Fantasy Football Today - AVOID List, Fantasy Cops, Mailbag! (08/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)
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Yeah, fantasy cops!
We are settling league disputes.
Actually, not a ton of fantasy cops today
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I'm Adam Azer with Dan Schneier here on a Friday afternoon.
Oh, sorry, it's 11.48 a.m., so I think it's the afternoon.
Some people think it's still the morning, but whatever the case may be.
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What's going on, Adam?
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Okay, so
let's get started with some players.
I think a couple weeks ago we talked about players that we
draft a lot. Let's talk
about players that we avoid a lot.
Ooh, yeah. Got any avoids?
Oh, I got a lot of avoids, Adam.
Let me hit this up.
You want me to go by position?
Yeah.
As long as you don't, you know, talk five minutes better about player.
Sure.
Okay.
That's fine.
And that, that, that's noted, but zero, zero avoids at the quarterback position.
So we're going to move past that avoids at running back.
I'm not drafting any nausea Harris.
I don't like that price at all.
I'm not drafting every, any of Travis ETN. I hate the Travis ETN price. He's
a player who I didn't like as a prospect coming out. I watch him in his preseason game. Some of
the same issues that he had at Clemson. He bounces runs outside. I call it the Saquon Barkley factor,
just not a great processor from a running standpoint. Don't love the talent. Don't love
the situation with James Robinson back throwing a bunch of red dead zone backs for me.
Elijah Mitchell avoid, Cam Akers avoid,
David Montgomery avoid, Miles Sanders
avoid, Josh Jacobs avoid, Antonio
Gibson avoid. So we got a slew of guys
there. And as we move to receiver,
I'm not drafting Tyree Kill this year,
Adam. I don't know if you are. I'm not.
Okay, stop right there.
Deontay, I'm kind of with you.
It's always an at-cost thing and you're going to hear over the weekend, I already recorded this with Jacob Gibbs, the Tyreek Hill profile. I had not been drafting him, but we did a draft on Thursday. You were not in, I'm sorry, but me, Dave, Jamie Heath, and eight other industry people was our IDP league, and the IDPs don't start getting drafted until like round six
or something like that. I'll have to take a look, but I did draft Tyree kill for the first time.
I had the third pick. I went McCaffrey in round one, Justin Jefferson went around too,
by the way, we're actually going to talk about that later via an email. Uh, I took Keenan Allen
in round two. The next four picks were Javante Williams, Mark Andrews, DJ Moore, Michael Pittman.
And then I took Tyree kill in round three. I don't take him in round two, but I was fine Next four picks were Javante Williams, Mark Andrews, DJ Moore, Michael Pittman.
And then I took Tyree Kill in round three.
I don't take him in round two, but I was fine taking him there.
I took him ahead of A.J. Brown, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Cortland Sutton.
You know.
And I think Adam brings up a great point here.
When we say avoid, it doesn't mean we're not taking him no matter what.
It's avoid at KDP.
It's avoid at cost.
It's avoid at what we project them to go.
Where Adam got him, I would take him there too,
so I think that's fine,
but in most drafts, he is going higher.
Right.
I don't love him in round two,
but at the beginning of round three,
I was fine with,
I think he was wide receiver 12,
something like that,
in this draft.
Are you in on any of those dead zone backs I reeled off?
I feel like you always love a couple dead zones.
I'm just joking, by the way.
No, no.
I love A.J. Dillon.
I don't know if you mentioned him.
I didn't mention him.
No, I did not mention him.
Say them again.
Okay, here we go.
Let me get that list up because I have it all in my tears,
color-coded with the big red dead zone.
So the list includes Elijah Mitchell, David Montgomery, Miles Sanders.
I drafted him in round five yesterday.
You like Montgomery.
I love him in round five. I think he's fine in round four. I do not take him in round three.
Yeah. Who doesn't like the least talented guy in a backfield with the worst offense on a football?
I get it. Next, we got Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders also makes my list. Josh Jacobs.
You know, I'm a Josh Jacobs hater. I don't know if there's any round I take him in.
I think when you're going to say all these guys, I don't think... I'm joking, by the way,
about that. I would take these guys if they drop too far.
Yeah, I don't think Montgomery's
really, to me, in this group.
But I don't like
the ones that go first. So basically,
if I can build a solid
roster and
load up on wide receivers
and maybe like Dalton Schultz in
rounds four, five, six, and any of these guys are available around seven at that point, I mean,
I've got the core of my team. I don't really believe in dead zone. Once we get to round seven
in a 12 team league, I really feel like at that point, you've got the crux of your team,
unless you took a quarterback and a tight end in those picks. And maybe you want to build a little
bit more of your running back or more of
your wide receiver depth.
But at that point,
if any of those guys fall to round seven and many of them will,
I'm totally fine with it at that point,
round seven and a 12 team league.
So that's pick 73 or later,
especially miles Sanders.
I know he's already hurt.
Not to say that I like him better than Josh Jacobs.
I just think it's much more realistic that he'll be there around seven than
Josh Jacobs.
But I mean, I just, I'm loving the Eagles right now.
I think they're going to be really aggressive this year. They're absolutely loaded with talent.
They have arguably the best offensive line in football. So if I can get there starting running
back around seven, I understand there's downside, but basically any round seven pick other than a
quarterback is going to have downside. I'm fine with that. And I think, you know, that Adam,
cause the borders are bending last year. The dead zone was
one, maybe two, maybe honestly, three rounds higher. Like these guys weren't going in round
seven, the miles Gaskins and Mike Davis is the world. We're going round four out of necessity.
Now they've all been pushed down. The market is really adjusted to these types of backs and has
four. And like you said, I mean, once you get to round seven, I don't hate it. It becomes
outside the dead zone, I guess you could say in some ways. Um, but I just still find it probably
hard for me to not want to take a chance on a receiver there that I think has more upside.
Right. So I got to get those high upside receivers before I take those running backs. Uh, but,
but I do, I, we just did a draft with the listeners and there were some good values in
round seven and in round seven in the draft that the IDP went that I just mentioned,
looks like those running backs were kind of gone by then.
So round six was A.J. Dillon, Damian Pierce.
I think that's too early.
Clyde, I could be wrong about that, but I think it's too early.
Clyde Edwards-Elair, Kareem Hunt, Chase Edmonds.
Round seven was Tony Pollard, Ken Walker, Miles Sanders.
There he was, Miles Sanders, Ramondre Stevenson,
Damian Harris.
It looks like running backs went a little bit earlier
in this draft. All right. Anyone else?
Yeah, I'll close out with just the
last three guys on my
avoid list. It's TJ Hawkinson,
Dalton Schultz, and Zach Ertz,
the tight end group. And I don't want to
throw Darren Waller on this, but I kind of do
because I'm super weirded out by his entire offseason.
Missing days, comes back to practice and is out again the next day.
Had weird injuries last year as an older prospect in general who broke out at a late age.
And now it's Devante Adams with him alongside one of arguably the maybe five, six worst offensive lines in football.
Low key, no one's talking about it, but it could really screw the Raiders this year.
So I'm probably avoiding him too, but I'm definitely avoiding what I consider the
quote unquote, I'll term it this, Adam, the dead zone of tight ends, that middle tight ends.
When you start to use those round six through eight picks at tight end, instead of just using
your last round pick, because I just don't know if I see enough of a difference with the Hawkinson
Schultz hurts of the world versus the guy you're going to get in the last round at tight end,
or the guy you're going to pick off the waiver wire for matchups.
Yeah, I see it very differently. I know that a lot of waiver wire guys will end up being good.
That's not the best way to say it, but I've given this stat before. Over the last four years,
50% of the top five or six tight ends uh each year you know so
that's i don't remember what's top five or top six but half of them have been drafted in round
12 or later so it just happens all the time like logan thomas robert tunions of 2020 the dalton
schultz of 2021 uh but i like dalton schultz a lot in round six i was reading uh one beat writer
saying dalton schultz is going to catch a hundred
passes this year. He's very involved
right now. I like Dalton Schultz a lot in round six.
I did take him in that IDP draft
in round seven, actually.
Third pick of round seven.
Ertz is like
a round eight or nine
guy for me before
I have to dip into the unproven Cole Kometz.
Yeah, I just don't really agree. Actually, for me, I've been dip into the unproven Cole commits. Um,
I,
yeah,
I just don't really agree.
I actually,
for me,
I've been avoiding Kittle and Waller.
I just,
I mean,
yeah,
I don't know.
The,
the,
the players are passing up to get them at running back and receiver are just
too good.
And they have too many question marks to me.
If you do,
if you,
I mean,
what you said is,
is true.
One,
about 50% of those,
those tops,
uh, five, six tight ends come from undrafted, essentially, round 12 or later,
which is basically undrafted in a sense.
I mean, that's including a lot of free agents in there.
But also, historically, typically,
these round five through eight tight ends
have just not done well, historically.
I mean, we have a lot of examples in recent years.
So what makes you, is it just the guys specifically
you just really like these players?
Well, I really like Schultz.
Schultz, yeah. Okay, so it's Schultz.
And Mark Andrews did come out of that range last year.
So we've seen some success stories there.
I really like Schultz.
I like to wait longer on Goddard and Hawkinson.
I don't really like them at their ADP,
but I'm not opposed to taking them
because again, it's really, to me,
it's always about have I built the core of my team
at running back and wide receiver?
Not always, but often.
If I'm going to stray to tight end,
I want to feel good about my running backs
and wide receivers, at least my wide receivers,
because I could take Dalton Schultz around six and then grab miles Sanders around seven,
hopefully as an RB three, but maybe as an RB two, if I have like, you know, Jalen hurts,
you know what I'm saying? So, um, I just want to feel good about my team,
specifically a wide receiver, a little bit less so at running back. And then, you know,
and then I don't really care too much about ADP once I get into round seven, eight or whatever.
I'll just kind of take what I need because I do think you start to see the end of potentially great players.
I think what you're seeing for me, it's always about don't pass up potentially great players to fill a position.
You know, so once I feel like those great players are off the board,
I guess I'm just not as concerned, which is why I'm fine taking Zach Ertz.
I don't feel like when I take Zach Ertz in round eight or nine,
I don't feel like I'm passing up on potential superstars personally.
You're not, by the way.
Not superstars, yeah.
All right, that's it for that conversation.
Thank you, Dan Schneier.
We have an email of the day, which isn't a fun one.
Email of the day comes from John.
Why does Dan want to fight Adam so much?
The hate is palpable.
Can we have them battle in sumo suits or something?
Maybe an idea to raise money for charity.
That's something I'd do.
Yeah, go ahead.
I'd do that.
I would definitely do that for charity.
No problem. We should consider something for some kind of battle royale do that for charity. No problem.
We should consider something for some kind of battle Royale for charity for St. Jude right
here. We got another few weeks. Maybe we can craft it up, but there is no actual hate for Adam. I
actually really love the guy. He's a great person and he's done a really nice thing to help me get
me more involved in FFT. Now, as far as our shtick on the show goes, and it is just a shtick,
I want to say this because I have seen this from
Adam and I think he's cherry picking emails. I've seen from other listeners, people say,
Adam gives it back to you. All right. There was a live stream on Tuesday where Adam's like,
I like all the teams in this draft, except for Schneier. There were little comments made like
that throughout the draft. So just keep in mind, really consider, take a step back and think about
it. Is it really just me dishing it all out and Adam taking it?
Or is Adam doing some of the dishing and me doing a good job of taking it better maybe than Adam?
That's the question you have to ask yourself as we move forward.
I want everybody to know that I have construction going on at my house, and I'm currently inhaling – it smells like paint fumes right now.
Oh, the best of us.
So I don't quite know where i'm
gonna be this guy up salino and barnes i think it's just salino now that's a very good northeastern
america reference do you know what happened there i don't need to take too much time on this but
salino and barnes there's some weird weird circumstances surrounding barnes's death now
it's just salino oh i didn't know he died. I'm sorry to hear that. Barnes died in a plane crash, and it's just a little weird.
They worked together for a long time, and then Salino kind of takes over.
Yeah, so they're injury attorneys, 100-888-8888.
I could sing the song, but I'm not going to.
All right, anyway, here are your news and notes.
We talked about some of this on the Friday episode,
and we're recording this at Friday.
It is noon, so now I'm going to say afternoon, noon Eastern.
Bucs head coach Todd Bowles has no timetable for Tom Brady's return.
Your level of concern about the Bucs passing game right now?
This is a weird one, right?
Because it's Tom Brady. He's so old.
He almost retired and unretired this offseason.
But I think we'd have a little more smoke if that was even in play.
So I'm just not going to move these players down at all.
Have you downgraded them or have you kind of shied away from drafting any of them?
Not yet.
I think he'll be back.
And I don't think he needs any training camp.
So no, he definitely doesn't need that.
Deshaun Watson suspended 11 games.
He is required to comply
with a professional evaluation
and treatment plan.
And if he does not comply with that,
the suspension could get extended.
But we have no reason to think
it won't be 11 games,
which is 12 weeks in fantasy.
Matthew Stafford said
his elbow feels good.
Sean McVay did not say
that Stafford was completely pain-free.
But it does seem like
things are moving in the right direction there. And Jets head coach Robert Say did not say that Stafford was completely pain-free, but it does seem like things are moving in the right direction
there. And Jets head coach Robert
Sala did not rule out Zach Wilson for week
one. It is expected that
he will miss week one.
And who knows how much longer, but
it shouldn't be too, too long for
Zach Wilson. The scary thing there
is if you read all the beat reports coming out
of Jersey, the Jets offense is
moving better than it has the entire camp now with Flacco.
So that's the scary part.
It was better last year without Wilson.
And did we see a lot of Wilson in the first game?
No, it was a drive and a half, but he stunk.
Oh, my God.
Was it a bad drive and a half?
The interception he threw, he snapped the football,
turned completely to his right, stood there for a second and a half,
and then telegraphed a slant
that was just jumped by the linebacker easily.
I mean, he needs reps.
I mean, he overthrew a ball in the flat for five yards.
That was four yards over the receiver's head.
It was scary.
It's not a joke.
Go look at the tape.
He's not good right now.
Running back.
Melvin Gordon said the team wants Javante Williams
to be the guy, but that they will rotate.
I did talk about this on the Friday show. It seemed like Dave Jamie and he'd still don't want to take Javante
Williams in round two. Uh, Ramondre Stevenson continues to get some work in the passing game,
but Ty Montgomery is still ahead of him there. And Montgomery is definitely, you know, maybe in a PPR
league, your last pick, he might, he might get, you know know four catches or so he might get you eight points in
a pinch in ppr yeah and there's also a little bit more upside than that right because this james
white role has been an incredibly valuable fantasy role in ppr league someone is it might be like you
said it might be a bit of him a bit of stevenson we'll see but if it is one person that's a valuable
role for fantasy miles sanders missed another practice on Thursday with a hamstring injury.
Not sure about Friday, but he's nursing a hamstring injury.
Miles Sanders, James Robinson.
I did talk about this with Jamie.
Jamie's much higher on ETN than Dan is, for example,
but James Robinson looks like he's going to be ready for week one.
Florida times union thinks he'll be brought along slowly,
but eventually Robinson will be the lead running back for the Jaguars.
Jalen Warren is a name to know.
He's a rookie running back for the Steelers,
and he might be the number two guy there behind Najee Harris.
And the Athletic had a lot of stuff on the Bills offense.
At running back, it could be a three-man committee,
and that could be Zach Moss in short yardage.
So buyer beware on Devin Singletary,
which Dan has been saying for months
now. I want to add one thing. I did watch the Bills preseason. Zach Moss looks fresh. He looks
explosive. He looks better than I've seen him at really any point in the NFL. Reminded me a bit of
his college tape. Okay. Devin Singletary did not play in that game. Most of the starters basically
didn't. At wide receiver, Chiefs are a little beat up
with McCole Hardman and Juju Smith-Schuster,
but they're not serious injuries.
Some rookies to know who are having good camps,
Alec Pierce for the Colts,
and Kyle Phillips for the Titans.
Did you bring him up a couple weeks ago?
You did, right? Yeah, I did. I did.
I love Kyle Phillips.
Cooper Cup light.
Devontae Smith had a huge joint practice against Cleveland. Boy, I should have
said that differently. Sorry about that. Devante Smith was great during a joint practice against
Cleveland. And a reminder that Devante Smith still has the potential to be great. It's tough.
I don't really know how to evaluate them. It's so weird because how much pass volume
will there even be there? Can Jalen Hurts support two receivers in a heavy pass volume attack?
And the tight end.
They've got a lot of talent.
I mean, they are.
They should win the NFC East.
They should.
If Jalen Hurts really breaks out, they are Super Bowl contenders.
If he breaks out.
I mean, he really needs to be good.
Michael Pittman was a beast
during joint practices with the Lions.
Oh, yeah.
The Athletic, again, that article about the Bills,
there isn't much standing in the way
of both Stefan Diggs and Gabriel Davis
playing 90 plus percent of the snaps.
Ooh.
Yeah.
And just a tight end note there,
OJ Howard, according to Joe Biscaglia of the Athletic,
doesn't appear to be an immediate threat to Dawson Knox for playing time.
CeeDee Lamb, not practicing, should be back next week.
Michael Gallup ran routes for the first time since tearing his ACL on January 2nd.
And Kadarius Toney will not play this weekend, but he is participating in individual drills.
Two tight end notes, Austin Hooper of the Titans.
Seems like he's having a good camp.
And Ryan Tannehill's chemistry with Austin Hooper is building.
We're going to put him in the breakfast club.
That's the don't you forget about me club.
Austin Hooper.
And Minnesota tight end Irv Smith remains on track to play week one
despite a thumb injury.
You like that?
The breakfast club?
I like the motion you did with your arm while you were doing it.
You did like, yeah, yeah, don't you?
Well, you've seen the movie, right?
Unfortunately.
Yeah, it's always an awful movie.
I mean, I'm sure it was great in the 80s.
It's so overrated.
Why do people think that's such a good movie?
Because they grew up with it, and it was good then.
But it's so bad if you've never seen it before.
But at the very end, they do, you know,
what's his name?
That's like the payoff.
I was waiting for a payoff the entire movie.
I guess that was it.
Yeah.
The fact that you don't have to watch the movie anymore.
That's the payoff.
All right.
We'll take a quick break here.
Fantasy cops joining us when we come back.
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We do have a comment here
that I just want to read
from Jeff Stanley.
No worse entertainment takes
than Dan's.
I would have to agree with that.
Wow, Jeff.
What?
Can we talk about this a little more, Jeff?
I had a great take about...
Just don't put it back up, Adam. We saw it already.
It was already flashed on the screen once. That's all we needed.
Jeff, you need to reconsider this.
What are so bad about my entertainment takes? I had a great
take about Cheers. I mean, not
Cheers, but it was Frasier.
What else have I done? Frasier's not bad. Frasier's really not
bad. You didn't even know anything about Frasier.
You thought it took place in New York City.
I saw enough.
Great take, Dan.
Like a full house.
Let's follow Yuppie around and watch his life.
All right.
Back to the fantasy cops here.
Send us an email at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
Put fantasy cops in the subject.
I'll remember that, Jeff.
The first email comes from Tim Frost.
He says,
dear Charles,
Patrick,
Navarro,
and Fred linebackers on the 49ers.
Oh,
good.
That was good.
Way to go.
Help me make this help.
Make this make sense.
I'm in a keeper league where you keep two players a year
of the value you drafted them at.
It's a $200 salary cap draft with a $200 budget.
All right, so you keep two players
at the value you drafted them at,
and you add $5 each year.
The problem is that last year,
someone cut Christian McCaffrey,
and since he was taken off of waivers,
you can keep him at his ADP. is that last year someone cut Christian McCaffrey. And since he was taken off of waivers,
you can keep him at his ADP.
The way I assumed ADP worked was his average value of either last year or this year.
That makes sense.
The commissioner informed me that ADP
stands for average draft price for the position.
So he averaged the value of every running back drafted
and came to the number of $26 out of 200.
So by this logic,
even someone who wanted to keep Cordero Patterson
after getting him off of waivers
would have to pay $26.
I seem to be the only one
who seems to think that this rule is ridiculous.
Am I taking crazy pills?
Please help me make sense of this.
No, you're not taking crazy pills. This is a horrific rule. And you need to readjust.
You need to talk to the commissioner and readjust how he does his auction. There's a very simple way
to do it. You can do it where you draft the players and they go up by a percentage every
year. That's how we do it. They go up by 25% for the first year, round it up and 50%. Now,
as far as free agents go, we add a just a flat rate of plus $10 to any free
agent pickup. But if a player like Christian McCaffrey is dropped, we have a rule in place,
which is fixes this whole problem you have, which is essentially any player cannot be kept for less
than their original draft price. Either it's the higher of either original draft price or the free
agent price, because you don't want a situation where now somebody is keeping Christian McCaffrey
for $26 and it's screwing up your entire auction for no reason, just because you don't want a situation where now somebody's keeping Christian McCaffrey for $26 and it's screwing up your entire auction for no reason just because you didn't have any rules
in place. Well, there has to be a specific rule about what happens with players on weight. Yes.
Yeah. I mean, that's just, that has to be there, but there isn't in this case.
So what do we do here? What do you do? No, there is, there is a rule. There is a rule. The rule
is it's the average, it's the ADP, which he thought would be the average of McCaffrey's last two ADPs,
average draft price,
but instead it's the average of every running back.
I don't even know, man.
No, it's got to be McCaffrey's price.
How could you think that every...
The original draft price is fine.
Right, plus $5.
Plus $5 or whatever.
How could the commissioner think that the average of every running back
would make sense for a waiver wire guy?
Right?
Yeah.
It's just wild.
It's a bad rule.
Jason in Saskatoon.
Deer, Riggs, Murtaugh, McLean, and Traven.
Ooh, I don't know...
No shot on that one.
I don't know who Traven is.
You don't know who
Riggs and Murtaugh are?
No.
Who are they?
Lethal Weapon.
Yeah, you know
I don't do movies.
Oh, okay.
So we should definitely
take your...
So we should take
entertainment advice
from the guy who's...
But I've seen every
elite show in the history
of the book and have...
You know I don't
take movies.
Yeah, I'm a TV guy.
TV is the better... TV is by far away the better medium.
I feel like...
The Wire is the greatest show of all time.
You're right.
If you're on fantasy football today,
you need to have seen Lethal Weapon and Die Hard.
All right, I'll watch them.
I've seen Die Hard.
All right, good.
That's great.
Not on Christmas.
Lethal Weapon's great too, by the way.
I have a league issue.
The day before our Superflex Dynasty auction...
Salary cap.
Startup draft, a manager said he couldn't make it.
We didn't have anyone to draft for him,
so we attempted to auto-draft.
The auto-draft dropped his whole budget
on Kyler, Jefferson, Gervonta, and Najee Harris. The rest of his 25-man
roster, that's a lot of people, by the way. It's a dynasty auction startup. The rest of his 25-man
roster, scrubs. We offered him half-price buy-in for the next five years of the league, but when
he saw his team, he quit the league. I don't know that we can find someone to take over the team.
What options do we have? Oh my gosh, this is such a disaster in so many ways. First of all, for those who don't know,
now you've learned you cannot do an auto drafter for auction or for salary cap drafts. You have to
have everyone there because the auto drafter just bids up every of the, all the big beginning
players. They run out of budget. It's just like a simple computer algorithm that doesn't have any
nuance to it. So start with that. Now, secondly,
if this guy wasn't gonna be able to make your salary cap draft, you should have either redone
the draft or found someone before the draft. They couldn't. He gave him one day notice.
Yeah. And then you just have to reschedule the draft. I mean, this is a terrible move by the
guy giving one day notice and then deciding to quit after not liking his auto drafted team.
He should have found someone to draft for him. But now what do you do now that you're in this
position? That's the tough part. No one's going to probably want to take this orphan team.
Having said that, you are putting out a good offer here. I mean, five years,
a half price is pretty damn pretty good. So I'd say, you know, try to reach out to people first,
but I don't know what's going to happen here. I would say give him three years at no price,
but don't make him eligible to win the pot.
Like,
you know,
let him play,
but he can't,
or maybe just if he wins,
he gets 10%.
He's not going to win.
But I'm with that is it does change the entire fabric of the league because he'll now
be incentivized to sell off all
of his players because he doesn't need to win at all for those
first three years. He's not even paying.
He can just trade, trade, trade for the future.
But this team needs to do that anyway.
Yeah, but then he's not paying for
the three years of bad and then he just has a loaded
team when he enters the league. For what?
For missing the draft and notifying his
league a day before he gets a reward?
The penalty is he doesn't really get the penalty.
Alright, fine.
No reward. I gotta send
this over to the FBI because the fantasy cops, I just
have nothing. I got nothing here. I got nothing.
This is really tough. This
sucks, but yeah, I think
your offer was fair. You could consider
letting him in for free. He's
not going to win the league.
That's an option.
I mean, there's no way
this team is going to win.
So you could just say,
all right, play for free.
But after a few years,
you got to pay.
You know?
All right.
Yep.
Let's thank the Fantasy Cops.
Thank you, Fantasy Cops,
for your help.
And thank you all for your emails.
FantasyFootball at CBSi.com.
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Dear Cooper, Calvin, Chris, and Stefan.
Cooper Cup, Calvin Johnson,
Stefan Diggs.
I don't know.
They're wide receivers.
Chris Carter.
I think the industry is under... No?
Nah, just go on, go on.
I think the industry is underrating Mike Williams.
He finished top 12 last year.
He's in a pass-heavy offense
with a top quarterback in the league. No tight tight end no true third wide receiver to take targets the only one
standing in his way to be a lead is an agent keenan allen who's 30 now when looking for
breakouts mike williams is the perfect one to take over guys like pittman more aj brown um
yeah that's the question that's the comment yeah i love this mean, I'm a big fan of Mike Williams as well.
I have him in my green, which is my target list.
I think you nailed it here.
To add a little more context to this,
Keenan Allen's yards per outrun have now dropped in three consecutive years.
It was an all-time low last year.
I want to throw that.
And this offense still has more room to grow.
They have what, in my opinion, is the most talented young quarterback in the NFL,
save for maybe Patrick Mahomes.
And I'll say save for, yes, Patrick Mahomes, but with it, an offensive line, that's
only improving. They drafted Zion Johnson, the best offensive lineman in this entire draft class.
I think overall, maybe, maybe you can put those tackles ahead of him, but man, he's hit the ground
running at guard and he's been awesome. So I love everything about the director here. Now,
Williams had a weird season, Adam, like he was amazing at first and probably above that even wide receiver 12 range, then tailed off and picked it back up.
So consistency might always be kind of an issue for him, but they are using him on different
routes than they ever used him before Herbert and Lombardi got there. So now he's being used
on more slants, more in breakers, more of those high percentage routes that are quick, easy
completion. So I think he has more PPR upside than he had in his profile earlier in his career. So
I'm with you, man. I love Williams as a breakout type. What you said about the routes is everything
to me. I've talked about this in the first five games of the season. He was the number two wide
receiver in fantasy. He had 82 or more yards in four or five games. Number two wide receiver in fantasy
with a one for 11 game against the Raiders in week four.
Two fantasy points.
After that, he was not a top 40 wide receiver.
And the big difference is the ADOT.
If they're going to use him on different routes,
which they did at the beginning of the year,
I'm sorry if you've heard this a million times,
then Mike Williams is going to be awesome.
If he's just going to be a downfield guy,
mostly a downfield guy, then he's going to be awesome. If he's just going to be a downfield guy, mostly a downfield guy,
then he's going to be inconsistent. So that's a big question.
I'm starting to feel like I was way too low on him and should try to try to draft him a little bit more because he is going to get a ton of targets.
He had 129 and 16 games last year.
So he could definitely get 140 targets this year.
And I also could see Justin Herbert. I was thinking about this.
I haven't drafted Justin Herbert. I was thinking about this. I haven't drafted Justin Herbert.
I probably won't draft Justin Herbert.
Not because it's him just because I don't take the second or third
quarterback off the board.
Typically it just wouldn't surprise me if he threw 50 touchdowns,
5,300 yards,
won the MVP.
He's so good.
Uh,
and Mike Williams could definitely benefit from that.
Okay.
Next question.
Losing my voice here, breathing in paint fumes benefit from that. Okay, next question. Losing my voice here.
Breathing in paint fumes.
I apologize.
This is from Cody.
I'm having trouble differentiating
between a tier of Mike Evans, DJ Moore,
Michael Pittman, and AJ Brown.
And I'll just leave it at that.
How do you differentiate?
It is a tough tier.
It's a great tier.
Evans, Moore, Pittman, Brown.
Yeah, okay.
I'll try to differentiate them a little bit.
I think the floor play here will and should always be Evans and DJ Moore.
DJ Moore has proven that he earns targets,
and he's going to have a high reception count.
And I think he gets a little bit of a quarterback upgrade.
Evans is the flip side of that.
He's not as much of a target earner but he is maybe one two one of the two three best red zone wide receiver
artists in the NFL he's going to get touchdowns he gets them every year so I think they have the
floor now you have more of the ceiling plays right here with Michael Pittman who we haven't seen it
really but he's having an unreal camp and is a talent I love coming out of draft and does
probably have an upgrade with Matt Ryan but I think you can argue that the ceiling might be a
little overstated out. I'm curious to get your take on that because this still is a run first
team that operates through Jonathan Taylor. It's not like it's a super high pass line team. I know
the target should be funneled in his direction. I get that, but at the same time that is in mind,
but then you have AJ Brown, who obviously is the highest ceiling wall. He's the best talent of this group, in my opinion. If Jalen Hurts takes that
big step, then AJ Brown could take that step too. But I actually feel like AJ Brown has the lowest
floor. He's a player I'm not drafting too much of because my thoughts on this, Adam, is Jalen Hurts
already has the rapport with Devante Smith from last year. Is there a non-zero chance in my mind
that Devante Smith could at least earn the same, maybe more of a target share than AJ Brown? For me, the answer is yes. The
rapport is already there. I know that sounds crazy, but that's just how I see it. And AJ
Brown also has some troubling injury history. I mean, he's had multiple procedures done on the
lower body that no one's talking about now, but they've cropped up in every season. So he would
be the highest floor ceiling guy for me. So how would you rank them?
So I would personally rank that group one Pittman,
two more, three Evans, four Brown.
But I know that's unorthodox.
Brown is typically the highest ranked.
I'd probably go more Evans, Pittman, Brown.
Okay.
I don't think any of them should go past the 30th pick.
They're all really good.
They could go as early as late round two in a 12-team league,
and I don't think they should make it past the middle of round three.
I mean, going back to our last question,
I might put Williams over all of them.
I don't know.
I like Williams a lot.
Just think about Williams in that sense.
He's going later, obviously.
But do you definitely like those four over Williams?
Yes.
But I could definitely see myself being wrong.
Because Keenan Allen?
Yeah, because of Keenan Allen and because of Mike Williams.
The one thing that scares me about Mike Williams is Corey Davis and Devontae Parker.
They did the same exact thing.
They had huge years in their contract years.
And they were both first-round NFL draft picks.
And they had their best season.
And then they got new deals.
Well, Davis got a huge deal from the Jets.
I guess Parker probably got a new deal too, right?
Because he got traded to the Patriots.
I don't think he ever got a new deal, no.
He never got a new deal.
He must have.
Because this is. But anyway,
first-round wide receivers
going in their contract year
explode, huge season,
and didn't live up to it the next year.
I don't know.
I really like that take from you, Adam,
because they also have a lot of similarities
in their profile.
They all have an injury history,
and they're all receivers who win
with contested catch situations and their body strength and you know control things
like that in the air body control less than like kind of like speed and separation right right um
so the guy that you said mike williams the guy for me that jumps in this tier is courtland sutton
oh i love sutton too but i'm not gonna lie you. I don't feel strongly about any one of those guys.
I think they're all really damn good.
They're all great picks.
Don't be afraid to take two of them.
And I could sit here and say,
oh yeah, DJ Moore is my favorite,
but he could be last in this group.
It wouldn't surprise me at all.
It's a great tier and you should be dipping in it.
From Sosa80,
17 team guillotine superflex tight end premium.
Wow.
Any advice for this?
Let me look at it.
Let me think about it.
17-team guillotine superflex.
My advice here is if you can get one of the only,
you know, you get one of those three tight ends,
if you have any opportunity to get one of Kelsey Andrews or pits,
do it.
So start with that.
Other than that draft quarterbacks draft three,
get three,
no matter what super flex.
So you're going to need to,
if you can get three,
get three,
get two for sure.
Your first three should be.
Yeah.
Okay.
Your first three or four,
but if you don't get one of those,
those elite tight ends, I'm kind of okay waiting, but you you don't get one of those, those elite tight ends,
I'm kind of okay waiting,
but you got to get the quarterbacks.
It's their 17 team league.
There's only 32 that start every week.
So there's in this draft,
like Adam,
I don't know if I would take Christian or whoever you want to say,
Jonathan Taylor at all for the first 24 picks.
I don't know if he'd be in my range.
I just don't know that there's value to like having him.
Cause you're going to, if you don't take him you take a quarterback you're still gonna get like
joe mixon or something like that yeah i can't really give guillotine advice because you know
there's gonna be great players on the waiver wire every single week basically that's true too
um i wouldn't stray too far from a typical super flex tight end premium strategy just because it's
guillotine put it that way but 17 team league you know that's that's tough
so i'd take advantage of the depth at quarterback and you know i probably for me deeper leagues
deeper leagues i i go a little more running back heavy just because they're they're so hard to find
on waiver wire however like i said it is a guillotine league so they'll be on the waiver
wire every week but you're competing against so many other people. All right, from B Cox 25,
three receiver PPR league. Am I crazy to like Justin Jefferson third overall behind McCaffrey
and Jonathan Taylor? Not at all. I've made the case before that if you love a breakout wide
receiver, your number one wide receiver in full point PPR. I've made the
case that there is an argument to me. He should be going number one overall. Just look at what
Cooper cup did last year in full point PPR scoring. And this is the type of season we're
talking about. This is obviously how you feel about Justin Jefferson this year. And I get it.
The breakout could be coming, but if you look at what cup did last year from an overall scoring
standpoint at full point PPR, he was the number one player, right? He was the number one pick
and he was the person you wanted on your team.
So I think the case can be made. You can take
him at three. You can take him at one. You can take him at two.
If you feel this strongly about Jefferson, it's easy to see
why I like it.
Yesterday in the IDP League we did,
which is a three receiver PPR League.
Don't even worry about the IDP factor. I'm just calling it
the IDP League.
Joe Pisapia, fantasy pro, took Justin Jefferson second. I had the thirdP factor. I'm just calling it the IDP League. Joe Pisapia of Fantasy Pros took Justin Jefferson second.
I had the third pick, so I was thrilled to get McCaffrey,
but he took Jefferson second, and his team ended up like this.
Josh Allen, Javante Williams, Kareem Hunt,
Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, Jalen Waddle.
Pretty damn good so far.
Irv Smith is his tight end, and Austin Hooper on the bench. Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, Jalen Waddle. Pretty damn good so far. Yeah.
Irv Smith is his tight end, and Austin Hooper on the bench.
He also has, because he's a little weak at running back,
with Javante and Kareem Hunt.
He has Tony Pollard, Hunter Renfro, Tony Pollard is a bad guy.
He only has four running backs.
Kadarius, Tony, Hunter Renfro, Sky Mortimer.
So basically, Josh Allen, Javante Williams, Kareem Hunt,
Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, Jalen Waddell,
Irv Smith.
Starting lineup.
Pretty good.
Okay.
All right.
Let's go to Joe from a suburb of Detroit.
And he said,
Go Giants!
Adam is the best host ever.
And that's how you get your question read on the show.
Keeper question. PPR 10 teams.
Keep one for this year and next year.
Justin Jefferson in the third,
Debo Samuel in the ninth,
and Michael Pittman in the 12th.
Full PPR 10 team league.
Okay, so we're picking,
you can keep one of them?
Yep, for this year and next year.
This is tough.
This is always tough for me because it's so funny. have to make decisions between justin jefferson the third
which is just so fun and awesome but then you're just giving up so much value with debo in the
ninth and pitman in the 12th i think for me it's pitman adam oh i was gonna say debo in the ninth
i mean we i think you know some of us have pitman ranked ahead of Debo. I would take Debo.
But in full PPR,
I guess there's honestly not a big difference
between the ninth and the 12th round in a full PPR league,
in a 10-team league.
I wouldn't worry about that value,
so I guess I would take the wide receiver.
I would not take Jefferson.
I would take Debo or Pittman, whoever you like better.
Same.
This is from another Jamie from a small town in southwest Montana.
I couldn't tell you.
Superflex.
He said because my mom wanted a girl, too.
Yeah, the name of Jamie.
Superflex redrafts a six-point-per-passing touchdown.
There are some bonuses here.
With the first pick in a super flex league,
do I go...
What kind of quarterbacks?
All right. So he's got
five point bonus for 300 to
399 passing yards.
And a 10 point bonus for 400 plus
passing yards in a game.
So he's got the first pick.
Does he go with the Brady, Stafford, Carr,
Burrow types?
Or the more rush heavy guys,
Alan Lamar types?
Wow.
Yeah,
I think,
I think what he's trying to say is,
look,
does it,
does the,
do these bonuses offset some of the gain that you get from the rushing type
quarterbacks?
I think,
and I think the answer is yes,
but I think you can still take a player like Josh Allen one,
one with this pick because Josh Allen comes from the bills offense and all
they care about doing is throwing.
They threw the ball on in neutral situations more than any team last year.
They are just a team that doesn't care that much about running the ball.
And even drafting James cook this year,
that means dump offs.
That's those are count as passes.
So I still go with Allen here,
but I can make the case for Herbert.
I would say Herbert.
Yeah,
I would take Herbert here.
I think he might throw for like five,
600 more yards,
might have one or two more 300 yard games.
That's two more games
where he has five more fantasy points.
That's what I would do.
But yeah, this really hurts Lamar Jackson.
Yes, it does.
Wild scoring.
Okay, from Joe.
Joe needs keeper help. We get a lot of Midwestwest entries yeah we do interesting i'm i'm i appreciate that i went to school in the midwest so i love all you people out there some of the
nicest people in the world adam i know i went to st louis and they were the nicest people
really ever okay joe says which three do you keep in a half ppr league 10th overall pick so justin jefferson
in round one justin herbert in round six leonard fournette in round eight travis etn in round 15
easy half ppr throwback herbert you get three throwback throwback her Yeah, you throw back Herbert. All right, this is from Grant. Yeah, you throw back Herbert.
Grant says,
DSTs.
Based on early strength of schedule,
which DST should we be targeting this year?
Well, I do like the Titans in week one.
They have the Giants.
And then they have the Bills,
so I wouldn't go with them.
If we're looking for two good matchups to start the year,
Baltimore has the Jets and the Dolphins.
That's probably not good enough.
How about Carolina?
Carolina has Cleveland and the Giants to start the year,
and then the Saints.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, that's really not bad.
Cleveland has Carolina and the Jets.
That's not terrible.
Denver has Seattle and Houston,
and they're just really good anyway.
So there are three names for you.
What did I say?
I said Carolina, Cleveland,
and Denver.
I like them. Those are all good matchups.
And Drew is in a $200
PPR Keeper League.
Four points for passing touchdown.
Keep three. Javante for 28. Waddle for nine. Trey Lance for League. Four points for passing touchdown. Keep three.
Javante for 28.
Waddle for nine.
Trey Lance for seven.
Gabe Davis for five.
I am going with Javante, Waddle, and Davis.
Me too.
And a couple more here from Carl.
And that's funny because me and Adam love Lance,
but just in a one QB league, we just can't do it.
From Carl, my home league is two running back,
two wide receivers, and a flex.
It is non-PPR, four point per passing touchdown.
What is your strategy in this format?
I usually load up on running back,
but I haven't done so well in this league lately.
I used to dominate it.
Yeah, Carl, look, this will be a good discussion for me and Adam because look it's
the two receiver format which Adam has talked about at length how he likes to not go receivers
earlier in this format it is non-PPR it seems to scream go running back but I don't know I still
feel like I went straight too far from my draft board and my overall players here. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. You don't want to take, you don't want to take, say,
James Conner over Mike Evans,
I would say.
Or maybe that's not the greatest example.
You don't want to take...
I know what you're saying.
You don't want to push up
the Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders of the world.
Yeah, think about a PPR draft.
If there's a running back
that's going two or three rounds
behind a wide receiver,
you still should not take him ahead of that wide receiver in a non-ppr draft like don't don't move
running backs up that much you know you need good wide receivers i would go running back heavy i
would have two running backs my first three picks for sure but we're not for sure but most likely
but yeah i mean don't don't go too crazy and finally finally, from, bless you, from BD531,
Keeper, Keeper?
Keeper question in a PPR league,
two wide receivers and two flexes.
Would you take T. Higgins in round six
or Jalen Hurts in round 12?
Keeper league, regular, no super flex.
I'm taking T. Higgins.
Let's read some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
This one comes from
Matt Smith. I haven't heard you talk too much about these players. Do you think that Davis
Mills and Brevin Jordan could take big leaps in year two? Davis Mills and his tight end,
Brevin Jordan from the University of Miami. Yeah, I like this call here because Davis Mills
is a quarterback who is much better than people realized last year as a rookie. We look at all
these rookie seasons.
We give excuses for everyone, Zach Wilson, whoever it may be.
Mills didn't need those excuses.
He didn't have anything around him.
And yet we had Brandon cooks besides Brandon cooks.
And despite that, he put together some really good tape.
He throws a really good ball.
He processes better than most of these young quarterbacks.
And I kind of like him too, especially with pep Hamilton over there.
Um, and then finally Brevin Jordan, this is probably the profile I think you want for these light
tight end stashes because he's hyper athletic, uber athletic type prospect. Those are typically
the typical breakouts rather than kind of these slow lumbering tight ends who seem to be getting
a lot of snaps. So they move up your, maybe like the Robert Tunyon types I'm thinking of. So yeah,
I do kind of like targeting the athletic type of guys for late round tight
end stashes.
He was the number one tight end prospect in college and he was a late
draft pick.
You mean going into college?
Going into college.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
From high school.
Yeah.
He,
yeah.
Cause he's in the same class as Kyle Pitts.
Same NFL draft class.
I don't know.
I don't know if he's the number one in the college.
Yeah.
Same NFL draft class. I don't know if he was in the the number one in the college. Yeah, same NFL draft class.
I don't know if he was in the same high school class.
But yeah, Brevin Jordan was a great prospect.
Had a really good career, but he's small.
So that's why he fell in the draft.
He's not going to be a blocker.
But yeah, I think he could definitely
enter the streaming discussion for sure.
I don't think he's going to be a must-start guy.
But maybe.
You never know.
Remember, half the top five tight ends
are round 12 or later.
This is from...
What's your name? John in Ohio. five tight ends around 12 or later. This is from...
What's your name? John in Ohio.
Alright, so we don't grade drafts
very often, but
let's see how John did
from the 12 spot. Do you like this
team? It is a 2QB
league. Two wide receivers,
two running backs, tight end, and a flex.
I would love it
in a 1QB league. I am so confused by how Burrow i would love it in a one qb league i'm so confused
by how burrow's going this late and this is not a 2qb league and where did he he must have done
a typo here because he didn't he didn't draft a second qb he drafted fields oh fields never mind
this is great you get burrow and fields this late no chance you'd be league there's no way you can
you uh reach out to me please joe and let me know if there's any openings in this league.
Joe Burrow was his eighth round pick, I think.
So let's pretend this is a one QB league,
because actually when I read this email,
I thought it was a one QB league
and would be more helpful for people.
So how do you feel about this team from the 12 spot?
Because I think he crushed it.
Mixon and Kelsey.
That's my kind of team.
Yeah.
Mixon, Kelsey, A. my kind of team. Yeah. Mixon, Kelsey,
AJ Brown,
and Sutton.
Now here's where I would have done something different.
Michael Thomas and Alan Robinson.
I just don't see why you need to go with a fourth wide receiver there instead of a second.
Oh no,
Adam.
A second.
You're not even,
you're not,
don't even tell me you're still,
you're,
you're building your flex.
Cause you know,
this,
that guy's a bench player for you. You can only start at three wide receivers. And I'm, you're not, don't even tell me you're, you're, you're building your flex. Cause you know, this, that guy's a bench player for you.
You can only start at three wide receivers.
And I'm,
you're looking at this too,
but look,
it's not just about getting that starting lineup set for week one.
There's injuries.
There's by,
yes,
no kidding.
People that don't break out.
That's why you need more running back.
No,
you're going to find running backs on the wire.
Heinz gain.
Well, you could throw those guys in any game.
No,
I don't know.
Well, maybe Heinz, but no, no, I don't could throw those guys in any game. No, I don't know.
Well, maybe Hines.
No, I don't agree with you on a half PPR league.
Well, he did get Chase Edmonds.
All right, all right.
Sorry, I'll keep reading it.
I love this game.
This is an A.
Mixon, Kelsey, A.J. Brown, Cortland Sutton,
Michael Thomas, Allen Robinson,
Chase Edmonds, James Robinson,
Joe Burrow.
I didn't even see James Robinson. Yeah, James Robinson's a great pick.
Let's go.
Naeem Hines is a great one.
All right, but I want to know which tight end was available
when you took Allen Robinson.
If Dalton Schultz were there.
They all stink.
No, they don't.
If Dalton Schultz were there,
I don't see why you take a fourth wide receiver there.
Dalton Schultz over Allen Robinson?
Absolutely.
Oh, my God.
Well, that's actually a tough sell.
It was a tough sell.
Absolutely.
I mean, that's a great value for Allen Robinson.
Wow.
Yeah, he did a great job.
This team is so stacked.
It's a good job.
All right, from Joe.
He's got a friendship strategy suggestion.
Friendship strategy is taking two wide receivers
on the same team.
The thought is they both have, independently,
they're both good values where you took them,
but one of them, if something happens to the other one,
one of them could be a star.
And even if one of them ends up being a bust,
it's still worth it to take two of them
because you have one must-start player.
So he is suggesting Juju Smith-Schuster in the sixth round and mvs in the 11th round or later i think it's a good call
yeah we call it wide receiver handcuffing um that's basically what this is it's similar to
the running back handcuffing in a sense you're you're really banking on the injury because i
mean you're right you could still get value out of these guys probably especially in a good offense
but there's a there's a better chance that one will break out one will bust and you're giving yourself less of a
chance or more of a chance of that i guess but at the same time like you said if there's an injury
you just hit a first round you know top three round receiver with a six round pick you're right
and i wouldn't say it's a little different than handcuffing just because handcuffs often
have have no value you know you're not going to that guy. He's going to get almost no touches.
MVS, you could start him.
He might be better than Juju.
I don't think he will.
He might be.
He might be.
Juju's knee acting up again is scaring me.
Sure.
And he certainly might be better than Sky Moore, who's going ahead of him.
He's not even practicing with the first team right now.
This is from Sean.
Now that home leagues are going to start drafting soon,
I was wondering about some names you don't typically talk about.
I found that a good chunk of casual players
will read a couple sleeper breakout bus columns
and ignore that it's usually ADP.
You're right.
What happened there?
You're muted.
You muted your mic, whatever you just dropped. Sorry, a little technical error. Also, you've got you muted your mic whatever you just dropped all right
little technical error i also you got to fix your mic settings we're back we're back we're going
we're good we go it knocked you off your microphone you're using your computer mic now
so no i'm on the i'm on the good mic now all right uh anyway that was great i found a good
chunk of casual players will read a couple sleeper breakout bus columns and ignore that it's usually ADP value-based and sometimes pushes guys down a few rounds
and inflates the prices of others.
So who are some guys that you aren't overly excited to draft at their current value that
you would be pretty happy about getting a round or two later?
Interesting.
Yeah.
Not excited about their current value, you get them around or two later and
you're happy so let's say i mean you you brought one up the beginning tyreek hill you probably feel
that way about him um i would say a couple other guys i'd add to that giovante williams i don't
love him at his adp we've discussed that in length why it's just a big price to pay for someone
without a full workload but if he if other people are feeling that way and he drops, that's definitely a player who comes to mind for me, Adam. Um, I would say
the same can be said maybe about a player like JK Dobbins. I don't love him at his current value,
but if he continues to drop, it's another guy I could get on board with there. Let's see who else
would fit the bill there. Um, yeah, for me it's, it's, uh, Elijah Mitchell. I think everyone's
going to get off of him and he's already injured, but I think he's going to have a solid season when he's healthy. So if he sneaks into like round eight, I think Elijah Mitchell. I think I had one. Jerry Judy. No, I think he's going to end up going higher. I was going to say somebody. It'll come to me. But I'm trying to think of people that might get pushed down
for one reason or another.
Maybe they're on a bus.
Oh, TJ Hawkinson.
I don't really like TJ Hawkinson, but he's going 69th overall.
He's a round six pick.
There's no chance I would take him.
But round eight, I'll take Hawkinson.
So that's one guy.
I definitely won't be using any round eight picks on Hawkinson this year, I don't think. All right. And that's it for our
podcast questions. We have a few minutes left. YouTube, what's going on, YouTube? Send in your
questions. And can we get somebody to audit how Adam picks the questions? I feel like he picks
the comments that he really does like to cherry pick these
comments. Before we had one about how
awful my entertainment takes were.
Come on, Adam.
Just all questions or should I pick
good ones? Here's one from
Jeff.
If you're going to do the teammate
strategy, the friendship strategy, would you go with
Juju and Sky more or Juju and MVS?
Juju and Sky for go with Juju and Sky more or Juju and MVS? Juju and Sky for me.
Juju and Sky more. Okay. How about from Nitty Nasty? Superflex, half PPR, 10 team league,
sixth pick. Do I go quarterback with my first pick and second pick or quarterback then running back?
Yeah, this is the, I think like just thinking back to like scott
fishbowl and other super flexes you can't afford to go with the top running back with that second
pick i did that a few other teams have done that and then you're still going to get a decent
quarterback coming back around it won't it'll probably be past that trey lance range it'll
probably be into like the next range like the derrick carr range but it kind of depends how
you want your build you want that next tier of running back or you want the next year of quarterback i would go with i would go with the run the top running back
and then take the the whatever's left that quarterback yeah i took uh well i took jonathan
taylor six i know you still got you still got um what's his you still got right stafford stafford
was my qb2 okay i can't remember who my QB one was. I think it was Russell Wilson.
No,
this was a mock draft.
We did.
I had the six pick and I took Taylor in round one,
Russell Wilson or something like that around two and Stafford around three.
And I was really happy.
But the thing is,
that was a 12 team league.
This is a 10 team league.
I do not think you need to take a running,
a quarterback in round one.
If Jonathan Taylor is there in round one,
I would take him,
because I think you'll get two good quarterbacks.
But if you know your league better than I do,
obviously, maybe it's crazy quarterback heavy.
But I think you'll be able to get someone
in the Derek Carr, Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rodgers range,
maybe Kirk Cousins in round three.
From Jonathan, I have
Jefferson as a third round keeper. Should I
target Dalvin Cook as a running back
or Adam Thielen in later rounds?
Does having Jefferson make you
any more likely to take another Viking?
No, to be honest.
The only other person who would make me more likely to take
is Kirk Cousins for the stack.
From John Edwards, where would you take Alvin Kamara right now?
I feel like the FFT team is kind of split on Kamara, right? Some of us are so much higher
than others. I am somewhere in the middle, I think, right now with Kamara. I'd probably take
a mid two. What about you, Adam? Oh, I think. Is that high? I'm late first. Okay. Chris Harris
was on the other day,
and he thinks he should be a top five pick,
top five, top six, or at least he's justifiable,
and I agree.
What was his case?
He's Alvin Kamara.
He's the lead running back.
I think the only case against Kamara
is that he had four games last year
where he played fewer than 70% of the snaps,
and they were the only four games he played
with Mark Ingram.
But the more I think about it, I mean, Mark Ingram, I think, is 32 years old.
Is he really going to be the reason that Alvin Kamara isn't great?
You know, Dave brought it up.
He had his highest.
In the games he played with Jameis Winston last year,
Alvin Kamara, according to Dave, had a higher target share
than his career-high target share.
Drew Brees days? Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now Michael Thomas wasn't playing,
and Chris Olave wasn't playing,
and Jarvis Landry wasn't playing.
Right, right, right.
But he's still, I think he's a 60-catch guy,
and I think he's going to be good,
but I'm not going to take him in the top five
because I've seen him,
I've seen Alvin Kamara without the touchdowns one year,
that one year,
like three years ago.
And he was not a top five player,
but,
and,
and,
and,
and he was always on these amazing offenses,
but that,
that year,
the offense wasn't as good,
whatever.
But so,
or that year,
he just didn't score the touchdown.
So basically I think he won't have the same type of touchdown upside he
used to have.
So that pushes him down.
Late round one for me, mid round two for Dan.
Okay.
Should I keep from Phillip?
Javante Williams in the fifth or Cam Akers in the 14th?
I don't like Akers, but Akers in the 14th.
The value is just too good.
All right.
This one's from Quad.
Do we like Mike Davis?
No.
No, but if Gus Edwards starts the year on the pup list,
there's something
there. He'll probably get a few
carries.
He might get like eight carries. You never know.
Let's see.
Deep Dynasty
Superflex. Flacco or Dalton?
Flacco.
At least you might get some starts out of him.
Hey, Dan.
Oh, it's Dynasty too.
Wow.
In your auction draft tip video with Chris Towers,
you spoke on a three-core player draft strategy.
With three wide receivers,
how many of the three are wide receivers for you
in a half PPR league?
Also, Adam, great hair day.
That seems sarcastic.
Well, you know what? The first comment you ever made to me on when I made like one of my first or second FFT appearance, he's like, wow, Dan Schneier with the horrible hair, a terrible
haircut, terrible hair. I think I said, I think I said you were the only person who has sloppier
hair than me. Right. And can we get some kind of some guys, guys and girls take to the comments from this pod and
for the next one on who has better hair who has less sloppy hair me or adam i don't know that's
two different questions that's two different questions look at this just look at this
beautiful head of hair and then look at that just take a quick look at this and then look at that
yeah that's all i need to say oh yeah i have sloppier hair but i also have better hair
that's not better hair i
better hair than you better hair the jufro you like the jufro who likes the jufro what do you
think what do you think you have 10 years what do you think you have you have a jufro too this is
not a jufro this is nice and straight and wavy get out of here look at that look at that thing
that is nowhere close i need to make i'm due for a haircut. Okay. So this isn't really
fair. You're catching me at my worst. I've never seen it better, but let me answer this question
right now. Um, yeah, you can go all three and a half point PBR. I do feel like if you want to,
you can go all three. It's a little risky. I'd probably, probably my, my build wouldn't be that
I like the hero running back build. So one of my three is always a running back. And then I have
like two receivers.
But typically I will also say
I've built a really good auction team
with Travis Kelsey.
So if you want to go with tight end
as one of your core guys,
you can do that too
if you get the elite guy there.
Good question here from Max.
I'm struggling drafting with the seventh pick.
Do you have a preference between Jamar Chase,
Dalvin Cook, or Najee Harris
in a 12 team half PPR league?
Yeah, my preference is Jamar Chase. Do you have a preference there, Adam? I'm going to say Najee Harris in a 12-team half PPR league? Yeah, my preference is Jamar Chase.
Do you have a preference there, Adam?
I'm going to say Najee Harris.
Ugh.
Yeah.
If you look at the workload he got last year,
if he gets that workload again,
he is guaranteed, guaranteed
to be a top 10 running back per game.
True.
And that is based on every running back
over the last five years that has gotten that workload.
They all finished top five and not,
not quite that,
not even that much,
uh,
but a little bit less,
but they all finished top 10 per game,
um,
in full PPR.
This is half PPR,
so it won't be a problem.
So he's super safe.
Uh,
cook to me is,
is,
you know,
at the age where I'm starting to worry about a slowdown and he's always
injury prone.
I love Jamar chase. Uh, so I'd go nazi chase three receiver league i'm fine with it two
receiver two receiver league i would take nazi okay um okay i take nazi anyway but i love chase
that's fine all right how about uh some hair comments here dan's's. Wow. Let's go.
This guy's name is Dan.
I cannot believe Adam put his name is dad.
He said,
Dan's are just better at everything.
Uh,
Adam has the Paul Rudd slop.
It works because he's not balding.
Adam has more hair,
but Dan's is better.
More hair.
I do have more hair than you.
Dan,
more effort.
Yeah.
A little bit after just kind of comb it over. Adam forgot to comb his hair. I never comb more hair than you. Dan, more effort? Yeah, a little bit of effort.
Just kind of comb it over.
Adam forgot to comb his hair.
I never comb my hair.
How early would you take DeAndre Hopkins?
This will be our last question.
Okay.
Where are you at on Hopkins this year?
I feel like he's at the age where I'm starting to fade him a little bit more.
I see the upside, but you've got to keep him on for six games on your bench.
You probably can't put him on IR in most leagues.
He's not going to be eligible.
I don't know, maybe round eight, nine, ten range.
Is it higher for you?
I don't think he'll get there.
Yeah, I know he won't get there.
So I think he's a round seven guy.
Okay.
12-team league.
Round eight would be great.
I take Alan Lazard over him.
Me too. Once we get to the Drake London, Devante Smith,
who else would be in that tier?
I'll do a quick little search here.
Once we get to Tyler Lockett, Devante Smith, Drake London,
Brandon Ayuk, Kadarius Toney.
Yeah, he's going over all those.
Yeah, I'll pull the trigger on DeAndre Hopkins
ahead of them.
What happened to your Tony
love? It's faded.
No, I like Tony. I just
think he's in that group after Hopkins.
I'm scared of him now.
I want him to stay on the field, Dan. It's ridiculous.
I'm more worried about it. That is true.
He's been injured again, but Daniel
Jones looks so bad. That's the bigger concern for me right now.
Hopefully you can just fix that.
I guess.
One thing,
the one encouraging thing was I thought,
don't,
you know,
the best he looked,
he looked fine.
He looked fine.
He didn't look bad,
look fine in the preseason game.
So maybe in the game,
you know,
it was better.
That part sounds all good until you realize the Patriots played zero
starters in that game on defense.
Right.
Uh,
and we'll end with this from Corey.
Dan's hair would be better if he weren't a giants fan.
Wow.
Typical Cowboys Eagles fan here.
Look,
I get it.
But if you're a Cowboys fan,
just go ahead,
turn to your right and look for your VCR.
You should have it somewhere in your house.
You can play your last Superbowl.
You play your last Superbowl run there on your VCR.
It should be somewhere there.
So go,
go find that.
That was awesome.
And I don't even, yeah, I guess for Washington fans too. there on your VCR. It should be somewhere there. Go find that. That was awesome.
I guess for Washington fans, too.
Who knows the last time that was. They might have still been
Betamax at that point.
That was VCR territory.
That was what, 1991?
I think they won it.
All right.
Let's end the show.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
I have a call in 10 minutes.
What a day.
I got to go.
I think I'm going to eat a leftover burrito right now, Dan.
I am fired up.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
And we'll talk to you on Monday on Fantasy Football Today.
We do have some FFT in five episodes dropping on Sunday.
Otherwise, we'll talk to you tomorrow.
Take care.