Fantasy Football Today - Antonio Brown, Teddy Bridgewater and a Mailbag (04/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: April 28, 2021We've got big news just a day before the NFL Draft! The Broncos have acquired Teddy Bridgewater, so let's talk QBs. Who do you want quarterbacking your team - Sam Darnold, Drew Lock or Teddy Bridgewat...er (1:50)? And what does this trade mean for the Broncos (5:45)? Would the outlooks for the WRs change dramatically if Bridgewater wins the job? ... More news including Antonio Brown's return to the Bucs (9:15). Find out why this could be the best offense in the NFL but the most frustrating for Fantasy. We also give some NFL Draft bold predictions (22:55) and then talk about where we would rank a rookie WR if selected by the Packers (26:00) ... On to your emails (33:00), we answer your Dynasty questions, keeper questions, Clyde Edwards-Helaire questions (40:00), James Robinson questions, Superflex questions and more ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Want in the Podcast League? Try our NFL Draft contest! https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/permalink/1115877195573244/ 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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See if we get some tweets that are rolling in now as well.
I put a tweet out there.
We also have the worst Twitter poll of all time to talk about at the top of the show because we have some big
news. Antonio Brown, re-signed by
the Bucs, and Teddy Bridgewater traded
to the Broncos. I'm Adam Azer with Heath
Cummings and Chris Towers. I feel like we haven't heard
from Chris in a while. Hey, Chris.
Hey, guys. How's everyone doing?
I told Heath
and you. I guess you were there, too. Blew a tire
out today. First time I've
ever done that. Really sucked.
So I guess I've been better.
That's not fun.
No.
I'm sorry.
That was today?
That was today.
That was a few hours ago.
Yeah, ruined our day.
I'm really sorry.
That sucks.
I take no joy in this whatsoever.
It's funny to look at my car.
It's just, you know, like very lopsided.
How, like, were you near your house?
I was.
I was 30 seconds, so I was able to get home.
Maybe shouldn't have.
You were going somewhere.
We were going, yes.
We were venturing out for a birthday,
and we were going to be kind of out there in public for the first time in 15 months,
and I blew my tires.
So, some other time.
All right.
Well, anyway, let's get to the fun stuff here.
Heath put up a Twitter poll just now.
You have a playoff roster in 2021 outside of quarterback,
and it just went away.
So, what did it say?
Which one are you taking?
Sam Darnold?
Which one do you choose? Sam Darnold? Which one do you choose?
Sam Darnold, Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater, or C Results? And when you said this was the worst
Twitter poll of all time, I hope what you meant to say was this is the worst group of voters in
a Twitter poll of all time, because for some reason, Sam Darnold has received 48.1% of the vote. I don't understand at all.
Hey, let me ask you a question.
Where would you...
Before you even answer,
I'm just going to tell you that
what I'm going to say after
is going to make you and everyone else
that answers this question privately look bad.
So, where would you rank Sam Darnold
in this quarterback class?
That's an impossible question to answer.
Six.
Okay.
Chris, you want to?
Like if I was drafting in this class and Sam Darnold was suddenly available
in the draft, I would take him sixth.
Right.
That would be weird amongst the quarterbacks. That's because you've seen him sixth. Right? Yeah, but that's because
he's younger than half the quarterbacks.
Well, if you're just evaluating them.
Yeah, well, what would you do, Chris?
I would probably take any of the quarterbacks
ahead of him,
but any of the big five at least,
just because, you know,
the mystery box element of it.
Yeah.
But if it's Sam Donald,
the prospect.
Yeah. The most likely's Sam Darnold, the prospect. Yeah.
The most likely outcome for Lance
is he's probably worse than Darnold.
Yeah.
So I just saw,
I just thought it was interesting
that Mel Kiper Jr. said,
if you put Sam Darnold in this draft,
he's the second best quarterback.
So.
I'd say third.
Yeah.
What that makes me think is maybe this isn't a great
quarterback class yeah well he doesn't really make me think like sam darnold's good he likes
darnold no we know sam darnold's bad we have seen that over and over like it's probably bad but he
has been bad yeah yes um whenever i do the projections with Sam Donald, I always feel bad because like,
if you just look at the numbers and you use those to predict the future,
which is what projections generally do.
Sam Donald looks like he's like 25% worse than every other quarterback in the
league.
He's been,
he's been the worst quarterback in terms of passer rating since he's come in
the league.
Yeah.
Sam Donald.
So again,
if you have a playoff roster in 2021 outside of quarterback, which one do you choose?
Darnold, 49%.
Bridgewater, 38%.
Drew Locke, 5%.
See results, 8%.
And let's...
See results is the right answer to that poll.
The results are you didn't get very far in the playoffs.
Those are the results you see.
So who do you think...
We should probably be talking about Antonio Brown first, but that's fine. Who do you think is going to be the starting quarterback?
It was only a six round pick. They gave up for, for Darnold, uh, or for Bridgewater Heath. What
do you make of this for the Broncos? I think it's a great move by the Broncos. Um, shouldn't have
any impact at all on whether they select a quarterback in the first round.
If that possibility exists for them,
especially I think to get fields,
then they need to do that.
Although that doesn't seem like John always type.
But yeah,
I think,
I think if they can get fields,
they should do it and he should be their starter.
And if not,
it depends on whether you want to take a chance on continuing to develop
true luck or not.
If you're trying to make the playoffs,
and I think they have a pretty good roster,
they might have, if you just took away
all the quarterbacks in the league
and compared the rest of the rosters,
the Broncos might have a playoff roster.
So if you're trying to make the playoffs this year,
you start Teddy Bridgewater, without a doubt.
I think Drew Locke definitely starts the season
as the starter, and I think Teddy Bridgewater
definitely starts at least a few games.
They're very different quarterbacks, Chris, aren't they?
I mean, this would have a...
What a field fault tool.
They're basically polar opposites.
Well, I don't know if that's maybe a little strong,
but they're very different quarterbacks,
and how do you think it would affect the wide receivers?
So I think Drew Locke...
I'm trying not to be too mean but i'm pretty low on drew lock
i think his comp is kind of jamis winston but like 65 as talented because he makes a lot of
the dumb throws that jamis winston does but he doesn't have the actual same arm talent to actually get away with it as often as
Jameis did. So I think
he's probably better for the wide receivers
there than Teddy Bridgewater, just because I think he'd be more willing to
take the deep shots. And last year, Bridgewater
actually was middle of the pack
in terms of attempt rate over 20%.
He was just really bad at it.
And the one thing that sticks out to me is, yes, he's a solid quarterback.
Like you look at his career yards per attempt, 7.3.
It was 7.6 last year.
That's all good.
He's got a 3.4% touchdown rate for his career.
Like last year's 3% touchdown rate
actually wasn't that much lower than his career rate. And I think at this point,
you know, 1500, 1600 attempts in that's probably who he is. He's probably someone who can get the
job done for the most part, but you're always going to be leaving points on the field with
him as quarterback lock. You're definitely leaving points on the field with him as quarterback lock. You're definitely leaving points on the field
with him as a quarterback when if he plays as poorly as he has so
far, but there's still the potential that he
can, you know, turn into kind of a middling
quarterback, but who has, you know, that gunslinger approach that can be good for fantasy
receivers, you know, maybe a I don't know a Ryan Fitzpatrick quarterback, but who has that gunslinger approach that can be good for fantasy receivers. Maybe a
Ryan Fitzpatrick
type.
Heath, I want to finish up here.
Basically, how
might your projections change on the Broncos
after this?
I just don't know why anybody thinks Sam
Darnold is any good at all.
He makes a lot of really good
throws. He's got a lot of talent.
He has moments where you fall in love with him.
He flashes really, really high.
Right.
He does these random super-athletic plays.
And I think there's also just the,
well, he's leaving Adam Gase factor.
Yeah.
I think that's a big part of it.
I don't anticipate this will change the projections
for any of the Broncos.
Okay.
If anything, it gives them a better floor. I don't know that will change the projections for any of the Broncos. Okay. If anything, it gives them a better floor.
I don't know that it really impacts their ceiling,
but if Drew Locke doesn't get any better at all,
they should have better quarterback play this year than they did last year.
Sure.
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All right, then.
Let's get to the news and notes.
Other than the Denver quarterback situation,
let's go to the Buccaneers.
I'm annoyed.
I'm annoyed from a fantasy standpoint.
I found them to be really difficult to predict
and project on a week-to-week basis with Antonio Brown.
And now he's back on a one-year deal.
And if you want the numbers,
during the seven game,
now Mike Evans got hurt in week 17.
And he played like 16% of the snaps.
Antonio Brown had a huge game with,
and Godwin did too, I believe,
with Evans out.
So if you look at the seven games
in the regular season
that they all played together,
Mike Evans was by far the best.
He was a top seven wide receiver.
Chris Godwin was wide receiver 25 in both formats.
Antonio Brown was wide receiver 50 in non-PPR
and wide receiver 42 in PPR.
Those were not including week 17, weeks nine through 16.
Seven games that all three wide receivers played
and stayed healthy.
But then in the playoffs,
Chris Godwin had a lot more targets than Mike Evans.
It was just weird.
So, Heath, what do you think about this move
with Antonio Brown coming back?
And what does it mean for Godwin and Evans?
I don't like it,
and I have not updated my projections yet,
which is disappointing, I know.
Bad job by me.
But I had kind of just always tried to behave in my mind as if Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown and Leonard Fournette were not all going to come back because they all make the situation so much worse and so much more complicated.
And with all three of them back, it's just absolutely awful.
Like Antonio Brown technically led Tampa Bay in targets per game and
receptions per game last year.
He had more targets per game and receptions per game than Mike Evans and
Chris Godwin.
Yeah.
Oh, but not in the seven games, but it per just per game,
the 16 games that Evans played, the 12 that Goblin played,
the eight that Brown played.
Yeah.
Right.
And so this is going to make it to where I project Mike Evans
and Chris Godwin to both be busts.
Looks like Chris has a swan on his desk.
Just almost certainly.
And it's probably going to move Tom Brady into my top eight.
At quarterback.
That's interesting.
Okay, so Chris Godwin and Evans to be busts.
So where do you have them?
Certainly.
If they get drafted where?
I assume they were both drafted in the first three rounds.
Yeah, they've both been going top 15 at the position.
I will not have either of them in the top four rounds. Yeah, same. I hate this. I hate I kind of hate this offense with the I don't think I'm going to have anybody on this offense except
Tom Brady. There's just there is no clarity on roles. There is no clarity on hierarchy.
There's a lot of skills overlap. There's
just
could be the best
football though, Chris. That's the problem, right?
But they have
you should draft them
best ball for sure. They'll be very good in best ball,
right? There will be big weeks for all of them.
There will be weeks where Mike Evans scores, you know,
multiple touchdowns, but like he
was wide receiver
15 last year, I think.
No. That was scoring
12 touchdowns? Per game?
I think so. Yeah, per game he was 16
in PPR. Overall, he was 11.
It's a little, like I said, he left that one
week, but yeah, 16 per game and
11 overall. That's with 13 touchdowns.
That was scoring 13 touchdowns.
Yeah. 13 on 109 targets right and like yes it's a
great offense and yes mike evans historically has been someone who catches a lot of touchdowns
but mike evans is also a really good example of why you shouldn't expect outlier touchdown
totals to sustain from one year to the next. Remember his rookie season, I think he had nine.
He's had one season, I think, where he had 12
and followed it up with three, I want to say.
I think that was his rookie season.
His second season, he had the big dip.
This is the third time in his career
he's had at least 12 touchdowns.
The prior two times, he scored five or a few
the following season.
So you should bet on Mike Evans scoring five or fewer touchdowns next year.
I have him projected for seven and a half.
I think eight is the right number to set.
You know,
the guy I would take is,
is Antonio Brown.
I mean,
I'm,
I don't really want to depending on how late he goes,
but yeah,
but I don't know,
man.
I mean,
they're so good.
They're so good.
Well,
here's the thing.
I don't think they're going to be drafted in the top 15 anymore
because everyone's going to feel the way that we're feeling,
or at least fantasy analysts are going to feel the way
that we're feeling right now,
and they're going to fall in the rankings.
So if you guys start getting to round four,
and you're looking at them, and you're looking at DJ Moore,
I think it becomes a lot more interesting.
If you can give me 110 targets for Chris Goblin or Mike Evans,
then I think you're going to get
a top 20 receiver there for sure.
You don't think so?
Because they'll score touchdowns.
What did he throw? 42 touchdowns last year?
Not if he was 16th with 13 touchdowns
on 109 targets.
110 targets is not enough.
I bet he was a little higher than that, honestly,
if you take away week 17.
But I know that you have to do that to everybody.
It's not the easiest thing.
But I think that they're going to throw a lot of touchdowns.
They're going to throw a lot of passes,
and they're probably going to be among the league leaders
in touchdowns, especially with so many mobile quarterbacks
are rushing for touchdowns.
Tom Brady's not going to do that, right?
Wouldn't you think the Bucs are going to be
among the league leaders in passing touchdowns?
Yes.
Yes.
For sure.
But not, what was it?
42, I think?
He got to 40 last year, right?
Yeah, I bet he gets to 40 this year.
Oh, with 17 games?
Yeah.
In 17 games, maybe.
But it's...
40.
I think this offense probably isn't going to be
quite as good as it was last year.
Generally speaking, when you're talking about the top offense in football, But it's 40. I think this offense probably isn't going to be quite as good as it was last year.
Generally speaking, when you're talking about the top offense in football,
it's very rare that the top offense in football is the top offense in football two years in a row.
Obviously, the Chiefs were number one in 2018.
I think they've been fifth and eighth in the last two seasons in points per game.
So they'll probably be the fifth best offense in the NFL next
season.
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's still really,
really good,
but who's throwing more touchdowns.
It's by the way,
they threw 42.
He threw 40 and Blake ever through two,
but it's not just who's throwing more touchdowns than Tom Brady.
It's how is he distributing those touchdowns?
How many touchdowns will there be?
I would think there's going to be, you know, like last year,
there were three guys who had seven touchdowns on that team.
And that's with Antonio Brown getting four and eight games.
I think you're probably going to have four guys get, you know,
six plus touchdowns.
It's also like five games.
Yeah. And he's going to throw to Giovanni Bernard games. Yeah.
And he's going to throw to Giovanni Bernard near the red zone.
You know,
like this is just,
it's an incredibly crowded offense and it's going to be really good.
I just,
I don't know how anyone's going to stand out enough to justify,
you know,
drafting them as like highend starters for sure.
I don't think there's any way.
Right, but if you start talking about Kenny Galladay or Mike Evans,
that's easy, right, Evans?
Or is it not easy?
Kenny Galladay.
Really?
Yeah.
It's just that Evans has been so good his entire career. He's
never had less than a thousand yards. You know, it's hard to bet against him.
Right. But he got like, he needed a big game at the end to get there last year, right? He got
a hundred and a thousand and six last season missed the game. And that was with one 81 and
one 10 in his final two and two of his final three games. And then in the playoffs,
he averaged 51.
The playoffs were
discouraging. I was hoping this would
happen. What? I just
don't think it's... I don't
know if it's discouraging as much as it's just
acknowledging the reality of
this offense. There's not going to be
a real number one wide receiver.
It's interesting. Go ahead, Heath. i or number one running back i just uh updated my projections they will be updated
again but for now 110 targets for mike evans hey all right 1014 receiving yards so he gets to keep that streak going.
I've got him right around wide receiver 30.
Oh, 30. All right. So actually, I have to apologize because I
was doing 110 based on
16 games, so I
would need more than 110.
I have him for 118.
Yeah, that would sound right.
No way does Mike Evans
get 118 targets and finish as wide receiver 30. No way does Mike Evans... I have Godwin 24. No way does Mike Evans get 118 targets
and finish as wide receiver 30.
No way.
Everybody's getting 120 targets this year.
Yeah, like 118 targets,
that is 33rd in the NFL in my projections.
So I just...
But his quarterback is so good. He's going to be really good on a target basis.
He's going to have really, really big games,
but I just don't think he's going to be a reliable week in, week out.
He'll be a fringe number two wide receiver
who's really disappointing a lot of the times, I think.
Also, this is a good time since you said that, Adam,
and I'm going to say that's a lot this offseason.
I said it a lot last offseason.
If a player is at wide receiver
30 in the projections
and he plays 16 games
and hits in his projection,
he will finish as a
top 24 wide receiver because
at least six guys
ahead of him won't.
Sure. Okay, so
how about,
would you rather have Juju Smith-Schuster
or a Bucs wide receiver?
I know Heath is a lot higher on Juju than I am.
I have both Evans and Godwin ahead of Juju.
I have Juju ahead of all Bucs wide receivers.
Jamar Chase goes to the Bengals.
Jamar Chase or a Bucs wide receiver?
Probably both Godwin and Evans.
Definitely Godwin.
That would be a pretty crowded receiving court too.
Would you rather have Antonio Brown or a 49ers wide receiver?
Oh, two different 49ers receivers.
Yeah.
I do wonder how good Antonio Brown is.
He's going to be 33 this year, right?
32 or 33.
I'll check real quick.
He's going to be 33 in July.
He looked pretty awesome last year.
I know.
I'm wondering if he could actually be the best wide receiver on the team.
Brady did look for him more,
and that's the...
It's kind of like Pittsburgh.
I don't think Deontay Johnson
is their best or most talented wide receiver.
I think he's probably third.
But Roethlisberger just keyed in on him so much,
and there were definitely times like that
with Antonio Brown, too,
although playoffs for him also not super encouraging.
What's the most yards Tom Brady could throw for
without the Bucs having a 1,000-yard receiver?
That'd be fun if he threw for like 4,800 yards
and none of them hit 1,000.
Let's move on to our next topic here.
We got to get to our emails.
Denver acquired Teddy Bridgewater.
The Saints are looking to trade up for cornerback Caleb Farley,
according to Yahoo's Charles Robinson.
We'll see if that's true.
Baltimore has cooled on LSU wide receiver Terrace Marshall
due to injury concerns.
That's according to The Athletic.
Washington acquired guard Eric Flowers from Miami
for a swap of seventh-round picks.
Flowers could start, could be a backup.
He's been a better guard, much better guard than tackle in his career.
He was a total bust as a tackle, Eric Flowers.
And Detroit inquired about the number four pick, which is Atlanta's.
They were inquiring so they could move up to take Jamar Chase,
but the asking price was too high.
That's according to ESPN.
And Saquon Barkley is on track for week one, according to Adam Schefter,
which I didn't realize was a concern.
Yeah, I don't think it was really a question.
This could be wrong um and
i'm not going to change my projection i'm just emotionally feeling this i hate it when there is
a story about a player that we really didn't have any reason to think wouldn't be ready for week one
that he is expected to be ready for week one from a guy like, like a local guy, a local paper. Well,
fine.
But Schefter or rapport,
somebody tweets that Saquon Barkley is on track for week one in April.
And I shiver.
It's weird.
It was weird.
It's like he got hurt in week two.
Why wouldn't he be ready for,
for the season?
That's not a year long recovery anymore.
It's kind of like if your wife just out of the blue says to you, honey, I would never cheat on you.
I didn't
think you would. Why are you telling me
this? And, you know,
according to Dave Gettleman,
they do have another three down back on their roster.
That's right. So, Devante
Booker, three down back.
No, I still have
Barkley ranked fourth at running
back. I don't really have any concerns.
Maybe we get to July and he's not running,
and then I'll be concerned,
but I would imagine he's well on his way to recovery.
I dropped an NFL draft bold prediction
on the tweet machine last night,
and of course it was wacky and people didn't like it.
My bold prediction
was that Penne Sewell does not get drafted in the top 10, five quarterbacks, three wide receivers,
one tight end, and maybe a defensive player get taken. Well, that's not a bold prediction. That's
called daydreaming about your team. No, no, I wouldn't even want that to happen. I, I,
I wouldn't care. That was the best possible thing't even want that to happen. I wouldn't care.
That was the best possible thing that could happen to the Giants.
I'd rather them take one of the wide receivers.
But for fan purposes, I understand that,
but they have wide receivers.
One of the three wide receivers,
not like Cadareous Tony.
Yeah, so that's my bold prediction
is that Pene Sewell falls out of the top 10.
Do you guys have an NFL draft bold prediction
you'd like to share?
The 49ers make a mistake.
Is that not bold enough?
Is that kind of the consensus at this point?
Two.
Two.
The Bears trade up somehow, get Justin Fields.
Oh. And no running backs in the first round okay anymore ever all right well i do want to talk to you to all of you about the cbs sports
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By the way, Chris, should I drop
Ian Kennedy for the
closer for the Royals?
Josh
Stelmont? Yeah.
Depends if you're in one of my leagues.
Yes.
Don't. Keep being Kennedy.
Did you guys know that the Royals
have the best record in baseball?
Yeah. Their lineup is awful.
None of them are hitting. They must have just
great pitching. Oh, yeah. They're due to be even better.
I guess so.
I mean, yeah. There's
no way Jake Junis comes back down to Earth.
This is a good fantasy football podcast
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I asked for some
NFL draft tweets. I got
one. So
that's disappointing, people.
But it was, to be fair, only like a half
hour before the show. Well, that's because they were
their draft tweets and
they didn't send them out. I was
confused. Left them in drafts.
That's good. All right, from
Ray. Ray Saja
Jr. If the Packers
draft a wide receiver, where would he be ranked,
and how does that ranking change with the individual
player? Assuming it's not
Chase Smith or Waddle.
How would you rank a
wide receiver that the Packers take in round one?
Off the top of my head,
I would think it would be very unlikely.
Any of them would rank in the top 50 at wide receiver.
I was going to say it would be between 40 and 60.
Yeah,
that there's just not a lot of targets to go around there.
It's not going to be a high-volume passing offense.
Devontae Adams is going to get 30% of them off the top.
That's the question.
I mean, what if that's 25%?
I think it would be a bad decision,
given how good their offense has been
funneling that many targets to him.
And, you know,
I don't think you would want to take targets away
from Devontae Adams for any rookie wide receiver.
If you're going to take targets away from the passing game,
from the running backs, Aaron Jones,
or any of the tight ends, or Alan Lazard,
I think that makes sense.
But I think it would be a bad decision,
and I don't think the Packers would do it
to take any targets away from Devonta Adams.
I would be more excited. I'm so weird
because they have a combination of like they're
one of the only teams that each last
three years has been below 300
to pass attempts to wide receivers
and also has like the
number one wide receiver target
per game guy other than Michael Thomas.
So there's just not
wide receiver targets to give.
They're one of the few teams that still uses their wide receiver one,
the way teams did 10,
15 years ago.
Like there aren't that many guys who get 28% of the targets anymore,
but the Packers really do use him like that.
But they also are one of the,
like I said,
it's been since 2002 since they've drafted a wide receiver in the first round.
They have garbage wide receivers.
So if they get, I don't
think it'll be Kedarious. Maybe it's Kedarious, Tony. Who knows?
If they get Rondell Moore, Kedarious, Tony,
somebody that comes in and can instantly be
much better than MVS
and Alan Lazard,
then I'd be more excited
because I would just look at a situation
where the targets might not be great,
but the production per target could be a lot better
than other wide receivers in that range.
So I guess I would make Justin Jefferson comparisons.
Not that I would think the impact would be the same,
but I thought Justin Jefferson could easily step
into the number two target role.
And that's what I would see for someone with the Packers.
And maybe it's 90 to 100 targets in Packers. And maybe it's a hundred target
90 to a hundred targets in 17 games. And maybe it's six or seven touchdowns or something like
that. And I, I don't know that I'd rank them much higher than 40 or anything, but I'd be more
excited. I think I just want pieces of great offenses, you know, and if you get a talented
player with Aaron Rogers, I'm in. Yeah. And, and, you know, to go back to the Tampa Bay point
we're talking about them as if
everyone's going to stay healthy. That's not going to happen.
It's the same thing with Green Bay. If they do draft
a wide receiver, Devontae Adams has
missed four games in 2019.
He's missed time
over the last couple of seasons.
There's a possibility that
there's a significant role there.
Alan Lazard has obviously struggled to stay healthy.
MVS hasn't exactly made a great case for staying on the field.
So there could be an opportunity there for sure.
It would just be like I wouldn't count.
I wouldn't expect anyone being drafted there to be a starting caliber player.
They would have to earn that.
Sure.
Yeah, of course.
And like the Justin Jefferson comparison, i want to make sure i um state how outlandish that is like 75 percent
of his volume which is what you're talking about with 90 to 100 targets and at best 90 of his
efficiency because Justin Jefferson
can't even maintain that efficiency.
You're talking about a guy
that catches 60 passes
for 900 yards and five touchdowns.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's possible,
but that's not a top 40 wide receiver
in the projections.
Now, at the end of the year,
if he plays 16 games,
he'll finish in the top 40,
but 60, 905 as a projection is 45 to 50, right?
Yeah, right.
Like I said, I don't think I would rank...
I don't know if this makes a lot of sense to most people,
but it makes sense to me.
I'm not saying I'd rank the guy higher,
but even when you look at rankings,
there are certain players that I'm more excited to draft
because I feel like there's more upside, I guess.
Sure.
And that's...
Yeah, there's a difference between rankings and projection.
Yeah, I would just be more excited about
the upside of the number two receiver on the Packers
than I might be of...
Who's in that range?
Who's 45 for you?
Antonio Brown.
Antonio, so I would probably take Antonio Brown.
Tyrell F. Williams.
Denzel, I would take the number two guy in the Packers
way ahead of the number one wide receiver
on the Jets or the Lions.
He'd probably be about as talented as Denzel Mims
with less target opportunity.
We don't know how talented.
We know that Denzel Mims was like a combine star,
and I'm interested there.
But I guess I can't.
We don't know how talented this fictional rookie wide receiver is either.
Correct.
We don't.
You're right.
Like Michael Gallup.
It'd be the same range as like a Michael Gallup or a Loviska Chenault.
Like those guys, you want to draft them.
Yeah.
Well, I happen to like Kadarius Tony a lot.
That's where Alan Lazard is for me.
If it were Kadarius Tony, I would be very excited.
Let's put it that way.
I think that's fair.
That's why I said 40 to 60,
and it would depend on how much I liked him before the draft.
But that's probably better to just say 50 and not factor that in.
Cool. 50 it is.
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Let's read your emails.
Thanks a lot for sending them in.
We've got one from Josh
from a town west of Minneapolis.
We will say San Francisco.
He needs to keep
one of these three. He's already
keeping McCaffrey and Devante Adams,
James Robinson in the third round,
Keenan Allen in the sixth round or David Montgomery in the seventh round.
It's probably,
I would guess it's Allen.
I think I have him ranked higher than Montgomery.
Although do you have to make a
decision before the first two days of the draft?
Because after the first
two days of the draft, it could definitely be James Robinson.
Yeah.
Yeah, but for three rounds
higher, I'm
probably between I'd probably go
Allen and PPR and Montgomery and none.
But okay.
This is from Mike D. He is from the Apple and Hop capital of Montgomery and none. Okay. This is from Mike D.
He is from the Apple and Hop
capital of the Pacific Northwest,
which I assume is Seattle
because he says,
Dear Sean, Gary, Detlef, and Nate,
from a series...
What?
Thunder?
I'm going to say Thunder.
From a series of trades
of current and future
rookie draft picks,
I now own the first and second overall picks
in a 10-team Superflex Dynasty startup draft.
From the second round on, I will pick eighth in a snake draft,
and I lost my third round pick from one of my trades.
But he does have the first two picks.
So should I start QBQB, startup Superflex Dynasty, or Elite Running Back?
What do you guys think?
What would you do with the first two picks,
10-team, Superflex Dynasty?
I'd probably go Mahomes, McCaffrey.
Oh, the start?
Okay, yeah.
Startup draft, yes.
Okay, that makes sense.
Sorry.
I thought he was talking about a rookie draft.
Yes.
Mahomes and McCaffrey.
From Jack.
I have the second pick in a 10-team PPR two-receiver league with a flex.
My first five picks are pretty locked in.
This is a very open question here.
Round six through 12, who are some players you would target?
So that would be picks 51 and on.
PPR, what do you think?
So I'll just say
like some players I'm higher on than the
consensus in that. See, there you go. You don't have to laugh
at the guy. One of my favorite players from that range.
What happened to the guy who chose this email?
I'm probably higher on
the consensus than Curtis Samuel,
probably on Corey Davis as well.
I'm probably higher on the consent than the consensus on Mark Andrews.
Yes.
Mark Anderson.
You like Debo,
right?
He land probably doesn't make it to that.
Yeah.
I like Debo a lot.
I have him as the 49ers.
Number one, wide receiverers number one wide receiver,
or number one for fantasy,
and actually a top 20 wide receiver.
So yeah, I like him.
Juju, if he makes it there.
I still think there's room for Marquise Brown to break out.
I'm taking Kareem Hunt in that range again.
Seems okay, yeah. Once you get to the 80s or so, I think there's room for Marquise Brown to break out. I'm taking Kareem Hunt in that range again. It seems okay.
Once you get to the 80s or so, I like Tyler Boyd.
Yeah, I think he's going to be undervalued.
Even if they take a receiver tomorrow?
Yeah, I think so.
I think he'll have his role.
I think he'll be...
I'm just going to keep comparing him to Julian Edelman.
85% of Julian Edelman at his best.
Yeah, I think...
I'm sorry.
I'm going to say this out loud.
And hopefully George is not listening to today's podcast.
But I think Tyler Boyd's better than Julian Edelman.
In fantasy, though?
I mean, Julian Edelman is...
No, but just like saying Tyler Boyd could be 85% of anything Julian Edelman doesn't sound right mean Julian Edelman no but just like saying Tyler
Boyd could be 85% of anything Julian
Edelman doesn't sound right I don't know
if I mean Edelman is Tyler Boyd's not
gonna make the Hall of Fame Heath like
100% lock Tyler Boyd well I'm sorry he
was born at the wrong place wrong time
and didn't get to play with Tom Brady
yeah the thing with this range that I'm
realizing is there are like no running backs that i like in
this range right um like it's either i'm gonna take multiple running backs inside of the top 30
or i'm probably not gonna take a running back until late so this is a really good this height
kind of highlights why that's my approach which is the wide receiver options available after pick 50 are so much better than the
running backs who are likely going to get pushed up into that range because that's what always happens
is there's going to be David
Johnson's and James Connors and guys like that getting
pushed up, whoever the Steelers starter is, if they don't get a good rookie,
those guys are going to go in this range
because that's what always happens.
And you're better off
targeting wide receivers
in the 50 to 100 range.
And that's also where you should
probably get your quarterback
in a non-super flex league.
And maybe your tight end
if you don't go with one of the big three.
And I got to tell you,
this was the best question we read so far, Heath. you know, maybe your tight end if you don't go with one of the big three. And I got to tell you, I,
this was the best question we read so far.
Heath.
That was a heck of a conversation that we had.
Yeah.
I got some more projections to updated.
You put Tyler Boyd in the hall of fame.
Lemons out of lemonade.
My guy.
Come on.
There you go.
Oh boy. Do I hate lemonade?
Uh,
Sean says,
happy grill season.
Yeah. That's all the grill season for Sean says, Happy grill season. Yeah.
That's all.
Grill season for Heath.
Always.
South Florida.
Yeah.
I've been offered Allen Robinson,
Keenan Allen,
and some points
in a salary cap league
for Tyreek Hill.
Half PPR.
Would you give up Tyreek Hill
to get Allen Robinson,
Keenan Allen,
and some salary cap points?
Oh, man.
I think you'd have to.
Yeah, that's a good haul.
Two top 12-ish wide receivers.
I know Tyreek Hill's amazing, and especially in half-point PPR,
that's an even better format for him, relatively speaking.
But two top 12 wide receivers,
and you have an additional flexibility in your budget
to push an elite running back for three extra dollars i think that's probably the
the right move yeah i was looking i i think even like without the points the trade chart would say
um alan and robinson are are more valuable so boys got to get a premium when you take multiple
players over the best player and i think this is to get a premium when you take multiple players
over the best player.
And I think this is enough of a premium.
Yeah, it's not like you're getting
two mid-range wide receiver twos.
These guys are both probably
wide receiver ones or pretty close.
Okay.
This next email is where it's at.
This is from Daniel W.
He is a longtime listener
and a fan of all the CBS analysts
except Heath,
who claims to be the number one
Kansas City Chiefs fan.
I think I could beat Heath
in Kansas City Chiefs history trivia.
I have never claimed
to be the number one
Kansas City Chiefs fan.
I had almost stopped cheering
for any football team
before they drafted Patrick Mahomes.
Now,
so, Daniel.
You're a frontrunner.
I really want to say this. Damn, Daniel.
By the way, how many
Kansas City Royals games have you watched this year?
How many Royals
games have I watched this year?
I have watched as many Royals games combined
as I have watched other teams' games this year.
Oh.
So zero?
Yes.
I really like baseball.
I didn't know how much I'd like baseball.
What happened to you, Heath?
Without being on the show.
You're too big for baseball now?
You're too big time?
I'm not at all.
It's just...
They got you on the FFT pod full time now
and you don't even think
about baseball I don't have an MLB subscription anymore because I don't do anything baseball
related and I they don't show Royals games in South Florida I'm I'm not gonna watch the network
I'm gonna watch the Marlins yeah yeah the Marlins have an exceptional pitching staff
Heath you haven't watched Trevor Rodgers yet?
You don't know what life is like.
Maybe I'll watch their road games,
but their home stadium is too unappealing.
You know, that's a really...
This is a mailbag show.
We make our own rules here.
The Marlins baseball stadium is so ugly on the inside,
so hideous to look at.
The walls, the turf.
It's just...
Adam, can I tell you something?
What?
I went to a Yankees game recently.
You know what Yankee Stadium reminded me most of?
Oh, no.
Marlins Park.
No, I don't see any similarities.
Yes.
No, no.
I don't see any similarities.
You got nice Kentucky bluegrass in the Bronx. I don't see any similarities. You got nice Kentucky bluegrass
in the Bronx.
I don't know what you got in.
It's just a boring,
ugly stadium to look at.
And it makes for...
And the lighting.
I don't think the lighting is bad.
It makes for...
Yeah, but enough about...
Bad watch.
But enough about Yankee Stadium, Adam.
All right, here's the question.
Dear Russell, Leaf, Mandarich, and Couch.
I mean, come on.
You're going to say it's not boring?
At least?
Yankee Stadium is incredibly boring.
When there are 2,000 fans there, maybe,
because it's so cavernous.
No, I'm talking about the architecture.
I don't love it.
It's cavernous.
We can agree that Coffman Stadium
is more beautiful than both.
It's a corporate mausoleum.
It's cavernous.
Fountains, the grass.
All right.
I'm writing to make an observation
that you guys have Clyde Edwards
ranked too low the Chiefs recognized
and learned
one of the most difficult ways the team can learn
the O-line needed to be addressed they need to protect
their 500 million dollar investment first of all
need to start making defenses guess what they're going to do
more they haven't added really any running
back talent as of yet the Chiefs
made a first round investment in Clyde
Edwards-Elair. They haven't made any upgrades
to their defense. It seems the Chiefs with the addition
of Long and Tooney and now
Orlando Brown, they're protecting Mahomes
and taking pressure off of their defense and going
to improve their run game.
Good point. Also, Adam,
watch Pulp Fiction already. Another good point.
I'll try to do that. But are you too low?
Heath, are you too low? Number one Chiefs fan
on Clyde Edwards-Elair? Where do you have him ranked?
I thought that the sentence
I really liked the most
was the Kansas City Chiefs
recognize and learn in one of the most
difficult ways a team can learn
that they shouldn't have drafted a running back
in the first round.
You're right, Daniel.
That's what it said.
I have Clyde 20th 21st something like
that you are too low at uh running back that like i if they get through the draft um the first two
days of the draft without selecting a running back he will will move up a little bit, but I'm sorry.
I've got him 18th in PPR,
but I don't know why I would rank him ahead of Chris Carson or James
Robinson or Josh Jacobs or David Montgomery.
There's, there's that many good running backs.
And he's kind of right there on the border of the guys that I'm not
sure if they're good running backs or not.
And I'm not sure if this is a good situation or not.
They haven't added talent,
but they did bring back the guy who played more snaps than Clyde in the
playoffs.
He was hurting the playoffs.
Yeah, but he was coming back from that injury.
And then in the Super Bowl, he was the guy.
Yeah.
And it looked like the fact that he came back at all
from that injury was pretty surprising.
Yeah, he's tough.
Did you say he was the guy in the Super Bowl at him?
At running back.
Was he?
Well, I think they ran the ball like four times in the first half,
but then I remember he hit his over prop almost immediately.
He had a big run at the beginning of the second half.
It looked pretty good.
I thought Williams played more snaps in the Superbowl as well.
I mean,
maybe because they were trailing by so much,
but at halftime,
they went right back to Clyde Edwards,
Z layer.
And he actually did some good things.
I could be wrong.
Yeah.
I,
I have him as the number 11 running back,
but there is like a,
a real glut between 11 and I don't know,
there's 20 points separating 11 and 20 in the rankings for me.
So,
or in the projections for me.
So,
you know,
a touchdown here,
a touchdown there could move one guy up or down,
but I kind of think he's going to have a pretty healthy role in the passing
game.
You know,
I haven't for 53 catches.
I would guess there's a gap there between you and me.
Oh, for sure.
What's that?
You got to wrap it up. We'll move on after this.
Yeah, I've got him at 44 catches.
That probably explains... If I had him at at 44 he probably drops down like 15 points and
is RB 18 yeah no I've got him 24 points behind number 16 Nick Chubb so that wouldn't get me
there but you know it might it might be close look at this guy man he averaged he averaged 7.1
yards per carry against the Bucs.
He had four carries in the first half and five in the second half.
Nine carries for 64 yards.
Darrell Williams had two carries.
Edward Zeller had three targets.
Darrell Williams had seven targets in the game.
All right, we got a few more questions to read here.
This is from Steve.
Dear Don, Ted, Brian, and John.
Hmm. Oh, man, Brian, and John. Hmm.
Oh, man.
That feels so easy.
Grade this dynasty best ball trade.
Give up 2021 picks 1.2 and 2.2.
Oh, this trade actually changed.
Damn it.
He sent a follow-up email.
Don, Ted, Brian, and John.
There's not a lot of Teds.
Let me come back to this one here.
I'll come back to this one. I'll get the updated email. Sorry.
Oh, it's...
You alright? Did you hurt yourself? Did you pull a Sammy Sosa? You all right?
Did you hurt yourself?
Did you pull a Sammy Sosa?
No, I was like, I was sneezing
and I was scrambling to find the mute button
and I just ran out of time, so I'm sorry.
It's Don Shula, Ted Marchabrota,
Brian Billick, and John Harbaugh.
Okay, I'll come back to that one.
Sorry about that.
What do they have in common?
Ravens.
Or Baltimore, rather.
Matt Wildstein.
Oh, okay, Baltimore Colts. From Northridge, California. Here Baltimore, rather. Matt Wildstein from Northridge, California.
Here's his team.
Would you take Trevor Lawrence?
I guess he has the first pick.
What would you do with the dynasty pick?
He has Jalen Hurts and Tua.
It's a one quarterback league.
He has Jonathan Taylor, Dobbins, and Antonio Gibson.
Julio Jones, McLaurin, Claypool,
Sutton. John Smith
is his tight end. You take Lawrence?
Not a tight end premium league,
right? No.
Yeah, I think you need to go
get Lawrence. You have
two quarterbacks in a super-fleck league.
There's a chance that we get to
next year and neither of them are starters.
No,
it's not a super flex league.
Yeah.
I was thinking you should try to trade it for a really good youngish wide
receiver.
Cause I think that's a bigger need for you.
I think in a one QB league,
it's not that hard to find a QB,
but you've got Julio Jones is your number one,
you know,
his dynasty value
is very low.
Who was the number three?
Taron McLaurin
was number two.
McLaurin, Claypool,
Sutton, Hollywood Brown.
It's not bad.
Debo.
Oh, you got Debo.
That's his number one, Chris.
What do you do, guys?
You get the first pick.
What do you do?
I'm taking Chase.
I'd try to move it.
If not, Chase makes sense.
Yeah.
All right. Let's go back to the Baltimore email so you give
up picks one pick
1.2 and 2.2 in this
draft plus
Keyshawn Vaughn and
Chris Herndon
and you get back
1.9 2.9
James Robinson and Marquise Brown?
I'll have a better answer for you
after day two of the draft,
but if the Jaguars don't add significant talent
at running back, I think I'd probably do that.
And this is super flex,
and he only has one quarterback.
I'm probably I mean, he has Daniel Jones and
Jamis Winston too, but
I'm probably
not doing this
deal.
Okay. Yeah, because you want
to take well, you're not going to get Trevor Lawrence
in all likelihood. Yeah, you'd take Fields or Wilson.
Oh, his best running backs are Chase Edmonds
and Gus Edwards?
Would you rather have 1.2 or James Robinson?
It's kind of what it...
I'd rather have Robinson.
I... well...
Depends on what the Jaguars do in the draft.
If you don't have to make a call until Saturday,
like if you can accept on Saturday,
then that will change my opinion.
But if the Jaguars don't make a significant addition,
I'd rather have Robinson than,
than one Oh two.
I think I'll probably have chase ranked higher than Robinson.
So I think I'd rather have one Oh two,
but man,
you've got all those.
All right, let's go next email is from
from
a man named Max
in Manchester UK
I just drafted Daniel Jones in a super flex
league so I'm an honorary
search Daniel Jones when you pick the emails
every
put Daniel Jones in the email
and it will get read on this show.
Subject line, Daniel Jones.
I'm an honorary Giants fan this year.
All right, Max.
Super Flex League,
what are your thoughts on handcuffing your quarterback?
What do you think?
Depends on how big the Rodgers are.
Yeah, like it's... You'll have some backup quarterbacks get drafted. I don't know how big the Rogers are. Yeah.
Like it's,
you'll have some draft,
some backup quarterbacks get drafted in super flex leagues,
but I'm,
I'm blanking on the,
the giants backup.
I know they signed somebody.
Uh,
it's not Colt McCoy anymore.
Who's their bat?
I don't know.
I don't remember. I don't remember.
I should know that.
I thought they signed somebody.
Yeah.
Either way, it's unlikely to be a good enough.
It's Mike Glennon.
Sorry.
It's unlikely to be a good enough player that you're drafting a backup for the Giants.
That's not.
He was talking in general.
Be great.
Yeah. Like Trubisky in Buffalo,
Mariota,
Heineke.
Those are the three examples that he gave.
Yeah, I don't usually do it,
but I see the logic.
If you have big enough roster spots,
go.
We'll leave it at that.
What are your thoughts on handcuffing wide receivers
on good passing offenses
that you suspect will deliver?
If the starter goes down Hill and Hardman Cooper slash lamb and Gallup,
uh,
digs in Davis for the bills.
What?
This guy just stealing.
I don't think you should do.
It's sort of the French.
Well,
I just,
I don't think you should,
I don't think you should target them over guys who you think are better just because they're a handcuff for someone on your team.
And I think that's true for running backs.
I don't think you should target Alexander Madison
just because he's your backup.
It's got to be a good player.
I think we've kind of seen with Hardman that it's not necessarily,
if he'll go down, he'll be awesome.
It's not
a one-to-one fit. Hardman's fast,
but he's not Tyreek Hill. They're different players.
I don't mind
the concept, but ideally
the friendship strategy was you take
a wide receiver and then you take
a wide receiver on his team that
independently has value. You like
the pick there. You're not just taking him because he's on his team.
And then if the first wide receiver you took gets hurt,
well,
all of a sudden you just have an amazing value in the eighth round or
whatever.
It's like the Kareem hunt of wide receivers.
Exactly.
There's almost none of them are running back,
but there's more of them at wide receiver.
Okay.
And then finally,
and I think there's probably more,
more logic to it
in a super flex league
where you don't have to choose to start one of them.
Okay, from Colin.
I run a 10-team, 5-keeper league, PPR.
During the offseason, I allowed trades,
including draft picks and players.
If a team wants to trade a pick for a player,
at the time of the trade,
the pick must have an equal
value of 30 picks within that player's value according to Fantasy Pro's PPR rankings.
So for example, our first overall pick is technically 51st overall after factoring the
keepers. So the best that can be traded for is the 21st overall pick. But we have a guy with Barkley, Adams, Kelsey, Taylor, Metcalf, Josh Allen,
a lot of guys ranked highly.
He says he's willing to trade anyone, but he's hampered by our rule.
What do you think would be a fair addition to the rule
to allow the ability to trade for a Taylor who's a first-round value?
But obviously, you know, I think you guys get the point.
It's a good question.
I think I speak for both Heath and I when I say get rid of the rule sure right that sounds great okay all right i'm
sorry i don't i don't speak for heath any longer no no i i am 100 one i i'm sorry i didn't express
my uh myself clearly i am am 100% behind that ruling.
There shouldn't be arbitrary limitations
on what you can trade a player for.
Let people make trades that they want to make.
All right, Marocco.
Okay, thank you.
Thanks, everyone.
It's going to be a late week,
a lot of late nights,
but it's going to be a lot of fun.
We will talk to you after round one on Thursday night slash Friday morning.
Thanks to Chris and Heath and all of you.
We will see you then.
Bye.