Fantasy Football Today - Best Free Agent Destinations (03/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 8, 2021

Curtis Samuel to the Packers? Dak Prescott to the Broncos? Allen Robinson to the Giants? What are some of our favorite free agent destinations (2:30)? And what do the listeners have to say? We weigh i...n on Prescott (5:25), what would happen to Davante Adams if GB adds a WR (10:30), the best spots for Aaron Jones (14:10), Marlon Mack (15:15), Deshaun Watson (20:10) and Allen Robinson (25:30) ... The Ravens introduced a new overtime idea called "Spot and Choose" (28:50). We'll tell you about it and tell you what we like and dislike. Then we've got our news and notes (32:00) including the possibility of Chase Edmonds being a workhorse RB ... More free agent talk for the remainder of the show (40:00)! Is Chris Godwin's best chances for Fantasy success with TB or with a new team? Can Kenyan Drake still be a solid Fantasy starter? Where do we want Jameis Winston to end up? ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Subscribe to the FFT in 5 podcast on Apple, Spotify, Google, or wherever you listen to FFT. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @CTowersCBS, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. We have got a very busy 10 days or so coming up here in the fantasy football world. Welcome to the show here on Monday. Have to look at the date. March 8th.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's March 8th, it turns out. Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg, Chris Towers, Heath Cummings. We're going to talk about free agency. We're going to give you our favorite destinations for the big time free agents and hear from you, the listeners. Where do you want to see Aaron Jones go? Corey Davis, Curtis Samuel. He's kind of a popular one. People want to see
Starting point is 00:01:49 Curtis Samuel get an opportunity to shine. So this is fantasy football today. Make sure you're listening to fantasy football today in five for a five minute version of what we're going to talk about. And before we started the show, Jamie said, what's the over under on the amount of emergency pods that we're going to do this week and next week? Big breaking news pods. I'm going to set it at four and a half, Jamie. Are you going over or under? I'm going to go under because there'll probably be a few
Starting point is 00:02:15 that we combine. Okay. That's pretty good. Pretty good reasoning. Chris, over-under, four and a half. Just this week? No, next week too. too okay the next two weeks i'll i think i'll take the over okay heath i'm looking forward to the times when like we do an emergency podcast we get it published like 30 minutes later and then five minutes after we publish it there is no more breaking news so i'm gonna go over over okay yeah i think Okay. Yeah, I think it's going to be exactly four and a half.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I don't know how that's going to work out, but he'll write on the money. Well, he set it up for you. The half will be the one that we don't do, the one that we don't run. Or is it like the breaking news right after one we already did? No, no, no. You'll do one, and then you'll say we can't use that.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We won't publish it. Okay, okay. All right, good. Four and a half. That works out perfectly. Email us, by the way, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. So I asked the listeners, I want to see blank go to blank or something like that.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Or I want blank to go to blank. I thought I would get some colorful answers. Not really. People stuck to the football rules. I want Dak to go to Denver, Curtis Salmon to the Packers. We'll get to those in just a moment. Tell me your favorite free agent and NFL team combination. Heath, why don't I start with you?
Starting point is 00:03:33 Your favorite player team combination. I guess it would be... I don't even know. How reasonable do we have to be? It's March. You can do whatever you want. Kenny Galladay to the Texans, which makes Deshaun Watson happy.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And they stay together with Kenny Galladay and Deshaun Watson. Okay, that's cute. Does Fuller come back? No, Kenny Galladay is taking Will Fuller's job. Chris, your favorite combination? Yeah, if we're not staying realistic, then it would be Dak Prescott to either Denver or Carolina. Why not Dallas?
Starting point is 00:04:14 Because he's already there. We know what that looks like. I'd like him to just stay there. So would I. Imagine how far he could throw the ball, though, in the altitude in Denver. Jamie, your favorite combo? imagine how far he could throw the ball though in the altitude in denver jamie your favorite combo uh i'll say aaron jones to the falcons yeah aaron jones to the falcons
Starting point is 00:04:33 would that make arthur smith walk back on his running back by committee declaration um probably so i can't imagine that they sign it running back they're going to make that person being a committee. Unless by committee he means another person touching the ball. Arthur Smith said, The reality is that we'll get multiple backs in here and we'll have the way we trust our schemes and the way we teach the details of it and we'll commit to it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 That should provide hope to people because of that mindset. That was a weird quote. All right, well, let's see what the people had to say. But before we do that, the most exciting thing I did this weekend was Peru's Paramount+. It's really awesome, and you should definitely get Paramount+.
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Starting point is 00:06:22 It's streaming right now. So the fill in the blank, I want blank to go to blank. Forrest Cunningham said, I need Dak to go to Denver. So there you go, Chris. Somebody else wants Dak to go to Denver. Yeah, look, I get.
Starting point is 00:06:37 He's not going anywhere anyway. He's going to stay in Dallas and so it doesn't really matter, but my thing all offseason has been I could see Denver being an And so it doesn't really matter. But, you know, my thing all offseason has been. I could see Denver being an incredibly fun offense for fantasy purposes in 2022 or 2021. But I just don't buy that it's going to happen with Drew Locke. I know there are people who are high on him, but I just I can't see him getting the most out of that offense. And so when we're talking about Deshaun Watson landing spots or Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson or any quarterback
Starting point is 00:07:10 who may become available, Denver's going to be pretty much at the top of my list. If they don't have a good quarterback or at least a better quarterback, it's going to be hard for me to see Cortland Sutton, Jerry Judy, Noah Fant, all these guys maximizing their value. And I'd really like to see that. What if they draft a quarterback? You know, you see a lot of mock drafts
Starting point is 00:07:36 that have them trading up. They have the ninth pick. So maybe that's Trey Lance or feels like it might be a little bit of a reach for Mac Jones. People are pretty split on him, but if it's a rookie quarterback who would be confident in, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:52 Sutton, let's say he's, I think with John always track record of picking out quarterbacks out of college, you'd have to be confident in whoever they chose to trade up for. How tall is Mac Jones? He's tall. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. He might, it might be him. Oh yeah. I mean, you're starting to hear andy dalton to denver um as a guy to challenge drew lock i think the thing about drew and obviously chris is right you know he's not shown you enough to say that those guys can maximize their potential with him but would it shock you, anybody, if Drew Locke can get to like a Kirk Cousins type level or a Jared Goff-like level? And I'm not saying that he is going to because I don't trust it, but that type of thing wouldn't surprise me. And what I mean by that is making the guys around him better because we've seen Kirk Cousins support multiple weapons in his offense. We've seen
Starting point is 00:08:43 Jared Goff support multiple weapons in his offense. We've seen Jared Goff support multiple weapons in his offense. And those guys obviously aren't considered of the top tier elite level quarterbacks. And so Locke doesn't have to be special. It doesn't have to be great. It doesn't have to be, you know, pro bowl or hall of fame or any of those types of things. But for fantasy, if he can just make those guys successful again, maybe not maximizing their potential, they can still be pretty good. I think the good Jared Goff year and the leap throwing the ball that Josh successful again maybe not maximizing their potential they can still be pretty good i i
Starting point is 00:09:05 think the good jared goff year and the leap throwing the ball that josh allen made last year are enough reason to to hope that drew luck could still get better it's the same reason you'd still hold on to daniel jones the starter yeah well it's like we saw from drew lock in that stretch last year and we know it wasn't sustainable um because a lot of it was those fourth quarter third quarter you know rallies um where you know he was having to throw a lot and and we saw what those guys could potentially be tim patrick had that great stretch no fan play well uh jerry judy what he was dropping the ball so you know it'd be nice to see and especially i think if you add the other piece in a healthy Courtland Sutton,
Starting point is 00:09:47 you can't sway coverage to those guys because it's impossible. Does Jared Goff's 2018 season, I guess it was, where they went to the Super Bowl, and let me just look up his numbers. He had a 101.1 passer rating. He threw for 293 yards per game, 32 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. Actually threw for 293 yards per game, 32 touchdowns, 12 interceptions.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Actually, it was pretty good in 2017, too, by the way. Does that make you nervous at all about Josh Allen? Same year. It was third season. No. They're physically different. So different. Oh, yeah. I would bet on Josh Allen being worse in 2021
Starting point is 00:10:26 than he was in 2020. I think there will be regression coming. And I think it's probably... But regression how? Regression statistically or regression as play? Probably a bit of both. Certainly statistically. See, that I can buy into
Starting point is 00:10:41 just because I think they'll run the ball better because I don't think they can do what they did and be successful. They got to find a run game to support their passing game. So statistically, I think he comes down. But in his play, I mean, the nice thing that Buffalo has done is the building of Josh Allen. You know, and the report today, like from Chris Mortensen, about trying to build around, the Eagles want to build around Jalen Hurts.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Like, that's the way you have to go about building your offense. Like, they started with the offensive line. They bring in John Brown, they bring in Stefan Diggs. It's been a three-year process to make this guy better. And, you know, just talking to Stefan Diggs at the Superbowl, he said, I, I think they felt like I was their missing piece, you know, and it was refreshing to hear somebody say that about himself. You know, he's like, I think Josh Allen needed me, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:23 to come in and make him the quarterback that he was. It'll be interesting to see what they do to enhance it this offseason as well. So I don't know if he regressed as a player, but I do think he's going to regress statistically. Yeah, well, they also have talked about how they need to upgrade at tight end. So maybe that's the next step
Starting point is 00:11:36 in that development. Okay, next fill in the blank. Rob says he wants to see Curtis Samuel on the Packers. Curtis Samuel to the Packers. Curtis Samuel to the Packers. Let me just tell you, Devontae Adams had a 32.3% target share last year. In the last three seasons, it's been 28.2%, 26.5%, and 32.3%. So big jump in 2020.
Starting point is 00:11:59 That's for Devontae Adams. And those are based on just the games he played. He missed some time in each season, two of the three. So anyway, do you want to see another good wide receiver go to the Packers? Because it has just been a one-man show
Starting point is 00:12:15 for the last three years with Adams. I think that's why Curtis Samuel would fit well there. Well, but he's never earned a 20% target share. He can go in and get it. He was good in the last eight games of the year. I don't know if he... He was so much better than Robbie Anderson the last eight games of the year.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And I know it's just eight games, I know. But he came on strong. The one thing I would say is, given the flexibility of Curtis Samuel's skill set and the different ways that you can use him, he's not just a traditional wide receiver. He can make plays down the field, but he can also make plays out of the backfield.
Starting point is 00:12:50 We expect Green Bay to lose at least one of Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones, if not both. And those guys had 98 targets last season. So it is possible that they could acquire someone like Curtis Samuel and use him in a way that doesn't necessarily take away from Devontae Adams. Adams, you probably take the under on a 30% target share next year either way, just because it's really hard to sustain a 32% target share. But someone like Curtis Samuel, who you can get him the ball in a lot of different ways without having to force targets towards him, I think that could be sort of an ideal addition for the Packers
Starting point is 00:13:27 in terms of making the offense better without necessarily taking away from Devontae. Okay, Heath, so I cut you off. That's fine. Yeah, it was a funny comment that you made. But I wanted to throw a little love at Curtis Samba because he really did play well. Is Green Bay a good landing spot for a wide receiver you're excited about? They run the ball so much. You wonder if a number two wide receiver is going to be really good there, and you wonder if it's going to take just enough away from Devontae Adams
Starting point is 00:13:56 to make him a little less exciting, a little less. Yeah, I don't worry so much about the second part, unless if it's Curtis Samuel or someone of that. And I wasn't trying to insult him. I was just saying that he's never demanded a large target share. So I don't think he would have much of an impact on Devontae Adams at all. I don't think it's a particularly good spot for a wide receiver. It's a good spot for a guy to go and possibly have an
Starting point is 00:14:26 outlier season where he's highly efficient without very many targets and produces in a way that we say, well, he's not going to be able to do that again. But I don't think it's a good way for a guy who we want to be excited about and draft in the first seven rounds of a fantasy draft.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Okay, so I'll just throw to everybody here. If Curtis Samuel goes to the Packers, are you drafting him in the first seven rounds? Is he a round seven picker earlier? No. No. Okay. I think, by the way, that he has been second
Starting point is 00:14:57 among wide receivers in rushing yards two straight years. I know he was in 2020 behind Cordero Patterson, who played a lot some running back. But he does, yeah, he had 200 rushing yards. I think he's been second two straight years, so he does give you that added element. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Next up, Aaron Jones. Rob says Aaron Jones to the Dolphins. Twonzie says, I want Aaron Jones to go to the CFL because my buddy and chief competition has him in Dynasty. So, Jamie, I'd prefer him to go to the CFL because my buddy and chief competition has him in Dynasty so Jamie I'd prefer him to go to the Dolphins than the CFL
Starting point is 00:15:29 but that is the hot not necessarily a rumor there was a little bit of a rumor that you know their mutual interest there but people want to see that Aaron Jones to the Dolphins do you want to see that? Yeah it'd be great
Starting point is 00:15:41 you know I think we sort of touched on this when the report, I think it was from the Miami Herald that they were interested in Aaron Jones. Um, they have a need, they have a good offensive line. They have a good system in place. Uh, we saw last year that guys who were, you know, last round picks, or I forget if miles gas was a six round pick or a seventh round picks of on knock med was picked up off the street. Those guys had great fantasy production in this backfield. So I think Aaron Jones and his pedigree and what he would be able to do would
Starting point is 00:16:10 help the offense. It would help, you know, young quarterback and to a tongue of Iloa. Clearly he's proven he can catch the ball at backfield. So, you know, Aaron Jones goes to a situation like Miami where they featured their guy,
Starting point is 00:16:20 you know, once they got to feeling comfortable with miles gas, and that was the best part about it. So even with the change in, inators from chan gailey to the uh the duo that the dolphins will use to call plays i think aaron jones can still be a top tier uh number one fantasy running back in miami okay and how about steve says i want marlin mack to go to seattle remember marlin mack who likes that one i think that's kind of fun marlin mack to seattle uh he Marlon Mack to go to Seattle. Remember Marlon Mack? Who likes that one?
Starting point is 00:16:47 I think that's kind of fun. Marlon Mack to Seattle. He was a good running back trying to get where he finished the last two years. He was in 2019 15th in non-PPR, 22nd in PPR. And in 2018 per game, he was 12th in non-PPR, 19th in PPR. Didn't catch a lot of passes, but I don't know. I feel like Marlon Mack
Starting point is 00:17:07 could fill the Chris Carson role. What do you guys think? Yeah, I mean, it depends on how he looks coming off that knee surgery. And, you know, he does feel a little like Lamar Miller where he had the knee injury
Starting point is 00:17:20 and we were like, well, if he lands somewhere, you know, maybe he could be an interesting fantasy option. And, you know, maybe he could be an interesting fantasy option. And maybe he's enough of a middling replacement level type NFL running back that it doesn't necessarily happen for him. But he is still only like 25. Yeah, I think he's still pretty young.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So, yeah, if he looks okay and lands in Seattle, I think he could do the Chris Carson role. I hadn't thought about him very much, but he might also make a lot of sense. Atlanta is in salary cap. Yeah. All kinds of trouble. He might be the kind of guy that would make a lot of sense there, too. Yeah, the Falcons are still $15 million over the cap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Projected cap. Achilles is a tough injury to come back from. It wasn't the knee. It was his Achilles. Oh, that's right. That's right. Ruptured. So even though he's young, hopefully he can still bounce back and regain some of what
Starting point is 00:18:11 he had before the injury. But, you know, prior to 2020, you can make a case. He was like a poor man's Chris Carson. You know, guy that didn't really show a lot in the passing game. But if you threw him the ball, he had some success. At least he showed that as a rookie. He's a tough runner. I mean, you know, he would make a lot of sense in Seattle. That's a good call. Atlanta would make a lot of
Starting point is 00:18:27 sense as well if they do want to go the committee route. So those are two probably realistic scenarios. The one you don't want to see is him going back to the Colts because the fact that they would know him and trust him, that would probably ruin Jonathan Taylor a little bit just because they would probably try and force him in there a little bit more. So as long as he's not back in Indianapolis for me, I think anywhere he goes would be an upgrade force him in there a little bit more. So as long as he's not back in Indianapolis for me, I think anywhere he goes would be an upgrade for him based on what the scenario is in Indianapolis. Matt Mormon says,
Starting point is 00:18:51 I want Chris Godwin to the Colts, Aaron Jones to the jets, Fuller to wherever Watson ends up, Carson to the Falcons, Gallaudet to the Cardinals. Ooh, Gallaudet to the Cardinals is my least favorite. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:03 I don't love that. Godwin to the Colts, Jones to the jet. I don't, I still don't want anybody good to go to the Cardinals is my least favorite. I don't love that. Goblin to the Colts, Jones to the Jets. I still don't want anybody good to go to the Jets. Is that because of your brother or because of your Giants fan? I like the Jets. My son won't shut up about the Jets. He's got the stupid Jets book
Starting point is 00:19:16 and wants me to read it to him every day. I wore Yankees hats for you. Thank you. Your son's baseball. Softball? Baseball? Baseball. Baseball team is the yankees that's good no i like the jess they were the worst offense in football last year i know they're gonna get better throw it out i know you don't only go up you don't have to completely throw it i'm just saying there's they have a long way to go from the worst in
Starting point is 00:19:43 football to a destination I'm excited at. You know what would make them better, Adam? Good players. Good players. A good quarterback. You know what I mean? I mean, again, there's a pretty neat,
Starting point is 00:19:55 defined track record of players that leave Adam Gase and actually show that they can play football. I know. I just don't know that 2021 is going to be there. I feel like maybe 2022.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Well, they don't have to win the Super Bowl for us. If they're the 23rd best offense in the NFL, which feels a little high, Aaron Jones could still be a very good fantasy running back. Yes. You know, Aaron Jones has never even averaged 15 carries per game. Do you think he goes to a place where he gets that kind of work? I think Miami would probably force that.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I think the Jets would probably force that. That's a lot of carry. I mean, it's not to be taken lightly, 15 carries a game, but he's not a workhorse. The Jets make so much sense, though, because there's a need and obviously the floor connection. You can see that happening if they want to pay for a running back,
Starting point is 00:20:50 but they also just got burned the last time they paid for a running back in a really bad way. Granted, it's a much different scenario. They're not going to pay that much, but Le'Veon Bell hurt their franchise in a big way. Also, he's averaged basically 18 touches per game each of the past two years.
Starting point is 00:21:06 17.8 and 17.9. That's plenty. That's good. Jack Foster wants Deshaun Watson to go to the 49ers. Yeah, that was one of the ones on my list. It'd be interesting to see what the 49ers offense would look like with a quarterback that Kyle Shanahan trusts more because he's done such a good job with that team
Starting point is 00:21:34 of creating opportunities for guys to make plays with the ball in their hands. You know, this is something that you look at. Whoever plays quarterback, you know, even when it's not Jimmy Garoppolo, they're always a relatively efficient passing offense in terms of yards per attempt because Kyle Shanahan schemes up the offense so well and they have so many guys who can make plays with the ball in their hands.
Starting point is 00:21:56 What that could look like with a quarterback who can make plays on his own rather than, I think Jimmy Garoppolo's kind of a gets what's there type of guy. I think Jimmy Garoppolo is kind of a, you know, get what's there type of guy. I think that'd be really interesting. They may have a top five receiving core by the end of the season. If everybody plays to their upside. Now, granted the tight end is there,
Starting point is 00:22:17 but if I, you can Debo Samuel can take big leaps, obviously. But you know, when you have, when you have a guy like Kittle, that gives you a nice head start. So if, if the quarterback situation does get improved, whether it's Watson, which is the, uh, ideal situation, or, you know, they're in the Sam Darnold market, you know, uh, I think Peter King reported that today that that's, or at least he suggested it, that that's a team that you could see Sam Darnold ending up with. But, um, yeah, the 49ers are going to be an interesting team for sure.
Starting point is 00:22:46 But Deshaun Watson, I think, still remains a top tier, top five fantasy quarterback in that situation. You know what I was thinking before the show? I wanted to do a little research on this. How many times do we see a team... It's not in the ringer? Shut up. How many times do we see a team have three fantasy relevant fantasy?
Starting point is 00:23:07 See, fantasy relevance, kind of a weak term. Starting caliber. Yeah. I don't want to say must start, but somewhere in between must start and fantasy relevant three receivers, whether wide receivers or tight end. And one of them would have to be a tight end, you think, on the same team. Do you have to start them or do they have to perform as starters? I would say perform as starters. You know, Julius Thomas, 2013 and 2014 Broncos were the first ones that came to mind.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm just looking at it now. It's Demarius Thomas, Eric Decker, and Julius Thomas one year. Demarius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders, and Julius Thomas the next year. But you're talking about you've got to have a really special offense, I think. Did the Panthers count last year? Yeah, the Panthers were close. The Steelers were there last year. At the end of the season with Antonio Brown, when he was playing well,
Starting point is 00:23:54 I think people were starting those three guys. Dallas. Yeah, Brown. I don't know if Brown was quite good enough for those eight games. Well, I mean, if you're talking about, let's say, like above 50% started in most leagues, like I don't know how you want to qualify this, but, you know, I think we got to a point with those three guys because Evans and Godwin
Starting point is 00:24:12 were in almost everybody's lineups. And then you can go two years ago. I don't remember the health situation of Cup and Woods, but when Higby was on his tear. Right, but Cup wasn't really doing much when Higby went crazy. He was catching touchdowns. But I still think people were starting him. I know, but I'm saying Higby went crazy. He was catching touchdowns. But I still think people were starting him.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I know, but I'm saying perform like starters. And so for Antonio Brown, I mean, you've got to kind of take away week 17 because Mike Evans got hurt in that game and Brown and Goblin. Also, Brown got hurt in week 16, didn't he? Did he get hurt? I don't know. He still had a touchdown in that game. Oh, that was the Detroit game. They played half a game. Remember, they kicked the crap out of Detroit that game.
Starting point is 00:24:48 That is one of my concerns with San Francisco. The point is, sorry, just to wrap it up, you're talking about either a ton of passing yards or for Pittsburgh, right? We talked about Claypool, Juju, Deontay Johnson. They led the NFL in pass attempts by a bunch. So you know San Francisco is not really going to do that. I think that the thing about Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch is if they make this move,
Starting point is 00:25:10 it's not to just be ground and pound and play defense. They're not making this move to, you know, put handcuffs on Deshaun Watson. They're making this move to let him be who he is to some capacity. But yeah, and I think, Adam, like to your point, I think if George Goodell plays 16 games this year, it's not likely that both Brandon Iyuk and Debo Samuel perform as starters. I agree with that. Right. Yeah, and Jamie, my point was less about Watson,
Starting point is 00:25:34 more, I guess, about having all three of those. No, no, but I think just in terms of the offensive philosophy, I think anybody that's going to go get Russell Wilson or go get Deshaun Watson or make a franchise altering deal is not doing it to, you know, fit him into their system. It's going to have to be like what the Bucks did, where you're going to make Tom Brady feel comfortable and allow him to be him while also doing what you do as a coach and coordinator. Yeah. And it's good news for Watson, no matter where he ends up, here's where Houston has ranked in past attempts per game last four seasons.
Starting point is 00:26:05 23rd, 27th, 20th, and 23rd. They've never been higher than 20th with Watson, and he's been a top six or seven quarterback every year per game. That's partially because he gets sacked so much and partially because he runs so much, too. Yeah, but he doesn't have to throw the ball. They haven't run a lot of plays, really, with him.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Let me see where they ranked in plays per game. 12th, 7th, 17th, and 32nd. Last year, they were last in the NFL in plays. All right, last one from the listeners. Can you imagine going from Bill O'Brien to Kyle Shanahan? Just what that would be like. Pete Farmer, I want Allen Robinson to go to the Giants. What does everybody have against Allen Robinson?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Well, don't you want a wide receiver who's proven that he could be good with bad quarterback play? Where would Daniel Jones rank on the all-time quarterbacks Allen Robinson has caught footballs from? He's still worse than Blake Bortles at this point. No, he's not. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:04 He's not anything close to Blake Bortles at this point. No, he's not. Yeah, for sure. He's not anything close to Blake Bortles' best season. For fantasy. I think if we let Daniel Jones be Blake Bortles, Daniel Jones would be better. You're right that he's not as good as Bortles' best season. He's not as good as Trubisky. I think he's going to be better than Trubisky. But he's not as good as Trubisky.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I don't know if I can say that. Trubisky's so bad't know if I can say that. Trubisky's so bad. But Jones at least runs more. It would be a good fit for the Giants. I don't know how good it would be for Robinson. Daniel Jones would be the third best quarterback Allen Robinson has played with. Robinson.
Starting point is 00:27:37 If Allen Robinson goes to the Giants, willingly, he's an idiot. It would be a really bad spot. Because Robinson, I know, Heath, you're into efficiencies. Everybody is, but you know him probably off the back of your hand. He's not the most efficient in terms of per target. He's had four seasons with 150 targets,
Starting point is 00:28:02 and he's only had one truly elite season. I think that's more of a failure of our advanced football statistics that we've not yet found a way to give a receiver like Alan Robinson credit for the quality of throws that he's dealing with. Yes, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:25 He also has really been the alpha guy in every spot, big time. The best number two receiver he's had has been Alan Hearns. So I don't know how much that changes. Sterling Shepard's better than Alan. It would be a bad fit, I think, for him. He'd not get 150 targets on the Giants.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But I don't like the other thing I've heard is him to the Ravens, and I don't really particularly like that either. I would like that for the Ravens offense. I would like that for Lamar Jackson, but I wouldn't love it for Allen Robinson. Yeah, but at the same time, think about what we were saying about Stephon Diggs going to Buffalo. That's true. That was going to be.
Starting point is 00:28:58 That's 100% right. Okay, that's it for our listener suggestions. Thank you very much. We'll talk a little bit more about these free agents in a bit. We have a lot of news and notes to get to and a really cool new rule proposal that I want to talk about. First, though, six tournaments, six chances to win $10,000. You can fill out one conference bracket or all of them.
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Starting point is 00:29:53 It's going to be fun. Spot and choose. This is really cool. The Baltimore Ravens proposed an overtime rule called spot and choose. One team selects where to spot the ball. You do a coin toss to determine which team is going to select, right? So the team that wins the coin toss
Starting point is 00:30:12 can select where to spot the ball at the start of overtime. And the other team picks if they want to play offense or defense. I think this was on Ravens.com. For example, the Ravens could spot the ball at the 10-yard line. Then their opponent would have to pick
Starting point is 00:30:27 whether it wants to start on offense from its own 10-yard line or play defense. I don't think they have determined if it's sudden death or what, or if you just play out overtime, which could be 10 minutes or seven and a half minutes,
Starting point is 00:30:39 which was proposed. But you say, all right, we won the coin toss. 25-yard line. Who's going to pick the 10-yard line? 25-yard line. And then the other team has to say, all right, do we want to play offense or defense?
Starting point is 00:30:51 I think that's really awesome. What do you guys think about spot and choose? What would the Chiefs have to choose in terms of yard line to get the other team to choose defense? The five. You think the team would choose defense if the Chiefs said the five?
Starting point is 00:31:04 I think so. In a the five? I think so. I think 10 or 15. It's nice that the team with the best kicker in the NFL is making this determination. My thought on this is I feel like it would just end up being every team picks the 25. Like there might be one idiosyncratic coach who decides to take chances. But with the way the NFL is, I feel like they'd just be like, we'll put it on the 25 every time. Just play fifth quarter.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Well, that's part of this. They could play like half a quarter. But I think this is really cool. So, 25-yard line, how many teams are picking offense there? How many are picking defense? All of them are picking offense. Is it sudden death? Because if that's the case, then you probably
Starting point is 00:31:46 are. But if not, yeah, well, if all the teams are picking offense, then make it to 20. Then what happens? Most are picking offense. Alright, well, you know what? I like this better than everybody else does, I guess. Of course you do. Let's take a break.
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Starting point is 00:33:30 I will think of a pun with the word spot in it, and then I will use it, and it'll be great, but I'll have to pick my spot. New England wants to acquire Jimmy Garoppolo, according to the Boston Sports Journal. They had him once. They did.
Starting point is 00:33:43 The Bears will prioritize making... What would that trade actually have been if they tried to trade him? What did they get for him? A second round pick? A second round pick. I mean, I don't think it's so ridiculous to get a second round pick for a guy who'd never played, basically. He played two games. And who's been the 17th best
Starting point is 00:34:01 quarterback in the NFL when he's been healthy? The 17th best quarterback usually goes for like three first round picks. I mean, by the way, if Dak Prescott gets franchise tags, wouldn't you give up two first round picks for Dak Prescott? If you had some teams, I think would.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah. I was done for. I would. You'd have to. I don't think two would get him. Well, that's what you have to give up if he's franchised. Right?
Starting point is 00:34:26 I mean, I think... I don't think that's changed. I'll check. Yeah, I think you have to give up two first-round picks if he's franchised. Anyway, the Bears are making a run at Russell Wilson. The Chicago Tribune says that's a priority for them. The Bears have not had a...
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, but Peter King says no. That is not happening? He said it's a pipe dream. Why? I mean, that was one of the teams that was listed by Russell Wilson. Yes, but according to Peter King, it would be a pipe dream for the Bears to acquire Russell Wilson from Seattle. Didn't you have drinks with Peter King or something, Heath?
Starting point is 00:35:03 Yes, that is true at Concrete Beach Brewery. He and Schrager was there and Gardner Minshew. Right. What a crowd. We did not talk about the Bears or Russell Wilson, but I agree with Peter King that it's a pipe dream.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Cleveland wants to keep Odell Beckham. I have some stats on Rashard Higgins that I will be giving out tomorrow and getting analysis from the guys on that stat. Well said. Good sentence. Von Miller will not face charges for some mystery crime. And Denver placed the franchise tag on Justin Simmons.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Their safety, very, very good safety. Houston signed center Justin Britt to a one-year deal. He did not play in 2020. This is, I don't know, this is a huge deal, but they did cut their center Nick Martin two weeks ago. Alright, this is a bigger deal. Terry McLaurin said he played through two high ankle sprains in 2020. He was wide receiver
Starting point is 00:36:00 20 in non-PPR, wide receiver 19 in PPR. Chris, 87 catches, a little more than 1,100 yards, only four touchdowns in 15 games for McLaurin, but he did have 134 targets in 15 games. So yeah, he played through two high ankle sprains, finished as a top 20 wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Quick thought here? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I have him ranked as a top 12 wide receiver for 2021. If not, it's like 13 or 14. i i have to imagine that offense won't be worse next year for him uh you know obviously we'll see who the starting quarterback is but i just think based on what he's done so far in his first two seasons in that offense uh he's really really good and um you know someone who i who I'm fine with as my...
Starting point is 00:36:45 If I get him as my number two wide receiver for 2021, I'm ecstatic. I think I've got him seventh, and he was in my breakouts article, which will be on CBSSports.com today. I think it's out now. How much do you... He's 10th for me.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Jamie, where's McLaurin for you? Just outside top 12, but right in the same range. How much do you care, though, about touchdowns? I know they're hard to project, but I do feel like Washington right now, if we're doing rankings right now, they don't feel like a team that's going to throw a lot of touchdown passes. That could hurt them.
Starting point is 00:37:18 He had four last year. He had seven as a rookie on 93 targets in a worse offense. I don't know. It's not a worse offense for fantasy, though. Look, it's just math. The more touchdown passes a team throws, the better it is, right? I mostly lean like in normals around 5% touchdown rate. He's been like right at 5% for his career.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Maybe the offense is worse, but the offense is going to be better than it was last year. Yeah, I have him 10th in my projections with only six touchdowns. Okay. And then, here's a quote from Cliff Kingsbury
Starting point is 00:38:00 about Chase Edmonds. As far as Chase goes, you've seen when he's had his opportunity, he's played at a starting running back level. We all understand that he's unfortunately been nicked up a couple times, which we want to keep him on the field, but we all have the confidence in the world in Chase and him being able to be the bell cow if that's how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Jamie, Chase Edmonds bell cow? Week 9 against Miami, he had 25 carries. He had 70 yards rushing on those 25 carries. I mean, he did not play well in that game. It was the game Kenyon Drake missed. You know, we all had high expectations for Chase Edmonds, myself included. But there is an opportunity there for him if they don't go and add somebody significant. If it's a day two, day three rookie and an old veteran guy, then Chase Edmonds will have
Starting point is 00:38:41 the chance to be their lead rusher. He's probably better suited in a combo situation where he's the pass catcher, third down back, that type of thing. He did play well catching the ball last year. He did do a good job catching the ball last year. So will he be a lead fantasy option? Probably not. Can he be a flex like Kareem Hunt-ish type, not to that same height, but that type of guy, probably so, or just basically what Chase Edmunds was last year. So we have to see what they do. It just doesn't seem like they're bringing back Kenyon Drake,
Starting point is 00:39:11 and do they have the ammunition to go get somebody else that's better than what Kenyon Drake was last year? If you want to look at the three games that Edmunds had in the last two seasons where the starting running back's been out and he's been put in that role. He had one amazing game. We all remember David Johnson, I think, had one carry, and then he left the game against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Edmonds goes off for 27 carries, 126 yards, and three touchdowns. The next week at New Orleans, a much better defense, seven carries for eight yards. And then Jamie referenced week nine this past year against the Dolphins, which was such a disappointment because if you had gone into that game saying, hey, you're going to get 28 touches from Chase Edmonds,
Starting point is 00:39:53 I feel like people would have had him in the top five that week, and he ended up with 70 rushing guards, 18 receiving yards, didn't get in the end. I think I almost used him as a start of the week that week. That's how excited I was.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah, I remember a lot of us were excited. Buffalo gave safety Mike a high at a two-year contract extension. Tampa Bay working on an extension for Tom Brady. The Raiders released Richie Incognito, one of their offensive guards. Carolina expected to franchise offensive tackle Taylor Moton.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And Denver right tackle Jawan James, who opted out last year, plans to play in 2021. All right, back to the... Here goes Drew Locke now. Free... That'll help. That offensive line's actually good.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Garrett Bowles was a huge, huge step forward last year for them. And, yeah, and, you know, we talk a lot about the skill position players, but there are some really good offensive linemen on the market as well. Brandon Scherf in Washington. You know, they could obviously... Well, he may get the tag. Yeah, they could obviously get franchised.
Starting point is 00:40:48 But Brandon Scherf is now being mentioned as a potential trade option for the Eagles. That would be huge if some team can acquire him. I know. That tells me that they're just in total rebuild mode. Well, I mean, you have an older player coming back that's expensive from a significant injury i mean it's not a bad idea to explore what your trade option can be yeah the eagles are strange because like the division's just not that good and a surprise
Starting point is 00:41:16 team wins it every year but it seems like it seems like they are going into just a rebuild mode but you can win the division you do have to give up two first round picks to acquire a franchise tag player uh but the team that is tagging that player has the option to match the contract match the contract contract offer given right so like for example if the cowboys franchise tag Dak, and let's say the Patriots say, well, we'll give you your first-round picks for Dak at this contract offer. The Cowboys can then match
Starting point is 00:41:51 the contract offer and keep that. Yeah, the other offensive linemen on the market that need to be mentioned, Trent Williams, left tackle for the Niners, Patriots guard Joe Tooney, Green Bay center Corey Linsley. Those are the best. And then Pittsburgh left tackle Alejandro Villanueva. Buffalo right tackle Darrell Williams.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Pete Prisco has his top 100 free agents. I encourage everyone to take a look. All right, Heath. How many running backs in the top 100? He had three in the top 50. As I only went through his top 50. He had Aaron Jones, Chris Carson, and I think Kenyon Drake checked in right the top 50. I only went through his top 50. He had Aaron Jones, Chris Carson, and I think Kenyon Drake checked in right at number 50.
Starting point is 00:42:31 It's a great wide receiver class. Heath, who's the wide receiver most likely you think to change teams between Godwin, Robinson, Gallaudet, Juju, Curtis Samuel, Will Fuller, Corey Davis, Sammy Watkins. I think it's Juju. There was some stuff during the season last year about how people weren't sure if Juju was going to be back, and they are in a pretty bad salary cap situation,
Starting point is 00:42:56 and they have Deontay Johnson and Chase Claypool. So I would say that Juju seems the most likely and maybe has the widest range of outcomes. Going into last year, we were saying we're going to overlook 2019 because he was so good at a young age. He was okay last year, but I don't know really what to expect from Juju on a new team. It was so hard to judge how good he was in that offense last year too
Starting point is 00:43:21 because his average depth of target was like four and a half yards. All right. Who's your number 20 wide receiver right now? Chris Godwin for me. Oh, wow. My number 20 wide receiver is Brandon Cooks. Jamie? I'm looking. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I'm going to look it up on the ringer. Who? Gallaudet? Gallaudet. All right. I should probably aim lower then. Is there any scenario where Juju Smith-Schuster enters your top 20? Any destination? Yeah. He goes with Deshaun Watson somewhere? Absolutely. He He goes with Deshaun Watson somewhere. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:07 He ends up with Deshaun Watson. They both go to the Jets. How about... Okay, fine. He goes to the Jets. Top 20? With Watson? With Watson, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 No, I meant without Watson. Oh, no. Okay. If he goes to the Jets with Jameis... Okay. There you go. J jamis and juju and the jets juju to the dolphins top 20 no i don't think so although the dolphins were surprisingly pass happy last season like in such in in neutral situations they threw the ball i think they were like top five or six.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, but how much of that was with Tua and how much of that was with Patrick, though? I looked just into a start, and I think it stayed consistent. Their situation neutral pass rate didn't change much when Tua was in. Juju to the Raiders. Juju to the Raiders. Are we talking top 30 yeah
Starting point is 00:45:07 he's top 30 now and kind of in limbo for me so all right what do you like better juju to the Raiders or Allen Robinson
Starting point is 00:45:17 to the Giants Robinson yeah Robinson's proven he can play with bad quarterbacks stop it all right it's enough. Well, I mean, it's the truth.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I know, I know, I know. Do you think Galladay's back on the Lions? I think Galladay's back on the Lions. I think Robinson stays with the Bears. I think Godwin stays with the Bucs. I think he's set it best. Juju's probably going to be the one that's set free in terms of trying to find a new team,
Starting point is 00:45:43 although he's saying all the right things about trying to stay in pittsburgh um but you could be looking at juju and cory davis as the two top guys available if you want to throw curtis samuel in that conversation also so those are probably the top three of the options to be set free remember as as good as this free agency class looks aside from the franchise tag this draft class is loaded and as the rookie drafts as as the rookies have shown you over the last couple of seasons, you don't have to get a guy at the top of the draft to have a great wide receiver with, you know, Chase Claypool, what he's done with, what Terry McCorn has done. You know,
Starting point is 00:46:16 you don't have to be a first round pick to be forget Chase Claypool, but you know what, just guys like McLaurin and such have done. Okay. How about running? Do you want to talk about more wide receivers? Let me ask you about Chris Godwin. Follow up on Chris Godwin. You know he had an 18% target share last year?
Starting point is 00:46:39 So the Buccaneers had two wide receivers who were top 13 in non-PPR and top 16 in PPR on a per-game basis. And the only player who finished in the top 16 in PPR per game and was on pace or actually had fewer targets than Godwin and Evans, or I guess was on pace for, was Will Fuller. And he was on pace for the same amount as Evans, I think. So that's kind of interesting. Like, really low target share for Godwin and Evans. And I didn't do... I don't know the splits with and without Antonio Brown
Starting point is 00:47:18 because Godwin only played... Well, Godwin played four games without Brown. He was on pace for 116 targets. He played seven games with Brown and Evans. Didn't include Week 17, and he was on pace for 110 targets. So basically the same. Anyway, my question is, do you want to see Chris Godwin back with the Bucs, or do you think there's an opportunity
Starting point is 00:47:33 for even more if he's featured somewhere else? He doesn't have to be with Mike Evans. For him, my preference well, for him and Evans, my preference would be for Chris Godwin to go somewhere else like it's possible that that offense you know changes enough in 2021 that Mike Evans can maximize his value while being you know a relatively low target volume guy but my assumption is that it's going to be relatively the same.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And I don't think either Evans or Godwin can realistically be a top 12 wide receiver in this offense with both of them staying healthy. I know Evans was close if he didn't finish as a top 12 wide receiver, but I don't see him scoring 14 touchdowns again or 13 touchdowns again. Okay. Let's go to running back now. Like I mentioned for Pete Prisco,
Starting point is 00:48:32 Kenyon Drake is the number 50 free agent available. And is there a scenario, Jamie, where you'd be excited about Kenyon Drake? Do you think he still has fantasy starter work left in him? Yes. Atlanta, the Jets, Miami, again, Seattle, if he's a Chris Carson replacement.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I mean, any of these job openings that, you know, you can see a path to featured work. Does he get that? Probably not, but those would be the scenarios or the, or the destinations that have the most likely chance for that to happen. Maybe Pittsburgh if they want to bring him into leap over guys like Benny Snell and Anthony McFarland. So it's all going to be about opportunity and,
Starting point is 00:49:20 and situation for him. You know I would hate to see him end up as a guy as much. So for the place that he'd be going, but like as an area Jones replacement, for example, you know, do the, do the Packers want a veteran to sort of help AJ Dillon in that regard? You know, if they let both guys go of Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams, you know, that type of situation as well. So we'll see. Um, I don't think you should rule it out. Obviously, he wasn't great last year with the Cardinals, but the previous year he was amazing for the Cardinals. So was it Arizona or was it him? His splits last year were really interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He ran the ball, I mean, fine. He was averaging 4.5 yards per carry in his first eight games of the season, and in his last seven, only 3.3 yards per carry in his first eight games of the season. And in his last seven, only 3.3 yards per carry. But six of those seven games came after he missed it. What did he miss the game for? The Miami that we just talked about with Chase Edmonds. It was an ankle? I want to say it might have been a concussion, but I'll check.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Okay, yeah. That would be key to know. I don't know if he was, maybe he was playing hurt. But also, remember Kyler Murray kept stealing all of his touchdowns. And Drake in his first eight games had four rushing touchdowns. In his last seven games, he had six. And he was just, you know, just getting in the end zone a lot more. He was on pace for 14 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And he was a top 10 running back, or his top 12 running back per game in those seven games. All right. So Heath, any other free agents that you want to talk about? Jameis, Curtis Samuel, Will Fuller,
Starting point is 00:50:53 Hunter Henry, John, who there are some spots available for tight ends. Like if Henry goes back to the chargers, obviously that'd be great for him. If he could end up in Indianapolisapolis that'd be maybe even better um so there's some spots where tight ends could be interesting depending on what happens with zach hurts and if he gets cut this week and becomes a free agent as well um but the one still that i'd really like to see
Starting point is 00:51:21 just go be a starter is jamameis because it was so much fun when he was a starter for fantasy purposes. And I would, I don't think it'll happen. I'd love to see him in Carolina with Robbie Anderson and DJ Moore. I think that'd be fantastic. I'm afraid he's going to be in new Orleans and we're going to get a little song and dance about Taysom Hill and Jameis Winston every couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Yeah. I would love to see him in Denver. That's another one. Given the downfield options that they have, I think him in Denver or Carolina could be really good. Drake wasn't ankle in week nine, but he came back obviously in week 10. Yeah, I think Jameis is going to be really fascinating because he played in a bruce arian's offense that was wide open and free and go make plays and is that best suited for jamis like does jamis need
Starting point is 00:52:14 to be in a more controlled environment atmosphere coaching staff you know don't no risk it no biscuit you know don't don't take these chances and make some safer throws. He's going to make mistakes. That's clearly part of his game. But let's not forget, he's got LASIK now. So that's obviously the cure-all to all of his woes. But it would be fun to see if he was the guy in New Orleans. And he, I mean, look, if he could be a poor man's Drew Breesian
Starting point is 00:52:38 with Taysom Hill coming in, that would be a pretty good fantasy quarterback. But obviously letting him go somewhere. What about the Giants as an upgrade over Daniel Jones? Just stop. Washington has an opening. That'd be fun. You would be really excited and happy if they signed Jameis, right? No. I don't think
Starting point is 00:52:55 he might be better than Daniel Jones, but I don't think Jameis is ever going to be good enough. Do the Giants win the division last year if Jameis Winston starts 16 games for them? Yes. Probably, but I also think they win the division if Saquon Barkley had stayed healthy.
Starting point is 00:53:12 So, I think at least Daniel Jones... A quarterback was a bigger need for them last year than running back. But they only missed it by one game. He could have made that difference. Thankfully for Doug Peterson. Yeah, I think I think at least Daniel Jones. I'm not convinced that he's going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Whereas I don't I don't think James is a good player. He's so interesting. He's obviously very talented. It's just strange that you're you're so confident in saying I don't think James is a good player. I don't. And you hesitate so much in saying that Daniel Jones is not a good player. I'm not really a big Daniel Jones fan. You make it out like I am.
Starting point is 00:53:53 But you have much easier time saying Jameis is not a good player than Daniel Jones is not a good player. Yeah, because it's only been two years. And don't forget, Daniel Jones had a pretty significant injury last year that he really stunk terrible after that injury. And he runs at one point. I don't know if Heath wants to say it or if I should, but it's not like he was good before the injury.
Starting point is 00:54:15 No, he wasn't, but he was good. He was much better as a rookie. I mean, it's kind of like either way, you're going to turn the ball over three times a game with either one of them. No, that's the thing. He stopped turning the ball over three times a game with either one of them that's the thing he stopped turning the ball over that that's jamis hasn't really shown that i don't maybe he had in like an eight game stretch but i don't recall that daniel jones threw one interception in his last like six games or something and and guess what happened evan
Starting point is 00:54:38 ingram dropped it shocker so i still had six fumbles in that span though did he he led the league in fumbles he's a fumbler but so is jamis jamis probably would lead the league six fumbles in that span. Did he? He led the league in fumbles. He's a fumbler, but so is Jameis. Jameis probably would lead the league in fumbles too. Isn't it funny that you're defending Daniel Jones? I don't want to. I don't want to. I didn't like the...
Starting point is 00:54:56 I know. It's an instinctual thing. I didn't want the draft. We're trying to help you. You're going to compare, but Jameis Winston, I'm going to have to defend him a little bit. You don't have to. Look, you tell me this.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Would Daniel Jones have had better numbers if he had been throwing to Chris Godwin and Mike Evans? Better numbers than he had? Yes. Better numbers than he had? No. I think the Giants receiving core is awful. I think a lot of people thought it was really good.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I think it sucks. They do not have one difference maker. They don't get open and their offensive line was terrible. Here we go. Yeah. Here we are again. It's easy to say that Sterling Shepard and Evan Ingram and Golden Tate, Darius Slayton suck. Evan Ingram, he was a difference maker last year, just not for the Giants. Right. He dropped like three or four balls that became interceptions. And one that cost them a win. And one that cost, yes, against the
Starting point is 00:55:53 Eagles, that horrible drop. So that was one of the best throws of Daniel Jones' career, by the way. I wouldn't want Jameis Winston to the Giants either. As someone who wants to see Jameis Winston be a fantasy-relevant quarterback. Okay, well, thank you for suckering me into that.
Starting point is 00:56:10 FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. I'm sorry? Let's go, Gettleman. Make it happen. Matt in D.C. says, Dear Theodore, Abraham, George, and Thomas, those are chipmunks, thanks so much for doing the offseason show.
Starting point is 00:56:26 We need more fantasy cops? Okay, I could always do that. Okay, I have to keep three players for next year. By the way, I know those aren't chipmunks. It was a joke because of Theodore. I thought it was a good joke. Thank you. $200 total salary cap.
Starting point is 00:56:40 People hear me backing up Daniel Jones, they might not realize that I know. Presidents. I plan on keeping the following players in a $200 salary cap league. James Robinson for $3. J.K. Dobbins for $10. Mark Andrews
Starting point is 00:56:58 for $1. The catch is that the low cost of many keepers often drives up the value of the top running backs to $70 plus once they return to the draft. Are any of these others significantly better options or at least merit strong consideration? Robert Woods for $22.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Calvin Ridley for $22. Terry McLaurin for $22. Chenault for $1. And Deshaun Watson for $13 it is a 10 team half PPR league what are the first options you said Robinson was well he's keeping Robinson for 3
Starting point is 00:57:36 Dobbins for 10 and Andrews for 1 I mean Calvin Ridley for 22 kind of stands out to me guys yeah that's the one for me Ridley for 22 kind of stands out to me, guys. Yeah, that's the one for me. Ridley for 22 versus Dobbins for 10. It also depends on when you have to make the decision because if Jacksonville does bring in another running back, even for $3, James Robinson,
Starting point is 00:57:55 if they make a significant investment, that could be the one you let go. But for now, I think Dobbins at 10 versus Ridley at 22 is the one that I would consider. Okay. I would keep Dobbins at that cost. For sure, especially in half PPR. Next email is from
Starting point is 00:58:16 John. Hey, Norbert, Daggart, and Stump. Presidents? I would be surprised if anybody knew this one. I have no idea. Nope. Angry Beavers.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Oh, those are like chipmunks. Nickelodeon cartoon. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Entering the second year of our Superflex Dynasty League. Last year, I blew it up a little, and I have pick 1.3 in this year's rookie draft, but
Starting point is 00:58:46 I can't figure out what to do. I have Stafford, Barkley, Big Hole at running back, Allen Robinson, Calvin Ridley, Kittle, DJ Moore, CeeDee Lamb, Big Hole at super flex. So, it's, he needs, he's got the third pick in the rookie draft, and
Starting point is 00:59:02 he needs a running back and a super flex. What would you do? Oh, oh, sorry. Does he only have the third pick in the rookie draft, and he needs a running back and a super flex. What would you do? Oh, sorry. Does he only have the third pick? No, sorry. I have the chance to trade 1.3, 3.1, and my 2022 first for the first overall pick and get Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Would you give up all of that to move up two spots or just stay at 1.3? Let's assume Lawrence is one and then two can go anyway. Obviously, it could be another quarterback. It could be Harris or Etienne. It could be Chase or Smith. I'd probably stay at three. That's what I would do.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Should we be putting Jalen Waddell, by the way, in this group as well? Absolutely. I'm seeing people having him as the number one wide receiver. Yeah. I apologize for not putting him there. Yes, he should be there. But I do think you're going running back or quarterback here.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah. Yeah. And you should be able to get either the second best running back or maybe the first. I mean, you know, if it goes quarterback, quarterback. Question becomes is do you go fields or, you know, Zach
Starting point is 01:00:16 Wilson, if you want to go with the number two quarterback, if the running back goes to or receiver goes to. It's a really tough call. I'd almost see if I could pick up a second round pick by dropping back two or three spots.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Don't you find like with Superflex dynasty rookie drafts the skill players you get at the back end of the first round are just ridiculous because of the rush for quarterbacks. Well, honestly, quarterback is one of the most overdrafted players,
Starting point is 01:00:51 the positions in the NFL drafts. I saw a study about that. There could be five of them that go in the top ten this year, and that's not going to work out. So I would just be so nervous if I had the third pick in a dynasty draft to take Fields or Wilson, even in a super flex league, and pass up on one of those top three wide receivers or top two running backs. Sure, but you
Starting point is 01:01:12 say it's not going to work out, but I mean, think about some of the recent quarterback drafts and how good some of those guys have been. Right, but how would you feel if you took Tua right now? You'd be a little nervous about it. I'd be nervous, but if you took Herbert, you wouldn't. Huh? If you took Herbert, you wouldn't be nervous. Or Jalen Hurts. I mean, you'd be a little nervous about it. I'd be nervous, but if you took Herbert, you wouldn't. Huh? If you took Herbert, you wouldn't be
Starting point is 01:01:28 nervous. Or Jalen Hurts. I mean, you know, he was in a second round pick in my Superflex rookie draft. But you wouldn't have had to take, right, that's fine. I'm saying if you had to take him with one of the first five picks in the draft in your rookie draft. I mean, that's the risk you're taking, clearly, but
Starting point is 01:01:43 it's risky. I mean, I think to risk you're taking, clearly. It's risky. I mean, I think to our rookie draft that the three of us are in, and Adam, you and I share the team, where Jalen Rager was a first-round pick and Keyshawn Vaughn was a first-round pick. Not top five, though. No. And I think there's a difference, honestly.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I mean, there are usually... Go ahead, Chris. I think the thing with justin fields that that makes me feel a little better about it if i was taking him at three it's just that rushing ability yeah no i think that's that's one of the things that you know you mentioned jalen hurts uh someone who looks a lot better now when you've got that kind of floor it does make it a lot easier to make the transition for fantasy. Yeah. Okay. From trace,
Starting point is 01:02:26 uh, from Vancouver, hoping to get this answered on the pot. All right. 12 team, full PPR. Keep two, Jonathan Taylor,
Starting point is 01:02:35 Aaron Jones, George Kittle, Chris Godwin, Alan Robinson, James Robinson. It does not appear that there are any values attached to it. So it's just pick two, Jonathan Taylor, Aaron Jones, George Kittle, Chris Godwin, Alan Robinson, James Robinson. It does not appear that there are any values attached to it, so it's just pick two. Jonathan Taylor, Aaron Jones,
Starting point is 01:02:46 George Kittle, Chris Godwin, Alan Robinson, James Robinson. It's obviously pick one. Yeah, Taylor and? Right now, it's Robinson for me, but that could change. Oh, Chris, there are two Robinsons. James Robinson.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Excuse me. Okay. Yeah, I mean, if Aaron Jones gets one of these premier jobs, that's the easy choice for me at number two. Yeah, I think that they're, like, hopefully you're not making any keeper decisions in the next month. That would be a wild way to do it. But it's going to depend on what Jacksonville does
Starting point is 01:03:22 and who Aaron Jones signs with. But I think it'll be one of those two. It's not Kittle, huh? It could be Kittle if like Jacksonville does bring someone in. And like if Jones goes back to Green Bay and Jacksonville brings someone in, I think I would go Kittle. Yeah, I would still keep Jones over Kittle if he's in Green Bay. But if he goes to, if he has a money grab situation
Starting point is 01:03:44 where he's going to be sharing with somebody, then it probably would be Kittle over John. Cool. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. Free agency is going to get going next week, but you're going to hear so many rumors and reports and there's going to be a lot of cuts in the coming days, so get ready for four and a half bonus pods
Starting point is 01:04:00 in the next two weeks. For Jamie and Chris and Heath, I'm Adam. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Tennessee Football Today.

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