Fantasy Football Today - Best Football Weekend Ever! (01/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

We're reacting to the most competitive weekend in NFL playoff history and of course talking 2022 Fantasy. The biggest winner was Gabriel Davis (4:00). Was Stefon Diggs the biggest loser (6:45)? We spe...nd a lot of time discussing the Bills WRs and then just talk football for a bit (15:00) ... Adam gives a movie review for a classic film that he just finally watched even though everyone else in the world has already seen it (21:00). Then we've got news and notes (22:40) and we get into the Divisional Round losers. What is A.J. Brown's ceiling (32:30)? What would the Packers backfield look like next season with and without Aaron Rodgers (36:50)? ... We get into the Bucs passing game with and without Tom Brady (42:00) and give our thoughts on Dawson Knox (48:00) for 2022. Knox or Noah Fant? Pat Freiermuth? ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Welcome to Fantasy Football today on this Monday. And it feels like the Super Bowl was just played. That was incredible. I mean, it's kind of a letdown. What do you think for the encore? I tried to tell you.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I tried to tell you. Good luck, Roger Goodell. Super Bowl 55 and a half. 55 and a half. Yeah, it was amazing. Here's your stat of the century. Just read this on NFL.com. The four divisional round games
Starting point is 00:01:50 were decided by a combined total of 15 points. That's an average margin of victory of 3.8 points per game. That is the lowest average margin of victory in NFL playoff history in a round with at least four games. You know, there aren't that many rounds with at least four games. You know, aren't that many rounds with at least four games, but still, it was that good. Four walk-offs.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Four walk-offs. All right, Jamie, what was the second best game of the weekend? Oh, I think both of them were yesterday. You know, with the Bucs and the Rams. You know, just the fact that the Bucs made it a game after really looking awful through the majority of three quarters. And so, you know, they got clearly lucky with some of the turnovers from the Rams, his field goal by Matt Gay. But, you know, you thought Brady, you know, can you imagine if he had come back from first 28-3 against the Falcons in the Super Bowl and
Starting point is 00:02:39 then 27-3 against the Rams there? Quarterbacks named Matt or Matthew would have definitely been scared about ever playing him again. But yeah, it was probably yesterday. But all the games were great. Yeah, the Bucs game was so pathetic. It wasn't even a great comeback. It was just the... Drama.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah, it was just the Rams wee-weeing down their leg uh it was it was really it was really bad dave you think the two fumbles by cam acres matter do you think uh sony michelle gets that job back next week i bet there's a more defined split between those two like they they mix and match them they're gonna have a hard time trusting acres. I know they went right back to him after that first fumble that he had, but the second one, I know he got more playing time after it, but I wonder if they just have to think twice about it. Is it even worth it?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Is it worth putting him on the field? He's looked good in spurts, but I don't know if he's necessarily back to where he was pre injury. And maybe they should just put Sonyny Michel back in that spot. Henderson might be back as well. So I bet we see more of a committee next week. His rush average is not going to look very good in the playoffs, most likely, because he's just going to face really good run defenses, right?
Starting point is 00:03:57 He's going to face the Bucs this week, and he's going to face the 49ers next week. The only thing I cared about was the playing time. The fumbles, yes, problem, and we'll see what they do. But that was pretty telling, the The fumbles, yes, problem, and we'll see what they do. But that was pretty telling, you know, the fact that he, you know, one game in, and it was okay, you're the guy again, go. You knew it was going to be a struggle for him, you know, but the fact that he played as much as he did, and like Dave said, that they went back to him after the fumbles.
Starting point is 00:04:18 We'll see what happens next week. But Michel was terrible in Week 18 against the 49ers, so I can't imagine that he's going to have a more significant role, much more significant role. He'll have a bigger role potentially, but I still think this is Akers' job, hopefully forever. In six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, Joe Burrow and Ryan Tannehill combined for 20 points.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes combined for 90 points. Dude, how about saturday there was two wins with one passing touchdown combined between those two teams and it was tannahill it was tannahill wow rogers none yeah roppolo none burrow none crazy crazy all right so let's do a fantasy winner and a fantasy loser. Dave, which one would you like? Winner's the most obvious thing ever. Well, who? Gabriel Davis.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Okay. Exactly. Well, I think Cam Akers has a, even despite the fumbles. We had him last week, though. Yeah, we did have him last week. All right, Dave, Jamie, I'll give you Gabriel Davis. Dave, you think of a loser while Jamie talks about Gabriel Davis. I mean, look, he's... This is a great stat I saw this morning. He
Starting point is 00:05:29 scored more touchdowns in the... Am I getting this right? No, it can't be. Great stat, Jamie. It's more touchdowns in the last five games or so than CeeDee Lamb had all season. Whatever his seven touchdown
Starting point is 00:05:45 stretches um i'd probably butcher step but in any event he's just fantastic i mean you know the four touchdowns that he had um set a record the the two touchdowns in the final two minutes uh set a record um yeah he's he's uh he's gonna be everybody's favorite breakout candidate next season um i just went back i i knew i had drafted him in one of the two drafts that we did and uh you got him in one and i got him in one yeah you got him in the ppr when i had him half ppr right and i was mad i knew that you did because i was trying to get him in the other one too my my receiving core in that league is keenan allen calvin ridley darnell mooney and gabriel davis uh if you tell me i get those four guys okay sign me up all day long keenan allen who long keenan allen who
Starting point is 00:06:25 huh keenan allen who darn on mooney gave me alan calvin ridley darn on mooney and gabriel davis obviously ridley's a wild card but you know we're all hoping he's going to be back and in a good situation um and that's with dalvin cook and giovante williams so uh and devin singletary so you know you get you get uh the opportunity to see what he can be in a full-time role. Get Emmanuel Sanders off the team so he doesn't have to have any concern about him being in the way. He's got so much upside, Gabriel Davis. He does, but we shouldn't just ignore.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Well, maybe it's seven touchdowns in the playoffs is more than what C.D. Lamb's had this season, the last two playoffs combined. Yeah, that's right. Okay, that makes sense. Four yesterday with over 200 yards. Eight catches, 201 yards, and four touchdowns on 10 targets. Wasn't that long ago, week 18, he had three catches for 39 yards on 14 targets.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So he had, you know, almost his, he had more than a third of his entire season output yesterday. He had 549 yards in the regular season and 201 yesterday. What's the danger here, Dave, in maybe overreacting to Gabriel Davis' big game? The overreaction is to draft him too early and to put him in round four or something like that, where you expect him to just have a chance to take over as the number one wide receiver in Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You can't do that. No. Well, even if you, you know, I mean, people are going to draft digs obviously, but,
Starting point is 00:07:52 but if you expect, and I think he's the loser, like, I think that he's the one that you go back to and you say, well, where, where was he? He came up small in the game against Kansas city.
Starting point is 00:08:01 He came up small in the game before. I know he had the two point catch or whatever. That's it's not enough, in the game against Kansas City. He came up small in the game before. I know he had the two-point catch or whatever. It's not enough. But he was outshined in the first Bills win in the playoffs by Dawson Knox and Davis. And then Davis just goes ham in the second game. And if this is the direction that the Bills offense is going to move into, it makes sense for Buffalo
Starting point is 00:08:18 to spread it around and have more weapons and be more diversified. But it just kind of feels like maybe we're going to be overrating Stefan Diggs and people taking him with a top 30 pick might be not doing themselves a favor. I don't know if he's going to remain dominant as the heavy target guy. Like he was two seasons ago. Like it was one season ago.
Starting point is 00:08:39 If that's the case, you're getting a steal for Stefan Diggs. He's not getting out of the second round. I mean, he's still got so much upside. You know, you can't overlook the body of work that he had all season. And the hope would be is that, I mean, obviously, you know what the Patriots did, you know, with JC Jackson and trying to take him away last week. And this week, you know, Chiefs maybe had a similar game plan. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I haven't gone back and looked at it yet. But I'm going to guess that, you know, most teams' plans, which it should be, and then Gabriel Davis' emergence will hopefully help that, is to take away your best option, which is take away Stephon Diggs. So if you start to open up the other side of the field, you can't take away Stephon Diggs, then that helps Diggs moving forward. He was seventh in targets per game among receivers this past season. Is he going to be top seven again next season?
Starting point is 00:09:21 I mean, I guess he's still going to be top 10. So, you know, you factor in A.J. Brown missing time, you factor in, still going to be top 10. So, you know, you factor in AJ Brown, missing time, you factor in, you know, quarterback changes around the league, you know, so he may slip a little bit, but,
Starting point is 00:09:29 uh, there's still too much upside with him in this offense. And, and Gabriel Davis, Adam, your question is, you can get overdrafted. Probably.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So, because you know, we'll, we'll, we'll overhype him as an industry. Um, you know, there'll people that,
Starting point is 00:09:42 you know, one or two, they'll probably call him a bust. They'll say that don't buy into just the playoff performance and look at more of what the body of work is. I'm sure they're not done tweaking their offense yet, but it's hard to overlook what he can be. I'll go back to something you said about Dawson Knox at the beginning of the season. Attach yourself to good quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It's not a bad idea to attach yourself to a good player like this. One more thing. What does Buffalo do at running back this offseason? Hopefully not much. I mean, Devin Singletary seems to prove himself. I agree. I hope they don't do anything. But if they go splash city at running back,
Starting point is 00:10:13 I wonder if that changes the tenor of the offense, which, I mean, I wouldn't want them to do that, of course. I want them to throw 45 times a game just like everybody else. But if they try and improve that run game this offseason and it works, that's going to hurt everybody in the passing game yeah jamie you combine gabriel davis and darnell mooney this was a full or half ppr league half yeah that in a full ppr league that's a that's a risky combo depending on where you get them and like you get gabriel davis in the ninth round or whatever and whatever but uh you talk about two guys who have a 50...
Starting point is 00:10:48 Gabriel Davis, 56% career catch rate. It's been basically the same both seasons. Darnell Mooney, 60% catch rate. I guess they go deep, right? They're high ADOT guys, especially Davis. And in a PPR league, I guess my concern is Marvin Jones. We're not talking about number one or number two receivers here. I don't think Davis may creep into that conversation
Starting point is 00:11:11 depending on how you build your team. And Mooney might as well. But you're going to rank Davis in your top 24, no? Yeah, but again, it's about your build. So you could still go one running back and three receivers in your first four rounds and get one of those guys. You're not gonna get both at this point because Mooney's type will get out of control and Davis's type is certainly gonna get out of control.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah. All right. I won't be able to draft that receiving core again if Ridley's right. Well, but I think you should be able to, because I don't know that. Not without going receiver, receiver,
Starting point is 00:11:42 receiver, but I don't know that. Okay. I mean, your first two of Keenan Allen and Calvin Ridley would have to be, no, I receiver. But I don't know that... Okay, your first two of Keenan Allen and Calvin Ridley would have to be... No, I don't know. I mean, the way our last two drafts have been,
Starting point is 00:11:52 Ridley's made us a lot of score. I did Dalvin Cook in the first round. Forget Keenan Allen. So it's an upgrade over Keenan Allen. I would have to go four receivers in a row and just go zero RB. It's just not happening. I just don't think that Gabriel Davis...
Starting point is 00:12:03 What round do you think Gabriel Davis should be drafted in? He's going to go in that 45 to 55 range, 45 to 60 range. Wow. Mid-round four to end of round five. I don't think he'll go that high. He has to have a legit breakout. He has to be the number two wide receiver consistently for the Bills. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:22 That feels high to me right now. You know the way this works. now. I'm telling you, you know the way this works. No, I'm not. I'm not disagreeing that it should happen. It feels too early for me. What about you?
Starting point is 00:12:33 In the round four range, it feels early. I think round five, based on how receivers start to fly off the board in that three through five range, he is absolutely getting drafted in the middle of round five.
Starting point is 00:12:41 But should he? I'm not saying he will he. I'm saying should he? It depends. I mean, I can only tell you where I'm going to rank him. So I know where I'm going to rank him is somewhere between 20 and 30. And so he's going to be drafted in that range. That's where those guys go.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And Dave, what do you think? I think he's going to be ranked somewhere between 20 and 30 as well. I might have a hard time putting him in top 24. Yeah, maybe some maybe right around 55. Like Jamie said, 45 to 55, 45 just freaks me out there's no way maybe around 55th overall people are going to start gravitating toward taking him i think if you get him in around six at this point it's it's fine and if you looked at the at the 70s of of adp last year i'll try to get it let's go PPR. This is where I'm thinking guys like
Starting point is 00:13:25 Juju Smith-Schuster and Chase Claypool and Jamar Chase were going off the board. And that's kind of where I thought he might end up. When you're talking about top 60, you're talking about Cooper Cup, DJ Moore, Tyler Lockett, that group. And I didn't think he'd make it there.
Starting point is 00:13:42 So, yeah. It could be splitting hairs. You know, it could be 65, you know, but it's very hard to imagine Josh Allen's number two receiver after the playoff performance he just had
Starting point is 00:13:54 getting out of round six. Okay, so round six last year? Just to kind of put in context, it could be we're chasing Meekle Hardman again. Yeah, right. You know, I don't think that's the case,
Starting point is 00:14:07 but that's same type of feel. Oh, the number two guy opposite these two other great pass catchers in this case is really only one, but you know, loaded offense, great quarterback and the guy doesn't deliver. I don't think Gabriel Davis is that guy though.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I think he's going to be more involved and better. Are you taking him over St. Brown? Um, equanimous? Yes. Okay. What about Amari Cooper? Are you taking him over St. Brown? Equanimous, yes. Okay. What about Amari Cooper?
Starting point is 00:14:31 No, actually, you need to answer the... I want to know the answer for both of you. I would take Amari St. Brown. Amari St. Brown, because that is really interesting. Okay. As of now, as of now, because we don't know what the Lions are going to end up doing. Amari Cooper versus... How could you take Gabriel Davis over Amari Cooper?
Starting point is 00:14:45 I wouldn't. Right. I wouldn't either. And then what about, like, Mooney? Like, are we getting closer with Darnell Mooney? That's the type of player you're looking at, I think. You know, it's... Does Justin Fields take the next step?
Starting point is 00:14:56 Who's the other receiver in Chicago? Who's the coach in Chicago? I mean, you know, there are a lot of questions still to be answered there, but they're a very similar range. I don't think there's a lot of difference between the two of them. I just... I think I can name 25 other receivers i would put ahead of gabriel davis even after yesterday and i love the guy all he does is score touchdowns i don't know
Starting point is 00:15:13 if he can do it for you know nine of 17 games next year maybe he can and if he can then yes he's worth a pick in the top 50 oh the the touchdowns crazy. He has 16 games in his career, regular season games, with four or more targets. And he has scored a touchdown in 10, at least one, in 10 of those 16 games. He has a magnet for the end zone.
Starting point is 00:15:38 All right, so we're 15 minutes in. We haven't even talked about the game, but let's just talk about the game. But also let me promote something here. If you're listening on Spotify, please leave a five-star review. You can do that, obviously, on Apple Podcasts. I got to read some of those Apple Podcasts questions
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Starting point is 00:16:06 plus a recap of the half PPR mock draft also on Tuesday. Anyway, yeah, you know, that game, obviously, probably shouldn't have kicked off at the end there, right?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Probably should have squibbed it considering Tyreek was back there. I get it. I get why they kicked off you know you you're you're trying to tyreek was back there right no yeah somebody said to me i didn't think he was either but um you're trying to you know if you squib it and they and they pick it up short it's the same thing they're just down on the ball right there the idea is to kick it yeah kick it to the five you want to kick it to the five. You want to kick it to the five? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. And then it's, I don't know. It didn't seem like you see, you know, at the end of a game where teams line up their defensive backs really close to the sideline. So you can't get out of balance on them. And it seemed like they were kind of half doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And Kelsey kind of even made reference to that when he, you know, when he had his big catch to set up the field goal. And it's like, they have three timeouts. You don't have to guard the sidelines. You got to cover the field. You don't have to worry about them
Starting point is 00:17:13 getting out of bounds. Leslie Frazier and Todd Bowles at the end of the games yesterday really kind of, you have to question what they were doing. Oh, the zero blitz. Yep. Bruce Arian said, never question it.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But did you see that some of the Bucs... Let me see if I can find this quote from Levante David. I think it was. It was like, I don't think everybody knew what the play call was on the Bucs. They said some people knew, some people didn't. I'm pretty sure Levante David said that. I'll try to find it. And Bruce Arians even said, you don't question the play call.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You just make sure all 11 guys are on the same page. So I think there was a little bit of confusion there. Dave, what stood out to you in that Bills-Chiefs game? What stood out to me in the Bills-Chiefs game? You mean like from the end of it all? Anything. I thought the last two plays, the defense that the Bills set up for those 13 seconds were terrible. You know, these basic prevent defense type plays.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And I thought it was clever that the Chiefs instinctively knew on the first play to just hit the middle of the field and get as many yards as you can. And then Kelsey not getting pressed off the line and just being wide open and able to gain yards after catch. I thought that that was crazy. And you knew as soon as Kelsey caught that second pass that the game was over, or at least it would come down to the coin toss, I guess I should say, but like whoever was winning that coin toss was going to win the game. And now like everybody's going crazy about the overtime rule and what it
Starting point is 00:18:37 should be. I just feel like in the moment, people just wanted to watch more of Mahomes versus Allen, you know, doing their best Madden impersonation and just chucking downfield against each other. But I think the Bills deserve to lose the game based on
Starting point is 00:18:52 how the thing went down at the end. Jamie, what if we did, instead of a coin toss at overtime, because I know people are salty about overtoss, what if they did rock, paper, scissors? I like it. Right, because then it takes a little bit. Then at least you feel a little bit more in control.
Starting point is 00:19:08 People were critiquing Josh Allen for calling tails. It's so stupid. The Chiefs, this rule cost them an opportunity in 2019. That's right. Then you get a chance to
Starting point is 00:19:25 get my homes on the field. I think instead of changing the overtime rule, I have a different proposal. One of these teams should move to the NFC. So this is a Superbowl moving forward as opposed to, you know, just a divisional matchup or a championship game. So I would like to move one of them to the NFC.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah. Trade them with the Giants. The NFC could beat up on the Giants. Yeah. We'll take all the bills guys. Right. They trade him with the Giants. The AFC could beat up on the Giants. Yeah, we'll take all the Bills guys, right? We'll just... The... This could be...
Starting point is 00:19:49 No, like the Giants are actually part of the... No, I wouldn't like that. This could be... This could be, you know, like Packer. This could be what it would be like Aikman, Steve Young, or, you know, every year. Oh, Brady Manning. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Brady Manning, sure. It's a good one. I forgot about those guys. Alright. I've got a feeling we might be saying something similar next week about I'll take Mahomes Burrow every year. I mean, don't forget Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I mean, Trevor Lawrence, if he materializes into what he can become. The AFC is just loaded with if these quarterbacks become what they're capable of being, and obviously you saw the two last night, and we think Burrow is establishing himself, and obviously Herbert as well.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It's going to be fun for many, many years. You know, as Roethlisberger retires and Brady's mulling it over, and who knows what Rodgers does, the league is in great hands with their quarterbacks. Okay, I'm really close to finding this quote here. But in the meantime, I have to find this. Okay, here
Starting point is 00:20:52 you go. Levante David, hurry up. Guys scrambling all over the place trying to get lined up. Just an unfortunate situation. Some people got the call. Some people didn't. It is what it is. They had a great play call lined up. They made a play. It just sucks for us to lose in that matter from battling back the way we did and then yeah bruce arian said never second guess just make sure all 11 are on the same page so that didn't happen that must be
Starting point is 00:21:16 what happened that's from the athletic not everybody got it also the grim reaper quote is awesome when things are grim be the grim reaper Reaper. That's what... It's so awesome. I mean, what a... You know what that is? That's Al Pacino to Jamie Foxx. When things get grim, be the Grim Reaper. Oh, in Any Given Sunday, yeah. So actually, that brings us to our next topic here. I have a movie review I'd like to give.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I saw a movie for the first time. Taken 4? Which one? Taken 4? Which one? Taken 4? Taken, no. Dave, you still haven't watched Taken? No. Not yet?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Okay. I was a little busy this weekend. I was a little busy too, but Friday night, I got... Ozark. Yeah. Maybe it was Thursday.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I think it was actually Thursday night. Yeah. Very fortunate. My wife was getting our daughter, one and a half year old, to sleep, and my wife fell asleep in the process. And I was like, yes, I can watch anything I want tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Whoa, hey, this is a PG show, Adam. Why? All right, so after I watched that, Jamie, I decided it was time to finally see. Come on, this is actually, you're going to finally see. Come on. This is actually, this is, you're going to like this.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Okay. The notebook, the empire strikes back. Oh, nice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yeah. What'd you think? It's good. I mean, it's really good. I don't, I don't think it's one of the best movies I've ever seen, but I felt the same.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I think I actually liked the new hope better when i know nobody has that opinion but it wouldn't be my opinion if it were completely different um but it was really good i'm gonna watch anything yeah well great thank you um yep yep yep yep uh anyway that's that's there you go uh it was good and i think the best thing I would say about it is that when it was done, I was, like, dying to watch Return of the Jedi. It's too bad you didn't watch Return of the Jedi with Princess Leia's bikini. Is that Return of the Jedi? I'm looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Hopefully my wife falls asleep and I can watch that in the dark. Okay. We got some news and notes for you. Also, I want to know. You make me sick, man. I want to know. I want to know when Dave has a moment to himself, what kind of beer he's cracking open. We'll talk about that in just a moment.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Let's do some news and notes. Tom Brady could retire. Aaron Rodgers doesn't know what his future holds. Sean Payton is reportedly considering leaving the Saints. Dave, the NFL landscape could be so different next season. It definitely could. I would be surprised if Brady retires. I would be surprised if Sean Payton leaves New Orleans, although I think this is his way of trying to get more money out of the Saints. So they'll probably get that. Rogers is the one where I think that landscape changes. They are in so much trouble in terms of cap space.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I think the Saints have the they're the most over the cap going into next year. Packers are right behind them and their their way out of it is to trade Aaron Rogers and not tag Devonta Adams and they'll get there I know that they should do everything in their power to keep those two guys and maybe they can and you can always work around cap space but that's going to be tough for them this is going to this could be a very very massive changing of the guard in Green Bay Rodgers is not staying if Adams is gone there's no chance I can't see it with what they have to potentially replace. I mean, you could probably move on from both Smiths on the defensive side,
Starting point is 00:24:47 Preston and Z'Darrius, just based on what their injuries plus production was this past season. Amos is probably somebody they can move on from. Bakhtiari, they obviously got through the season without him. There's some probably big-name players they can move on from. You wonder if there's maybe an Aaron Jones
Starting point is 00:25:04 move just because of the position. But if there's no Adams, there's no Rodgers in Green Bay. I can't see that happening. You know, I don't think he'd want to stay if he doesn't have him there. Why would he? Well, what actually would make a ton of sense for Rodgers if he could find his way, if he does leave. I know Denver, from our standpoint, would be a lot of fun for fantasy. But, you know know he's talked
Starting point is 00:25:25 about um how much playing with a you know above average defense means tim he clearly had one this season uh new orleans will make a ton of sense you know if they could find a way to make that happen obviously like you said dave they're both in sort of salary cap hell but playing for sean payton in in that type of uh scenario i think he would probably relish that because i think part of this is you know if you look at ro, I don't know how much the, the, the weather plays into this, but like who wants to, who wants to play in that, you know? I mean, just how, how, how difficult that is, you know, it's, it, I know that they're,
Starting point is 00:25:55 they're the home team. They should have the advantage, but it's just, you know, why, why would you put yourself through that? If you didn't have to. Well, he seems to like it. You know, he says that it kind of wilts the the weaker teams i'm sure he look he's a packer he loves it you know i mean he's he you know whatever the the off off um off season differences have been with management in front office you know that that's obviously a problem for him but he's he's embodied that team i mean you know it's it's really a shame
Starting point is 00:26:23 that you know for 33 years i think it's been that farvin rogers, you know, it's really a shame that, you know, for 33 years, I think it's been, that Favre and Rodgers have two Super Bowls. I mean, that's just maddening how good those two guys are. I mean, you know, two of the top 10 best quarterbacks of all time and only two Super Bowls combined between the two of them with the same franchise. Yeah, right. But look around the rest of the league.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I mean, there's a team an hour and a half south of there. Or not an hour and a half. That's Milwaukee. Five hours south of Green Bay. That would love to have a championship over the last 30 years. They don't have one. Buffalo would love to have a championship. You know what they've been through. Sure, but they haven't had those two guys. You say you have those two guys. Of course. No, no, no. I completely get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Just so it's out there, Smith and Smith would save them a lot of salary cap space too. So there's a way for them to keep
Starting point is 00:27:05 Rodgers and Adams, but then their defense could be pretty ugly next year. Bakhtiari is staying. His cap number is too high to let go. They have not drafted I'm pretty sure, I don't know this for 100%, but I'm pretty sure this is right.
Starting point is 00:27:21 They have not drafted a running back, wide receiver, or tight end in the first round since Javon Walker in 2002. That's insane. And it's just, he needs it. They're slow and boring, and it works. He makes it work. He makes it work, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 But at the same time, you need another guy to give you an explosive play every now and then, and I think it's catching up to them. It kind of reminds me of the Patriots at the end there, where it's like they just didn't really have enough on offense. They could get by with Brady and Gronk or whatever for the regular season, but for the Packers, their number two receiver is always Aaron Jones. It's just not good enough.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I just know Pete Prisco talks about this all the time. Aaron is always at Aaron Jones and it's just not good enough. The whole thing been, you know, I just know Pete Prisco talks about this all the time. The guy got Valdez scaling more involved. They got to get more because he's their speed guy, you know, so they needed to have something. It doesn't necessarily have to be him, but you know, how to find somebody in that role. Cause you know, they, they've been lucky. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:19 what Devante Adams was based on where he was drafted and becoming the best receiver in the game, you know, that's, that's a blessing to to them and you know what Alan Lazard was finding him off the scrap heap solid player you know Robert Tunyon last year solid player you know these guys like you said Adam they weren't it's like we're investing in this he's going to become something you know they've had to cultivate it and that's credit to Aaron Rodgers and the coaching staff there but yeah I mean you know it's it's uh it's a frustrating situation when you're hoping that your quarterback is going to rescue you time and time again. Whereas like the chiefs, like Nicole Hardman, for example, he failed, but he was a second round pick, you know, like there, there was, there was an investment there
Starting point is 00:28:54 and trying to find something to compliment it. The bills, you know, we've talked about this many times, you know, it started with John Brown and Cole Beasley, and then eventually the trade for Stefan Diggs, you know, you're trying to build around your young quarterback. The Dolphins tried to do that. They tried to go out and get Will Fuller and draft Jalen Waddell and keep Devontae Parker. So it's like you have to do those things to make your quarterback better, and the Packers, they just expect Aaron Rodgers to rescue them,
Starting point is 00:29:18 and he has more times than not, except in the biggest moments. It works. You can't really criticize them because they keep doing really well, but they just fall a little short. Anyway, let's see. Pittsburgh defensive coordinator Keith Butler
Starting point is 00:29:31 retired. The Ravens fired defensive coordinator Wake Martindale. No surprise. Carolina hired Ben McAdoo as their offensive
Starting point is 00:29:39 coordinator. I love that. Yeah. Well, look, he had a good track record when he took over for the giants they went from 28th in points to 12th and then sixth the next year um and then when he became the head coach they stunk they were 26th and 31st in points but you know look his his his first year
Starting point is 00:30:01 as the giants offensive coordinator was also odell beck's rookie season, so I think that had a lot to do with it too. Do you ever forgive him for benching Eli? I don't care. Yes, I've forgiven him, but it was so silly. Yeah, I don't know. Look, he wasn't a terrible offensive coordinator. The thing is, Matt Rule really, really, really wants to run the ball, right? He's like Mike Zimmer.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Is that how you read it? He wants to run the ball, right? I mean, he's like Mike Zimmer. I mean, is that how you read it? I mean, he wants to run the ball like 30 times a game. I mean, I think if he had a better quarterback, that might change his mind. But, you know, he also had a running quarterback too. I just thought that he basically got rid of Joe Brady because they didn't run the ball as much as he wanted to. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Matt Rule, by the way, according to The Athletic, could be interested in the Michigan job if Jim Harbaugh leaves. Matt Ryan most likely will not be traded, according to The Athletic. Chargers GM Tom Telesco said that they need to reduce Austin Eckler's workload. He basically said they really want to get another running back involved there. And he also said that Mike Williams is a big part of the team. We will see.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Jerry Jones was critical of Amari Cooper. Thought that was interesting. And of course, the biggest football story of all was the Giants hiring Joe Shane to be their GM. Only big because we learned how to pronounce Joe Shane's last name.
Starting point is 00:31:26 S-C-H-O-E-N. Pronounce Shane. Congratulations to Benji Haney. Who's Benji Haney, you ask? Well, we have something called the FFT Open. And if you want to be part of it, you can be next year. It's posted in our Facebook group. A guy named Casey Simons runs it.
Starting point is 00:31:43 He does an amazing job. Over 200 teams. This is like our little version of the Scott Fishbowl. Fantasy Football Today listeners competing against each other. Benji Haney won the 2021 Fantasy Football Today Open. Well done, sir. And thank you to Casey for running that. Okay. Dave, I saturday was a tough day for you and me uh in the sports world so i hope you went home from a one point miami hurricanes college basketball loss to their bitter rival florida state and you cracked open a miller light right i didn't quite do that i picked up my wife and then we went out to an outdoor sports bar. And now we can pick up the story where you left off.
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Starting point is 00:33:35 A.J. Brown is. Five catches, 142 yards and a touchdown. He can be uncoverable sometimes. He can also be frustrating. What is A.J. Brown's ceiling, Jamie Eisenberg? I mean, he could be top five. I don't know if he'll ever be number one in this offense with this quarterback, but there's certainly that chance, but he's got to stay healthy. That's the biggest thing. You know, that's, that's certainly been an issue for him through three
Starting point is 00:34:01 seasons. I just think if he's, if he's on the field for, you know, 13 to 15 games, you know, even with Tannehill and not knowing what they're going to do opposite him and Julio Jones is still going to be on the roster, but there's just so much to love about what his game is and, and the potential on the upside that he brings. So he's a, he's an easy player to target around too.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Last year, you finished seventh in fantasy points per game in PPR. He had 70 catches, 1,075 yards, and 11 touchdowns. That feels pretty close to what his ceiling is. So could he crack a top five list at wide receiver in points per game in PPR? Sure. But I don't think he can get much higher than five.
Starting point is 00:34:45 He's somebody that you can debate Stephon Diggs with. Yeah, so let's do it. Diggs or A.J. Brown? I would take A.J. Brown in non-PPR. I would take Stephon Diggs in PPR. I think I'll take Brown in both just because I expect
Starting point is 00:34:58 there to be enough change in that Buffalo offense to maybe drive down those targets for Diggs. I don't want to make it sound like I hate digs by the way, but there was talk about him being maybe still a first round pick. No way. Second round pick is where he's going to end up. I wouldn't surprise me if Brown was taken ahead of digs in a handful of leagues.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I guess the only thing is digs 164 targets in 17 games. And I just don't see how A.J. Brown gets 160 targets, right? Again, we don't know. I don't know if Mike Vrabel, I can only assume he's happy with Todd Downing, but you just never know.
Starting point is 00:35:38 If there's a coordinator change, it's very unlikely that they move on from Tannehill unless there's a trade. Like, hey, Green Bay, we'll send you Ryan Tannehill. You give us Aaron Rodgers. He wants out. Let's make that happen. Then A.J. Brown's stock gets even higher.
Starting point is 00:35:53 But there's no way I would ever take A.J. Brown over Stephon Diggs in PPR. The catch potential is so much higher for Stephon Diggs. Here's something to consider for A.J. Brown, why it's hard to evaluate players, right? So if you look at 2020 and Dave already gave the numbers, 1,073 yards, 11 touchdowns, he was number five per game and non PPR number seven per game and full PPR. Uh, and compare it to 2021, he had the same amount of targets. He actually had just one more target in 2020 than he had in 2021, but the numbers were so much
Starting point is 00:36:26 worse in 2021. So it wasn't even like, well, he was hurt. I mean, he was a little hurt, right? He was banged up, but he was also playing through injuries last year, and bottom line is, 106 targets in 2020, 105 targets in 2021, but he goes from 1,070... How many games? Same amount of games?
Starting point is 00:36:43 14 games last year, 13 games this year. But there's some where he left with injury and whatnot. But 206 more yards and six more touchdowns in 2020 compared to 2021. And the only thing that I can look at that really changed, that seems obvious to me anyway, just looking at the stat page, how about his yards per yards after catch per catch it went from 6.2 yards after catch per catch to 3.9 which probably means he had a few plays in 2020 where he broke a tackle and gained 40 more yards or something like that
Starting point is 00:37:21 compared to 2021 and that could be the difference, you know, in having this incredible year and having a kind of a disappointing year. That's what he does. He makes big plays. But that was the only thing that, how do you explain that? Same amount of targets, 200 fewer yards, five fewer touchdowns. I don't know. Maybe it was that. It's kind of interesting. All right, for Green Bay, here's the Green Bay question. Let's just focus on the running backs, or else we'll spend a half hour talking about Green Bay. What do you expect from the Green Bay running backs, Dave,
Starting point is 00:37:55 with or without Aaron Rodgers? I think they're going to be a big focal point of the offense, obviously. It's a strength that not many teams have to have two running backs like this that they can use in and out. And as long as they're both healthy, I don't think either one's going to get more than 15 touches in a given week. I don't think it's going to be as simple as Aaron Jones plays between the 20s and gets all the catches, and then A.J. Dillon just gets the short yardage work.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I think there'll be some mixing and matching. There will be selective moments where Jones will see more catches Jones is going to get more catches but I bet there's going to be selective moments where Jones is working at the goal line and Dillon is on the sideline there'll be some third downs where Dillon's on the field and Jones will be on the sideline so I'm I'm expecting it to be a little messy but probably something close to what we saw toward the end of the regular season, where they're both going to be useful for fantasy managers, but neither one will have, like,
Starting point is 00:38:51 you can't reliably start one as a top-ten type of running back. Jamie, do you think Aaron Jones is clearly better than A.J. Dillon going into next year as a fantasy asset? Clearly, no. Better in PPR. Maybe clearly in PPR, yes. But no, I don't think so. I think Dave said it best.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's a luxury that they have that most teams don't. But the bigger issue is Aaron Rodgers. So with Rodgers, I think you could feel comfortable about Jones maybe in the back end of round two. I'm most likely going to see him go in round three. For Dylan, probably the earliest you'll see him go is maybe round five in PPR, maybe close to round four in non-PPR, depending on how the running backs come off the board,
Starting point is 00:39:39 and probably similar in half. He was one of the guys, and we'll talk about this tomorrow, that I was looking to see where he was going to go because, you know, people get excited about the, the next, what, you know, the, him, Tony Pollard, those are the two I was looking at, you know, because could you see maybe a changing of the guard? So if Rogers is back, if Adams is back, if it's the same cast of characters from the main guys you're looking at in the Packers, I think you could feel comfortable about Jones as a number two running back and Dylan as a potential flex with the lottery ticket upside.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Now, if Rogers leaves, that becomes where your trust factor goes with these two guys because clearly the scoring potential goes way down depending on who the quarterback is. If it's Jordan Love, then how do you justify Aaron Jones in the third round? Maybe the fourth round because, like Dave said, he'll still be the focal point of the offense, and Dylan probably gets more work. But, my gosh, it's just going to be so hard to say same level of confidence with both those guys.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And just for the record, we've done two mock drafts. Dylan went 60th overall in the full PPR mock and 64th overall in the half PPR mock. Yeah, Dave, I was trying to tease it for tomorrow so people were excited. Yeah, and I mean, you worry without the touchdowns what A.J. Dillon would be. And without Aaron Rodgers, how many touchdowns could he score? Sure. I wonder if Rodgers leaves if they just become so run-heavy. Also, did you already say that, Dave?
Starting point is 00:41:03 I don't know if you did. No, but it makes sense. Also, Matt LaFleur has been an offensive coordinator or a head coach for five seasons now. I keep updating this, that every year. Five seasons, three different teams, and a running back has been second on the team in targets all five years.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Gurley, Deion Lewis, and then three straight years of Aaron Jones. You just wonder, is it the personnel or is it the coach? Yeah, I mean, that's definitely part of it. But it seems like that's a part of the offense. Because, you know, if Devin Funches had ever materialized in Green Bay, would Aaron Jones be second in targets?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Maybe they'll draft like Kenny Pickett or something. There's a chance he could be on the board. They use a little capital if they lose Rodgers. That'd be fun. You think they spend another early round pick on a quarterback? I don't know. If they lose Rodgers, I think it's got to be on the table. But that would obviously be throwing in the towel on Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:42:06 He did not look very good. Limited sample size. Real quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about the Bucs, who also might lose their quarterback, and what would that mean? Boy, it was pretty good, actually, the last time they did not have Tom Brady. They had two
Starting point is 00:42:21 wide receivers who were top four per game. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. What does possible sound like for your business? It's having the spend to powers your scale with no preset spending limit. More cash on hand to grow your business with up to 55 interest-free days and the ability to reach further with access to over 1400 airport lounges worldwide redefine possible with business platinum that's the powerful backing of american express terms and conditions apply visit amex.ca slash business platinum so tom brady you're coming back to the tampa bay buccaneers i really hope so because because I think at least you know what you're going to get
Starting point is 00:43:05 from Godwin and Evans. You're going to get great fantasy production if Tom Brady's back. So let's talk about this team. And Jamie, you can have the first word. How do you evaluate the Bucs passing game
Starting point is 00:43:15 with and without Tom Brady going into 2022? Yeah, and you kind of said something that we should also clarify. So are we just assuming Chris Godwin is back and staying in Tampa Bay? And what about Gronk and what about fournette because they have so many you know this is either run it back or blow it up because they're you know i can't imagine that
Starting point is 00:43:35 these guys stay if you know it's doubtful blaine gabbert but kyle trask or you know if they you know bring in somebody else which probably would be the route that they go, but you know, Brady's going to keep those guys most likely until certainly Gronk and maybe Godwin. But, um, so I think if, if, if Brady's there, you just count on them still doing the same thing, you know, Evans and Godwin, assuming Godwin is a hundred percent by training camp, which, you know, hopefully is with an ACL tear that you're looking at two top 15 caliber wide receivers. We know what the upside can be. They could be top 10, but probably still safe to treat them as round three picks.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Godwin better in PPR. Evans better in non-PPR because of the touchdown potential. If there is no Brady and Godwin's gone, then Evans becomes probably still a round three pick depending on the quarterback because you know what the track record is. Basically, it's 1,007. He rolls out of bed getting that. But it just won't feel as comforting. You know, Winston, you knew what you were getting because of Bruce Arians.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And I think if Brady leaves, Arians might consider going as well. You know, maybe he just decides, okay, I've had my run. I'm going to turn it over to either Bowles or to Leftwich and let them have their opportunity to be a head coach because they're certainly deserving. Bowles going to turn it over to either Bowles or to Leftwich and let them have their opportunity to be a head coach because they're certainly deserving. Bowles obviously done it before. That's an offseason worth monitoring for sure.
Starting point is 00:44:52 What happens in Tampa Bay changes the landscape of a lot of fantasy assets and Gronk probably retires again. Dave, do you think that maybe they could bring Jameis Winston back? Let's say Brady's gone. He's available. Like last time Brady...
Starting point is 00:45:05 He's available. Yeah, right. Last time Brady was not on the team. He said he loved him. Yeah, it would make sense, right? A lot of turnovers, but he got better at that in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:45:14 But he threw for 5,000 yards. He was a top five quarterback. He was top eight per game. And like I said, Chris Godwin and Mike Evans were top four per game. Godwin was the number two wide receiver in football and fantasy that year.
Starting point is 00:45:26 And Rashad Perryman was one of the waiver wire darlings. Oh my gosh, Rashad Perryman, his last six games, he had like 500 yards and five touchdowns or something like that. I actually have that somewhere in the notes. It was 500 yards and 560 yards and five touchdowns in his last five games, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:42 That's Bruce Arians for you. I mean, would this feel different than the Packers losing Rodgers? I think they could still be competitive because I can't imagine Bruce Arians having a quarterback that can't push the ball down the field. If Brady leaves, whether they bring back James or not, it'll be somebody they'll find somebody who has a strong arm and they'll
Starting point is 00:46:08 just hope that that guy can not make a lot of mistakes. And if they can do that, then it'll be a similar type of offense. The defense is still good. I know that they didn't win on Sunday, but they're still a good defense and they can find running backs and the offensive line is going to be good. I don't think that line is changing that much
Starting point is 00:46:25 without looking at their cap situation. They have money to spend. They're not up against it like the Saints or the Packers are. So, obviously, it would go without saying that the offense would be amazing if Brady stays. If they get a great quarterback to replace Brady, like Rodgers, for example, goes there. Some crazy scenario.
Starting point is 00:46:43 That would be amazing. And we'd be all systems go on everybody that's left in that passing game. And yeah, I think Godwin stays. But if it's a worst-case scenario where they don't have a quarterback that can throw the ball 50 yards downfield, I think you'd feel that a little bit. I think Evans and Godwin probably wouldn't be regarded as top 12-ish type of wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:47:04 If I were Rodgers, that was the first place I'd go if Brady walks. Warm, good defense, perfect scenario. And finally, he'll get to just air the ball out, throw as many times as he wants. They've been top five and past him. He'd have to deal with finally throwing a few interceptions. He wouldn't have Devontae, though, would he? Unless Devontae... If Godwin leaves and you say, Devontae, though, would he? Unless Devontae...
Starting point is 00:47:26 If Godwin leaves and you say, Devontae, let's go to Florida. Maybe there's a trade to be made. They franchise both receivers and they trade them for each other. And Godwin goes to Green Bay. Let's say if Rodgers goes to Tampa Bay and Godwin and Evans are there.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Let's say no Gronk, no Brady. Where do you rank Aaron Rodgers? I mean, I think he's fourth for me right now. Yeah. Maybe three. Maybe he'd go ahead of Justin Herbert. Yeah. Because you just know how much they throw.
Starting point is 00:47:57 They've been top six in past attempts each of the last three years under Arians. I just wonder if Brady leaves, why is Bruce Arians hanging on? Because he's got Aaron Rodgers. Right. In this scenario. In that scenario, yes. Right. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Why would he stick around to coach Jameis again? Well, you know, maybe he wants to prove himself. You know, I can do it without Brady, just like Bill. All right, Buffalo. Speaking of Bills,
Starting point is 00:48:22 I was going to ask where you're ranking Gabriel Davis and also ask about Stefan Diggs. We already did that. We got a Singletary top again. Yeah, I mean, we've done that, but we certainly could. How about Dawson Knox? We talked about Singletary, not today, but in recent shows.
Starting point is 00:48:37 How about Dawson Knox? Yeah, top 12, top 10, top 8. Where's Dawson Knox for you guys? I think once you get past, there's, top 10, top 8. Where's the Dawson Knox for you guys? So I think once you get past, there's going to be, I think, a consensus, what, five? You're going to have Kelsey, Andrews, whatever order, Waller, Kittle, Pitts. Those I think are going to be a consensus top five.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I think once you get past that group and then you get to the Hawkinson, Goddard, Ertz, depending on where he goes. Knox is in that group. Schultz, depending on where he goes. Friermuth, maybe. Fant, maybe. That's, I think, where Dawson Knox is going to live.
Starting point is 00:49:17 He's not going to be somebody that you're going to be actively targeting, but you know that you can get some quality production from him. There'll be some highs clearly, as we saw in the season, you know, you wonder what it would have been if he didn't break his hand and had that, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:31 I think it was like a two and a half game stretch where he missed. There was a bi-week in there. You know, his, his stats probably look a little bit better, but again, Adam, you,
Starting point is 00:49:38 you nailed this. It's attaching your, yourself to a good quarterback. And that's kind of what Knox became. You know, he became a reliable option in a very good offense that throws the ball good quarterback. And that's kind of what Knox became. You know, he became a reliable option in a very good offense that throws the ball a lot. And he proved himself.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And I think that gave Josh Allen the comfort and confidence to continue going to him. And so there are games where he's going to disappear because he's not going to be a five plus catch guy on a weekly basis. But the touchdown potential is there almost all the time. So he's not someone you target, but he's someone you settle for
Starting point is 00:50:05 and you can feel comfortable starting when the season opens. Dave, he has fewer than 12 yards in three of his last five games. That's not good. You're hoping for more involvement from Dawson Knox, and we can't guarantee that that's going to be the case. It was nice that he averaged 10.5 PPR points per game last year, and he's entering a contract year, so he'll be motivated to play out in a big way.
Starting point is 00:50:28 But I honestly think that he's going to be a touchdown-dependent tight end most weeks. There will be some games, we saw it this year, where he had four, five, six-plus catches, and the yardage was good. But you're starting him because you're hoping he scores a touchdown, and because Josh Allen is his quarterback, and it's the perfect type of tight end to settle for
Starting point is 00:50:46 when you get to round nine plus. This was the group that he's going to be in for 2021. You're not going to like it, but this is the tight ends that we were drafting. It was Gusecki. It was Logan Thomas. It was Robert Tunyon. It was maybe Higby, maybe
Starting point is 00:51:05 Fant, um, you know, the, the guys that were, you know, like seven through 12, you know, so, uh, we kind of knew that the Goddard situation going into the season, we had hoped that it was going to do what eventually did, which was split those two guys up. And then you saw, you could start both of them and they were, you know, very good. Um, but that's the, that's the type of tight end Dawson Knox and Pat Fryer, which are going to be, you know very good um but that's the that's the type of tight end dawson knox and pat fryer muth are going to be you know touchdown dependent guys we don't know who fryer muth's quarterback's going to be but um knox i think is somebody like i said you you'll settle for and close to double digit rounds who do you like better knox or fryer muth knox knox knox or um oh that's the hard one for me is Fant.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And I think that one will be T.B.T. Right. On the quarterback. But I think it's going to be where does Schultz go? And I know for me, I'll probably just fall back in love with Blake Jarwin again if he's the de facto number one. If he's still there. I think he's free. They have to cut him.
Starting point is 00:52:01 He's still under contract. They could re-sign Schultz. That's a move that they probably cut him. You know, he's still under contract. So they could re re sign Schultz. That that's, that's a move that they probably should make. But where does Ertz go? You know, that's a big factor too. You know,
Starting point is 00:52:11 so I think Knox is just somebody that, again, you know, you, you just kind of see how the draft unfolds for you. So if you miss on the top five and then that, I think then the next two, I think are going to end up probably being Goddard and,
Starting point is 00:52:23 and, and Hawkinson. And so then it's that, you know, eight through 12 to 15. Here's Scott fish always watching saying Matthew Stafford eats breakfast with Cooper cup. Josh Allen plays X-Box with Dawson Knox. Is it a sign for the future? Maybe best friends, right? All right, guys, listen, my wife wife's gonna be out for the next like 30
Starting point is 00:52:47 minutes so i gotta wrap this up um i'll uh i'm actually not on the show tomorrow that'll be dave jamie and chris talking about the half ppr mock draft and some running back reflections thanks so much for listening everybody thanks so much for watching talk to you tomorrow on fantasy football today

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