know,

it sounds like they are very similar. We've seen very good in this office. I don't care. I don't, if, if they're installing the saints offense and the plan is to throw him four targets per game and he's going to score 10 touchdowns I'm not going to draft him and I'll be wrong again I'm not doing this and I know that I

said this at the beginning of last year there's no way he's going to have 65 targets and score eight touchdowns again and he did it two years in a row I don't buy it also I think that Donald Parham might be the Chargers' best tight end. There's been some talk about that in camp as well. Yeah, and even if Jared Cook plays Heath, that doesn't par him from contributing another weight. I don't know.

I was trying to do a Heath there. Bar him from... Heath, ADP on other websites. What can you tell us? This is something I've been extensively researching over the past week just to get ready for this show we can do this on a different episode if you'd like fifth minute uh no that's what I did the first 15 minutes when I wasn't talking on the podcast yeah yahoo and ESPN um I've I will write about this and it will be on the site

but just a few highlights things I like like, things I don't like. It's too bad Jamie had to leave because on ESPN, I really don't like Saquon Barkley at number six overall. Makes it much easier for me to write about him as a bust when he's number six than when he's number 13 on our site. But he's second round Saquon for me. The other four that I really don't like on ESPN Mike Evans at 33

we'll skip this one Odell Beckham at 63 so early round six and let me just tell you on CBS Odell Beckham is 88th that's where he should be yeah I've got him 103rd and Logan Thomas at 66

I like Logan Thomas I am not going tord. And Logan Thomas at 66. I like Logan Thomas. I am not going to draft him in the sixth round. 66. Where are Hawkinson and Andrews going? Listen, I can't be answering all these questions. I only have the ones that I wrote down during the beginning of the show. Beckham, actually, I just recorded an episode of Fantasy Football today in five. It will air on Sunday

with Jacob Gibbs. We did a Beckham breakdown. It's good stuff there. Is Gibbs more optimistic about Beckham? He would take Beckham in the top 70. He drafts on ESPN. Obviously. Players being drafted after

Odell Beckham on ESPN. How about this run to start round seven? Miles Gaskin at 73rd overall. Robbie Anderson at 74th. Chase Claypool at 75th. Mike Davis at 76th. Wow, Mike Davis. I don't know what world...

This is not a criticism of ESPN, by the way. It's not like it's their fault. I'm just saying I can't imagine a world I mean even Brandon Cooks is behind Odell Beckham I'd rather have Beckham you'd rather have Beckham than Cooks that's really close

it's not that close to me I don't see Cooks having a ton of upside but he's much safer than Beckham but yeah fine but Davis in the 70s that would be pretty good Cook's having a ton of upside, but he's much safer than Beckham. But yeah, fine. But Davis in the 70s, that would be pretty good. Yeah, yeah. Four more on ESPN that are good that are a little later.

Damian Harris is 88th overall, so a round eight pick. Devin Singletary at the end of round 12, pick 143. I love that. Harris, Marshall, and Giovanni Bernard are both outside the top 200 in ADP on ESPN and ESPN full PPR is their standard setting so you do a geo at

217 can you do a little control F for someone or now oh yeah yeah no problem I just want to know where James White is going um yeah I've got 40 48 at RB 162.6 ADP where James White is going. Yeah. I've got that. 48 at RB, 162.6 ADP.

Yeah. I mean, he shouldn't be 60 picks ahead of Gio or whatever it was, 50 picks. Right. Yeah. I'll throw out a couple on ESPN. Adam Thielen's wide receiver, 16. That is wild. He was the one I skipped

that I had as a bad ADP. Yes. Yeah, he's four picks ahead of Julio Jones and eight picks ahead of Tyler Lockett and Cooper Cup. That's DJ man. DJ Morris 17 picks after him. There is no world in which that makes sense.

Touch Yahoo is half PPR. There are a lot more good values that I found. The ones I don't like, JK Dobbins is 26th. CD Lam is 35th. I think everybody's overreacting. I don't know.

I don't know if people are overreacting about Dobbins. I haven't changed Dobbins at all. Half PPR, 26th overall, so that's your third pick. You start Kamara, Jefferson, Dobbins. I'd be fine with that in half PPR. No way would I take him that early in full PPR, though.

Lamb is 35th. That's one that probably makes more sense in PPR than half PPR, but I'm just not taking CeeDee Lamb in round three. I'd rather take Amari Cooper. Kyle Pitts is a fourth rounder on Yahoo. Tyler Higbee is the Logan Thomas of Yahoo. Higbee has an ADP of 65th.

Wow. Fifth pick of round six. Man, Noah Fant is tight end 10 on Yahoo right now. Behind Robert Tunyon, who is the first pick of Yahoo. Yes. Ronald Jones. Logan Thomas is 11 sorry yes

Ronald Jones is a sixth round pick on Yahoo the only site that I've seen where Jones is ahead of Fournette and I do have Jones ahead of Fournette but I don't have either one of my first eight rounds the good values are more fun

I wrote about Jacoby Myers today as one of them in my first eight rounds. The good values are more fun. I wrote about Jacoby Myers today as one of my deep sleepers on every team, and I always choose players outside of the top 180 in ADP. And, Logan, Jacoby Myers' ADP is not moving. On CBS, he's 149, and he's not a riser. On Yahoo, he's 184. I'm surprised it's that high. You guys like,

uh, Jacoby Myers or Marquis Calloway Myers Calloway for me. Um, others. Give me the guy with Jameis starring to him, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

You mean the defense for at least four weeks? Um, Oh, you mean Thomas? Is that a Michael Thomas? Yeah. Okay mean the defensive back? For at least four weeks. Oh, you mean Thomas? Is that a Michael Thomas? Yeah. Okay. It's mostly the wide receivers. It must be a two-wide receiver setup over on Yahoo,

but Jamar Chase is pick 78 in round seven. Juju is pick 91. Michael Thomas is pick 95. michael thomas is pick 95 jerry judy dave's going down the list dave's third round pick jerry judy is uh pick 99 i tried to find a couple of running backs value i liked i like kenyan drake at pick 120 the end of the 10th round i like jamal williams at pick 120, the end of the 10th round. I like Jamal Williams at pick 138. LaVisca Chenault, 153. Marvin Jones, 174.

Who do you like better? I like Chenault better, and at that range, I don't know that the 20 picks matter. No, I thought so. It seems like if you're playing on yahoo unless again we don't know the specifics of the adp maybe this is for two receiver leagues and you're gonna play in a three receiver league or something like that but good value at wide

receiver very late it's a fun set i'll always enjoy this segment heath i guess it's the it's the work you put in you know well yeah i mean like i i spend countless hours researching this to bring you all the best content. And I just appreciate everyone that's still listening because Adam always puts this segment in the 55th minute. Well, you don't know this, but people actually in new podcast trend, people listen to the end of the show first. So that's why I did this for you. You know, some people listen. Chris wrote the article and you could promote it a little bit. Chris will ghostwrite it for you.

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