Fantasy Football Today - Best Values; Superflex Talk; Fantasy Cops; Buy or Sell (08/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 23, 2022

Check out our Ebay store to benefit St. Jude! Bid on spots in Podcast Leagues, pre-draft calls with our analysts and more https://ebay.to/3p4Dc3Z We've got a smorgasbord of segments and topics on tod...ay's show! Dave and Heath tell you the best values based on average draft position as you get ready for your drafts. Then Heath tells you what to do if you have two drafts on the same day and someone offers your free Dave Matthews concert tickets (6:00)! Plus we've got a lot of news and notes (12:45) including Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon being 1A and 1A according to their head coach, Kenyan Drake getting ready to be released, the Bucs wide receivers making progress and more ... Falcons-Jets takeaways (25:05). Why did Breece Hall play with the backups? Where is Cordarrelle Patterson? Then we read a quick round of emails on Michael Pittman (27:15), Isaiah Likely (31:40), RB strategy and Allen Lazard (36:30) ... Superflex talk (40:40)! Do you need to draft two QBs in Rounds 1-3? Then we finish with Fantasy Cops (45:30) to settle your league disputes, Fill in the Blank (50:50), Buy or Sell (54:15) and Team Name Tuesday (55:15) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Big show for you here on a Tuesday morning. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. It is a grab bag, a hodgepodge, whatever you want to call it. We've got a lot of different topics. We've got buy or sell. We've got fill in the blank. We've got preseason takeaways.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Kyle Pitts played three snaps and he had a 52-yard catch. That was awesome. Brees Hall played. Michael Carter didn't. And much more. Also, the Fantasy Cops are here today to settle your league disputes. And it's not just
Starting point is 00:02:11 any Tuesday, ladies and gentlemen. It is Team Name Tuesday. But first, it's a brand new segment on Fantasy Football today. I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Heath Cummings. First segment is Oh my gosh, my draft is in two hours and I need help. Who are the two best values in fantasy drafts, Dave Richard? I can only name two.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I've got four. The first one is obvious to me. It's Tom Brady. You can get him as the ninth to 12th quarterback off the board, and he's got top five potential. Apparently, he had a very good practice. His first practice back after giving the DX chop and the double bird to his
Starting point is 00:02:46 teammates when he came back on the field. I love drafting Brady. I love waiting for him. And I'll take Logan Thomas as the other one. He's back. He's off the pup list. I think he's going to ramp up, and I think he's going to matter for the commander's offense this year, a tight end that you could literally take with
Starting point is 00:03:02 your last pick in the next seven days. All of the rookie wide receivers in the 140s and 150s, the Garrett Wilsons, the Jahan Dotsons, I think Jahan Dotson's like 197th player being drafted on CBS drafts. All those guys are great values, but I'll get some guys who I actually think will matter from the start of the year as well. Darnell Mooney in CBS League's pick 91 in round eight. And then our good friend, he's there every year, Brandon Cooks, pick 71. We've been talking as if Brandon Cooks might be a third or fourth round pick. He's still going to be a great value in everybody else's drafts into round six.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Give me a top 12 wide receiver this year. All right. So I'm not going to lie. I'm having a little bit of trouble deciding which average draft position to use. There are so many, and I just want to give you all, you listeners and you viewers, the most representative website. And I truly don't know what that is. After this weekend, I think I'm just going to use CBS ADP. We're going to have a ton of drafts this weekend. But today, I'm going to change it up. I'm looking at Fantasy Football Calculator. So I've looked at NFC over the past week.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I've looked at Fantasy Pros. I've looked at CBS. Fantasy Football Calculator, according to its website, and I use Fantasy Football Calculator a lot when I'm doing historical ADP data. According to the website, it's got 684 mock drafts between August 8th and August 22nd. And in those mock drafts, Brandon Cooks is the eighth pick of round five. So not as low as he is on CBS, but you still think that would be a great value, right?
Starting point is 00:04:36 100%. Yes. Eighth pick of round five. Fantastic. Yeah. But actually that whole round is Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Brandon Cooks, Alan Robinson, Cortland Sutton. Oh, baby. Yeah, that's an incredible round. That makes me want to just lock in on wide receiver in that round and maybe the round before. Yeah, I don't know if those guys are going to make it to round five
Starting point is 00:04:59 in most drafts, but they definitely will in a lot of your drafts. In a lot of your drafts, it's going to happen. That is a problem that we do with every single ADP we look at is we see this thing that has a sample of hundreds of drafts, whether it be real on an FC or the compilation on Fantasy Pros or all these mock drafts on Fantasy Football Calculator. And the first thing we do is we find the best values and say, but that's not going to happen in your drafts.
Starting point is 00:05:37 The things that happen in our drafts that we do with each other are not more representative of our listeners' drafts than all the other information that we have. You're right. I just wonder if when more people start seeing rankings that like DJ Moore is going 52nd on CBS Michael Thomas Michael Thomas Cortland Sutton they are also in this range and Chris Godwin is going 60 Michael Thomas is in this range for everybody else but us right Sutton Godwin DJ Moore I don't know where they're going to end up like because Sutton is also I don't I'm sorry looking for DJ Moore I think Sutton and DJ Moore are the two outliers there. Cause I think Godwin's about in this range on a lot of their places too, just because of the injury. And on fantasy football calculator,
Starting point is 00:06:10 DJ Moore is a round four pick. He's before all those guys, but he's still around for Terry McLaurin three pick three 12. So the last pick of round three, that's interesting. Anyway, you know how we feel about more Sutton, Mike Williams,
Starting point is 00:06:24 Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Brandon Cooks, Alan Robinson. We think they're great values if you can get them in round four or five, whatever. A lot of those guys could be round three pick for us. It's a great, great reason to think of starting your draft with a tight end and a running back. If you could go get yourself a top five or ten running back and you can go get yourself Kelsey or Mark Andrews and then you know your next three picks are going to be wide receivers that we all think are top 15 wide receivers, that's a fantastic way to start your draft. But what about going tight end, running back, running back if you're picking late in
Starting point is 00:06:58 round one or running back tight end, running back if you're picking early in round one? So now we're skipping wide receiver until round four. And it's that group of wide receivers that the ADP is telling us is going to be available from. I like that a lot. I love it. I think that depends on if you can start two or three wide receivers. Because I think if you don't start taking wide receivers until round four, then you're probably not going to get three of the guys we love. You're only going to get two. And it also matters on how many people are in the league. Once you get to 14 teams, it's going to be a lot harder to pull that off. Okay, next segment.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Oh my gosh, my draft is in two hours and someone just offered me free concert tickets. Heath, what do I do? Well, you got to go to the concert, I think. And then you got to find a way to work around. I had Sunday afternoon, I get a text from a very good friend saying, I've got two tickets, good tickets to Dave Matthews. My wife and I have seen Dave Matthews, I think, four times in the past, mostly at Farm Aid concerts.
Starting point is 00:07:57 But even if you don't like Dave Matthews, seeing him live is fantastic. I had a salary cap draft at 8 p.m. as well as my Pace League draft, which is the league that I won last year. It's a charity league, raised $2,000 for St. Jude. And that was also at 8 p.m. Now, the salary cap was a little bit easier because I already had 75% of my team. I only had like 2020 left to spend.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I knew I was going to get one good player and a bunch of $1 players. I was fine with that. I was like, I'll take care of that during the concert. Don't worry about it. I set my son up with my rankings and instructions, and he did the Pace League draft with me looking over his shoulder from my seats at the concert occasionally. Your oldest son or your youngest son?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Youngest, 12th. Okay. And he drafted this team in a 14-team league. All right. He got Travis Kelsey and Aaron Jones to start the draft. Oh, hey now. Okay, so immediately I'm thinking this story's BS because this is the team.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Those are two picks you would make. For sure. Well, he had my rankings. He then took DJ Moore in round three, Chris Godwin in round four, Darnell Mooney in round five, and Elijah Moore in round six. He should do all your drafts.
Starting point is 00:09:25 He should start all his players. He should start two flexes. Yeah, they're very good. Very heathy. Very heathy. Yes. And then the four running backs he took,
Starting point is 00:09:33 Kenneth Gainwell, Khalil Herbert, Michael Carter, Jamal Williams. Going to struggle at RB2 for a while. But in a 14-team league to have three of my top 24
Starting point is 00:09:43 wide receivers, my number one tight end, and a top seven running back. Oh, yeah, and he drafted Jalen Hurts at quarterback. Wow. Yes. Nice. The young boy has done quite well. And the concert was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Oh, what a night. What a night. I think he found his intern. All right. Like I said, it is Team Name Tuesday. This is just part one. We have a visual for this one from Drew. Let's see. You guys like this one? Herbert them
Starting point is 00:10:12 apples. And it's Justin Herbert throwing an apple. Herbert them apples. Why can't it be? You need to ask that as a question. You think so? Yeah. How about them apples? Well, I got her number. Herbert them apples. Right. That's how you do it. Yeah. You got her number, Herbert them apples. Ah, right. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah, you got to emphasize them. You ever see Good Will Hunting? But it's still a question. You're right. Well, thank you, Drew, for Team Name Tuesday, part one. We have a lot more team names a little bit later. I got to tell you about a few things here. This is the time of year where I have like a million things to promote, but most of it is to benefit St. Jude. So please sit back and listen. Draft-a-thon, eight days from today, Wednesday,
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Starting point is 00:11:16 We're going to talk movies. We're going to mostly, you know, talk football, but pop culture, just fun stuff. We're just going to have fun for six hours. And we're raising a ton of money for St. Jude. That's what it's all about. Actually, if you're watching on YouTube right now, you can scan the QR code to go to our eBay store, or we'll put a link to the eBay store, Thomas Schaefer, if you wouldn't mind doing that. And you can donate right in the YouTube chat. You can donate to St. Jude. Please do that. So the draft-a-thon is next Wednesday, August 31st. Tonight, Tuesday night,
Starting point is 00:11:42 this week, in a few hours, we have Ben Gretsch joining us for a live stream, 8 p.m. Eastern. We're doing a mock draft tonight, so please be there for that on youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. We'll see you there with Ben Gretsch and, of course, Tara Roberts. We have a best ball tournament. Let me see how many people are in it right now. We're going to start sending out the emails. We've already sold 160. So that's $1,600 that we've raised for St. Jude. We can get as many people as we want to sign up here. A best ball tournament that we're setting up, the FFT Invitational, it's on our eBay page. $10 to enter. It goes right to St. Jude. Please join that. Let's see. What else am I? Oh, poker tournament.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Next Monday, we have a poker tournament. Dan Schneier's got all the info on that. Let's see. What else am I? Oh, poker tournament on next Monday. We have a poker tournament. Dan Schneier's got all the info on that. Be on the lookout on our social media accounts. And we are on TikTok, baby. I have to learn a little bit more about TikTok. But in order to help us with that, here is Zach Brooke from our social team and our FFT team. And Zach, welcome to the show. And tell us about our new TikTok world. Appreciate it, Adam. It's going great so far. If you haven't followed it already, it's at FF Today.
Starting point is 00:12:51 We're throwing some great stuff up there, some fun stuff, some memes from clips from the show. We're going to do some scripted stuff down the line, but definitely check it out. And just to jump on your point about the St. Jude page, for the best ball tournament,
Starting point is 00:13:02 make sure you include your email. We want to make sure we get everybody on there that's on there. I think we've already raised about $30,000 for St. Jude. Whoa. It's going to be great. Tune in, draft-a-thon next week. It's going to be fantastic. Hey, what did we get last year?
Starting point is 00:13:19 How much did we help St. Jude last year? I think it was – I wasn't here, but I think it was in the 50 to 60 range. Okay. It was about 60. We are, we are making inroads on beating that number. It would be cool if everybody was a part of it. It doesn't have to be,
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Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah, exactly. Zach, thank you, man. We'll be hearing from you. Absolutely. Appreciate it's fantasy. How can you hate this? Yeah, exactly. Zach, thank you, man. We'll be hearing from you. Absolutely appreciate it. All right, Zach Brooke, another awesome member of our team. Get back to work, Zach.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And he and Thomas Schaefer have done some great work behind the scenes. Okay, let's do some news and notes here. Baker Mayfield is Carolina's starting quarterback. I assume this changes nothing because you always figured
Starting point is 00:14:04 Baker Mayfield will be Carolina's starting quarterback, right? No, this blew up my rankings. I thought it would be Sam Darnold. I thought Darnold would come back and have an MVP-type year. Okay, sarcasm, please. What about Baker Mayfield in a 2QB league? Is he a top 24 guy, Heath? In a 2QB league,
Starting point is 00:14:25 he probably sneaks into the top 24. I've got him behind on a per-game basis, Mitchell Drabisky and Marcus Mariota, but I think it's far more likely those guys get benched
Starting point is 00:14:33 and that matters more in a 2QB league. Okay. The Raiders are going to be releasing or trading Kenyon Drake. I believe they'll be releasing him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It'll be hard to find a trade partner. Last year, he had five to six targets in each of his first three games and then only one more game rest of season with more than three targets. Dave, what does this mean for the Raiders' backfield? It clears it up a little bit. It makes it clear that Amir Abdul is going to be the passing downs guy. Drake was competing for that role.
Starting point is 00:15:00 He even said, I believe to our Josina Anderson, that the writing was on the wall weeks ago that he wasn't going to get it. And I think we can confidently say now Jacobs is the lead back. Zamir White backing him up. Maybe he takes some work off Jacobs a little bit each week. And then when they're in the two-minute offense or in an obvious passing situation, expect to see Amir Abdullah. Abdullah is probably one of those final round PPR running backs. I'd rather have Ty
Starting point is 00:15:26 Montgomery, but I think he's going to end up having a chance to be a good bi-week replacement in full PPR. Maybe if you're starting three flex, he could be one of your flex in a super deep league. One of the really interesting things that we just aren't going to know until we see it play out is what percentage of the targets does like does abdullah get the entire james white role is jacob's relegated to the completely the damian harris role or does jacob get maybe 15 more targets maybe one more target per game than harris did because har Harris' role with a little bit of target share is a different thing than with almost none. And when does Josh Jacobs become good value?
Starting point is 00:16:13 Right now, on Fantasy Football Calculator, he is a round four pick going before Brees Hall. Dave says round five. On CBS Sports, he is also a round four pick going before Brees Hall. Would you rather have Brees Hall or Josh Jacobs? Hall.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I was a little discouraged by how Hall played against Atlanta. I'm still taking Hall over Jacobs. I just can't take... Yeah, I saw a lot of that on Twitter this morning. People were upset that he did play because they rested most of the starters.
Starting point is 00:16:44 He's a rookie. I don't care. I'm starting to not care about that on Twitter this morning. People were upset that he did play because they rested most of the starters. He's a rookie. I don't care. I'm starting to not care about that stuff anymore. Yeah, rookies play. Rookies play in the preseason. Right. Garrett Wilson played too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon are 1A and 1A in the backfield. That doesn't make any sense, Matt LaFleur, but we get your point. Matt LaFleur said they are two of the premier backs in our league, and Jones is going 15th to 20th overall. Latest ADP on fantasy football calculator was 15th in PPR. That's Aaron Jones. A.J. Dillon, 54th. So that's round five, early to mid-round five. Heath, what's the better value? Aaron Jones early to mid-round two, or A.J. Dillon early to mid-round five? And what about both? Could you draft both? I don't mind drafting both.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I still prefer Jones at that cost difference. But I think both of them can be good values at that cost. Dillon has more upside at his cost because he just needs an Aaron Jones injury and he's going to absolutely smash it.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Chris Godwin, we've got some Bucs news. Chris Godwin participated in 11-on-11 drills for the first time. He's not a certainty for week one. And as much as we love him in round five, for sure, and I think you guys would even take Chris Godwin in round three, right, at this point? I don't know if I would take him in round three.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Full PPR, maybe. But round four, I'm comfortable taking him. Yes, I've taken him in round three. And this is a good thing. He's trending in the right direction. This is good. But don't freak out if he has a slow start. We think it'll pay off eventually.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Mike Evans returned to practice. Who are you taking first? That's also huge. Evans or Godwin? Evans. Godwin. And, you taking first? That's also huge. Evans or Godwin? Evans. Godwin. And, of course, Tom Brady returned. And John Gruden apparently nixed a plan to have Brady and Rob Gronkowski go to the Raiders in 2020 instead of the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It was being orchestrated, I guess, by Dana White, the UFC guy. And he and Rob Gronkowski himself confirmed it that John Gruden just blew it up. Wow. So there might be more to that story, but I am comfortable not believing John Gruden. So whatever he would have to say. Anyway, that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I know a really good rumor mill for Las Vegas News, and they were on top of that two years ago. They were also on top of Devontae Adams going for Las Vegas news. And they were on top of that two years ago. They were also on top of Devante Adams going to Las Vegas long before the NFL rumor mill was on. So Adam, you hear something from John Gruden. Yeah. And then immediately urban Meyer tells you the exact opposite.
Starting point is 00:19:18 What do you believe to be true? Oh my gosh. Nothing. Is this some type of riddle? Cause I'm not good at these. No. One of them is telling you the truth. One of them is not.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Gruden. Sounds like a great game show. Yeah, right. Jeez, Gruden or Meyer, that's tough. Giants rookie defensive end Kayvon Thibodeau is out three to four weeks with a knee injury. Arizona acquired guard Cody Ford from the Bills for a 2023 fifth round pick.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Another college teammate of Kyler's. Yeah. Oh, they're right. Pretty soon they'll have nothing but OU guys on that team. Aaron Rodgers said Romeo Dobbs is going to be expected to play because of his preseason performance.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I loved listening to him talk about the two rookies there and just like how insightful it was. He was much more positive about both the rookies than he has been. It seemed really clear to me that he has much higher expectations this season for Dobbs than he does for Watson. That's interesting. Maybe I need to go back and hear the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I think he misheard it, but that's the lad I heard. Okay, so Watson has started to practice. He's been taking in work with the ones and the twos, but that's the loud I heard. Okay. So I, Watson has started to practice. He's been taking in work with the ones and the twos, and apparently he's making great plays. Rogers did mention that he needs to work with Watson on making route adjustments. That basically means, you know, changing what you're going to do based on what the defense is showing you.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Once he gets that down, he could end up being fantastic, but that's something that could take a long time. We just don't know. And we don't know how good Dobbs is at that either. I wonder, though, if they're going to stick with the veteran receivers a little longer than we'd like. Yeah. He also complimented Sammy Watkins.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So we know Lazard. And he loves Cobb. We know Cobb and Lazard are going to start. And Watkins is probably going to start too. But you always have to be patient with rookie wide receivers. So what's your advice for people who want to draft Romeo Dobbs or Christian Watson? Late. Very late.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And I might get to a point where I like Watson better than Dobbs. But are we talking around 12, 13? Yeah. Would you rather have Devante Parker? Jacoby Myers? some better than Dobbs. But are we talking round 12, 13? Yeah. Yep. Would you rather have Devante Parker, Jacoby Myers? Would you rather have
Starting point is 00:21:29 a Patriots guy or Romeo Dobbs or Christian Watson? I think I'd rather go with one of the Packers guys because I think Parker might not be very exciting. Certainly not the beginning
Starting point is 00:21:44 of the year. They've got a tough schedule to begin the year. You might be able to pick Parker off of waivers. I'd rather sit on one of the Packers receivers. And I think there's a decent chance you'll be able to pick up Watson or Dobbs. Watson hasn't been getting drafted in our draft. A lot of them.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah, that's going to change. He's going to. I would take a former Packer over both of them. And that's MVS. MVS. Okay. How about James Robinson? James Robinson will not have a full workload in week one if he's ready for week one. They seem optimistic that Robinson will be ready for week one. But
Starting point is 00:22:14 one of the things that is, I think, going to be really important, guys, I don't know how you feel about this, is how Travis Etienne does right out of the gate because he's obviously going to have a big opportunity as they ramp up Robinson and if Shaquille Leonard who used to be Darius Leonard doesn't play in week two then I think I mean it doesn't seem like a bad schedule for Etienne it's Washington Colts Chargers Eagles those first three games i mean washington was supposed to have a good run defense last year they didn't the colts without leonard i don't know they yeah dave just shared an article last week about the jacksonville like a jacksonville camp breakdown and it was raving about how good the jacksonville defensive line had looked and how the jacksonville defensive line had been the star of camp.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I don't like talent wise. I don't think there's a lot of comparison between the Jacksonville defensive line and the Washington defensive line. I think maybe the Jacksonville offensive line is just still really bad. It quite possibly look pretty bad against Pittsburgh. Yeah. I mean, I wish,
Starting point is 00:23:19 I wish ETN had been a little bit better running the ball in the preseason. I did say last week, it looks like he shot out of a cannon. And I do see he's fast, but that's not everything. He does not still – and he didn't play football last year, so you wouldn't have expected him to improve this. He does not hit the hole. Man, I'm just nervous about him going in round three.
Starting point is 00:23:40 We talked about this last night. The things people complain about Saquon Barkley running, Travis Etienne has those same habits, but it also results in 70-yard touchdowns. It looks like he's half the size of Saquon. I know he's not. They're very close in terms of weight, relatively speaking.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I've got the Jaguars with the fifth worst, fifth hardest projected schedule to begin the year. So I disagree that that's an easy schedule for Jackson. Well, I didn't say it was easy. I didn't say it was easy.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I just said it's not that bad. I hope I didn't say it was easy because I wouldn't call it that. I think it could be pretty bad. I don't like about that that you shared and that we just keep hearing. What is this full workload that James Robinson is working up to? I think it's relative. I think it's a full workload for a running back in this offense coming off of an Achilles. I don't think it means he's going to play every down.
Starting point is 00:24:39 No, but if he plays half the downs, Travis Etienne's the bust. He might. It's really hard to find a player with more upside after pick 100. You could say Alexander Madison if Cook gets hurt, but a guy who doesn't need an injury to be a
Starting point is 00:24:57 must-start player, the fact that you can get James Robinson after pick 100, that's great, isn't it? I love it. I target him in every draft I'm in, and I often don't get him because he goes before pick 100. Am I crazy? I mean, that's great, isn't it? I love it. I target him in every draft I'm in, and I often don't get him because he goes before pick 100. Sometimes he goes before pick 90. Okay, let's move on. A few more news items here.
Starting point is 00:25:15 We got a lot to talk about. Isaiah Spiller could miss week one with an ankle injury. I keep seeing him get drafted, but it really looks like Josh Kelly is the clear backup there. Logan Thomas is off the pup list. As Dave mentioned earlier, Josh Palmer is in the concussion protocol chargers wide receiver would rather have Josh Palmer or Romeo Dobbs.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Probably Dobbs. Yeah. Somebody explained to me the theory on Josh Palmer that doesn't include a Mike Williams or Keenan Allen injury? 900 yards, six touchdowns, decent flex. I think you guys did a fantastic job there. Mecole Hardman
Starting point is 00:25:57 returned to practice for the Chiefs. Robbie Anderson has a quad injury. Carolina wide receiver Robbie Anderson, quad injury, and we'll keep an eye on that. Go ahead. On the Chiefs, Juju did not return and they were expecting him to return. I did knock him down a couple spots.
Starting point is 00:26:13 He's outside of my top 30 wide receivers. Interesting. Okay, quick. Give me two minutes on the Jets and Falcons if there's anything here. It was mostly Jets backups, but Brees Hall did play and mostly Atlanta starters with a rotation of Damian Williams, Tyler Algier,
Starting point is 00:26:31 and a little bit of Kadri Allison at running back. Um, Dave, give me, give me your quick thoughts on jets and Falcons. I thought Marcus Mariota was actually a little bit worse in this game than he was against Atlanta or against Detroit. But in saying that,
Starting point is 00:26:46 I still think he did well, good job recognizing Kyle pits on that deep throw. He just underthrew him a little bit through behind, uh, Olamide Zaccheaus on his final throw of the night. Fantastic throw to Zaccheaus on the touchdown. He's in that number two quarterback conversation. He should get draft a lot sooner than he has been in super flex and two QB
Starting point is 00:27:04 leagues. Tyler Algier was the second running back in. That's better than being the fifth running back in, which he was two preseason games ago. He showed good cuts and bursts. I wonder if he ends up mattering quite a bit for Atlanta. Maybe I've got him a little too low in the rankings. Cordell Patterson, two snaps through two preseason games. You can't tell me that they're not getting him ready for the year.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And whatever you think about Brees Hall's stat line, just remember this. He was getting his feet wet, getting used to the NFL game, and he was playing behind the second-string offensive line with the third-string quarterback. So it made it kind of easy for the Falcons to key in on him. I think he's still – I don't think you should knock him down because of a bad game or even because he was playing in the preseason game. Man, I've got so many rookie running backs all in the same range of my running backs.
Starting point is 00:27:51 They're all coming together. And I know I'm the low guy on Brian Robinson, but I still have him in that range. But Ken Walker, Tyler Algier, Brian Robinson, like all those guys, there could be some big second half finishes again. I thought you were putting Brees Hall in there. No. Brees Hall, big tier drop. Damian Pierce, small tier drop. The rest of the rookie running backs. All right. We're going to do a quick round of emails before we take a break. We also have Phil in the blank. Oh, we did a super flex draft yesterday. I forgot to mention that. We did super flex draft, a 12-team super flex draft. And the obvious question with super flex is, when do I take my quarterbacks? And we'll
Starting point is 00:28:29 talk about some of the takeaways from that draft. But here's a quick round of emails. This is from Bradley. Dear Andy, Ron, Ann, and Leslie, that is Parks and Rec, what am I missing with Michael Pittman? I feel like up to this point, he is significantly under-delivered based on how many snaps he has played. He was wide receiver 26 in points per game last year as a second-year wide receiver. I thought it was even lower than that, honestly. It was one spot lower, 27. And you each expect him to jump into the top 10 now.
Starting point is 00:28:55 We'd love to hear a detailed explanation of what changed so much in the last few months for Pittman and what puts him clearly ahead of A.J. Brown when you're expecting Hurts to be a top five quarterback. I can speak to it from a projection standpoint. And first off, like not all good wide receivers breakout in year two. And he did have a minute mini breakout last year.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's some, some wide receivers still have third year breakouts. But the, the big change numbers wise for me has just been the acquisition of Matt Ryan and the confidence that Frank Reich appears to have in him. Last year, we saw the Colts as an extremely run heavy team. Their head coach has talked about the teams that win championships don't do that. They threw 31 fewer passes last year in 17 games than they threw in 16 games the year before, which tells you there could be a jump of 50, 60, 70 pass attempts for the Colts this
Starting point is 00:29:55 year. And there is no one else to infringe upon Michael Pittman's range as the wide receiver one. So if he gets 26% of the targets and their targets go up by 80, then he's got 20 more targets. And that's a big jump in that range of wide receivers. Think of him as the CD lamb of the Indianapolis Colts, because I think that that's, that's what we're looking at. But unlike CD lamb, Matt Ryan has a pretty consistent track record of honing in on one guy or maybe two guys and just, you know, super serving them with targets. The guys that he did that with Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley, pretty awesome guys is Pittman as good as they are athletically, probably not, but that's what he's got. And I think he's going to lean on them and they love Matt Ryan. He's talked about
Starting point is 00:30:42 that. Uh, I see a path to 150 targets. The only thing I'm worried about is like double digit touchdowns because we've seen Matt Ryan not super serve touchdowns to his wide receiver, certainly his number one guys. But even if he had 100 catches, 1400 yards, he could leave the NFL in receiving yards. I really believe that the volume could be there and six touchdowns on top of that, that's going to end up being a number one fantasy receiver. I have him projected for almost exactly what Dave said in two regards. 150 targets, 100 catches. How many yards per catch?
Starting point is 00:31:15 1,244 yards, so 12.4. So 12.4. Yeah, I think he can beat that. And then seven touchdowns. The problem, I think when he was going in round four, it was just such a slam dunk because so safe with the targets that he's going to get. The problem I think people are having right now
Starting point is 00:31:32 is we haven't seen Michael Pittman make the leap to being one of the best receivers yet, and maybe he can be, but when you're taking him, when you're deciding between Michael Pittman and guys that we know are some of the best wide receivers in football just from a talent level like Debo Samuel, Tyreek Hill, A.J. Brown,
Starting point is 00:31:50 and then guys like Mike Evans and Keenan Allen, I think that's where fantasy managers have some difficulty deciding between them. As you angrily told me the last time we were on a show together, I'm not drafting them for what they did last year. I'm just saying, I'm just simply saying, I think the issue is people don't, don't believe in Michael Pittman the way they believe in, in the players that they've seen be superstars. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And I had trouble with it too. I, I had to decide to decide between him and Keenan Allen and I, I took Keenan Allen in a full PPR league. Cause I, you know, they're both, I think really safe in that format. And I just seen Keenan Allen do it time and time again. And, you know, but, but I get it. I just wasn't quite ready to make Michael Pittman around to pick. That was a sure. And it's a late round to pick if round two at all,
Starting point is 00:32:36 he's probably better in early to middle round three, but every receiver's done gone through that point. You know, there was a point when no one wanted Devante Adams. Sure. It was a point when no one wanted Devontae Adams. There was a point when no one was that excited about Chris Godwin. You can talk about it with Cooper Cup. Last year, he was a fifth-round pick. So I'm comfortable with where we're at with him. I love his schedule, too.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Projected for the fifth easiest schedule for wide receivers. I think he goes off. All right, Trey in Arkansas. Is Isaiah likely going to hurt Mark Andrews and possibly even Rashad Bateman? Isaiah likely. What a huge preseason game for the Ravens. That's what Trey and a lot of people actually want to know
Starting point is 00:33:18 about Isaiah likely. Yeah, this is the impact of what television does to people because everybody saw him play well. On like 12 snaps, something like that. He goes off for 100 yards. Number one, I'm not drafting Isaiah Likely in typical redraft leagues, even though he looked great in a preseason game. Number two, I don't think it hurts Mark Andrews. I think Andrews is still going to get his. I still think he's going to be the top target in this offense. I think it could ding Bateman a tad, not enough to really turn him into a pumpkin. But when Lamar Jackson throws at his best, I really feel like it's more toward the middle of the field and not to the perimeter. And that's where likely he's going to be. That's where Andrews has been for a lot of his targets. And I think that that's where the Ravens, I think the Ravens are trying to replicate his MVP year. And so by getting two tight ends and utilizing them a lot more, that's going to give them opportunities and it's going to put them in
Starting point is 00:34:13 a position to catch the ball that Lamar is most comfortable throwing. There was a one word answer to this question. Unlikely? Unlikely. Yeah, I figured this would be Heath's favorite question because I knew he was going to make an unlikely. I was perfectly set up. Sorry for mushing it. Dave from Ontario. Dave has the fifth pick in a 10-team half PPR league, and he'd love to grab Kelsey or Andrews in the second round
Starting point is 00:34:41 at 16th overall. If that's my intention and I go wide receiver in round one, I feel pretty pressured to grab a running back in round three. But it sounds like you don't love the running backs in that range. Brees Hall, Javante Williams, Travis Etienne, David Montgomery. So what advice, let's say the group of Saquon Barkley, Leonard Fournette, DeAndre Swift, Aaron Jones, they don't make it to 25th
Starting point is 00:35:05 overall. And then you've got, I don't know where James Conner would be, but what is your advice? What is your advice to somebody in a 10-team league and then expand it to a 12-team league who goes wide receiver, tight end, or wide receiver, wide receiver, whatever, in the first two rounds? What do you do at running back at that point heath so like he's right that pick 25 range is the place where i don't really like the running backs i end up drafting i i take david montgomery there and it's too early to take david montgomery i take breeze hall there and everybody laughs because nobody takes breeze hall that high take davante williams there and haha melvin gordon so it feel like I, in a 10 team half PPR league, I understand the pressure you're feeling, but if I was feeling that pressure, I think I'd be more
Starting point is 00:35:53 likely to go running back tight end and then just take all those wide receivers we love. Right. Yeah. Okay. It's a good idea. But if, if you you don't do that don't feel pressure to take that running back in round three right wait till round four somebody from that group will be there zeke breeze hall montgomery etn someone will be there how many wide receivers can you start also because like half ppr already favors running backs over full ppr 10 team in my opinion favors running backs over 12 team if it's also a two-wide receiver league, then man, I do not like the idea of waiting until round four to draft a running back.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Well, what if you could draft in round four, you could draft Ezekiel Elliott? Because round four, that pick is 36th overall. Round five is 45th overall. You could take Ezekiel Elliott, Josh Jacobs, A.J. Dillon in rounds four, five, six. I mean, if you could pull it off, that sounds pretty good.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And based on ADP, you can write or, you know, I would target Connor with that round three pick or Javante if he makes it there. Decent chance of that happening. That's the two three turn in one of our drafts. Right. So they should definitely be there. All right. Jeremy from Texas.
Starting point is 00:37:04 We can be quick on this. We've talked about this a lot. Jeremy says, I drafted Pittman, DJ Moore, Sutton, and Michael Thomas in a full PPR league.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Pittman, DJ Moore, Sutton, and Michael Thomas. I passed on Evans and Mike Williams. How risky is it to draft all four
Starting point is 00:37:20 of these players versus a more high floor wide receiver? You just drafted four wide receivers that have a shot at 140 targets each. Mazel tov. Yeah, you did right. Yeah, I think it's especially with him currently being injured right now, I think it's way too risky to take Thomas over Evans or Mike Williams.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I agree on that. Oh, yeah, He might have done that before the injury. Okay, good point. Other than that, I'm fine with it. Dan, in a small town outside of Indy. Carmen. Okay. I've never heard this comp, and I love it.
Starting point is 00:38:04 To make a long story short, Dan from Carmen was, Carmel, Carmel, Carmel, was talking to his friend about Alan Lazard and they were going back and forth. And his friend said, as long as he is Aaron Rodgers, I like Alan Lazard. So the comparison that Dan came up with was Emmanuel Sanders in 2020 without, with Drew Brees.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And he, I actually did a little bit more than what Dan did. I took out all of the games that, Emmanuel Sanders in 2020 with Drew Brees. And I actually did a little bit more than what Dan did. I took out all of the games. So I only looked at the games Michael Thomas did not play and Drew Brees did play. There were seven games that Emmanuel Sanders played with Drew Brees and without Michael Thomas in 2020. And he averaged 14.8 fantasy points per game in PPR, which would have made him the number 21 or 22 wide receiver per game
Starting point is 00:38:48 in both 2020 and 2021. His 17-game pace, this is Emmanuel Sanders in 2020 without Michael Thomas and with Drew Brees, his 17-game pace was 97 catches, 1,241 yards, only five touchdowns, but on 131 targets. And I thought that was a great example of a player who you didn't even touch in fantasy when Michael Thomas was healthy, but anytime he was out, he was a must-start guy basically. And he performed as a number two wide receiver. I thought this
Starting point is 00:39:18 actually really resonated with me. What do you guys think about this comparison, Lazard to Emmanuel Sanders? Quarterbacks make receivers great. The best quarterbacks do anyway. That's been a prevailing theory in NFL front offices for decades, is that if you've got the quarterback, you can take an above-average receiver and make him good. You can make a good receiver very good, and you can make a very good receiver elite. So I think it's a great theory that it's, of
Starting point is 00:39:46 course, it's the reason why we like Alan Lazard. We don't like Alan Lazard because he's nimble or because he's got breakneck speed. The number one reason why you like Alan Lazard is Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback. I will just say that like Emmanuel Sanders had a 1,400-yard season on his resume and 3,000-yard seasons. And as recently as two years before that, it averaged 70 receiving yards per game on a team with a bad quarterback. So like Emmanuel Sanders was a certified, very good wide receiver who was at the end of his career, and we thought that he was done.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And he was rejuvenated a bit in a very, very, very small sample size. He was 33 years old that year. And in those seven games, he performed as the number 22, basically wide receiver per game. But you're right. He definitely had a better track record
Starting point is 00:40:39 than Emmanuel Sanders. So the debate goes on, but thank you for that comparison and thank you for your emails. We're going to take a break. I hope we can get to everything here. We might save Superflex for another day, but we'll take a break. No, we won't. We'll come right back on fantasy football today. All right, guys, we got 20 minutes left. Let's see if we can make this happen. Superflex takeaways. People, you know, let's just make this about the quarterbacks here. Do you have to take
Starting point is 00:41:04 two quarterbacks in the first two rounds? Do you have to take two quarterbacks in the first two rounds? Do you have to take two quarterbacks in the first three rounds? Dave, what did you learn from our Superflex drafts recently, including the one yesterday? I did it. I had the last pick in a 12-teamer, and I went back-to-back quarterback. I took Brady, and I took Russell Wilson. If more quarterbacks were taken in round one and there
Starting point is 00:41:26 was an obvious value staring me in the face at running back or wide receiver, I think I'd have to punt on quarterback. And that means waiting until rounds the three, four turn, honestly, to try and fill it. And I wouldn't have liked it as much. I just, I kind of just throw in the towel and say, all right, super flex league. I know I got to fill the super flex with the quarterback. As long as the scoring for quarterbacks is really good. And they're going to put up a lot of points. Uh, I'm just, I'm just going to get it taken care of with two of my first three picks. And in the case of picking late in round one, early round two, I just went with back-to-back quarterback. Yeah. I don't think you have to. I didn't,
Starting point is 00:42:02 I mean, the one, the first thing I learned was just a reinforcement that everybody hates Dak. I got him in the middle of round two and then didn't take another quarterback, I don't believe, until round nine. I'm having a hard time finding the league on my phone here, so it might have been. You had Mariota as your other quarterback. Yeah, I took Mariota, and then I took Deshaun Watson. Mariota in round nine.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Well, yeah. So when was your first quarterback? Round two? Dak in round two. And then Mariota in round nine. We actually had a lot of teams. About half the league kind of waited on their second quarterback. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:38 How do you think it turned out? I think that's fine. I ended up with a team that had Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara running back and Darren Waller at tight end. I absolutely loved my a team that had Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara running back and Darren Waller at tight end. I absolutely loved my non-quarterback team and I got one of my top eight quarterbacks for our number one. I just need to somehow piece together
Starting point is 00:42:53 QB2 production and then hope when Deshaun Watson comes back that he carries me to the title. Don't feel like you have to take quarterbacks with your first two, three picks or at least that you have to take quarterbacks with your first two, three picks, or at least that you have to take two quarterbacks because there will become a point in the draft
Starting point is 00:43:10 where people stop drafting quarterbacks. That was like round four, basically. Round four, I think, only had one quarterback, Justin Fields. Round five had a few, or round five had two, oh, no, round five only had one quarterback also. So, and this was a 12-team league. A lot of people play 10-team super flex leagues. That's obviously easier.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I had the ninth pick and I was more or less determined to go quarterback, quarterback because I felt like the top 13, 14 quarterbacks, you know, ending in the Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr range, I felt they'd all be off the board by the ninth pick of round three in a 12-team league, and they were. And I wanted two of them. But if you're comfortable with Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence or Jameis Winston or Tua Tungabailoa as your QB2, then you can go with one quarterback with your first three picks. And one of those guys will probably be there in round four.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And it might be helpful just to look. And I don't know if you guys either one have your roster i finally found the league but just look at the difference between like because my qb2 situation is obviously a problem is are my running back and wide receiver starters that much better than you guys enough to make up for it well i have kyler murler Murray and Joe Burrow as my first two picks. My running backs are Leonard Fournette and A.J. Dillon. So mine are McCaffrey and Kamara. Yeah, it's better. Your running backs are going to be better.
Starting point is 00:44:32 There's no doubt. My receivers are Lamb, Michael Thomas, and Jerry Judy. Mine are D.J. Moore, Brandon Cooks, and Adam Thielen. Similar. User preference, but basically the same thing. My tight end's Austin Hooper,
Starting point is 00:44:46 so I win. Mine's Aaron Woller. And my flex is Christian Kirk. Mine's Clyde Edwards-Hilaire. Yeah, so obviously the tight end is really where it jumps out in RB2, I'd say. I probably like your build better, actually.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Your build back better. Sorry, it didn't get to me. It really depends on whether or not you can get comfortable with the late round combo and i actually took zach wilson in the final round as well so i've got four quarterbacks mariotta wilson and deshaun watson i just yeah i'm sorry feel pretty okay about getting qb2 production out of that group i just got to say i've seen so many super flex leagues and two QB leagues, and it's just,
Starting point is 00:45:27 there is no one way that wins. You got to get lucky, right? You don't want to have two bad quarterback. You don't want to have two number two quarterbacks get one top 12 guy, you know, but that's the problem I have with the, with the super flex and this and the salary cap slash auction questions.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It's just the, you know, it's just, everyone is so different. Your league is just, maybe everybody takes quarterbacks and you have to adjust, but I hope this was helpful. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Well, if that wasn't helpful, then this should be Dave Heath. It's time for you to be fantasy cops. It's not fair that only Dan Schneier and myself get to do the fantasy cop segments. You get to be in on the fun as well. Heath hasn't kicked anyone out of a league
Starting point is 00:46:13 in a long time, so let's see what we get here. This is from Dan. We are entering year two of a salary cap keeper league where you can keep up to three players for five more dollars than you paid the previous year.
Starting point is 00:46:26 And there's no cap on the years. The champion gets to make a new rule. And this year's rule is to make the league a 2QB league. Some teams have one quarterback on the roster. Others have two quarterbacks on their roster from last year. No one drafted based on this rule.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And I think it breaks the league because teams have lucked into keeping cheap quarterbacks while others have not. Also, you should note, not in the email, but they're only allowed to keep one quarterback as part of the new rule. So they can keep up to three players. Only one can be a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:46:57 But the new rule that the champion made up is that it is now a two-quarterback league. And some teams are better equipped for that than others in the keeper scenarios here. So, Fantasy Cops, what do we do? I need a clarification. Yeah. Is the rule that the champion gets to make a new rule?
Starting point is 00:47:16 Yes. And he was the champion? Yes. Dan is not the champion. And he made a new rule? No. He made a new rule. So, I think you should stop whining.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yep. Oh, man. It is a really, it is really going to screw up the league, though, quite a bit here. Not if you can only keep one quarterback. But some people- Well, but somebody's going to have
Starting point is 00:47:40 Trey Lance on their bench and they can keep him for a buck or Trevor Lawrence for a buck. I really hope it's the guy who won the league. I hope that he set out to do this intentionally and that he's got a really cheap quarterback, and he won the league and called his own shot like Babe Ruth. So you're cool with it? What do you mean I'm cool with it?
Starting point is 00:48:01 He followed the rules to a tee. Why are we trying to find ways to penalize people for doing exactly what you've set the league up to do? It's a good point. I can't really argue that, Dave. Neither can I. Good job. Fantasy cops, allow it.
Starting point is 00:48:17 This one is from Mike. Hey, fantasy cops, you'll always be regulators in my heart. We just did our online keeper draft on a pay-for-draft website that uses Fantasy Pro's rankings. Right before our... This is shady. I hate this. Right before our keeper draft started,
Starting point is 00:48:37 the commissioner turned off all player rankings and projections without telling anyone, essentially just leaving us with a huge list of players in alphabetical order. We always have the rankings turned on. Most of us believe our commissioner did this to take advantage of people that don't make their own cheat sheets.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Either that or he uses Fantasy Pro's rankings and didn't want everyone using the same rankings as him. Once the draft started, it was not possible to change it back. Managers were constantly being given auto-drafted players because they ran out of time looking through names while others just
Starting point is 00:49:07 gave up and left. Our commissioner has now apologized but never said why he did it. Just curious if you guys think an apology is enough. Our trust in him
Starting point is 00:49:16 is at an all-time low. And he never warned everybody in the league beforehand. Hey, guys, just so you know, I'm going to turn off the consensus rankings or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Never. It's shady. I'm sorry, it's shady. It's terrible. You can't do that. This is easier for me than the first one, Heath. I mean, kick the commissioner out of the league or get a new league. He has to do a new draft.
Starting point is 00:49:42 There has to be a new draft with rankings. Has to be. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far. He's the commissioner, and get a new league. He has to do a new draft. There has to be a new draft with rankings. Has to be. Yeah, I wouldn't go that far. He's the commissioner and it's his league. And so I think you've got a couple of choices. You can accept his apology. You can try to negotiate a settlement.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Or you can leave the league. You're an authoritarian. I'm not authoritarian at all. I disagree with the statement. I disagree with the statement. I just told him he could leave the league. I disagree with the statement, this is the commissioner's league. A guy chooses to be a commissioner, it's not his league, and he can't rule with an iron fist. It's everybody's league.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Was he voted commissioner, or did he set this league up and invite everyone and make himself the commissioner? It doesn't matter, man. A league belongs to everyone. I agree. It's not just one person setting all the rules and then making changes at the last minute. I vote for a redraft. A full redraft.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Redraft. But what if the commissioner won't give you a redraft? Leave the league. Then everybody quits the league. Commissioner's kicked out. You find another buddy. His league is not as fun as it used to be it'll be way more fun because you've kicked the annoying commissioner out thank you fantasy cops if you have any more league issues please send them to fantasy football at cbsi.com that's the letter i fantasy football at cbsi.com
Starting point is 00:51:01 and put fantasy cops in the subject line time for for some fill-in-the-blank, buy or sell, and Team Name Tuesday. Fill-in-the-blank from Floose on the Loose. TJ Hawkinson's ceiling is blank and his floor is blank. Tight end five is the ceiling. Tight end 12 is the floor. Yeah, I'd probably assume he can't get hurt. five is the ceiling tight end. 12 is the floor. Uh, yeah, I'd probably assume no,
Starting point is 00:51:28 it can't get hurt. Yeah. So no injuries. I would go three and nine from Mark. Act in a two receiver league. I would be okay. I would be okay. Not drafting a wide receiver until blank.
Starting point is 00:51:44 So in a two receiver league, I would be okay. Not drafting a wide receiver until blank. So in a two-receiver league, I would be okay not drafting a wide receiver until blank. Round five. Yeah, round six. Oh, wow. Round six. Round six. So what would your, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:58 who do you think you'd end up with if you... Brandon Cooks. Okay. And then who else? Juju, Thielen. Heck, you might find Thielen in round seven the way everybody's pushing him down.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah. All right, from Sean. If Jalen Hurts finishes as QB3, that means AJ Brown will finish as wide receiver blank. Seven. This is one of those questions. That's where it was two years Seven. This is one of those questions. That's where it was two years ago. This is one of those questions
Starting point is 00:52:29 where you're not giving me all the equation. Because of the rushing. Well, yeah. Or it could be more spread out between Brown, Devonta Smith, and Goddard. Right. But I think it means he finishes as a top 12 wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Peggy Lee Zorba. A good streamer defense to start this season is blank. Browns. It's the Browns. Or the Panthers. The Browns and the Panthers play in week one, and then they both get a New York team in week two. But the Browns doesn't stop then.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Oh, no? Theirs goes through week then. Oh, no? Theirs goes through week four. Oh, okay. I'd moved them all the way up to a top five defense just because, yes, they get Mason Budoff or Mitchell Trubisky or Kenny Pickett and the Steelers on Thursday night football the week after that,
Starting point is 00:53:20 and then they go face Marcus Mariota and the Falcons. And they're good. Their toughest matchup there is week one at Carolina. They get the Jets in week two. Okay, so Pete says the first quarterback to get benched in 2022 is blank. Mitchell Trubisky. Geno Smith. Geno Smith might get benched before the season starts.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I think I would win. I guess technically that means he's the first one to get benched. Well, did anyone get benched in the playoffs at any point? Sam Darnold just got benched, didn't he? Yes. I don't think getting benched. No, I would say no. He was never the starter.
Starting point is 00:53:59 All right, from Justin. If Rashad Penny stays healthy all season, he will be RB blank and half PPR. 15. Oh, no, it's going to be higher than that. Higher than that. If he plays 17 games at the rate that he was going last year, he might be RB1.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Well, you don't think he's going to play at the rate he did last year. No, I don't. I don't. I don't even think he'll see as many touches or snaps per game as he did late last year. I will say RB8. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I could say RB1 here. It's not going to happen. He just doesn't have it in him to play 17 games. Let's go on to buy or sell. Here we go. From Brian Adams. Yeah, I'll buy anything that Brian Adams has. Oh, your favorite.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I'll buy anything he's selling. Buy or sell. Dawson Knox is number two in targets on the Bills offense this year. And also, buy or sell. He's a top three tight end. Hashtag Dawson gonna knocks you out. Massive sell. Rude to call Gabriel Davis
Starting point is 00:54:58 a bust. He might be fourth. From the finisher with a PH. In fact, I think he will be fourth. From the finisher. In fact, I think he will be fourth. By herself, removing injury risk, Chase Edmonds will finish as the Dolphins RB1 from the committee with a top 24 finish in fantasy. Chase Edmonds.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Bye. Yep. I think if he plays 17 games, he will definitely be a top 24 running back. From Pete Neubacher, Buy or sell Brian Robinson leads the Washington running backs in touches. Big buy. That's a sell for me. I don't think he's going to catch any passes.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Okay, it's time for Team Name Tuesday. This is what we're finishing with here. All right, so we have not done Team Name Tuesday all year, and I don't even think we did it much last year, but let's bring it back. From Justin, Kyler Ren. Kyler Ren.
Starting point is 00:55:51 From Will, Skies the Kemet, with the Sky more in there. Skies the Kemet. Not bad. I saw Kemet the Frog. That was a good one, too. Breeze for Impact.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Prefer Breeze Lightning. Me too. Oh, Breeze is going to be a good one. Breeze in the hall, like kids in the hall. How about Chase is on the case for you Paw Patrol fans? That one's good. If you were a little kid.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Free Calvin Ridley. Why free Calvin Ridley? You can't gamble on the sport, people. I know people complain about his suspension you cannot gamble on the sport so I do not like that team name and Jamie Heisenberg Thomas Schaefer our producer came up with that one Jamie Heisenberg
Starting point is 00:56:33 we should have been calling him that at the height of Breaking Bad Jamie Heisenberg oh Schaefer do we have the doppelganger thing do we have that I forwarded you that email I don't know what we end the show with that somebody thinks that heath looks like oh the new character i was gonna change one of my team names to that guy's name hightower i don't know his first name auto auto hightower let's get an image let me see if i can get an image can Can you do that, Schaefer? I believe it's an older version of me.
Starting point is 00:57:05 This might be me in the future. But I can see some resemblance. It's not quite as flattering as some of the other doppelgangers you guys have seen in the past. I liked it better when you were saying I look like Aaron Rodgers or that guy from the TV show. Let's take a look at Otto Hightower here. All right, I'm going to throw this up. Otto Hightower, by the way, is the king's hand in House of the Dragon. There he is.
Starting point is 00:57:32 He's got the large chin, the big forehead. Yeah, there's some comparison there. Oh, I thought I was zooming in. I'm sorry about that. It opened up a new page. All right. Heath, you are Otto Hightower. And now everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Okay. That's it for today's show. That was a fun one. Thank you, everybody. Thank you for the fantasy cops. Thank you for the buyer's sale and the fill in the blank. Thank you for watching and listening. We'll talk to you tonight. Then Gretchen's joining us for a live stream at 8pm Eastern, youtube.com slash fantasy football today and tomorrow at 9, 9, 10am Eastern, 10 minutes after nine o'clock on YouTube and the podcast. See you later.

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