Fantasy Football Today - Best Destinations for Free Agents (03/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

We discuss a number of free agents with Allen Robinson at the top of the show before we take a quick detour to get Heath's reaction to the Calvin Ridley news (2:15). And we've got plenty of news and n...otes (9:30) as Chris Godwin, Dalton Schultz and Mike Gesicki (14:45) appear to be staying put. Is Godwin a Top 12 WR right now? Could Gesicki reach new heights with a new coaching staff? ... Our big free agency conversation continues with Mitchell Trubisky, of course (19:00)! Is he bad news for Fantasy WRs? Speaking of WRs, we'll cover Amari Cooper (27:45), Christian Kirk (30:30), Juju Smith-Schuster (35:00) and more ... On to RB (41:00), we give potential destinations for Leonard Fournette, Cordarrelle Patterson, Ronald Jones, Rashaad Penny, Chase Edmonds and James Conner ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Calvin Ridley's suspension. Franchise tags for Dalton Schultz and Mike Kosicki. Probably for Chris Godwin as well. Some very good players off the market, but still a lot of interesting free agents like Allen Robinson. We expect him to be a free agent.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Jameis Winston. Amari Cooper will likely be a free agent. Could get traded. Could get traded, could get traded. But guys who will be on the move. We'll tell you where we want to see them go. You know what? Let's throw this out there.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Is there any reviving Allen Robinson's career? Go. Of course. He goes to Patrick Mahomes he goes to uh Justin Herbert he goes to Josh Allen he goes to you know um I think a team that just will feature him you know we don't know how much the injuries played a role last year he obviously does not have a lot of speed uh to the level that he was younger, and he wasn't exactly a speed guy. But with the right amount of targets and opportunity,
Starting point is 00:02:29 I think he could be revived as a fancy receiver, for sure. I don't think he's the number one guy anymore. Right, but if he goes to a team like Kansas City or the Chargers, it's a very different situation than what he's ever been on. He's never played with a good number two receiver unless you count. He's never played with a good quarterback. Darnell Mooney. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I know, but it's like, does he, did you want to see Allen Robinson as we talk about destinations? Do you want to see him go to a team with a great passing game or a team where he's just going to dominate targets? I don't know if both exist, but you know, I don't think both exist,
Starting point is 00:03:01 but I do think that he can still be good with a good quarterback that would hopefully rely on his talents. But I mean, look, Atlanta right now would be a good landing spot for him. Exactly. That's exactly what I was going to say, yes. Yeah, that would make a lot of sense. All right. Heath, what do you think of the Calvin Ridley news? Obviously, it stinks, but from a fantasy standpoint, we spent most of the 20 minutes on our bonus pod yesterday talking about Kyle Pitts. What's your reaction?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Calvin Ridley suspended for at least the 2022 season for gambling. It stinks. I guess we kind of knew this was going to happen at some point with the way that gambling is going with the NFL and being legalized in all the states that these guys are in. It stinks for Calvin Ridley. It stinks for are in. It stinks for Calvin Ridley. It stinks for Matt Ryan. It stinks for the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And hopefully we get to see him back next year. I think from my perspective, the first thing I thought, and I saw John Bosch put this poll out on Twitter, what's Calvin Ridley worth in Dynasty in terms of rookie picks? Yeah, Jamie thought it was the of of my son potty training i think is what you said poop basically um yeah i i know the poll results like eight percent of people selected a first round rookie first round pick and those are eight percent of people in fantasy leagues have calvin ridley on their team right now so that makes sense it was like 20 percent said a second round pick in the top six and i think the winner was 40
Starting point is 00:04:31 percent said a late second round pick this year um he may never play again i'd give up a late second round pick for him though that's like your your your late second round rookie pick may never be on your in your starting lineup. Yeah, no, I think that's certainly fair. But as we – I don't know how much you researched this, Heath, but he's going to be 29 by the next time the next season starts that he plays. So the 2023 season, he'll be 29 years old. We don't know what the Falcons will do with him if they keep him.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Matt Ryan may not be the quarterback, so it could be a rebuilding situation. He may be on a different team because they've unloaded his contract at that point, and who knows where he ends up going. And so you're talking about no production in one season. Who knows what the production will be at that point, and that's typically the time when receivers start to hit that potential cliff. I think he'll still be good i just know it'll ever
Starting point is 00:05:26 be great again by the way when you talk about giving up a second round pick first half of the second round second half of the second round does that change in super flex dynasty leagues because you could have five quarterbacks or so pushing the good wide receivers right so yeah so how does that i think it changes more at least for me and this might change in the next month too it would change more most years than it does this year maybe just because i don't know how many quarterbacks i'm gonna man like last year we had five quarterbacks in the first round of a super flex draft i'm not sure that there's five quarterbacks even in a super flex draft to draft in the first round.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Now, maybe I'm wrong. Wait, there's not going to be five. What were you saying? Last year, there were five rookie quarterbacks that deserved to go in the first round of a super flex draft. I'm not sure there's five this year. In the first round? Oh, I wouldn't think so. In the first two rounds, though, there will be.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Yeah, the first two rounds, probably. How many quarterbacks are going to get drafted, do you think, in the first round of the NFL draft? Two. Probably four. I'll say three. They just eventually push them up. They do. This is where the NFL rules
Starting point is 00:06:39 skew toward taking that guy late in the first round or trading back into it is because you get the fifth year. Teams want to control that fifth year. Yeah. So the, you know, teams want to control that fifth year for quarterbacks. And so, you know, you'll,
Starting point is 00:06:49 you'll see it like for, you know, Atlanta, for example, you know, if they, you know, they,
Starting point is 00:06:54 if they may have considered going quarterback at eight and now with the Calvin Ridley situation, maybe changing things and they go receiver or a different position. They may use their two second round picks to maybe try and, and something in 2023 to buy back into the first round and get a quarterback. You know, you're going to see a team do something like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So Heath, what did you think of the Kyle Pitts? This change your opinion of Kyle Pitts at all? I think we talked about this last week or the week before. And I said that like the risk for, and listen, I think Pitt's the top three or four tight end this season and the number one tight end for sure. dynasty so but i said the risk was that calvin ridley comes back and his
Starting point is 00:07:29 targets aren't quite as good next year or that calvin ridley doesn't come back and the low touchdown thing remains the thing because matt ryan's number one targets always had a low touchdown rate so unchanged basically basically unchanged, five, redraft, number one, for sure, in Dynasty. Yeah, I mean, there's some weird splits with and without. He actually averaged more targets per game with Calvin Ridley. I think it was like 6.8 to 6.2. But Matt Ryan threw something like 10 more passes per game in the five games that Calvin Ridley played compared to the 12 that he didn't.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And Ryan really didn't throw them. He threw about 30, 31 passes per game in the 12 games without Calvin Ridley, which was the last 11 games plus week four. Ridley played weeks one, two, or maybe, no, it was week five. He played the first four games, then he missed a game, and then he came back, and then he missed the rest of the season. All right, anyway, we spent a lot of time on that, so let's get to the topic. Actually, I don't know if you have any interest, Jamie. I was talking yesterday out loud while we were doing the bonus pod. Can terrible
Starting point is 00:08:33 offenses produce elite fantasy options? And right now, right now, with basically every wide receiver on the team last year gone, with uncertainty at running back. And basically, it's just Kyle Pitts. The Falcons have a terrible offense as of this moment.
Starting point is 00:08:51 So I went back. I looked at the five worst scoring offenses of the last five years. And have they produced any great players? Not really. Jarvis Landry was wide receiver four in a PPR league. That was a year where he had 112 catches for 987 yards and nine touchdowns. That was five years ago. You've had three top 12 running backs, two top seven wide receivers, and three top seven tight ends. No tight end higher than tight end five. Maybe tight end four. No, tight end five. In the last five years on bottom five offenses. I don't know if that means anything to you. I mean, I don't think they're going to be a bottom five offense. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I think as it stands right now, yes, they're terrible. But, you know, they lost their number one receiver. They don't have their top running back as of now on their roster because he's a free agent in Patterson. Gage is a free agent. Sharpe is a free agent. Zaccheaus is a free agent. What are we doing here? Until we see what this picture looks like, then if it comes out
Starting point is 00:09:56 of free agency in the draft and they have similar type skill players to what they had last year after Ridley was off the field, then yes, you've got to be a little bit more concerned. We'll talk about that as it develops. Meanwhile, join our Facebook group. Search Fantasy Football Today on Facebook or click on the link in the episode description.
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Starting point is 00:10:25 live stream as we do these podcasts you hear robert all right we'll find out but yeah please join our fantasy football today facebook group there's a link in the episode description or just go on facebook and search fantasy football today your news and notes some big time potential free agents will not be hitting the market chris godwin is likely going to get franchise tagged the deadline is four o'clock today. So by the time you're hearing this, you might already know. Dalton Schultz, Mike Kosicki, David Njoku.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Off the market. Who's left a tight end, Heath? Oh, there's still a variety of very good options. Possibly Rob Gronkowski, Zach Ertz, Evan Ingram, OJ Howard. I feel like I'm missing one still. No, I think there's Gerald Everett. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:13 There's maybe even one more, but that's all I can think of right now. Jack Doyle retired, too. Jack Doyle did retire. Jack Doyle, by the way, from that previous exercise, was one of the players who had a very good year on a bottom five offense. He was tight end five or six in 2017 or 18 when they were terrible. So what about Godwin? Heath, you said on Fantasy Football Today in five
Starting point is 00:11:38 that you projected the Bucs with a league average quarterback, and Godwin still came out as a top 12 option for your top 12 wide receiver. Right? Yeah. Cause I still think if, if they have a league average quarterback that was in a Bruce Arians as the head coach, they're going to throw the ball more than the average offense. They'll, there'll be a little bit more pass heavy and they'll be relatively good as a passing team and Godwin and Evans will dominate targets because Antonio Brown's not there anymore and maybe right now I don't have Rob Gronkowski projected to be there.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Jamie, is he in your top 12? Chris Goblin? No. He's not far off though. I think A, you got to see who the quarterback is because if it's Blaine Gabbert or Kyle Trask, that's not a league average quarterback. That's a low league average quarterback. And B, his health. So when we get closer to August,
Starting point is 00:12:26 if the ACL is not a problem, he's not going to miss any time and he's 100% ready to go, then he probably will move up a few spots, depending on who the quarterback is. But as of now, he is closer to 20 than he is to 12. There was a stretch last season without Antonio Brown and Rob
Starting point is 00:12:42 Gronkowski played about half of this stretch. It was week seven through 14. Chris Godwin had 74 targets. That was 180 targets per 17 games and his 17 game pace. This was without Antonio Brown was 141 catches, 1,566 yards, seven touchdowns, Mike Evans,
Starting point is 00:13:00 32 catches. Uh, well, I'll just go, I'll just give you the targets, 50 targets on pace for 17 touchdowns, but only 1,129 yards. Basically, that stretch of the season where they had some Gronk, but no Antonio Brown.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Chris Goblin had a lot more targets. 24 more targets than Mike Evans in that stretch from week 7 through 14. But, you know, obviously it's Tom Brady. So, one thing I i heard this this might speak to you know the type of quarterback you're thinking of uh someone i spoke to at the combine i should have brought this up yesterday i guess with our combine conversation uh thinks that if they uh don't land one of the top guys which at this point it's looking unlikely that they're going to land one of the top guys and by that i mean rogers, Rogers, Wilson, Watson, even Garoppolo and Winston,
Starting point is 00:13:47 that the fallback option for them will be Teddy Bridgewater. So Bridgewater has never had this type of offensive system. He's never had this type of talent around him. So is he a league average quarterback? Yes. So I think that would probably be a best-case scenario for him. I think you'd rather see, for the receivers at least, you'd rather see somebody like Bridgewater as opposed to Mariota, Trubisky, Trask, Gabbert.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And the person I spoke to said if they go that route, a Bridgewater type of route, if he struggles, then Trask would be the next guy in. Well, I can tell you there was the six-game stretch of Michael Thomas and Teddy Bridgewater type of route, if he struggles, then Trask would be the next guy in. Well, I can tell you there was the six-game stretch of Michael Thomas and Teddy Bridgewater. And Thomas, just the raw numbers. The stretch of his season, of his career. Of Bridgewater's career?
Starting point is 00:14:37 No, of Thomas' career. Maybe of Bridgewater's too. Yeah, I mean, the 16-game pace, I don't have the 17-game pace, but the 16-game pace in those six games was 139 catches, 1,707 yards, eight touchdowns on 173 targets. That was his big year. Right, so that was the receptions down from his career total, his record-breaking total.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Actually, everything was down, but just slightly. Well, the yard's up, right? No, he had 1,725 yards, and he was on pace for 1,707. But he basically kept his pace. The only difference is he wasn't nearly as consistent. He had a game with 182 yards and two touchdowns. If you just look at the game log, those Bridgewater games versus the Breeze games,
Starting point is 00:15:21 it wasn't nearly as consistent, but the overall numbers were still great. So is that the only time that Teddy Bridgewater's had the Breeze games, it wasn't nearly as consistent, but the overall numbers were still great. So that was, was that, is that the only time that Teddy Bridgewater's had an elite wide receiver? Is that fair to say? I don't remember his Minnesota tenure. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Who the receivers were. I mean, I think that depends on how you want to classify DJ Moore. Well, and, and Judy and Sutton too. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But he, he did the job for Thomas. I mean, the system is amazing for quarterbacks. Sure. Okay, so what about Mike Kosicki? I mean, Dalton Schultz, I think we talked about that with the Cooper news, but Mike Kosicki getting the franchise tag. Jamie, does the success of George Kittle in that offense give you hope for more production for Mike Isecki? Yes and no.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I mean, obviously, they certainly know how to get the ball to their tight ends as pass catchers. But George Kittle and Mike Isecki do not play the same game. I mean, George Kittle is arguably the best combo tight end in the NFL. And by that, I mean blocking and receiving. You know, he's elite at both. And Mike Isecki is by far an elite blocker. So will they continue to feature him more as a receiving threat and a receiving threat only?
Starting point is 00:16:32 And I don't think that necessarily was great for him last season. What I mean by that is playing a receiver position, you know, because the injuries last year, Will Fuller, Devontae Parker, when he missed time, they were splitting him out wide more so than putting him in a slot area as a tight end would line up typically as a receiving threat. And so I think what happens there is Mike McDaniel will get him many opportunities if they feature him,
Starting point is 00:17:03 but will they also continue to use the adam shaheen's of the world and you know go that route a little bit more so i think it's like he's going to be one of these borderline fringe tight ends that if you whiff on the guy that you like you take a shot on him because of the coach and the system um and again we have to see what this dolphin receiving core looks like but i was actually hoping to see him go someplace else maybe get a fresh start and and see what he and see what he's like with a different quarterback. Heath, Gusecki and Kittle, you go to their pro football reference pages
Starting point is 00:17:33 and you look at yards after catch, per catch. Kittle is basically double Mike Gusecki in the last four seasons. So I guess we don't know if that's just a skill thing or a system thing or both because I think he's a pretty talented guy. I don't know. Anyway, where do you, where do you have him right now? Back with the dolphins? I think Jamie said borderline top borderline starter. And I originally came out with him at 13. So it sounds like we are in basically the exact same place. It's a, it's a couple of things. He doesn't, he's never been anywhere close to as
Starting point is 00:18:04 good at blocking his kettle. And I think maybe he's never been anywhere close to as good of blocking as Kittle. And I think maybe he's been a below average blocker the few times they've had him do it, but it might be that Mike McDaniel or whoever he's bringing with him can make him a better blocker. I think if he plays more in line and runs those types of routes, he might do more after the catch than he has in the past. But I also don't know if he plays more in line, if he's going to be good at that, because we've not really seen him do it very much. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And also, we'll see how the receiving core fills out. But as mentioned, he's just always, when Kosicki's put up big numbers, he's just taking advantage of guys being hurt, basically. So anything else with the news? Bill Belichick might call plays for the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:18:47 That's cool. Offensive? I'm pretty sure. Right? Isn't that the update? Let me double check. I did not see that, but that would be cool.
Starting point is 00:18:55 That would be, like, I'd be interested in seeing that. Yeah, I'd be interested as hell. Let's see. Let me just double check
Starting point is 00:19:02 on that headline. You got, you got David and Joku getting the franchise tag and it looks like they're going to bring back Austin Hooper. I don't really know. I don't get it. Well, they throw to their tight ends a lot. They play two all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:16 They've got three good ones. It's a lot of money to spend on tight ends for a team that doesn't really throw that much. Trying to be the Patriots. Where's the Stan Belichick update? Did I just make this up? No, he is. That's definitely a rumor.
Starting point is 00:19:29 That was, right? That he might call offensive plays. How fun would that be? That's a lot of scrutiny. Okay, I'm not going to keep looking. Jamie confirmed I'm not going to keep looking. I think that's our news and notes. All right, we're going to take a break here.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And when we come back... Oh, no, we got one. Just came through. Oh, what do we got? Chris Godwin got the tag. Okay. All right. Now we're going to take a break here and when we come back we got one just came through oh what we got chris codwin got the tag okay all right now we're gonna take a break when we come back where do we want to see jamis winston amari cooper christian kirk alan robinson cordaro patterson james connor etc we'll be right back on fantasy football today what does possible sound like for your business? It's having the spend that powers your scale with no preset spending limit. More cash on hand to grow your business with up to 55 interest-free days.
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Starting point is 00:20:45 Yes. And in poll update, 803 votes, 46% of people voting for Trubisky over Daniel Jones as a current better NFL quarterback. Daniel Jones at 39%. One of the highest see results I've ever had, 15%, because they don't want to vote for either one of those guys. And you always give people the easy way out. So I don't know why you don't just make them vote, but I'd like to think that most of the C results camp is probably on Daniel Jones's team. Anyway. All right. Mitchell Trubisky. Is he, would he just be fantasy poison for a wide receiver or tight end?
Starting point is 00:21:25 No. What? No. What? No? Really? Yeah. He's a backup. Okay. Would you rather have Mason Rudolph in Pittsburgh or Mitchell Trubisky?
Starting point is 00:21:34 Oh, Mason Rudolph is fantasy poison. I'd rather have Trubisky. Pick one. I'd rather have Trubisky. Pick one. I cannot. I don't know who you'd have to name. Jake Fromm.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I'd rather have Mason Rudolph than Jake Fromm. But you say fantasy poison. And I think the Steelers is a perfect example that Jamie brought up. They've got Deontay Johnson, who was a borderline top 12 wide receiver last year, right? I think he was top 12, yeah. Are you certain that Trubisky's worse than Ben Roethlisberger at the last stage we saw of Ben? I don't know that it changes Johnson much at all if he has Trubisky after having Roethlisberger at the last stage we saw of Ben? I don't know that it changes Johnson much at all if he has Trubisky after having Roethlisberger.
Starting point is 00:22:10 No, I'm not certain of that. But I think when Mason Rudolph went in for that one game, I think it was they tied the Lions in overtime, right? Well, it must have, they tied them. Mason Rudolph's not as good as Mitchell Trubisky. No one's saying that. I know, I'm just saying, I think that all the crap that people spoke about Ben
Starting point is 00:22:25 Roethlisberger, they were like, well, actually, it could get worse. Well, for sure. But I think to Heath's point, you know, the thing you got to hold for with Trubisky or any of these guys, you know, Mariota. I mean, think about Tannehill. Tannehill left
Starting point is 00:22:42 what was a very high-pressure situation, you know, was once again the heir apparent Dan Marino. First-round pick. Didn't materialize with the Dolphins. Had some good moments. Trubisky, I think, if that draft had flipped and had gone the quarterbacks the way that they should have gone,
Starting point is 00:22:59 which would have been Mahomes, Watson, and then probably Trubisky. I forget who else is in that class. But if Trubisky wasn't first and the Bears hadn't traded up to take him, he was a good prospect coming out of North Carolina. He was probably a year too soon to be starting. And he got put in a bad situation. Can you name the last great Bears quarterback? For a season, I mean, Cutler had his moments, but no.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Just great, great Bears quarterback. I don't know how McMahon is looked at in history, but no, I mean, Cutler had his moments, but no, no, just great, great bears quarterback. I don't know how McMahon is looked at in history, but no, I can't. I don't think he was like, he was great. Cause he won a super bowl, but there,
Starting point is 00:23:31 there, there, that's a situation that just has never produced, you know, consistent, good quarterback play. And it's not all the individual players faults. It's not all the coaches faults,
Starting point is 00:23:39 just kind of how things have worked out there. But, um, I think Matt Nagy has proven to be not necessarily, you know, the best situation for quarterbacks to, you know, blossom. And the hope would be is that Trubisky comes out of a backup situation. You know, Sean McDermott talked about this.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I don't think he's going to say anything negative about Trubisky, but, you know, that they saw his improvement in practice. And, you know, he hopes he gets a chance to be a starter somewhere. He's like, he's not coming back to be a backup to Josh Allen again. So some team is going to invest in Trubisky, and the hope would be that the talent around him brings him up. I think
Starting point is 00:24:11 Pittsburgh is a logical choice if they miss on the guys that they're hoping to get. Just looking specifically at wide receivers, Allen Robinson had the second and third best years of his career, top 12 wide receiver seasons with Mitchell Trubisky mostly playing quarterback those two years. Sure, okay, but you see the formula.
Starting point is 00:24:28 With Deontay Johnson, with Allen Robinson, it's got to be a ton of targets over and over and over again because they're not going to have great seasons per target because these quarterbacks aren't good. I'm sorry. What I'm saying is if I have a wide receiver on my fantasy team in Dynasty and I find out Mitchell Trubisky is his quarterback, I'm not going to be happy about that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Well, depends on who the quarterback currently is. He's not the upgrade that teams, I think, are looking for. And it speaks to where quarterbacks are in this draft and this free agent market. You know, Rodgers doesn't leave. Wilson doesn't leave Watson. Who knows? Once you get past those three guys, I mean, again, Jimmy Garoppolo and James Winston are the prizes. And then it's Trubisky and Bridgewater and Mariota. I mean, think about that, that guys that, I mean, Mariota and, and, and Trubisky former number two overall picks in the NFL draft,
Starting point is 00:25:27 and nobody wants them unless they have to settle for them. So, you know, is Malik Willis and Kenny Pickett and Carson Strong and, you know, Desmond Ritter and all these guys, are they significant upgrades over Trubisky? That's the thing teams have to ask themselves. Now the cost will matter. And so, you know, I know we're going on a tangent here, but, you know, Adam, to your point, can trubisky still keep a receiver like deontay
Starting point is 00:25:49 johnson afloat or can he uh go to denver potentially and and be good for jerry judy and courtland sutton i don't know i honestly don't know i agree with you i'm not going to be happy about that if that's where those receivers end up with as their quarterback or the who those receivers end up with as their quarterback i would those receivers end up with as their quarterback. I would much rather see Aaron Rodgers go to Pittsburgh or his preferred destinations, or Derek Carr gets free and goes to Pittsburgh. What about Wentz? Wentz or Trubisky?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah, I think Wentz is probably an interesting study because he did not have a great discussion because he did not have a great season last year. But I think that's the caliber of quarterback that's not going to make you happy. But again, it's also in the Pittsburgh situation or in the Denver situation, I would much rather have a Trubisky than a Drew Locke,
Starting point is 00:26:33 a Trubisky or a Mason Rudolph. I think he's better than that. And I'm sure Heath would probably say he's better than Daniel Jones for the Giants guys as well. I would say there's five teams I think Trubisky would be an upgrade over what they currently have. It's Pittsburgh, Washington, Tampa Bay, Denver, and the Giants.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And then probably about the same as what the Lions currently have, probably just about the same as what the Colts currently have. I think the Colts is better than Trubisky. I don't really feel that confident in that, but I wouldn't argue strongly either way. You know if the Giants bring in Trubisky,
Starting point is 00:27:15 he's not going to be the starter. Carolina, too. Oh, yes. He's better than Dan Darnold, for sure. Being the second overall pick in the draft as a quarterback is a kiss of death. So what were you saying, Adam? If they bring in Trubisky, it's to be the backup is what you're saying? A hundred percent, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I mean, I think this is – it's happening. I think maybe you're just saying the Bills are not going to bring in Trubisky or the Giants are not going to bring in Trubisky or the Giants are not going to bring in Trubisky. I don't think they are. Because I think if the Bills brass goes and moves to the Giants and then brings Trubisky in when Trubisky's looking for a starting job,
Starting point is 00:27:55 it's at least a competition. I would think the only way that happens though, I'm with you, it would not be surprising, is if he whiffs on getting a job somewhere. He's got a Tampa's got to say no way. Denver, Pittsburgh, Carolina, Washington, they all got to say
Starting point is 00:28:11 nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And then it's okay, let me go where I'm comfortable and there's potential to compete for the job. Let's talk about Amari Cooper, guys. How much does he have left in the tank? Could he still be, let's say, a top 18-ish wide receiver? It's kind of been his career.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Yes, for sure. You think he can be? Where do you want to see him go? I think every scenario that you're probably going to pose with the receivers, unless you're talking about quarterback upgrade, Atlanta makes the most sense. Because there's such
Starting point is 00:28:43 a huge hole, and I still think Matt Ryan could play. So, you know, there's probably some other situations that we could look at and say, okay, do you want to have somebody like Cooper be the number two in Green Bay, which is totally unrealistic because of the money situation. But we know that Valdez Gantley is probably gone, Lazard's a free agent, and they've been begging for a second receiver forever for Aaron Rodgers. So something like that. But I think Atlanta makes a ton of sense
Starting point is 00:29:07 if they don't get somebody else in the free agent market. Go ahead, Ethan. Yeah, I mean, in terms of target opportunity, that would, I think there, the Jets, Jacksonville. What about the Raiders? How about a little reunion? The Raiders? I'd like that.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I'd like that. Yeah, I would not. I don't think. Okay, so I'm looking at Sal. Arizona. Oh, okay. Arizona. I mean, you're going to see the Patriots attached to a lot of receivers.
Starting point is 00:29:40 They were in the Chris Godwin. Excuse me, Chris. Calvin Ridley conversation. Speaking of Godwin, excuse me, Chris Calvin Ridley conversation. Speaking of Godwin, by the way, Rap Report corrected his tweet that they have not tagged Chris Godwin yet, but they will tag him if they don't get a long-term deal done by 4 p.m.
Starting point is 00:29:56 He's not leaving Tampa. Would the Chargers be a good, the Chargers have what I'm seeing, the most cap space. And so they can be aggressive. So you're saying no because they just tagged Mike Williams. So you would not want to see – They did?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah, they tagged Mike Williams. It said yesterday they did. Now today it shows as somebody – I think it's a similar situation as Godwin. Okay. I think he's not going to not be a – he's going to be a Charger one way or the other. But I don't know if it's official. Okay, so you don't want to see a wide receiver end up there? I don't want Cooper, Keenan Allen, and Mike Williams
Starting point is 00:30:30 to all be on the same team, no. Dolphins. Good destination. Would you be excited about that? You have Amari Cooper on your fantasy team. He goes to the Dolphins, no? No, I'd rather the Packers or the Chiefs. Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I think it's because there's – I want to see what they do with Parker first, but bringing back Gusecki doesn't necessarily be – isn't necessarily a great thing because, you know, you want to see Waddle Cooper just dominate targets. Yeah, I'd rather see a guy go to the best quarterbacks of the league too. Well, I'm saying I'd rather him be a secondary option or a third option on one of those great offenses than go to the Dolphins because I still think there's a little bit of a target problem there.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Okay. It'd be different if Parker was gone. Okay. Guys think Christian Kirk can find a spot where he becomes a top 30 wide receiver on draft day. One team we did not mention, I'm glad you brought up Kirk because one rumor that I did hear was Jacksonville. And that's another place
Starting point is 00:31:31 that has plenty of target opportunities for young quarterback that hope is going to get better. So Cooper to Jacksonville also makes some sense. Christian Kirk is somebody that according to one person that I heard from
Starting point is 00:31:44 thinks might be the best player in this class. according to one person that I heard from, thinks might be the best player in this class after you get past Godwin and Adams. So, I mean, huge opportunity for him to sort of, I think, sort of take the next step. And, you know, you go back two seasons ago before they acquired DeAndre Hopkins. I remember we were having arguments with Ben Gretsch, who was in love with Christian Kirk and his potential. And, you know, DeAndre Hopkins kind of squashed that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And then we saw some flashes of it last season. But I think in the right situation, you know, where he can be featured as the number one guy and can see maybe, you know, north of targets, can be a difference maker. Maybe not a top 10 wide receiver, but maybe in the top 20 conversation. So Jacksonville, if they decide to go that route, Atlanta decides to go that route, making him the feature guy, he could be a really fun fantasy option next year. I wonder how he'd fit in Chicago opposite Mooney. Mooney more of the deep threat and him running more the underneath stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:46 But you know, it's interesting to think that you look at Allen Robinson and Christian Kirk and you say, I want Christian Kirk. If you're an NFL GM. Youth. Yeah, that's the only thing, right? But if you
Starting point is 00:33:02 think Robinson has lost a step, which that's some of the reason why he may have struggled last year and some of the reason why he may not be as coveted as some of these other guys, he was never a speed guy. And so is the separation still there? Is the hand still there? Probably so. But can he still make the same type of plays, win the same type of 50-, 50, win the same type of 50-50 balls, you know, those type of things. That's what you have to ask yourself. And so, again, quarterback play in Chicago, you know, to go back to Trubisky, you know, then the transition to a younger quarterback in fields and the injuries last year, you
Starting point is 00:33:38 know, so we just don't know where he's at in terms of his physical, the physical part of his game. But I think in the right situation, he can still be good. But again, it just comes down to what teams want. I think if you have the right pieces in place, you just want to make Allen Robinson a complimentary guy, then yeah, sure. He's going to be the one more people covet.
Starting point is 00:33:55 But if you're looking to rebuild your receiving core, like a Jacksonville, like an Atlanta, there's probably another team or two that I'm missing. He's the perfect fit because you can build around him and then draft somebody, and then you have two young guys to hopefully have a nice future for your quarterback. Man, I just don't know what Christian Kirk has done to warrant this.
Starting point is 00:34:17 It's about perception. It's about what you see on film. The person that I heard from is close to him and so likes him a lot. All right. Well, yeah. I think also we might have to change our perception of dollars and value because we've just seen David Njoku and Mike Gasicki get $11 million for next year.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess going back to the fantasy question of what it would take for you to value him as a number three receiver on draft day and potential number two, like a top 30 guy, like I said, um, fantasy.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah. Yeah. Because I think it's got to be, it's got to be a situation where it's not an elite player opposite him. So if he goes to Jacksonville and it's a rookie, if he goes to Atlanta and it's pits and a rookie, if he goes to Chicago, like he said, rookie, if he goes to Atlanta and it's pits and a rookie, if he goes to Chicago, like he said,
Starting point is 00:35:07 and it's Darnell Mooney, you know, those are the type of scenarios where you say, okay, I could be excited at Indianapolis. You know, if they move on from Hilton and it's him and Pittman, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:14 I don't think you're viewing him as better than Pittman. I don't think you're viewing him as better than Mooney, but by the end of the season, that perception might change. So top 30 receiver, probably not on draft day, but top 36, top 40.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And then with, you know, the, the breakout moniker, the sleeper moniker, whatever tag you want to assign to him, he'll fall into those type of categories for sure. All right. We're talking about ideal landing spots. I don't know which team it is, but I want a fresh start for Juju Smith-Schuster.
Starting point is 00:35:51 The guy is 25 years old, and I just get him away from one of the worst passing offenses in football, and let's see what he can do. He had a 900-yard rookie season, which is always a great sign. He had a 1,400-yard sophomore season. He's been junk since then. Played one season with Mason Rudolph, and oh, what was the other guy for the Steelers. Duck Hodges. Duck Hodges.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Thank you. I was, I was going to say David Blau with Duck Hodges. Uh, and then the last two years with Ryan, this past year, he played four, basically four games,
Starting point is 00:36:16 played five officially. Uh, let's, I want to see if we're looking at a revival, I mean, Juju's the guy, if there's anyone I think could just resurrect his career, to me it's Juju. Agree or disagree, Heath?
Starting point is 00:36:28 Oh, you know I'm going to agree. I love Juju. I mean, he's basically the same age as Christian Kirk, right? With a better resume. What's that? With a better resume. Yeah. Now, I don't know that he has the better perception right now because kirk's career
Starting point is 00:36:45 has moved one direction and juju's moved another the last couple of years but no there's a variety of situations that i could see being excited about him um it's just like what we're gonna figure out what the nfl teams fit he's another guy i think could fit in chicago pretty well um i think he's a guy like he was down to the chiefs and the Raven or chiefs and Steelers and Ravens last year. Right. I think he'd fit opposite Tyree kill pretty well. If they wanted to get away from Mikko Hartman.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. Let me follow up on that. Would you rather see Juju Smith Schuster go to a place like Atlanta or Chicago where he has the chance to be the number one option, or would you rather him be a number two guy? I'd probably choose Atlanta first, like Jamie said, just about for anybody because it's the one place where there's a ton of targets available and a competent quarterback.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah, again, I'll throw Jacksonville in there too just because I think they'll be be much improved play from Trevor Lawrence and huge opportunity. But you could see a situation, you know, Carolina wants to upgrade their second receiver. And if they move on from Robbie Anderson and that's the fit that they see, especially if they upgrade the quarterback, Washington certainly needs a, you know, I think a better number two receiver, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:01 especially if they decide to do something different with Curtis Samuel, you know, a la Debo Samuel. So a quarterback upgrade there. But I think you're going to see him go to a high-profile situation, maybe for a little lesser money and almost do another one-year deal if he doesn't get this mega contract because I could see him wanting to be on a big stage, wanting to attach himself to a good quarterback. And the fact that Kansas City was interested last year,
Starting point is 00:38:25 to me, that's an obvious choice. I could also see something like Arizona, where if they decide to not bring back Kirk, not bring back A.J. Green, having somebody like that with reliable hands that could play two roles inside-outside for Kyler Murray, I think would be big also.
Starting point is 00:38:41 They're going to be the type of team, I think, if they don't work out a long-term deal with Kyler Murray, to try to impress him with some of the weapons that they could big also. They're going to be the type of team, I think, if they don't work out a long-term deal with Kyler Murray to try to impress him with some of the weapons that they can bring in. And I think that would be the type of guy I think he can get on board with. And if Dallas is going to go no Amore Cooper but bring back Michael Gallup, Juju might fit very well as the slot guy playing with those two guys outside. I just don't know if they have the cap situation to bring two of those guys in. Yeah, I don't know. I don't cap situation to bring two of those guys in.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah, I don't know. I don't have any idea what Juju's market's going to be. Yeah, that's a good point. And Juju, by the way, I mean, I'm looking at his 2018 season. I think that was his 1,400-yard season. He played probably about 60% of his snaps in the slot that year. So he's always been a slot guy.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But last year, in the five games he played, he played 275 snaps, and 213 of them were in the slot. So it's just, they just really stopped using him outside, and his ADOT was so low. That sort of makes sense when you have Claypool and Deontay.
Starting point is 00:39:42 But it's not good for him, is what I'm saying. I don't think it was good for him. I just don't think Pittsburgh was a good situation for him. And to be fair, you referenced that 2018 season, and a lot of people will probably agree with this, that you might want to see him with
Starting point is 00:39:58 a better receiver opposite him because his best numbers came with Antonio Brown, where he wasn't the focal point. Right. Okay, so I'm going to ask you this about receivers, and we'll move on to running backs. Do you think, and I know I'm sorry we just because his best numbers came with Antonio Brown, where he wasn't the focal point. Okay, so I'm going to ask you this about receivers, and we'll move on to running backs. Do you think, and I know I'm sorry we just can't get to everyone, it's just impossible.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Do you think New England is a good destination? They're obviously going to be aggressive. They might have a very inexperienced play caller with very little pedigree, from what I understand. But do you think the Patriots would be a good destination for a wide receiver? Would you want to see your wide receiver end up there? No.
Starting point is 00:40:29 No. You know, Juju actually might make some sense there if they move on from Jacoby Myers because Myers is a free agent. And so, you know, if it's a similar system to what they've run,
Starting point is 00:40:40 similar offense where the slot receiver has obviously been so dominant, then maybe a guy like that can have some success there but you know i think with still having the tight ends they're still having agalor still having born the what they want to do with their run game mac jones still not there yet as a passer it's not the ideal situation let's talk about running backs here where do you want to see Leonard Fournette? Before we move on,
Starting point is 00:41:08 I think one thing that's going to be interesting to tell with this receiver market is just that this draft class is so loaded with talent at that position, you know, so teams might not spend as much because they are going to look at, you know, youth and, and contract situation there from the draft. Fournette coming off his,
Starting point is 00:41:22 I don't know. I guess it was his best season in some respects. It was his best season. His best. Okay. I know he had at least one huge year with Jacksonville, but great year for four net big impact player. If he hadn't missed the games,
Starting point is 00:41:34 his numbers would have been better. Total was, where do you want to see him go? Heath? I think for all the running backs, there's two top spots. And then there's a second tier of, of really good spots,
Starting point is 00:41:44 but Arizona and Tampa Bay are the two places that, if you have a free agent running back on your dynasty roster, going to those two places, I think, are both pretty good. Arizona, I would give the edge to just because they have Kyler Murray at quarterback, and we don't know who Tampa Bay is going to have, and they might not be as good of offense. But I think if Connor doesn't return, if if connor doesn't return if edmunds doesn't return that's the prime spot now they may draft somebody they've been linked to spiller i
Starting point is 00:42:09 think in the route in the draft so i wouldn't be surprised with four net with connor if it's situations like we've seen with melvin gordon other guys in the past where they go sign a free agent for five or six million dollars and then they draft somebody in round two or three as well i would put miami in that in that level too, just because of Mike McDaniel. If they have the ability to take that same system, which has been just foolproof. It hasn't been exactly great for a running back, but it's been great for the group.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Miami to me is a good landing spot for Fernand also. Do you think the Cardinals, and this is a hard question to answer, but what do you think? They'll go away. I mean, maybe you kind of alluded to it, Heath, but will they go away from the two-back system and let one guy get the carries and the catches?
Starting point is 00:42:53 Because that's obviously what we're looking for. I don't think we have enough information, but I think it would probably depend on if they have a guy who they think can hold up to that. Last year, they had Chase Edmonds, who's not really a 20-25 touch-a-guy game. He's done it a couple times, but they don't want to do it with him all season. And they had Connor,
Starting point is 00:43:08 who has a really long list of injuries. I doubt they want to do that with a rookie and hand him that type of workload. But Fournette might be one of the guys on the market who has shown the ability to do that. So Kingsbury said, when asked about his running back situation, he praised both the guys in terms of Edmonds and Connor.
Starting point is 00:43:29 He said, we'd like to bring back one. We can't bring back both, basically, was the gist of his answer in terms of money. And then he started talking about Eno Benjamin, which when I tweeted something about that, the Eno Benjamin truthers just came out of nowhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got a chat question. Any,
Starting point is 00:43:45 you know, Benjamin love. Yeah. I mean, he was talking highly about him at the combine. So, um, I think when you,
Starting point is 00:43:52 when you look at it, uh, for net makes a lot of sense there. Uh, cause he can be what Connor was in that five games. I mean, the five games that Edmonds missed, Connor was just amazing.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I mean, you know, can they get that over a 17-game season from any of the guys that they have there, you know, whether it's somebody they bring in or somebody that they retain? And that's the hope, you know, so it'd be great. It'd be great if they committed to one. And I think the thing about it is, like, you know, Connor could decide that he wants to um you know stay for for
Starting point is 00:44:26 less money uh let me answer that did i throw you off with the comment here no i said this yesterday yeah donovan says jb was wearing a red socks hat yesterday interesting he has a yankees hat on today and i was wearing a mets hat on fft and five on sunday night uh uh well two things so i i have three boys they all play baseball. They all have three different teams, the Yankees, the Red Sox, and the Mets. But I said I'm going to wear a baseball hat, a different team baseball hat.
Starting point is 00:44:51 As many as I have. I don't have that many. Until the strike is over. Or the lockout is over. Hey, maybe today. Maybe today. But also, I thought yesterday was CBS Windbreaker Day. I didn't realize that we're having a repeat today.
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Starting point is 00:45:35 happy. Oh yeah. Yeah. I would. All right. I would not want to wear that to drop off my kids. Okay. Anyway, but, but it's a good product. I'm not going to lie. Anyway. Um, back to Cordero Patterson, anybody buying Cordero, Cordero Patterson could be a starting fantasy running back Heath. I don't expect, and I, this could be wrong, but I don't think he's going to be a starting NFL running back. Um, no one thought he was a starting running back before last year. He had a great, great run for what what eight to ten weeks and then faded hard and he's gonna be 31 years old before the season starts i i just can't him like he could he will go into somebody's 1b maybe but i just kind of hope that he doesn't hurt anybody's value too much
Starting point is 00:46:16 so the only thing i would disagree with there is there is one team i think that would view him that way it's a team he just played for and so so Arthur blank, uh, indicated that he wants to keep quarter of Patterson. I think Patterson is looking to, you know, cash in after the season that he just had. Um, as I, I think I mentioned this yesterday,
Starting point is 00:46:33 Adam, that there, there are some publications when you look at the free agent running backs that have Patterson first, uh, because of his versatility. Um, question.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Do you, do you think that's because of his special teams versatility? Cause he is, I think I'll be above. I think, you know, you can, you know, especially losing Ridley, you know, question do you think that's because of his special teams versatility because he is i think i'll be buff i think you know you can you know especially losing ridley you know they may pay a little bit more than another team may have to offer and so the falcons what i would like to see personally if they do do this you know and and depending on what happens in mike davis is that the one b there is an upgrade over mike davis you know so that when patterson does start to fade
Starting point is 00:47:03 then we see the flip and maybe what happened, you know, last year where Davis was lead guy, then Patterson showed some things and if Patterson can't hold up, but they have such a huge need for playmakers. It just makes a lot of sense for them to keep him because he knows what to do for that system. I don't, I'd rather see fresh, you know, fresh
Starting point is 00:47:19 blood there and a new body, but I do think we're going to see a reunion of Cordero Patterson and the Thalkins. I'm going to give you some hypotheticals here. We're going to do the breaking news. What was my stupid breaking news music? It was breaking. Mystery draft part two? Yeah. What was my
Starting point is 00:47:35 breaking porn music? It was this one, right? Do you know what we did yesterday? Breaking porn music. What? We did a mystery draft yesterday where Adam just gave us stats and we had to pick a player. You do this on Twitter a lot. Dave ended up with a three-round draft. Dave ended up with...
Starting point is 00:47:55 Kirk Cousins, Miles Sanders, and Michael Pittman. That was his three picks. I had... Who was my quarterback? Justin Herbert. Joe Mixon and Stephon Diggs. Yeah. I think Dave lost that game. But Dave also, Jamie picked Herbert before Dave had a chance to pick a quarterback. Dave picked Miles Sanders over Mixon and Dobbins.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And he picked Michael Pittman over Diggs and Lamb. Just based on their profiles. It was a ridiculous game. I can understand the Miles Sanders one, because I'm assuming that you put together the profiles, and you kind of think Miles Sanders is the best running back in the history of the NFL. No.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Second best. He probably sounded better than he is. No, it was just his career numbers. Career 5.1 yards per carry, 8.6 yards per carry, whatever it was. Yeah, yeah. He's got a good profile. 17 runs of 60 yards or further. Well, I didn't even put that in there.
Starting point is 00:48:49 432 of negative yardage. Imagine if the Eagles treated Miles Sanders like the Bengals treated Joe Mixon. Imagine that. I think that was maybe the point of the exercise. If he could just stay healthy. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:02 All right, hey, breaking porn news. Four teams have just signed running backs the falcons re-signed cordaro patterson the cardinals signed melvin gordon the dolphins signed rashad penny and let's just leave it at that because I can't think of another destination for Leonard. Where should Leonard Fournette go? Stay home. Okay, Leonard Fournette is on the Bucs. How do you rank them?
Starting point is 00:49:33 Fournette on the Bucs, Patterson on the Falcons, Penny to the Dolphins, Melvin Gordon to the Cardinals. Fournette one, Gordon two, Penny three, Patterson four. I would swap Gordon and Fournette for the time being because I'm assuming Gordon's not sharing with anyone in this scenario yet. But if they added a second guy, then it would be that order. Yes. Eno Benjamin, baby.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah. I think if Melvin Gordon's sharing with Eno Benjamin, he's going to get a lot of touches. Here's a question from Albert. Where's the best fit for Chase Edmonds? Arizona with no Connor? Yeah, if that was possible. I just...
Starting point is 00:50:16 Maybe the Raiders to play the James White role? Let's look at those Chase Edmonds games without James Connor. Total league league winner as i recall so let's see it was late in the season right as the fantasy playoffs week 16 16 carries 56 yards and a touchdown eight catches for 71 yards that was pretty awesome then not as good against the cowboys uh 23 touches only 13 did. Did he fumble? 13.2. No.
Starting point is 00:50:46 13.2 PPR fantasy points. 26.7 PPR fantasy points in week 16. 13.2 in week 17. But he had 23 and 24 touches in those two games. Pretty good average. It's a good average. And the touches are fantastic. Yeah, I mean, if you had a running back in Arizona
Starting point is 00:51:02 who could get both roles, you could have a top five running back. It's been so good. So productive. All right. Anything else? There were a bunch of guys, Heath, that you wanted to throw in there. I know we didn't have a ton of time, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:17 cover some other players that might be relevant right now. Yeah, we didn't. I think there's going to be a tight end that we didn't talk about that lands in a good spot. Maybe Indianapolis. There's still, uh, seven teams. Um, I may be six now after the Cowboys, six or seven teams that have a hundred or more, uh, tight end targets to replace from last year.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And most of the guys we were thought were going to be exciting. Tight end targets are not going to be free agents anymore. So Zach Ertz, OJ Howard, Evan Ingram landing in the right spot could be very interesting for this year. And I'd like to see Ronald Jones get one spot somewhere where they already have a pass-catching running back. And they just, like, if you told me they were going to pair him in Miami with Myles Gaskin and the Dolphins got that offensive line fixed,
Starting point is 00:52:01 I think Jones could have a good year there. Jones is, I was thinking, when you said Jones, Miami to me makes the most sense because they don't need to throw to their running backs to have success. And you look at, you know, Mostert was never a big pass catcher. Obviously Mitchell last year, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:15 you go back through and the Kyle Shanahan guys, they just don't throw to that position very often. And so Jones doesn't need to have that part of his game, you know, necessarily be the thing that carries him through, you know, so he's not going to be a top 10 type running back in know, necessarily be the thing that carries him through, you know, so he's not going to be a top 10 type running back in Miami, but he can be kind of like what Mitchell was, um,
Starting point is 00:52:30 better non PBR than PPR and still very serviceable. If he gets that type of opportunity for sure. Yeah. I really think Ronald Jones, if you get them on a minimum contract, it would be a good fit for the giants. And I think he could be fantasy relevant because Barkley's getting hurt so often, and Booker was fantasy relevant,
Starting point is 00:52:48 and Gallman was fantasy relevant, and I think they're just going to cycle through backup running backs for when Barkley gets injured. I could see Jones in Seattle also if Penny leaves. Carson's not right. That's another system that he could have some success into. Right. He's the guy who could be basically a handcuff
Starting point is 00:53:05 that nobody drafts and then starter gets hurt and he's the hot waiver wire guy because he's a somewhat known commodity. I think if he leaves and goes to a team, even in a backup situation, he'll still be one of those late round flyers. I'll tell you a team that makes a lot of sense, which I would love to see.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Kansas City. Darrell Williams, free agent. Derek McKinnon. I mean, I know that he doesn't catch the ball very much, but he can certainly do some things in the running game.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Maybe that changes the role for Edwards-Hilaire. Yeah, I was going to say maybe Edmonds to Kansas City to take the Darrell Williams role. So I do think that's it. Then it goes to Kansas City
Starting point is 00:53:38 taking the Edwards-Hilaire role too, probably. I think probably so. Okay, let's read some emails. FantasyFootball atbsi.com. Anthony from a city that lost two teams, one of which just won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:53:50 St. Louis. What was the other team they lost? The Cardinals used to beat St. Louis. Oh, yeah. Wait, they were? Yes. Baseball. I mean, obviously the baseball Cardinals used to be St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I don't remember them as the St. Louis Cardinals. I remember them as Phoenix. I remember them as cards, I believe. What did you say, Jamie? You weren't born yet. Yeah, still,
Starting point is 00:54:12 I should have known that. Okay. Who was their best player? Oh, Stan Musial. Not baseball. I don't know who was their best player. Was a former commentator. he grew up listening to him jason whitton joe rose who dan deardorff oh yeah oh okay i think i took a picture i did
Starting point is 00:54:42 take a picture with dan deardorff once. I looked like I was eight years old. He was so big. He's huge compared to me. Big dude. Alright, in a keeper league, how much does Debo Samuel getting dual eligibility increase his value? If he's wide receiver eight, but I can
Starting point is 00:55:00 play him at running back if needed, is he more valuable than, say, wide receiver four? Is anybody doing this? No. Well, let's just say, hypothetically, he had dual algebra. Where would you rank him? Maybe move him up a couple spots.
Starting point is 00:55:20 It's worth something. Okay. I don't know if he's going to be top five wide receiver. He's not going to crack the... I mean, look, if Adams leaves or doesn't keep Rodgers with him, Debo might be better.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Well, there's big five, and then who's six for you guys? Diggs? Diggs. Okay, so if Debo has dual eligibility, Diggs or Debo? Diggs, but I would probably take Debo over A.J. Brown to seven. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Yeah, I was going to say probably, like I've got him 12 right now, I'd probably move him to eight. All right, this is Mike from Philly. I need to keep two in the first 11 rounds and two in round 12 or higher. It's a 10-team super flex league, and he has the 10th overall pick. So he needs two in the first 11 rounds.
Starting point is 00:56:05 McCaffrey in the first, Kelsey in the first, Mixon in the second, Devontae Adams in the first, Jamar Chase in the seventh. Bingo. That's a bingo. All right, what are we doing? Pick two. I'll pick one.
Starting point is 00:56:20 So Chase in the seventh, and then you've got either McCaffrey, Kelsey, or Adams in the first, or Mixon in the second. Adams as long as he gets franchised today, for me. Does he know what he's picking? Tenth. Tenth. So it's not Mixon in the second, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Unless, maybe, but... There's also a Superflex league in case that matters, which it doesn't. I would go Mixon in the second. Go Bengals, go. Really? Well, but the second round pick is only pick 11. He's got the 10th and the 11th pick. Oh, it's a 10
Starting point is 00:56:55 team. It's a 10 team league. Oh, yeah. So first and second pick are only separated by one pick. They're the same, basically. So McCaffrey, Kelsey, Mixon, and Adams all have the same value. I would go with Chase and McCaffrey. And I'd go Chase and Adams. Okay, we need two more here.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Now, round 12 or higher. Cordaro Patterson, J.K. Dobbins in the 12th round. Oh, Stafford and... Okay, this is over. Stafford and Hurts, 14 and 15. Oh, Stafford. And okay, this is over Stafford and hurts 14 and 15 super flex. Yep. I suppose Dobbins in the 14th is worth considered in the 12th. You can't keep
Starting point is 00:57:32 Dobbins instead of McCaffrey or the other guys in the first round. No, no two from each group. I'd probably go hurts and Dobbins, but I wouldn't argue with hurts and Stafford. Yeah, super flex. They got kids at two quarterbacks. Okay, this is from... Let's see if you get this greeting, Heath.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Matt from somewhere in Ontario. Dear Morn, Nasty, and Rupee. Are those all wordle answers? Yeah. Okay. And honestly, man, screw you for getting me hooked on quartal. Did you see the other day when my name was in it?
Starting point is 00:58:06 No. Heath was one of the words. Oh, cool. Yeah. Oh, I must have seen that because I do it. Yeah, every day. And the thing with the Quartle is they got the practice rounds. You don't even get cut off.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I don't do the practice rounds ever. You got to have some discipline. I have the 12th pick in a Dynasty startup next week. It is a 12-person PPR Superflex League with three flex positions and tight end premium. So we start 10 players. Superflex with three flexes, tight end premium.
Starting point is 00:58:35 The draft is next week. He has the 12th pick. Would it be wise to take a This is not a rookie draft. This is a Dynasty startup. Alright, now here we go. Would it be wise to take a trade offer that would give me the sixth overall pick? I would give up 2.1 and 4.1
Starting point is 00:58:51 and move up six spots and also get the sixth pick in the ninth round. So you still keep 12 though, right? Yes, but you lose 13. Yes. You lose 13 in the
Starting point is 00:59:10 first pick of round four to move up six spots. You can say you'll have six and 12 that... Yeah, alright. And you also get a ninth pick. I don't think I would. But... You're getting a chance at hopefully one of the elite players
Starting point is 00:59:27 you're still keeping your other pick in the first round you're getting a pick in the sixth round back right ninth round ninth round back yeah I do it I don't know that I would because in super flex when you lose that
Starting point is 00:59:42 fourth round pick that's going to make quarterback tough. Yeah, but six, assuming Mahomes and Allen probably go in the first five picks. Yeah. If not, you get one of them. You're not getting one of those guys at 12. Who are the real prizes in Dynasty in a super flex league? Two quarterbacks, two receivers, and Taylor. So you're saying it's
Starting point is 01:00:05 Mahomes, Allen, Jefferson, Chase, Taylor. Off the top of my head, that would be... What do you think, Heath? I'd probably go Lamar or Herbert next. Okay. All right. Herbert should be in the top six too.
Starting point is 01:00:21 So you're not getting Herbert. Okay. This is from Robin Houston. I am in officially win now mode after dealing for Jonathan Taylor. I'm now being offered this trade. I give up James Conner. I get Robert Woods, PPR. I do it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I think it's fine if you have better running backs than receivers. You just traded for Taylor, so I assume that Conor's a depth piece at running back, and I think it's fine. I think they're about equal. Good stuff. Good show. Thanks for watching and listening. We'll be back on Thursday to talk about the other side of free agency. Which players could lose if, say, their team adds a wide receiver? That's fewer targets for player X, whatever. Which players could lose an NFL free agency.
Starting point is 01:01:06 We'll tell you that on Thursday show. Thanks so much for watching. Listen, and by the way, if there's any breaking news, big time, breaking news, you can expect a bonus podcast for Keith and Jamie.
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